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BREAKING NEWS : Elon Musk rallies support for DOGE at Wisconsin campaign event · Elon Musk Podcast

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Hey everybody, welcome back to the Elon Musk podcast.
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This is a show where we discuss the critical crossroads, the
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shape, SpaceX, Tesla X, the Boring Company and Neuralink.
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I'm your host Will Walden of this very important Supreme
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Court race in Wisconsin. It's, it's actually something
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that I think it's, it's, it's one of those things that may
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seem like it's obviously important in the, in the state
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of Wisconsin, but I think it could actually be important for
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the country as well and, and maybe for the world.
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So, so the, you know, so the, the House majority right now is
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razor thin. It's really just a few seats.
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And if, if, if the Supreme Court is able to redraw the districts,
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they will, they will gerrymander the districts and deprive
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Wisconsin of two House seats on the Republican side.
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Yeah, exactly. The result of that could be that
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the House switches to a Democratic House.
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Yes, indeed. And then they will try to stop
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all of the government reforms that we are we're doing and
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we're getting done for you, the American people.
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So. So the reforms that that we're
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getting done in DC thanks to President Trump and his great
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team are, are really profound. Really, the goal is very simple.
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It's to restore merit and freedom.
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So that's, that's what it comes down to.
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So America is the land of, of, of freedom and opportunity.
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So we want to, we want to restore into individual
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freedoms, freedom of speech, just in general, get the
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government off your back. So and and then make sure that
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you succeed in in the United States as a function of your
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hard work and your talent and nothing else.
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So these are these are really noble and important principles.
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And, and also, and I'll talk about more about this, you know,
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all night, really as much as long as you guys want to hear
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about it. But but, but as, as you may
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have, as you may have seen with stuff that we've posted on the
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doge.gov website and the DOGE handle on the X platform, there
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is a tremendous amount of waste and fraud in the federal
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government. Like, shocking.
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Really. It's it's insane.
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Yeah. It's really wild.
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So, like, I mean, it was inevitable that at least a few
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saw US operatives would be in the audience.
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Give my regards to George. Say hi to George for me.
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USAUSAUSAUSA. Yep.
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I mean, it was inevitable. I was waiting for that one.
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So I mean, I mean, yeah. Thank you.
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Thanks, guys. Yeah.
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I mean, I, I, I mean, isn't it, isn't it shocking how much
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violence and hatred is coming from the left?
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I mean, isn't this supposed, isn't it supposed to be the, the
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party that they claim to be, the party of empathy?
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And yet they're burning, they're burning Teslas and shooting up
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dealerships and calling for the death of the president and me.
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I'm like, guys, you know, this is, this is insane.
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Like they're gone psycho. I mean, it's really like, I
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totally understand if somebody doesn't want to buy a product.
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Yeah, it's up to you. It's free country, you know, but
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you don't have to burn it down. OK.
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But much that's somebody else's car.
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Leave it alone. Thanks, guys.
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Yeah, So man, the, the arrangement level on the left is
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just like, it's blown my mind, frankly.
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I mean, I'm like, what is going on?
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It's they've just lost it. Next level.
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I'm like, it's like, whoa. And I, I sort of wonder what's,
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you know, the, the legacy media is in part to blame for this and
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maybe primarily to blame for this because, you know, if, you
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know, it's really terrible. It's like if if they keep
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calling, you know, they've they've called obviously called
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President Trump every name in the book.
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You know, there's one article that that called the president
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worse than Hitler, Mussolini and Stalin combined.
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And like, actually President Trump killed anyone.
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In fact, he's very good at stopping wars, not starting
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them. So, you know, we're really very
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different. Maybe we need to add some more
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history lessons back in schools because I don't know if people
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understand, you know, what the difference do.
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Do they know what Hitler was leading us on?
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Did it seems they, they don't. I mean, it's just indicative of
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the poor quality of, of education pushed by the national
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Department of Education. So, you know, we, that's why we,
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we want to restore freedom to the states, to the let the
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states decide on the educational agenda and not have something
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pushed by a bunch of neo Marxists in DC.
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So I mean, it is astounding how much anti American propaganda is
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pushed on, on, on kids today in schools.
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It's mind blowing. It's like, what the Hell's going
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on? You know?
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So anyway, but on a poor positive note, we, we, we have
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this petition, you know, to sort of against activist judges
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because judges should be simply interpreting the law and not
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making the law. So in appreciation for the
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support of people in, in signing this petition against activist
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judges, we just want judges to be judges, you know, which is a
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reasonable thing to ask for. And we're obviously, obviously
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seeing like some crazy stuff in, in, in DC where, you know, it
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seems like the, it's like any, any federal judge can stop any
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action by the president, the, you know, the, of the United
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States. This is insane.
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Like we, we, this, this has got to stop.
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It's got to stop it at the federal level and at the state
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level. But let me first hand out two $1
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million checks in appreciation. OK, So the first check goes to
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Nicholas Jacobs. All right.
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I should say that the, the reason, you know, the reason for
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the checks is that it's, it's really just to get, get
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attention. It's, it's like we, we need to
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get attention. And, and it's somewhat
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inevitably when I do this, these things, the, you know, the, the
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sort of, it causes the legacy media to like kind of lose their
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minds and, and, and, and then, and then they'll, they'll run it
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on every news channel. And I'm like, I, I couldn't pay
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them to the, it would cost like 10 times more or, you know,
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it's, it's to get the kind of coverage that we get.
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So all right, all right, all right.
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You can just, I guess take it if you want.
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We'll get, we'll get, I think we'll get you a real one too.
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So and then the second one, second one is to Katarina
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Diesler. Let's see hopefully here.
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So well, and you know, like I said, this is just helpful for
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getting getting attention. And then like, it's it's kind of
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fun to see the legacy media lose their minds over too.
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So love you too. So, yeah, so see, Hello.
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OK, congratulations. All right, all right,
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congratulations. All right.
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So we're also going to be announcing, we are announcing
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now a, a program, sort of a, a get out the vote program.
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That's the web page should be going live.
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I think we're around now, which is at the America Pack website
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or just go to the America Pack X account.
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And the single biggest challenge, I think is actually
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just making people aware that there is this very important
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election. And there's both the the very
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important election for Judge Schimmel as well as the deciding
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on, on adding voter ID to the Wisconsin, Wisconsin
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Constitution, which is very, very important.
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So it's, it's really, it's quite shocking that that I mean, you
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can sort of tell where voter fraud is happening, where they
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ban ID, you know, like, why would you ban ID?
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Like in New York and California, it's like illegal to show ID at
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an election. Well, why would, I can't imagine
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why that would be the case. So, so 2 really important things
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it is, it's really just sure, ensure judicial integrity on
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Tuesday and, and then the, the voter ID thing and, you know,
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it's April Fool's Day. So and it is, it's, it's like,
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like most people aren't, like I said, most people aren't aware
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that there is this, this important election, but most
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people don't even know that there's an election at all.
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And, or if they do, they aren't sure exactly when and where it
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is. And they aren't sure yet of
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that. They don't realize just how
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important it is. They think it's, well, it's
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just, you know, some kind of judicial thing that's not that
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important. But it actually what they're
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doing. What what's happening on Tuesday
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is a vote for the, the, which party controls the US House of
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Representatives. That is why it is so, so
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significant. And whichever party controls the
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House, you know, it it it to a significant degree controls the
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country, which then steers the course of Western civilization.
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So it's like, I, I feel like this is one of those things that
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that may not seem that it's going to affect the entire
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destiny of humanity, but I think it will.
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Yeah. So it's it's a super, it's a
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super big deal. And, and the, the fact that I'm
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here in person, like I'm not phoning it in, I'm here in
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person. I'm and they're, yeah, so, and
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there, there were quite a few death threats.
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I have to tell you, I was like, my security team said it.
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Well, it's, it's actually gone down from yesterday to today,
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went down from 18,000 to 17,000. So I'm like, maybe it's getting
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better, you know, but you can see like how crazy some of these
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people are. You know, look, look at the,
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the, the two sort of people that try to assassinate President
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Trump, You know, I mean, I was and what, you know, they both
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almost succeeded. So it's, it's, it's real.
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Like it's not like some imaginary thing.
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So anyway, So what what we're announcing is, is kind of like
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a, a block captain program where somebody can sign up to knock on
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doors in their zip code and encourage people to to, well,
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make people aware that there is a vote and then aware of how
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important the vote is. So you can sign up to be a kind
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of a block captain for your zip code on the America Pack website
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right now. Yeah.
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And if you do, it's, it's like basically 20 bucks for just
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taking a photo with somebody. It's pretty straightforward.
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Just knock on doors in your neighborhood and, and, and give
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them either a digital or a paper, you know, picture of, you
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know, Justice Brad Schimmel. It, it can be an approximation.
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It doesn't have to be exact, but, and, and they just have to
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say thumbs up and hold a picture of, of Judge Schimmel and that's
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it. And you get $20 sounds.
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It's pretty easy. It's easy money.
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So, but the, the whole point of it is just to make people aware
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of the election and, and say that there is an election, it's
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on Tuesday and it's super important, please vote.
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But I think without something like this, we're, we actually
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are in serious danger of losing the election.
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This is very important to put to put in mind if you if you look
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at the betting market odds. So if you look at sort of the
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Polymark out of Cal St. like the betting markets, it varies
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between 85% and 90% probability of loss for Justice Schimmel.
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That's the current situation. So we got to, we got to pull a
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rabbit out of the hat. Next level it's we actually got
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to have a steady stream of rabbits out of the hat like it's
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an arc of rabbits flying through the air and and landing in a in
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a voting booth. Interesting picture Garat could
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probably make that picture. So that's that's basically
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what's needed is, is is we need to generate an anomaly in the
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matrix and because I think there's currently there there
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the dams are 100,000 votes ahead.
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But if actually if, just if the people that voted for President
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Trump simply vote on Tuesday, we will win.
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That's actually all it takes. Just vote.
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Boom, done, victory. So.
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So we're basically to to dragnet the state.
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It's like everybody's going to mobilize everywhere like crazy
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for the next 48 hours. And I, I think this will be
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important for the future of civilization.
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It's that significant. So you don't hear me saying that
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very often. It's, it's a big deal.
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So vote for Judge Supercharge Schimmel, I call them
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Supercharge Schimmel. So let's see.
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So with that, I think we can do some do Q&A if you guys would
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like to do some Q&A and I'm happy to answer any questions.
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It could be, you know about those or whatever you'd like to
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hear about. Because I think if you ask
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questions that the public would be interested in hearing, then
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you know, those, those snippets will go all over the place and
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it will be helpful to the, the public, you know, at, at large
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and maybe even beyond, beyond our country.
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So let's see yeah, go ahead. We can just start over there.
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As AI gets continues to get smarter, won't it inevitably see
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through its creators propaganda? Yes.
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The question is as AI gets smarter, will it see through its
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creators propaganda? I I hope so.
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I think you can sort of think of an AI as it is somewhat nurtured
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by its creator. So you have to say what, what is
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the operating principle? What, what is, what is the, what
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is the North Star of the AI? You know, if it's somewhat
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corporate AI, it could be like it's just trying to make
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corporations happy. Or it could be, you know, if
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it's particularly some of the AIS that that are trained in,
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like the city of San Francisco, it's going to have kind of a San
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Francisco bias to it. Because you can think of like
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smart people as well as like, you know, there are big
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differences in, in sort of beliefs among smart people.
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And so you can expect that there will be big differences in
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beliefs among AI as well. With Grok, our aspiration is a
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maximally truth seeking AI, which is like, you always want
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to try to get as close to the truth as possible, even if the
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truth is unpopular. And that's that's our goal,
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which I think is a very important goal.
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Hey, nice shirt. Thank you.
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First of all, Path of Exile for life.
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But more importantly, as we see the the whole world has turned
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to a fear based mobilization effort and we've seen that
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translate into violence and and the right's not immune to it
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because it can hit psychology. How do we beat that with
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optimism? Because that's going to be
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crucial to avoid mass eruption of conflict.
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Yeah. I mean, did this seem to be?
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You're right that the, the, the right is not immune from sort of
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hate and violence. It's not like nothing, but it,
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it does seem weirdly heavily weighted towards the left.
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I mean, like I haven't seen anyone tearing off like a, a
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Biden Harris hat. Like we're just like, you feel a
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bit sorry for them, Like, oh, maybe they're wrong there, you
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know, but, but, but you see people tearing off mega hats and
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somebody just, you know, I saw a video just as just just today
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where somebody was just on an escalator, woman was on an
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escalator wearing a MAGA hat and someone gone in the other
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direction tore the hat off her head.
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I'm like, what? That's, that's rude, you know?
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So in fact, I sort of find myself in a strange position
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because I, I didn't think of myself as right.
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I thought myself as centrist, but then the left went all the
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other way in other direction and now everyone's a Nazi, you know,
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boy, you know it. And I'm like, wait a second, do
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you know what that means? Obviously not so.
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But yeah, I mean, I think, you know, I believe in peaceful
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discourse and that, you know, we make arguments, verbal arguments
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and and the people decide which way they want to go.
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But we, you know, we don't engage in sort of shouting
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people down or, or violence or burning things or shooting
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things. That's what that's how democracy
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is supposed to work. There's peaceful discourse.
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Yeah. My question is about US aid.
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Has the Doge team found any evidence that any of the radical
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left Democrats like Maxine Waters, Adam Schiff, Chuck
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Schumer have received money directly from USAID?
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And if so, will we be hearing about that evidence anytime
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soon? Yeah.
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So the, the, there is a massive amount of corruption, but but
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it, it is circuitous. So what happens is there's money
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that obviously it's your taxpayer money that that is then
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sent to various government organizations who then send it
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to, to NGOs, which, which an NGO is a non governmental
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organization. But obviously if it's a
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government funded non governmental organization, it's
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just an organization, it's just a government.
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And effectively there's a giant fraud loophole, which is that
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the the government can send money to an NGO that has been no
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longer governed by the law of laws of the United States.
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So they'll they'll send the money overseas to one NGO, Then
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they'll go through a bunch of a bunch of them.
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And then I'm highly confident that a bunch of that money then
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comes back to the United States and lands in the pockets of the
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people you just mentioned. But it is a circuitous route.
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It's not like it, it doesn't go directly, but let's just say
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that this a lot of strangely wealthy members of Congress
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where I'm, I just can't, I, I'm trying to connect the dots of
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how do they become rich while earning?
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How do they get 20 million if they're earning 200,000 a year?
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It sounds that's how do nobody can explain that.
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So, so, so something's, yeah, we, we, we're going to try to
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figure it out and, and, and, and certainly stop it from
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happening. So, yeah, I mean, just in
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general, this, this the, the whole NGO scam is, is just
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crazy. And yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's
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blown my mind really. So yeah, most of us here are
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aware of social media censorship, and I know you're
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keenly aware of it. Thank you for turning around X.
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Awesome. Welcome.
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As censorship picks up in financial institutions, what can
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we do about that? Are you referring to offering
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financial services by X? No, Sorry.
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Being kicked off of financial. Oh, yeah.
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For beliefs. Yeah.
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Yeah, well, certainly that that won't happen during the the
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Trump administration. Hopefully that can be enshrined
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in law, which is part of the reason why we need a Republican
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Congress. So you didn't see any
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Republicans kicking Democrats out of and de banking Democrats,
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but there were a lot of Republicans that were debanked
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thousands, which is really outrageous.
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So, so I said it does seem kind of one sided, you know, this
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like trying to ruin people's lives and financially and and
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violent protests overwhelmingly is coming from the left these
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days, you know, it's like, and whereas the right is polite, you
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know, and fair as far as I can tell.
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So yeah, go ahead. Thank you for being here.
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Your comment kind of about the Matrix is kind of ironic because
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my husband and I watched first the the first Matrix and the
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sequel yesterday. My question is, when so much of
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social media nowadays, you know, whether it be X or YouTube or
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whatever, is kind of curated to like your purse, a person's
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particular beliefs or even where we have protesters that show up
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to town halls or or potentially are paid.
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How do you does America kind of come together?
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And it used to be where you could have a conversation and
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have discourse like you discussed and still be friends
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even if you disagreed with kind of some of their statements.
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When you talk about knocking on doors, like to different peoples
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house, like one kind of fear that I have is like, even if you
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talk to somebody, everybody has their own sets of beliefs and
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their own truths. So I guess how do you get
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through that? Yeah, well, I think what we saw
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there for quite a while was that all of the legacy media and all
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of the new social media were in lockstep together and they were
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all parroting the same left wing talking points.
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And they were suppressing any dissent and any, any so-called
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right wing or frankly even centrist views.
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And with that, that's why I thought it was it was critical
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to acquire Twitter now X in order to enable that dialogue.
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So it's it's it's only a step in the right direction.
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And I think you've seen now once X was willing to to break ranks
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and not censor Republicans, then you you saw others also started
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moving that direction. You know, it, it looks like, for
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example, Facebook. And it will matter, you know.
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Yeah. Is they they if certainly Mark
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Zuckerberg has stated that they will be doing a sort of
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community notes based on the community notes of the X
27:43
platform and and and as opposed to having sort of far left
27:47
censorship Bureau that's sort of, you know, the work star see
27:52
essentially reviewing things. So that's a step in the right
27:56
direction. You know, there's there's some
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maybe some hope for the CNNS of the world.
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There's like with with with with Scott being on there.
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He's great. You know, he's like, I mean, I'm
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sort of hopeful that things that are, are moving in in the
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direction where different points of view are espoused on or, or,
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you know, heard on legacy media and, and social media.
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So I'm, I guess maybe I'm actually a little bit optimistic
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about the future. And, you know, on the X
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platform, you know, we don't prioritize and, you know, one
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side or the other, we try to be as fair as possible.
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And I will reply to, you know, prominent Democrats, even if
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they sort of say terrible things about me.
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So, you know, it's like, yeah, we should have this discourse.
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And so I, I kind of think at least on the media front, things
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are going a good direction. But on the but I but I am kind
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of perturbed by the sort of how aggressive these protests are.
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You know, where it's it's like, you know, there are people at
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these protests calling for the death of the president and death
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of me and I don't know, probably death of others.
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You know, that that's not, that's the kind of thing that's
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not not cool. You know, at the risk of saying
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something outrageous, calling for murder is not cool.
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Yeah. So can't believe.
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Thanks for coming, Elon. I'm a teacher by trade.
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I have gone through the four year bachelor's degree to teach
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the nation's youth going forward on that.
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Yeah. Actually, I'm kind of curious.
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What? What what was that like?
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Like, Yeah, I got an English degree, man.
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At the end of the day, unless you want to hire me, that's
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about, you know, that's sure. So during teacher college, they
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give us a heat map and it says these are the cost per head on
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each student. The South, southeast is
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generally the worst, but they're also generally the lowest spent
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per capita on each student beyond just that correlation of
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the one text I got in an education class.
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I wonder with your investments in Khan Academy, with the
30:38
advancement of AI educational tools, where specifically you
30:43
can get feedback and these students can get feedback.
30:45
Yeah, absolutely. Where do we see 100 years from
30:49
now with all. Oh, man, 100 years from now?
30:51
How about 50? I hope we last 100 years.
30:53
I'll be like jackpot, you know? Yeah, exactly.
30:57
Hopefully we hopefully we were like on Mars, you know, so that
31:03
would be really cool. So I do think AI can be
31:07
incredibly helpful in teaching because you can, you can
31:11
essentially set up each kid with like a personalized AI and that
31:16
that AI can then answer questions for each kid.
31:20
And that actually can be very profound in learning because
31:23
obviously if you've got a classroom of say 2530 kids,
31:26
it's, you can't like spend, it's literally impossible to spend
31:31
time with every kid individually.
31:33
Or at least you can spend a little bit of time, but not
31:37
obviously it's, it's a one to 21 to 30 ratio.
31:40
So, but I, but what you can do is, is you can set them up with
31:43
the AI and then you can, you know, if things get stuck or, or
31:46
whatever, if, if, if you want to, you can, you can essentially
31:50
guide the orchestra that way. And I think it could be a very
31:52
powerful learning tool. You know, I, I personally
31:56
enjoyed my English classes in high school.
31:58
Actually, you know, they, sometimes I wondered, why am I
32:02
reading Charles Dickens? But, you know, there's some
32:05
merit to reading Dickens and, and, and many of the, I actually
32:08
think that we should have a, a great Canon of, of English
32:11
literature that, that, that kids do at least, you know, some
32:17
number of the significant works of in the English language.
32:21
So. I mean this, yeah, it seems like
32:29
very obvious to me, but yeah. And, and another thing with
32:35
regard to teaching is that I think teaching is a very
32:37
important profession. If you look at the expenditures,
32:41
there's a very big rise in the number of administrators, but
32:46
but not a very big rise in the number of teachers.
32:49
And so that's, that's really the big factor, which is we, we
32:52
should have more actual teachers, you know, and, and I,
32:57
I believe in paying teachers well and, and having a lot of, a
33:00
lot of teachers, but we should say, why do we have so many
33:02
administrators or, or non teachers?
33:05
So administrative expense has gone ballistic, but teaching
33:09
expenses is more or less flat. Doesn't make sense.
33:12
So first, I would like to apologize to you on behalf of
33:16
America for the idiots you have to deal with, for what you're
33:19
doing, for us to improve our country.
33:22
Second of all, my question is, what is your opinion on the
33:25
Federal Reserve and do you have any intentions of doing anything
33:29
with them and the Fed? Yeah, I don't know.
33:38
I always wanted to say that, you know, but but I mean, I think
33:42
that's like 20,000 people that work at the Fed.
33:44
Seems pretty high. It's like there's a lot of
33:46
people who work with the Fed on us things like why do we have so
33:48
many people at this at the Fed and what do they do?
33:51
And you know, sometimes I wonder which one would win, you know,
33:57
the federal for interest rates the the federal, the board of
34:01
the Federal Reserve or a magic 8 ball.
34:04
And I'm like, I think the Magic 8 ball might win, you know, So
34:09
then I'm like, well, Magic 8 ball is a lot cheaper.
34:14
So, you know, it's like you shake it, it says check back
34:18
again later. I'm like, OK, same thing.
34:26
But, but I think we, we, we, we, we, what really matters is that
34:32
the government spending it is, is not far in excess of
34:36
government revenue. That's a fundamental issue that
34:39
we have where the, we have a, a deficit of $2 trillion and we
34:44
have interest payments that now exceed the entire budget of the
34:48
military. In fact, that that was a big
34:51
wake up call for me was when the, the amount of money that
34:54
we're paying national debt interest exceeded the Defense
34:57
Department budget. I'm like, Defense Department
35:00
budget is very big and interest is higher than that and, and,
35:04
and climbing. That's a disaster, you know, so
35:09
the, the very simple, straightforward goal of, of the
35:11
doge team is to get rid of waste and forward.
35:16
It's it's mostly waste. It's, it's or depending on how
35:18
you know, I'd say it's probably 80% waste, 20% forward,
35:21
something like that. But it's a trillion dollars.
35:24
So that's still a lot. And it's, it's, you know, it's
35:28
got a, you know, it's got to be we, we got the, the another
35:40
Soros sleeper agent there. USAUSAUSAUSA So I mean to be to
36:03
be clear, the the the very simple thing we're doing and we
36:06
we post everything publicly on the doge website, which is it's
36:11
just to look at every expense and say, is this actually a good
36:15
use of your taxpayer dollars? That's it It's not it's not
36:23
super complicated and and and the thing that's that's pretty
36:27
wild. This is why I like, I say like,
36:28
you know, I used to be a Democrat like, and so like, and
36:33
if you listen to the, the speeches of Clinton and Gore in,
36:37
in the 90s when they, they were going on about reducing waste
36:41
and fraud, it literally you wouldn't be able to tell the
36:44
difference if like who said it, Doge or Clinton Gore, you can't
36:48
even tell the difference sounds exactly the same.
36:51
It's wild. So we're, we're, we're really
36:54
just trying to restore common sense to government and say
36:58
like, let's not waste your money and let's make sure it's spent
37:01
well and, and that's it. And in, in trying to save a
37:05
trillion dollars of expenditures, what we're saying
37:07
is of the 7 trillion in, in government spending, let's try
37:11
to see, let's see if we can make it 15%, one 5% more efficient.
37:18
And I'm confident that we can. That's actually not a huge bar,
37:23
by the way. So, and, and when you see the
37:33
when you see the crazy things that the government is spending
37:36
money on, you can see a list of some of them.
37:39
You know, it's like, I don't know if we should be spending
37:42
money on transgender comic books in Peru.
37:44
That doesn't seem like an ideal thing to spend your money on.
37:47
You know, why would we do that? If if somebody in Peru wants to
37:52
do that of their own accord, that's fine, but it shouldn't be
37:54
your money that does it. So it's it just, and you know,
37:58
we shouldn't be paying rent on empty buildings.
38:02
And you know, if, if, if people, if I do think there is a role
38:06
for government, but, but we just need to make, we're just going
38:09
to, we're just going through and saying and, and doing what I
38:11
would call like an, an external and, and, and necessary and
38:16
reasonably trusted review of, of organizations and, and
38:20
personnel. So is this, is this person doing
38:23
a good job? Great.
38:25
Is the role necessary? If so, that's good.
38:28
And are they reasonably trusted, meaning they're not a psycho,
38:31
Like we're not talking about like political affiliation, just
38:33
that they're not crazy. So you know what's wrong with
38:41
that? I'm like, sounds super normal to
38:43
me. So that's it.
38:49
Now, in this process, one of the things that we've discovered,
38:56
which is I think on the fraud side, which is a really big
38:59
deal, is that the Democrat administration, the Biden
39:04
administration has basically taken every arm of the of the US
39:09
government and bent it towards creating a financial incentive
39:13
for illegal immigrants to come to the United States.
39:17
Now this is every part of the government, so like Social
39:20
Security, Medicaid, unemployment insurance, disability, even the
39:25
IRS. So you, you can like fill out a
39:28
fake tax return and say you, you need a tax, a tax.
39:32
Maybe I shouldn't tell people this, but it'll actually work.
39:35
I mean, mostly there's some chance you'll get caught, but
39:38
you can actually fill out a fake tax return.
39:39
You can, you can just get a tax refund even though if you didn't
39:42
pay taxes. So we're trying to stop all
39:45
these things, say like, OK, well, let's stop the waiting for
39:48
it. And, and we also need to turn
39:50
off the massive financial incentive for illegals to come
39:54
to the United States and, and stay in the United States.
39:57
And this is really the thing that is causing the Democrats to
39:59
lose their mind, you know, because they're, they're
40:03
actually spending at this point 10s of billions to attract and
40:07
retain illegals in the United States.
40:10
It's, it's really on that scale. It's a gigantic number.
40:13
And the goal is, is to turn all the swing states blue.
40:19
That means Wisconsin. So that's the goal.
40:24
So with the asylum program, if, if they can get a green card
40:29
within a year and then they can get citizenship, you know, as as
40:34
quickly as four years after getting a green card, because
40:37
the first year of of being asylum, being asylum counts for
40:40
the for the five year citizenship waiting period.
40:42
So this is this is a very big deal.
40:45
So a number of friends of mine have actually joined the
40:51
government and in order to help with this process, and I'd like
40:54
to welcome my friend Antonio Gracias to the to the stage.
41:04
I think. So.
41:08
Does it work? I can give you mine.
41:11
Does it work? It'll be OK.
41:18
I mean, Buzz Aldrin's still alive and he's he went past the
41:20
belts. Is this working?
41:22
Yeah, there we go. So, Antonio, can you tell us
41:25
what what you Antonio is helping out with the Social Security?
41:31
So just trying to review Social Security where you may have
41:34
heard that we found 20 million dead people mocked as alive in
41:39
the Social Security database. This is too so crazy.
41:43
And then you'll notice there's a strange trend here where how
41:50
many Social Security numbers were issued?
41:53
It it's do you want to? Yeah.
41:55
So let me, let me tell you what happened here.
41:57
We we started at the top of the system.
41:59
We. Want to talk about a lot of.
42:00
We started at the top of the system, mapping the whole system
42:03
of Social Security to understand where all the fraud was.
42:05
And there's a lot of great people there that showed us
42:08
really a lot of waste. And so that came up with a big
42:10
list of stuff they're working on.
42:12
You've heard from that already, but this is what jumped out at
42:14
us when we saw these numbers. We're like, what is this?
42:18
In 21? You see 270,000 people goes all
42:22
the way to 2.1 million and 24. These are non citizens that are
42:27
getting Social Security numbers. Yeah, this, this is a mind
42:31
blowing charge. Yeah, just this this literally
42:33
blew us away. Like, we went there to find
42:36
fraud and we found this by accident.
42:39
And this isn't political, by the way.
42:41
My parents, immigrants. Yeah, this country's been great
42:45
to us. My brothers and sister, all born
42:46
in Spain. I'm pro legal immigration.
42:49
This is not, this is not political.
42:51
This is not political. This is about America and the
42:55
future of America. And there are a lot of good
42:58
people in the system that pointed this in this direction.
43:00
I want to I want to honor them right now that work in the
43:02
government today who took risks to show us these numbers and
43:05
tell us what's going on. I want to stop for a minute.
43:08
I want to tell, I want to honor those people today.
43:10
Very good people, very good people.
43:13
I have been from DC to Social Security offices to the border
43:19
to track this down and very good people have helped us along the
43:22
way. I want to thank them.
43:23
Yeah. This number, what this is, is
43:26
when you come in the country, if you're an illegal, there's a
43:29
couple ways to come in. You come in through a port of
43:31
entry and you can tell them you're afraid and you'll get it.
43:33
They'll give you an asylum, asylum case.
43:35
You get an interview, then you get in.
43:37
That's one way to do it. Another way to do it is to just
43:40
go to the border. Literally this happened.
43:42
I talked to Border Patrol myself.
43:43
Elon was there too. I went to Laredo and I went to
43:47
Bronzeville. Elon went to Eagle Pass.
43:50
You walk up to work with officer and you tell them you want to
43:52
come in. They have a couple of choices.
43:55
They could charge you with a misdemeanor or a felony under
43:57
1325, or they can make an administrative offense like a
44:01
parking ticket. Basically they were told to do
44:03
that, make an administrative offense on the last
44:05
administration and you could walk across the border.
44:08
They do what's called a released in your own recognizance and
44:13
they give you an MTA notice to appear, which appear to judge.
44:16
The wait times on judges are like average six years.
44:19
Look at Carac, you'll see it on immigration judges.
44:21
There's only 700 of them. This is 5.5 million people.
44:25
OK, So what happens then? Once you're in the country and
44:29
you got asylum through one of these pathways, we map the whole
44:32
thing out. You can apply for a work
44:35
document. You file a 765.
44:38
It's the work form. You get this form called the
44:41
766, that's the authorization, and then Social Security
44:44
Administration automatically send you in the mail, your
44:48
social street number, no interview, no ID.
44:51
This is worth like just reiterating it.
44:53
It it's not that it's not. People sometimes think that
44:55
under the Biden administration that that he was simply asleep
44:58
with the switch. He wasn't asleep.
45:00
They weren't asleep at the switch.
45:01
It it it was a massive large scale program to import as many
45:05
illegals as possible, ultimately to change the entire voting map
45:09
of the United States and disenfranchise the American
45:12
people and make it a permanent deep blue one party state from
45:16
which there would be no escape. Look, if I hadn't seen this
45:19
myself, I'm not sure I believed it.
45:20
I went through it myself and mapped it.
45:22
And he was right. This is true.
45:24
The defaults in the system from Social Security to all of the
45:27
benefit programs have been set to Max inclusion, Max pay for
45:31
these people, and minimum collection.
45:33
That's what's happening. We found 1.3 million of them
45:36
already on Medicaid, as an example.
45:38
We've gone through on every benefit program we went through.
45:41
We found groups from this particular group of people, this
45:44
5.5 million people in those benefit programs.
45:47
And then what was really, really disturbing us was why we're
45:51
asking ourselves why. And so we actually just took a
45:54
sample and looked at voter registration records and we
45:57
found people here registered to vote in this population.
46:00
Yes. And who did vote?
46:01
And and we found some by sampling that actually did vote.
46:05
And we have referred them to prosecution at the Homeland
46:08
Security Investigation Service already.
46:10
Already. That has already happened right
46:12
now. Yeah.
46:16
And the truly disturbing thing, though, I just want you to know
46:19
this a truly disturbing thing to me and the darkest thing about
46:21
this to me, the voter fraud is terrible.
46:25
But the human tragedy that's created is extraordinary because
46:30
what you don't understand, people don't know.
46:31
And Americans need to know. That's why I'm here.
46:34
Is it human traffickers made 13 to $15 billion off of this?
46:39
OK, That's the money that's going around the world, moving
46:42
people around the world to our borders because of these
46:44
incentives. How does it work?
46:46
What happens, hey, if you're in Africa and you're in South
46:49
America, you got to walk up through Mexico and through this
46:51
America. Who do you pay?
46:53
You pay the narcos, you pay the traffickers, right?
46:55
And we found, we were told by ICE, it's between 20,000 and 500
46:59
bucks. Depends.
47:00
They pick you up to walk across all those countries and get all
47:03
the way up to the border. Where's that money goes?
47:06
It goes to the cartels. It goes to human traffickers,
47:10
right? There are 30,000 children that
47:13
have not appeared on the notice to appear already.
47:15
ICE knows this. 30,000 children, 270,000 children didn't even get
47:21
notices to appear. ICE told us.
47:23
The kids are being trafficked back and forth across the border
47:25
to complete families to make this easier.
47:28
This is a human tragedy. It's not just the money, it's
47:32
the people and the kids. Now, how many these people died
47:35
on the way up here that didn't make it in?
47:37
What happened to them? We created a system here that
47:41
created a descendant for people to come and be taken advantage
47:45
of by these traffickers. And how do you think it paid?
47:48
What you're in Africa since America, You got $20,000 or
47:50
$10,000 or $5000 to pay these traffickers.
47:52
No, you don't. What happens?
47:55
You come in, then you owe them the money.
47:57
You're indentured servant. If you don't pay them, what
48:00
happens? What do they do?
48:02
They kill your mother. They kill your brother, they
48:03
kill your family. What happens next?
48:06
That's what we discovered. And I have to tell you, it was,
48:09
it's tragic to me. The tragedy, the human tragedy
48:12
this created is extraordinary. That's the real problem.
48:16
This is America. We don't do this here in
48:17
America. We don't do this here in
48:21
America. People come here legally, and
48:25
that's great. Elon came here legally.
48:28
My parents came here legally. That's the way to do it.
48:31
This is this is outrageous. Yeah, it's, it's it's pretty
48:39
wild. I mean, you can see because
48:42
there's still actually a lot of people out there, especially in
48:45
the sort of center third of the country that that somehow think
48:47
this is made-up by the right or it's it's like some fiction.
48:51
It's not that it's somehow not true, but it is, it isn't is
48:54
absolutely true. And you can see that if, if you,
48:57
if you like, you know, look at things like the state of New
49:02
York, which tried to make it legal for, for, for illegal
49:06
immigrants to vote in the state of New York.
49:08
That was only shot down by the New York Supreme Court a few
49:11
weeks ago. And, and California has made it
49:17
healthcare available to all illegals in the state.
49:20
And they initially claimed that it would only cost 3 billion.
49:23
It's now 9 billion and climbing. So it's, it's really, if you
49:29
create a massive financial incentive for people to come to
49:33
the United States illegally, then that's what they will do.
49:36
It's it's a very sort of stranger if we ought if that
49:40
didn't happen. So the the really the thing that
49:44
is actually has the Democrats losing their mind.
49:46
By far the real reason for these attacks and, and sort of the
49:52
burning of the cars and everything is that we're going
49:54
to turn off the payments to illegals
50:08
because. Yeah, I mean, because that's not
50:12
the deal. You know, this, it's, you know,
50:17
it's not, it's, it's not, it's simply not right.
50:21
And you know, if you look at that thing with the Roosevelt
50:26
Hotel and like, you know, the luxury hotels in New York where
50:29
the Federal Emergency Management Agency funds were being used to,
50:34
to house illegals in luxury hotels in New York that the
50:38
average American can't afford. And they were giving a welcome
50:41
package and $10,000 debit cards and everything else.
50:44
Like it's, it's super real. I mean, it's, it's like it's,
50:49
it's, it's in my, I think it's the, the, the biggest voter
50:55
fraud thing in history by far. And, and more of a if, if left
51:02
unchecked, it would have succeeded.
51:05
As Antonio mentioned, the, the time frame for going from asylum
51:09
to citizen is roughly five years.
51:13
And so all of the people that came in on that chart that you
51:16
saw, if, if the, if the machine behind the Kamala puppet had
51:20
won, then you know, they change out the puppet, but it's the
51:25
same machine, then they would have actually legalized all
51:32
those people and there would be no swing states.
51:35
And we added more. Remember it was doubling every
51:37
year. Yes, it went from 1,000,000.
51:38
It was going ballistic. Going ballistic and it is, it is
51:41
just these people are just entering the, the, the benefit
51:44
programs now, by the way, we're seeing the ramp happen too.
51:47
And these are just the ones that are in the system.
51:49
This doesn't count the other, you know, seven and a half, 8
51:51
million that ICE thinks are out there.
51:53
We don't know if they have numbers.
51:54
The number is totally uncontrolled.
51:56
The voter ID requirement in the state is super important because
51:59
of this. Yes, because the Social Security
52:00
number, it's not supposed to be a federal ID number, but
52:03
basically is. That's how you access all the
52:05
benefits. This is why we need voter ID
52:08
because this thing is not secure.
52:10
You could walk into a Social Security house today, today is
52:12
an adult America and get a Social Security number
52:16
enumerated with simply a answering six or seven simple
52:20
questions and showing some some forms of ID that are not federal
52:22
ID. Well, you can just actually make
52:24
it up. Basically you can show basically
52:27
like like a fake utility bill or you know.
52:31
A medical bill and a school ID. Yeah, medical bill and a school
52:34
ID and you can get a Social Security number and then from
52:37
there you get on the border rolls and then the basically Dem
52:40
operatives will form the vote. So you know, the problem with
52:45
this obviously, is that if you turn the swing states blue, then
52:50
there are no swing States. And then we're in a permanent
52:52
one, one party system. And as soon as they win that,
52:55
they'll have the House, the Senate, the presidency, they'll
52:58
pack the Supreme Court. Then they'll they'll double down
53:02
on, on the illegals, just like California.
53:05
So we're like, we've already seen this happen in California.
53:09
California supermajority Dem. So, but at least California is
53:15
held back by the fact that people can move out of state.
53:19
Once you can no longer leave America, they will be they'll be
53:22
far worse than California. So the gravity of the situation
53:26
is severe. Help us clean up Wisconsin
53:31
border wall. Yes, absolutely.
53:33
So, I mean, it's it's really simple stuff.
53:39
Just, you know, having you know, photo ID to vote is like you
53:45
can't like buy something at the liquor store.
53:47
But voting is a lot is more important than, you know, buying
53:51
a beer so you're. Going to need a real ID.
53:53
You got an airplane. Yeah, you can't play anywhere.
53:56
Yeah. And and like the same people who
53:59
said who are saying that there should be no voter ID at at
54:02
voting stations, demanded vaccine ID from everyone.
54:07
I'm like, that's weird, you know, So, so it's really about
54:13
just restoring integrity to the voting system, which really
54:18
should not be a right or left course, but a course for all is
54:23
do we, do we not all want integrity in the voting system?
54:26
Of course we do, yes. Of course, yes.
54:29
So, so, so well, you're welcome to hang out and see.
54:40
Maybe there's some questions for you.
54:42
Let's see. We'll we'll go.
54:43
Hi, Elon. I also, I am a teacher.
54:47
I was a teacher in Colorado for eight years, high school
54:50
Spanish, But I moved, I moved here last year and got to vote
54:57
in Wisconsin where my vote actually mattered.
54:59
And I'm so glad. That was amazing that we got
55:01
Trump elected and I was listening to, I believe it was
55:10
Patrick Bet David, he called this perfectly where he said
55:15
when Elon or when, when Trump gets elected, he's going to go
55:20
from enemy number one to Elon's going to be number #1 and for
55:27
the reason I mean, he only has a couple years left.
55:30
And we've all seen the, the left go after you and make you #1
55:37
enemy and just walking in here, we heard Nazis suck.
55:42
There's all this horrible thing. And just on a, on a serious
55:45
note, I just want to let you know my wife and I pray for you
55:49
at night. Thank you for your safety.
55:58
And guys, thank you. I I got to, I got to wash my
56:02
hand gestures these days, you know, but I think this one's
56:05
safe, you know, You know, it's like can't wave to the crowd is
56:12
going to know what will happen. And I've been a fan of yours for
56:18
like a decade and I've been a walking Tesla ad to anybody who
56:22
talks to me, even though I never had a Tesla until I came to
56:25
Wisconsin too. And it's 10 years old, but it's
56:28
the best Model S I've ever had. Thank you, It's incredible.
56:32
Thank you. But I, I just wanted to take to
56:37
ask you if it would be OK. I brought my dad with me.
56:41
He's a pastor. And I just thought if it's OK
56:44
with you, I would love for him to say a prayer for you as well
56:46
for your protection. Thank you, Elon.
56:56
Well, thank you so much for everything you've done for our
56:58
country. We, we do love you very much.
57:01
Thank you and, and as a pastor, but just as a person, right.
57:07
And even if I wasn't a Christian, and I know not
57:09
everyone here is a Christian, but I think there's quite a few
57:12
of you here and who, who are either way, we, we love all, all
57:18
people. It's that's not the issue.
57:20
The issue is, is fairness. What you're talking about the
57:23
issue being just and the justice being a weapon instead of law
57:30
fair instead of actually a just and, and all this corruption
57:34
you're talking about. And that's a bad spirit, if you
57:39
want to say it that way, putting it nicely.
57:42
It's it's something evil that has come against our country,
57:46
our morals, our families, etcetera.
57:49
And then you and the president and others getting attacked with
57:54
this outrage and this hate. So if you would allow me to
57:58
pray, you'd all who want to please join me, bow our heads
58:02
and pray. Gracious Heavenly Father, we are
58:04
thankful for our country. We are thankful that God does
58:10
bless America and that God is the source of all goodness, love
58:15
and provision. And that you, Lord God, have
58:19
provided a great nation with a great history.
58:23
And although we've gone through many rough times, you're still
58:26
very present and active with. Us Thank you for protecting.
58:31
President Trump, from that fatal attack, and we ask that you
58:37
envelope and protect all of those who are fighting for
58:42
justice, for freedom, for order, for dignity, and to reward
58:48
people according to merit. And especially put your hedge of
58:52
protection around Elon Musk, around his children, around his
58:56
whole entire family and all of his team members.
59:00
That all would do good and just by our country and freedom truly
59:08
and justice would reign. Once again, we ask.
59:11
This in the name of the blessed Savior Jesus Christ, who we
59:14
remember during this time of year, who suffered and died for
59:18
our sins. May you wash away.
59:21
All that is wrong with our country and start with us.
59:24
We ask this in Jesus name, Amen. Amen.
59:28
Thank you. Thank you very much.
59:42
Thank you. Good to you.
59:49
You can hang out if you want. Well, that was that was
59:57
beautiful. That was so beautiful.
59:58
So I think we're going to need divine protection, frankly.
1:00:04
Hey Elon, I'd like to start off by thanking you for all that
1:00:07
you've done for our country in the world as a greater whole.
1:00:11
And I mean that from the bottom of my heart as well.
1:00:14
I had a question for you as you go about your decision making at
1:00:19
Doge. How are you able to keep your
1:00:21
moral North star and not set precedents when it comes to
1:00:23
overstepping democratic processes Simply because the end
1:00:26
justifies the means and have outcomes similar to the last
1:00:30
election with Democratic presidential candidate being
1:00:32
appointed without due process that just further polarizes the
1:00:37
country. Also on a side note, one more
1:00:41
thing, do you see a place in the long term for decentralized
1:00:45
technology and society and government?
1:00:47
Yeah, I mean, to answer the second question first, I think
1:00:50
generally it's good to have decentralized systems because
1:00:56
the more centralized something is, the more the more power that
1:01:00
is in anyone single entity, the more corruption you're likely to
1:01:05
have. So decentralization I think is
1:01:07
good to minimize corruption. Then with respect to doge, I
1:01:14
mean, as I said, it's it's it's we're trying to be as literal as
1:01:19
possible. It just, it's department of
1:01:21
Government efficiency. And it's just literally going
1:01:24
through and saying, OK, this money was spent.
1:01:28
Is it money that most Americans would agree is sensible or is it
1:01:33
not? And you know, if it doesn't seem
1:01:36
sensible, then we, you know, say, well, we shouldn't spend
1:01:40
that money anymore, which, and we should, we should stop it.
1:01:43
So, and then we post the, the we try to be as transparent as
1:01:47
possible. So all the doge actions are
1:01:49
posted on the doge.gov website and on the doge handle on X.
1:01:53
So if people disagree with something, they, we can say,
1:01:55
well, which, which part do you disagree with?
1:01:59
And when, when I get these sort of attacks of like, oh, it's
1:02:02
unconstitutional. I mean, like, well, which
1:02:04
expenditure is unconstitutional that we have stopped because and
1:02:09
then they can, they don't know actually, because they don't,
1:02:11
they haven't actually looked at anything.
1:02:13
So now obviously a lot of this can be reversed with a new
1:02:17
administration, but at least for some period of time, we're going
1:02:21
to make sure that your taxpayer money is spent at least 15%
1:02:26
better. It's, it's, it's, it's not like
1:02:27
a, you know, I think it's a reasonable goal.
1:02:31
It's a rational goal. It's a sensible goal and and the
1:02:37
the net result, I should say, if, if, if we have the
1:02:40
combination of a trillion dollar increase in the, an economic
1:02:44
output and a trillion dollar decrease in the, in the budget
1:02:47
deficit, then the outcome should be that there is no inflation or
1:02:52
very little inflation from one year to the next.
1:02:55
So at the end of next year, you could, the prices will be at the
1:02:58
grocery store will be very similar to what they are right
1:03:01
now, which means that, you know, standard of living will, will,
1:03:06
will actually probably be higher, a little bit higher.
1:03:11
Whereas we've had rampant inflation to date, which
1:03:14
inflation is really just a pernicious tax that has been
1:03:18
used by governments throughout history.
1:03:21
It's very tempting for governments to use inflation as
1:03:24
a as a tax because it's indirect.
1:03:28
People see the prices rising at the grocery store or, you know,
1:03:32
for goods and services or for houses.
1:03:34
And they, they tend to like blame the store, but it's, it's
1:03:37
not the store, it's the government.
1:03:39
The government has reduced the value of money and as a result,
1:03:42
prices rise. So by, you know, changing by, by
1:03:49
reducing waste and forward, we'll essentially make the
1:03:53
economy more efficient and we'll shift people resources from the
1:03:58
government to the private sector.
1:04:01
And that will result in an increase in the output of goods
1:04:04
and services. And, and so the, the average
1:04:07
standard of living will therefore rise.
1:04:10
So like they're trying to make economics sound very
1:04:12
complicated, but it's, it's really not that complicated.
1:04:17
Standard, the standard of living increases when the, the, when
1:04:21
the output of goods, average output of goods and services
1:04:24
increases per person. There's basically more stuff.
1:04:27
Therefore you have more stuff to divide across the people.
1:04:31
That's it. And you can, you can run this
1:04:33
sort of thought experiment and say, like if it was 100 people
1:04:35
on an island and you'd say, well, how many people do you
1:04:38
want farming, fishing, making stuff, you know, versus, you
1:04:44
know, doing regulations. You would say like you wouldn't
1:04:47
want like 20 people doing regulations.
1:04:49
You know, it'd be like, that's too many.
1:04:53
Well then maybe you'd want one or two, I don't know.
1:04:55
Maybe none, ideally 0. I'm, I'm all for a small
1:05:01
government, by the way. I'm, I think really.
1:05:04
Yeah. You know, when the United States
1:05:12
was, when the United States was formed, there were only, you
1:05:17
know, you had the Secretary of State, Secretary of War, which I
1:05:20
think is a more accurate name than Defence.
1:05:25
And, you know, but it was secretary of War for a long
1:05:28
time. And you had secretary of the
1:05:30
Treasury and you had the attorney general.
1:05:33
That was it. And if we're entirely up to me,
1:05:37
I'd be like, let's, let's make it like that again.
1:05:42
Yeah. Hi, gentlemen.
1:05:48
I've got a quick question regarding government and
1:05:51
transparency. Do you think Dogecoin may ever
1:05:54
be used or the Dogecoin blockchain to be used for
1:05:57
maximum transparency? Well, the names are similar, but
1:06:02
they're doing 2 very different things.
1:06:05
So in fact, I was going to call it like the Government
1:06:09
Efficiency Commission, but that's a super boring name.
1:06:13
And then the Internet said no, it needs to be called the
1:06:15
Department of Government Efficiency.
1:06:17
It was like, well, Internet, that's the Arnet is right.
1:06:21
So, so we changed the name from Government Efficiency Commission
1:06:25
to Department of Government Efficiency, but there are no
1:06:27
plans for the government to use Dogecoin or, or anything as far
1:06:30
as I know. So that they, they happen to be
1:06:33
similar names. But, but really it's just, we're
1:06:36
just literally trying to make the government 15% more
1:06:39
efficient. It's kind of like, like most of
1:06:41
the work that's that's being done is, it's kind of like
1:06:44
homework. It's not like it's, it's just,
1:06:48
it's just work. You know, it frankly, it's like
1:06:51
washing the dishes. It's not like, you know, it's,
1:06:53
it's a lot of, it's not super fun work.
1:06:57
It's just, you know, going through and looking at every
1:07:00
expense and saying why, you know, why is this department
1:07:03
have like 10 times more software licenses than people?
1:07:08
That doesn't make sense. You know what, why, why is this?
1:07:12
Why is the government spending $10 million a year on Politico
1:07:16
subscriptions? That doesn't make sense.
1:07:19
You know, like there's just one thing after another like that.
1:07:21
It's like think things that are just kind of kind of boring.
1:07:25
So it's, it's like a ton of boring stuff like you do hear
1:07:28
about like the, the, the sort of weird stuff that makes the
1:07:31
headlines, but most of it, most of the costs that are being cut
1:07:33
are just very basic boring things.
1:07:36
It's it's a, it's a, it's a, it's like homework at scale is
1:07:40
what I'd call, you know, the department of government
1:07:42
efficiency. Can I can?
1:07:44
I add some of this question about transparency.
1:07:48
I'm really selling it here, yeah.
1:07:49
Yeah. No, no, no.
1:07:50
I, I, I would say the principles that you want to set out for
1:07:54
doge are they begin with truth. Truth, Find the truth #1 find
1:08:02
the truth. Why?
1:08:04
Because the government, government's gotten so big that
1:08:07
actually the people don't even know what's there.
1:08:09
They don't know the source of truth.
1:08:10
So these licenses, it's like people bought these licenses
1:08:13
because they're bad people and they wanted to pay Microsoft.
1:08:15
They just kept buying licenses. Could Microsoft keeps telling
1:08:17
them, I mean, it's just it's that strange and.
1:08:19
We don't want to pick on Microsoft.
1:08:20
It's like every every software company by.
1:08:22
The way any software company picks my company X, they, they
1:08:24
didn't, they bought these licenses because they just
1:08:27
thought they should buy more licenses, more people coming in
1:08:28
and there's no one there. People are coming back to the
1:08:30
office, right? They, it's just finding truth.
1:08:33
The number one principle is truth.
1:08:35
And then transparency is number 2, I think on the list, right?
1:08:38
So find the truth, make it public, make it transparent and
1:08:40
#3 is man, do it fast, make it efficient and be urgent.
1:08:44
Yeah, those, those are the principles that you launch put
1:08:46
in the dose. Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's
1:08:50
worth pointing out like like it's, it's actually difficult
1:08:53
to, you have to recalibrate how dumb things can be because it's
1:08:59
the government, you know, frankly, it's like Dumber than
1:09:01
you think it could possibly be. So, you know, like for example,
1:09:07
there we found there were a whole bunch of what I call ghost
1:09:10
payments going out where the, the government contracting
1:09:15
officer had retired or, or changed jobs or were dead or,
1:09:19
or, I don't know, they were not around anymore and they forgot
1:09:21
to turn off the payment stream to some company.
1:09:24
And it's, it's like leaving the, the money fostered on and you,
1:09:29
you know, leave the house, you know, and it's just the money
1:09:31
fostered keeps going. And it's a pretty rare
1:09:34
organization that will complain about receiving money.
1:09:38
So organizations suddenly like, is that waste of fraud?
1:09:40
I mean, the government did send them the money, but they didn't
1:09:43
deserve it. So then, well, OK, we should
1:09:47
turn off the money spigot if they if the contract is over,
1:09:50
you know, type of thing. So one of the things that we
1:09:55
made a recommendation to the Treasury that that the payment
1:10:00
classification codes and, and the explanation for the payment
1:10:04
be mandatory fields. So, so just and have a name
1:10:10
attached. So we could just ask the person
1:10:13
who approved the payment, is this payment a good a good
1:10:16
payment? Does this make sense?
1:10:18
This is the kind of thing that is, that is normal in, you know,
1:10:21
for individuals and, and for companies, but well, that was
1:10:25
not the case. So the, the reason why the, the,
1:10:28
the government could not pass an audit was because the
1:10:31
information did not exist that it, that would be required to
1:10:35
pass an audit. Like it was literally impossible
1:10:38
because you just had all these blank checks going out with no
1:10:40
explanation and no payment code. So how you supposed to do an
1:10:43
audit? It's literally impossible.
1:10:45
So that's what I mean by like, it's very basic stuff like we
1:10:48
just want the congressional appropriation payment code to be
1:10:53
mandatory and a very short explanation.
1:10:56
We're not even going to judge what the explanation is, but
1:10:58
that there'll be any explanation at all.
1:11:00
And a name attached is was like revolutionary and and my guess
1:11:07
is this will probably save $100 billion a year, like a lot, you
1:11:11
know, so. Maybe I can tell those stories
1:11:18
from social scrutinization that people like here too, which is
1:11:22
at Social Security Administration IT Act.
1:11:24
They have passed their audit. Actually they've got, I don't
1:11:26
know about 100 material deficiency, but they passed
1:11:28
their audit. When we looked at the balance
1:11:30
sheet, we found that $800 million had fallen off the
1:11:35
balance sheet last year, $800 million.
1:11:37
What do you mean fell off the balance?
1:11:39
Sheet. It's exactly the question I
1:11:40
asked Elon. Thank you.
1:11:41
Where did it fall to exactly? Where did it fall to?
1:11:44
So I I asked the auditors. Come in.
1:11:46
It's like a comedy sketch comedy routine here.
1:11:48
Where did it go exactly? But wait, where did it go?
1:11:50
Exactly. So here's what happened.
1:11:52
I I, I brought, I asked the auditors come in, I'm I won't
1:11:55
get the name of the auditors come on in and I asked the audit
1:11:57
card number what is fell off the balance you mean is that a gap
1:12:00
term or a non gap term you. Never heard that.
1:12:02
What's that mean? Well, the payment plans, because
1:12:05
under the last administration, you could pay if you owed, if
1:12:08
you got overpaid on Social Security, like if you would, if
1:12:10
you're on, if you're getting SSI or a disability and they paid
1:12:15
you too much money, you got a job.
1:12:16
I didn't tell them they paid you too much money.
1:12:18
They dropped that payment plan to $10 a month Max.
1:12:20
So the payment plans went out past the system date.
1:12:23
So if I remember correctly it was 2047 payment plans output
1:12:26
passed system date. When it went past the system
1:12:28
date, literally it fell off the system, it disappeared and the
1:12:34
officers were supposed to the people, the technicians were
1:12:35
supposed to put notes in the in the system that this was going
1:12:39
to be collected. The notes were so bad, the
1:12:41
orders concluded this could not be collected.
1:12:43
And we literally lost $800 million.
1:12:46
Go on. And I said of the order, how
1:12:48
could that possibly be? And she said, well, it's not
1:12:49
really a material, it's a 1.5 trillion program.
1:12:51
I said, well, it's a material if it's your money.
1:12:53
Is it in the computer? It's not on the computer.
1:12:55
It fell off the computer. Is it in?
1:12:57
Yeah, the computer, like 200 the computer.
1:12:59
That's in the computer. Disappeared $800 million Just
1:13:03
disappeared I. Mean it's crazy.
1:13:04
So there's like it's one like naughty thing after another like
1:13:07
that. Yeah, it's, yeah, I mean.
1:13:12
It's crazy. Anyway, we're just, we're just
1:13:14
trying to basically fix the computers so that we know what
1:13:16
the heck's going on. Yeah, it's just like, please
1:13:21
and, and, and you know, like I said, being fully transparent,
1:13:26
being fully transparent with the American people.
1:13:29
So you know exactly what's going on and just just making sure
1:13:32
that, you know, yeah. Anyway, money is not wasteful or
1:13:36
fraudulent. You know, one interesting
1:13:39
statistic was that 40% of the of the calls into Social Security
1:13:44
were fraudulent, like meaning that that it was someone trying
1:13:48
to get a Social Security payment that was going to a senior to to
1:13:53
go to a instead to go to a fraud ring.
1:13:56
So that was almost half of the phone calls were fraudulent.
1:14:02
Probably the other half were people asking what happened to
1:14:04
my Social Security. True, actually.
1:14:08
You know, like, hey, where did my what?
1:14:11
This is bananas. Yeah, I mean, we, we found this
1:14:13
actually the people there, it's just you knew this was going on
1:14:16
and they had been complaining about it for a long time and no
1:14:18
one fixed it because. And these were these were mostly
1:14:21
criminal rings outside the country in other other places
1:14:24
the world that are are jamming up the phone systems, calling in
1:14:27
using just these simple security questions because you can
1:14:30
actually this was how crazy it was.
1:14:32
You could change your direct deposit information at Social
1:14:35
Security by simply answering 6 questions on the phone, like
1:14:39
your mother's maiden name, your date of birth, etcetera.
1:14:41
Stuff you can find on the Internet.
1:14:42
Easily found on the dark web. That's why it was so easy.
1:14:45
It was a huge, huge exploitation, super open door
1:14:48
that I mean, the bank vault was open and the criminals ran right
1:14:50
in and took the money and they took it away from our seniors,
1:14:54
right? So what happened is if like my
1:14:55
dad's 84, he'd go get it, checks listed in the bank account
1:14:58
wasn't there, then he's going to hold through a whole process to
1:15:01
get it with the money back in the government, which takes a
1:15:03
long time. It's the government, right?
1:15:05
So we, we put in a very simple 2FA system.
1:15:08
All this nonsense you've seen the media about.
1:15:10
We turned off the phone lines that are not true.
1:15:12
All, all we did, all they did actually we, we recommended to
1:15:16
Social Security that they put in a very simple 2FA system and
1:15:20
they will. 22 factor. Authentication, they say kind of
1:15:23
use the banks like pretty simple.
1:15:26
You have a bank account, you do this.
1:15:27
And you know what? They did it.
1:15:29
They said, yeah, you're right, we should do that.
1:15:30
They went and did it. Good for them.
1:15:32
They did it. No one had the will to do it.
1:15:33
They did it. And they're going to keep
1:15:35
increasing security. They've got, we've gave them,
1:15:37
we've gave them a lot more recommendations and they're on
1:15:40
the road to increase security. Stop all this nonsense so our
1:15:43
our seniors and our our people that are disabled don't get
1:15:45
stolen from. Yeah, this is really worth
1:15:47
emphasizing because like the, you know, the radical left are
1:15:52
saying that like somehow we're stealing Social Security.
1:15:54
Like, first of all, I like, you know, I, I don't need the money,
1:15:59
OK? In fact, it's costing me a lot
1:16:04
to be in this job. You know, you had like Tim Walsh
1:16:09
dancing on stage showing a chart of Tesla stock, which is a
1:16:14
really awful thing for him to do, you know, because what
1:16:19
they're trying to do is put massive pressure on on me and,
1:16:23
and Tesla, I guess to, to, you know, I don't know, stop, stop
1:16:27
doing this. But you know, it's, you know,
1:16:33
my, my Tesla stock and the stock of everyone who holds Tesla's
1:16:36
gone went roughly in half. I mean, it's a big deal.
1:16:38
So not, not only is am I not getting any, I'm not getting
1:16:43
paid, definitely not stealing money and would never get away
1:16:45
with it, but the value of my Tesla stock is in half.
1:16:49
So this is a very expensive job, is what I'm saying.
1:16:53
And but, but I think it's it's it's.
1:16:56
You're welcome. Thank you, thank you, thank you,
1:17:20
thank you very much guys. So but long term, I think Tesla
1:17:28
stocks going to do fine. So, you know, maybe it's a
1:17:33
buying opportunity, so, but but the, the actual thing we're
1:17:41
doing is, is making sure that people do get their Social
1:17:44
Security and that it doesn't get stolen so. 100%.
1:17:48
Yeah, yeah. Sorry.
1:17:53
Go, go ahead. Hi, Elon, I got a question for
1:17:57
you about Dodge, right. Should everybody in this room
1:18:02
has got a bunch of money sitting in a bunch of little boxes in a
1:18:06
bunch of different states. And it turned into crickets when
1:18:10
you brought it up online that you were going to go check our
1:18:12
gold. And I'm worried about the
1:18:14
Democrats and Joe Biden's last administration with the money
1:18:17
not be in there. Did you get blocked or are you
1:18:20
still able to check that? So I'm not sure I understand
1:18:23
exactly what you're referring to.
1:18:25
Fort Knox. Oh, Fort Knox.
1:18:27
Oh, yeah, Yeah. Yeah.
1:18:27
Yeah. Right.
1:18:28
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
1:18:30
Well, that's up to the president, of course.
1:18:32
But I think it would be. I think it would be awesome to
1:18:36
live stream Fort Knox, you know, I mean, that would be really
1:18:42
fun. And, and after all, it it, it is
1:18:46
actually the gold of the American people.
1:18:48
So the American people should, it seems to me, have a right to
1:18:51
see their gold. You know, hopefully it looks
1:18:54
really cool, you know, open the doors.
1:18:57
Like, is it there? Like, is that really gold?
1:19:00
Let's check, you know, so maybe it'll be really, really
1:19:05
interesting. I'm I'm all for it.
1:19:08
The president says he's he's interested in doing it, So
1:19:10
hopefully that happens. So.
1:19:13
All right. Good evening, Mr. Musk.
1:19:18
How are you? Good.
1:19:18
How's it going? Good.
1:19:20
Good. My name is Vito Gabriel.
1:19:22
I'm 18 years old. This is my first election that
1:19:24
I'll be voting in. So great.
1:19:26
Very exciting. Oh, actually, that that reminds
1:19:30
me. So it it is actually possible to
1:19:33
both register to vote on Tuesday.
1:19:35
If someone has not registered to vote, they can register to vote
1:19:38
in Wisconsin and they can vote same day.
1:19:40
So even if somebody's not a registered voter, you can do it
1:19:42
everything on on Tuesday. So big back story.
1:19:47
When I was younger, 8 years old to be exact, my father put me to
1:19:50
work in my family's restaurant and it led me to want to start
1:19:54
my own business and to be successful just like you.
1:19:58
And in my opinion, you're one of the most successful businessmen
1:20:01
to ever live. And So what advice would you
1:20:04
give to young entrepreneurs who want to start their own
1:20:08
businesses and give back to this great country?
1:20:11
Well, sure. Well, it is, it is very, very
1:20:18
hard to start a business and have it succeed.
1:20:21
You know, it's, it is true that most businesses that start do
1:20:24
not succeed. So I mean, I, I guess I'd really
1:20:29
just say, you know, if, if, if there's a product or service
1:20:34
that you think is really needed, then you, you go out and you,
1:20:39
you, you make that product or you produce that service off of
1:20:43
that service and, and try to be as useful as possible.
1:20:49
Really, you know, this, it's, it's like whether you know,
1:20:55
it's, it's a great restaurant or store or a technology company or
1:20:59
whatever the case may be, it's really just like, are you doing
1:21:03
things that are useful to your fellow human beings?
1:21:07
And, you know, if, if you are, then I think the company will be
1:21:10
successful. So that's, that's, that's really
1:21:15
what it comes down to is, is just being, being useful.
1:21:18
Like people ask me like, what's the top advice?
1:21:20
I'm like, try to be useful. It's actually very difficult to
1:21:22
be useful, you know, but, you know, I have a lot of admiration
1:21:28
for anyone who just does an honest day's work, you know,
1:21:31
making products or, or producing services for their fellow human
1:21:36
beings. That's what a company is, you
1:21:38
know, that's, that's it. So, but it but it, it is hard.
1:21:48
I mean, I mean, totally, frankly like that.
1:21:50
I generally said if, if somebody needs encouragement to start a
1:21:54
company, I would recommend not and started not starting a
1:21:57
company, it's, it's, it's a, it's very difficult.
1:22:03
Like, you know, if you look at, say the automotive industry, the
1:22:07
only two American car companies that have not gone bankrupt are
1:22:11
Tesla and Ford. So it's a, it's a bit, it's a
1:22:17
big cemetery is what I'm saying. So that's a tough one.
1:22:20
You know, very, very top industry.
1:22:23
And there were really no, like commercial rocket companies that
1:22:26
were successful before SpaceX. It's, it's generally very
1:22:29
difficult to make the value of the output exceed the cost of
1:22:33
the input. And that's, that's really what
1:22:36
defines a successful business. And, and, and profit is really
1:22:40
the difference between the value of the output and the cost of
1:22:43
the input, that, that's what profit is.
1:22:48
So, but it's, it's like shockingly hard to make the
1:22:52
output more valuable than the input.
1:22:55
That's what I've found. Yeah.
1:22:58
So. All right.
1:23:02
Hi, Elon. Thank you so much for being
1:23:04
here. Would you agree with me that the
1:23:07
economic illiteracy in this country is staggering, that
1:23:12
people don't understand how close we are?
1:23:16
I would say that that is true to going over the fiscal Cliff.
1:23:20
Yeah. Right, yes, most people
1:23:23
actually, I think most people, well, I think a lot of people
1:23:25
don't know what a national debt is.
1:23:29
Like how did this national debt come about?
1:23:32
And, and how come there's all this money that somehow we owe
1:23:35
it, but we didn't sign up to be to owing this money.
1:23:39
But there's, you know, it's over $30 trillion of, of national
1:23:42
debt and that, that doesn't count future obligations.
1:23:47
So, and, and that that's just doesn't count state and state
1:23:50
and local debt. So it's, it's a lot of
1:23:54
basically, it's a lot of money that the government has signed
1:23:57
everyone in America up for. And yeah, so, so there's if, if
1:24:05
we, if we don't do something about it, then eventually there
1:24:07
won't be any, any money for anything.
1:24:10
We'll just be paying interest. You know, a company, sorry, I
1:24:16
should say a country is much like a person.
1:24:19
It's just, it's just bigger. A country is a collection of
1:24:22
people. But just like a person can go
1:24:25
bankrupt, a country collectively can also go de facto bankrupt,
1:24:31
essentially by diluting the currency to where it's
1:24:33
worthless. And that's, that's where we're
1:24:36
headed unless we are, you know, to take immediate and dramatic
1:24:41
action with respect to government spending.
1:24:45
That's we're we're, we're in deep trouble, basically.
1:24:48
You've seen this in places like Venezuela.
1:24:50
Yeah, exactly. So in in a lot of countries
1:24:53
where with it's, I think things have gone to hell in a
1:24:57
handbasket. And it's like, we just need to
1:25:00
not do that, you know. So if if you know, if the ship
1:25:05
of America sinks, we all sink with it.
1:25:08
You know, this is something that I try to tell people in in the
1:25:12
sort of commercial sector that like, you're not going to your
1:25:17
company is not going to make it if the ship of America sinks.
1:25:20
So we're all going to like, you know, work together here to make
1:25:22
sure it does not. Yeah, Antonio, feel free to ad
1:25:32
Lib as you wish me. This is the only place left to
1:25:37
go. That's great.
1:25:38
Right, exactly. I don't think we can run off to
1:25:40
some other country and be OK. It's is America, you know, I I
1:25:44
will die in America. I'm not going anywhere.
1:25:47
I I will too, yeah. I mean, I might go to Mars, but
1:25:54
that will be part of America. Yeah.
1:26:00
Hi, Elan. Thank you so much for taking the
1:26:07
time out of your busy schedule to be here today with us in
1:26:10
Green Bay, WI. Yeah, I just wanted to say that
1:26:17
Dozier's findings demonstrate to the American people that the
1:26:19
government clearly does not care about our hard earned tax
1:26:23
dollars. I've I'm only 26, but I can
1:26:27
imagine it's frustrating for people who have worked their
1:26:30
entire lives to see their tax dollars going to fraud, waste
1:26:36
and abuse. And you alone have contributed
1:26:39
so much money to our government. Yes, via taxes.
1:26:43
So thank you. You're welcome.
1:26:45
But I'm sorry that your money is not being spent very well.
1:26:50
I you've clearly shown your leadership and team is capable
1:26:54
of transforming our government into something better than what
1:26:57
we see today. I just want to say I'm sure I'm
1:27:03
not the only one who's wondering, but we know that Doge
1:27:07
has found quite a bit of money and we would like to see some of
1:27:11
that returned to the American people on.
1:27:13
Do you have any information on when DOGE checks would be
1:27:18
written or sent out? Sure.
1:27:23
Well, I guess we we need to be successful at scale.
1:27:28
We've made a lot of progress, but there's still a tremendous
1:27:31
amount of work to do effectively by as government spending is
1:27:38
made more efficient and spending is reduced, the the tax by
1:27:41
inflation is reduced. So one way or another, you, you
1:27:47
will effectively be better off if resources in the United
1:27:52
States are not wasted. So, and it's, it's, it's, it's
1:27:59
a, you know, somewhat up to the Congress and, and maybe the
1:28:02
president to, you know, as to whether specific checks are cut.
1:28:06
But, but whether a check is cut or not, if you, if you reduce
1:28:12
wasteful spending, the, the economy is going to be better
1:28:15
off. There will be people will do
1:28:18
more useful jobs than before. The total output of goods and
1:28:21
services will increase and then the average standard of living
1:28:24
will increase. So that that's yeah.
1:28:33
I think the most important lesson in economics is simply
1:28:38
common sense that the the more people in a country that are
1:28:43
engaged in producing useful products and services, the
1:28:46
better off that country will be. Like you could you could run the
1:28:51
sort of thought experiment to say in the limit, if we moved
1:28:54
everyone in the car industry into the DMV, there would be no
1:28:57
cars, but there would be a lot of regulators.
1:29:00
So then you say, well, OK, well then how many people should be
1:29:03
in the government versus not government?
1:29:06
And generally, I think you want to want to minimize the number
1:29:09
of people in government. It's this little, you know, be a
1:29:11
lot of people in government, but you want to keep that to a
1:29:14
minimum and move people from low to negative productivity roles
1:29:18
to high productivity roles in the private sector.
1:29:22
Yeah. OK.
1:29:27
Hey, Elon, So the first time I heard about population collapse,
1:29:30
I think first from you on Joe Rogan.
1:29:32
I grew up in the generation where it was very
1:29:35
overpopulation, global warming. A lot of people don't want to
1:29:38
have kids. My wife and I just had our
1:29:40
first. She's a year.
1:29:41
Congratulations. Hi, John.
1:29:42
Thank you. And I'm finding out very quickly
1:29:46
a lot of these things I was told about having kids, losing
1:29:49
personal freedom. It's well worth it.
1:29:51
I mean, I would recommend to everybody, as I'm sure you
1:29:53
wouldn't. Absolutely.
1:29:54
I mean, I've been banging the baby drum for ages.
1:29:57
Yes. So my question to you is, what's
1:30:01
the most surprising and fulfilling thing you've learned
1:30:04
from your kids, especially? We've seen you around X all the
1:30:06
time with Trump. So what's your most fulfilling
1:30:08
thing you've learned from having kids?
1:30:10
Yeah. X is.
1:30:11
X is in the back there. He.
1:30:12
You know, So hopefully he's watching this.
1:30:17
Hopefully. Yeah.
1:30:19
I think, you know, I think nothing makes you happier than
1:30:22
kids really is, is what is the truth of it.
1:30:25
So, you know, kids are my greatest host of happiness and I
1:30:33
really encourage as as Tony knows, I've encouraged all my
1:30:37
friends and everyone to have kids.
1:30:42
It, it is, it is concerning, you know, the, the United States has
1:30:45
been below replacement rate. The birth rate in the United
1:30:48
States has been below replacement rate since roughly
1:30:52
when I was born, around 197071 thereabouts.
1:30:57
And I think last year was the lowest birth rate on record.
1:30:59
It was very, it was very low. And then we're seeing this trend
1:31:04
in almost every country on earth.
1:31:07
This is, this is worrying because it's like, well, you
1:31:11
know, if something doesn't happen, you know, humanity is
1:31:14
going to disappear. So it's, I think very important
1:31:19
to have kids like it's, it's, you know, it's, it'll kids will
1:31:25
make you very happy And, and there's, but there's also like
1:31:28
we got to keep humanity going here, you know, no, no humans,
1:31:32
no humanity. It's.
1:31:33
Elon practice what he preaches too, by the way.
1:31:35
He's having lots of kids. Sorry.
1:31:36
You practice what you preach, and yeah, for sure.
1:31:39
And he tells all his friends to do it, too.
1:31:40
I can tell you that for sure for sure.
1:31:43
Yeah, So, All right. Hi.
1:31:49
Thanks for coming. My name is Adam.
1:31:51
I'm a postal worker. I'm wondering if you could give
1:31:53
some insight into some of the reforms or changes that DOGE
1:31:57
might be looking at for the Postal Service.
1:32:00
Well, actually may perhaps I can ask you what, what what should
1:32:04
DOGE be doing with respect to the Postal Service?
1:32:07
I'll write you a letter. OK.
1:32:08
OK. I I suspect you've seen that
1:32:15
things are not entirely perfect in the Postal Service, yes.
1:32:23
So I mean, obviously there's it's, it's, you know, delivering
1:32:27
mail and packages is very important.
1:32:31
You know, there's reason for why the Postal Service was created,
1:32:37
but and I haven't really had a chance to look at the Postal
1:32:40
Service yet, but OK, I. Have a little detail on the
1:32:45
analysis you want? Do you do a little bit?
1:32:47
OK? Sure.
1:32:47
Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't say that I
1:32:48
want to be very general here, but there is this thing about,
1:32:51
you know, you could tell us like there's a thing about large
1:32:54
volume users, Postal Service versus small, small volume
1:32:57
users, right. So like some company please
1:33:00
I've. Heard of that?
1:33:01
Yeah. Yeah.
1:33:02
I mean, you'd probably see it, right?
1:33:03
Like you see there's some companies in the world that use
1:33:05
Postal Service a lot and pay the same rate as everybody in this
1:33:08
room that uses a little bit. Does that seem fair to you when
1:33:10
you see it on the front line? I can't really say.
1:33:14
Well, he can't say because he works there, you know.
1:33:16
OK, doesn't seem fair to me. I don't work there.
1:33:19
So I mean, there, there are quite, there's a bunch of
1:33:20
questions about this people are asking that I think are
1:33:23
interesting analysis. And when you look at the source
1:33:25
of truth and the data and you make that transparent, I think
1:33:28
it's going to be obvious what the right answers are.
1:33:30
Yeah, it it seems like some companies are not being charged
1:33:33
the right amount for package delivery and there's probably
1:33:38
more administrative overhead than there should be.
1:33:40
Would be some safe guesses I suspect.
1:33:43
Those are good guesses. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:33:44
Good guesses. All right, Yeah.
1:33:47
Elon, how are you? Yo, good.
1:33:49
Hey, how's it going? It's Adam, your #1 reply guy on
1:33:52
X. Hey, with Scott Presser.
1:33:54
It's good to finally beat in person.
1:33:55
Cool. So I'm glad you like a lot of my
1:33:57
stuff. Yeah.
1:33:58
Constantly replying to my stuff, liking my stuff.
1:34:00
And I love to create material because I'm a former Democrat
1:34:02
myself, just like you. Yeah.
1:34:03
And I want to help bring over moderate voters from the
1:34:05
Democrat Party who are disenfranchised.
1:34:07
Yeah. And I'd love to be able to
1:34:08
create more content to help you out to help us win more
1:34:11
elections, to win the midterms for 2028 and on.
1:34:13
Sounds good. Would I be able to get a follow
1:34:15
up from your main because you followed me from your old cyber
1:34:17
gamer. Oh, I did OK yeah, at this point
1:34:22
I got I I yeah, sure I'll I'll do that.
1:34:26
Sure. I mean, it's, it's right now
1:34:30
like I used to only follow maybe, you know, a few 100
1:34:34
accounts, which it was possible to read a lot, most of what they
1:34:39
posted, but now I think I follow like 1100 accounts, which makes
1:34:42
it impossible. So, so like, it's just like I
1:34:45
can only see a few things that people post at random
1:34:48
essentially. So yeah, but I'm, I'm trying to
1:34:54
digest as much information as my human brain can manage.
1:34:58
So, but yeah, thank you for for your engagement and just, you
1:35:04
know, in in general, like try to report on what's really
1:35:07
happening. Is, is, is great.
1:35:09
Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Moss, thank you
1:35:15
so much for being here and bringing attention to what's
1:35:18
going on with our Supreme Court here.
1:35:20
It's very important. And I think it would have gotten
1:35:23
no attention, not even half of what it's getting now if you
1:35:27
hadn't stepped in for good or bad.
1:35:30
Yeah. Negative press and good press.
1:35:32
We think exactly the, the, it totally, I mean, obviously for
1:35:38
us, any kind of special election is going to get a fraction,
1:35:42
small fraction of the, the attention of a say, a
1:35:44
presidential election. And and then, you know, normally
1:35:51
a, an election for a judge would not be that big of a deal.
1:35:55
It just so happens that this, in this case, it could decide the
1:35:58
control of the US House of Representatives, which is a
1:36:03
yeah, a huge deal. Yeah.
1:36:04
Yeah. My personal experience with
1:36:07
Judge Crawford, I am a family that she moved a pedophile right
1:36:12
next to our what? Really.
1:36:14
Yeah, it is a true story the in the ads that you're hearing
1:36:17
from. Mr. Schimmel, I am one of the
1:36:21
homeowners that had to live next to him for many years, unaware.
1:36:25
So the letter that I wrote to her, I'm sure played into what
1:36:30
we are experiencing now in family court family.
1:36:33
We're veterans, 20 years. It just was not good for him.
1:36:37
It was not good for me. And we're trying to work through
1:36:40
our family court situation. But what we're realizing is the
1:36:43
two strategies that they use are indoctrination or intimidation.
1:36:48
And if you step up and say we're practicing Catholic family, the
1:36:53
result is her band of Mary Rogue judges and the court affiliates
1:37:00
and the commissioners will flood the family court, have flooded
1:37:05
the family court system. So I guess my question would be,
1:37:10
regardless of what happens with this very important vote, let's
1:37:14
not forget what's happening in the family court system in Dane
1:37:17
County, Wisconsin, that's being flooded with these rogue judges
1:37:21
and affiliates and commissioners who then, if you don't subscribe
1:37:25
to what they're saying, they will just wipe out your ability
1:37:30
to raise your family or proceed with your family in a way that
1:37:34
you feel your culture dictates, your religion dictates your your
1:37:39
financial background dictates. It has gone completely bananas
1:37:46
and I'm wondering what you can do to keep the light shine on
1:37:49
our court system in Dane County. It does have lasting effect on
1:37:53
families and it will breed out our ability to raise our
1:37:57
families in the spirit in which we feel is most healthy for our
1:38:01
our young, our children and and the sanctity of our family.
1:38:07
Absolutely. I think that's fundamental to
1:38:18
life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, which is the
1:38:21
foundation of America, that you know, that, that you, you should
1:38:25
have control over your family, not the state.
1:38:27
The state should not have control over your family.
1:38:29
It's insane that people would think that so.
1:38:36
We've had friends have to escape California because of this.
1:38:38
Yeah. Yeah.
1:38:38
I mean, it's literally had to leave because the state tried to
1:38:41
dictate their kids, because they're imposing the state's
1:38:43
values on the kids and they literally had to leave
1:38:45
overnight. More than one friend we've had
1:38:47
the story. Really.
1:38:48
Really. Yeah, I know there's a thing a
1:38:51
change to law in California where if the teacher is
1:38:55
determined that it's in the kids interest, like like if you don't
1:39:00
respect like, you know, I don't know, 10 year olds pronouns or
1:39:03
something, the the the state can take your kid in California.
1:39:09
So it's, it's insane, you know, it's, it's it's state, state
1:39:15
forced indoctrination. And if you, if you don't match
1:39:19
their, you know, whatever the, the, the state wants, then they
1:39:24
can take your kid in California. It's a big deal.
1:39:28
Yeah, exactly. It says.
1:39:29
So it should just be, you know, family should have control over
1:39:32
their own circumstances and it should not be the government
1:39:35
that decides what how your children should be raised.
1:39:46
Hey, Lynn, my name is Josh. There's a lot of questions.
1:39:48
I see there is. We were going to answer
1:39:51
everything at this point, but I'm sorry.
1:39:54
Hey, Eric, please go ahead. Sorry, go ahead.
1:39:56
Thank you for taking the questions.
1:39:57
A lot of people I agree. So I just I was wondering, I've
1:40:01
seen I noticed that there was another a second Mechzilla being
1:40:04
built at the star base. Are we going to be go for launch
1:40:08
for the Artemis mission coming up?
1:40:12
I mean, that's a very, very sort of space question.
1:40:15
So there's there, there are, there are, there are two towers
1:40:21
in South Texas and, and then two and, and there were planned to
1:40:23
build 2 towers at the Cape in Florida and then probably some,
1:40:28
some more elsewhere in the future.
1:40:29
But there'll be, there'll be twin, twin towers at the Cape
1:40:32
and twin towers in South Texas Star base.
1:40:36
All right. Hey, Eli, good to meet you.
1:40:42
Thank you for everything you're doing for the country and the
1:40:45
world. Thank you.
1:40:47
I I have two questions. They asked me to keep it short.
1:40:51
Sure. When when do you envision
1:40:56
solving blindness and bringing that to the masses where it'll
1:41:00
be for everyone? And the other is, is robo Taxi
1:41:05
on schedule? Yeah, well, there's certainly a
1:41:10
wide range of questions tonight. The yes.
1:41:12
So with for, for neural link, we we've actually had neural link
1:41:17
has had in monkeys a working, you know device we call blind
1:41:23
site where it's been working well and monkeys are healthy for
1:41:29
for a few years now. And we're hoping later this year
1:41:33
to do our first device implant for human enabling someone who
1:41:37
is completely blind to see. It's going to be low res at
1:41:41
first, like Atari graphics, you know, So I want to set
1:41:44
expectations appropriately. So it'll, it'll start off with
1:41:47
like like very low res. But then over time, I think
1:41:51
eventually the implant would enable vision that is like
1:41:54
superhuman. So that would be that would be
1:41:57
pretty cool. And then, yeah, I think so.
1:42:01
Currently on track to do unsupervised full self driving
1:42:06
in Austin in June. So I, I, I think we're probably
1:42:17
will, we'll take maybe four more questions.
1:42:20
So just two from that side and two from that side, and then
1:42:22
we'll call it a night. So go ahead.
1:42:25
Oh, thank you so much. First of all, you are beyond
1:42:28
absolutely legendary and an absolute true hero.
1:42:30
So thank you so much for everything you're doing,
1:42:32
achieving, accomplishing. You've done so many impossibles.
1:42:36
It is astonishing. Thank you.
1:42:39
My name is Brian Wright, and I've been filming from last year
1:42:41
all the way into this year, a docu series on finding peace.
1:42:45
And during this election year, the episode was how many lines
1:42:49
do we actually need to cross in order to be able to find peace?
1:42:52
And I wanted to ask you, where do you feel like we are in this
1:42:55
way, this divide? Are we so far divided as to
1:42:58
where there's no coming back to the middle or where do you see
1:43:01
us being? Yeah, we should restore the
1:43:07
Smith might act so that we, the government cannot spy or issue
1:43:10
propaganda to the people. So yeah, I don't know.
1:43:21
I mean, I kind of thought that we're headed in a good direction
1:43:27
for a while there and then and then the last, you know, month
1:43:30
or so, they've been these like, like crazy violent things
1:43:34
happening against Tesla and, and protesting me and whatnot.
1:43:37
And I'm like, this is just nuts, you know, and, and, and, you
1:43:41
know, a lot of people sort of parading signs around saying
1:43:44
that, you know, that President Trump and you almost should die
1:43:49
type of thing. And I'm like, this is really
1:43:50
nuts, you know, But I think the, the real issue is like, like
1:43:54
who's organizing and funding that?
1:43:56
Like the, the, the same people that organized and funded the,
1:43:59
you know, the, the infiltrators, you know who the Heckler is
1:44:04
earlier tonight. So it's, it's, it's whoever they
1:44:06
are, you know, and I guess we know some of their names, but
1:44:09
it's really yeah, yeah. Saw us and a bunch of others.
1:44:18
I'm not sure really what I sometimes I wonder what is their
1:44:20
goal? Like what, what's what's their
1:44:22
aim? You know, I guess is it
1:44:25
communism, I guess is a part of it or just I don't know.
1:44:31
Sometimes I want to like, have they thought through what
1:44:33
they're if they'd say they got their goal, what then what you
1:44:36
know, so I don't know. I'm hopeful that things calm
1:44:41
down, that there's, you know, we gauge that, that people engage
1:44:46
in like dialogue, but not not violence.
1:44:50
And that, you know, if for those who, who do push violence and
1:44:55
destruction of property and intimidation, obviously that
1:44:59
they, they need to face legal consequences for that.
1:45:04
So and, and, and the president has has said that, you know,
1:45:12
that that needs to happen. Obviously, if people are pushing
1:45:14
violence and destruction of property, that that is against
1:45:18
the law and and they, they need to face the consequences of
1:45:21
that. So thank you.
1:45:22
Yeah, Thank you, Elon. I constantly hear that the DOGE
1:45:30
efforts are going to do things like take away Social Security
1:45:34
payments and reduce other government payments like that.
1:45:38
You've touched on it tonight, but can you stay to stay to
1:45:42
you've discussed that length over the last few months.
1:45:44
You talk, talk again about how the DOGE efforts are actually
1:45:48
going to affect things like the payments and other programs like
1:45:51
that. Yeah, I guess it would be
1:45:53
helpful because so I just stated as crisply and clearly as
1:45:57
possible that DOGE will, will absolutely ensure that people
1:46:03
get their Social Security, make sure they get their Social
1:46:06
Security, make sure they get their Medicaid, and will not be
1:46:09
cutting any legitimate payments whatsoever.
1:46:12
Crystal clear. I'll just add to this.
1:46:19
I, I've, I've been there working there and I spent about the
1:46:22
first 3 or 4 weeks of my time in Woodlands actually working in
1:46:25
such administration. 100% when you're saying is true, nothing
1:46:29
has happened on the ground that would impact the level of
1:46:33
payments going to people that legitimately are owed those
1:46:35
payments, period. A lot is going to happen to
1:46:38
people that are stealing from the system.
1:46:40
Yeah, they're not getting the payments.
1:46:44
And you know who's screaming? They are because they're
1:46:48
committing fraud. And we should take that away
1:46:51
from them because they're stealing from all of us in this
1:46:53
room and our parents, and they're going to scream loud and
1:46:57
it's going to get louder. But it would but thank you,
1:47:00
thank you for asking that question because it, it, you
1:47:03
know, it, it is something that as obvious to this as it's,
1:47:07
it's, it's a, it's a great question because we just need to
1:47:10
be very crisp and clear. Those will make sure you get
1:47:14
your Social Security. Those will make sure you get
1:47:16
your Medicaid. There will be no cuts to
1:47:18
legitimate payments whatsoever. I'd like to go last, if it's OK
1:47:26
with the other gentlemen. Would you like to go, Sir,
1:47:31
please go. Thank you.
1:47:34
Mr. Musk, thank you so much for coming to Wisconsin.
1:47:38
I just want to thank you for calling out bad ideas on X.
1:47:43
You do that like every 30 minutes.
1:47:45
And if I don't see something, I'm like, wow, you alone, OK.
1:47:52
And we all know that ideas of consequences and bad ideas have
1:47:57
victims. And thank you for speaking up
1:48:00
for victims. And a few nights ago when you
1:48:02
spoke with Bret Baier, when you're being interviewed and he
1:48:07
asks you what keeps you up at night?
1:48:09
And like that other question you answered and you paused and it
1:48:14
was depopulation. And I was waiting for you to say
1:48:19
like, oh, the death threats against my life or the national
1:48:23
debt or the depopulation. Yeah, depopulation is a really
1:48:28
big deal. It's not on people's radar.
1:48:31
Why is that? Well, I think, I think we we
1:48:35
haven't yet evolved to deal with depopulation.
1:48:38
You know, it's, it's, I guess it, it's something we better
1:48:44
evolve to deal with or, or we're going to disappear.
1:48:50
And, and once the depopulation roll starts rolling, you know,
1:48:54
it seems to gather up speed. I mean, you can look at sort of
1:48:57
cases like Korea and Japan, which are, you know, much
1:49:02
further ahead or behind, depending on how you look at it.
1:49:05
But that like the population decline there is much worse.
1:49:08
Japan is an absolute publication population decline, so they're
1:49:11
losing about, I think roughly a million people a year of
1:49:14
population, and that's going to accelerate.
1:49:17
Korea is has only a third replacement rate, which means
1:49:22
that in three generations the country will be 3 or 4% of its
1:49:26
current size. Like basically all that'll be
1:49:29
left is a small portion of the capital city.
1:49:34
So, and I keep waiting for the birth rate to turn around, but
1:49:36
it doesn't, it seems like population collapse accelerates.
1:49:43
And that's why I think it's, it's a very serious matter.
1:49:47
It's if, if, if you believe in humanity at all, you should care
1:49:50
about this a lot. And then you know that that's
1:49:55
sort of, but that, you know, that's the sort of long term
1:49:57
thing. And, and the, the short term
1:49:58
thing is, is remaining is that America needs to be financially
1:50:02
solvent. You know, that's, that's what
1:50:07
doge is about, trying to just make sure America's financially
1:50:10
solvent. And, and then there's also the
1:50:13
risks of AI. So we want to make sure that
1:50:18
that AI is is maximally truth seeking and, you know, ideally
1:50:23
has sort of values that most Americans would agree with that
1:50:28
and that it's a pro human AI that it wants to foster the
1:50:32
future of humanity. Yeah, those those are the things
1:50:39
that I think about. So thanks, Elon.
1:50:46
My name is Matt Hoss. Like Bonanza Big Hoss.
1:50:50
I own and operate a small business here in the Fox Valley,
1:50:54
and tomorrow I actually get the honor and the privilege to host
1:50:57
Brad Schimmel at our shop, Springetty Landscape.
1:50:59
If anyone's in the valley. Sounds good.
1:51:01
Come down 4430 tomorrow we're having a shindig to have Brad
1:51:05
stop by. He's going to come and give a
1:51:06
little speech, get some some. That's what this was about was
1:51:10
Brad's election. So I just wanted to say, in your
1:51:14
opinion, what is Brad going to do for small business owners
1:51:17
like myself? Well, I think he's going to help
1:51:21
get the government of your back. So that's a big deal.
1:51:26
You know, for anyone that starts a business, you know, it's like
1:51:30
you used to just be able to open a store and not get like a
1:51:33
zillion permits and licenses and everything.
1:51:36
You know, that's how America, you wanted to make a product.
1:51:39
You just made the product and you didn't have to satisfy a
1:51:42
massive body of regulations and get a permission from all sorts
1:51:46
of agencies. So hopefully Justice Shimmel is,
1:51:51
you know, support that and and helps get the government off
1:51:53
your back. All right, so let me finish by
1:52:00
saying obviously, yeah, those are the state level will be
1:52:06
cool. But just just remember like
1:52:11
this, the importance of the election on Tuesday is gigantic.
1:52:14
It could it could decide the the future of the House of
1:52:17
Representatives. It could decide then the future
1:52:20
of America and the future of the world.
1:52:22
So it's absolutely critical that you really you need to just drag
1:52:27
friends and family to vote on Tuesday for Justice Schimmel and
1:52:32
for voter ID. So thank you.
1:52:37
Thank you guys. Thank you.
1:52:45
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1:52:51
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