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EDP64: Eoins 3000m & Belfast Classic / AV Lakeside 5k · Easy Double podcast

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  from the track to the. Rodeo we talk that talk splits
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  on the. Watch but we still.
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  Take the Mick Dean in Perth with the long run legs go and break
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  the fire when the session gets thick.
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  Ryan in the mix with the numbers and plans.
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  From every sauce, the medals. Yeah, we.
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  Break it all down. Hard graft Monday, left by the
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  Sunday, still chasing. Hello and welcome back to the
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  Easy Double Podcast. We are episode 64.
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  It's Monday night and I'm joined by the two people who always
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  join me to talk about running on a weekly basis, Dean Menzies and
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  Aaron Smith. How are you doing, Dean?
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  Good mate, going well. You've just come out the gym, is
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  it? I picked up on there because I
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  didn't see you in there. Thank.
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  You. We I don't know how to take
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  that. Were you light or were you DNS?
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  That was the DNS, Yeah. It's no excuses, just
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  acknowledging that it's a tougher sell to my mentality
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  during these darker winter nights to get up there.
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  No, Yeah, it is. Conveniently for me, it wasn't
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  today. I I was not at work today, but
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  normally it's part of my commute home.
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  It's on the way. So it's very easy for me to find
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  the motivation to get there. But I appreciate you are but a
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  stone's throw away from home when you're leaving the office,
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  so a bit more of a difficult proposition.
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  I also need to be careful not to make excuses about not attending
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  because of the planned double trouble that I have for later.
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  So no excuses, just owning the fact that I can't be asked to
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  get there and I need to just get in the routine of using the the
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  gym in the apartment because like then I don't even need to
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  go outside, especially during winter.
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  So that's that's my mentality with it.
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  It's tricky, although my myself, the gym class is that when
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  you're there equality, it's like a group training session.
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  When you're there, the quality of the workouts better.
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  You spend the full 45 minutes doing what you meant to and you
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  get feedback on how best to do it.
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  So ah, yeah, ah, anyway. The pros are there.
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  There is certain upside. Yeah.
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  Anyway, less, less gym talk. Owen, how are you doing?
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  Doing all right, yeah, just tipping away here.
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  Legs pulled up all right from Saturday, so.
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  Yeah, on the back of the season opener.
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  Seasonal player. Yeah, it's such a cool track
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  that I wasn't expecting it. It's sort of like in a hole, but
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  like it's surrounded by like these big trees.
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  And yeah, I know it was really, really cool and like some really
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  good runners who are competing as well.
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  You can go through the whole results in your race and stuff
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  later, but it looked like it was quite windy on the stream now.
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  So it was windy. And there's these pitches like
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  up behind the the trees, the forests and on the football
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  pitches, it was really windy. But then when I got onto the
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  track, it was really weird. Like, I don't remember it being
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  windy, if you get me. So apparently there was ghosts.
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  But I can't use the wind as an excuse or as a reason.
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  That is why I'd run faster like yeah, so.
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  I was going to say I don't want to give give the plot away, but
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  I was going to say you didn't feel the wind because you were
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  tucked in the whole race. But that's actually maybe not
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  the case, is it? No.
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  Well, very lucky to have the guys from Fly Carve actually
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  pacing. So yeah, they brought me around.
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  I think it was a mile. And then, yeah, I sort of am.
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  I took over until the last lap when someone took over from me.
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  What else is going on? We've got an upcoming Easy
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  Double in the community, the first ever official Easy Double
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  run in partnership with the Run Centre, the retail store here in
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  West Perth owned by RAF, our coach, well man and Dean's coach
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  and also on our part of that. So I think the concept is they
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  do a run in the morning at 6:00 AM in Kings Park on the trails
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  and on or bring them down there. I don't know if it's a new range
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  but it's the first I've heard of a trail range.
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  They must be trying to push this trail shoe.
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  On the photo on our post it looks looks pretty nice.
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  To be fair, I'm thinking like that'd do me as a lifestyle
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  casual shoe because I was thinking before, if I ever start
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  deliberately running around in a pair of trail shoes, that's
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  when, that's when it's over for me.
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  When I stopped chasing fast times, the game's gone.
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  But then there is a road shop run in the evening.
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  So 6:00 AM on the trails in the morning and then 5:45 PM on the
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  road in the evening. And if anyone comes down, you'll
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  get the opportunity to try both the trail shoe and some of their
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  fast or stability shoes. So yeah, a week on Wednesday,
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  Wednesday, the 20th of May, and there's something along the
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  lines of someone who turns up to both the morning and the evening
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  run will go in like a draw to win.
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  I think it's a pair of those shoes, but don't quote me.
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  So that's fun. And where do we go with this
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  episode? There's quite a few results.
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  Again, we're going to be spending a lot of time in
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  Ireland with Owens meets because it wasn't just Owen racing there
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  as we had last week. There was all sorts of elite
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  athletes from across Europe, so that must have been pretty cool.
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  Owen, was your head almost on a swivel spot on everyone or did
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  you? Did they always blend in?
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  It was. Sort of annoying because all the
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  races I wanted to see were like either side of my race so I was
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  like either like warming up. So warming up.
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  I think I missed the women's 3K and then cooling debt and I
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  missed the men's international 3K, so the main 3K race and then
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  cooling down, I missed another one.
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  I think I just got the end of the men's 1500 as well.
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  And so, yeah, couldn't really like get settled and enjoy them,
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  but I did get to see some of the boys roll around and pretty
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  fast. Sweet.
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  Well we'll start closer to my location right now in Australia
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  with the XCR round one over in Melbourne.
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  And I'm not sure, we probably won't cover each round of this
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  because some of them are kind of random cross country races, but
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  this one was a fast 5K on the roads.
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  And seeing these results made me very jealous of everyone who got
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  the opportunity to RIP a 5K around Albert Park.
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  And then, yeah, the depth is pretty wild.
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  Like in the men's race on the results, 65 of them went sub 15
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  with seven people sub fourteen in fact, or 6.
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  And for the women that it was replicated as well, I'm not sure
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  what the exact conversion is from a men's time to female
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  time, but 35 women were sub 18 as well.
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  So it shows the depth that's there on both sides for the men,
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  Ed Marks won in 1337, which for a 5K on the road is bloody fast
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  and particularly just like a kind of standard domestic road
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  race. And he he beat Matt Buckle and
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  Andy Buchanan respectively in 2nd and 3rd 13501353.
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  So it's not as if these were just random guys.
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  They're some of the best kind of distance runners in the country.
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  But the fact that they all will just roll out through Albert
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  Park is testament to what's going on in Melbourne, I guess,
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  and then go on. Albert Park can be pretty windy
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  as well now, I'm guessing by the results here, even though it's
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  an out and back. So surely if you're the wind on
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  your back, you've on your face on one way.
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  So yeah, I think even last year I remember seeing like super
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  fast times in this race. So yeah, it's the crazy.
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  Standard, I remember us recapping it last year and
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  weren't when they may be just under 14 minutes, I think I
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  thought whereas like 13 1/2 minutes, like that's a bit of a
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  stand out, I think, not to mention the depth I think, Oh,
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  and when we remember we were talking about armor when where
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  you placed dinner. Like, I wouldn't have thought
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  that a Aussie race would have that degree of depth to it, but
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  it's pretty impressive. Yeah, and that's it.
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  Would that be Andy's first race in a while?
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  Andy Buchanan that is the Australian marathon record
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  holder there finishing third, coming in sub 14.
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  I guess hard to be disappointed with that.
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  Yeah, didn't I see on his, was it his Instagram or was there a
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  YouTube video that maybe came off the back of him race racing
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  again? Yeah, seen that in his caption
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  and watched it, but yeah, interested to see what he's been
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  up to because I tried to stroll scroll for his Strava before.
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  Doesn't actually look like he's been doing any crazy like
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  quality stuff, just getting the volume back.
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  And then to me, obviously just run sub 14 off putting together
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  a little bit of mileage is, yeah, makes me feel a bit sick
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  to be fair. That's the thing that I think is
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  most impressive. Like he's got injured, tried to
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  get back quickly, reinjured again.
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  So he hasn't had like a decent block in a while, like apart
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  from what he's done in most recent weeks.
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  So for him to be able to like bang out 1353, yeah, it's it is
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  ridiculous. No doubt he still won't be too
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  happy getting beaten by like is that Matt Buckle is like his
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  teammate or training partner at least.
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  So bragging rights. He's lost the bragging rights
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  there, I'm sure. All in good spirit though.
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  But for Ed Marks to put 13 seconds into them, like, that's
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  massive as well. Like that's so impressive.
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  Looks like a fun race. Yeah.
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  Was looking at Ed Marks his profile because the obviously
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  the Commonwealth Games is upcoming and there's a 10,000
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  meters there. And what stands out on his
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  results is he went and ran that 10,000 meters over in California
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  in March and ran 2754. So I wonder if that's going to
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  be enough for him to get a 10,000 meter spot over there.
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  And is this like a bit of a reminder?
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  Like, hey, I'm still fit. And he goes and takes Andy's
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  scalp. It's not going to do him any
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  harm. The women, the girl who seems to
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  be cleaning up everything at the minute.
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  Donvay Vilhoyne or however you may say that surname.
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  I apologize. Donvay 1607.
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  So pretty quick again from Stella Radford, 1616 and
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  Catherine Dowie 1619. It's so funny, right?
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  Was talking about a fast 5K on the road now because it was only
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  like, was it last week's episode or the one before where we're
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  saying like, wouldn't you just love the opportunity to get in a
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  rapid 5K on the road? And then up pops bloody Albert
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  Park 5K to remind us how good they've got it over there.
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  Because you would never consider travelling to to do that race
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  with it just being one of the XCR ones.
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  But if you're after a 5 KPB, what?
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  Why wouldn't you when you travel like overseas for half marathons
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  and whatever? Do you know if it like it's like
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  World Athletic certified like without even count towards
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  anything? I was thinking the same thing.
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  I don't know. I remember the other the half
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  marathon that's part of the XCR not being certified as well, for
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  what it's worth, but I don't know.
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  Yeah, you hope it is. I mean the you'll know if it
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  pops up on people, on the People 's World Athletics profiles, I
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  think. I guess also that signifies the
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  start of cross country season down under.
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  I know WI Athletics, they're starting to schedule the local
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  cross country races here as well.
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  So bit of change to the start of what's happening over in
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  Ireland, Evan. Will that be on your radar, Ryan
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  that WA cross country? Raph asked me this the other
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  day. Actually it's on.
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  It depends maybe with if we get that Gold Coast entry because
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  it's the weekend before the state cross country long.
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  I think it's 10K, so maybe wouldn't be advisable to do a
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  10K cross country race into a half marathon the next weekend.
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  So yeah, we'll have to see. I would like to if it's if it's
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  doable, but the nationals is over in Ballarat, so I'm not
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  sure I'd fancy going to Ballarat innovative commerce just for
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  cross country, so. That was going to be my next
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  question. Like if you qualified, would you
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  go? And like, are you, do you think
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  this half marathon is coming very soon or do you think like
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  you're just eager to do it? Bit of both.
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  Yeah. It probably, I don't know, it's
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  a long time in terms of maybe the trajectory that I'm on now,
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  like each week is probably different to the last, but it's
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  also probably a little bit too soon to try and seriously think
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  about running the PB. But if I can be just fit and
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  have fun then I'd be keen to race it either way.
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  When is Goldie? July 1st week of July weekend,
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  yeah. First weekend of July.
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  Oh, so you've you've loads of time is it that the 5th, the 4th
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  and 5th of July Yeah, So what we think 123456 set lad, you've got
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  book at a time, you'll be a different person but.
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  Then need to get the entry first to think this time next week
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  maybe find out. What you mean?
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  Have you contacted them directly or?
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  It's one of those like nomination things, you know,
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  through the state have X amount of spots.
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  So then I think to get 6 or something, maybe is.
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  This the national half. Yes.
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  It's like not yeah, yeah, yeah. OK, I was actually trying to
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  nominate yet but I had to make an account and I didn't bother,
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  sorry. Nah, I think you can only
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  nominate yourself weirdly. OK, OK, OK.
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  That would be fun if you could go on and like upvote me,
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  downvote me. Like Nah he's not, fist fuck him
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  off. But you have to pay your own
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  way, dear. You get the entry, but you have
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  to pay your own way, yeah. OK, at least you get something
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  like and you might get AWA singlet.
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  Yeah. Invaluable.
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  Priceless. Yeah, so that takes us to
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  Belfast City then. Owen, do you want to whip
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  through the other results and then maybe do your recap or
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  whichever way around you fancy it?
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  Yeah, I'll do the others first. So all the 8 hundreds were on at
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  the very end. So I didn't bother staying
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  around for any of these. But in the women's eight
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  hundreds, the main race, Sarah Calvert from Edinburgh Uni, she
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  ran two O 190 with Hannah Cameron from Scotland, two O 344
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  and then Kahisa Malanga from Great Britain, she ran a two O
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  584 for 3rd in the women's 1500, Melissa Courtney Bryant from the
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  UK and she ran a four O 450 which was a meet record.
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  And Ava Lloyd, who's part of that M11 track club with Keely,
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  she ran a 4/07/04. And Molly Hutchinson from Great
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  Britain, she ran 407.27, so pretty tight there.
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  And this one, I actually watched this one and Melissa Courtney
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  Bryant, she went out with the pacer and the rest sort of hung
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  back. So she she did a good like 20-30
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  meters on the other girls. So she went out hard and she
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  hung on and like 404 for the first one season like in
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  Belfast. Like you can't complain with
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  that either. Like that's a good result.
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  She's like Olympic representative, if not world
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  championship, so she's probably like star on paper.
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  Yeah, and they had a few big names.
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  All film didn't show up. Like Isaac Camelli was meant to
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  run the 1500 and he just like they were like on the announcer.
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  They're like, oh, and Isaac Camelli is in here on the start
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  list, but like, he wasn't on the track.
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  So yeah, a few of them didn't show up, but it's still good to
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  see like some really, really good runners.
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  You know when we, when you read the fields out last week and you
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  mentioned Matt Ramsdon and you said the UK one, not the
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  Australian one. When I was watching the stream,
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  they were reading out the start list and the commentators said
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  Matt Ramsdon. And then he got, he was like,
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  oh, why is it that like there's an Australian Matt Ramsden here,
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  like that's that's mad. And then the other guy corrected
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  them. He was like, no, no, it's
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  literally a different fella. And Australian Matters had to
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  clarify he's not him so. They tagged Australian Matt in
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  the post I think, yeah. And the women's 3K.
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  So I didn't really get to watch this one but I'm apparently they
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  went out really slow so they didn't go with the pacer.
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  So the pacer pulled back which is why the times aren't too
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  crazy. Cameron Kernjewel from Sweden
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  she ran 85698 at Lisa rooms from Belgium she ran 85899 and then
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  Elisa Vendrest from Belgium she ran 859.94.
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  So these are the big kicked in. I think they could have went
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  through the 1st K in like a three O 6.
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  So they made-up a lot of ground on the last lap.
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  And a note we mentioned here is Philly bowed and she this could
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  be a double trouble. Now I do love Philly, I love our
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  content, but she she flew over the morning of the race.
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  So her race was at like 1210 past 12.
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  So she got, she was about 5:00 to get a flight to Belfast and
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  apparently she slept in or something.
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  So she was rushing and then she dropped out with like 2 laps to
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  go. So yeah, I'm not like obviously
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  she's a marathoner. So this is like totally alien
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  like this sort of speed, like doing dropping down to a 3K is
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  like a bit extreme, but. Yeah, I don't know how.
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  Like I don't just feel mentally it's not good to drop out of
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  like a 3K of all things, like with two laps to go.
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  Like she didn't say she was injured or anything, but.
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  Do you know where she was in the race when she'd done it?
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  As in like through the field? She was a good.
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  Bit back, she wasn't having a good time.
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  She wasn't loving the grind, put it that way.
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  I'm annoyed I haven't watched her because she's done a little
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  video or Instagram story to explain what's went on.
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  Should have watched it because I was going to talk about DNF and
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  and stuff as a double trouble but I can't really come for her
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  if I don't know the reason. She didn't have, she's like, oh,
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  I'm not here to make excuses. Like it's not really good
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  enough. Like she said, she slept in in
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  the morning and it was a little bit windy.
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  She came up with a couple but like she's fit and healthy,
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  that's the main thing. Like the men's 800.
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  So the winner was Henry Jonas from Lochborough and he ran
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  14576. Second was Jackie Jack Higgins
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  from Tunbridge AC who ran a 14587 and 3rd was Callum Dodds
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  from Great Britain who ran 14636.
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  So again, not too shabby at 1:45 for like your first race of the
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  season and the men's international 1500.
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  So this is good on this one was pretty stacked.
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  So Ben Patterson took the win from Great Britain.
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  He ran at 33796. Second was Archie Davis from
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  Brighton, he ran at 33957 and 3rd was Ted Higgins.
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  Jack Higgins, the Laden came second in the 800.
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  His twin brother, he ran at 33973.
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  And just shout out Philip Marin from Dub City 8 Harriers, he ran
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  at 34257 for his season opener. And then friend of the show
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  Callum Elson, he ran at 34462. So I think the pacer went out a
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  little bit off pace. I think they could have been a
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  second or two off in the first lap.
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  They're hoping for 58 and I think they went out in a 60.
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  And Ben Patterson just timed this to perfection.
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  He just sat in the pack and Callum Ellison sorted on the
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  opposite. He was like right behind the
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  Pacers, pushing it the whole time, so he felt it in the last
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  lap. He just dropped like a stone.
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  And Ben? Patterson stay though, is it?
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  No, no, Ben Patterson just timed it to perfection 200 to go.
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  Like he's just so powerful and strong and I think this could be
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  his distance, the 1500, he's got such a kick.
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  So I think this is his first like big 1500 he's ever done
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  until I just knockout A337. And yeah, it's it's pretty good
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  going. Must just feel so good knowing
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  that you've kind of you've went up a distance and all you have
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  to do is let someone else try and make it fast and as long as
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  you can just be there, you're going to beat them all because
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  you're faster than them. Genuinely, yeah, just out kicked
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  them all such a like oh, doesn't matter how this is going to go
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  once I can hang I can just kicked on demands international
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  3K. So this is like the main three.
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  Ki was in the second tier race so Henry Mclucky from Great
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  Britain, he won it in 74364 in a meet record.
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  And second was Callum Morgan from Kander Track Club from
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  Ireland they were he ran A74762 and then third was Jack O'Leary
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  from Ireland. He ran A74850 and this was yeah
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  pretty stacked again. So Henry make, luckily he took
• 24:10
  it up with like 800 to go and just wound it up.
• 24:13
  And Jack O'Leary was in second at this time and just couldn't
• 24:18
  go with him. And then Jack O'Leary sort of
• 24:20
  got pips coming down the home straight by Callum Morgan.
• 24:25
  So yeah, all first races of the season for these guys.
• 24:29
  And Henry Mclucky actually broke the meet record.
• 24:32
  It was set by some name I recognized.
• 24:38
  Let me just see if I can find it.
• 24:43
  Bought. Yeah, like a 743.
• 24:46
  It is ridiculously fast. And to think Jaco Brown is 717
• 24:52
  is it's just mind boggling. No, I find so impressive, like
• 24:58
  especially now that I'm starting to train again and thinking
• 25:01
  about my own fitness, is how these lads and girls keep up
• 25:06
  such high cadence under fatigue. So like when they start to kick,
• 25:11
  the cadence is actually increasing, whereas anyone else,
• 25:16
  or maybe just me, the cadence is like one of the first things to
• 25:20
  go, isn't it? And you stride lamp shortens.
• 25:22
  But for the pros, the opposite happens.
• 25:25
  They open up and they the cadence takes over and they just
• 25:28
  get faster and faster. But they just look so smooth
• 25:33
  doing it. That's the thing I can't get
• 25:34
  over. Like they're so relaxed.
• 25:36
  I think we'll Steve Ovett. Shit, yeah, that would have been
• 25:40
  a long standing record. Done. 39 years.
• 25:44
  Well. And so I feel like Henry Lucky,
• 25:48
  he's very under the radar and he was wearing an Adidas Pro kit.
• 25:54
  So I did ask. I think he.
• 25:56
  He's war Adidas for a while. I think he must.
• 25:59
  They must have picked him up a couple of years ago.
• 26:02
  OK, OK. I think for some reason I always
• 26:04
  thought he was hooker, but yeah, anyway, could be a big year for
• 26:09
  Henry. I don't know.
• 26:11
  Yeah, sure. He's ran like. 30 and lower
• 26:13
  something as well over 5 case. Calm games of it only shows the
• 26:18
  5K13 O1, don't know if that and if that 743 translated to a low
• 26:26
  13 I'm not too sure. But anyway, piece fit.
• 26:34
  Now we're on the main events anyway, the 3000 meter A race.
• 26:38
  Yeah, the 2nd Tier 1. So when I rocked up, I seen the
• 26:43
  two boys from Fly Carve and I was like, because I didn't know
• 26:46
  what paces they were going and because it was the second tier,
• 26:49
  I was like, I wasn't sure what way this is going to be run.
• 26:51
  And they were like, Oh yeah, 60 sevens.
• 26:55
  And I was like, look, that's probably good.
• 26:58
  Like my goal was 60 sixes. But it's better to like start
• 27:02
  conservative and then just like feel strong because you can
• 27:04
  always feel like you're always better picking up the pace in
• 27:07
  the last lap rather than dying at death, so.
• 27:10
  Just pace. They pace the race prior as
• 27:12
  well. Yeah, the two races prior.
• 27:15
  Wow shit it went international 3 by a mile.
• 27:19
  It went like international B race and then the A race, yeah.
• 27:25
  How far did they pace the first two races?
• 27:27
  Like the first mile or? Jack definitely done a mile in
• 27:32
  all of them. Maybe they went longer in the B1
• 27:35
  because it was just that little bit slower.
• 27:37
  Gee, we say, he must have been what?
• 27:39
  What's he going through up a mile in the international race?
• 27:42
  Like 410. OK, I'm not.
• 27:46
  I didn't say. I'm not sure.
• 27:47
  But it would have been, wouldn't?
• 27:49
  Yeah, yeah. Maybe a kilometer, a mile.
• 27:52
  I don't really, I can't remember.
• 27:54
  He was he was checking his watch at like random points round as
• 27:57
  well. Like not even the 200 or the 400
• 28:00
  split. He must have actually been
• 28:01
  looking at his pace or. The hamstring.
• 28:08
  Go on. Sorry.
• 28:09
  Erin So yeah, it's at 67. And I was like, that's alright,
• 28:13
  I'm going went off. And I think I found myself like
• 28:17
  4th and in on the rail and I was just conscious that they were
• 28:22
  actually going that pace because they didn't want them really
• 28:24
  dropping off. And that's, that's, that's just
• 28:28
  over 825. Say yes, 77.
• 28:33
  Is it 7-7 to 40, 49? So nineteen 24822 pace, is that
• 28:40
  right? Yeah, yeah.
• 28:41
  Around that, it was just over eight 20s.
• 28:43
  Yeah. So I like, and I wanted to be
• 28:47
  between 8:20 and like 8:15. That would have been like a good
• 28:50
  day for me. And so yeah, went off and then I
• 28:54
  think it was 2 laps in, I sort of noticed a gap between him,
• 28:59
  the pacer and the the lad who was leading it out.
• 29:03
  So I was just conscious that because the pacer could easily
• 29:07
  just drop back. So I just sort of made a move
• 29:09
  and just tucked in behind Jack. And then I sort of just kept
• 29:11
  pushing him a little bit. Well, not pushing him
• 29:13
  physically, but just like kept on his heels to know someone was
• 29:17
  there following him. And I think we started off 60
• 29:20
  sevens, 60 sixes and then my last I hit 260 fives and then it
• 29:25
  finished off with a 64. So basically I kept on pushing
• 29:28
  it. Jack dropped out where after a
• 29:30
  mile and then it was me for. You almost dropped him.
• 29:34
  I was the Cam Myers. Like shoving him off the track.
• 29:38
  Out the way mate, you gone? I felt good.
• 29:40
  I did feel very good. I felt relaxed going through the
• 29:44
  1st K mile and yeah, I wasn't expecting to feel that good.
• 29:49
  It was a bit weird because like in the Tuesday before I was
• 29:52
  doing 3 by AK and I was hitting them 240 fives, but I was like,
• 29:59
  how am I going to hit like stick these back-to-back?
• 30:02
  And so it's crazy. What like when you're actually
• 30:04
  like freshen up, you sort of forget.
• 30:05
  I don't know what it feels like to be fresh when you're freshen
• 30:09
  up in the race situation when you're nomi owed, you're
• 30:11
  bicarbed, beetrooted, caffeine gel, all that sort of stuff.
• 30:17
  That's another thing. So I had an hour and a half
• 30:19
  drive and the race was at an awkward time.
• 30:22
  So it was at 25 past 1. So I was trying to like delay my
• 30:28
  breakfast. So that was like my big meal
• 30:31
  before. But then I normally eat my
• 30:33
  breakfast at like 8:00. So I had to sort of push it back
• 30:35
  to like half nine, 10:00 and but it worked out well.
• 30:39
  Then in the car, I took the beetroot shot, Namio shot 3
• 30:44
  hours out, drove on another little bit, pulled into this
• 30:48
  farmer's gateway just outside Belfast.
• 30:52
  And I'm starting mixing my bicarb and he comes out and he's
• 30:55
  like, he's like, what is this idea?
• 30:57
  And I was like, oh, I'm just doing this because he wouldn't
• 31:01
  have understood what I was saying.
• 31:02
  I was like, I'm just, I've a race in there.
• 31:04
  I just need to eat this. I start laughing at me.
• 31:06
  And he's like, yeah, right. I just went off this day.
• 31:09
  And so I was two hours out, took the bicarb and then yeah, 20
• 31:14
  minutes before the race I took him Bix and 40 gram carb and
• 31:21
  caffeine gel. So the mix, the caffeine on the
• 31:24
  carb and I feel like that just keeps me like I am sort of
• 31:28
  getting a bit hungry closer to the race.
• 31:31
  Did you say 40 or 20 minutes out?
• 31:33
  20. Yeah, it's pretty close.
• 31:36
  Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, that's the way.
• 31:38
  Because I feel like it takes 15 minutes to kick in or something.
• 31:42
  I think that's right. Yeah, I don't know.
• 31:45
  And. What was the warm up protocol?
• 31:48
  Yeah, So the warm up was 15 minute jog and then I don't 2
• 31:53
  minute threshold, one minute flow, 2 minute threshold, one
• 31:57
  minute flow, one minute threshold.
• 32:00
  And then I just don't like 3 sort of hard enough strides
• 32:03
  because like it's only a three Ki feel like you can sort of
• 32:07
  like sort of get a sweat on basically just to get your like
• 32:12
  body produced in a bit of lactate and sort of get a second
• 32:14
  win for the start of the race. And yeah, anyway, the race
• 32:17
  happened. Umm, uh, pacer dropped out.
• 32:20
  I sort of took it on. I think we're knocking 60 fives
• 32:23
  and then coming down dub with one lap to go.
• 32:25
  Your man. And he sort of took me and yeah,
• 32:29
  I just my legs just genuine couldn't go that fast.
• 32:32
  I actually just couldn't, umm, hang on to him.
• 32:35
  So he opened up a bit of a gap. He ended up running 815.96, I
• 32:41
  ended up running 816.93. And then third was German
• 32:45
  Maloney who ran at 820.61. So yeah, look, I can't really
• 32:50
  complain. Like I've done 2 speed sessions
• 32:53
  and to be able to like sort of knockout them 60 sixes, it's
• 32:58
  it's, it's a good sort of good place to be in.
• 33:00
  And this time now hopefully like next year, I'll be in the
• 33:05
  international race, even though like my coach rung me after and
• 33:10
  he was saying that the A race was probably a better race for
• 33:13
  me to be in the international race.
• 33:15
  It's sort of split up into three groups.
• 33:17
  So you had the good guys rolling like going for that like 740.
• 33:21
  Then you had another group hitting that low 8 minutes and
• 33:26
  then you had another group around like between that 8:15
• 33:29
  and 8:20. And I feel like I would have
• 33:31
  been stuck in no man's land between like that second group
• 33:35
  and third group. And like you might hang on to
• 33:38
  that second group or you might just die a death.
• 33:40
  So for like a season opener, like not knowing where I'm
• 33:45
  really at, I feel like the A race was like probably the best
• 33:50
  case scenario and the 40 the best results scenario as well.
• 33:54
  I think without the paces it's like doesn't bode as well, but
• 33:58
  like how how lucky to have the fly Club guys there.
• 34:03
  Exactly, exactly. And it does make such a
• 34:05
  difference just being able to talk in behind them, sort of
• 34:08
  shut off and just go with the flow.
• 34:12
  And you said 815 to 820 was like a good result.
• 34:16
  And obviously you've come in right in the middle of that.
• 34:19
  But you did run the front of the race for probably the hardest K
• 34:23
  of the race. So you've you've got taken
• 34:26
  through a mile, which yeah, fair enough.
• 34:28
  But then from 1600 to 2600, you're the one who's then picked
• 34:34
  it up running 6665 for that duration.
• 34:37
  So I think you run a really good race.
• 34:40
  It was, it was exciting to see you on the front when he went
• 34:43
  past you at 400. Becky was like, we're watching
• 34:45
  it together and she was like, no, don't let him.
• 34:48
  And I was like, no, this is good.
• 34:50
  He's he's gone. He's gone like early enough for
• 34:52
  Owen to get on the back of him. I was like, go on now and get on
• 34:55
  him. And it's so annoying.
• 34:56
  Then, like after the race, like, I watched the back twice and I'm
• 34:59
  like, like, why didn't I go with him?
• 35:01
  Like, like, I should have just, like, given a little bit more.
• 35:05
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 35:06
  And like, you don't after the race, you don't really, like,
• 35:09
  know the hurt you were in. But look, yeah, first race this
• 35:13
  season. I can work on my speed, I don't
• 35:17
  know if I'll get another 3K in before the end of a few 5 KS now
• 35:22
  but like this just makes me super excited for the 5K in
• 35:26
  Belgium in two weeks time. I just need to stay injury free.
• 35:30
  That is the name of the game now.
• 35:32
  Just keep on just tipping along and you look.
• 35:38
  Pretty fit as well. You look pretty lean.
• 35:41
  Oh no, I need it. I need to get down a little bit
• 35:44
  more to like a race weight. I'd say I was carrying a little
• 35:47
  bit of unnecessary weight, but that can drop off in in July.
• 35:57
  Oh, I thought to ask you, how do you rate your own PBS now?
• 36:02
  Which is your strongest of most favorite you think?
• 36:07
  I wish the 1409 was recognized. I think this 816 leaves me in
• 36:15
  that ballpark of like a 1410 to a 1420.
• 36:21
  It leaves me in there. I should be able to because like
• 36:23
  when you think about it like I was running 245 a kilometer when
• 36:27
  you I've 5 seconds, I can take 5 seconds off that to run my 5K
• 36:36
  pace, which is going to leave two 50s is like a 1410 if you
• 36:39
  get me. So, but you obviously have
• 36:41
  another 2K to run. But I did feel very good for the
• 36:45
  first like 2K. I'm switching it to tag on
• 36:49
  another 3. Yeah.
• 36:52
  What would you say is typical if if you were to add maybe only
• 36:56
  two or three seconds AK on? I reckon maybe it's a bridge
• 36:59
  from three to 5K. Yeah, I don't want to get ahead
• 37:02
  of myself. Look, I just need a good one on
• 37:06
  the board and like even I'd be happy with like a 1420 to be
• 37:11
  honest, just to have one on the World Athletics that it gets me
• 37:14
  into other races. Just super annoying that the
• 37:16
  1409 isn't. But regarding the PB, I'd know.
• 37:19
  I still think that legal ones. I think the 2944 is still higher
• 37:24
  points on World Athletics. The 10K.
• 37:29
  I'd love to give a half a batch bash at the end of the year to
• 37:33
  see what I could roll on that portion.
• 37:37
  Yeah, I just need to take off the 5K.
• 37:40
  Hagan. Well, yeah, we'll see what
• 37:42
  happens. I don't know.
• 37:45
  I think the 5K takes priority over the half.
• 37:48
  Like I've won goal in the 5K this year.
• 37:52
  And so yeah, that's just, I'm not going to fix it on the time,
• 37:58
  obviously, but just get a good one under my belt and then cross
• 38:01
  country will happen. And that's sort of just the real
• 38:04
  fun. So what's what's the score with
• 38:08
  Belgium then? How are you?
• 38:09
  Are you flying there? Yeah, so I've got another this
• 38:12
  week of training and then next the week after that, I fly on
• 38:17
  the Thursday. So I work Thursday, I'm flying
• 38:20
  Thursday evening, get there on Friday.
• 38:23
  So I get there Thursday evening, Friday, just chill.
• 38:27
  And then it's a really weird event.
• 38:29
  So it's in like this big stadium.
• 38:32
  So apparently wind isn't a factor and it's just trying to
• 38:36
  get in the race. So as soon as like that result
• 38:39
  got my result here got posted on World Athletics.
• 38:42
  I am was straight onto the me organizers saying, Oh, I've just
• 38:46
  ran eight 5th 816. Can you please use this result
• 38:49
  to grade me into like a 5K? Because at the moment they're
• 38:54
  using a 1430 and I feel like that if if 816 and 1430 you're
• 38:59
  in two different races and I'm with the Belgium meet, there's
• 39:03
  like there's going to be loads of races.
• 39:04
  So apparently like you could be racing at like half 12 at night.
• 39:11
  So ideally you want to be in the main program, which I think you
• 39:15
  have to run sub 14 for which I'm not going to be in or one of the
• 39:20
  earlier after program ones because you don't want to be
• 39:25
  racing at like 11:00, which is a possible, there is a possibility
• 39:28
  I could be end up racing at 11:00, which is just I feel like
• 39:31
  it's totally alien because I'm normally like fast asleep by
• 39:35
  then. So that's the only drawback.
• 39:38
  But that will be on Saturday the 23rd and then Sunday I've I fly
• 39:45
  out, I fly back home on like Sunday evening.
• 39:50
  So like that's the plan. So get a few more little speed
• 39:53
  sessions in try and make 5K pace for your comfy.
• 39:57
  And then yeah, again, just give it a whack.
• 39:59
  Nothing to lose. You reckon the taper done your
• 40:02
  wonders from the 160 K week you carry on.
• 40:07
  Yeah, I might. One of the lads in the club,
• 40:11
  Reggie, he was saying that. Reggie.
• 40:16
  You always seem something always seems to happen to you before a
• 40:20
  race, sort of makes you freshen up.
• 40:23
  So before Valencia I rolled my ankle and I was, I was fucked.
• 40:27
  I was struggling for like a day or two.
• 40:29
  So I didn't run. So that freshened me up.
• 40:31
  Armah. I think I got something happened
• 40:35
  before Armah as well. And yeah, I got sick.
• 40:39
  And then this one here I just well, by Coke prevented me from
• 40:44
  cooking myself. So it's like I push seal it too
• 40:49
  high and then I pull it back just in time.
• 40:53
  So yeah, I don't think I'll be doing any crazy mileage or
• 40:57
  anything. Now leading up to that.
• 40:58
  I think this week was I think I've had two weeks of one, one
• 41:02
  111 kilometers. And so the same again would be
• 41:09
  would be probably, probably what I'll go for.
• 41:11
  And then, yeah, just pull it back a little bit.
• 41:13
  Race week. Just sharpening the tools now.
• 41:17
  Yeah, yeah. Super exciting.
• 41:20
  Cool, wonder if the Belgium one will be streamed.
• 41:26
  Maybe Knox? Is that much shit going on?
• 41:28
  Yeah, I don't know, because, yeah, because again, there's so
• 41:31
  many races, but the stream for Belfast is pretty cool.
• 41:34
  They did. I've liked the drone shot when
• 41:36
  they'd like swoop in and so they look at the back of the pack.
• 41:39
  It was cool. Yeah, the I was waiting for the
• 41:42
  commentators to, like, give you some acknowledgement because
• 41:45
  you'd been on the front for like a lap or something, and they
• 41:47
  were just doing small talk, you know, about the meats or about
• 41:52
  something irrelevant. And then they finally, like
• 41:55
  mentioned Owen Smith. Yeah, well, hopefully next year
• 42:00
  aim is to be in the international race.
• 42:03
  Let's go a couple more results to round off.
• 42:08
  There was a Meath in International Pegaso sitter
• 42:11
  different say in Italy and I only mention it because Nadia
• 42:15
  Bataclasi again cutting down the distance run to 1500 meters in
• 42:20
  403.75 S Yeah, she can do it all seconds not bad USA had.
• 42:36
  So that's almost like 3 weeks in a row or at least three of the
• 42:39
  past four weeks. They had their Rd. mile
• 42:41
  championship and the road 5K championship and now God knows
• 42:46
  why they run this distance. So I was trying to think like is
• 42:48
  there a mile conversion? But it wouldn't mean anything.
• 42:52
  The USA Road 25 K championships happened and the reason why I
• 42:58
  include it is because so a guy, Andrew Collie born in 114 flat
• 43:04
  2nd place is listed as anonymous participants.
• 43:09
  I was meant to go and find out who anonymous participant is
• 43:12
  because he's beaten Casey Clinger in 3rd so it must be
• 43:17
  someone who's seriously good. It's like when you rock up to
• 43:21
  park run but forget your barcode.
• 43:24
  Or don't run a time you're overly hit.
• 43:27
  Please but see. Don't scan it.
• 43:30
  It says here on Google anonymous participant often cited as Batty
• 43:36
  Tiscay. So maybe he wasn't American so
• 43:39
  they just that. Would make sense.
• 43:43
  Often cited. Yeah.
• 43:45
  Sometimes. Referred to Notorious for
• 43:49
  rocking up to USA track and field champs and broad champs
• 43:54
  and running him. Without his barcode.
• 43:57
  Thoughts on this as an event? Don't get it?
• 44:01
  It's. A bit relevant.
• 44:03
  Yeah, it'd be a strange race to run as well.
• 44:09
  Like I mean, what did they run about?
• 44:11
  Around 62 minute half marathon pace.
• 44:16
  So you're a sub three minute case.
• 44:19
  Yeah. So I think 1:15 is, is that 15
• 44:23
  minutes times 5? Yeah.
• 44:27
  I got it. What's it used for?
• 44:29
  Even to walk around saying you're the national champion in
• 44:33
  the 25 K, what does it mean? We have the per 32K, which is a
• 44:38
  bit of a unique thing, but it's the old school like 20 Miller
• 44:42
  race and it's normally run in the lead up to what used to be
• 44:46
  at a point in your training that would sit well for the marathon.
• 44:52
  So it's like a a race that people might do as a lead up
• 44:55
  event to the marathon. But yeah, National 25K champs is
• 45:00
  a bit strange. That the path 1 is that go along
• 45:04
  the river but towards mainland so And do they do like quite a
• 45:07
  few loops over the bridge and back or something?
• 45:10
  Yeah yeah 33 out and backed loops from the Burstwood Club
• 45:16
  Club rooms 5. KF 5K back thereabouts 3. 3
• 45:20
  have. You done that.
• 45:22
  I've done it, I tried doing lactate testing each lap as well
• 45:25
  and I just butchered it. I think one of them it didn't
• 45:28
  work and then I was waiting too long and I just made a balls of
• 45:31
  it. But yeah, I have.
• 45:35
  Yeah, 32 K That would sit nicely as a nice specific long run in a
• 45:38
  marathon. Back end of a marathon prep
• 45:40
  wouldn't. It and it's in May, it's this
• 45:42
  time of year, which as you probably are realizing like well
• 45:46
  and probably already know, but like it's such a nice time of
• 45:48
  year to be running in Perth. The ladder came second.
• 45:52
  His name is MO Batty and he's I think he's run like AD three
• 45:57
  level in college. Him there's a good forum on
• 46:01
  let's run that's just going off. But yeah, I think he's the like.
• 46:11
  I wonder is Casey Clinger like feel like he should be winning
• 46:14
  that. So he must be in heavy marathon
• 46:16
  trainer. He must have won coming up.
• 46:19
  Maybe not. I mean, you would think he would
• 46:22
  win it, wouldn't you? I don't know who the other guys
• 46:25
  are, in fairness. Sam Chalanga is a pretty top
• 46:29
  NCAA runner. May they're not.
• 46:34
  No slouches holding 3 minute. You know this is 206205 marathon
• 46:39
  pace anyway. The women was won by a familiar
• 46:43
  name, Emma Grace Hurley 12251, Cassandra Parker 2nd and Biru
• 46:50
  Teyat de Geffe, 3rd. I thought we had one more set of
• 46:56
  results, but that might just be us.
• 46:58
  I meant to say in reference to the, the Albert Park, the
• 47:02
  Lakeside 5K rather there's, there's 25 KS on the road in the
• 47:08
  UK which people would go to from by me, Chrysleton, which was
• 47:12
  like last week or something. And I just pulled the results up
• 47:16
  for comparison in terms of depth.
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  And there was like, what is it three people sub 15 in
• 47:26
  comparison to that lakeside one. And this is like a very, very
• 47:29
  popular race where people go to run fast.
• 47:32
  And then the other one is mid Cheshire and OK, granted that
• 47:37
  one is a little bit deeper. There's well, on this particular
• 47:41
  instance, 27 people sub 15, but still the winner was Adam Craig.
• 47:47
  Do you remember that name? 14 O 9.
• 47:50
  So doesn't doesn't quite stack off.
• 47:53
  It just shows like the talent in Melbourne and the amount of
• 47:56
  clubs that there are. It's a great place to run.
• 48:02
  Not a great place to go to the beach though, right We're oh.
• 48:07
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• 48:21
  Tried. I tried the new I got some sense
• 48:25
  some of the new strawberry one the strawberry gel.
• 48:28
  The salted strawberry. Yeah, that's a good one.
• 48:32
  That's the the pick I reckon. Hey.
• 48:37
  I haven't tried the Apple 1 yet so that's going to be my long
• 48:40
  run this week. I went for it.
• 48:42
  I went for the strawberry one this week and yeah.
• 48:48
  It's a little treat, yeah. There's no trouble like you
• 48:52
  almost want to just I think I'm due, you know, I packed a couple
• 48:58
  in the back of my on a ride on a Saturday.
• 49:02
  And yeah, I'm always trying to work out when it's the
• 49:05
  appropriate time to treat yourself.
• 49:07
  That's. Good.
• 49:11
  It goes down like an actual dessert.
• 49:16
  I I actually to be fair, given that they're all sat there in
• 49:20
  the cupboard, I admittedly haven't been using them as much
• 49:24
  as I should. Have.
• 49:27
  Why? They're.
• 49:28
  Like. It's.
• 49:30
  Disgraceful on some multiple. Box.
• 49:35
  I mean, the fact that you've admitted it, kudos to you for
• 49:40
  for, you know, passing the comment.
• 49:42
  But like, do you want to say Owen or?
• 49:46
  Ryan, do you met the people that would die to be in this
• 49:49
  position? Yeah.
• 49:50
  And. I can understand before, like
• 49:53
  people like there's a financial element to their nutrition and
• 49:59
  you know, like it, it does add up.
• 50:01
  And so sometimes it's like difficult parting ways for the
• 50:04
  few bucks per gel. But you know that it's so
• 50:07
  important to be taking it. We all know that it's so
• 50:10
  important to be taking it for injury prevention, general
• 50:13
  health, all those sorts of things.
• 50:17
  I have been taking the drink mix but yeah the gels I need to get
• 50:22
  better with. I mean the drinks mix is that's
• 50:24
  not a bad supply. It's a done the same thing,
• 50:27
  isn't it? So like in your sessions, do you
• 50:31
  take any like carbon at all? I put the one scoop of the drink
• 50:38
  mix in the bottle. So what's that?
• 50:39
  25 grams? And then I'll just sip on that
• 50:42
  before the workout, after the warm up and in between the reps.
• 50:46
  But to be fair, even when you're doing that, you probably only
• 50:49
  drink like half the bottle in the duration, don't you?
• 50:52
  So it's not much at all. Because I've started like even
• 50:57
  if I'm just one session in the day, I don't just take a gel
• 50:59
  halfway through the session just like top up and just prevents
• 51:07
  you being totally depleted. Yeah.
• 51:10
  Isn't that the directional guidance?
• 51:12
  I mean, we're talking out of turn here.
• 51:13
  We should have, we should have a conversation with someone.
• 51:16
  But it's like you just want to avoid getting into that red
• 51:19
  area, like where you've you've burnt your tank too low.
• 51:23
  Because then there's like a, it's like with lactate and the
• 51:26
  energy recovery cost, you're just going to incur a bigger
• 51:29
  recovery cost. Yeah.
• 51:30
  If you go, let's say on your fuel tank, if you go below that
• 51:33
  three, if you go below the last quarter, the price you pay for
• 51:38
  the recovery, it's just a lot more than if you talk to GEL,
• 51:42
  which prevents you going below that last quarter.
• 51:45
  You just recover way quicker. It's just that last bit.
• 51:49
  I mean, in Ryan's defense, there has.
• 51:51
  I haven't seen a hot cross bun in life.
• 51:54
  Weights, not. Easter.
• 51:58
  And I've done 2 by 5K on Saturday as well.
• 52:01
  I should have had one in between that.
• 52:07
  Speaking of first meals, our our pet arrived and had his first
• 52:14
  meal yesterday. Oh.
• 52:16
  Here I've seen a TikTok. I'm so funny.
• 52:19
  This woman gave her snake a little like mouse or a white rat
• 52:24
  and then didn't they become friends?
• 52:27
  So the snake actually didn't even eat no mouse in the end.
• 52:31
  Yeah, they became friends. Fearful Dean is grabbing his
• 52:37
  snake as we speak. Well, pardon the pun is.
• 52:40
  That a metaphor. Hopefully.
• 52:44
  He's. Not, Oh, no.
• 52:45
  Way is tiny fella. Yeah.
• 52:49
  Wait, he's. A He's a He's a growler.
• 52:55
  Not a shower. That's unreal.
• 53:00
  Have the kids named it? No, but still we're still
• 53:04
  working on the on the final name, but.
• 53:08
  Have a soway the snake or something?
• 53:11
  No, actually, no, maybe not that yet.
• 53:16
  Chapman, Gasich. Rosa.
• 53:21
  Oh yeah, is. That a boy or a girl?
• 53:24
  Well, I'm learning a lot, but apparently it's difficult to
• 53:28
  tell and so you have to wait till they're about two or three
• 53:31
  if you want to, and there's people you can take them to to
• 53:34
  find out. So what's what's the length
• 53:38
  right now? About a foot, maybe about 20 to
• 53:49
  30 centimeters I'd say, and I'll get to about a meter.
• 53:53
  And it obviously won't bite. Just just not.
• 53:57
  Unless you and not unless you smells dinner on you.
• 54:00
  OK. OK.
• 54:02
  OK, yeah. So yeah, there you go anyway.
• 54:06
  All right, apologies for that listeners but well, those those
• 54:09
  who watch via the video, newbie and bonus content this week
• 54:15
  Discovery Channel, where are we? I might as well tell you about
• 54:20
  my 2 by 5K. Whilst rare on my week in
• 54:23
  general, I had my highest mileage in the rebuild so far,
• 54:28
  92K, which actually resembles somewhat of a normal running
• 54:33
  week with no double s. I was thinking what?
• 54:36
  What do you reckon is the highest feasible volume you
• 54:39
  could do off singles only without it becoming like stupid?
• 54:46
  130 maybe? Reckon somewhere.
• 54:49
  You run every day. That's that's that's the nice
• 54:51
  but. That was six days, so that was
• 54:54
  six days running, one complete rest day and I had 90K on the
• 54:59
  bike as well, so it's a good week really, to be fair.
• 55:02
  How many K running? 92.
• 55:06
  Yeah, probably like 1-10 you reckon on.
• 55:09
  Yeah, what was the long run? 20. 21, so 90 minutes, yeah.
• 55:15
  Yeah. So like would you bump that up?
• 55:17
  So if you bumped up to two hours like you're going to get a good
• 55:20
  bit more there. Probably, but I just, I want to
• 55:24
  just keep doing what I'm doing until I feel like I'm stagnating
• 55:27
  and then, you know, change one thing at a time rather than
• 55:30
  trying to like just rush stuff now.
• 55:33
  Yeah, I think that sounds like a great week. 90 odd KS and 90 KS
• 55:37
  on the bike like there's nothing nothing wrong.
• 55:42
  With them, yeah. Yeah, it's got, it feels like
• 55:46
  it's going well the end. So Tuesday is a threshold
• 55:51
  session, Thursday LT1. So that was given the results
• 55:57
  like 3 thirties, 2 by 16 minutes at three 30s, which probably
• 56:03
  there should be a gel in between each of those 16 minutes really
• 56:07
  as well because that's 32 minutes worth of LT1.
• 56:11
  A gel wouldn't go and miss there and then Saturday morning is
• 56:15
  like a long threshold session. So it's probably a nose
• 56:19
  replicates like a base period to typical LT2 sessions, 1 short
• 56:25
  reps, 1 long Rep and then an LT1 session and just an easy 90
• 56:30
  minutes for the quality. So yeah, going well, the two by
• 56:36
  5K was 1616 the first one and then three minute jog slash walk
• 56:46
  and 1610 the second one felt fine, like felt proper threshold
• 56:51
  like. And I was confident enough to
• 56:53
  push from the start. So like there's a few of the
• 56:56
  boys there who were going to be running around 3 eighteens or
• 57:00
  three 20s. And now I just wanted to like
• 57:03
  test myself a little bit and push from the start to see what
• 57:06
  I could do, which is a good thing because it shows I guess
• 57:10
  I've got some confidence back. Like a couple of weeks ago would
• 57:13
  have been sandbagging at least the first Rep to make sure that
• 57:17
  I got through it. But the only thing is I'm, I'm
• 57:22
  got that turnover. Like I felt fine in terms of the
• 57:26
  effort but I just couldn't physically speed up because my
• 57:30
  legs wouldn't take over any quicker.
• 57:33
  But it was conscious that Thursday was big with the bike
• 57:36
  threshold in the morning and the 32 minutes LT1 in the evening.
• 57:40
  So just take it and move on I guess.
• 57:44
  That just comes with time as well, like you can't increase
• 57:47
  mileage and intensity at the same time.
• 57:49
  So you're better off man. You're playing played a long
• 57:52
  term game and you're going the right way.
• 57:55
  It will come. And that's a question on when
• 57:58
  you're talking about double S or extend your long run work on
• 58:02
  your speed. Like, what do you?
• 58:05
  Yeah, I mean, I'll be having the chat with the coach about what
• 58:10
  you want, what you think is the smartest thing to do.
• 58:14
  Give it what your goal is. But like, what are you hoping
• 58:18
  to? I think you're feeling fitter
• 58:20
  every week, right? So you wouldn't look to change
• 58:25
  too much, would you? No, no.
• 58:29
  I think RAF is of the mindset of just get that threshold back to
• 58:33
  where it was as quickly as possible and then maybe change,
• 58:36
  start adding like overspeed and stuff.
• 58:40
  Makes sense? Not that you said as much, but
• 58:42
  that's just what I'm inferring from the train and it's all
• 58:45
  being targeted around like LT2 largely.
• 58:48
  And I think you're it was only when was it 5 weeks ago that you
• 58:58
  were really back doing some 2 workouts in a week.
• 59:02
  Would that be fair? Yeah, yeah.
• 59:04
  So it's all happening pretty fast.
• 59:06
  Yeah. And then here we are again, two
• 59:11
  weeks out from the next race. So it's fun, just good sign
• 59:18
  better the bridges efforts. So but was racing in two weeks.
• 59:23
  Oh yeah, that'll be a big recap. That's a big weekend.
• 59:28
  What else? I hope that was I was going to
• 59:30
  say from my week. I was doing the warm up on
• 59:32
  Saturday and surprise surprise, I got there late 6:00 AM meet
• 59:38
  and I got there at 6:15. But I was like, it doesn't
• 59:43
  matter because people fart around, changing shoes, doing
• 59:46
  the stretches and all that for like half an hour anyway.
• 59:48
  So I figured I'll just do the job by myself and then whilst
• 59:52
  everyone's doing all the drills and stuff, I'll catch up to
• 59:55
  them. Goes to the toilet at the end of
• 59:57
  the jog and then had taken the fob off my car key, you know, so
• 1:00:02
  like all the dangly keys, you don't have to carry them with
• 1:00:04
  the end. It's just the unlock lock thing.
• 1:00:10
  And it was in, you know, in your shorts.
• 1:00:11
  You have them invisible pockets sometimes on like the inside the
• 1:00:14
  net. And it was just in there.
• 1:00:16
  And as I left the toilet, it was about 800 meter jog back to like
• 1:00:20
  the warm up area and then. I was like tapping around for
• 1:00:25
  some reason and I noticed the key fob wasn't there and I was
• 1:00:28
  like, Oh no, like I'm already playing catch up.
• 1:00:31
  I didn't need to be going back now looking for this key
• 1:00:34
  somewhere. It was still dark, so it was
• 1:00:36
  like half six. So I'm retracing my steps over
• 1:00:39
  this 708 hundred meter little patch, staring at the floor,
• 1:00:44
  can't see anything. And then I figured it was on
• 1:00:49
  Lake Mungo, like around where the Park Run starters.
• 1:00:53
  So I was like, oh, we'll Park run will be starting in the next
• 1:00:56
  hour or so. Someone will find that I'm just
• 1:00:59
  going to go and get my workout done and worry about it after.
• 1:01:03
  Someone will hand it in to like the park run volunteers if they
• 1:01:07
  find it. So once it conceded to this,
• 1:01:10
  goes back to the car to change my shoes.
• 1:01:12
  And then of course, I realize I can't open the bloody car to get
• 1:01:15
  my shoes so go back to retrace my steps again.
• 1:01:23
  Like I'm just going to have to find this thing, whether it
• 1:01:25
  takes me 5 minutes or an hour. And then for some reason I felt
• 1:01:29
  it, it just slipped out of the pocket and was just hanging
• 1:01:33
  around, you know, in like the bait, the knickers part of.
• 1:01:38
  And just. Just bouncing up up against all
• 1:01:41
  sorts of things. Just knocking around in there,
• 1:01:44
  yeah. Surprised you didn't feel it?
• 1:01:49
  Yeah. I'd actually don't know what
• 1:01:51
  that that says, but I'd rather not do the analysis on it.
• 1:01:55
  But it was in there at. Least your Gooch isn't as
• 1:01:57
  sensitive as mine at the minute. It might have given you some
• 1:02:06
  light relief or something, all that knocking around.
• 1:02:08
  Probably what it needs a bit of therapy there.
• 1:02:14
  See, that was the funny story of the week.
• 1:02:17
  What else have we got going on here, Dean?
• 1:02:19
  How was how? How was the ride?
• 1:02:22
  The group holding up on a Saturday morning seeing people
• 1:02:24
  were sat in a few personal bests.
• 1:02:27
  Oh, it was a disaster. Actually.
• 1:02:30
  It wasn't a good way. And this is so we, so it's the
• 1:02:40
  usual group was there, but I think people were just feeling
• 1:02:44
  some people were feeling quite good.
• 1:02:46
  And So what that meant was people weren't rolling turns
• 1:02:50
  that well. And I don't know if I was
• 1:02:52
  contributing to this, but you know, over that Mount Henry
• 1:02:55
  bridge, no, whatever the bridge is in Freo, I found myself at
• 1:02:58
  the front. And then you press up over that
• 1:03:00
  hill, you know, sometimes you would ride away from people and
• 1:03:02
  you would get told off. So I could feel myself playing a
• 1:03:07
  bit of a role there. And then by the time we got to a
• 1:03:10
  particular section where we normally roll turns, the group
• 1:03:13
  split into three. And a few of the few of the
• 1:03:17
  gentlemen that normally control the group were shaking their
• 1:03:21
  heads because it had all just fractured.
• 1:03:23
  And this group, Oh, and there's a, the thing with cycling groups
• 1:03:27
  is that the collective always beats the individual because you
• 1:03:32
  can save 30% when you're sitting in and then you just roll turns.
• 1:03:35
  But when the group splits apart, the strongest ones are obviously
• 1:03:38
  at the first part and then they just roll off the front.
• 1:03:41
  And I was at the back of the group at the time.
• 1:03:44
  And so I tried to help Coco bridge the gap and, and Andrew
• 1:03:49
  and I helped Coco along anyway, which we did.
• 1:03:51
  We we closed everyone down. And then we got to this part
• 1:03:54
  where we intersect with the road and I waited for a car and
• 1:03:59
  Andrew got upset with me because I've waited too much for this
• 1:04:01
  car and it ends up being the slowest car in the world.
• 1:04:04
  And we were stuck. You know that part where you do
• 1:04:06
  these? The amount had the you know
• 1:04:10
  those 6 by 1 K marathon loops we've done.
• 1:04:13
  Yeah. Four.
• 1:04:14
  Yeah, that section, yeah, when you're on the road there
• 1:04:18
  basically I got stuck by a car the whole way.
• 1:04:20
  Andrew waited for me, no one else did and we lost the group.
• 1:04:23
  And so we then took shortcuts to try and rejoin the group and,
• 1:04:30
  and in taking those shortcuts, we, we thought we, we thought we
• 1:04:34
  just missed them. Turns out we hadn't because
• 1:04:36
  Andrew got a puncture trying to take one of the shortcuts.
• 1:04:39
  Oh. My.
• 1:04:40
  God blame didn't blame me for the puncture.
• 1:04:42
  I was very kind. I would have blamed me, but he
• 1:04:44
  basically towed me all along each highway to catch up to the
• 1:04:48
  the group after we'd been stuck behind this car.
• 1:04:50
  We then got a punk, he got a puncture.
• 1:04:52
  We then took another shortcut down South Perth and then I got
• 1:04:57
  the puncture and so then I've then just walked my bike back to
• 1:05:03
  work hoping there would be something at work that I could
• 1:05:07
  fix my bike with. There wasn't.
• 1:05:08
  So then I just had to actually Uber to Osborne Park, and then I
• 1:05:12
  jogged home from Osborne Park in my Lycra and socks because I did
• 1:05:17
  some Mother's Day shopping. From in what footwear?
• 1:05:21
  Socks. Socks.
• 1:05:23
  Oh my God. Why is the new footage of you
• 1:05:28
  running up the PSP in your socks and lycra?
• 1:05:31
  Well, someone saw me. Yeah.
• 1:05:32
  One of the triathletes caught me.
• 1:05:34
  She was running home. She just was like, what's going
• 1:05:37
  on here? It's hard to explain, but.
• 1:05:41
  And then that's why you saw me. I think you commented.
• 1:05:43
  I just saw. Check my Strava.
• 1:05:46
  You commented on my run. So then I I ran into work to
• 1:05:50
  yesterday to fix the puncture I. Was wondering what what was
• 1:05:56
  going on there. That was my bike, so it's a bit
• 1:05:59
  of a bit of a messy week. Needless to say I think I jogged
• 1:06:03
  about 60 odd KS. Would have ridden 200 KS.
• 1:06:07
  Oh well, by whichever means you get it in.
• 1:06:11
  It was, yeah, wasn't the most smoothest of of weeks, but yeah,
• 1:06:15
  it got something done. So there's no post dried coffee.
• 1:06:20
  No, no, it wasn't. No, of course it was just a sad
• 1:06:24
  side of the fears. Me just I went over the bridge,
• 1:06:28
  he ran over. It's has got a bit of a bite to
• 1:06:30
  it, the bridges, the the Narrows.
• 1:06:34
  That eighth K, yeah, that's also where where I broke my arm that
• 1:06:38
  time as well wasn't. It on the way down, yeah.
• 1:06:41
  Yeah, Bastard Bridge. We'll call it the Bastard
• 1:06:44
  Bridge. Yeah, they claimed my rear tire,
• 1:06:47
  so there you go. When you have some running news
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  outperform. So got bad news this week, boys?
• 1:07:13
  There's no cross country in the next Winter Olympics in 20-30.
• 1:07:20
  They haven't ruled it out. I think it's in in the Alps in
• 1:07:24
  France 2030 and after that it's in Utah.
• 1:07:30
  So if there's anywhere there's going to put running cross
• 1:07:33
  country, they're going to it's going to be America and Utah.
• 1:07:35
  So they. Weren't they?
• 1:07:36
  Yeah, we haven't lost hope, but yeah, that's what we all aim
• 1:07:43
  for. But yeah, I think it's pretty.
• 1:07:46
  Like I can understand in one way, but I feel like you're
• 1:07:50
  just. I I can't like what, what's the
• 1:07:54
  argument not to put it in because like, for example, the
• 1:07:56
  Summer Olympics allowed break dancing like in terms of in
• 1:08:02
  terms of Winter Olympics, like what, what's the argue?
• 1:08:05
  What's the argument not to put it in like?
• 1:08:07
  It's like because certain certain sports aren't competed
• 1:08:12
  globally and aren't considered like a world sport right?
• 1:08:15
  Or maybe the like what's the criteria?
• 1:08:18
  I don't understand what it wouldn't mate.
• 1:08:20
  It just make it'll make the Winter Olympics more inclusive
• 1:08:23
  because it will invite them African countries, it'll get
• 1:08:27
  them involved for yeah, they might.
• 1:08:32
  Physically find it hard to find a course runnable in Alps during
• 1:08:37
  winter though. That's cross country.
• 1:08:39
  It's meant to be hard. Yeah, true.
• 1:08:41
  Like the court, the course I ran in Ireland last November, the
• 1:08:46
  mud bath. Like it's meant to be hard.
• 1:08:49
  Like you could easily run that shit in snow.
• 1:08:52
  Surprise, the brands aren't all over it.
• 1:08:54
  They'd be able to develop and market a snow spike.
• 1:08:58
  Even. Yeah, yeah, just put longer
• 1:09:00
  spikes in. They have.
• 1:09:02
  It's called 15 mil spikes. It says says that to be an
• 1:09:08
  Olympic sport, it must be played on snow or ice.
• 1:09:12
  It must also be governed by an International Federation, adhere
• 1:09:15
  to the Olympic Charter and world anti Derby code and show global
• 1:09:19
  popularity. I mean it takes all of those as
• 1:09:22
  I think other than obviously it's not played on ice.
• 1:09:24
  So the question is, is it played on snow?
• 1:09:26
  Can it be played on snow? Yes.
• 1:09:30
  I think is it be gosh or what? Like the one in Poland that was
• 1:09:34
  completely like, I mean, it's muds in and around the snow, but
• 1:09:37
  well, that's pretty much snow. Where was the Winter Olympics?
• 1:09:41
  Where the hell this year? Milan.
• 1:09:44
  It was Milan. Yeah, just gone.
• 1:09:46
  Yeah. All that was like manicured
• 1:09:48
  snow, like it wasn't natural snow.
• 1:09:50
  It was all like man made. So surely you could make a cross
• 1:09:53
  country. A man made cross country course
• 1:09:55
  would like some snow where it's like a bit fluffy, where it's
• 1:09:59
  going to be harder, and then other snow where it's just more
• 1:10:01
  compact. Like I think it is possible to
• 1:10:04
  do. And yeah, I think it'd just be
• 1:10:07
  better for the Winter Olympics in general.
• 1:10:09
  But like it meets all the other criteria I I And if the question
• 1:10:15
  is whether or not it can be played on snow, like wouldn't it
• 1:10:18
  just be not put forward as an option then?
• 1:10:23
  Yeah, how is it even being considered then?
• 1:10:26
  Doesn't make sense. But yeah, I did say that the
• 1:10:33
  notice. As with probably anything these
• 1:10:36
  days, it'll come down to some sort of financial reasoning.
• 1:10:40
  We're in it. If it made sense financially,
• 1:10:42
  they'd do it. The next item, Phil Sussman, and
• 1:10:47
  then if you see any, done a post talking about an injury which is
• 1:10:50
  sustained. So he won't be participating in
• 1:10:54
  the European Marathon Championships, which he'd
• 1:10:56
  recently been announced for, which wasn't shy of controversy
• 1:11:00
  in itself. As we mentioned they'd confirmed
• 1:11:03
  5 athletes, British Athletics that is.
• 1:11:06
  We're being part of that team. Then Sussman says he's taken a
• 1:11:10
  step back to recover from his injury, won't be there.
• 1:11:14
  And then 24 to 48 hours later, they announce Ellis Cross is
• 1:11:19
  replacing him in the team, which is good because like we said
• 1:11:22
  last week, Ellis went to Istanbul chasing the points.
• 1:11:26
  He'd run 210. But it also doesn't make
• 1:11:30
  complete sense, which goes back to lack of transparency in the
• 1:11:34
  selection criteria and just not making things clear.
• 1:11:38
  Because there's actual rankings produced by European athletics
• 1:11:44
  and you can filter by marathon. And when you do this, you see
• 1:11:48
  Jake Smith and Alfie Manthor rank above Ellis as per the
• 1:11:56
  rules or ranking system which they've decided to implement.
• 1:12:02
  And Alice gets asked. With the way British Athletics
• 1:12:06
  is run, I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if they were like, oh,
• 1:12:11
  Alice's family in Birmingham, he can stay with them.
• 1:12:15
  We save a bit of money. Mr. Hobb, though, we have a
• 1:12:20
  proposition. We'd like to select Alice, but
• 1:12:23
  only if you can house him for the weekend.
• 1:12:26
  I'm happy for Alice. Like he like he's sort of played
• 1:12:29
  the game like he's he done that Istanbul half marathon on the
• 1:12:33
  sole chance of getting selected and he has run a faster
• 1:12:38
  marathon. Dan Jake and Alfie and it was
• 1:12:42
  his debut. So you presume he will go
• 1:12:46
  better. So yeah, like I obviously I'd
• 1:12:52
  love to see Jake there because I like just hearing his story,
• 1:12:55
  having him on the pod. Like I'm just a big fan of Jake
• 1:12:57
  now. And but like Ellis Cross, like
• 1:13:01
  either either you'd be happy. I'm just happy.
• 1:13:02
  Like they should be sending another person along with Alice.
• 1:13:05
  They should have a full team. What's your opinion on Sesame?
• 1:13:11
  Like is it worth the trade off of he done London knowing he was
• 1:13:17
  a little bit bad? Like, like now, he misses a
• 1:13:21
  major championship. Yeah, the video announcement did
• 1:13:26
  make me think this sounds very amateur hour, as in like
• 1:13:30
  something I'd do, you know, basically he he knew the injury
• 1:13:34
  was there, but he chose to like run through it, which is
• 1:13:38
  literally what I'd done last year.
• 1:13:39
  But you just usually you see and you think of pros as making like
• 1:13:44
  these very sensible decisions for like the longevity of their
• 1:13:48
  career. And they don't really and say
• 1:13:52
  don't take risks. But yeah, he he obviously
• 1:13:57
  thought he was going to run a great race at London.
• 1:13:59
  So it's probably a little bit sour that he didn't get the
• 1:14:02
  result that he wanted neither. And now he has to take a step
• 1:14:06
  back with injury and it it. It's not surprising given what
• 1:14:11
  did he do last year Round 3 didn't he done Amsterdam into
• 1:14:15
  London and Valencia was? It done London first, then
• 1:14:20
  Amsterdam into Valencia, was it? And then, yeah, he's sort of
• 1:14:28
  stuck in that like 207208. He hasn't sort of gotten the
• 1:14:32
  edge to go past it. Because even then, Valencia back
• 1:14:38
  into London again in April, that's like the first
• 1:14:41
  opportunity you would get to run a marathon again, isn't it?
• 1:14:45
  So he's gone straight from those three, straight back into
• 1:14:48
  another marathon block again. Apart from Seville, like Seville
• 1:14:52
  could be an option early February.
• 1:14:54
  But like Seville, London, if you're from England, your Great
• 1:14:57
  Britain, you're going to pick London all day long.
• 1:15:01
  This dare say this injury hopefully will prove like a good
• 1:15:06
  thing for him. So it'll just be like a hard
• 1:15:08
  reset. Give his body the rest it needs.
• 1:15:10
  Maybe he can come back from a different angle rather than just
• 1:15:13
  marathon block to marathon block. 100% like I guarantee you
• 1:15:18
  this break just give his body a bit of rest.
• 1:15:21
  Like the body gets injured for a reason like you're pushing it.
• 1:15:25
  It just needs a bit of rest to come back.
• 1:15:27
  And I bet you he'll I nearly put money on him getting under two O
• 1:15:31
  7 on his first marathon back once he.
• 1:15:35
  Doesn't actually you see where he's been spending this time now
• 1:15:39
  instead? Now where is he?
• 1:15:42
  In the saddle, No. Riding horses.
• 1:15:51
  Just going back to the Winter Olympics, I just saw some
• 1:15:56
  comments by is it Kirsty Coventry, the IOC president, who
• 1:16:05
  said no summer sport, no all season sports will be included.
• 1:16:08
  And that was in reference to a suite of sports that were put
• 1:16:13
  forward. So cross country, trail running
• 1:16:15
  cycle across gravel cyclic. So I think that the issue is
• 1:16:19
  that it opens the door if you include.
• 1:16:23
  So we're we're I'm just looking at cross country and think cross
• 1:16:25
  country would be a great fit at the Winter Olympics.
• 1:16:28
  And because it doesn't currently have a home at the Summer
• 1:16:31
  Olympics, it makes a lot of sense.
• 1:16:33
  And I think Bri bringing more countries into like or bringing
• 1:16:37
  almost, you know, part of a continent into the Winter
• 1:16:40
  Olympics makes a lot of sense. But I think holding true to the
• 1:16:45
  theme of ice and snow is why they're choosing to stay down
• 1:16:50
  that path. But so I don't know seems I can
• 1:16:55
  understand that. Can be held in the ice and snow
• 1:16:58
  though. That's the.
• 1:17:01
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I would be
• 1:17:04
  advocating for if I was just pushing for cross country.
• 1:17:07
  Like if it was, if it was. Snowing in Ireland, it'd be held
• 1:17:10
  in the ice and snow. Yeah, like it was snowing in
• 1:17:12
  America. It probably wouldn't be.
• 1:17:14
  Probably called it off. Or Australia.
• 1:17:19
  What was the name Kirsty Coventry?
• 1:17:21
  She wants to get herself to a UK or Irish cross country scene, go
• 1:17:26
  round two or three races and then tell, try and tell herself
• 1:17:30
  it's not a winter sport. Right where we are, Shanghai
• 1:17:37
  Diamond League going, you want to do these?
• 1:17:41
  Yeah, so this first Diamond League of the Year taking place
• 1:17:46
  the weekend, I think it's the 16th, which is the Saturday in
• 1:17:53
  Ireland anyway, yeah, pretty stacked fields.
• 1:17:57
  We'll start off with the women's 1500.
• 1:17:59
  You've got a truckload of Aussies and there is.
• 1:18:04
  We're going to hype up this rematch and there is going to be
• 1:18:07
  Sarah Billings, Abby Caldwell, Dorcas Ewoi, Linden Hall, Burka
• 1:18:14
  Halem. Then you've got Claudia
• 1:18:16
  Hollingsworth and Jess Hall. Take two.
• 1:18:18
  We've got a few Americans, Emily Mackay, Gracie Morris, but yeah,
• 1:18:25
  super, super stacked and I put money on an Aussie winning this.
• 1:18:30
  Oh. That's a big goal, yeah.
• 1:18:34
  Oh, but then Halem so good, isn't she?
• 1:18:37
  That's so funny. Look, you, you, you know how
• 1:18:41
  Jess and Claudia have raced each other recently?
• 1:18:43
  Like very kind of par for par. And then look at the difference
• 1:18:47
  in their world rank and Jess is ranked number one and Claudia
• 1:18:50
  45th. Claudie's that long?
• 1:18:53
  Oh no, there's one for 111 Taryn perks and I can't.
• 1:19:01
  I should pick Yeah out of Halem. I think Halem could win it.
• 1:19:10
  Or you wish to be honest like this so hard.
• 1:19:13
  Or Daguma. You say Jess as well.
• 1:19:15
  Ranking at the minute. Yeah, but no one else has run a
• 1:19:19
  race. You have had your track season.
• 1:19:22
  We have world indoors. I mean actually.
• 1:19:26
  What's the name there? Saren Berry.
• 1:19:28
  She, I reckon she could be. She's good as well.
• 1:19:34
  And the Guma, she's an 800 isn't she?
• 1:19:36
  That's why she hasn't got a PB or world ranking, but she's good
• 1:19:39
  over the 800. I'll go, Claudia, that's what I
• 1:19:44
  want to go. That's like such a good pick
• 1:19:49
  because it's like anyone outside of Australia, well outside of
• 1:19:54
  following a straight this summer of Australian athletics wouldn't
• 1:19:57
  be picking that, I think. How many Diamond League races
• 1:20:02
  has she even done? Claudia Like 2 maybe?
• 1:20:07
  Probably I just think she's Jessel's number.
• 1:20:11
  She's very fit and she is probably she's a better kick.
• 1:20:16
  The Aussies look at how punching above their weight they are
• 1:20:19
  there. They've got the most
• 1:20:20
  representation in that field with 55-IN-1 race.
• 1:20:26
  No, you're saying? Catching above our life.
• 1:20:28
  To like, look China. But look at the the world
• 1:20:33
  rankings. Yeah, true.
• 1:20:35
  So Jess is ranked number one in the world currently Linden 7,
• 1:20:42
  Sarah Billings 19. I be called World 29th, Claudia
• 1:20:46
  45th. Guys, there's been no races.
• 1:20:50
  Not many people don't in. Like people don't pick indoors
• 1:20:53
  either. Like half them don't do it.
• 1:20:55
  But I reckon the qualification window would go if I had a look,
• 1:20:59
  I reckon it'd be sit back. You reckon that like the your
• 1:21:04
  ranking points don't roll off that quickly?
• 1:21:08
  Does it reset every year? Oh, I didn't think so.
• 1:21:12
  I think it, I think that's the world rankings for this year.
• 1:21:17
  Oh, you reckon? Yeah, oh, surely.
• 1:21:26
  But yeah, huge failed. Yeah, has to, because freaking
• 1:21:32
  50 pagans better than whole. Yeah, but you have to in order
• 1:21:37
  to maintain your world ranking in the middle distance.
• 1:21:40
  You have to. It's your average average score
• 1:21:44
  of your best five races. Those people probably haven't
• 1:21:49
  had five races. Yeah.
• 1:21:51
  So it's yeah. So faith is third.
• 1:21:58
  So I think that's the that's the difference is like, I think it's
• 1:22:04
  like and and you you get I think bonus points depending on what
• 1:22:07
  they are. So the national champs and those
• 1:22:11
  sorts of things give you a lot more bonus points.
• 1:22:15
  But yeah, no, they're all the big names are still there.
• 1:22:18
  Jess Hall, chip, Chu chip, keep the a gun hilt, Hunter Bell,
• 1:22:21
  Healy Hall, Hailu Hailum. So no, no Aussies.
• 1:22:27
  Aussies are legit. Punching it's a compliment
• 1:22:34
  though in even in in this discipline compared to say all
• 1:22:38
  the others this that on paper might be a good conversation as
• 1:22:42
  well. What is the strongest discipline
• 1:22:46
  which Australia represent male or female?
• 1:22:50
  And this could well be it, couldn't it?
• 1:22:53
  Women's 15. Did you see the men's 4 by 400
• 1:22:58
  in the real life? Heard by Rhys Holder.
• 1:23:01
  Run like the 10th fastest split of all time or something.
• 1:23:05
  Yeah, they were taking it up to South Africa and Botswana.
• 1:23:09
  It was, it was those three and then daylight for 4th, but it
• 1:23:12
  looked very good. I'm lucky not to finish second,
• 1:23:16
  but yeah, probably this I would say, I would say.
• 1:23:20
  In the four by four, close second maybe?
• 1:23:24
  In the men's 800 you've got a few.
• 1:23:27
  It's really weird. There's no Europeans, there's
• 1:23:31
  one Lithuanian one in the women's 1500, but there's a few
• 1:23:35
  here in the men's 800. So you've got Adrian Ben from
• 1:23:39
  Spain, Peter Ball from Aussie Australia, Luke Boyce from
• 1:23:43
  Australia, Mark English from Ireland, You've got Wycliffe
• 1:23:47
  Kenyamal from Kenya, Yanis Menzine from France, Brandon
• 1:23:54
  Miller from the US, Ben Patterson from the UK.
• 1:23:58
  So he's gone from Belfast to China in a week.
• 1:24:02
  That is rough. I wonder what like sort of
• 1:24:05
  appearance fee you get for a Diamond League.
• 1:24:07
  I wouldn't have thought it was that much it.
• 1:24:10
  Must be worth as well. Yeah.
• 1:24:13
  Unless you might just want to see China as well.
• 1:24:16
  Good experience he's. A tourist.
• 1:24:20
  But I put money on Patterson here, having one under his belt,
• 1:24:23
  nearly dropping down the distance even though Peter Ball
• 1:24:26
  is so fit. I'll go pay the ball then.
• 1:24:29
  Yeah. Who are you going, Ryan?
• 1:24:31
  And we need to have a peek in the women's 15, too.
• 1:24:35
  I'll go Jess Hall before you ever go.
• 1:24:38
  Yeah, I'm going. That's Sarin Beret from
• 1:24:40
  Ethiopia. No love for Dorcas?
• 1:24:46
  It's been a long year for Dorcas.
• 1:24:48
  We've reaped our rewards. Cash those chips in and in the
• 1:24:52
  800. What do you do?
• 1:24:55
  You, you buy, sell at the top. So we've we've sold our Dorcas
• 1:24:59
  shares. Take our take our money and run.
• 1:25:02
  Reinvest in at the bottom. Yeah, ball for the men's.
• 1:25:10
  Next, the women's 5K. So you've got a truckload of
• 1:25:16
  Ethiopians, Kenyans and then a couple of Aussies sprinkled in.
• 1:25:20
  So I'll just pick out the names. I know you have Melissa Courtney
• 1:25:27
  Bryant from the UK doing the same trip has been passing from
• 1:25:30
  sunny Belfast to to China. You've got Rose date, Rosie
• 1:25:35
  Davis Medina, ESA from Ethiopia, Faith Kippy Aegon.
• 1:25:43
  She's a fourteen O 5 to her name.
• 1:25:45
  Shit, she's opening up her season and Marty skyring.
• 1:25:50
  I'm cannot wait to see what she does.
• 1:25:53
  I feel like she's going so under the radar and she's after making
• 1:25:56
  a big jump this year. And then you've got really
• 1:25:59
  Walcott Nolan, and I'm going to go out on a whim here and say,
• 1:26:05
  hey, TPA Gun might win this one. Yeah, you'd think so.
• 1:26:10
  The only question mark is obviously we haven't.
• 1:26:13
  It's first up after a big spell, so you never know.
• 1:26:20
  What worries me here is there's two Kenyans near the end,
• 1:26:24
  Yanisha Shamika, she's run 1551 and then you've got another
• 1:26:30
  Alima Tilea, she's got a 1617 beside her name.
• 1:26:35
  So I'm sorry, how the hell did these girls even get into this
• 1:26:38
  meet? Yeah, I must have done something
• 1:26:42
  impressive in training. They must be, yeah.
• 1:26:45
  So they might be on for Big Peeves.
• 1:26:47
  Yeah, there's 12 Ethiopians in that field alone.
• 1:26:52
  Wonder what the flight That must be a short flight, but yeah, we
• 1:26:56
  can't really look past 50. You can't.
• 1:26:59
  I'm trying to but I can't. It's 10 hours if.
• 1:27:03
  If I was then you would go is it a cell?
• 1:27:09
  Yeah, like they're just way faster and like, it's sort of an
• 1:27:14
  awkward race for Rose Dave. Oh, well, a few of them, other
• 1:27:16
  Ethiopians, they're all around the 1430.
• 1:27:19
  So you just gamble and just hang on the back of them probably.
• 1:27:23
  What's the is the is Rose Davies is her Does she have the
• 1:27:30
  Australian record? Is it 1431, the Aussie record?
• 1:27:33
  Yeah, yeah. I think the hard part though is
• 1:27:36
  the like, I remember these races in the past.
• 1:27:40
  Do you remember watching Matt Ramsden run?
• 1:27:43
  I think he won like a national 5K title and went over to,
• 1:27:48
  there's a couple of China diamond leagues trying to post
• 1:27:51
  times and you just remember they're like pretty muggy.
• 1:27:55
  Air quality is not great. Like they don't typically play
• 1:28:00
  out like they do some of those European diamond leagues where
• 1:28:03
  they're one in low thirteens or under.
• 1:28:07
  So I I as much as you like a your comment on about Modi sky
• 1:28:12
  ring, like that would be the exciting part for us to
• 1:28:16
  spectate, but it's probably not going to be the IT might not be
• 1:28:19
  the might not have the ability to run fast.
• 1:28:21
  Yes. Optimal conditions, yeah, we'll
• 1:28:27
  jump down to the men's 3K so we can we're start field.
• 1:28:32
  You've got Mohammed Abdullahi from Germany, He's a 737 guy.
• 1:28:38
  You've got friend of the show Andrews Almgren, opening up his
• 1:28:42
  season. Never thought I'd be saying that
• 1:28:44
  words. He's got a 731 to his name.
• 1:28:49
  And Santiago Cartufi from Uruguay, he pops up every now
• 1:28:52
  and then. Ranil Cheriot, Timothy Cheriot.
• 1:28:55
  The two brothers. Name's by the way.
• 1:28:58
  OK, Troph, sorry. So I'm just offend them, my
• 1:29:05
  Uruguayan brothers, you see. The two chariot brothers are in
• 1:29:09
  there and who? Are they brothers?
• 1:29:15
  We spoke about this. Yeah, in our eyes there and
• 1:29:20
  settle Donald Ozzie and this one he's A7, he's run 734 they've.
• 1:29:26
  Got the. Ballet the cabinet well, like
• 1:29:30
  he's a steeple chaser and see what he does, you Hoon.
• 1:29:34
  I think he's a super chaser as well from Ethiopia.
• 1:29:39
  What's gamma ninefold? There's a few gammas.
• 1:29:44
  Do we go Shirley on green? Yeah, you lump on him, dear.
• 1:29:48
  Unless some of these Kenyans are in form.
• 1:29:51
  I think so. And then if you're set
• 1:29:54
  O'Donnell, you literally just hang on the back.
• 1:29:57
  Of his his mentor. Yeah.
• 1:30:02
  So funny that when he said, Oh yeah, he just grabbed me on the
• 1:30:05
  cooldown, he was asking a load of questions, Seth and Omron.
• 1:30:13
  When you're looking at some of these times, like I keep looking
• 1:30:15
  for like a bit of a magical barrier 730, like, you know,
• 1:30:21
  your 32nd 2 hundreds and then you realize in Yakob run 13
• 1:30:26
  seconds quicker than that. I know.
• 1:30:31
  Like imagine seeing a 717 in those numbers.
• 1:30:34
  It blows them out of the water, Yeah, Which is what?
• 1:30:37
  More? That's like a second and a half
• 1:30:39
  faster pillar. Who's your tip?
• 1:30:42
  Who's everyone thinking Arm green?
• 1:30:46
  Romanticize over arm green and go with that one, yeah.
• 1:30:51
  I'll go balu Bahani bahani. You're on the Swedish train,
• 1:30:58
  Owen. Yeah, London arm run.
• 1:31:04
  Well, look forward to watching that.
• 1:31:06
  It should be on a decent time for us as well.
• 1:31:08
  It'll probably be in Saturday night for you, Aaron.
• 1:31:14
  Yeah, I'll get to what I'll sure you can watch the highlights of
• 1:31:16
  an anyway. Oh no, you're behind, aren't
• 1:31:19
  you? So yeah, it'll be Saturday
• 1:31:21
  afternoon because I assume it's like going to be an evening meet
• 1:31:26
  in local time, innit? Next item on the news list,
• 1:31:31
  Hailish McCall Gum was taking aim at British Athletics
• 1:31:35
  because. So she's done a tweet reading
• 1:31:38
  why the men's road 10K times qualify for Birmingham, which is
• 1:31:42
  the European champs 10K, but not women.
• 1:31:47
  So she's obsessed about the fact that women, in order to qualify,
• 1:31:52
  they have to have run in a women's only 10K race in order
• 1:31:56
  for that time to be valid. Whereas obviously men get the
• 1:32:01
  opportunity to run both in male only 10,000 meter races and also
• 1:32:07
  mixed races. So I can't see what she's
• 1:32:11
  saying. The opportunity for women to
• 1:32:13
  actually get these times on the board is, if that's the case,
• 1:32:16
  severely limited because how many 10,000 meter track races
• 1:32:22
  are there? We've spoken about it before
• 1:32:24
  with that sound. Running one over in the US seems
• 1:32:27
  to be almost like the only one all year.
• 1:32:30
  And then Rd. races where they separate genders.
• 1:32:34
  I can't. I don't know if I'm being
• 1:32:36
  stupid, but off the top of my head, where does that happen?
• 1:32:41
  There's not many. I can't think of many you'd.
• 1:32:43
  Have to go out your way. So that does feel very harsh on
• 1:32:48
  the women in order to qualify. Like what are they supposed to
• 1:32:52
  do? And then obviously the actual
• 1:32:53
  time qualifier in itself is going to be fast.
• 1:32:57
  So the chance to actually run that time, even if there was
• 1:33:01
  plenty of female only races, is going to be hard.
• 1:33:06
  It's such a shame that like, why do athletes need to call these
• 1:33:10
  things out? Yeah, but when they should just
• 1:33:15
  be focusing on training and they probably feel like, well,
• 1:33:19
  there's that little attention on it.
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  If we don't say anything, who is going to like, stand up and,
• 1:33:25
  like, support us? It's such a shit situation.
• 1:33:29
  That's the saddest part is, yeah, I think they are being
• 1:33:32
  forced to call out threats in their own position, expose
• 1:33:41
  themselves to scrutiny when all they're doing is just trying to
• 1:33:47
  bring light to something that, yeah, you'd you'd hope.
• 1:33:50
  I don't know, it just doesn't make a lot of sense, does it?
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  Is this UK Athletics or World Athletics?
• 1:33:56
  Oh, I'm not sure. To be fair, I wouldn't put a
• 1:34:02
  past UK Athletics to be honest. I just I assumed it was UK
• 1:34:06
  Athletics but probably kill of me world.
• 1:34:10
  Athletics. Yeah, World Athletics wouldn't
• 1:34:13
  do something like this. They're better than that.
• 1:34:18
  Would World Athletics just take in the European Championships?
• 1:34:22
  Would they just take ruling over European Athletics?
• 1:34:25
  Or would European Athletics have their own separate stuff going
• 1:34:30
  on substantially? Could be European athletics
• 1:34:32
  thing as well. Yeah, I'm not sure.
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  Anyway, it's a bit of a joke, so yeah, deadline 70th of May and
• 1:34:39
  decisions will be the 24th of May.
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  Did you have a word in the rear on the weekend I.
• 1:34:45
  Said I was like please please please please please.
• 1:34:50
  What, Whilst you were half stepping?
• 1:34:52
  Jack No. No.
• 1:34:59
  Double Trouble, I said. I said I had one and it was
• 1:35:02
  inspired by a few performances this weekend.
• 1:35:06
  It was about and I need you boys to hold me to account if I ever
• 1:35:10
  go down this road because I would hate for myself to go
• 1:35:13
  there. But I understand that happens.
• 1:35:16
  Excuses for races like I think the fact that running has become
• 1:35:22
  so popular through social media and Instagram and TikTok, which
• 1:35:26
  is obviously the representation of a perfect world, whatever
• 1:35:31
  it's showcasing, whether it's like family life, relationships,
• 1:35:36
  bloody how much money people have got.
• 1:35:39
  You only see the best side of things on there, don't you?
• 1:35:42
  And now that running has made its way onto these platforms,
• 1:35:46
  everyone's singing and dancing with PBS and amazing sessions
• 1:35:50
  and marathon blocks and friends having coffee and everything's
• 1:35:54
  positive, which is great. But that then forces people to,
• 1:35:59
  when they have a race or result which isn't what they wanted,
• 1:36:04
  maybe what they'd vocalized or publicized, they feel the need
• 1:36:08
  to make up all these excuses as to why it wasn't what they
• 1:36:12
  thought it was going to be. And I would actually love it.
• 1:36:17
  It would just be so refreshing. It would be completely different
• 1:36:20
  content if someone just went on there and went, I ran a fucking
• 1:36:24
  stinker. I can't believe I thought I was
• 1:36:26
  that fit or I can't believe I was on here saying I was going
• 1:36:30
  to run this. Like, look at my third K.
• 1:36:32
  It's a disgrace. What was I trying to do?
• 1:36:36
  Or you don't even have to go that far.
• 1:36:38
  Just don't. If you start going towards like
• 1:36:43
  the wind or the heat or like there's a fine line between what
• 1:36:48
  is a fact and what is an excuse. Like, obviously these factors
• 1:36:52
  can influence the results or the performance, but if they're
• 1:36:57
  legitimate, they're almost unspoken factors, as in everyone
• 1:37:01
  understands if it's a hot day, you're not going to run that
• 1:37:04
  fast or if it's very windy, it's going to impact your pace.
• 1:37:08
  But if the results or the race is seemingly normal and then
• 1:37:14
  you're there scrambling around talking about all these kind of
• 1:37:18
  like minor factors as to why the performance didn't go to plan,
• 1:37:23
  it's just not a great look. And I'm not sure that people are
• 1:37:27
  aware of that when they're doing it.
• 1:37:30
  But you can kind of see through it.
• 1:37:33
  And I almost feel sorry for them because they've probably feel a
• 1:37:37
  little bit pressured to justify and explain these things.
• 1:37:42
  But yeah, if any of my races don't go to plan, just put it on
• 1:37:48
  me and ask me why. And I'll say because I was an
• 1:37:52
  idiot. Like when you think about it
• 1:37:55
  like you do, you put your body under so much stress and you
• 1:37:59
  need everything to go so right to actually have a good day.
• 1:38:03
  Like it's all right to have a bad 1.
• 1:38:06
  I feel like some people like when you're on social media,
• 1:38:10
  when you're like very public about what you do, you can
• 1:38:12
  nearly like self sabotage. As in like like the reverse
• 1:38:18
  taper. Like that's the biggest load of
• 1:38:20
  bullshit I've ever heard of my whole fucking life.
• 1:38:23
  Yeah, I was because I knew I was going to do this as a double
• 1:38:26
  trouble, but and I was trying to understand what is actually the
• 1:38:29
  difference between an excuse and just a genuine fact.
• 1:38:32
  Because it's very blurred. And the only logical conclusion
• 1:38:36
  I could come up with was an excuse is something which you
• 1:38:41
  were in control of. So like, if you've went out too
• 1:38:46
  hard or if you've done any of these things, which was the
• 1:38:50
  control of that was purely yours and it's your fault, then that's
• 1:38:54
  an excuse. You need to just look inwards
• 1:38:56
  and take accountability for making a silly decision.
• 1:39:00
  But if it's something else, like someone tripped you up or
• 1:39:03
  anything which has happened to you which you couldn't control,
• 1:39:06
  maybe that's a legitimate reasoning as to why the race
• 1:39:09
  went a certain way, I think. That's a good way to look at it.
• 1:39:14
  I like that. Like, because I think you don't
• 1:39:19
  want to get to a point where you're not critiquing or trying
• 1:39:24
  to unpack your performance so that you learn from it.
• 1:39:28
  And then, yeah. And then it's probably.
• 1:39:31
  And then the best way to do that is owning what you believe are
• 1:39:35
  the things you could control and saying whether or not you made
• 1:39:40
  the right decisions around those things, and then acknowledging
• 1:39:43
  if there were things outside of your control that they may have
• 1:39:49
  played a part to. I think I think where it gets, I
• 1:39:56
  think some of the area we're straight into is about like
• 1:39:59
  sometimes there might be like recurring times where people
• 1:40:04
  don't perform in line with their own expectations.
• 1:40:06
  And that's what it's all about. And it's and if that keeps
• 1:40:10
  happening, then you probably want to try and reflect on what
• 1:40:13
  how you're. Measuring certain parts of what
• 1:40:17
  you believe should be your performance and, and whether or
• 1:40:19
  not you're falling foul of that. Like I remember for a long time
• 1:40:24
  I would train out for this particular race and I was really
• 1:40:26
  just focused on outcome rather than anything else.
• 1:40:29
  And I kept coming the same spot. It was actually HBF.
• 1:40:33
  I just come 5th every year, do the same training every year.
• 1:40:37
  It, I think I'd be improving this time of year.
• 1:40:40
  But in fact, the weather was just cooling off and that was
• 1:40:42
  definitely just part of it. So I was probably tricking
• 1:40:45
  myself into believing my fitness was better than what it was and
• 1:40:50
  not really understanding Physiology that much and
• 1:40:52
  understanding I had no idea of training zones and all these
• 1:40:56
  like, yeah, all these metrics to develop fitness and all those
• 1:41:01
  things. And I just, yeah, find excuses
• 1:41:04
  for why things didn't go the way they were.
• 1:41:06
  And then got a coach, did like race specific sessions.
• 1:41:11
  So then had an idea of actually where my fitness was ahead of
• 1:41:14
  the race, did some race, the race simulation stuff, which
• 1:41:18
  meant that by the time I did go and do those races, the results
• 1:41:21
  that came weren't a surprise. They were what we expected them
• 1:41:26
  to be. Yeah, the Self sabotage 1 is an
• 1:41:32
  interesting one. It's almost like a reflection of
• 1:41:36
  someone I don't know feeling that much pressure to do
• 1:41:42
  something that they need to look for a way, a reasoning to help
• 1:41:48
  them if they don't do it. Which is just such a shame
• 1:41:51
  because you're almost working against yourself before you've
• 1:41:54
  even started. But are you saying Dean the 5th
• 1:42:02
  is my target HBF? No that wasn't at all related to
• 1:42:08
  you. This is just person.
• 1:42:09
  It's just my personal talking about old me.
• 1:42:11
  This is probably like 5 to 10 years ago.
• 1:42:14
  HBF used to be a race I used to do.
• 1:42:16
  I used to come the same spot every year.
• 1:42:18
  Think I'm changing things but in reality I didn't have a great
• 1:42:22
  grasp of like I didn't understand what my Lt. 2 might
• 1:42:26
  be or any thresholds I didn't like.
• 1:42:29
  I didn't know what a race specific session was.
• 1:42:32
  I wasn't even doing a park run as an indicator of fitness.
• 1:42:34
  I had no idea of what my training could look like and how
• 1:42:38
  I would build fitness over time. So and I was purely just wanting
• 1:42:42
  to beat people and so I was completely focused on the
• 1:42:45
  result. And then did you eventually
• 1:42:49
  break the the 5th place streak? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I did.
• 1:42:57
  I finished second and my training partner won the half.
• 1:42:59
  I was in the 12 K and he's like, you didn't win.
• 1:43:02
  I just shook his head. He's pretty hardcore.
• 1:43:05
  Chelan dude. He was like, Nah, it's not good
• 1:43:08
  enough. High performance culture?
• 1:43:12
  Yeah, good. Reckon that's us.
• 1:43:20
  Another one in the books. She whiz.
• 1:43:25
  Yeah, we go again Wednesday for the lactate testing unpacking.
• 1:43:33
  So we'll see you there. Thanks everyone for being with
• 1:43:35
  us for another week. Guys.
• 1:43:40
  Good luck, take it easy. This is easy. 1.3 debates on.
• 1:43:49
  Shoes and carbon plates? Is it threshold or just steady
• 1:43:52
  pace? World champs Trials.
• 1:43:53
  Who's in shape? Who's peeking early?
• 1:43:55
  Who's late to the gate? Stories from.
• 1:43:56
  Sessions that nearly broke us and races that taught us
• 1:43:59
  patients to focus