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now it's time for today's episode of Dragnet. Original air date April the
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sixth, nineteen fifty and the title is The Big Book. The story you
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were about to hear is true, only the names have been changed to protect
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the inner. A team of cigarettes, best of all, Long Cigarettes brings
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you Dragnet. You're a detective sergeant. You're a signed the Juvenile Bureau of
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the high schools in your city have been flooded with obscene literature. If you
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stamp out one source and a dozen more spring up, your job stop them.
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Drag Net the documented drama of an actual crime. All the next thirty
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minutes, in cooperation with the Los Angeles Police Department, you will travel step
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by step on the side of the law through an actual case, from official
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police files, from beginning to end, from crime to punishment. Drag Net
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is the story of your police sports in action. It was Monday, October
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twenty first, it was cool in Los Angeles. We were working the day
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watch out of Juvenile Bureau. My partner's Ben Romero. The boss is Inspector
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Lester, commander of the Juvenile Bureau. My name is Friday. It was
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ten am when we got to the auditorium of Canfield High School stage door.
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I guess we go right out onto the day. A better way to work,
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call though the police. Yes, sir, this is Sergeant Romero.
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My name is fridy. How do you do. I'm Paul Fisher, the
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principal here. Come right out onto the station and get the meeting started,
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all right. I just have a chair there. Thanks is the mic phone
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on, Ladies and gentlemen of the Coordinating Council, members of the Parent Teachers
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Association. As you know, this meeting has been called well the purpose of
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discussing ways in MEAs to bring about the name of the distribution of the filthy
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And I've seen books and pamphlets that have been visiting every high school campus in
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the city of Los Angeles. We've tried to agree at our disposal will clean
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this matter up, and they all seem to fail on the advice of the
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co Ordinating Council. And this is mandel to the PTA. We've called in
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the authorities here to discuss the matter with us this morning. Our two officers
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connected with the Junior Bureau of our Police department, Sergeant through Merrow and Sogeant
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Pride, and now may I turned the meeting over to Sargeant Pry Los Angeles
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Police Department. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. The only way we're going
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to get to the bottom of this thing and put a stop to it is
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to get all the information we can on where this lasivious material is coming from.
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You people, as parents and teachers of the children who are buying and
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reading this stuff, might be able to give us some help. So it's
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all right, and you, mister Fisher, I'd like to hear from some
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of the people sitting out there, I mean, thank you do If any
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of you people have anything to say or any information, any questions, why
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would be glad to listen to you and do our best to answer your question.
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Yes, the lady out there is go ahead. I'm in the sign
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I know in our neighborhood, the test. I feel sure that that's one
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of the places where the children at the place of this name for the police
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department, for the man has the place, has never been arrested. Can
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you tell me what well, ma'am, I think I better make it clear
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now that there's only one way a police officer can arrest anyone for possession of
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lude literature. The officer has to prove that the party who possesses this literature
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does so for the purpose of selling it. Sometimes it's difficult to prove improve
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it. You mean, you can go to this place and buy a book
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from him. Yes, ma'am, that's just the point. I don't know
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offhand about the one in your neighborhood, but I can assure you that we've
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cracked down on hundreds of such peddlers in the past few months. You can
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see for yourselves. If this doesn't put a stop to it, you've got
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to get to the source. I have a press by you, yes,
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sir, I ain't fresh shot. I'm directed with the sweater Shooter's boys.
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Yes, sir. Why not trying to make is I know the young boy
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pretty well with the accession of my boys forty nine in number. I have
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a lad here. Just about every boy in this high school has one of
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the books, or at past he's seeing one. Yes, sir, we're
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aware of that. Why not trying to make is somewhere to do this more
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code? There's gotta be a law of her band such thing. Yes,
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sir, there is such a law. Then why isn't it that boss?
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It is? What does the law say? Well, how do you mean
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she what I need? What happens when somebody's found ghetto? You're selling these
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forks white the pality? Oh well, the law states that an offender is
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liable to find a jail term of six months or both. That's not my
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why they're a stronger law. I wouldn't know that. Shit. What we
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need laws and some teth in them. We have good laws in the state
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of California for the most part. It's true that we're weak in some cases,
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but you can say that about most states. I think, well,
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you may be satisfied in the laws, but I am not. I say
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stronger law, that's the answer. No, I don't think it is,
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mister Scott. Passing a set of new laws isn't going to make the city
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a cleaner or a safer place for your boys to grow up in. Laws
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don't decide how moral a city's going to be. People do. Laws don't
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mold character in young boys eating parents and teachers do that. I do.
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You're getting that? What do you mean just this, mister Scott. It's
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our job on the police department to keep filthy junks like these books from falling
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into youngster's hands. Now on the other side of the fence, the youngster
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has to be taught to recognize us obscene material for what it is, filth
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and garbage, and the youngsters have to be taught that in the home,
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in the school, and the church. Now they can be made to understand
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if the kind of dirt and filters these books represent, well, that'd be
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worth more than any new set of laws. Amount of sallow. How do
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you reach them through the youngsters? They seem to know the way. The
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next morning, at eight am, after meeting with Inspector Lester of Juvenile Bureau,
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Ben and I went on stakehout at Canfield High School. From past experience,
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we knew there was little hope of a quick end of the case.
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It was going to be a long haul, chasing the source all the way
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up the line, from the high school kids who bought the filthy books,
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to the small fry pushers, the wholesalers, and finally we hoped to the
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top, the man who printed the books. We had no illusions on that
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score. Generally, with the arrest of his pushers and other small timers who
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worked for him, the top man gets the alarm and clears out before the
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police officer can apprehend him with evidence that they'll stand up in court. During
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the first two days at Canfield High Ben and I found out nothing. The
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obscene literature was being bartered and change between students, but the main source of
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supply was still a mystery. We had one slim lead to go on.
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Mister Fisher's high school principal helped run it down. We've been watching that boy
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down in the yard since yesterday. Mestition seems to have quite a bit of
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spending money, spensive cloth carvers on. I don't know that boy's family.
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That could be well fire. We saw him with a stack of those dirty
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books in his notebook. He must have had a dozen of them, were
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showing him around to his tribe, Travers. Are you sure take a look
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down there? Yeah, Travers is showing him something. I can't see what
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it is. Come over this side and one. Yeah, small books.
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He's giving them to one of the other those they've got their wallets out.
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They're giving Travers money. Come on, Ben, you better come to mister
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Fisher. This way out to the yarch, No, to the leg that's
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it. Let's hurry, huh this store side of the Travers, Travers,
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I like to talk to you. Yeah. Well, these men here from
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the police department. They want to ask you some question. Years, so
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we go outside here. Come on, what's the matter of miss Fisher.
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I haven't done anything. You see, what is it? What's it all
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about? It'll be a lot easier if we have the truth. So did
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you just sell those boys out there? Some dirty books? No? Well,
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I mean it's only a gag. They're funny books. Have you dot
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any more of them? Morning? Yes, sir? Let me see them?
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Please? I didn't steal them, only books, funny books. Yeah,
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thanks, almost, it doesn't. Do you think these are funny books?
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Do you travel well some of them? I guess not. It's only
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a gags, aren't you what'd you get them? I didn't steal them.
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I bought them off a guy who I can't tell you. Do you have
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any more of these books? No, sir? Will you show us your
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locker? I can't remember the combination lock. Could you open the locker force?
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Yes, but I'll have to get the maintenance man. Oh, i'll
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show you. Come on John, here, sir, this one four twelve.
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I've only got a couple, all right, we'll see mine open.
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I haven't done anything. Here's a sample of girl lockers, loaded down and
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lock them. You can't arrest me. I don't sell the books, only
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read them. Somebody's been briefing you who I'm only making good hot on yourself.
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Boy, you can't prove anything. These are my books. I don't
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sell them. What do you get them? Who sell them to nobody?
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I got them? That's all all right. We'll have to talk to your
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folks. You can't their way, No, no, you can't, don't,
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will have to son. Oh please please don't tell them. Please don't
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let them know. I'll do anything. Let's have the truth. Then what
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are you selling the books for? Name's Barney, That's all I know.
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I meet him a cigar store downtown Fifth and Harrison. Does he sell you
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the books? He gives them to me. I sell them and give him
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the money I get ten cents for when I sell un much. You're sell
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them for twenty five cents somewhere? Don't I get thirty cents for those?
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The boys in this school have been paying that kind of money for this deal.
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Yes, sir, this man who gives you these books, you know
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where he lives, knows where I have any ideas? When are you going
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to see him? Well, this is Wednesday. I was going to meet
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him Downtown's half noon the cigar store. Yes, sir, but I don't
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want to get to buy in trouble. He's been okay to me. Sure
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he's done a lot for you. Four pm Wednesday, Then and I drove
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downtown with sixteen year old Eddie Travers. They parked the car near the corner
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of Fifth and Harrison and kept an eye on the cigar store. We waited.
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No sign yet, No, sir Barney. Usually he waits for the
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news stand there. I haven't seen him yet. How long you've been selling
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for this man? Sin? About three months? Maybe four? Any idea
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where he gets the books? Well? I just a minute, sorry,
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Yeah, I think, Yeah, that's Bunnie, the one going up to
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the cigar counter man in the gray suit. And yeah, that's him.
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He's going into one eat his cafe. Is that where you usually go after
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you meet him? Yes, sir, you better take the boy back to
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the office. Ben, I'll tail this guy and see I can find out.
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Okay, I'm gonna pick you up later. I'll call you at the
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office. Oh, you got any matches, I'll pick some up a cigar
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stand. Fine, they later? Yeah, box of matches yep, and
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a pack of experiment too. All right, Tom's Blige got a special.
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I don't take a new bourbon met No, no thing, hi rod he
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rote another tomorrow when you good time on a uh we have a chicken taco's
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side. Order of side beans up, coffee, chicken tak us on one
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be another? Come anything else? Money? Ye have some more coffee the
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money on one up? Yeah, here you go. Thanks. They got
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good tacos to watch. You mean it's freshed up. Yeah, there's the
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sugar. Oh, thank you there is. Yeah. Yeah, that's annoying
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thing yesterday. What are you stalking number? You know the pretty a book?
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Goodness? You can make some money on the side. That's sounds good
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right here. Money. I told you once no, come my head,
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come over. I said, no, that loaded junk. The next time
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you bring that stop in here. I tell the boss to understand. Now
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eat that get up A real funny day looks great, but what a cool
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Yeah, come on, come on, eat and get out and take that
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junk with I don't like to showing anyway. Coffee certainly cold. Yeah,
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yep, you'd probably get a big boot rady re mm hmm. Yeah it's
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pretty good. Yeah, that's good quality stuff. Yeah, I made that
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a little book. Le me sure you want mm hmm. Wait a minute,
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yeah, I kill you man. How about selling me when I'm okay?
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Four bits for the small ones, buck for the big one. Wait
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a minute, let's see I got Jim, I got fourteen of three.
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What I'll do, I'll make it? Do you had the whole works to
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ten bucks? Okay, you got any more? You're going in business for
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yourself? You know. I got a new stand at the River sign books.
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I guess I want to go fast. I think I can probably handle
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another twenty five bucks. I get the rest of them back at the hotel.
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Someone bring color you know? Want maybe there night around the seventh.
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Where's the hotel? Why do you go straight up six three from me?
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It's just one block on your left called the Denver House and R three three
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center. Big going up there? Now? Well, I was supposed to
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meet some guy. Yeah, but a check was he h yeah, hey
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you we're probably wanting more of these. I can put you on the mailing
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list. Okay, the prices are right, I don't want to pay retail.
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How we work out a m on. Let's go okay, yeah,
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Rosie, which is really quick to get it? Yeah, too good?
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Real cold potato though summer like that. Yeah, no sense of humor.
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We left one in this cafe and walked up Harrison Street to sixth We turned
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left and went down one block. It was five minutes to five when we
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got to Barney's room in the Denver House, number three thirty seven. He
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dragged got a steamer trunk from under the bed. He found it out a
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stack of books and pamphlets covering the general topic of degenerate built and stories and
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photographs. Okay, macally, yeah, it's twenty five bucks worth. The
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money in the bucks are always Okay, there you go, there's ten fifteen
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eighteen. I can give you a check for the rest. I know it's
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any good. You could take off. I never see you again. You'll
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see me. You're under arrest. Huh, you're kidding. All right,
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let's hold it right here. Hey, wait a minute. Look we can
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work this thing out. We'll work it out downtown. Wait a minute,
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I can set this thing right for it or you're getting this junk? Who's
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supplying you? Why not use your head? You never get the top man,
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Not ten years you want? We got lots of time. Come on,
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you are listening to drag Net The case history of a police investigation.
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The filthy literature racket feeds on the curiosity of youngsters and the stupidity and ignorance
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of adults. It's an all seasoned business, and in its own quiet way,
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it has reached the market which the other heavy rackets never hoped to reach.
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Your home and you're chill the six pm? When's the October twenty third?
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We checked the record and the makesheet showed the book peddler's true name to
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be Barney W. Timpson, thirty eight years old. He had a past
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record of one previous conviction for peddling lude literature in Dodge City, Iowa in
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March nineteen forty eight. We had him brought the interrogation room. They're not
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on temple. Let's make it against Barney. Where are you getting the books?
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I told you so to deliver them for it? Who? Different guys?
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I don't remember them all. I send different guys every time. How
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often do they make the deliveries to you? Why? Someone? When rob
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the first yearsually? Sometimes maybe in the second they bring the books to your
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hotel. Yeah, I'll leave a pack up in the lobby addressed to me.
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They ever use the mails? They never do. They're not that dumb.
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So you've never seen the men that you do business with? That so
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I no, no, you have no idea where they're operating. I don't
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know. You expect to swallow that. I'm telling you, I don't know.
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Don't push. It's that kind of a story, Barney. I'm giving
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it to you straight now. What else do you want? Who's the supply
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man? Look? We found this notebook in your hotel room, Varney.
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Is a list names in it. It's your customer book phrase. Okay,
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I'll give us enough to land on it. I know that a coajivety.
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And you still don't know who you work to. But there's a phone number
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in this notebook. No name to go with it. Yeah, we look
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at it. This one right here. I don't know much. A customer
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has it blown with the boss. I don't know the boss. You don't
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know me. And who do you buy the books from? Who says I
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buy? I'll let go somebody a lot of money. Don't worry. I
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don't know him nothing. He don't know me nothing. He does now what
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you're going to jail for him? Barney Timpson was booked in the Central Jail
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for violation of the penal code section three eleven point three. We contacted the
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telephone company and they traced the extra phone number in Timpson's notebook to a private
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residence on Wonderview Drive in Laurel Canyon. The detail of men was assigned to
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stake out on the place during the next week, mainly from information obtained from
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Barney Timpson's customers. Seven other peddlers of the scene books and pamphlets were taken
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into custody in question. Five of the seven told us they picked up their
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supply of books from the Lawyel Canyon address. We moved in on the place
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and found thousands of loot books and pamphlets stored in the garage. Three men
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on the premises were taken into custody. They identified themselves as John Alexander,
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George Kellerher and Raymond Kester. They brought them downtown and interrogated them for two
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hours. They refused to admit anything. They were booked in, but by
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noon their lawyers arrived and they were released on rits of Habeas Corpus. Two
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PM, Ben and I met with Inspector Lester of Juvenile Bureau. The kind
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of call from the minute of stake out of the lawd Canyon place. Just
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been over the garage with the books of store. They're get any things to
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give them. A couple of things might be fairly. What's in three stacks
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of books? They found a rapped and proof letter heads in the Havenbrook Hotel.
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Yeah, we checked with the hotel. They get all their printing down
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at Rudolph Brothers place out in West la Name's not familiar to me. It's
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a big layout, especially as religious books, Bible things like that. That
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isn't man, that's for sure. How do you mean be a perfect cover
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for the racket printing the Bible one day and a flock of filthy books the
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next will be the setate? What kind of a name does this Rudolph's place
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have around town? They've been here long fifty good reputation. Oh, if
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you give it a look. Where is the place West third, just below
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Athne Street. All right, check the place over, but don't make them
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suspicious. Is anything wrong or you just tipping into a ready to move?
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All right? Give they've got to reach the presses, turning out this jug
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and choke off a supply where it starts, so that one gotta beat in
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just a minute, Yeah nowhere, okayn't do right out? They spoted one
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of the delivery cars where downtown They followed out to West la you know,
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Rudolph's sprinting shop. Four PM, Ben and I, together with two other
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men from Juvenile Bureau, drove out Beverly Boulevard to Athene Street and down one
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block to the corner of West Third, where we picked up grocery Pacelli on
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Steak County. The Rudolph Brothers Printing Company covered almost half a square block on
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the corner of West Third and Athens. The front of the plant had display
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windows featuring expensive leather bound Bibles and other religious literature. While the other men
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remained on Steakout, Ben and I crossed the street and entered the plant.
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We introduced ourselves to the clerk in charge as potential a hole sale customers,
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and we have to be shown around the shop. It was more than obliging.
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I'd be happy to show you our pland gentlemen, the most modern religious
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publication company in the West. That's our claim. Or were you step this
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week? Lead? Thank you on your left there those are three of our
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new level owe machines. Excellent mechanisms. Needless to say, you must employ
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quite a few men in here sixty five full time enough to meet any emergency
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rest jobs you might want done. Now over here are Bush Emerson hand presses
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you hand lonely religious books. Then nothing else, that's right cent We specialize
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exclusively in that you don't take in any small contract school journals things like that.
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Know, our steady customers take up all our time. Here on this
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stone. You see the pages of a new prayer book. We're getting together
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very over an entirely different kind of hype face. Yes, And back there
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along the wall our new line of types, the very latest monotypes. Then
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the proof presses next to them are a proof readers and the flatbed presslow press.
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Beyond that, it seems like lots of activity. Business is pretty good,
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I guess. Huh. Oh, yes, we got pretty busy.
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Quality printing is always in the man. Yeah, well, thanks very much
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for showing us around. Not at all, gentlemen anytime. Yeah, this
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way out, all right, I'll get to one of my cards here you
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are, Oh, thank you. And when you're ready to do business,
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well I just give me a call. I'd be glad to take care of
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you. All right, to think we'll do that. Good afternoon, gentlemen.
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All right, what do you think you got me? That's not a
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play whatever system they're using, you got a down path, Bible, bribe
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book, church announcement. That's all I saw, Ben work. That man
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getting out of that cargoing into Rudolphin Alexander. Yeah, we picked up this
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morning on look now tenured six pm. The lights in the display windows when
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the shades were drawn. We watched the employees leave. Six thirty pm.
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The lights in the plant were still burning. Gross went down to the corner
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and picked up some hot dogs and the coffee for our dinner. We ate
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in the car. Seven thirty pm, a black catlike invertible pulled up across
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the street. Two men got out and let themselves in through the front door.
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We waited between seven thirty and eight pm. We cut of twenty one
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men entering the planet that's printing press and starting up. Okay, let's move,
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Oh yeah, Gross, but Shelley want to go through the back and
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then and I will take the front. All right, that's going well,
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the neat set up. I had it all figured. Yeah. He didn't
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spot any site entrances, did you? Oh here, we aren't try the
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door. Yeah it smell gun all right, or the police officers open up.
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I come on, open up. Let's hit it quick. Come on
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again, bare they are, Joe, kind of smash the plates. Come
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on, what getty? We can't play both plates? What's it? Then?
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All right? Come on you all right, hold it against the way
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clothes. Get those plates off the press with it all right? Hold it
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you too, Joe. Look on, all right, that's the place my
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round up. Past minute, the doors covered, get the most tables.
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Come on over for the wall. That's about both of them. Don't come
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in going out the dark. Come on, hit them off with you.
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Come on you come on back andy, Wait, get the hands off or
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hold it up, mister, come on over there with the rest. Hey
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for this, I'll sue you done your last man. Come on, Joe,
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we've got brudo going out the back right, call the officehere are we
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gonna need a chance to take okay, take those two with you, huh?
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All right, come on, we get enough evidence against them. Now
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we're going to meet it. All changes of the junk right here, yeah,
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well right next to him. Yeah, stage from the Bible. The
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story you have just heard was true. Only the names were changed to protect
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the innocent. On January ninth, trial was held in Superior Court Department ninety
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four, City and County of Los Angeles, State of California. In a
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moment the results of that trial, Frank Rudolph and sixteen of his accomplices were
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tried and convicted of possessing lewd and lascivious literature for the purpose of sale.
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They received sentences as prescribed by law and are now serving their terms in the
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county jail. Remember this Saturday, because that means Dimension Act on NBC Welcome
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Back. Well, this is one of those cases of the more things change,
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the more things remain the same on one level. On another, there's
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been a great deal of societal change. Parents in the twenty first century are
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just as concerned about really inappropriate adult content falling into the hands of kids.
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Difference, of course, is that so much of this is accelerated, and
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we're law enforcements concerned. It's with exploitation of children and attempts to use the
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Internet in certain nefarious ways. So the methods have changed, but the problem
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remains much the same. We also saw Joe Friday responding for the call for
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tougher laws pointing out that it's the community, the school, the home,
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and the houses of worship that have got the primary responsibility for providing moral guidance,
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which mitigates against some of this sort of thing. But also, of
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course there's the effect of culture on laws. So this is all pretty fascinating
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just because we're dealing and addressing and coming to terms with so many of the
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same issues, just with a lot of high technology in a place of printing
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technology. I also have to say once again we saw a brilliantly done sound
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recreation and this stuff is the way that he insisted on accuracy. It's just
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you know, compared to other radio dramas, even some modern ones won't go
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to this much trouble. But the way that they made it sound like you
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were really in an auditorium if you've ever been in one of those public meetings,
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uh, that really the episode captured the feel and of course Harry Morgan's
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character with a twitch, uh you know that little verbal twitch using that same
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phrase. Really it does. It felt so real like you were actually in
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the meeting hall where this was going on and where someone was speaking into you
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know, one of those meet uh. Those sound systems that you know that
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a school will have had around for a decade or so. Really good sound
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and just great sound detail continues to be a big theme of the show.
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All right, Well, onto some listener comments and feedback, and we just
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have this from Edward who says, keep up the good workout there in beautiful
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bucolic blue sky, blue football field, Boise. Easy for him to say,
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thanks so much, Edward. I do appreciate your comment and the support,
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and that will actually do it for today. We will be back tomorrow
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because this is our one thousand and five hundred and fiftieth episode and we're celebrating
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with a little something extra special. Be sure and listen in for that,
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and then when we return on Monday with the Saint. Next Saturday, another
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episode of DRAGONA and coming next Tuesday, it's the lineup returning with four previously
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unheard episodes, So be sure and listen for that. In the meantime,
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