Latest / The Mark Simone Show / Mark interviews Boston radio host Howie Carr.
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Great talk show hosts in America. A best selling author.
- 0:02Speaker 1: You'll love his books. In fact, the latest one is
- 0:06Speaker 1: now available. You can go to Howie carshow dot com.
- 0:08Speaker 1: You can get everything there Howie carshow dot com. You're
- 0:11Speaker 1: here show there get the podcasts. Also on iHeart Howie Carr.
- 0:15Speaker 1: How you doing very good?
- 0:17Speaker 2: I'm just looking for my mugshot of James. Call me.
- 0:20Speaker 2: I can't wait to get it. I mean, come on,
- 0:23Speaker 2: they didn't give us a purple walk. They got to
- 0:25Speaker 2: give us a mug shot, right.
- 0:27Speaker 1: You know one of your books a million years ago.
- 0:29Speaker 1: I remember one of your first books. It was about
- 0:31Speaker 1: corrupt FBI agents, and I said, what corrupt FBI? I
- 0:34Speaker 1: never believed it, but well you were ahead of your
- 0:37Speaker 1: time on that.
- 0:39Speaker 2: Well, it was just where I was living. You know,
- 0:42Speaker 2: I could see it firsthand, and you know, anybody with
- 0:45Speaker 2: his eyes open could see it. And you know my
- 0:47Speaker 2: new book I got, I got all these pictures of
- 0:50Speaker 2: people that were set up by the FBI, you know,
- 0:52Speaker 2: just just just dead bodies lying in the street. Not
- 0:55Speaker 2: just in Boston either. They killed people in Florida, they
- 0:59Speaker 2: killed people in Oklahoma. I mean, they this is what
- 1:03Speaker 2: they do, you know, not all of them. But you know,
- 1:06Speaker 2: it's this corruption is nothing new. And and you know,
- 1:09Speaker 2: Jay Edgar Hoover used to try to get blackmail material
- 1:13Speaker 2: odd members of Congress, just like Jack Smith was and
- 1:16Speaker 2: Joe Biden were doing. But you know the difference is
- 1:19Speaker 2: I think all all j Edgar Hoover wanted was to
- 1:22Speaker 2: keep his job after the mandatory retirement agent, maybe get
- 1:25Speaker 2: a few winners in fixed mob horse races. You know.
- 1:30Speaker 2: I mean, these guys wanted to basically destroy democracy and
- 1:34Speaker 2: put put sitting members of Congress in prison. It's it's
- 1:38Speaker 2: just outrageous.
- 1:39Speaker 1: Yeah, so call me, uh but what do you think
- 1:43Speaker 1: he was just he obviously must have known about that
- 1:46Speaker 1: Jayed G.
- 1:46Speaker 2: Hoover stuff.
- 1:47Speaker 1: He said, I'll do that, I'll copy that. That's a
- 1:49Speaker 1: good business model. It's the first time he met Trump,
- 1:52Speaker 1: he showed him the dirty stuff he had on him.
- 1:53Speaker 1: Is that what he was trying to do? Be Jay
- 1:55Speaker 1: gro Hoover.
- 1:57Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's just endemic to the to the
- 2:01Speaker 2: to the bureau. You know, this is this is just
- 2:04Speaker 2: the way they they always operated. And and this guy
- 2:07Speaker 2: called me, I mean, he he was I think he
- 2:09Speaker 2: was somewhat more dangerous because he was so sanctimonious. I mean,
- 2:12Speaker 2: I don't really think. I don't think Jan Gruber ever
- 2:15Speaker 2: thought of himself as you know, being you know, he
- 2:18Speaker 2: knew what he was, you know, just a you know,
- 2:21Speaker 2: a weird you know, closeted guy who you know, just
- 2:25Speaker 2: you know, wanted to maintain power. I mean, you know,
- 2:28Speaker 2: they there was a reason why they called why they
- 2:30Speaker 2: nicknamed h call me the Cardinal, you know, because he
- 2:34Speaker 2: was so damn sanctimonious, and you know what he he
- 2:39Speaker 2: just he thought and look at the titles of his books.
- 2:42Speaker 2: I can't remember now that they had, you know, his.
- 2:45Speaker 1: Higher standard, higher loyalty.
- 2:47Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, ethics, justice, all his stuff. You know. Again,
- 2:51Speaker 2: the words of Ralph Waldo Emerson always come to mind.
- 2:55Speaker 2: The louter he spoke of his honor, the faster we
- 2:57Speaker 2: counted our spoons, and that's that's really in the case.
- 3:00Speaker 2: But James call me, you.
- 3:02Speaker 1: Know, yeah, a lot of people call him James Cardinal.
- 3:04Speaker 1: Call me, yeah, and tell me about Jack Smith, the
- 3:10Speaker 1: bug eyed weirdo with the cape. This guy is a
- 3:13Speaker 1: real weirdo.
- 3:15Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know, you know, I you know, I
- 3:17Speaker 2: thought to myself when I first heard his name was
- 3:19Speaker 2: Jack Smith, I thought that sounds like one of Whitey
- 3:21Speaker 2: Bulger's alienses, that he was on the run, you know,
- 3:25Speaker 2: because you can't you can't really track down to Jack
- 3:28Speaker 2: Smith too many and that I noticed Trump was saying
- 3:33Speaker 2: the same thing, Jack Smith, if that really is his name,
- 3:36Speaker 2: you know, I mean, the guy is just he's demented.
- 3:40Speaker 2: I mean, what was it? What was he thinking of?
- 3:43Speaker 2: I mean, he was he started doing this stuff. It's
- 3:46Speaker 2: one of my collegists that he was trying to say, well,
- 3:48Speaker 2: why didn't Durham report on this? You know, John Durham,
- 3:51Speaker 2: the Special Council on the Russias. But you know Durham
- 3:56Speaker 2: Durham wrapped up his report in like twenty three to
- 4:01Speaker 2: Jack Smith was doing this thirty months after the January
- 4:05Speaker 2: sixth the disturbances. What was he trying to do? I mean,
- 4:10Speaker 2: there's no there's no rational proper explanation of what he
- 4:18Speaker 2: was doing. He was You know, the thing is when
- 4:20Speaker 2: you when you try to run down someone's phone records,
- 4:22Speaker 2: I mean, you know we all know what you're looking
- 4:25Speaker 2: you're looking for, you know, was who was he taught?
- 4:28Speaker 2: Who were these people talking to? Were they talking to
- 4:30Speaker 2: boyfriends or girlfriends or or you know, sinister lobbyists who
- 4:37Speaker 2: were offering them cash. I mean, that's what they were
- 4:38Speaker 2: looking for.
- 4:39Speaker 1: Come on, I.
- 4:41Speaker 2: Think you know that's I know, that's what Jiangar Hoover
- 4:43Speaker 2: was looking for when he took out a guy named
- 4:45Speaker 2: Cornelius Gallagher who was a congressman from New Jersey, you know,
- 4:49Speaker 2: and he was he had Gallagher was starting to ask
- 4:52Speaker 2: questions about FBI corruption. He said, and they said, well,
- 4:55Speaker 2: look here your records. You know, you were speaking to
- 4:58Speaker 2: mafia guy. He was in he was a congress from
- 5:00Speaker 2: New Jersey in the sixties. Of course he was speaking.
- 5:03Speaker 2: And they they leaked it to Life magazine. I mean,
- 5:07Speaker 2: believe it or not. Life Magazine was a you know,
- 5:10Speaker 2: a force in those days. And they they destroyed his
- 5:13Speaker 2: career and they and it's it's the same mo and
- 5:18Speaker 2: nothing changed except the same, except they're more except Comy
- 5:21Speaker 2: was more sanctimonious than jay I Groover. That's the only
- 5:24Speaker 2: thing I can see this changed. Can you see any difference.
- 5:27Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just horrible. You know, the biggest crime of
- 5:29Speaker 1: Jacksmith was putting out those pictures of hundreds of boxes.
- 5:33Speaker 1: All those boxes, not a single box had any classified
- 5:36Speaker 1: documents in him. In the end, he found thirty five
- 5:39Speaker 1: class classified documents that would be one inch if you
- 5:41Speaker 1: put him in a folder.
- 5:43Speaker 2: Right, And remember, I remember the day it happened. Merrick
- 5:46Speaker 2: Garland goes out there and says, you know, we're like,
- 5:48Speaker 2: I'm not going to take any questions because we're not
- 5:50Speaker 2: going to try this case in the press. And then
- 5:53Speaker 2: like thirty minutes later, there's a story on the website
- 5:55Speaker 2: of the Washington Post talking about what they quote unquote
- 5:59Speaker 2: found all the classified documents. I mean, it's just it
- 6:03Speaker 2: was so outrageous. And then and then now they're complaining, well,
- 6:07Speaker 2: you know President President Trump told Pam Bondy to indict
- 6:12Speaker 2: cam Me. Well, you know, you know, I'm glad to
- 6:15Speaker 2: see that. You know, Michael Goodwood mentioned it today in
- 6:18Speaker 2: the New York Post. I mean, it's it's all out there.
- 6:20Speaker 2: In twenty twenty two, they had a story in the
- 6:22Speaker 2: New York Times, again, another another religious sheet of the
- 6:27Speaker 2: Democrat Party cult as saying, you know, Joe Biden is
- 6:31Speaker 2: angry that Merrick Garland isn't moving faster to indict Donald Trump.
- 6:35Speaker 2: I mean, what's the difference. What's the difference.
- 6:39Speaker 1: The fact that the New York Times is still not
- 6:41Speaker 1: reported this Jack Smith story. How did they justify that
- 6:45Speaker 1: in their own minds? Aren't they supposed to be a newspaper.
- 6:49Speaker 2: Yeah, all the news that spit the print that's still
- 6:52Speaker 2: up at the top of the front page, I think,
- 6:54Speaker 2: isn't it.
- 6:54Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's all it's all the news that fits
- 6:57Speaker 1: the narrative.
- 6:57Speaker 2: That's all it is now, Yeah, right, exactly. They're not
- 7:01Speaker 2: they're they're not. They're not going to print any of this,
- 7:04Speaker 2: and they are they have they printed anything about about
- 7:08Speaker 2: the They print it very little about Come's indictment, except
- 7:12Speaker 2: to say that it's, you know, outrageous and politically inspired.
- 7:15Speaker 2: I mean, this is they it's it's not a real news.
- 7:18Speaker 2: It looks like a newspaper, but it's not a real newspaper.
- 7:21Speaker 2: And I don't I don't know. You know, you you
- 7:23Speaker 2: laugh about no one reading the daily news. I mean, honestly,
- 7:26Speaker 2: who reads the New York Times anymore other than you know,
- 7:29Speaker 2: members of the cult.
- 7:31Speaker 1: Yeah, no, those angry old women all over the Upper
- 7:33Speaker 1: West Side and the Upperest. No, they read it. They'll
- 7:35Speaker 1: quote it to you. They're watching MSNBC. They actually think
- 7:38Speaker 1: they're watching some sort of news network. There but you know,
- 7:44Speaker 1: if you look at that Morning Joe panel, there's more
- 7:46Speaker 1: scandal on that panel than any that That old friend
- 7:49Speaker 1: of yours Mike Barnacle and uh, who's that Steve Ratner.
- 7:52Speaker 1: They've all been in more scandals these people. So yeah,
- 7:56Speaker 1: will this ever end? Will the cult ever dissolve?
- 8:00Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean I always tell I always
- 8:03Speaker 2: say to my audience, you know, you know, please in
- 8:06Speaker 2: this case, I don't ask them often, but follow my
- 8:08Speaker 2: example and cut the cork. Cut the cable cork. That's
- 8:11Speaker 2: the only thing that's keeping these these networks alive. I mean,
- 8:15Speaker 2: I don't think and I think the owners understand that.
- 8:18Speaker 2: I mean MSNBC and CNN they're both for sale, right.
- 8:22Speaker 1: Yeah, Well MSNBC is actually gone now from NBC. They're
- 8:26Speaker 1: being cut off from all NBC news. They've been thrown
- 8:28Speaker 1: out of the building. They're moving the Times Square to
- 8:31Speaker 1: a studio.
- 8:32Speaker 2: I like the I like to c CBS people. You know,
- 8:35Speaker 2: they're so angry about Barry Weiss and they're saying, what
- 8:37Speaker 2: are we doing wrong? Well, you lost fifty million box
- 8:41Speaker 2: last year. That to me, that's you know, I call
- 8:45Speaker 2: me old fashioned, but that that to me is a
- 8:48Speaker 2: sign that you're doing something wrong. There's a problem with
- 8:50Speaker 2: your business model. You know, nobody's watching your stuff because
- 8:54Speaker 2: it's so bad.
- 8:56Speaker 1: Well, hey, everybody, we're out of time. Get get Howie
- 8:58Speaker 1: Car's latest book. It's called Mass Corruption. You'll love all
- 9:01Speaker 1: of his books, but the new book's Mass Corruption. What's
- 9:04Speaker 1: the best place to get at howikarshow dot com.
- 9:06Speaker 2: Heh yeah, howikarshow dot com. Just click on store and
- 9:10Speaker 2: it'll soon be an Amazon. But it's not. You know,
- 9:12Speaker 2: we don't have the actual hard physical copies for a
- 9:15Speaker 2: couple more weeks. So go to howikarshow dot com, click
- 9:18Speaker 2: on store, and we have all the the old star.
- 9:20Speaker 2: We have at least a couple of chapters on the
- 9:22Speaker 2: old FBI corruption in Boston, on all the dead bodies
- 9:26Speaker 2: the FBI turned kill They killed people, They actually killed people.
- 9:30Speaker 2: They some of them went to prison for killing people,
- 9:33Speaker 2: the FBI special agents. Wow, so this is nothing new,
- 9:36Speaker 2: all right itself.
- 9:38Speaker 1: Get the book Mass Corruption. Go to Howiecarshow dot com.
- 9:41Speaker 1: You can get a show there in the podcast Howiecarshow
- 9:44Speaker 1: dot com. Howie Car thanks for being.
- 9:46Speaker 2: With us, Thanks Mark, right bye bye, take care.
- 9:49Speaker 1: Hey, we'll get to the Mayole Race, and a whole
- 9:51Speaker 1: lot more coming up on seven to ten wo