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Mac & Bone Hour 2: Panthers Offensive Expectations · Mac & Bone Podcast

• 0:22
  Speaker 1: C.J.
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  Speaker 2: Bailey looked late to me very often, looked indecisive. When
• 0:26
  Speaker 2: he had opportunities to make plays, he didn't even give
• 0:29
  Speaker 2: his receivers a chance to make plays. He fumbled on
• 0:32
  Speaker 2: the first possession, didn't get called. He fumbles in the
• 0:35
  Speaker 2: red zone going in. You go from first-year starter, you
• 0:37
  Speaker 2: go from second-year starter, you go to third-year starter, I'm
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  Speaker 2: expecting you to be a force multiplier to make everyone
• 0:44
  Speaker 2: around you better. He made mistakes, and he just didn't
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  Speaker 2: look like he ever or this offense even thought about
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  Speaker 2: getting in a rhythm.
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  Speaker 3: They look like a team. that lost a lot of
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  Speaker 3: good players and replaced them with significantly less good players.
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  Speaker 3: Your 10-2 vibes that you were feeling in the preseason
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  Speaker 3: evaporated and basically are probably no more.
• 1:02
  Speaker 4: There you go. NC State fans, sorry.
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  Speaker 5: I know you thought we had moved on from week
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  Speaker 5: one of the Virginia game. That's David Pollock, Seaball Get
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  Speaker 5: Ball podcast. John Middlecoff is the other voice you hear there.
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  Speaker 4: It's true. I mean, somebody made the point bone the
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  Speaker 4: other day. You're going to pay C.J. Bailey all that
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  Speaker 4: NIL money.
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  Speaker 5: It probably does affect the quality of wide receivers you
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  Speaker 5: can pay. it's like the NFL, right? You give a
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  Speaker 5: quarterback big money, he then is probably going to have
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  Speaker 5: a less supporting cast, and he probably needs to carry
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  Speaker 5: that supporting cast more.
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  Speaker 4: And that's a good point about C.J.
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  Speaker 6: Bailey.
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  Speaker 5: He was not able to do that on Saturday. He's
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  Speaker 5: got to find a way to do it. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: we didn't talk about this. How many times, Bone, did
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  Speaker 5: he sit there in a pocket? I'm sure no one's
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  Speaker 5: open because he's sitting there and he's sitting there. And
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  Speaker 5: how many times did he just heave a ball towards
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  Speaker 5: the sidelines, one-on-one tight coverage, just a prayer? That did
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  Speaker 5: not go answered. That just sealed over the guy's head
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  Speaker 5: as he jumped. I mean, just throwing was horrible. Throwing
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  Speaker 5: with no plan. There was no plan.
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  Speaker 7: There was no plan anywhere for NC State, which was
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  Speaker 7: the eye-opening part of that performance. And we said it
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  Speaker 7: on Monday's show and then throughout the week. How do
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  Speaker 7: you have that much time to get ready? Also, Mackers,
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  Speaker 7: they weren't exactly getting ready for a team that was
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  Speaker 7: new to them. It's a team that they played last year.
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  Speaker 4: It's Virginia.
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  Speaker 7: I know they haven't played them as much as they
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  Speaker 7: should a conference opponent, but it wasn't like they don't
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  Speaker 7: have history with playing that team. They played Tony Elliott
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  Speaker 7: a year ago. It wasn't playing some West Coast team. Oh,
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  Speaker 7: my God.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, my God. The quarterback ran. Exactly. How do you
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  Speaker 4: not have preparation for a team in your own conference? Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Well, they were surprised that the quarterback bone that used
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  Speaker 5: to be the running specialist at Penn State. They're surprised
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  Speaker 5: that that guy ran the football. But anyway, I'd be
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  Speaker 5: surprised if he throws it more than 15 times. And
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  Speaker 5: when that happens, that's probably bad news for Virginia. That's
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  Speaker 5: when I'll be surprised. But let's forget about Week Zero, Bone.
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  Speaker 5: Right now, it's about the fact that all the other
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  Speaker 5: FBS teams in the Carolinas are starting their seasons here
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  Speaker 5: in week one, including Wake Tonight against Akron. I want
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  Speaker 5: to do one last chat with all the fans and
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  Speaker 5: all the fan bases that are getting going here this week.
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  Speaker 4: In the Carolinas.
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  Speaker 5: The state Carolina, we talked about it last week, their
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  Speaker 5: expectations for the season. We were probably dead wrong with
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  Speaker 5: both of them, but we talked about it. So let's
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  Speaker 5: talk about these other schools. In fairness, we weren't dead
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  Speaker 5: wrong until the to play the games. Let's talk about
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  Speaker 5: these other schools. That's why I love the summer. Can't
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  Speaker 5: be proven wrong. We're not wrong today. So if you
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  Speaker 5: are a fan of Charlotte, ECU app, Duke, Wake, South Carolina, Clemson,
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  Speaker 5: I'm just kind of curious.
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  Speaker 4: The season gets ready to start.
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  Speaker 5: You guys probably are as educated as you've been all
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  Speaker 5: offseason now about your team and the umpteen new players
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  Speaker 5: you all have. You probably know your schedule, but The
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  Speaker 5: best you have all summer. So I want to know,
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  Speaker 5: as the season starts, what is a win total?
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  Speaker 4: What accomplishments? Maybe you need to beat your rival and
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  Speaker 4: win such and such games.
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  Speaker 5: What are you looking for to where you say, This
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  Speaker 5: will be a successful season. And it's so different for
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  Speaker 5: all these different programs. Like, we got a Duke fan
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  Speaker 5: on here, Bone, saying seven wins at best.
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  Speaker 4: I'm scared.
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  Speaker 5: Would you say seven wins for Duke this year with
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  Speaker 5: all they lost, Bone? I think I would say that's
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  Speaker 5: a good season for Manny Diaz.
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  Speaker 4: Who, by the way, has had two good seasons. No,
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  Speaker 4: he hasn't.
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  Speaker 7: He's been above expectations the first two years when we've
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  Speaker 7: had this discussion. However, I think getting seven in a
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  Speaker 7: bowl game with 18 wins his first two years... would
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  Speaker 7: still be a really good season for Duke. If they
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  Speaker 7: got nine wins again, then here's the issue. If he
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  Speaker 7: goes nine wins again, that's it for him probably.
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  Speaker 5: He'll get a bigger job.
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  Speaker 4: I want them to do that. I want them to
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  Speaker 4: win every game.
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  Speaker 7: But if Manny Diaz wins nine games again and wins
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  Speaker 7: 27 games his first three years when they were projected
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  Speaker 7: lower than that, then Manny Diaz is going to go...
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  Speaker 7: Whatever schools come a call, he's probably going to go there,
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  Speaker 7: to be honest. But I do think that's part of
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  Speaker 7: the deal. I do think seven wins would be really good.
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  Speaker 4: They have Tulane.
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  Speaker 7: They're favored by more than a touchdown this weekend because
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  Speaker 7: Tulane lost on Summerall.
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  Speaker 4: And a bunch of players that went with them.
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  Speaker 7: Although Georgia Tech not as good as last year, we think.
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  Speaker 7: They avoid SMU and Louisville. They do avoid those two.
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  Speaker 7: I think seven wins would be good. Eight would be great.
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  Speaker 7: Nine would be absolutely phenomenal if they did that three
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  Speaker 7: years in a row. But I would say seven, because
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  Speaker 7: he's already, Mac, he's already proven the first two years
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  Speaker 7: Duke can coach them football. So he gets seven again.
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  Speaker 7: There's not a lot of, oh my God, Manny Diaz
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  Speaker 7: has to win this. No, he's already proven himself his
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  Speaker 7: first two years. I am very intrigued. In that quarterback spot,
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  Speaker 7: he's the one to be desired right now, too. Let's
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  Speaker 7: be fair about that.
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  Speaker 5: I feel like these— oh, there's a huge drop off at QB.
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  Speaker 5: A guy that's one of the leading candidates for the
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  Speaker 5: Heisman left you and left you in annoying fashion.
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  Speaker 4: Took a thousand-yard wideout.
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  Speaker 5: And you're taking a guy from San Jose State. Maybe
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  Speaker 5: he'll prove me wrong. I think seven wins. I view
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  Speaker 5: Wake and Duke similarly. They both exceeded expectations last year
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  Speaker 5: for Wake to win nine games.
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  Speaker 4: I'd be honest with you, as good.
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  Speaker 5: As Manny Diaz coaching was last year, that's the best
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  Speaker 5: damn coaching job in the Carolinas last year for Jake Dicker. Now,
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  Speaker 5: he was able to bring a lot of players that
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  Speaker 5: contributed bone with him from Washington State.
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  Speaker 4: That's the benefit of hiring a college coach. It's established.
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  Speaker 5: To run your program is he could just bring a
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  Speaker 5: bunch of good guys and you get that help right away.
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  Speaker 5: What does he do in year two, Boney? They still
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  Speaker 5: got a bunch of experienced defensive guys back from last year.
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  Speaker 7: They lose Claiborne. That's a big deal. They do, but
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  Speaker 7: Claiborne wasn't healthy a lot last year.
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  Speaker 5: Claiborne didn't necessarily even have his best year last year,
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  Speaker 5: I felt like, Boney, but you're right. He's a damn player.
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  Speaker 5: It's all about Gio Lopez. His coordinator coming aboard from
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  Speaker 5: South Alabama. I mean, what's Wake's expectation?
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  Speaker 4: And by the way, I would want to know what, like,
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  Speaker 4: this guy says Deeks will be in the ACC championship convo.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know about that.
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  Speaker 5: But, like, is Boal– is a Boal– a good follow-up
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  Speaker 5: for Jake Dicker considering.
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  Speaker 4: What they lost? I think, yeah, absolutely.
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  Speaker 7: If they get to six or seven, I think that
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  Speaker 7: would be a great first two years. Matt, who do
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  Speaker 7: you think, though, talking about those two teams specifically, who
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  Speaker 7: do you think can carry momentum from last year more?
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  Speaker 4: Again, is it Duke or Wake? Who do you trust
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  Speaker 4: more entering the season? I feel like Duke 7 wins
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  Speaker 4: Wake 6, maybe? Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Wake's schedule, they play Miami at home at Louisville and
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  Speaker 5: at SMU. That's a hard schedule, though. And they play Virginia.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know if they can get to 6, Bone.
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  Speaker 5: You are playing probably the four best teams. You don't
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  Speaker 5: have Clemson, so maybe Clemson will be in that top four.
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  Speaker 5: But I think there's a very good chance Miami, Louisville, SMU,
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  Speaker 5: and Virginia are the top four ACC teams.
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  Speaker 4: They play every one of them. God, that's brutal, man.
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  Speaker 7: They could be a similar team the last year, and
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  Speaker 7: the results may not be the same.
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  Speaker 4: Be way different.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, definitely. They may be competitive, but the wins may
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  Speaker 7: not be there.
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  Speaker 5: So a bowl season, I think that's a great follow-up
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  Speaker 5: for Dickert, no doubt about it.
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  Speaker 7: How did Wake throw in Mary Mack there in the
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  Speaker 7: middle of all this season? Mary Mack, the woman we
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  Speaker 7: used to work with here?
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  Speaker 4: Mary McDonald? How did they go? All these ACC games,
• 8:33
  Speaker 4: they throw a Mary Mac in there all of a sudden.
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  Speaker 4: Come on, Wake. There you go.
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  Speaker 7: Come on. Who's that team they're playing week two, Mac?
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  Speaker 7: I'm not familiar with their work there.
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  Speaker 4: Purdue, baby. Oh, Purdue. Okay, the Boilermakers. Get that for
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  Speaker 4: the ACC. What a showdown that is. What a big
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  Speaker 4: one that would be for the ACC. Don't mess around
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  Speaker 4: and lose that game, Wake. I want Panther Bow and
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  Speaker 4: trash-talking fights with Wake fans. Do we need that in
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  Speaker 4: our life?
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  Speaker 5: All right, let's talk about, all right, so we got
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  Speaker 5: a lot of Clemson fans checking in. So if you're
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  Speaker 5: a Waker Duke fan, do you agree with what we're
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  Speaker 5: saying here? Also, we need to hear from Charlotte, ECU,
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  Speaker 5: and App. What is your expectation? The win number where
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  Speaker 5: you're like, that's good. I like that season. There's a
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  Speaker 5: lot of uncertainty, obviously, in the group of six schools, Boney,
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  Speaker 5: because they get plucked so much in the transfer portal.
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  Speaker 5: Not to mention how the app season was disappointing last
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  Speaker 5: year at the end, the second half of the year,
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  Speaker 5: the Charlotte season in general. So I want to get
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  Speaker 5: to those schools. Clemson and South Carolina. We've got Clemson
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  Speaker 5: and Gamecock fans checking in. Let's see what we have here.
• 9:40
  Speaker 5: We have Tennessee fans chiming in. Do they not know
• 9:42
  Speaker 5: they're not in North Carolina? Well, that involves geography. All
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  Speaker 5: in since 79. He's got Clemson winning this week at
• 9:53
  Speaker 5: LSU and winning 10 games. Another Clemson fan, T-Time, says,
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  Speaker 5: I just want Clemson to be competitive. If they get
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  Speaker 5: to nine wins, including a win over USC Jr., I
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  Speaker 5: would find it very successful. You're not playing Southern Cal.
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  Speaker 5: I know their fan base is the junior USC fan base. What,
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  Speaker 5: Southern Cal? What's Clemson? Nine wins to me. And I
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  Speaker 5: know this sucks doing this because Dabo had the bar
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  Speaker 5: up there, Bone, where you've got to compete for a
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  Speaker 5: national championship. But don't Clemson fans have to adjust their
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  Speaker 5: expectations to the times?
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  Speaker 4: Nine wins I think would be pretty damn good.
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  Speaker 7: You would think so without involved Clemson fans adjusting to
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  Speaker 7: the times.
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  Speaker 4: Nine wins. Let's see.
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  Speaker 5: 919 says, 10-win Clemson is delusional.
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  Speaker 7: I tend to agree that's getting greedy. I think 9
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  Speaker 7: is probably about in that area. Yeah, 9's in that area. Again, there's... Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: 9's there. The issue, Mac, is that you look at
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  Speaker 7: Florida State, just the name, so sometimes your eyes go, oh,
• 11:02
  Speaker 7: they're playing at Florida State, but then you realize, oh, yeah, yeah.
• 11:05
  Speaker 7: Florida State is not Florida State right now, right? So
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  Speaker 7: you have to adjust almost your thinking there. How about
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  Speaker 7: this for Clemson? No Louisville, no SMU, no Virginia. That's
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  Speaker 7: a good ACC schedule. I tell you there's going to
• 11:19
  Speaker 7: be a factor in this whole deal, though, because NC
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  Speaker 7: State plays there on a Friday night. Clemson plays there
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  Speaker 7: on a Friday night. Cal is going to be dangerous,
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  Speaker 7: I think, for some of these teams this year. They're
• 11:30
  Speaker 7: going to have to go west. That quarterback is great.
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  Speaker 7: I'm not saying Cal is a playoff team by any means,
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  Speaker 7: but I think Cal is going to be a sneaky
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  Speaker 7: matchup where they're going to knock. They're going to knock
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  Speaker 7: a team or two off this year out there. Oh,
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  Speaker 7: they did last year. They beat Louisville and SMU both
• 11:46
  Speaker 7: last year. And I think they'll be better this year,
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  Speaker 7: to your point. What about Friday night games out there,
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  Speaker 7: traveling out there? They're going to get some teams, no
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  Speaker 7: doubt about it. Actually, they may get UCLA this weekend.
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  Speaker 7: Are they favored? I feel like they should be. UCLA's
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  Speaker 7: favored by a couple.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. The Chesney love. Chesney took a bunch of
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  Speaker 4: his players in. That's a fun late-night game Saturday night.
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  Speaker 5: All right, let's get back to the Carolinas here, Bone. Clemson,
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  Speaker 5: that's a very good schedule. But we've got to see
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  Speaker 5: how Vizina plays.
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  Speaker 4: I think people.
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  Speaker 5: Forget how good he was against SMU. We've got to
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  Speaker 5: hurry up. We've got to get to these other schools.
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  Speaker 5: App fans are checking in. App needs seven wins in
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  Speaker 5: a bowl game. That would be huge for them. Logan
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  Speaker 5: needs a solid, good second year. Baked Potato says Charlotte
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  Speaker 5: six wins. Shelby Shuffle win five games for Charlotte would
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  Speaker 5: be great.
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  Speaker 4: So what do you think about this?
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  Speaker 5: This guy says App's got to win eight.
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  Speaker 4: That would be a great success.
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  Speaker 5: Are these fan bases too high with their win, Charlotte
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  Speaker 5: and App?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, yeah.
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  Speaker 7: I think if we're talking about what would be a
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  Speaker 7: great season, yes. Is that likely? It doesn't feel like
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  Speaker 7: five wins for Charlotte from where they were.
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  Speaker 4: Would be phenomenal. Big time. Big time.
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  Speaker 7: App getting seven or eight wins would be huge. But, Mac,
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  Speaker 7: that's another fan base. Can they do those things? That's
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  Speaker 7: another fan base, Mac. You're talking about Clemson and adjusting
• 13:13
  Speaker 7: their mindset? App's day-to-day wins doesn't seem very realistic right
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  Speaker 7: now either. So if App even got to six wins
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  Speaker 7: in a bowl game, to me, that would be big
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  Speaker 7: for them this year. App has almost reset their mindset
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  Speaker 7: right now as well.
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  Speaker 4: App State, Steve.
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  Speaker 5: Heart says eight, nine wins. Gut says seven and five
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  Speaker 5: at best. But reality, who the hell knows?
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  Speaker 4: Picking the group of five teams, I mean, picking anybody,
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  Speaker 4: you saw how badly I picked teams that played last week,
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  Speaker 4: week zero. It's never been harder to figure out, Bone,
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  Speaker 4: who the hell's on these teams and how good they're
• 13:44
  Speaker 4: going to be and are they going to fit the systems?
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  Speaker 4: It's crazy.
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  Speaker 5: This kid from Purdue, this quarterback, sounds enticing at the
• 13:50
  Speaker 5: group of six level, mobile, dual-threat quarterback, but last year, Bone,
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  Speaker 5: I thought AJ Swann was going to be great and Cole. Eventually, Bone,
• 14:02
  Speaker 5: as the season went on, it wasn't as good as
• 14:06
  Speaker 5: it was at the start.
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  Speaker 7: I'm very familiar with the game of Malachi Singleton, the
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  Speaker 7: quarterback you're talking about, from Purdue.
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  Speaker 4: That's it.
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  Speaker 7: Malachi Singleton. That's the one that got me fired from
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  Speaker 7: App in College Football 27. Oh, it was his fault.
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  Speaker 4: It wasn't you.
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  Speaker 7: He's the one that threw 13 pickles in three games.
• 14:21
  Speaker 7: It wasn't you hitting the buttons. I think he came
• 14:23
  Speaker 7: with a glitch. If he glitches out, they're in trouble.
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  Speaker 4: Charlotte's got a tough... ECU has an easier American Conference schedule.
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  Speaker 4: ECU plays less of the teams at the top of
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: the conference. ECU is a team that is picked by
• 14:37
  Speaker 4: most outlets to be top five in the conference. Charlotte,
• 14:41
  Speaker 4: I mean.
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  Speaker 5: My God, I hope Gonzalez can play. But the problem is,
• 14:46
  Speaker 5: you've got to ask, does Gonzalez have a running game
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  Speaker 5: around him this year that's better? Does he get more
• 14:50
  Speaker 5: support around him? ECU bone lost so many damn players
• 14:55
  Speaker 5: to the Power Four. I think it's like 10. If
• 14:58
  Speaker 5: they would have brought everybody back, I swear ECU could
• 15:02
  Speaker 5: win the American and be in the playoff. The problem
• 15:05
  Speaker 5: is that's a fantasy world. We don't live in a
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  Speaker 5: time where ECU can have that many good players, Bone,
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  Speaker 5: like Hauser and everybody else, Lyman, Poku, McCrimmon, all those guys.
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  Speaker 5: They can't have Peek or McCrimmon. Oh, yeah, Peek's state
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  Speaker 5: went to South Carolina. My God, I'm losing my mind.
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  Speaker 5: But anyway, you get the point, Boney. They lost so
• 15:25
  Speaker 5: many studs from last year. Smith in the receiving core.
• 15:29
  Speaker 5: But they brought in a ton. I was surprised Emery
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: Williams didn't win the job. So Mitch Griffiths has, like,
• 15:39
  Speaker 5: I don't love Mitch Griffiths.
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  Speaker 7: In a different era where you could bring your own
• 15:43
  Speaker 7: guys back more when you're at a program like East Carolina, Alabama.
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: I do think, would be on upset alert this weekend.
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  Speaker 4: We'd be thinking, wow. If they had all those guys back,
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: are you kidding me?
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  Speaker 7: Game one, we'd be thinking, oh, can ECU go in
• 15:55
  Speaker 7: there and pull off a miracle-type win? Now it doesn't
• 15:59
  Speaker 7: seem possible, but there is an era of college football
• 16:02
  Speaker 7: where that would be– a game people are saying, look.
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: Out for that. But not right now.
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: Not to depress ECU fans. They're like, oh, yeah, we know.
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: We had a bunch of good players. But Blake Carroll's 14-5.
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: Blake Carroll turned him around, Bone, when he took over
• 16:15
  Speaker 5: the job midseason. I think he's the goods. Jordan Davis
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: is the OC who is, I mean, very impressive, Bone.
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: He was the OC at North Texas. Video game offense. So, like,
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: I know they lost Baker, but I'm intrigued by Jordan Davis.
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: And ECU's schedule, Bone, is a real favorable one. I
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: feel like with all the uncertainty, I still think that
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: can be an eight. Could they win nine? I think ECU-Bone, well,
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: Pirate-Bone said it all offseason. You think they can have
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: the most wins in the state? It was between them
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: and NC State. So now I'm thinking, you might be right.
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: I said, oh, no, it's going to be the Wolfpack.
• 16:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 16:56
  Speaker 7: Also, you might be right. What about the Gamecocks? I've
• 16:58
  Speaker 7: got them winning every single game.
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: What's that? ECU-Win or Gamecocks-Win at every single game? Yeah,
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: Gamecocks are not winning.
• 17:04
  Speaker 7: We didn't even get into it. No, I've got the
• 17:05
  Speaker 7: Gamecocks at a conservative 10 here, I think.
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: Ten wins? Got them at nine, but there's some toss-ups
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: in there as well. Even nine wins. They did that
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: a couple years ago. It's not insane.
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: But how many times do they win nine games? My
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: feeling is a couple years ago was a special year.
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: That defense was special. Kent State, win. Towson, win. Mississippi State, win. Bama,
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: I'll be nice.
• 17:34
  Speaker 7: It's a loss. Kentucky win. At Florida win. Tennessee at
• 17:39
  Speaker 7: home win. Oklahoma loss. A & M win. Arkansas win.
• 17:45
  Speaker 7: Georgia loss.
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: Clemson.
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: Win. How many is that? That's nine. That's nine wins. Okay.
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 17:52
  Speaker 7: They can stack up some wins early in the season.
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: At Florida, you have them winning?
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: I don't know if they win that game. I think
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: Summerall's the goods, man. And I think they have so
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: much skill, talent. Florida Mac. Florida Mac.
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: There he is, chomping away. A & M. Chomping away.
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: A & M.
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: They should have beat A & M last year. I
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: don't know.
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: I just think when Gamecock fans start talking playoff, like
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: you guys almost made the playoff a couple years ago.
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: I think that's a dangerous expectation when you look at
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: how difficult the SEC is, as difficult, as loaded as
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: it's ever been depth-wise, and also when you look at
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: the history of the program bone. Like, y'all act like, yeah,
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: we could have a nine-win season for the second time
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: in three years. That's so normal at South Carolina, is it? Like,
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: I think eight would be a great bounce back for Beamer.
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: I really do, man.
• 18:45
  Speaker 7: When we come back, T-Max says the offense is night
• 18:48
  Speaker 7: and day from where it was last year in camp.
• 18:50
  Speaker 7: But do fans believe that side of the ball will
• 18:53
  Speaker 7: be better this season? Mack Bones, Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ.
• 19:15
  Speaker 8: Camp has been good. You know, the offense looks night
• 19:21
  Speaker 8: and day different just from last year, just obviously the pieces.
• 19:25
  Speaker 8: You know, new play caller. You know, things are going
• 19:28
  Speaker 8: really smooth right now.
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: On that part, the night and day difference, how would
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: you say, what would.
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: You say to the students?
• 19:37
  Speaker 8: I'll just, for the most part, you know, a lot
• 19:38
  Speaker 8: more people are stepping up. You know, we have a
• 19:40
  Speaker 8: lot of dudes that can, do a bunch of different
• 19:43
  Speaker 8: things and are able to make plays wherever. You know,
• 19:45
  Speaker 8: we got a deep tight end room, running back room,
• 19:48
  Speaker 8: receiver room, obviously. So everybody can make plays no matter
• 19:52
  Speaker 8: who it is.
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: There you go.
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: That is TMAC yesterday talking after practice about the offense
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: being night and day from where it was last year.
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: Sheena Quick, obviously, with the question. Hey, give us a
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: little more elaboration on this. And as I'm listening to him,
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: I'm thinking. hmm, he's telling us trust, like, he's not
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: saying trust us, but like, in a way, like, do
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: we trust what he's saying, Bone? Do we trust what we've,
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: you know, do fans trust what they've heard about the
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: camp Bryce has had? Or are fans just too damn
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: worried about the offensive line situation? And are fans now
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: negative about this offense? Like, I guess I'll ask the
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: question this way to you, Bone, and all Panther fans
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: out there.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: Do we think....
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: The offense will be better than last year. TMAC's saying, oh,
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: it's night and day. Do you believe when the season's over, Bone,
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: the offense will statistically prove to be better?
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: Yes, you do. For many reasons. I still have faith
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: in the offensive line. Yeah. Look, it's not a finished product.
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: We've talked about that.
• 21:03
  Speaker 7: They're missing their left tackle and right tackle for the
• 21:07
  Speaker 7: last couple years. I trust Walker, and I think free-laying
• 21:10
  Speaker 7: long-term is the real deal. But they're new to their
• 21:14
  Speaker 7: current gigs. The guards have not been healthy. We have
• 21:17
  Speaker 7: to give the offensive line a little bit of time
• 21:21
  Speaker 7: to get some cohesion here before they're a finished product.
• 21:24
  Speaker 7: And I think eventually they'll figure out when other guys
• 21:28
  Speaker 7: come back, what's the best five, what's the rotation. They
• 21:31
  Speaker 7: will figure that out. And I do think... It's like
• 21:35
  Speaker 7: doing the play calling Daryl Bevel being involved. I think
• 21:38
  Speaker 7: that it will be a more streamlined operation with the
• 21:42
  Speaker 7: offensive play calling, whereas they get used to each other
• 21:46
  Speaker 7: and they go into the season more and more. I
• 21:48
  Speaker 7: think you're going to start to see the offense in
• 21:49
  Speaker 7: a much better flow. I think you're going to see
• 21:51
  Speaker 7: Canales more comfortable as a head coach. I just think
• 21:54
  Speaker 7: this offense will be better, but we also, and this
• 21:58
  Speaker 7: is a very difficult thing, Mac, with some of the fans.
• 22:01
  Speaker 7: have to have a little bit of patience for it
• 22:03
  Speaker 7: to grow a little bit and let guys.
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: Get used to each other.
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: The bar, by the way, is pretty low, to be
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: completely honest, right?
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: It's like a way low limbo.
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: If you look at statistics last year, how low can
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: you go? 27 in points per game, 27 in yards
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: per game on offense. Panthers were 27 in points per play,
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: 26 in yards per play. Can this offense get to No. 20?
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: I'm not asking Bone for some revolutionary jump. I'm not
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: even asking for the big 16, 17 spot jump the
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: defense made last year. Because I believe this is a
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: team that can be defense first, and I believe they
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: can help the offense. I believe they can put the
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: offense first. in some favorable positions and situations. I believe
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: they can make it so that Bryce and company don't
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: have to score a ton of points in, in a
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: bunch of games to win, but the offense has to
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: get better, man. We hired an offensive head coach. He's
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: got to get better. So the question is, if we
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: feel worse about the offensive line bone just for the
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: time being, because Freeling's a rookie, a talented rookie, but
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: a rookie, I will say I think Rasheed Walker will
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: prove to be a better pass blocker than Icky.
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: It's the run game situation, right?
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: I do, but he's not the run blocker, so it's
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: a give and take there. I do like what you're
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: saying about Idzik. I think Canales was almost taking away
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: from himself as a head coach and a coordinator by
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: doing both in hindsight. I do believe that that's probably
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: the case. So I think you're going to have a
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: focus guy in both those areas. The Daryl Bevel addition
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: I like. I don't know why people, if you're being
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: fair about it, would not think Bryce would make another jump.
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: He has made a jump every year since he has
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: been in the league bone. So I think the question is,
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: how big is that jump? I think T-Mac is in
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: such good shape. I expect him to be better. I
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: think Waller helps his team. And then Brooks is an X.
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: Factor, man. If he can stay healthy.
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: I think the passing game to Brooks, getting him out
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: in space, I think is a dimension that we don't
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: freaking have, man. I think that could be huge. I
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: think they've got to be better. But again, the question is,
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: how much better? But don't you think, Bone, if the
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: defense is 9th, the offense is 20th, Can't that win
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: you the NFC South?
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely.
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: Last year, the defense was 15th. The offense was 27th,
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: and we won the damn NFC South.
• 24:30
  Speaker 7: Mac, you are Numbers McGee over there. Where did the Panthers'
• 24:37
  Speaker 7: offense rank in the red zone last year? Do you
• 24:39
  Speaker 7: have that on top of your head?
• 24:40
  Speaker 8: 14th.
• 24:42
  Speaker 7: I think they're going to be a top 10 red
• 24:43
  Speaker 7: zone offense because they do have a lot of options
• 24:47
  Speaker 7: at the tight end spot. In that Bryce's game, when
• 24:50
  Speaker 7: he moves around in the red zone, guess who's going
• 24:52
  Speaker 7: to be back there now, we hope, is Darren Waller
• 24:55
  Speaker 7: in the back of the end zone, a tall target
• 24:57
  Speaker 7: where Bryce can just throw it up to.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: I think you're going to see Bryce.
• 25:01
  Speaker 7: have a lot of success and a lot of touchdown
• 25:03
  Speaker 7: passes in the red zone this year.
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: I think they're going to be a really good red
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: zone offense this year.
• 25:07
  Speaker 7: I mean, Waller averaged... TMAC is in the red zone.
• 25:09
  Speaker 7: I think there's going to be a lot of guys
• 25:10
  Speaker 7: that throw two in the red zone.
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: Waller averaged two touchdowns every three games he played last year.
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: Only played nine, but that's a hell of an average.
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: Then you throw in TMAC.
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: TMAC started slow with the touchdowns, but ended up with seven,
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: and all seven of those were in the last ten games.
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: To your point about T-Mac. So, yeah, can you get
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: in the top 10? You were 14th last year. I
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: think turnovers, last year we were 25th in giveaways a game.
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: Can we get that number down? And I think how
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: much of that was in the first two games? We
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: had a horrible start with turnovers. Can we protect the
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: football better?
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: I think we can.
• 25:45
  Speaker 7: Here's one area they have to improve, and again, I'm
• 25:47
  Speaker 7: throwing out numbers to Numbers McGee, so this can always
• 25:51
  Speaker 7: backfire that he has different numbers. But right here, I'm
• 25:54
  Speaker 7: reading the Panthers were 36.4% on third down last year,
• 25:58
  Speaker 7: 25th in the league. That's another number that has to get.
• 26:01
  Speaker 7: I mean, look, to say they'd be top 10 for
• 26:04
  Speaker 7: that's insane. But can they get out of that middle
• 26:07
  Speaker 7: of the tier range on third down? They got to
• 26:09
  Speaker 7: move the chains. They have to move the chains better.
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: And to do that, they've got to get themselves boned
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: into better third down situations, more manageable third downs. Like,
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: I look at the running game, too. Last year, Bone,
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: 20th in yards per game, 19th in yards per carry.
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: Can they make a jump from that? Like, you know
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: Canales wants to run the ball. Now, I would argue
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: there are some games, Bone, where he loses the plot
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: and gets frustrated, oh, we can't run it, and doesn't
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: stick with it enough. But I know at his heart
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: he wants to run the football. Chuba and Brooks, they've
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: got to stay healthy. Can that run game at least
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: get to top half of the league? It wasn't that
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: far away last year.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: It was inconsistent.
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: It was amazing during the Rico run, but other than that,
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: it was inconsistent. I just think the run game, the
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: defense can help Bryce, can help the O-tackles, or can
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: help Freeling when it comes to pass protection if he
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: can run it. This, to me, will be a better offense,
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: but how much better?
• 27:12
  Speaker 7: Also, Cadalus, let's also make sure that You stick with
• 27:16
  Speaker 7: that run also. Let's make sure that you stay consistent
• 27:20
  Speaker 7: with that, all right?
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: Definitely. I know he's not listening. I'm talking to him.
• 27:22
  Speaker 6: Oh, he is.
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: He's taking notes right now during this whole segment. Him
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: and Brad Edzik sitting around taking notes. You see people
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: listen to us like that. They think, well, that's a
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: good idea. Clearly.
• 27:29
  Speaker 7: Right now, Canales is like, Bone just told me to
• 27:32
  Speaker 7: throw the ball to Waller in the red zone.
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: Well, you know what?
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: Sometimes I don't know what we see here. I'm afraid
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: to look at the text line. I'm looking at the
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: text line now because TMAC is telling us, y'all, this
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: offense is night and day in a good way from
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: where it was last year.
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: But I don't know if the fans believe in this offense.
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: This dude said, didn't the first string offense suck all preseason?
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: One touchdown and five drives in the preseason games. A
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: bad start, a good finish against Jacksonville in the joint practice.
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: A horrible day against Houston in the joint practice. But
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: I don't, you know, there are a lot of signs, Bone,
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: that I think could point to an improvement. 704, 570, 9610.
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: Brooks and Jimmy Horn are the X factors. AC says,
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: where's he at here? Surely one of the 12 tight
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: ends the Panthers kept on the roster will be effective
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: in the red zone.
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: Hey, if you have 12 tight ends, it's got to
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: mean something, right? I don't know.
• 28:31
  Speaker 7: It may not be a good thing for the tight
• 28:33
  Speaker 7: end group, but we have 12 of them. Mack, the
• 28:35
  Speaker 7: Kate McQueen point about Jimmy Horn is a good one because, well,
• 28:39
  Speaker 7: I don't think Jimmy Horn may be a huge numbers guy.
• 28:42
  Speaker 7: To me, he's one of those players where it's about
• 28:45
  Speaker 7: how big is the play.
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: Does he have... He's got to give us big plays.
• 28:49
  Speaker 7: Does he have one sort of gadget play where that
• 28:51
  Speaker 7: goes for 25 yards, 30 yards? He gives the offense
• 28:55
  Speaker 7: something that they don't have, and that's the element of
• 28:58
  Speaker 7: surprise when it comes to Jimmy Horn. So if he
• 29:01
  Speaker 7: has one catch for 42 yards, to me, that's important
• 29:04
  Speaker 7: for this team.
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: Or the return.
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: Could have a return for 27 yards. I also think, Bone,
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: he can be used in– I mean, I've completely become
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: a member of the Horn section.
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: I've completely— The horndogs. I've completely— Welcome, Mac. We meet
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: on Tuesdays. There you go. That, too.
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: I was very skeptical, Bone, of Jimmy Horn coming in
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: the season. He has won me over in the preseason.
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: I think you're seeing a guy run better routes all around,
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: and I do think you're right.
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: I want to see him in the run game.
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: I saw a wide receiver screen in that last preseason
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: game where he just— got his way in there for
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: 12 yards. Now, Ty has committed a penalty on the play,
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: but I'm telling you, I think Jimmy Horne If XL
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: ain't ready to take the third receiver job, I honestly
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: wonder if Jimmy Horn can. That's how impressed I was
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: with his preseason. So he's definitely an X factor. Let's
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: see what some of the texters are saying here. This
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: texter says, unbelievable. You guys think Bryce is the franchise
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: tight end and Mac is begging to have a number
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: 20 offense in the league.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Franchise QB, you mean.
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: Franchise QB. What'd I say?
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: You said franchise tight end.
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: What do y'all think about that? Mack wants to move
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: to tight end. Is that a knock on Bryce Young
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: if they have the 20th best offense? Are you paying?
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: I'm just trying to be realistic. No, I don't think so.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: It's such a nuanced conversation, man.
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: And you are Captain Nuance.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: I'm counting a lot of things around here.
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: No, I'm sorry. Go ahead. I think you're headed in
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: a good direction here. I think Finney's going to make
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: a salient point here. Yeah, go ahead.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: Because, Mac, if you're paying– the offense is 20th in
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: the National Football League. That means it's not even the
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: top half in the league.
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: On paper, do you pay a quarterback?
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Do you invest in a quarterback that can't even engineer
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: a top half– of an offense in the National Football League.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: But to your point, if this is a defensive, first-minded
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: football team, which I think that's their strength as of
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: right now, and their defense maybe is what carries them
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: to 9 to 10 wins, and they repeat as division champs,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: how do you not pay that guy? Because to this point,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: at this point in his career, Bryce Young is a
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: game-managing quarterback. He's not a game changer. He's a game manager.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: If he's managing the games and they're winning the games
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: that they're supposed to win.
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: There's something to be said for that, right?
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: Like you're paying a quarterback that has proven he can
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: win games late. If he were to take us to
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: the playoffs back-to-back years, and it's working, and the offense
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: is incrementally improving.
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: I know 20th is not, you know what I mean?
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: Again, I'm not saying, Bone, that is my Canales-era endgame goal.
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: Just get to 20. It's got to get better. You've
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: got an offensive head coach. But if the defense is– man,
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: complimentary football. If we play good enough complimentary football, and
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: Bryce makes another improvement this year– And we're in the playoffs.
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: I mean, how do you... You're paying for the continuity
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: with Bryce Young? You're paying for not going back out
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: there into the quarterback abyss?
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: You know who would scare me the most?
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: I would be worried, does your owner... And I know
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: David Tepper's taking a step back.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: But does he get QB....
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: And tell Dan and Dave, we've got a great thing here.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: But if we elevate this position, we can go get
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: a championship.
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  Speaker 4: It is a tantalizing conversation.
• 32:43
  Speaker 6: Tantalizing.
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: Whatever that word is I'm trying to say. That's a
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: tantalizing conversation. That's a big old 25-cent word I tried
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: to sneak up on. Robert Mays of The Athletic said
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: that made the point. He thinks that the Panthers could
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: have a season where you look at everybody and say, man,
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: if they make a bowl QB move, they could be
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: a contender. And all is to be seen. Let's let's
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: let the season play out. Let's evaluate it. I if
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: they get to 10 wins bone and win a playoff
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: and win the division and win a playoff game. Based
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: on where we've been, I think we're going to be
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: feeling pretty good. But there is something to be said
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: to the point a lot of people are making about Bryce.
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: It's a fascinating conversation. I have a feeling, Bone, it's
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: not going away.
• 33:27
  Speaker 7: When we come back, a guy we're excited about is
• 33:29
  Speaker 7: Panthers rookie Aaron Hall.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: He made the team out of Duke.
• 33:34
  Speaker 7: We're going to talk to him next, get to know
• 33:35
  Speaker 7: him a little bit about his journey and so much more.
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: Aaron's next on Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ. Mack and Bone with you. So
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: you know we got football fever, baby. You know we
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: got it. Way more college football conversation. Week one starts tonight.
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: Wakes in action against Akron. We're going to be doing
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: our predictions. I'm sure, Bone, these will be great in
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: the 8 o'clock hour. who wins the title, who's the
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: final four in the playoff, who wins the ACC, the SEC,
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: the Heisman. We'll do that as a show and get
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: you guys involved in the 8 o'clock hour. I do
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: need to mention at 8 o'clock, we've got some of
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: our friends here from the Hornets. We've got a big
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: announcement coming up at 8 o'clock, so we're looking forward
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: to that. And we've got an awesome giveaway that the
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: Hornets are– Hornet's given out some amazing prizes to one
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: lucky fan today on this show.
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: So stay tuned.
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: That's a definite mm-hmm, isn't it?
• 34:47
  Speaker 7: I think that might work. I think that might be
• 34:48
  Speaker 7: your thing. That's my new way of not interrupting Mac.
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: I think I like that. I like that.
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: So anyway, stay tuned for that coming up at 8 o'clock.
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: We'll tell you how to win. We're going to tell
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: you what you have a chance to win. from the Hornets.
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: But right now, though, we're going to talk to a
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: guy that I think we're all happy for, man. A
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: guy that was undrafted out of Duke. A guy, Bone,
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: I know is a Duke fan. You pulled for big
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: time and he made a bunch of big plays for
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: your Blue Devils. And now he is on the 53-man
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: roster as an undrafted rookie. And Dan Morgan could not
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: say enough nice things about him in the presser this week.
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: He is Aaron Hall, defensive end for the Carolina Panthers,
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: and he joins us here on the Mac and Bone Show.
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: Aaron, what's going on, man? How you doing?
• 35:38
  Speaker 6: What's up, man? What's up, bro? How you guys doing?
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: What's up, man? Dude, we're doing great. We're not doing
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: as good as you, man.
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: I mean, for you to make this roster in your
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: rookie year, like, truth be told, you were one of
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: the undrafted guys who we knew about and who we said, man,
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: this guy could be a factor. But I think we wondered, oh,
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: will he be on the practice squad, you know, right away?
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: You jumped on that roster right away.
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: Did you surprise yourself, or did you sign with the
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: Panthers and believe in my mind, I'm going to be
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: on that opening day roster?
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, absolutely. When you sign, the first thing
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: you tell yourself is your goal is to make the roster.
• 36:17
  Speaker 6: I mean, nobody comes into the NFL hoping to be
• 36:19
  Speaker 6: on a practice squad. You want to make the roster.
• 36:21
  Speaker 6: You want to make an impact on that field. But
• 36:24
  Speaker 6: I think most importantly, I just came in here and
• 36:26
  Speaker 6: I just put my head down every day, take it
• 36:28
  Speaker 6: one day at a time. I didn't try to look
• 36:29
  Speaker 6: forward to that moment of making a roster, making practice squad,
• 36:32
  Speaker 6: because in the truth be told, it's just too far ahead.
• 36:35
  Speaker 6: It kind of takes away from your focus from OTAs
• 36:37
  Speaker 6: and from camp, gaining your trust of your teammates and
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: your coaches.
• 36:42
  Speaker 7: Aaron, you kind of have a crazy bio when we
• 36:44
  Speaker 7: read it now because there are times we look at
• 36:46
  Speaker 7: players and they'll have three or four schools that they
• 36:50
  Speaker 7: went to, but you were at Duke the whole way through.
• 36:53
  Speaker 7: You stuck it out. You stayed there all conference. What
• 36:56
  Speaker 7: does that mean for you in this day and age that, hey,
• 36:58
  Speaker 7: you were at one school the entire time and not
• 37:02
  Speaker 7: all these multiple schools?
• 37:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think if anything, it just shows the perseverance
• 37:07
  Speaker 6: of my character. Because if we're going to be honest here,
• 37:10
  Speaker 6: the way college football, the game that it's become, it
• 37:14
  Speaker 6: can be quite easy to change schools sometimes when you
• 37:16
  Speaker 6: look at the factor of money, when you look at
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: the factor of playing time, or what type of team
• 37:20
  Speaker 6: you're trying to build there just off of the other
• 37:23
  Speaker 6: factors that you have. But I think at the end
• 37:24
  Speaker 6: all be all, I continue to have great coaches to
• 37:27
  Speaker 6: come into the Duke facility. continue to raise me as
• 37:30
  Speaker 6: a growing man. I continue to have a great group
• 37:32
  Speaker 6: of brothers around me, guys like the Dwayne Carters that
• 37:35
  Speaker 6: need peoples, the Jamie on Franklin's, um, who just continue
• 37:38
  Speaker 6: to pour into me as a football player. And then
• 37:40
  Speaker 6: the different position coaches with coach Jess Simpson, uh, coach
• 37:44
  Speaker 6: Alex Devine and coach of Fontaine. I mean, having that
• 37:47
  Speaker 6: group of individuals around you with the pair strength coach
• 37:50
  Speaker 6: of David Seeley, there was no reason to ever leave.
• 37:52
  Speaker 6: I knew everything I ever needed. I was going to
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: be at Duke university.
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: Now it, Now, Aaron, I need to ask you to
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: make sure. You're not going to leave the Panthers and
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: join Lane Kiffin at LSU, are you?
• 38:02
  Speaker 6: You're good? No, absolutely not.
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: Just making sure. Just making sure.
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: Let's talk about the Panthers and the team that you
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: are on now. There's an opportunity. I mean, for all
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: you young– it's so many young guys. It's Derrick Brown,
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: Bobby Brown. And the other four of you guys, interior
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: D linemen, are all young, right? It's rookies. It's second-year guys.
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: There's an opportunity to get some snaps there. What do
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: you think about the defensive front? And what do you
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: think you guys can accomplish up front on this defense
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: this year?
• 38:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think we're a violent, we're a physical group.
• 38:42
  Speaker 6: I think every day the leader of the room, Derrick Brown,
• 38:45
  Speaker 6: he just comes in and challenges every day to do
• 38:47
  Speaker 6: things right, to take the hard route on things, to
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: come in and just be keyed into details. It's something
• 38:53
  Speaker 6: that he told me a lot coming into this process
• 38:56
  Speaker 6: and just throughout OTAs and camp was to see a little,
• 38:58
  Speaker 6: to see a lot. And by saying that, that's the
• 39:01
  Speaker 6: way you guys see him make plays on Sunday when,
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: I mean, he's just at the ball in the backfield
• 39:06
  Speaker 6: or reading pass plays before you guys know they're there.
• 39:08
  Speaker 6: And so... with his teachings and with the way he
• 39:11
  Speaker 6: just commands his D-line room, I think there's a lot
• 39:13
  Speaker 6: that we can accomplish in there this year.
• 39:15
  Speaker 7: Aaron, you're so well-liked right now on our text line.
• 39:18
  Speaker 7: Even Tar Heel fans are saying, hey, this guy's awesome.
• 39:20
  Speaker 6: Oh, wow.
• 39:21
  Speaker 7: That's big. You've done that rare thing. You've crossed over
• 39:24
  Speaker 7: right now, Aaron. So congrats on that. What are some
• 39:28
  Speaker 7: of your interests outside of football? What do you like
• 39:30
  Speaker 7: to do when you're not playing?
• 39:32
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think a big thing I like to do
• 39:33
  Speaker 6: is cook. I mean, I'm a defensive lineman. I like
• 39:35
  Speaker 6: to eat. But I was in a household where I
• 39:39
  Speaker 6: was blessed to have both parents in the house. And
• 39:41
  Speaker 6: that's just all glory to God, understanding how some situations
• 39:44
  Speaker 6: end up in the world. But I was one of
• 39:46
  Speaker 6: those places where I wanted to play the game all day.
• 39:48
  Speaker 6: And my dad was like, hey, man, get downstairs and
• 39:50
  Speaker 6: help your mom cook. And so I was always in
• 39:52
  Speaker 6: there learning recipes, experimenting with stuff, just helping her. I
• 39:57
  Speaker 6: like being on the grill. Sometimes I like doing artistic work,
• 40:00
  Speaker 6: a lot of sipping paints with the fiance. So I
• 40:03
  Speaker 6: think that's kind of more of my speed, but I'm
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: not too much of an outgoing person. Sometimes I like
• 40:06
  Speaker 6: to travel a little bit.
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: You're talented, though.
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: Cooking and arts, you've got talents all over the football field.
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: You're doing stuff we can't dream of. So what are
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: your go-to dishes? Like if you really, you and your
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: fiance are hanging out, and you're like, I've got to
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: make a killer dinner tonight.
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: What's one or two of your go-tos?
• 40:25
  Speaker 6: I have to make a killer dinner. I think I'm
• 40:26
  Speaker 6: going to go with– I'll start with the vegetable first.
• 40:28
  Speaker 6: I'm going to go red cabbage for sure. Red cabbage
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: is up there. I think I'm going to go baked
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: mac and cheese. Nice. For green, we're probably going to
• 40:37
  Speaker 6: go with like a sauteed asparagus probably. And then for protein,
• 40:42
  Speaker 6: I mean, I think it depends. We could do a
• 40:44
  Speaker 6: stuffed chicken. We can definitely do some grilled steak. We
• 40:48
  Speaker 6: can do– There's a good amount of things. We can
• 40:53
  Speaker 6: definitely do a style of salmon, more so not heavily flavored,
• 41:00
  Speaker 6: but more like the lemon and herb side of salmon.
• 41:03
  Speaker 6: We can definitely do a lot of things on the
• 41:04
  Speaker 6: protein side, but I think the baked mac and cheese
• 41:06
  Speaker 6: and the red cabbages Those are definitely the two things
• 41:09
  Speaker 6: that I lean towards.
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: Man, you are versatile. We get an invite or what?
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: When are we coming over?
• 41:14
  Speaker 6: Just let me know whenever you guys want to come down. Oh, man.
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: I'm getting hungry now, though.
• 41:19
  Speaker 7: One of our texters says, Aaron's throwing out words that
• 41:21
  Speaker 7: even Bone doesn't know half those words.
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right. I have to look up some of
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: those things. I love it, man.
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: Hey, what's Derrick Brown like in that locker room? We
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: were talking about him the other day, Aaron. He is
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: such an awesome leader, and I'm saying this as a
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: fan and a media guy. What he says publicly, the
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: clips from the locker room the Panthers share, I'm like,
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: that dude's a leader.
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: But you see it every day. What does he do
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: to be a leader behind the scenes every day?
• 41:50
  Speaker 6: I think the biggest thing is he's the same guy
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: every day, in and out. He doesn't say anything to
• 41:56
  Speaker 6: you guys and then come do something differently with us.
• 41:59
  Speaker 6: Everything that you guys hear is everything that we hear.
• 42:02
  Speaker 6: So I think the biggest thing is just his consistency.
• 42:04
  Speaker 6: He's going to be the same person every day. uh
• 42:07
  Speaker 6: in and out and then he also takes that on
• 42:08
  Speaker 6: the field derrick brown isn't somebody who comes out and
• 42:11
  Speaker 6: there's like one mistake this day and another mistake this
• 42:13
  Speaker 6: day i mean it's just down the line consistently with
• 42:16
  Speaker 6: his technique with his play style uh with with how
• 42:19
  Speaker 6: much he wants to get better and so at the
• 42:21
  Speaker 6: end of the day i think that's what i can
• 42:23
  Speaker 6: ask for that's what anybody can ask for when you
• 42:25
  Speaker 6: need a leader on the defense side of the ball
• 42:27
  Speaker 6: especially in the d-line room um where it's up to
• 42:29
  Speaker 6: those guys up front to dominate in order to win games.
• 42:32
  Speaker 7: Hey, Aaron, before we let you go, we were just
• 42:34
  Speaker 7: talking Duke in a previous segment. How good of hands
• 42:37
  Speaker 7: is that program in right now with Manny Diaz at
• 42:40
  Speaker 7: the helm?
• 42:41
  Speaker 6: Oh, it's in excellent hands. I think you guys have
• 42:43
  Speaker 6: seen the work that he's been able to accomplish in
• 42:46
  Speaker 6: his past two years there. Last year, I mean, we
• 42:49
  Speaker 6: go to the ACC Championship and we went against Virginia,
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: who ended up beating us in the season. They kind
• 42:55
  Speaker 6: of knocked us off of that reign that we were
• 42:57
  Speaker 6: on to go. And so, I mean, I think you
• 43:00
  Speaker 6: guys have seen what he's able to do. We're in
• 43:02
  Speaker 6: excellent hands. And that just... It also just comes down
• 43:04
  Speaker 6: to his staff. We talk about at Duke, there's only
• 43:07
  Speaker 6: one type of culture of people that you meet around there.
• 43:10
  Speaker 6: And at the end of the day, Coach Diaz has
• 43:13
  Speaker 6: done that exceptionally well in terms of his staff and
• 43:15
  Speaker 6: his players. And so when you have guys like David Feely,
• 43:17
  Speaker 6: who's the strength coach, and that's somebody who's going to
• 43:20
  Speaker 6: push you every day, no matter what it is. He
• 43:22
  Speaker 6: doesn't care if you squatted 500 pounds the day before
• 43:25
  Speaker 6: or bench-pressed 350 the day before. You're going to get
• 43:28
  Speaker 6: the same guy who's going to push you the same
• 43:30
  Speaker 6: way the next day. And you have just the position
• 43:32
  Speaker 6: coaches around you who push you every day to be better.
• 43:34
  Speaker 6: I mean, there's just never a place for complacency in
• 43:36
  Speaker 6: the building. And so they're in great hands with him.
• 43:39
  Speaker 6: And I think he'll just continue to show how excellent
• 43:42
  Speaker 6: the program is in these next years that he's here.
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: That's cool, man. All right, Aaron.
• 43:45
  Speaker 7: You became a fan favorite instantly today. People want to
• 43:48
  Speaker 7: buy your jersey. They want you to have your own
• 43:49
  Speaker 7: cooking show.
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: This is better.
• 43:51
  Speaker 6: I'm glad you guys had me up here. Hey, man.
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: It was great chatting with you. Now we're all hungry.
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: But thanks for coming on, man.
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: Stay healthy. Best of luck this year, man. Appreciate you.
• 44:03
  Speaker 6: Thank you very much. You guys have a wonderful day.
• 44:05
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: There you go. Aaron Hall, your Carolina Panthers. Cool guy, man.
• 44:09
  Speaker 7: What an awesome guy he is. How do you not
• 44:11
  Speaker 7: root for that guy, man? Do you want to go
• 44:14
  Speaker 7: on a spiel about Duke? That is the type of
• 44:17
  Speaker 7: man that Duke produces. No, no. Obviously, his upbringing and
• 44:21
  Speaker 7: his parents did an unbelievable job.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: 100%.
• 44:22
  Speaker 7: And then maybe Duke took him to the next level
• 44:25
  Speaker 7: after that, right? He did spend a lot of time
• 44:27
  Speaker 7: at Duke, by the way. More so than both. He
• 44:30
  Speaker 7: spent five years at Duke. How many players, Mac, spent
• 44:32
  Speaker 7: five years at Duke? Basketball players spend about five months there.
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: The thing that caught a lot of people's ear was
• 44:39
  Speaker 5: this dude plays in the trenches, and he's all about
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: some red cabbage and asparagus.
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: Some people think he's going to out-talk J.J. Jansen at
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: some point.
• 44:48
  Speaker 6: Oh, man!
• 44:49
  Speaker 7: This guy needs his own radio show. Move over, J.J.
• 44:52
  Speaker 7: There's a new talker in town. They got so many
• 44:55
  Speaker 7: dudes over there that are like that, man.
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: They really do.
• 44:58
  Speaker 7: When we come back, we have a special announcement, Mac,
• 45:01
  Speaker 7: involving the Charlotte Hornets. We're going to have some guests
• 45:04
  Speaker 7: in studio. We'll tell you what that announcement is as
• 45:07
  Speaker 7: well as a really cool prize giveaway you got to
• 45:10
  Speaker 7: get in for on Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.