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  Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to foul Territory. I'm Heidi Watney. I'm
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  Speaker 1: mean for Stott Braun today, amocrats Aj Prasinski. You guys
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  Speaker 1: are going to be leading the way today because this
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  Speaker 1: is my maiden voyage on foul Territory. How do you
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  Speaker 1: guys feel about carrying the show?
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  Speaker 2: Easy?
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  Speaker 3: And we can't hear a j he's muted. So since
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  Speaker 3: he's back, he's back.
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  Speaker 2: You know, like Heidi shirt, Montreal has n't been the
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  Speaker 2: same without the expos Quick pitch hasn't been the same
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  Speaker 2: without Heidi. I'm not gonna lie, I haven't watched it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, thank you. I appreciate that it was a great show.
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  Speaker 1: Miss the show good times. The White Sox haven't been
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  Speaker 1: the same without you either, A So.
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  Speaker 2: I mean that's like that, that's way more of an understatement.
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  Speaker 2: And quick pitch do you trust me?
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  Speaker 1: That's true? That's true?
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  Speaker 4: How you guys?
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  Speaker 1: Where are you joining us from?
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  Speaker 2: I am at a golf course down in South Florida
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  Speaker 2: called Grove twenty three. I am in the conference room.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm there's a guy that owns Oh no, there's
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  Speaker 2: people coming in. There's a guy named Michael Jordan that
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  Speaker 2: owns this place. I don't know if you guys ever
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  Speaker 2: heard of him, so I'm trying to. I'm on the
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  Speaker 2: download down here.
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  Speaker 1: We're name dropping, like sixty seconds into the show. I
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  Speaker 1: love it.
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  Speaker 2: AJ listen my day.
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  Speaker 3: Listen.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to say this my I don't want to
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  Speaker 2: say my life was made. My day was made today though,
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  Speaker 2: when I saw MJ and he said, hey, I listened
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  Speaker 2: to you on the playoffs. You did awesome, Like it's
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  Speaker 2: hard to when the goat says that to you. It's
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  Speaker 2: really hard to have a bad day, right, like when
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  Speaker 2: you haven't seen him for a while and that's what
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  Speaker 2: he says to you. It's really hard to have a
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  Speaker 2: bad day.
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  Speaker 1: That's amazing. I take two things from that. First of all,
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  Speaker 1: you did a great job in the playoffs, and that
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  Speaker 1: he's watching, which is great.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: I know he's a basic right, yes, So sorry sorry
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  Speaker 2: if I named her, but I mean that made me
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  Speaker 2: feel happy. So we're always looking for positives on the show. God,
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  Speaker 2: it's a positive.
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  Speaker 1: Anytime you run into MJ. You can name Jock Eric
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  Speaker 1: anything with your day? Did did like Derek Jeter have
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  Speaker 1: coffee with you? This morning?
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  Speaker 3: I took a walk with my wife and I tried
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  Speaker 3: to fix my mower. That was fun.
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  Speaker 2: What's a mower? What's a like a what kind of
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  Speaker 2: more like a manscaper? Or are we talking like a lawnmower?
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  Speaker 3: Talking about a push lawn mulching? More? I got leaves.
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  Speaker 3: I got leaves, so I got to pick the leaves up.
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  Speaker 3: I mulch them, and then I put them in a
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  Speaker 3: pile and then I make some nice leaf mulch out
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  Speaker 3: of it. It's tremendous. It's nothing you would know about.
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  Speaker 3: Nothing you would know about the.
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  Speaker 1: East Coast with leaves this time of year. Don't even
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  Speaker 1: want to go there. All right, we're just going to
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  Speaker 1: jump right into it right now. We are. Let's charge
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  Speaker 1: the mountain guys about all right, We've got the MVP
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  Speaker 1: of War winners being announced tonight. We're going to start
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  Speaker 1: in the American League here because this is going to
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  Speaker 1: be the race that everyone is talking about. It's really
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  Speaker 1: coming down to a two man race. Aaron Judge cal Rawley.
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  Speaker 1: I want to know. I think I know, being former catchers,
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  Speaker 1: who you two are going to pick, But who do
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  Speaker 1: you think is going to actually win the award? AJ
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  Speaker 1: We'll start with you.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, I hope cal Rawley wins, but he's not. So
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  Speaker 2: Aaron Judge is going to win just because he's Aaron
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  Speaker 2: Judge and he had an awesome year and he's deserving
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  Speaker 2: as cal Rawly is. But I really want cal Rawly
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  Speaker 2: to win just for Catchers all over the world, Like
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  Speaker 2: I need Catcher. I need more Catcher love. Okay, more
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  Speaker 2: Catcher love please from people.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we definitely need we need cal to win it,
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  Speaker 3: not only because I put a little lager down when
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  Speaker 3: Aj told me he was going to win it right
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  Speaker 3: before maybe before even half, like the beginning of June,
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  Speaker 3: and I was like, yeah, I need so I need
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  Speaker 3: that to win today, So that would be huge. But
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  Speaker 3: like Brent Rookers said Friend of the Show, he said,
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  Speaker 3: you know what, whoever wins, it's okay, Like you don't.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be East Coast bias. It doesn't
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  Speaker 3: have to be Aaron Judge fatigue. It can just be
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  Speaker 3: whoever wins. Let's look just at what they did because
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  Speaker 3: both guys. Whoever becomes an MVP, it's gonna be historical
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  Speaker 3: and we need to we need to celebrate it. And
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  Speaker 3: Brent Rooker let everybody know he's really good and letting
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  Speaker 3: everybody know. And I'm sure he got a lot of
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  Speaker 3: hate from Mariners fans, and I'm sure because he's in
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  Speaker 3: their division. And I'm sure he got a lot of
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  Speaker 3: hate from Yankees fans because he's not on their team.
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  Speaker 2: And that's what Yankee fans do. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yankees fans love to just hate on anyone. Look,
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  Speaker 1: I covered both of them this year. I interviewed both
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  Speaker 1: of them. Aaron Judge Aaron Boone said, he plays in
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  Speaker 1: a different league. He's just that much better offensively than
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  Speaker 1: anyone else. He led all of baseball and average opp slugging,
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  Speaker 1: ops and war and a lot of the voters. The
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  Speaker 1: voters are writers, and what are the writers look at?
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  Speaker 1: The writers are going to look at stats. Judges wore
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  Speaker 1: nine point seven, Raleigh seven point three. But I think,
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  Speaker 1: like heart of heart, I'm with you, guys. Cal is
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  Speaker 1: a switch hitting catcher who had a season for the
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  Speaker 1: Ages sixty home runs while being behind the plate for
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  Speaker 1: almost every single game. I know he DHD some, but
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  Speaker 1: he leads that pitching staff, and that pitching staff is
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  Speaker 1: why the Mariners are in the postseason, right, It.
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  Speaker 2: Just doesn't matter. That's a matter of Heidi, because you know,
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  Speaker 2: the voters are like, oh, a Rod Wants won the
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  Speaker 2: MVP and the last place team, but he had the
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  Speaker 2: best stats. Like No, that's where that's where the value
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  Speaker 2: of MVP versus best player come into because for me,
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  Speaker 2: cal Rawley's MVP because he caught every day nothing against
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  Speaker 2: Aaron Judge. I love Aaron Judge. I think he's awesome,
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  Speaker 2: great for the game, and one of the best players
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  Speaker 2: in baseball, top three player in the game. But this year,
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  Speaker 2: one year, Aaron Judge, you can have it again next year,
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  Speaker 2: But for this one year, cal Rawly did things that
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  Speaker 2: we have never seen. He deserves.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's one of the things that you want
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  Speaker 1: to stay away from is the voter fatigue with Judge
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  Speaker 1: because he is still what he's doing is insane and
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  Speaker 1: that's why he's probably gonna win, and he's doing it
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  Speaker 1: in big market. But I just think you have to
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  Speaker 1: look at the entire position, right. Look, when you look
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  Speaker 1: at show Hey, you don't ignore the fact that he's
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  Speaker 1: hitting and he's pitching, and that's probably why he's going
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  Speaker 1: to win the National League. You can't just just glance
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  Speaker 1: over at the fact that he is the quarterback of
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  Speaker 1: that team.
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  Speaker 3: Right, Eric, one hundred percent. And you know what, if
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  Speaker 3: you go back and I think we've shifted through the years,
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  Speaker 3: like there was years where you know, they went back
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  Speaker 3: and created the war for players, and there's a lot
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  Speaker 3: of guys that didn't have even close to this war
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  Speaker 3: as the top war person who didn't even win MVP.
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  Speaker 3: So I think throughout the years will shift and everything
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  Speaker 3: will change. But I love that. I love that comparison
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  Speaker 3: that he just made Heidi with the fact that show
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  Speaker 3: hey incredible DH when he did last year just at DH. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: he earned the MVP because it was historic. The fact
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  Speaker 3: that he's pitching and hitting now, I don't see how
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  Speaker 3: anybody else could win it. The fact that cal Raley
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  Speaker 3: has to lead his team. I think he caught one
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  Speaker 3: hundred and twelve games this year and he played one
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  Speaker 3: hundred and fifty six total. Like the fact that he
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  Speaker 3: has to lead his team and be behind the dish
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  Speaker 3: and get no days off. DH is not a day off.
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  Speaker 3: DH is a day to just not catch, but he
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  Speaker 3: has to do it essentially on both sides of the ball,
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  Speaker 3: and it's taking nothing away from judges' outfield. Before his
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  Speaker 3: elbow got hurt, He's one of the best right fielders
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  Speaker 3: in the game, best arm, accurate, all that stuff. When
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  Speaker 3: he got hurt, he essentially gave some of his defense up,
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  Speaker 3: the same thing that happened to Cal. It would not
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  Speaker 3: have been like Cal couldn't have played behind a dish hurt,
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  Speaker 3: so he would have had a just DH and we
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  Speaker 3: wouldn't even be having this conversation, right.
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  Speaker 1: And honestly, most valuable player also most valuable player to
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  Speaker 1: your team. Now, you take either one of those guys
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  Speaker 1: off their teams, they're not making the postseason, so they're
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  Speaker 1: obviously both very valuable. But you take the catcher that
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  Speaker 1: has guided that staff from the time that every single
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  Speaker 1: one of those guys came up, and you take him
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  Speaker 1: off the team. The Mariners aren't winning their first division
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  Speaker 1: title since two thousand and one. And Jose Ramirez the
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  Speaker 1: third guy in this debate. And Jose's like the bridesmaid, right,
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  Speaker 1: He like always the bridesmaid, never the bride. He's in
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  Speaker 1: the MVP conversation every years.
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  Speaker 3: He's just in the He's not even the bridesmaid, He's
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  Speaker 3: just in everybody's wedding. And I think Jose Ramirez, if
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  Speaker 3: you watch him, I think he loves it. I think
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  Speaker 3: he'd be like, h whatever, MVP, it doesn't really matter.
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  Speaker 3: He loves being in everybody's wedding. He's the dude nothing
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  Speaker 3: is expected of and he's just he's there for the party,
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  Speaker 3: He's there for the for the Guardians. He keeps signing
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  Speaker 3: his extensions to stay with the Guardians, like, but he is,
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  Speaker 3: he's legitimately. I have to look at I thought he
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  Speaker 3: had something like six top ten finishes and MVP in
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  Speaker 3: his career already, like, and he just keeps he could
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  Speaker 3: be a forty forty guy. I think it will take
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  Speaker 3: a down year from other guys for him to finally
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  Speaker 3: win it and for him to get exactly to his
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  Speaker 3: forty forty without the last game of the season being canceled. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Thirty home runs, forty four stolen bases this year, one
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  Speaker 1: thirty seven ops plus and he's the heartbeat, like you say,
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  Speaker 1: of that team. And he doesn't seem to mind that
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  Speaker 1: he's not getting the attention of Kal Rowl and Judge.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean, I think we know the outcome tonight,
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  Speaker 1: but this is going to be a race to watch.
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  Speaker 1: This is going to be the closest I think of
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  Speaker 1: all of them.
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  Speaker 2: Let's hope we don't know the outcome, we don't know
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  Speaker 2: the oga.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd be pleasantly surprised.
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  Speaker 2: And meaning, I hope cal Rowly wins, like everything, assuming
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  Speaker 2: Aaron Judge is gonna win. Like, let's hope that kel
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  Speaker 2: Rowly wins, because it gives hope to the smaller people
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  Speaker 2: out there, you know, us catchers, crats. It gives us hope.
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  Speaker 1: All right, some big news from San Diego today. The
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  Speaker 1: Padres have announced through a letter that the Seidler family
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  Speaker 1: is exploring their strategic options, which could result in the
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  Speaker 1: sale of part or all of the team. The announcement
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  Speaker 1: comes one day shi of exactly two years after Peter
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  Speaker 1: Seidler died. Peter Sidler was the heartbeat of this organization
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  Speaker 1: and the team so badly wanted to win the World
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  Speaker 1: so he's even go to the World Series for him.
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  Speaker 1: But it's been a tumultuous time with the ownership group
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  Speaker 1: since he died. I mean, he was the Padres. He's
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  Speaker 1: the reason that they had the Padres and we've heard
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  Speaker 1: a lot, We've heard a lot around the team recently,
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  Speaker 1: so they're going to evaluate the process and the Padres
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  Speaker 1: it looks like might be up for sale. Guys, what's
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  Speaker 1: your reaction to that?
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  Speaker 2: Aja, Okay, if they're not going to spend the way
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  Speaker 2: Peter Syler did, then yeah, sell the team. That's that's
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  Speaker 2: my reaction. That's totally my reactions. Peter Siler wanted the
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  Speaker 2: team to win. He wanted to bring a championship to
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  Speaker 2: San Diego.
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  Speaker 3: He was all in.
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  Speaker 2: Unfortunately he got sick and passed away, which is very sad.
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  Speaker 2: But if the rest of the family doesn't want to
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  Speaker 2: do what he did and sell the team, because somebody
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  Speaker 2: else will do it and the Padres are bowling Hidi.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know when the last time you took Apple
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  Speaker 2: TV to San Diego, because last time I was there,
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  Speaker 2: I saw Apple TV, but it was the other crew.
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  Speaker 2: They sell out every game. The whole area is unbelievable.
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  Speaker 2: They got people up in the high rises, you got
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  Speaker 2: people at the gas loom, you got everybody wearing Padres
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  Speaker 2: here because it's the only team in town. They are
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  Speaker 2: behind this team. If you're not going to try and
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  Speaker 2: compete and spend money and do it right, then sell
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  Speaker 2: the team and move on and get your two billion,
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  Speaker 2: and someone else will take over and try.
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  Speaker 3: For this. I applaud him for saying, you know what
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  Speaker 3: we want to get out, not you know what, this
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  Speaker 3: is making us a lot of money. We'll just kind
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  Speaker 3: of do whatever we do and keep the money and
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  Speaker 3: keep the keep the team rolling. Hopefully it gets in
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  Speaker 3: an ownership group that wants to win a World Series
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  Speaker 3: for the city of San Diego just as bad as
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  Speaker 3: the late Peter Seiler did because he built that he
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  Speaker 3: built this team, He allowed the spending to go ham
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  Speaker 3: because he wanted to win a World Series. That is
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  Speaker 3: all we ever ask, all we ever ask of any
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  Speaker 3: owner is do whatever you could possibly do in your
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  Speaker 3: time as owner to win a World Series because your
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  Speaker 3: fans will forever be behind you. And look at what
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  Speaker 3: the Padre fans have done. Ever since twenty nineteen, when
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  Speaker 3: Fernando Tatist made his debut opening series of the year,
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  Speaker 3: that place has just continually gone up and up in
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  Speaker 3: in attendance, in popularity. They are the place to be
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  Speaker 3: for eighty one nights. And I think if you are
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  Speaker 3: looking to buy a team, why would you not want
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  Speaker 3: to buy this team? Why would you not want to
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  Speaker 3: continue the trend of a sold out stadium Because that
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  Speaker 3: is where your revenue is, That's where your local revenue is.
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  Speaker 3: I get it's TV too, but to me, if the
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  Speaker 3: Seidler family says, you know what, we don't want to
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  Speaker 3: be involved in this anymore, good for them. Time to
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  Speaker 3: get out. They'll get someone else in that wants to
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  Speaker 3: continue what Peter had been doing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you guys and San Diego. You
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  Speaker 1: know when they lost the Chargers, the Padres are the
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  Speaker 1: show in town. That's the only professional sports team in town,
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  Speaker 1: and that place is packed, and then they built the
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  Speaker 1: gas lamp around it, and it's got that beautiful stadium.
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  Speaker 1: They've got a dynamic roster tactiss in Jackson Merrill and
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  Speaker 1: Manny Machado, And I mean the rivalry with the Dodgers
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  Speaker 1: has become insane, one of the best in the sport
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  Speaker 1: right now. I mean that is it's it's rare to
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  Speaker 1: see a franchise decide that they're going to even explore
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  Speaker 1: selling a team when the franchise is doing so well.
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  Speaker 1: But I think you're right, Aja, and that that's the
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  Speaker 1: best way to honor Peter Seidler is if you don't
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  Speaker 1: have the heart in it, if you don't if you're
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  Speaker 1: not going to put the resources in it, that Peter did,
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  Speaker 1: or if whatever is going behind this going on behind
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  Speaker 1: the scenes with the family and with Peter's widow and
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  Speaker 1: the brothers, if whatever's going on is just too much
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  Speaker 1: and it's it's going to hurt the franchise, then yeah,
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  Speaker 1: explore selling it and let someone else take that the
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  Speaker 1: franchise that has become one of the better franchises in
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  Speaker 1: the sport with a roster loaded with talent, and take
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  Speaker 1: them into the future.
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  Speaker 3: I do.
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  Speaker 1: I applaud them, like you guys for doing.
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  Speaker 2: That's pretty big. What's over your right shoulder? I think
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  Speaker 2: it's your right shoulder.
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  Speaker 1: World Series Trophy?
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  Speaker 2: What's the ultimate goal in baseball?
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  Speaker 3: That?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, So if you're not going to try and do that,
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  Speaker 2: And we just had Jason on right about the Orioles,
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  Speaker 2: and you know what, the new owner hasn't done. He
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  Speaker 2: hasn't proven that he wants to win that badly. He's
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  Speaker 2: kind of they're doing the same thing as the Angelou's
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  Speaker 2: family did, like, oh well we're trying, but we're we're
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  Speaker 2: really not trying. So if Peter one thing about Peter Sidlers,
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  Speaker 2: he wanted it, he wanted it in his family that
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  Speaker 2: they don't want it, sell it, sell I get your
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  Speaker 2: two billion and get out, because two billion spends nicely
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: on the open market. I'm just saying, like, I could
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: do a lot with two billions, So you know, I'm
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: just thinking like, man, you know, I give me two billion,
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: I'm happy to take it. So move on and find someone.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: But you have to find the right owner, because just
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: because you get a new owner doesn't necessarily me know
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: the right owner. So you've got to do your stuff
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: and make sure you get the right owner that will
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: actually go for what's behind Heidie shoulder, which is a
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: World Series trophy.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that might be what's happening in Miami right now,
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: right which, by the.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: Way, how did you get that trophy? Like, is that
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: your trophy?
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: It's my husband's trophy from what team Astros?
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: Oh, he was a trash can bager twenty seventeen.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: She didn't want to say it. She didn't want to
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: say TROPHYI.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: Was a pro scout for the Houston Astros in twenty
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: seventeen when they won the World Series. And as someone
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: who worked in front offices in baseball for twenty years,
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: you're right, that's the ultimate goal. And and so he
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: he wanted the actual trophy.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: He just just ignored that whole thing. Kratz. I love
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: it television. That's professional television at its best. Right there.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: Next to that is a David Ortiz Jersey Poppy.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: Just look at that.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: Just look at that. Pop is my boy love Poppy,
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: all right.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: I mean I've known him since we were eighteen or
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: nineteen together, and he had a different name of that
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: time too, so that's cold he did. We traded for
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: the wrong guy. We remember telling Terry Ryan that he
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: David Arias when I played against him. He was a
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: uh Seattle. We traded for him, and we're like, hey, Terry,
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: you got the wrong guy. You're supposed to trade for
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: David Areas. He's like, no, he changed his name and
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: lost five years and just kidding, but we used to
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: tell David.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: That he didn't.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: And now whether you call him David Ortiz or big
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Poppy or whatever.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: He can't.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: I can't call him big Poppy because I knew him
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: when he was big crappy to me, like he was nobody.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: He was just David. Like I think everyone's like, oh,
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: I'm like, to me, he's just still David. I've known
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: him for so thirty but almost thirty years now, so
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: to me, he's still David, Like there's no because I called.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: Him David too, and people look at me like I
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: have two heads when I say that. But I knew him.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: I was the Red Sox reporter for four years with him,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: and I called him David. I didn't call him.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: They go, they go, like hey, they go, they go,
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: they go, and I was, you know, And then all
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: of a sudden he listened to the notorious Big Song
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: and he used to sing it. I love him when
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: you call me big pathy and then all of a
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: sudden he took off, and then he's big coffee.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Cratsy. What do you call them?
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: I call them. Let's go to break.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Such a suck up crap, which I appreciate.
• 19:12
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• 19:14
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• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Paul Skeens was named the cy Young Award winner, second
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: pitcher to win the award the year after he was
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: named the NL Rookie of the Year. That's duplicating Dwig
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Gooden's feed for the Mets in eighty four and eighty
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: five and Frnanda Veltinzuela, of course, in eighty one won
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: the MVP and the cy Young that year. Skeens though,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: the interesting thing about him and here you go unanimous.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Skeen said afterwards, you know, winning the award is obviously
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: a big honor, but winning it unanimously, that's where it
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: goes next level. It's pretty pretty special for him. Skeen's
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: best pitcher in baseball last year. I mean, he just
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: blew away the competition. But he has some interesting quote
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: afterwards about Pittsburgh and about wanting to stay in Pittsburgh
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: because story came out yesterday that he wanted to be
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: traded the Yankees. Always wanted to play for the Yankees.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Not sure where that came from an anonymous teammate. I
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: always wonder about those things. What did you guys think
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: about Paul Skeen saying he wants to not only stay
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: not get traded, he wants to bring a World Series
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: title to Pittsburgh. Kratzy will start with you.
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: I want to see why AJ is pouting. I see
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: his big lower lips. So that's before we comment on anything.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: I want to know why AJ is pouting. Did he
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: not think did he think Christopher Sanchez was going to
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: win the SiO.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: No, I'm acting like Paul Skeins did when he's won
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: the Rookie the Year and the SYOM.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Okay, his reactions, what's that about, dud?
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: If someone for like eighty one Rookie of the Year
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: and the next three you want say I would be
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: doing backbooks, like I'd be showing Libby Done how to
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: do the balance beam.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: Well maybe he just thinks everyone's looking at Libby Done
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: and no one's looking at him. Anyway, darn is like
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: look of the air.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: He's like uh huh. And this year he we actually
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: kind of got a fist pump, like a double fist pump,
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: So like, yeah, I just feel like you should have
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: been more excited, don't you. I guess when you're just
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: expecting to be this awesome, he just doesn't get you excited.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: But the last year one is a meme of all time,
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: a gift gift with whatever you call it. But it
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: was an all timer because he's like, yeah, I know,
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Paul's like mm hmm brushed it. Yeah, But anyways, that's it.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: That's why my face is like that, because I'm not surprised.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: The kids use the kids use that video as the
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: nonchalant final boss, Like there couldn't be more of a
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: chalant type of moment where you're like, yes, yes, so honestly,
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: I need to see Paul Skeans win a World Series
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: because I want to see him go hard. I get it,
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: he was an Air Force guy. I get it. He's
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: he thinks he's supposed to do this. But I want
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: to see him celebrate like it's nineteen. Like I want
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: to see him like really, because you know, he puts
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: in a ton of work and maybe that's why he
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: kind of has that like demeanor where he's never too high,
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: never too low. But you want to see a guy
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: be able to celebrate. And this year he went all
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: the way out to hear yes, but the kids say, oh,
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: bro gonna be nonchalant. Bro got to be nonchalant. Or
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: maybe he's just waiting to get called up to the
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: next league that Aaron judge, so be Aaron judge him.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: And this year cal Raley and Shoho Tani it before
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: Man League. I guess you.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Could you could do that. I wonder if because he's
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: one of those guys who's always been team right. He's
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: he said, the individual awards are great, but what.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: I play for is all right there he HEDI stuff.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: He's in Pittsburgh, okay, so that whatever you're pointing out
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: back there. That is probably not gonna happen. He was
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh, so maybe enjoy getting a Sally Young, enjoy
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: getting Rookie of the Year, Like that's those are cool.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Like I didn't win that. If I would
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: have wanted to say, I would, I mean I was,
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: I would have been a pitcher or if I would
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: have won the MVP, are you kidding me? I would
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: have had a party like nobody's business. Like I would
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: have rented out and he's an LSU guy, I know live.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: I would have rent it out LSU Stadium and had
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: a party and been like, yeah, people celebrate me. Instead
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: he's like cool, bro.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: Maybe he's so salty because the Pirates don't really seem
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: to be doing a whole lot to add to the team.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, one of his quotes, he said, I personally
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: love if we're losing, the fans don't show up in
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: the same numbers. If you want fans, you have to win.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: I want to be a part of the group that
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: accomplishes that. The fans do come. They come once every
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: five days when he's the starting pitcher. Otherwise they don't come.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: But maybe he's just so salty because he wants more.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: He wants more around him. He doesn't want to be
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: the only main attract in Pittsburgh.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: I think that's fair. But I think Pittsburgh can look
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: not too far to the north in Detroit and see
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: that a team can win with a legit starting pitcher,
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: and really they're not. You're not asking the Pirates to
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: put to put Wan Soto in, Sho Heo Tani and
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: Kyle Tucker all around him. You're just looking to surround
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: Paul Skeens. And you know what, that starting rotation is
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: pretty legit. And at the end of the season, I
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: think they were like the sixth best defensive team. So
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: maybe the Pirates aren't that far And maybe Paul Skeens
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: is saying this just to say the right things because
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: he was trained really well by his agent, by some
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: media people, whatever it is. But you know what, if
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: you're somewhere, you might as well want to win while
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: you're there, and you might as well try to push
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: other people around you, not just your not just your
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: fellow players, maybe the front office, maybe ownership. You know,
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: last year at the at the awards ceremony, when we
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: had Paul Schemes on the show, Bob Nutting showed up,
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: so he showed up so he knows that Paul is
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: pitching really well for his team. Maybe this is Paul saying,
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: you know what, I'll keep doing this for you. I
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: get it. You might not resign me, but don't make
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: me spend four years in purgatory here. Don't make me.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: Don't make me win another cy Young at ten to ten.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: Like I've had his historical start to my career, maybe
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: you need to start doing something too. And maybe that's maybe,
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: hopefully that's what some of these comments, which are not
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: salacious at all, spurse something like get some kind of
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: fire or spark or something for the Pirates front office.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: All right, well let's give his personal catcher at Henry Nobody.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: No, no, I think this is I think this is
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: a bad stand. If I had Paul, I would have man,
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: I could have had the best catcher's era of all time.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: I know crowds agrees with me. But although he's probably
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: catchers e guy like okay, oh listen, I get to
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: catch the ace. So my catcher's era is better than
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: the catcher who catches the four. Other days it might
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: get the five guy or a bullpen day or whatever
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: it is. I think it's one of the worst stats
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: of all time because you could suck your way right
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: up into a good catcher's vra if you're good at
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: and I know some people that I played with that
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: were good at it.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Okay, but there's got something behind it because the pirates.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Are looking for it. I just told you. I just
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: told you what it was. If I caught Paul Schemes
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: right now, he might have had so Henry Davis had
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: a one point eight one ERA when he caught him, Okay,
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: so I might have got him to a one point seven.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Am I a better catcher than Henry Davis right now? No?
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: So I don't deserve any credit either, Like that's it's
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: the crats is laughing, But I hope he agrees with me.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Like catcher's e ra A. To me, this doesn't mean
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: what people think it means because it all depends on
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: who you catch when you catch him, what lineup, who's
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: available in the bullpen. It's like such a such a
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: random stat it can be manifuam well, good job Henry Davis.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Because I will say this about Henry is he stuck
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: in the big leagues and he proved he can catch
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: at the big league level, So for that, I will
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: give him kudos.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: We're gonna happen. Real, what's that, Heidi?
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Go ahead, keeping the ace happy? I mean, personal.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: Catcher, Heidi, You're you're drinking the same kool aid. I'm
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: trying to think when you were in Boston. If that
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: person John Lester doesn't need a personal catcher, John Lester
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: is paid a person.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: Tim Wakefield couldn't catch the knuckleball Josh Barr, so Doug
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: mure Belly had to get the personal from San. I
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: know that's different, Heidi, that's different.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: And nobody's gonna listen to this because all the other
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: people have always sold this as if you are the
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: legit catcher. If we're going to talk about catchers e ra,
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: which I think it's a thing. But show me the
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: number five pitcher. Show me the number five pitcher and
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: he had a career year because you caught him all
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: thirty two of his starts. Show me the number four
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: pitcher on your staff. Don't show me, Paul Skeins, don't
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: show me John Lester.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: Whoa what am Greg Mannix? Greg Mannix, back in the
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: day you kind of started this, Greg Max, like Tobby Lopez.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: He can't catch me. Is he only hits forty homers
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: a year. I need Charlie O'Brien or Eddie Perez to
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: catch me. Greg Max is going the Hall of Fame
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: no matter what.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: Here's the two here's the two examples. AJ's gonna play
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: every five, five days in a row. I'll play one day, okay.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: AJ has to go out there. If he's like, you
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: know what, I'm gonna give everything I have to this
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: to this one starting pitcher and screw the other four
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: cat pictures that I'm catching, then he's not gonna be
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: doing his job right. AJ has to focus on the
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: one guy that he has that one day. Whether it's
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: the best pitcher or the worst pitcher, you have to
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: focus on that. It's the same as a backup catcher.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: Like if you're saying this guy throws, like if a
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: picture and now it was tired to me when a
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: picture would be like, ugh, I don't like throwing to
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: this guy. Why do you not like throwing to that guy? Like?
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: Is he is he holding your arm back? Well? You know,
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: he just doesn't call the right pit like you're a
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: grown man, call your own pictures. I feel more comfortable
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: the way he sets up. So then talk to the
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: other guy, like as the backup. If somebody comes to
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: me and complains about the starting catcher and says I
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: don't like throwing to that guy because of this, go
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: tell him we're all on the same team. Just because
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: you didn't like a shift or you didn't like the
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: way that something was, Like, we're all trying to win.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: Like the catcher's era stuff is cool. It's a cool
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: stat but I think it's done completely wrong when we
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: start talking about cy Young's and the best pictures on
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: the staff. Like if I pay, if I pay somebody
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: one hundred and sixty million dollars, I don't need to
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: bring over his personal catcher. Sorry, I'm paying you one
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: hundred and sixty million, you're gonna throw to the guy
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: who we won. In fact, I might even put the
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: bad guy back there.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: By the way, Cratzy, I'm gonna use I'm gonna use
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: this as so. When I played for the Red Sox
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: for half a year, the opening day John Lester Pitch
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: in Baltimore, we lost one to nothing on a Nelson
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Cruz homer that hit the foul pall on right field, Okay,
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: I didn't catch John Lesser again for months because they
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: said we didn't match up. Well, I'm like, not done.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: This wasn't John, This wasn't John. This was the coaching staff. Okay,
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: So I love John, but he's like, oh yeah, I'm
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: like he gave up one run in like seven innings
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: on opening day and it was a it was a
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: shanked homer by Nelson Cruz that hit the foul pall.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: What did I do so wrong?
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: Ah?
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: This?
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, okay, whatever, and then for the other
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: four days I concentrate on that. But I knew as
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: a player, like for that one day, I wasn't gonna play,
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: which is totally awkward to me. Personal catchers, Fine, if
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: you have to have that to get by, great, but
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: I don't. I'm not. I'm just not. I wasn't a
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: believer in it, Like you should be able to throw
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: who whoever. And again, like like what krat said, if
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: you had a problem with something I was doing as
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: the everyday guy, come talk to me. I'll fix it.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Don't go behind my back and say, oh I don't
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: like the way he sets up all right, Well, come
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: to me. I can I can adjust, just tell me
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: have a conversation that. That's why I'm not a big
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: personal catcher guy. People believe in it. Fine, it works,
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: it works. But again, like I said, the important thing
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: here about Henry Davis, besides Paul Skeins winning the Pion,
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Henry Davis proved he could catch in the big leagues,
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: and that was the big question mark.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: So good for you. Henry Davis proved a j wrong.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: You guys like he call you out. Didn't he call
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: you out? When he came on the show, he said,
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: I heard what you said. I heard what you said
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: on that on that first in his first.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Game, Yeah, because I his like his second game catching
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: he was not good and and Derek Shilton was like,
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: he's not a catcher. And then the next spring I
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: saw him and I was like, he wasn't very good,
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: but he listens good. That's what I'm saying. Good for you,
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Henry Davis. You proved you can catch in the big leagues.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: I've given him as kudos, like his value as being
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: the one of one pick. It was the first pick
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: overall was his bad and the fact you could.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: Catch, I mean maybe not one of one, but.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: He was one one. He was the first pick in
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: the dragon.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Maybe he has lived up to a one to one, but.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: His value was as a catcher, and his value was
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: as bad as a catcher, and they put him in
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: right field, like make him catch and make him hit
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: as a catcher, that's your value pirates. Okay, there's other
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: people that have been No, there's other people though that
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: were their value as a catcher and they're moved to
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: other positions and they lose their value because if you
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: could do what you do as a hitter and a catcher,
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: your value goes up as a first baseman, d h
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: outfield or left field or whatever it is. Ambassio talk
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: about the Orioles boom. You lose some value because catching
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: is so hard.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And and the Orioles with his bad speed and
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: his comps to Jordan Alvarez and Vladimiric Junior as sealing
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: as a hitter, like they don't want his body taking
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: that wear and tear. But that's the Orioles discussion. Did
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: you guys see the skins with the hot dog machine
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: last night? He's got this in his house and this
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: isn't the cy Young party. Isn't just the only time
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: he's he's broke this out. Man likes some hot dogs.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: You guys like hot dogs, and you're add on the hot.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Dogs, love them, love hot dogs. Every time I go
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: to a Ballparkidie, like you know you travel for Apple,
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: I travel for Fox. When I go into the press
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: dining room and they have the hot dog roller machine
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: and they have all the First of all, I have
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: to put all the condiments because I'm a Chicago dog guy.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: Now they don't have the pickles and all that stuff.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: They're going on Chicago dog. But I got to go
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: catch it. Mustard relish onions just slattered on there. And
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: then oh, I'm all in.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: So you don't like the hot dogs, you like all
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: the condiments.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Can you be a man of both? Can you be
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: a man of both?
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: Crazy?
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: Hot dog's good? But only a big leaguer would look
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: at it and say, oh, yeah, I went to the
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: press box and have a hot dog. The minor leaguers
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: when the bus stops to change bus drivers on a
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: twelve hour bus trip at.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: Three in the morning and you roll you're getting the
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: Takeito's on the hot dog roller at seven eleven.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what Paul was missing. You can tell he
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: was a big leaguer. You're getting the teketos. You got
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: a hot I mean, you don't want one of the
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: front hot dogs. You want one of them mac ones
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: that's been on there since six probably like the dinner rush.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: And now it's three in the morning.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: Ooh, a tube fil a that's what it is.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: You're hoping the lady at seven to eleven has the Cuban
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: Cubano press going so you can get a hot sandwich,
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: right Like, you're like, can we get the full hot
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: press Cubano? Maybe pizzas sometimes pizza is good in the
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: in the truck stops.
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: Man at that meat rolling doesn't know anything about.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: This private jets And yeah.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: You know Skien spent a good day or two in college,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: so he may have, you know, eaten a couple of
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: peanut butter and jelly sandwiches himself.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Not Lanes.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say, yeah, air Force, Air Force,
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: they weren't. They weren't having that. They weren't having that
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: in the in the mess hall and l s U.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: I mean it was raising canes or or walk on,
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: walk on.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: Might the spread at L s U might be better
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: than what they get in Pittsburgh.
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: We get it again the n L m v P
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: bet MGM odds from starting the season. I mean, looking
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: at it now, hey, j at plus one at plus
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: one sixty, Why did we not take show?
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: Hey?
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: Was it?
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Just?
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: Did we just not like free money? Because he's going
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: to be the m v P as long as he
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: stays healthy every single year.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean show he's gonna win. But
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: if you bet like ten thousand dollars on that crotch,
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: he could have won like ten six hundred dollars. So
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: I mean you should have done that. I don't know
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: why you rich as hell? Why did you not do it?
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm at I'm at my golf course right
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: now too. If you show my picture, I'll be that's
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: that's where I am about to play, about to play
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: a round of golf with nobody. But I mean Sorber
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: made a Schwarmer made maybe my golf course. But you know, yeah,
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: my pupput. Actually I can see right past my rape
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: pass my monitor. I can see my uh my putting
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: mat that I have in my basement. So I'm slowly
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: getting better. In one day I'll be allowed to golf
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: at Grove City, I mean Grove twenty three whenever I
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: whenever my friend invites me there, since he's a member.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: Better call better call Griffy and see if he can
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: get you in.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: I mean, now we know each other. He knows me
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: as that backwards. So I hope, I hope you can
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: call him sometime to come and be a guest on
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: our show.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: So that's just that's just be he wasn't against anyways,
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: here's the thing. The three names up there, there was
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: a shorter uh so so sorry short Showta showed up.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: Show there's too many sows. But schorver Soto and show
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: he show. He's going to win this every year as
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: long as he keeps healthy and he can pitch and hit.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's no way you can lose this award.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: He might if he keeps healthy, he might. This isn't
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: really going out that bar in the lamb, but he
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: might break Ferry up Barry Bond's record of seven consecutive
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: mbps because nobody can compete with it what he does,
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: because he pitches and hits, which you've never seen.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: Before, not consecutive seven total for his career.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: That's what I mean.
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yep, Heidi, this is your read.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: Ben MGM players will receive a no sweat token to
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• 39:10
  Speaker 1: All right, sign for the hot corner, and it's a
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: it's a position that neither one of you ever played,
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: and you know, may may not have been able to handle.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know catchers, but we've got some topics for you.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: And Ben Rtvetz right at the age he didn't like
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: that comment.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: Ben Wartvetz, Heidi, I was fully scared of the ball.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: I'm not afraid.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: I mean it's the hot corner for a reason.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: I was fully scared of the ball. Trust me. Put
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: the gear on me. I'm not scared. Put a helmet
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: on me in a bat and not scared. Put me
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: in the infield. Scared your death.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: He always worried. You always were equipment. You had a
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: huge elbow guard when you were hitting, you had huge
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: catchy equipment. You said, Nike, make me something bigger. I'm
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: gonna wear something bigger so I don't get hurt.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: True, and I didn't get hurt, Thank you NI.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: Designing Apparel. Now, Ben Rtva also a catcher. Red's claimed him.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: He was starting for the Dodgers in the wild Card
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: series and really.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: I mean wouldn't to play where HEII, this is the
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: problem they have. They have Travino and they have Stevenson.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Where's he gonna play? Is he gonna be a third catcher,
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: He's gonna be Homer Bailey's Homer Bailey's personal catcher. Where's
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: he going to play? That's my problem?
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: Like, well, they had injuries both Stevenson and Travino last year,
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: so having some depth in the minor league, someone who
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: can come up and hold his own. Maybe not offensively,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: but he certainly he was big for the Dodgers down
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: the stretch. Will Smith was hurt. Remember leading into the postseason,
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: it was when when and if he'll be back? And
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: he was catching in the wild Card series, So I mean, yeah,
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: Stevenson's their guy, but he's been hurt quite a bit.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: I hate this for Ben because I was there. But
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: if I my math right, and maybe we'll have to
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: get it finalized. I think he has an option left.
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: So you're talking about a guy with over three years
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: of service that you could have three big league catchers.
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: And I know Ben didn't hit very well, but you
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: know his value is there, and maybe the Reds are like, hey,
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: you know what, we can pass them through waivers, probably
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: the same thing the Dodgers were hoping. And then the
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: Dodgers would pay him a lot to go playing Triple A,
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: like you always need three catchers every season.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: Well in case the backup gets hurt brutal.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: You know, they said that Trevino was a big leader
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: on that team too, when.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: Stevens Travino on here all the time, and then he
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: went to the Reds and he forgot about us. So
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: you know, some people change.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: And he didn't like he didn't like AJ's questions. He
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: only liked talking to backup catchers like me because he
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: has a goal. He has a platinum glove and neither
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: of us have have gold gloves or platinum skillet.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: Was that gol.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: You could tell You could tell Aj how good he
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: was defensively by the way he hit. He's got two
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: thousand hits, that's what his gold globe is.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: Also, listen, Craszy I'm gonna say this. I was a
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: finalist for a goal Globe numerous years. I just never one.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: I don't know what that means. I don't know if
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: you can take that to arbitration, but I mean I
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: was a finalist.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: Can we just talk about how hard it is to
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: play in Cincinnati? It's freezing cold.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: And then it.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: Goes from freezing cold to like a skillet with humility
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: and everything.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: And listen, I'm gonna explain some of you. If you
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: can hit eighty one games in Cincinnati, it's like playing
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: in Colorado. Sign me up. Please? Oh wait, I missed
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: that one. Oh my bat's broken. Oh it goes in
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: the it's over great American small park. Trust me. No,
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: ain't no one complaining about playing in the Cincinnati to hit,
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: all right, And.
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: It's the big leagues. As last thing's Mill it said
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: there ain't no wind in the big leagues. Like it
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: doesn't matter what the temperature is, you always it's always
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: better playing in the big leagues cold hot. You can
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: complain about it, but nobody wants to listen.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: Lasting Miller's never complained about anything that is true.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: I was the best part when you're slapping hands at
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: the end of a game. Hey cratsy, what are you
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: wearing on your head today?
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: Chase Tingler's new assistant to the director of the head
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: coaching minor league coaching extra strategy coach for the Giants,
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: came on the show, so I had to wear my
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: Giants hat. I wasn't as good a Giant as a.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: J Hum, but I was who left faster? Miria?
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: Oh, actually I had much better. I always tell people
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: I had. I had much better exit velocity with the Giants.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: I left that clubhouse so fast. That was my exit
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: velocity with the Giants.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, I made it a whole year, so I'm
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: proud of myself for that. But I will say this,
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: I'm more of a slap ask guy than a slap
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: hands guy.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: Okay, that's fair. Would be a good show, wouldn't be
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: a segment? Good segment name slap hands?
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think half the guys doing in
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: the line. Anyway, Why do you leave that? Speaking of
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: the opposite of great American Ballpark?
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: Why did you believe so fist in San Francisco Because
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: I stunk and they didn't
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: Want me me too grab