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Creation Science Evangelism Kent Hovind Seminar 7 2 Question and Answer · Brett Keane and Eve Show

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A question I get by atheists sometimes when I do debates, and
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I've done 99 professors I've debated.
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Now they'll say, well, doesn't the Green River formation in
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Wyoming prove the earth is millions of years old?
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There's a good article in one of the old creation magazines.
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I recommend a magazine to disagree with a couple things on
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them, but you know, disagree with everybody on something
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except me. But it's really good.
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From Australia, they've got a good article about the Green
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River formation. If you want to read that there,
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go to answersingenesis.org. You can get there website, I get
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there or the magazine, about 22 bucks a year I think.
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The Green River Formation is a layer of rock in Wyoming that
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contains possibly hundreds of thousands, if not millions of
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finely stratified layers. Well, if you go to our museum,
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you can get that little glass thing with two pieces of glass
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and different colored sand in between.
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You flip it over and it makes dozens and dozens of layers in a
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matter of a few seconds. Well, when they dig through the
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Green River, they'll say, here's a picture of the Green River
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Formation. They'll say, oh, each of these
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layers is a different season. And they go by the pollen.
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They say somehow there's certain pollen produced by trees in the
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spring. A different kind of tree
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produces pollen in the fall. And if you look at these layers,
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it's got the spring, fall, spring, fall, spring, fall, I
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mean like maybe even a million times.
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And they call them annual layers because of the pollen.
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Well, the truth of the matter is all those things would sort very
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rapidly, just like the thing in our museum does sorts things
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very rapidly. Multiple.
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There's only two densities of colored sand in there, black and
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white, but it'll make, you know, 40 layers in a few seconds.
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Multiple layering. Massive layering forms quickly.
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If you dig through this Green River formation, you find layers
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of ash in there from apparently a volcanic eruption.
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As they drill down through the ash, they count the number of
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layers between the two. Ash layers, the number of layers
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of Green River formation, and it's up to 35% difference in two
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different places. You drill 1 hole, you got 100
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layers. You drill another hole, you only
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got, you know, 60 layers. What's why would that be?
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You know, if those layers are really annual rings, then they
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should be consistent throughout the whole thing.
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And it's simply not. So get the article in Creation
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magazine. If somebody ever says to you the
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Green River Formation proves the Earth is millions of years old,
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it is not. And I get asked the question,
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maybe you've heard the question. What about the Mars rock?
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Is there really life on Mars like this article, You know, are
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we really Martians? There was a video program when I
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was a kid called My Favorite Martian.
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It was kind of like Bewitched in one of those programs, you know,
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and the idea that there's been life on Mars has been around for
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for decades. Here's a Percival Lowell's
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picture here showing him thinking about boy.
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He said that Mars seems to be inhabited, is not the last, but
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the first word on the subject. Back 100 years ago, he said
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there might be life on Mars because of the canals.
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Well, the Mars Rover went up there.
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They sent, I think I don't know how many have gone up there.
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Quite a few failed, you know, good proof against evolution.
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But then this machine, that multibillion dollar machine
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lands on Mars, tests the soil, could not even find a trace of a
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germ on Mars. Now Walt Brown says in his book,
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in the beginning, if there's anything found on Mars and there
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may be bacteria found on Mars, he says he predicted that it
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came from Earth during the flood when the fountains of the deep
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broke open. He says the he does all the
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physics and he's a physics professor.
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He said there would be enough pressure of 10 miles of rock
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pushing down on water to shoot things into orbit from Earth
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that would then float around for, you know, a few hundred, a
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few thousand years until they happened to get caught in a
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gravitational pull of whatever. And he thinks there might be
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stuff on Mars and it would have come from planet Earth.
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I don't know if that's true or not, but pretty convincing
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argument he makes for it. But there have been 235 missions
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to Mars. 2/3 were complete or partial failures.
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Lots of money we spent trying to prove life on Mars.
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What's the purpose? Well, I think the whole purpose
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of the space program anymore is to prove evolution.
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They're trying desperately to prove God didn't do it.
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And if they can find life someplace else, well, then
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that's proof, you know, for evolution in their mind.
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This Little Rock you see a picture of here, sample ALH
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84101.0. This was the rock that they said
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proved there was life on Mars. Now, this rock was actually
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found near the South Pole. On that rock, there's a little
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wiggly line right there in the red circle.
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That little line they said looks like a fossilized bacteria.
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This is under a microscope, extremely highly magnified.
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And they said, see, that's proof there's life on Mars, because
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here's a fossilized bacteria. Well, first place Mars is quite
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a ways from the Earth, OK? I mean, quite a ways from the
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Earth. The closest they ever get in
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their orbits is about 1/2 astronomical unit, or about
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45,000,000 miles. That's the closest it ever gets.
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If we shrank all the planets down to the size of tomatoes and
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Earth was a four inch tomato, Mars would be a 2 inch tomato.
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It's about half the diameter of Earth and the closest it ever
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gets in its orbit would be about 1/3 of a mile away.
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At that scale, they say something hit Mars and knock
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that rock over to Earth. Think about it.
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I want you to shoot a 2 inch tomato so that a piece of it
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splatters 1/3 of a mile and lands on a four inch tomato.
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I think you're asking for, obviously there should be some
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evidence of something hitting Mars that hard, like maybe a
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dent, you know, ought to be something to indicate I think
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I've blasted that hard to shoot something that far.
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But I don't buy the Mars rock at all.
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Well, basically what happened that NASA was trying desperately
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to get their grant money through Congress.
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Congress was not about to vote for 20 bazillion more dollars
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for NASA. To go look for, you know, life
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on Mars. They claimed the rock came from
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Mars. They claimed it broke off
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16,000,000 years ago, drifted around through space and finally
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landed 13,000 years ago near the South Pole.
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That's the claim. OK, the truth of the matter is
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it was in a closet in NASA for about 7 years.
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This rock was. My questions would be what did
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this bacteria eat for these, you know, 16,000,000 years while
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it's flying around through space?
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How did it survive the impact of the initial thing blasting it
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out, this vacuum of space, the reentry, it's going to burn up
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coming through, it's going to re melt the whole rock coming
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through our atmosphere going to melt the whole thing freezing
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for 13 years near the South Pole as a NASA funded team that did
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the research on the rock. And at the same time NASA grant
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money was stalled in Congress. So what really was happening was
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they said, guys, you got to find something important in this rock
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so that we can tell the people we've got to have more grant
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money. And Jonathan, we did the radio
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program. Oftentimes we'd read these
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articles about these, you know, this hidden agenda was always
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send more money for more research.
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You know, if only we had more money.
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We can do. It's in just about every article
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in science magazines. As soon as the announcement was
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made about the Mars rock, the grant money was released.
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Congress voted, yes, let's give NASA 40 bazillion dollars.
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OK, A few months we a few months later, they studied the rock
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more and said, oh, that's not that's not a bacteria.
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That's actually a crystal, a carbonate crystal, a naturally
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forming substance. OK, we're sorry, folks.
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We'll keep looking, but thanks for the grant money.
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You know, of course, he didn't return it after that.
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It's just as simply a carbonate crystal that forms naturally on
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rocks. The Bible says Eve's the mother
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of all living. I do not believe there's life on
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other planets. There is no evidence at all of
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any life on any other planet except right here on Earth.
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Question that frequently comes up is what about theistic
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evolution? Couldn't God use evolution?
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Well, of course, that depends on what you mean by God.
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OK, Osama bin Laden believes in God.
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He's certainly got a different God than I do.
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OK, the Mormons believe in God. When they say our heavenly
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Father, they're praying to Adam. We'll get into more Mormons
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Mormons in a minute. So what do you mean by God?
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The God that would use a process like evolution would be cruel,
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wasteful, and retarded. It is not the God of the Bible,
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that's for sure. It's not in the character of God
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to use an evil mean process like evolution where bazillions of
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animals have to die. In order for this things to
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improve, God is merciful. Evolution is cruel.
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It's not merciful. The weakest is destroyed in
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evolution, not protected. Jacques Monaat, a Nobel.
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Prize winner said natural selection is the blindest and
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most cruel way of evolving new species.
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In more complex organisms the struggle for life and
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elimination of the weakest is a horrible process against which
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our whole modern ethics revolts. An ideal society is non
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selective where the weak is protected, which is the opposite
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of the so-called natural law, he said.
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I'm surprised that a Christian would defend the idea that this
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is the process which God set up to have evolution.
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I'm surprised too that anybody would say God used evolution.
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What kind of God do they have anyway?
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He's mean, that's for sure. Philosopher David Hull said
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whatever the God implied by evolutionary theory in the data
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of Natural History may be, he is not the Protestant God of waste
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not, want not. He is not even the awful God
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portrayed in the Book of Job. The God of Galapagos is
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careless, he is wasteful, he's indifferent, he's almost
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diabolical. So this is not the God of the
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Bible and I would have to agree, Charles Darwin in his book said.
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From the war of nature, from famine, from death, the most
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exalted object we're capable of conceiving, the production of
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higher animals follows. See, in evolution, billions of
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things have to die in order to make the process work.
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One animal evolves a little better than the rest.
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The rest of them have to die. Or the new improved genes are
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swamped back into the gene code. They're lost.
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But there are people who teach, you know, theistic evolution.
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The Bible says God's way is perfect.
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He made it right the first time. So I do not believe God would
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use evolution to get us here for several reasons.
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I think they're talking about a different God, OK.
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This is not the character of the God of the Bible.
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The God of the Bible doesn't do things that way, OK?
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The Bible says He made everything by His word and it
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was perfect. He made it all in six days.
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The Bible's real clear and He rested on the 7th day and He
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finished His works from the foundation of the world.
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So the Bible clearly teaches 6 days of creation, rested the 7th
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day over and over. It calls it the 7th day.
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And the Bible says real clearly that man brought death into the
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world. If theistic evolution is true,
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then death brought man into the world or death was here before
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man arrived. And the Bible says clearly man
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brought death into the world. And the Bible says we're made in
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God's image. So if the original created man
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was some kind of, you know, animal that slowly evolved, and
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what does God look like? You know, is he a baboon?
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The fourth thing to consider, I think it's a retarded God that
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can't make it right first time. He's not worthy of worship,
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that's for sure. And it certainly #4 nullifies
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the need for the death of Christ.
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And fifthly, and most importantly, probably, there's
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no evidence for evolution anyway.
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So why should we take a perfectly good Bible which has
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never been proven wrong, and compromise it with a stupid
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theory that's never been proven right?
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Everything about evolution is backwards to the Bible.
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Every single thing. Nothing matches.
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You can look at the chart there and see everything's backwards.
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The Bible says man brought death into the world.
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Evolution says death brought man into the world.
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The Bible says God created man. Evolution says man created God.
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Does evolution match the Bible? Absolutely not.
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It is a heresy to teach God used evolution, and a heresy is
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something against the clear teaching of scripture.
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And I think there are people who are heretics.
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Today I debated Hugh Ross reasons to believe.
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He's written several books. I've got several of them right
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here. Creator in the cosmos, creation
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in time, the Genesis solution, creation in time.
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He is a very nice man, a very smart man, and probably sincere
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and probably really honestly loves the Lord in his own way.
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I do think he has a different God than I do, and I suspect
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that he's probably not a Christian in the biblical sense.
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He's got the mental acceptance of Christ, but not repentance
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and faith. That's just my theory.
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These four things right here, Ham, chicken, ribs, Turkey, what
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do they all have in common? Well, they're all meats.
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They're all edible, and they all have bones in them.
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You have to learn early in life to eat the meat and spit out the
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bones or you're going to choke on something.
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OK. That's just the way life is.
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If you don't learn that as a kid, you're going to die pretty
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early. And there are some good things
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you can learn from, even from the heretics.
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They teach things. They've got some really good
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teaching in there. But you better spit out the
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bones. When I debated Hugh Ross, I
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asked him all kinds of questions.
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And we've got the whole thing. John Ankerberg show taped it for
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us. And John Ankerberg now is a
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believer that the Earth is billions of years old.
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He's a friend of mine. Nice guy, but I think that is
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pure heresy to teach that in his book.
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Genesis. Solution right here.
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Here's his testimony. He was a teenager reading
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through the Bible. He said 18 months later I
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arrived at Revelation 22. In other words, I finished the
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Bible during those 18. During those months I read every
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passage and failed to discover anything I could honestly label
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as an error or contradiction. Some parts I had trouble
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understanding, but that didn't bother me.
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I understood enough, just as I understood enough physics and
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astronomy, to trust what I was learning in my university
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courses. He was studying astronomy and he
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became an astronomer in Canada. OK, PhD in astronomy now at the
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bottom, he says, with some more delays and a little more
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wrestling with personal pride. I did make a transfer of trust,
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inviting God, the creator of the vast cosmos, to be my God, the
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master of my destiny through Jesus Christ his son.
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Now, does that mean he got saved?
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I don't know. It looks to me from what he
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still believes that he has a mental acceptance of Christ.
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He is like I would consider a Catholic Bishop or a Pope who
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probably very sincere, very dedicated, and just simply
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doesn't understand repentance and faith.
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This is more of a mental acceptance rather than a real
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salvation experience, I think. I hope I'm wrong.
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I don't know who's going to heaven, who's not.
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I'm not saying he's going to hell, but I suspect he's not a
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Christian in the biblical sense. OK, I have a whole series.
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I debated Hugh Ross for three hours and then we made a bunch
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of post debate comments and that's all available on our
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video series about the Hugh Ross debate.
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There's a great book by Jonathan Sarfati about Hugh Ross's
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heresies. Now Sarfati's brilliant guy.
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He lives in Australia and I love reading his stuff.
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I think he's wrong on a couple things.
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You know, certainly his thinking about the King James is wrong,
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but we can deal with that some other time.
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It's so it's possible to believe in God and still not be saved.
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James 219 says the devils believe in tremble.
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They believe they're not saved. They have a head knowledge but
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not a heart knowledge. Matthew 7.
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Not everyone that saith unto me, Lord, Lord shall enter the
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Kingdom of heaven, OK? Not everybody who claims they're
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a Christian really is OK. What about some of the other
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religions? I think theistic evolution
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probably would be a false religion as opposed to a branch
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of Christianity, but there are quite a few other religions.
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I'm going to cover a lot of this in our college class, so I'm
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going to skip most things for now.
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I won't cover them all, and I'll just hit a few highlights.
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But in our college class in the 200 series, we will cover a lot
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of other religions. I mean, there's a lot of
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religions out there. Who's right?
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Well, obviously the Independent Baptists are right.
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You know, when you get done climbing the mountain of truth,
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that's, you know, find that they're sitting there all along.
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Did you figure that out yet, Derek, that the Independent
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Baptists are the ones that are right here, not quite there yet.
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You're still climbing. Still climbing.
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OK, so I'm not against other religions.
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I'm simply for truth and against error.
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And if the Catholics teach something that is right, I'll
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say, yeah, you're right. If my mother teaches something
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that is right or wrong, I'll say, yeah, that's right, that's
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wrong. You don't ever want to get
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committed to a denomination or committed to A to any one thing
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other than truth. So I'm for truth and against
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error. And the Bible says in Ephesians,
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you got to be careful about being carried away with every
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wind of doctrine when religions differ on things.
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If somebody must be wrong, of course maybe they're both wrong,
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but at least one of them has to be wrong.
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OK, if there's a difference. So he that cometh first in his
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own cause seemeth just it says in Proverbs and a young person
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the first time they hear somebody talk about a religion,
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they say, oh wow, that sounds good.
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Well, you better search it out. I remember the first time I
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heard the teachings of the Jehovah's Witness as he I was a
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brand new Christian. I got reading some of their
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stuff. I said, wow, that seems right
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until I studied it. Wow, that's not right.
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Saying that's the danger of any young person can be trapped
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because the first time you hear something, oh wow, that sounds
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good. You better really search it out.
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We had here on staff, one of the guys had a.
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Book that he was giving out, you know, to everybody and it
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sounded really good, but it was written by some of the heretics
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of the 1st century. I said, well, you better really
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study this out. It seems right at 1st until you
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say, oh, wait a minute, is that true?
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It's interesting. If you read Genesis 27, Jacob
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and Esau, you know how Jacob tricked his father.
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The father went by the feeling instead of by the word he said
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You sound like Jacob, but you feel like Esau.
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So he gave him Esau's blessing and it's the reason he got
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tricked is precisely because he went by the feeling.
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The Mormons will tell you they know their rights because when
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they prayed about Mormonism, they got a burning in the bosom.
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They got a feeling. Oh wow, this feels right.
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Well, just kneeling down and praying to anything will give
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you that burning feeling. Ah, just a reverence of kneeling
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down, praying to this rock that. Doesn't mean it's.
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Right. OK.
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And that's their whole thinking. It's all based on feeling.
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A lot of the charismatics do the same stuff.
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You know, they have this feeling like, oh, wow, I just feel like
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I should, you know, do this. We got the demonstration in the
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Science Center about the you blindfold the person on the
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chair that spins. Any of you ever done that thing?
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Sit down there, get blindfolded, spin you around within 30
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seconds, you feel like you're not spinning even though you
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still are. And then when you stop the
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person, they feel like they're turning the other way, even
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though they're not turning at all.
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And that's how pilots crash their planes, because they go by
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their feelings and not by what does the gauge say?
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So I am not anti any other religion.
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I'm simply for truth and for the Bible and against error.
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So keep that in mind. And you got to be careful about
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going on feelings. What about the Sabbath?
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Well, I get asked probably every week.
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I get books sent to me. I've got a whole section of our
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library by probably every book ever written by any 7th Day
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Adventist, and they're all trying to convert me over to
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being a 7th Day Adventist. And they send me all kinds of
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stuff and don't send me anymore. I've already got them all.
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OK, I don't need any more. I've got lots of books, all the
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books by Ellen G White, EG White, OK, who wrote and she was
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the prophetess of the 7th Day Adventist Church.
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I'm not anti 7th Day Adventist. I've spoken to some of their
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churches. And there's a lot of good folks,
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love the Lord, genuinely saved, going to heaven as much as I am.
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But what is the truth about the Sabbath?
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Are we supposed to, you know, work on the 7th, rest on the 7th
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day? Is that the day of worship or
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the day of rest? Or what is the truth about the
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Sabbath? Well, Nehemiah Chapter 9, it
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says, Thou came us down upon Mount Sinai and spake us with
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them from heaven, and gave us them right judgments, true laws,
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good statutes, and made us known unto them thy holy Sabbath.
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Wait a minute, this is Nehemiah talking about the time Moses
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received the Sabbath from God. That's 2500 years after the
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creation. See, I don't have Moses even on
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that chart, but 2500 years after the creation, God made the
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Sabbath known to Moses. You mean for 2500 years for more
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than 1/3 of human history? Nobody kept this apparently.
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So he revealed it to Moses. He said in Exodus 16, see that
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the Lord hath given you the 7th day.
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Every man abide in his place. Don't go out of your house on
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the Sabbath day. Well, if that's really one of
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the laws for the Sabbath, then you can't have a 7th day church
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that meets someplace because everybody's going out of their
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house to get there, right? They talk about a Sabbath day's
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journey in Acts chapter 1. Jesus traveled on the Sabbath.
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OK, what's he doing out of his house?
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Bible says remember the Sabbath in it thou shalt not do any
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work. Don't you do it, nor your son,
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nor your maid servant, nor the stranger.
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Not only can you not work, you can't make anybody else work.
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Which means if you really. Want to honor and obey the
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Sabbath? According to Scripture, you
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cannot work and you can't make anybody else work, which means
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you cannot use any utilities because if you're using the city
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water, the city lights, the city gas, you're making somebody work
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if you're watching TV. You're making somebody work on
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the Sabbath. If you go out to eat, you're
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making somebody work. You can't do that.
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So he rested the 7th day. The Bible says if they worked on
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the 7th day, Exodus 31, they would be put to death.
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So you got to kill people that work on the Sabbath.
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It's punishable by death. Exodus 31 is a key passage on
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this. The Lord said unto Moses, Speak
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thou unto the children of Israel, saying, My Sabbath's ye
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shall keep. It is a sign between me and you.
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The children of Israel shall keep the Sabbath.
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I mean, it's right there. Exodus 31, It's pretty clear the
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Sabbath was for the children of Israel.
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I'm Norwegian Sabbath. God made some strange rules for
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the children of Israel because they were to be a peculiar
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people. People were to look at them and
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say, wow, that's strange. What's different about you guys
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when they were to be a testimony to the world?
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But he didn't command all the world to keep this.
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He said the children of Israel shall keep the Sabbath.
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It's pretty clear in Exodus 31. Exodus 35 says he shall kindle
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no fire, which means you couldn't start your car.
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Don't they run on internal combustion?
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You know you're starting a fire, so if you.
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Really want to keep the Sabbath. You can enjoy yourself.
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I've never met anybody, anybody who keeps the Sabbath.
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Never met one person, OK, the elders of Israel, he said in
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Ezekiel 28. He says I gave them my Sabbath
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to be a sign. Between me and them the Sabbath
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is for the children of Israel. Again, it tells us in Ezekiel
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chapter 20, Jesus was on the Sabbath day going through the
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corn. He plucked the corn because they
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were hungry and they ate it. First of all, what's He doing
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out of His house and what's he doing working on the Sabbath
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day? Did he not keep it?
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Bible says in Mark chapter 2, the Pharisee said why do you do
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that which on the Sabbath which is not lawful?
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And he said the Sabbath was made for man, not man made for the
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Sabbath. What's He doing out of His house
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and what's he doing working on the Sabbath?
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Jesus said in Mark 3, it's lawful to do good on the Sabbath
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day to save life. And they looked about, they got
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angry at him for his answer. And people today get angry at me
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because I don't keep what their idea of the Sabbath is.
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I said, look, I I keep every day as holy.
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I work seven days a week for the Lord.
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My whole life is soaked up into God's work.
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I do nothing else. This is it.
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So people say, do you, you keep the Sabbath?
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Oh, yeah. And and Monday and Tuesday and
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Wednesday. I keep them all.
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Yeah, I keep them all, do them all.
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Jesus went outside on the Sabbath.
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He took his disciples with him. What's he doing baking them?
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Sammy picked corn. He healed people.
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He got angry at the hypocrites. He's not resting and being
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refreshed, that's for sure. He's getting angry at the
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hypocrites on the Sabbath. So there's a.
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Book. I don't know that I can highly
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recommend it, but I recommend it if you can read past Peter
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Ruckman's rude, crude crafts, mean spirited technique of
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writing. Adam, you know all about that.
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He's got some brilliant logic in here.
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It's $2.00 for the book. We offer it.
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We don't sell it on the website, we don't advertise it.
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But if you want more, he's got brilliant logic and real
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abrasive, I think unnecessarily so.
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But it's good, good logic on why he's not a 7th Day Adventist.
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If you want to get that, you can get it.
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So I if you want to keep the Sabbath, you just enjoy
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yourself. But it's interesting.
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In Romans 13, he listed some of the commandments.
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Oh no, man, anything but to love one another for this.
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Thou shalt not commit adultery, thou shalt not kill, thou shalt
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not steal, Thou shalt now bear false witness.
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Thou shalt not covet. And if there be any other
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commandment like the Sabbath, it is briefly comprehended in this
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saying, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.
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He didn't list the Sabbath here in Romans 13, first day of the
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week, the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews.
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And I know there's arguments back and forth of which day are
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we supposed to meet on? I don't care, OK?
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Most churches meet on Sunday. I don't think they call it a day
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of worship, though some do. It's the day that they meet.
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The Sabbath was not designed to be a day of worship.
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It was designed to be a day of rest.
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You worship God all seven days. You rest one, That's all.
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If you want to rest Saturday, that's fine.
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So the first day of the week, the disciples came together to
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break bed. It's a New Testament tradition
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that they met on the first day of the week, First Corinthians
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16. On the first day of the week,
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let everybody lay by in store. Come bring your tithes and
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offerings in. That's when most churches meet,
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OK? Let no man judge you in meat or
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drink or holy days or the Sabbath.
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Don't let anybody tell you you're wrong on that.
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OK. People say, well, didn't the
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Pope accept evolution? Yes, they have.
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Several times the Pope's have accepted evolution and many
23:53
people have gotten upset. There have been at least three
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or four I think articles about the Pope's have accepted
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evolution as a fact. This Catholic nun said people
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who believe this creation myth, which is unscientific and not in
24:05
the Bible despite what they say, haven't really studied theology.
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I don't know how a nun can be that dumb if you don't think the
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creation stories in the Bible. What is she?
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Reading, OK, by the way, you want to do some interesting
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study, read the 10 commandments in Exodus chapter 20, and then
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go to any Catholic Church and say, hey, do you guys have the
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10 commandments? Oh, yeah.
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They'll give you a copy of them. They left out the second one
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about don't make a graven image. Their 10 commandments skip
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commandment #2 and they take commandment #10 and split it
24:35
into two commandments to make 9 and 10.
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Thou shalt not cover thy neighbor's wife.
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Thou shalt not cover thy neighbor's house, which really
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was 1 commandment. Why wouldn't they want the real
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one in there that says don't make a Raven image because their
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church is full of graven images? OK so back in the 1400s if you
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committed certain sins you could pay money to the priest and be
24:58
absolved get your sins forgiven. If you robbed a church, you'd
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have to pay $2.25. Here's the list of what they had
25:03
to pay to get out of their sin. If you burn a house, you got to
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pay 275. If you killed a layman, buck 75.
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If you forge forgery or lying, 2 bucks.
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If you eat meat in Lent, 275. If you ravish of ravish a
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virgin, 2 bucks. If you strike a priest, 275.
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Same as burning a house robbery 3 bucks.
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Keeping a priest that keeps a mistress can do so if he pays,
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225 OK. Procuring an abortion is $1.50.
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Murder of parents or wife 250. You can be absolved of all
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crimes about to pay in 12 bucks. That's what's the way to
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describe that stupid. Is that the best way to describe
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that? OK, I'm not anti Catholic.
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OK, I'm for truth. I'm against error.
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That is error to say paying money pays for your sins and
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it's error to say burning a candle pays for your sins.
25:53
And it's error to say priest father, I have sinned, you know,
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and you would you please absolve me of my sins?
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That's error. The Bible says the blood of
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Jesus Christ cleanseth us from all sin, nothing else.
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So I'm not anti Catholic. I'm simply for truth and against
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error. Keep that thought in mind.
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Here's a picture of the Pope kissing the Koran.
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The Catholic Catechism in our library out here.
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You can read it for yourself. Some of the things they believe
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are pretty interesting. They say in the Catholic
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Catechism 841, the Church's relationship with the Muslims is
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the plan of salvation. Also includes those who
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acknowledge the Creator, the 1st place, among whom are the
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Muslims. These profess to hold the faith
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of Abraham and together with us they adore the one merciful God.
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There's an excellent little bitty comic book called The
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Prophet you can get from our ministry.
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It's like $2.00 or something like that.
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By Jack Chick. He goes through the history of
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the Muslim church and how they started.
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Very few people realize it was the Catholics that started
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Islam. They started the whole religion
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purposely to try to get the Holy Land back.
26:57
For the Catholics. They built up the Islam.
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They, they funded Muhammad, they trained him, they sent a
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Catholic nun out of the monastery.
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They said, we want you to come out of your convent, go find a
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young promising Muslim, marry him and train him to raise up an
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army of Arabs to go take back the Holy Land for the mother
27:17
church. Quite an interesting story if
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you want to read about that. It it started to work but then
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it failed because the Islam got so big.
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They said, well forget you Catholic, we're doing what we
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want. And I don't think most Muslims,
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which is now what, 1020% of the world population, Islam, I don't
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think most of them know that they're really started off as a
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front for the Catholic Church. So let's cover just a little bit
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on Muslims. Ask the Muslim, how do you know
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Muhammad was a prophet? They'll say, well, he had a mole
27:46
on his back. Holy moly.
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That's that's how you know he's a prophet because he's got a
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mole on his back. I've got a mole on my back.
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Got one right here on my cheek. Man, I must be a double prophet.
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Got 2 moles, Albert. You got any moles?
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Yeah, wow. Bow down and worship Albert, you
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know. In one of the Muslim verses says
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Muhammad asked the question, when I am dead and buried in the
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ground and go back to dust, is that all?
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What will happen to me? Muhammad himself had no clue if
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he was going to heaven. This verse in the Quran says
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when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it set in a
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pond of murky water. Would that be scientifically
28:28
accurate to say, the sunsets in a pond of murky water?
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No, I would say this Earth turns around and the sun, you know,
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appears to go around the earth. This is not scientifically
28:40
accurate. The Koran has loads of
28:42
scientific errors. It's not a holy book.
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Allah commands. Any person who leaves Islam or
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encourages others to do so should be seized and slain.
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There are over 100 commands in the Koran to kill people who
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won't convert. Anybody that won't convert has
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to be killed. And I see Bush and these guys
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saying, you know, we're trying to bring democracy in Iraq.
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The problem with Iraq is their religion.
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They are being taught every couple days in the synagogue,
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you've got to kill anybody who won't convert.
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And there probably are millions of Muslims who don't like this
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and they don't want to do that. But they in order to be a good
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Muslim, you have to kill anybody else who won't become Muslim.
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That's the rules, OK? Islam is a religion that God
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requires you to send your son to die for him.
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The Bible is where God sent his son to die for you.
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Exactly the opposite OK. If you study the history of
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Jerusalem and the problems with Islam, it's phenomenal.
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Keep in mind they both come from the two sons of Abraham.
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Abraham if he wouldn't have gone down in Egypt and got that
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Egyptian girl and had that one baby Ishmael, we wouldn't have
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this whole problem because all the Arabs come from Ishmael.
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And the price of gas would not be over 2 bucks a gallon if it
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hadn't been for Abraham and Hagar.
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OK, I'll be more if the Jews had control of all of it.
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They like money too. But the Romans and Byzantines,
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you know, trampled the city of Jerusalem.
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Chuck Missler's got all kinds of stuff on the Jerusalem and the
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problems they've had with Islam over the years.
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It's been trampled down by the Gentiles.
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Bible says I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all
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people. We've got a ton of stuff in our
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college class CSE 200 series about Islam, one of the books we
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sell in our bookstore and I don't get off into every single
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religion there is, but Islam is a growing powerful religion and
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you need to study. It is this little booklet.
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Who is this Allah? On page 27 he says the last hour
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will not come before the Muslims fight the Jews and the Muslims
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kill them. That's their plan.
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The purest joy in Islam is to kill and be killed for Allah
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after killing 10s of thousands of non-Muslims in Iran.
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Ayatollah Khomeini said in Persia, no people have been
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killed so far, only beasts, because he thought they're not
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Muslims, so they're not really people.
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Allah created Adam, making him 60 cubits tall according to
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Bahara volume 4. That's 90 foot tall.
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I mean, is that you believe that Adam was 90 feet tall?
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In the third Sir, verse 105, it says in the great and final
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redemption, only white faces shall be saved.
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All black faces will be condemned.
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In other words, you got to be white to go to heaven, to the
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Muslim heaven. OK.
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In the fourth Sir, it says marry men, marry as many women as you
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like. 123 or 4IN Islam, they tell their people you can have
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four wives, but only four. So what they'll do is they'll
31:36
get 3 wives. And then the 4th, 1:00 they have
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what they call convenience marriages.
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You can marry somebody for 15 minutes and then divorce them so
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you can have all the concubines you want.
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I was only married 15 minutes. There's no law against that.
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That's their law that says you can do that.
31:50
In volume one, it says Abu reported when any of you wakes
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from sleep, he performs ablution.
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He must cleanse his nose, clean his nose three times, for the
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devil spends the night in the interior of the nose.
32:05
Good Muslims will get up in the morning, suck water into their
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nose and blow it back out three times.
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That's got to hurt. Why?
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Well, because the devil lives in your nose while you're sleeping.
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The devil crawls in. That's what they teach.
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OK, Baccarat volume 4 says the Satan stays in the upper part of
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the nose all night. Well, guess what expression we
32:25
get from that? The boogeyman, right?
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The boogeyman, Allah report, or Abdul reported.
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The Apostle Allah said people should avoid lifting their eyes
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toward the sky while supplicating in prayer,
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otherwise their eyes would be snatched away.
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If you're praying and you look up, your eyes will be popped out
32:42
of your head. He reported Muslims non-Muslims
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eat in seven intestines while a Muslim eats in one.
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Is there a biological difference between non-Muslims and Muslims?
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Do non-Muslims have 7 intestines?
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You studied anatomy Adam. Is that in there?
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Pretty much the same. If you do an autopsy I bet you'd
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find they're the same. Don boys.
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My friend up in Chattanooga, TN area has written a great book
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called Islam America's Trojan Horse.
33:08
His website's fabulous too. CST Common Sense Today news.com
33:13
you can read about more about Islam.
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Got a lot of He's really received some Flack for even
33:18
writing the book. OK what about Mormons?
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What do they believe? Are they a Christian religion?
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Joseph Smith said I see no faults in the church and
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therefore let me be resurrected with the Saints.
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Whether I ascend to heaven or descend to hell or go to any
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other place. If we go to hell, we will turn
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the devil's out of doors and make a heaven out of it.
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When this where this people are, there is good society.
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What do we care where we are if the society be good?
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Joseph Smith didn't know if he was going to heaven or hell.
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By the way, God made Aaron to be a mouthpiece to the children of
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Israel, and he will make me be God to you in his stead.
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If you don't like it, you must lump it.
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That's. What Joseph Smith?
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Said Joseph Smith said there are men living on the moon who dress
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like Quakers and live to be nearly 1000 years old.
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Well, we've been to the moon a bunch of Times Now.
34:08
Are there Quakers up there? This is scientifically
34:12
inaccurate. OK, he's wrong.
34:15
The official Mormon doctrine is someday we get to become God.
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The Mormons teach as as we are Adam or God once was.
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God used to be a man, and as God is, we shall be.
34:25
And they think Adam became God. So when they pray Heavenly
34:28
Father, they're praying to Adam. There's some good books we offer
34:32
here you can get on Mormonism. The secret history of the Mormon
34:35
Church is excellent. This shows some of the history
34:38
of how people have been killed trying to leave Mormonism.
34:42
Because if you start speaking out against Mormonism or try to
34:45
leave their religion, I mean in the old days especially, you'd
34:48
get killed. They just find you dead
34:50
someplace in the middle of the, you know, desert if.
34:54
You want to read more on that Mormonism?
34:55
A way that seemeth right is also good.
34:57
It's nothing but questions for Mormons.
35:01
There's one we offer by Thomas Hines, answers to my Mormon
35:04
friends. If you want to read up on that.
35:06
There's a good book, the Red one, Mormonism Mama and me.
35:09
This is the more gentle approach.
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It's just a grandma type. Hey, honey, you know, do you
35:15
really believe that? Now why is that?
35:17
It's kind of a a softer, gentler approach to reaching Mormons.
35:19
If you want to the ultimate authority on Mormons that I have
35:22
seen is a Gerald and Sandra Tanner in Utah, Salt Lake City,
35:27
utlm.org, Utah Lighthouse Mission.
35:29
This is real fine print of everything you ever wanted to
35:34
know and a whole lot more on Mormonism.
35:36
It is phenomenal, the stuff that the Mormons believe.
35:39
Joseph Smith forged the book. Somebody else had taken a book
35:45
to the printer to get printed. It was a Baptist who got mad at
35:48
his church and he wrote a story about it was a novel, actually.
35:53
Well, Joseph Smith apparently got that the draft copy we have
35:57
on CD available here if you want to get it, the actual
36:01
photocopies of the pages that he took to the printer and said
36:04
this is what I want printed, supposed to be the most perfect
36:07
book on earth. He said he got these special
36:09
seer stones that he would put these golden plates that he got
36:12
from the Angel maroon eye. He put them in a hat.
36:14
He'd look in there with the seer stone and he had a curtain
36:16
beside him and he would read to his friend Hiram, I believe it
36:20
was who who wrote down everything.
36:23
When he got done writing all this through the curtain, Hiram
36:25
never got to see the golden. Nobody ever got to see the
36:27
golden plates. Nobody except Joseph.
36:29
He told people about it. OK, there were no golden plates,
36:33
but he said he translated it through this special seer stone
36:35
because it was written in ancient Egyptian hieroglyphics.
36:38
It was. He's reading the text of this
36:40
book that he stole from the printer, apparently.
36:42
OK, And when he got all done writing it, they took it to the
36:46
printer to get printed. They said it's the most perfect
36:47
book book ever written. It came straight from God.
36:51
There are thousands and thousands and thousands of
36:53
mistakes in it and corrections. If you want to see the actual
36:56
one, call our office. We'll have the CD available.
36:58
I got it in my office. Stack up in Paulville.
36:59
You can. We can produce those on
37:01
Mormonism. So I'm not anti Mormon.
37:04
I'm for truth and against error and what they teach is error.
37:08
We've got a ton of stuff on Mormonism if you want to read
37:11
it. Lucy Mcsmith said Joseph was
37:14
running through the woods at the top of his speed for three miles
37:18
with the gold plates tucked under his arm.
37:22
And three people came out and he had to knock three different
37:25
people down while he's running with these plates full blast
37:28
with the plates under his arm, golden plates, three people
37:30
attacked him. He knocked him down with one
37:33
hand and kept running to the house the size of the golden
37:38
plates. This is a picture of what they
37:39
would have been. This is one that the Tanners
37:42
have in their Museum of the golden plates of the size that
37:45
Joseph Smith said they were. This is out of lead now.
37:47
Gold is a lot heavier than lead. The golden plates that size, the
37:51
dimensions were given several times in the in Joseph Smith
37:54
told them how wide they were, etcetera.
37:56
They would weigh 230 lbs. Volvo, you lift weights a lot.
38:00
Can you run with 230 lbs under one arm?
38:04
No. They have competition in New
38:05
York every year. I forget what they call it, but
38:08
they bring all these bodybuilders and huge muscle
38:10
guys in and say, let's see who can run 3 miles carrying these
38:12
plates under their arm. They got a huge prize for
38:14
anybody can do it. The farthest anybody's made it
38:17
with under one arm is 75 feet. That's walking carrying 230 lbs
38:23
under one arm. Good luck.
38:24
OK, I don't buy that story that Joseph Smith told.
38:27
I think he's lying. OK, questions.
38:29
Why did Joseph Smith try to join the Methodist Church in 1828
38:33
when in 1820 the Lord told him all of the churches were wrong
38:36
and they were an abomination? Why?
38:40
Just questions. The book Mormonism a way that
38:42
seemeth right is mostly just questions.
38:44
It's here and here we go. Now I would differ with these
38:47
guys on several things. OK, I'm not promoting everything
38:50
they believe, but this book is well done.
38:52
It's just simply questions to ask Mormons.
38:55
Like why does your one book say you have to have more than one
38:58
wife to be saved and your other book says if you have more than
39:01
one wife you're damned? Which is it?
39:05
You know, just obvious contradictions in the Mormon
39:08
religion. And again, I'm not anti Mormon.
39:11
I'm for truth and against error. Why weren't the three witnesses
39:14
in the book to the Book of Mormon taken to Joseph Smith's
39:16
house and show them the golden plates?
39:19
Why did he only take them to the woods and they saw the plates in
39:21
a vision? Nobody ever saw those golden
39:24
plates. The Book of Mormon says the
39:26
final battle between the Nephites and Lamanites was on
39:28
the hill Comora in New York. Well, there had been nothing
39:32
ever found there. No evidence at all found of a
39:34
battle where millions died. There are a couple of great DVDs
39:37
out now called The Bible versus the Book of Mormon and DNA
39:41
versus the Book of Mormon. Did you get to see either of
39:44
those, Jonathan? No, they're all, they're in the
39:45
library if you want to check those out.
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OK. According to the claims of
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Mormon, the Lord LED three groups of people from to America
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from the Middle East, the Jaredites, the Nephites, and the
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Molokites. There's no evidence of any of
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these ever been found, Nothing. There is no archaeological
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evidence to back up the Book of Mormon.
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So if you want to study Mormonism, I'd recommend those
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two DVDs that just came out in 2005 about the serious problems
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with the Book of Mormon. And again, there are 1,000,000.
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I think like 10 million people now follow Mormonism.
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Some very good, sincere, honest, intelligent people who have just
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been absolutely duped, deceived, tricked, lied to.
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Why would Joseph Smith admonish his people not to drink wine or
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strong drink and then attempt to construct a bar in the Mason
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House, Mansion House and only renege when his wife Emma
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declared Either that bar goes or I go?
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Why is he doing that? Bruce Mcconkey said.
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Thus the names titles of signify our Lord is the only Son of the
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Father in the flesh. Christ was begotten by an
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immortal, immortal Father in the same way that mortal men are
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begotten by mortal fathers. Is that correct?
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Was Christ the physical Son or this is heresy?
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OK, he was born in the same personal, real and literal sense
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that any mortal son is born to a mortal father.
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That's what the Mormons teach. Now remember, from the time
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forth and this time forth and ever, Jesus Christ was not
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begotten by the Holy Ghost. It says in the Journal of
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Discourses, Mormonism is not a Christian religion.
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They it's a cult in every sense of the word.
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There are all kinds of errors in what they teach.
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We'll cover more on that in our college class.
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What about Jehovah's Witnesses? Well, we could spend 2 days on
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Jehovah's Witnesses. I just recommend you get the
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book Answers to My Jehovah's Witness Friends.
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There are other ministries that deal just with that.
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There's a good little pamphlet. You can get 15 Reasons why I'm
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not a Jehovah's Witness. Here's the address on the
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screen. You can get
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mcgregorministries.org. There are people who have taken,
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you know, God has letting them on their heart to, you know,
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witness to the Jehovah's Witnesses and they, they're very
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sincere, really duped. One of the craziest religions on
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the planet has got to be Jehovah's Witness.
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As I go speak on creation and evolution, and especially when I
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do debates, there's always somebody during Q&A time at the
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university that says there are contradictions in the Bible.
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As a brand new Christian, age 16, I went to the Methodist
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Church camp one more time because I'd been going to the
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Baptist Church. But at the Methodist Church camp
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where I had been going before, the counselor sat us boys down
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on the bed and said, hey, guys, who are you?
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You know, how old are you, where do you live, etcetera.
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And we told them our names. We're all sitting around in the
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bunks there. And he said, well, my name is
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whatever it was, George or something.
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He said, I'm a student at University of Illinois and I
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want you to know I'm a humanist. Well, I didn't know what a
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humanist was. So I said, does that mean you
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believe in humans? He said, well, I do believe in
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humans, but no, that's not what that means.
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He said, I said, well, do you believe the Bible?
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He said, well, the Bible is a good book, but it has lots of
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errors. Now I had only been saved for a
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few months, but I was smart enough to know because my
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preacher told me if anybody ever says the Bible's full of errors,
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hand them your Bible and say show me one.
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So I handed in my Bible and says, well show me one.
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He said I'll be glad to. Here's what he showed me.
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Genesis chapter 1. Bible says pretty clearly in
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chapter 1, the earth brought forth grass and herb yielding
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seed and fruit trees. This happened on the third day.
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The counselor said, Kent, when did God make the trees?
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I said day three. He said, All right, verse 20 day
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five, let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature
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that hath life and fowl. Let me fly above the earth.
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He said, can't. When did God make the birds?
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I said day five, He said what did he make the birds out of?
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I said, well, it looks like he made them out of the water,
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correct? You know, he made Adam out of
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the dirt, made Eve out of a rib, made the birds out of the water.
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That's what it says. OK, verse 24, let the earth
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bring forth the living creature. He said, now can't.
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What did God make the creatures out of?
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I said he made them out of the earth.
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He made the birds out of the water, made the animals out of
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the dirt. And then he made man.
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He said that's chapter 1. Now look at chapter 2.
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And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground.
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And the Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden.
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And there he put the man whom he have formed and the Lord God
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made grow every tree. He said, wait, wait, wait.
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I thought the trees were made on day three and man on day 6.
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Here we have the man made and then the trees after man.
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Which is correct? Were the trees made before man
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or after man? Have you ever been in an
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argument with somebody and you knew you're losing?
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You've been, you get married, guys know about that.
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You just know I'm losing this argument.
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OK, You might as well stop right now, all right?
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You might as well just quit verse 18.
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The Lord God said it is not good that the man should be alone.
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I will make him and help meet for him.
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And out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the
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field and every fowl of the air. Oh, here we got 2 problems.
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You got the animals made after man, and you got the birds made
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after man, and the birds are made out of the ground instead
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of out of the water. He said can't.
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The Bible's a good book, but it's got lots of contradictions.
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Just in the first two chapters. Did the chapter one say the
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grass, plants, trees made on day three?
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Chapter 2 has plants and trees made after man on day 6.
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Chapter one has birds made out of the water on day 5.
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Chapter 2 has birds made out of the ground on day six.
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Chapter one has animals made before man.
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Chapter 2 has animals made after man.
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He said the Bible's a good book, but it's not God's word.
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I'd only been saved a couple of months, and I was crushed in my
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faith. It seems to happen to every
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young Christian. Satan sends somebody along to
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destroy their faith and get him derailed.
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Well, that caught me. I'll tell you what.
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The rest of that week is camp. At camp.
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I was defeated, young Christian. Well, I wish I could find that
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guy today. I can answer his question now.
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OK, here's what happened. On the third day, God made the
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plants, OK, grass, plants, trees.
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On the 5th day, He made the birds out of the water.
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On the 6th day he made the animals, and then he made man.
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And then he made the garden and put the man in the garden.
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Now all of chapter 2 is describing what happened in the
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garden, only it's not describing the whole world.
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God made more trees, and it's only the two kinds, the trees
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that are good for food and the trees that are good to the site.
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Beautiful garden. The rest of the world's already
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full of trees. He's describing what happened in
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the garden. And then he made one more of
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each animal so that Adam could name them and select a wife.
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And so while Adam standing there up out of the ground is coming
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one more of each animal. Now the rest of the world's
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already full of animals. This is just for Adam to see God
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do it and to make a wife and to create a wife, to select a wife.
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Up comes a giraffe. He says, giraffe, no thanks.
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You know, hippopotamus, No thanks.
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You know, elephant. No thanks.
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Hamster, no thanks. You know, 1 by 1.
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Adam names all the animals and rejects them as a wife.
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And then the Lord says, Adam, go to sleep, son, I've got a
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surprise for you. And you wake up, put Adam to
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sleep, took one rib and made the world's first loudspeaker.
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I mean, the world's first woman. OK.
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And so this is only describing what's happening in the garden.
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Now. It's interesting if you look at
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the sequence here, Adam actually saw God create things.
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Eve never saw that. Suppose God had made Adam last.
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Satan could walk in and say, Hey Adam, how do you like this
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beautiful garden I made? And Adam would have doubts the
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rest of his life. Well, who really made this?
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I don't know. I trust you God, but I don't
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know he. There's no way he could know.
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Now the fact is Eve never saw God create anything.
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So who did Satan go to to trick Eve?
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The weaker vessel? First Timothy says, so that's
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what happened. There are no contradictions in
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the Bible. Chapter 1 and chapter 2 of both,
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fine. The Bible says in First Timothy,
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Adam was first formed, then Eve, and Adam was not deceived, but
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the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
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Adam knew full well what he was doing when she walked up and
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handed him that banana or whatever it was and say it's an
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apple. I don't know.
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We don't know. It's a fruit, OK?
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He said, oh, brother, Eve, you blew it.
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He looked at that. He knew if I don't become sin
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for her, God's going to have to kill her.
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I think Adam, knowing full well what he was doing, voluntarily
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took that fruit, ate it and said, God, whatever you do to
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her, you got to do it to me too. That's what I think.
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Just like Jesus Christ voluntarily became sin for us so
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that he could save us and we can become the bride of Christ.
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That'll preach. OK.
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As a young Christian, I was reading my Bible and God came
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across Second Chronicles chapter 4.
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And it says Solomon made a great sea of 10 cubits from brim to
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brim, and five cubits the height thereof, and a line of 30 cubits
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did composite about. I read that.
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I set my Bible down on my bed and I said Lord.
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This is wrong. If it's 10 cubits across, it's
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not 30 cubits around. Anybody that studies mathematics
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knows to find the circumference of a circle.
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It's diameter times Pi 3.14159265.
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I said it should not be 30 cubits around.
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It should be 31 point. You know, 415 sit 9 cubits
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around. Why did he say 30 cubits around?
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I thought there was an error in the Bible and I was going to
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quit Christianity. And I read the passage and read
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it and read it and read it and said wait a minute, wait, wait,
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wait. I'm missing something here.
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Verse 5 says it was a hand breadth thick.
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That's a lot of brass that thick.
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And the brim of it was like the work of the brim of a cup.
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There are two theories of how to solve this supposed
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contradiction. One theory says it was 10 cubits
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outside to outside, not counting the thickness of the brass.
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Now that'll work. If you take 10 cubits elbow to
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fingertip, subtract 2 hand breadths and calculate
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backwards, you get a value of π for the inner circumference of
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3.14159. It'll work fine.
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You can give. It a try.
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The other theory is that it says it had a brim like a cup.
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The bowl went up and had a brim coming out.
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So it's 30 cubits around the bowl.
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But 10 cubits across, brim to brim, counting the little lip
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sticking out like most cups are bent out just a little bit.
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Either theory would probably solve the problem.
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No, there are no contradictions. So first King says Solomon made
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this molten sea that held 2000 baths.
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A bath is about 8 gallons. Yet second chronicle says it
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held 3000 baths. What was it?
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2000 baths or 3000 baths? By the way, 3000 baths, 24,000
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gallons is a small to mid sized swimming pool.
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OK? It's the kind you put in your
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backyard. That's 24,000 gallon pool.
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That's a lot of water or oil or whatever they're going to put in
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this thing. Well, Second Chronicle says it
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held 3000 baths. First King says it contained
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2000 baths. Is that a contradiction?
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No, it's not full. It's 2/3 full.
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OK, it could hold 3000, but it's only got 2000 in it.
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How many horses did Solomon have?
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This is a contradiction the atheists always bring up.
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First King says Solomon had 40,000 stalls of horses for his
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Chariots and 12,000 horsemen. 2nd Chronicle says Solomon had.
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4000 stalls for horses and Chariots and 12,000 horsemen.
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Well which is it 40,000 or 4000? Now we sell on our website the
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Defenders Bible by Henry Morris. I love Henry Morris and the
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Defenders Bible. He's a good personal friend of
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mine and son John Morris, good friend of mine.
51:05
Love what they're doing. In the Defender's Bible, he's
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got a footnote right here that says this is a copyist error.
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He says this number is given as 4000 in Second Chronicles.
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This is best explained as a copyist.
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Error. Well, I read that and I wrote a
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letter to Henry Morris and said, brother, I love you.
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I sell your Bible, but I'm going to have to put a disclaimer in
51:25
the front page. You have a mistake, actually
51:28
quite a few mistakes in your footnotes and so I have a one
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page disclaimer that goes with our defenders Bible that we
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sell. They've got a stack up and
51:35
shipping if you want to read it. That says we love Henry Morris.
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He's got many good notes in here, but like anything, you got
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to eat the meat and spit out the bones.
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He's wrong about this one. There is not a copyist error.
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Both of those verses are absolutely fine.
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Read them carefully. Solomon had 40,000 stalls of
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horses for his Chariots. Does that tell me how many
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Chariots he had? No, that tell me how that tells
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me how many horses he had for the Chariots, right.
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For second Chronicles and Solomon had 4000 stalls for
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horses and Chariots. Oh, no, that's that's.
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Different, apparently he had stalls for the keep, the horses
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and Chariots, and he had other stalls just for the horses for
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the Chariots. Well, if they had 40,000 stalls
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of horses for the Chariots and he had 4000 stalls for horses
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and Chariots, they had ten horses per stall, 10 horses.
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Per chariot. I'm sorry, not a contradiction
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at all. King James got it exactly
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correct. Ten horses per chariot.
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They would never put one horse per chariot.
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I mean, 1 arrow takes out the whole tank.
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They had chariot teams. Actually.
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NIV got it wrong. New American Standard got it
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right. I collect other viable versions.
52:47
I got a bunch of them here. New Revised Standard got it
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wrong. How many men did David kill
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707,000? We'll look at the passages
52:54
carefully. The Syrians fled before Israel
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and David slew the men of 700 Chariots of the Syrians first
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chronicles David slew of the Syrian 7000 men which fought in.
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Chariots. Well, which is it?
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700 or 7000? Read it carefully again.
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Henry Morris has a footnote here that says this is a copyist
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error. No, I'm sorry.
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Henry, it is not a copyist error.
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Both verses are fine. Look at them carefully.
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If he slew the men of 700 Chariots and he slew 7000 men
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which fought in Chariots, what does that mean?
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10 men per chariot. They had 10 men and ten horses.
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They had chariot teams. You go out, you fight for a
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while, you come back, you swap out.
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See, the chariot does not get tired.
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The men and horses get tired, and the chariot is your tank.
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You don't want to lose that thing.
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So somebody gets wounded, you know, hurt.
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Bring them back, swap out. They had chariot teams.
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NIV got it wrong. He killed 700 of their
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charioteers and 7000 of their charioteers.
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There's a clear contradiction. Most of the new Bible versions
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that I'm aware of have some real serious contradictions built in.
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I'm not aware of any in the King James Bible says in Genesis 10,
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these are the sons of Shem after their families, after their
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tongues. So the languages are divided in
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chapter 10, but you read Chapter 11, it says the whole earth was
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of one language. When I debated Pharrell Till,
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who's the editor of Atheist Magazine up in Illinois.
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He said oh the Bible's got a contradiction.
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Chapter 10 says the languages were divided up and Chapter 11
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says the whole world's of one language.
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See Bible's wrong. Ferrell Chapter 11 is recapping
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like giving a headline. Suppose you saw the headlines in
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the paper 10 children killed in school bus accident.
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Then you start reading the article and it says the bus was
54:43
driving down Hwy. 12. You say, wait, I thought, I
54:45
thought they had a wreck. Yeah, the headline is
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summarizing the story, and now they're going back and giving
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the details. OK, Chapter 10 summarizes the
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story, and Chapter 11 is going through and given some of the
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details. Not a contradiction.
54:58
There's another supposed contradiction how many died in
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the plague #25 says those that died in the plague were 20 and
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4000. When you read the story in First
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Corinthians it says there fell in one day three and 20,000 Well
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which is it? 24,000 died in the plague
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according to numbers or is it 23,000 died in the plague?
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Again read it carefully. No contradiction.
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How many died in the plague? 24,000 How many died in one day
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23,000 Well 1000 died the next day from the same plague.
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It's not a contradiction at all. So we go through in our college
55:34
class quite a few of the supposed contradictions in the
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Bible. If you think there are some, you
55:39
can contact our office on our during our radio program.
55:43
We have all kinds of time we can take.
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Hour and a half question every day on questions supposed
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contradictions in the Bible or questions on creation or
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evolution. Another contradiction people
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often ask about. Is isn't the word Easter in the
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King James Bible an error? Didn't they make a mistake here?
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Every other version of the Bible, and I've got a whole
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collection of them here on the table.
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They use the word Passover in Acts chapter 12 verse 4.
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Look up Acts 12 four and they say after Passover King James
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says after Easter. Well let's read the passage and
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see what the truth is. OK.
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About that time Herod the King stretched forth his hands to vex
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certain of the church, and he killed James the brother of John
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with a sword, and because he saw it pleased the Jews, he
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proceeded further to take Peter also.
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Then were the Days of Unleavened Bread, and when he apprehended
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him, he put him in prison, delivered him to 4 quaternions
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of soldiers, intending after Easter to bring him forth to the
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people. Is Easter a mistake?
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All the other versions say Passover right there.
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Well, let's go back and study the original Passover.
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In Exodus chapter 12, the Lord said to Moses, Aaron and Aaron.
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He said this month, talking about April.
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It shall be the beginning of months.
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It shall be the first month of the year.
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To you speak unto all the congregation of Israel.
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In the 10th day of this month, take a lamb.
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April 10th, you pick out a lamb, keep it up for four days.
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On the 4th day, April 14th, you kill it and you eat it that
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night. That was the Passover when they
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were getting ready to go out of Egypt.
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OK. And then you put the blood on
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the two side posts, and on the top of your door it says they
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shall eat the flesh that night. April 14th, kill the lamb, put
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the blood on the door, eat the lamb that night.
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Verse 11, it's the Lord's Passover.
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Eat it in haste, have your shoes on, hold your staff in your
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hand. Juice today, still go through
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this. You know every year they go
57:30
through the Passover celebration.
57:32
Amazing to watch. We did this as a kid.
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My mom had us do this several times.
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We loved it. OK.
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Verse 14, this day shall be unto you a memorial.
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You shall keep it a feast. Verse 15, seven days shall you
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eat unleavened bread. Here's the sequence. 10th day,
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pick out a lamb, watch it for four days, make sure no
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blemishes. 14th day, kill it. That night is the Passover.
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The death Angel passed over the children of Israel.
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If they had the blood on the doorpost, eat the eat it that
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night. For the next 7 days you're going
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to be traveling around running from Pharaoh, and so you eat
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unleavened bread. They had their kneading troughs,
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put the bread in there but no leaven, wrapped it up, put it on
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their shoulder, carried it around through the wilderness
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and ate unleavened bread for seven days.
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That was the seven days of unleavened bread.
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And they still today do that to commemorate with this the great
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Passover. It reminds them.
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So for seven days they eat unleavened bread.
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Verse 17 You shall observe the feast of Unleavened bread 18 in
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the first month, in the 14th day of the month at even, you should
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eat unleavened bread until the one and 20th day of the month.
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At even starting the 14th, for the next 7 days till the 21st,
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eat unleavened bread. Numbers Chapter 28 The 14th day
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of the first month is the Passover and the 15th day of the
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month is the feast. 7 days shall unleavened bread be eaten.
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So here's the sequence of events.
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The Passover was always at night on April the 14th.
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For the next 7 days they ate unleavened bread that always
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followed the Passover. Now there was a Pagan festival
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of Ishtar or Ashtar or today called Ishtar is Easter.
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That was a Pagan festival that always came near the end of
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April and it was so many days after the first full moon.
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And they had all kinds of formulas to figure out when this
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day come. And we still use the same
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formulas today to calculate when Easter is.
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But Easter was a Pagan holiday to commemorate the earth
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regenerating itself. You know, things start to grow
59:22
again. You got Easter ladies.
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And so that's why they have all kinds of regeneration symbolism
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in the in the Easter holiday, Easter Bunny, like Playboy
59:32
Bunny, OK, all that stuff on fertility symbols, Easter
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rabbits, the Easter eggs, those are all symbols of fertility.
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And it is definitely a Pagan holiday.
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Now, is it something worth fighting and beating somebody up
59:44
over? No OK, Christ did rise from the
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dead. And if you want to celebrate
59:47
that day, that's fine. People get carried away over
59:49
these holidays and they go around, you know, refuse to
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celebrate any holidays. I don't think you ought to do
59:54
that. But you need to understand
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Christmas and Easter both are Pagan holidays.
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No question. That date anyway is but.
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I don't think it's nothing worth beating somebody up over.
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So the feast days are never called Passover anywhere in
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scripture. Peter was arrested during the
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Days of Unleavened Bread. It says so very clearly in Acts
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12. Which means the Passover was
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already gone. Has to be Herod wanted to kill
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him during his own Pagan festival of Easter coming up in
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a few days. King James is the only version
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to get it right. Look at Acts 12.
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Now verse 3 then were the Days of Unleavened Bread, and when he
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apprehended him, he put him in prison, delivering to 4
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quaternions of soldiers to keep him, intending after Easter to
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bring him forth to the people. King James is the only one that
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got it right and we'll cover more on that in a minute.
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The guy who invented the word Passover is William Tyndale.
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He made-up that word and he didn't use that word in Acts 12
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and in his translation. Let me cover more of that in our
1:00:49
college class. How did King Saul die?
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This heretics will say, well, look, it's got a contradiction
1:00:55
here in the Bible, in First Samuel chapter 31, it says Saul
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took a sword and fell on it and killed himself.
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He committed suicide. He asked the armor bearer, hey,
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will you kill me? I'm wounded.
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The guy said, no, I'm scared. And so Saul killed himself.
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When you read chapter 2, the this guy walks up to the King
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David at the camp and says, hey, here's Saul's crown and his
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jewelry. You know, I killed him because
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he knew David and Saul were enemies.
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And the Amalekite said, I stood upon him and slew him because I
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was sure that he could not live. After that, he was fallen.
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Well, did he die by suicide or did he die by the malachite?
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There's no contradiction here. He died by suicide, and this
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guy's lying. He's hoping to get a reward.
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Hey, David, I killed Saul. Haha.
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Give him my reward, please. David's reward was.
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I'm going to cut off your head, son.
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OK, so there's all kinds of supposed contradictions in the
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Bible, and we cover a lot of these in our college classes.
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Or you can call into our radio program.
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We'll just cover a couple more because we can spend forever on
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supposed contradictions. There's a book called The Errors
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in the King James Bible by Peter Ruckman.
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It used to be called Problem texts.
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It's basically the same book with a different cover on it.
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But in here he covers 500 of the supposed contradictions in the
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Bible. We've got about 90 pages of data
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on supposed contradictions in our website.
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On our downloadable section on articles about contradictions,
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Here's one atheists always get to me.
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They'll say, was Jonah swallowed by a whale?
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Or a fish. If you read Jonah chapter 1 says
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the Lord prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah and he was
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three days and three nights in the fish's belly.
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OK, verse 2, chapter 2, verse 1, he was in the fish's belly.
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But when you read the story in Matthew chapter 12, it says
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Jonah was 3 days and three nights in the whale's belly.
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And the atheist will say, aha, see, the Bible's wrong.
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A fish is not a whale's not a fish, ha ha, ha ha.
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Well, in our modern 21st century classification system, a whale
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is not a fish. But in the biblical
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classification system, a whale is a fish if it swims in the
1:02:54
waters. A dolphin is a fish in biblical
1:02:56
classification system. So you can't take, you know,
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Carolus Linneus's classification system in the last 200 years and
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superimpose that on the Bible and call the Bible wrong.
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No, it's a whale and a fish are the same thing in biblical
1:03:08
classification. And we could talk about some of
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the little minor stuff. There's about 500 passages that
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people commonly say are mistakes in the Bible, and all of them
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are covered in Ruckman's book. He's a little rude, crude and
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unnecessarily mean about it, but it's he's right.
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OK. His logic is really good.
1:03:23
This one. The atheists love coming up with
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this one. They'll say, well, do insects
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have 4 feet? And I say no, well, sort of
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because I know where they're headed with that one.
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In Leviticus Chapter 11 it says these may eat of every flying
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creeping thing, the locust, the beetle, the grasshopper, but
1:03:39
other flying living things which have 4 feet shall be an
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abomination unto you. They'll say.
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See, insects have 6 legs. Everybody knows that Moses must
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have been stupid or there's a contradiction in the Bible.
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Well I'm sure Moses saw plenty of insects during his life and
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he knew about the six legs. Why did he say 4 feet?
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Well, insects do have 6 legs. According to our way of
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thinking. We have a model here of a giant.
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This is giant mosquito. OK, somebody made forests out of
1:04:15
copper pipe and they say see it's got 6 legs.
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Well sort of spiders do they have 8 legs?
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Well, we better be cautious here.
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How we define this. If you look at the Bible
1:04:28
carefully, you'll see in the book of Proverbs chapter 30, it
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says the spider taketh hold with her hands.
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Could it be that four of them which point backwards are
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considered feet and the four that point forward are
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considered hands? Just because we consider them
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all 8 legs doesn't mean the spider considers them eight
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legs. If a spider is going to do
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something like, you know, maneuver things around, it's
1:04:56
going to use its hands. How about the mosquito?
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Does he have 6 legs or 4 legs and two hands?
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Just because he happens to walk on all six of them doesn't mean
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they're all legs. I don't think there's a
1:05:11
contradiction in the Bible. We could.
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It's been forever on supposed contradictions in the Bible.
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So people say Bill Hoeven, Why do you use the King James, man?
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It's old English, nobody can understand it.
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It's hard to read. I understand all that.
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And as a brand new Christian saved out of the Methodist
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Church, my mom gave me every kind of new Bible version there
1:05:30
was when if a new one came out, hey son, you're going to love
1:05:33
this one. So I've got a huge collection of
1:05:34
all the Bible versions. When I was 16, I had the reviled
1:05:38
substandard perversion of the Bible.
1:05:39
It's here someplace, my original copy.
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But I was reading that going to church, going to this little
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independent, temperamental, fundamental, right wing, radical
1:05:46
chicken eating Baptist Church, and the preacher was banging on
1:05:48
the pulpit saying the Bible's the word of God.
1:05:49
And I was making notes in my revised standard version.
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And after a couple of months, he said, Brother Hovind, you've
1:05:55
been a Christian a few months now, it's time you get a Bible.
1:05:59
I said, I got a Bible. He said, no, you need a real
1:06:01
Bible. I was offended.
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OK I got a Bible, I've been making notes, I've been reading
1:06:06
an hour a day. What do you mean?
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He said, well there's real problems with that one.
1:06:10
So why King James, it's been 3337 years now?
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Because as a Christian of you know, studying this topic, why
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look at Psalms chapter 12. The words of the Lord are pure
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words as silver tied in a furnace of earth, purified 7
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times. Thou shalt keep them, O Lord,
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Thou shalt preserve them from this generation forever.
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What does the word them refer back to in that verse?
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Thou shalt preserve them. Preserve what?
1:06:39
His words? He's promising He's going to
1:06:42
preserve his words, right? How about NIV?
1:06:46
The words of the Lord are flawless, like silver purified
1:06:48
in the furnace of clay. Purified. 7 * O Lord, you will
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keep us safe and protect us from such people forever.
1:06:58
Is that saying the same thing? I mean, I was born at night, but
1:07:01
it wasn't last night. It looks to me like somebody's
1:07:04
wrong about this one. OK, what does this mean to keep
1:07:08
us from such people? What people is it talking about?
1:07:10
There are very serious differences between these Bible
1:07:13
versions. We've got a book.
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I don't know if I have it here. It's in our library.
1:07:17
The guy sent it to me. It took me 6 months to figure
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out what the title said. I read, I said one out of
1:07:22
something else. Every time I look at the book, I
1:07:24
said, what is this? The title was things that are
1:07:26
different are not the same. I thought, well, duh, why would
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you title a book like that? You know, things that are
1:07:32
different are not the same. And then I thought, wow, these
1:07:35
Bible versions are definitely different, so you can't say
1:07:37
they're the same. There are, as far as I
1:07:39
understand it, 151 English translations of the Bible right
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now available. The law is you cannot get a
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copyright and therefore protect your work and therefore get more
1:07:50
money unless you have 10% different from the original.
1:07:55
Are there 151 different ways to say each of the verses in the
1:07:59
Bible? At some point, you're going to
1:08:02
have to stop saying it the right way and say it the wrong way
1:08:04
just to make it different, just to get your copyright, just to
1:08:06
get your money, love of money, root of all evil.
1:08:08
Here's a quick story. We could take an hour on this
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one. But right after the time of
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Christ, the disciples were writing their books and they
1:08:14
were being persecuted and spreading out, you know, and
1:08:16
people were copying these letters and copying the Gospels
1:08:18
and spreading them out. Persecution hit the church and
1:08:21
they spread out everywhere. And for the next 1000 years, it
1:08:23
was horrible persecution against the church.
1:08:26
And if they caught the heretics, the Christians, they would burn
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them at the stake and burn their Bibles.
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Well, people were spreading the word of God around, making all
1:08:34
kinds of copies. It takes about 10 months to
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write out a copy of the Bible using a pen.
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You don't even have a good ink pen.
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You got a feather and you got to keep dipping it in the ink and
1:08:42
keep cutting a new point on it. You don't even have a good ink
1:08:44
pen nor do you have good paper to write on, you know, blumpy
1:08:46
parchment, stuff like that or leather.
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But anyway, with all the obstacles they had, plus, you
1:08:50
know, being persecuted, it took about 10 months to write out
1:08:53
handwrite a copy of the Bible. Well, they're making all these
1:08:57
copies. By the time you get to 15 and
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1600s, persecution lets up. And so people decided to collect
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the Bible copies together from all over the world and, and
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compare them and put it into English.
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Now keep in mind some of these copies of the Bible had not seen
1:09:13
each other in 1000 years. There might have been people in
1:09:17
France that were copying the Bible and people in Africa
1:09:20
copying the Bible and people in China copying the Bible.
1:09:23
And they have you can only use a book so long and it wears out.
1:09:26
I've got I don't know how many absolutely worn out Bibles.
1:09:30
OK. I think I have probably 5 or 6
1:09:32
that I have just flat, they're shot.
1:09:34
OK, If you're going to a book that's in active use is going to
1:09:39
have a limited life, and let's just pick a number and say if
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you were really careful with your scrolls, I mean, treat it
1:09:46
real carefully, you might make a scroll last 300 years and still
1:09:50
use it every day, just for illustration.
1:09:53
Well, so in 300 years, your original is worn out.
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It's trash, it's junk. You throw it away because you
1:09:59
now have, you know, 800 copies of this thing or certain large
1:10:02
number of copies. Then you take those copies and
1:10:05
make copies, and after maybe 1000 years you might be on your
1:10:09
4th or 5th generation from the original, but that's perfectly
1:10:11
fine. It doesn't matter as long as the
1:10:13
copying process was accurate. And a good way to check that
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copying process and see was it accurate is after you.
1:10:20
After each of these, you know, the French ones and the German
1:10:22
ones and the English ones and the Chinese ones each go 5
1:10:24
generations. Now let's get the 5th generation
1:10:27
and compare them all and see how accurate they are.
1:10:29
And that's what happened in the 15 and 16 hundreds.
1:10:31
They got all these scrolls together, found 5000 copies of
1:10:34
the Bible that survived the persecution, and they were
1:10:37
identical in everything except spelling people's names, you
1:10:40
know, Peter and Pedro, stuff like that had changed.
1:10:42
So they said, man, God truly preserved his word.
1:10:46
It's this is it. This is word for word exactly.
1:10:48
He preserved it. So meanwhile down in Egypt,
1:10:53
there was a group of folks, sort of like Jehovah's Witnesses.
1:10:55
I've got the Jehovah's Witness Bible here.
1:10:58
They were a cult that came to be known as the Alexandrians.
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The Alexandrians did not believe in the deity of Christ.
1:11:06
They didn't believe in the bodily resurrection.
1:11:08
They didn't believe in a lot of Christian things, kind of like
1:11:10
Jehovah's Witnesses today. So they made their own copy of
1:11:13
the Bible, changing things they didn't like.
1:11:17
They made about 6000 changes. The primary guy in this cult was
1:11:21
a guy named Origen. He was the leader of this cult
1:11:23
in late 2nd century, 3rd century.
1:11:26
The only mention of Alexandria in the Bible is when they were
1:11:28
disputing with Stephen arguing with the real Christians.
1:11:32
And if you. Trust the principle of first
1:11:34
mention, which I think is very important.
1:11:36
Then that'll be important to you to say, wow, the only mention of
1:11:38
these folks is bad. And so anything out of
1:11:41
Alexandria, anything out of Egypt period in the Bible that
1:11:43
seems to be bad, you know, but the origins started.
1:11:47
This was the primary guy in this cult.
1:11:49
They made copies of their Bible also with their changes in it,
1:11:53
and some of them survived. In 350 AD, several copies were
1:11:58
made and three of those still survive today.
1:12:01
One was found in the Vatican Library and it's called
1:12:03
Vaticanus. One was found in Alexandria,
1:12:05
Egypt, and it's called Alexandrus in the Latin.
1:12:08
And one was found in Sinai Peninsula in a monastery.
1:12:11
There's this old monastery at the foot of this mountain that
1:12:14
some Pharaohs or some Princess said that's Mount Sinai.
1:12:16
And it's not Mount Sinai, by the way.
1:12:18
But she said, oh, that's Mount Sinai.
1:12:20
OK Yes, ma'am. And so they call it Mount.
1:12:21
They still call it Mount Sinai. There's still a monastery there.
1:12:24
It's not in Sinai Peninsula, It's in Arabia.
1:12:26
Read Galatians 4. But they, they're in this trash
1:12:29
can in this old monastery this guy was visiting.
1:12:32
He said, what's this old scroll? He said, oh, we don't know.
1:12:34
It's been in there for years. You know, he pulled it out.
1:12:36
It was a copy of the Bible, if you can call it that, from 380
1:12:41
to 350 AD. And so that one's called
1:12:45
Sinaiiticus. Well, these three scrolls do not
1:12:48
agree with each other on anything, nor do they agree with
1:12:51
the real Bible, OK, They're all different.
1:12:54
The Catholics or the monks translated this, these three
1:12:59
ancient scrolls into Latin centuries ago, and it became
1:13:02
known as the Latin Vulgate. Vulgate for vulgar means, the
1:13:05
common language. OK.
1:13:07
Then the Catholic, by the way, that the Latin Vulgate was a
1:13:09
really good translation of a bad book.
1:13:12
Then the Catholics came along in 1582 and translated the Latin
1:13:15
Vulgate into English with the Douay Confraternity or the Douay
1:13:18
Reims version of the Bible, and that was a really good
1:13:21
translation of a bad book. Then two guys named Westcott and
1:13:26
Hort came along. I've got their book here
1:13:28
someplace on the table. Westcott and Hort came along and
1:13:31
they were going to make a new. Yeah, here we go.
1:13:33
The Westcott Hort only controversy, a little bitty
1:13:37
booklet about if you want to study this, just two 2 bucks
1:13:39
from our ministry. Westcott and Hort were two Greek
1:13:42
scholars. I don't know if they were even
1:13:44
Christian or not. They probably claimed that they
1:13:45
were like a lot of people do. OK.
1:13:47
But they took these 3 old ancient, ancient manuscripts.
1:13:51
They didn't agree with each other, but their thinking was
1:13:54
these are older, therefore they are better.
1:13:57
Well, I'll go along with the older part.
1:13:59
I'll agree with that. But that doesn't mean they're
1:14:00
better. But they synthesized him into
1:14:02
one new Greek manuscript and sold it to the world in 1875 and
1:14:06
said we have the oldest and best manuscripts available now for
1:14:11
you to translate. And they got the oldest ones all
1:14:13
right, the oldest ones that survived is all.
1:14:16
Doesn't mean better. Then people started taking their
1:14:18
Westcott and Hort version and translating it into English.
1:14:22
First one done 1881 as the Revised Standard, then the
1:14:25
American Standard, the Revised Standard, the Revised Version.
1:14:28
Revised Version first, then the Jehovah's Witness Bible, the New
1:14:31
World Translation done in 1950. This was a good translation,
1:14:35
fairly good translation of a bad book.
1:14:39
Then the new American Standard, the NIV, the Good News, the
1:14:41
Amplified, the Living Bible, all of those, and I have a lot of
1:14:44
them, There's a new American standard.
1:14:47
I think the guys who are doing this are sincere, dedicated,
1:14:52
highly intelligent, godly Christians who are translating
1:14:58
the wrong book and don't even know it.
1:15:01
There are basically only two Bibles in the world in English,
1:15:06
the ones translated from what's called the majority text, the
1:15:08
King James, of which there are now 64,000 manuscripts.
1:15:12
At the time King James guys did it, they only had 5000.
1:15:15
And then there's the whole other family of Bibles, all translated
1:15:18
from the Westcott and Hort. So you have two choices.
1:15:21
The question is not is it a good translation?
1:15:23
The question is what are they translating?
1:15:25
OK, the excellent book by Wescott and Hort if you want to
1:15:28
read about that. Here's for instance, NIV Acts
1:15:30
chapter 8. Let's see Adam read verse 37 to
1:15:33
me. Acts 837.
1:15:37
I can't. Do.
1:15:39
It you can't do it, it's not there.
1:15:43
There is no Acts 837. They removed it and they removed
1:15:46
the number. OK, Now in the new American
1:15:47
Standard, they at least put a footnote.
1:15:50
In Acts 837 it says see footnote, but the verse is gone
1:15:56
down at the bottom it says late manuscripts insert verse 37.
1:15:59
No, no, no, no, no guys, you got it all wrong.
1:16:02
Those supposed early manuscripts you're going on are the ones
1:16:05
that took it out. It wasn't that the later guys
1:16:08
inserted it, it's that the earlier guys took one out.
1:16:11
That's all. There are over 200 verses
1:16:13
totally missing from the NIV. There's a good book,
1:16:16
Understandable history of the Bible, Sam Gib, great big book,
1:16:20
excellent book, really good on understanding the history of how
1:16:22
we got our Bible or GAIL Riplinger's book, In Awe of Thy
1:16:26
Word. It's like 1200 pages and it's
1:16:28
only like 15 bucks or 18 bucks or something.
1:16:30
Really, really a good one. There are many, many books that
1:16:32
we offer on the King James controversy.
1:16:35
If you want one that's toned down and kind of, you know,
1:16:38
sweet, gentle and mild, this would be it.
1:16:41
By Sam Gib, The answer book, excellent book on why King
1:16:45
James, the language of the King James.
1:16:47
Why do they use these old words, thee and thou and stuff like
1:16:50
that? Oh, there's a good reason for
1:16:51
that. But the whole thinking that
1:16:52
older is better is simply wrong. And how is Satan going to use
1:16:55
these new versions toward bringing in his new world order?
1:16:58
Well, this one, the New Age Bible versions, is excellent by
1:17:02
GAIL Riplinger, PhD in English. So older does not mean better.
1:17:05
I have worn out many Bibles over my 37 years of being a
1:17:08
Christian. Older doesn't mean better.
1:17:11
So there are more manuscripts of the Bible than any other old
1:17:14
book. Homer's Iliad, for instance,
1:17:16
only has about 650 manuscripts. In 1946 they found 24,000 more
1:17:21
manuscripts. Then the Dead Sea Scrolls were
1:17:23
discovered, and now they have 64,000 manuscripts that support
1:17:27
the King James and three complete manuscripts and 46
1:17:30
fragments that support the Alexandria.
1:17:34
Then the Isaiah scroll found in the Dead Sea Scrolls was
1:17:37
actually 1000 years older than the other manuscripts.
1:17:40
So there's plenty of good books available on that.
1:17:42
There are all kinds of things we could talk about on the problems
1:17:45
with the King James, problems with the other versions, like
1:17:47
Second Samuel 21, who killed Goliath, who killed Goliath?
1:17:51
David killed Goliath. Second Samuel 21 says El Hannon,
1:17:55
the son of his dad, slew the brother of Goliath.
1:18:00
NIV says El Hannon, the son of the same guy, killed Goliath.
1:18:05
This is an error, OK? It's wrong.
1:18:08
It's they blew it all right. They left out verses and we
1:18:11
could scan through some of these as all these verses are left
1:18:13
out. There's a list on their website,
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avpublications.com of verses that are left out. 200 verses
1:18:19
are simply gone and those that are still in there many times
1:18:22
are changed to something meaning totally different.
1:18:24
For instance, Hosea Chapter 11, Judah yet ruleth with God.
1:18:29
NIV Judah is unruly against God. Would you say that as saying the
1:18:35
same thing? Judah is also unruly against
1:18:38
God. It's not saying the same thing.
1:18:40
Thy dwelling shall be the fatness of the earth.
1:18:42
Genesis 27. That's one of the blessings.
1:18:45
Your dwelling shall be away from earth's richness.
1:18:49
Away from the fertility of the earth shall be your dwelling.
1:18:51
They're saying the opposite, folks.
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It's not the same. Proverbs 18.
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A man that hath friends must show himself friendly.
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What's that mean? If you want to have a lot of
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friends, then be friendly. NIV.
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A man of many companions may come to ruin.
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Are these saying the same thing? Am I missing something here?
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If you got a lot of friends, you'd be ruined.
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That's what it says. That's not at all correct.
1:19:15
The Bible says in Matthew 7 that narrow is the way, straight is
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the gate, and narrow the way that leadeth to life, and few
1:19:21
there be that find it. Revised standard says the gate
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is narrow and the way is hard. Wait, is it hard to go to heaven
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or just not many do it Now they use the these and the thous, and
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there's a reason for that. And then we'll go on another
1:19:33
subject here. If a word starts with Y, it is
1:19:36
plural, ye, your, etcetera, OK? If it starts with T, it is
1:19:41
singular. And there's an important reason
1:19:43
nobody in 1611 was walking down the street saying how art thou
1:19:46
today? They weren't using that.
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But the King James translators wisely chose to use the these
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and the thous because of the distinction.
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If I walk into a room and say you come with me, does that mean
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one of you or all of you? You can't tell.
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But if you use thee and thou, you can tell.
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You can see in John chapter 3 very clearly.
1:20:07
Jesus said to Nicodemus, Marvel not that I said unto thee,
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Singular ye must be born again. He changed it to plural.
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I'm telling you that everybody must be born again.
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That's a really important distinction.
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Otherwise he'd be saying, Nicodemus, I'm telling you that
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you got to be born again. Well, how does that apply to
1:20:26
Kent Hovind? It wouldn't apply.
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The fact is it's very precise in the King James.
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So we can talk all day about that.
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We'll cover more in our college class.
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I think the whole concept you need to get in your head is God
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promised he would preserve his words.
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So where is it? I would like to hold a copy of
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it. And after 30 some years, I was
1:20:45
slowly dragged kicking and screaming into the King James
1:20:47
camp. God preserved his word for in
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English and we've got it. A couple of verses really
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attract my attention because of I speak my Speaking of creation
1:20:55
all the time. Ephesians chapter 3 and verse 9,
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King James says to make all men see what is the mystery, the
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fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world
1:21:05
hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus
1:21:09
Christ. There are two important phrases
1:21:13
here. It says from the beginning of
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the world. That's a definite time He
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created things by Jesus Christ. Colossians one says the same
1:21:23
thing. Jesus created all things.
1:21:24
Jesus is God in the flesh. Well, a lot of these new Bible
1:21:28
versions come from the Alexandrian and they did not
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believe Jesus was God in the flesh.
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And they bookstores of course, want to sell lots of Bibles,
1:21:38
love of money, root of all evil, and they don't want to offend
1:21:40
anybody. So hey, let's sell a Bible
1:21:42
version that doesn't offend people.
1:21:44
So look what they did with Ephesians 39, which for ages
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past was kept hidden in God who created all things.
1:21:53
Well, they left off Jesus. You don't want to offend people,
1:21:55
you know, and they made it ages past instead of from the
1:21:58
beginning. Nearly all the new Bible
1:22:01
versions have changed it to say ages, ages, ages and they leave
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off Jesus in every case except for the new King James.
1:22:07
They left Jesus in there but they still call it ages past.
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That's the only one I could find that left Jesus in there.
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But they all changed it to ages. They don't want to get this
1:22:17
definite 6 day, you know, young earth creationist because they
1:22:20
might offend people and again lose money.
1:22:23
Now, we could spend hours on different problems with these
1:22:26
verses. The last one that bothers me is,
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is it the first day in Genesis 1/5 or is it one day?
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Every version that I found says one day, King James says the
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first day. Why would they change it to one
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day? Well, again, they're trying to
1:22:43
allow for the long periods of time and I don't understand how
1:22:46
somebody can read Genesis 1/5 and still believe there's a gap
1:22:49
between verse one and two of any amount of time more than an
1:22:52
hour. The first day, it's couldn't be
1:22:56
more clear in my mind, a question that I get asked just
1:22:59
about every week as I travel. What about the Bible codes?
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Is it true that there's a hidden code in the Bible in the Hebrew?
1:23:05
Well, there are all kinds of books that have been written
1:23:06
about the Bible code question and we'll cover those in a
1:23:08
second. But let me give you the basic
1:23:10
concept. Grant Jeffries has a great
1:23:13
chapter, just one chapter, but in his book called The Signature
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of God about this topic, the Bible codes.
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Here's the concept. If you take the Hebrew language
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and only the Hebrew and only the King James backed Hebrew by the
1:23:23
way, and you put it in a computer with every single
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letter in a continuous string of letters you can make like an
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acrostic, and by skipping letters, you end up with finding
1:23:33
other words hidden in there. For instance, in every 13
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letters in Deuteronomy, chapter 10 spells out in the bitter Sea
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of Auswitch, the famous concentration camp for Adolf
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Hitler, every 22 letters spelled out Hitler.
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Other phrases found in this passage were all kinds of things
1:23:50
dealing with Adolf Hitler. How can that be not just in the
1:23:54
text, but in the skipping of the letters?
1:23:57
Are there hidden messages in the Bible?
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Well, I'm going to say this. I don't know, but I think so.
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I wouldn't be dogmatic on this. Chuck Missler, good friend of
1:24:06
mine, has a lot of stuff on this.
1:24:08
He's got a great book called The Cosmic Codes, if you want to
1:24:11
read about that. He said, who's Chuck Missler?
1:24:13
Well, he worked for years as a cryptologist doing code work for
1:24:17
the government, OK, for many years.
1:24:20
OK, he's in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, but he's got some good
1:24:23
stuff on the Bible codes. You can get his website, K House
1:24:27
for coin tonight, khouse.org. Good stuff on Bible codes.
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These are some of the things found just in Deuteronomy and
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Numbers about Hitler, in skipping the letters you find
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Hitler, Auswitch, Holocaust, the Holocaust crematorium, Poland
1:24:40
plagues, the Fuhrer, Eichman, king of the Nazis, genocide,
1:24:43
auswitch Germany, Hitler, Mein Kampf.
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I mean, it may be just a little more than coincidence that these
1:24:48
things are hidden in there. Something, there must be a
1:24:52
reason for that. If you count in Proverbs chapter
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30, every 22nd letter spells out Jesus.
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There must be something to it. Clear.
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Back in the 16th century, long before they had computers, one
1:25:05
rabbi said the secrets of the Torah are revealed in the
1:25:08
skipping of the letters. Here's an example of how it can
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work. Ribs explained that each code is
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a case of adding every 4th letter to form a word.
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READ, read the code. You skip every 4 letters.
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There's a hidden message inside this sentence.
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That's what Bible codes is all about.
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Is there a hidden message inside the Bible in addition to the
1:25:32
message you're reading? Is there something else in
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there? Well, I don't know, but in
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Genesis, if you skip every 49 letters, you can spell out
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Torah. Interesting. 49, seven sevens.
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If you go to the book of Exodus and skip every 49 letters, you
1:25:49
spell out Torah again, which is the Hebrew Old Testament, you
1:25:53
know, for God's word, the Torah. OK, every 49 letters.
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If you go to the book of Numbers and skip every 49 letters, you
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spell out Torah backwards. And if you go to Deuteronomy and
1:26:04
skip every 49 letters you spell out Torah backwards.
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Well wait a minute. Genesis, Exodus spelled it
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forward. Leviticus doesn't have it.
1:26:12
Numbers, Deuteronomy, spell it backwards.
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They're both pointing back to Exodus.
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Exodus every 7 letters spells out Jehovah, Yahweh.
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Could it be there? You know, Genesis, Exodus,
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Numbers, Deuteronomy are all pointing to the Lord.
1:26:29
I mean maybe that's just a pure coincidence, but I think the
1:26:32
mathematical possibility of that is real close to 0.
1:26:36
It's almost like there must have been something to it.
1:26:38
The Torah always points to God anyway.
1:26:41
Who created God? Every week I get some atheist or
1:26:44
skeptic call into my radio program or come to my seminar
1:26:47
and say hey hovind you said the earth is 6000 years old and God
1:26:50
created the world and who created God?
1:26:53
I say well your question assumes that God needed to be created.
1:26:58
Actually your question assumes 2 things, that God needed to be
1:27:01
created and that God is locked in time like we are.
1:27:04
Both of those are faulty assumptions.
1:27:07
If God is infinite and outside of time, then he didn't need to
1:27:12
be created, He just is. Now the fact that my brain and
1:27:15
your brain won't hold that doesn't matter, but it's the way
1:27:18
God reveals himself. Here's Discover magazine, what
1:27:21
happened, what existed before The Big Bang?
1:27:25
So in Genesis 1 it says in the beginning, well what was before
1:27:28
that? I'm going to have to say
1:27:30
nothing. There was no time before that.
1:27:33
The question where did God come from or what did God do before?
1:27:36
The creation assumes that God is sitting around locked into time
1:27:39
like we are, and he has to wait for things to happen.
1:27:42
No, he doesn't. He's not stuck in time.
1:27:44
We are stuck in time. But both views, creation and
1:27:47
evolution, assume a beginning of some kind.
1:27:49
OK, you have to have a beginning.
1:27:51
Even the evolutionist will say nothing.
1:27:53
It really means nothing. Not only matter and energy would
1:27:56
disappear, but also space and time.
1:27:59
Now they know full well, and it's exactly correct, that if
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you have, you have to have time, space and matter come into
1:28:05
existence simultaneously. See, if you had matter but had
1:28:10
no space, where would you put it?
1:28:12
If you had space and matter but had no time, then when would you
1:28:15
put it? You got to have time, space,
1:28:18
matter, a continuum come in. I mean, if you had length and
1:28:21
width but no depth, you have nothing.
1:28:24
It only exists in the imagination.
1:28:26
OK God says he inhabits eternity in Isaiah.
1:28:30
Deuteronomy says he's the eternal God.
1:28:33
Isaiah says he look unto I am God, there is none else.
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OK, I am the almighty God. Well, if he is the Almighty God,
1:28:40
then he is not controlled by time, space or matter.
1:28:44
He is right now in tomorrow and Genesis one has an amazing
1:28:49
Trinity of trinities in the beginning.
1:28:50
That's time, which has three dimensions by the way, past,
1:28:52
present, future. God created the heaven that.
1:28:54
Space which has three dimensions linked with height.
1:28:57
And the earth matter has three dimensions, solid, liquid, gas.
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A Trinity of Trinity is just in 10 words.
1:29:03
He says he did it. OK, I all I can do is believe
1:29:07
that. Now in Revelation 10, it says
1:29:09
someday there shall be time no longer at the end it's over.
1:29:13
There's no more time. And we got some beautiful songs.
1:29:16
So Amy, your husband plays the guitar and violin or not violin,
1:29:18
banjo and plays, you know, we sing all these great songs in
1:29:20
church, you know, when we've been there 10,000 years.
1:29:23
Well, that's a wonderful song and I love it, but it's not
1:29:26
true. We're.
1:29:27
Not going to be there 10,000 years.
1:29:28
We're going to be there time space matter must be created
1:29:32
simultaneously. God says he did it.
1:29:35
So the question what did God do before the creation is an
1:29:38
invalid question. He is outside of time space
1:29:42
matter out totally outside of it.
1:29:44
Nearly 200 times in the Bible, God says I am he is, he is, he
1:29:49
is present. See, right now it is not 2005.
1:29:53
Soon to be 2006 in a couple days in heaven.
1:29:58
There's no time there, no time at all.
1:30:01
He is outside of time, space, matter.
1:30:03
Jesus said I am, He's claiming to be God.
1:30:05
I am, I am. It's all through the Bible.
1:30:07
Abraham before Abraham was I am. They were going to stone him
1:30:09
when he said that one because they knew he was claiming to be
1:30:12
God. I am the door, I am the vine, I
1:30:15
am the light of the world. I am the Good Shepherd.
1:30:17
He over and over they knew he's claiming to be God and they
1:30:20
didn't like him for it. Well, you know why he claimed to
1:30:23
be God? Because he was.
1:30:26
Next question, who wrote the book of Genesis anyway?
1:30:28
I mean, here we got a Bible claiming to be written by God
1:30:31
and we say, well, we know men wrote the Bible.
1:30:33
I mean, come on, God didn't write the Bible.
1:30:35
And who wrote Genesis? Well, this is really a
1:30:37
fascinating question. Who wrote that book of Genesis?
1:30:40
The skeptics for years like Doctor Pruitt Eric, he wanted me
1:30:43
to his. I've debated him four Times Now
1:30:44
at University of West Florida. He's a Genesis scholar.
1:30:47
He believes that four different authors wrote Genesis.
1:30:50
This is what the Germans higher critics started teaching about
1:30:52
160 years ago. They said, well, if you read
1:30:55
through Genesis, there are four different authors, but you can
1:30:57
tell by the style of writing and they called it JEPD for Yaoist,
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Eloist, Priestly and Deuterist. And they're actually partially
1:31:05
correct. There are different styles of
1:31:08
writing in Genesis. If you look at Genesis chapter
1:31:10
1, God created the heaven and earth.
1:31:12
God said God saw, God divided. God said God called 31 times.
1:31:17
It uses the word God. When you go to chapter 2,
1:31:20
starting with verse 4, there's a change.
1:31:22
It says Lord God, Lord God, Lord God, Lord God.
1:31:26
All through chapter 2, it's using a different name for God,
1:31:30
a totally different style of writing.
1:31:31
People that study Hebrews say, wow, it's a new person's writing
1:31:34
this, correct? So who wrote Genesis anyway?
1:31:40
Well, the book of Mark chapter 12 tells us in the book of
1:31:42
Moses, it talks about, you know, how God said to Abraham certain
1:31:45
things. That's obviously referring to
1:31:47
Exodus. So here the New Testament is
1:31:50
telling us that Moses wrote Exodus.
1:31:53
In Deuteronomy it says if a man dies, has no children, the
1:31:56
brother marries the wife and the first child gets the inheritance
1:31:59
of the dead father to make sure property doesn't get scrambled.
1:32:01
Up. OK, that was the law they had.
1:32:03
OK, well if you read in Luke, Moses wrote raise up seed, dear
1:32:08
brother. So here Luke is telling us
1:32:10
pretty obviously that Moses wrote Deuteronomy.
1:32:13
With a little search and through scriptures, you could prove
1:32:15
conclusively that Moses wrote Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers,
1:32:18
Deuteronomy. No question.
1:32:20
It never mentions Moses as the author of Genesis.
1:32:22
So who wrote? Genesis.
1:32:24
Actually, Moses was the editor of Genesis.
1:32:27
He collected it, but there were 10 different eyewitness accounts
1:32:31
in Genesis. Adam actually wrote part of
1:32:33
Genesis, the way to tell where it breaks off 10 different times
1:32:37
in the book of Genesis you will find the phrase these are the
1:32:39
generations of. That's the switching phrase
1:32:43
where a new author is now is taking over.
1:32:45
Apparently God wrote the 1st chapter.
1:32:48
There's no way anybody else would have known those things
1:32:51
but chapter 2, Adam was there for chapter 2 and Adam wrote
1:32:54
chapter 234. Chapter 5 he switches off.
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Now keep in mind Moses edited Genesis from 10 eyewitness
1:33:03
accounts. He probably had the written on
1:33:04
clay tablets, we would assume preserved as a pottery record
1:33:08
forever. You write on the clay, bake it
1:33:09
in the sun, and it lasts a lot longer than a book lasts.
1:33:12
And Noah would have taken some of these on the ark with him the
1:33:14
first few chapters, you know, get a little box of clay tablets
1:33:17
and carry it on the ark. OK.
1:33:19
The fact that other people wrote down their account before Moses
1:33:23
got around to doing it does not mean they got it right.
1:33:26
And the skeptics will say, well, the Sumerian legend was written
1:33:29
before, before Moses even lived. That's correct.
1:33:32
And they'll say, see, that proves Moses was copying from
1:33:35
them. No, if you got 10 people or 20
1:33:38
people that witness an event and they all go home and they're
1:33:41
going to write their story about what they saw the first one to
1:33:44
publish his story does not necessarily have it right.
1:33:48
The fact that somebody published first doesn't mean they got it
1:33:50
right. Genesis 5 says this the
1:33:52
generations of Adam. Adam right there is signing off
1:33:56
probably again. Clay tablets makes a permanent
1:33:59
record last for millennia. Chapter 6 is these are the
1:34:02
generations of Noah. Noah is signing off right there.
1:34:06
He wrote actually chapter 5 and part of chapter. 6.
1:34:09
In chapter 10, verse one, these are the generations of the sons
1:34:12
of Noah. Noah's sons wrote part.
1:34:13
They wrote some more, and then Shem wrote some more after that.
1:34:17
Shem apparently was interested in keeping track of where all
1:34:19
the grandkids are leaving to. And the Genesis chapter 10 is
1:34:22
called the table of nations, and it goes through 75 different
1:34:25
original nationalities. And he kept track of all of
1:34:29
them. Oh, yeah.
1:34:29
Oh, my Uncle Herman had three kids, and these are his kids.
1:34:31
And there's where they went. I mean, they just my brother, my
1:34:33
oldest brother is very interested in family trees.
1:34:36
He went over to Norway to study the Hovind family tree, you
1:34:39
know, and you find all kinds of people hanging from their neck
1:34:43
in a family tree. But some people are just
1:34:45
interested in genealogies, All right?
1:34:47
I know people that spend their lifetime trying to chase back,
1:34:49
you know, like the movie Roots, you know, where did my ancestors
1:34:52
come from? Well, apparently Shem was the
1:34:54
guy of the three sons who was interested or God led him to do
1:34:57
it, whatever. But he kept the records.
1:34:59
In Genesis 10 is called the Table of Nations.
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It's kind of boring to read, but it just tells all the sons and
1:35:03
what happened to them. OK verse Chapter 11, These are
1:35:07
the generations of Terra. Chapter 25, These are the
1:35:10
generations of Ishmael. These are generations of Isaac,
1:35:16
generations of Esau. When you read through chapter 35
1:35:20
of Genesis, you read it and say, what is this doing in here?
1:35:22
It's all the Dukes of Edom, you know, Duke and the Dukes of
1:35:25
Hazzard and all these Dukes in here.
1:35:26
You know, what's all these Dukes doing in here in chapter 3635,
1:35:30
chapter 36? Why?
1:35:32
Well, the guy who wrote that chapter was interested in that,
1:35:36
and God wanted it preserved in His word.
1:35:37
But it's very interesting. No dates are given for these
1:35:40
guys and how old they were when their sons were born.
1:35:42
The only ones that get the dates mentioned of how old they were
1:35:45
when their son was born are those in Direct Line to
1:35:47
genealogy of Jesus Christ. Nobody else matters, apparently.
1:35:51
OK, it's true. They were there and they were,
1:35:53
you know, good people love the Lord, but they don't matter.
1:35:55
Jacob wrote part of it 10 times in Genesis.
1:35:58
You see the phrase, these are the generations of there's a
1:36:00
great footnote in Henry Morris's Defenders Bible.
1:36:03
I've got one around here somewhere, but we sell the
1:36:05
Defenders Bible. We mentioned that earlier.
1:36:06
I got a disclaimer. I disagree with some things, but
1:36:08
it's really good. And his article about the the
1:36:11
Teledoth, it's called Teledoth is fascinating about the Genesis
1:36:15
author. You know, 10 different authors
1:36:16
of Genesis. So the skeptics are partly
1:36:20
right. There are different authors, and
1:36:22
it's always wise to listen to your skeptics.
1:36:25
You know, if somebody comes, atheist comes up and says you
1:36:28
got bad breath, well, they might be right, OK?
1:36:31
Now, if they say you know you're wrong about the Bible, then
1:36:33
they're wrong, OK? But Genesis 10 different
1:36:36
authors, fascinating story, all of them eyewitnesses, which
1:36:40
makes it even better. Of course, God could have
1:36:43
written it yesterday and gotten it right.
1:36:45
OK, He could inspire somebody tomorrow to write it and get it
1:36:47
perfectly correct. Not a problem.
1:36:49
He can preserve his word. But the fact that it was done
1:36:51
through 10 different eyewitnesses to me kind of adds
1:36:53
even more credibility about this.
1:36:57
The question I get again, just about every week is how did they
1:37:00
have days before the sun? Guys like Hugh Ross say, well,
1:37:03
maybe the first three days are different because they didn't
1:37:05
have the sun. So they might be billions of
1:37:07
years long. Well, they made the plants on
1:37:09
day three, so I doubt that's billions of years waiting for
1:37:12
the sun to come up. OK, but how did they have light
1:37:15
before the sun? In Genesis 1 three, God said let
1:37:19
there be light. This is the Hebrew word or there
1:37:23
are two different words in Hebrew.
1:37:24
For light we have one word in English I would say that is a
1:37:28
light and it produces light. We only have one word, but it
1:37:33
means two different things. We know by the context of what
1:37:35
we're talking about. I'm talking about turn on the
1:37:37
light or light up the room. You know, 1 is the substance or
1:37:43
whatever light is and the first one is or second one is the the
1:37:46
source of the light. God said God called the light
1:37:50
day and it was on the first day. Well, apparently God in Genesis
1:37:54
1 energized this universe with His voice.
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He spoke and the electromagnetic spectrum was created.
1:38:01
All the energy waves permeated everything.
1:38:04
There's another word used in verse 14 for light giver.
1:38:08
It's the Hebrew word mayor. Let there be lights in the
1:38:11
firmament, the mayor. That's the source of the light
1:38:15
as opposed to just the light. So God made them for lights.
1:38:19
That's the mayor, to give light upon the earth, the greater
1:38:22
light to rule the day, that's the mayor.
1:38:23
Verse 16, the Lord is my light. Psalm 27, that's or not mayor,
1:38:29
OK. He is the light, not just the
1:38:31
source of the light. He is the light itself.
1:38:32
OK. In New Testament they use the
1:38:34
Greek word foes like we would word phosphorus or
1:38:36
phosphorescent. God is light, radiance.
1:38:40
All right, when I consider the heavens, the stars that God
1:38:43
made, the Bible says the stars sang together and there's a
1:38:46
long, long conversation you can get into about, you know, the
1:38:49
energy from Starlight and from sunlight, maybe even has music
1:38:52
involved with it besides just light.
1:38:55
It might also have music. In Revelation 21, it says they
1:38:58
have no need of the sun because God is the light thereof.
1:39:02
The Lamb is the light thereof. The 1st 13 verses of the Bible,
1:39:06
there is no sun, but they have light.
1:39:08
The last 26 verses of the Bible, there is no sun, but they still
1:39:12
have light. So it would not be correct to
1:39:15
say you have to have the sun in order to have a day.
1:39:18
That one spin of the Earth in relation to anything is a day.
1:39:23
Our Earth turns once every 24 hours, and we start our day at
1:39:26
midnight when the sun's not even out.
1:39:28
If the sun disappeared tomorrow, how long would our days be?
1:39:32
24 hours. Not for long because we don't
1:39:35
die. But, you know, at least they'd
1:39:37
still be 24 hours. We just wouldn't know about it.
1:39:38
OK, We wouldn't be here. I think God created the sun
1:39:42
later in the creation week purposely so his children would
1:39:44
know. Don't worship it.
1:39:47
Worship him, not the sun. Many ancient cultures worship
1:39:51
the sun. You can go down to Mexico and
1:39:52
see all the little sun symbols, every place, all the gift
1:39:55
stores. You know, some people have them
1:39:56
hanging on their walls. You know, Sun day comes from,
1:39:59
you know, of course, all the days of our week are named after
1:40:01
Pagan holidays. Saturday for Saturn, Saturn day,
1:40:04
Monday for Moon day, Tuesday for Thor's day.
1:40:08
All of them have Pagan origin. The names of our weeks, days of
1:40:11
our week do OK. Where was the Garden of Eden?
1:40:13
The Bible says God put a garden eastward in Eden.
1:40:15
So where was this beautiful garden?
1:40:18
It says in Genesis 2. The river went out of Eden,
1:40:20
parted into 4 heads and one of them was named Euphrates and
1:40:23
people said aha in Baghdad there's a river called
1:40:25
Euphrates. So that proves the Garden of
1:40:27
Eden was in Baghdad, no? Anybody that studies this can
1:40:32
tell you the Garden of Eden was in Pensacola.
1:40:34
Florida, I mean, quite obviously.
1:40:38
I don't think there's any possible way to know where it
1:40:40
was. OK?
1:40:40
The flood ruined everything. There's a city called New York
1:40:44
named after York, England. There's a city in Ontario called
1:40:48
London ON. I preached there.
1:40:51
Guess what it's named after? London, England.
1:40:54
When people came over from Europe to the New World, they
1:40:56
said, oh, wow, that looks like, you know, the old country.
1:40:58
Let's call it the same name. That's all it is.
1:41:02
No one gets off the ark. They've been floating around for
1:41:04
a year. They have no clue where they
1:41:05
are. And I see a river.
1:41:08
Wow, that reminds me of the river and the Garden of Eden.
1:41:09
Let's call that one Euphrates. OK.
1:41:11
You got to pick new names. Say it's a whole new world.
1:41:13
You get to pick whatever name you want.
1:41:14
Garden of Eden's probably under 500 feet of mud or sand in
1:41:17
Pensacola, FL. I don't think there's any
1:41:19
possible way to tell. Now, Gilbert Vincent, good
1:41:21
friend of mine, he's convinced the Garden of Eden is Jerusalem,
1:41:25
and he gives some pretty convincing evidence for that,
1:41:27
that that's where it was. That's the center of God's
1:41:29
attention. I don't know.
1:41:30
I don't know how you could know such a thing.
1:41:32
But the world was totally destroyed by that flood.
1:41:34
Everything was wiped out. No possible way to know where
1:41:38
the Garden of Eden was. The Bible says nothing died
1:41:40
before Adam sinned. Man brought death into the
1:41:43
world. And guys like Hugh Ross will
1:41:45
say, well hey, didn't Adam eat plants?
1:41:47
Don't plants die? Well, that assumes plants are
1:41:50
alive. OK, look at Genesis chapter one,
1:41:53
verse 11. God said, let the earth bring
1:41:55
forth the grass, the herb, the fruit trees, and so the earth
1:41:58
brought forth grass, herbs and trees on the third day.
1:42:03
Plants are made on day three, sun made on day 4.
1:42:05
Verse 14 are the plants alive? Verse 20 And the moving creature
1:42:11
that hath life was created on the 5th day.
1:42:14
Oh wait a minute, He just told us on the third day He made the
1:42:17
grass, plants, trees, and he made the moving creature that
1:42:20
hath life on the 5th day. Is that implying that the plants
1:42:24
don't have life? If the things that have life are
1:42:27
made on day five, then maybe the plants don't have life in the
1:42:30
biblical sense. Living creatures made on day 5.
1:42:34
Genesis 124. Let the earth bring forth the
1:42:36
living creature after its kind. Living creatures made on days
1:42:40
five and days six, apparently. Genesis 129 God said, I've given
1:42:44
you every herb bearing seed. Every beast of the earth shall
1:42:47
eat the green herbs. He says everything we're in
1:42:51
there is life. I've given green herbs.
1:42:54
It looks to me like there's a distinction here.
1:42:56
Things that are green and herbs and vegetables don't have life
1:42:59
because the living things are supposed to eat them.
1:43:01
All right? Cain brought the fruit of the
1:43:03
ground. Abel brought the firstlings of
1:43:06
his flock, and God did not respect the fruit of the ground.
1:43:09
It doesn't have life. You can't get blood out of a
1:43:12
turnip, is the expression. It's got to have life, got to
1:43:16
have life and blood and death to please God.
1:43:19
Without the shedding of blood, there's no remission of sin.
1:43:21
Genesis 6. God said I even I do bring a
1:43:24
flood of waters upon the earth to destroy all flesh, wherein is
1:43:27
the breath of life. Every living thing of all flesh
1:43:31
shalt thou take come into the ark, the fowls, the critters,
1:43:34
etcetera, and take unto thee of all food that is eaten.
1:43:38
Again, is there a distinction here?
1:43:40
Living things get in the Ark and the.
1:43:41
Food, which would obviously be the plants.
1:43:43
I think there's a distinction. OK, the beasts, the cattle, the
1:43:46
creeping things, the fowls. Wherein is the breath of life?
1:43:49
Bible talks about the breath of life in the animals.
1:43:51
All flesh is not the same flesh. There's one of men, one of
1:43:54
beasts, another of birds, different kinds of flesh.
1:43:56
He says in Genesis 9, every moving thing that liveth shall
1:43:59
be meat for you, even as the green herb in Genesis 9.
1:44:04
He says now you can eat things that live and move.
1:44:06
Whereas before you could eat the green herbs.
1:44:07
Again I see a distinction. Living plants are not alive in
1:44:12
the biblical sense. The life of the flesh is in the
1:44:14
blood. Leviticus tells us the life of
1:44:17
the flesh is the blood thereof. He says in Leviticus 17 You
1:44:21
shall not eat that which dieth of itself.
1:44:23
Well, if you can't eat that which dieth of itself, don't we
1:44:27
wait and eat the fruit, nuts and stuff after they fall off the
1:44:29
tree? Would that be a violation?
1:44:31
If they're alive, then they died and fell off the tree and you
1:44:34
ate it, you have a problem. Soon as you pick it off, you'd
1:44:38
have to actually eat them on the tree, climb up the tree and try
1:44:42
to eat the apple without breaking it loose.
1:44:43
You know, if you otherwise you'd violate this scripture.
1:44:47
The Bible talks about the tree of life which bear 12 manner of
1:44:50
fruits. The fruits can give you life,
1:44:53
but the fruit itself I don't think is alive.
1:44:56
The Bible says leaves fade, they wither, they fade over and over.
1:45:00
The Bible says they wither, they wither, they fade.
1:45:02
It doesn't ever say they die. The reeds and flags shall
1:45:05
wither. Isaiah 19 The reeds shall
1:45:07
wither. Isaiah 40 they shall wither.
1:45:09
OK all through the Bible you see the leaves wither and they fade.
1:45:13
They are not alive because they don't have breath.
1:45:17
They don't have blood. They don't have a soul.
1:45:19
They're not alive. A car can die, but it's not
1:45:22
alive. It's the word die.
1:45:23
It's just a word we use. A computer can die.
1:45:25
There's this blue screen of death.
1:45:26
Paul, will you get that once in a while?
1:45:28
This computer died. OK.
1:45:30
Oh, no. Now what do I do?
1:45:31
Right. The wind can die down, A dream
1:45:33
can die, but none of those things are alive.
1:45:35
It's just an expression. A plant is a complex self
1:45:39
replicating food source. It has no blood, no breath, no
1:45:42
soul. They are not alive in the
1:45:44
biblical sense. So when Adam ate the fruit in
1:45:46
the garden, he was not killing anything.
1:45:49
Adam brought death into the world and but death did not
1:45:52
include plant life. What does Adam mean?
1:46:00
The Bible says Adam was the first man.
1:46:03
What does Adam? Mean.
1:46:05
Interesting question. I get that once in a while the
1:46:08
names in the Bible have very important meanings.
1:46:11
God gave him those names for a very specific reason.
1:46:15
Adam, Seth, Enos, Canaan. Well, Adam means man, Seth means
1:46:20
appointed Enos means mortal, Canaan means sorrow, Mahalio
1:46:23
means the blessed God, Jared means shall come down, Enoch
1:46:28
means preaching, Methuselah means his death shall bring,
1:46:31
Lamech means the despairing and Noah means rest.
1:46:36
So if you put it all together, man is appointed mortal sorrow,
1:46:38
but the blessed God shall come down preaching that his death
1:46:41
shall bring their despairing rest.
1:46:42
Even the names in the Bible are trying to get a message across.
1:46:45
Pretty amazing. So years ago I was talking to a
1:46:49
friend of mine in Mobile, AL he I spoke at a church over there
1:46:52
and I've known him for 20 years and he said, brother Hovind,
1:46:55
let's go to McDonald's. I want to show you something.
1:46:57
So we went to McDonald's had lunch and he tore 2 pieces of
1:47:00
paper out and he wrote on there Mr. Flat and Mrs. Flat.
1:47:03
I said OK, he laid him on the table.
1:47:07
He said, now you taught geometry, right?
1:47:08
I said yeah. He said, I want you to imagine
1:47:10
that you are Mr. Flat and you live in Flatland, 2 dimensions.
1:47:15
There is no third dimension. You have length and width, no
1:47:17
height. I said OK.
1:47:19
He said, suppose I as a three-dimensional being would
1:47:22
like to reveal myself to you, but you live in flatland.
1:47:26
How can a three-dimensional person express himself to A2
1:47:29
dimensional person? Well, you're going to have a
1:47:32
real problem here. He said.
1:47:34
If we have Mr. Flatt and Missus Flatt, they're flat.
1:47:37
All Mr. Flatt sees a Missus Flatt is a straight line and he
1:47:40
can walk around and figure out she's actually a rectangle.
1:47:42
He can perceive the depth, but he can only see the width.
1:47:46
You and I can see width and height.
1:47:49
You do not see depth. You perceive depth.
1:47:51
They call it depth perception. You could take a picture of what
1:47:54
you're looking at and it would look exactly on flat paper, the
1:47:57
same as it does in real life. OK, so he said, if I want to
1:48:01
reveal myself to Mr. Flatt or Missus Flatt, I walk over and I
1:48:04
stick my finger through the table.
1:48:06
Mrs. Flatt or Mr. Flatt comes over and says, oh, I've seen
1:48:08
Kent Hovind, he's a circle. All they see is a cross section
1:48:12
of my finger. Now then I stick three fingers
1:48:15
through the circle over here and Mrs. Flatt says, Oh no, I've
1:48:17
seen Kent Hovind, he's three circles.
1:48:18
And they're going to split the church and start the Church of
1:48:21
the one circle and the Church of the three circles, I'm sure.
1:48:23
But neither one understands me. They've each only seen just a
1:48:27
little bitty slice of the real me.
1:48:30
So when God wanted to reveal himself in this little 3
1:48:34
dimensional world, he came down in the form of a man, Jesus
1:48:36
Christ. There's an interesting verse in
1:48:38
Ephesians chapter 3. It says that we may be able to
1:48:41
comprehend with All Saints what is the length and depth and
1:48:44
breadth and height and to understand the love of Christ
1:48:47
which passeth knowledge. Now wait a minute, there are 4
1:48:49
dimensions given there. Length, depth, breadth and
1:48:53
height. Is there more to God than we
1:48:56
understand? I would say probably so.
1:48:59
Probably a lot. More to God than we understand.
1:49:02
And I doubt anybody can say I understand everything about God.
1:49:04
If the infinite God would fit in my little 3 LB brain, he would
1:49:07
not be worth worshipping, that's for sure right?
1:49:10
What about the races? Where do they come from?
1:49:12
Well, you don't have to look around the world very long
1:49:14
before you realize there are different colored people out
1:49:15
there. I remember as my first time I
1:49:18
saw a real black person. I don't mean brown, I mean black
1:49:22
came from Africa. Black is my coat.
1:49:25
I was in Atlanta, GA. This guy was visiting from
1:49:27
Ethiopia and I was probably 7 years old and I couldn't believe
1:49:31
it. Not only was he black, his wife
1:49:33
was black and had a baby that was black.
1:49:35
I mean, black, black. I'd seen lots of brown people.
1:49:38
I'd never seen a black one. It was like, wow, where did the
1:49:42
races come from? Actually, I don't think we
1:49:45
should use the word races. There aren't different races.
1:49:47
There are simply different skin colors.
1:49:49
For instance, would you call these different races of cows?
1:49:54
No. OK, they all look the same in
1:49:56
the meat locker and they all taste the same on the hamburger.
1:49:58
OK, They're just skin color, all right, but there are four
1:50:01
different theories of where the different skin colors come from.
1:50:03
And I'll probably use the word races by habit, but I don't mean
1:50:07
skin colors, OK? The first theory is Adam and Eve
1:50:09
were medium brown and produced all the varieties in their own
1:50:12
children. It's simply a melanin, melanin
1:50:15
count in the skin. There's a black couple that had
1:50:17
three albino children. They didn't have much melanin in
1:50:21
their skin. OK, the second theory says the
1:50:23
Lord put a mark upon Cain, and there are those who argue that
1:50:26
Cain became black because of killing Abel.
1:50:29
I think this is a stupid theory, but it's amazing how many folks
1:50:32
believe that. The Mormons, for instance, teach
1:50:35
that Cain was black and black skin is a curse, the curse of
1:50:39
Cain. They said it's the Lord's doing
1:50:42
when the Mormons teach that up in heaven, God the Father has
1:50:45
thousands of wives and he has sex with all these wives and
1:50:47
they produce spirit babies. Those spirit babies, if they're
1:50:51
a valiant, they come down to earth and get a white skinned
1:50:54
body. If they're not valiant, they
1:50:55
come down and get a black skinned body.
1:50:58
So they look at black people and think, well, you were just, you
1:51:00
were just inferior in your first life.
1:51:04
What a dumb way to live. But that's what the Mormons
1:51:06
teach. OK.
1:51:07
They said Cain, Ham, the whole Negro race have been cursed with
1:51:10
black skin, the mark of Cain. This guy said, if I if there's
1:51:13
one drop of Negro blood in my children as I read to you, they
1:51:16
receive the curse. Shall I tell you the law of God
1:51:19
in regard to the African race? If the chosen white man who
1:51:22
belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain,
1:51:25
the penalty is death on the spot.
1:51:27
And the good book Secret History of the Mormon Church covers a
1:51:30
lot of the people who've been killed in Mormonism, you know,
1:51:33
for violating the Mormon laws. The third theory says God put a
1:51:37
curse on Canaan. Don't confuse Canaan with Cain.
1:51:41
Canaan was Noah's grandson. If you read Genesis Chapter 9 it
1:51:46
says Noah woke from his wine and knew what his younger son had
1:51:49
done and said cursed be Canaan a servant of servant shall he be
1:51:53
twice. The Bible says Canaan shall be a
1:51:55
servant. And there are those who argue
1:51:57
black people are supposed to be servants because God put a curse
1:52:00
on Canaan. OK now I agree with that God put
1:52:03
a curse on Canaan but where do you get black people are
1:52:06
supposed to be servants out of that?
1:52:07
Aren't you assuming that Canaan was black and this curse applies
1:52:10
to him? I don't believe that one either.
1:52:13
The 4th theory and I think the only logical theory in all of
1:52:15
this is the tower of Babel is what caused it.
1:52:18
God told him hey spread out. They said no, we're standing
1:52:20
right here and they built a big tower and God got angry and
1:52:22
confused their languages. But not only did he divide the
1:52:25
languages, he divided their tongues, their families, and
1:52:28
their nations. Genesis chapter 10.
1:52:30
Shem is writing this. Shem is the guy who kept the
1:52:32
records of all the family records.
1:52:33
You know, chapter 10. It's interesting.
1:52:36
Small inbreeding groups will cause unusual traits to become
1:52:39
very pronounced. For instance, for years the
1:52:42
Hapsburgs had to marry royalty. That's just the rule.
1:52:46
Well, sometimes the only royalty available to marry was your
1:52:49
niece or your aunt or your sister.
1:52:52
So they would marry royalty. And pretty soon they started
1:52:54
looking real strange. You could tell, though, that
1:52:55
he's a Habsburg. Got real long nose, stupid
1:52:58
looking chin. And you know he's got to be a
1:53:00
Habsburg. OK, They look dumb.
1:53:02
This is a picture of the feet of a guy.
1:53:04
They're called the ostrich people in Africa.
1:53:06
There's a tribe of folks in Zimbabwe.
1:53:08
They are required to marry within the tribe.
1:53:11
But there's only like 200 of them, so they are always
1:53:14
marrying sisters or nieces or cousins.
1:53:17
Always the ultimate redneck. They only got 2 toes.
1:53:21
Their teeth fall out in the middle of night while they're
1:53:22
sleeping. That's a result of incredible
1:53:27
inbreeding. Unusual traits can become
1:53:29
permanent with inbreeding, and that might have happened with
1:53:33
the Tower of Babel. Genesis 10 says these were the
1:53:36
nations were divided after the flood.
1:53:39
Not only the languages, the nations were divided.
1:53:41
There's a great book on this topic by Bill Cooper.
1:53:43
I've got 1 here that's in the library after the flood.
1:53:46
Bill Cooper. Incredible book if you want to
1:53:48
read that. About the dispersion of the sons
1:53:50
of Noah. What happened?
1:53:52
Well, Japheth, one of the three sons, had about 14 kids and
1:53:55
grandkids. It's a little difficult to
1:53:57
count, believe it or not. You read Genesis 10 and see if
1:53:59
you can count it. Try to do better than that.
1:54:01
It's hard to tell who goes with who, but by my count, 14 kids
1:54:05
and grandkids for Japheth. Ham had 31 kids and grandkids.
1:54:08
One of them was Canaan. Now if the curse was on Canaan.
1:54:13
We got a problem because the Bible tells us Egypt is the land
1:54:16
of Ham. Psalm 105, Psalm 106.
1:54:20
Egypt is the land of Ham. The children of Ham migrated to
1:54:24
Egypt. Africa was actually settled by
1:54:28
the descendants of Ham. Black people apparently came
1:54:32
from Ham. Japheth is the father of the
1:54:35
Europeans and Shem is the father of the Orientals, which includes
1:54:40
Jesus Christ. They're considered actually
1:54:42
Oriental. The Middle East, OK Shem had 29
1:54:48
kids and grandkids, so by my count and my count only, I would
1:54:51
say there are about 75 original nations and languages at the
1:54:54
Tower of Babel. Just adding up those three sons
1:54:57
and their descendants. So I suspect when God confused
1:55:00
the languages, there were about 75 of them.
1:55:02
Just purely based on this, this graph here, this chart here.
1:55:06
Most folks who study English will tell you that English,
1:55:09
German, and Danish have a common root language.
1:55:12
There are hundreds and hundreds of words that are identical.
1:55:14
Here's Beowulf poem in 518 AD. This is English actually from
1:55:19
1500 years ago. Today's English is nothing like
1:55:22
ancient English, and ancient English was very Germanic.
1:55:25
OK, Spanish, Italian, French and Latin had a common root
1:55:29
language. You can compare the words.
1:55:31
People that speak Spanish can go to Italy and get along pretty
1:55:33
good. People to speak Ukrainian can
1:55:36
listen to Russian and get along pretty good.
1:55:37
A lot of languages have common roots.
1:55:39
There's a good book about the Chinese language, The Discovery
1:55:42
of Genesis It's called. If you want to get one of these
1:55:44
it's I forget 10 bucks. 9 bucks showing how the Chinese original
1:55:49
Chinese characters, not the ones they used today, but the
1:55:51
original ancient Chinese pictograms were actually telling
1:55:54
the creation story. For instance, the symbol for
1:55:56
boat is 8 miles in a vessel. Noah's ark had eight people on
1:56:01
it. The Chinese symbol for.
1:56:03
Garden is dust plus breath, plus two people in an enclosure.
1:56:07
There's also more in this book, Search for the Truth by Bruce
1:56:10
Malone. A lot of his articles in here
1:56:12
are really good and are on our website.
1:56:14
You can read some of Bruce's articles, but this is also a
1:56:16
good book you'd want to get on the topic.
1:56:18
There's been a sequel, God's Promise to the Chinese, written
1:56:20
about God's promise in the Chinese language.
1:56:23
The Chinese symbol for righteous is a person under a lamb.
1:56:27
The only way to be righteous is to be under the Lamb.
1:56:29
Their own words we're telling them.
1:56:31
By the way, we have a lot. Of that in English and that
1:56:34
would make a good sermon some a day too.
1:56:36
We'll get another time on that. Today there are about 1200
1:56:38
recognized languages plus thousands and thousands of
1:56:42
dialects. They probably all broke up from
1:56:44
the original 75 languages, just like, you know, Australian,
1:56:48
Irish and Georgian people from Georgia or Alabama.
1:56:53
Believe it or not, they all speak English, but it's a
1:56:55
different dialect of English, OK.
1:56:57
And if it weren't for rapid communication across the world
1:56:59
today, they would be totally indecipherable in a few
1:57:02
generations. When we were in Australia, I was
1:57:04
at the restaurant and I said to the waitress, I said, ma'am,
1:57:06
would you get me a napkin? The preacher said don't, don't,
1:57:09
don't say that. I said what?
1:57:11
He said, don't ask for a napkin over here, that's a diaper.
1:57:14
I said, what do I want? He said, you want a serviette.
1:57:17
He said, OK, now I'm going to have a serviette.
1:57:20
I thought I spoke English. You know, they don't speak
1:57:22
English over there. They speak Australian.
1:57:24
All right but the Bible says pretty clearly in Acts 17 God
1:57:28
hath made of one blood all nations amended dwell on the
1:57:30
earth. Bible says in Malachi have we
1:57:32
not all one father. There's no reason to be a racist
1:57:35
because of your skin color. We cover more on that on video
1:57:37
5. They did a search for Adam and
1:57:39
Eve, trying to find. You know, how do we have a
1:57:41
common ancestor? Using mitochondrial DNA changes,
1:57:45
they found out we have a common ancestor only 200,000 years ago.
1:57:50
One woman. Created this whole race, oh, you
1:57:52
know, world. And then did more studies on
1:57:55
this mitochondrial DNA and said wow, no, we all have a common
1:57:58
ancestor only 6000 years ago. And they said, no, that can't be
1:58:02
right. Let's keep studying.
1:58:04
Well, yeah, actually, we did have a common mother 6000 years
1:58:08
ago. And I even know her husband's
1:58:09
name. OK Adam and a couple of their
1:58:11
kids name. This article says we all related
1:58:15
to a man who lived in Asia 1400 BC.
1:58:18
Science correspondent in Weekly Telegraph in UK Everyone in the
1:58:21
world is descended from a single person who lived around 3500
1:58:24
years ago, according to a new study.
1:58:26
Scientists worked out the most recent common ancestor of all 6
1:58:29
billion people to Live Today probably dwelt in eastern Asia
1:58:32
around 1400 BC. Although the date may seem
1:58:38
relatively recent, researchers say the findings should not come
1:58:41
as a surprise. Anyone trying to trace their
1:58:43
family tree soon discovers the number of direct ancestors
1:58:46
double S every 20 years. How many of you have two
1:58:49
parents? How many of you have 4
1:58:52
grandparents? How many have 8 great
1:58:55
grandparents? How many have 16 great great
1:58:58
grandparents? I mean, you go keep going back.
1:59:01
You got a whole bunch of folks in a hurry, right?
1:59:03
Or this creates a problem and the article says it takes only a
1:59:06
few centuries to clock up thousands of direct ancestors
1:59:09
using a computer model. Researchers from the
1:59:11
Massachusetts MIT. Attempted to trace back the most
1:59:15
recent common ancestor using estimated patterns of migration
1:59:18
through history and they found out we all came from a common
1:59:21
ancestor 3 or 4000 years ago. I could have told them that.
1:59:26
Just by reading the Bible. Save them a lot of time.
1:59:27
Yep, we all have one common ancestor.
1:59:30
Adam and Eve. Nothing to worry about.
1:59:32
OK, what about cloning and it news?
1:59:35
A few years ago cloning was a big deal.
1:59:36
Is it OK to clone people? Well, there's quite a bit of
1:59:39
uncertainty of what may happen with cloning.
1:59:41
We're not sure exactly what you might end up with, you know,
1:59:45
half Hillary, half chimpanzee. But the DNA is an incredibly
1:59:49
complex molecule, unbelievably complex.
1:59:52
What they're doing with cloning is they're transplanting the DNA
1:59:56
from 1 cell to another cell. They're not creating DNA.
2:00:00
They're not creating any information.
2:00:02
They're not creating anything new.
2:00:04
They're just moving it from 1 cell to another.
2:00:07
So they're not. It's a neat genetic trick, very
2:00:10
interesting and very complicated and very expensive, but they're
2:00:13
not really creating anything. The DNA in your body is
2:00:16
phenomenal. We cover all that on video #4
2:00:19
about the complexity of DNA. Now, Dolly, as far as we know,
2:00:22
was the first creature cloned, first mammal clone.
2:00:25
There were 277 failures before they got Dolly to work.
2:00:30
It cost him $50,000 for that one sheep.
2:00:34
They said, what do you think about cloning?
2:00:35
I said, man, the sheep can do this a whole lot quicker and
2:00:37
cheaper. You know, just leave them alone
2:00:38
in the pasture and you'll have your baby sheep.
2:00:40
OK. It's not not that complicated.
2:00:42
And Dolly aged much faster than normal and died early.
2:00:46
OK, cloning is is happening all over.
2:00:49
I think it's a waste of time and money.
2:00:51
Interesting research. I'm not against research.
2:00:53
I'm not against science, but I think it's a waste of time.
2:00:57
And if the theory is we're going to clone humans so that we can
2:01:00
have organs to harvest to save us from diseases, now you've got
2:01:04
a really expensive fix to most diseases, which are a really
2:01:07
simple cure, vitamins, minerals, nutrition.
2:01:10
We cover that on our videotape, the Bible and health.
2:01:12
And Amy asked me, would you please cover in your Q&A what
2:01:16
vitamins you take? I take all kinds of vitamins and
2:01:19
we cover all of that in our Bible and health video.
2:01:21
I don't want to get into all that on Q&A, but get our Bible
2:01:23
and health video, get all kinds of nutrition tips and vitamin
2:01:26
tips. I'm sure no expert on it, but I
2:01:28
do intend to live in this body the rest of my life.
2:01:30
And I'm, you know, going to make that my goal.
2:01:32
So this question I get asked in a debate one time this atheist
2:01:35
said, hoeven if God made a perfect world, why did he make
2:01:37
poisonous snakes? Good, fair question.
2:01:41
There's no question there's a lot of poisonous snakes.
2:01:44
And what about mosquitoes? You know, didn't they, didn't
2:01:47
they bite Adam and Eve? Wouldn't that be painful?
2:01:49
Wasn't there pain in the Garden of Eden?
2:01:50
You know, what about poisonous spiders, etcetera.
2:01:53
Fair, honest, legitimate questions.
2:01:55
Well, if you get this article from Jars Jungle Aviation and
2:01:59
Radio Service, you'll see where they talk about using
2:02:03
electricity to treat snake bites.
2:02:06
Doctor Roger Gadarian in western Ecuador treated 300 cases of
2:02:10
snake bite. The pain is gone in 15 minutes.
2:02:13
If shock is applied within 30 minutes.
2:02:17
What they do is they use a stun gun, makes a little electric
2:02:19
spark. If you get bit by a poisonous
2:02:22
snake or a poisonous spider. They've discovered over the last
2:02:25
20 years a lot of research has been done.
2:02:27
A spark right on the injury site will neutralize the poison.
2:02:33
They say if you get bit by a snake, do it in an X pattern.
2:02:36
Once this way, once this way. If it's been more than 30
2:02:39
minutes, tie Electro to one of the took a wire to one of these
2:02:42
and make a long wire and go around the other side so the
2:02:46
spark has to go through the limb.
2:02:48
If it's been more than 30 minutes, you probably should
2:02:50
also spark halfway from the injury to the heart because the
2:02:53
poison's traveling. A friend of mine said they had a
2:02:56
lady come visit their place in Texas and they had a 2 year old
2:02:59
boy with them. The two year old got bit by a
2:03:01
brown recluse spider which can kill a 2 year old, wouldn't kill
2:03:07
a human but it'd make you hurt for a long time.
2:03:09
We got brown recluse right here in Pensacola.
2:03:11
This little brown recluse spider bit this 2 year old right on the
2:03:14
thigh. Within a few minutes it was
2:03:16
swelled up as big as a softball and rock hard and red with a
2:03:20
spot in the middle. The kid is screaming
2:03:23
uncontrollably. This friend of mine talking to
2:03:27
this lady and she said what do I do?
2:03:28
He said I'll tell you what I would do.
2:03:29
I'd shock it with a stun gun, he said.
2:03:32
I happen to have one, but I'm no doctor.
2:03:34
I'm not going to give you medical advice, but if you want
2:03:35
to borrow my stun gun, I would shock it twice in an X pattern.
2:03:38
Well, she did on this two year old.
2:03:40
Within probably 30 seconds he quit crying.
2:03:45
In less than a minute the swelling was going down and in 3
2:03:48
minutes he was back out playing. And in 15 minutes you couldn't
2:03:51
tell anything except the bite. Little spot I was out working in
2:03:54
a. Yard by the drinking fountain
2:03:57
and there I was down there going to pull the weeds out under that
2:03:59
drinking fountain and there's a wasp nest down there.
2:04:02
I didn't know that one of them came out.
2:04:03
ZAP stung me on the finger. So I went right upstairs to the
2:04:07
Van de Graaff generator, 500,000 Volt, make your hair stand up.
2:04:10
Generator flip the switch. ZAP, ZAP, ZAP instantly.
2:04:14
I mean at less than 1/2 a second the pain was gone from the wasp
2:04:16
sting. I couldn't believe it.
2:04:19
Just bam, gone just that quick, just electric spark.
2:04:24
If you're, you know, people that work in jungles, they're saying
2:04:27
look, get a spark. I mean, if you got to go to find
2:04:29
a engine with a spark plug, you know, pull the wire off, spark
2:04:32
it chainsaw, lawn, lawn mower, do something, but spark it right
2:04:35
away. There seems to be really therapy
2:04:38
in high voltage treatment of. Spider bites.
2:04:40
There's been articles since 1991.
2:04:42
A lot of research done on this. So why did God make poisonous
2:04:45
snakes? I don't think they were
2:04:47
poisonous in the original creation.
2:04:49
Carl Baugh for instance in Glen Rose, TX raised cotton
2:04:52
cottonmouth water moccasins in his hyperbaric chamber with a
2:04:55
stronger electromagnetic field. After two weeks of being in
2:04:59
strong magnetic field, the snakes were not poisonous.
2:05:02
The poison was not harmful. So you can study more on that.
2:05:05
Water moccasins raised in hyperbaric conditions will not
2:05:07
be poisonous. So maybe the pre flood world
2:05:11
these snakes had a different function because the protein
2:05:14
they inject is actually nutritious.
2:05:15
It's good for you. There's a lady over here at
2:05:17
Calvary Baptist, I think you spoken there Eric, on Pine
2:05:19
Forest Rd. She was in a car accident, hit
2:05:22
the windshield, broke her neck down deep inside her between her
2:05:25
shoulder blades. She goes in once a month still
2:05:27
today for a injection of cobra venom.
2:05:31
They take the venom from a cobra, stick it down on her neck
2:05:33
and give her a shot because it's a nutritious protein.
2:05:36
I don't know what they did to it.
2:05:37
You could ask her if you'd like. But so maybe the snakes had a
2:05:41
beneficial function. And so to say, hey, we have
2:05:45
rattlesnakes, therefore God is mean is to totally misunderstand
2:05:48
the creation concept. OK, what about the Ark of the
2:05:50
Covenant? The Bible says in Jeremiah that
2:05:53
they took the spoons, the cups, the basins, the candles.
2:05:55
It names all kinds of small things that were taken captive
2:05:58
out of Israel. Then in Ezra, when they're
2:06:00
bringing the stuff back, it mentions all the small stuff
2:06:03
they brought, the knives, the, you know, the silverware.
2:06:05
Why wouldn't it mention the Ark of the Covenant?
2:06:08
Well, in the book of Chronicles, it says Uziah had prepared great
2:06:12
machines and slings to sling stones, huge catapults, engines,
2:06:17
cunning engines built by smart guys grew up on the walls to
2:06:20
fling stones. They built all kinds of
2:06:21
catapults. And you're going to attract that
2:06:23
city. You're going to have a rock hit
2:06:24
you on the head kind of stuff. All right.
2:06:26
Well, Nebuchadnezzar wanted to besiege Jerusalem and take over
2:06:29
the city, but he didn't want his soldiers getting hit by those
2:06:32
rocks. So they calculated how far the
2:06:35
rocks could go and built a wall outside the range of those
2:06:39
catapults. We're going to build a wall all
2:06:42
the way around the city and we're going to starve them out.
2:06:44
The siege had begun. And you can read all about that
2:06:46
in all the book of, you know, in the Old Testament about the
2:06:48
siege around Jerusalem. Well, Jeremiah had said the
2:06:54
nation and Kingdom that will not serve the same Nebuchadnezzar,
2:06:56
the king of Babylon, that nation will I punish.
2:06:58
God told Jeremiah, go tell everybody in the city surrender.
2:07:01
I want these guys to win. You have been evil.
2:07:04
You are wicked, and this is your punishment.
2:07:07
Don't fight them. Go with them.
2:07:10
Be their slaves. The king said, no, we're going
2:07:13
to fight them. And they got slaughtered, OK,
2:07:15
wiped out. Well, Jeremiah knew they were
2:07:18
going to lose because God had told him.
2:07:20
You're going to lose. So apparently, Jeremiah took the
2:07:22
Ark of the Covenant and the temple furniture from the
2:07:25
temple. Outside the city.
2:07:28
There's a tunnel called Jeremiah's Passageway that's
2:07:32
caved in in several spots. Richard Reeves, who worked with
2:07:35
Ron Wyatt, has been working on this for years, digging out this
2:07:38
tunnel. Some places are still open, but
2:07:42
there's all kinds of tunnels under Jerusalem.
2:07:44
I mean, there's another city under that city, OK.
2:07:46
And who knows what hasn't been discovered, But apparently they
2:07:49
took the Ark of the Covenant and all this temple furniture
2:07:51
outside the city wall, but inside the siege wall.
2:07:56
Well, if you look. At where that arrow is pointing,
2:07:57
that is Golgotha, the place where Jesus was crucified.
2:08:01
The Garden Tomb is right there. I was there a couple years ago.
2:08:04
I'm going again in the spring, back to Jerusalem.
2:08:06
Oh, it's incredible. If you get a chance to go to the
2:08:07
Holy Land, get over there. Called the Place of the Skull,
2:08:11
Jeremiah's grotto is now a place where they store bananas.
2:08:14
A couple of Muslims own it and they store store fruit there to
2:08:18
sell. But apparently in Jeremiah's
2:08:20
grotto, all this, you can see it there, Place of the skull where
2:08:23
they stone Steven, the garden tomb, the Gordon's, Calvary.
2:08:29
Jesus was crucified right there. He was buried just a short
2:08:33
distance away in the tomb and we get into more later on the
2:08:37
crucifixion site. But Ron was digging in that
2:08:40
area. Ron Wyatt, who died in 99 and
2:08:43
his you can get all of his discoveries from our ministry.
2:08:46
There's only I think two people that sell his DVDs, him and us
2:08:50
100 bucks for his DVD series. It's phenomenal.
2:08:53
If you want to watch, there's what Paul Paul 5 DVDs I think.
2:08:55
Yeah, you want. To get all of Ron Wyatt's
2:08:57
discoveries, you can see more about this.
2:08:59
Just contact our ministry. 100 bucks and get it.
2:09:01
But Ron said he was digging outside there in Jeremiah's
2:09:04
grotto area, and he found these. They found the crucifixion site.
2:09:08
He covers it all on the DVDs. And they found this little cave,
2:09:11
had a Muslim friend working with him, helping him dig dirt.
2:09:14
You know, he just paid this guy Arab to dig.
2:09:16
He was squeezing down in this little hole, digging around.
2:09:19
And he came out screaming. I quit.
2:09:20
I quit and left. So Ron went in there.
2:09:24
And according to Ron, I talked to him for hours about it.
2:09:26
And he said, Bro Hovind, if you told me this story, I wouldn't
2:09:28
believe you. But it happened to me.
2:09:30
And I know that all liars have their part in the lake of fire.
2:09:33
Ron, I knew Ron personally, I think it was a good man.
2:09:36
If I was God, I would let him find this kind of stuff because
2:09:38
he wasn't looking for glory. He was looking to glorify God.
2:09:42
So other people, other Christians and other, even good
2:09:44
friends of mine say, oh, Ron's wrong.
2:09:46
He's, you know, I get, I get blasted for even mentioning Ron
2:09:49
and Eric, you and I, men are on our video series Creation
2:09:51
Science answering the critics. We cover some of that in this
2:09:54
DVD series if you want to get all those DVDs about our answers
2:09:57
to the critics. But Ron said he squeezed down in
2:09:59
this little hole, and there's a little cave about four feet
2:10:02
high, and he saw several things in there.
2:10:04
As he looked around with his flashlight, he found, for
2:10:06
instance, the table of showbread, the golden table that
2:10:10
the Jews had built 3000 years ago.
2:10:12
Jeremiah hid that stuff in there, built a false wall in
2:10:15
front of it. And there's this concrete box,
2:10:17
like a concrete, but it's actually a rock hollowed out.
2:10:20
And when the lid was broken, according to Ron, he went over
2:10:23
there and he looked at this lid and he couldn't see in it
2:10:26
because the ceiling's too short. But all over this lid was a
2:10:29
black stuff like dried ketchup. It turned out to be dried blood.
2:10:32
According to Ron, right above the crack in the lid was a crack
2:10:35
in the ceiling of this little short cave.
2:10:38
That crack in the ceiling went all the way up to where Jesus
2:10:40
was crucified, 20 feet straight up through solid rock.
2:10:43
All this is according to Ron. I've never seen that.
2:10:45
But there's other folks who say, Yep, that's correct.
2:10:47
I mean, I don't know, but it preaches good at least.
2:10:50
Apparently Jesus died on the cross and his blood ran right
2:10:52
down onto the mercy seat, which is where the blood was supposed
2:10:55
to go when there was a sacrifice because Jeremiah had stuck it
2:10:59
there 600 years earlier. And the blood ran right down
2:11:02
into the mercy seat. Now Aza put forth his hand and
2:11:04
touched the ark and God killed him.
2:11:06
So when Ron told the Jewish authorities, hey, here's your
2:11:08
ark, they said, oh, we're not going to touch that.
2:11:11
It's still there waiting for the new temple to be built.
2:11:14
Then they're going to get it out and put in the temple.
2:11:16
So you can go to wyattmuseum.com and talk to Richard.
2:11:19
He'll just say, I saw Richard will say, I don't know is what
2:11:22
Ron said, and that's best I can do too.
2:11:25
OK. Is God's name in Jerusalem?
2:11:28
Hickory Hammock Baptist Church over here in Milton, FL Pastor
2:11:31
Carl Gallups, good friend of mine, I've spoken there a couple
2:11:33
times. He's got a great sermon on this
2:11:35
topic and you want to get a hold of him to get that Is God's name
2:11:37
in Jerusalem. Well, the Hebrew alphabet has
2:11:40
all these different letters in it.
2:11:41
One of them looks kind of like AW, it's called the shin.
2:11:44
That is the Hebrew word, the Hebrew.
2:11:46
That one letter is the symbol for God.
2:11:49
Whenever and a lot of Hebrews put this on their doorpost or
2:11:51
beside their house, they put the shin, you know, that's God,
2:11:55
God's house. OK, God said His name will be
2:11:58
upon the children of Israel. He will put my name there
2:12:01
forever. First Kings Chapter 9 in
2:12:03
Jerusalem. Will I put my name in Jerusalem?
2:12:06
I will put my name forever. Second Kings 21, Second
2:12:11
Chronicles chapter 33. Is God's name actually in
2:12:14
Jerusalem? Apparently so, because there are
2:12:18
three valleys that form a shin. His name is permanently stamped
2:12:23
there on this city. So that preaches good.
2:12:25
I don't know. OK, What about Bigfoot?
2:12:27
I get asked the question all the time.
2:12:29
Hey, what about Bigfoot? Bigfoot lives.
2:12:33
Deal with it. Chester Moore Junior is a good
2:12:35
friend of mine from the Houston area.
2:12:36
I spoke at their cryptozoology conference.
2:12:39
What about Bigfoot? How about the making of Bigfoot?
2:12:41
This is the guy in this book saying I dressed up as Bigfoot.
2:12:44
I confess it was me. And he's still got the Bigfoot
2:12:48
suit. I have interviewed 10 people who
2:12:51
swear they've seen a Bigfoot. OK, Todd Jurassic's good friend
2:12:54
of mine. He's seen one several times.
2:12:56
This film, the Patterson film here is the one made by the guy
2:12:59
who confessed it was him in the suit.
2:13:01
All right, matter of fact, there's the Bigfoot suit.
2:13:04
Not the original, but a copy of it is coming to Dinosaur
2:13:07
Adventureland, going to be in our museum here soon.
2:13:09
There's a guy in Colorado's donating it to our museum.
2:13:11
But what about Bigfoot? I don't know.
2:13:15
Whatever these creatures are, some are certainly hoaxes and
2:13:18
fakes and frauds, no question. OK, But they've been seen in
2:13:20
just about every state. There are several theories about
2:13:23
Bigfoot. Since I've interviewed, 10
2:13:24
people have seen one. And because the question comes
2:13:26
up, I'm going to answer it. But it's not something I deal
2:13:28
with. I deal with creation.
2:13:29
Here are the theories. Some people say they're all
2:13:31
hoaxes or misidentified. Well, hoaxes, certainly that
2:13:36
happens. But you got to be understanding,
2:13:38
especially in the South here. Who in their right mind is going
2:13:42
to run around dressed up in the woods like that?
2:13:45
How many rednecks are there within 30 miles here that shoot
2:13:47
one of them things on sight? Look at that thing moving.
2:13:50
Bam. What is it?
2:13:51
Who? Don't know, George, just go
2:13:52
check it out. You know, that's just shoot
2:13:55
first, ask questions later. You know, that's just the way it
2:13:57
is. All right.
2:13:58
The second theory says they're unidentified species of ape.
2:14:01
That could be true. This is Discovery Channel last
2:14:03
night had a section on, you know, what is this Bigfoot
2:14:05
stuff. Some people think there's
2:14:07
somebody hippies from the 60s that haven't come in yet.
2:14:09
They're hairy and they stink. OK?
2:14:10
I don't know. Some people think they're aliens
2:14:13
from another world. I don't know about that one.
2:14:15
Some people think they're simply genetic experiments gone bad.
2:14:17
The bottom line is I don't know, but those are the current
2:14:20
theories that I'm aware of. So if you see one, let me know.
2:14:23
I'd like to hear about it. Genesis chapter 6 says there
2:14:26
were giants in the earth in those days.
2:14:27
Who were these giants? It came to pass when men began
2:14:31
to multiply in the face of the earth and daughters were born to
2:14:33
them. The sons of God, which always
2:14:35
refers to angels in the Old Testament, saw the daughters of
2:14:38
men that they were fair and they took them wives of all which
2:14:41
they chose. And the Lord said, my spirit
2:14:43
shall not always strive with man.
2:14:44
His day shall be 120 years. And I don't know what that
2:14:47
means. If anybody knows, let me know.
2:14:49
People have argued, see, nobody's going to live past 120.
2:14:52
Well, that's not true. There's a lot of folks who have
2:14:54
lived past 120. Some people say it's going to be
2:14:56
120 years till the flood. I don't know.
2:14:59
Maybe it means there's going to be 120 Jubilee years of human
2:15:02
history. Every 50 years was here of
2:15:04
Jubilee. 120 * 50 is 6000. I don't know if you know, let me
2:15:09
know, but I don't. But anyway, back to the giants.
2:15:12
It says there were giants in the earth in those days.
2:15:14
And also after that when the sons of God came into the
2:15:17
daughters of men, they bear children to them.
2:15:19
The same became mighty men, which were of old men, every
2:15:22
known. Who were these giants?
2:15:25
And is this giants referring to the mighty men?
2:15:28
Or does the phrase after that separate this into two totally
2:15:32
unrelated subjects? I can't figure it out.
2:15:34
Somebody knows, please let me know.
2:15:37
But the Bible says God saw the wickedness of man and he said
2:15:39
I'm going to wipe him out and he sent the flood.
2:15:41
But who were these giants and who were these mighty men?
2:15:43
It's the Hebrew word Nephilim. Who were the Nephilim?
2:15:48
Well some people think that Jude verse 6 it's only got 1 chapter.
2:15:51
They think Jude verse 6 ties in angels which kept not their
2:15:54
first estate. I think that ties in also.
2:15:57
But I have no idea why I believe that other than that's what I've
2:16:00
been taught all my life. But I think it's always wise to
2:16:03
question and say, is this really, does this tie in?
2:16:06
Other people think Peter, the Peter passage ties in first.
2:16:09
Peter says the spirits in prison waited in the days of Noah.
2:16:14
Are these spirits in prison and the angels that kept not their
2:16:17
first estate and the giants? Is this referring to the same
2:16:20
thing? I'm going to give that a
2:16:22
definite probably, but I don't know how you could prove such a
2:16:25
thing. Here are the theories about
2:16:26
these Nephilim. Some people think they're sons
2:16:29
of God that are fallen angels that, you know, followed Satan
2:16:32
and they married the daughters of men.
2:16:34
The problems with that theory is angels don't marry in heaven.
2:16:37
That doesn't mean they can't marry on earth.
2:16:40
And it assumes that Revelation 12 means 1/3 of the angels
2:16:43
followed Satan. You guys going through Bible
2:16:46
college, why do we always teach 1/3 of the angels followed
2:16:49
Satan? The passage in Revelation says
2:16:53
Satan drew a third of the stars with his tail.
2:16:56
That's it. That's the only verse they're
2:16:58
using to say 1/3 of the angels followed Satan.
2:17:01
There's no question Satan has helpers and demons and all that
2:17:03
stuff, but we're I don't think the Bible tells us.
2:17:07
So either we don't need to know or it just simply doesn't
2:17:10
matter. But don't worry about it.
2:17:12
There's not enough information. The second theory says it's the
2:17:15
sons of God referring to the line of Seth and they're
2:17:18
marrying the kid, the Cain's descendants intermarrying of the
2:17:21
godly and ungodly line. I think that's a ridiculous
2:17:23
theory because saved and unsaved people get married all the time
2:17:28
and it doesn't affect their children as far as they don't
2:17:30
become giants because. One's saved and one's lost.
2:17:32
OK. Secondly, there's no evidence
2:17:34
Seth's children were godly. I mean they all drowned in the
2:17:36
flood too, except for one of them, Noah.
2:17:39
Noah had brothers and sisters that drowned in the flood.
2:17:42
It says Lamech lived after he begat Noah so many years and
2:17:44
begat sons and daughters. Noah's own cousins didn't come
2:17:47
on the ark, Brothers and sisters didn't.
2:17:50
Chuck Misters got a good audio tape series about the Nephilim
2:17:53
if you want to read, listen, study more on that.
2:17:55
He thinks not only were they, you know, genetic experiments,
2:17:58
but they're coming back and Satan's going to use this again
2:18:02
to infiltrate humanity. You can get Chuck missler stuff
2:18:04
on that. But whatever these Nephilim
2:18:06
were, it would appear to me that Noah's kids would have seen
2:18:10
them. Genesis 6, the 1st 5 verses is
2:18:14
talking taking place just before the flood.
2:18:17
And so God said to Noah, build the ark and we're going to have
2:18:19
a flood. So this Nephilim is referred to
2:18:22
before the flood. So let's assume that they were
2:18:24
giant people with supernatural powers of some kind.
2:18:28
Noah's kids would have seen them.
2:18:31
After the flood's over, they're going to tell stories to their
2:18:34
kids sitting around the campfire.
2:18:36
Oh, you should have seen the guy that lived down the street from
2:18:38
us. Man, oh man, he had three eyes
2:18:39
and could fly or who knows, you know?
2:18:42
But these stories are going to be preserved through the flood
2:18:44
by Noah's children. And they're going to be come the
2:18:47
legends of Zeus and Thor and all the Babylonian and Greek and all
2:18:52
the mythological gods probably are actually stretched stories,
2:18:57
and maybe even not stretched stories.
2:18:59
Of true things that happened. So probably this is a result of
2:19:02
the Nephilim, but there's an awful lot of stuff about these
2:19:05
giants in the earth in those days, and maybe that's what it
2:19:08
is you study for yourself. Next question, what about UFO's?
2:19:11
Unidentified flying objects? What are they?
2:19:15
I don't know, and I'm not sure how it ties into creation, but
2:19:17
since I get asked that every week, I'll tell you my humble,
2:19:20
totally unbiased thoughts on the topic.
2:19:21
OK, what are the UFO's? Unidentified flying objects?
2:19:25
I like that picture, you know. Took off his glasses.
2:19:28
I have been to New Mexico to the UFO Museum several times.
2:19:32
Every time I go through that area and preach, I stop in and
2:19:34
see the UFO Museum. It's pretty interesting.
2:19:37
It's a huge place with all kinds of interesting stuff and
2:19:40
hundreds and hundreds of books that have been written about
2:19:42
UFOs. Gulf Breeze, right down here 6
2:19:45
miles away, is famous for its UFO sightings.
2:19:48
So what are the UFOs? There have been many Christian
2:19:51
books written on the topic and many heathen books written on
2:19:53
the topic. We have these two UFO end time
2:19:56
delusion and a kind of Reader's Digest smaller version by the
2:19:59
same author condensing, condensing the information, UFO
2:20:03
666. There's a great book by Chuck
2:20:05
Missler again called Alien Encounters if you want to read
2:20:08
his theory on UFOs. And he's one of the smartest
2:20:11
guys I know. There's AI asked Chuck Missler a
2:20:14
few months ago when I was preaching out there at a
2:20:15
conference with him. I said, Doctor Missler, what
2:20:17
really happened at Roswell, NM? What is the truth about this?
2:20:21
You know the UFO crash site? He said Brother Hoeven, I don't
2:20:25
know for sure, and nobody who knows is talking.
2:20:28
But exactly nine months later, Al Gore was born.
2:20:32
So what happened? How I don't know.
2:20:35
That'll preach. But Stan Deyo.
2:20:36
Has a good book. He lives in Colorado Springs.
2:20:38
Stan Deyo's book about the cosmic conspiracies, real good
2:20:41
on the top. He says it's using a new, a
2:20:44
little understood form of propulsion called
2:20:46
electrogravitic propulsion. And I mentioned this in a
2:20:49
seminar years ago and a guy came to me and he said, Brother
2:20:51
Hoeven, I work for the government and.
2:20:54
How do you know about electrogravitic propulsion?
2:20:56
That's top secret. I said I read a book about it.
2:20:59
I'm sorry. You know, that's the book if you
2:21:01
want to read it. Still available from
2:21:02
millennium-arc.net. So round airplanes have been
2:21:07
made for years. This is the XF5U, which flew
2:21:10
very well. But during World War 2 at the
2:21:12
end, but they invented jet engines and they kind of became
2:21:14
obsolete. Here's the A 15.
2:21:16
The Russians had a similar one called the A16A round airplane,
2:21:19
a Frisbee. OK.
2:21:21
The V 173 flew just fine. So there are several theories
2:21:24
about UFOs. Let me just give them to you
2:21:26
since I don't know. I'll tell you what you can study
2:21:27
for yourself. One theory says they're all
2:21:30
misidentified. Somebody saw a weather balloon,
2:21:32
swamped gas, a mirage, too much vodka, whatever.
2:21:35
OK. Second theory says they're top
2:21:37
secret or government or private experiments.
2:21:39
And 3rd theory says they're satanic or demonic.
2:21:42
See, God is all places. Satan can only be one place.
2:21:46
So he flies a UFO according to that third theory.
2:21:48
OK, he has to be able to get around quickly.
2:21:51
If they travel with electrogravitic propulsion then
2:21:54
there would be no G force because every molecule is being
2:21:57
drawn electrically. So the craft could go from zero
2:22:00
to 5000 and stop on a dime and the people inside would not be
2:22:05
bouncing around. No G force.
2:22:08
People describe the UFOs as, you know, up, down, right, left,
2:22:11
zip, zip, zip. You know, things that would kill
2:22:12
a person inside a regular plane. You know, pilots black out too
2:22:15
much G force. The 4th theory says they're
2:22:18
alien life from other planets. Now the Bible says Eve's the
2:22:21
mother of all living. So I have a hard time believing
2:22:23
there's life on other planets. I think there's angels out
2:22:25
there, you know, Seraphim, cherubim.
2:22:27
If you mean life outside of Earth and that I I would agree
2:22:29
with. But as far as other, you know,
2:22:33
living beings outside of that, I don't believe there's any life
2:22:35
anywhere else. Next question, how long were
2:22:38
they in the Garden of Eden before they sinned?
2:22:40
Bible says Adam was 130 when a son was born.
2:22:44
Before that Cain and Abel were born, but the dates aren't given
2:22:47
because they're not in the line to Jesus Christ.
2:22:50
So I think they could have been in the garden 100 years.
2:22:53
I don't know, but I don't think they sinned the 1st 30 seconds.
2:22:57
At the end of day 6, God said everything was very good.
2:22:59
Adam and Eve had not sinned yet and Satan had not fallen yet.
2:23:03
It's not logical to say Satan fell before the 6th day of
2:23:06
creation. Because God said everything was
2:23:09
very good, but God drove man out and put him at the east of the
2:23:13
Garden of Eden and put some angels and cherubims there and
2:23:15
says don't come back. So I don't think they were in
2:23:18
the Garden of Eden. They had to be out before Cain
2:23:21
and Abel were born and before Seth was born.
2:23:24
So could have been 100 years, there's no way to tell, but
2:23:26
certainly sometime after day 7 before 100 years.
2:23:29
I'm just picking that as a number.
2:23:30
They were in the Garden of Eden. OK, what about the Mark of the
2:23:33
beast? We'll cover much more on this on
2:23:35
our College Class CSE 200 series, but Bible says they're
2:23:39
going to receive a mark in their right hand or forehead, and you
2:23:42
cannot buy or sell without this mark.
2:23:45
I have studied this a lot, I'm sure no expert, but I believe
2:23:47
we've already got it available today, this little microchip
2:23:50
about the size of a grain of rice that's been developed for
2:23:53
20 years now. They've been 15 or 20 years
2:23:55
they've been using this Dean Martin.
2:23:57
Some of you might have been here when Dean lives.
2:23:58
Right here in town, came to speak to our staff about the
2:24:01
microchip. He took one of these little
2:24:02
chips, put it under his arm and walked past his laptop computer,
2:24:06
which had a little sensor built into.
2:24:07
Are you here for that, Diane? And up on the screen flashed his
2:24:10
name, address, phone number, Social Security number, birth
2:24:13
date. The chip doesn't store any of
2:24:15
that. The chip stores a code that
2:24:18
triggers the computer to find all that there's already it's
2:24:22
already technology is already here to make a little chip
2:24:26
that's just a transponder. A radio sequencing goes out.
2:24:30
The radio frequency goes out, energizes the chip, which has no
2:24:33
battery. The antenna picks up the.
2:24:35
Energy and sends back, you know, here's my number, I am number,
2:24:40
you know, 325-C-95 whatever. Exxon gas station, you can buy
2:24:44
these called Speed Pass. You walk up, pump your gas,
2:24:47
touch the pump, get in your car and drive off.
2:24:48
McDonald's is doing this. You carry a little chip on a key
2:24:51
chain. You walk up, touch the
2:24:53
McDonald's cash register, pay for your food.
2:24:56
Anybody ever seen that before? It's been available for five or
2:24:59
six years. OK, this article came out in
2:25:02
CNN. Is human chip implant wave of
2:25:04
the future. Years ago, people have been
2:25:06
putting chips in themselves to activate their whole house.
2:25:09
Kevin Warwick's really big on this.
2:25:10
When he walks into the room, the light comes on.
2:25:12
His whole house is computerized and it's all based on a chip
2:25:14
that he's got in his arm so it can be done.
2:25:18
Hitachi Corporation developed a new MU chip, which only holds
2:25:21
128 bits, but that's the size of it right there, .4mm.
2:25:28
You can put it inside a piece of paper.
2:25:30
And not find it. There's a family in Florida a
2:25:33
couple years ago is real proud of themselves.
2:25:34
They put microchips in because they have health problems.
2:25:37
And in case they get, you know, hurt in an accident, they can
2:25:40
scan their body and find out, oh, this is George.
2:25:43
He's got hemophilia. Whatever.
2:25:44
You know, there's a little chip there.
2:25:46
You can see the antenna which receives the radio signal.
2:25:49
That signal energizes the antenna, which activates it to
2:25:52
send back its signal. It gets its energy from an
2:25:54
outside source. Well, Carl Sanders has a whole
2:25:57
bunch of stuff on this microchip technology.
2:25:59
You can get a hold of him in Arkansas.
2:26:02
If you want, put his website up here.
2:26:04
But as far as using money, the Bible says the love of money,
2:26:07
root of all evil. This microchip technology is
2:26:09
going to be used to develop one world currency.
2:26:14
All cash is going to become obsolete.
2:26:16
You're going to have to have a chip in your hand or in your
2:26:18
forehead or you cannot buy or sell.
2:26:21
And we are racing toward that technology, racing toward that
2:26:24
reality right now. I don't know how much.
2:26:26
Longer it's going to be, but I'll be surprised if we go five
2:26:28
more years. Without cash, credit cards,
2:26:32
everything being eliminated, you have to have a chip.
2:26:35
I don't think there's going to be a grand moment when
2:26:37
Christians can stand up and say you're not giving me that chip.
2:26:39
You know, I'm going to go stand up for God.
2:26:41
It's just going to be a simple matter of you get slowly choked
2:26:44
out of society. Well, you just can't buy here.
2:26:48
OK, sorry. We don't take cash.
2:26:49
We don't take credit cards. We don't take.
2:26:52
All we take is you got to have a chip.
2:26:53
It's. Going to solve a lot of problems
2:26:56
and create a lot of problems. Which ties in probably to the
2:26:59
HARP Technology High Altitude Aurora Research project, HAARP.
2:27:04
They've been doing research for years trying to use the high
2:27:07
Aurora, the Aurora where the Northern Lights are, to control
2:27:10
weather. There's a lot of folks and a lot
2:27:13
of stuff on the Internet thinking that probably these
2:27:14
hurricanes in the last couple of years have been controlled
2:27:17
deliberately by sending up microwave frequencies.
2:27:20
They can heat up a section of the sky and make a virtual lens
2:27:24
and then therefore use the sun's light coming through that lens
2:27:27
to heat up the ground like you burn ants with your magnifying
2:27:30
glass. You know, high altitude Aurora
2:27:32
research project. They can make a virtual mirror
2:27:34
with this stuff. How much is real, I don't know.
2:27:37
It's interesting study. They use ELF, extra low
2:27:39
frequency, and you can get into all that if you'd like.
2:27:41
There's been a ton of research done on this and there's a lot
2:27:43
of strange things up in Alaska and up around the North Pole
2:27:47
that apparently are for this purpose.
2:27:49
They drill a hole in the ground. Everything seems to be below
2:27:51
ground, probably for multiple reasons.
2:27:53
I was at a debate here recently and somebody said, well, doesn't
2:27:56
the Shroud of Turin prove that Jesus Christ lived on earth?
2:28:00
Well, I don't need the Shroud of Turin to prove Jesus lived on
2:28:02
earth, but what about the Shroud of Turin?
2:28:04
Somebody sent me this book and said, oh bro, Hovind you got to
2:28:06
read this. This is proof that Jesus was
2:28:08
buried in the burial cloth. You know, proof of death, burial
2:28:11
and resurrection of Christ. Well, they say the Shroud of
2:28:13
Turin was the cloth Jesus was buried in.
2:28:15
Now here's the facts about it. This is a picture of it.
2:28:18
You can see the picture of the face and the arms are crossed.
2:28:20
And you know, they see the holes in the, in the hands where he
2:28:23
was, you know, crucified and holes in the feet and you can
2:28:26
see the beard and all this stuff.
2:28:29
There's several real serious problems with the Shroud of
2:28:31
Turin. They say you can see the outline
2:28:33
of his beard and his wounds. Well, the Bible says his face
2:28:36
was bound about with a napkin. The piece around his head was
2:28:39
different than the piece around his body.
2:28:43
In John chapter 20 it says Peter went in and saw the linen
2:28:46
clothes lie and the napkin about his head.
2:28:48
Not lying with the clothes but in a place by itself.
2:28:52
The shroud of turn has one cloth covering the head and the body.
2:28:55
It's not the burial cloth of Jesus.
2:28:57
They saw the linen clothes lie by themselves.
2:28:59
Luke chapter 24, Isaiah prophesied that they would pluck
2:29:02
off his hair or the shroud of turn shows a man with a beard.
2:29:08
He didn't have a beard. By the time he got buried, they
2:29:11
had plucked off the hair of his cheeks.
2:29:12
OK, First Corinthians says it's a shame for man to have long
2:29:15
hair. This guy had long hair.
2:29:17
At least the image does. OK, Jesus did not have long
2:29:20
hair. He was not in Nazarite.
2:29:22
He was from Nazareth. OK, the custom of that day was
2:29:25
to have short hair. If the custom was to have short
2:29:29
hair, then why did Judas have to kiss him to pick him out of the
2:29:31
crowd? If Jesus had long hair he could
2:29:35
just say he's the long haired guy, go get him.
2:29:37
No, Jesus had short hair like everybody else.
2:29:39
OK, so Jesus went secretly to the feast.
2:29:43
Nobody picked him out as unusual.
2:29:44
He looked just like everybody else.
2:29:46
OK? He was not a Nazarite from
2:29:48
Numbers chapter 6. That was a vow they took not to
2:29:50
cut their hair, shave and all that stuff.
2:29:52
Samson was a Nazarite. Jesus was from Nazareth.
2:29:55
Don't get the two confused, OK? It's no connection whatsoever.
2:29:59
So the Shroud of Turn is a really old cloth.
2:30:01
It might even be a cloth somebody was buried in.
2:30:03
It might even be a cloth somebody who was crucified was
2:30:05
buried in. I wouldn't argue any of that.
2:30:07
But it's not Jesus, that's for sure.
2:30:10
OK, well, my son Eric was in Bible college.
2:30:13
He had a teacher there that taught him the word created and
2:30:15
made are different words. And this was used as evidence
2:30:18
for the gap theory. Some things God created.
2:30:21
Some things God made. So I went through and searched
2:30:24
the scriptures like you're supposed to do and found out God
2:30:27
made the heaven and earth but also says he created heaven and
2:30:30
earth. The words are used
2:30:32
interchangeably. He made the firmament in Genesis
2:30:35
17, but he created the firmament in Psalm 148.
2:30:39
All through Scripture it uses these words interchangeably
2:30:41
created and made. It's called Hebrew parallelism
2:30:44
as we do the same in English. If you're going to describe
2:30:47
something, you wouldn't use the same word twice.
2:30:49
You wouldn't say wow, he was huge, he was huge.
2:30:53
You would say wow, he was huge, he was big.
2:30:55
You pick a new word for emphasis.
2:30:58
Created and made are used interchangeably.
2:31:00
All few scriptures Bible says the Lord made the heavens first
2:31:04
Corinthians he made the trees, but he also created the trees.
2:31:07
He made man. He also created man.
2:31:10
He made the land animals and he or made the land animals for the
2:31:13
land and he created animals for the land.
2:31:15
All few scripture uses it interchangeably.
2:31:17
Some of them have been the very same verse and Genesis 2 four
2:31:21
God said let us make man in our image.
2:31:23
So he created man in his own image.
2:31:25
Right, in the same verse. I mean, no, it's not anything
2:31:27
you could use to justify the gap theory or ruined creation,
2:31:33
ruined restoration theory. The Hebrew word created is Bara
2:31:37
and formed is yatzar, and made is ASA.
2:31:40
I'm sure I'm not pronouncing them right.
2:31:41
I don't speak Hebrew. But here they're used all in the
2:31:43
same verse. Isaiah 43.
2:31:46
Everyone, even everyone that is called by my name, for I have
2:31:49
created him. For my glory I have formed him.
2:31:52
Yeah, I have made him, got them all in the same verse.
2:31:56
I mean, it can't be more clear. It's talking about the same
2:31:58
thing. I created the O Jacob that and
2:32:01
he that formed the O Israel, I have created him for my glory.
2:32:04
I have formed him. Yeah, I have made him.
2:32:06
Again, it's for emphasis, not enough to make a whole doctrine
2:32:11
on. So these words, you know, form,
2:32:13
create, made are used interchangeably all through
2:32:15
scripture. It's just simply for emphasis.
2:32:18
So where do you take courses on creation?
2:32:20
Well, we offer some courses on creation.
2:32:21
There are several good people who supply materials on
2:32:24
creation. Landmark Freedom Baptist
2:32:26
Curriculum in Florida has got some good stuff down there where
2:32:28
you live, Josh, and you've been down there, Haines City, FL,
2:32:31
South of Orlando a little bit. They've got good stuff done,
2:32:33
boys. My good friend up in Georgia has
2:32:36
some Jill Whitlock home Training schools.com.
2:32:38
If you train your kids at home on stuff on creation.
2:32:41
Charles Lynn up in Tennessee took my seminar and made a
2:32:44
children's course out of a curriculum that you can get from
2:32:46
him. This is a question I get asked
2:32:49
in debates all the time. Hoeven you call yourself Doctor
2:32:51
Hoeven, by the way, I rarely do that, OK?
2:32:54
I'm just can't, OK, But I do have a pH D and they say where
2:32:56
do you is your pH D legitimate? Well, I think you've got a right
2:33:00
to face your and face your accusers.
2:33:02
I say, whoever spreading the information about a pH D, would
2:33:05
you please stand? And they don't stand.
2:33:06
Of course, I I'm always answered ready to answer questions.
2:33:10
But whenever somebody says you don't have a legitimate degree
2:33:13
right away, I know they're really it's called an ad
2:33:15
hominem. Attack.
2:33:16
They're attacking the person instead of the message.
2:33:19
So I do take it a little cautiously.
2:33:21
Do you have a legitimate degree? Well, they're trying to draw
2:33:23
attention away from their silly religion of evolution.
2:33:27
PhD means doctorate of philosophy.
2:33:30
That's what that means. Do I have one?
2:33:33
Yes, I do. There's a picture of it.
2:33:35
It's hanging on the wall right inside if you want to go look at
2:33:36
it. Patriot University started 1980
2:33:41
in Colorado Springs. It was a Baptist Church that
2:33:43
started this university. It's a Christian School, kind of
2:33:47
like you guys went to the Christian School up here in
2:33:48
Pensacola. Nothing wrong with that.
2:33:50
They have about 30 graduates a year.
2:33:52
You can give give them a phone call if you want.
2:33:54
They were at a Hilltop Baptist Church for years.
2:33:56
They had 25 graduates a year. About three got doctor's
2:33:59
degrees. They offered doctor's degrees
2:34:01
and they offered pH D's. They have now changed their name
2:34:04
to Patriot Bible University. That was done just in the last
2:34:09
few years. Used to be just simply Patriot
2:34:11
University. When I went there, OK, they
2:34:13
offered a pH D in education. I took it, I got it.
2:34:15
Took me 9 years to finish it. I worked hard for my degree.
2:34:19
I don't know if people work hard for theirs or not, but if you
2:34:21
don't like the doctor's degree, then call me Bubba, call me
2:34:23
Kent, call me hey you and let's get back to the topic, OK?
2:34:26
It's not a big deal with me. Before I finished my last
2:34:29
course, I sat. Down, put the course away,
2:34:34
thought about it for two weeks. Do I really want to finish this?
2:34:37
Is this degree? Is the word term doctor going to
2:34:40
help or hurt my ministry? I just want to win souls and
2:34:43
influence people, that's all. And I really wrestled with
2:34:46
should I even finish it for fear that it might be a hindrance
2:34:49
instead of a help. And I finally did.
2:34:52
I ended up with 2P APHD and a doctorate in divinity.
2:34:56
Have a doctor's divinity and Dr. and PhD in education, religious
2:35:00
education. Nothing wrong with that
2:35:02
whatsoever but if you don't like the degree then OK don't call
2:35:06
me. They call it the patriot.
2:35:07
A diploma mill. It is not a diploma mill.
2:35:09
You can contact them yourself. OK?
2:35:10
I worked pretty hard for my degree.
2:35:11
I don't know if they worked hard for theirs or not.
2:35:13
About 25 graduates a year. So yes.
2:35:15
I have a pH D and Darwin's degree was in theology but they
2:35:20
call him a scientist. OK Henry Morris has a great
2:35:23
article about people. Charles Darwin was an apostate
2:35:25
divinity student whose only degree was theology.
2:35:28
Alfred Russell had little formal education with only a brief
2:35:31
apprenticeship in surveying and yet they say he was a great
2:35:34
scientist. Jean Lamarck is the only one
2:35:37
that had a real degree. Ernst Haekel in Germany seemed
2:35:39
to have a bonafide education in. And the branch of evolutionary
2:35:42
science that they pursued, those are the only two guys.
2:35:45
But most people that are involved in evolution in the
2:35:48
early days were surveyors or engineers and had nothing to do
2:35:52
with biology. We call them the fathers of
2:35:56
evolution. I do have an earned PhD from a
2:35:59
non accredited Christian university.
2:36:00
I've always said that thousands of major world leaders
2:36:03
throughout history had no degrees of any kind.
2:36:06
Thousands of major universities offered degrees by distance
2:36:08
learning via the Internet correspondence.
2:36:10
There's nothing. Wrong with that.
2:36:12
You don't ever have to show up on campus.
2:36:14
Thousands of people who attend classes in universities cheat,
2:36:17
lie, or bribe their way to get a degree.
2:36:20
I didn't do any of those. OK, Getting a degree from an
2:36:23
accredited university does not guarantee any level of
2:36:25
intelligence. I mean, most of them still
2:36:26
believe they came from a rock, for heaven's sake.
2:36:28
OK if you don't. Like my degree?
2:36:31
Then call me Cantor Bubba. And let's get back to the topic.
2:36:34
If I were dumb or desperate, I could travel to universities
2:36:37
around the world and take pictures of where their actual
2:36:39
degrees are from. I was at Rutgers University and
2:36:42
I saw a little closet under a stairwell.
2:36:46
It's a converted closet where they handle their correspondence
2:36:49
for those that are getting degrees.
2:36:50
In, I don't know, Chinese or something, nobody does it.
2:36:54
So they got one or two students or you know, who knows how many.
2:36:56
So they you don't need a whole university for that degree
2:36:59
because there's just nobody's doing it.
2:37:02
So the fact that it's a little closet under a stairwell, does
2:37:04
that prove it's not legitimate? No, come on, grow up, get a
2:37:10
life. OK?
2:37:10
I think you can. You can have a degree.
2:37:14
Atheists occasionally ask the question if if the entire army
2:37:17
of Pharaoh drowned in the Red Sea, why haven't we found any
2:37:19
evidence? Where's the evidence for these
2:37:21
guys drowning in the Red Sea? And it's a fair question, OK?
2:37:24
Many atheists ask very fair questions.
2:37:26
And it's time Christians could be ready always to give an
2:37:28
answer to every man that asketh the reason of the hope that's in
2:37:30
you. And I'm sorry this taping has
2:37:32
gone so long for Part 7, but there's a lot of questions that
2:37:34
get asked. And we do many more on our radio
2:37:37
series, radio program every day from 4:30 to 6:00 Central time.
2:37:40
You can call in on truthradio.com or
2:37:42
doctordino.com. But in Exodus chapter 14, God
2:37:45
told Moses to go and camp by the sea.
2:37:48
And it says they went across on dry ground and the waters were a
2:37:51
wall beside them. It does not say they walked
2:37:54
through a Reed sea. There's some even liberal
2:37:57
Christians that say, oh, yeah, they just walked through shallow
2:37:59
water. Well, then how did Pharaoh's
2:38:00
army drowned? You tell everybody, lay down,
2:38:03
don't get up, OK? I mean come on, it was dry
2:38:06
ground and the Bible says God took off their chariot wheels.
2:38:09
So what's the truth about the Red Sea crossing?
2:38:12
It says the waters returned and covered the Chariots and the
2:38:15
horsemen. If you look at the country of
2:38:17
Egypt in the lower right hand corner of this map, you'll see
2:38:20
Egypt has the Red Sea right beside it.
2:38:22
It comes up into two branches. The one on the left called the
2:38:25
Gulf of Suez where the Suez Canal is.
2:38:27
The one on the right called the Gulf of Aqaba.
2:38:30
Actually, there are two parts to the Red Sea.
2:38:32
It splits right there around what's called the Sinai
2:38:34
Peninsula, which by the way, is not Sinai.
2:38:36
No, Sinai is not there. But the children of Israel were
2:38:40
leaving Egypt, and it took Pharaoh 3 days to catch them.
2:38:43
They could not have crossed the Gulf of Suez.
2:38:46
They went all the way across the Sinai Peninsula and crossed over
2:38:48
there on the right at the Gulf of Aqaba, right where that red
2:38:52
dot is, next to the Gulf of Aqaba, it's actually a beach.
2:38:56
There's a dry riverbed that runs right up to that beach and it's
2:39:00
mountains on both sides and no escape any place, certainly not
2:39:03
with a bunch of people with their families, you know, kids
2:39:06
and wagons and animals and stuff like that.
2:39:07
You're not going to get up either one of those mountain
2:39:09
ranges. This satellite view is kind of
2:39:11
from the north, a little strange view there.
2:39:12
You can see that beach right there.
2:39:14
The children of Israel went out of Egypt at the far upper right
2:39:16
and traveled all the way across the Sinai Peninsula and ended up
2:39:20
stuck on that beach. That beach is huge.
2:39:24
Those are little buildings, those little squares on there,
2:39:26
actually warehouses and stuff. It's monster beach, big enough
2:39:28
to hold 2 or 3 million people. No problem.
2:39:31
So here's the children of Israel stuck on the beach.
2:39:33
They can't go north or South. There's mountains both ways.
2:39:35
They can't go back. There's Pharaoh's army coming
2:39:37
through the gap and they can't go ahead.
2:39:39
There's a Red Sea in front of them.
2:39:40
So what do you do? Well, you cry and blame God for
2:39:43
your problems. That's what everybody does.
2:39:44
OK, God, I can't, can't get out of this.
2:39:46
What do you do? Dr. Riverbed, where they came
2:39:48
out at the South end of the beach.
2:39:51
Ron Wyatt years ago found a pillar right there.
2:39:54
He pulled the pillar out, scrubbed it off and set it up on
2:39:56
concrete. And it was pretty badly eroded,
2:39:59
but some of it was still legible.
2:40:00
And it said in paleo Hebrew, apparently the pillar was
2:40:03
erected by King Solomon. And it said this is the pillar
2:40:07
erected by King Solomon to commemorate the crossing of the
2:40:09
Red Sea. Gilbert Vincent's a good friend
2:40:12
of mine from Texas. He's been there a couple times.
2:40:14
He got a bulldozer and helped stand it up straight and put the
2:40:16
more dirt around it because it was kind of leaning over.
2:40:18
He climbed up to the top of it, right there at where this beach
2:40:21
is. Is a It's about 8 miles across
2:40:24
the Red Sea. Well, at that point, there's a
2:40:27
shallow spot. The deep up toward the city of
2:40:31
Elat, where I was a few years ago, is about 5000 feet deep on
2:40:35
both sides. And this whole Gulf of Aquaba is
2:40:38
about 5000 feet. Except for right there, there's
2:40:41
a shallow spot. Should I say shallow?
2:40:44
It's actually 900 feet deep. That's still pretty deep, but
2:40:47
900 feet over 8 miles is not bad.
2:40:49
It's a gentle slope down, gentle slope back up.
2:40:51
And if you go scuba diving, scuba diving down there, you'll
2:40:53
see the rocks have been moved out of the way.
2:40:55
Somebody cleared a path across the bottom of the Red Sea,
2:40:59
probably done by Moses and the people.
2:41:02
The Bible says Pharaoh's army drowned trying to cross the Red
2:41:05
Sea. The waters were a wall unto
2:41:06
them. To walk 8 miles would take, you
2:41:09
know, half a day with all the children of Israel pulling their
2:41:12
wagons and everything else at the bottom.
2:41:14
According to Ron Wyatt, he went scuba diving down there and
2:41:17
found human bones, horses, hooves, chariot wheels.
2:41:20
Now, there's some controversy about the chariot wheels, but
2:41:22
this is what appears to be a chariot wheel, gold plated.
2:41:25
They said you can't pick it up. It's a gold veneer because it
2:41:27
just crumbles. The woods routed out.
2:41:29
It's like Chrome plating on a car.
2:41:30
If you put a bumper in the water, let the bumper rust out,
2:41:33
just had the Chrome, you couldn't pick it up, it would
2:41:35
crumble. OK.
2:41:36
But there are those who argue that's not legitimate.
2:41:38
I don't know. But I'm just telling you what
2:41:40
Ron told me that there were real chariot wheels when he took the
2:41:42
pictures to the Gulf, to the antiquities department in Egypt.
2:41:46
They said, oh wow, this is from the 18th dynasty.
2:41:49
He said how do you know that? They said, well the 18th dynasty
2:41:51
is the only one that used 4/6 and 8 spoke chariot wheels and
2:41:55
all three were down there. So this was the same guys that
2:41:58
chased Moses out of Egypt, the 18th dynasty.
2:42:01
So that makes Mount Sinai over in Arabia because remember they
2:42:05
crossed the Red Sea and then they came to Mount Sinai.
2:42:08
The Sinai Peninsula is not where Mount Sinai is.
2:42:10
Mount Sinai is in Arabia, right over there in that red section.
2:42:14
There is actually the holy precinct where Mount Sinai is.
2:42:17
Galatians tells us Sinai's in Arabia says so in Galatians
2:42:21
chapter 4. If Ron is right on all this, and
2:42:23
I believe that he is, and you can see much more on his
2:42:25
Discoveries series, it's 100 bucks for five DVDs.
2:42:29
That's how they fund their ministry to go back over there
2:42:30
and do more research. Well worth getting.
2:42:33
You can see this is apparently Mount Sinai.
2:42:35
There's video footage of all this.
2:42:36
The top is still burned, became a type of a volcanic glass like
2:42:41
Obsidian or something. It actually burned the rock at
2:42:44
the bottom. You can see the outline where
2:42:46
the border was set up because remember, Moses told the
2:42:48
children of Israel don't come up onto the mountain and they put
2:42:50
it says they established a border.
2:42:52
Well, the pillars are still there.
2:42:54
There's also apparently the altar that Aaron made with a
2:42:57
golden calf. They, you know, made the golden
2:42:59
calf on the altar, but on the side of the altar they drew a
2:43:02
picture of a calf or cow still there.
2:43:05
God told Moses to smite the rock and water would come out.
2:43:09
Well, most of the Bible story picture books have, you know, a
2:43:11
little trickle of water coming out of a rock and somebody
2:43:13
holding a cup. How are you going to feed our
2:43:16
water, 2 million people and their animals with a trickle of
2:43:18
water coming out of a rock. That's a stupid idea.
2:43:21
Some show a little bitter picture, actually, actually a
2:43:24
little bigger picture of water. Actually, it's probably huge.
2:43:26
A lot of folks think this is the rock that Moses smoked.
2:43:31
That rock sticking up on that mountain is five stories tall,
2:43:35
50 feet to the top of that rock, as tall as these trees around
2:43:38
here, and it split right down the middle on both sides.
2:43:41
There are erosion marks. Water came pouring out of that
2:43:43
rock. So you can see the video series
2:43:45
for Ron if you want more on that.
2:43:46
And Sodom also, He's got a lot of stuff on his website and on
2:43:50
his video series about Sodom and Gomorrah.
2:43:52
The Dead Sea in Israel has five spots along there that are just
2:43:56
real high salt concentration and totally destroyed landscape.
2:44:03
Ron says he found, and I believe him, Sodom, Gomorrah, Gera,
2:44:07
Gaza, Admah, Liboam. These are the ones that the
2:44:11
cities that were destroyed. You can read through Genesis
2:44:13
chapter 14 and Deuteronomy chapter 29 and get more on this,
2:44:17
but God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah.
2:44:19
Apparently Sodom and Gomorrah are right there along the South
2:44:22
end of the Dead Sea, right by Masada.
2:44:25
When I was up on top of Masada a couple years ago, you can look
2:44:28
down and see this big square in the ground where apparently it
2:44:31
used to be a city. This picture shows what looks
2:44:34
like pilasters and towers and of an ancient wall.
2:44:40
Well, that's the way they built their cities back then.
2:44:42
If you make it up over one wall, you got the enemy dumping arrows
2:44:45
and hot oil and things down on you.
2:44:46
You know, from the 2nd wall. Not a good place to be.
2:44:49
We have sulfur balls. I've got some here on the table.
2:44:51
These are actual sulfur balls from Sodom and Gomorrah.
2:44:55
They smell like sulfur. They're 99.9% sulfur and they're
2:45:01
burned out. OK, if you break them open, some
2:45:03
are still yellow inside. Most of them are pretty badly
2:45:07
burned. Some of them are bigger, like
2:45:08
golf ball size. But millions of these sulfur
2:45:10
balls are over there, right in that one area.
2:45:12
It literally rained burning sulfur so hot that it took the
2:45:16
bricks of the city and baked it into ash.
2:45:20
These sulfur balls specimens were tested by Michael Benidia,
2:45:23
friend of mine up in New York. He said they were 97.4% pure
2:45:26
sulfur when he had them tested. No place else in the world has
2:45:30
these phenomena. We've got hundreds of them in
2:45:32
our museum out here. Sulphur balls from Sodom and
2:45:35
Gomorrah. Apparently the cities were
2:45:37
actually burned up. If you dig into the ash, it
2:45:40
looks like just a Cliff of ash. That's actually the old city
2:45:42
wall. I mean, that was the brick under
2:45:45
2600° temperature. It turned into ash.
2:45:48
Laminated. You can talk to Richard.
2:45:50
That's Richard in the picture. They're digging his finger into
2:45:52
the ash and there's sulphur balls in there.
2:45:56
We've got one that apparently is a part of a human bone that was
2:45:59
baked. It's in our museum if you want
2:46:01
to see that one out there. So I believe, I believe they
2:46:03
found Sodom and Gomorrah. And you can check the video
2:46:06
discoveries videos if you want more on that.
2:46:08
I often get asked what about the Unicorn?
2:46:10
The Bible talks about a Unicorn. What is it?
2:46:12
Well, I don't know, but I'll give you the theories, OK.
2:46:14
The Bible says he has the strength of a Unicorn.
2:46:16
Numbers 23. The strength of a Unicorn #24
2:46:19
#24 Will the Unicorn be willing to serve thee, or abide by thy
2:46:23
crib? Can canst thou bind the Unicorn?
2:46:25
The Bible's teaching us here. The Unicorn is strong.
2:46:29
He is unwilling to be a servant. You can't tame him, and you
2:46:34
don't. Nobody ever harnesses him to
2:46:36
plow your fields. You just can't do it.
2:46:39
He's untameable. Wilt thou trust him because his
2:46:41
strength is great? Wilt thou leave thy labor to him
2:46:44
that he'll bring it home? No, he won't.
2:46:46
Psalm says he can skip like a calf in Lebanon and Syrian like
2:46:49
a young Unicorn. So the animal could skip.
2:46:52
And it says in Psalm 92 the horn of an Unicorn.
2:46:56
This is one of the only references that makes people
2:46:58
think the Unicorn had one horn because it says the singular
2:47:02
horn of the Unicorn. I believe the Unicorn is
2:47:05
probably more like a one horn dinosaur.
2:47:08
I doubt it's a horse with a horn, but we've all heard that
2:47:10
story all our life, so we're not going to get that out of our
2:47:12
system. OK, but if you had a open mind,
2:47:15
if you look at this, you'd say, man, a lot of dinosaurs had a
2:47:17
single horn. The monoclonia, Styracosaurus,
2:47:21
triceratops had three. But maybe they're only counting
2:47:23
the center one. Other two might have been some
2:47:24
other projection. I don't know.
2:47:26
Anyway, I don't think the Unicorn was necessarily a horse
2:47:28
with a horn. Probably more like a reptile.
2:47:30
Giant reptile. All right, question.
2:47:33
Do wisdom teeth prove evolution? Well, Jack Coazzo is a dentist
2:47:38
from New Jersey. He spoke at our boot camp here
2:47:40
last year. Some of you got to hear Jack
2:47:42
speak. This book Buried Alive is great
2:47:44
about the Neanderthals. And wisdom teeth are not proof
2:47:47
for evolution. They're actually proof that man
2:47:49
used to live longer and grow bigger.
2:47:52
Today, 60% of Americans have trouble with their wisdom teeth
2:47:55
and have to have them removed or have problems with them. 60%,
2:47:58
Many other countries don't have problems with their wisdom teeth
2:48:01
because they've got a coarser diet and because of the rough
2:48:04
stuff they chew and hard more, you know, raw vegetables and
2:48:06
stuff. Their wisdom teeth come in when
2:48:08
they're 18 or 20 with no problem.
2:48:10
Today we have a softer diet. 60% have trouble.
2:48:14
But evolutionists argue that wisdom teeth are proof for
2:48:16
evolution, when actually they're proof that man used to be living
2:48:19
longer, maturing slower, and growing bigger.
2:48:23
If you're getting bigger, by the time you're 18 or 20 as your
2:48:26
head enlarges, is time for that last tooth to come in to fill in
2:48:28
the back of the jaw. Not proof for evolution, just
2:48:31
proof that man used to live longer.
2:48:33
Question. Why are some names missing in
2:48:35
the Bible? Well, before we get into the the
2:48:38
three missing names in the genealogy, you need to
2:48:41
understand the Bible says be careful about endless
2:48:43
genealogies, which minister questions.
2:48:45
OK, it's pretty tough to follow some of the genealogies.
2:48:48
But if you look at the genealogy in Genesis and Matthew and Luke,
2:48:52
it gives the genealogy to Christ or part of the genealogy to
2:48:55
Christ in Genesis. Luke, I took it and reversed the
2:48:58
order because instead of saying which was the child of which was
2:49:01
the child of Luke says which was The Who was the father of the
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father of or you know, it reverses the order.
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So I put them in reverse order here.
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And by the way, the two different genealogies after King
2:49:10
David are following two of David's different sons, one to
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Mary, one to Joseph. One's the kingly line, 1's the
2:49:16
priestly line. That's why there's a difference
2:49:17
there. But there's a guy in Luke's
2:49:19
genealogy who's mentioned here named Canaan.
2:49:22
Who was Canaan? Jack John Jonathan Sarfati wrote
2:49:26
an article about this on the Answers in Genesis website that
2:49:28
says this was a mistake. And he says this is one of the
2:49:31
few copyist errors in the Bible. And I love Jonathan, I forgot
2:49:34
for what he's doing, but I strongly disagree.
2:49:37
And we wrote him a good article saying, Jonathan, you're wrong
2:49:39
about this one and did not get a, you know, a retraction or
2:49:42
anything yet. But Canaan is one of three names
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that is in the genealogy, in some genealogy genealogies, but
2:49:51
not in other genealogies. Why was Canaan added?
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Well, if you go to our website, doctordino.com, there's a long
2:49:57
article explaining why Canaan was there.
2:49:59
I asked GAIL Riplinger, who's a King James expert.
2:50:01
I said, why is Canaan added? She said, oh, there's 8 possible
2:50:04
reasons and she gave Adam and they're all on her website.
2:50:07
But Genesis 5 does not mention Canaan.
2:50:09
Luke chapter 3 does mention Canaan.
2:50:11
So we put a long article about that.
2:50:13
Rather than take an hour now and answer that, just read that
2:50:15
call. If you have any questions, you
2:50:16
can call to our radio program. But the Ammonites, it says in
2:50:18
Ezekiel 21 their name would be remembered no more.
2:50:22
There are some people taken out of the genealogies because they
2:50:25
did things that were bad. Their name's going to be
2:50:27
remembered no more. Ezekiel 25 talks about that.
2:50:30
That was put out, their name forever and ever.
2:50:32
Psalms Chapter 9, the names of the idols out of the land and
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they shall no more, no more be remembered.
2:50:38
The Bible tells us in Jude that Adam Enoch was the 7th from
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Adam. So there's no gap there.
2:50:46
From Adam to Enoch there's no gap and it says no way.
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The 8th person. I mean, the Bible gives us clues
2:50:52
that tell us we can get pretty close on these genealogies.
2:50:54
And I think the chart that we have is correct.
2:50:58
Now there is a little discrepancy over how old Tara
2:51:01
was when Abram was born. I'm aware of the discrepancy.
2:51:04
Some people say Tara was 70, Some people say Tara was 130.
2:51:08
Sixty year difference. And we cover all that on our
2:51:10
website. Also, why we chose to use the
2:51:12
100 and or 70 instead of the 130 that we got a good reason for
2:51:16
that. So when did animals become
2:51:18
carnivorous? Well, I don't know anybody who
2:51:20
knows, but two options are today.
2:51:24
Obviously, some animals eat meat.
2:51:26
The Bible says in the creation, everything ate plants.
2:51:29
So when did that change? I don't know.
2:51:31
But some people think it changed shortly after Adam's sin because
2:51:35
once they fell, the world began, you know, thorns and thistles,
2:51:38
and things might have changed right then.
2:51:41
It might have changed after the flood when they got off the ark
2:51:43
and had, you know, less food supply and more problems.
2:51:46
And so they just, I don't know, got adapted to eating meat or
2:51:49
something. But there's a lion.
2:51:51
It was used for years in the movie sets that refused to eat
2:51:54
meat, called a little tyke, lived to be, you know, I think
2:51:57
nine years old, never ate meat in its life, Refused.
2:52:00
There's a whole lady told me they've got a whole kennel full
2:52:02
of dogs. They raised dogs.
2:52:04
And she said none of our dogs eat meat, all vegetables.
2:52:06
During World War 2, when meat was rare in Europe, they were
2:52:09
feeding the zoo animals in London vegetables.
2:52:11
That's all they had. They lived on cabbage.
2:52:14
A guy sent me a videotape of two hours of grizzly bears in his
2:52:17
front yard up in Canada, eating grass, just grazing on grass for
2:52:22
two hours. I don't want to edit in the two
2:52:25
hour video. It gets a little boring after a
2:52:26
while. There's these grizzly bears
2:52:27
eating grass. OK Yogi Bear likes to get a
2:52:29
picnic basket if he can, but he'll settle for nuts and
2:52:31
berries if he has to. OK.
2:52:33
So that's why I don't think it's something we can prove when it
2:52:36
happened. But I suspect it happened before
2:52:38
the flood came. They became carnivorous or
2:52:42
shortly after the flood. All right, people say Brother
2:52:44
Hovind, you get kind of sarcastic with the atheist,
2:52:46
don't you? Yeah, I know.
2:52:47
And I'm sorry. I'm working on it, but I'm not
2:52:48
working on it too hard. OK Here's why we answer the
2:52:52
skeptics. My son and I spent 8 hours
2:52:54
answering them and we'll probably redo this someday.
2:52:56
All the skeptics? There are nearly 2000 anti
2:52:58
hovind websites out there. So why do you answer them and be
2:53:02
sarcastic? Well in my 30 some years in the
2:53:05
ministry I have seen this evolution theory destroy the
2:53:09
lives of thousands and thousands of kids.
2:53:13
So I have a hard time being patient with those who are doing
2:53:16
the destroying, especially when you know they're lying to
2:53:19
support their theory. We cover that on video 4.
2:53:22
Bible talks about beware lest any man spoil with you
2:53:25
philosophy and vain deceit in Colossians chapter 2.
2:53:28
If I were attacking Hitler's death camps to rescue the Jews,
2:53:32
I would have a hard time, you know, being nice to the guards.
2:53:36
I would probably want to shoot them and, you know, rescue the
2:53:39
rescue the people. And I guess I have a little bit
2:53:41
of a hard time when I go into universities 99 Times Now I've
2:53:43
debated professors and I have a hard time.
2:53:47
You know, look, you're the guy who's lying to these kids
2:53:50
destroying their faith. And you know, I respect them and
2:53:52
I'm nice to them as nice as I can.
2:53:53
But I do get kind of sarcastic. Here's why the Bible says smite
2:53:57
a scorner and the simple will beware Proverbs chapter 19.
2:54:01
When the scorner is punished, the simple is made wise.
2:54:04
Cast out the scorner and contention shall go out.
2:54:07
In the book of first Kings, Elijah mocked the prophets of
2:54:11
Baal. By the way, this is where rock
2:54:14
music was invented. Come on, bail, light my fire.
2:54:17
He was singing. OK, so many old timers recognize
2:54:19
that song. But here's here's a preacher
2:54:21
mocking the false prophets. Oh, you say that's not very
2:54:24
tolerant. That's correct.
2:54:25
Not tolerant at all. You're not supposed to be
2:54:27
tolerant of false prophets. OK, Jesus called the scribes and
2:54:30
Pharisees hypocrites, whited sepulchers full of dead men's
2:54:34
bones and uncleanness. Oh, generation of Vipers.
2:54:36
He called them a bunch of snakes.
2:54:38
You Vipers, you're evil. He said you're a bunch of
2:54:41
serpents and snakes. I mean, he's not being very
2:54:44
tolerant of the other religions, is he?
2:54:45
OK, Jesus said go tell Herod that fox you're calling a
2:54:50
political leader a fox? Yeah, I've called Bill Clinton
2:54:53
and some of our presidents and leaders pretty bad names too.
2:54:56
OK, I think you should if they're doing evil.
2:54:59
Bible talks about the stiff necked, uncircumcised in heart
2:55:01
you full of all subtlety and mischief, your child of the
2:55:04
devil, your enemy of righteousness, your pervert.
2:55:06
I mean the Bible is pretty strong, OK?
2:55:08
All through the Bible God calls people fools, brutish, simple
2:55:12
perverse, scorners, wicked, you know, stiff necked, full of
2:55:16
subtlety and evil mischief. Child of the devil.
2:55:19
I'm just like to try trying to be like the heavenly Father.
2:55:22
That's why I'm sarcastic with these guys.
2:55:23
Hey look, you're a lion or something else.
2:55:26
So why don't I answer all the anti hoven websites.
2:55:29
I've been challenged 100 times to e-mail debates.
2:55:33
I'm not getting it in going to get into an e-mail debate, I
2:55:35
type 12 words a minute with 19 mistakes.
2:55:37
I'm just not going to do that. OK.
2:55:39
All they want to do is tie up all my time.
2:55:41
I've got a radio program every day that I pay for hour and a
2:55:44
half. Call in with your questions or
2:55:45
instant message made. Doctor Dino live AOL instant
2:55:47
message. We'll be glad to take your
2:55:48
questions. One guy said, Brother Hovind,
2:55:51
you are the most hated man in our chat room.
2:55:54
I can't believe how many people talk about you.
2:55:56
Apparently you struck a nerve. Keep up the good work.
2:55:58
Amen. So I gladly answer any questions
2:56:02
I have. Question answer time.
2:56:03
Every time I go speak, we offer this question answer video here.
2:56:07
If you got other questions, send them in.
2:56:08
I have a standing offer to debate any evolutionist anywhere
2:56:11
in front of their university. I'll pay them 200 bucks if
2:56:14
they'll debate me and pay them a quarter million if they've got
2:56:17
evidence for evolution. So far, nearly 4000 have refused
2:56:20
to debate. Last week I spoke at University
2:56:23
of Northern Michigan. 80 professors refused to debate me.
2:56:26
The week before that I was in University of Wisconsin in
2:56:29
Milwaukee. 100 professors were personally asked, 100 of them
2:56:33
refused. So I'm not going to get into an
2:56:35
e-mail debate. I speak over 900 * a year.
2:56:39
There are millions of people who want to hear, so why waste time
2:56:42
on those that don't want to hear?
2:56:44
I just don't waste time on them now.
2:56:45
I don't want to cast my pearls before swine like it says in
2:56:47
Matthew Chapter 7. If I had had to plant a garden
2:56:51
to feed my family and half my yard was good dirt and the other
2:56:54
half is Hard Rock, I'm going to plant the good dirt first.
2:56:58
If I get time, then I'll go work on the rock.
2:57:01
If I don't get time, Oh well, I didn't get time.
2:57:04
And there are so many millions who want to hear.
2:57:06
I'm going to work on those first.
2:57:07
And then those who don't want to hear, well, I'll get to them if
2:57:10
I get time. That's why I just don't waste.
2:57:12
Much time with that. All right, hope you've enjoyed
2:57:14
our question answer session. I know it's been long, but we
2:57:17
always get questions on things like this.
2:57:19
My schedule is on my website, doctordino.com.
2:57:21
If I'm coming to your area, come on out.
2:57:23
Bring skeptics and scoffers. We always have Q&A time.
2:57:26
Sometimes they get very lively. That's fine.
2:57:28
I don't have all the answers, but I know who does.
2:57:31
It's our Heavenly Father, the God that created this world,
2:57:34
told us to study, to show our self approved unto God and told
2:57:37
us to be ready always to give an answer.
2:57:39
And that's what I want to do. I want to please Him and win
2:57:41
souls to His Kingdom. So if you have things that are
2:57:44
keeping you from trusting Christ as your Savior, get them
2:57:47
resolved. There is an answer out there.
2:57:49
I may not have it, but I might know who does, and I can steer
2:57:51
you that direction. If you're listening to this tape
2:57:53
or coming to one of our seminars and you're not sure you're going
2:57:55
to heaven, most important thing you need to do is give your
2:57:59
heart to Jesus Christ and be saved.
2:58:01
You need to realize you're a Sinner.
2:58:02
You're going to hell. Christ died for you, and He's
2:58:05
willing to save you if you'll ask Him.
2:58:08
So we'll have an invitation here to show you how you can trust
2:58:10
Christ as your Savior. Or you can go to our website,
2:58:12
doctordino.com and read right there how to go to heaven.
2:58:16
Or go to Ray Comfort's website, livingwaters.com and learn more
2:58:20
about how to go to heaven. Hope this helps.
2:58:22
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