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- 3:27Speaker 2: just discuss Sunday and then how it affects next Sunday,
- 3:32Speaker 2: and let's just get this conversation out of the way.
- 3:34Speaker 2: I know he wants to put it behind him, but
- 3:37Speaker 2: I don't think that Seaork fans are ready to put
- 3:39Speaker 2: it behind them yet. I think there's more to this conversation.
- 3:42Speaker 2: We got a lot of input, a lot of intel
- 3:45Speaker 2: over the course of the last thirty six hours since
- 3:47Speaker 2: this all happened. So let's have the conversation and then
- 3:51Speaker 2: maybe we don't discuss it again.
- 3:53Speaker 5: I think that would be great.
- 3:54Speaker 3: That'd be great.
- 3:55Speaker 5: Yeah, let's pop up talk it out and then let's
- 3:58Speaker 5: talk it out.
- 3:59Speaker 4: But hopefully we never have to discuss it again, because
- 4:01Speaker 4: nothing like that ever happens again.
- 4:02Speaker 3: That would be great.
- 4:03Speaker 2: Yes, Obviously, Reek Wollan came close to being the goat
- 4:07Speaker 2: of Sunday's game for his selfish act in which he
- 4:11Speaker 2: decided to taunt the Rams bullpen their sideline after stopping
- 4:16Speaker 2: them on third and twelve. He made the play that
- 4:18Speaker 2: kept them from a first down, and it really did
- 4:21Speaker 2: feel like a game's over moment. I mean, still fourth
- 4:25Speaker 2: quarter remaining. It was the end of the third quarter.
- 4:27Speaker 2: You were up two scores at that point, and you're
- 4:30Speaker 2: going to be getting the ball back because the Rams
- 4:32Speaker 2: were certainly going to punt, they weren't in go for
- 4:35Speaker 2: it mode yet at that time in the game, it
- 4:38Speaker 2: really did feel like, man, we just closed the door
- 4:41Speaker 2: on them, except for one problem. Rireek Wollen decided to
- 4:44Speaker 2: open the door back up. Selfishly, went to the sidelines,
- 4:49Speaker 2: taunted the entire Rams sideline, and the official ended up
- 4:53Speaker 2: getting getting him for a fifteen yard unsportsmanlike penalty. Gave
- 4:58Speaker 2: them a fresh set of the downs. They ended up
- 5:00Speaker 2: going down and scoring, and then we have a game
- 5:02Speaker 2: on our hands again, and it was nail bider all
- 5:05Speaker 2: the way down the stretch. So we did have our
- 5:07Speaker 2: conversations yesterday. Nobody was defending Rik Woolen's actions. There was
- 5:13Speaker 2: a conversation. Hugh Mellen brought up the fact that he
- 5:16Speaker 2: thought that the official could have handled that situation better
- 5:20Speaker 2: and in such a big moment, in such a big game,
- 5:23Speaker 2: maybe been a little more hands on to drive Reek
- 5:26Speaker 2: Woolen away from receiving that penalty, that he could have
- 5:31Speaker 2: walked him out of that situation, and he felt that
- 5:34Speaker 2: the official came up short. Well, our official guy we
- 5:37Speaker 2: trust to make this call. His CBS rules analyst jeens Sterotor.
- 5:41Speaker 2: He was with us at eight o'clock this morning. Here's
- 5:44Speaker 2: what he thought of it.
- 5:45Speaker 6: From the officiating side, I would tell you it's too
- 5:48Speaker 6: big of a moment to let your emotions get to
- 5:52Speaker 6: a place where you could affect the outcome of the game.
- 5:54Speaker 6: So I would say that from like our window.
- 5:56Speaker 7: Now.
- 5:57Speaker 6: That official that happened to be on that sideline as
- 6:00Speaker 6: Kent Paign, who's been in this league for twenty plus
- 6:03Speaker 6: years and is a fantastic official, and I think if
- 6:06Speaker 6: you really watch it, you can see him almost try
- 6:09Speaker 6: to talk him off the ledge there once or twice.
- 6:11Speaker 6: In games like that, when you do have high emotion,
- 6:14Speaker 6: which definitely championships carry, you know, when those situations arise,
- 6:19Speaker 6: you do want to verbally get to that player as
- 6:23Speaker 6: quickly as you can and try to talk them off
- 6:25Speaker 6: the ledge, understanding the you know the amount of emotion
- 6:28Speaker 6: and intensity that's happening in real time. But once you
- 6:32Speaker 6: do do that and then they take another bite at
- 6:35Speaker 6: the apple and another bite at the apple, then it's
- 6:38Speaker 6: not really I mean, at that point, now it's a flag, right,
- 6:43Speaker 6: I mean, and it's it's a control element these games.
- 6:47Speaker 6: Players emotionally, physically understand so much most of them that
- 6:54Speaker 6: they have to go play right at the edge to
- 6:56Speaker 6: be able to move on. But within that, I think
- 7:00Speaker 6: it does differ a little sometimes in the postseason as
- 7:03Speaker 6: opposed to high intensity games in.
- 7:05Speaker 3: The regular season.
- 7:06Speaker 6: They are also very aware of the magnitude of what
- 7:09Speaker 6: penalties are and a lot of people say, well, is
- 7:11Speaker 6: there less penalties in the postseason and the rest letting
- 7:14Speaker 6: them play? Not Really, It's a lot of it goes
- 7:17Speaker 6: to the players so that they know that they can
- 7:19Speaker 6: go right to that edge. They're that good and what
- 7:22Speaker 6: constitutes a file a lot of times and what doesn't.
- 7:24Speaker 6: But they also have to play to that edge all
- 7:26Speaker 6: the time. So you do live in that violence constantly
- 7:30Speaker 6: through games like that, and emotionally the same. And I
- 7:32Speaker 6: think what we saw on the sideline, although you know,
- 7:35Speaker 6: we take those clips and see players kind of talking
- 7:38Speaker 6: to each other in a pretty intense fashion, but then
- 7:41Speaker 6: regroup again and understand it, I would say the fact
- 7:44Speaker 6: that he's already recognized where he went and knew it
- 7:47Speaker 6: was too far, it's probably the best thing in hindsight
- 7:51Speaker 6: now that could happen because the Super Bowl is going
- 7:54Speaker 6: to be emotional, but you would hope that his memory
- 7:57Speaker 6: serves him well. But he will play that intense with
- 8:01Speaker 6: just a little less of maybe a wolfing that takes
- 8:04Speaker 6: place after a big play.
- 8:05Speaker 2: All right, there he is. That's the authority right there,
- 8:07Speaker 2: that's a gene's territor. Oh look, I get where Hugh
- 8:10Speaker 2: was coming from. I'm not saying that the official couldn't
- 8:13Speaker 2: have been more hands on or couldn't have gone a
- 8:16Speaker 2: little further out of his way to try to keep
- 8:19Speaker 2: Riek Wolan from committing such a sin in such a
- 8:24Speaker 2: big moment. Yeah, I think he could have gone to
- 8:27Speaker 2: the next level. But if that game would have ended
- 8:31Speaker 2: and the Rams would have won, I can promise you this,
- 8:34Speaker 2: I wouldn't have arrived on Monday morning blaming that call.
- 8:37Speaker 2: I would not have arrived Monday morning during Monday morning quarterback.
- 8:40Speaker 2: I'm not saying he would have, but I personally would
- 8:43Speaker 2: have thought that that call was justified, and it had,
- 8:47Speaker 2: and Reek Wolan is going to have to pay the
- 8:49Speaker 2: price with the Seattle sports fan for the rest of
- 8:52Speaker 2: time because of it. I would have not had any
- 8:57Speaker 2: issue whatsoever. I would not even accounted it among the
- 9:00Speaker 2: things that I I mean, I would have certainly counted
- 9:04Speaker 2: among the things that cost them the victory. But I
- 9:07Speaker 2: would not have counted it as something that you know,
- 9:12Speaker 2: I would have disagreed with in the moment. I thought
- 9:16Speaker 2: it was well justified that that flag was thrown, and
- 9:20Speaker 2: I don't think that it is required of the official
- 9:23Speaker 2: to make sure Rik Woolen behaves himself.
- 9:25Speaker 3: Well the I think you explained that well. And I
- 9:28Speaker 3: think that Hugh gets I mean, Hugh was not saying
- 9:30Speaker 3: it wasn't a foul. He flat out came out and
- 9:33Speaker 3: said it was wrong. What he did, he most certainly
- 9:37Speaker 3: is asking for it. You know, he's he's going above
- 9:40Speaker 3: and beyond what he should be doing as far as
- 9:43Speaker 3: celebrating making a play and forcing a punt, and and
- 9:48Speaker 3: he's basically just like I wish the guy would have
- 9:50Speaker 3: not walked there and probably said hey, that's enough, Hey,
- 9:53Speaker 3: that's enough. That he would have been more along the
- 9:55Speaker 3: lines of something he's seen plenty of times. Well, you
- 9:58Speaker 3: have seen officials kind of run up, you know, a
- 10:01Speaker 3: little pep in their step and get up in between
- 10:03Speaker 3: it and get in his face and say, nah, hey
- 10:06Speaker 3: that's enough. Get because had he done that, I mean,
- 10:09Speaker 3: at first when he gets up and he starts John
- 10:11Speaker 3: at the bench. The referee is only like two yards
- 10:15Speaker 3: from him, and yet he's walking and Reek is kind
- 10:19Speaker 3: of hopping up and down right, and he's pulling his
- 10:21Speaker 3: little face mask down so he can start jawjacking at him.
- 10:24Speaker 3: And then it's one of those I think at that
- 10:27Speaker 3: point he say, hey, that's enough, and he's waiting for
- 10:29Speaker 3: him to heed that advice. That's enough, but he doesn't.
- 10:33Speaker 3: Then do a couple of things here and there there
- 10:36Speaker 3: they let him talk. There's just a point when it
- 10:39Speaker 3: goes over the line and it becomes taunting. And when
- 10:41Speaker 3: you start walking then towards their bench, towards their sideline
- 10:46Speaker 3: and at their players, and you continue to talk, then
- 10:49Speaker 3: it becomes a foul. And I mean, I'm I'm not
- 10:52Speaker 3: one that wants the referees to insert themselves into the
- 10:55Speaker 3: outcome of the game, but I do want them to
- 10:58Speaker 3: call the game by the the rules, and those rules
- 11:01Speaker 3: are especially something like taunting is is very It's fluid.
- 11:06Speaker 3: It seems like, right I mean, there's guys, these guys
- 11:08Speaker 3: talk a lot when they're out there on the field,
- 11:10Speaker 3: and rightfully, so it's fired up game and you're trying
- 11:12Speaker 3: to smack somebody and inflict some pain and it's a
- 11:15Speaker 3: battle of trying to crush the other teams will I'm
- 11:18Speaker 3: okay with all of that, And yet there has to
- 11:20Speaker 3: be something as a professional athlete where you know where
- 11:22Speaker 3: the line is. And if Riquolan hasn't figured out where
- 11:25Speaker 3: the line is even though he's jumped over it multiple times,
- 11:29Speaker 3: the taunting penalty. You and I talked about it off
- 11:31Speaker 3: the are yesterday, that you make a hit and now
- 11:33Speaker 3: they don't want you to stand up over the guy
- 11:36Speaker 3: and look down on him, right they That to me
- 11:38Speaker 3: is like, boy, that's really splitting hairs because it's a
- 11:41Speaker 3: natural reaction of I just smacked you. I'm picking myself
- 11:45Speaker 3: up off of being on top of you, and they
- 11:48Speaker 3: kind of want you just to quickly get your head
- 11:50Speaker 3: off of it. Don't stare at him, don't hover over them,
- 11:53Speaker 3: don't flex on them. And yet, on the flip side
- 11:55Speaker 3: of it, every single receiver catches a ball right for
- 11:59Speaker 3: a first down, gets up, spins the ball has to
- 12:01Speaker 3: point first down, maybe do a dance something, and that's
- 12:05Speaker 3: kind of a lot of times is right there in
- 12:07Speaker 3: the face of the defender that was just trying to
- 12:09Speaker 3: do his job. So to me, I think there's a
- 12:11Speaker 3: way in which, like Hugh was kind of getting at,
- 12:14Speaker 3: is there can be two truths that, Yes, he taunted,
- 12:17Speaker 3: he did something that's probably worthy of a flag, and
- 12:20Speaker 3: yet could he have done more, Yes, he could have
- 12:22Speaker 3: done more, where I basically lie the official could have
- 12:25Speaker 3: done more to try to stop it before he throws
- 12:27Speaker 3: a flag because of how big this game is and you're,
- 12:30Speaker 3: you know, you're trying to get the super Bowl. That said,
- 12:33Speaker 3: I don't necessarily know if that's his job. I think
- 12:35Speaker 3: Hughes is just playing something. I wanted to do everything
- 12:38Speaker 3: he possibly can to not have to throw a flag,
- 12:41Speaker 3: and he could have done more before he did throw
- 12:43Speaker 3: the flag, But I don't think that's necessarily his job.
- 12:46Speaker 3: If he if he hadn't said anything to him, then
- 12:48Speaker 3: that would be one thing. But you can see in
- 12:50Speaker 3: the videos that he say, hey, hey, that's enough. And
- 12:53Speaker 3: if he doesn't heed the advice after one or as
- 12:56Speaker 3: as as Jean said, maybe one and a half one,
- 13:00Speaker 3: Hey hey, ma'am, if you don't then turn and start
- 13:04Speaker 3: heading back the other direction, then you're kind of putting
- 13:07Speaker 3: yourself in front of what your team should be. You're
- 13:09Speaker 3: you're putting yourself in front of your team. And that's
- 13:11Speaker 3: where I have an issue with it.
- 13:13Speaker 4: There is no part of what happened that should go
- 13:16Speaker 4: on a ref on the ref I mean, because it
- 13:18Speaker 4: is Rereek woman's responsibility and solely Wreak woman's responsibility to
- 13:23Speaker 4: know that what he was doing is wrong, and he
- 13:25Speaker 4: knew it was wrong. And yeah, pulling down the mount
- 13:27Speaker 4: his you know, his face covering and make sure that
- 13:29Speaker 4: they could.
- 13:30Speaker 5: Hear him and see what he was saying to them.
- 13:32Speaker 5: I mean, he went he took it too far.
- 13:34Speaker 4: You say one thing, you turn, you walk away, but
- 13:36Speaker 4: you can't keep going down the line. So you make
- 13:38Speaker 4: sure that every single person that's right there along the sideline,
- 13:41Speaker 4: here's what you're saying. And then you The thing that
- 13:43Speaker 4: really pissed me off was then he acted surprised when
- 13:47Speaker 4: the flag was thrown at him, and he's like putting
- 13:50Speaker 4: his hands on his head, like, oh, come on, what,
- 13:53Speaker 4: how are you surprised by that? There's there's no part
- 13:56Speaker 4: of you that should be shocked by that. You were
- 13:57Speaker 4: being an idiot and you got called for it, and
- 14:00Speaker 4: it happened to you like six times this year exactly.
- 14:02Speaker 5: And had we lost that game. That would have been
- 14:05Speaker 5: a big reason why.
- 14:06Speaker 4: And I never ever, ever would have thought, gosh, it
- 14:09Speaker 4: was the ref's fault.
- 14:10Speaker 5: He should have come in and done more. No, that
- 14:12Speaker 5: is Reek Wollan's fault.
- 14:13Speaker 2: Yeah, and I will say I mean we talked to
- 14:15Speaker 2: Bucky and Ie off the air, didn't ever really much
- 14:17Speaker 2: time to talk on the air. I've kind of established
- 14:19Speaker 2: myself I am a swallow your damn whistle kind of
- 14:22Speaker 2: fan an analyst. When the game is on the line
- 14:27Speaker 2: end of the fourth quarter, I don't want to see
- 14:29Speaker 2: your call determining the outcome of the game. Now there
- 14:31Speaker 2: are outliers, remember the famous Saints vikings for you know Pi.
- 14:36Speaker 2: I mean, sometimes a mugging takes place, you don't have
- 14:39Speaker 2: any choice. You've got to call in that situation. But
- 14:42Speaker 2: for the most part, I want you to swallow the whistle.
- 14:44Speaker 2: There was still a quarter plus to go in that game,
- 14:47Speaker 2: and I don't think that an official needs to be
- 14:49Speaker 2: swallowing their whistle with time left in the third quarter.
- 14:53Speaker 2: When somebody does something that egregious, Yeah, that was just
- 14:57Speaker 2: that was unsportsmanlike conduct. I mean, look it up in
- 14:59Speaker 2: a dictionary and it's gonna have Wreek Wolan's picture on
- 15:02Speaker 2: it now from this point forward, taunting the Rams with
- 15:06Speaker 2: his hands on his head. I can't believe this happened. So,
- 15:11Speaker 2: I mean, that's just you know, that's where That's where
- 15:13Speaker 2: I'm at with it, That's where Jean's at with it. Now,
- 15:16Speaker 2: the question becomes, you're getting ready for an even bigger stage,
- 15:20Speaker 2: and you're getting ready for even more hype and an
- 15:23Speaker 2: even bigger trophy and even you know, more more hysteria,
- 15:29Speaker 2: and you're gonna get wrapped up into this game as well.
- 15:33Speaker 2: Ken Tariq Wolan even help himself because it can't happen again, right,
- 15:40Speaker 2: And yet we thought that several games ago that he's
- 15:45Speaker 2: not gonna ever do this again, right, Somebody certainly win.
- 15:49Speaker 2: And I think we even had that conversation. Mike McDonald
- 15:52Speaker 2: surely sat him down this time to make sure that
- 15:56Speaker 2: this doesn't happen again. And then it pops up at
- 15:58Speaker 2: the worst possible time of the season to date, and
- 16:02Speaker 2: yet it could pop up again at an even worse
- 16:05Speaker 2: time going forward. And I asked Greg Bell, who follows
- 16:10Speaker 2: them on a daily basis, if maybe the lesson has
- 16:14Speaker 2: finally been learned, or if Rake Woland just is gonna talk.
- 16:19Speaker 7: He's a twenty four year old guy. He's just he's emotional.
- 16:24Speaker 7: He's into social media, he's into the parents and optics
- 16:29Speaker 7: of things. And the thing about this league is once
- 16:32Speaker 7: other teams know that's a thing, they go you and
- 16:36Speaker 7: try to lead you into that as a competitive advantage.
- 16:39Speaker 7: Same thing with DK Metcalf when he was here all
- 16:41Speaker 7: those years. Once the word gets out on the street
- 16:45Speaker 7: that this guy is talks and yaps, so yap back,
- 16:49Speaker 7: and the Rams are yapping at him. At the end
- 16:51Speaker 7: of that play, you could see the sideline that we're
- 16:53Speaker 7: guys john at him too, But you just have to
- 16:56Speaker 7: have the discipline to walk away from they. He would
- 17:01Speaker 7: have been I've been thinking about this. Can we imagine
- 17:05Speaker 7: a bigger goat in Seattle sports history, somebody who did
- 17:09Speaker 7: a singular act that sabotaged the championship? I can't think
- 17:14Speaker 7: of one because there's not an extensive history. I'm not
- 17:17Speaker 7: trying to slight Seattle, but there's not extensive history of
- 17:20Speaker 7: the Seahawks being or any Seattle sports franchise in championship
- 17:26Speaker 7: situations like Sunday. He would have gone down as the
- 17:29Speaker 7: biggest goat in Seattle sports history if they had they
- 17:32Speaker 7: lost that game. And I think he does understand that
- 17:37Speaker 7: the brotherhood and the players and all of that. Winning
- 17:40Speaker 7: of course helps that, but they're saying that's what they
- 17:44Speaker 7: rallied around him for and the emotions of it and
- 17:47Speaker 7: all of that. But I don't know that there needs
- 17:49Speaker 7: to be a ton more said within the building to him.
- 17:53Speaker 7: He I think he gets a grave that almost became.
- 17:57Speaker 3: Yeah. The short it is, yeah, but.
- 18:01Speaker 7: He is just in his mid twenties. And I had
- 18:04Speaker 7: noticed he put out something on social media that addressed
- 18:07Speaker 7: it to the NFL and to the Seahawks that he
- 18:09Speaker 7: was sorry and please forgive him, and yeah, my son
- 18:13Speaker 7: said it was some meme from Madagascar or something.
- 18:15Speaker 3: I don't know, but he made lie of it.
- 18:18Speaker 7: And as I said yesterday, I give him a lot
- 18:20Speaker 7: of credit for even talking about it and owning up
- 18:23Speaker 7: to it. And a lot of people, a lot of
- 18:26Speaker 7: veteran players don't do that.
- 18:27Speaker 2: He said, and he did the right things afterwards. That's
- 18:31Speaker 2: Greg we talked more about. If you want to hear
- 18:32Speaker 2: the entire conversation with both him and Gene, it'll be
- 18:35Speaker 2: available on our podcast at ninety three three KJR dot com.
- 18:38Speaker 2: He did the right things afterwards, but then he's come
- 18:40Speaker 2: back and done the exact same thing. And if I
- 18:43Speaker 2: just disagree with anything that Greg said, it's that I'm
- 18:46Speaker 2: not excusing him for being twenty four years old, Nick Emnoore.
- 18:49Speaker 2: He's twenty one years old, and he's sitting there with
- 18:52Speaker 2: a fourth of the professional football experience that you have,
- 18:56Speaker 2: and he's sitting in there in your face after the
- 18:59Speaker 2: play is over, we're asking you, how stupid can you be?
- 19:02Speaker 2: So I'm not buying that as an excuse. And yet
- 19:06Speaker 2: I don't buy that he's learned his lesson either. I mean, yeah,
- 19:10Speaker 2: he did some funny things. I think he's a likable
- 19:12Speaker 2: young man, talk to him numerous times, but there's something
- 19:17Speaker 2: that just doesn't connect there, Bucky, and I don't trust
- 19:20Speaker 2: that he's done with the behavior. I'll be worried about
- 19:23Speaker 2: it after every single play.
- 19:24Speaker 3: I think on the Super Bowl, I'm with you. I mean,
- 19:27Speaker 3: I'll commend him for, you know, coming out and saying,
- 19:29Speaker 3: even though I made a great play, I wasn't great
- 19:31Speaker 3: for my team, and I got to be better and
- 19:32Speaker 3: I got to just celebrate with my team, not at
- 19:35Speaker 3: the other team's bench. Yeah. Good, So you recognize why
- 19:38Speaker 3: you got the foul, why the penalty was thrown, and
- 19:42Speaker 3: yet it's not the first time. If you were a
- 19:45Speaker 3: rookie and you're excited because this is a big moment,
- 19:48Speaker 3: you hadn't done anything up to this point, and you
- 19:50Speaker 3: just the best, got the emotion, got the best of you,
- 19:53Speaker 3: then he'd be like, all right, it's just one time thing.
- 19:56Speaker 3: I can then maybe chalk that up to your young
- 19:58Speaker 3: and but you're just because you're twenty four doesn't mean
- 20:01Speaker 3: you just well, you're just allowed to be stupid and
- 20:04Speaker 3: do stuff that just could possibly cost your team. There's
- 20:07Speaker 3: people on this team that have been in this game
- 20:09Speaker 3: for ten years and they've worked the entire season, their
- 20:12Speaker 3: entire lives to get to a super Bowl, and your
- 20:16Speaker 3: your lack of control emotionally might have cost them that
- 20:20Speaker 3: opportunity of a lifetime. That to me, is not something
- 20:23Speaker 3: that I can just brush off. Because you're twenty four.
- 20:26Speaker 3: I can't just say well, that's okay. No, it's not okay,
- 20:29Speaker 3: and I'm with you. I don't while his words say
- 20:32Speaker 3: I have to be better and I just need to
- 20:33Speaker 3: celebrate my team. Yeah, you probably should have recognized that
- 20:37Speaker 3: the last time and the time before that, and the
- 20:40Speaker 3: time before that, and that, and that you should have
- 20:42Speaker 3: figured that out already. And so to me, you only
- 20:45Speaker 3: have one more game, and he's obviously a player that
- 20:47Speaker 3: you want to have out there on the field if
- 20:49Speaker 3: you're Mike McDonald. But I'm not playing with that fire
- 20:52Speaker 3: for very long. I'm going to play with it one
- 20:54Speaker 3: more week.
- 20:55Speaker 2: Oh that's it.
- 20:56Speaker 3: And then it's like, nah, I will find somebody with
- 20:59Speaker 3: maybe less measurables, not as fast, not as long, but
- 21:04Speaker 3: definitely a little bit more control of his ownotions.
- 21:06Speaker 5: Familiar and and.
- 21:08Speaker 2: I'll say this, I mean that wasn't the only misstep.
- 21:11Speaker 2: Even on that drive. He had a five yard penalty
- 21:13Speaker 2: that gave him a first down earlier in that drive,
- 21:15Speaker 2: and he gave up the game winning touchdown on the
- 21:18Speaker 2: very next play. It was just a disaster. He like
- 21:20Speaker 2: single handedly like walked the Rams back into the game,
- 21:24Speaker 2: like ushered them down, like Bucky at Grace's wedding.
- 21:27Speaker 3: Tomorrow better tomorrow.
- 21:31Speaker 2: He just like ushered them right back into the Hey,
- 21:33Speaker 2: don't worry about it, don't look so gloom. I'll get
- 21:36Speaker 2: you back in this game. Single handedly did it. And
- 21:40Speaker 2: I appreciate I really appreciate Nick game and worry. I
- 21:44Speaker 2: appreciate Ernest Jones said, hey, he knows, he knows. I
- 21:47Speaker 2: mean he could read his lips like he had to
- 21:49Speaker 2: calm down the situation. Everybody had to calm down the situation.
- 21:52Speaker 2: And I appreciate that, even the way that the team
- 21:55Speaker 2: has handled it post game. But somebody, somebody better make
- 22:01Speaker 2: sure Rik Wolan's got the message.
- 22:03Speaker 4: I would say that I think this time might be
- 22:05Speaker 4: different because all of his teammates were angry by it.
- 22:08Speaker 4: It's not just a coach who is mad at the situation.
- 22:11Speaker 4: I mean, he really made his teammates upset. So I
- 22:13Speaker 4: think I'm hoping that would be the thing he needed
- 22:16Speaker 4: to be, like, oh, yeah, I did screw up this time.
- 22:18Speaker 2: You know, usually intimidates people Harvey Kytell in movies. Maybe
- 22:22Speaker 2: Harvey Kytell should go take a sure, you know, go
- 22:25Speaker 2: visit with him.
- 22:26Speaker 1: All right, the old judge is gonna the old judge.
- 22:29Speaker 1: He'd scare him, stretch, get your gavel out, Oh, get
- 22:31Speaker 1: your gavel nick em and or he doesn't want to
- 22:33Speaker 1: go before the old judge. But Ashley and I do
- 22:36Speaker 1: every week. We'll do it next on kJ R.
- 22:38Speaker 3: You may be seated.
- 22:40Speaker 5: I'll learn eventually.
- 22:42Speaker 2: No, I think by you're.
- 22:43Speaker 3: Like you're like Greek wolan.
- 22:45Speaker 5: Oh won't learn.
- 22:46Speaker 6: Ow.
- 22:46Speaker 3: Wow, look at that. That's very comfortable for that as wow.
- 22:51Speaker 2: You know she's an emotional person.
- 22:52Speaker 4: I am.
- 22:53Speaker 3: Yeah, she's only twenty four.
- 22:55Speaker 4: Who knows if I can control anything.
- 23:00Speaker 2: By the way, your job, you are a professional, impartial judge.
- 23:04Speaker 2: And yet is that a Sea Haawk jersey underneath your
- 23:08Speaker 2: room there?
- 23:11Speaker 5: Donald Jersey over there?
- 23:13Speaker 3: Hey, I'm I'm rocking for this week. Maybe the old
- 23:17Speaker 3: judge would Yeah, the old judges he can be swayed.
- 23:24Speaker 5: Excellent.
- 23:25Speaker 2: All right, Well, this is how the old judge works.
- 23:27Speaker 2: I'm going to bring up a few different topics. Ashley
- 23:29Speaker 2: and I are going to discuss them. Once the old
- 23:31Speaker 2: judge has heard enough, he's going to pound his gap.
- 23:35Speaker 2: He will weigh in Ashley and I will zip our lips.
- 23:38Speaker 2: And then whatever the old judge says, it goes law.
- 23:43Speaker 2: All right, put into law, ratified sure by fifty different states. Sure?
- 23:48Speaker 2: All right, Well let's get it going. Number one of
- 23:51Speaker 2: all the Seahawks on the roster, I'm most happiest for
- 23:55Speaker 2: Sam Darnold to be reaching the Super Bowl.
- 23:59Speaker 4: I am very happy for Sam Donald to be reaching
- 24:01Speaker 4: the Super Bowl because he has gotten a lot of criticism. Obviously,
- 24:05Speaker 4: We've talked about that all season long, and I think
- 24:07Speaker 4: a lot of it is unwarranted. But no, I am
- 24:10Speaker 4: not most happy for Sam Donald. I'm very happy for
- 24:13Speaker 4: Leonard Williams, DeMarcus Lawrence, some of the older guys that
- 24:20Speaker 4: have really put in the time and effort and energy
- 24:23Speaker 4: and found their place coming here.
- 24:26Speaker 5: Those are the guys I'm really happy for.
- 24:27Speaker 2: I thought of DeMarcus Lawrence too, like what a jump
- 24:31Speaker 2: Ernest Jones from the Dallas Cowboys to roll the dice
- 24:35Speaker 2: on Seattle, move all the way up to the Pacific Northwest,
- 24:39Speaker 2: kind of start his entire time here by throwing the
- 24:42Speaker 2: Cowboys under the bus, and and now all of that
- 24:46Speaker 2: is paid off. But I do think it's Jaron reed
- 24:49Speaker 2: Man just been here for a while, decided to come
- 24:52Speaker 2: back to finish something he didn't started the tears rolling
- 24:55Speaker 2: down his face Sunday. It just worked for me. I
- 24:57Speaker 2: think I'm most happy for Jared.
- 24:59Speaker 3: Ye Al Gavel. You guys, you're overthinking it, okay. I mean,
- 25:05Speaker 3: if there's Ernest Jones, I would maybe say could be
- 25:09Speaker 3: on the list and Cooper Cupp, especially after you had
- 25:12Speaker 3: to win the Super Bowl of the NFC and they
- 25:15Speaker 3: were castaways. So like the yeah, that's that's true. And
- 25:21Speaker 3: and yet to me, it's you're overthinking of it's anything
- 25:24Speaker 3: other than the guy that could be the first Ginger
- 25:27Speaker 3: to ever leave a team, a guy that has been
- 25:31Speaker 3: shunned ever since the unfortunate effects of being drafted by
- 25:35Speaker 3: the New York Jets that ortunate, and then to overcome
- 25:39Speaker 3: that through carrying clipboards and playing behind mister irrelevant and
- 25:43Speaker 3: then having to go and wait for somebody to be hurt.
- 25:46Speaker 3: And then he does and takes that and ends up
- 25:49Speaker 3: leading the Minnesota Vikings to where they went last year,
- 25:52Speaker 3: only to fall on his face to some extent in
- 25:55Speaker 3: the first playoff game. Then he gets a job here.
- 25:58Speaker 3: You got people saying you just made a mistake. That
- 26:01Speaker 3: is not an upgrade over over Geno Smith, and he
- 26:05Speaker 3: proves everybody wrong. Even after going fourteen and three and
- 26:11Speaker 3: gets into the playoffs as a number one seed, he
- 26:13Speaker 3: still has doubters. He has people saying that they would
- 26:15Speaker 3: bet that he had two or more interceptions in the
- 26:17Speaker 3: last game. That's the bet that they would make for
- 26:20Speaker 3: him to overcome all of that because it's like he
- 26:22Speaker 3: hears it, but he can't care. You can't care. You
- 26:25Speaker 3: go out and you fight with your your brothers, and
- 26:27Speaker 3: you see what comes out at the end of the game.
- 26:29Speaker 3: I think it's the redemption story of it is a
- 26:32Speaker 3: thirty for thirty at some point later on down the road.
- 26:35Speaker 3: And I don't think it's I don't think it's anybody else. Jack.
- 26:38Speaker 5: Pretty good call there, Judge.
- 26:40Speaker 3: Thanks you guys actually agreed, all right.
- 26:42Speaker 2: Next one, we just watched Matthew Stafford play his final
- 26:46Speaker 2: NFL game.
- 26:48Speaker 5: Yeah, I think we did.
- 26:50Speaker 4: I mean I think I think he seems to be
- 26:53Speaker 4: one of those athletes that really thinks about where he's
- 26:58Speaker 4: at in life. And he started the season off of
- 27:02Speaker 4: back is shoes. No one thought he was going to
- 27:03Speaker 4: be able to play. He came out, had an MVP
- 27:05Speaker 4: type season. He has a chance to go out on top. No,
- 27:08Speaker 4: they didn't win the Super Bowl, but they got to
- 27:09Speaker 4: the NFC Championship. He's most likely going to be the MVP.
- 27:13Speaker 4: He really values his time with his family, and I
- 27:17Speaker 4: just I would think that he would be the kind
- 27:20Speaker 4: of person to say I don't want to deal with
- 27:23Speaker 4: more injuries I don't want any time to take away
- 27:25Speaker 4: from my family.
- 27:25Speaker 5: I'm done.
- 27:26Speaker 2: I can't imagine that he's walking away after this. I mean,
- 27:29Speaker 2: he's the best quarterback in the National Football League right now.
- 27:32Speaker 2: He's at the top of his game. I mean, when
- 27:34Speaker 2: John Elway walked away, that was stunning, but that was
- 27:38Speaker 2: a starting his decline. I don't want to be anything
- 27:42Speaker 2: less than good quarterback. It wasn't even the bestket player
- 27:45Speaker 2: on his team anymore because Terrell Davis had taken him
- 27:48Speaker 2: over in those last two years. And I get to
- 27:50Speaker 2: go out as a champion. I mean, that was like
- 27:53Speaker 2: a perfect walk off into the sunset John Elway moment
- 27:57Speaker 2: to be at your very best regard wardless of your
- 28:00Speaker 2: age and having lost a tough game to close out
- 28:04Speaker 2: your season. I just can't imagine he doesn't have a
- 28:08Speaker 2: roaring fire still going to come back and play more football.
- 28:11Speaker 3: Gavel, Gavel Gavel. I don't think there's any chance. I
- 28:15Speaker 3: mean there's a chance because of his health and we
- 28:17Speaker 3: don't know for sure how he's feeling at this point
- 28:19Speaker 3: in the season. The fact that he's coming in after
- 28:22Speaker 3: the length that he's been in the NFL with injuries
- 28:25Speaker 3: that are not going to go away right that if
- 28:27Speaker 3: you're coming in to the from the offseason hindered by
- 28:31Speaker 3: back pain to where you're like, we're not gonna play
- 28:35Speaker 3: him in anything in the preseason. He's not gonna do
- 28:37Speaker 3: anything now days, it's really you don't even have to
- 28:38Speaker 3: be an old quarterback. They're just not going to play
- 28:40Speaker 3: in the preseason period. But for him, we know there
- 28:43Speaker 3: was a reason behind it, and then you go through
- 28:45Speaker 3: the beating that you're going to take throughout a season
- 28:48Speaker 3: and you find yourself right there. I mean, they're arguably
- 28:51Speaker 3: the best team in football with the Seahawks, I think
- 28:55Speaker 3: I don't think it's the same. I don't think there's
- 28:57Speaker 3: a ride off into the sunset right now. To me,
- 28:59Speaker 3: it wouldn't be riding off into the sunset. He would
- 29:01Speaker 3: be able to cope with it and deal with it
- 29:03Speaker 3: in time. But I think he'd be walking away from
- 29:05Speaker 3: a team that he feels is capable of winning a
- 29:08Speaker 3: Super Bowl. John Elway rode off into the sunset. Like
- 29:10Speaker 3: you said, he was already declining the team had been
- 29:15Speaker 3: He was good enough with Terrell Davis, with the way
- 29:19Speaker 3: in which the team was set up around him, he
- 29:21Speaker 3: became basically a game manager that could win a game
- 29:24Speaker 3: for you if you needed it. But he wasn't the
- 29:27Speaker 3: same John Elway wasn't capable of running the same way.
- 29:29Speaker 3: And he wins back to back Super Bowls. That is
- 29:33Speaker 3: going out on top. I think Matthew Stafford is probably thinking,
- 29:36Speaker 3: all right, we got really close and we let it
- 29:38Speaker 3: slip slip away. I think he wants to come back.
- 29:42Speaker 3: The idea of winning a Super Bowl and leaving on
- 29:44Speaker 3: that would be I think what is his goal would be?
- 29:47Speaker 2: All right, last one for the old judge. If something
- 29:50Speaker 2: happens at the kJ Rhouse in Santa Clara, Softy will
- 29:54Speaker 2: be the most likely to get arrested and Dick Fane
- 29:58Speaker 2: will be the most likely to call the ops.
- 30:01Speaker 4: Oh gosh, okay, we're gonna say something happens at the
- 30:04Speaker 4: kJ rows SAFTI will be the most likely to be
- 30:06Speaker 4: the instigator.
- 30:08Speaker 2: Well, same thing.
- 30:08Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know that it would be Softie's fault.
- 30:12Speaker 4: I do think he would be the least likely to
- 30:15Speaker 4: control himself, and Dick Fane would definitely call the cops.
- 30:21Speaker 3: Gravel gravel gall, Yes, I'll just the Dick Vane being
- 30:27Speaker 3: the cop caller for sure, Yeah, for yes, sure, we
- 30:33Speaker 3: might all have him. He might call the cops on
- 30:35Speaker 3: all of us.
- 30:36Speaker 5: You might call them when you guys get there.
- 30:37Speaker 2: Yeah, it's true.
- 30:38Speaker 3: He could like I wanted that room cops nine one one, Uh.
- 30:45Speaker 2: You eat my bagel, I'll show you.
- 30:48Speaker 3: Yeah, who might do something that's arrestworthy. Mark James probably
- 30:54Speaker 3: will do something that's arrestworthy. Let's be real now, whether
- 30:57Speaker 3: or not Dick Vane season calls the cops, that'll be
- 31:00Speaker 3: the difference.
- 31:00Speaker 2: Oh he'll call.
- 31:01Speaker 3: Yeah, soft Deal'll do something in the next two weeks.
- 31:04Speaker 3: He's for sure gonna be like we win. I'm streaking
- 31:07Speaker 3: and so yeah, going to jail.
- 31:09Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think that he's like, you know, running
- 31:11Speaker 2: a drug ring outside the It's probably something like that.
- 31:14Speaker 2: He's like streaking. Yeah, he's in the neighborhood.
- 31:16Speaker 3: I'll put my bare butt on the middle of that
- 31:20Speaker 3: Santa Clara Field Niner fans and Dick fannaback, don't you
- 31:23Speaker 3: dare do it? And then second his pants come down
- 31:26Speaker 3: nine to one one?
- 31:28Speaker 2: God for sure, Yes, officers, Yeah, Softy just put his
- 31:33Speaker 2: butt on my snacks.
- 31:36Speaker 5: He would probably do that.
- 31:38Speaker 3: Dick Fane will write his name on groceries in the fridge.
- 31:41Speaker 8: Oh yeah, so that will happen to all right, one
- 31:44Speaker 8: last thing next on Sports Radio ninety three point three
- 31:46Speaker 8: kJ r f M.
- 31:57Speaker 2: All right, but I'll segment up the radio show here
- 31:59Speaker 2: on this Tuesday. We got one last thing to go.
- 32:02Speaker 2: What do you got, Buckey?
- 32:04Speaker 3: Oh, we were talking about Stafford possibly being done, and
- 32:07Speaker 3: then it led into l Way and and you know
- 32:11Speaker 3: how he won a Super Bowl two and then rode
- 32:14Speaker 3: off and in the sunset, and I remember that. That
- 32:17Speaker 3: was awesome. Remember that?
- 32:19Speaker 5: Oh that's what that was.
- 32:20Speaker 3: It was Remember that? Remember that one time?
- 32:23Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 32:23Speaker 5: I do remember. My dad was very happy.
- 32:25Speaker 2: I kind of brought it up. Yeah, yeah, that was awesome.
- 32:29Speaker 3: Oh man, that was nineteen ninety seven, ninety eight. Boy,
- 32:32Speaker 3: that was really awesome.
- 32:34Speaker 2: I don't I think you're rubbing it in coach Holmgrean's face, right.
- 32:37Speaker 3: No, no, no, you're doing I love Coachman. You know,
- 32:40Speaker 3: yesterday was the twenty ninth anniversary of win Holmgren and
- 32:44Speaker 3: Farv won the Super Bowl. Yeah, and you know that
- 32:46Speaker 3: that was awesome.
- 32:48Speaker 2: That was awesome. Uh and you know there was a
- 32:50Speaker 2: feeling like they were gonna win a lot more and
- 32:52Speaker 2: then coaches even gone out and said, like, I don't
- 32:56Speaker 2: think we were his focused for the Super Bowl, just
- 32:59Speaker 2: thought we were going to win that. I felt that
- 33:01Speaker 2: the team felt they were just gonna win it, and
- 33:03Speaker 2: they didn't. Seattle has a similar story here. You know,
- 33:06Speaker 2: I think that everybody just kind of assumed that they
- 33:10Speaker 2: were getting ready to win multiple Super Bowls. So you
- 33:12Speaker 2: know what, brag on it. You got back to back
- 33:15Speaker 2: with John Elway. I mean, that's not an easy thing
- 33:17Speaker 2: to do. It feels like it was one of the
- 33:19Speaker 2: most time. Look at the Eagles. They were a disaster
- 33:21Speaker 2: this year. I mean, sure they won games, but that
- 33:24Speaker 2: was a broken outfit from the beginning of the year
- 33:27Speaker 2: to the end of the year. They were just like
- 33:30Speaker 2: good attitudes away from possibly repeating as champions, and they wouldn't.
- 33:34Speaker 2: They refuse to get on the same page.
- 33:36Speaker 6: That's it.
- 33:36Speaker 2: That's that's terrible.
- 33:38Speaker 3: Well, I think that's that's a good lesson to be
- 33:41Speaker 3: learned and a good thing to think about for the
- 33:44Speaker 3: Seahawks is you know, you it's difficult to win fourteen
- 33:48Speaker 3: games in an NFL season. It's difficult to get that
- 33:50Speaker 3: number one seed, especially now there's only one in each side.
- 33:52Speaker 3: It's difficult to run the gauntlet, whether you're home or not.
- 33:56Speaker 3: And to get to this point, you don't want to
- 33:57Speaker 3: let these slip away. I mean, I think there's a
- 33:59Speaker 3: lot of people out there that are former NFL players
- 34:01Speaker 3: that maybe got one opportunity and maybe thought, oh, we're
- 34:05Speaker 3: on the brink of something great. We're gonna we're gonna
- 34:07Speaker 3: be back here next year and for the next five years.
- 34:09Speaker 3: And it's difficult to keep that same team together because
- 34:12Speaker 3: you've got good teams and all of a sudden you
- 34:14Speaker 3: got people that are wanting to get paid more. And
- 34:15Speaker 3: next thing, you know, you got to start picking and
- 34:17Speaker 3: choose and I'll keep that guy, but that guy has
- 34:19Speaker 3: to go, and it's hard to keep that whole thing going. Uh,
- 34:22Speaker 3: So you know, seize the moment, Seahawks, seize the moment.
- 34:25Speaker 3: You're right now, second year of Mike McDonald. I think
- 34:28Speaker 3: this is the you know, you're going up against a
- 34:30Speaker 3: team that I don't think is a juggernaut. You should
- 34:32Speaker 3: beat them if you go play your game, but don't
- 34:34Speaker 3: let it slip, don't get over over confident.
- 34:36Speaker 2: Yeah, pettiness doesn't get in the way of the first
- 34:39Speaker 2: Super Bowl, So you know, Yeah, so that's what I
- 34:41Speaker 2: feel good about But boy is sure does get getting
- 34:44Speaker 2: the way of the second try.
- 34:45Speaker 4: Yeah, really does Ken, that's for surely they're.
- 34:48Speaker 2: Not saying Jalen Hurts has been the problem the whole time,
- 34:51Speaker 2: Like half the locker room says Jalen Hurts, who looks
- 34:54Speaker 2: like the most professional guy to me right in the league,
- 34:57Speaker 2: super humble.
- 34:57Speaker 4: We've been hearing about it is that it's up until
- 34:59Speaker 4: aj Brown has been the problem until all of a
- 35:02Speaker 4: sudden it's like, no, wait a minute, he wasn't.
- 35:04Speaker 2: Yeah, we're starting to hear the grumblings that really Jalen
- 35:06Speaker 2: Hurts was the guy that was divided in the locker room.
- 35:09Speaker 2: So I mean, I don't know. All right, Well, we
- 35:12Speaker 2: don't have to worry about that DLL next year hopefully.
- 35:14Speaker 2: All right, Ashley, what do you got for one last thing?
- 35:16Speaker 4: Just our conversation about Rik will and clearly sparked a
- 35:19Speaker 4: lot I wanted to Koma Dodge texts. Oh yeah, we
- 35:22Speaker 4: got a lot of texts, a lot of people. I mean,
- 35:24Speaker 4: I think, being harsher than even I was where I said,
- 35:27Speaker 4: you know, I think one that was his fault. I
- 35:29Speaker 4: don't think it was the responsibility of the ref, Nor
- 35:32Speaker 4: do I think that was a bad call. I'm not
- 35:34Speaker 4: mad about it either way. We have people who say
- 35:37Speaker 4: that he should be benched because they don't trust him
- 35:39Speaker 4: in the super Bowl. I do not agree with that.
- 35:42Speaker 4: I do not think he should be benched. I think
- 35:43Speaker 4: he should obviously be on a short leash. If he
- 35:45Speaker 4: even does even one remote extra thing of taunting, you
- 35:49Speaker 4: grab him, you talk to him, and you say Nope,
- 35:52Speaker 4: not happening, or you will be benched. I mean, you've
- 35:55Speaker 4: got to be on high alert because he is emotional.
- 35:58Speaker 4: But I think that's that's quite extreme to say he
- 36:01Speaker 4: should be benched for the next game.
- 36:02Speaker 2: That seems a little too extreme for me as well.
- 36:06Speaker 2: And I also though, I can't defend what you said,
- 36:09Speaker 2: because I mean, he didn't. He didn't act like that
- 36:11Speaker 2: the whole game. Like it's that one time. I just
- 36:15Speaker 2: got reprimanded at my home, uh for not you know,
- 36:18Speaker 2: because we got the tool foster dogs and we didn't
- 36:22Speaker 2: I didn't put my cords up. Oh they chewed them. No,
- 36:26Speaker 2: they didn't chew them. But they never come into that area,
- 36:29Speaker 2: so I never think. And but then you have to
- 36:33Speaker 2: re remind it only takes one time, right, like zat
- 36:35Speaker 2: the little beast.
- 36:36Speaker 5: That's true.
- 36:36Speaker 4: Uh and so oh you're saying so yeah about about
- 36:40Speaker 4: having him on a short leash and so yeah.
- 36:42Speaker 2: So it if he commits that penalty at the wrong time,
- 36:46Speaker 2: it ruins the season, could screw so he could be
- 36:49Speaker 2: on his best behavior all game long. But if he
- 36:51Speaker 2: makes the one play, yeah, and then loses his mind again.
- 36:57Speaker 5: Yeah, they trust him.
- 36:59Speaker 2: I mean to me, you just got to keep riding it.
- 37:02Speaker 2: I don't think that you abandoned it at this point.
- 37:04Speaker 2: But boy, if I'm Mike McDonald or if I'm adding Dart,
- 37:11Speaker 2: I'm having a really hard to heart, like you're not
- 37:14Speaker 2: going to do this to us? Yeah, because I don't
- 37:17Speaker 2: think somebody's done that. Nick Eamon Warry might have been
- 37:20Speaker 2: the first guy.
- 37:21Speaker 5: I think his whole defense should have to talk with him.
- 37:23Speaker 4: I think it means more, even coming from your teammates,
- 37:25Speaker 4: to know that you'd be disappointing them.
- 37:27Speaker 2: That's where That's where I come from. All right, I'm
- 37:30Speaker 2: gonna close. I'm gonna close Super Bowl related as well.
- 37:34Speaker 2: I'm kind of like I can't wait to get to
- 37:36Speaker 2: this topic because I got a sneaky little suspicion. So
- 37:39Speaker 2: I'm just gonna announce it now for anybody else?
- 37:41Speaker 3: Does it?
- 37:42Speaker 2: Super Bowl MVP.
- 37:45Speaker 3: Rashid Shaheed, Well, I love that possibility.
- 37:49Speaker 2: I think a big long touchdown catch and a return.
- 37:54Speaker 2: I don't know if it's kick or punt. Can't see
- 37:56Speaker 2: in the crystal ball, but I think he's gonna give
- 37:59Speaker 2: us one of each two big plays. And Rashid Shaheed
- 38:03Speaker 2: at plus five thousand, your Super Bowl MB we should
- 38:08Speaker 2: head up to to Layalp.
- 38:09Speaker 3: I think it might throw that down. Yeah, a couple
- 38:12Speaker 3: of ducats on that, and then you can take me out,
- 38:14Speaker 3: take us out to dinner with.
- 38:15Speaker 5: Your winning I live closer to Talp.
- 38:16Speaker 4: I might beat you to it so that the odds
- 38:18Speaker 4: are lower by the time you get there.
- 38:20Speaker 2: Jsins Well, by the way, plus six hundred, I think
- 38:23Speaker 2: that's a phenomenal bed right there. Like Drake May and
- 38:26Speaker 2: Sam Donald are the favorites the quarterbacks, but js N
- 38:30Speaker 2: is the third favorite at plus six hundred.
- 38:32Speaker 3: I could definitely envision a huge game from him.
- 38:36Speaker 2: Yeah, fun things we get to talk about.
- 38:38Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with the ginger Donald Donald.
- 38:41Speaker 2: Yeah, even though it's just plus one hundred, okay, okay,
- 38:45Speaker 2: probably putting.
- 38:45Speaker 3: A million dollars on it.
- 38:46Speaker 5: JSN is a pretty safety ginger.
- 38:48Speaker 2: Well, if you put a million dollars on it, you
- 38:50Speaker 2: win a million dollars. There you go. Congratulations, nice working
- 38:54Speaker 2: with you guys. Yeah, you will be rooting against JSN
- 38:59Speaker 2: and rashidja He all game long. All right, that'll do
- 39:02Speaker 2: it for us. Thank you very much for joining us.
- 39:04Speaker 2: We appreciate. We're back tomorrow at six am. We'll be
- 39:07Speaker 2: just eleven sleeps away from the super Bowl. Then coming
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