Latest / The Late Debate / The Late Debate | 25 March
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Wait wait, welcome the late base.
- 0:07Speaker 2: Well, thanks for joining us. It's great to have your company.
- 0:09Speaker 2: I'm James Macpherson with Caleb Bond and Dnika di Georgie.
- 0:12Speaker 1: I'll tell you what.
- 0:12Speaker 2: It was a beautiful day in Sydney today. How do
- 0:15Speaker 2: you spend at Caleb just out.
- 0:17Speaker 3: And about went for a walk. I believe you went
- 0:19Speaker 3: for a walk quite early this morning, Joe.
- 0:21Speaker 1: I did.
- 0:22Speaker 2: I am not a morning person, but at six thirty am, sitting.
- 0:25Speaker 1: On bell Morrale Beach watching the sun come up, I.
- 0:27Speaker 4: Was wondering why you're a bit disorientated this evening. You've
- 0:29Speaker 4: had no sleep. I was wondering that I've been talking
- 0:32Speaker 4: to James all nights, like talking to a brick wall.
- 0:34Speaker 5: Listen.
- 0:35Speaker 6: That's the problem, you know, in through one ear out the.
- 0:38Speaker 5: Other come on years is from his wife. He doesn't
- 0:40Speaker 5: need you.
- 0:41Speaker 2: All right, let's get into the show. Here's what's coming
- 0:44Speaker 2: up tonight. Should the AFL be financially responsible for players
- 0:48Speaker 2: who experienced life altering consequences from serious head knocks? Don't
- 0:52Speaker 2: players realize it's a contact sport. The gays and lesbians
- 0:56Speaker 2: really need their own housing developments. They're getting one in Manchester,
- 1:00Speaker 2: and it's likely to be the first of many.
- 1:03Speaker 1: And is there any truth to lawn mowing theory.
- 1:06Speaker 2: It's the idea that when one person in the street
- 1:09Speaker 2: mows their lawn, everyone else typically follows within just a
- 1:12Speaker 2: few hours.
- 1:13Speaker 1: We'll find out if.
- 1:14Speaker 2: That's true in a moment, but first, a new poll
- 1:17Speaker 2: has shown that young women are far more likely Danika
- 1:20Speaker 2: to be raging lefties than young men, which is awkward
- 1:23Speaker 2: because for the longest time we've been told it's young
- 1:26Speaker 2: men with their toxic masculinity who've been causing all societies problems.
- 1:31Speaker 2: Now we'll look at the far left views entertained by
- 1:34Speaker 2: young women in a moment, bring a helmet, But first
- 1:37Speaker 2: the truly revealing detail. It turns out young men under
- 1:40Speaker 2: the age of thirty are far more tolerant of difference
- 1:43Speaker 2: than young women. When it came to dating and relationships.
- 1:47Speaker 2: Fifty eight percent of young women said they'd prefer to
- 1:49Speaker 2: date someone with similar political or social views. Translation, when
- 1:54Speaker 2: it comes to young women, love maybe blind, but it
- 1:56Speaker 2: still checks your voting record.
- 1:57Speaker 1: But only thirty one.
- 1:58Speaker 2: Percent of men said views would put them off. Asked
- 2:02Speaker 2: if they'd lose interest in someone they liked if they
- 2:04Speaker 2: found out that person had significantly different views. Fifty three
- 2:08Speaker 2: percent of Juliette said Romeo would be shown the door,
- 2:11Speaker 2: but only thirty percent of young men said they ditch
- 2:14Speaker 2: a girl based on her different political views. Or what
- 2:17Speaker 2: about this one, Caleb, Thirty four percent of young women
- 2:20Speaker 2: said they'd lose interest in someone if they found out
- 2:23Speaker 2: that person followed social media figures with different views to
- 2:27Speaker 2: their own. Only eight percent of young men said that
- 2:29Speaker 2: would matter to them in a partner.
- 2:31Speaker 5: So what we're finding out here is that men buying larger,
- 2:34Speaker 5: more tolerant than women.
- 2:36Speaker 1: That seems to be the case.
- 2:38Speaker 3: You know, because we've heard about all there is a
- 2:39Speaker 3: man drought. Women can't find partners.
- 2:42Speaker 5: Where have all the men gone?
- 2:45Speaker 3: Clearly they're still there. It's just that women have gone
- 2:48Speaker 3: way off to the left. Men have veered a little
- 2:51Speaker 3: bit to the right. And we'll go through some of
- 2:54Speaker 3: the other details shortly, but it bears out that men,
- 2:59Speaker 3: more so than women, believe in traditional gender roles, and
- 3:03Speaker 3: younger men you agree with things like there should be
- 3:06Speaker 3: more freedom in the market and that government intervention is
- 3:09Speaker 3: a bad thing, whereas women are more likely to think
- 3:11Speaker 3: it's a good thing. On and on it goes these
- 3:13Speaker 3: divides that are clearly there, But those numbers very clearly
- 3:17Speaker 3: show that men are willing to be far more forgiving.
- 3:21Speaker 3: Young men will be far more forgiving when it comes
- 3:24Speaker 3: to politics in the realm of dating, and women are
- 3:27Speaker 3: simply saying, well, if you don't have the same politics
- 3:29Speaker 3: as me, go away, it ain't happening. I don't think
- 3:32Speaker 3: this is necessarily specific to women. I don't think it's
- 3:36Speaker 3: something that is inherent to women. I think it's something
- 3:38Speaker 3: that is generally inherent to the left. Yes, and I
- 3:42Speaker 3: have as someone who has dated left wing women and
- 3:46Speaker 3: have introduced them not successfully good well, it depends what
- 3:50Speaker 3: you call success eight a three and a half year relationship,
- 3:52Speaker 3: But having introduced them to friends of mine on the right,
- 3:58Speaker 3: the refrain is often, gee, I can't believe how lovely
- 4:02Speaker 3: and friendly everyone is, whereas I don't get the same
- 4:05Speaker 3: treatment from the left. Generally, people on the right are
- 4:09Speaker 3: far more willing to listen to others on the other
- 4:11Speaker 3: side of politics, and with young women now going radically
- 4:15Speaker 3: off to the left, they just won't have a bar
- 4:17Speaker 3: of men. It would seem well, good luck is all
- 4:20Speaker 3: I can say. You think you can have it all,
- 4:22Speaker 3: You're not going to get it all if that's how
- 4:24Speaker 3: you run your life. We should all be more tolerant,
- 4:27Speaker 3: but seemingly young women in particular are not.
- 4:30Speaker 5: Well.
- 4:30Speaker 4: See, here's the thing, right, if the shoe was on
- 4:32Speaker 4: the other foot. For me personally, I couldn't date a
- 4:35Speaker 4: raging lefty.
- 4:36Speaker 6: I couldn't date.
- 4:37Speaker 4: A bloke, you know, if he's out there with his kefieir,
- 4:41Speaker 4: marching up and down with it, you know, from the
- 4:43Speaker 4: river to the sea every weekend.
- 4:45Speaker 6: Forget it.
- 4:46Speaker 4: He's not for Dadakai, Georgia.
- 4:50Speaker 6: He would have absolutely nothing in common.
- 4:53Speaker 4: And not that I think it is a prerequisite, but
- 4:55Speaker 4: I personally enjoy to be able to chat to somebody
- 4:58Speaker 4: on the same side of politics as me, because I
- 5:01Speaker 4: feel like we have more a lot.
- 5:02Speaker 6: More in common.
- 5:03Speaker 4: Like there are some men out there who if I
- 5:05Speaker 4: said to them, I really like Donald Trump, they said,
- 5:07Speaker 4: oh God, she's a nutter. She's an absolute nutcase, which
- 5:12Speaker 4: is I'd like to think that's not the case.
- 5:14Speaker 3: You mentioned Donald Trump. We look at this number. There's
- 5:18Speaker 3: a number of things. This is fresh water polling that
- 5:20Speaker 3: was done for the News Care papers. But they asked
- 5:22Speaker 3: about parties and politicians and on the topic of Donald Trump,
- 5:28Speaker 3: sixty one percent of women said they had a negative
- 5:32Speaker 3: view of Donald Trump versus fifteen percent of I think
- 5:35Speaker 3: we've got this graphic here.
- 5:37Speaker 5: You can see it at the bottom.
- 5:38Speaker 3: Right at the bottom there, that's the favorability rating for
- 5:41Speaker 3: Donald Trump for young women sixty one minus sixty one
- 5:45Speaker 3: versus minus fifteen for Donald Trump. I mean, that's an
- 5:48Speaker 3: example of just how radically different the views of young
- 5:51Speaker 3: men and women are.
- 5:51Speaker 5: Sorry for interrupting, No, No, that's right.
- 5:53Speaker 6: Well, I'll just pick up on that point.
- 5:55Speaker 4: Because this poll said that men are more likely to
- 5:57Speaker 4: vote conservative than what women are. Women are more more
- 6:00Speaker 4: likely to vote for labor and for the Greens parties,
- 6:03Speaker 4: and you mentioned Donald Trump. We actually saw this in
- 6:05Speaker 4: the lead up to the US election, where the majority
- 6:08Speaker 4: of men were saying that they would vote for Donald Trump.
- 6:10Speaker 4: And I think that there are some reasons why this
- 6:12Speaker 4: is being replicated over in the US. Donald Trump was
- 6:15Speaker 4: very much so putting forward an America First policy and
- 6:18Speaker 4: wanting to put people into jobs. And you know, Caleb,
- 6:21Speaker 4: you spoke about gender roles before. I think that it
- 6:24Speaker 4: is very important and I completely agree with this for men.
- 6:27Speaker 6: To want to work men actually do want.
- 6:29Speaker 4: To work because they want to be able to provide
- 6:31Speaker 4: for their families. You know, obviously there are a lot
- 6:33Speaker 4: of high flying women out there, but I do think
- 6:35Speaker 4: a lot of men want to be able to provide
- 6:39Speaker 4: as best they can. So that's one reason why I think.
- 6:42Speaker 4: The other thing is is it also said that gen
- 6:44Speaker 4: Z women are more radically left wing, and I think
- 6:47Speaker 4: that there are a couple of reasons for this. I
- 6:49Speaker 4: think that it comes down to a lot of gender issues,
- 6:52Speaker 4: which I think that women typically think the left understand
- 6:55Speaker 4: abortion rights. If you're on the conservative side of the
- 6:59Speaker 4: political realm, you're probably not more likely to support abortion.
- 7:04Speaker 4: But it's also this notion of feminism which has absolutely
- 7:07Speaker 4: gone out of control.
- 7:08Speaker 6: The left love to trot out.
- 7:10Speaker 4: The gender the feminism lines, and that's why I think
- 7:13Speaker 4: that more women are more likely to be very radical
- 7:15Speaker 4: on the left compared to the conservative side of politics.
- 7:18Speaker 3: I think a lot of them's also down to the
- 7:21Speaker 3: proliferation of university education, because women are far more likely
- 7:27Speaker 3: than men now to go after university. They do better
- 7:29Speaker 3: at high school, they're more likely to get a university degree,
- 7:33Speaker 3: and you end up in university where you get your
- 7:35Speaker 3: brain infiltrated with all this left wing garbage, and you
- 7:39Speaker 3: come out of the other side of the system exactly
- 7:41Speaker 3: as they want you to be. And men have seemingly
- 7:44Speaker 3: turned around and are now saying, well, I'd kind of
- 7:47Speaker 3: like to go somewhere back to the way things used
- 7:50Speaker 3: to be. There's other polling has been done actually to
- 7:52Speaker 3: show that young men are far more sensitive than their
- 7:55Speaker 3: fathers and their grandfathers before than they want to be,
- 7:57Speaker 3: far more involved in family life, etc. But they do
- 7:59Speaker 3: have a more traditional view of life than perhaps previous generations.
- 8:04Speaker 5: I am curious though, Janiki.
- 8:05Speaker 3: I mean you talked about the cafe wearing fellow goes
- 8:08Speaker 3: to the demonstration on the weekend. Right, Let's say you're
- 8:11Speaker 3: not going to go out with him. But if you
- 8:12Speaker 3: went out with a fella and he told you on
- 8:14Speaker 3: the first date that he was a member of the
- 8:16Speaker 3: labor part, would there be a second date? M assuming
- 8:21Speaker 3: everything else went well, Yes, of course, Okay.
- 8:24Speaker 6: Yeah, there would be a second date.
- 8:26Speaker 5: Yeah, So you are open. You are open.
- 8:28Speaker 4: I am open, But it depends on how radical the
- 8:31Speaker 4: views are.
- 8:32Speaker 6: You know what I mean?
- 8:33Speaker 3: The extraordinary thing is because I prefer to date people
- 8:36Speaker 3: with similar political or social views to mind, it's like
- 8:39Speaker 3: double the number of women who say yes as opposed
- 8:42Speaker 3: to men. Like the priorities of men and women are
- 8:45Speaker 3: clearly very good at the other.
- 8:46Speaker 1: Can I ask you a question here we go.
- 8:47Speaker 2: I don't want to man explain these things to you, Danika,
- 8:50Speaker 2: so I want you to tell us.
- 8:52Speaker 1: Do you think there's.
- 8:53Speaker 2: Truth to the fact that because women, I think are
- 8:55Speaker 2: typically making a generalization, but typically more empathetic, maybe more compassionate.
- 9:01Speaker 1: Generally, I must agree with it. Aren't empathetic, but no, no, no,
- 9:04Speaker 1: I would agree.
- 9:05Speaker 2: Women tend to be a little more so do you
- 9:07Speaker 2: think that reflects some of the views? For instance, in
- 9:10Speaker 2: this poll, women were far more likely to say that
- 9:14Speaker 2: government handouts were not a problem, whereas men thought there's
- 9:17Speaker 2: far too many government handouts.
- 9:18Speaker 1: Is that an example of women.
- 9:20Speaker 2: Just having more empathy and compassion, which sometimes tend to
- 9:23Speaker 2: go more easily to the left, because the left do
- 9:27Speaker 2: sell themselves as the parties of compassion and empathy and
- 9:31Speaker 2: we want to help everybody absolutely, whether it works out
- 9:34Speaker 2: that way in practice or not, totally different subjects, but
- 9:37Speaker 2: at the first glance they seem more empathetic.
- 9:39Speaker 4: I absolutely agree, and it's got to do with that
- 9:41Speaker 4: notion of the tolerant left, for sure.
- 9:43Speaker 6: I do think your spot on.
- 9:44Speaker 4: I think that women are generally more empathetic and the
- 9:47Speaker 4: other thing. The other point I would make on this
- 9:50Speaker 4: is that I feel like the results of this survey
- 9:53Speaker 4: show that men do actually feel a little bit singled
- 9:56Speaker 4: out by women. And I think that the Me Too
- 9:59Speaker 4: movement as destroyed, destroyed it for men because I think women,
- 10:04Speaker 4: you know, it even happened here in Australia after the
- 10:09Speaker 4: whole Britney Higgins saga. I think that it's very easy
- 10:12Speaker 4: to point the finger at men and make men out
- 10:15Speaker 4: to be the enemy.
- 10:17Speaker 6: Men are fantastic. I love men, and.
- 10:19Speaker 4: I think that the left have this notion of feminism,
- 10:23Speaker 4: whereas I think that men are genuinely feeling quite singled
- 10:26Speaker 4: out by women, and that was shown in this result
- 10:29Speaker 4: as well.
- 10:29Speaker 3: One of the other numbers is before we move on,
- 10:31Speaker 3: that was quite stark. They're asking about political agenda. Building
- 10:36Speaker 3: more affordable rental housing was a forty two percent favorability
- 10:41Speaker 3: for women versus twenty nine for men. But the one
- 10:44Speaker 3: underneath it, you can see there of introducing a personal
- 10:47Speaker 3: wealth tax twenty four percent favorability versus four percent for men,
- 10:53Speaker 3: and banning negative gearing fourteen percent for women versus three
- 10:57Speaker 3: percent for men. They are very different numbers. And you
- 11:01Speaker 3: mentioned the government handouts as well. We'll show you that one.
- 11:03Speaker 3: It's a nineteen percent favorability on too many people depend
- 11:09Speaker 3: on government handouts. For women, so marginally favorable, but for
- 11:13Speaker 3: men it's forty three percent. More competition leads to better
- 11:17Speaker 3: life outcomes eight percent favorability for women and thirty three
- 11:21Speaker 3: percent for men.
- 11:22Speaker 4: But a man of more competitive well, I know, I know, Well,
- 11:25Speaker 4: we just want the handout.
- 11:26Speaker 2: Before we move on, quick question, do the liberals have
- 11:29Speaker 2: a women problem or is it just that women are
- 11:31Speaker 2: typically left so it's not a problem the liberal parties
- 11:35Speaker 2: specifically have with women. Correct, The liberal have a problem
- 11:38Speaker 2: with lefties as you would expect.
- 11:39Speaker 3: They were exactly and they just happen to be women.
- 11:42Speaker 3: It's not specifically about a gendered thing, it's exactly that's
- 11:46Speaker 3: where things are going these days. Anyway, let's move on
- 11:48Speaker 3: to another important discussion. Of course, you at home would
- 11:51Speaker 3: have either children or grandchildren most likely who play sport,
- 11:56Speaker 3: whether it be for a club on weekend or at school,
- 12:00Speaker 3: and the discussion now is a lot around what sort
- 12:03Speaker 3: of sport do I want my kid to play? Do
- 12:05Speaker 3: I want my kid to be involved in a contact
- 12:06Speaker 3: sport where there could be head knocks? And this is
- 12:09Speaker 3: a fundamental threat to Ozzie rules, which is the sport
- 12:12Speaker 3: of the three of us here tonight, I'd like to
- 12:14Speaker 3: watch or NRL in the Eastern States Rugby League. Parents
- 12:19Speaker 3: are now opting for their kids, by and large, to
- 12:21Speaker 3: play soccer. Soccer is the fastest growing sport in this country,
- 12:25Speaker 3: and that the issue of head knocks is a huge one.
- 12:29Speaker 3: Now there's a class action that's currently building against the AFL,
- 12:33Speaker 3: which is of course the governing body of Ossie rules
- 12:36Speaker 3: in this country, around concussions and head knocks, and today
- 12:40Speaker 3: eight new players have joined that class action. It takes
- 12:44Speaker 3: it now to more than one hundred, or about one
- 12:47Speaker 3: hundred players who have joined this class action basically saying
- 12:50Speaker 3: that the AFL was negligent in allowing head knocks, concussions
- 12:56Speaker 3: whatever to.
- 12:57Speaker 5: Go on in the sport.
- 12:59Speaker 3: He's a small example of the rough and tumble of
- 13:02Speaker 3: AFL that I'm sure many of us are used to.
- 13:05Speaker 1: Didn't need to play on there. He had Robinson right
- 13:07Speaker 1: there with him, and he keeps going.
- 13:12Speaker 4: Hope they had a heart to climb on the crank pastadium.
- 13:16Speaker 2: Robbie's got it, He's got and don't slam tagle face
- 13:20Speaker 2: first by night house and Charlie's not happen.
- 13:23Speaker 3: Now, many people at home watch that and say, yeah,
- 13:26Speaker 3: that's the biff of football. But of course we know
- 13:28Speaker 3: the results now of constant head knocks. We know about CTE,
- 13:32Speaker 3: we know about what happens when you are concussed too much.
- 13:36Speaker 3: But these players are essentially suggesting that the AFL just
- 13:40Speaker 3: let them be concussed, that they should have had better
- 13:44Speaker 3: rules in place and whatever to stop it from happening.
- 13:48Speaker 3: I'm not sure how far you can actually argue that
- 13:51Speaker 3: it's the AFL's fault that people have been concussed and
- 13:54Speaker 3: they've sustained brain damage as a result, And there was
- 13:59Speaker 3: a time where there was basically no awareness of this.
- 14:02Speaker 3: Awareness has absolutely grown in the last decade, and I
- 14:06Speaker 3: think sporting leagues across the board have taken it seriously
- 14:10Speaker 3: and they have instituted concussion rules, They've instituted bands on
- 14:14Speaker 3: players playing in subsequent rounds if they've been concust etc.
- 14:18Speaker 3: I'm not sure that you can argue that you, as
- 14:21Speaker 3: an individual, had no idea, and that if you, as
- 14:23Speaker 3: an individual had no idea, that a league or a
- 14:26Speaker 3: club or whatever did, and that they are somehow responsible
- 14:29Speaker 3: for what has happened after you've been conducted.
- 14:31Speaker 2: But when you decide to become a professional darts player,
- 14:35Speaker 2: you know you're not going to be tackled. When you
- 14:37Speaker 2: decide to become a professional footballer, you know there's a
- 14:40Speaker 2: good chance you're going to get whacked in the head
- 14:42Speaker 2: at some point. So people play these sports knowing what
- 14:44Speaker 2: they're signing up for. Some of these players their careers
- 14:47Speaker 2: go back to the early nineteen eighties, where as you say,
- 14:51Speaker 2: knowledge about concussions and long term consequences was.
- 14:55Speaker 1: Nowhere near what it is today.
- 14:57Speaker 2: In fact, back in the day, players would be not unconscious,
- 15:00Speaker 2: go off, and then they would beg for the coach
- 15:03Speaker 2: to put them back on the field, and everyone would
- 15:06Speaker 2: lionize them and applaud them and say how amazing they
- 15:08Speaker 2: are and hold them up as role models, role models
- 15:11Speaker 2: for continuing to play after being concust Of course, nowadays,
- 15:15Speaker 2: there's no way we would let them back on the field,
- 15:17Speaker 2: which demonstrates the evolving knowledge of these injuries. I agree
- 15:21Speaker 2: with you, we haven't always known the consequences, but as
- 15:25Speaker 2: the AFL have understood, they have changed the rules, they've
- 15:30Speaker 2: changed medical procedures, if they've changed the game itself, it's
- 15:34Speaker 2: starting to resemble netball more than a high contact sport.
- 15:39Speaker 2: I've got to be honest, getting rid of the bounce.
- 15:40Speaker 2: Have you seen the way they do that they start
- 15:42Speaker 2: the game, they throw it up.
- 15:43Speaker 1: It's like basketball.
- 15:45Speaker 2: I think the AFL are increasingly taking steps, and if
- 15:48Speaker 2: this court case succeeds, it'll be millions of dollars. I've
- 15:52Speaker 2: read one report today potentially saying a billion dollars.
- 15:55Speaker 1: Not only will it cost the league.
- 15:57Speaker 2: A fortune, I don't care so much about that, but
- 16:00Speaker 2: it could potentially ruin the game because if it's going
- 16:03Speaker 2: to cost that much money, they will be loathed to
- 16:05Speaker 2: have too much physical contact at all, which is the
- 16:07Speaker 2: beauty of our sport.
- 16:09Speaker 4: I understand that it is a contact sport, and when
- 16:11Speaker 4: you play AFL, when you play elite sport at any level,
- 16:14Speaker 4: you know that there is going to be an element
- 16:17Speaker 4: of contact. But I actually think that as an employer,
- 16:21Speaker 4: you do have a responsibility to look after your employees
- 16:25Speaker 4: in this case, it is the AFL. Last year they
- 16:27Speaker 4: actually did a brain scan of twenty former players and
- 16:30Speaker 4: they found catastrophic injuries, some worse than car crash victims,
- 16:35Speaker 4: others worse than war related blast victims.
- 16:38Speaker 6: That is horrific.
- 16:39Speaker 4: Now, players later on in life are developing traumatic brain
- 16:42Speaker 4: injuries like CTE and dementia, and the argument that they're
- 16:46Speaker 4: saying is is that the AFL should have done more
- 16:48Speaker 4: to have prevented this. Now, the problem is not necessarily
- 16:52Speaker 4: the impact of the concussion, but it's what the AFL
- 16:56Speaker 4: or even the clubs in general do after that moment
- 16:59Speaker 4: of impact. Because a lot of these these players now
- 17:02Speaker 4: who are taking part in this class action, they're saying, well,
- 17:06Speaker 4: the AFL should have done more to make sure that
- 17:08Speaker 4: they did not return to the field, that they had
- 17:10Speaker 4: more time off, that they shouldn't have been going back
- 17:12Speaker 4: so quickly to have played the game.
- 17:14Speaker 6: And that is a problem because for example.
- 17:17Speaker 4: Right if you're in an office and there is water
- 17:20Speaker 4: on the floor and.
- 17:21Speaker 6: You slip over it, then your.
- 17:23Speaker 4: Employer automatically becomes negligent because they have not done they
- 17:27Speaker 4: have not cleaned up that.
- 17:30Speaker 3: But it's right, but to make a fair comparison. You know,
- 17:34Speaker 3: if you play AFL at the risk of concussion, right,
- 17:38Speaker 3: it's just part of the game. So if you know
- 17:41Speaker 3: that there is a certain part of the office where
- 17:43Speaker 3: there is water on the floor, and you've been told
- 17:46Speaker 3: that there is water on the floor, but I'm.
- 17:47Speaker 6: Saying water on the floor.
- 17:50Speaker 5: If you haven't, the concussion is bad.
- 17:54Speaker 4: It doesn't matter. It's it's the aftercare. It's not I'm
- 17:57Speaker 4: not talking about the point of impact. I'm talking about
- 17:59Speaker 4: the aftercare. What have these players, What treatment have these
- 18:02Speaker 4: players been given? How much have they been given the
- 18:05Speaker 4: one hundred percent all clear? What tests have been done?
- 18:08Speaker 4: Because some of them said, some of them said in
- 18:10Speaker 4: previous lawsuits over the last couple of years that the
- 18:15Speaker 4: neglect was the fact that the AFL was not requiring
- 18:18Speaker 4: specific scans in the aftercare. That they should have been
- 18:21Speaker 4: given specific scans to really diagnose what was going on
- 18:25Speaker 4: in their brain, and they did not receive that, and
- 18:27Speaker 4: that was their argument.
- 18:28Speaker 2: They've now introduced all sorts of concussion protocols to make
- 18:31Speaker 2: sure that players don't come back onto the field or
- 18:34Speaker 2: indeed back to the game for sometimes weeks after a concussion.
- 18:38Speaker 1: But in terms of personal responsibility. I follow North Melbourne.
- 18:41Speaker 2: We've got two of our players who wear helmets every
- 18:44Speaker 2: time they play. If players are really concerned about this,
- 18:47Speaker 2: how come most of them aren't wearing helmet.
- 18:49Speaker 4: I'm not suggesting that every player wear a helmet.
- 18:52Speaker 6: I think it's necessary to wear.
- 18:54Speaker 4: I'm talking about and you go in there, I know,
- 18:56Speaker 4: any sort of elite sport. I'm not denying that that
- 18:59Speaker 4: you'd go in knowing that that there is a level
- 19:01Speaker 4: of contact and that there is a level of risk.
- 19:03Speaker 4: But what I'm saying is what is the player management
- 19:06Speaker 4: and what is the player care after the moment of impact?
- 19:09Speaker 4: And the argument that these players are saying is that
- 19:11Speaker 4: they have not received it, And That's what I'm saying.
- 19:13Speaker 4: And later it's not until later in life when they're
- 19:17Speaker 4: dizzy spells, they're getting up, they're fainting, they're not feeling well,
- 19:19Speaker 4: they can't remember things.
- 19:21Speaker 6: Suddenly, they don't know what they're doing, where.
- 19:22Speaker 4: They put their keys, that they've gone, oh crap, it was.
- 19:25Speaker 6: Because of the concussion I had.
- 19:27Speaker 4: I should not have been let on the field as
- 19:29Speaker 4: early as I was.
- 19:30Speaker 2: What I'm saying is, if you want the AFL to
- 19:32Speaker 2: exercise a duty of care. Players also have a duty
- 19:35Speaker 2: of care to themselves, and if this is such a
- 19:38Speaker 2: big issue, I would have expected far more players today
- 19:41Speaker 2: to be wearing helmets, where it's only a couple. Most
- 19:45Speaker 2: teams don't have anyone wearing helmets, so I think there's
- 19:48Speaker 2: personal responsibility it's got to coming into. My prediction is
- 19:51Speaker 2: that the AFL will settle this matter out of court.
- 19:53Speaker 2: They will pay a large sum of money, but without
- 19:56Speaker 2: any liability, and they'll continue to evolve the game to
- 20:00Speaker 2: you try and take the brutality out of it.
- 20:02Speaker 4: Yeah, well look it's going to be interesting. But certainly
- 20:05Speaker 4: there's the lawsuits pretty big. This is not a small lawsuit,
- 20:09Speaker 4: and you're right, James, this could cost billions and billions
- 20:11Speaker 4: of dollars.
- 20:12Speaker 6: Look, let's move on. Now.
- 20:13Speaker 4: What is the old saying, do as I say, but
- 20:16Speaker 4: not as I do, Because it really seems that this
- 20:18Speaker 4: is Labour's motto as they deal with this fuel crisis.
- 20:22Speaker 4: I mean, if you remember, it was only a couple
- 20:23Speaker 4: of weeks ago Chris Bowen said no, no, please, don't panic,
- 20:27Speaker 4: nothing to worry about, and then what he's done a
- 20:30Speaker 4: three sixty pirouette. Now Chris Bowen is actually panicking. Chris
- 20:35Speaker 4: Bowen has now told us, would you believe to travel
- 20:38Speaker 4: less and work from home if you can as to
- 20:41Speaker 4: not have an impact on fuel supplies? But this does
- 20:46Speaker 4: this sound like the old days to you of COVID.
- 20:48Speaker 4: This was him today giving a play by play of
- 20:52Speaker 4: how many bowsers are out of fuel.
- 20:55Speaker 7: New South Wales. There one hundred and eighty seven with
- 20:57Speaker 7: no diesel and thirty two without any stock at all.
- 21:01Speaker 1: That's down nineteen on yesterday.
- 21:03Speaker 7: That's out of equivalent out of a total of twenty
- 21:05Speaker 7: four hundred and seventeen service stations in New South Wales.
- 21:09Speaker 7: Queensland figures remained fifty five with no diesel and thirty
- 21:12Speaker 7: five with no regular unlitded in Victoria one hundred and
- 21:16Speaker 7: thirty four with a lack of one or more grades.
- 21:20Speaker 7: That's down twenty eight on the last report. South Australia
- 21:24Speaker 7: forty nine out of seven hundred. Western Australia remained six.
- 21:30Speaker 4: Move over daily COVID press numbers Now it's fuel numbers.
- 21:33Speaker 6: Would you believe?
- 21:34Speaker 4: But I want to ask you this at home. Do
- 21:36Speaker 4: you think that this is hypocritical or not? So we've
- 21:39Speaker 4: got Chris Bowling out there saying you know, basically shackle
- 21:42Speaker 4: yourself down, don't leave your home, because we don't want
- 21:45Speaker 4: you to use up the fuel supply. But at the
- 21:47Speaker 4: same time, Anthony Alberzi is doing a well wind tour
- 21:51Speaker 4: of Australia. Now he has touched down in five major
- 21:54Speaker 4: cities in the space of ten days, including Friday a
- 21:58Speaker 4: week ago when he flew from Sydney to camp to
- 22:00Speaker 4: watch the rabbit Os versus Roosters at Alliance Stadium. And
- 22:03Speaker 4: you might remember he actually ran onto the pitch there
- 22:05Speaker 4: he is. He may even get a fine for that,
- 22:07Speaker 4: would you believe. Now his total distance covered was roughly
- 22:10Speaker 4: four eight hundred and fifty k's in ten days, requiring
- 22:13Speaker 4: about twenty thousand to twenty five thousand leaders of ful
- 22:17Speaker 4: A few points on this. Firstly, I do agree the
- 22:19Speaker 4: Prime Minister obviously has to travel, he is the Prime Minister.
- 22:23Speaker 6: But it's not a very good look when you've got
- 22:24Speaker 6: Chris Bowen out there saying please don't travel, when labor
- 22:27Speaker 6: are doing the exact opposite.
- 22:29Speaker 4: I mean, Chris Bowen last Friday flew himself up to
- 22:32Speaker 4: Brisbane to attend a cop summit instead of actually going
- 22:35Speaker 4: to a National Cabinet meeting. On the fuel crisis. This
- 22:38Speaker 4: guy's meant to be presiding over this fuel crisis and
- 22:41Speaker 4: he's gallivanting as part of his part time roles as
- 22:44Speaker 4: the cop chairman or whatever the heck he is. And secondly,
- 22:48Speaker 4: Bowen wants people to start working from home. Now, this
- 22:51Speaker 4: is not COVID. Have businesses not suffered enough. They're already
- 22:54Speaker 4: still suffering the side effects of the pandemic.
- 22:57Speaker 6: And Bowen's saying no, just stay from home, work from home. Hello,
- 23:01Speaker 6: why would anyone want to go into business in this
- 23:03Speaker 6: country right now?
- 23:04Speaker 1: I take your point.
- 23:05Speaker 2: It's the Prime minister's job to travel, and so there
- 23:08Speaker 2: you go. But it's also the Prime minister's job to
- 23:10Speaker 2: inspire the public to make sacrifices for the common good,
- 23:13Speaker 2: and to do that by a personal example. For him
- 23:16Speaker 2: to do that much travel in the last ten days,
- 23:19Speaker 2: ostensibly to go to sporting events for a lot of
- 23:22Speaker 2: it is frankly pretty unwise. When you've got your energy
- 23:25Speaker 2: minister saying the sorts of things he's saying, which is
- 23:28Speaker 2: highly inconvenient.
- 23:30Speaker 1: For most of us.
- 23:31Speaker 2: I think the Prime Minister should be setting a better example.
- 23:34Speaker 2: That's not to say he can't travel, but dial it
- 23:36Speaker 2: back a little bit at the time you're telling everybody
- 23:39Speaker 2: else to make sacrifice.
- 23:40Speaker 3: I just find it a bit hard to get upset
- 23:43Speaker 3: about the Prime Minister traveling.
- 23:44Speaker 5: I mean, he's the Prime Minister, for heaven's sake.
- 23:46Speaker 3: Can you know you might be able to work from
- 23:49Speaker 3: home in your your little.
- 23:50Speaker 5: Office job but doing data intry or whatever.
- 23:53Speaker 3: But he's the PM. Of course he's going to travel.
- 23:57Speaker 3: He's going to get on a plane. He's got a plane.
- 24:00Speaker 3: It's part of his deal, and he's got security and
- 24:02Speaker 3: all the other bills and whistles that go with it.
- 24:04Speaker 5: It's just part of being the Prime Minister.
- 24:07Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's more important than the rest
- 24:09Speaker 1: of us.
- 24:09Speaker 3: Well, of course he's more important than the rest of us.
- 24:11Speaker 3: He was elected to do that job. There's no doubt
- 24:14Speaker 3: about that.
- 24:14Speaker 4: Yeah, But don't you think it's a bit hypocritical when
- 24:16Speaker 4: he's running out on the field.
- 24:17Speaker 6: I mean, the bloke's traveled from.
- 24:19Speaker 1: To be fair, he didn't use field to get on
- 24:21Speaker 1: the field.
- 24:21Speaker 6: No, I know that.
- 24:22Speaker 4: But the point is he's traveled over there because he's
- 24:24Speaker 4: a big supporter as we know of that rabbit os
- 24:26Speaker 4: is his shirts and his T shirts. Then and then
- 24:29Speaker 4: he's strutted himself onto the field, and now we're being
- 24:32Speaker 4: told shackle yourself down, don't leave your house practically, and
- 24:35Speaker 4: old mates and old mate's gallivanting around the country.
- 24:38Speaker 3: Okay, well, okay, So if it was me, if I
- 24:40Speaker 3: was living in Camber and I wanted to go to
- 24:42Speaker 3: that game there to watch the thousandth try whatever it
- 24:46Speaker 3: was being taken, I would have had to get on
- 24:49Speaker 3: a commercial flat.
- 24:50Speaker 5: He's the Prime Minister.
- 24:51Speaker 3: He's not getting on a commercial flat, right for all
- 24:54Speaker 3: the security concerns and whatever. He's got to get on
- 24:56Speaker 3: his own plate. So what do you propose we do instead?
- 25:00Speaker 3: He should He has to stay in the lot.
- 25:01Speaker 2: He could not go to the football one time, exactly,
- 25:04Speaker 2: the football, because he's asking all of us to sacrifice exactly,
- 25:07Speaker 2: So give up your rabbit os for a weekend.
- 25:09Speaker 1: We can't get inspire to take one for the team.
- 25:13Speaker 5: Get on a train. You and I could get on
- 25:15Speaker 5: a train or a bus with the Prime minister. Can't
- 25:17Speaker 5: do that, Well, what option does he have available to you?
- 25:20Speaker 4: Just don't want you just don't want to bump into
- 25:22Speaker 4: him on a train one day.
- 25:23Speaker 3: I'm happy to bump into it in the train less
- 25:25Speaker 3: let's be real here, the guys, the Prime Minister, like,
- 25:28Speaker 3: I think we've got bigger fish to fry than complaining
- 25:31Speaker 3: about the fact he got on.
- 25:31Speaker 4: What about bow and about bow and gallivanting up to Brisbane?
- 25:35Speaker 3: Well, no, I think it's not the flight that I
- 25:37Speaker 3: think is a problem. I think it's more that he's
- 25:39Speaker 3: got his eye off the ball.
- 25:40Speaker 5: When he's.
- 25:43Speaker 1: On the ball.
- 25:44Speaker 2: My concern for you, Caleb is that having taken a
- 25:46Speaker 2: big stance tonight defending the PM, something will happen tomorrow
- 25:50Speaker 2: and you will come to regret it the same way
- 25:52Speaker 2: that I have come to regret being the ABC. The
- 25:54Speaker 2: other night, I'll be on a play over there and
- 25:57Speaker 2: the Jets field over there strike and today I regret
- 26:01Speaker 2: defending the ABC.
- 26:02Speaker 1: I argued the other night.
- 26:04Speaker 2: Look, if they want more than ten percent over the next.
- 26:07Speaker 1: Three years, fair enough, have you strike? Everyone else does?
- 26:10Speaker 2: We don't get stuck into everyone that takes industrial action. However,
- 26:14Speaker 2: the ABC did a couple of things today that I
- 26:16Speaker 2: think are indefensible, not least of which using the platform
- 26:20Speaker 2: they have at taxpayer expense to argue their case, which
- 26:24Speaker 2: I think is a misuse of the Australian Broadcasting corporation.
- 26:28Speaker 2: Here's some of what went to air.
- 26:30Speaker 8: They're asking ABC management to deliver secure, safe and sustainable
- 26:34Speaker 8: jobs so we can deliver the news and content you deserve,
- 26:38Speaker 8: but their fallen shot of offering fair.
- 26:40Speaker 1: Pay and conditions.
- 26:41Speaker 4: We're asking ABC management to deliver secure, safe and sustainable
- 26:46Speaker 4: jobs so we can deliver the news and content that
- 26:49Speaker 4: you deserve.
- 26:51Speaker 1: Now, I don't think.
- 26:51Speaker 2: It's on for them to use the ABC channel to
- 26:55Speaker 2: argue their wage claim. But here's the second thing they
- 26:58Speaker 2: did that made me regret stair up for them the
- 27:00Speaker 2: other night.
- 27:01Speaker 1: The union came out today and.
- 27:03Speaker 2: Asked the public to make donations to the ABC to
- 27:07Speaker 2: help staff make it through the strike. So they take
- 27:11Speaker 2: our money in the first place. When they're upset they
- 27:13Speaker 2: don't get enough of our money, they ask for more
- 27:16Speaker 2: of our money so they can afford to protest for
- 27:19Speaker 2: even more of our money.
- 27:20Speaker 4: There, I believe that, I mean, honestly, the hypocrisy of
- 27:23Speaker 4: the ABC. So yeah, they want they want donations. This
- 27:26Speaker 4: was put on by the MEAA that was caught a
- 27:29Speaker 4: crowd strike fund. I mean, for goodness sake, look what bothered.
- 27:33Speaker 4: I mean, this whole thing is absolutely fascical, right if
- 27:36Speaker 4: the ABC was actually serious, which they're not, because they're
- 27:40Speaker 4: the editorial code never ever gets complied with. But they've
- 27:44Speaker 4: walked off the job today, right, They've made such a
- 27:46Speaker 4: whoha over it after what I thought was quite generous
- 27:50Speaker 4: conditions over three years, and then they've gone to the pub.
- 27:54Speaker 4: Now they've all just waltzed off the job and gone
- 27:56Speaker 4: down to the pub. Yet they're begging us for money.
- 28:00Speaker 4: I don't think it is a very good look personally
- 28:03Speaker 4: to have gone to the pub after this for a
- 28:05Speaker 4: couple of drinks. I thought that was just silly and
- 28:07Speaker 4: it was just wrong to me. That goes to show
- 28:10Speaker 4: that they're not actually serious in my view. And the
- 28:13Speaker 4: other thing is is that some of them were even
- 28:15Speaker 4: spotted holding signs suggested that they couldn't even pay their
- 28:18Speaker 4: power bills. So why are they down at the pub
- 28:20Speaker 4: having a pint?
- 28:21Speaker 1: That's the problem. Those two messages are completely at old right.
- 28:24Speaker 5: A couple of things.
- 28:26Speaker 3: Yes, I agree that they shouldn't be able to use
- 28:28Speaker 3: the ABC's on airspace to are.
- 28:30Speaker 1: You about to defend the ABC?
- 28:32Speaker 5: Just let me get there.
- 28:33Speaker 3: They shouldn't use the ABC's on airspace to talk about
- 28:36Speaker 3: their cause you wouldn't be afforded that in a newspaper
- 28:40Speaker 3: just to say I don't like the newspaper I work for,
- 28:43Speaker 3: right theme a asking for donations to support ABC's staff.
- 28:50Speaker 3: I've not seen them do that for any commercial outfit
- 28:53Speaker 3: when they have had mass redundancies. And I've been through
- 28:56Speaker 3: all of this before in newsrooms i've worked at. Not
- 29:00Speaker 3: once have I seen the MEAA stand up and defend
- 29:04Speaker 3: or try to support people in that way. But when
- 29:06Speaker 3: it's the ABC, Oh, you know, there are different species,
- 29:09Speaker 3: all right. As for going to the pub, why can't
- 29:12Speaker 3: they go to the pub? For heaven, say, what else
- 29:14Speaker 3: do they meant to do all day they're on strike.
- 29:16Speaker 3: I may disagree with them being on strike, but they
- 29:19Speaker 3: are legally allowed to go on strike. Why can't they
- 29:22Speaker 3: go to the pub and have a drink?
- 29:23Speaker 6: Caliber real perception of it? It's the perception of it.
- 29:26Speaker 4: Some of them are holding up signs saying that they
- 29:28Speaker 4: can't pay their power bills. They're meant to be the
- 29:30Speaker 4: public broadcast and they're meant to represent this country. Yet
- 29:34Speaker 4: they've walked off air today in the middle of a
- 29:36Speaker 4: fuel crisis, in the middle of a cost of living crisis,
- 29:38Speaker 4: where people are not going to be able to get
- 29:39Speaker 4: their most up to date information because we turn on
- 29:42Speaker 4: we're watching the BBC for goodness sake, use instead and
- 29:46Speaker 4: it's the I agree, come to our come to our channel.
- 29:49Speaker 4: You actually get the updated information, but the perception of that,
- 29:53Speaker 4: and then to walk out and go to the pub like, oh, well,
- 29:56Speaker 4: you know what, we're on the taxpayer dime.
- 29:58Speaker 6: I don't care. Looks poor, it looks bad.
- 30:02Speaker 5: So they should be locked in their home.
- 30:04Speaker 2: No, No, it wasn't that they went to be It was
- 30:07Speaker 2: it was that they said we need public donations to
- 30:09Speaker 2: help us struggle through the strike because we'll barely be
- 30:12Speaker 2: able to afford our rent. And they're down the pub
- 30:14Speaker 2: having a drink. You can't sell those two messages saying.
- 30:18Speaker 3: That is a human right to be able to buy
- 30:19Speaker 3: an affordable part of beer.
- 30:21Speaker 1: To beer, it's a human right. It just doesn't look right.
- 30:24Speaker 3: Well, you know, there are a hundred things I'll criticize
- 30:27Speaker 3: the ABC for, but you know what, going for for
- 30:30Speaker 3: a beer on a Wednesday afternoon, I'd be there with you.
- 30:34Speaker 6: Can I just say I'm a bit worried about you too.
- 30:36Speaker 4: This is this We've had you both defending the AB
- 30:38Speaker 4: say this week and some capacity. I am the only
- 30:41Speaker 4: person standing on the panel, but you know, the night
- 30:44Speaker 4: of the week, you've young, The week is young.
- 30:46Speaker 2: Who knows, Mike, I'm the most virtuous because I started
- 30:49Speaker 2: with support, but then I changed my mind, proving I'm
- 30:52Speaker 2: capable of listening to you.
- 30:53Speaker 3: Well, unlike left wing women, of course, completely discount that
- 30:59Speaker 3: point of possibly be entertained. Speaking of point of view
- 31:04Speaker 3: that well, I would suggest these ones are not even
- 31:07Speaker 3: worthy of entertainment. But somehow, in the weird and wacky
- 31:10Speaker 3: place they call England, they are.
- 31:12Speaker 5: Entertaining these ideas.
- 31:14Speaker 3: In Manchester there's a mob called the Great Places Housing Group.
- 31:18Speaker 3: They are not for profit housing association. They build affordable
- 31:22Speaker 3: housing for people basically, and they've been off having a
- 31:25Speaker 3: little chin wag with the Manchester City Council, the leader
- 31:30Speaker 3: of which is a labor lesbian the name of Bev Craig,
- 31:34Speaker 3: and they've come up with this grand idea that lgbt
- 31:39Speaker 3: QI plus whatever people require their own form of housing. Yes,
- 31:45Speaker 3: I know you're probably saying anything, what specifically do they
- 31:50Speaker 3: need that everyone else does not?
- 31:52Speaker 5: I don't know. Listen to Ms Craig in Manchester rebuilding
- 31:56Speaker 5: the UK's first LGBTQ plus affordable heising skin.
- 32:00Speaker 1: We're here, I'm saying moly range where there's going to
- 32:02Speaker 1: be one.
- 32:03Speaker 3: Hundred percent affordable homes, easy social rent and the actual
- 32:07Speaker 3: cash in behind me and another forty affordable shado ownership
- 32:11Speaker 3: are i'd the corner?
- 32:13Speaker 5: I'm sorry.
- 32:15Speaker 3: I'm a human being. Gay people I know also happen
- 32:19Speaker 3: to be human beings.
- 32:22Speaker 5: We live in.
- 32:23Speaker 3: Houses or units or flats or apartments or whatever it
- 32:27Speaker 3: might be. So what do they need? They need roof
- 32:31Speaker 3: over their head, so do I? They need a bedroom
- 32:35Speaker 3: and a living room, So do I kitchen?
- 32:37Speaker 5: So do I toilet, bath, shower?
- 32:41Speaker 3: So what what do l g b t Q people
- 32:45Speaker 3: need in a housing that everyone else does not?
- 32:49Speaker 2: The argument was as they age, they feel uncomfortable expressing
- 32:55Speaker 2: their sexuality around people who may not be LGBTQ community members,
- 33:01Speaker 2: so they want a safe environment as they age surrounded
- 33:05Speaker 2: by people like them. My question is, how is this
- 33:08Speaker 2: not discriminatory? Like what if a straight person wants to
- 33:12Speaker 2: get an apartment in this development? Are they excluded on
- 33:15Speaker 2: the basis of their sexuality which would go against you?
- 33:18Speaker 2: Not gay enough, which would go against everything the LGBTQ
- 33:21Speaker 2: community has fought for to be treated like everybody else,
- 33:24Speaker 2: or how.
- 33:24Speaker 1: Do you prove it?
- 33:25Speaker 4: What's the threshold of that? So let me get this straight, right,
- 33:30Speaker 4: part of the past, right, let me get this straight.
- 33:34Speaker 5: So there's not a need.
- 33:37Speaker 4: Housing development, right is being built not to service locals,
- 33:42Speaker 4: not to service the millions of Brits who actually need
- 33:46Speaker 4: to be put into into housing, but to service members
- 33:49Speaker 4: of the lgbt IQ plus community. What exactly is a
- 33:52Speaker 4: gay house? What is the difference between a gay house
- 33:54Speaker 4: and a straight house?
- 33:56Speaker 6: Have I have I missed something? But I do agree.
- 33:59Speaker 4: Imagine if the shoe on the other foot and it
- 34:01Speaker 4: was a housing development for straight.
- 34:02Speaker 3: People, no, no gays, alab you know it's being located.
- 34:07Speaker 1: We're somewhere over the rainbow of.
- 34:09Speaker 5: A well done, well done.
- 34:11Speaker 6: I just I love it. I mean seriously, well they
- 34:13Speaker 6: would come marching with this.
- 34:14Speaker 2: I just don't understand how that's not discriminated. It's a
- 34:18Speaker 2: little to discriminate against people on the basis of their
- 34:20Speaker 2: sexuality or gender. And we've got a housing development only
- 34:24Speaker 2: for people of a certain sexual perspcive.
- 34:27Speaker 3: But haven't they been telling us forever that they want
- 34:29Speaker 3: to be just like the rist of us? And we
- 34:30Speaker 3: want to be accepted. And now they say no, actually
- 34:33Speaker 3: we're different. We want our own houses.
- 34:34Speaker 4: Tolerate left as usual. Hey, before we go to a break,
- 34:37Speaker 4: have a look at this. In the UK, doctors that
- 34:39Speaker 4: work for the National Health Service now want to work
- 34:41Speaker 4: from home.
- 34:42Speaker 1: Would you believe?
- 34:43Speaker 4: In fact, sixty percent of doctors say they want to
- 34:46Speaker 4: work from home as part of a new system called
- 34:48Speaker 4: an online hospital.
- 34:49Speaker 6: It's the en NHS Online, a.
- 34:52Speaker 4: Virtual hospital that would treat millions of patients by matching
- 34:55Speaker 4: them with specialist doctors for remote consultations to focus on
- 34:59Speaker 4: areas like a need in flowered tree bow disease, menopause
- 35:03Speaker 4: and demetriosis, prostate enlargement, and glucoma. Now, most of the
- 35:08Speaker 4: doctors plan to work for the online hospital four to
- 35:11Speaker 4: eight hours per week in conjunction with their current role.
- 35:15Speaker 6: Look, I think this is absolutely ridiculous.
- 35:17Speaker 4: I'm all for telehealth right, but that's because I'm sitting
- 35:20Speaker 4: at home. I don't want a GP to be sitting
- 35:22Speaker 4: in their home amongst multiple distractions, amongst kids screaming and
- 35:26Speaker 4: yelling around. I mean, what's next at home? Surgeries at home,
- 35:30Speaker 4: blood tests for goodness sake?
- 35:31Speaker 6: But where are we heading to.
- 35:33Speaker 4: I think there are some professions where you've just got
- 35:35Speaker 4: to say, you know what, I can't work from home,
- 35:37Speaker 4: and that's just the roll of the dice. That's the
- 35:39Speaker 4: profession I work in. You don't work in an office job.
- 35:42Speaker 6: You're a doctor. For goodness, say go into the surgery.
- 35:44Speaker 2: It depends on the purpose of the consultation. If it's
- 35:46Speaker 2: for diagnosis, then I think you'd want to be sitting
- 35:49Speaker 2: across from your doctor in person. If it's to discuss
- 35:52Speaker 2: test results, then you may not need to travel forty
- 35:55Speaker 2: minutes through traffic to wait in the waiting room and
- 35:58Speaker 2: then go into his office. You could do that, zoom,
- 36:00Speaker 2: you could have the conversation. I think there's space for this.
- 36:05Speaker 2: I understand white people worried, but I think there's potential
- 36:07Speaker 2: for it.
- 36:08Speaker 4: I don't know it's the precedent I don't like. I
- 36:10Speaker 4: just think you just have to just realize, you know what,
- 36:12Speaker 4: some professions just go into the office.
- 36:14Speaker 5: That is that is true.
- 36:15Speaker 3: But I suppose if the patient's too lazy to go
- 36:17Speaker 3: into the office, then why.
- 36:18Speaker 5: Would the document vigure the eas do as well?
- 36:20Speaker 1: Right, all right, we're going to go to a break.
- 36:21Speaker 2: When we come back, we look at what's making headlines tomorrow,
- 36:24Speaker 2: including police investigating mosques that commemorated the death of the Ayatolla,
- 36:29Speaker 2: that and more in a moment. Okay, welcome back to
- 36:38Speaker 2: the program. Let's take a look at what's making headlines tomorrow.
- 36:41Speaker 2: As you'd expect, the fuel crisis and the consequences of
- 36:45Speaker 2: such making big news tomorrow.
- 36:47Speaker 3: Caleb indeed on the front of The Australian it's his
- 36:49Speaker 3: epidemic of empty Australia's port operators warned that a diesel
- 36:54Speaker 3: scramble could still trade nationwide, paralyzing container terminals and emptying
- 36:59Speaker 3: supermarket shelves, while the escalating fuel crisis is threatening fresh
- 37:03Speaker 3: vegetable supplies and forcing companies to stand down hundreds of apprentices.
- 37:09Speaker 3: As the government revealed replacements for six canceled oil shipments
- 37:13Speaker 3: and downplayed industry calls for petrol rationing, DP World Australia,
- 37:17Speaker 3: where chandles about forty percent of the nation's movement of
- 37:19Speaker 3: shipping containers, issued a stark ultimatum to the government reclassify
- 37:24Speaker 3: port operations as a Tier one fuel priority, or watch
- 37:28Speaker 3: both imports and exports grind to a halt. This is
- 37:31Speaker 3: from the head of DP World's Australian operations, Nicolay, knows
- 37:37Speaker 3: it is essential that critical industries are prioritized to ensure
- 37:40Speaker 3: Australians can access essential imported and exported goods. You know,
- 37:46Speaker 3: every day there is another story about how this is
- 37:50Speaker 3: getting worse. We showed that the clip before of the
- 37:53Speaker 3: number of places servos that are out of fuel and
- 37:57Speaker 3: diesel at the moment. There's no overnight answer to this,
- 38:01Speaker 3: and it all comes through in the supply chain, you know,
- 38:04Speaker 3: the farmers, the truckees, the shipping companies. Everyone is paying
- 38:10Speaker 3: for this, but who ultimately pays for it the consumer.
- 38:13Speaker 4: But even even on the front page of the odds
- 38:15Speaker 4: here you could see that it had different.
- 38:17Speaker 6: Industries that have been impacted. Have a look at this.
- 38:19Speaker 4: Police federal officers ordered to adopt smoother driving techniques to
- 38:23Speaker 4: minimize unnecessary idling and refuel within final two hours of
- 38:27Speaker 4: each shift. I mean, seriously, it's impacting every industry, the
- 38:30Speaker 4: public service, roral doctors, veggie growers.
- 38:34Speaker 6: And yet we were told two weeks ago, no, don't panic.
- 38:37Speaker 1: We mentioned veggie growers.
- 38:38Speaker 2: A survey of one hundred and fifty vegetable growers found
- 38:41Speaker 2: forty percent are either reducing their planting schedules or considering
- 38:47Speaker 2: reducing their planting schedules.
- 38:49Speaker 1: So if you get almost half of.
- 38:51Speaker 2: Growers contemplating growing less food because they're not sure they'll
- 38:56Speaker 2: be able to get it to market, et cetera, et cetera,
- 38:58Speaker 2: pretty quickly, a fuel crime will be a crisis on
- 39:01Speaker 2: a whole lot of other levels as well.
- 39:02Speaker 3: Indeed, they say two hundred electrical apprentices stood down. Rural
- 39:07Speaker 3: doctors are having crisis meetings because they're worried that patients
- 39:10Speaker 3: won't come to be treated.
- 39:12Speaker 5: It does not get any better this that all's been going.
- 39:14Speaker 1: What three weeks, I know, incredible.
- 39:17Speaker 3: And you know, if we had our ninety days of
- 39:19Speaker 3: oil which were meant to have, we probably wouldn't be
- 39:21Speaker 3: having a lot of these discussions on the front of
- 39:23Speaker 3: the oars as well. Tomorrow police probing indefensible vigils and
- 39:28Speaker 3: exclusive here police are assessing where the dozens of mosques
- 39:31Speaker 3: and other Islamic bodies broke the law by commemorating the
- 39:36Speaker 3: death of Iranian leader Atola Ali Kahmani, as Jewish community
- 39:40Speaker 3: leaders in the federal opposition demand a full audit to
- 39:43Speaker 3: ensure public money is not being used to support the
- 39:46Speaker 3: terror regime. New South Wales police and the federal government
- 39:49Speaker 3: are reviewing multiple taxpayer funded sheer organizations that held vigils
- 39:54Speaker 3: or posted tributes to the ar toler who had personally
- 39:57Speaker 3: controlled the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps to bar Australia as.
- 40:01Speaker 5: A state sponsor of terrorism.
- 40:03Speaker 3: In one of the most egregious cases, the Australian Peace
- 40:06Speaker 3: Association Funny name, Isn't It used a sixty nine and
- 40:11Speaker 3: forty two dollars grant from the Home Affairs Department to
- 40:15Speaker 3: run a language program while simultaneously promoting a public memorial
- 40:19Speaker 3: for the martyrdom of the Iranian dictator. Again, I'm glad
- 40:25Speaker 3: the cops are looking into it, because seriously, if you
- 40:30Speaker 3: are celebrating not the leader of but someone who was
- 40:34Speaker 3: heavily involved in a listed terror organization, you would have
- 40:39Speaker 3: to think that is against the law.
- 40:41Speaker 2: Well, the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils has argued that
- 40:44Speaker 2: we are mourning a fellow Muslim and anyone who's critical
- 40:48Speaker 2: of that is politicizing what is a simple funeral for
- 40:53Speaker 2: a fellow Muslim.
- 40:54Speaker 1: That's a bit disingenuous. I would have thought.
- 40:55Speaker 6: And I just make this point.
- 40:56Speaker 4: You wonder why Pauline Hanson is so popular right now
- 40:59Speaker 4: because she's actually calling out this nonsense. Seriously, Let's look
- 41:02Speaker 4: at the Daily Telegraph front page.
- 41:04Speaker 6: There, Drill or be drilled.
- 41:06Speaker 4: Is the headline. Are a newed push to unlock Australia's
- 41:09Speaker 4: vast oil resources could make the country self sufficient in
- 41:12Speaker 4: as little as five years, with experts saying environmental lawfare
- 41:16Speaker 4: and red tape have crippled our fuel security. The calls
- 41:19Speaker 4: to aggressively drill Australia's oil and refine it here too,
- 41:22Speaker 4: came as the petrol crisis deepened. More than three hundred
- 41:26Speaker 4: stations across New South Wales are running out of some
- 41:28Speaker 4: type of fuel.
- 41:30Speaker 6: I mean again, I just don't.
- 41:31Speaker 4: Know why these sorts of conversations weren't happening earlier. But
- 41:34Speaker 4: we're literally sitting on abundance of resources in this country
- 41:37Speaker 4: and nobody has thought over the years what to drill.
- 41:40Speaker 6: Or be drilled?
- 41:40Speaker 2: That's what struck me about that front pages. We run
- 41:42Speaker 2: out of petrol and then we think maybe we should drill.
- 41:45Speaker 6: Yeah, surprise, and they're shocked by it. WHOA really Okay?
- 41:49Speaker 3: But I think there are probably some people over the
- 41:51Speaker 3: years who've wondered whether they should drill or be drilled.
- 41:53Speaker 3: But we should be as a country on top of
- 41:56Speaker 3: this stuff, you know.
- 41:58Speaker 5: And this is the ninety.
- 41:59Speaker 3: Day, the ninety days of oil that we're meant to have.
- 42:03Speaker 3: The fact that at the turn of the century we
- 42:04Speaker 3: had eight refineries in this country.
- 42:06Speaker 5: Now we have two.
- 42:07Speaker 3: They're secured until twenty thirty by the federal government. Who
- 42:11Speaker 3: knows what happens after that. I mean, we've just given
- 42:13Speaker 3: up all our sovereign capability. The consequences of that are
- 42:17Speaker 3: now staring us in the face. But they were steering
- 42:20Speaker 3: us in the face twenty years ago. How did we
- 42:21Speaker 3: not see this coming?
- 42:22Speaker 4: Oh, we get it to do with drill exactly, little
- 42:25Speaker 4: baby drill, drill, baby drill.
- 42:26Speaker 1: Thank god, we've got all those solar powered semi trailers.
- 42:29Speaker 1: That's all like it. Say.
- 42:30Speaker 2: The front page of tomorrow's Herald's son an exclusive article
- 42:33Speaker 2: number of police patrolling Trouble Plague CBD to surge double duty,
- 42:38Speaker 2: reads the headline. The number of police patrolling Melbourne CBD
- 42:41Speaker 2: will be doubled for the foreseeable future in an unprecedented operation.
- 42:45Speaker 2: The trouble plagued south end of Elizabeth Street is the
- 42:48Speaker 2: top target in the new police crackdown labeled Operation Harmony.
- 42:53Speaker 2: You know, we run out of fuel, then we think
- 42:55Speaker 2: maybe we should drill for oil. We have massive crime
- 42:58Speaker 2: problems in Melbourne, and then I think maybe we should
- 43:01Speaker 2: put on more police.
- 43:02Speaker 4: Well, we didn't just into Alan say that the Melbourne
- 43:04Speaker 4: CBD was safe. Wasn't that a stark line?
- 43:07Speaker 1: This is about ago about harmony.
- 43:09Speaker 6: This is about harmony. This is about harmony. You know.
- 43:11Speaker 4: Well, I mean, at least they're going to put more
- 43:13Speaker 4: cops on patrol. But I also feel like cops are
- 43:16Speaker 4: being made escapego for the fact that just Into Alan
- 43:18Speaker 4: has done nothing to crack down on crime.
- 43:20Speaker 1: I love the names they give to these things.
- 43:21Speaker 2: Weren't they honest and just called Operation the place has
- 43:23Speaker 2: gone to hell something like that.
- 43:25Speaker 3: That's right, And I mean seriously that they're concerned for
- 43:28Speaker 3: the south end of Elizabeth Street. And when I was
- 43:31Speaker 3: living there, which is more than three years ago now,
- 43:34Speaker 3: that section of Elizabeth Street and Flinders Street, at that
- 43:37Speaker 3: intersection there was terrible then, full of drug os and
- 43:41Speaker 3: people absolutely whacked out of their brains on booze.
- 43:44Speaker 1: But didn't they change in the Abey Street and they
- 43:46Speaker 1: made it more sort.
- 43:47Speaker 3: Of well, they put in all this Austrians astro turf
- 43:51Speaker 3: and cut off the traffic that you couldn't drive through
- 43:54Speaker 3: it anymore, but didn't make it any better. It just
- 43:56Speaker 3: attracted more wackos who said around this and then the
- 43:59Speaker 3: state governments they were possibly going to put in an injecting.
- 44:02Speaker 5: Room on Flinders Street there near Elizabeth Street. Just crazy.
- 44:05Speaker 5: But I mean the council had to get.
- 44:07Speaker 3: The Reese police in of course, because the coppers weren't
- 44:10Speaker 3: doing anything.
- 44:11Speaker 5: They finally woken up.
- 44:12Speaker 3: Isn't it amazing? On the front of the NT news tomorrow,
- 44:15Speaker 3: speaking of these issues of crime, Darwin CBD hospitality businesses
- 44:19Speaker 3: plead for help IMiD surge in anti social unrest. Violence
- 44:23Speaker 3: at every turn is the headline. Darwin hospitality operators have
- 44:27Speaker 3: demanded urgent action after a surge in violence and anti
- 44:30Speaker 3: social behavior in and around their venues. In one alarming incident,
- 44:34Speaker 3: staff used a fire hose to break.
- 44:37Speaker 5: Up a violent fight at the last supper.
- 44:40Speaker 3: Jeez, I'm assuming Jesus wasn't involved in that one, but.
- 44:45Speaker 5: I don't know.
- 44:45Speaker 3: Did they get the fire hose out and start dousing
- 44:47Speaker 3: them or how did this work?
- 44:49Speaker 5: I want to know.
- 44:50Speaker 1: I have no idea, but I imagine and I would love.
- 44:53Speaker 2: To get video footage of that shore. There's CCTV somewhere.
- 44:56Speaker 6: There's got to be something.
- 44:57Speaker 1: We're going to find it for tomorrow.
- 44:59Speaker 6: Let's have a look quickly at the Go Old Coast
- 45:00Speaker 6: bulletin now mary a Lago in Bargo.
- 45:02Speaker 4: What a headline, A leading expert on public integrity says
- 45:05Speaker 4: Gold Coast mayor Tom Tait has no choice but to
- 45:08Speaker 4: abstain from deciding the future of the controversial one point
- 45:11Speaker 4: five billion dollar Trump Tower development. The Trump organization pay
- 45:14Speaker 4: for the mayor's two days stay at Marilago in feb
- 45:17Speaker 4: as well as his meals and travel between the estate
- 45:20Speaker 4: and airport.
- 45:21Speaker 6: Well, well look at this. Now, this isn't good, isn't it?
- 45:24Speaker 6: What a great headline? I love that. It's a brilliant.
- 45:27Speaker 3: Imagine being the mayor of the Gold Coast and Donald
- 45:29Speaker 3: Trump pays for your accomodation, big valeries.
- 45:33Speaker 1: It's not bad at all.
- 45:34Speaker 2: Right, we're going to go to a break, but stick
- 45:35Speaker 2: around because after the break, we've got squirrels vaping.
- 45:39Speaker 1: I'm not making it up. It's a thing. Apparently squirrels vaping.
- 45:42Speaker 1: That's next.
- 45:47Speaker 2: Now, I'd never heard of the unwritten law of lawn mowing,
- 45:50Speaker 2: but maybe there's something to it. The law says this,
- 45:52Speaker 2: the first person who starts mowing the front lawn in
- 45:55Speaker 2: their street starts a cascading effect where within ours everybody's
- 45:59Speaker 2: doing it. A Queensland bloke has produced a video that's
- 46:02Speaker 2: gone viral proving this rule.
- 46:05Speaker 1: Seen this theory getting around that.
- 46:07Speaker 4: I don't mind that if you mow your lawn then
- 46:08Speaker 4: your neighbor's got one hour to.
- 46:10Speaker 1: Respond, sort of like yawning.
- 46:17Speaker 2: Apparently one person starts yawning everyone else does.
- 46:19Speaker 1: I think there's something to it.
- 46:20Speaker 2: You hear your neighbor mowing his lawn, you think, oh,
- 46:23Speaker 2: I should probably do mine, and you don't want to
- 46:25Speaker 2: be that house in the street that's got the bed.
- 46:27Speaker 6: Well, I can't aunswer that because I think lord, mowing
- 46:29Speaker 6: is a man's job. So I's being honest. What about
- 46:32Speaker 6: that survey would think of me?
- 46:33Speaker 1: Now?
- 46:33Speaker 3: I know I heard my neighbor doing something the other
- 46:36Speaker 3: day and that made me want to do it too,
- 46:37Speaker 3: but I won't tell you what it was.
- 46:40Speaker 4: What sorry, wait, what got to compute with that? Oh god,
- 46:44Speaker 4: I have to rewatch that one back later. Okay, vaping squirrels, No,
- 46:48Speaker 4: this is actually a serious problem. E Cigarette scourch, where
- 46:53Speaker 4: we've seen it around the world, has become so bad
- 46:55Speaker 4: that apparently squirrels are now being hooked on the vapes.
- 46:58Speaker 6: Would you believe have.
- 46:59Speaker 4: A look at this video that's circulating online.
- 47:02Speaker 6: This is in Brixton in South London.
- 47:06Speaker 4: I think we've got the video here. No, it's actually
- 47:09Speaker 4: we do have some vision. Here we go, Mom, there
- 47:14Speaker 4: is a squirrel in your yard smoking your jewel.
- 47:18Speaker 6: Mom, I swear it.
- 47:20Speaker 4: Actually, I think that might be of the vision of
- 47:22Speaker 4: a squirrel in Philadelphia, but it's actually doing the exact
- 47:25Speaker 4: same thing.
- 47:26Speaker 6: And they're saying it's a very big problem because.
- 47:28Speaker 4: They think it's fruit because obviously some of the vape
- 47:31Speaker 4: flavors are fruity, and then they're going on to suck.
- 47:34Speaker 2: An article in the UK Telegraph interviewed a squirrel expert
- 47:37Speaker 2: who said, quote unquote, vapes aren't part of their natural diet.
- 47:41Speaker 1: Thank god.
- 47:42Speaker 3: Really, I would really never have known that was the case.
- 47:46Speaker 4: Is this as bad as the RSPCA rat guy that
- 47:48Speaker 4: we had on last week?
- 47:49Speaker 2: I did said the same expert said, you don't want
- 47:51Speaker 2: animals ingesting nicotine, and I understand because it's a gateway drug.
- 47:54Speaker 2: Right next they're snorting cocaine.
- 47:57Speaker 6: They're on the pie, they're on the ice pipe.
- 47:59Speaker 3: Rules deserve the same pleasure as the rest of us,
- 48:01Speaker 3: I have to say. Speaking of pleasure in the United States,
- 48:05Speaker 3: our friends over at Fox News sent an intrepid reporter
- 48:08Speaker 3: out to see what was going on during spring break,
- 48:11Speaker 3: and well, what do they think about the eye toler?
- 48:15Speaker 5: You must be happy.
- 48:16Speaker 6: I'm very happy, a you Tola's dead?
- 48:18Speaker 1: And what whill?
- 48:19Speaker 6: What? What is that?
- 48:21Speaker 1: Because I tooler, I have never heard that word in
- 48:24Speaker 1: my life?
- 48:24Speaker 5: Was what's I toler?
- 48:26Speaker 6: I haven't heard.
- 48:27Speaker 1: I found out about Chuck Norris yesterday.
- 48:29Speaker 6: That was more devastating to me.
- 48:30Speaker 4: He was a supreme leader of Iran's We killed him.
- 48:35Speaker 6: You dead, You killed him.
- 48:39Speaker 5: Right.
- 48:40Speaker 3: Another one of these women was asked, you know what
- 48:42Speaker 3: are you doing this week?
- 48:43Speaker 5: And she said, blackout, rackout.
- 48:46Speaker 1: Well you're just.
- 48:47Speaker 6: Disappointed you didn't just say that. Cut that one out on.
- 48:50Speaker 3: A vision broadcast those after the watershed.
- 48:53Speaker 5: Maybe you could broadcast set on ten.
- 48:54Speaker 6: Maybe it might be appropriate.
- 48:56Speaker 2: I got to tell you that vision does not give
- 48:58Speaker 2: you any hope at all for the future generation. If
- 49:00Speaker 2: that's if that's America's finest.
- 49:02Speaker 4: You know what, though, I've got to say good on them.
- 49:03Speaker 4: They're having fun on spring break.
- 49:04Speaker 6: Let them.
- 49:05Speaker 4: I couldn't care less if they don't know who the
- 49:06Speaker 4: Io toler is. Go enjoy your life while you're young,
- 49:09Speaker 4: That's what I think.
- 49:10Speaker 5: Some days, go have fun.
- 49:11Speaker 3: Some days I wish I was living my life like
- 49:13Speaker 3: that and I didn't have to know who they is.
- 49:14Speaker 6: On spring break. You live on spring break every day,
- 49:18Speaker 6: to be honest.
- 49:19Speaker 2: That's it from us. Tonight stick Around. Coming up is
- 49:21Speaker 2: the Read a Penny Show.
- 49:22Speaker 1: Good Night,