Latest / WCHS Network Podcasts / 08/14/2025 580 Live with Dale Cooper - Mayor Frank Mullins, Andrew Donaldson, Mayor Amy Goodwin
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- 0:34Speaker 3: Eight minutes past nine o'clock, you're listening to five eighty
- 0:37Speaker 3: love WCHS the Voice of Charleston from Downtown Charleston. I
- 0:41Speaker 3: am Dale Cooper. Thank you so much for tuning in today.
- 0:43Speaker 3: Dave Ballen out today and tomorrow, will be back on Monday.
- 0:47Speaker 3: That means I'm filling in for him today on this show.
- 0:49Speaker 3: Jeff Jenkins will be in on Midday again this afternoon
- 0:52Speaker 3: at TJ Meadows on Friday tomorrow will be filling in
- 0:55Speaker 3: on Midday four day Ballence. So that is kind of
- 0:58Speaker 3: what our setup is here for the week, filling in
- 1:00Speaker 3: for Dave, one of our many Daves across our network
- 1:03Speaker 3: of stations. This one though, is on vacation this week
- 1:07Speaker 3: days having he's I've checked in with him a few
- 1:09Speaker 3: times checked he's checked in with me and he's doing fine.
- 1:11Speaker 3: So Dave's fine. You don't have to worry about him.
- 1:13Speaker 3: The Bloomberg report just coming out of news. Kind of funny.
- 1:16Speaker 3: Two days ago we had inflation news that was, hey,
- 1:20Speaker 3: this is so much lower than what we expected. In
- 1:22Speaker 3: today's inflation numbers so much higher than we expected. Interesting times,
- 1:26Speaker 3: very interesting times. We have an interesting show as far
- 1:29Speaker 3: as those things go, coming up for you today in
- 1:31Speaker 3: just a moment, South charleson Maryer Frank Mallins is going
- 1:33Speaker 3: to join me for just a couple minutes, so we're
- 1:35Speaker 3: going to we're going to preview the remainder of Summerfest.
- 1:39Speaker 3: Summerfests started last night with some great events and then
- 1:44Speaker 3: it continues through Saturday and there's all types of great
- 1:47Speaker 3: things going on there. We're going to talk to Meyer
- 1:48Speaker 3: Mallins about a couple of those things. I want to
- 1:50Speaker 3: have on Andrew Donaldson a little bit later on in
- 1:52Speaker 3: the program. He's with West Virginia Watch and The Herdtel Show.
- 1:55Speaker 3: Andrew's been on this program a couple of times. He's
- 1:57Speaker 3: even co hosted it. He has been making the tour
- 2:00Speaker 3: he's in well, i'll let him I think four different countries,
- 2:03Speaker 3: four or five different countries where he's been commentating on
- 2:06Speaker 3: different things going on in the US, specifically this thing
- 2:08Speaker 3: that's going on in Washington, d C. So I'm going
- 2:11Speaker 3: to get Andrew's opinion on those as well as kind
- 2:13Speaker 3: of what his impression is from outside the country based
- 2:17Speaker 3: on the types of questions and impressions he's getting from
- 2:19Speaker 3: other countries where he's been on to talk about what's
- 2:21Speaker 3: going on here. Just wanted to kind of see it
- 2:23Speaker 3: from that perspective, which I thought might be unique compared
- 2:26Speaker 3: to what we've heard so far. So I thought that
- 2:28Speaker 3: might be interesting. We'll talk to Andrew coming up here
- 2:30Speaker 3: in about ten or fifteen minutes, and then Mayor Amy
- 2:33Speaker 3: Schuler Goodwin is going to join.
- 2:35Speaker 4: Us as well.
- 2:35Speaker 3: She was just elevated to the position to president of
- 2:38Speaker 3: the Municipal League of Mayor's here in West Virginia, covering
- 2:42Speaker 3: over two hundred and thirty municipalities in the state. It's
- 2:45Speaker 3: a very important role. Amy's been part of the league forever,
- 2:47Speaker 3: but I wanted to get Mayor Amy's take on what
- 2:50Speaker 3: her leadership is going to encompass in this what her
- 2:53Speaker 3: major initiatives are and what she sees on the future
- 2:55Speaker 3: for the municipal league. So that's what our show is today.
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- 3:16Speaker 3: our first guest. We have Mayor Mullins who's coming on
- 3:18Speaker 3: lines with us. Ring Mallins from South Charleston, gonn talk
- 3:20Speaker 3: a little bit about Summerfest this morning. Mary, good morning,
- 3:22Speaker 3: how you doing this morning.
- 3:23Speaker 5: Well, Corndale, go find thank you, thank.
- 3:25Speaker 3: You so much for for tuning in. I always love
- 3:27Speaker 3: Summerfest in South Charleston. It's a great event.
- 3:31Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a great time. It's you know, it's what
- 3:33Speaker 5: we look forward to at one of our big events
- 3:34Speaker 5: we look forward to every year. Started off last night,
- 3:36Speaker 5: got a little rain at the end but got most
- 3:38Speaker 5: of it in so I had a good crowd. We're
- 3:40Speaker 5: off the pretty good start.
- 3:42Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 3:42Speaker 3: I guess that that tributes track reality because the Heart
- 3:46Speaker 3: concert first time around in Charleston got canceled and last
- 3:49Speaker 3: night you got a little bit of rain with the
- 3:51Speaker 3: Heart tribute band coming on. But that's okay, that's okay.
- 3:54Speaker 3: The the forecast for the weekend looks pretty darn good
- 3:56Speaker 3: for what you have coming up.
- 3:57Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it really does. So we'll get back at
- 4:00Speaker 5: at this evening hopefully have a good crowd out to
- 4:01Speaker 5: night via. You're right, I think Mother Natre is going
- 4:03Speaker 5: to be good to us the rest of the time.
- 4:04Speaker 4: I certainly hope so.
- 4:05Speaker 3: And if you're in the area, you know what Summerfest
- 4:08Speaker 3: in South Charleston is all about. It starts late in
- 4:10Speaker 3: the afternoon around four point thirty. Food vendors open up.
- 4:14Speaker 3: They have them all over the place. What I like
- 4:16Speaker 3: is you every single day you have a place for
- 4:17Speaker 3: the kids. So you have the Kid Zone place where
- 4:20Speaker 3: you can go and get different activities there, and that's
- 4:22Speaker 3: an important part of a family activity.
- 4:24Speaker 5: Yeah, we wanted to keep it a family oriented advent
- 4:27Speaker 5: and that's one of the things that we put into
- 4:28Speaker 5: play in my first term was the kids Zone. It's
- 4:30Speaker 5: kind of grown a little bit since then and so
- 4:33Speaker 5: now it pretty much wraps around the whole backside of
- 4:35Speaker 5: the mound. So we're worthly proud of that. Everything back
- 4:39Speaker 5: there is free, with the face painting, the inflatables, the
- 4:42Speaker 5: slow cones, all that kind of stuff is free to
- 4:45Speaker 5: the kids, so they can just get back there and
- 4:46Speaker 5: have a good time.
- 4:47Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm really looking forward to that and when I
- 4:49Speaker 3: bring my daughter down there this weekend and the music
- 4:53Speaker 3: starts every night at about six o'clock. There's two shows
- 4:55Speaker 3: every night, all kinds of things. Josh Pantry is going
- 4:58Speaker 3: to be over there tomorrow and night. I know he's
- 5:00Speaker 3: a very popular locally. You have the Detonators and the
- 5:04Speaker 3: Legacy Motown Review that's going to be performing tonight. It's
- 5:07Speaker 3: just a good time, live music, live events. It's your friends,
- 5:11Speaker 3: your neighbors, and it's in the beautiful city of South Charles.
- 5:14Speaker 3: I mean, there's really nothing to not love about this.
- 5:17Speaker 5: It really isn't It is a great time. Just bring
- 5:19Speaker 5: your lawn chair, set it out on d Street and
- 5:21Speaker 5: join the entertainment. You know, I like that most about it.
- 5:24Speaker 5: Just mingle with all across the crowd, and you see
- 5:25Speaker 5: a lot of people you don't get to see all
- 5:27Speaker 5: the time. So it's just a good time to get out.
- 5:29Speaker 5: It's a good family atmosphere, as I mentioned, and so
- 5:31Speaker 5: they come on out and join the entertainment. We'll have
- 5:33Speaker 5: a big drone show on Friday night and fireworks end
- 5:36Speaker 5: up on Saturday. So come on down and joy with us.
- 5:39Speaker 5: It's a really good time.
- 5:40Speaker 4: Just briefly that drone show.
- 5:41Speaker 3: These things are getting more and more popular, and I know,
- 5:43Speaker 3: especially for folks that have like dogs or kids that
- 5:45Speaker 3: are a little bit nervous around the noises. Drones show
- 5:47Speaker 3: in South Charles and this is gonna be pretty cool.
- 5:49Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a quiet fireworks show, right, so but with
- 5:53Speaker 5: the music and everything. You know, we were one of
- 5:55Speaker 5: the first in Koff County to do it. We were
- 5:57Speaker 5: almost first of the stay yaha beat us by a
- 5:59Speaker 5: little bit, but but it's caught on a lot of
- 6:01Speaker 5: folks were doing. It's pretty neat. I mean, it's amazing
- 6:03Speaker 5: what they could do with those drones, is all the
- 6:05Speaker 5: different characters and things they can design up in the sky.
- 6:08Speaker 5: It's pretty cool.
- 6:09Speaker 4: It really is.
- 6:10Speaker 3: And then one of the favorite events for everybody that
- 6:12Speaker 3: happens there, and we've lost some of our car events
- 6:15Speaker 3: in the area recently, so it's really nice to have
- 6:16Speaker 3: a car show in South Charleston that's going to be
- 6:18Speaker 3: on Saturday morning starting at eight.
- 6:20Speaker 5: Yeah, we rebooted that thing a few years ago and
- 6:23Speaker 5: it's a couple of my city council members have taking
- 6:25Speaker 5: control when they run that thing, and it's grown every
- 6:27Speaker 5: year and it's grown again this year. I can't remember
- 6:29Speaker 5: the exact number of cars that we're having, but I
- 6:31Speaker 5: think we reached over two hundred last year, maybe getting
- 6:34Speaker 5: there again. So come on out. That's from Saturday morning
- 6:38Speaker 5: from eight to two, prior to Summer Fest getting kicked
- 6:40Speaker 5: off later in the evening, so it's a full day
- 6:42Speaker 5: that day, but come on out and enjoy the car show.
- 6:44Speaker 5: Those guys do a great.
- 6:45Speaker 4: Job of that man.
- 6:46Speaker 3: That is great information, a great time happening at Summerfest
- 6:50Speaker 3: in South Charleston, and it's the ongoing now starts about
- 6:52Speaker 3: four thirty today and tomorrow eight o'clock in the morning.
- 6:56Speaker 3: Saturday is an all day event, starting with the car
- 6:58Speaker 3: show at eight o'clock. But you can turn out out there.
- 7:00Speaker 3: It's going to be a great time, a mixture of events,
- 7:02Speaker 3: some free, some things you have to do. It's just
- 7:03Speaker 3: an amazing time and it's the perfect type of event
- 7:06Speaker 3: and festival to kind of start wrapping up summer, getting
- 7:09Speaker 3: ready to go back to school.
- 7:10Speaker 5: Yeah, it is, like I say, a great time and
- 7:12Speaker 5: Saturday night come out. We'll we'll we'll end up with
- 7:15Speaker 5: our our tradition of Rick K and road trip. You know,
- 7:17Speaker 5: Rick's been with us a long time. Everybody looks really
- 7:19Speaker 5: everybody looks forward to all the entertainment is great, but
- 7:21Speaker 5: everybody looks forward to Rick K. He's kind of a
- 7:23Speaker 5: statue with Summer Fest. So we're glad to have him back.
- 7:26Speaker 5: And again we'll wind up with the fireworks on Saturday night.
- 7:29Speaker 3: So meyor allins, I really appreciate your time. That's a
- 7:32Speaker 3: great time out in Summerfest. I look forward to bringing
- 7:33Speaker 3: my family out there. I know most people are. Thank
- 7:35Speaker 3: you so much for coming on and just remind us
- 7:37Speaker 3: a little bit about what's going on. It's how Charleston
- 7:39Speaker 3: this weekend.
- 7:41Speaker 5: Well that's it now Summerfest is going on, and so tonight,
- 7:44Speaker 5: tomorrow and Saturday. We'll wind up Saturday, but we start
- 7:47Speaker 5: every day at four thirty. The food vendors open up. Saturday.
- 7:49Speaker 5: It's an all day things starting date aim with the
- 7:51Speaker 5: car show, So everybody just come on out and enjoy
- 7:53Speaker 5: the enjoy the enjoy the evening with us. It's a
- 7:56Speaker 5: really good family oriented time.
- 7:58Speaker 3: Sounds a great Mayor. I really appreciate your time warning
- 8:00Speaker 3: and sharing it with us. Having good luck this week
- 8:02Speaker 3: and really appreciate it and thanks a bus. Take care
- 8:04Speaker 3: all right, take care maryor Frank Mallins from South Charleston.
- 8:06Speaker 3: What a great time over there, and for Summer Fest's
- 8:10Speaker 3: a it's an event that's grown and grown and grown.
- 8:12Speaker 3: It's just become one of the staples of our local
- 8:15Speaker 3: combined communities here in the Kenall Valley. Let's go ahead
- 8:18Speaker 3: and take or break. When we come back, we're going
- 8:20Speaker 3: to have Andrew Donaldson with us. He is with West
- 8:23Speaker 3: Virginia Watch and the Herd Tail Show. We're going to
- 8:24Speaker 3: talk up a little bit about what's going on in
- 8:25Speaker 3: DC and maybe some back to school stuff and things
- 8:28Speaker 3: as well. That's coming up next. You're listening to five
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- 12:15Speaker 3: I really appreciate your joining me this way. There's so
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- 12:21Speaker 3: bit of this of commentary for for for a living
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- 13:06Speaker 12: I've got a UK episode getting ready to come out,
- 13:08Speaker 12: and people overseas because DC is the capital that grabs
- 13:13Speaker 12: the attention overseas and other media. Because you know, when
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- 13:20Speaker 12: That's kind of what they think of. So it did
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- 13:26Speaker 12: like with everything else, President Trump is covered overseas very
- 13:30Speaker 12: differently than he is in our media. And I'm guilty
- 13:32Speaker 12: too because I'm in the media now. We really just
- 13:35Speaker 12: everything's reactionary. Donald Trump for and against. He does something,
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- 13:41Speaker 12: thing that's ever happened to the news media business in
- 13:43Speaker 12: our lifetimes, and that's unarguable. There are a lot more
- 13:46Speaker 12: recompense overseas. They kind of sit back and watch. They
- 13:49Speaker 12: understand Donald Trump very well and how he does things,
- 13:52Speaker 12: so things like the terrorists, things like this. They've really
- 13:54Speaker 12: adapted this term as opposed to the first term, more
- 13:57Speaker 12: of a wait and see approach. So they're like, Okay,
- 13:59Speaker 12: we know there's going to be the big loud headline,
- 14:01Speaker 12: then there's going to be the big loud reaction, and
- 14:04Speaker 12: then President Trump will react to the reaction. They've kind
- 14:08Speaker 12: of developed overseas. They kind of know to wait for
- 14:10Speaker 12: those three things to happen, and then it kind of
- 14:11Speaker 12: settles into whatever it's going to be, probably something that
- 14:14Speaker 12: would be healthy for all of us to start trying
- 14:16Speaker 12: to do.
- 14:17Speaker 3: That's an interesting point. I have a friend of mine
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- 14:26Speaker 3: of seeming half hazard, announcements of tariffs, no tariffs, break
- 14:29Speaker 3: on tariffs, back and forth. Somebody in the know there
- 14:32Speaker 3: could potentially make you know, quite a bit of money
- 14:34Speaker 3: play in the market if they knew what was happening.
- 14:36Speaker 3: But also the predictable reactions. Reactions became relatively predictable after
- 14:41Speaker 3: the announcements, and he started playing in that area and
- 14:43Speaker 3: he did it for about a month and did very
- 14:45Speaker 3: very well. He said, I'm not going to use like
- 14:46Speaker 3: the Trump index for my career, but for this month
- 14:49Speaker 3: he cashed out and worked very well, just working on
- 14:51Speaker 3: the inverse of announcements that we made on tariffs.
- 14:54Speaker 12: Yeah, we get caught up in the news cycle, but
- 14:56Speaker 12: there really is kind of a circadium rhythm to this stuff. So, like,
- 14:59Speaker 12: you know, we're both in the new business. So right now,
- 15:01Speaker 12: it's like, Okay, the reason I'm doing this overseas stuff
- 15:03Speaker 12: with my own work right now is because when Congress
- 15:06Speaker 12: comes back to September, we're going to go right into
- 15:08Speaker 12: failure theater and passing a cr and all of that.
- 15:11Speaker 12: We're doing this new stories on the DC military takeover,
- 15:14Speaker 12: but the Putin News sometime today, once that meeting happens,
- 15:17Speaker 12: that's going to take over the cycle Friday, going into
- 15:19Speaker 12: the weekend, and then we'll go into the midterms. Long
- 15:21Speaker 12: term we know that's coming, and even longer term we
- 15:23Speaker 12: know to twenty twenty eight. This stuff has a rhythm
- 15:26Speaker 12: to it, So if you can kind of step yourself
- 15:28Speaker 12: back from the day to day chasing the viral, whatever
- 15:31Speaker 12: the character of the day is on social media and
- 15:33Speaker 12: news media, this stuff really does have a rhythm to it,
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- 15:38Speaker 12: pop up, but the overall arc of it, there's an
- 15:41Speaker 12: up and down to it that you can kind of
- 15:42Speaker 12: follow if you have a little bit of perspective.
- 15:44Speaker 3: When we talk about what's happening in DC and a
- 15:47Speaker 3: perfect illustration of what you're talking about about the coverage,
- 15:51Speaker 3: especially in the US news media, Basically you have hyperpartisans
- 15:55Speaker 3: on both sides that immediately find and identify a sort
- 15:58Speaker 3: of what their narrative is going to be. That's what
- 16:00Speaker 3: they marry to, and they defend that narrative until it's
- 16:02Speaker 3: beyond cognitive dissisonance.
- 16:03Speaker 4: And it doesn't matter.
- 16:04Speaker 3: I hate the both sides things, I really do, because
- 16:06Speaker 3: not always as both sides equal, but both sides are
- 16:08Speaker 3: definitely guilty of doing this where you just you just
- 16:11Speaker 3: married to your narrative and you will not budge off
- 16:13Speaker 3: that narrative if we try to navigate through the truth here.
- 16:16Speaker 3: Some people is like, this is just a plain fascist takeover.
- 16:20Speaker 3: This is a warning every This is a warning shot
- 16:22Speaker 3: across the bowels to basically everybody. You need to be
- 16:25Speaker 3: in line or or who knows what's gonna happen. They're
- 16:27Speaker 3: gonna be federal offices in your office. People, you know,
- 16:32Speaker 3: claiming that there's a crime issue when when depending on
- 16:35Speaker 3: the on the data, Yeah, what is What do you
- 16:37Speaker 3: think is if we if we went to trying to
- 16:40Speaker 3: find the best possible faith argument for this, is there
- 16:43Speaker 3: a good faith argument to be made? Is that there
- 16:45Speaker 3: is significantly a problem in DC and is the federal
- 16:49Speaker 3: government the only thing that could help it?
- 16:53Speaker 12: There is this is just kind of the perfect media
- 16:56Speaker 12: story for our modern age because both things are true. Yes,
- 16:59Speaker 12: crimes down, yes, DC, the government area and the mall
- 17:03Speaker 12: and the tourist areas and where Congress and the halls.
- 17:05Speaker 4: Of power are.
- 17:06Speaker 12: If you ever went to DC in the eighties and nineties,
- 17:08Speaker 12: it is inarguable it is cleaner, it's nicer, there's lower crime.
- 17:11Speaker 12: That is all true. But DC is also a city
- 17:14Speaker 12: of two different things. So you have places across Santa Costia.
- 17:17Speaker 12: You got places in Brentwood that have very high crime,
- 17:20Speaker 12: and there's some systematic things built into d C why
- 17:23Speaker 12: it's always had a high crime problem. So you can
- 17:26Speaker 12: pull out the crime stats and go, yeah, the crime
- 17:28Speaker 12: stats are down, that's true. And you can pull out
- 17:30Speaker 12: the viral video of really bad crime happening and going,
- 17:32Speaker 12: crime's way up, and that's true too. And both of
- 17:35Speaker 12: those things are true at the same time. And it
- 17:37Speaker 12: goes right into everything else we're talking about. People Donald Trump,
- 17:40Speaker 12: and President Trump is the expert at getting reaction to
- 17:44Speaker 12: further his message. So the reaction of him, and he
- 17:47Speaker 12: has the legal authority to do this, So the people
- 17:49Speaker 12: saying he can't do it, yes, the home room law.
- 17:50Speaker 12: He gets thirty days past that he has to go
- 17:52Speaker 12: to Congress. He's going to make a big show of it.
- 17:54Speaker 12: They're going to have all the FEDS walking around. It's
- 17:56Speaker 12: going to be a big pr hit. What's it going
- 17:59Speaker 12: to do after that? If the answer was not to
- 18:01Speaker 12: go there's no crime in DC? Because now you look ridiculous.
- 18:03Speaker 12: And that's what a lot of the people that are
- 18:05Speaker 12: against President Trump are doing. They play right into it,
- 18:08Speaker 12: they add to it, they fuel his fire. A lot
- 18:10Speaker 12: of President Trump's success is he is blessed with really
- 18:13Speaker 12: bad decision making by his enemies and opponents, and this
- 18:16Speaker 12: is a good example of it. Of course, there's bad
- 18:18Speaker 12: crime in DC. Is this going to fix it? Probably not.
- 18:20Speaker 12: You'll have a little bit of a bump, but they're
- 18:22Speaker 12: not going to go into Anacostia. They're not going to
- 18:23Speaker 12: go into Brettwood and actually clean.
- 18:25Speaker 4: Up a lot of it.
- 18:26Speaker 12: Really, my favorite quote of that whole thing was he
- 18:29Speaker 12: talked about cutting loose a little bit of money for
- 18:31Speaker 12: road improvement West Virginians. We've heard politicians promise road improvement.
- 18:34Speaker 12: This is how Donald Trump do it. He said, this
- 18:36Speaker 12: is a quote, we need a beautiful topping by a
- 18:38Speaker 12: very talented asphalt type person. That's how he talks about
- 18:41Speaker 12: road improvement in his very Donald Trump way, which is
- 18:44Speaker 12: so entertaining. But that's the point of this. Does he
- 18:48Speaker 12: have the right to do it. Yes, Is it the
- 18:49Speaker 12: end of the world he's doing it?
- 18:51Speaker 2: No?
- 18:52Speaker 4: Is it the end of the republic?
- 18:53Speaker 5: No?
- 18:53Speaker 12: Is it probably going to go away in two or
- 18:55Speaker 12: three weeks because we just did this in LA where
- 18:57Speaker 12: the military came in, and when's the last time did
- 18:59Speaker 12: we talk about that? Because they quietly went home and
- 19:02Speaker 12: the court case hasn't even caught up. I think that's
- 19:04Speaker 12: probably more of the model of what we're going to
- 19:05Speaker 12: be dealing with here.
- 19:06Speaker 3: That's so insightful, and I think it really marries into
- 19:09Speaker 3: a lot of problems that we have with these things,
- 19:12Speaker 3: and it all comes bad to bad faith argument. And again,
- 19:15Speaker 3: this could be anyone that does this. And DC is
- 19:17Speaker 3: a great example. Well, there's not that much crime in DC.
- 19:19Speaker 3: Look how much it's gone down. You look at the
- 19:21Speaker 3: actual raw numbers. There's a ton of crime in DC,
- 19:24Speaker 3: and there's no question about it. It's the same argument
- 19:26Speaker 3: that I hear about Chicago all the time. I hear
- 19:28Speaker 3: people that's never stepped foot in the state of Illinois
- 19:30Speaker 3: argue about how dangerous Chicago is. I lived in between
- 19:33Speaker 3: Chicago and Detroit for fifteen years. I went to bo
- 19:36Speaker 3: cities a lot, perfectly safe both cities. Every time I went,
- 19:40Speaker 3: never felt threatened in any way, shape or form. Why
- 19:42Speaker 3: because there are certain areas you don't go to. Otherwise
- 19:45Speaker 3: everything's more or less fine. And that's what you find,
- 19:47Speaker 3: that kind of two city thing that is in a
- 19:51Speaker 3: lot of places. And when you start talking about, well,
- 19:53Speaker 3: Chicago's a hellhole, you can't go there without being murdered.
- 19:55Speaker 3: That's just not true. It's not even close to true.
- 19:58Speaker 3: I've been there twenty times. It's not true at all.
- 20:00Speaker 3: Same thing with New York. I've been to New York
- 20:02Speaker 3: I don't know fifteen or twenty times. It's just not
- 20:04Speaker 3: true unless you happen to go into the wrong place.
- 20:07Speaker 3: I remember driving through Indianapolis a few years ago, got
- 20:10Speaker 3: off at the wrong spot. I was looking for Indianapolis
- 20:13Speaker 3: Indians a baseball field, as a matter of fact, got
- 20:16Speaker 3: off at I think it was like Northern India or
- 20:18Speaker 3: something like that. I can't remember exactly. I got pulled
- 20:21Speaker 3: over by the police. I'm like, what in the heck
- 20:22Speaker 3: did I do wrong? I have no idea. The police
- 20:24Speaker 3: came up to my car, rolled down my window, and
- 20:26Speaker 3: they said, sir, I think you might be in the
- 20:27Speaker 3: wrong neighborhood. By my observation, you might want to find
- 20:31Speaker 3: a different place if you're looking for a hotel or something.
- 20:34Speaker 3: I was Indianapolis is fine, but this police officer pulled
- 20:37Speaker 3: me over just to tell me, Son, you might be
- 20:39Speaker 3: in the wrong place to seek other places. It's like
- 20:41Speaker 3: that basically everywhere.
- 20:45Speaker 12: It's like that. In Charleston, it's like that. In Huntington,
- 20:47Speaker 12: it's like that. In Morgantown. It's like that in Somersville,
- 20:50Speaker 12: a little tiny Summersville where I live there. You know,
- 20:52Speaker 12: Summersville is very nice, all the touristy stuff. But you know,
- 20:54Speaker 12: we can go down some hollers. When you start getting
- 20:56Speaker 12: past Craigsville and rich Wood, there's some places you probably
- 20:58Speaker 12: don't want to wander off without some way that's local
- 21:00Speaker 12: with you. The thing is, can you survive first contact
- 21:03Speaker 12: with a viral video and not overreact to it? Can
- 21:06Speaker 12: you look at data and look at a problem like
- 21:08Speaker 12: crime and understand it like, Okay, you can come in
- 21:11Speaker 12: heavy handed because it makes everybody feel good and you
- 21:12Speaker 12: can squash the crime temporarily. That'll work, but it won't
- 21:16Speaker 12: work long time. Because we know crime prevention. You have
- 21:18Speaker 12: to do the preventative stuff. You have to do the
- 21:20Speaker 12: infrastructure stuff you have to have, you know, the social
- 21:23Speaker 12: aspect of it. Poverty is a big part of it.
- 21:25Speaker 12: There's an all of the above way of dealing with
- 21:27Speaker 12: crime and just bringing the hammer and smashing criminals. Never
- 21:30Speaker 12: ever in the history of ever has fixed it. It'll
- 21:32Speaker 12: do it temporarily. It makes a really good PR hit,
- 21:35Speaker 12: but long term it ain't gonna work. Just like our
- 21:37Speaker 12: drug prom in West Virginia, you can, you just can't
- 21:39Speaker 12: throw enough of them in jail to ever stop it.
- 21:41Speaker 12: You have to do the preventative, which brings us to
- 21:44Speaker 12: what we're going to see in the next week or so.
- 21:46Speaker 12: With this, there's going to be the big PR splash.
- 21:48Speaker 12: The six or seven FEDS walking through Georgetown is not
- 21:50Speaker 12: actually going to change the crime rate overall. There'll be
- 21:53Speaker 12: a depression because there's so much pr over it. But no,
- 21:56Speaker 12: it's not the end of the republic. Everybody calm down.
- 21:59Speaker 12: You have to take President Trump and President Trump's opponents
- 22:02Speaker 12: at their face value. Look at it, don't lose your bearing.
- 22:05Speaker 12: And then when President Trump says does something good, say
- 22:08Speaker 12: that was good. If he does something bad, say that
- 22:10Speaker 12: was bad, and don't lose your bearing over it.
- 22:12Speaker 4: Because then you just end up.
- 22:13Speaker 12: Screaming in the wind all the time, and we're going
- 22:15Speaker 12: to get a lot of that with this story.
- 22:16Speaker 3: Yeah, you really end up looking uninformed. Like one of
- 22:19Speaker 3: the things you love seeing rolled out is like crime
- 22:22Speaker 3: statistics in Alabama and Tennessee, for example, very high. When
- 22:27Speaker 3: you talk about violent crime rates and things like that,
- 22:29Speaker 3: you deal into it more. It is very high, higher
- 22:31Speaker 3: than in most areas. They are typically rural states. Where's
- 22:35Speaker 3: the crime rate come from Huntsville and Memphis? Yeah, you
- 22:38Speaker 3: know what I mean.
- 22:39Speaker 12: As with poverty, Yeah, poverty is the number one driver
- 22:42Speaker 12: of crime. That always has been, always will be. Lack
- 22:44Speaker 12: of services driver of crime. It's it's the same stuff everywhere.
- 22:47Speaker 12: We just want to put the other story.
- 22:48Speaker 4: On top of it.
- 22:49Speaker 3: Yeah, that's absolutely true, and sometimes it takes a little
- 22:51Speaker 3: bit more of a longer view. One of the we'll
- 22:55Speaker 3: go to a break here in a minute. I want
- 22:56Speaker 3: to come back and talk a little bit more, maybe
- 22:57Speaker 3: a little bit more lighthearted stuff.
- 22:59Speaker 4: School thing.
- 23:00Speaker 3: I wanted to ask your opinion on the cell phones
- 23:02Speaker 3: in school. That's something in here in Kinnak County we
- 23:04Speaker 3: just recently got rid of. But you mentioned a moment
- 23:05Speaker 3: ago I don't want to leave this completely unturned. I
- 23:08Speaker 3: didn't we didn't prep on this, but we can riff
- 23:10Speaker 3: on it for just a second. As far as the
- 23:12Speaker 3: meeting in Alaska taking place between President Trump and Vladimir Putin,
- 23:16Speaker 3: what's your top line read on that?
- 23:19Speaker 12: This is something that President Trump's actually done really good
- 23:22Speaker 12: on Russia the last couple of months. He's been a
- 23:24Speaker 12: lot harder on him. He's been critical of Putin, which
- 23:26Speaker 12: is unusual for him. I don't know what to make
- 23:28Speaker 12: of this, because this was very much Putin talked the
- 23:31Speaker 12: world into pressuring President Trump into having this meeting, into
- 23:34Speaker 12: having a unilateral meeting where it's just the two of
- 23:37Speaker 12: them bilateral. I guess I should say just the two
- 23:40Speaker 12: of them talking about it. I'm a little apprehensive what's
- 23:42Speaker 12: going to come out of it, But again, whatever the
- 23:44Speaker 12: initial announcement of it is, we probably shouldn't react to
- 23:47Speaker 12: it until we find out the details of it. Because
- 23:49Speaker 12: you can come out and pronounce something with this, but
- 23:51Speaker 12: if we don't have anything written in paper, if the
- 23:53Speaker 12: Ukrainians don't agree to it, if NATO and the EU
- 23:56Speaker 12: don't agree to it, this may not have a whole
- 23:58Speaker 12: lot of teeth to it if we're not to do
- 24:00Speaker 12: sanctions and things like that. So I would caution everybody
- 24:03Speaker 12: to probably let that one burn a day or two
- 24:05Speaker 12: before we overreact to it. But the optics of it
- 24:07Speaker 12: aren't great. But we'll see what happens.
- 24:09Speaker 4: That's that's kind of what you know.
- 24:11Speaker 3: I don't know enough about that international theater to really
- 24:14Speaker 3: have much of an opinion. I try to retract from
- 24:17Speaker 3: from from downing too far into opinions on stuff that
- 24:20Speaker 3: I don't know all that much about. Optically, it's just
- 24:23Speaker 3: an odd fit, you know. That's the thing. The thing
- 24:26Speaker 3: for me is as I have a hard time kind
- 24:28Speaker 3: of squaring that circle a little bit. I mean, it
- 24:30Speaker 3: could be fine. I mean like, I'm not an expert
- 24:32Speaker 3: with this. It's just there's something about the the in
- 24:34Speaker 3: the gut that I have a hard time squaring, squaring
- 24:37Speaker 3: the meeting the way that it's taking place.
- 24:39Speaker 12: Because it's a pr thing and he's gonna see it,
- 24:42Speaker 12: and Donald Trump's a very transactional it's a big media
- 24:45Speaker 12: moment and he lives for those. So when you look
- 24:47Speaker 12: at it with your media hat on, it makes perfect
- 24:49Speaker 12: sense politically and geopolitically. No, it don't make a lot
- 24:52Speaker 12: of sense. But that's the secondary consideration. Is this sort
- 24:54Speaker 12: of a thing. It's moving the ball forward in Putin's mind,
- 24:57Speaker 12: in President Trump's mind, because they're going to have the
- 24:59Speaker 12: big moment, going to put all the attention back on them.
- 25:02Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's uh, that's very true, and it's it's
- 25:05Speaker 3: interesting the way these things play out. I like that
- 25:08Speaker 3: your perspective from this always is to to wait till
- 25:10Speaker 3: the noise dies down and then try to make sober
- 25:13Speaker 3: assessments of what's going on. Don't get caught in the headline,
- 25:15Speaker 3: don't get caught into the social media thing. I've almost
- 25:17Speaker 3: removed myself completely from social media except for where it
- 25:19Speaker 3: has to go with work, because you frankly don't.
- 25:22Speaker 4: I'm in news. I have access to like actual.
- 25:26Speaker 3: Local news resources and to people won the ground in
- 25:29Speaker 3: places I don't. I don't actually need social media to
- 25:32Speaker 3: follow the news. I have plenty of resources that I
- 25:34Speaker 3: could get to myself where I don't need to be
- 25:36Speaker 3: influenced as it as it is by people that are
- 25:39Speaker 3: trying to contextualize things that might not be necessarily true.
- 25:42Speaker 3: I've just tried to completely separate myself from that it's
- 25:44Speaker 3: more therapy for me than anything else anymore. I don't
- 25:46Speaker 3: use it for any information sourcing.
- 25:49Speaker 13: No.
- 25:49Speaker 12: Look, social media is a tool. It's like a hammer.
- 25:52Speaker 12: You can use it to kill somebody, or you can
- 25:53Speaker 12: use it to build a house for somebody. It's just
- 25:55Speaker 12: a tool you use.
- 25:56Speaker 3: Yeah, that's very true. If you don't mind hanging one
- 25:58Speaker 3: with me, I want to come back talk little abo
- 26:00Speaker 3: here locally. We're going back to school. I want to
- 26:02Speaker 3: talk a little bit about going back to school. We
- 26:04Speaker 3: recently had an initiative where cell phones are no longer
- 26:07Speaker 3: allowed up to high school in Knaw County schools.
- 26:11Speaker 4: Talk a little bit about that, what it might mean
- 26:13Speaker 4: you have.
- 26:14Speaker 3: You're a multi time father, You've been dealing with different
- 26:18Speaker 3: aspects of kids in schools.
- 26:20Speaker 4: So we'll talk about that from different perspectives when we've
- 26:22Speaker 4: come back. If you don't mind.
- 26:23Speaker 3: Holding no one for me, absolutely, As Andrew Donaldson joined
- 26:27Speaker 3: me from West Virginia, watch, we're gonna come back talk
- 26:28Speaker 3: a little bit about local school and things that are
- 26:30Speaker 3: happening here as kids are returning to school. Later on,
- 26:33Speaker 3: Mayor Amy Schuler Goldon is going to join me. We
- 26:35Speaker 3: want to talk about her ascension to president of the
- 26:37Speaker 3: Municipal League. That's all coming up next. You're listening to
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- 29:55Speaker 3: Hotel Show. We're going to talk a little bit about
- 29:56Speaker 3: going back to school. Uh and uh, yeah, going back
- 30:00Speaker 3: to school. Basically, Andrew's a father multi times over. I'm
- 30:04Speaker 3: a father of a young child, my daughter se is seven,
- 30:07Speaker 3: and so it's that time of year again and we've
- 30:10Speaker 3: may had some changes here locally in Kanall County. Did
- 30:13Speaker 3: get a text in a couple of texts, and one
- 30:14Speaker 3: of them Andrew, this is for you. Social media is
- 30:17Speaker 3: like a hammer. This is from the six eight one
- 30:19Speaker 3: four seven to four. That's a great analogy, so very true.
- 30:22Speaker 3: So they liked your analogy of calling social media hammer.
- 30:24Speaker 3: It's a tool that could be used either to bludgeon
- 30:26Speaker 3: or to build.
- 30:28Speaker 12: Yeah, oh, it's a nice to get a compliment on
- 30:30Speaker 12: the text line. That's better than usual, So appreciate that.
- 30:32Speaker 4: Thank you. Yeah, not so bad.
- 30:34Speaker 3: And then also had a comment from the three zero
- 30:38Speaker 3: a four to three eight nine that caught us in
- 30:39Speaker 3: the middle of our discussion about what's going on in
- 30:41Speaker 3: DC about local issues on this show, having more local
- 30:45Speaker 3: issues on the show, and I just wanted and thank
- 30:47Speaker 3: you for listening first and foremost, and I thank you
- 30:49Speaker 3: for responding to my text. I just wanted to let
- 30:51Speaker 3: you know that was the conversation we're in this basically
- 30:54Speaker 3: the second topic of the programming we're in this morning.
- 30:57Speaker 3: The other three of our topics that we're talking about
- 30:58Speaker 3: is basically local, So nderstand where you're coming from. I
- 31:01Speaker 3: try not to nationalize this show when I do it,
- 31:03Speaker 3: either try to keep things local. But there's things going
- 31:05Speaker 3: on and we'd like to talk about, and if I
- 31:07Speaker 3: wanted to be a little selfish, I don't get a
- 31:08Speaker 3: chance to do this very often, so I tried to
- 31:11Speaker 3: spread out and diversify it to talk about some different things.
- 31:13Speaker 3: So I appreciate you listening. But we have plenty of
- 31:15Speaker 3: stuff coming up, including Charles and maryer Amy Schuler Goodwin
- 31:18Speaker 3: to talk about her ascension to president of the Municipal League.
- 31:20Speaker 3: So that's coming up here in just a few minutes. Andrew,
- 31:23Speaker 3: I wanted to just get a couple guys talking here
- 31:26Speaker 3: of a certain age. You're a parent multiple times over,
- 31:30Speaker 3: You've navigated through all of these different I guess every
- 31:35Speaker 3: generation might say this, but I feel like that the
- 31:38Speaker 3: generation of our children that's been coming up for the
- 31:40Speaker 3: last fifteen or twenty years have really seen some pretty
- 31:43Speaker 3: massive changes in the way the dynamic works with education.
- 31:48Speaker 12: They have and they believed everything we told them about it.
- 31:51Speaker 12: So one of the things we don't talk enough about
- 31:53Speaker 12: COVID when they shut down the schools, that generation of kids,
- 31:57Speaker 12: and my two youngest kids went through that. My oldest
- 31:59Speaker 12: was in college when that happened. My other daughter was
- 32:02Speaker 12: in high school when it happened. That generation believes what
- 32:06Speaker 12: we told them about education. So when we shut down schools,
- 32:11Speaker 12: what we told them was that our school system, too
- 32:14Speaker 12: often as far as the adults are concerned, was it's
- 32:16Speaker 12: a giant jobs program for the teachers and it's a
- 32:18Speaker 12: daycare for the parents, and their education came in third place.
- 32:21Speaker 4: And that's how they saw it.
- 32:22Speaker 12: Because they could go to stores, they could go everywhere
- 32:26Speaker 12: where I live, the grocery stores kind of across the
- 32:28Speaker 12: street from the elementary school in the high school, right
- 32:31Speaker 12: And you told these kids who don't understand all of
- 32:33Speaker 12: the same They're like, well, we see all the same
- 32:35Speaker 12: people over here, but if we go over there, we're
- 32:37Speaker 12: all going to die of this dreaded illness. And that's
- 32:40Speaker 12: how it got treated to them. And they're all very
- 32:42Speaker 12: online and they have their own ways of learning things,
- 32:45Speaker 12: and they're smarter than us, and they're more online than us,
- 32:48Speaker 12: and they have more information than us. So we adults
- 32:51Speaker 12: us old, they just believe what we told them, and
- 32:54Speaker 12: they've made their own decisions of you know what, our
- 32:56Speaker 12: education is something we're going to have to take on ourselves.
- 32:58Speaker 12: We have to be a little more responsible needs to
- 33:00Speaker 12: be about us because they have a trust problem with
- 33:03Speaker 12: the adults in the school system and their government, and
- 33:05Speaker 12: they have a right to have one.
- 33:07Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that, and those are some problems with
- 33:09Speaker 3: a seven year old. We were a little under those
- 33:12Speaker 3: concerns at the moment, except for the fact that my
- 33:15Speaker 3: kid's just way smarter than I was at seven years old,
- 33:19Speaker 3: and the access to information is even As somebody that
- 33:21Speaker 3: grew up with a computer in his and I mean
- 33:23Speaker 3: I have my first k Pro two in nineteen eighty two.
- 33:25Speaker 3: I was eight years old with my first computer. I'm
- 33:27Speaker 3: familiar with technology, but as a fifty one year old
- 33:30Speaker 3: man today dealing with a seven year old kid, I
- 33:33Speaker 3: feel a little out of sort. Sometimes I'm trying to
- 33:36Speaker 3: get you know, security precautions in place, make sure that
- 33:39Speaker 3: she has the right filters and stuff like that. It's
- 33:42Speaker 3: very difficult. And that kind of relates to the recent
- 33:45Speaker 3: decision of Connaw County Schools that up until high school
- 33:48Speaker 3: that you're not allowed to have cell phones in classroom anymore.
- 33:52Speaker 3: And I believe that kids have rights. I don't think
- 33:55Speaker 3: that kids are all in like one bucket and that
- 33:57Speaker 3: we should just disrespect kids at all. But as far
- 34:00Speaker 3: as public school goes, what took so long? I mean,
- 34:02Speaker 3: isn't that an obvious move?
- 34:04Speaker 12: Well, it's obvious move. I've kind of been torn on it,
- 34:07Speaker 12: and I'm in the minority where I was slow on
- 34:09Speaker 12: it because one of the things about it is too
- 34:10Speaker 12: is I think education you should prepare killed children for
- 34:14Speaker 12: the world as it exists, not for how you think
- 34:16Speaker 12: it should exist. And the world they exists in is
- 34:17Speaker 12: they're going to have a phone in their hand.
- 34:18Speaker 4: Every day for the rest of the world. Excellent, okay,
- 34:20Speaker 4: or whatever.
- 34:20Speaker 12: Replaces cell phones. However, we've got the data now. It
- 34:24Speaker 12: took a couple of years to get the real good studies.
- 34:27Speaker 12: We've got the data in classrooms. So if I think
- 34:29Speaker 12: back over my working career, like when I was in
- 34:31Speaker 12: the military, you had all kinds of briefings where you
- 34:33Speaker 12: put your cell phone in the little plastic thing outside
- 34:35Speaker 12: and then went in and had your briefing. Should we
- 34:37Speaker 12: take it away for in classroom stuff? We now have
- 34:40Speaker 12: the data that yes, that improves your in classroom scores.
- 34:42Speaker 12: Should Would they ban them from the school building completely
- 34:45Speaker 12: where they have zero access to them? I don't think so.
- 34:48Speaker 12: I think you need to let them have access during
- 34:50Speaker 12: non learning times. I understand people just want to swing
- 34:52Speaker 12: the banhammer because it's easier, But this is just one
- 34:55Speaker 12: of those evolving things where we have to decide what
- 34:56Speaker 12: kind of education we want. And we do have the
- 34:58Speaker 12: data now that in classroom the cell phone should probably
- 35:01Speaker 12: be off or put away. But in school and around
- 35:03Speaker 12: we still need to teach them how to use these
- 35:05Speaker 12: tools we just talked about, because they're going to have
- 35:07Speaker 12: them for the rest of their lives, and if we
- 35:08Speaker 12: don't teach them how to do it now, they're going
- 35:10Speaker 12: to have a harder time in the future. So they
- 35:11Speaker 12: might as well learn how to do it and when
- 35:13Speaker 12: to do it, and how not to do it now.
- 35:15Speaker 3: There's some musicians when you go see them perform, they
- 35:18Speaker 3: actually have technology deployed at the arenas where you can't
- 35:21Speaker 3: access the outside, where your phone basically goes into automatic
- 35:25Speaker 3: airplane mode. I mean you can't access the outside world.
- 35:28Speaker 3: And we know there's technology where you can create gateways
- 35:30Speaker 3: to where you can allow some information through. It seems
- 35:33Speaker 3: to me like there might be a technological solution to
- 35:35Speaker 3: this where you can have the devices used as a
- 35:38Speaker 3: learning thing where there's no pass through information that's allowed,
- 35:41Speaker 3: and if there was an emergency, there's an override where
- 35:44Speaker 3: that would go away and you would be able to
- 35:45Speaker 3: use your phone. It seems like that that would be
- 35:47Speaker 3: a possible solution.
- 35:49Speaker 12: It's going to be the solution eventually, but it's a
- 35:52Speaker 12: massive funding issue right now. But at some point, what
- 35:54Speaker 12: they're going to do is they're going to have what
- 35:55Speaker 12: a lot of hospitals have this, military places have this,
- 35:57Speaker 12: government buildings had courts are starting to at this in
- 36:00Speaker 12: court buildings are starting to put in limited Wi Fi.
- 36:03Speaker 12: You're gonna have a Wi Fi system where you're only
- 36:04Speaker 12: allowed to access certain things. Universities are test betting this place,
- 36:08Speaker 12: but it's a mass you know, if you're going to
- 36:10Speaker 12: go to you know where I went to elementary school
- 36:12Speaker 12: in Frametown in Braxton County. You know you have thousands
- 36:15Speaker 12: and thousands and thousands of those. It's a massive funding thing.
- 36:17Speaker 12: But eventually that will be the answer to it. It's
- 36:19Speaker 12: just going to be a long way getting there with
- 36:21Speaker 12: the technology. Until the technology is cheap enough, they can
- 36:23Speaker 12: do it.
- 36:23Speaker 3: That's good stuff, man. I appreciate the conversation this morning.
- 36:26Speaker 3: I have Mary Amy that's gonna be coming on here
- 36:27Speaker 3: in just a moment, so I'll take my commercial break
- 36:29Speaker 3: so I could get to her. But nice conversation this morning, man.
- 36:31Speaker 3: I just wanted to talk about a couple of different things.
- 36:33Speaker 3: Some things that's going to on nationally, some things locally.
- 36:35Speaker 3: Catch up with you just a little bit. We need
- 36:36Speaker 3: to catch up in person as soon as we get
- 36:38Speaker 3: the availability to. But man, I appreciate your time this
- 36:41Speaker 3: morning on coming on the airwaves and sharing some of
- 36:42Speaker 3: your thoughts.
- 36:43Speaker 12: Yeah, y'all are my favorite media I ever get a
- 36:46Speaker 12: dous hometown radio that I grew up listening to. So
- 36:48Speaker 12: appreciate you, Coop, thank you.
- 36:49Speaker 4: For the time. Appreciate it. Andrew. Thanks A.
- 36:50Speaker 3: Buch Man that's Andrew Donaldson. He is with West Virginia.
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- 37:02Speaker 3: from that, to be quite honest with you, and I
- 37:03Speaker 3: really appreciate it. We need to take a break when
- 37:05Speaker 3: we come back, and Mayor Amy Schuler Glenn was going
- 37:07Speaker 3: to join us. We're going to talk about her assention
- 37:08Speaker 3: to president of the Municipal League. Very interesting. We're going
- 37:11Speaker 3: to talk more about that when we come back. We
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- 40:46Speaker 3: to go ahead and bring onto the program. Charleston Mayor
- 40:48Speaker 3: Amy Schuler Goodwin, who is with us this morning? And
- 40:51Speaker 3: I haven't talked to the mayor on the radio in
- 40:54Speaker 3: quite a while. Mayor Goodwin, good morning, how are you
- 40:56Speaker 3: doing this morning?
- 40:57Speaker 19: Good morning to you. So great to speak with you.
- 41:00Speaker 3: It's good to talk to you again. It's nice to
- 41:02Speaker 3: seeing you out and about my daughter's favorite mayor.
- 41:04Speaker 9: You.
- 41:05Speaker 3: She's the best, and you have done great, great things
- 41:09Speaker 3: and this will this this plays perfectly into your role
- 41:11Speaker 3: with the Municipal League. You've done great things with her
- 41:13Speaker 3: impressions of mayors, because up until she met you, her
- 41:16Speaker 3: only her only mayor exposure was Mayor Humdinger on on
- 41:21Speaker 3: the was it the paw Patrol?
- 41:22Speaker 4: I think?
- 41:22Speaker 3: And he's kind of a villain, and so to her,
- 41:24Speaker 3: the mayor was always kind of a bad guy. So
- 41:26Speaker 3: she met you, and so now she's like, she wants
- 41:29Speaker 3: to be a mayor.
- 41:29Speaker 19: She's very happy with Mayor's ma Oh my gosh, I
- 41:32Speaker 19: totally love that. As a matter of fact, it's so funny.
- 41:34Speaker 19: One of the young girls at the African American Heritage
- 41:38Speaker 19: Night event at the ballpark night before last, and for
- 41:46Speaker 19: whatever reason, there was a there's a video of me
- 41:49Speaker 19: double dutching, which, by the way, it is much much
- 41:52Speaker 19: harder than it looks. I don't know if you've ever done.
- 41:54Speaker 4: I respect your courage, mayor, I respect your courage.
- 41:56Speaker 19: Oh my goodness, gracious and so. But there's this video
- 42:00Speaker 19: now going around with me double dutching. I'm it's difficult.
- 42:04Speaker 19: But anyways, but this this little girl, it was about
- 42:07Speaker 19: five or six. It was standing there and getting ready
- 42:09Speaker 19: to double dutch and she said she said. I said
- 42:12Speaker 19: to her, hey, you should really do it. There's a
- 42:14Speaker 19: professional there. She'll teach you how to do it. And
- 42:16Speaker 19: she said to me, you do it first, then I'll
- 42:18Speaker 19: do it.
- 42:19Speaker 5: I was like, oh, no, what did I do?
- 42:22Speaker 19: But I will say this. It is you know, being
- 42:25Speaker 19: the first female mayor in the city of Charleston is
- 42:28Speaker 19: something I'm very proud of. The good news is I'm
- 42:32Speaker 19: the first, but I certainly won't be the last. And
- 42:34Speaker 19: I do think that. You know, mayors worked in every
- 42:37Speaker 19: form of government. Deal You know that because I've worked
- 42:39Speaker 19: with you in my other roles in government. Never thought
- 42:42Speaker 19: I would run for public office, but here I go.
- 42:47Speaker 19: But it is the it is the form of government.
- 42:51Speaker 19: It is the type of government that I like to
- 42:56Speaker 19: work in and it is the most connective form of
- 43:01Speaker 19: government because you not only get to meet and help
- 43:04Speaker 19: influence and shape policy, but you also get to interact
- 43:08Speaker 19: with my favorite which are kids. It's always been, it
- 43:11Speaker 19: was seven years ago, it's going to continue to be
- 43:14Speaker 19: in the future. Focus on the kids, because if you
- 43:16Speaker 19: focus on kids, everything else falls into place.
- 43:19Speaker 4: Yeah, I definitely agree with that.
- 43:21Speaker 3: I have a question for you before we get off
- 43:24Speaker 3: here to put a boat one regatta A Jim had
- 43:26Speaker 3: a question for that, but I wanted to talk a
- 43:27Speaker 3: little bit about the Municipal League first and then I'll
- 43:29Speaker 3: ask that before we get off the here. You've been
- 43:31Speaker 3: part of the League for a long time, so I mean,
- 43:33Speaker 3: this isn't a new organization verything to you. But with
- 43:35Speaker 3: your experience that you have there and kind of now
- 43:38Speaker 3: ascending to the leadership role in it, do you have
- 43:40Speaker 3: a vision for your short medium term as far as
- 43:44Speaker 3: initiatives that you would really like to see either continue
- 43:47Speaker 3: or something that you would like to try to see implemented.
- 43:49Speaker 2: Sure.
- 43:49Speaker 19: I think the thing that is most important to me
- 43:52Speaker 19: in representing the two hundred and thirty two cities, towns,
- 43:54Speaker 19: and villages across the Mountain State is just simply this.
- 43:57Speaker 19: I mean, yeah, sure, Charleston, West Rgia is the capital city,
- 44:01Speaker 19: and we're the largest city in the state. But we
- 44:04Speaker 19: need to represent all cities, and all cities need to
- 44:07Speaker 19: have a voice because we take directives through not only
- 44:13Speaker 19: our own research and our own initiatives, but also from
- 44:16Speaker 19: the legislature. I mean, many of the things that they
- 44:19Speaker 19: implement at a federal and state level impact our cities, towns,
- 44:23Speaker 19: and villages, and I think it is important to make
- 44:25Speaker 19: sure that not just the capital city is represented, but
- 44:29Speaker 19: that all cities are represented. I mean, most of the
- 44:33Speaker 19: cities that we have are far and away less than
- 44:36Speaker 19: ten thousand, So we need to make sure that folks know.
- 44:39Speaker 19: And people say all the time, oh, well, you're the
- 44:41Speaker 19: big city. Oh this is you know, you don't have
- 44:44Speaker 19: these issues. Oh honey, we all have the same issues.
- 44:47Speaker 19: The same issues of Charleston, West Virginia. I promise you
- 44:50Speaker 19: are the same issues they have in Beach Bottom. That's
- 44:53Speaker 19: not an opinion, Dell, that's a fact. And so over
- 44:56Speaker 19: the past seven years being mayor, and of course in
- 44:59Speaker 19: my twenty year career doing federal and state government as well,
- 45:02Speaker 19: and traveling I've been to every single county uh in
- 45:05Speaker 19: the state of West Virginia minimum five times.
- 45:08Speaker 4: Wow.
- 45:08Speaker 19: Because because the years that I used to travel with
- 45:10Speaker 19: Bob Wise and Governor Wise and Governor Tomlin, they traveled
- 45:15Speaker 19: as they should have. Which governor should I learned a lot.
- 45:20Speaker 19: I learned a lot about each one of our great cities.
- 45:24Speaker 19: And so it is, it is my goal and is
- 45:27Speaker 19: my job, as as former presidents have done with the
- 45:31Speaker 19: West Virginia Municipal League, is to make sure that we understand,
- 45:34Speaker 19: and not just that we understand, we do a good
- 45:37Speaker 19: job of communicating our challenges. I'm not you know, I'm
- 45:41Speaker 19: not sure that we always do such a great job
- 45:43Speaker 19: of doing that because quite frankly, you know, we're.
- 45:47Speaker 5: Mayor.
- 45:48Speaker 19: It may seem sometimes and your daughter may think, oh,
- 45:50Speaker 19: they're on they're on TV a lot. Well, most of
- 45:53Speaker 19: our we work nights and weekends and holidays. If our
- 45:56Speaker 19: police are out, I'm up. If there's a fire, we're
- 45:59Speaker 19: on it. It is the heavy lifting work, and so
- 46:03Speaker 19: we do a very good job. Mayors do, and city
- 46:06Speaker 19: council members and city managers all across the state do
- 46:09Speaker 19: a very good job at that meat and potatoes work.
- 46:13Speaker 19: The heavy lifting, if you will. Boots on the ground.
- 46:16Speaker 19: I just want to make sure that we always do
- 46:18Speaker 19: a good job in making sure we communicate our successes,
- 46:22Speaker 19: for sure, but also our challenges, and sometimes I think
- 46:26Speaker 19: we focus on our challenges and telling people, oh, what
- 46:29Speaker 19: is us? Here are the difficult things that we are
- 46:33Speaker 19: going through, which is of course important, but also sharing
- 46:35Speaker 19: our successes and implementation.
- 46:39Speaker 3: The Municipal League in your relationships with all these other
- 46:41Speaker 3: two hundred and thirty plus municipalities across the state, they
- 46:44Speaker 3: could almost be like many laboratories with initiatives, overcoming challenges,
- 46:48Speaker 3: different things like that you can work together and try
- 46:50Speaker 3: to come up with some best practices.
- 46:52Speaker 5: You know.
- 46:52Speaker 19: I was with our treasure state Treasurer Larry Pack yesterday,
- 46:55Speaker 19: who's doing a phenomenal job, and he even said it
- 46:58Speaker 19: best Municipally, we need to start listening and allowing our
- 47:02Speaker 19: cities and towns and villages to take action because they
- 47:05Speaker 19: are boots on the ground and they know. The one
- 47:08Speaker 19: thing that I wanted to certainly make mention and I
- 47:11Speaker 19: do every time I talk about the Municipal League is
- 47:14Speaker 19: that this is a non partisan group. Guess what mayors
- 47:18Speaker 19: are non partisan? It makes no matter to me if
- 47:24Speaker 19: you are in any political affiliation. Listen, I am raising
- 47:29Speaker 19: two boys. He are likeugh, do we have to have
- 47:32Speaker 19: a political party? This is crazy. It is the place
- 47:36Speaker 19: in the space where we get work done. It doesn't
- 47:39Speaker 19: matter what party affiliation that you have. And that is
- 47:42Speaker 19: what I am most proud of at the municipal league.
- 47:45Speaker 19: It doesn't matter to us. We're talking about issues, we're
- 47:48Speaker 19: talking about people, we're talking about projects, and we're talking
- 47:51Speaker 19: about policies. We're not talking about politics.
- 47:55Speaker 3: And that's where the good work can get done is
- 47:58Speaker 3: when you just have people talking about those successes and challenge.
- 48:01Speaker 5: It's hard.
- 48:02Speaker 19: It's not that it's not that difficult. I mean families
- 48:05Speaker 19: do this every day. Dale, you know this. You do
- 48:07Speaker 19: this with your family every day when you have an
- 48:09Speaker 19: issue in your family or even in your business. Politics
- 48:14Speaker 19: is not involved. It's practical solution. That's all that it is.
- 48:19Speaker 19: And we need to get back to a place in
- 48:21Speaker 19: a space that that's what we're focused on because that's
- 48:24Speaker 19: how normal people run their lives, run their households, run
- 48:27Speaker 19: their businesses. That's how we should be running our governments
- 48:30Speaker 19: as well.
- 48:31Speaker 3: Got a text line in from uh let's see you
- 48:36Speaker 3: got a text from the three zero four seven sixty
- 48:39Speaker 3: seven when my son was eleven. He met mey or
- 48:41Speaker 3: a good one and left the meeting also wanting to
- 48:44Speaker 3: be mayor. So thank you well.
- 48:46Speaker 19: That is that is that is very sweet, and that
- 48:50Speaker 19: is encouraging because I will tell you right now the
- 48:52Speaker 19: numbers that I see all across the country. I'm in
- 48:55Speaker 19: the US Conference of Mayors, in the National League of Cities.
- 48:58Speaker 19: What is disappointing is more people do not want to
- 49:00Speaker 19: get into government or run for public office because, by
- 49:06Speaker 19: the way, it's tough when they say it's a blood sport,
- 49:09Speaker 19: oh buddy, But it shouldn't be. It shouldn't be. It
- 49:13Speaker 19: should be a it should be what it used to be.
- 49:18Speaker 19: It's true public service. I mean, I'm standing here at
- 49:22Speaker 19: my desk. I'll be working all day, I'll be out
- 49:24Speaker 19: working in the community. It should not be this type
- 49:28Speaker 19: of vitriol, this heat, and this terrible rhetoric that's being
- 49:36Speaker 19: passed along because it's scary quite frankly. But what I
- 49:40Speaker 19: want to see is more common sense solutions, more level
- 49:45Speaker 19: headed discussions. You know, you can't lead if you are
- 49:48Speaker 19: screaming and yelling. You also, I don't think because I
- 49:53Speaker 19: wouldn't want it for Listen, you don't want it for
- 49:55Speaker 19: your baby. I don't want it for my babies. Looking
- 49:57Speaker 19: at somebody who is yelling and screaming at one another
- 50:00Speaker 19: to get a point across, we don't have to do that.
- 50:04Speaker 19: And that is why I'm so excited to spand with
- 50:07Speaker 19: other mayors and city council members across the state to
- 50:10Speaker 19: speak calmly and rationally and come up with good solutions
- 50:15Speaker 19: to our state's biggest challenges.
- 50:16Speaker 3: Before I got you loose, Mayor, our buddy Jim had
- 50:19Speaker 3: he was waiting on the phone and he had some
- 50:21Speaker 3: connection issues, but he just wanted you to summarize regarded
- 50:24Speaker 3: numbers this years compared to previous years.
- 50:25Speaker 19: Oh man, it was great. I'll say this. The temperature numbers, Jim,
- 50:31Speaker 19: as you well know, my little buddy, were certainly higher.
- 50:35Speaker 19: We don't have those in yet. As a matter of fact,
- 50:37Speaker 19: we had a meeting about it yesterday. They're still collecting them,
- 50:40Speaker 19: but I would say they're probably a little on the
- 50:44Speaker 19: mark where they were last year. Maybe a little. You know,
- 50:46Speaker 19: the heat was gross. I mean, at one point we
- 50:50Speaker 19: got to ninety eight degrees with high humidity, and quite frankly,
- 50:55Speaker 19: some of those temperatures as we've seen Mother Nature into
- 51:00Speaker 19: us this summer, have been non negotiable for some of
- 51:05Speaker 19: our families, and we quite frankly don't blame them.
- 51:08Speaker 3: Yeah, that's very true. Mary good one, Thank you so
- 51:10Speaker 3: much for your Thomas. Were appreciate you taking the time
- 51:12Speaker 3: out on your business the kiss for me, would you?
- 51:13Speaker 3: I sure will, no problem at all. We are, Amy
- 51:15Speaker 3: Shuld're joining us on the air of our final out
- 51:18Speaker 3: of office guests for this morning. I have about a
- 51:20Speaker 3: minute left on the program, and coming up next, of course,
- 51:23Speaker 3: is going to be Talk Line with Dave Wilson and
- 51:25Speaker 3: TJ Meadows. TJ has popped into the studio right before
- 51:28Speaker 3: his show. What's going on on the Big Show today?
- 51:30Speaker 3: Hey Dale, good morning. So Joey Garcia, Marion County Senator,
- 51:33Speaker 3: is going to join us. A lot of talk about
- 51:34Speaker 3: those hospital sales.
- 51:36Speaker 20: One of those hospitals is in Joy's district, so we're
- 51:39Speaker 20: going to talk about that and get his perceptions. We'll
- 51:41Speaker 20: talk nil and we'll also talk about the Apple ectionpower
- 51:44Speaker 20: rate increase company spokesperson.
- 51:46Speaker 4: A lot of good stuff today.
- 51:47Speaker 3: That's good stuff that's coming up on Talk Line. After
- 51:49Speaker 3: that will be midday where Jef Jenkins is filling in
- 51:52Speaker 3: with Channel thirteen's Amanda Baron, and then I'll be back
- 51:54Speaker 3: this afternoon with Dave Weekly on Metro News Hotline. Thank
- 51:57Speaker 3: you so much for tuning in today. Had a great time.
- 51:59Speaker 3: I hope you did as well. Thanks to all of
- 52:01Speaker 3: our guests that we had on as well. That's going
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