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NYC Alien Abduction · Boozy Banter with Friends

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SPEAKER_00: Grab a cocktail as we talk about life and death.
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SPEAKER_00: Everything in between and beyond.
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SPEAKER_00: Join us for a little boozy banter with friends.
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SPEAKER_02: Hello.
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SPEAKER_02: Hello.
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SPEAKER_01: Welcome to our podcast room.
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SPEAKER_01: I know, right?
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SPEAKER_01: It's our first time recording in here.
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SPEAKER_01: We've been gone the first couple times we recorded.
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SPEAKER_01: And so now we're actually getting to be in our own space, which is um both kind of cool and kind of nerve-wracking.
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SPEAKER_01: Because it's like, oh no, we have to clean up a little bit.
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SPEAKER_01: People can actually see.
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SPEAKER_01: So we have to like stage things.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: And um yeah, it's been we had a rework because the sun, we didn't realize how much natural light we had in here, which is normally a good thing.
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SPEAKER_01: And then today was more of a, oh, this is a little, a little too much.
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SPEAKER_01: Like so um, I will never understand how people um FaceTime and stuff.
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SPEAKER_01: Like when I get a FaceTime call, I never answer it.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm like, um, ma'am, that involves showing my face.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm not, I'm not answering that.
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SPEAKER_01: So I don't feel like on the phone.
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SPEAKER_01: But together.
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SPEAKER_01: Right.
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SPEAKER_01: I know.
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SPEAKER_01: It's like, oh, I better, you know, wear some decent clothes today and uh, you know, maybe maybe comb my hair.
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SPEAKER_01: So put on some makeup.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: It's it's a lot more work than we're used to, but I'll be able to handle it.
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SPEAKER_02: We got this.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we got this.
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SPEAKER_02: So um welcome.
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SPEAKER_02: I hope you enjoy uh the videos that we've been doing so far.
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SPEAKER_02: I think this is our third.
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SPEAKER_02: This is our third, yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, I'm still learning it.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm still learning how to do it.
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SPEAKER_01: Um right now it's just it is what you get until I can figure out how to zoom in and add photos, and it's just a lot of work.
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SPEAKER_01: We'll get there.
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SPEAKER_01: We'll figure it out.
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SPEAKER_01: Baby steps though, but um, yeah, it's um it's just different.
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SPEAKER_01: It's just a learning curve and um out of my comfort zone.
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SPEAKER_01: So uh we'll figure it out soon enough.
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SPEAKER_01: We got this.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we got that.
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SPEAKER_02: I believe in us.
2:37
SPEAKER_01: So uh it's finally getting towards the tail end of summer.
2:43
SPEAKER_01: We're in what, mid-August?
2:44
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:45
SPEAKER_01: And um we just got home.
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SPEAKER_01: We did our annual book trip.
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SPEAKER_01: We went to Haunt the Readers in Mount Joy, Pennsylvania.
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SPEAKER_01: And it it was so much fun.
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SPEAKER_01: We did have a blast.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so many people there.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, as much fun as last year's um books and brews.
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SPEAKER_01: Uh way different people this time, I felt like.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Less authors.
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SPEAKER_01: There are only about 31, 32-ish authors, um, all different types, as far as it wasn't just horror.
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SPEAKER_01: There was horror and there was um thrillers thrillers, and it was just all a good mix, and I really enjoyed it.
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SPEAKER_01: And I I met a lot of new authors that I hadn't heard of before.
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SPEAKER_01: So it was nice to add some new books to my collection.
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SPEAKER_01: Which we did.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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SPEAKER_01: So one of the authors, I've talked about her before, or I think I did, maybe I didn't, but if I didn't, I'm mentioning her now, was um Mallory Arnold.
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SPEAKER_01: And she was there and she signed my book and uh how to how to survive a horror story.
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SPEAKER_01: I keep calling it how to survive a haunted house whenever I tell people about it, because it's about a house.
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SPEAKER_01: And um, but it's how to survive a horror story.
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SPEAKER_01: She was so, so incredibly sweet, and I really enjoyed this book.
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SPEAKER_01: And so I took it with me.
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SPEAKER_01: She signed it, and when we got home, um, I heard about another version of it at Walmart, and so I had to run out and get it, even though I already know one.
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SPEAKER_01: But it was so cool.
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SPEAKER_01: It's um 13 days of chills, so it's um a Walmart exclusive, but the whole book is divided into little sections, and there's 13 of them.
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SPEAKER_01: And so you unwrap each section to read a chapter a day, or yeah, or however many.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't know if it's just a chapter or if it's just a section pertaining to that character, how they have I haven't figured it out yet, but there's 13 of them, but I love the way that they're um kind of divided up and you have to, you know, open each one, which I probably won't, but um such a cool concept.
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SPEAKER_01: Cool, yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: It is really a cute concept.
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SPEAKER_01: So um, yeah, if you are in the Walmarts and you see this, grab it because it's just a really fun, fun idea for a book.
5:27
SPEAKER_01: So um on our way back from Haunt the Readers, we didn't just come straight home like we of course not, we never do.
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SPEAKER_01: Never did.
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SPEAKER_01: But uh normally we stop in Savannah, which we did do, but just for one night because we were almost home.
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SPEAKER_01: But instead, we came through Asheville, North Carolina, and stopped there for a couple days and did a little bit of a brewery tour.
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SPEAKER_01: And um, we hit several, what, four or five?
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SPEAKER_01: I think it was five.
6:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
6:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, it was but one of our favorite stops.
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SPEAKER_01: I had never been.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, Layla had been before, she had a favorite beer there, so we had to go was New Belgium Brewing Company.
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SPEAKER_01: Love New Belgium.
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SPEAKER_01: And Dale?
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SPEAKER_02: Dale, Dale at New Belgium.
6:18
SPEAKER_02: You're watching this.
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SPEAKER_02: You were amazing.
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SPEAKER_01: He was so, so nice.
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SPEAKER_01: And I said, you know, I I drink like glorified water type beer.
6:29
SPEAKER_01: You know, I I don't do the um, I don't really do like the IPAs or anything like that.
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SPEAKER_01: There's just a little too much for me.
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SPEAKER_01: And he's like, I got you.
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SPEAKER_01: And so one of the he gave me a wide variety of taste, but one of the ones that he had me taste was this um Jamingo, Jaminga, and it's a grapefruit paloma.
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SPEAKER_01: And he's like, You'll really like this.
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SPEAKER_01: It tastes like a mimosa, which sure as hell did.
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SPEAKER_01: So uh it's kind of early here.
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SPEAKER_01: So we're doing breakfast beer um mimosas, and they are delicious.
7:08
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: So if you can get your hands on that, um, highly recommend.
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SPEAKER_01: It smells amazing, but it absolutely, if you're not a beer drinker, it absolutely does have that mimosa taste.
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SPEAKER_01: It's fizzy and it's got the fruity taste, and it's not overly beery.
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SPEAKER_02: It's uh it's an ale with agave golden lime and grapefruit and lime extracts.
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SPEAKER_02: Just really, really tasty.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_02: It is kind of boozy, though.
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SPEAKER_02: It's eight percent.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: It's a little boozy.
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SPEAKER_01: But um really good and not really heavy.
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SPEAKER_01: So yeah, definitely, and it's not overly sweet.
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SPEAKER_01: Like sometimes, you know, the overabundance of citrus and a mimosa is kind of a turnoff for me.
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SPEAKER_01: This is like somebody added more prosecco than juice, which that's what I prefer.
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SPEAKER_01: So um highly recommend if you it's a good tasty, yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Good tasty, easy drinking day beer liquid or something.
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SPEAKER_02: That's give you some flavor.
8:12
SPEAKER_01: Right.
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SPEAKER_01: So after our whirlwind tour of Asheville, we did pop in to Savannah just for one night.
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SPEAKER_01: And we didn't get to meet up with Micah and Courtney over at Ghost Coast Paranormal, but we did check in with them and uh they're doing really well.
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SPEAKER_01: They are launched their walking tours.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes, and it's you know, it they're busy as always over at the theater.
8:38
SPEAKER_01: If you're gonna be in Savannah this summer or this fall, um, highly recommend going in and doing uh their paranormal experience over at the theater because it's really good.
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SPEAKER_01: They are award-winning, by the way.
8:49
SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes, they did have one of those online polls for, you know, one of the like it wasn't TripAdvisor, but one of those sites.
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SPEAKER_01: And um Congratulations.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we're very excited.
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SPEAKER_02: No doubt that they did, that they would not won because they are so good.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: They truly enjoy what they do, and um it shows, like it absolutely shows because they will not end anything.
9:16
SPEAKER_01: Uh, a few weeks back we did that uh gray face museum, which was great.
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SPEAKER_01: It was very informative, it was more on the serial killer side.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: It was cute.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, but uh you know, five minutes before 10:30, she's like, okay, out the door.
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SPEAKER_01: Like she, I feel like she stopped mid-sentence to get everybody back.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, well, thank you guys for joining us.
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SPEAKER_01: If you want to show tomorrow to take a longer tour, yeah, you're more than welcome.
9:40
SPEAKER_01: We they gave us a day ticket to come back, but we didn't.
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SPEAKER_02: So um, but Courtney and Micah, they love what they do so much is that they want you to leave feeling that you got your money's worth out of it.
9:54
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and that you thoroughly investigated.
9:57
SPEAKER_01: Like they want you to learn how to use all of the equipment and they want you to know the difference between, you know, something that's just an old building and something that you may have caught.
10:11
SPEAKER_01: So it is really kind of um fascinating to watch them because I wouldn't have known the difference.
10:19
SPEAKER_01: There were so many times where I'm like, they're like, Did you hear that?
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SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, no.
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SPEAKER_01: I didn't.
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SPEAKER_01: I didn't hear that at all.
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SPEAKER_01: So it just go check them out.
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SPEAKER_02: Highly worth it.
10:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
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SPEAKER_01: They'll become your new best friends.
10:35
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
10:36
SPEAKER_01: So I have a little bit of Daily Mail for you.
10:39
SPEAKER_01: I love it.
10:40
SPEAKER_01: In a while since we've done Daily Mail.
10:42
SPEAKER_01: But I, you know, we've talked about him a lot, and I just feel the need to mention that um the guy that killed his family, Chris Watts, story about him, America Monster.
10:57
SPEAKER_01: Yes, we are.
10:57
SPEAKER_01: And he's been in jail, and he's got all this correspondence from these women who love him.
11:03
SPEAKER_01: It's like, what is mentally wrong with you?
11:05
SPEAKER_01: This man killed his pregnant wife and two small babies, and uh you guys are writing him and telling him how hot he is.
11:15
SPEAKER_01: And it's they there's a recent um documentary that's just recently come out about him, and there's another woman that's come forward to say that you know she had hooked up with him on Tinder or something, and he was like an absolute psycho.
11:32
SPEAKER_01: And uh, and so all this stuff is coming out, and um he just recently got married again.
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SPEAKER_01: Shut the front door, just recently again.
11:45
SPEAKER_02: What kind of woman would marry a man in prison?
11:47
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
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SPEAKER_02: Eight years later.
11:50
SPEAKER_02: Blows my mind.
11:50
SPEAKER_01: Well, she know at least she knows she's not gonna get killed.
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SPEAKER_01: So um he's in a relationship with a 39-year-old realtor who relocated from Ohio to Wisconsin to be closer to his prison.
12:06
SPEAKER_04: Oh my god.
12:07
SPEAKER_01: Um, her name is Lizzie Henderson.
12:11
SPEAKER_01: They've applied to Mary within the prison system, and she's already calling herself Lizzie Watts.
12:18
SPEAKER_01: Damn it, Lizzie.
12:19
SPEAKER_01: What's wrong with you?
12:21
SPEAKER_01: So, yeah, it's just I don't know.
12:25
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
12:26
SPEAKER_01: So, according to the Daily Mail, she has uh been a frequent visitor.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, the sign-in stuff shows it.
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SPEAKER_01: It said during one visit in August of 2025, an eyewitness told the Daily Mail she watched them engage in a steamy makeout session just one day after the seventh anniversary of the killings.
12:54
SPEAKER_01: They're allowed to do that.
12:56
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
12:57
SPEAKER_01: I don't know the rules.
12:59
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
13:00
SPEAKER_02: I always see these knots like with the glass in between them where you're like, you can't touch exactly.
13:05
SPEAKER_01: Oh no, maybe it's so now but I I'm surprised because he um really was enjoying all the attention that he was getting from these women who are like, He's still gonna get it.
13:18
SPEAKER_01: Oh, you're so hot.
13:18
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, people are still gonna get it.
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SPEAKER_01: He did it to his life, you know that he's gonna marry this woman.
13:26
SPEAKER_01: She doesn't know the mail he's receiving, and he's gonna keep responding to it and receiving it and doing all the things because men like that are dirt bags and they don't change.
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SPEAKER_02: And they love the attention, and their attention is ego, and that's all he wants.
13:41
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
13:41
SPEAKER_02: I mean, what else is he gonna do sitting in jail?
13:45
SPEAKER_01: So, anyways, that was my little nugget today.
13:48
SPEAKER_01: I read that, I was just infuriated.
13:49
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, what your wife and your children are dead, but here you are living your best life in prison.
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SPEAKER_01: Like it just doesn't make sense to me.
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SPEAKER_01: So gross.
14:02
SPEAKER_02: Being in prison, you're not supposed to be living your best life.
14:06
SPEAKER_02: Right.
14:06
SPEAKER_02: Right.
14:07
SPEAKER_02: Whatever, to each their own.
14:09
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
14:09
SPEAKER_02: Moving on.
14:10
SPEAKER_02: Moving on.
14:11
SPEAKER_02: I have a story for you.
14:12
SPEAKER_01: You have a story for me?
14:14
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
14:14
SPEAKER_02: And it's not about murder.
14:17
SPEAKER_02: Oh.
14:19
SPEAKER_02: But did you know that New York has moved up two spots to the number three in places to possibly get abducted by aliens?
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SPEAKER_02: Aliens in New York?
14:37
SPEAKER_01: In New York.
14:38
SPEAKER_01: It's true.
14:39
SPEAKER_01: Well, nobody would notice.
14:41
SPEAKER_01: Well, you like aliens.
14:42
SPEAKER_01: Oh, do you remember Men in Black?
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SPEAKER_01: They all come to New York because nobody notices.
14:47
SPEAKER_02: Now, this source is highly credible.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
14:51
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
14:52
SPEAKER_02: Just point this out.
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SPEAKER_01: I feel like it's probably not.
14:57
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
14:58
SPEAKER_02: So according to casino.ca, annual ranking, you heard me correct.
15:05
SPEAKER_02: Casino.ca.
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SPEAKER_02: Very credible publication, I bet.
15:09
SPEAKER_01: So do casinos rank alien, is it like part of their betting system?
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SPEAKER_01: Like, nobody knows.
15:17
SPEAKER_01: Do people, are they like, I'm gonna bet$50 that there's gonna be an abduction?
15:22
SPEAKER_01: Like, is that nobody knows.
15:28
SPEAKER_02: But the former member of the Center for UFO Studies, Dennis Anderson, believes that the jump in ranking could be because of the number in New York, as you just mentioned.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I can see that.
15:42
SPEAKER_02: However, some people think that 99% of what people see is nothing.
15:47
SPEAKER_02: I can also see that.
15:49
SPEAKER_01: And you gotta wonder how many people are doing the drugs?
15:52
SPEAKER_01: They like doing the drugs?
15:54
SPEAKER_01: They could be seeing things in the air.
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SPEAKER_01: And then they're like, I saw an alien.
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SPEAKER_01: 911, I saw an alien.
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SPEAKER_02: I think it's New York, and a lot of people are doing the drugs.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm just throwing that out there.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
16:07
SPEAKER_02: I've never been to New York, but I would imagine a lot of people are doing the drugs.
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SPEAKER_02: Really?
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SPEAKER_02: No.
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SPEAKER_02: I just never had any desire to go to New York.
16:16
SPEAKER_02: No.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean, I've been close.
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SPEAKER_01: We drove through there, you know, once or twice, but I've never like I'm not a city person.
16:26
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I just don't.
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SPEAKER_01: The closest I've been is like New Jersey.
16:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, same.
16:31
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: New York's just never, you know, interested me as far as like a destination to go to.
16:38
SPEAKER_01: No, me neither.
16:39
SPEAKER_01: I'm not like a Broadway person or anything like that.
16:43
SPEAKER_01: There's nothing there that I'm like, I have to go.
16:46
SPEAKER_01: Just like I don't know.
16:47
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I'm sure there are things there.
16:50
SPEAKER_01: I'm sure interest me.
16:51
SPEAKER_02: Like the world's best cup of coffee.
16:54
SPEAKER_01: Free candy.
16:56
unknown: Thank you for touching that.
17:00
SPEAKER_01: Or the world's best pizza.
17:03
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
17:04
SPEAKER_01: But other than that.
17:06
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
17:06
SPEAKER_01: And so many of them have moved to Florida that I feel like you can get the same pizza in Florida now.
17:12
SPEAKER_01: Or bagels.
17:13
SPEAKER_01: Or bagels, yeah.
17:15
SPEAKER_02: Anyways.
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SPEAKER_02: Most people don't know what they're looking at, um, which I believe.
17:21
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
17:21
SPEAKER_02: I believe they're not used to looking up or stargazing, and there is a lot of light pollution in the city, and objects are often mistaken for UFOs, which I can also believe.
17:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
17:31
SPEAKER_02: So according to the site, the top five places to possibly get abducted are number one, Delaware.
17:41
SPEAKER_02: What?
17:42
SPEAKER_01: Delaware's number one.
17:44
SPEAKER_01: Delaware by the water, maybe?
17:46
SPEAKER_01: Maybe.
17:47
SPEAKER_01: Is it easier to just like lure people out of the water?
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SPEAKER_02: Number two, Washington.
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SPEAKER_02: State.
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SPEAKER_02: Yes.
17:59
SPEAKER_02: Oh.
18:00
SPEAKER_02: You can see I could see that.
18:02
SPEAKER_02: I could see that.
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SPEAKER_01: The mountains and everything.
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SPEAKER_01: I could I could see that.
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SPEAKER_02: Three, New York.
18:07
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
18:08
SPEAKER_01: Four, New Mexico.
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SPEAKER_02: Oregon.
18:10
SPEAKER_01: Really?
18:11
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but you could kind of see that.
18:13
SPEAKER_01: Well, because Washington.
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SPEAKER_02: Washington's similar.
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SPEAKER_02: That's more like Sasquatch territory.
18:19
SPEAKER_02: Well, I mean falls right align.
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SPEAKER_01: Maybe.
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SPEAKER_02: Number five.
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SPEAKER_02: Mexico.
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SPEAKER_02: Florida.
18:27
SPEAKER_01: What?
18:28
SPEAKER_01: We are number five.
18:29
SPEAKER_01: Again with the water.
18:31
SPEAKER_01: I bet you aliens have like water craft.
18:34
SPEAKER_01: They're like, well, have you seen the videos of them of like stuff coming out of the ocean?
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SPEAKER_02: And then they're like with the lights and things and the things.
18:43
SPEAKER_02: So we can't.
18:43
SPEAKER_02: You get to see all of our little things now being on video.
18:46
SPEAKER_01: Right.
18:46
SPEAKER_01: We have had a couple of earthquakes off the coast of Florida recently, which is weird.
18:54
SPEAKER_01: Just kind of scary.
18:55
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
18:56
SPEAKER_01: And they claim that it's like military stuff because you know Jacksonville is just to the north of us.
19:02
SPEAKER_02: But it's aliens.
19:03
SPEAKER_02: Aliens.
19:04
SPEAKER_02: I mean, with all the UFO files coming out now.
19:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
19:07
SPEAKER_02: Aliens.
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SPEAKER_02: Aliens.
19:09
SPEAKER_02: Do you know the least likely state to be abducted?
19:12
SPEAKER_02: New Mexico.
19:14
SPEAKER_02: Again with this New Mexico thing.
19:16
SPEAKER_01: Louisiana.
19:18
SPEAKER_01: Oh, nobody wants anyone from Louisiana.
19:20
SPEAKER_02: They have the fewest reported sightings in the nation.
19:23
SPEAKER_02: They're like, those people are with people from Louisiana.
19:28
SPEAKER_02: They got enough going on.
19:29
SPEAKER_02: They were the biggest.
19:30
SPEAKER_01: And they would not hesitate to, you know, yeah.
19:35
SPEAKER_02: Toot them.
19:37
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
19:38
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
19:40
SPEAKER_02: Now, there have been a few famous sightings in New York.
19:44
SPEAKER_02: Back in 1989, Linda Napolitano was supposedly abducted from her lower Manhattan high-rise apartment.
19:54
SPEAKER_02: Oh.
19:54
SPEAKER_02: From an apartment?
19:55
SPEAKER_02: From an apartment.
19:56
SPEAKER_01: How tall was it?
19:58
SPEAKER_02: Uh she was on the 12th floor, actually.
20:00
SPEAKER_01: Wow.
20:01
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
20:01
SPEAKER_01: So it wasn't like, you know, ground floor or something.
20:04
SPEAKER_02: No, no.
20:05
SPEAKER_02: Linda said that on November 30th, 1989, she was abducted by aliens from her 12th floor apartment.
20:12
SPEAKER_02: She suddenly woke up in the middle of the night and knew something wasn't right.
20:17
SPEAKER_02: She felt paralyzed and she couldn't call out to her husband who was sleeping right next to her to ask for help.
20:23
SPEAKER_02: Sleep paralysis?
20:25
SPEAKER_02: That's what I'm thinking.
20:26
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
20:27
SPEAKER_02: Linda said that she levitated out of the window on a beam of blue light into a reddish-orange oval-shaped spaceship.
20:37
SPEAKER_02: Psychosis.
20:40
SPEAKER_02: She also claims that they used her like a lab rat doing experiments on her.
20:50
SPEAKER_01: The probing?
20:51
SPEAKER_01: The probing of the orifices.
20:58
SPEAKER_02: She also claims that during her abduction, three gray creatures examined her stomach and used a turkey baser size needle on her.
21:09
SPEAKER_02: Come on now, that's that's huge.
21:12
SPEAKER_02: I mean Where do they use the needle?
21:14
SPEAKER_02: If they did that, um there'd be evidence.
21:20
SPEAKER_02: There would be evidence.
21:22
SPEAKER_02: The next morning, Linda or they also put some strange metallic device into her nose.
21:31
SPEAKER_02: One of those trackers.
21:32
SPEAKER_02: Ooh, do you remember total recall and it was that huge?
21:36
SPEAKER_02: The metal.
21:39
SPEAKER_02: The next morning, Linda said she woke up in the bed as if nothing ever happened.
21:44
SPEAKER_02: She thought it was all a bad dream, but noticed a weird lump in her nose.
21:48
SPEAKER_02: After a visit to the doctor and have an x ray, they did find something lodged in her nose, but later going to and an ENT spectrum.
22:00
SPEAKER_02: Specialist.
22:01
SPEAKER_02: But all that was found was a buildup of cartilage.
22:04
SPEAKER_02: Like something was there and now gone.
22:10
SPEAKER_02: No.
22:11
SPEAKER_02: No.
22:11
SPEAKER_02: Did she get punched in the face?
22:14
unknown: No.
22:15
SPEAKER_02: Oh, I don't know.
22:16
SPEAKER_02: Shortly after her abduction, she contacted UFologist Bud Hopkins, who investigated her claims and actually found witnesses who allegedly saw Linda levitating in the sky.
22:29
SPEAKER_02: What?
22:30
SPEAKER_02: Now, I'm sorry.
22:31
SPEAKER_02: If I saw somebody levitating in the sky, what would your first reaction be?
22:35
SPEAKER_02: I would call 911.
22:37
SPEAKER_02: Call 911.
22:38
SPEAKER_02: And video it.
22:40
SPEAKER_02: It's 1989.
22:43
SPEAKER_01: Camcorders.
22:44
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
22:45
SPEAKER_02: Not everybody had.
22:46
SPEAKER_02: I guess we're 2026 now.
22:48
unknown: Sorry.
22:50
SPEAKER_01: 1989.
22:51
SPEAKER_01: 1989, Damien.
22:52
SPEAKER_01: We have technology.
22:53
SPEAKER_01: Like a camcorder.
22:55
SPEAKER_01: You had some money going on.
22:56
SPEAKER_01: And you were being probably, you know, you probably had that shit wrong.
23:01
SPEAKER_01: But um 12 stories up, like 12 stories.
23:05
SPEAKER_01: First of all, I don't know like what's in the air sitting on top of my house sometimes, you know, which is like three stories.
23:15
SPEAKER_01: Uh second of all, do you did anybody, do you remember um funniest home videos?
23:22
SPEAKER_01: And they would zoom in with their cameras and it would be really grainy.
23:26
SPEAKER_01: So even if somebody did happen to have a video camera in 1989 and they zoomed in 12 stories up.
23:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I feel like that's anyhow.
23:39
SPEAKER_02: Anyhow, two of whom were allegedly bodyguards of a foreign dignitary.
23:47
SPEAKER_02: In 1996, Bud Hopkins wrote a book about Linda's abduction called Witnessed: the True Story of the Brooklyn Bridge UFO Abductions.
23:56
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
23:57
SPEAKER_02: However, not everyone, shockingly, was convinced of Linda being abducted by aliens.
24:03
SPEAKER_02: And even though Linda went through several hypnosis sessions with Bud, it still wasn't enough to convince his wife and now widow, Carol Rainey.
24:13
SPEAKER_02: Carol said that when Bud died, she had access to all of the tapes he made when he put people under.
24:19
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
24:20
SPEAKER_02: Carol said normally people would sound a little drunk and seem to struggle a little bit when they were putting it all together when hypnotized.
24:28
SPEAKER_02: But Linda seemed to be coherent, to have a coherent story.
24:34
SPEAKER_02: Like she wasn't hypnotized.
24:36
SPEAKER_02: Carol believes that Linda told her son what to say when he was interviewed by Bud.
24:42
SPEAKER_02: So she has some idea.
24:43
SPEAKER_02: Like, hey, I think you should say this.
24:44
SPEAKER_02: Maybe we can make it.
24:46
SPEAKER_02: Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.
24:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
24:47
SPEAKER_02: And even though some people may not have believed Linda's story, Netflix came out with a documentary called Manhattan Alien Abduction in 2024.
24:59
SPEAKER_02: What?
24:59
SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
25:00
SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
25:01
SPEAKER_02: So if you're interested in the Linda Napolitano story, Manhattan Alien Abduction, just like two years ago.
25:08
SPEAKER_02: Wow.
25:09
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
25:10
SPEAKER_02: However, shortly after Linda filed the lawsuit against Netflix and Bud Hopkins at State for defamation, apparently it wasn't a good documentary.
25:20
SPEAKER_02: Fraud and breach of good faith were the claims that she filed the lawsuit for.
25:25
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
25:26
SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
25:28
SPEAKER_02: She also claims that the show set her up to be the villain for purposes of controversy and conflict.
25:35
SPEAKER_02: Again, not a good documentary.
25:38
SPEAKER_02: No, but I mean, if the shoe fits, I mean the story seems a little sketchy to me.
25:46
SPEAKER_02: Right, right.
25:46
SPEAKER_02: Linda died though in December of 2025, and her son John continues to stand by what his mom claimed, saying, I know my mother better than anyone else.
25:56
SPEAKER_02: And there's no way, I believe, she would want to make anything like this up.
26:02
SPEAKER_02: But did she?
26:03
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
26:04
SPEAKER_01: I feel like.
26:05
SPEAKER_01: Did she?
26:06
SPEAKER_01: If she was coaching him on what to say originally, chances are she did.
26:13
unknown: Yeah.
26:14
SPEAKER_02: Linda's reported accounter isn't the only one to note.
26:19
SPEAKER_02: In July of 2001, there was a series of unexplained orange-red lights in a V formation over the Arthur Kill Waterway near Staten Island in New Jersey.
26:31
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
26:32
SPEAKER_02: Over 50 people, including some cops, saw the 16th lights silently flying in a V formation for over an hour before disappearing one by one.
26:45
SPEAKER_01: Okay, well, that, do you remember it was maybe just a year or two ago those lights off the coast of, I think it was Delaware.
26:52
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
26:53
SPEAKER_01: Or did the same thing.
26:55
SPEAKER_01: So you know, I could stuff it's not an individual person.
26:59
SPEAKER_02: But I feel like stuff like that has been seen all over the country, though.
27:02
SPEAKER_02: All over the world, really.
27:04
SPEAKER_02: Maybe not orange, uh reddish-orange or orange-reddish, but certainly types of lights going blinking out one by one.
27:12
SPEAKER_02: I feel like that's been like over the desert.
27:16
SPEAKER_02: How many videos have we seen of lights going like that over the desert?
27:19
SPEAKER_02: Right, right.
27:20
SPEAKER_02: It is one of the most talked-about events.
27:23
SPEAKER_02: The local and national news picked up the story, and there was no real explanation as to what it was.
27:29
SPEAKER_02: Some say drones, which is highly plausible.
27:32
SPEAKER_02: Um, but it was 2001.
27:34
SPEAKER_02: So how advanced were drones at that time?
27:37
SPEAKER_02: I feel like today it's plausible because drones have advanced so much.
27:46
SPEAKER_02: But in 2001, I don't unless it's military, I don't think drones were that advanced to the average person.
27:53
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you're right.
27:55
SPEAKER_01: Um, hmm, I don't know.
27:57
SPEAKER_01: Like, that's not technology that I stay on top of.
28:00
SPEAKER_01: Like I thought it was cool, I don't remember what year, if it was 2019, 2020, that I bought, you know, my husband and son, the, you know, because it was so new.
28:11
SPEAKER_01: It felt so new.
28:12
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it could have been longer than that, but I think it was like 2020.
28:16
SPEAKER_02: But even then, watching them do it, but I think that's when they really became accessible to the general public.
28:22
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
28:23
SPEAKER_01: For the military, like they have like whole who knows what they have units or divisions that deal with operating these things.
28:35
SPEAKER_01: Well, we'll look at the war in the Ukraine.
28:38
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
28:38
SPEAKER_01: How many times you hear about like drone attacks.
28:41
SPEAKER_01: So, I mean, clearly it's come a long way.
28:44
SPEAKER_02: However, some people are convinced that they were way too synchronized to be a conventional aircraft, such as drones.
28:51
SPEAKER_02: And even though there were dozens of witness statements, the event was never publicly called a UFO incident.
28:58
SPEAKER_02: After MUFON investigated the incident, they conducted.
29:03
SPEAKER_02: Um What is MUFON?
29:10
SPEAKER_02: Do the Googles.
29:11
SPEAKER_02: Oh shit.
29:12
SPEAKER_02: Hold on, do that.
29:13
SPEAKER_02: We're doing the Googles.
29:15
SPEAKER_02: MUFON.
29:16
SPEAKER_02: Is it like an acronym?
29:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's an acronym for some investigation.
29:21
SPEAKER_02: Is it M?
29:22
SPEAKER_02: M-U-F-O-N MUFON.
29:24
SPEAKER_02: Mutual UFO network.
29:26
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
29:27
SPEAKER_02: Investigated the incident.
29:28
SPEAKER_02: They can and they concluded that the case was unidentified.
29:32
SPEAKER_02: Nothing, that there was no evidence of aircraft flares or astronomical events that matched the dozens of witness statements.
29:41
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
29:41
SPEAKER_02: The National UFO Reporting Center, Newfroc, agreed and said that the event remains one of the most frequently discussed cases in their archives.
29:53
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
29:53
SPEAKER_02: So if you're in New York City, don't get abducted.
29:57
SPEAKER_02: Don't get abducted, because evidently it happens more.
30:01
SPEAKER_02: They're gonna do some probing.
30:03
unknown: Yeah.
30:03
SPEAKER_01: More frequently than you think.
30:05
SPEAKER_02: You're in the third most state for probing abductions.
30:08
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I can't say that for certain, but you never know.
30:13
SPEAKER_01: I feel like if you were probe, there'd be evidence.
30:16
SPEAKER_01: Like your skin doesn't heal that fast.
30:18
SPEAKER_02: But if you're an alien, you can c make sure that you leave no trace behind.
30:23
SPEAKER_02: Can you?
30:24
SPEAKER_02: Unless it's like a metallic tracker in your nose.
30:29
SPEAKER_01: How did they get that out of her nose?
30:30
SPEAKER_01: Did they put it in and take it out?
30:32
SPEAKER_01: They might have a man of like visit her and like magneted out.
30:37
SPEAKER_01: No.
30:38
unknown: Who knows?
30:38
SPEAKER_01: That's nobody knows.
30:39
SPEAKER_01: That's a no.
30:40
SPEAKER_01: Like, I feel like there was something wrong with her nose.
30:43
SPEAKER_01: Like she had had like a surgery or something like where somebody had already done something to her nose.
30:49
SPEAKER_01: And so when they went and looked, it was like, oh yeah, it's you know.
30:55
SPEAKER_02: That I do believe because I don't know.
30:57
SPEAKER_02: Her whole story seemed fabricated.
31:02
SPEAKER_02: You think?
31:02
SPEAKER_02: Like, do you think I do think a lot?
31:06
SPEAKER_02: I mean, now the other one with the V formation and the lights, that one seems more credible because there was multiple people.
31:13
SPEAKER_02: But then you have these two chuckleheads that are security for a dignitary.
31:19
SPEAKER_01: Come on.
31:20
SPEAKER_01: I I think something might have been lost in translation with that one.
31:29
SPEAKER_01: They're foreign.
31:31
SPEAKER_01: Maybe well, maybe you're not going to be able to do that.
31:33
SPEAKER_01: They're like, oh yeah, we saw something and it can't, you know, and then whoever interpreted for them were like, uh, yeah, this is what they really said, and it just didn't anyway.
31:50
SPEAKER_01: I am okay.
31:52
SPEAKER_01: I am definitely a person that thinks there are there are aliens.
31:56
SPEAKER_01: Like we cannot be the only ones.
31:58
SPEAKER_01: It would be an awfully big waste of space, in my opinion.
32:01
SPEAKER_01: There's no way that there's just us in the universe.
32:05
SPEAKER_02: But do you think that they're friendly?
32:11
SPEAKER_02: When they ever disclose, okay, let's just say they finally disclose that there's aliens.
32:16
SPEAKER_02: Do you think that they're friendly or they're here to take over the world?
32:22
SPEAKER_02: I think more of the world.
32:24
SPEAKER_01: Over the years, depending on if it's the same aliens or different aliens, I feel like it would not be unreasonable that over the years they may have gotten more aggressive because of how they're treated upon initial contact.
32:46
SPEAKER_01: We as um as a world tend to react first and then question later.
32:56
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
32:57
SPEAKER_01: And so it wouldn't surprise me if I'm not surprised at all to hear that there's been, you know, multiple instances of alien contact.
33:08
SPEAKER_01: It doesn't surprise me if it's aggressive because of our initial response.
33:15
SPEAKER_01: Like and we immediately interpret that as a threat.
33:19
SPEAKER_02: But what about the ancient aliens?
33:20
SPEAKER_02: I mean, ancient Egyptians.
33:23
SPEAKER_02: Well, I mean, look at all they did.
33:25
SPEAKER_02: Right.
33:26
SPEAKER_02: I mean, that's pretty it's pretty crazy to think that they can construct those pyramids all by themselves.
33:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
33:35
SPEAKER_02: And what about the correlation of their pyramids to other civilizations around the country?
33:40
SPEAKER_02: Right.
33:40
SPEAKER_02: Around the world, I mean.
33:42
SPEAKER_01: Right.
33:43
SPEAKER_02: But then again, since then, look at how our response has shifted towards we've definitely become a more aggressive speech.
33:53
SPEAKER_02: See, back then it would be considered a gift or a sign of the were gods.
33:59
SPEAKER_01: Right.
33:59
SPEAKER_01: Or they were gods.
34:00
SPEAKER_01: And now they're invaders.
34:03
SPEAKER_01: So I I can see um that as the years have gone by, we've are aliens more of, would you say, are they more of a threat versus a absolutely at this point, I think.
34:21
SPEAKER_01: Contribution.
34:22
SPEAKER_01: I mean, like they're like you threaten us, so we react in kind.
34:28
SPEAKER_02: But look at the major advancements in technology that we've made over the course of years.
34:36
SPEAKER_02: I mean, there's been significant jumps in technology, it seems like we just now are there smarty people out there?
34:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, there's super smarty people out there, but I feel also that they have to have some basis and to propel them.
34:52
SPEAKER_02: Right.
34:52
SPEAKER_02: I think to get to where we are today and the technology that we have today is crazy.
35:00
SPEAKER_02: Do I think now that we're at a point where we learn much faster than we ever have before?
35:07
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
35:08
SPEAKER_02: I mean, look at AI.
35:10
SPEAKER_02: AI does video interviews now.
35:12
SPEAKER_02: AI will construct whatever emails you you need or generate reports.
35:21
SPEAKER_02: And I mean, that's kind of scary to think of where AI will be in five years, in 10 years, and 25 years.
35:30
SPEAKER_01: But I do also see why people are afraid of AI or dislike AI because um it really is kind of taking over everything.
35:44
SPEAKER_01: Like we follow a bunch of the um author groups and they're talking about, you know, AI generated books, AI generated artwork, um creativity is AI narration.
36:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
36:01
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
36:02
SPEAKER_01: And um the fact that companies that use AI, or not use, but create AI, are taking these authors' works and feeding them into the system so that AI can learn how to generate, you know, and now authors have spent time, you know, creating a novel or short stories or uh, you know, any type of body of work are being accused of it being AI because AI has learned from you know people from stolen work, you know, to how to do these things.
36:52
SPEAKER_01: And now they it sounds so human that actual humans are being accused of using AI.
37:02
SPEAKER_02: So I've been applying to a lot of jobs recently, obviously, with the closure of Spirit Airlines.
37:07
SPEAKER_02: And one of the questions that they ask once you right before you submit it is do you consent to have your resume scanned for by AI?
37:18
SPEAKER_02: You can opt out and it would send it to a real person, or you can opt in and have AI scan it.
37:25
SPEAKER_04: Right.
37:25
SPEAKER_02: Just earlier today, I received a phone screen from AI.
37:32
SPEAKER_02: Wow.
37:33
SPEAKER_02: It was 10 to 12 minutes, but it was an AI phone screen interview.
37:40
SPEAKER_02: It was the weirdest thing.
37:43
SPEAKER_02: I mean, everything that I've said, they summarized it after I said whatever question they asked me, and I gave my answer, and they summarized it.
37:52
SPEAKER_02: I was like, wow, this is the weirdest thing.
37:54
SPEAKER_01: It makes you wonder what they're looking for.
37:59
SPEAKER_02: I think it's because I've created, I've been using AI a lot to custom create or custom tweak my resumes to whatever role that I'm applying to.
38:12
SPEAKER_02: Right.
38:12
SPEAKER_02: And there's little words that they pick up.
38:16
SPEAKER_02: It's ATS.
38:18
SPEAKER_02: I can't remember what ATS stands for, but it's ATS format or something.
38:23
SPEAKER_02: And it's little words that they are programmed into whatever system that they're using to identify their keywords and pulling those applicants of out of what they want to hear.
38:37
SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's kind of crazy to think that that's where we're going.
38:41
SPEAKER_02: I don't think AI is necessarily scary.
38:44
SPEAKER_02: I it's definitely helped me in creating, be able to tweak resumes and submit job and submit to jobs or asking what role should I apply for today?
38:54
SPEAKER_02: What is out there?
38:56
SPEAKER_02: But I think there has to be some kind of balance to it, right?
39:00
SPEAKER_02: To the point where we're not necessarily losing jobs to AI because there's always going to be that human component that needs to fact check, um, not allow it to be so biased, because I think it can be bias.
39:17
SPEAKER_02: I mean, according to Chat GTP, I am phenomenal in any company would be lucky to have me.
39:25
SPEAKER_02: But is it biased?
39:27
SPEAKER_01: Right, right.
39:28
unknown: Right, right.
39:31
SPEAKER_02: Uh anyway.
39:32
SPEAKER_02: I don't know how we started with aliens and now we ended up on uh AI, but I think there is probably created by aliens.
39:39
SPEAKER_02: But I think there is like that correlation.
39:42
SPEAKER_02: I really do.
39:43
SPEAKER_02: I mean, how else would we get there all of a sudden?
39:46
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
39:46
SPEAKER_02: Could we turn into a Terminator society?
39:49
SPEAKER_01: Maybe a bit Skynet.
39:52
SPEAKER_01: I mean, if you have you never know, like any kind of insight into this type of thing and you can educate us, uh, please let us know because we love to be educated.
40:04
SPEAKER_02: Or do you believe in aliens?
40:06
SPEAKER_02: Have you had an alien abduction story?
40:09
SPEAKER_01: I think the majority of people nowadays definitely believe in aliens.
40:15
SPEAKER_02: Like I've never had an alien sighting story, though.
40:18
SPEAKER_01: Have you?
40:19
SPEAKER_02: No, I've never had one.
40:20
SPEAKER_01: But if you have, we would love to hear about it.
40:23
SPEAKER_01: Right, right.
40:24
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I feel like everyone is different.
40:27
SPEAKER_01: And I mean, we've been out, we you know, we do a lot of RV trips and we've been out in the middle of nowhere, and there are weird things in the sky, but there are weird things in the sky when there isn't any light pollution.
40:41
SPEAKER_01: Like, exactly.
40:43
SPEAKER_02: I feel like you definitely classic example.
40:47
SPEAKER_02: We were in Mount Joy, Pennsylvania, and we saw fireflies right around us.
40:53
SPEAKER_02: Right down in Florida, you used to see fireflies everywhere.
40:57
SPEAKER_02: As a kid, I used to collect them.
40:59
SPEAKER_02: That was one of the favorite pastimes, you know, when you're living in the country.
41:03
SPEAKER_02: I can't tell you the last time I saw a firefly in Florida.
41:07
SPEAKER_02: Right.
41:07
SPEAKER_02: But in Mount Joy, they were everywhere.
41:11
SPEAKER_01: And it was so it was so cute to see.
41:13
SPEAKER_01: And then, like if you go just a little bit down to Baltimore, you're you just don't see them because I feel like it's just too, I don't know if it's too populated.
41:24
SPEAKER_01: I don't know if it's again, it's just too bright.
41:28
SPEAKER_01: Um, but yeah, yeah.
41:32
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
41:33
SPEAKER_01: Anyway, anyways, that's our story.
41:35
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41:36
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41:38
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41:40
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41:42
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41:44
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41:45
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41:45
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