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Thanks for tuning in. Welcome to my underground
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studio. I'm trucker mouth and you're on
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the road show. Oh, man.
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How's everybody doing? How's everybody doing?
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Man, I hope better than me I'll get well.
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I was going to do that later. I'm going to do that now, man.
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I had a trying week, man. I had, I had, I had a sore in my
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leg. I was a rat.
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So I go over to the VA after a while and I said, I'm pretty
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sure it's, you know, Tina's ringworm.
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Lo and beholder go over there. He said, yeah.
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So he gives me, doctor gives me this powder, antifungal powder,
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this antifungal shampoo to use. OK, so I'm using that.
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A week or so later, about obviously 2 weeks later, I go
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back over, call out, make appointment, go back over and
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see the walk in doctor, same guy, Doctor Mcdonaghue, if I got
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the name right. So I show him, I think it's, you
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know, spread to my groin area because this, this, this
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ringworm is a spread. And he said, yeah, I see that.
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So he gives me more antifungal powder and cream.
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Keep using it. All right, keep using that.
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Two weeks go by, I'm still itching.
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So I, I called the VA up. They have like a, a care number.
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You can call it might like an urgent care number.
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I talked to this guy. I would do a video appointment.
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He sees it. He sees it down there.
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He said he sends me, he sends me this cream, this antifungal
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cream, the same as a powder, but it's cream for him.
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You put on yourself, OK. And I think they send me shampoo
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too. Yeah, I think you sent me Sam
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ships. So So I got antifungal.
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I got antifungal cream, which is the same as the powder and
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shampoo again. So another week to buy.
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Oh fuck, I can't deal with this. I went to urgent care.
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I'll get down to urgent care. They see me.
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They're real nice to me and everything.
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And what did they give me? They gave me topical shampoo and
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and powder. A different kind of powder, but
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it's antifungal powder. This is all topical so, so then
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she gave me something from my back and then something else for
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I felt something on my nose, very nice to me, but still still
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topical. So I'd go to the emergency room,
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you know, hell with all this, you know, I got this stuff on my
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shit. Obviously the topical stuff's
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not working. OK, I need an antibiotic.
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So I go to the emergency room. I finally got an antibiotic,
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terbinophene. Hopefully it works because this
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is terrible. Then I got a rash with my back
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then I had then I had the post pain, post pain postpone an
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appointment with pain management because they didn't want me
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there with this, with this, with this ringworm.
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Now I'm waiting months to get in there.
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I can hardly walk. I'm 280 now.
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I'm not bitching on on the up, on the upscale side.
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On the upside, I had problems with my car and and I was
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worried about that. It went for making a squealing
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noise, then we were making a squealing noise to rubbing, you
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know, full metal overnight. So I was all upset about that.
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On top of all this. Well, I got a hold of a guy here
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in town. I met him near a day for an
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issue and sounded Guyman Brothers Automotive there on No
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St. in Columbia, formerly Guyman Family Automotive, but the boys
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took over. They lost their father,
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unfortunately. I went down there.
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He told me, come on, Dad can come down.
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He didn't have nothing going in right away, You know, I told him
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what I had to work with. His name was Ricky, you know,
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he, he, he did me good. He, he put the brakes on.
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I had the brakes already. I had to borrow money from my
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mother to, to, to, to get it fixed.
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But you know, I only got 1 car and that's what we need for
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everything. So I couldn't let it go.
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And he got me in there. I told him what I had to work
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with, you know, and he he even left me money because I ain't
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going to think I'll leave you money for a case of beer.
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And that's the trucker Mount Dick if he was stressed out.
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But if you if you're in the Columbia or well around in and
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around the Columbia, PA area, you got York and Lancaster
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counties or just looking for a good mechanic.
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It's still under Google gunman family automotive.
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It's gunman brother's automotive, but it's still under
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gunman family automotive. Got good people, good work and
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very reasonable. I thank you Ricky, if you did me
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a good job and I hope he's doing good.
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Thank you. All right, so let's get to the
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let's get to the topic of the day here.
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Topic of the day is trucker's bottom line.
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You know what what what's your owner operator is mostly geared
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toward your owner operator. What's your owner operator, you
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know, brings home after, after everything.
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And he's got a whole bunch of stuff that he's got to shell out
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before, before he can. What is bring home is and it's
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mind boggling. Now, I know other other, you
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know, other other companies or other yeah, the things in other,
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other areas, they have a lot of overhead too.
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But this here is really, I mean, it's mind boggling.
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So these are prices right now or averaging NO553540 gallon
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nationwide, no gallon and these cats are filling up 500 gallon.
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Sometimes the time keep out from that one.
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So they said it's going to be 5 at least five hours a gallon
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until, until it beginning next year or until they get that
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asshole straightened out over just straight to her moose,
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which I can't believe when I say it's every show, they're letting
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that one area, you know, control the whole world's economy and
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mess people shit up. So they say by the by the end of
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the third quarter, the EIA, the Energy Information
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Administration, which I know we had one of them said it should
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be below $5 a gallon by the third quarter 2027.
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That's a whole long, long time for these people.
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That's a long time for these people.
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Shelling out fuel totals 50 to $85,000 a year for truck
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drivers. You're over a truck driver if
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you're if you're buying your own fuel fifty $85,000 a year,
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average of $45,000 a year. OK.
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So that's that's your necessity right off the bat.
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And man, that's just a whole lot to to keep back.
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And now I guess your leasefill company have a fuel surcharge,
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which, which a full a fuel surcharge is something that I
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guess the government mandates and you get it back or, or, or
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you can put it, I guess you get that back at the end of the year
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or, or, or it's, or it's taking off right away with the company.
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I'm I'm not sure how it works. I never, I never was in a rock
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barrier before. I always wanted to be as a
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little boy seeing the trucks on the Turnpike.
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I always wanted to be that cowboy trucker out there.
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You know, especially in the 70s, you know, in the 70s when the
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big truck and boom was all your truck and movies were coming out
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convoy and all of them, you know, everybody wanted to be
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your cowboy trucker out there. What's your cowboy trucker?
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It your, your, your lone trucker who's who's, who's going to load
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boards, getting their own freight and all that with their
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own truck, not least to a company.
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Yeah, that's, that's almost unheard of nowadays.
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That's almost unheard of nowadays, man.
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Everybody's everybody got their own trucks.
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But they, they released the companies.
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So yeah, then you got your truck payment or lease, which is 1500
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to $3000 on the average a month. So you got that a month, you
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know, unless you have your truck paid off or something.
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That's right there. So then you got your insurance
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and maintenance cost. That's 10 to $20,000 insurance
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and maintenance costs. Yeah, 10 to 20,000 a year
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insurance and maintenance cost, higher rates for new
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authorities. So if you're just starting out,
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your insurance is going to be higher, just like if you're a
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new driver. If you're a new driver, your
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your insurance rates going to be higher than than, you know, if
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you've been driving for a while. Mine are finally coming down.
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It's not having a whole car or a license for seven years.
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Truck them out. That's how I can truck them out,
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throw it off the road and give me a lifetime suspension for
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Duis. Well, traffic stops resulting in
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a DUI. And.
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Yeah, and that about killed me. You know, not not only took my
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license from me, but they took my trade from me.
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And when you take your trade from me, you can't you can't do
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your trade no more. It's terrible.
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It almost killed me. Let me tell you.
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I was thinking about bad thoughts.
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So then you got tolls and permits.
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You got all kind of permits. You got to have to drive these
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trucks If you're on an operator, it's it's just wow, the taxes
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and fuels. No, you got quarterly.
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If the if the tax got to pay that quarterly, it's an
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international fuel tax agreement.
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Got to pay that quarterly. I'm already I'm already out.
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Ain't no way I can do it. I couldn't do it.
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I guess a lot of these guys have garage or something due to books
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and how I don't or something I couldn't do what I'm on meals
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and lodging, so I only a couple only meals for sure.
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That's a big one out there. If you're a company drive right,
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your biggest expenses, your meals and sometimes you know, if
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you're parked somewhere overnight and there's I was on a
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the Home Depot account and a lot of times I'm Home depots.
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The only thing around was the Ruby Tuesdays, but that was like
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you had a Home Depot and a Ruby Tuesdays always seem to be in
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the same park as them, same strip mall as them, whatever we
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call it. There's a lot of Ruby Tuesdays
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there ain't cheap. But then you end up going in.
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OK, I can see AI can see a Hardee's or something about 1/2
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mile down the road. I'm drinking beer.
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But no, no, you know, you end up drinking there and you got to
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beat there. Oh, I already got a steak at one
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place, small steak because I was trying to save money.
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That one and all. That's it.
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I'm getting a big steak. So I end up spending $80.00 that
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day on on that steak meals and drinking.
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So I basically drove that drove that day for nothing.
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I drove all day long to sit in a bar for three hours, get a steak
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dinner and drink and drink beer. So I probably, I probably lost
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money that day. Oh yeah.
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Well, your transportation per diem is $80 a day now for
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another operator. And that's the way the
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government allows you, allows you for being away from your,
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you know, from home and working out the road.
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And they can claim by the end of the year, right.
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That's that's now they I heard that they took that away from
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company drivers for a while there.
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And if you worked for a company you weren't getting you weren't
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getting your per diem. The company paid.
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This company is supposed to give it to you and your checkers.
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I don't know. It was a big RIP off for the
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company drivers. And finally, I think they went
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back there. You can get you can get per diem
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now that's holding our show. All right, so and you got cost
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per mile of an under operator? No one cost per mile of an under
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operator. All in cost is about 226 a mile
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because that's what you're paying per mile to go down the
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road. Your break even cost is a dollar
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$30.80 a mile before paying yourself.
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Yeah, I wrote this. I just see my notes, but I'm
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not, I'm not so sure your break even costs $1.30 or $1.88 a mile
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before paying yourself. OK.
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Your average owner operator makes 50 to $1.20 per mile
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average net profit, $0.50 to $1.20 a mile net profit.
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An average owner operator driving 100,000 miles to 110,000
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miles a year. But that's low.
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That's like 2000. You ain't going to have an
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interoperator only driving 2000 dollars, 2000 dollars, 2000
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miles a week. He ain't going to make it.
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Ain't no way. So an average owner operator
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driving 100,000 miles to 110,000 miles a year, which is low, I
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said, netting an netting an average salary of 64,500 to
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$71,000 annually. So that's what they bring home.
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Sixty $70,000 breaks down the clearing, 607060 to $0.70 per
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mile. Where are we at here?
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I got to look back. See what?
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OK, there it is. All right.
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Then you got other hardships, other hardships out there like
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truck parking. I think I read or seen there's
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only one truck slot for every big truck out there on the road
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for parking, overnight parking or during the day parking.
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One in 11, one truck spot for 11 trucks out on the road.
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And then you got your detention time.
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You got put up with broker issues, you know, not brokers
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not paying you. Some of these brokers won't pay
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you or they're not paying you the whole rate emission regs,
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you know, buying death. There's an error thing now
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they're supposed to be doing away with supposedly.
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I've seen it. I read in in Trucker magazine
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that they're going to do away with with these emission
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controls with buying death. OK, I don't know what else.
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They're still going to be highly regulated on the emissions, but
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they're going to get away with the death or something.
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That's a good thing. There's an error.
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There's an error cause for for drivers.
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You got to worry about cargo theft and your safety out there.
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Cargo theft's a big thing, big time thing nowadays, especially
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out in California. Oh yeah, throwing up.
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It's big. That's big down here, too,
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everywhere. You got to watch it.
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You got to watch it nowadays. And then people are great at
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doing anything. And you got, you know, road
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construction, natural disasters, you know, fires, floods, you
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know, closing of interstates. If you're, you're out out West
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already, they close the Interstate down because of big
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fire, which we have every year. You know, you have to go an
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hour, 2 hour of your way to get to the same place you were going
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to go before because they got that Interstate closed down.
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Now, Yeah, you can't win, man. I'm telling you, a tire blows.
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A steer's $1000. A steer tire's $1000.
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I think drive tires are like 7-8 hundred.
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The steers are grand. Now steers don't blow much.
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I haven't seen many steers blow, but they do already go bad.
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The freight, the freight it is growing at a a fast rate, the
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fastest rate in four years. Manufacturing is up and the
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freight is growing at manufacturing is growing around
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growing at fastest rate in four years.
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OK, come on now. Yeah, So manufacturing is up, so
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trucking loads are up. And so where truck, truck rates,
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truck rates are up too on the price of freights are up, which
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is good for the, you know, good for the driver.
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But they were, they were way down for a while there.
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Now they're starting to come up again.
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That's a good thing for the owner operator and the company
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drivers too, because makes their company more money, so they get
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more money. CS Rollins expects truckload
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price to continue to rise faster than intermobile.
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So intermobile is your intermobile is your rail.
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You see, you see the trains with all the, the, the, the vans on
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them, you know 20 of them in a row.
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They're taking them, you know, from point to point.
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Then the truck drivers are picking them up in the yards or
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or the seagoing containers, you know, coming over on the
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freight. But all that freight or or by or
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by sea, that's all in their mobile.
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But Robbins expects truckload pricing to continue to grow
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faster than intermobile. Everybody wants to marry a
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dream. Everybody wants to be in their
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own company would would be an owner operator.
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I know I did as a little boy. I still do, but I'm out.
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I'm out and I'll be, I'll be 60 this year not long from now on.
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Everybody wants the American dream.
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After all that. Class A truck sales are up.
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Class A truck sales are up, man, even if they're all out.
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So when we come back, we'll take a little break here.
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We'll go compare trucking with another with another with
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hospitality, and we'll compare things and how they stack up
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against each other. When we come back tongue tied,
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had the damn time here, I'll know we're going to go with.
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Welcome back to the Roadshow with Trucker Mouth.
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And today we're talking about the bottom line of trucking and
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all the, a lot of the, a lot of the things that that I touched
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on that the, the the owner Opera had to pay out to run this
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business. Now I'm going to compare
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trucking within their industry, compare it with the hospitality
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industry, the bar and restaurant business.
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And that's their animal. I don't know about getting that
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here, but all right. So I'm comparing, I'm comparing
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that trucking to the hospitality industry.
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Both of them are low margin industries.
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They're both low margin industries, OK, low margin
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industries. Trucking net margins, we'll go
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to trucking first. Trucking net margins and what
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they bring home. Profit is 2 to 6%, OK, 2 to 6%
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for trucking and maybe if Martin's strong, seven to 10%.
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No, it ain't. You ain't going to see 7 to 1077
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to 10% net profit. I'd like to see it for the
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truckers, but that's not what I'm hearing.
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But in Downsight with many carriers may break even or lose.
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So if you had some bad times when the freight, the freight
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prices are way down and all that.
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Now these companies aren't looking to break even or he
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might even lose. So now the restaurant can vary
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your full service spots. For our restaurants, their
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probably margin is 3 to 6%. So trucking's 2 to 6% and
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hospitality is 3 to 6% now, while fast food now their
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probably margins are 6 to 10% if run well.
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So that's, that's an eye over there.
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Your fast food's probably more than higher than your, your full
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service bar restaurants are now. If you have a restaurant, you
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need to be able to serve alcohol.
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If you have a restaurant, you got to have a liquor license,
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you got to have a bar in it because these guys people want
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to go out, they want to eat, you know, drink a little bit only.
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I mean, I'm saying I know people in the in the hospitality
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business, you got to have a be able to serve outlaw at the at
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the restaurant. Yeah, you ain't going to make
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it. There is no way.
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That's why that's why most of them do.
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And the ones that don't are are known in their area.
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They have the same, you know, the same clients all the time
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and not clients, but yeah, same customers all the time and this
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and that. And then they're probably only
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open, you know, certain hours. Oh yeah.
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If you have a restaurant, you're going, you know, you're going to
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need a bar in there to be able to serve alcohol on point.
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Most times won't make it and then and then.
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But if you do have that, then in your state now, now the
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restaurant, the house town history, you're going to have to
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deal with the liquor rule, liquor license rules and regs to
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that state. Now, I know here in
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Pennsylvania, the Liquor Control Board, there's a whole lot of
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that. I mean, a whole lot of
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stipulations, like I said, that's the whole net animal
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there with this hospitality industry that rules of that
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state. So they got a lot of headaches
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on their own. You know, they got to, they got
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to, they got to buy their, they have to buy their their food all
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the time to keep replacing their food that their alcohol.
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I mean everything not because everything people use they got
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to keep replenishing so your turnover rates OK, your turnover
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rates for trucking is 20 to 40% in trucks company drivers.
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Now we get to the road it's a lot higher than that it's a
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whole lot higher than that when you get to the road drivers and
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your long haul drivers are 59% sometimes over 100.
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Hey, right here you have it. Your long haul drivers is 59%,
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sometimes over 100 because the the it's not what it looks like.
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It's a whole lot harder what it looks like and a whole lot more
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to it. Then not everybody can do that.
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OK, so the hospitality restaurant turnover rate is 70
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to 100% or more annually. You're always seeing new
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waitresses or new bartenders or someone new cooks at a
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restaurant bar always not now there is some places that keep
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concerned on like their own family working well, generally,
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you know, you go to your your tgis or something like anywhere
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like that, you're going to see new people all the freaking
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time. And that's just the turnover
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rate 70 to 100% for for hot down industry.
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Both come with thin margins of and risks are different, OK.
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Both come with with profit margins that are thin and and
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put different risks. Restaurant cost for restaurant.
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You got cost and labor, OK, hospitality more.
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You got competition with, you know, acts are very competitive.
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You know, the bar, restaurant business, the food industry, the
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hospitality industry are very competitive as it's as
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competitive as trucking. I guarantee you that, if not
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more. And then the big thing about the
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big thing about the hospitality industry is it's a cash, a cash
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business. You got to have honest people
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you have to or you're still in your blind, you're still in your
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blind. And then trucking, you got
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competitive through rate competition, through freight
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rates and reliability. So the trucking there's a lot of
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competition between you know the rates are charging and then the
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reliability of getting there and getting their products
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delivered. So truck company start-ups,
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capital costs steep. OK, truck company start-ups,
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here's what they got to do just to get started up costs are
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steep. Full service or steep the
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capital. The start of a truck company,
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the capital costs are steep. And then for the full service
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bar, restaurant or hospitality, you got more upfront costs and
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huge because you got the upfront costs are huge for start from a
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bar, restaurant, the building and everything and stock in the
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place and then and then the furniture, everything like that.
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If you're starting it up, you got to buy kitchen equipment,
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you get a staff and you got your lease for the building if you're
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leasing it and barriers to entry different.
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So there's two different industries and both of them are
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are are doggy dog with a whole lot of competition and may the
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best man win. You got to have a ninja on
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things. So OK, everybody, thanks for
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coming along on the road. We're truck around.
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