Latest / Yo Gavel Gavel! - Court TV Commentary / "He was chasing the phone"
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- 3:10go first. Render me Judge Render is a judge from UM, the brit
- 3:20brit Britain area. He's got that accent. He's wonderful. I love it
- 3:25um, and he's also just very funny. So Daniel is suing Shannie okay
- 3:32for twenty pounds, which is about twenty eight dollars. That's hip, yep
- 3:38for birthday cake and wine? You got they got a birthday cake and wine
- 3:42for twenty eight dollars English? Yeah, man, I tell you what.
- 3:46I tell you what. I don't think it was good wine maybe? Um,
- 3:50I mean even a cake and a bottle of Barefoot. It's gonna cost
- 3:53you more than twenty eight bucks. No, not necessarily a little cookie cake,
- 3:57but a little like a cookie. I don't know. We didn't see
- 4:00pictures of the unfortunately, see other pictures, but not of the case.
- 4:02Um. So Judge render Um starts this case off by saying, UM,
- 4:09when I when I get a case like this, and keep in mind I
- 4:12have dealt with cases including terrorism, money laundering, kidnapping, etc. I
- 4:20like to get in the right frame of mind. And he picks up his
- 4:25gavel and he hits himself in the head. That's Judge render Great. Uh,
- 4:31Daniel says, I met Shawnee. Uh has party? Um, why
- 4:35didn't you do renders British fort. I don't know. Uh met Shannie at
- 4:40a house party? Um, Danny was there with his flatmate. Um.
- 4:46Cats, Shannie and Kat get the chatting, They become an item. They
- 4:50start dating, and so Shannie starts, uh, you know, spending some
- 4:56evenings at the flat with Cat, Kat, the flat with Kat, the
- 5:00flat with Katy, Hey, cat flat with Kat, Sean and Daniel.
- 5:06They would not consider themselves friends. Okay. Now I'm unsure why Cat's not
- 5:14there, Okay, And I'm unsure why he's only suing Shawnee. But he
- 5:18is only suing Sean right here in this case, and here's the situation.
- 5:23Um, this is unimportant to the story, but it is. You know,
- 5:27you need to know more about Daniel. Daniel, he's an entrepreneur.
- 5:31He opened his own business. He's a naked cleaner. Say what, No,
- 5:34he's a naked cleaner and naked so he does cleaning in the nude.
- 5:40Yeah, so he why he vacuums nude? He uh does nude? Why?
- 5:46Um? He says, listen, you know, uh, you know,
- 5:49it's like a it's a it's a when you do it's just for funds.
- 5:54It's just for funds. No one, you know, no one ever
- 5:56accuses me of stealing anything. And it's you know, it's like a it's
- 6:00a novelty. It's like, oh, hey, I got my as,
- 6:02I got the nude naked cleaner, a novelty. So good for Daniel,
- 6:10good for he seems to be having a successful business. And it's his birthday
- 6:15coming up and he's getting you know, he's excited about his birthday. Um.
- 6:20Now, Judge Render asks him, Hey, did you and Cat have
- 6:26any flat rules about food and the refrigerator and whatnot? Did you and cat?
- 6:31You mean the fat flatmateca And he's like no, but we had common
- 6:36sense, like don't you know, eat each other's stuff, and you know
- 6:40if you you know, I just asked him, you know. So they
- 6:45had, you know, a good, good relationship. And so it's,
- 6:47um, it's Daniel's birthday. And Daniel gets you know, from um his
- 6:56other flatmates. There's another flat another flatmate. We don't know his name,
- 7:00but his other flatmate got him a cake and so he didn't pay for the
- 7:04cake himself. And a bottle of wine. Okay, okay um, And
- 7:11Daniel makes it known that these were the only gifts that he got for his
- 7:15birthday. Wow, the crowd goes, Oh, and he's a naked cleaner.
- 7:19He's a naked So the next day, you know, he eats some
- 7:26of the cake, he drinks some of the wine. He does okay,
- 7:29he goes on his way and um, I you know what, I apologize.
- 7:34He did not eat any other cake or drink any other wine. He
- 7:36put it away. He was going to do his own own thing another night,
- 7:41like partaking it. He liked knowing that they were there because they were
- 7:45the only gifts that he got. The next day, um Seannie and Cats,
- 7:50Yeah, have some friends over. They get drunk. They go into
- 7:57the kitchen, they find cake, they find more wine. I mean they're
- 8:03trunk, you know. And so they dive in to the cake and the
- 8:09wine and they drank all the wine. Man. So the next day,
- 8:18Daniel was not aware that this party was going to take place. Daniel was
- 8:22gone. I think he was working naked cleaning as you didn't know that the
- 8:26party was taking place. And he says, if I knew that there was
- 8:28gonna be a party, I would have, you know, made it clear.
- 8:31Don't touch don't touch the cake, don't you get close to the wine.
- 8:35Of course, but he didn't know. He didn't know. So the
- 8:39next day he goes, he opens up the fridge his only two gifts,
- 8:43and his gifts are gone. So he texts cats flatmate cat and says,
- 8:52Cat, did you eat my cake and drink my wine? Oh no it?
- 8:58Cat says, yeah, so sorry, I'll buy you two bottles of
- 9:03wine. She'll buy him two bottle, says that text that says that we
- 9:09see it. She does not what. He's so upset about this, he
- 9:16documented on Facebook. It's not as flatmate, and why is no one like
- 9:20Daniel? So everyone's jealous of is, you know, success and documenting and
- 9:30Shawnee's over there just being like, listen, I don't recall this evening at
- 9:35all, but I can almost guarantee you if there was cake, we would
- 9:39have eaten. I can't say for sure I did this, but it's more
- 9:46than likely that I did it if it was there. Judge Render asks Daniel
- 9:50how much are you suing for? How much are you asking for? And
- 9:52he says, I'm asking for twenty eight dollars the amount of the cake and
- 9:56the wine, so I can get myself another cake, kid bottle of wine.
- 10:01Judge Render hits himself over the head again with his gavel, and he's
- 10:05ready to rule, you know, as I don't know how Render rules on
- 10:07these situations. As much as I feel bad for Daniel, um, he
- 10:13didn't buy the cake himself. He didn't now, Kat promised him in a
- 10:18text message two bottles of wine. He's gonna get that. That's what he's
- 10:20gonna get. He's gonna get two bottles of wine or the cost of that.
- 10:24That's what he's gonna get. Render. Tell me, I'm right render,
- 10:30Render is gonna give him the money? It's twenty pounds treat yourself.
- 10:35That's Judge. How dare you? I love Judge Render? He's great,
- 10:39he asked great questions, his accents wonderful. Come on, I think he's
- 10:43on the brit Box. Brit Box is where you check him out? I
- 10:46guess so. Britt Box is a box subscription. Do you have a brit
- 10:50Box? Of course? Can we get one? What about render? Just
- 10:52for Judge Render? Yes? How much money do you think we have?
- 10:56How much money do you think brit boxes more than I'm with to pay just
- 11:01for Judge Render? What if it's what if there's a free trial and we
- 11:03can keep free trial in it? Yeah? We got email dress? Well,
- 11:07yes we do. I just meant we can binge seven day free trial
- 11:11okay? Um? And then it's it's six ninety nine a month or sixty
- 11:15nine dollars to the year giving brit Box. We're you're giving it away.
- 11:18How about I tell you about not BritBox, but Boss Ross about I love
- 11:24Boss Ross is here. This is a season one episode of Boss Ross.
- 11:28Okay, which means unfortunately, in season one at least when this episode was
- 11:31taped he does not do the thing you depute Thomas. He just says,
- 11:37thank you, Deputy Thomas. Just normally. It's kind of a disappointment and
- 11:41a big disappointment. He also doesn't say justice. He wants it to be
- 11:43a foreign concept. The narrator just says he rules with fairness and compassion.
- 11:48That's what it says. So it's a weird world we're living in. Um,
- 11:52this is good television. You on your phone? Are you into the
- 11:54brit box? Yeah, I'm trying to find out if if he's on it.
- 11:58If he's on it, he's on it. Seems important. Let me
- 12:01introduce you don't want to give people. Katherine Hogan and Arnold Sullivan. Those
- 12:05are are two that we're going to be talking about today. Now. Catherine
- 12:11is suing Arnold Sullivan for five hundred and fifty dollars. Arnold is countersuing for
- 12:16five thousand dollars in harassment charges. Five thousand and forty two, five thousand
- 12:24dollars five What was the first five fifty, five hundred and fifty dollars total
- 12:30she's suing. He's say five much more, five large five k is what
- 12:37he's countersuing for Catherine. I thought for sure that though she'd be suing you
- 12:41for no, no, no, no, no, the counter the countersuit
- 12:46is a cool ten times what the suit is for. So Catherine starts and
- 12:50says, I'm in college. I have a younger sister named Rachel. I
- 12:54found out that her and Arnold were dating, and they're four years apart.
- 12:58She still in high school, Arnold was in college. It was a little
- 13:03weird creepy, but I didn't push it. I didn't know Arnold's super well,
- 13:05but I kind of knew him. Um and what how how Old was
- 13:09the sister. The best that I can gather is it's like a seventeen to
- 13:15twenty one situation. But she saw in high school. Yes, so maybe
- 13:18eighteen, maybe eighteen. We don't know, we're gonna we're gonna hope four
- 13:22years ago. Let's hope for eighteen, four years apart. So, um,
- 13:26he's in college, blah blah blah. So I was coming out of
- 13:30college one day, coming out of school, it's what she says, of
- 13:33course, And there was a parking lot and I see Arnold's car in the
- 13:37parking lot. I know it's his car. It's a very distinct car.
- 13:39No, Arnold Carl. It's the windows are foggy and the car's shaking a
- 13:45little bit in the daylight. Arnolds, We'll get to that. So she
- 13:50says, I approached the car and I saw through the back window that he
- 13:54was making out with another girl, and so I took out my phone and
- 13:58began taking pictures. I love it. This is good to my sister.
- 14:03Yes. Raw stops right there and says, uh, okay uh. He
- 14:09turns over to Arnold and says, so, miss Hogan here says that you
- 14:13were engaging in some activity with another young lady in the car, and Arnold
- 14:18says activity. Yes, I was talking to Tessa. I have Tessa with
- 14:22me in the courtroom. And Raw says, all right, come on up,
- 14:24Tessa. Her name is Tessa Lassa Reno. Yeah, and Tessa says,
- 14:31I was in the vehicle with Arnold. We were going through books and
- 14:33brochures. We were looking at intermural sports that Arnold would would like to maybe
- 14:39partaken, and Arnold says, yeah, I was a high school athlete.
- 14:41I really wanted to get into intermural sports. They were they were looking,
- 14:46you know, they were sitting in the back seat of Arnold's car, looking
- 14:50at h at intermural sports when when you were burning through turning pages it fogs
- 14:58up the car where quick, quick, so quickly in a real sports intramural,
- 15:05not at the collegiate level, just for funzies, intermural uh and Boss
- 15:11Ross calls that out. He says, come out, a car's moving foggy.
- 15:15Arnold said, no, no, no, no, I don't recall
- 15:18any of that being the case, there's a simple fix here, Dan,
- 15:20do we have the pictures? Son of a god, what are we doing.
- 15:26There's a reason we'll get there. So he says, okay, so
- 15:28you're you're just looking at brochures, so clearly you saw her taking pictures.
- 15:33And he said, well, the flash is what drew my attention. And
- 15:37Ross says during the daytime, and he says, yes, she had a
- 15:41flash on She's crazy. You're on her. She's crazy. Having a flash,
- 15:48she's crazy, she's during the day, she's crazy, does not make
- 15:52you crazy. She's crazy. She has a flash on her. In this
- 15:54she's crazy, you're on her. She's crazy. Multiple times I have taken
- 15:58a picture today and the flash goes off and he're like, why is the
- 16:02flashhot? It just happens sometimes so she He says, I got out of
- 16:04the car and demanded she give me her phone so I could delete the pictures.
- 16:11I didn't know where the pictures would end up, and I wasn't comfortable
- 16:12with that. What do you what do you mean? It's you We're looking
- 16:17through brochures. So we'll get there. Um. Catherine interrupts him when he
- 16:23says I got out of the car and demanded and she said more like guy
- 16:26out of the car screaming and yelling. And Ross says, miss Hogan,
- 16:32he's called you crazy, all right. Do you know what crazy is?
- 16:37Yeah, interrupting in Boss Ross's courtroom, That's what crazy, all right?
- 16:42And she's like, OK, I know he's he's still getting his footing.
- 16:47So he goes back to Arnold Um and Tessa speaks up, and Tessa said,
- 16:52well, we didn't see who was taking the pictures. We just saw
- 16:56a camera and an arm and the flash. And he got out of the
- 17:00car and he saw who it was. And once he saw who it was,
- 17:03then they started arguing. Uh, and she started calling me all kinds
- 17:07of names and this is her quote, not mind. She started calling me
- 17:10the H word, the B word, and a skank. So to Tessa,
- 17:17and I want to make sure we get this clear. That's horror,
- 17:18right, horror, yeah, h H H word would be ho horror has
- 17:23got a W in front, right, I would. I didn't even think
- 17:26of how I was going to say that she not know how to spell horror.
- 17:29But more importantly than that, the H word is closer to the B
- 17:32word than skank, clearly because she said the word skank. She said the
- 17:36H word, the B word stank. That's the thing she was calling her.
- 17:41That's what she says. And I got offended by that because she doesn't
- 17:45even know me. That's what she said, H word, B word sank.
- 17:48She doesn't even know me, so he's trying to calm her down.
- 17:51I never got out of the car, and I just I was front of
- 17:52the record. I do know how to spell. I forgot. I forgot
- 17:55how you do mostly buying large Johana spell uh. I mean, I have
- 18:00my errors, but I definitely say you have everything's in front of you.
- 18:07She said, I never got out of the car. I stayed in the
- 18:11car because I was scared she was going to do something. Um So then
- 18:15ball Schross goes, okay, well, I have two questions one, Arnold,
- 18:19why did you try to take the phone away from someone that you believe
- 18:22is crazy? Why would you do that? Why would you do if you
- 18:25think she's crazy? Why are you trying to take the phone away? He
- 18:26says, I didn't want those pictures going anywhere, and Ross says, why
- 18:30not? Why not? If you're not doing anything wrong, you're looking at
- 18:33brochures for intramurals. There's no reason to take the phone from her. Why
- 18:38why not just talk to her about it? Why? I just could have
- 18:41helped him get recruited by one of the inter remember, and he said.
- 18:45Arnold says, I just didn't want pictures to be taken. I just him
- 18:48very I feel very strongly about that. Uh she and then he says,
- 18:51okay, so what happened after that with the phone still not broken? And
- 18:53he says, well, she kept backing away from me, and I approached
- 18:59her and she ran away, so I chased after her. Okay, bas
- 19:03Ross goes, Okay, so now you're chasing a crazy woman. You think
- 19:07this woman is crazy and harassing you, and so your response is to chase
- 19:12her, not because the pictures are a problem, but because you just think
- 19:17she's crazy. And you don't want those pictures getting out. You're chasing her,
- 19:21and he said, uh. Tessa then says Tessa pipes up Tessa lesser
- 19:27Reno and says, your honor, he wasn't chasing and she said, And
- 19:32Boss Raws says he can speak for himself. He's a grown man. And
- 19:36she says, I'm just saying he wasn't chasing her. He was chasing the
- 19:38phone. And Ross goes, he was chasing a phone, and Tessa says
- 19:47yes, And he says, now that's crazy. That's the thing that's crazy,
- 19:52is chasing a phone. He was chasing her. She had the phone,
- 19:56she's running. Phone wasn't running. He was chasing her. Go ahead,
- 20:00and said, this good testa stay staying in the whole time. It's
- 20:03great. So Catherine says, he tackled me to the ground and the phone
- 20:07broke. Oh gosh, and Ross goes, ah, there's that high school
- 20:11athletes. It's a great bit. Uh. He He's like, I didn't
- 20:17tackle he blah blah blah. He said, well, how did the phone
- 20:18break? She said, well, we were tussling at first, he were
- 20:22fighting. He grabbed my hand and the phone flung through the air. It
- 20:25broke and then he wrestled me to the ground. Can we just he was
- 20:30clearly making out a test in the backseat. Right this if not this,
- 20:37this is the overreaction of the century. Well let me throw one little in
- 20:41there for you. She in her testimony, says she was able to get
- 20:45one picture sent to her sister. Great ball. Shross is like, great,
- 20:48where's the picture? And Catherine says, I don't have the picture.
- 20:52He says, you know you're coming to court. You know this about pictures.
- 20:56You know you said a picture off. Why would you not bring that
- 20:59to court with you that way in your testimony? If you don't have why
- 21:02would that? That would clear a lot up? And she says Arnold began
- 21:06to threaten us that he was going to take action against us. He claimed
- 21:11that we had distributed the pictures everywhere. We hadn't. He was threatening us,
- 21:17and so I deleted all the pictures so he would stop bothering us.
- 21:21Here's my problem, though, Like, what even if what's his name,
- 21:27Arnold? Even if Arnold did do this, which he clearly did do this,
- 21:34who cares? Like? Who cares if they go on the like?
- 21:40Who does this guy think he is It's like a celebrity is gonna get up
- 21:44be on all the tamz sites. No one cares about you, Arnold.
- 21:48You're another college dude who jeated on his girlfriend. Big whoop. Rachel.
- 21:53Her sister's name is Rachel. Rachel broke up with Arnold. That is the
- 21:56end. Believe it or not, that is the end of the case.
- 22:00Wow. Balls Ross ready to rule, bos Ross ready to rule. Wait,
- 22:04so why why is he suing five thousand dollars? He claims she's crazy
- 22:07and she was harassing him, taking pictures of him while he was in his
- 22:11car, and she wouldn't stop, and that's okay. And then she's suing
- 22:17for five which is the cost of the phone. Gosh iculous. Intermural brochures
- 22:26get hot and heavy. I mean, I I do want to I do
- 22:30want to say this. If you are taking someone's picture without their permission outside
- 22:37of their car, I'm of the opinion that you know what like you're put
- 22:44it, You're you are agreeing to the risks there. Not saying that Arnold
- 22:48was in the right to chase her and to tackle her and to break her
- 22:51phone. I'm just saying you were taking pictures with your phone without someone's permission
- 22:56in the back seat of their car. You're you are then you know you're
- 23:00you're asking you're asking for trouble there. That's not, that's not. But
- 23:06Arnold's the worst because Arnold had all this time to come up with an excuse
- 23:11and he can intermurals. That's ridiculous. Give her all the buddy, and
- 23:18he his countersuit. Oh yeah, no, of course not. You're right,
- 23:22Ross says. The issue of your countersuit of harassment is it only holds
- 23:26merit if there's truth to her craziness, if you can prove that she actually
- 23:32is crazy and harassing you. The problem is is Rachel, her sister saw
- 23:36a picture and immediately broke up with you. So there was something on that
- 23:40picture that was worthy of her saying I'm not gonna date you anymore, which
- 23:44means there's no validity to your countersuit, and there is validity to the story
- 23:48the story even though we don't see the pictures, it's incriminating enough that she
- 23:52broke up with you. Your countersuit is dismissed. And here's the thing.
- 23:55Yeah, she shouldn't been taking pictures of you in the car. You gotta
- 23:57be careful these days everything on the internet, But you cannot chase someone down
- 24:03and tackle them to take their property away from them. That's not allowed.
- 24:07Five hundred fifty dollars for the plain. If that's the end of all ballsh
- 24:11raw, I just I can't believe that there are pictures of Arnold's looking at
- 24:15brochures on the internet. Internet. Arnold is in the right here, he
- 24:21was He was wrong that you are looking through brochure. Arnold's like some sort
- 24:30of nerd, such an intermural's nerd. That's the most ridiculous excuse in the
- 24:37old. The best part is is the dumbest person in the court rooms,
- 24:40Tessa Less, who's not only backing this guy's intermurals play, but is also
- 24:45saying that he was chasing a phone. You know, they like they met
- 24:48and they like, how how do we how? What it was? What
- 24:51if we did? It was colleges brochures? Boy Like, even just saying
- 25:00like we were in the back seat and we were talking. It's better than
- 25:03interviews. Mesures is so bad it could be true. That's how bad it
- 25:07is. Those are hot man, man, tell me I'm not going to
- 25:12reference that code word again. At some point, unbelievable. Guys, Thank
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