Latest / Crime Stories with Nancy Grace / Teen girl lured by online sex predator, kept in cage, starved, sex assaulted (Part 2)
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- 0:05Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. A teen girl goes missing
- 0:17Speaker 1: and we learn the worst. We learned that she has
- 0:21Speaker 1: been held in captivity in a cage for over a year.
- 0:30Speaker 1: I Nancy Grace, this is crime Stories. How did it happen?
- 0:35Speaker 1: How did a teen girl end up being held in
- 0:39Speaker 1: captivity for over a year, being denied food, being subjected
- 0:44Speaker 1: to water torture, and, in a stunning, stunning blow to
- 0:50Speaker 1: Lady Justice, the guy who makes off with her, Michael Wisselovsky,
- 0:57Speaker 1: is walking free. I want to introduce to you Helly,
- 1:02Speaker 1: the victim in this case, the teen girl mother Shawn
- 1:07Speaker 1: up Burns, and her father Anthony Burns. Tell me about
- 1:11Speaker 1: the moment you discover, Heley, your little girl is gone.
- 1:17Speaker 1: It was a Monday morning and I went in to
- 1:19Speaker 1: get her up for school, five or thirty in the morning,
- 1:22Speaker 1: so it was dark in the house, no one else
- 1:24Speaker 1: was awake. I immediately knew she was not in her
- 1:26Speaker 1: bad What did you do at that moment? I started
- 1:29Speaker 1: searching other places in the house that I thought she
- 1:32Speaker 1: might have moved to, like the couch. What was going
- 1:35Speaker 1: through your mind? What feelings were pulsing through your body?
- 1:39Speaker 1: She has to be here, somewhere. She has to be here, somewhere.
- 1:41Speaker 1: I just have to find her. That was the idea
- 1:44Speaker 1: that she had left, or that she wasn't here, never
- 1:47Speaker 1: even crossed my mind. And then after searching every square
- 1:51Speaker 1: into the house and establishing that she wasn't here, that's
- 1:54Speaker 1: when I woke my husband up and I came into
- 1:57Speaker 1: our bedroom and I said, Tony, Haley's not here to
- 2:00Speaker 1: Anthony Burns, this is Haley's dad. Do you remember that
- 2:04Speaker 1: moment that Shanna comes out. I'm sure it's still dark,
- 2:07Speaker 1: probably getting now around six six fifteen. What happened in
- 2:10Speaker 1: your mind? What's your recollection? I? Um, you know, even
- 2:14Speaker 1: sitting here right now, I'm tearing up a little bit, Nancy,
- 2:17Speaker 1: because um, as a parent, you know, you know my
- 2:20Speaker 1: daughter never tried to run away before, or never been
- 2:23Speaker 1: lured away before. It's a better way to put it, um,
- 2:26Speaker 1: you know, as soon as my wife, I'm so glad
- 2:29Speaker 1: you just said that. That's got to be clear. This
- 2:34Speaker 1: child did not run away. It is away. It is
- 2:39Speaker 1: she was lured by an online predator. She is a
- 2:44Speaker 1: child in the eyes of the law. What went through
- 2:49Speaker 1: your mind, Anthony. I ran out of bed and I
- 2:53Speaker 1: immediately went to her bedroom. I couldn't see her in there.
- 2:56Speaker 1: I was just kind of waking up, and I went downstairs.
- 2:59Speaker 1: As I went down, there's a look at her front door,
- 3:02Speaker 1: and the front door was unlocked, and it was a
- 3:04Speaker 1: little bit left adrift. And at that point I knew
- 3:09Speaker 1: someone had left through the front door. Either someone had
- 3:11Speaker 1: come in the front door or someone had walked out
- 3:13Speaker 1: of the front door. I didn't know at that point.
- 3:15Speaker 1: Take a listen to Aerial Placincia WCNC Charlotte. The seventeen
- 3:21Speaker 1: year old disappeared from her home back on May twenty third,
- 3:23Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. Her family told us then she has Asperger
- 3:27Speaker 1: syndrome and left home without her medication. Last year, her
- 3:30Speaker 1: family told NBC Charlotte they tried to limit their daughter's
- 3:33Speaker 1: use of the computer after discovering she had been talking
- 3:36Speaker 1: to strangers online. According to The Observer, Burne's father said
- 3:40Speaker 1: she left a diary behind that detailed a plan to
- 3:42Speaker 1: run away with a thirty two year old man she
- 3:45Speaker 1: met online. Her family says she did not have a
- 3:47Speaker 1: cell phone, but still they believed she was able to
- 3:49Speaker 1: communicate with someone and left to meet that person. Do
- 3:53Speaker 1: you believe that this guy, Michael Weiselovski was telling her
- 3:58Speaker 1: what to do, to dress differently, to act differently. Yes,
- 4:02Speaker 1: we know he was absolutely Yeah. The school gave her
- 4:05Speaker 1: a Chrome pad. She had an IEP, which is an
- 4:08Speaker 1: individualized education plan because she special needs. One of those
- 4:11Speaker 1: accommodations was she's never to be online unsupervised. And yet
- 4:15Speaker 1: she's still communicating with this grown man. She's printing out
- 4:19Speaker 1: pornographic images in the school library. Did this? They did
- 4:22Speaker 1: not monitor it like it should? How did this guy
- 4:26Speaker 1: find err In? Where? How my pro ana chap website?
- 4:32Speaker 1: It is a website for people that have anorexia, that
- 4:35Speaker 1: don't want to hide it, that don't want to go
- 4:38Speaker 1: get help for it, that want to keep their anorexia
- 4:40Speaker 1: and are proud of it. Well, and if I could,
- 4:43Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't that Hayley felt like she was anorexic.
- 4:46Speaker 1: It was that she didn't know what was wrong with
- 4:48Speaker 1: her and was trying to find discover through her own
- 4:51Speaker 1: means and self diagnosed so that she could change all
- 4:55Speaker 1: the bad things that kept happening to her. So she's
- 4:58Speaker 1: out in an anorexia support group trying to figure out
- 5:01Speaker 1: if maybe that has something to do with their problems,
- 5:03Speaker 1: and then she bumps into this guy who's in his thirties,
- 5:07Speaker 1: who has been in this chat room before and has
- 5:10Speaker 1: met other women, and has taken advantage of that relationship
- 5:14Speaker 1: by saying he's a mentor that can help them, as
- 5:18Speaker 1: opposed to someone who is going to then take advantage
- 5:21Speaker 1: of them, which is what ultimately happened, not only in
- 5:24Speaker 1: my daughter's case, but in several others. Here is Alisi
- 5:28Speaker 1: Lato's WSOCTV lawrence reveal the level of abuse a charlatean
- 5:34Speaker 1: endured while being held captive in Georgia for more than
- 5:37Speaker 1: a year. The documents day that Michael Wislovsky can find
- 5:41Speaker 1: Haley Burns in an upstairs bedroom of Histolouth home, telling
- 5:45Speaker 1: her that she would be arrested if she left. Wislovsky
- 5:49Speaker 1: reportedly controlled every aspect of his seventeen rold captive's life,
- 5:54Speaker 1: keeping a food journal detailing how many calories she'd eaten
- 5:58Speaker 1: each day, and withholding food from Haley if he thought
- 6:02Speaker 1: she'd eaten too many calories the day before. Doctors at
- 6:06Speaker 1: the Atlanta hospital who examined Haley after she was rescued
- 6:10Speaker 1: determined she was suffering from malnutrition, according to Warrens. Her
- 6:15Speaker 1: parents told Channel nine she lost fifteen to twenty pounds.
- 6:20Speaker 1: Haley Burns disappeared from her Valentine home in May of
- 6:23Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. This past weekend, the FBI responded to a
- 6:27Speaker 1: tip and tracked her to a home in Georgia. Our partner,
- 6:53Speaker 1: so tell me when you first got any inkling where
- 6:58Speaker 1: she was and when he first to her the name
- 7:00Speaker 1: Michael Wylovsky Sea. It was on June twenty three, is
- 7:08Speaker 1: about eight forty seven at night. Tony and I had
- 7:11Speaker 1: just sat down to watch a movie, and we'd gotten Showmars,
- 7:14Speaker 1: which is a local restaurant here in Charlotte, and we're
- 7:16Speaker 1: just getting ready to eat, and I got a Facebook
- 7:19Speaker 1: message from a woman I did not know in Romania,
- 7:23Speaker 1: and she said, are you the mother of Haley Burns.
- 7:27Speaker 1: And I responded back and I said yes, and she
- 7:29Speaker 1: said I'm in communication with her. She's safe and she
- 7:33Speaker 1: wants to come home, to which we had been informed
- 7:37Speaker 1: by the FBI to be very careful because people will
- 7:39Speaker 1: call you and say, I know where your kid is,
- 7:41Speaker 1: but you have to give me money. Psychic people will
- 7:43Speaker 1: try to take advantage of you. So I was a
- 7:45Speaker 1: lot more skeptical, let's say, than Tony was. Tony was like,
- 7:50Speaker 1: oh my god, it's her. They sent. She sent a
- 7:53Speaker 1: picture of Haley, and Tony was like, that's definitely her.
- 7:56Speaker 1: But I still needed more I needed. I said, ask
- 7:59Speaker 1: Kyle something that only Haley would know. And I have
- 8:03Speaker 1: a dent in my head from when I was hit
- 8:04Speaker 1: in the head of the hammer when I was a kid.
- 8:06Speaker 1: Very few people know that. And Hailey said, tell my mom,
- 8:08Speaker 1: she has a big dent in her head from a hammer.
- 8:10Speaker 1: And that is when I knew immediately that is my daughter.
- 8:13Speaker 1: And we it was like an old fashioned game of
- 8:17Speaker 1: telephone because Haley is chatting on a chat room with
- 8:21Speaker 1: this woman in Romania. The woman in Romania is on
- 8:24Speaker 1: a tablet with me face timing. I am on I
- 8:28Speaker 1: am communicating with my voice to Tony who's on his
- 8:31Speaker 1: phone with Pete, our FBI agent contact, who, by the way,
- 8:35Speaker 1: was at Disney with his family on vacation when all
- 8:37Speaker 1: of this happened, and he stepped up in the middle
- 8:40Speaker 1: of everything and didn't We felt so bad, but he
- 8:43Speaker 1: was so happy to do it, even though he was
- 8:45Speaker 1: on vacation with his family at Disney and then Pete
- 8:48Speaker 1: was on his phone with the detectives in Georgia, so
- 8:51Speaker 1: every question took five minutes to ask for them to
- 8:55Speaker 1: ask Pete, to ask Tony, to ask me, to ask
- 8:57Speaker 1: her to ask Hayley. So the process took a little
- 8:59Speaker 1: while longer than normal. But after about fifteen minutes, we
- 9:04Speaker 1: had established that it was Haley and we were then
- 9:07Speaker 1: just trying to establish where she was. But she did
- 9:10Speaker 1: not know where she was. She said, she said, I'm
- 9:14Speaker 1: in a brick, a two story brick building in Georgia,
- 9:17Speaker 1: and that's that's all we knew. Now everything's filtered through
- 9:22Speaker 1: the woman in Romania, so she's giving her more information
- 9:25Speaker 1: than she's giving us because she's just trying to be
- 9:27Speaker 1: quick about it. Oh, so we were I was asking,
- 9:32Speaker 1: you know, is there are there planes that fly overhead?
- 9:36Speaker 1: Is there do you hear trains near you? Is there
- 9:38Speaker 1: running water? Is there a local pizza place and he
- 9:41Speaker 1: orders pizza from that? Maybe there's a name on it.
- 9:44Speaker 1: And we were just frantically trying to figure out whatever
- 9:48Speaker 1: information we needed to find her, And ultimately it was
- 9:51Speaker 1: a picture she had taken a picture from her window
- 9:56Speaker 1: from where she was. It was a cross street and
- 9:58Speaker 1: I used that information to find her to Anthony Burns,
- 10:02Speaker 1: Haley's dad. Do you remember that moment you got the
- 10:05Speaker 1: text or the email, Because when somebody says it was
- 10:08Speaker 1: this day to eight forty seven pm, that strikes me.
- 10:12Speaker 1: I've never had that type of specificity. When I was prosecuting,
- 10:18Speaker 1: people didn't know what day it was, what month that was.
- 10:20Speaker 1: But you guys remember the exact time you heard Haley
- 10:26Speaker 1: was alive. Well, we haven't discussed the three hundred and
- 10:29Speaker 1: ninety nine days prior to this one. But when when
- 10:31Speaker 1: you get any kind of an egg of anything that
- 10:35Speaker 1: can tell you what happened to the one that you love,
- 10:38Speaker 1: then you you know it's it's an amazing change, and
- 10:42Speaker 1: it's like a new energy kind of came through us
- 10:45Speaker 1: when we finally had a relevant lead. And I had
- 10:48Speaker 1: probably given Pete, our FBI agent, fifteen leads over the
- 10:52Speaker 1: last three hundred nine nine days, none of them relevant,
- 10:54Speaker 1: and every time I would call them, I would say, Pete,
- 10:57Speaker 1: I don't think this one's going to be a good one,
- 10:59Speaker 1: but we should it out anyway. And this time I said, Pete,
- 11:02Speaker 1: we know where she is. This is actually her. She's
- 11:05Speaker 1: in danger, but we know, we know where she is.
- 11:08Speaker 1: We need to act now, and he acted during those
- 11:12Speaker 1: three hundred and ninety nine days. Did you think she
- 11:16Speaker 1: was alive? Did you think she was dead? Did you
- 11:18Speaker 1: think she was being held captive had run away? What
- 11:22Speaker 1: was going through your mind during those three hundred and
- 11:25Speaker 1: ninety nine days. I gotta tell you something. I just
- 11:28Speaker 1: had to go to La. I was working for Hallmark,
- 11:31Speaker 1: you know the Hallmark movies and mysteries, and they're like
- 11:35Speaker 1: a second family to me. But I've got to tell you.
- 11:38Speaker 1: I count the hours. I go, Okay, this is going
- 11:41Speaker 1: to be four days, and then I start back timing
- 11:44Speaker 1: the hours because I'm so miserable away from the twins.
- 11:49Speaker 1: What was going through your mind for three hundred and
- 11:52Speaker 1: ninety nine days, Anthony, I am. I pretty much fell apart.
- 11:58Speaker 1: I would wake up in the mornings and it's crying.
- 12:00Speaker 1: I would try to be quiet so that my wife
- 12:02Speaker 1: wouldn't hear me, or crying the shower and cry on
- 12:04Speaker 1: the way to work. I went through a very deep depression,
- 12:07Speaker 1: but I tried to keep it together as best as
- 12:09Speaker 1: I could because we needed to have something for her
- 12:12Speaker 1: to be able to come home too. So I went
- 12:14Speaker 1: through therapy, and I started working on myself. I didn't
- 12:17Speaker 1: blame the people around me. I started contacting involving the media.
- 12:22Speaker 1: One important thing, Nancy, that made this all the more
- 12:25Speaker 1: difficult for myself. About three days in Our trash day
- 12:29Speaker 1: is Wednesday. And this all happened on a Sunday night.
- 12:31Speaker 1: In the Monday morning. I woke up and late at
- 12:35Speaker 1: night on a Tuesday, and I realized that our trash
- 12:37Speaker 1: was going out the next day. And I looked over
- 12:39Speaker 1: at my wife and I said, the trash is going
- 12:40Speaker 1: out tomorrow. We should go and check it out. And
- 12:43Speaker 1: she said, there's nothing in there. You know, it's probably
- 12:45Speaker 1: not worth it. And I said, we should definitely do it.
- 12:47Speaker 1: So I went out in my boxers and I took
- 12:49Speaker 1: the trash can into our garage and I pulled out
- 12:51Speaker 1: all the bags and I found Hailey's trash bag that
- 12:55Speaker 1: she'd thrown away that weekend before she left. And in
- 12:58Speaker 1: the trash bag there were laws for interstate transport of
- 13:03Speaker 1: a minor across state lines, the ages of consent for
- 13:06Speaker 1: each state across the country. And I believe very strongly
- 13:10Speaker 1: that he had printed he had pointed her towards that
- 13:12Speaker 1: so that she would know what the penalties would be
- 13:14Speaker 1: if he was caught doing this, so he was he
- 13:18Speaker 1: was coaching her on how to leave without being monitored
- 13:22Speaker 1: or caught. And that's one of the reasons why for
- 13:24Speaker 1: three hundred and ninety nine days there were no leads
- 13:27Speaker 1: and there are no credible ones until this lead finally
- 13:31Speaker 1: came in. Seeing that, you know, I really believe that
- 13:35Speaker 1: was the Lord, because this is a funny story. I
- 13:42Speaker 1: had my grandmother's engagement ring, and that's what I wore
- 13:45Speaker 1: was my wedding band for a long time, and I
- 13:48Speaker 1: always kept it by the bad and sometimes when I
- 13:54Speaker 1: was pregnant, I couldn't make it fit on my fingers,
- 13:56Speaker 1: so I put it in tissue and stick at my
- 13:58Speaker 1: broad keep it with me at all times. Well, I
- 14:02Speaker 1: put it by the bed one night it was still
- 14:04Speaker 1: in the tissue. Went to our church in New York
- 14:07Speaker 1: and was sitting in the balcony, and all of a sudden,
- 14:11Speaker 1: I had a thought. We had a friend staying with us.
- 14:14Speaker 1: I'm like, Chris is going to throw away that tissue.
- 14:19Speaker 1: You better call him right now. I got up, I
- 14:21Speaker 1: walked out of church. I called our friend visiting Chris.
- 14:25Speaker 1: Sure enough, he had thrown away the tissue. He went
- 14:29Speaker 1: down all the way down to where all the trash
- 14:31Speaker 1: is for the entire apartment building in New York. He
- 14:36Speaker 1: spotted our bag. He found our bag, He found the tissue,
- 14:41Speaker 1: and saved my grandmother's engagement ring. Okay, just like something
- 14:48Speaker 1: got you in the middle of the night and said
- 14:52Speaker 1: go get that trash. But finding that did it relieve
- 14:58Speaker 1: your anxiety? Did you feel Okay, she ran away, She's
- 15:01Speaker 1: not been kidnapped and dead, She's run away. No, or
- 15:05Speaker 1: or did it work the other way? It worked the
- 15:08Speaker 1: other way, because I mean it kind of confirmed. So
- 15:11Speaker 1: I mean I I immediately went into kind of detective
- 15:14Speaker 1: mode because I knew that, you know, it wasn't just
- 15:16Speaker 1: about what the police did, It was about what anybody did.
- 15:19Speaker 1: And we were the closest ones and knew her routines
- 15:22Speaker 1: and everything the best. So I started searching through her room.
- 15:25Speaker 1: I started, you know, anywhere and everywhere I could find anything.
- 15:29Speaker 1: And I knew that that timing was important and that
- 15:32Speaker 1: we would only get one opportunity. And I guess I'd
- 15:34Speaker 1: seen movies where you know, the trash had been taken
- 15:36Speaker 1: and they just missed it, and it had that one
- 15:38Speaker 1: clue that it might have been the one to get
- 15:40Speaker 1: us there, But I think it made it harder because
- 15:42Speaker 1: at that point I truly knew an adult was involved
- 15:46Speaker 1: and that it was, And that makes it even scarier
- 15:49Speaker 1: to me to know an adult is involved. She didn't
- 15:51Speaker 1: just run out on her own. Guys joining me, Seana
- 15:55Speaker 1: and Anthony Burns along with Troy Slaton, California defense lawyer
- 15:59Speaker 1: Stephen Lampley detective as Stephen Lampley dot com, Ellen Kolorin
- 16:02Speaker 1: at crime online dot com. This guy, Michael Wislowski holds
- 16:08Speaker 1: little Halley in a cage, a cage for a year,
- 16:13Speaker 1: over a year, monitoring everything she ate, nownourishing her, forcing
- 16:20Speaker 1: her into six acts in exchange for food to Anthony Burns,
- 16:29Speaker 1: how did they find Wiselovsky? So when when the police
- 16:34Speaker 1: knocked on the door of the house after my daughter
- 16:38Speaker 1: essentially taking a picture out of the window to lead
- 16:40Speaker 1: them there, they they came knocked on the door. He
- 16:44Speaker 1: apparently had been downstairs drinking beer and playing video games
- 16:49Speaker 1: on his computer, and my daughter was on the second
- 16:52Speaker 1: story on a with a floor to ceiling gate, confining
- 16:56Speaker 1: her on the second story to get access to the downstairs.
- 17:00Speaker 1: And when they the police knock. He came and answered
- 17:02Speaker 1: the door, and they said who who are you? And
- 17:06Speaker 1: then they said are you here by yourself? And he
- 17:09Speaker 1: said no, I am here with my wife Alice. Oh
- 17:12Speaker 1: my stars, and so then I guess at that point
- 17:17Speaker 1: they said, well can we speak to Alice? And so
- 17:19Speaker 1: they went. He went to the gate and he unlocked
- 17:23Speaker 1: the gate and said get your get the fake ID
- 17:25Speaker 1: to my daughter and my daughter had a fake ID
- 17:28Speaker 1: that he'd given her that was of his ex wife
- 17:32Speaker 1: who who. She then took the ID downstairs. The police
- 17:35Speaker 1: then asked her who she was, and she used the
- 17:39Speaker 1: wrong name to the police, which immediately made the police
- 17:43Speaker 1: aware that there was something obviously wrong, and they already
- 17:46Speaker 1: knew something was wrong, but that just confirmed it. So
- 17:48Speaker 1: they separated Michael at that point took him outside. And
- 17:52Speaker 1: at that point my daughter then opened up and said,
- 17:54Speaker 1: my name is Haley Burns. I'm a missing person and
- 17:57Speaker 1: I want to go home. And then what happened? And
- 17:59Speaker 1: if my mom and I want to go home? Yeah,
- 18:02Speaker 1: I missed my mom and I want to go dad.
- 18:04Speaker 1: It was it was definitely more yeah, you get that
- 18:06Speaker 1: in there, Shawna. I miss my mom and I want
- 18:08Speaker 1: to go home. Thank you for moms all over the country.
- 18:12Speaker 1: It was mom for sure. You know my husband all
- 18:16Speaker 1: the time says, look, I get it, you're the mom.
- 18:19Speaker 1: I'm just happy to be part of it. And there's
- 18:23Speaker 1: nothing nothing like being a mom. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
- 18:46Speaker 1: When did you learn they found her? At twelve forty
- 18:50Speaker 1: seven h that night, So at eight no, I'm sorry.
- 18:53Speaker 1: At twelve fifty four, eight forty seven, we got the
- 18:55Speaker 1: first message twelve fifty four, Pete says, she's safe. You
- 18:59Speaker 1: need to to Atlanta. We have her get to Atlanta
- 19:02Speaker 1: because we were in Charlotte and they were outside Atlanta
- 19:05Speaker 1: and that's where they took her, was to the police
- 19:07Speaker 1: department in Atlanta. So we then immediately got in the
- 19:10Speaker 1: van and drove to Atlanta and got there by two thirty.
- 19:14Speaker 1: It is a three and a half hour drive and
- 19:16Speaker 1: we spent the whole way. But we got to this
- 19:18Speaker 1: tiny little police station. It's a small town, so the
- 19:21Speaker 1: police stations aren't open all the time, and they had
- 19:23Speaker 1: to open this one up specifically, like a police officer
- 19:26Speaker 1: had to come in his pajamas with the keys to
- 19:28Speaker 1: open this police station for us. And when we went
- 19:30Speaker 1: in and saw her. She just ran up and hugged me,
- 19:34Speaker 1: like she melted into me. She hugged me so hard,
- 19:38Speaker 1: and we were just overwhelmed with such sense of relief
- 19:42Speaker 1: and joy to have her back and to know that
- 19:44Speaker 1: she was safe. And what was amazing was while we
- 19:47Speaker 1: were there with her, all of these uniform police officers
- 19:51Speaker 1: just kept trickling in and trickling in, and by the
- 19:53Speaker 1: end of it, there was so many of them just
- 19:55Speaker 1: standing around, crying and just so happy to be a
- 19:58Speaker 1: part of having her come home to us. And it
- 20:01Speaker 1: was I can't even explain how amazing of a feeling
- 20:04Speaker 1: it was to hold her again and to know that
- 20:06Speaker 1: she was safe. Can you tell me what she endured
- 20:12Speaker 1: Sean during that time? The way that she explained it
- 20:16Speaker 1: was he was not nice. He was not nice. That
- 20:20Speaker 1: is that is how she explained it to us. And
- 20:23Speaker 1: in the beginning we had very little time with her alone.
- 20:28Speaker 1: It was there was FBI, and there was police, and
- 20:30Speaker 1: there was like detectives, and then there was victim advoicates,
- 20:32Speaker 1: and then there was doctors and nurses, and it was
- 20:35Speaker 1: a long time before it was just me and her.
- 20:37Speaker 1: And I looked at her and I said, you know
- 20:39Speaker 1: what happened, And she said, Mom, he was not nice.
- 20:41Speaker 1: He was not nice at all. And we didn't really
- 20:45Speaker 1: learn what had happened to her from her. It took
- 20:47Speaker 1: her a very long time to be able to talk
- 20:49Speaker 1: to us about it. We learned from the doctors, from
- 20:51Speaker 1: the doctors in the hospital what had happened, and from
- 20:53Speaker 1: the police officers and from the evidence of the house.
- 20:56Speaker 1: But we know that he raped her. We know that
- 21:00Speaker 1: he tortured her, he starved her, he manipulated her, and
- 21:05Speaker 1: secluded her from everything that had anything to do with us.
- 21:09Speaker 1: There were Haley and I are very close, always have been,
- 21:15Speaker 1: and we have all of these things that we do together,
- 21:18Speaker 1: like one of them was that we used to love
- 21:20Speaker 1: to watch the TV show Bones, because I love Bones.
- 21:23Speaker 1: She was a foster kid who grew up and did
- 21:25Speaker 1: good things with her life, so I love that show.
- 21:28Speaker 1: And if he knew about something that reminded her of me,
- 21:33Speaker 1: he would not let her watch it. He would not
- 21:34Speaker 1: let her listen to it. He would not let her.
- 21:36Speaker 1: You can't do that because it'll make you think, your mom,
- 21:37Speaker 1: you can't do that, because let make you can do that.
- 21:39Speaker 1: She was never allowed to speak of us he would
- 21:41Speaker 1: beat her if she mentioned us. She mentioned that she
- 21:43Speaker 1: missed us, so secretly, when she missed me, she would
- 21:47Speaker 1: watch Bones because he didn't know that I liked Bones
- 21:50Speaker 1: and that she liked Bones, And so when she missed me,
- 21:53Speaker 1: she would secretly watch episodes of Bones to remember that
- 21:57Speaker 1: there were people out there that loved her. Online dot
- 22:00Speaker 1: Com investigative reporter, What have we learned from police that Haley,
- 22:05Speaker 1: this little team girl, endured at the hands of her kidnapper, Nancy.
- 22:09Speaker 1: What we have learned is that this sick predator took
- 22:13Speaker 1: advantage of the very thing that he had met this
- 22:17Speaker 1: team through, which was a possible eating disorder. And what
- 22:22Speaker 1: he did was he used food to control her. He
- 22:29Speaker 1: forced her to perform sexual acts. A team girl forced
- 22:33Speaker 1: or perform sexual acts so that she could eat. If
- 22:36Speaker 1: she went past a certain calorie amount on a certain day,
- 22:40Speaker 1: then she would be deprived of food the next day.
- 22:44Speaker 1: He held her captive. As we heard, she was so
- 22:48Speaker 1: confined for over a year that when she finally was
- 22:52Speaker 1: able to get some help, she didn't even know where
- 22:56Speaker 1: she was. Neighbor said that they didn't even realize some
- 22:59Speaker 1: of them, that there were anything anyone living in the
- 23:01Speaker 1: home because it was drawn so dark, so Detroy s Layton.
- 23:06Speaker 1: How do predators like Michael Wislowski go under the radar
- 23:10Speaker 1: for so long? Nancy? A predator like this is so
- 23:15Speaker 1: conniving and is so smart and take such pains to
- 23:20Speaker 1: conceal their illegal activity that a person in a normal
- 23:26Speaker 1: neighborhood may not even know that something like this is
- 23:28Speaker 1: going on next door to them. And he was able to,
- 23:34Speaker 1: in a sense use the laws of the state of
- 23:37Speaker 1: Georgia to to inure to his benefit. What we know
- 23:44Speaker 1: now is Michael Wislovski, a thirty three year old man,
- 23:51Speaker 1: please guilty to first agree cruelty to a child and
- 23:57Speaker 1: interference interstate with custody. He gets ten years sentence, but
- 24:02Speaker 1: is now out on straight probation. He has walked free
- 24:12Speaker 1: on straight probation. The ten years sentence is to be
- 24:16Speaker 1: served on probation. Take a listen to Lauren pose in
- 24:21Speaker 1: and action used to Atlanta Macaebokowski wanked in to court
- 24:24Speaker 1: next to his attorney Thursday afternoon to change his plea
- 24:27Speaker 1: to guilty. The judge accepted it and ruled Rokowski will
- 24:30Speaker 1: serve ten years on probation and also gave him credit
- 24:33Speaker 1: eight months for time served in confinement while he was
- 24:35Speaker 1: in jail, But before accepting the police, the court her
- 24:38Speaker 1: testimony from Hailey Burns and her parents. A second I
- 24:41Speaker 1: left my home, my life, says North Carolina teen says
- 24:44Speaker 1: she met him online and disappeared from her parents home
- 24:46Speaker 1: in Charlotte. She told the court she was held captive
- 24:49Speaker 1: in his Duluth home for an entire year. Burne says
- 24:52Speaker 1: Rokowsky tortured her and made her do sexual things for food.
- 24:56Speaker 1: Her father, Tony Burns, told the judge every time he
- 24:58Speaker 1: would hear of a dead body, he feared it was
- 25:01Speaker 1: his Haleypas teach their kids to be scared of. Haley's
- 25:05Speaker 1: mom added that Bolkowski doesn't seem sorry for his actions.
- 25:08Speaker 1: You want not a minister because you're a pitiful man
- 25:12Speaker 1: who remember that actions have consequences. Now, after the hearing,
- 25:16Speaker 1: I spoke with the prosecutor. He told me Haley's family
- 25:19Speaker 1: they're satisfied with the outcome today in court, but they
- 25:22Speaker 1: really really would have preferred to see the defendant behind bars.
- 25:26Speaker 1: The ten years sentence is to be served on probation. Yes,
- 25:33Speaker 1: he's registered as a sex offender, but when has that
- 25:36Speaker 1: ever stopped a sex offender from re offending. Stephen Lampley
- 25:41Speaker 1: Detective Stephen Lampley dot com. I learned quickly. I didn't
- 25:45Speaker 1: need to look at a statistic to learn it. I
- 25:48Speaker 1: found out that burglars, child molesters, and sex offenders can't stop.
- 25:55Speaker 1: Oh one more peeping tom's. They can't stop. Now. I
- 25:58Speaker 1: don't know why. I'm not a shrink, but I can
- 26:00Speaker 1: tell you they don't stop. They don't stop until they're
- 26:04Speaker 1: six feet under. So this guy, Michael Wizawowski, thanks judge,
- 26:11Speaker 1: is going to reoffend. I just don't know how, when,
- 26:14Speaker 1: or where, but he is going to reoffend Nancy. That's
- 26:18Speaker 1: that's correct. I learned early on when we started this
- 26:21Speaker 1: new undercover division to work pedophiles. I learned early on
- 26:27Speaker 1: from some of the experts that you're correct. This this
- 26:30Speaker 1: is just my a a condition that can be rehabilitated.
- 26:35Speaker 1: Once you're a pedophile. It doesn't go away. It's not
- 26:38Speaker 1: something they can be fixed. It's not something they can
- 26:41Speaker 1: be rehabilitated. It's not something that's going to stop. It's
- 26:44Speaker 1: going to kind of perpetuate and continuing answer crime stories
- 26:59Speaker 1: with me. It's a grace. I can take joy in
- 27:04Speaker 1: one thing, and that is that Haley Burns is alive
- 27:08Speaker 1: and well and reunited with her family. Seana, how is
- 27:12Speaker 1: she progressing now we've been in therapy. We're in therapy.
- 27:16Speaker 1: She has three different therapists who got to therapy every
- 27:18Speaker 1: single week, and it is three steps forward, two steps back,
- 27:22Speaker 1: five steps forward, four steps back, but there are a
- 27:25Speaker 1: lot of steps forward. She has good days and bad days.
- 27:28Speaker 1: And it's been very difficult with the trial because it's
- 27:32Speaker 1: hard to have any closure until after the trial, until
- 27:35Speaker 1: after the hearing, until after everything's done. Since the last
- 27:37Speaker 1: year and a half, we've just kind of been in
- 27:39Speaker 1: window waiting for this. But now that this is done,
- 27:42Speaker 1: we can have closure with it. We can move on
- 27:44Speaker 1: and we all aren't like a big weight has been
- 27:47Speaker 1: lifted off of our family. So we're all in a
- 27:49Speaker 1: better place as far as like handling this. Take a
- 27:53Speaker 1: listen to victim Haley Burns speaking in court. So a
- 27:58Speaker 1: much time I tried to write this, it sounded melodramatic,
- 28:01Speaker 1: so I decided to stick to the facts. When Michael
- 28:04Speaker 1: Wislawski and I started corresponding, I was fifteen years old
- 28:07Speaker 1: about to term sixteen and vulnerable. I was physically unable
- 28:11Speaker 1: to process the gravity of our conversation, and he manipulated
- 28:14Speaker 1: me heavily, taking advantage of my mental illness to push
- 28:17Speaker 1: me closer to his desires. I backed up twice and
- 28:20Speaker 1: he bereaded me, pushing me to commit to him and
- 28:23Speaker 1: his idea of a life for me. The second I
- 28:25Speaker 1: left my home, my life was ruined. The first week
- 28:28Speaker 1: why Sulowski had me in his home, he did unimaginable
- 28:31Speaker 1: things to me and irreparably broke my spirit and sense
- 28:33Speaker 1: of self. This abuse proceeded for fifty six weeks. I
- 28:38Speaker 1: developed severe OCD about a month after why Slawski was
- 28:41Speaker 1: released on bond, an escalation from a previous minor disorder.
- 28:45Speaker 1: I checked blocks, successively, counted steps, tiles, items and numbers,
- 28:49Speaker 1: and classified everything and everyone I knew into safe and
- 28:52Speaker 1: unsafe classifications, hoping he would not hurt me again. It
- 28:56Speaker 1: took me over a year to partially recover from a
- 28:58Speaker 1: severe eating disorder. From severe eating disordered habits directly related
- 29:03Speaker 1: to his starving me and refusing me food, which went
- 29:06Speaker 1: hand in hand with my OCD. He lowered myself, esteemed greatly,
- 29:09Speaker 1: and led me to believe I would never be loved
- 29:11Speaker 1: or have a proper life if I gained any light.
- 29:14Speaker 1: I developed problems with intimacy, rejection, and attachment which goes
- 29:17Speaker 1: without saying, but I still feel me too mentioned. I
- 29:20Speaker 1: also developed severe fears of water, such as showering, drinking, rain,
- 29:25Speaker 1: swimming due to water torture, and fears of sleeping due
- 29:28Speaker 1: to being in the same bed as him. I severely
- 29:31Speaker 1: mutilated myself comiga would become unlovable so no one would
- 29:34Speaker 1: hurt me again as why Solowski did. I am permanently disfigured.
- 29:38Speaker 1: I also have suffered from deep depressions, lack of drive,
- 29:40Speaker 1: and an inability to motivate. I am now taking medication
- 29:43Speaker 1: to keep it in check, which for a long time
- 29:45Speaker 1: I was also phobic of, directly related to his tendency
- 29:48Speaker 1: to drug me. I suicide thrice since I escaped by
- 29:51Speaker 1: Silowski and I'm unable to have normal relationships without fear.
- 29:56Speaker 1: I am unable to navigate social situations due to how
- 29:59Speaker 1: he kept me from the outside the world and still
- 30:00Speaker 1: fear of human interaction sorry as an abuse tactic in
- 30:07Speaker 1: order to keep recomplacent to captivity. I cannot navigate retail
- 30:10Speaker 1: or even walk down the street alone without panic attacks.
- 30:13Speaker 1: This has inspired agoraphobia. Oh my stars, what that family
- 30:18Speaker 1: had to go through. This is what I know. According
- 30:21Speaker 1: to the FBI, an average child molester will offend two
- 30:27Speaker 1: to four hundred times before being caught. If ever, the
- 30:33Speaker 1: vast majority of offenders are never caught, so they have
- 30:37Speaker 1: no criminal record. And according to the FBI, only one
- 30:41Speaker 1: out of ten cases of child sex abuse is ever
- 30:46Speaker 1: reported to law enforcement. So for this one time he's caught, there,
- 30:54Speaker 1: according to statistics, have been other instances and will be
- 30:58Speaker 1: other instances. This guy is walking amongst us now, Seana
- 31:08Speaker 1: and Anthony. People don't get it. They don't get it,
- 31:12Speaker 1: and I didn't either until I started studying it. The
- 31:17Speaker 1: lures online, the chat rooms. Who would have thought this
- 31:22Speaker 1: guy was targeting her at school when she's on her
- 31:25Speaker 1: school chrome book after you monitor everything, so cut and
- 31:29Speaker 1: what And he was smart enough to do it on
- 31:32Speaker 1: the school chromebook because we legally we could never have
- 31:36Speaker 1: access to those records because they have to protect the
- 31:38Speaker 1: confidentiality of the other children. So yes, they absolutely could
- 31:43Speaker 1: have used that and they could have scanned it and
- 31:44Speaker 1: they could have found him. But legally he knew it
- 31:47Speaker 1: because it was public property at the school. They would
- 31:50Speaker 1: the FBI would never even have the jurisdiction to do that.
- 31:53Speaker 1: Can I just tell you that tonight, when the children
- 31:55Speaker 1: come home where the chromebooks from school? You know who's
- 31:57Speaker 1: going to go lock herself in the bathroom and read
- 31:59Speaker 1: every email that they've gotten. And that's thanks to Shauna
- 32:03Speaker 1: and Anthony Burns. Another thing I want to tell you,
- 32:06Speaker 1: and believe me, in the media circles, this is like
- 32:09Speaker 1: dropping a stink bomb in the room. Nobody wants to
- 32:12Speaker 1: hear about this, but I'm gonna say it anyway. I
- 32:16Speaker 1: believe the Lord brought you back to your daughter, and
- 32:21Speaker 1: I believe the Lord has a plan for you and
- 32:24Speaker 1: for Helly and your children. And I also believe that
- 32:28Speaker 1: by you speaking out today, thousands and thousands of people
- 32:33Speaker 1: are going to hear your voice and maybe it will
- 32:37Speaker 1: make a difference in just one life. Anthony, what is
- 32:42Speaker 1: your message to other parents that are listening right now,
- 32:46Speaker 1: listening to us on Sirius, listening to us on Crime
- 32:49Speaker 1: Stories podcasts. What have you learned? What is your advice?
- 32:54Speaker 1: What is your message? Thank you very much, Nancy. You
- 32:59Speaker 1: know I had a great life. Up until this happened.
- 33:02Speaker 1: I thought things like this just don't happen. You know,
- 33:05Speaker 1: you you live in a good neighborhood and you're doing
- 33:08Speaker 1: all the right stuff, and you just got to prune
- 33:11Speaker 1: your headges every every weekend. But the reality is everyone
- 33:16Speaker 1: is susceptible to this. It doesn't matter how careful you are,
- 33:19Speaker 1: how on top of things you are. If you're not
- 33:21Speaker 1: on top of things for one week and you allow
- 33:24Speaker 1: one of these guys to warm into your life and
- 33:28Speaker 1: separate you on any level from your child, then you
- 33:31Speaker 1: could be calling the media sitting there for three hundred
- 33:35Speaker 1: and ninety nine days not knowing whether your daughter was
- 33:37Speaker 1: alive or dead. And I don't want anyone else to
- 33:40Speaker 1: go through that. So take precautions. Know what your child
- 33:43Speaker 1: is doing, Communicate with them, keep a good relationship, even
- 33:46Speaker 1: if it's difficult and they not always are warm and
- 33:49Speaker 1: fuzzy to you. Don't stop trying to be an influence
- 33:53Speaker 1: on them and to use what you know to help
- 33:55Speaker 1: them be better. You know what, I'm going to play
- 33:58Speaker 1: back what you just said million times and listen to it,
- 34:01Speaker 1: because it is not always easy. Seana Burns, what is
- 34:05Speaker 1: your message today? To moms and dads hearing your voice.
- 34:13Speaker 1: My number one message would be that, like my husband said,
- 34:16Speaker 1: you need to love your children even when it gets difficult.
- 34:19Speaker 1: I have three kids that have special needs, and sometimes
- 34:22Speaker 1: I lose sight of the little kids that's in there
- 34:25Speaker 1: behind the bad behavior and behind the problems. You lose
- 34:30Speaker 1: sight of that little kid that still loves you and
- 34:32Speaker 1: still wants to connect with you. And that's the number
- 34:36Speaker 1: one thing is if you lose that, then they can
- 34:38Speaker 1: weasle their way in and then they can get in there.
- 34:41Speaker 1: So never ever ever let your kids distance themselves from you.
- 34:45Speaker 1: Stay as close to them as you possibly can, and
- 34:49Speaker 1: never ever ever let them feel that you don't love them.
- 34:52Speaker 1: No matter what they do, no matter what their behaviors are,
- 34:55Speaker 1: you always love them, You always support them, you always
- 34:57Speaker 1: have them. And if you're in a situation where your
- 34:59Speaker 1: child this missing, never give up. You keep looking for
- 35:04Speaker 1: your child. You search through every freeing Craig's lift back
- 35:08Speaker 1: page for months. If you have to define your kid,
- 35:12Speaker 1: you never stop looking. Ever, they could be out there
- 35:17Speaker 1: looking for you and needing you to find them. If
- 35:20Speaker 1: we had not found her, we don't. We don't even
- 35:24Speaker 1: the idea of what could have happened if that lady
- 35:26Speaker 1: had not messaged me, if that lady had not taken
- 35:28Speaker 1: Hamley seriously and that contacted me and thought, oh, this
- 35:32Speaker 1: is just a prank, She's not serious. If we there
- 35:34Speaker 1: was no one else that would have rescued her, There
- 35:37Speaker 1: was no one else that knew she was even there
- 35:38Speaker 1: to rescue her. Never give up ever, that would be
- 35:45Speaker 1: That would be it, you know, Nancy, One last thing,
- 35:48Speaker 1: I'm sorry. In our family, we have a mantram. We
- 35:51Speaker 1: believe in the mantra that the hana means family, and
- 35:54Speaker 1: that means no one's left behind. And you know, when
- 35:57Speaker 1: we got my daughter back for her birthday, we had
- 36:00Speaker 1: blessing of being able to take her Disney and to
- 36:02Speaker 1: go and see all those things and have this bucket
- 36:05Speaker 1: list of memories that we've never had. And that's why
- 36:08Speaker 1: you never give up. Yep, no one gets left behind. Absolutely,
- 36:12Speaker 1: believe it or not, this girl had the courage to
- 36:14Speaker 1: speak out loud in court. Listen to Haley Burns. The
- 36:18Speaker 1: psychological damage Michael Westulowski has afflicted is beyond measure explanation.
- 36:22Speaker 1: I trynot explain over a year of systematic abuse and
- 36:25Speaker 1: every neurological quirk it has caused. All I hope is
- 36:27Speaker 1: that it happens to the other innocent days. Nancy Grace
- 36:30Speaker 1: Crime Story, signing off goodbye friend,