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Yankees Loss, Cam Jurgens Trade, John Fanta Padres Interview · Not So Fast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Not So Fast with Andrew Perloff and Paul Pabst,
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  Speaker 1: where two longtime friends challenge each other on the biggest
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  Speaker 1: sports stories of the day. Here's Andrew Perloff and Paul Pabst.
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  Speaker 2: Not so fast, my friends. Welcome to Not So Fast.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Andrew Perloff. He's Paul Pabst. All right, Paul, we're
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  Speaker 2: weeding out some playoff teams. The MLB playoffs are getting serious.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, three teams going home. Guardians, White Sox later today.
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  Speaker 3: John Fant of NBC Sports will join us later today. Eagles,
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to ask you about your Eagles. Are they
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  Speaker 3: fire sale or is it just a trade? And Thursday
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  Speaker 3: Night Football, Bucs at Cowboys. A lot to get to today, bro.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we had a big argument before the show. How
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  Speaker 2: do we keep it positive and focus on the teams
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  Speaker 2: that are advancing? But you can't help but wonder about
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  Speaker 2: the Yankees.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the future of teams that lose, that's the big topic.
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  Speaker 3: Because the teams that are winning, we'll talk about them
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  Speaker 3: the rest of the week.
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  Speaker 2: But not just teams that lose. Specifically the Yankees. The
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  Speaker 2: Yankees losing, haven't won a World Series since 2009. Obviously
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  Speaker 2: they spent a lot in the history of... I just
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  Speaker 2: don't quite understand why they can't get over the hump.
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  Speaker 3: The Yankees have won one World Series in the past
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  Speaker 3: 25 years. For many franchises, you'd sign up for that. Like,
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  Speaker 3: one out of 25? Sign me up. But I think
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  Speaker 3: it's time, and I'm not hot-taking here, for Aaron Boone
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  Speaker 3: to go. It's almost like a situation where he's had
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  Speaker 3: eight seasons, going on nine seasons, where he hasn't made
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  Speaker 3: them better. And they spend. It feels like almost anybody
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  Speaker 3: with this roster could pull this off. Look, loss, loss, loss.
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  Speaker 3: Doesn't really matter what you put up there. They've had
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  Speaker 3: Aaron Judge. They've spent on different people. And you can't
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  Speaker 3: blame injuries when you have that type of roster. It
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  Speaker 3: might be a firing, not personal, but for the sake
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  Speaker 3: of just shaking things up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, listen, he's a good employee. It's an
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  Speaker 2: analytics run team and he does what the analytics people want.
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  Speaker 3: What does that mean, analytics run?
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  Speaker 2: So there's somebody, a nerd in the front office, they're
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  Speaker 2: always called nerds in baseball, who looks at the matchups
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  Speaker 2: and says, this is what you should do as a manager,
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  Speaker 2: and Boone is taking direction.
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  Speaker 3: So he is a good employee following the plan of
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  Speaker 3: the franchise.
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  Speaker 2: And he gets along with everyone, and he keeps the
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  Speaker 2: players happy. He's a players coach. So in New York,
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  Speaker 2: that's a big deal, because there's some big salaries, some
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  Speaker 2: big egos, and Boone seems to be able to work
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  Speaker 2: with them.
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  Speaker 3: So I have a theory on the Yankees and why
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  Speaker 3: Aaron Boone won't get fired. If Brian Cashman, the longtime
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  Speaker 3: GM of the Yankees, fires Aaron Boone, he's next. Because
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  Speaker 3: you get one firing of a manager, or maybe two,
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  Speaker 3: or many if you're Cashman. But if you fire him
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  Speaker 3: and they don't do better, you're next.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but why don't they fire Brian Cashman?
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  Speaker 3: He seems like a meritist there. It's like you walk
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  Speaker 3: in his office, there's rings and trophies all over the place.
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  Speaker 3: Not in a long time, though.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Scott Messina, our producer, had a good point.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes just changing it up can do wonders. Tom Thibodeau
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  Speaker 2: was fine with the Knicks, but then they get rid
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  Speaker 2: of him, and boom, they win a title.
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  Speaker 3: And that's the one that worked out. You can make
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  Speaker 3: the case, and I think New York fans will understand.
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  Speaker 3: Loyalty to Boone, those days are over.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I think New York fans want Boone gone.
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  Speaker 2: But the team, and one more thing, I said this
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  Speaker 2: earlier in the week, they're a family-run team. They're not
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  Speaker 2: a corporate team. I think a lot of corporate-run teams
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  Speaker 2: would have been five years ago gotten rid of Boone.
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  Speaker 3: Because they had no loyalty to him. But the Yankees
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  Speaker 3: hit 130 in the division series. Nobody showed up. Judge
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  Speaker 3: actually didn't show up. And the bigger picture is, you know,
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  Speaker 3: if you look at Aaron Judge, he's 34 years old.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 3: This guy, and I think Dan said it earlier, he
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  Speaker 3: may exit his career in four or five years without
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  Speaker 3: a World Series victory. And you can't be an all-time great.
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  Speaker 3: It really is akin to being a first ballot Hall
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  Speaker 3: of Famer or like at a quarterback without a ring.
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  Speaker 2: No, I totally disagree with that. Barry Bonds is the
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  Speaker 2: greatest of all time.
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  Speaker 3: Barry Bonds was a giant. He wasn't a Yankee. A
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  Speaker 3: Yankee retiring. Oh, I really think that's a caveat here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: The Yankees put everything in place to win. And Aaron
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  Speaker 3: Judge has done his part. But I think in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 3: I think he's a career 235 hitter.
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  Speaker 2: No, he obviously had that huge error a couple years ago.
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  Speaker 2: But I disagree with that. Baseball, we know one star
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  Speaker 2: cannot win a World Series. That's been proven time and
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  Speaker 2: time again. It's not quarterback.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Quarterback's different. And Aaron Judge can only do so much.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't quite buy that. I think Aaron Judge,
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  Speaker 2: because of the home runs, is still going as an
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  Speaker 2: all-time great. But you're saying because he's a Yankee— Yes,
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  Speaker 2: you have a different standard.
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  Speaker 3: They are really— Lakers, Yankees, you get a different judgment.
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  Speaker 2: All right, I will buy that.
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  Speaker 3: Here's what's going to bother Yankees fans even more. You
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  Speaker 3: guys spend like $ 300 million a year. Cleveland, Chicago, and
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  Speaker 3: Tampa Bay are the remaining teams in the AL. All
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  Speaker 3: three organizations are in the bottom four of baseball in
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  Speaker 3: team payroll. Sox are 27th, Tampa's 28th, Cleveland's 29th. Now,
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  Speaker 3: it's an anomaly. Those things aren't always sustainable. But that said, Tampa...
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  Speaker 3: They've been in the playoffs for the past six years.
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  Speaker 3: They're not occasional playoff teams. So you can win or
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  Speaker 3: come close to winning without spending in baseball.
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  Speaker 2: But you can't win a title.
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  Speaker 3: You probably can't win a title.
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  Speaker 2: You can't win a title.
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  Speaker 3: Diamondbacks?
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  Speaker 2: Diamondbacks?
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  Speaker 3: That's an outlier. It's an outlier.
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  Speaker 2: The biggest outlier was the 03 Marlins. That was 2001, right? Sorry,
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  Speaker 2: Scott was in my ear. That was 26 years ago.
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  Speaker 2: Now it's either a top five team or a very,
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  Speaker 2: very least. I have the numbers here. The 2017 Astros
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  Speaker 2: were 17th. That's the lowest in the modern era. And
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  Speaker 2: they were young. They were all about to get paid.
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  Speaker 3: But I think Cleveland, Chicago, and Tampa, they're going to
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  Speaker 3: consume each other over the next week or so. One
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  Speaker 3: of them would have to get past the Dodgers or
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  Speaker 3: the Brewers, whoever gets there.
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  Speaker 2: So it will be one team coming out of the
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  Speaker 2: AL with a low payroll. But odds are, if you're
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  Speaker 2: betting on that, you pick the high payroll team out
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  Speaker 2: of the NL, and that's probably the dollar.
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  Speaker 3: Now, should we do the argument we were doing this
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  Speaker 3: morning before we even got here? I said this is
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  Speaker 3: great storyline, maybe not great for baseball. If a Cleveland,
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  Speaker 3: a Chicago, or a Tampa Bay wins a World Series,
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  Speaker 3: especially Cleveland, look at the Indians to the Guardians. They're
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  Speaker 3: a feel-good story from the standpoint of the history of
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  Speaker 3: the franchise. Chicago White Sox are feel-good from what they lost.
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  Speaker 3: Tampa is kind of in that middle ground, and you're
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  Speaker 3: saying this is horrible for baseball.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I'll give you a choice. You get Shohei Ohtani
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  Speaker 2: and the Dodgers winning the World Series, or you get
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  Speaker 2: Cleveland or Chicago winning the World Series. Which do you take?
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  Speaker 3: I want the White Sox or Cleveland over Shohei Ohtani
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  Speaker 3: and the Dodgers, toppling a giant. That's what you need.
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  Speaker 3: You need the Hoosiers storyline. Now, that's extreme, and I
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  Speaker 3: know what you're saying. You're saying baseball does not want
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  Speaker 3: a lower payroll team in it.
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  Speaker 2: It's mean, but it's reality. If you have Milwaukee and
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  Speaker 2: the White Sox and you're about to head into a lockout,
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  Speaker 2: it's what I call a disaster. But I think a
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  Speaker 2: bigger problem is you don't have stars. Remember the lockout
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  Speaker 2: in the 90s? Guess who brought baseball back? One man,
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  Speaker 2: Ken Griffey Jr. You had a star. Who are the
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  Speaker 2: superstars that are carrying it now? You have great pitchers,
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  Speaker 2: but Shohei is not himself. Aaron Judge is out. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not really sure. You go Milwaukee, Chicago, Cleveland. There's not
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  Speaker 2: one guy who's going to carry the sport other than Shelly.
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  Speaker 3: The Guardians have very few stars, at least breakout stars.
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  Speaker 3: Tampa has no stars. And the White Sox, their only
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  Speaker 3: stars are their fan base, literally the Pope and President Obama.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, you got the Pope.
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  Speaker 3: That's their hook.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but still, I mean, baseball does have this labor
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  Speaker 2: issue looming over it. And listen, the problem of the
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  Speaker 2: World Series is very simple. The NFL is going against it.
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  Speaker 2: So you really need the Dodgers. But that being said, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I love the story and I love the Cinderella, but
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  Speaker 2: I kind of want the Dodgers and I'm sorry. So
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  Speaker 2: Brewers would be great. Miz is great. But after that,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure that they carry the audience.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, you got Dodgers, Brewers, and LCS. This is very
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  Speaker 3: good for baseball. You got the Miz in game one rested.
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  Speaker 3: Probably Yamamoto in game one. National TV, that's a primetime NLCS.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I look back at the numbers from
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  Speaker 2: last year's NLCS. I know. Milwaukee scored four runs in
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  Speaker 2: four games, Paul. They scored one run in every game.
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  Speaker 2: It was a domination. Now, I don't know if the
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  Speaker 2: Dodgers are as good as they were last year. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: Shohei is a major issue for them.
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  Speaker 3: Home field for the Brewers?
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  Speaker 2: So I'm not sure it matters. It's hard to predict.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think either team is going to score a
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  Speaker 2: lot of runs. It doesn't seem like anyone's scoring runs.
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  Speaker 2: That's another thing. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Almost every team has had one of those 0-4 games
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  Speaker 3: with 11 men left on base. But at least from
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  Speaker 3: an anticipation standpoint, this is a great matchup.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, it is 1-2, but I'm wary of disappointment. And
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  Speaker 2: I've got to be honest, I want to see more offense.
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  Speaker 2: I'm being totally shallow here. Can the Dodgers' bats wake up?
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  Speaker 2: Can the Brewers' hit? I don't know. The first game,
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  Speaker 2: watching Miz go 1-0-3 against that lineup is going to
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  Speaker 2: be a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 3: I hope Otani's a little healthier for facing the Miz.
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  Speaker 3: All right, let's get to some football. We've got Thursday
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  Speaker 3: Night Football, Bucs at Cowboys. We're going to hit that later.
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  Speaker 3: The Eagles, right before we got off air yesterday, we
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  Speaker 3: found out Cam Juergens, who was a very good offensive lineman,
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  Speaker 3: a center for the Eagles.
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  Speaker 2: Two-time Pro Bowler.
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  Speaker 3: Two-time Pro Bowler, but expendable. Let me ask you this question.
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  Speaker 3: They trade him to Baltimore. Great pickup for Baltimore who
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  Speaker 3: lost a center. Is this a pure fire sale that
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  Speaker 3: we have over the next few weeks with the Eagles,
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  Speaker 3: or is it more just a reactionary move?
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  Speaker 2: It's a combo. It is a bit of a fire sale,
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  Speaker 2: but I think Howie Roseman, the Eagles GM, could not
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  Speaker 2: believe that the Baltimore Ravens were going to give up
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  Speaker 2: a second-round pick for Cam Juergens.
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  Speaker 3: That's expensive.
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  Speaker 2: It's a shock. It's a shock. Giving up the fifth-round pick? Questionable.
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  Speaker 2: Giving up a second-round pick? Amazing. Cam Juergens has had
• 8:44
  Speaker 2: major health issues. He's got a back problem. He's in
• 8:47
  Speaker 2: a concussion protocol. He is not the same player that
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  Speaker 2: won two Pro Bowlers. The Eagles know that. The Ravens
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  Speaker 2: make no sense, Paul. Can I go back a little bit? Yes.
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  Speaker 2: They trade for Max Crosby. They gave him way too much.
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  Speaker 2: Two first round plays.
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  Speaker 3: That didn't work out.
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  Speaker 2: He doesn't pass the physical. Then they get Trey Hendrickson,
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  Speaker 2: who's actually older than Max Crosby. Max Crosby's still awesome,
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  Speaker 2: so they kind of miss Crosby. Then somehow Cam Juergens
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  Speaker 2: passes a physical, and he has not played well at
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  Speaker 2: all for Philly. The Ravens are odd right now.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, and the Ravens, I still don't know what happened
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  Speaker 3: there with that physical. Max Crosby clearly could play football.
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  Speaker 3: I think they... I think they had their doctor tank
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  Speaker 3: the physical so they could redo the Crosby trade. And
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  Speaker 3: then trading for a center. I actually like them trading
• 9:25
  Speaker 3: for a center. You know what they should have done?
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  Speaker 3: Keep the center you had in Lindenball last year and
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  Speaker 3: not let him out of the building.
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  Speaker 2: I know. We're playing Monday morning quarterback with the Ravens.
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  Speaker 2: It's odd. Their whole team building strategy is unusual. It
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  Speaker 2: might work, by the way. They'll be much better with
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  Speaker 2: a center.
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  Speaker 3: You're saying the Eagles maybe weren't looking to trade him.
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  Speaker 3: They may be looking to shop and got way more
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  Speaker 3: than they asked for.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think Howie saw an opportunity. He said that
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  Speaker 2: he talks to Eric DaCosta, the Ravens GM, all the time.
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  Speaker 2: And clearly the Ravens have a needed center. Their line
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  Speaker 2: is a mess right now. So I think Howie Roseman
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  Speaker 2: is taking advantage. I heard an interesting caveat. So this
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  Speaker 2: is a second round pick and two years. Most teams
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  Speaker 2: devalue that. The Eagles do not devalue that because Howie
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  Speaker 2: Roseman knows that he is safe in his job. He
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  Speaker 2: doesn't care if it's two years, three years, four years.
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  Speaker 2: So Howie Roseman knows that that is going to be
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  Speaker 2: a second round pick. And he'll be able to build
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  Speaker 2: around it. So it's really smart.
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  Speaker 3: So a lot of people reacting yesterday. If they're having
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  Speaker 3: a fire sale, the Eagles, where does Saquon Barkley fit
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  Speaker 3: in this? Let's say in two weeks, I think the
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  Speaker 3: trade deadline is November 7th. Let's say in two weeks,
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  Speaker 3: Saquon is healthy and playing good football. Do they shop him?
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  Speaker 3: Do they take calls?
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  Speaker 2: It's hard to trade a running back. People do not
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  Speaker 2: want running backs.
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  Speaker 3: What about like the Houston Texans who have no running backs?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be great. But they're going to give up
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  Speaker 2: what for Saquon Barkley? Two twos. That'd be the richest
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  Speaker 2: running back trade maybe of all time. You can't trade
• 10:42
  Speaker 2: for a running back. It's a bizarre... CMC, in his prime,
• 10:46
  Speaker 2: three years younger than Saquon Barkley, went for one second
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  Speaker 2: round pick. Okay, fair enough. Which, you know, you look
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  Speaker 2: back at it, that was the move that made San
• 10:53
  Speaker 2: Francisco elite. I would want the Eagles to trade Saquon
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  Speaker 2: because he has no, really, Super Bowl future with him.
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  Speaker 2: He's going to be 30. But I just don't think
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  Speaker 2: that there's going to be an offer.
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  Speaker 3: No, we're going to break here. But the trade deadline
• 11:04
  Speaker 3: thing I'm most curious about is the Eagles with wide receivers.
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  Speaker 3: They have draft capital. They have an extra third-round pick.
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  Speaker 3: Do they do something bigger than Tyreek Hill?
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  Speaker 2: You mean the Chiefs? Chiefs, yeah. Oh, yeah, Chiefs, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I know you want Nico Collins. Yeah, no doubt you
• 11:19
  Speaker 2: want Nico Collins. We'll get to that next. We have
• 11:21
  Speaker 2: a lot coming up on Not So Fast, including a
• 11:24
  Speaker 2: weather update that I am really into for college football
• 11:27
  Speaker 2: this weekend. I love saying the name of the storm.
• 11:30
  Speaker 2: Tune in to hear that. That's next, Not So Fast.
• 11:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the original storm name coming.
• 11:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is fun. No, it's not fun. I hope
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: everyone's okay.
• 11:39
  Speaker 3: Yes, but Cantori may be on property.
• 11:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm curious about the game.
• 11:44
  Speaker 3: I can't tour either. Okay, Pearl, here we go. Midday pick-me-up.
• 11:49
  Speaker 3: Midday pick-me-up for one fan base, not so much the other.
• 11:52
  Speaker 3: Manny Machado, moon ball here. Looks like it's going out.
• 11:55
  Speaker 3: This will tie it up. No, not so fast.
• 11:58
  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 3: Garrett Mitchell. When he robbed him a home run, he
• 12:02
  Speaker 3: didn't even leave his feet.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I've said many times my favorite play in
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  Speaker 2: baseball is robbing a home run. I'm not even calling
• 12:07
  Speaker 2: that a robbing home run. I'm calling that catching a
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  Speaker 2: fly ball.
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  Speaker 3: We have to see that again. I did some research.
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  Speaker 3: I went to Padres.com, which is different websites depending on
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  Speaker 3: what you type up. And I think the fence is
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  Speaker 3: seven feet high. Look at this.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that was a great play. But I expected more.
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  Speaker 2: When you see the headline, robbing a home run, you
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  Speaker 2: expect more.
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  Speaker 3: Now, would that have been fan interference if they put
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  Speaker 3: their hand over the ball? And I think that may
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  Speaker 3: have been ruled a home run.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because of how low the fence is. By the way,
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: I love unusual fences and unusual ballparks. That's the best
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: part of baseball is that it's not cookie cutter.
• 12:44
  Speaker 3: What about the Houston Astros a few years ago? Remember
• 12:45
  Speaker 3: they had that thing that went upwards and top of
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  Speaker 3: the trop?
• 12:48
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And people got hurt.
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. I still loved it. That was terrible. That's
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: the best part of it.
• 12:53
  Speaker 3: All right, it's time for some warm takes. Baseball, football,
• 12:55
  Speaker 3: it gets you warm for a couple warm takes. I'm
• 12:57
  Speaker 3: going to go first, and this one's really obvious, but
• 12:59
  Speaker 3: I wanted to re-hit this one. Watching Shoei Ohtani last
• 13:02
  Speaker 3: night when he got up to bat, I know he's
• 13:03
  Speaker 3: been scuffling, as they say in baseball lately, not hitting
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  Speaker 3: that well. But I was just about to go and
• 13:08
  Speaker 3: get myself a freshie, and Ohtani came up to bat.
• 13:10
  Speaker 3: And I turned around, sat down, and watched his entire at-bat.
• 13:14
  Speaker 3: There's not that many people will do that in baseball
• 13:15
  Speaker 3: or any sports. And we have a term for it
• 13:18
  Speaker 3: here on the DP Show and Not So Fast. It's
• 13:19
  Speaker 3: called BCW. Bathroom can wait or beer can wait. There
• 13:23
  Speaker 3: are certain athletes where they're coming up to bat, they
• 13:25
  Speaker 3: come into the game, you sit down and you watch
• 13:28
  Speaker 3: that bat because something may happen and something usually does happen.
• 13:31
  Speaker 3: And I know Otani's hurt, but he is first team BCW.
• 13:34
  Speaker 3: I remember back in the day, just to go another sport,
• 13:37
  Speaker 3: when Deion Sanders was coming back for a punt return
• 13:40
  Speaker 3: or a kick return, especially punt returns, and usually, hey,
• 13:43
  Speaker 3: it's a punt, I'm going to go get a beer,
• 13:44
  Speaker 3: I'm going to go to the bathroom. No, Deion's returning
• 13:46
  Speaker 3: the punt. There's different guys like that. Devin Hester in football.
• 13:50
  Speaker 3: Barry Bonds back in the day. BCW, Bathroom Can Wait,
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: and Otani, even though he's not hitting like he usually is,
• 13:56
  Speaker 3: his first team, BCW.
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: I remember being at Yankee Stadium, and I was getting
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: a beer or something. People started running into the stadium saying,
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: he's up, he's up, because they were all there to
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: see Ken Griffey Jr. play. That is the ultimate BCW.
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: Barry Bonds is the other name that jumped to mind.
• 14:10
  Speaker 3: Griffey's a great one. When I lived in New York City,
• 14:12
  Speaker 3: I got Yankees tickets once, and it was to see
• 14:14
  Speaker 3: the Mariners. I was like, oh, to see Griffey? And
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: we all had to sit right behind Griffey. The stands
• 14:19
  Speaker 3: were so packed. and we're chanting to Griffey, getting his attention,
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: but you went to the park to see Griffey, not
• 14:24
  Speaker 3: the Yankees.
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: Aaron Judge, you would, I think, as a BCW player,
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: when he's healthy. Shohei is the ultimate one, though. I
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: love that. Okay, I'm going to the NFL for my
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: warm take. We can read the writing on the wall
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: here in Philadelphia. Everybody knows what's happening. Let's not beat
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: around the bush. Jalen Hurts is on his way out.
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: How many signs do we need from GM Howie Roseman?
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: The offensive line lost 40% of its starters this week,
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: obviously with the Cam Juergens trade and Lane Johnson retiring.
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts without an offensive line is not good. It
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: was bizarre. Against the Rams last week, the blitz was
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: coming up. Even a casual fan could see the blitz
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: was headed his way. He seemed to not notice it.
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: Everything needs to be working perfect in Philly for Jalen
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: Hurts to excel. And I don't think they can keep
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: going like this because the rest of the team is
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: getting old or getting too expensive. So, Jalen Hurts, you
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: can get out after 2027, Paul. There's a way to
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: do it without too much pain. So there's one more season.
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: And then in 2028, the Eagles have two first-round picks
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: and two second-round picks. So they can do two things.
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: They can either draft a guy in the second round
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: in a quarterback-rich draft next year, develop him, or they
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: can wait until 2028 and see where the chips fall. Now, remember...
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: This is a team that just signed Carson Wentz to
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: a $ 128 million deal, then 10 months later drafted Jalen
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: Hurts in the second round. They said it was to
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: be a backup, but secretly in the building, they knew
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: there was something off with Carson Wentz. So they are
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: not afraid to move on.
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'm probably objective about this. I'm not
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: an Eagles fan or detractor, but I think we've seen
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts' best work. And he has to have a
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: good line because he's a great player, but he's not
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: a great passer. He never was a great passer.
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: No.
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: He does feel like a guy at times you could
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: count on in clutch situations. What bothers me is that
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: he doesn't run the ball anymore. And there was a
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: time a long time ago, like four years ago, where
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: he was a serious threat. I compared him yesterday to
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: Peek McNabb, where he's built like a big running back,
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: and he just doesn't run. Three years ago, he attempted
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: 10 runs per game. Now he's down to three.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, I know.
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: And you know, and it's got to be frustrating. If
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: you remember Peek Cam Newton, the threat of Cam's running
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: was bigger than his passing. And I think with Jalen Hurts,
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: He either has to be reminded of this, but I
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: don't know how you tell someone to run.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: I think it's a big issue in that building. I
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: think even the coaches and the GM, I think they
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: want him to run more, and he does not want to.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure. He seems a bit stubborn. I don't
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: know Jalen Hurts. No one really knows him, but he
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: seems like when he decides he's going to play a
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: certain way, he will not change.
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: And I do like what you're saying about Howie Roseman,
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: the GM of the Eagles, seeing this future and saying, like,
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: let's get our ducks in a row. Let's get our
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: draft picks in a row for the days when it's
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: time to pull the Band-Aid, because right now, You can't
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: bench Hurts. He's got too much.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: In the pitch.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's still got good games.
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: Right, but they have guys. I would say, though, he's
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: safe for now, but not safe if they miss the playoffs.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: I will say one thing about him. He is not
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: a quarterback I would want to face in the Super Bowl.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: No.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: He's been awesome in two Super Bowls. He has great games,
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: and he's going to go down as an Eagles legend.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: But I think it's getting toward the end.
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: We'll stay with the Eagles for a second. This is
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: my next warm take. I think everyone was really shocked
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: the other day when Eagles future Hall of Fame lineman
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: Lane Johnson retired suddenly. The details are kind of murky,
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: personal issues, mental health things. It was shocking, and we
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: don't really know that much more today than we did.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: And we were trying to talk about the football side
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: of this, what it does to the Eagles, because we
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: don't know what Lane Johnson is going through. Again, very
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: few details. Yesterday, Stephen A. Smith took a bit of
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: a cheap shot, more than a bit of a cheap shot,
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: and he got lit up, deservedly so. He basically said
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: that Lane Johnson calls it quits now. He couldn't have
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: done it before the season. Now he uses air quotes
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: of mental health as the thing. You know, Stephen A.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: Smith got ripped, and hopefully he learns from this, because
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: we think that athletes, because they have money, fame, success,
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: that they've got everything. We met Lane Johnson once. We
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: had him on the Dan Patrick Show. Seems like a
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: super cool guy. That doesn't mean we know Lane Johnson,
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: because we met him for 12 minutes on the Dan
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: Patrick Show. We have no idea what they're going through.
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: I think it's fair to critique athletes with physical issues.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: Like if a guy doesn't play and you're like, oh,
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: why isn't Puka Nakua back? Isn't his hamstring okay? Yeah,
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: that's okay. That's kind of what we do, the physicality
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: of it. But we have no idea. And in the
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: hot take world of social media, being flippant about an
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: ankle injury, that's one thing. Being flippant about mental health,
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: that's a complete other. Because we've seen guys with mental
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: health issues and it goes to a dark place or
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: a really bad result. Right now, whatever Lane Johnson's doing,
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: great for him. don't know, and let him deal with it.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: But if you get flippant about people's mental health, people
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: are going to call you out, and deservedly so.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no notes. I totally agree. Listen, Lane Johnson announced
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: he was going to retire anyway. You knew something was off.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: If you're an Eagles fan, this was not a surprise
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: at all.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: Right, and this isn't 1983 where you say, tape it up,
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: go run a lap. This isn't your dad's NFL anymore.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: There's real issues here, and whatever Lane Johnson's dealing with,
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: a cheap shot on national TV, it's lazy. And it's
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: the opposite of what people want to hear. Clearly, you
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: could say like, hey, play through this injury, play through this.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: But mental health is not a play through situation.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question as a producer, though.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: You've worked at ESPN. There's a lot of pressure to
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: generate takes fast. Stephen A. Smith's on TV a lot.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Do you ever give him a pass because you know
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: he's running through 700 different shows?
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: But that's his choice. If he wants to be on
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: 700 different shows, you've got to be prepared and do
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: some research on Laney Johnson. Dan Patrick's a busy guy.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: He does his research and tries to give a measured take.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: I'll bet you what happened on that show is after
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: the break, they saw what happened because all hell broke
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: loose on social media against Stephen A. Smith's take on
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: Lane Johnson. When he came back, he tried this half-assed
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: apology where he said, I was misunderstood. Misunderstood means you
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: misunderstood me. Then he had to re-apologize for the third
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: time this morning. Again, You know, learn from this one
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: and don't do it again because we don't know what's
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: going on. You got to have more information before you
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: make that kind of.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. OK, I completely agree. OK, my next warm take
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: is a weather related one. We have some problems with Alabama,
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: Georgia on Saturday night. Now, apparently the rain might end
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: from tropical storm Isaias.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: What?
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Isaias. I'm being told it's Isaias. It was upgraded to hurricane. Now,
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: there's a couple of issues going on right now. One,
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump is supposed to come to the game and
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: the president is saying he's not sure what he's going
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: to do. Game day, I believe, is in Tuscaloosa for this.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: And there are very limited options for moving it because
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Atlanta is taken up by the Sunday night game on NBC,
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: by the way, between the Falcons and the Ravens. So
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: what do you do if you're Alabama, Georgia? You pretty
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: much stick to your guns and try and do it
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Saturday night. Now, I'm complaining as a fan and I
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: don't know if I'm complaining about the SEC or about
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Alabama or Mother Nature. This is the first awesome SEC
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: game of the year. I do not want to see
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: it on a rain-soaked field. We saw the Bears play
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: the Vikings in Week 2. It was terrible, 9-3. But
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: the Bears and the Vikings are going to play again.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: This is our one chance to finally find out, is
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Georgia any good? Because they've beaten a terrible schedule. Is
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Alabama any good? Is Keelan Russell going to win the Heisman?
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: This was supposed to be the time. Instead, we're going
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: to get this watered-down, literally, product And I almost want
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: them to move it to another week to say whatever game,
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: you know, if Georgia has Vanderbilt, say, Vanderbilt, you're going
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: to have to move. We're going to bring Alabama to
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: this game. I don't want to see a rain-soaked game, Paul.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: I don't know who I appeal to, what the higher
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: authority is here. But this is very depressing as a
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: college fan because you know they're going to try and play.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: And there's a strong possibility the field is going to
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: be total slop.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: Also, beyond the field, the safety issues for the thousands
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: and thousands of fans.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: He'll be commuting during the story. Right.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: Not just the fans in the building. Let me tell you,
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: I've been to SEC games. People travel down there to
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: go to the bars and hang out around the stadium.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: I think you could abundantly caution this one.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: Either move it to a neutral site like Dallas or
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: somewhere else that's far enough away. Or if you move
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: it later in the season, that would be something. Now,
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: if you have Alabama facing Wofford in Week 15, you just.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: You do a home and home with Wofford or something.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: Then you have the SEC title game. You don't want
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: to see a back-to-back.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: So as of right now, this game is still being
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: played even with the hurricane on the way.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's been varying weather reports. I'm on top
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: of them. I'm going full Cantori that the rain might
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: end for the most part. right before the game time
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: so it'll be dry enough and not too windy but
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: there's also a chance that it moves inland like this
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: is a serious storm yeah we're not we're not making
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: light of this this is a lot of.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: Issues not just lightning this is a serious thing.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah no for other parts of the country as well
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: i hope that i hope that it stays offshore but
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: if it does come on shore i don't want to
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: risk anybody as a football fan do you like the
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: sloppy games like a game like this can't be a.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: No, we like snow games. We don't like sloppy rain.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: In the NFL, it can be better because it's an
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: 18-game schedule and those teams are going to play again.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: This is a really, really interesting matchup that is getting
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: affected by this.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: All right, let's turn the tables and play a little
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: fun game before we break. This is one of our favorites.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: We haven't said it because we're both really bad at
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: this game. It's called, who said it? Perloff, hopefully football-related,
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: but not necessarily. Who said the following quote? Elite level
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: of dodging slipperiness, being able to get out of the
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: pocket and the ability to make plays and all the
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: other really great stuff that a quarterback does. He is
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: special in a great, great way.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: I got it. George Kittle and Brock Purdy.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's good. Todd Bowles about his young quarterback.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's good.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: Taking a shot in the dark. Here we go. Who
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: said it? Elite level of.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Oh, come on. It's always Harbaugh.
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: Dodging slipperiness, you know, being able to get out of
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: the pocket and... uh, come on and, you know, ability to,
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: to make plays and, um, you know, and all the,
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: all the other, all the other really great stuff that,
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: that a quarterback does. But, uh, you know, he is
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: special in terms of, uh, you know, in a great way.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: So that's Jim Harbaugh, not talking about his quarterback. He's
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: talking about his opponent, Bo Nix elite level of slipperiness.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: Sounds like an eighties, uh, alt rock band, by the way. Um,
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: Over-complimenting the opposing quarterback, that's standard procedure.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the thing about Bo Nix is you and I
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: cannot figure him out for the life of us. He's
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: not good for 45 minutes, and he's awesome in the
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: fourth quarter. He can move. I remember back at Auburn,
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: he was a running guy, so I get what he's saying.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: But Jim Harbaugh, at 0-4, I don't want to hear
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: anything good about the other team.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: If I run the Broncos, I hypnotize Bo Nix and
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: tell him every quarter is a fourth quarter. All right,
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: one more. We didn't get that one. We got one more.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: Who said it? Pearl, here we go. He's a gamer.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: He's a guy that goes in there and he's going
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: to be electric. I can't say enough about him. Oh,
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: there's a hint. He's been in these type of situations
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: so often. He's always come through.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Okay. This is baseball. And it's about a pitcher. Wow.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: And I don't know what pitcher that is.
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: No.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Gosh. Talking about Yamamoto.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: He's a gamer. Yamamoto.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: This is Dave Roberts on Yamamoto.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: I'll go Dave Roberts as well.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Gamer. He's a gamer. He's a guy that goes in
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: there and is going to be electric. Come on. I
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: can't say really enough about Snoop.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: He's been in these types of situations so often, and
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: he's always come through. And that's Mark Andrews, the tight end,
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: talking about Snoop Hundley, the backup quarterback of the Ravens.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: I'm going to throw the BS flag. That is too
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: deep of a cut for either of us to get.
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: We could have been here an hour. We're throwing the
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: flag on this game. This game just, I'm over it.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: This is like algebra in high school. I'm over it.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: But I do agree with Mark Andrews, by the way.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Tyler Huntley, Snoop Huntley will find a way to keep
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: you in a game. I don't know how.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: Snoop in Baltimore is from the wire. Snoop Huntley is
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: the quarterback. So there's two Snoops in Baltimore. Remember to
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: show the wire. All right, coming up next. Oh, bonus coverage.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: John Fanta of NBC Sports Talk. Baseball, football, basketball, whatever
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: it may be. Fanta joins us next. Stick around. Not
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: so fast.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: I love how mad you get when we don't get
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: them right.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: Oh, man, because I'm awful at this game. I'm over.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: Snoop from The Wire, the great actor, Felicia Pearson played
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: Snoop in The Wire.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: Love that show.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: Welcome back. Not so fast. Andrew Perloff, Paul Paps. And
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: now when we started on NBC Sports Now, Peacock, we
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: were so excited. Same day as Fanta in 60. Of course,
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: John Fanta is all over NBC Sports Now. But Paul,
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: I got to tell you, I didn't think we would
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: be talking Cleveland Browns football. It's already October. And they're
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: still alive. John, are you able to contain yourself with
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: a three and one star for the Cleveland Browns?
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: Normally, the baseball season in Cleveland's been lasting longer than
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: the football season. I can't believe it. I mean, this
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: is a testament to Todd Munkin. I think if you
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: were giving out an NFL coach of the year thus far,
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: I would give it to him, Andrew and Paul, because
• 26:52
  Speaker 6: people thought the Browns would be a bottom three team
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: in the NFL. I think it's also a testament to, like,
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: you know, sometimes we overcomplicate things, guys, when we're analyzing
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: all sports. And it was pretty clear in early August
• 27:06
  Speaker 6: when looking at the Browns from training camp and then
• 27:09
  Speaker 6: hearing what people that were really close to the team
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: were saying, there was just a different vibe. And, like,
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: there's 32 NFL teams. We're talking about the select class
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: of football players. And if you have alignment and you've
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: got a common mission, you're going to hang around. You
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: can compete. And Todd Munkin has injected a new type
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: of energy in the football team. But I think that
• 27:29
  Speaker 6: was the thing that was most frustrating about the Browns
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: in recent years. Guys, it's not like we're talking about
• 27:34
  Speaker 6: a roster devoid of talent. They had pieces. The surprising
• 27:38
  Speaker 6: thing to me is how good the rookie receivers have been.
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: Denzel Boston, Casey Concepcion. I thought they'd show flashes. I
• 27:43
  Speaker 6: didn't think they'd be as good as they've been off
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: the bat. They've been great.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: You know, and what's funny about that, I think it's
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: really easy for the media to pick against the Browns
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: in the preseason. If you don't watch a lot of
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: Browns football... The last month of the year, they looked
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: really good, and then the Miles Garrett trade was the
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: right move. It's tough to get rid of first ballot
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: Hall of Famers, but they got a lot back. They're
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: in position for now and the future. Deshaun Watson playing
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: good football, they'd be fine with good football, B-level football.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: Is that fair to say, John?
• 28:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah, because if he plays B-level football, they're going to
• 28:14
  Speaker 6: be in the mix to get a playoff spot in
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: an AFC that's got a lot of questions right now.
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: And the Browns' schedule is not very difficult. I mean,
• 28:21
  Speaker 6: they're playing a last-place schedule. And week to week, things change, but...
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: For the Cleveland Browns, they've been somewhat fortunate with their
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: early slate. After Jacksonville, they're catching Tampa Bay at a
• 28:33
  Speaker 6: perfect time. Tampa Bay doesn't know what they're doing. Carolina's defense,
• 28:37
  Speaker 6: not good, and you had a motivated home crowd. The Steelers, look,
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: that was a good win. Pittsburgh, we dump on them
• 28:44
  Speaker 6: when they lose, and we give them a lot of
• 28:46
  Speaker 6: credit when they win. They get a lot of extreme reaction.
• 28:49
  Speaker 6: They're still a solid football team. But it's staring you
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: in the face here. You're 4-1. You look at the
• 28:55
  Speaker 6: percent chances of making the playoffs when you're off to
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: a 4-1 start, and they're very, very strong. And this
• 29:01
  Speaker 6: is the team that, you know, they've had a lot
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: of success against Cincinnati over the years. They faced them twice.
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: They're still going to wrap up with the NFC South,
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: which has its flaws. They have the New York Giants
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: in December on their schedule. We'll see what state the
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: Giants are in in that case. They look good off
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: the bat, but it's a good thing you're probably getting
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: them later than now because I think they're a very
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: motivated football team now. So for the Browns, it's all
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: there for the taking. The Browns still play the Titans.
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: They still have the Tennessee Titans on their schedule. So
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: there are a lot of very gettable games for this
• 29:36
  Speaker 6: football team. They need to get this one, in MetLife
• 29:39
  Speaker 6: on Sunday sounds like it's going to be monsooning but
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: you know Watson's been solid yep he has been otherworldly
• 29:45
  Speaker 6: great he has not been bad he's delivered in the
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: big moments he's doing what a franchise quarterback needs to
• 29:51
  Speaker 6: do and that is when the game comes down to
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: it in the fourth quarter can you put a drive
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: together it might have been a 56 yard field goal
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: he still got them down there he still got them
• 29:59
  Speaker 6: in a position where they could beat the Steelers We'll
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: see if he keeps it going. It's a good story
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: for the Browns. I'm shocked by it. I'm absolutely stunned
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: by what he's doing. But you know what? We'll see
• 30:09
  Speaker 6: if it can keep going.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: You know, they are two and a half point dogs
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: as of right now this weekend, which is I don't
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: think Vegas is caught up. I want to shift to
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: college football. And, you know, you've been following the Big
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Ten closely, college countdown this season. Do you remember a
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: college wide receiver like Jeremiah Smith at Ohio State? He
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: is obviously the front runner for the Heisman. Paul and
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: I have been debating it all week. Is there another
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: college wide receiver that has done what he's been able
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: to do so far this season?
• 30:38
  Speaker 6: First off, no. I mean, like in my I'm 31.
• 30:42
  Speaker 6: I've never seen anything like this from from a wide
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: receiver and really from I mean, I think of my
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: childhood and watching college football. And Reggie Bush was the
• 30:53
  Speaker 6: first guy who I was like, wow, nobody does that.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, can't stop.
• 30:56
  Speaker 6: You just can't stop him. And, you know, there have
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: been others through the years I was. always impressed with,
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: you know, some of, like, I can remember watching Derrick
• 31:07
  Speaker 6: Henry in college and Mark Ingram, but, like, at the
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: wide receiver position, guys, you also got to have somebody
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: throwing you the football, and you got to have protection,
• 31:15
  Speaker 6: and you're not getting touches. It's not guaranteed you're going
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: to touch the ball every play when you're a wide receiver.
• 31:20
  Speaker 6: It's just not, you know, because there's things that have
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: to go right for you to get the ball, and
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: what he's doing right now is historic. I mean, Jeremiah
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: Smith's is is making history every single time he touches
• 31:34
  Speaker 6: the football and you could sense that when against Illinois
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: he had four touchdown receptions like it was nothing and
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: he had never had more than two in a game
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: and that to me the Illinois win for Ohio State
• 31:48
  Speaker 6: the way that he played that was the first time
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: it really clicked for me of like okay I don't
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: care what this guy says This guy knows he's the
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: best player on the field, and he knows he's the
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: Heisman winner if he puts his head down and does
• 32:03
  Speaker 6: what he needs to do. And that's exactly what he's done.
• 32:05
  Speaker 6: You know, Sane deserves credit because Sane's– I think people
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: have doubted Sane because, you know, young last year and
• 32:12
  Speaker 6: what he battled through it and whatnot. But, like, he's
• 32:16
  Speaker 6: a poised individual. And what Smith is making happen, that combination, guys, like,
• 32:22
  Speaker 6: to me– Alabama's got the best offense in the country.
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: Ohio State has a better defense than Alabama, and Ohio
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: State has the best weapon on the field. And they
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: might have one loss. I think that one loss might
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: have been the best thing that ever could have happened
• 32:38
  Speaker 6: to them. Because if they avoid the bye, it'd be
• 32:40
  Speaker 6: a good thing for Ohio State, in my opinion. I
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: don't want a college football play. I want a play.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: All right, J.F., I'm watching your show, Phantom 60, Monday night,
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: and you were talking about the baseball playoffs last week,
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: all on NBC. Now, you were at, and afterwards, we're
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: going to show the video here of you after the
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: Padres game getting champagne poured on you. We're going to
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: get to that. But I've never been to a Padres
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: home game nor a playoff game. That felt like an
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: SEC or Big Ten football game. Have you ever been
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: to a baseball? I know you've been around for a
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: while covering baseball. Have you ever been to a baseball
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: home game that felt that energetic?
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: No. No.
• 33:12
  Speaker 6: No, full stop. And I saw the the Indians and
• 33:15
  Speaker 6: the Yankees in the 2007 American League Division Series. I
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: thought the ballpark was on fire. You know, they were
• 33:21
  Speaker 6: chanting Kenny Lofton because remember when Kenny came back for
• 33:24
  Speaker 6: one last stint and there were the midges of John
• 33:27
  Speaker 6: Java Chamberlain's neck. This was better. This was better. Petco
• 33:32
  Speaker 6: Park is second to nobody. I'll fight this fight as
• 33:37
  Speaker 6: long as you need me to. I have no allegiance
• 33:40
  Speaker 6: to San Diego, but I think this. I think their
• 33:42
  Speaker 6: fans are outstanding. They are the only major sports city
• 33:46
  Speaker 6: where the one sport that they have is baseball. I'm
• 33:49
  Speaker 6: watching you.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: Out there, John. It was fantastic, and they were up
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: from the first inning. They were going before the game
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: even started. Before we wrap you up here, I know
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: you're doing some Big Ten stuff. We have a thing
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: here called such thing as a dumb question. You were
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: in the postgame interview with Tatis and other people. You
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: had the slicker on, and you were getting champagne and
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: other things poured upon your head. What does an announcer
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: do right after he gets stuff poured all over them?
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: Do you go to the bathroom and clean up? Can
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: you shower on the premises? Do you have a change
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: of clothes? Do you run back to the hotel? Walk
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: me through the postgame.
• 34:18
  Speaker 6: I really wanted to drink a beer. because of the
• 34:21
  Speaker 6: amount that was there. I thought it was so cool.
• 34:23
  Speaker 6: It was like the closest I had gotten to alcohol
• 34:26
  Speaker 6: while being on the job.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: You absorbed it.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:30
  Speaker 6: I mean, I'm not going to lie. There were a
• 34:31
  Speaker 6: couple of splashes of champagne that may or may not
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: have made it into my mouth.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: Not your fault.
• 34:36
  Speaker 6: For that, no. Not my fault at all.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: Come on.
• 34:38
  Speaker 6: I mean, I didn't have to sign any papers walking
• 34:40
  Speaker 6: in the clubhouse. No, you know what I did?
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: I was so.
• 34:44
  Speaker 6: Our postgame coverage was so much fun, and the Tatis
• 34:46
  Speaker 6: moment was amazing. I literally went back to the hotel.
• 34:49
  Speaker 6: I said, well, this suit's ruined. I put it in
• 34:52
  Speaker 6: a plastic bag, and I put on my, you know,
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: my sports shirt and a pair of shorts. And the
• 34:59
  Speaker 6: best thing about it is the hotels connect to the ballpark.
• 35:01
  Speaker 6: I walked across the street, guys. I had three Coronas
• 35:05
  Speaker 6: with lime, and I called it a night.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Wait, you drank them. You didn't pour them on your head.
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: No.
• 35:10
  Speaker 6: I did not pour them on my head, Andrew. I
• 35:12
  Speaker 6: gave thought to it. I'm going to save that for
• 35:15
  Speaker 6: when the Browns win the AFC North.
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: Oh, wow.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think those beers are going to spoil by
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: that time. John, thank you so much for your time.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: Hopefully we're talking Browns football all year long, baby.
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: I'll talk anything with you guys. I love the show,
• 35:29
  Speaker 6: and thanks for having me on.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: All right. That's John Fanta. Of course, you can see him, Fanta,
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: in 60 Monday nights, 6 p.m. Eastern and re-airing throughout
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: the week. Paul, he's on fire right now.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I always wanted to know because I've been in
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: locker rooms. I've only had stuff poured on me. But
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: these reporters, they get absolutely shellacked with champagne, beer, whatever
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: it may be. You can't go back to the hotel.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: You have to take a train. You can't get on
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: a plane. You've got to.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: D-robe. I laughed so hard at John's plastic outfit. I'm
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: not sure I've ever seen a reporter take more precautions.
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: He still got wet. He looked like he was on
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: the Weather Channel. I thought he was going to be
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: with Cantor. He had the slicker on.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: Oh, that was awesome. All right, coming up next, we
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: have a clip from the Dan Patrick show on the
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: NFL that's very interesting. Stay tuned. Not so fast. Yeah,
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: he had the full slicker.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: He had the glasses on. And he's like a weathercaster.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it was great. And he still looked like
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: he got soaked, which was amazing. You can't protect yourself.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: Soaked in some champagne.
• 36:27
  Speaker 7: Is this era over where it's all or nothing? And look,
• 36:31
  Speaker 7: I know I'm old school, but still, there's nothing wrong
• 36:34
  Speaker 7: with going back to the old school to help you
• 36:37
  Speaker 7: with graduate school. I looked at the White Sox. They
• 36:41
  Speaker 7: struck out 19 times yesterday. 19 times! This is historically embarrassing,
• 36:49
  Speaker 7: but it's not. And you're watching the game, and it's
• 36:52
  Speaker 7: not a good product when all you get are strikeouts.
• 36:56
  Speaker 7: Because nobody's saying, all right, come on now, base knock,
• 36:58
  Speaker 7: base knock. That's not what we're cheering for anymore. Hey,
• 37:02
  Speaker 7: come on now. Swing and hit a home run or
• 37:04
  Speaker 7: strike out.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: Back on Not So Fast, Paps and Perloff here, NBC
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: Sports Now. Dan's got a point, but it does feel
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: like the past two or three years, the steals are
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: up a little bit, the gloves when they steal with,
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: the pitch clock. So I would say that the past
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: 10 years with strikeouts or home runs was kind of
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: tough to deal with, but it feels like it's just
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: starting to tip in the other way where more creation
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: of runs.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, they changed the rules with the pickoff,
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: so that's why you have all the stolen bases.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: Totally.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: I don't even think, by the way, you should do
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: any stolen base records anymore because it's so much easier now.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: But I got to... Really? Top five teams... Oh, yeah,
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: it's ridiculous. Like, Vince Coleman, they used to... had 10
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: pickoff throws.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: And I hate the long glove that gives you that.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: And they made the bases bigger as well. Stolen bases
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: is not a real record anymore.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: Nice.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: But the top five teams in home runs this year
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: were Astros, Yankees, Cubs, all playoff teams, Reds, and then
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: the White Sox. These darling White Sox were top five
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: in home runs. Home runs win in the regular season cumulatively.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: So that's why teams are still trying to do it.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: The other thing, though, that has been weird the past
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: 10 years is that your leadoff hitter is not necessarily
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: a guy hitting 310 who steals 40 bases. And that's
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: tough for old schoolers.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: To deal with. Well, I think the Rays may prove
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: that the old school works. You've got to watch the Rays.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: If the Rays do this, I think you're right. There
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: might be a trend away from the home runs. But,
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: you know, guys want to walk. That means there's going
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: to be more strikeouts. Yeah, someone's got to score in
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: this playoffs, Paul.
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: Next on the clip joint, Ben Affleck, big time actor,
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: movie maker, friend of the show. He was on the
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: show today. He grew up in Boston. Matt Damon, of course,
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: is one of his best friends. So Ben Affleck, Matt Damon,
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: and another guy go on a road trip The pilgrimage
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: to Larry Bird, he told us a story. It was fantastic.
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: Larry Bird and that team was, you know, was Boston
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: in those days. And in fact, so much so that
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: when we graduated from high school, Matt and I and
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: another friend of ours drove to French Lick, Indiana to
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: try to meet Larry Bird.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: And we were like, I don't encourage.
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: This behavior, by the way.
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: Don't drive to famous people's homes.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: Don't ring their bells.
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: We did do this, and we got there, and they
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: were like, Larry's in Portland practicing with the Dream Team.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: And so we probably could have.
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: Easily found out, but we drove all the way there
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: to be.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: Told that Larry wasn't in French Lick.
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: We went to a bar in downtown French Lick and said,
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: where does Larry Bird live? And they were like, oh,
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: just right up the road. I mean, they just told
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: us where his house was. We drove up the street,
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: and there, of course, was Larry.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: Like, you can't miss it.
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: It's got the basketball court up front. And it was like, yeah,
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: this full court with no nets in the hoop. I
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: figured Larry had worn them off, draining threes.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: And yeah, we stood.
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: There and rang the bell and then just took a
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: bunch of pictures standing in front of his house, like,
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: you know, bowing like Wayne's World.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: We're not worthy.
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: And That is such a good story by Ben Affleck
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: and a true story. They didn't drive from Chicago or
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: Louisville to central Indiana to see Larry Bird. They drove
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: from Boston.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: And the incredible part is Dan Patrick did the exact
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: same thing except Dan did it with a girlfriend. These
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: are the two famous people who drove to Larry Bird.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: What are the odds?
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: Why is Ben Affleck not making that into a movie?
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: That'd be fantastic.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: Have you ever?
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: Not stalk, pilgrimage to an athlete. I have one.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: Gosh, no, I don't think so.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: You go.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: I'll think about it.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: So Southside Chicago, Walter Payton fans, it's mandatory. Not shocking.
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: It's a Walter Payton story. My high school friends and I,
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: we got in the car. There was a hill in
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: Arlington Heights that Walter Payton used to work at and
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: work out at in the off season. We drove to
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: the hill and sat there for two hours waiting to
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: see if Walter Payton would show up. And this guy goes,
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: he's not here yet. And there's just some random guy like,
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: is he coming? He goes, I don't know. And he
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: just sat there like this. and he didn't show up,
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: but it was still a cool day.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: I'll admit one time we went to Allen Iverson's side
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: office to see if we could see the answer.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: That's fine.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a strip joint.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you didn't have to say that.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Okay. Go to see AI.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: At least you probably had a better time. We were
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: at a hill with nobody around. You were at a
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: strip joint.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: Wait, I have a question. Michael Jordan's house with the
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: famous gate.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: Can people go up to that one?
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not a gated community. You can get back there,
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: but it's not that easy. It's a nice neighborhood.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: I don't think MJ would want you there.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: No, he sure wouldn't. All right, coming up next. constructive criticism,
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: the feel good, and questions from the back room. Can't wait.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: Let's go. Questions from the back room next.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: Should I have not said that thing about Iverson? It's true.
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: It's true.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: We went to the Walter Payton Hill. We're just sitting there.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: We're tailgating. We had like donuts. Maybe I'll show up.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: Bunch of dorks.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: Welcome back, Not So Fast, NBC Sports Now, and Peacock. Paul,
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: I'm so excited because you know what's coming next.
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, week two of one of the most popular segments
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: on the Not So Fast universe. It's called Questions from
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: the Backroom with our guy, Dan Gardella. Here we go,
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: questions from the backroom. Dan Gardella, DP show editor, 1215
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: show host, correspondent for Not So Fast. Dan, you crushed
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: it last week. A lot of response, a lot of
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: energy in the backroom. We don't know what's coming.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: Hit us.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: Go ahead, bud.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, not as many spirited discussions this week, but still
• 41:59
  Speaker 8: some good questions. So let's just jump right into it.
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  Speaker 8: We're going to start on the NFL. A lot of
• 42:02
  Speaker 8: good uniforms in the sport. Plenty to choose from, but
• 42:05
  Speaker 8: I'm going to give you three. Start, bench, cut these uniforms.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 8: The 49ers, the Cowboys, and the Steelers.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, three classics, Dan. I'll start first. Go ahead. I
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: am going to start the Steelers. Because that's awesome. Obviously
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: black or gold or yellow or whatever it is. Cowboys
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: is the middle one. And the Niners is fine. But
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: to me, that's the bench out of those three. Because
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: you're doing three iconic uniforms.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: I'm completely opposite. I think the 49ers pop in the sun.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: I weirdly don't like that red and gold. But together,
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: they look fantastic. The Steelers' tradition and the town feel
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: of their uniforms is great. The consistency is great. The
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: Cowboys uniforms, I like the consistency. I've never been blown
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: away by them. I think they're nice quality uniforms, so
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: they're my cut.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: But my favorite, of course, is when the Bengals go
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: all white with the white and black Tiger helmet. That's
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: number one to me. Wow.
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  Speaker 3: Gutsy.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't think you can go wrong with these.
• 43:05
  Speaker 8: Any of those combinations are good. That one was from
• 43:06
  Speaker 8: your producer, Scott, so be sure to thank him for
• 43:08
  Speaker 8: that one.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: All right. Let's keep moving.
• 43:10
  Speaker 8: If you could own any team in sports across all
• 43:13
  Speaker 8: the sports, Take out the ones you root for.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: Take out the money.
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  Speaker 8: Which team are you picking and why?
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: I'll go first. A bunch of years ago, I went
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: to an English Premier League match. I went to see
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: Fulham in this neighborhood outside of London. And they had
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: wooden benches, and it felt like Wrigley Field for professional soccer.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: And I like the Premier League. I like pubs. Not
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: in that order. If I owned Fulham football, I would
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: just walk to the pub, walk to the match, and
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: go home. I'd be fine with that as a lifestyle.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: Okay, for me, there's two options here. I want to
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: take over a team that never wins and be the
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: guy who wins. Now, unfortunately, the top choice is the
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: Lions and the Jets. And the Jets are closer to
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: my house, so I have fantasized about owning the Jets.
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: And you'd be the hero. You'd be the hero forever.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: I would move them into New York City, get them
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: out of New Jersey. I think that's a major problem.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: And then I'd go back in time and draft Patrick
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: Mahomes instead of... Who'd they take? They took the safety.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: Jamal Adams. Yeah, gutsy. There are a lot of things
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: the Jets can do, and there's a lot of room
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: for improvement. And the bar is so low, so New York.
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: And Dan, I think you'd agree with me. I think
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: Perloff would do a bang-up job there. Just bring him
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: back to New York City, the fans would vote for
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: you as the owner.
• 44:21
  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's half the battle. I'm thinking the same way
• 44:23
  Speaker 8: as you, Perloff. I'm taking the worst team imaginable. I
• 44:25
  Speaker 8: was thinking Colorado Rockies.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 44:27
  Speaker 8: Phoenix Stadium. You can't do any worse than what's currently
• 44:30
  Speaker 8: going on. So I think you build them. You win
• 44:32
  Speaker 8: a couple games. You're beloved by the fan base. It
• 44:35
  Speaker 8: seems like a good formula.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: Nice.
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: What's in the last one, Danny G?
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: We're going to stick baseball.
• 44:38
  Speaker 8: Playoff baseball going on, obviously. A lot of great matchups.
• 44:41
  Speaker 8: A lot of great games. If you had to choose,
• 44:43
  Speaker 8: would you prefer a high scoring matchup, plenty of offense,
• 44:47
  Speaker 8: or the prototypical fall classic October pitching duel?
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? I love offensive baseball. I do
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: not want to see a 2-1, or even worse, if
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: you're a Yankees fan, a 1-0 game. I want to
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: see balls flying out of the stadium. You know, I'm
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: a Phillies fan, and look at that ballpark. I wish
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: they were still playing there because you know you could
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: get home runs there.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: You know, I don't really care as long as it's close,
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: but that's a bit of a cop-out. Yeah, I want
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: the scoring. I want stuff happening right off the bat,
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: right out of the gate. Low-scoring games are great in
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: the 8th and 9th. Not so good in the first
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: seven innings.
• 45:21
  Speaker 8: Yeah, and the unfortunate thing is if both your teams
• 45:23
  Speaker 8: took that advice, they'd probably still be playing.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: Oh, Dan, low blow. All right. Thanks, buddy.
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: Nice shot. Thank you, Danny G.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: No problem, guys. Man, there's always something going on in
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: the back room. All right, Paul, big game tonight. The
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: Cowboys host the Bucs. Eight and a half points spread.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: Who do you got?
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: I'm picking the Cowboys by two touchdowns. This should be
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: one of those where you just take advantage of a
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: young quarterback who hasn't played a lot. But the Jalen
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: Daniels unknown factor is interesting. He played at Kansas. Interesting quarterback.
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: It could be a complete disaster or awesome breakout player.
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: I think that's the hook of the game tonight.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: Well, 90% of the money is on the Cowboys. It's
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: been between 7.5 and 8.5. That makes me very nervous.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: How concerned should we be if Jalen Daniels becomes great
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: and we have to balance Jalen Daniels and Jaden Daniels on.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: It's a big issue. We're dealing with Bijan Robinson and
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: Brian Robinson on Atlanta. A couple numbers, by the way.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: Last week, Jalen Daniels ran for 55 yards and Bucky
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: Irving had 61. So there's a formula to beat Dallas.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: Running quarterbacks are a problem for them and running backs
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: are a problem for them. If they can run all
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: over them and keep them close. Otherwise, why isn't the
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: spread 14? You're exactly right. But I think something weird
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: is going to happen.
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: A little tighter than we thought. It's time for constructive
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: criticism from feedback, your questions, your thoughts. Here we go, Pearl.
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: We got a lot of these in. Hit us up
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: on Twitter. We'll put them on the show. First one.
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: What if the Seahawks called the Eagles about Saquon Barkley?
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: This is from you. Second or third round pick. Eagles
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: have kept trouble on the horizon and need to go younger.
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: No dice, right?
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure if Seattle does this. I think that
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: makes a lot of sense. John Schneider is GM of Seattle,
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: and Howie Roseman is another longtime GM of the Eagles.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: Neither of them wants to look dumb in this trade.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: I think it makes sense. Seattle could make the Super Bowl.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: They definitely need help of running back. They tried to
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: sign Joe Mixon, failed at physical. This makes sense. I
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: think the Eagles would do it for a second. What
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: do you think?
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: I don't think it will happen or should happen. They've
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: got to go with price. Tailgating is widely known for
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: its association with football. but there's some baseball stadiums with tailgating.
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: Do you believe tailgating belongs at every sport or primarily
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: stay with football and football culture? Like I said, I'll
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: tailgate anywhere. We were talking, the guys here say people
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: tailgate at concerts, of course. I've seen lacrosse tailgates that
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: are bangers. So yeah, tailgate anywhere. Funerals, weddings, whatever maybe.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: I feel like it'd be weird to tailgate an NBA
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: game in the middle of the city. That doesn't make sense.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: You're not going to tailgate at Madison Square Garden. You'd
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: get arrested.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: You don't see a lot of tailgating at NBA games,
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: but Feel free to tailgate anywhere. When I go furlough,
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: you better be tailgating.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: You know what would be good to tailgate? Ice hockey.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: It's kind of cold, though.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but everything stays cold. All right, let's get to
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: the feel-good. We're going to go all the way out
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: to China for the feel-good. This is a good one, Pearl.
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: I love this. Here we go. The Houston Rockets are
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: in China. There's Kevin Durant with a bunch of kids
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: around him. Very excited to see him. That's a long
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: way to go. That's a cool scene there.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. China loves the NBA. Obviously, Kevin Ray is
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: taller than everybody, but he's particularly taller than these kids. Yeah, yeah.
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: It's an interesting group there. You know, Kobe Bryant talked
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: about it, this, that he would go to China. And
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: sometimes he felt more famous in China than he did
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: in America.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: Oh, 100%. I don't understand one thing about it. Kevin
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: Durant seems like the nicest person in person. We've been
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: around him a little bit. And then he's so mean
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: on social media. Who is he?
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: I think he's defensive on social media. He's more defensive
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: on social media than he is on the court.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: You know what?
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: I love seeing him. Remember Marbury in China? I was
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: always a Stefan Marbury fan. And the fact that he
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: got a second life there was really gratifying.
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going to hit you with this before we
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: get done. Finish this statement. If the Cowboys lose tonight
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: to a second-string unknown quarterback, the fallout is what?
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: It's even worse than the tropical storm slash hurricane that's
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: hitting the southeast. It would be a massive fallout. Everyone
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: thinks Dallas already won this game.
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: And the opening now, Eagles down a little bit. The
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: Giants not that great. It's on a tee for them.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the Giants are 3-1, but that's a
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: fake 3-1. This has got to be the Cowboys' run.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: Their schedule's easy. Let's go, Cowboys. All right.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: Thanks a lot to John Fanta for joining the show
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: all the time. Fanta in 60, Mondays at NBC Sports Now.
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: And tune in tomorrow. John Smoltz on the Dan Patrick
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: Show and RG3 on the Dan Patrick Show. Then come
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: hang with us afterwards on Not So Fast, Paps and Proff.
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: Enjoy the games tonight. Take care.