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GINGER-HAIR CLUE TO FINDING MISSING INFANT? · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Can you remember when your
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Speaker 1: children were just three months old? How sweet, how precious,
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Speaker 1: how defenseless they were? Your job, job number one, to
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Speaker 1: keep them alive. How does a three month old baby
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Speaker 1: disappear for weeks on end and the parents don't know?
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Speaker 1: How does that happen? Just curious because you have to
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Speaker 1: carry the baby everywhere you go, so no one ever thought, Wow,
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Speaker 1: I left the baby in the house, I left the
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Speaker 1: baby in the car. That never happened. I'm talking about
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Speaker 1: a beautiful little girl, Angel Nicole Overstreet. I mean it.
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Speaker 1: See Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank you for being
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Speaker 1: with us here at Fox Nation and series XM one eleven.
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Speaker 1: Take a listen to our friends at WOWKTV Breaking news.
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Speaker 1: Huntington police are looking for this missing baby, Angel over Street.
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Speaker 1: The last time anyone saw her was May eighth. Teleprojective
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Speaker 1: Service Agents believes she may be with her father. The
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Speaker 1: police department also says that the father turned Angel over
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Speaker 1: to CPS two weeks ago, but CPS wasn't able to
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Speaker 1: confirm a custody exchange. Now. Angel is three months old
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Speaker 1: with blue eyes and dark hair with a reddish tint.
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Speaker 1: She also has a strawberry shaped birthmark on the back
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Speaker 1: of her neck with me an all star panel to
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Speaker 1: make sense of what we know right now in the
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Speaker 1: search for Angel Overstreet, a defenseless baby. First of all
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Speaker 1: Icon and the crime Fighting World, founder of Class Kids
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Speaker 1: Foundation and on Twitter at Polly Dad Mark class is
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Speaker 1: joining us. Kathleen Murphy, family lawyer out of North Carolina
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Speaker 1: at NC Domestic Law dot com. Renowned psychologist joining us
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Speaker 1: out of Manhattan. Karen Stark, She's at Karen Stark dot com.
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Speaker 1: That's Karen with a see Special Deputy Sheriff Johnson County Sheriffs.
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Speaker 1: You can find him at Kelsey's Army dot com. Greg
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Speaker 1: Smith joining us, but first to Alexis Terreschuk, crime online
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Speaker 1: dot com investigative reporter. First of all, describe for me
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Speaker 1: what does Angel Nicole Overstreet look like? I mean, you know,
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Speaker 1: you've got a baby. It's hard for people, if it's
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Speaker 1: not their baby, to really distinguish amongst other babies. Like
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Speaker 1: when I have the twins, people would say, well, which
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Speaker 1: one is Lucy and which one is John David, And
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Speaker 1: to me it was so apparent. So it's kind of
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Speaker 1: hard to get a description on an infant. For non parents,
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Speaker 1: but give it your best. Can see the last time
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Speaker 1: she was seen she was three months old. She has
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Speaker 1: blue eyes. She has a dark colored hair, kind of
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Speaker 1: a little bit of a reddish tint, but not very
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Speaker 1: much of it. She's like tuft of hair on top
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Speaker 1: of her head. The one thing that would stick out
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Speaker 1: is she has kind of a strawberry shape, so how
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Speaker 1: much you know, like a heart shaped mark on the
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Speaker 1: back of her neck. But she is a white baby,
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Speaker 1: and she is probably I mean, I don't even know
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Speaker 1: if she weighs twenty pounds. She's funny looking at her
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Speaker 1: and you can see they Yeah, I can see a
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Speaker 1: red red tint to her hair. She doesn't have much hair,
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Speaker 1: I mean, she's a little baby, but I can definitely
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Speaker 1: see the red hair growing out In a layer photo.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if you're looking at the one I'm
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Speaker 1: looking at. She's got on a light brown onesie covered
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Speaker 1: in daisies. With that one, you can really see the
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Speaker 1: red hair is growing out. The earlier pictures that sadly
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Speaker 1: I believe law enforcement was using. I don't know that
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Speaker 1: a non parent could tell her from another baby, but
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Speaker 1: the one with the red hair growing out, I mean
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Speaker 1: Mark klass. Let me ask you, because your whole world,
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Speaker 1: your life is devoted to helping finding missing children. There's
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Speaker 1: not that many red headed people in the world, unless
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Speaker 1: it's from a bottle, okay, and I certainly don't have
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Speaker 1: a leg to stand on for that. But a redheaded baby,
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Speaker 1: that's not that usual, is it. I don't think it is.
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Speaker 1: I mean, we should go if you look it up.
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Speaker 1: How often does red hair occur? My daughter and I
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Speaker 1: were looking up green eyes versus blue eyes, versus hazel
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Speaker 1: eyes versus brown eyes, and then the two of them
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Speaker 1: started looking up hair color. And I can remember that
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Speaker 1: it was very rare. So mark a baby missing, a
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Speaker 1: baby missing with red hair, and certainly that hair change
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Speaker 1: over time. But listen, this child is hellooa red hair
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Speaker 1: mark class. I don't think red hair changes over time.
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Speaker 1: It does. Blood hair changes over time. Well, it gets
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Speaker 1: darker and darker unless you're modeling it out, doesn't it.
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Speaker 1: I mean, people I know that are of age that
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Speaker 1: have red hair have much darker red hair than a
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Speaker 1: little ginger, little ginger headed kid. It's still red. Well,
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Speaker 1: I got it. I got some data. One to two
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Speaker 1: percent what one to two percent of the world population
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Speaker 1: as a natural redhead, So that would I'm extrapolating Mark Class,
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Speaker 1: one to two percent of missing children are redheaded, so
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Speaker 1: that narrows it down. I mean it helps a little,
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Speaker 1: It helps a little. Books, What exactly are we looking for, Nancy,
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Speaker 1: Mark Class? It seems to me, and this is anecdotal.
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Speaker 1: I don't have a stat on this, but I bet
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Speaker 1: you do. The children that we typically deal with that
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Speaker 1: have gone missing, are you know, three or four years
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Speaker 1: old at east or older? I don't typically hear of
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Speaker 1: an infant. God, Missy, Well, it happens. It happens in hospitals,
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Speaker 1: not nearly as much as it used to people that
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Speaker 1: want to claim a baby for their own. But this
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Speaker 1: is a situation where you have a red haired baby
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Speaker 1: that was supposedly turned over to CPS. The fact that
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Speaker 1: the baby had red hair should give CPS some ability
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Speaker 1: to track the child Class. You know what, you are
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Speaker 1: an icon and a living legend in my mind, a hero.
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Speaker 1: But are you really giving any credence to CPS child
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Speaker 1: Protective Services? I mean, Mark Class, how many cases have
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Speaker 1: you and I investigated where Child Protective Services leaves the
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Speaker 1: baby and a horrible situation and then we're covering a
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Speaker 1: murder because if CPS leaving the children in the situation,
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Speaker 1: then they're abused, tortured, starved for another few months before
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Speaker 1: they're killed. I mean, really enjoying CPS and a derelict parent.
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Speaker 1: I don't know which one I would trust more. Well, Nancy,
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Speaker 1: I would trust CPS more because they have a massive
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Speaker 1: caseload and you're absolutely corrected way more cases than either
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Speaker 1: of us would want to admit. CPS is somehow involved
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Speaker 1: because of their misguided efforts or their incompetence, but there
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Speaker 1: are also a lot of cases where they get it
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Speaker 1: right and where they do to protect the children, and
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Speaker 1: that's exactly what they're there for. And they have absolutely
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Speaker 1: no record of this little red headed girl. Well put
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Speaker 1: mark class. Guys. Let's hear from the Chief of Police
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Speaker 1: of the Huntington Police Department. This is Ray Cornwell addressing
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Speaker 1: this baby's disappearance, a matter that has been brought up
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Speaker 1: some folks of question why the Amber alert system was
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Speaker 1: not utilized in this situation, and the Amber alert system
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Speaker 1: would not be applicable in this situation. We actually consulted
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Speaker 1: with the office that issues those alerts, with the West
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Speaker 1: Virginia State Police and the Amber Alert system is used
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Speaker 1: to put out information that is fresh, immediate, and ongoing.
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Speaker 1: And by the time the information came to us that
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Speaker 1: the last known contact with the child was over two
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Speaker 1: weeks away, so we did not have fresh information, any
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Speaker 1: vehicle descriptions or anything like that. We did consult with them,
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Speaker 1: but it was determined that this matter did not qualify
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Speaker 1: for an Amber alert. You know, bout g Mark Class
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Speaker 1: said another one of your specialties, does the name Cherish
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Speaker 1: Periwinkle ring about? Oh my god, the little girl in
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Speaker 1: the Walmart? Yes, and the mom Rain who has her
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Speaker 1: children at Walmart and some guys they meet at Family Dollar,
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Speaker 1: gives them a ride over there. He strikes up a conversation.
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Speaker 1: They keep talking. It's getting toward closing time, and there
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Speaker 1: happens to be it's a superstore, a Walmart superstore. You
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Speaker 1: can actually see and the surveillance of video you can
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Speaker 1: see that perv. The little the children are hungry, and
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Speaker 1: he goes, oh, I'll just walk him up front. We'll
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Speaker 1: get some cheeseburgers. Because the McDonald's is part of the Walmart. Again,
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Speaker 1: it's one of those huge superstores. And the mom goes
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Speaker 1: okay because it was inside the store, she tells me,
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Speaker 1: So she wasn't worried, and you can see the two
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Speaker 1: of them walked straight by the McDonald's and out the door.
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Speaker 1: At my point, they police did not listen to the mother,
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Speaker 1: thought this was some custody problem and did not issue
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Speaker 1: an Amber alert. And almost instantly, when many hours later
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Speaker 1: they do issue the Amber alert, somebody calls in and
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Speaker 1: they recognize the car, and they've seen the car, and
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Speaker 1: they go and the child is dead. So here once again,
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Speaker 1: no Amber alert. What do you make of it? Mark
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Speaker 1: class Well, I actually agree with the police chief. The
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Speaker 1: Amber alert is about children that have just been taken
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Speaker 1: and the ability of the public to assist in bringing
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Speaker 1: that child back. This is an entirely different situation. This
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Speaker 1: is a child that had been gone for weeks already
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Speaker 1: that CPS said they didn't have. So how do you
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Speaker 1: wish you an Amber alert? What kind of information do
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Speaker 1: you let go? Except for the fact that it's a tiny,
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Speaker 1: tiny little baby with a little tuft of red hair
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Speaker 1: on the top of her head. I can understand why
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Speaker 1: the police chief did what he did. I'm not a
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Speaker 1: huge fan of many aspects of the Amber alert. To
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Speaker 1: begin with, but I think that he was justified in
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Speaker 1: his action in this case. What do you mean by
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Speaker 1: that that you're not a fan of certain aspects of
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Speaker 1: the Amber alert, Well, it was something that he mentioned.
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Speaker 1: I mean, he mentioned the fact that they didn't have
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Speaker 1: any vehicle identifying information. And the reality is is that
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Speaker 1: if a predator is stealing a child, as Richard Allen
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Speaker 1: Davis told my Paullie, they're not going to leave their
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Speaker 1: vehicle information behind. They're going to work in the shadows.
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Speaker 1: They're going to work in stealth. Therefore, the only therefore,
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Speaker 1: in the vast majority of those cases, in Pauli's case,
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Speaker 1: and Adam's Walsh's case, in Elizabeth Smart's case, and none
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Speaker 1: of those cases would an Amber alert ever have been
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Speaker 1: issued because they did not have vehicle information. The only
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Speaker 1: thing that the Amber alert is good for in many
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Speaker 1: states are parental types of abductions or when you actually
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Speaker 1: see when you actually have a vehicle description. Runyan Runyan,
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Speaker 1: do you remember the Samantha Runnian case in a vehicle?
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Speaker 1: I think Samantha Runyan was a three year old little
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Speaker 1: girl playing in her grandmother's front yard, Grandma with another
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Speaker 1: other children. The grandmother was looking out through the kitchen window.
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Speaker 1: A car came got Samantha and shook off with her.
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Speaker 1: I believe that was a Green Hondre and you got
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Speaker 1: a good memory. Yeah, that is great for an Amber alert,
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Speaker 1: and I have to agree with you. Typically I'm furious
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Speaker 1: when Amber alerts are not issued the way it should
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Speaker 1: have been a Cherish periwinkle, because they actually had the car,
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Speaker 1: the truck, the van. It was a white van on
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Speaker 1: video where the Cherish periwinkle and the killer walked to
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Speaker 1: the van, but they didn't do it in time. But
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Speaker 1: in this case, I agree with you, and I rarely
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Speaker 1: agree when an amber a lord is not issued. But
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Speaker 1: in this case, they didn't have anything to go on,
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Speaker 1: so I cannot lambasted the police officer, the chief of police.
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Speaker 1: They had nothing that they could do with it. Guys,
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Speaker 1: we have an all star panel makes sense of what
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Speaker 1: is happening right now. Angel Overstreet, just three months old,
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Speaker 1: has not been found. We don't have a resolution to
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Speaker 1: her disappearance. We don't know where the little red headed
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Speaker 1: girl is. Um I started calling her that when I
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Speaker 1: first heard about the case. After Charlie Brown, who loved
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Speaker 1: the little red headed girl. This little girl is so beautiful.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Kathleen Murphy, you're you title yourself
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Speaker 1: family lawyer, and you know how that drives me crazy
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Speaker 1: because there's nothing warm and family like at all about
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Speaker 1: what you do. You are a tiger stars say pit bull,
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Speaker 1: but I don't want to help, but he jump in.
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Speaker 1: What were you saying, so, Nancy? This baby that's redheaded? Aye,
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Speaker 1: tell all of my children, I have two blonds, three
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Speaker 1: blondes at a brunette, and I I alway gets out to them,
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Speaker 1: why you couldn't be redhead? Why couldn't you have curly hair?
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Speaker 1: My heart breaks for this baby, and Nancy, I don't
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Speaker 1: know how a three month old child nobody. It's actually
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Speaker 1: not at all what I was going to ask you.
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Speaker 1: And you're a line of business. You handle a lot
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Speaker 1: of adoptions, you handle private adoptions. A little baby that
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Speaker 1: looks like this with the beautiful red hair and the
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Speaker 1: big brown eyes, I bet that baby go for sixty
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Speaker 1: seventy thousand dollars on the private market in a New
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Speaker 1: York minute, which is totally wrong. I'm saying that that's
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Speaker 1: the reality. Baby shouldn't go to the highest bidder. But
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Speaker 1: guess what, in certain circles they do sue or false
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Speaker 1: smart class. Well, I think that sometimes that human trafficking
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Speaker 1: aspect is overblown a little bit and most definitely occurs um.
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Speaker 1: But the idea of this situation ending up in some
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Speaker 1: kind of an auction or ana doesn't really you're going
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Speaker 1: off on a tangent. I asked you in the private market,
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Speaker 1: private private adoptions, a baby like this with a very
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Speaker 1: rare the red hair or that precious at that age,
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Speaker 1: when they're so lovable, it's like a little baby doll.
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Speaker 1: That child would probably be adopted for about sixty grand. Well,
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Speaker 1: there should be a record, then, there should be a
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Speaker 1: record of that somewhere. Is that Shane Kathleen Murphy? Are
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Speaker 1: there public records of secret adoptions? Oh? Absolutely, absolutely, there's
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Speaker 1: records of this in all the newspapers, and Nancy, A
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Speaker 1: lot of mothers that are pregnant and don't want to
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Speaker 1: keep their child can go into a private adoption scenari
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Speaker 1: and have all of their expenses paid for while they're pregnant,
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Speaker 1: and then placed this baby in a loving at home
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Speaker 1: where this baby's actually wanted. But instead we don't know
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Speaker 1: what happened to this little girl's mother. We don't know
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Speaker 1: anything about it. We know very very little. Take a
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Speaker 1: listen to again the Chief of Huntington, PD, Ray Cornwell.
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Speaker 1: May twenty four, twenty one, we were contacted by Child
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Speaker 1: Protective Services in West Virginia out of concern for three
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Speaker 1: month old angel Nicole over Street. CPS here in West
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Speaker 1: Virginia had been asked to contact her father, Shannon Overstreet
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Speaker 1: of Huntingdon, by authorities in Kentucky regarding some custody issues.
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Speaker 1: The child's mother was not currently cohabitating with mister Overstreet,
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Speaker 1: but the child was last known to be with mister Overstreet.
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Speaker 1: The child was last known to be with mister Overstreet,
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Speaker 1: according to the mother. The mother, okay, so how reliable
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Speaker 1: is that information? I don't know if you If you
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Speaker 1: guys remember a case we were just covering in the
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Speaker 1: past weeks, the case of little Harmony Montgomery. Take a
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Speaker 1: listen to our cut one is Diane Show NBC ten Police.
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Speaker 1: A seven year old Harmony Montgomery was last seen at
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Speaker 1: a home in Manchester in October of twenty nineteen, but
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Speaker 1: authorities day they weren't notified until just this week. We
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Speaker 1: have spoken with family members of Harmony and despite doing so,
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Speaker 1: our concerns for the her bouts of her remain the
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Speaker 1: same police now working around the clock trying to find
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Speaker 1: the blonde haired, blue eyed little girl. People are going
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Speaker 1: to say that, and they're gonna ask, well, again why
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Speaker 1: two years we cannot investigate things if they're not brought
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Speaker 1: to our attention. And when this was brought Lauranic authorities
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Speaker 1: say they don't have enough information to issue an amber
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Speaker 1: alert at this point because they don't know who she
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Speaker 1: could be with or the car she might be seen
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Speaker 1: in the circumstances surrounding this prolonged absence of very concerning
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Speaker 1: and I'll thoroughly be investigated as we speak. And once
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Speaker 1: again there Mark Klaster could not be an Amber alert
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Speaker 1: because there wasn't fresh enough evidence to attach her disappears
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Speaker 1: to any particular car mark. It shouldn't be about the car,
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Speaker 1: it should be about the child. In all situations. For instance,
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Speaker 1: if we had known about the disappearance of Little Angel beforehand,
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Speaker 1: we could have looked for a redhead girl. But right
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Speaker 1: now we're in a situation where she's been gone for
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Speaker 1: a long time, as was the other out And you're
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Speaker 1: absolutely right, you can issue an amber alert. But I've
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Speaker 1: always thought that the car. Part of this amber alert
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Speaker 1: situation is nothing but a red herring and it does
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Speaker 1: nothing but come the works up. Take a listen again
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Speaker 1: to our cut eleven. This is reporter Scott wmu R
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Speaker 1: News nine regarding Harmony. These are the most recent photos
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Speaker 1: of Harmony available. We're told they were taken when she
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Speaker 1: was about five years old. When last scene, Harmony was
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Speaker 1: about four feet tall. She has blonde hair, blue eyes,
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Speaker 1: and is blind in her right eye, so she may
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Speaker 1: be wearing glasses. Police say she may have been going
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Speaker 1: to school in Massachusetts. One last scene. Who care if
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Speaker 1: you saw this young girl a year ago? When you
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Speaker 1: think it's irrelevant, call us and say I saw her
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Speaker 1: a year ago, I saw her eighteen months ago, I
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Speaker 1: saw her a week ago. Let's lessen that two year
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Speaker 1: window and keep bringing it, keep shrinking that two year
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Speaker 1: window to the present, day to day, and let's chase
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Speaker 1: down every possible avenue with the hopes of fighting Harmony.
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Speaker 1: And Manchester Police tell us they just found out earlier
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Speaker 1: this week that Harmony was missing again. They're asking anyone
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Speaker 1: who may have seen her in the last two years
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Speaker 1: to give them a call. And as in the current
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Speaker 1: case with missing Angel, over Street. Harmony was between mom
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Speaker 1: and dad. They lived separately in two different areas. The
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Speaker 1: mom says dad has him, the dad says, no, I
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Speaker 1: didn't have him. Same thing is happening here Prime Stories
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Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace. Straight out to Karen Start joining us,
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Speaker 1: a renowned psychologist in Manhattan, Karen, the reality is when
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Speaker 1: parents are separate or divorced and they're trying to co parent,
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Speaker 1: a lot can go wrong. But seriously, you don't know
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Speaker 1: where your baby is. Neither parents seems to know. Well,
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Speaker 1: that makes you an answer without a doubt question the
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Speaker 1: kind of parenting that this little girl has had. And
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Speaker 1: it's very as I read about, very confusing to me
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Speaker 1: because he the father, said that he handed her over,
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Speaker 1: and is he handed her over? What did that mean?
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Speaker 1: That he was just having a visit with her and
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Speaker 1: she didn't live with him? Straight out to you, Greg
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Speaker 1: Smith joining a special Deputy Sheriff Johnson County Sheriff's Office.
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Speaker 1: His daughter Kelsey went missing as well. He is the
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Speaker 1: executive director of Kelsey Smith Foundation and you can find
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Speaker 1: him at Kelsey's Army dot com. Greg Smith, you have
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Speaker 1: been studying the cases of missing children, missing teens, missing people,
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Speaker 1: since Kelsey went missing. What should police be doing now
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Speaker 1: to find Angel? Well, there's a lot of problems with
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Speaker 1: this case already. I mean, one, the amount of time
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Speaker 1: between when the child went missing to when it's reported. Two,
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Speaker 1: CPS has no records. What's going on. I wish I
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Speaker 1: could say that that was something that doesn't happen a lot,
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Speaker 1: but it does happen a lot. And yeah, they have
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Speaker 1: a huge caseload, and yeah they're undermanned, and yeah they're underpaid,
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Speaker 1: but so or police departments and prosecutors and public defenders
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Speaker 1: and basically anybody that works for the government. But the
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Speaker 1: problem is their number one priority is supposed to be
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Speaker 1: that child, and I don't see that happening here. There's
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Speaker 1: just too big a delay on this. As we were
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Speaker 1: talking about earlier with the amber alert, I have no
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Speaker 1: problem with it not being issued. There are certain requirements
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Speaker 1: that have to be met to issue those, and that's
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Speaker 1: the main reason for that is so that an amber
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Speaker 1: alert doesn't go out every single day, because when they
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Speaker 1: become commonplace, they become ignored. And it's not I mean,
21:57
Speaker 1: we just had a series of really had a heavy
22:00
Speaker 1: snow weather here in Kansas, and every two or three days,
22:04
Speaker 1: we'd get these huge warnings that there's snow mcgeddon's coming,
22:07
Speaker 1: We're all going to die, and I'd wake up in
22:09
Speaker 1: the morning. We had an inch on the ground to
22:12
Speaker 1: the point to where people stop listening. Who cares what
22:14
Speaker 1: the other man says? He doesn't know what he's talking about.
22:16
Speaker 1: You'll have that same effect if AMBRO alerts went out constantly.
22:21
Speaker 1: And so there's a reason for the priority cases, and
22:26
Speaker 1: they're supposed to be issued right when it happens, not weeks, months, days,
22:29
Speaker 1: years after the fact. As a law enforcement officer, the
22:33
Speaker 1: first day I'm going to find out for certain is
22:37
Speaker 1: where was the child the last time anybody saw it?
22:39
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't even find that, and looking through
22:42
Speaker 1: the article, I know that information. I had to research
22:45
Speaker 1: and research, make call after call to figure it out.
22:48
Speaker 1: I'm with you, where was the child last? I would
22:50
Speaker 1: be looking at the two parents for sure. I'd be
22:53
Speaker 1: looking at neighbors, and I would be looking at the
22:56
Speaker 1: CPS person in charge of the case. How do I
22:58
Speaker 1: know that he or she, probably she didn't have some
23:03
Speaker 1: weird psychosis and what their own baby? I mean, I
23:07
Speaker 1: would be looking at everybody most connected to the baby.
23:11
Speaker 1: What about that, Greg Smith? Absolutely, and then you can look,
23:14
Speaker 1: especially if you can establish some probable cause that one
23:18
Speaker 1: or more of these people may have caused some harm
23:21
Speaker 1: to this child. Now we can go and look at
23:23
Speaker 1: things like phone records, location to cell phones, where have
23:26
Speaker 1: they been? Those are areas that I would be sending
23:28
Speaker 1: officers Tom. You know, I can't find anything in the
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Speaker 1: public record of that happening. It may be going on
23:35
Speaker 1: behind the scenes, and I'm not aware about it. If
23:37
Speaker 1: it is, you know, kudos to them. If it's not,
23:40
Speaker 1: That's where I'd be heading is to try to find
23:42
Speaker 1: that information. Right now, we know that police are searching
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Speaker 1: a property. Take a listen to our cut six. This
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Speaker 1: is Andrew Colegrave w SAZ News. Multiple law enforcement agencies
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Speaker 1: are conducting a search at a property along We're out
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Speaker 1: thirty two close to Olive Hill and Carter County, Kentucky.
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Speaker 1: They say that this property is owned by Shannon Overstreet,
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Speaker 1: the father of that little girl, angel Nicole Overstreet, who
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Speaker 1: has been missing since early May. Has been a huge
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Speaker 1: mystery since then, many attempts to try to figure out
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Speaker 1: exactly what happened to her, where she is the City
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Speaker 1: of Huntington Communications Director Brian Chambers released a statement earlier
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Speaker 1: to night saying that the Huntington Police Department is working
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Speaker 1: with multiple law enforcement agencies on this search, also saying
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Speaker 1: that at this point, no one has been eliminated as
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Speaker 1: a suspect in the child's disappearance. So what would that entail? Mark?
24:38
Speaker 1: When they say mark class joining me everyone from Class
24:41
Speaker 1: Kids foundation, you can find him at Class Kids. That's
24:45
Speaker 1: klaas Kids dot org. Mark. When a property is searched,
24:53
Speaker 1: what typically do police do, and remember they're looking for
24:57
Speaker 1: a three month old baby girl. Well, depends on the
25:00
Speaker 1: size of the property. If there is water on the property,
25:03
Speaker 1: you're going to either have to send divers into the
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Speaker 1: water or you're going to have to drain the property itself.
25:10
Speaker 1: Depending on the acreage. You're probably going to bring in
25:13
Speaker 1: grid searchers to look to see if there's any recently
25:16
Speaker 1: upturned upturned ground. You're going to be bringing in cadaver
25:21
Speaker 1: dogs to see if they're able to pull up a scent,
25:23
Speaker 1: and you'll just continually do that until you have confidence
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Speaker 1: that you've eliminated that particular location. But the one thing
25:31
Speaker 1: about that report that really stands out to me is
25:34
Speaker 1: the fact that there are multiple law enforcement agencies involved,
25:38
Speaker 1: coming from both states and also including the FBI. Now,
25:42
Speaker 1: when you tell me that the FBI is involved in
25:45
Speaker 1: a missing person case, you're telling me that the agency
25:48
Speaker 1: with the most knowledge, the best training, and the best
25:51
Speaker 1: resources for this particular type of a situation are on
25:56
Speaker 1: the job. And that's something that should make us all
25:59
Speaker 1: feel a little bit or relieved that there is true
26:01
Speaker 1: professionalism involved in this investigation. You know, what he's saying
26:05
Speaker 1: is really interesting. How does the FED how do the
26:07
Speaker 1: fans get pulled into a case? Greg Smith? What brings
26:11
Speaker 1: in the FBI? Well, there's a couple of things that
26:13
Speaker 1: can do. At one. It can be something that crosses
26:15
Speaker 1: jurisdictional line, state lines, or it could be that the
26:19
Speaker 1: crime is going federal that's the way that it's going
26:22
Speaker 1: to be prosecuted. So they would be the lead agency.
26:25
Speaker 1: And in my daughter's case, when Kelsey went missing that evening,
26:29
Speaker 1: shortly after we couldn't find her and I was talking
26:33
Speaker 1: with the law enforcement officers that were there on the scene,
26:37
Speaker 1: I asked for the FBI to be brought in. And
26:41
Speaker 1: they can be asked to come in and help. They
26:44
Speaker 1: can't just force themselves in on a case we didn't
26:47
Speaker 1: know that Kelsey had crossed state line. She had, but
26:49
Speaker 1: we didn't know it at the time, so they were
26:52
Speaker 1: actually invited to come into the case and provided invaluable assistance.
26:56
Speaker 1: It's one thing I tell law enforcement in my trainings
26:59
Speaker 1: I give all over the United States. Don't be afraid
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Speaker 1: to call them in. This is not an insult to
27:04
Speaker 1: the competency of the local or state officers. It's just
27:08
Speaker 1: they have the training. Then they have an expertise that
27:11
Speaker 1: we may not have. And if somebody's missing, if a
27:14
Speaker 1: child is missing, especially, why not use every available resource
27:18
Speaker 1: you can pull in. You know what, that's right, Mark Class,
27:20
Speaker 1: give me the stats on the first seventy two hours
27:23
Speaker 1: of a child missing. Well, if a child is missing
27:29
Speaker 1: within three hours of a child being taken in a
27:32
Speaker 1: predatory type of abduction, seventy six percent of those children
27:36
Speaker 1: will be dead. If they're going to be murdered within
27:39
Speaker 1: twenty four hours of the incidents, if the child is
27:43
Speaker 1: going to be murdered, eighty eight point five percent of
27:46
Speaker 1: the children will be dead, which is another reason I
27:50
Speaker 1: think they worked into the judgment not to call an
27:53
Speaker 1: amber alert for a child that had already been missing
27:56
Speaker 1: for weeks. Yeah, statistically, you're right. Take a listen now
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Speaker 1: to Andrew Coalgrave WSAZ. Huntington police are hoping the public
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Speaker 1: can help solve the mystery of a three month old
28:09
Speaker 1: infant girls disappearance. Investigators are unable to confirm Angel over
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Speaker 1: Streets whereabouts since May eighth, according to a written statement
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Speaker 1: from Huntington Police. CPS representatives contacted the police department Monday,
28:22
Speaker 1: saying they had been asked to follow up with Angel's father,
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Speaker 1: Shannon over Street, regarding custody issues stemming out of Kentucky.
28:28
Speaker 1: CPS representatives also said the father told them that he
28:32
Speaker 1: had turned over Angel two CPS approximately two weeks earlier.
28:36
Speaker 1: So now we understand if you try to interpret what
28:41
Speaker 1: was just said. The search of the property yielded nothing,
28:44
Speaker 1: and police are now begging the public to help solve
28:47
Speaker 1: the case. Looking for clues as to a missing three
28:50
Speaker 1: month old baby girl, Angel Overstreet. Take a listen again
28:55
Speaker 1: to the Chief of Huntington Police Department, Ray Cornwell. Artifact
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Speaker 1: have executed search warrants at mister Overstreet's mother's residence where
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Speaker 1: he stays here in Huntington on his vehicle on several
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Speaker 1: digital devices. We are working with the Kentucky State Police
29:11
Speaker 1: to execute a search warrant at a property that he
29:13
Speaker 1: owns in all of Hill, Kentucky. We are working with
29:16
Speaker 1: the United States Marshal Service to locate any potential witnesses
29:19
Speaker 1: or persons who may have knowledge related to the location
29:22
Speaker 1: of this child. We're working with the FBI. They're assisting
29:26
Speaker 1: us with digital forensics and have offered any other additional
29:29
Speaker 1: resources that we may need, and also with the West
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Speaker 1: Virginia Intelligence Fusion Center regarding digital forensics. They're helping us out.
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Speaker 1: At this time, we have no specific evidence of foul play,
29:42
Speaker 1: but we are very concerned for the safety of Angel
29:45
Speaker 1: Nicole Overstreet and we imploringly ask anyone out there who
29:49
Speaker 1: has any knowledge related to her whereabouts to please come
29:52
Speaker 1: forward so that we can find this child and we
29:55
Speaker 1: can verify her safe. Zarah answers to a lot of
29:58
Speaker 1: the questions by Gregg's and Mark Class. We now know
30:02
Speaker 1: that they have served warrants or they're trying to get
30:05
Speaker 1: warrants on vehicles, digital devices such as cell phones, iPads, laptops.
30:12
Speaker 1: They're working with multiple law enforcement agencies. They're working with
30:17
Speaker 1: digital forensics, they brought in the US Marshals. They're doing
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Speaker 1: at all, but we still don't have Angel. That is correct.
30:24
Speaker 1: We still don't have the baby and Nancy. This baby
30:28
Speaker 1: was three months old when she went missing, and it
30:30
Speaker 1: has been close to a year, so she's been missing
30:35
Speaker 1: longer than she was known to be by her parents,
30:39
Speaker 1: her grandmother, social services. She's only three months old. It
30:43
Speaker 1: has been missing for almost ten months. To you, Alexis Treshak,
30:47
Speaker 1: what can you tell me about the search for the baby?
30:50
Speaker 1: What else are they doing? If anything, they have actually searched.
30:54
Speaker 1: They got to search warrants to search a property the
30:57
Speaker 1: father owns, and the property has a pond on it,
31:01
Speaker 1: so they actually are drained the pond to look and
31:04
Speaker 1: see if there was a body, which to me is
31:06
Speaker 1: a big signal that they don't actually maybe think this
31:09
Speaker 1: is a missing person and that they're maybe looking for
31:11
Speaker 1: a body. I disagree. I think that they're using parallel
31:15
Speaker 1: passive investigation. They've got to look for her actively and
31:18
Speaker 1: they've got to look for her as if she were dead.
31:21
Speaker 1: They have to do both time stories with Nancy Grace. Okay, everybody,
31:42
Speaker 1: get ready, I'm about to drop a bomb on you
31:45
Speaker 1: take a listen to our cut seven. This is Sean
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Speaker 1: de Lancy Fox eleven. The beating was so bad victim
31:51
Speaker 1: Connie Overstreet is going to have to undergo facial surgery
31:54
Speaker 1: to reconstruct the bones in her face just as she
31:57
Speaker 1: can see again. Connie over Street survived a beating that
32:01
Speaker 1: left her temporarily blind. She says, her son, twenty seven
32:05
Speaker 1: year old Shannon Overstreet, came to her home in Huntington
32:07
Speaker 1: last week unannounced. Soon they started yelling. Next thing I know,
32:11
Speaker 1: I got hit and there was blood coming out my eye,
32:16
Speaker 1: mine nose, my mouth. Connie says. She curled into a
32:20
Speaker 1: ball to protect herself. Court record say Shannon then started
32:23
Speaker 1: hitting her wherever he could reach, and I just finally
32:27
Speaker 1: it's gonna end, Cannah. I won't have to take it
32:31
Speaker 1: no more. Connie over Street prayed for death. I figured
32:35
Speaker 1: he was gonna kill me. That would be it. My
32:41
Speaker 1: guardian angel here stepped in. Is he the pit bulls
32:44
Speaker 1: and threw herself between Connie and her son, buying her
32:48
Speaker 1: time to run outside. Let me understand something. This piece
32:55
Speaker 1: of crap is who CPS let this little girl visit
33:06
Speaker 1: with Shannon Overstreet. He had visitation with his infant daughter.
33:18
Speaker 1: Did you just hear his own mother praying for death
33:24
Speaker 1: after he beat her? Nancy me, I step in here
33:27
Speaker 1: for just a minute. This is Kathleen, Yeah, I see.
33:30
Speaker 1: I see this every day. The courts are not protecting
33:34
Speaker 1: the children, They're protecting parental rights, and something has got
33:38
Speaker 1: to stop. This poor baby was not protected in any way,
33:43
Speaker 1: shape or form when she left the hospital. She had
33:46
Speaker 1: to leave with someone. Who did she leave the hospital with?
33:51
Speaker 1: And why didn't Social Services at that point intervene? Alexas
33:55
Speaker 1: trest Shape. Please correct me if I'm wrong. That's who
33:58
Speaker 1: CPS thought it was a good idea to let the
34:01
Speaker 1: baby have visitation with Shannon over Street. Not only did
34:05
Speaker 1: they think it was a good idea if they were
34:08
Speaker 1: apparently contacted that the baby had not been returned, and
34:12
Speaker 1: they waited at least a week to contact the police
34:16
Speaker 1: about it. The baby had been missing since the first
34:19
Speaker 1: of the month. They waited until at least the eighth
34:22
Speaker 1: of the month to contact the police. Mark Class, why
34:24
Speaker 1: are you defending them? Well, I'm not defending them. I mean,
34:28
Speaker 1: if they're not contacted by somebody that the child is missing,
34:31
Speaker 1: and if the father is going to say that he
34:33
Speaker 1: has been. The father's going to say what he said
34:38
Speaker 1: that he turned the child over two weeks ago. You've
34:40
Speaker 1: got a two week gap where absolutely nobody knows what's
34:44
Speaker 1: going on. Now. I think that something that the mother
34:46
Speaker 1: said is very, very telling. She said that it's finally
34:50
Speaker 1: going to be over and I won't have to take
34:52
Speaker 1: this anymore. This wasn't the first time this guy had
34:55
Speaker 1: beat this woman. I believe, in fact, he was under
34:57
Speaker 1: her protection order from her to stay away from her
35:01
Speaker 1: when he came and he tried to beat the life
35:03
Speaker 1: out of her. So we're looking at a really bad
35:05
Speaker 1: egg here, who knows how to manipulate people and knows
35:09
Speaker 1: how to manipulate circumstances in time to his advantage, and
35:13
Speaker 1: a guy mark class that CPS hand a baby over
35:17
Speaker 1: on a silver platter. What do you think he did
35:20
Speaker 1: the second or third time she started crying in the
35:22
Speaker 1: middle of the night. Now, I want you to take
35:24
Speaker 1: a listen to more of what this poc Shannon over
35:30
Speaker 1: Streets Own mother said our cut eight Fox eleven Connie says,
35:36
Speaker 1: without Izzie, she'd likely have died inside her home. She's
35:39
Speaker 1: everything to me. She's my hero. Like Guardian Angel, my
35:44
Speaker 1: reason for living. Police arrested Shannon and he's facing charges
35:48
Speaker 1: of malicious assault and breaking a protective order Connie already
35:52
Speaker 1: had against him. Connie needs surgery to repair her shattered
35:55
Speaker 1: face and broken auster here. Connie says Shannon was violent
36:00
Speaker 1: before and if she'd acted sooner, he never could have
36:03
Speaker 1: done this. She says other women could learn the same
36:06
Speaker 1: before it's too late. Timmny, women are just so. I mean,
36:13
Speaker 1: they think with their heart instead of their head. Shannon
36:18
Speaker 1: over Street is being held over at the Western Regional
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Speaker 1: Jail on a two hundred thousand dollars cash only bond.
36:24
Speaker 1: Alexas Tresha, let me understand something. Alexa is joining us
36:26
Speaker 1: from Crime online dot Com. So the Sun thirty eight
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Speaker 1: Shannon Overstreet is behind bars right now with felony malicious wounding.
36:39
Speaker 1: It's like an aggravated assault where the mom nearly loses
36:43
Speaker 1: her eye. I think that could be upgraded to aggravated battery.
36:46
Speaker 1: By the way, when you lose use of a limb
36:50
Speaker 1: like your arm, your eye, you're hearing, that's even worse
36:54
Speaker 1: than aggravated assault, where you are placed in immediate fear
37:00
Speaker 1: of serious bodily harm or death. He needs a double
37:03
Speaker 1: charge right there to keep him behind bars. My question
37:06
Speaker 1: is he's behind bars for viciously beating his mom almost blind.
37:12
Speaker 1: She's having to have surgery to repair her shattered face.
37:16
Speaker 1: When did the baby go missing? In relation to him
37:18
Speaker 1: going behind bars at Western Regional on the beating of
37:23
Speaker 1: his mother months earlier, the baby went missing, so the
37:26
Speaker 1: baby was already missing when he then went and beat
37:30
Speaker 1: up his mother and she was I know she said it,
37:33
Speaker 1: but she was rescued by her dog. Her pitful got
37:36
Speaker 1: in between it and attacked him. I mean, this is
37:39
Speaker 1: the most amazing story of loyalty of dogs. They never
37:42
Speaker 1: failed to amaze me. But this have been months, months
37:45
Speaker 1: and months, and CPS had there. Obviously, if you have
37:50
Speaker 1: a regular divorce, or even if you're not divorced, you
37:53
Speaker 1: have a baby with somebody, you all don't live together,
37:55
Speaker 1: you dropped them off on Mondays and Fridays and you
37:58
Speaker 1: do things. But for CPS to be involved, there was
38:00
Speaker 1: something obviously very very very very wrong, you know. Karen Stark,
38:07
Speaker 1: New York Psychologists joining us from Manhattan today. Karen, I've
38:11
Speaker 1: asked you this so many times and he always have
38:14
Speaker 1: some psycho related answer, and it never rings true to me.
38:24
Speaker 1: I'm going to give you an ever chance. What is
38:26
Speaker 1: wrong with these people? Well, Nancy, obviously, this is a
38:31
Speaker 1: guy who should not have been a parent, or a son,
38:34
Speaker 1: or a husband or a boyfriend. He's violent. He has
38:38
Speaker 1: a history of violence toward his own mother and not once.
38:43
Speaker 1: So there's something that is making him not have the
38:48
Speaker 1: kind of emotions that all of us have. Oh boo hoo.
38:51
Speaker 1: Don't start with him having a bad childhood. Something's making
38:55
Speaker 1: him not have emotions. He has emotions. They're evil, they're hateful,
39:01
Speaker 1: they're violent. Those are emotions. Care and start. Not everything
39:05
Speaker 1: is coated in love and kindness and rainbows and sprinkles.
39:12
Speaker 1: It's not a unicorn pooping Marshmallows. No, this guy is
39:17
Speaker 1: straight from hell. But exactly, I am agreeing with you
39:21
Speaker 1: that he did not see this as a baby. I
39:23
Speaker 1: can promise you that if he would do this to
39:26
Speaker 1: his own mother, Mark class, what would he do to
39:31
Speaker 1: a little baby at three am? When the baby's hungry
39:35
Speaker 1: and screaming her head off. You could ignore her, he
39:38
Speaker 1: could beat her, he could kill her. But one thing
39:40
Speaker 1: we know for certain is that he's not going to
39:42
Speaker 1: take her in his loving arms. And nurtured hers. Mark,
39:46
Speaker 1: Can I ask you a question. I think I've asked
39:48
Speaker 1: you before, but you've never really given me a satisfactory answer.
39:53
Speaker 1: How do you keep doing it? I'm curious. I keep
39:57
Speaker 1: doing it because it's my mission. I can live with
40:00
Speaker 1: myself if I ever stopped trying to solve crimes and
40:06
Speaker 1: help crime victims. But when you are looking at a
40:10
Speaker 1: guy like Shannon Overstreet, the baby's missing, beautiful little baby,
40:15
Speaker 1: it's like a baby doll. His mother is having surgery
40:19
Speaker 1: to have her face repaired, do you ever get sick
40:24
Speaker 1: of it? Just disgusted to the point that I don't
40:28
Speaker 1: know you want to do something completely different? Actually no,
40:32
Speaker 1: And the reason for that is because, well, there's a
40:36
Speaker 1: lot of breezes. Number one. For me, it's therapeutic, Nancy.
40:39
Speaker 1: This is what makes me feel alive is helping other
40:44
Speaker 1: families in these types of situations and getting guys like
40:47
Speaker 1: Shannon over Street off the street. We know who this
40:50
Speaker 1: guy is, we know what this guy is capable of,
40:53
Speaker 1: and we know that he needs to spend the rest
40:56
Speaker 1: of his time behind bars where he can't get his
40:58
Speaker 1: hands on a people anymore. So that's my mission, Nancy,
41:03
Speaker 1: that's my therapy. That's my reason for doing the things
41:06
Speaker 1: that I do. You know, every time I've ever even
41:09
Speaker 1: briefly thought I got to do something else, I just
41:15
Speaker 1: say case blue eyes looking at me smiling, I can't.
41:23
Speaker 1: I cannot stop. Greg Smith, how do you even when
41:26
Speaker 1: you're dealing with the lowest of the low of humans,
41:32
Speaker 1: and that would be child abusers and child killers, how
41:36
Speaker 1: do you just keep going forward? Well, you have to
41:39
Speaker 1: remember the good that you hope comes out of it.
41:42
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll be quite frank. In my twenty five
41:46
Speaker 1: years in law enforcement, even before my daughter was abducted
41:49
Speaker 1: and murdered, I never dealt well with people that committed
41:55
Speaker 1: those types of crimes. I just couldn't wrap my head
41:58
Speaker 1: around why you would want to do something like that
42:00
Speaker 1: to a child. And it's yeah, I mean, you have
42:05
Speaker 1: to be a really good actor when you're in an
42:07
Speaker 1: interview with these people, because sometimes you have to come
42:09
Speaker 1: across as their friend to get them to talk to you.
42:12
Speaker 1: And thank god, the majority of these people are not
42:15
Speaker 1: rocket scientists. I mean, it's a good thing that a
42:18
Speaker 1: lot of stupid people commit crimes, or we wouldn't solve
42:20
Speaker 1: as many crimes as we do. And so it's amazing
42:24
Speaker 1: sometimes what you can get from a person just by
42:27
Speaker 1: establishing a little bit of rapport, even though their behavior
42:30
Speaker 1: and what they've done absolutely repulses You're not well, I
42:33
Speaker 1: know this. People are furious, angry at what has become
42:38
Speaker 1: of this little angel. Angel Overstreet is her name? Why
42:43
Speaker 1: did it take child Protective Services? It just it tastes
42:47
Speaker 1: like dirt in my mouth when I call them protective services.
42:51
Speaker 1: Why it took them two weeks to act once they
42:57
Speaker 1: knew the baby was missing? Now we wonder if the
43:01
Speaker 1: case will ever be solved. The tip line three zero
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Speaker 1: four six nine six four four two zero an anonymous
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Speaker 1: tip line three zero four six nine six four four
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Speaker 1: four four please help us find Angel Nancy Gray's crime story,
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Speaker 1: signing off goodbye friend,