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Gordie Chiesa reacts to a refreshingly competitive and entertain NBA All Star Game, Goals for the Jazz the rest of the year + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: Us out.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get the latest on the Utah Jazz with former
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  Speaker 2: Jazz assistant coach Gordy Chiasa. If he's forgotten more about
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  Speaker 2: sabon Gordy Chiaysa on the Sean O'Connell show.
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  Speaker 3: Donaldconnell Show on ESPN seven hun and ninety two AFM.
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  Speaker 3: We welcome in Gordy Chiasa, our resident NBA guru, brought
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  Speaker 1: How are you, sir, Sean? I'm doing well. Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: All Star Weekend, NBA All Star Weekend big. I love
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  Speaker 3: what we saw from it. What was your reaction?
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  Speaker 1: Same thing also with a home run for the NBA.
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  Speaker 1: One was in La. So whenever it's in a huge
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  Speaker 1: city like La or New York, it's really happening. And
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  Speaker 1: the players in the All Star Game absolutely competed hard.
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  Speaker 1: So there was some doubt about whether the players would
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  Speaker 1: perform with intensity, and that was absolutely we saw a
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  Speaker 1: firsthand that they did and led by ironically by the
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  Speaker 1: young fellas of the of the World team. Victor wen
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  Speaker 1: Beyonba was a huge factor in that, and then also
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  Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards whose team won the one of the title.
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  Speaker 1: As far as his team was called the Stars and
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  Speaker 1: so they led the charge. They competed at a high
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  Speaker 1: level and everyone else was ready.
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  Speaker 3: To go to So, Gordy, the the competitiveness do you
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  Speaker 3: think it came more from the format the young guys,
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  Speaker 3: like you said, just kind of like getting the best
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  Speaker 3: out of everyone else where. Do you think that, I
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  Speaker 3: guess reinjected competitiveness came from the.
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  Speaker 1: Young fellers who happens in the NBA. It's almost like
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  Speaker 1: a pecking order where the veterans they understand it's really
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  Speaker 1: a long season, so they try to and these all
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  Speaker 1: star type games just to hang out. It's phanemous more
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  Speaker 1: of a global branding for the young guys. They want
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  Speaker 1: to prove themselves that they're equal, if not better than
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  Speaker 1: the more established players. So the winning team was just
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  Speaker 1: think about the winning team, it was the nicknamed the
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  Speaker 1: Stars with Devin Booker, Terse Maxi, Jealen Durham, Kate Cunningham,
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  Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards, Scottie Bonnch, Jalen Johnson, and Chet Hungren And
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  Speaker 1: so all those guys are between twenty one and twenty
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  Speaker 1: seven years old, and that's the eight less generation of
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  Speaker 1: players that are going to the American players now that
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  Speaker 1: are going to excel. And so they were ready for it.
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  Speaker 1: And Anthony Edwards, you know, you can make a discussion,
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  Speaker 1: he's a he's a budding Kobe Bryant the way he
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  Speaker 1: plays the game, but a lot of enthusiasm and he
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  Speaker 1: has passionate. He led the team and he was voted
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  Speaker 1: the MVP of the game, which ironically is showing the
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  Speaker 1: trophy name that the Kobe Bryant.
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  Speaker 3: Is it sustainable, Gordy, Are we going to see this
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  Speaker 3: be kind of the new norm for the NBA All
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  Speaker 3: Star Weekend?
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  Speaker 1: Yes? Yeah, the answer is they might tweak it, maybe
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  Speaker 1: twenty percent, but absolutely we'll see that. Becau, there's so
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  Speaker 1: many great world players and Giannis didn't play it also
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  Speaker 1: didn't play the shak Gilles Alexander. I mean, so Wembion
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  Speaker 1: was absolutely tremendous, and you know, he's the face of
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  Speaker 1: the NBA, and so is Anthony Edwards and other guys.
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  Speaker 1: To look at dantec ohth to the face of the NBA.
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  Speaker 1: But the young players really were ready to roll, and
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  Speaker 1: they did. Let's give a quick recap though the v
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  Speaker 1: he of the game we mentioned Anthony Edwards. The slim
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  Speaker 1: Duck contest winner was a mammy. He a guy named
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  Speaker 1: Kashawn Johnson, and he won one hundred and five thousand
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  Speaker 1: dollars Sewan for as far as winning the gun dunk contest,
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  Speaker 1: the three point Shooting contest was led by former Weavers,
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  Speaker 1: State great and Oakland native Dame Lillard. He wont fifty
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  Speaker 1: thousand dollars for it and made it so interesting. He's
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  Speaker 1: coming with a left achilles surgery rehabbing, so he had
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  Speaker 1: to really play that at all since last April and
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  Speaker 1: be able to shoot like that. And I shootout with
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  Speaker 1: Devin Brooker, who was sensational. Now he's the He ties
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  Speaker 1: Larry Broade and Craig Hodges as the only three time
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  Speaker 1: winner of the three point shooting contest. Last point about that,
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  Speaker 1: he's now challenged Steph Curry the next year when it's
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  Speaker 1: going to be in Phoenix the All Star Game, and
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  Speaker 1: they have like a galaxy of all the great shooters
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  Speaker 1: in the NBA, all at one time played in It's
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  Speaker 1: almost like, Okay, Corral Shootout in Phoenix next year, Arty.
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  Speaker 3: Jesus our guests here on the Sean O'Connell Show ESPN
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  Speaker 3: seven hundred and ninety two to one FM. So how
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  Speaker 3: do you not that the NBA was struggling or anything
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  Speaker 3: like that, But but how do you capitalize on this
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  Speaker 3: All Star weekend positivity? If you're the NBA. A lot
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  Speaker 3: of the conversation leading up to this in the media
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  Speaker 3: at least, was about, oh, tanking, how do you fix tanking?
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  Speaker 3: Utah Jazz are tanking this way and we don't like it.
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  Speaker 3: The Pacers are tanking the other way. We're gonna ignore
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  Speaker 3: all the other teams that are tanking. And I mean
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  Speaker 3: there was there's some serious negativity in a conversational standpoint
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  Speaker 3: around the NBA. I don't know, I don't expect this
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  Speaker 3: weekend to completely wash it away. But if you're the league,
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  Speaker 3: if you're the players in the league, if you're the
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  Speaker 3: coaches in the league, how do you capitalize on the warm,
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  Speaker 3: fuzzy feelings that your fans have for you right now.
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  Speaker 1: I always have been talking about it by messaging that
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  Speaker 1: the game was great the weekend. There were so many
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  Speaker 1: compelling stories. It was a stand engagement to the extreme,
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  Speaker 1: and everybody felt that it was the NBA with their
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  Speaker 1: best foot forward. Now, remember it's a business. It's a
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  Speaker 1: multi billion dollar business and if you're NBC Sports and
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  Speaker 1: the other partners as far as the media, that you
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  Speaker 1: have to make money from this and they know that,
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  Speaker 1: and so it's the messaging. That's how you present it
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  Speaker 1: all the time. But the best message is about the
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  Speaker 1: visualization how the players performed, because the players are the
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  Speaker 1: talent and that's the most important thing. We never forget
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  Speaker 1: that when you're coach in the NBA, where in the NFL,
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  Speaker 1: the players are number one because without the talent, the
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  Speaker 1: fans don't go to the game. And we all know that,
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  Speaker 1: and that's why the players performed, and you have to
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  Speaker 1: encourage them each year, make it even more intense as
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  Speaker 1: far as playing in the All Star Game, and yesteryear
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  Speaker 1: it was a price factor. Now it's more of an
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  Speaker 1: element of price factor. But also now with the global
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  Speaker 1: of the NBA and now it's more of a foreign
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  Speaker 1: versus Americans. As far as who's better, it's an American game.
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  Speaker 1: But in the early nineteen eighties, that's when the foreign
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  Speaker 1: players started emerging, led by the NBA and led by
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  Speaker 1: the college NBA coaches that taught those guys the game.
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  Speaker 3: Gordy, give me a sense of now how the tone
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  Speaker 3: in the locker room shifts post All Star weekend. You're
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  Speaker 3: heading down the home stretch. You know, your regular season
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  Speaker 3: games all get a little bit more important things like that.
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  Speaker 3: Is there a market shift for coaches and players now
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  Speaker 3: that the All Star weekend is in the rear view, Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Very much. Well, here's the first part about that is
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  Speaker 1: that if you're a playoff bound team, it's accelerated. Is that,
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  Speaker 1: as I say often rookies, you're a rookie until All
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  Speaker 1: Star weekend, and after All Star weekend, the rookies that
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  Speaker 1: play in a regular rotation for playoff bound teams, they've
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  Speaker 1: become first year players and now their allies of the
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  Speaker 1: veterans on the team. Before that there were rookies, and
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  Speaker 1: now the veterans of those playoffs bound teams, they want
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  Speaker 1: those rookies, which now first year players, to play with
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  Speaker 1: defensive urgency, be more physical and understand crucial late game execution.
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  Speaker 1: You're no longer a young fellow where we give you
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  Speaker 1: a chance to ease in. We're heading to the playoffs
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  Speaker 1: and we want you to be able to get onto
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  Speaker 1: the court and help us. So it's absolutely accelerated. And
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  Speaker 1: the good teams they embrace that. Now the lesser teams
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  Speaker 1: now comes that what you mentioned for about tanking, and
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  Speaker 1: it's unfortunate because the best way to get better in
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  Speaker 1: the NBA is there through the draft, but it's an
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  Speaker 1: unknown science and they yet to be very patient. And
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  Speaker 1: that's what makes it so interesting. Where we know it
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  Speaker 1: does work, you should have to this thunder that and
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  Speaker 1: also the first but it took the Charlotte Hornets many
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  Speaker 1: years to do it. And so that's what the problem is.
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  Speaker 1: That there's two forces. The teams that playoff teams they're
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  Speaker 1: really fighting biting klawn to get a better seat. And
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  Speaker 1: those eight teams basically that want to get in the
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  Speaker 1: lottery to pick they believe a generational type player will
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  Speaker 1: help their franchise quickly. Sean, it's the eight teams that
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  Speaker 1: are probably quote tanking, Wizards, Pacers, Nets, Grizzlies, MAVs, Jazz, Pelicans,
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  Speaker 1: and Kings. By the way, the Kings have lost fourteen
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  Speaker 1: straight games, the Mas have lost nine straight games, and
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  Speaker 1: the lost four straight games. And so that's an illustration
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  Speaker 1: of those teams. Now, sometimes the player is shown don't cooperate.
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  Speaker 1: So if you're a guy playing in those games, hey,
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  Speaker 1: I want to win. And that's when it gets interesting.
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  Speaker 3: Those teams that you mentioned, and obviously the Jazz have
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  Speaker 3: been fined, Will any of these other teams get fined
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  Speaker 3: for tanking before the year's over?
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  Speaker 1: Yes? Yeah, they picked on the Jazz for some reason. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I have a real problem that why they was on
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  Speaker 1: the need of the Jets. You could you could pick
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  Speaker 1: those other eight seven or eight teams the same, the
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  Speaker 1: same fine. Also, so I wish out behind closed doors
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  Speaker 1: to find out why it happened that way. So the
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  Speaker 1: listeners right now Sean's alluding to the Jazz are fined
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  Speaker 1: five hundred thousand dollars by the NBA for not playing
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  Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter they're starters, which is such a
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  Speaker 1: gray area. And also they find the paces one hundred
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  Speaker 1: thousand dollars, and so it's a it's a fine line, Sewan.
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  Speaker 1: And so now I don't I don't want the NBA
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  Speaker 1: to tell the coach or a team who to play
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  Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. That's a bad, bad dialogue to
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  Speaker 1: start that process. So we'll see if how it all
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  Speaker 1: plays out. He only knows the answer truly until it
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  Speaker 1: plays out. In March will be the Board of Governors meeting,
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  Speaker 1: which means only owners are going to try to work
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  Speaker 1: together and have some sort of commonality of how they
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  Speaker 1: can fix this problem. Yet still understand the power of
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  Speaker 1: the draft. If you draft the right guys as a
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  Speaker 1: high draft pick, it really helps your franchise to accelerate
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  Speaker 1: to winning. So example in Jeff Basketball, but they picked
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  Speaker 1: less less your Ace Bailey. You get the feeling that
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  Speaker 1: ash Billy has the potential and he's only nineteen years old,
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  Speaker 1: but he has the upside to be an absolutely tremendous
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  Speaker 1: NBA player. He could be an All Star because he
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  Speaker 1: has enough talent as far as bounciness and to develop
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  Speaker 1: his ball skills to be an All Star someday. And
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  Speaker 1: so you're picking guys like that in the draft. Will
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  Speaker 1: say of a three or four year period, you get
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  Speaker 1: it right. So we'll say most of the time your
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  Speaker 1: team will be in the playoffs in their future. And
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  Speaker 1: again that was disposed right now where the Spurs that
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  Speaker 1: Sean had picked unbelievable as far as in the draft,
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  Speaker 1: and know Wen beyond is always the people always talking
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  Speaker 1: about Wehn BEYONMBA all the time, and they should. But
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  Speaker 1: also they picked Stephen Cassel as the second the fourth
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  Speaker 1: pick back in two thousand and twenty four, and Dylan
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  Speaker 1: Harper last year at the second pick also, and they
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  Speaker 1: also picked Kelvin Johnson in the first round in twenty nineteen,
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  Speaker 1: and so they have a lot of other picks beside
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  Speaker 1: Wen Beyonba and that's why now they're sitting in the
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  Speaker 1: Western Conference as the second best record thirty eight and sixteen,
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  Speaker 1: and member Sean last year the Spurs were thirty four
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  Speaker 1: and forty eight. So the Spurs have more wins right
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  Speaker 1: now with twenty seven games left than he did last
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  Speaker 1: year the whole season. What's your list today, Gordy, My
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  Speaker 1: list today, Sean is about somewhat Chris Paul. Chris Paul
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  Speaker 1: retired after twenty one unbelievable seasons in the NBA. This
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  Speaker 1: today is the most Korea regular season games one by
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  Speaker 1: an individual player, most career wins regular season by individual player. Now,
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  Speaker 1: a player needs teammates to win games, and so it's
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  Speaker 1: a short list of only of only twelve names. What
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  Speaker 1: is some of the attributes and intangibles required to be
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  Speaker 1: to be a Korea winner. One you have to be
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  Speaker 1: impact on yourself via scoring, assisting and rebounding. Two you
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  Speaker 1: have to maintain superior condition and core strength. Three you
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  Speaker 1: have to have a youthful a youthful mental focus like
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  Speaker 1: I say Lebron James, a mental focus as a as
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  Speaker 1: a youthful person. Four grateful to have other talented sidekicks
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  Speaker 1: to help you win. And five you're blessed to have
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  Speaker 1: only one or none careering and during surgeries meaning injuries,
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  Speaker 1: and so you have to be remain healthy your whole career.
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  Speaker 1: Here we go. Number eleventh all time in most Korea
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  Speaker 1: wins is a tie Kobe Bryant and Cliff Robinson. They
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  Speaker 1: both have eight hundred and thirty sixth career wins. Cliff
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  Speaker 1: Robbins played in the NBA for eighteen years. Kobe played
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  Speaker 1: in the NBA with the Lakers for twenty years. Number
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  Speaker 1: ten all time Derek Fisher eight hundred and fifty three
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  Speaker 1: wins in eighteen seasons. Number nine, Chris Paul just retired.
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  Speaker 1: He had eight hundred and fifty five Korea wins in
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  Speaker 1: twenty one brilliant seasons. Number eight, Tony Parker eight hundred
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  Speaker 1: and ninety two wins in eighteen seasons with the Spurs,
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  Speaker 1: seventeen and one with the Charlotte Hornets. Number seven, Dirk
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  Speaker 1: Nowitzki nine hundred and sixteen wins with the Dallas Mavericks
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  Speaker 1: twenty one seasons. Number six cal Ma Malone all time,
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  Speaker 1: nine hundred and fifty two wins in nineteen seasons, eighteen
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  Speaker 1: years with the Jazz, one year with the Lakers. Number
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  Speaker 1: five all time, John Stockton nine hundred and fifty three
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  Speaker 1: wins nineteen incredible seasons with the Jazz. Number four all time,
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  Speaker 1: Tim Duncan one thousand and one win in nineteen seasons
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  Speaker 1: with the Spurs. Number three all time, Robert Parrish one
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  Speaker 1: thy fourteen and twenty one seasons. The second greatest winner
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  Speaker 1: of all time regular season is Lebron James one thousand
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  Speaker 1: and thirty one Korea wins in twenty three seasons and
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  Speaker 1: spoke counting and the number one player for most wins
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  Speaker 1: ever in an NBA Korea regular season is Kareem Abdul
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  Speaker 1: Jabbar one thousand and seventy four. So Lebron's going to
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  Speaker 1: break that record of Kareem if he plays next season,
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  Speaker 1: whatever team, whether the Lakers or not.
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  Speaker 2: US.
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  Speaker 1: That's my list of today, all the Korea greatest winners.
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  Speaker 1: So Jets have two players in there, Karl Malone and
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  Speaker 1: John Stockton.
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  Speaker 3: You mentioned Lebron. He's been pretty noncommittal about his future plans.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think he plays next year?
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  Speaker 1: I do, But the question is Sean is where? That's
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  Speaker 1: the question. So it's going to be drawn out, I get,
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  Speaker 1: especially in the playoffs, So I just say the Lakers,
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  Speaker 1: Remember the Lakers, they have a playoff type team that's built,
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  Speaker 1: and so Luca Dante and Lebron and Austin Reeves have
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  Speaker 1: only played together ten games so far this season this
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  Speaker 1: ten games total, and the Lakers right the Lakers right
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  Speaker 1: now are the fifth seed, and so they should be
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  Speaker 1: able to get minimum into the second round and then
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  Speaker 1: we'll see how it plays out Lebron's career, how he
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  Speaker 1: feels about his team, etc. I know it's not about
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  Speaker 1: money totally, as it always is somewhat, but in Lebron's cases,
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  Speaker 1: not totally. It's the right fit to try to get
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  Speaker 1: another championship, so it's going to be interesting and Lebron
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  Speaker 1: type players at the end of their career, they're always
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  Speaker 1: trying to get as money wins as they can, as
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  Speaker 1: far as to go deep in the playoffs to get
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  Speaker 1: that magical Another ring right.
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  Speaker 3: Now, that's Gordychias. That brought to you by a Latin Industries.
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  Speaker 3: We'll talk with them again on Thursday, as he remains
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  Speaker 3: the best in the business as an NBA insider. Thanks again,
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  Speaker 3: Gordy
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  Speaker 1: Thanks Sean, peace out, say well