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Rafael Devers tantrum, Pirates interference, Skubal-White Sox beef · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Happy Monday people. Josh Harrison, it's here. Let's go.
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  Speaker 2: Two former pirates. Wow, two former pirates on the show.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna have to start the show off with some
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  Speaker 2: pirate stock.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, thank you.
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  Speaker 2: But Jay, Hey, great to see you man. You've been
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  Speaker 2: having fun on Bucco Territory.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, man, it's been a blast.
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  Speaker 4: Kept me in the game and uh, you know, it's
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  Speaker 4: always good to keep up with your former team, and
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  Speaker 4: you know see how the city's been doing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's been a better year to cover the
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  Speaker 2: team than the last several years. So it's been exciting.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to get into them coming up in just
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  Speaker 2: a moment.
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  Speaker 1: Before we do.
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  Speaker 2: It was Father's Day yesterday, so happy Father's Day to
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  Speaker 2: both of you.
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  Speaker 1: This was my favorite tweet crafts from the weekend.
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  Speaker 3: C J.
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  Speaker 2: Abrams had a home run in each game over the
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  Speaker 2: weekend for the Nationals and he was hanging out with
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  Speaker 2: his dad. So this is Spencer Nussbaum, who was just
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  Speaker 2: on the show the other day last week and he's
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  Speaker 2: part of District Territory on the Ft Network. He said
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  Speaker 2: this was at the time when he hit his second
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  Speaker 2: on the weekend. He hit another one the next stay,
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  Speaker 2: but Nusbom tweeted that is back to back games with
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  Speaker 2: a home run for CJ. Abrams, who seems empowered by
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  Speaker 2: the father's day trip. He and his dad have a
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  Speaker 2: little phone bat in the hotel room and they were
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  Speaker 2: taking VP in the room. Asked if it might have
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  Speaker 2: helped him. Abrams said it might have, and then again
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  Speaker 2: he homer the next day. So people were joking they're
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  Speaker 2: gonna have to take that phone bat around and he's
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  Speaker 2: gonna have to do hotel room VP before or after
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  Speaker 2: every single game, because clearly that's working for him. Kratz,
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  Speaker 2: I love those stories.
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  Speaker 5: Hey tell me, tell me you're not wrong. If a
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  Speaker 5: man gets two homers, there's one other person on the
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  Speaker 5: team that bought a phone bat, and it's just at
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  Speaker 5: least like getting somebody to flip some balls to him, know.
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  Speaker 3: Oh for sure. And it was a dad's trip.
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  Speaker 4: You know, somebody said a pops I almost send a
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  Speaker 4: klobby to go to Kroger Walmart something, you know, a
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  Speaker 4: s hand by coordination, man, keep it simple.
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  Speaker 5: Learn, learn from the best, you learn, you go back,
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  Speaker 5: You go back to like what brought you into the game,
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  Speaker 5: like a phone bat. Hey, dad rolling on the ground
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  Speaker 5: to me, I might need to and you get right,
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  Speaker 5: you feel good, get a haircut, you feel good.
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  Speaker 6: Dad comes in, you feel good. Whatever it takes to
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  Speaker 6: hit dangers.
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  Speaker 2: M h feel good, play good. I like that a lot. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: let's dive in.
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  Speaker 6: Let's charge on that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna start with.
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  Speaker 2: The Pirates and get a check on where they're at
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  Speaker 2: with Jay hey here, So they dropped a series in Colorado.
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  Speaker 2: That's not what you want. It's the worst team in
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  Speaker 2: the National League. They have played much better than last year,
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  Speaker 2: but I mean, these are some games, Jay Hay, where
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  Speaker 2: it's like bases loaded, You've got opportunities in the ninth inning,
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  Speaker 2: and they're now coming through against one of the worst
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  Speaker 2: teams in baseball. We also had the runners interference play,
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  Speaker 2: which we can get into. That's Billy Cook, who was
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  Speaker 2: running from second to third, knocks the glove of Cairos
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  Speaker 2: for Colorado and that turns into what would have been
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  Speaker 2: a run to tie the game instead and out. So
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  Speaker 2: your thoughts on this weekend set for the Pirates and
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  Speaker 2: what they look like going forward. I know that they
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  Speaker 2: have significant bullpen issues, but does it look like this
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  Speaker 2: team has a chance to get through a somewhat difficult
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  Speaker 2: National League wild card picture and be a real contender at.
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  Speaker 1: Least through the season.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not even saying can they make the playoffs? Like
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  Speaker 2: can they stay in this race and be within a
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  Speaker 2: couple of games in September?
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  Speaker 4: Man, looking at this weekend, obviously you go to Colorado, Cratzy,
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  Speaker 4: Correct me if I'm wrong. Man, that's one trip that
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  Speaker 4: every hitter has circled, you know, going to course Field.
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  Speaker 4: Oh man, I'm looking forward to, you know, just missing
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  Speaker 4: one and you know, being rewarded, you know, offensively. But man,
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  Speaker 4: they've been going through a little rough patch, you know,
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  Speaker 4: as a whole. You mentioned relief pitching, you know, as
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  Speaker 4: a whole lately.
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  Speaker 3: You know, at one.
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  Speaker 4: Point starting pitchers had a little struggle, and then you
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  Speaker 4: couple that, you know, with not playing that great of
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  Speaker 4: defense and having some injuries to some key guys you
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  Speaker 4: expect to have, you know, some hardship. But as you mentioned, man,
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  Speaker 4: they're still in the thick of it in a wild
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  Speaker 4: card here we are, and you know, mid June, all
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  Speaker 4: you can ask for, especially when you're missing some key guys,
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  Speaker 4: is to keep your head above water. And you know
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  Speaker 4: how the season started for these guys with the energy
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  Speaker 4: that you.
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  Speaker 3: Know P and C.
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  Speaker 4: Broom from you know opening day to you know kind
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  Speaker 4: of Griffin making is you know, debut and you know
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  Speaker 4: them getting off to a good start. There's a lot
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  Speaker 4: of energy that's around P and C and Pittsburgh that
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  Speaker 4: hasn't been felt in a long time.
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  Speaker 3: But as I said, here they.
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  Speaker 4: Are in the middle of June, kind of the middle
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  Speaker 4: of things where you know, on the outside looking in,
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  Speaker 4: but still you know, within striking range. I think more
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  Speaker 4: than anything, they're they're looking to get their guys healthy,
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  Speaker 4: and as those guys come back, you still want to
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  Speaker 4: be in the thick of things because as that happens,
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  Speaker 4: you have an opportunity to say, hey, we're looking to add.
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  Speaker 3: But with that, you have to go into Colorado.
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  Speaker 4: Like teams against Colorado, you have to win those series
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  Speaker 4: because you know it's only going to get harder and
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  Speaker 4: harder as the season goes. So looking at this weekend,
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  Speaker 4: definitely some disappointing losses on their end. You mentioned the
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  Speaker 4: second game of what they would call a controversial call.
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  Speaker 3: That's baseball.
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  Speaker 4: But they've had a lot of losses this year that
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  Speaker 4: they probably could prevented and Obviously in these moments they
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  Speaker 4: get magnified because you know you're getting closer to the
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  Speaker 4: trade deadline and you know things are starting to shape up.
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  Speaker 4: So every win, every loss is you know, going to
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  Speaker 4: be magnified that much more. But you know they all
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  Speaker 4: count the same at my book.
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  Speaker 5: Hey Jay, Hey, first of all, Daniel McCutcheon is not
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  Speaker 5: pitching on the mound. This is not a lugo play
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  Speaker 5: at the plate. Okay, this is not the situation. This
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  Speaker 5: is a team that is ready to make the playoffs.
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  Speaker 5: But all those things you mentioned were highs Connor Griffin
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  Speaker 5: all opening day, we have all these like we have
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  Speaker 5: all these new signings, Paul Skins is still around. Then
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  Speaker 5: Connor Griffin gets called up. Then you have a little,
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  Speaker 5: you know, some Pittsburgh magic. When the adrenaline wears off,
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  Speaker 5: or when the like magic wears off. What kind of
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  Speaker 5: team do they have? They have a team that should
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  Speaker 5: play good defense, but they sacrifice that a little bit
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  Speaker 5: for offense. They should pitch really well. I think they're
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  Speaker 5: starting pitching has proved and they should find somebody in
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  Speaker 5: the bullpen to be able to make these make these
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  Speaker 5: leads that they do get hold up. But the reality
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  Speaker 5: is it seems like a little bit of their adrenalines
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  Speaker 5: worn off. Paul Schimes, I think his last five outings
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  Speaker 5: they haven't won, and he's given out less than two
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  Speaker 5: runs in each seven outings. I'm sorry, seven outys and
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  Speaker 5: so that kind of thing. You need these guys to
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  Speaker 5: step up. You need the guys who you signed to
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  Speaker 5: step up. Ohearns now back and healthy. You need Brian
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  Speaker 5: Reynolds to be the guy that I think he should
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  Speaker 5: be the best hitter on the team consistently. And I
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  Speaker 5: think this is where this will be the make or
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  Speaker 5: break the rate of five hundred make or break? What
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  Speaker 5: way do you want to go when you react to
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  Speaker 5: losing to a team in Colorado? I would have said
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  Speaker 5: on Friday, hey, this is a huge series. Let's go
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  Speaker 5: in there. When two most likely three from Colorado, it
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  Speaker 5: went the opposite way. So now how do you react,
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  Speaker 5: how do you make how do you make the adjustment?
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  Speaker 3: And how happened? Right now? You can't wait for it
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  Speaker 3: to happen.
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• 7:15
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  Speaker 2: been playing really well, and it's kind of like life
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  Speaker 2: support for them to try and get themselves back closer
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  Speaker 2: to the five hundred mark or else we're just going
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  Speaker 2: to talk about Errek School every day all day until
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  Speaker 2: he gets traded. Astros Blue Jays gets a little bit
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  Speaker 2: interesting now too. Kratz is, the Stros are playing better,
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  Speaker 2: and I think they have the second best record over
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  Speaker 2: the past month in the American League. You've got yourd On,
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  Speaker 2: You've got Hater, You've got Hunter Brown, and the Mariners
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  Speaker 2: are certainly not running away with the division.
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  Speaker 3: They're not.
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  Speaker 5: Here's where the Astros, if they can pitch, they can
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  Speaker 5: certainly hit where the Mariners and the rest of the
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  Speaker 5: American League can't really hit that much. So hey, if
• 7:53
  Speaker 5: the Astros can hit, they can figure out this pitching
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  Speaker 5: with Hunter Brown. And I don't know, I still think
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  Speaker 5: they're a team that's five under five games under five hundred.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, they're sixteen and eleven in their past twenty
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  Speaker 2: seven games.
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  Speaker 2: Great, but for that stretch that's actually the second best
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• 8:16
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  Speaker 2: a bunch of negative run deferentials. Yeah, it's stinky.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's definitely, you know, that's part of baseball. But
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  Speaker 4: and we're still covering, you know, talking to Yankees and
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  Speaker 4: the Tigers, and I was actually, you know, looking at
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• 8:41
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• 8:45
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  Speaker 4: perfect guy as ready for the ball, and I think
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  Speaker 2: Reynolds has been really good, by the way.
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  Speaker 3: He's been having a good year for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, top twenty in ops on the season after last
• 9:49
  Speaker 2: year being below average by ops plus by league standards there.
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  Speaker 2: So I mean he's definitely been the best bat on
• 9:56
  Speaker 2: the team. I guess you could probably put Brandon Lao
• 9:59
  Speaker 2: second there, right, Yeah, and of course they're missing crews
• 10:02
  Speaker 2: who had some really good moments. But I don't know
• 10:05
  Speaker 2: what the timetable is for him. The offense hasn't really
• 10:08
  Speaker 2: been the problem, but yeah, you can't go seven starts
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  Speaker 2: where they're losing skiing starts. You can't have the bullpen issues,
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  Speaker 2: and then I mentioned this, and I looked it up
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  Speaker 2: specifically because I was popping in and out of games
• 10:18
  Speaker 2: watching them over the weekend. Friday bases loaded down or
• 10:21
  Speaker 2: run strikeout, double play, Saturday bases loaded one out down
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  Speaker 2: a run strikeout, and then the interference play. And technically
• 10:32
  Speaker 2: I know that they were a little pissed Jay Hey,
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  Speaker 2: but the OMPs got it right. They didn't make the
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  Speaker 2: call initially, but then they got together and they made
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  Speaker 2: the right call. I mean, there was contact with Kiris's glove.
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  Speaker 3: That's it.
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  Speaker 2: That's interference right there. So maybe he just wanted to
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  Speaker 2: make sure someone else saw it too. And it's tough
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  Speaker 2: to catch that if you look at it first blush
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  Speaker 2: live even on TV, right, you don't really see it.
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  Speaker 2: And then the replay is clear.
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  Speaker 4: Well typically you'll see you know, a collision, not necessarily
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  Speaker 4: a collision, but you'll see something where arms or foot,
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  Speaker 4: where a guy jumped out the way it was so
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  Speaker 4: you know minute that you know he kind of impeded
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  Speaker 4: the ball, but at the same time it was trying
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  Speaker 4: to get around and Carrols also has a third basement.
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  Speaker 4: It's charging that ball, like, hey, I gotta do a
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  Speaker 4: do or die play and I don't think Carross was
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  Speaker 4: you know, doing that play to try to get an interference,
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  Speaker 4: but he was also like, if I hesitate, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 4: get this in between hot And what happened is just
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  Speaker 4: a situation where I mean, it's one of those things
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  Speaker 4: you I mean, baseball is going on. How long you
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  Speaker 4: haven't seen this play happen to where a guy actually
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  Speaker 4: ends the game this way, usually the ball to hit
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  Speaker 4: a runner. You know, these are things that, as you mentioned,
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  Speaker 4: they still had opportunity to win the game before that moment.
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  Speaker 4: So when we're talking a pirate scheme seven starts, I
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  Speaker 4: think a lot of it, honestly has been some defensive miscues,
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  Speaker 4: not having you know, some timely hitting, and you know,
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  Speaker 4: when you're not winning your starts of a guy that's
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  Speaker 4: your horse like that, I mean, what is that saying
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  Speaker 4: about a you know, the other four starters that you
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  Speaker 4: know may not be a guy at you pretty much
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  Speaker 4: saying as an automatic win. And I think you got
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  Speaker 4: a team that's still learning how to win. You got
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  Speaker 4: these pieces that came in and you know, have shown
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  Speaker 4: how to you know, go about the business every day.
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  Speaker 4: But there's still a thing about crats. You understand showing
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  Speaker 4: up every day and learning how to win these close
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  Speaker 4: games in these moments. And I think what you're seeing
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  Speaker 4: as a team that is still trying to find how
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  Speaker 4: to win those games in those moments.
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  Speaker 5: I think they have a shot. I still think they're
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  Speaker 5: in this thing. I really do.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree with you. They're just in their
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  Speaker 2: rough stretch. They've lost ten to fifteen. They need to
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  Speaker 2: get bullpen help base happen. The reason why they can
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  Speaker 2: before the trade deadline. But this is big crats because
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: this does happen every year. They can dangle something that
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  Speaker 2: actually has a deadline to it. I think we talked
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  Speaker 2: about it with Ken last week, and I don't remember
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  Speaker 2: if I read it or we talked to Ken about
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  Speaker 2: it or both. But they have the thirty fourth overall pick.
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  Speaker 2: That's a compic that they're able to trade. You have
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  Speaker 2: to trade it before the draft, though, so that's significant. Well,
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  Speaker 2: I mean it's a few weeks right before two weeks
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  Speaker 2: before the actual trade deadline, so they need to get
• 13:05
  Speaker 2: that done. And the comp was Brian Baker from the
• 13:09
  Speaker 2: Orioles to the Rays, and they give up a compick
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  Speaker 2: so you can get a controllable reliever or I don't
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  Speaker 2: think you're going to get a rental because I think
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: teams will hold off on the top two or three
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  Speaker 2: high leverage arms, but they could get somebody pretty valuable
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  Speaker 2: that they can maybe control for another couple of years.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm sure they're shopping that right now and they
• 13:24
  Speaker 2: need that kind of help asap, which just the prices
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  Speaker 2: stay high right now while so many teams are in it.
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: Hey a little home run derby news.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to start to get that leading into All
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: Star festivities. Jor Don Alvarez is a no for the
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: home run Derby. I don't know if you got an
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  Speaker 2: official invite, it doesn't matter. He would have said no.
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  Speaker 2: He is one of the best hitters in baseball, one
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  Speaker 2: of the best power hitters in the game. He missed
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: a good chunk of last year Crad's no surprise. I
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  Speaker 2: did not expect him to participate. I know it sucks,
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: but I did not expect him to participate.
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  Speaker 6: I want to see it, although it might be boring.
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  Speaker 6: He might just keep hitting him.
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  Speaker 5: He might go twenty for twenty and everyone else will
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  Speaker 5: just be like, I guess I'm not trying. He's such
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  Speaker 5: a good hitter A Oh well, oh well, it's fine.
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  Speaker 5: It's fine. I'm not mad. I'm not mad. There's plenty
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  Speaker 5: of other good.
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  Speaker 3: Hitters there are. Yeah, for sure. I agree with you,
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  Speaker 3: especially with the new rules too.
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  Speaker 4: He definitely might have gone twenty for twenty, so well,
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  Speaker 4: you might want to see guys like that. At the
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  Speaker 4: same time, you know, health is priority and if I'm
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  Speaker 4: sure he's got a valid reason, and it sucks.
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  Speaker 3: But as you said, there's other guys out there that
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: can fill.
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  Speaker 2: In anyone real quick that you guys are thinking about
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: that you definitely want to see in the Derby this year.
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: I'll go first.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd like to see Junior Commonero. It's easy to
• 14:43
  Speaker 4: like easy pop watching them, so I think i'd like
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  Speaker 4: to see him.
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  Speaker 1: He was in last year, right to be Yeah.
• 14:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and he wants to be set on the show.
• 14:51
  Speaker 5: He's like, I want to win it. He also wants
• 14:53
  Speaker 5: a million dollars. I like the hungry dudes that want
• 14:55
  Speaker 5: a million obviously, Schwarber, I feel like O. Neil Cruz
• 14:58
  Speaker 5: hit one so far last year that you just have
• 15:00
  Speaker 5: to like have him in. But no, I get it,
• 15:06
  Speaker 5: I get it, but I.
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: Want to see Yeah, they're both going to do it.
• 15:13
  Speaker 7: I have.
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: Sure we've talked a lot about Rafael Devers over the
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: last couple of years, and here we are talking about
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: him again. It's a bad Giants team. It's the ninth inning.
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: The Giants were swept over the weekend, Krats. And in
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: the ninth inning he was down. Oh too, worked a walk,
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: They're down a run. He sees a pinch runner, Jonah
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: Cox coming out to replace him, and he had a
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: full on temper tantrum, both standing at first and then
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: when he went into the dugout and eventually to the clubhouse.
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: Let's find out thoughts from former players here, Krats will
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: start with you, how does this make him?
• 15:59
  Speaker 5: Let's let's just let's just go baseball. Move right here, Ruffy,
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: You ain't stealing that bag. Whether Jonah Cox did or
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: not doesn't matter. You ain't stealing that bag. You ain't
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: still stolen a bag this year. It's not about to
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: be in. Secondly, the fact that the way he handled it,
• 16:15
  Speaker 5: I thought he was kind of joking, like I just
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: worked a big walk.
• 16:19
  Speaker 6: You know, we're down a run.
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: He wanted to keep running in a ninth inning, Oh
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: we need that run. The score you're out, Like I
• 16:25
  Speaker 5: thought he was joking, and it turned into something where
• 16:28
  Speaker 5: he did throw a tantrum in a dugout, like he
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: doesn't want to be congratulated.
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: Come on stop. Yeah that's tough man.
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: You even look at uh the first base coach, you know,
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: he's kind of like, hey man, you got to come out,
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: and but.
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: Like he's like, what am I supposed to do?
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: And uh, yeah, it did look like a joke at first,
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: but I didn't take it as a joke when I
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: saw him like going like this, But you're right, baseball
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: play man. Everybody knows in that situation, if we need
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: this run, we got to get a base runner, a
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: guy that's got some speed that's going to get that
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: extra ninety, that might steal a bag, that can score
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: on something in the gap. And I think was it
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: not mentioned that they were planning to give him a
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: little break on his legs or something too. So when
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: you're taking all these things into account of being a professional,
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: you're communicating with your team and if you've already said, hey,
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: my legs, a little shot might be a little this,
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: and you're not a base stealer in that situation, you're
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: getting ran for because obviously you've done your part to
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: get on base, you're not about to I mean, they
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: need that run to potentially win.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: The game, going to extras or whatever.
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: But what good does it do it if you got
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: a guy that's on base and it's just not a
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: good look, given how he's been in the media, you know,
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: surrounding trades and you know from Boston and San Francisco,
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: how he's received. That's not a team player. And I'm
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: not saying that Rafia is in a team player. I
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: haven't played with them, but that right there was a
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: very selfish move because, as you said, Kratz, he wasn't
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: still in that bag. He was just trying to make
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: a point to say, no, I can do what I
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: want almost and then to you know, turn away when
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: somebody's trying to congressulate you. Man, no wonder this team
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: is in plan will teams that don't win and do
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: stuff like that.
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: When my puppy Bella has something wrong, I'm not going
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: to go around googling what to do.
• 18:15
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• 19:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and obviously he doesn't speak to the media. I
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: heard Richard really on their post game say, well, you know,
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: we don't know what he's thinking because he never speaks
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: to the media. But my thing is, like, what's the
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: hierarchy here because my guy, Sugar Shane Robinson's the first
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: base coach there, and first base coach isn't going to
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: be like, bro, like you got to get out of here.
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: But then it's like, are you is there a hierarchy
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: in the sense that like maybe Raffi doesn't respect Tony's moves.
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: Maybe I'm going too far into this, but I know
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: Sugar Shane's one of the base running coaches. So it's like,
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: why you're you're putting me in a spot right now?
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: Why am I sitting here going well, yeah, obviously Cox
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: is coming in for you, whether we steal him or not,
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: like there has to be a hierarchy. And then they
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: panned to Tony Tello in the dugout and our guy
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: Ron Washington was right behind him, and Ron Washington said,
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: in spring training, I don't care if you got one
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: day or one hundred years in the big leagues. If
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: you're the manager, you're the hefe. That's who everybody looks to.
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: Ron Washington on this show said those exact words when
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: we were talking about rookie hazing for the manager, like jokingly,
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: and he was like, no, no, no, we don't play
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: that way. So I'll be interested to see what comes
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: up with this, just to hear what the reaction from
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: the coaches or the rest of the team were.
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: After this, right, Because I mean, we all know guys that, oh,
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: you got a day off tomorrow, and now I'm going
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: in to talk to Skip.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: Like we're not talking.
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: You know, Hey, we're gonna give you the day off tomorrow,
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: and you go in and talk your way out of
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: having a day off.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: Like that's different.
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: Everybody's had cases where managers are like, oh, man, I
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: love when a guy comes into my office and you know,
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: tells me I don't need a day off because I'm
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: facing so and so tomorrow. But this wasn't a pinch
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: hit because you facing somebody nasty. This was this was
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: a team move, meaning a we're trying to win a
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: ball gaming right now, we need one of our better
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: base runners on and you know you did a job
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: to get on, and you know, it does come to
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: ask a question is it a respect thing? Like is
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: it a thing where it's like, man, I don't really
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: respect And I'm not saying that Rafi doesn't respect him,
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: but realistically that does make you ask that question because
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: you know you're not going to agree with every move,
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: but at the same time, some moves are going to
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: make sense, and I thought that was a move that
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: made sense in the situation of the game as well
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: did a lot of people.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Well, let's get thoughts from Tony Bytello, who talked about
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: how you know he wants guys like Devers and Logan
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Webb who don't want him to come take him out
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: like you guys said, there's a difference between that and
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: the level of respect that everybody saw on camera.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: So here's Vytella on.
• 21:44
  Speaker 7: With Dever's there in the ninth Yeah, I mean he
• 21:46
  Speaker 7: was signaling over to us that he's good to run.
• 21:48
  Speaker 7: You know, we DHD him the first game after the
• 21:51
  Speaker 7: day off just because from from running from base running
• 21:54
  Speaker 7: a little bit of soreness in this leg, but he's
• 21:56
  Speaker 7: good to go, and so a part of that and
• 21:59
  Speaker 7: then part of it too, you know how competitive he
• 22:00
  Speaker 7: is you want to stay in the game.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: What do you make of that reaction?
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: It seems like he's wave of jonah Off then went
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: right back into the clubhouse.
• 22:07
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I didn't see where he went afterwards, but once
• 22:09
  Speaker 7: we announced the move, the move is made. So just
• 22:13
  Speaker 7: going with what our best effort is to win the game. Obviously,
• 22:15
  Speaker 7: he'd like to get Jonah to go get a bag.
• 22:18
  Speaker 7: You know, he's relatively quick to the plate, but on
• 22:21
  Speaker 7: a double going with our best chance to be able
• 22:24
  Speaker 7: to score.
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: So do you feel like you need to tuck to
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: Evers after that?
• 22:27
  Speaker 7: Now we talk every day. I'm good. I want I'd
• 22:30
  Speaker 7: rather have guys like Webby that you got to rip
• 22:33
  Speaker 7: them off the field as opposed to vice versa.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: From now we're showing it for the podcast audio crowd.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Alex Cora chiming in, who's sipping Margarita's hanging out getting
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: paid by the Red Sox to watch them burn. But
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: he's also watching the Giants go through their struggles with
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Raffy Devers, who caused him a lot of turmoil. Those
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: two were going at it when they were going over
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: the position change. But Alex just said but but dot
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: dot dot, and then an emoji with the zipper that
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: he's not saying a word.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Lips are sealed. That should say it all.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Alex Cora clearly had significant issues with Devers and they
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: did not get along. And he's trying to tell the
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: world right now, are you sure it had to do
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: with me or did it have to do with him?
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: And I covered and unknown Rappie since he was like
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: a kid, right and he was like an innocent, young,
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: easygoing kid in the clubhouse.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: But he is it seems like he has changed.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know him as much the last few years,
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: but we've seen enough of this going on with him
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: that it does seem like he's changed. Krats you disagree.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: He doesn't speak to the media much, maybe like a
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: few times it's very rare, right that he speaks to
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: the media, And maybe he feels like stuff's been misconstrued
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: in the past.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: But you had the whole issue with the Red Sox
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: last year. Then he gets traded over to here. He's
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: actually hit pretty well since a bad first month this season,
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Like he's kind of at his Rappie number since May one.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: He's two sixty four, three, thirty eight, five forty with
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: the Giants. Those are not park adjusted. That's his slash
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: line with the Giant. So like, he's not the problem
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: from a hitting perspective, But you don't want to see that. No,
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: doesn't that kind of show you there's more going on?
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: It does?
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: It does? And but has he had a moment like this,
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: we've seen it visually before, it was he said, she said,
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: And then Big Poppy was like, nah, I think Raffie's great.
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: And then all of a sudden, Big Poppy turns around
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: and was like no, no, no, no, Like I remember
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: where my paychecks come from, So Raffi's awesome. Like, I
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: guess we're just gonna have to be able to view
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: It's like Manny Machada. We're gonna to view it based
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: on the things that happen in games. Like if you
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: have immature moments like Raffi just had and you don't speak, what.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: Are we supposed to say?
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: Like how are we.
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: Supposed to misconstrue something that we never hear your side
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: of it? So maybe maybe it's a little bit immature,
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: But I think there's also a I think there's just
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: double standards, not the right word. Superstars are treated differently.
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: Like if I'm a manager of IT team, I may
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: say I'm gonna treat you all fairly, but I'm gonna
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: treat each of you, not treat each each of you equally,
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: but I'll treat you fairly because you're not all equal.
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: Some of you are better, So superstars need to be
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: treated differently, but they also need to make sure they're
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: respecting what's going on on this team.
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: I kind of disagree with you there, superstar, non superstar,
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: you gotta be held accountable. I don't care if you
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: are better than this guy. There's certain things on winning
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: clubs that shouldn't be and I get it, we understand
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: the fire, but that to me is like, I don't
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: think superstars should get a pass because he's a superstar.
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: You know what, You put your boots and your clothes
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: on just like the next man. So if it's something
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: that you need to be chewed up for just because
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: you make a lot of money in you good don't
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: mean you get a pass. And I think that's where
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: this game has gone because a lot of these guys
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: have been getting paid and getting you know, passes on
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: being accountable for things when it's like, bro, it's just
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: simple communication. You said your legs for short. They probably
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: told you, hey, you lead off this and you get on,
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: we're gonna pinch run for you. If that wasn't communicated,
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: that's a fault on the team, But that's also a
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: fault on them just not really communicating. But anybody knows.
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: I don't care your status. Accountability to me is big.
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: How you treat somebody should be throughout that clubhouse because
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: everybody putting on that uniform.
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: And I get it.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: There's certain things you let superstars slide with as far
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: as okay, yeah, hey cut when I was there, you
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: know what, you don't need to run ninety percent on
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: that ball back to the picture, but I need you
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: to give me sixty or seventy, you know, don't and
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: don't show me up, you know, And I get it
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: in those moments, But like, I don't think you'd see
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: real leaders of a team look at a manager and
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: be like, bro, I'm not coming out. And to me,
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: that's an accountability thing. You let things slide and then
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: it makes it makes it acceptable for other people.
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: You said it, you said at the beginning of that
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: statement right there, you said it, Jaa, you said a
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: real leader. Maybe they don't have a real leader maybe
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: or maybe maybe he's not that real leader. And I
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: think that's okay because I don't know that he wants
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: to be that leader. I think they paid William Domas
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: to be that guy. I think they have opportunities for
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: other guys to step up. Logan Webb's that guy. But
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: the reality is they're not all treated the same. They're
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: not all treated the same, and never should the respect
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: ever change. No, that's that's not gonna happen. But Jay
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: hay is gonna be treated way differently in some cases
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: than Andrew McCutcheon is. In fact, even even with Jay
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: hayes an All Star, even if Raffie Devers never came
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: to me and said his legs were sore, Raffie, you
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: ain't as fast as Jonah Cox.
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: That's it.
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: We need his bag, we need We don't score runs,
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: so I need this ball to float into the outfield
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: and we're gonna score because Jonah Cox stole stole second
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: base and now we got a tie ball game.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: Also right, if the name of the game is winning,
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: whatever you feeling so or not, Jonah Cox is much
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: faster than you, Bro. It's two one in the ninth.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: We're about to get swept on a Sunday against the Marlins.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Thank you for your two turning into a walk. You
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: did your job. Go to the dugout, high five everyone,
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: and say let's score that damn run.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Period. That's the end. You're getting so much money to
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: do that. You got on base.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: I mean, homer would have been nice, but you got
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: on base, like you battled in a net bat. Done right,
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: That's arbitration.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: No, yeah, bullets like no, this is the most basic
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: baseball strategy too, Like, there's no debate here. Your manager
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: wants to put in a pinch runner to try and
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: freaking score either steal a base or yeah, maybe there's
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: a gapper or some extra base hit that turns into
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: a run, and the percentage chance is someone else is
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: scoring that better than you. The only reason you want
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: to stay in the game is you think, oh, this
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: is going extras. I'm getting in an extra A B.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Because you're not staying there. You're not making a case
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: that you're faster than Cox. You want to do a
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: freaking a race after the game. You want to race
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: Cox after the games? Yeah, that goes. You don't want
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: that smoke. You're there for power, You're there for your bat.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: You did your job. Go sit down and high five
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: everyone and show that you're a good teammate. It wasn't
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: just that that he was arguing. Then then he goes
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: into the dugout and who was it Jase Tinkler trying
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: to give him a little smack, like good stuff, and
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: he avoids him, like like it's a that to me
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: was the true temper tantrum right there, like don't touch me?
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: What that's too much?
• 29:26
  Speaker 6: That move?
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: That move hearkens me back when you were talking, back
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: to what Craig Breslo said, and I kind of laughed
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: at it. Craig Breslow said, we're gonna be a better
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: team without Raffi Devers, and I was like, what you're
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: gonna be You're gonna find thirty five Homers somewhere else,
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: And I laughed at it. But if there's if he
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: did this in public, I have a hard time believing
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: there's not worse happening behind closed doors. That's it, And
• 29:52
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  Speaker 2: Pat Murphy back surgery on Thursday. As Adam Mcalvey said,
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  Speaker 2: it's going to be appetizer. Then he gets right hip
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  Speaker 2: surgery during the All Star break, so he does not
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  Speaker 2: anticipate missing any Brewer games. And while we're on the
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Brewers fun series this weekend, guys, Josh, we had Mis
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: pitching again on Friday, dominating for a while. But the
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Braves did just enough almost playoff baseball feel to it,
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  Speaker 2: where they're like, hey, we just got to get contact.
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  Speaker 2: Let's figure this out. Due Bond's been there. Clutch guys
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  Speaker 2: like almost four hundred with two outs and runners in
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: scoring position, gets it done. They had another close win
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  Speaker 2: the next day against Ashby and the bullpen for the Brewers.
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  Speaker 2: So the Braves they played them well there at home.
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  Speaker 4: That was Askedby's first loss, right, thank I, Saul, Yeah, yeah, man,
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: what you got to two teams at the top of
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: the division.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: Good baseball man.
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: And know, as you mentioned, the potentially kind of felt
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: like the playoffs. You know, it's always good to have
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: series like that, you know, especially between teams, because you
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: know that's what you want.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: Showed up to the to the field every day.
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: There's so many games that can go sideways, you know,
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: big score here, big score there. But this weekend show,
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: when you got two teams at the top of their game,
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: top of their divisions, and they meet and you have
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: those games like that. It's it's refreshing. I think it's
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: good for baseball. You're seeing good pitching, you're seeing timely hitting,
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: and you're you're you're just seeing the overall product of
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: what you know, fans want to see, you know, some
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: exciting games, back and forth, good pitching, all those things
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: mentioned before. And I'm sure the Atlanta Braves fans enjoyed
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: it because it was it was in Atlanta, right, and
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: they had some pretty exciting wins. But you know, it's
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: always good to see good baseball. And you know, you
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: mentioned Pat Murphy and the Brewers. He didn't miss much.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: I know we've got some beef, some chirping between Trek
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: Scougel and the White Sox on Friday.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Mike Vassel the picture.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: He's the wand guy, right, Kratz, He's the wand guy
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: on the White Sox. He's got the magic wandering. Yeah,
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: he looks like a good time. He looks like fun.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Him and Schoogle had some fun. Schooble seemed like he
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: had fun going back and forth with him after the game.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, some good words getting exchanged there, But
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: what did you think of a little back and forth.
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: I liked it until I saw a little bit of
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: a little bit of interaction later with Vassal and you
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: know his teammates Scooble obviously Vassals. You know he's that
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: not clubhouse lawyer, but like dugout chirper, he's not he's
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: not healthy right now, he's got the wand the boys
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: are playing good. I think some of that, like let's
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: make sure we're we're not like we're not rustling the
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: nest too much. I'm not saying that the Tigers are
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: gonna come back. I'm saying the White Sox. You guys
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: are playing well. You guys, ever are an energy team,
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: and I think Vassals part of that energy. I just think,
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: you know, it didn't come out. It didn't come out
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: too well. And I saw a little bit of the
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: interaction before, like he's in a dugout laugh and everybody's laughing.
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: So maybe it was a good time. Maybe maybe that's
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: what's fired these boys up a little bit, but didn't
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: come out on top for the weekend. So I just
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: want to make sure, like, hey, you're riding high. You're
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: doing well, Like, let's stick to what's kept us going well,
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: and maybe this is it. Maybe they've been chirping and
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: nobody's chirp back at him.
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: Yet, right, Yeah, we don't know for all what it's worth,
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: you know, how long they've been doing it. But obviously
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: from a standpoint when you got to got like schooba
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: on them, Ount, I'm sure you know him missing some time,
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: that's probably you know, oh man, I missed this type
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: of competition, So I'm sure for him as you read
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: his comments, it's fun chirping back and forth. But I
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: agree with you if that's something that was out of
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: character for their dugout, you know, you want to stay
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: the same. But if that's what they've been doing, as
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: you mentioned with the White Sox being an energy team,
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: you know, by all means, continue to do what you're
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: doing because that's that's what works for y'all. But you know,
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: just know that some guys you're going to get a
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: reaction out of, whether you like it or not. But
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: if it's all competition and ain't nobody you know, trying
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: to harm nobody, Hey, things are going to be said
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: in the heat of the moment, all you sup, all
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: you can't get me out, all go sit down. But
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: you know within that, you know, hey, every team has
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: had a guy that's not active right now that you know.
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: It's keeping vibes up. And sometimes those guys are there
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: to get under the skin of the other team, you know,
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: just to get you off your game. And you know
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: sometimes that's just the part of you know, why you
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: got guys in the dugout of hey, we need all
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: the energy we can. And I didn't say anything wrong
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: with it, because I mean, it's just chirping. You play,
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: you know enough chirping, So I didn't say anything wrong
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: with it other than just make sure you're chirping the
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: right people, because some people will say, okay, you poked
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: the bear, all right, I'm coming for you.
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: That's that's where like you saw you saw turn around
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: in Pittsburgh, you were part of that turnaround Pittsburgh. All
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: of a sudden, the boys start getting a little more
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: confident and the White Sox are winning. So when that
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: chirping happens, like teams, teams are all of a sudden
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: coming after the White Sox, how do the White Sox respond?
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: Is going to be the tail of two halves of
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: a season, or it's going to be the tail of Hey,
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: this is our playoff run team, and this is how
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: we did it. Like it's how you respond when you're
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: the one being hunted, exactly.
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: And it's fun to be on that side because it's
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: been a long time for the White Sox. But as
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: you mentioned, how are they going to handle it? Because
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: you know, you can chirt, but you got to be
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: able to back it up. And you know, as you mentioned,
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: they're riding high right now, but it's a long season.
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: Like to see him keep it up. But at the
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: same time, hey, this is a long season. You better
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: be able to back it up for the whole time.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that teams in your division, don't don't poke
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: the bear there.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: The Tigers are chilling right now, you know, and now
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: they swept on they're having a good month. They're starting
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: to turn things around a little bit. Vassal said, I
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: was up there on the top step helping the team out,
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: cheering them on. Next thing, I know, I'm getting reamed out.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: Schoobl did a lot of smiling when he was talking
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: about everything, So, I mean, he said it was some
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: pretty choice words, and I shared back some choice words.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: School said. It was good stuff.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: So to me, you're you're kind of firing up the
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: Tigers the way you don't want to fire up the
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: Tigers in mid June, you know, like just let them
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: do their.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: Thing, right, Josh.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: I mean the White Socks are kind of new to
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: this party. They are fiery though as a team, like
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: there is an identity there when you watch this team,
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: it is it's almost like dating the polar opposite of
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: what they were a few years ago, where you felt
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: like nobody on that team that was getting paid was
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: ever on the field. Now, these guys, I mean antonotcha
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: get hit by a pitch every other five seconds?
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you were there, you see. So you watch it
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: White Tox team this year and you watch it when
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: you were over there, and.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: You're like, they completely just gutted it and started with
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: guys that are going to die to be on the
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: field every day.
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: And it carries over, as you mentioned, lists to the comments,
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: whether you're on the field or not.
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: We're gonna be high energy, and as.
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: You mentioned, sometimes you bring that high energy, and what
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: it was was sometimes there's going to be some people
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: that are going to match that energy. And you just
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: better be prepared for that energy to be matched. Then
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: time will till.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah for Detroit. So Mike Petrieller just tweeted this an
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: hour ago. Kratz best record in the American League this
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: month and it's June twenty seconds, so we're a few
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: weeks in. Second most homers in baseball during this month,
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: second lowest dra And now this is perfect test mode here.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: Six of their next ten come against the Yankees, a
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: Yankees team without Judge, but still a good Yankees team.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: So you get to face some good competition here, not
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: that the White Talks were bad competition. The White Talks
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: have played well this year.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: But it's not a cupcake schedule coming up for this team.
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: Yes, one hundred test and they started it off on
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: the right foot, they really did, because you're not going
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: to face better competition in the American League unfortunately. That's
• 39:02
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• 39:05
  Speaker 5: White Sox have been playing well. They went in and
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: took two or three from them. The Yankees just lost
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: two of three. So you say, okay, this is a
• 39:14
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• 39:17
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  Speaker 2: code foul. Did you guys see the there's been a
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  Speaker 2: bunch of pinch hitting articles about the Tigers and now
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: that's been a big part of their game over the
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: past few years, and this year they're one of the
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: worst teams with pinch hitters. Right, it's starting to backfire
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: and guy's gotten cold, Like Jami Jones has been one
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: of those guys who's popped up in games mid game
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: late and one of the what was it Saturday, I
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: think he's mid game replacing Kerry Carpenter and he strikes
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: out and it put him in a I think he
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: had been in an oh for twenty one snapped it,
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: and then I think with that strikeout he was still
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: like one for his last twenty three, so he was
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: getting food heavily. Fans are just sick of that strategy
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: when it's not working, And here's what he said about it.
• 41:06
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that's the first time in my career
• 41:09
  Speaker 8: I've been booed by an entire stadium, and I feel
• 41:13
  Speaker 8: like fans forget.
• 41:15
  Speaker 9: That We're trying just as hard, I promise, but obviously
• 41:19
  Speaker 9: it's it's a bad feeling.
• 41:20
  Speaker 8: You never want to get booed by your home fans,
• 41:23
  Speaker 8: But at the end of the day, I can't get
• 41:25
  Speaker 8: wrapped up in that. Obviously, if I got wrapped up
• 41:27
  Speaker 8: in it, I would have not been able.
• 41:28
  Speaker 9: To do what I did my last set bad.
• 41:29
  Speaker 8: I would have been worrying about, you know, if the
• 41:31
  Speaker 8: fans are gonna boo me again.
• 41:32
  Speaker 9: But you know, hopefully I start turning it on so
• 41:35
  Speaker 9: they can forgive me.
• 41:36
  Speaker 8: But but no, I mean, it's just part of it. Obviously,
• 41:40
  Speaker 8: I know that the entire city wants us to win,
• 41:42
  Speaker 8: They want us to be good.
• 41:43
  Speaker 9: They know how good we can be as a team, and.
• 41:45
  Speaker 8: You know, obviously we want to do that too. So
• 41:47
  Speaker 8: I feel for him, I really do. But nobody takes
• 41:51
  Speaker 8: it harder than we do. So we're just trying to
• 41:53
  Speaker 8: do everything we can to put together good abs, good results.
• 41:56
  Speaker 8: And right now, obviously I've had some sparings and you know,
• 42:01
  Speaker 8: it's been big moments where I've been put into the
• 42:03
  Speaker 8: game and obviously I want to contribute. So just trying
• 42:06
  Speaker 8: to do everything I can to get back into that
• 42:07
  Speaker 8: rhythm and we you know, keep.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: Going good attitude.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: But yeah, it can be tough when you're struggling and
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: then they keep putting you in these big moments and
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: you're carry Carpenter is a dude there and you replace
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: a mid game like they stick to their process, but
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: that's a tough process to take someone like that out.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: I get what they've been doing for a long time
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: now with the platooning, but it also can stunt development.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: We've gone over that quite a bit too, Josh, where
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: you know, constantly guys are looking knowing, uh uh left,
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: he's going to come in the game. I'm going to
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: get taken out. I'm only going to get half my
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: bats today.
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: I know how it feels. I've been there, and especially
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: guys that aren't used to pinch hitting. But then you
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: mentioned pinch hitting for Kerry Carpenter, and yes he might
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: have gotten booed, but some of those boos aren't necessarily
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: directed just at him. They booed after he struck out.
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: A lot of it is probably buoying the manager too,
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: like why do we keep doing this? But you know
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: he meant you mentioned his struggles when you don't play
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: every day and then you're being thrown in there to
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: pinch it against some of the best arms out the bullpen.
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: Then it's a tough situation.
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: Not as you mentioned, you heard him say he's trying,
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: but he had a good attitude about it because you know,
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: he knows every time he steps up there, he has
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: confidence in himself.
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: Just hasn't gotten the results. But that's not easy.
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: I think twenty twelve, I think I was like three
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: for twenty three pinchhitting.
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: So and that was just pinshitting.
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: So when you mentioned and I was pinshitting and at
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: times where oh, go pinchhit for Garret Jones, go pinch
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: it for Pedro because they brung it lefty, and it's like, okay,
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: you know, and so I've been in those shoes. So
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: to hear him say that, it's like, yeah, I want
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: my opportunity. But then you know, you strike out, you
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: might hear booze, but it's like, you know what, hey,
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: you got to shake that off because you know, baseball
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: is a short term memory game. And as he said,
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: you know he wouldn't have been able to do what
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: he did his next that bad at feet was worrying
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: about being booed.
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: But it's definitely tough.
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: But it also shows that when you got guys in
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: a lineup, trust him to do what they do, and
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: you don't make these moves when it makes sense. Just
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: because they bring a guy out the pin in the
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: six or seven doesn't mean you have to make that
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: move because it's a lot easier for guys that are
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: already in a fload of game to hit.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: Then bring somebody off the bench.
• 44:11
  Speaker 6: Code.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: This is an aerk Kratz special for slap. Look at
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: what Ken Rosenthal put out there. It's a thirty one
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: year old getting a call up to the show. The
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: name is Julian Garcia, a tenth round pick in twenty sixteen,
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: making his major league debut for the Reds at Triple A.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: He earned it three zero three ERA, punching out thirteen
• 44:43
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• 44:50
  Speaker 5: Getting called up at thirty one years old is not
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: the way you drew it up. But you know what
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: you're there now, So go ahead and just spend ten
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: years there tire as a forty one year old's that's
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: the way to do it, Julian.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: That's what he did. That's what he did. It's very impressive.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: Let's show this tweet from you know, Cyrus, one of
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: my favorite baseball nerds, and over the weekend he put
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: this out there. I figured you'd like this scrat, So
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: we're going to show you the drag by date on
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: all four seam fastballs.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: He said.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: That's what we're showing you on the screen. He said,
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: if it seems like there's been more offense recently, there has.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: And well, there's this drag on the ball currently lower
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: than any year other than twenty nineteen, when baseball broke
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: all kinds of home run records. He said, super weird,
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: considering MLB owns the ball maker and has humidors in
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: every ballpark.
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  Speaker 6: WHOA, no way, super weird. Must be a coincidence.
• 45:45
  Speaker 5: Wait, well was the other year that there was low
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: drag on the ball? Oh, twenty nineteen, and it was
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: proven that these balls were made differently?
• 45:53
  Speaker 6: Wait, major League Baseball owns the ballmaker, and yet we
• 45:56
  Speaker 6: can't get one uniform baseball.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: Of conspiracies?
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: What was it a cooner the other day, like in
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: a dugout, like a ball like this?
• 46:09
  Speaker 5: No, no, jay, Hey, baseball players wouldn't know.
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: They're just big buffoons, they're big jummies.
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: I think a BP ball might have found his way.
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: That's what he was looking at.
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  Speaker 5: Oh wait, wait, wait, wait, there's different baseballs like BP
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: balls or home run derby balls. Jay, Hey, you must
• 46:28
  Speaker 5: be an idiot because you don't wear a backwards hat,
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: because only idiots wear backwards hats.
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: I was just merely speculating.
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: I don't know if there are different Sometimes some of
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: them say practice, maybe they don't.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 46:40
  Speaker 6: Hey, well, we played for the pirates. I know we're
• 46:41
  Speaker 6: running out of time. We played for the pirates.
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: You know, the pirates were never buying the good BP balls,
• 46:46
  Speaker 5: and you would hit them things and they'd be like
• 46:50
  Speaker 5: anywhere and they get in the game the balls a lot.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: That's good ware.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: So guys, people want to know, like, do you yes,
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: the baseballs clearly are getting built differently year to year.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: Do you think that there's conspiracy theory deep enough to say, hey,
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: there's people sitting in a room like let's tweak those specs.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: Or do you think that there's just massive inconsistencies because
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: of the way that it's built.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: You think the option A is going on.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: Crats They're sitting in a room and they're like, hey,
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: how are we going to tweak the baseball this year?
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: This is a whole conspiracy theory. You know me and
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: my conspiracy theories. Hey, pitching starts to get too expensive,
• 47:32
  Speaker 5: Let's change the ball to be a little Oh, hitting
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: starts to get a little expensive.
• 47:35
  Speaker 6: Let's make the ball a little bit better for pitchers.
• 47:37
  Speaker 6: But like, of.
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: Course, yes, you're talking about massive sample sizes that can
• 47:43
  Speaker 5: change and swing how players are paid.
• 47:46
  Speaker 6: Yes, there's a huge, huge difference.
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: That's why I love you.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: I have a good conspiracy theory. He's full of them. Josh,
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: it's fun. I hope you had fun, dude, it was great.
• 47:56
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  Speaker 1: Now you can just enjoy life or watch us back.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: Actually, Fair Territory was on this morning, so make sure
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• 48:09
  Speaker 3: Josh.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: You find him.
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: Oh, I had a blast, man. I appreciate you'll having
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  Speaker 3: me on.
• 48:13
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