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90 Day Fiancé Season 12 Episode 7 The Ball and Chain Part 1 · Vanity Farah with Chris Farah

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Speaker 1: Hey, babes, Welcome back to Vanity. Farah.
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Speaker 2: My name is Chris Farrah, and we continue the journey
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Speaker 2: that is ninety Day Fiance. It's season twelve, episode seven,
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Speaker 2: The Ball and Chain. I obviously love the season and
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Speaker 2: I could talk about it for the rest of my life.
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Speaker 1: It's one of the better seasons we've had in a minute.
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Speaker 2: And obviously we know why the OG franchise works. It's
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Speaker 2: because it's brand new people who are truly in ridiculous
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Speaker 2: situations trying to relate to each other when they have
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Speaker 2: vastly different experiences, worldviews, triggers.
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Speaker 1: And you know, values.
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Speaker 2: And I am here for it because I think at
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Speaker 2: the end of the day, it's interesting to watch people
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Speaker 2: have to come together and work on things, and especially
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Speaker 2: if hopefully they share some morsel of love between them.
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Speaker 2: So what they're trying to do is, you know, grow
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Speaker 2: and evolve the relationship they have. Obviously what sucks was
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Speaker 2: when people are fake, are weird. But at the same time,
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Speaker 2: you know, here I am talking an hour about Mido. Okay,
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Speaker 2: let's get in. Why don't we start with our good
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Speaker 2: friends Marissa and Edward. So obviously we know that her
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Speaker 2: rich ass family waspy, rich ass family is coming to visit,
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Speaker 2: and Marissa does two things that I find to.
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Speaker 1: Be of note.
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Speaker 2: She a tells Edward to be the family approval style Edward,
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Speaker 2: and that is like less fun Edward. Don't hug or
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Speaker 2: pick up anyone, And don't call her mommy, mommy, don't
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Speaker 2: call her stepdad poppy.
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Speaker 1: Don't do it.
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Speaker 2: Just pretend that they are cold, sort of like wooly
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Speaker 2: mammoths that you have to approach with caution and.
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Speaker 1: Like try and read their body language. Isn't that so interesting?
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Speaker 1: It's interesting to be like change who you are and how.
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Speaker 2: You proceed and talk to people because my family won't
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Speaker 2: like your natural gregarious personality anyway. Just interesting. So the
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Speaker 2: second thing that's interesting is that we're like, okay, Marissa,
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Speaker 2: show you have this big ass helm. It's gorgeous, you know,
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Speaker 2: on the outside, on the inside very suspect. Let's just
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Speaker 2: see what your life is like. You're having your big
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Speaker 2: Italian family come over. We know what that life's like.
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Speaker 2: Now she got food catered. Now do I expect Marissa
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Speaker 2: to take time off of her busy bar teaching class
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Speaker 2: to make a caprese salad?
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Speaker 1: No? I don't but she leaves the catered food in.
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Speaker 2: The exact packaging it comes in all these plastic shells
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Speaker 2: and or tenfoil shells. And she says that she's embarrassed
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Speaker 2: by it, and she should be. But also she has
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Speaker 2: no other servingwear, and what why versa your seasoned? How
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Speaker 2: have you not gotten any serveware? Also, you've been married before,
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Speaker 2: so I know you were you were you have a
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Speaker 2: registry or you had a registry at some point people
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Speaker 2: had to go to a department store and buy you
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Speaker 2: your bullshit things on that long off registry that she
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Speaker 2: you know, had a gun and went around, you know,
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Speaker 2: one of those price guns.
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Speaker 1: And put them on.
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Speaker 2: Like, I cannot believe this bitch has never gotten her
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Speaker 2: ass to Creighton Barrel or Williamson Sonoma and has bought
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Speaker 2: like that kind of basic earthware and a cream you
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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like, I just I'm not expecting
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Speaker 2: her to have like stop and stuff like that, But
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Speaker 2: I can't believe that she doesn't have any servingwear.
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Speaker 1: This house doesn't seem real. This seems almost like a.
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Speaker 2: Airbnb home with how cheap everything is on the inside,
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Speaker 2: but also how unlivable, like her weird two showers with weird,
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Speaker 2: horrible shower curtains, obviously her bedding. But like I when
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Speaker 2: she says she has no serving wear, how have you
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Speaker 2: ever had a party? So you yeah, like you've never
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Speaker 2: hosted a holiday. You have two kids, you just never
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Speaker 2: have them their kids over for like, you know, an easy,
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Speaker 2: breezy birthday. But you need to get like a cupcake platter.
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Speaker 2: It's really remarkable, like I mean, and I'm remarking on it.
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Speaker 2: I mean, she then she complains about that. But then
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Speaker 2: even for her like family, she has to undo a
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Speaker 2: bunch of plastic utensils, plastic plates, plastic utensils. There's just
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Speaker 2: a part of her that's like I cannot be.
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Speaker 1: Bothered to fill a dishwasher.
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Speaker 2: I just want to throw everything away, just create a
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Speaker 2: bunch of fucking trash. I mean, why are you telling
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Speaker 2: Edward how to behave in front of your family. If
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Speaker 2: you're gonna have your family over and just serve them
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Speaker 2: on a bunch of fucking plastic, look at yourself. When
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Speaker 2: one finger is pointing at someone else, four more pointing
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Speaker 2: back at you. So she's having her obviously mom, her stepdad.
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Speaker 2: Her stepdad's name is Bob, and she calls her stepdad Bob,
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Speaker 2: her aunt's uncles and a cousin named Carla, and she
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Speaker 2: says the food is Italian, so are they, but Bob isn't.
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Speaker 2: And then this is where Edward can't help, like just
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Speaker 2: parceling out a little bit of joy, and he's like, no,
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Speaker 2: he's Dominican.
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Speaker 1: And he laughs, which is hilarious. It's a great joke.
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Speaker 2: And when we see Bob's face in retaliation to that joke,
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Speaker 2: we realize this man is dripping in like a UK face.
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Speaker 2: He seems he looks like the most English person that
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Speaker 2: you'd pluck off a countryside. I mean, you know, he
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Speaker 2: seems country English, you know, which I find, let's just
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Speaker 2: be honest charming. You know, there's cobblestones in whatever neck
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Speaker 2: of the woods his great grandparents are from, you know,
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Speaker 2: like he has good taste and butter. So her mom
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Speaker 2: looks like a combination of Candy Spelling and Tory Spelling together.
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Speaker 1: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: Look, she looks like both women together as one woman.
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Speaker 2: And what's interesting about that is that Tory Spelling looks
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Speaker 2: nothing like her mom Candy Spelling. But also doesn't Marissa's
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Speaker 2: mom also feel like she probably has like a Candy
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Speaker 2: Spelling esque demeanor, and just how Tory rebelled from her mom.
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Speaker 1: Don't you kind of.
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Speaker 2: Feel like that's Marissa, Marissa having to listen to her
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Speaker 2: mom talk and is watching Marissa's face.
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Speaker 1: She almost does like regress back.
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Speaker 2: To like a fifteen year old. I bet Marisa was
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Speaker 2: like an absolute handful. Her mom's going to be like
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Speaker 2: I raised a strong woman, but I feel like, yeah,
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Speaker 2: like I feel like you guys have fought, and Marissa
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Speaker 2: has done a lot of rebellious things. I think that
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Speaker 2: Marissa's whole, like I'm going to date working classmen, is
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Speaker 2: like a weird rebellion against her mom, even though I
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Speaker 2: think that her mom came into money because of Bob Bob,
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Speaker 2: because you know, I deep dive was like a CFO
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Speaker 2: or one of those things of David's bridal, which coincidentally
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Speaker 2: is where she worked for years, so you know, God
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Speaker 2: bless Nepo bridal baby, that's what we call them now.
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Speaker 2: Of course, when the whole family's there, Edward's doing his best.
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Speaker 2: He you know, at one point, is like in the
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Speaker 2: middle of like being lovely and charming, and Marisa's like,
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Speaker 2: get up, I need to sit down and it's like awkward.
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Speaker 2: So then someone else is like, oh, here, you can
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Speaker 2: have my seat, Edward, and then they're like, okay, we've
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Speaker 2: had enough, and so the mom starts to be like,
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Speaker 2: I know we've met, but I just don't know you,
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Speaker 2: and I don't know how I feel about your relationship
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Speaker 2: with my daughter. They're like, well, enough hard questions. Let's
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Speaker 2: go outside and have more hard questions. So Carla, who
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Speaker 2: has a personality Marissa's mom, and Edward go outside to
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Speaker 2: continue this great conversation, which feels very much like a
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Speaker 2: hometown date from a Bachelor episode, you know, even if
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Speaker 2: you know you know. Carla tries to lay some warmth
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Speaker 2: and is like, well, he has to be special because
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Speaker 2: you haven't brought a lot of men around your kids.
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Speaker 2: She's like, yeah, you know, I wouldn't do that unless
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Speaker 2: they were special, and the mom gets I mean real
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Speaker 2: conservative coded, and she's like, listen, we all know America
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Speaker 2: is a wonderful place, happiest place on her Some would
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Speaker 2: say the Disneyland of all countries, the best, the first.
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Speaker 2: We're like the first, No, young, She's like, this is
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Speaker 2: where everyone wants to be. The American dream you've heard
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Speaker 2: of that, and what I'm trying to say is you
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Speaker 2: have a lot of reasons to want to come over here.
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Speaker 2: And he, you know, God Bless is like, I'm from
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Speaker 2: the dr It's a tropical paradise. Maybe you feel like
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Speaker 2: the socio economics systems are different from what you know.
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Speaker 2: But for I guess our lack of like having disposable
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Speaker 2: income to buy absolute bullshit chotchkeys and I don't know,
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Speaker 2: plastic plates to serve our family.
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Speaker 1: We have family, We have like.
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Speaker 2: Warmth and joy in our households, So I mean, you know,
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Speaker 2: wealth is relative. And she's like, mm hmm, what do
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Speaker 2: you like about my daughter? What is it about my
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Speaker 2: daughter that's so special to you? Which is a weird
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Speaker 2: kind of question to ask, but you know, she asks it,
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Speaker 2: and he, I think, answers in a way where he listen.
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Speaker 2: He doesn't want to have to curtail to this lady,
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Speaker 2: but he's like, look, I want respect and loyalty, and
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Speaker 2: that's what she has.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 2: I think in Edward's mind, he wasn't like, well I
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Speaker 2: like that body, and we fuck real good, we fuck
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Speaker 2: on vacations so well. So I was like, oh, this moment,
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Speaker 2: I can have this in real life. He doesn't say that,
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Speaker 2: so he thinks he gets a gold star. Now, Marissa's
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Speaker 2: like he sounded macho and doesn't really like, didn't really
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Speaker 2: showcase his caring nature in his heart. He tells Marissa's
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Speaker 2: mom that he is going to do everything in his hands,
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Speaker 2: and I think she takes that to mean like he
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Speaker 2: is going to do all it takes to do right
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Speaker 2: by her. But you know, he didn't quite say that.
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Speaker 1: I think that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Edward was on the defense and he was told
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Speaker 2: to be, so I don't think that we can get
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Speaker 2: like a true Edward being himself. You literally told him
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Speaker 2: not to do so, Bob at that point, you know,
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Speaker 2: is like knee deep in like a plastic cup of whiskey,
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Speaker 2: chomping on some dry lasagna. Honestly, Okay, let's move on
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Speaker 2: to Meato and Debbie. Now this is oh no, sorry, Meto.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, I have small little pictures, and then I'm like,
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Speaker 1: what do they look like? In real life? Oh? Do
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Speaker 1: I know?
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Speaker 2: Have my Meto and Debbie thing? He said, there they
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Speaker 2: are Meto and Debbie. Okay, Now, obviously we're a hot
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Speaker 2: on the heels of what we can only assume is
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Speaker 2: the last straw of this relationship. But it's suspect why
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Speaker 2: he's not gone. We wake up, He's there, She's there.
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Speaker 2: We're like, why isn't this man in a different hotel?
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Speaker 2: That seems weird, Like he has disposal income, he's a
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Speaker 2: tour guide, plus all the movies, plus just the engagement
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Speaker 2: of having almost you know, seven hundred or whatever he
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Speaker 2: bought now fifty thousand followers. You would think that a
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Speaker 2: man that has almost a million followers on Instagram would
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Speaker 2: make so much money, you know, with spons deals. But
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Speaker 2: guess what, No, he's talking. They're not talking, so basically
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Speaker 2: they have producers coming in to facilitate this. I also
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Speaker 2: think it's ridiculous and kind of funny that there is
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Speaker 2: no friend or family member for him to call to
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Speaker 2: have one of their classic state what happened last night
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Speaker 2: on the phone with someone else's round up convos, but
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Speaker 2: there's not and take note of it. He says that
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Speaker 2: he had been patient with her, but he has no
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Speaker 2: idea what happened because she just came in the car
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Speaker 2: and started yelling, and he didn't understand where and why
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Speaker 2: that would happen. And meanwhile, her friends are still shocked
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Speaker 2: they're just like, yeah, I went bad so fast, and
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Speaker 2: we're like, well, no, it was already bad, like you
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Speaker 2: guys were seeing it at like a five simmering and
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Speaker 2: then it blew up.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 2: They had gotten more drinks at the bar because Astra
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Speaker 2: and Laura her friends are like the only important sort
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Speaker 2: of like sociable, somewhat interesting people involved. Of course, Debbie
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Speaker 2: had driven home and he had said that his plan
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Speaker 2: was to go back to his country, and she had
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Speaker 2: told him to look for flights. So the producers asked
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Speaker 2: her what happened the next day, and we realize this
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Speaker 2: girl is insane because she said it was just a
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Speaker 2: bad day and I had a mini meltdown. So she's
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Speaker 2: already internalizing the guilt and problem of last night being
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Speaker 2: solely on her shoulders. Now, she did blow up at him,
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Speaker 2: but it was caused by his weird passive aggressive energy.
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Speaker 2: Now she starts to think it was her fault and
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Speaker 2: you can tell. And that's when we realize that Debbie
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Speaker 2: hasn't left the situation, and this is situation's not done.
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Speaker 2: Now when she is at home, she goes in and
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Speaker 2: out of having no makeup on, and then makeup on
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Speaker 2: and she's of course having to go to work, and
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Speaker 2: he is, you know, still reeling. He's mad that her
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Speaker 2: friends questioned his virginity and that she questioned his virginity, which.
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Speaker 1: Is like, is that what happened?
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Speaker 2: But no, That's when Debbie was like, you'll fuck with
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Speaker 2: other bitches on Instagram. You won't even post me, and
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Speaker 2: you won't ask me if I'm okay.
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Speaker 1: She says.
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Speaker 2: He says, it's over, over over, But we're realizing that
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Speaker 2: they're still together. Spoiler alert on Instagram. I think Mary
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Speaker 2: Pants or one of the Instagram detectivey kind of profiles
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Speaker 2: had let it be known that they got married. There's
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Speaker 2: a wedding certificate. We know that happens after after this.
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Speaker 2: Why do we know what happened? Because we can tell
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Speaker 2: this happens around Halloween because of the bullshit cost and
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Speaker 2: they get married in December, which is.
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Speaker 1: What do you do? What do you do with that?
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Speaker 1: You wipe your hands of this situation.
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Speaker 2: You're just like, I, well, okay, well I guess not.
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Speaker 2: Don't waste my breath on you, even though I'm going
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Speaker 2: to keep wasting my breath on her. If you had
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Speaker 2: her as a friend, you wouldn't be friends with her anymore.
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Speaker 2: You would just be like, well, it's awkward. I don't
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Speaker 2: know how to describe being around you other than like
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Speaker 2: being friends with someone who's falling into a cult and
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Speaker 2: you just can't do anything about it. And you tell
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Speaker 2: them they're crazy and things look weird, and they're like,
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Speaker 2: I know, I know, but I'm still in it. You're like, well, okay,
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Speaker 2: Well some people can like deal with that by either
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Speaker 2: compartmentalizing or just being like we won't talk about the cult,
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Speaker 2: but me I can't, you know, because if your lover
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Speaker 2: or if you're in a cult or something like that,
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Speaker 2: it's sort of like permeates all the other conversations, like
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Speaker 2: what are you doing this weekend? I just you know,
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Speaker 2: going to some meetings. You know they're like cult meetings,
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Speaker 2: so you know, like, what are you doing this weekend?
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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna, like, you know, be with my boyfriend.
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Speaker 2: You're like, oh, you're nightmarish, mean, narcissistic person that has
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Speaker 2: control over you and you have low self esteem and
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Speaker 2: insecurity issues and that's why you're still with them.
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Speaker 1: Like how do you get past that? Hard? It's hard.
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Speaker 2: You have to like sometimes just be like, you know
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Speaker 2: what I'm going to surround myself with people that are
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Speaker 2: like doing good and positive things. I'm not going to
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Speaker 2: surround myself with people that I have to bite my
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Speaker 2: tongue because they're in horribly toxic situations and I either
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Speaker 2: am going to like resent them or you know, have
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Speaker 2: to deal with their neurosis or what it all falls apart.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to be the one that has to pick
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Speaker 2: them up again, even though I told them what's happening
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Speaker 2: right now, which is that they're being bad Night Marrish
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Speaker 2: with their own decision making. So anyway, by the way,
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Speaker 2: also two things about Debbie. Besides the fact that she
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Speaker 2: you know, won't get out of this situation. She loves
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Speaker 2: that's a Cobalt blue, and I think that she also
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Speaker 2: has had some lift filler that's like migrating here and
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Speaker 2: there sometimes in her car profiles. I'm like, oh interesting.
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Speaker 2: So she obviously goes to work the next morning and
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Speaker 2: he again is still there. The producers come and again
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Speaker 2: to talk to him, and he's wearing like a cream
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Speaker 2: Barefoot Dreams esque comfy cozy rope. I have to assume
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Speaker 2: it's Devons, but I also kind of think that maybe
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Speaker 2: he brought it from Egypt.
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Speaker 1: It is cream, it's cozy.
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Speaker 2: It's a cozy cream rope. She's going to go meet
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Speaker 2: up with Astra, and we know that Astra has to
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Speaker 2: lay down that law. He has no friends that have
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Speaker 2: a recount conversation with, but she does. And Astra is
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Speaker 2: like all of us, except that Astra won't yell at her,
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Speaker 2: which is not what I would do.
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Speaker 1: I would yell at her. I couldn't be on.
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Speaker 2: They'd be like that Chris is insane and she's abusive
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Speaker 2: to her friend. But at some point I'd just be
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Speaker 2: shaking Debbie and be.
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Speaker 1: Like, no slap, slap girl, wake up, you know.
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Speaker 2: So they meet and Debbie's like, I'm embarrassed. Yeah, I
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Speaker 2: like everything that's happened.
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Speaker 1: Astra's rocking her nineties esque uniform, which is like a
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Speaker 1: green and black flannel docks and sort of kool Aid
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Speaker 1: stained hair. Astra says that Mito came like super fucking.
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Speaker 2: Close to her face and was in her space like
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Speaker 2: he was gonna fight, and that he was immature and
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Speaker 2: also inappropriate, and that he's over forty, so grow the
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Speaker 2: fuck up, which is exactly true. Den Debbie's like, can
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Speaker 2: you calm down? Astra, can you just calm down? Astra
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Speaker 2: right here starts to realize is that Debbie is on
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Speaker 2: the wrong side of her story.
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Speaker 1: Astra's like, me.
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Speaker 2: Calm down, me come down talking about what happened last
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Speaker 2: night and your guy, me calm down.
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Speaker 1: We all saw that. Wow telling.
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Speaker 2: Debbie starts to low key defend him, and Astra's like, okay,
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Speaker 2: let me see, let me regroup. Okay, do you think
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Speaker 2: that he really loves you?
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Speaker 1: It doesn't feel genuine, which is the best that she
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Speaker 1: can do saying all the things we've said. Now.
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Speaker 2: Another nightmarish thing is that Debbie's been on TikTok with
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Speaker 2: sad music playing in the background for half a video
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Speaker 2: to be like the mean things that you guys have
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Speaker 2: been saying and also please stop calling him gay, And
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Speaker 2: we're like, okay, ok K.
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Speaker 1: But you know that right, you see it? You the
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Speaker 1: pants and everything.
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Speaker 2: Like Debbie put all twelve of her toes down and
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Speaker 2: was like, I highly doubt this isn't a TikTok that
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Speaker 2: Meadow would move across country, give up everything that he's
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Speaker 2: known and loved what just for a simple acting dream. Meanwhile,
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Speaker 2: Rissu's mom is like, of course he would, Debbie, it's
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Speaker 2: the greatest country in the world. Edward doesn't even have
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Speaker 2: weird acting aspirations. Debbie obviously, you know, doesn't have that either.
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Speaker 2: But it's crazy to Yeah, it's really hilarious to think
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Speaker 2: that she thinks that no person would ever do such
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Speaker 2: a thing, when in fact, acting dreams is one of
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Speaker 2: those things that has definitely made people move. I know,
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Speaker 2: I was born and raised in the valley and you know,
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Speaker 2: outskirts of Los Angeles, and I'll tell you, people definitely
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Speaker 2: do move for this Pacific dream. A lot of them
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Speaker 2: do all the time, continue to do so, even though
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Speaker 2: it's a failing industry. Debbie is like now skirting around
21:15
Speaker 2: the idea that this isn't over, even though she said
21:19
Speaker 2: it was over, even though he said it was over,
21:20
Speaker 2: And even though she said look for flights, he was like,
21:23
Speaker 2: i'd I have to look for fights. But there were
21:25
Speaker 2: the one today and we're like, that's not real. Yes,
21:30
Speaker 2: I do think there's a flight you can get to
21:33
Speaker 2: go back to Egypt, like at any time, Like surely
21:37
Speaker 2: maybe not from Louis Armstrong Airport, which, of course I
21:41
Speaker 2: keep mentioning because I do love that airport. It's the
21:43
Speaker 2: one in New Orleans, but like, surely he can get
21:46
Speaker 2: a flight from.
21:47
Speaker 1: There to Atlanta, Atlanta back to London, London to Egypt
21:51
Speaker 1: or god bless New Orleans to New York, New York
21:54
Speaker 1: to London, London to Egypt or whatever it is to Paris.
21:56
Speaker 2: Honey, I'm this there is Yeah, you can start the
22:01
Speaker 2: journey for sure. When he says that, I'm like, oh
22:05
Speaker 2: my god, Debbie's like, well, I'll tell you what has
22:10
Speaker 2: to happen for this to move forward.
22:11
Speaker 1: He has to apologize.
22:17
Speaker 2: He just has to say I'm sorry. Also, he's not
22:19
Speaker 2: going to say I'm sorry. What's going to happen is
22:21
Speaker 2: he is going to yell at you for being frustrated
22:25
Speaker 2: and blowing up at him, and bitch, you're gonna apologize
22:28
Speaker 2: because we've already seen it happen, and then you're gonna
22:31
Speaker 2: ask for a ring, and we're gonna like swallow our
22:36
Speaker 2: whole heads, just like trying to deal and cope with it.
22:43
Speaker 2: It's one of those things, yeah, where you're just like, okay,
22:45
Speaker 2: well I can't stand on a soapbox and try and
22:48
Speaker 2: save someone, you know, drowning.
22:50
Speaker 1: You know, like I don't know why it was.
22:51
Speaker 2: Those are two different thoughts, but I can't, you know,
22:53
Speaker 2: like hang off this cliff, you know, with you about
22:58
Speaker 2: to fall over, just holding my arm dangling somewhat like
23:06
Speaker 2: gripping it too tightly, and then also me falling off
23:09
Speaker 2: this clip. I'm just gonna let you go, Debbie, where's
23:13
Speaker 2: Devin right now? Because Devin lives in this apartment. We
23:17
Speaker 2: have not seen enough of Devin in her sure jan face,
23:20
Speaker 2: and I feel like, yeah, Devin has to come back in,
23:24
Speaker 2: you know, link arms with Astra and be like mom,
23:27
Speaker 2: what the uh? Even lily Bit has like left. We
23:33
Speaker 2: haven't seen lily Bit in like at least a whole episode,
23:35
Speaker 2: maybe two, because lily Bit's like, I don't know if
23:37
Speaker 2: I can do it.
23:39
Speaker 1: I don't know. This two bedroom apartment is still too small.
23:45
Speaker 1: I don't know.
23:47
Speaker 2: What hold that man can have on her because we
23:54
Speaker 2: know that he hasn'tdigmatized her. He's like curly hairmatized her.
23:59
Speaker 2: He's like mean girled her. It's like he is the
24:04
Speaker 2: Regina George and she's like, you know, one of the
24:07
Speaker 2: Amanda Sifred kind of like characters, Like she's just daft
24:11
Speaker 2: and stupid and like loves this like toxic abusive energy. Huh.
24:20
Speaker 2: It really goes to show that like, men aren't shit
24:22
Speaker 2: in New Orleans, she can't find anyone that would possibly
24:26
Speaker 2: treat her better, or she has such a specific type
24:30
Speaker 2: and the specific type is.
24:31
Speaker 1: For me, not it.
24:33
Speaker 2: Okay, let's move on to Annabelle and Shay. So she
24:39
Speaker 2: comes back from the saddest spa we've ever seen that
24:44
Speaker 2: gave her such a shitty manicure. There was no facial
24:47
Speaker 2: there was no massage, and all she got was Allison
24:52
Speaker 2: being like, I was gonna tell herself, but then my
24:56
Speaker 2: dad told her so, But I'm gonna build on this
25:00
Speaker 2: Angie being like, no, I no, I never do anything
25:03
Speaker 2: weird with your husband. So, because Angie had such a
25:11
Speaker 2: reaction to annabel which was that she wouldn't touch Shay
25:13
Speaker 2: with a ten foot pole or a big as deerhead,
25:16
Speaker 2: Angie now feels better and things that Angie's telling Sorry,
25:20
Speaker 2: Annabelle feels better things that Angie's telling the truth.
25:23
Speaker 1: And now Annabelle.
25:26
Speaker 2: Has sort of joined forces with Shay to be like,
25:29
Speaker 2: but I'm still worried about Nicole. She accepts Shae's apology
25:34
Speaker 2: and she's like, great, guess what. It's football nine in
25:37
Speaker 2: America or watching football on NBC, just like the Carr
25:42
Speaker 2: Underwood song, and you know what comes with football, beer
25:46
Speaker 2: and my friends. Let's all hang out have beer in
25:49
Speaker 2: my friends And she's like, no, you're not out of
25:52
Speaker 2: the doghouse yet. And obviously either of mie. There's dog
25:55
Speaker 2: hare everywhere. So one thing I'm not going to do
25:58
Speaker 2: is enforce the Asian stereotype household rule of.
26:01
Speaker 1: Taking off our shoes.
26:02
Speaker 2: We're all gonna wear our shoes all the time because
26:04
Speaker 2: you know, here's neither nor there, and I don't trust
26:07
Speaker 2: my feet on this, and so you can have your
26:09
Speaker 2: shoes on too. We're gonna stay home and drink herbal
26:14
Speaker 2: tea and do yoga. And he's like, we're gonna do
26:18
Speaker 2: what now. She's like, no beer, and he's like and
26:23
Speaker 2: she's like herbal tea, one of those like slimming down
26:26
Speaker 2: tea's honey, because you're getting chubs, chubs, my gubs. And
26:29
Speaker 2: we're gonna do yoga, which is basically just stretching. And
26:32
Speaker 2: he is like having to say okay for this or
26:35
Speaker 2: it's producer led, you tell me, because I do feel
26:37
Speaker 2: like if it was an important game and if he
26:39
Speaker 2: really wanted to have beers with friends. He'd be like, Okay,
26:41
Speaker 2: I'll do this yoga for twenty minutes, but I'm saying
26:43
Speaker 2: right now, right afterward, I'm gonna again some beer. A
26:45
Speaker 2: man like this isn't gonna suddenly change because of the
26:49
Speaker 2: love of a woman. You can tell very much that
26:52
Speaker 2: Shay's whole viewpoint is that he would like Annabelle to
26:55
Speaker 2: take care of him because she is very good at
26:58
Speaker 2: doing so, and also do all the things for him
27:00
Speaker 2: that he doesn't want to do, like reach his toenails
27:03
Speaker 2: and also let him, you know, have something to poke on.
27:06
Speaker 2: And also, you know, he likes someone who's going to
27:10
Speaker 2: try and get rid of just sixty percent of the
27:13
Speaker 2: dog hair on the couch, make the bed in the morning,
27:16
Speaker 2: and have him keep doing Shae.
27:20
Speaker 1: Good old Southern boy Shay.
27:26
Speaker 2: The parallels between him and Katie are hilarious to me,
27:30
Speaker 2: except that I feel like Josh isn't so forthcoming with
27:34
Speaker 2: why he still he stays around. But both Annabelle and
27:37
Speaker 2: Josh are getting something from those relationships. So as Shake
27:42
Speaker 2: gets on the ground to do whatever yoga she thinks
27:46
Speaker 2: she's going to do, and she's basically just warming him
27:48
Speaker 2: up for what also will be a zumba class. When
27:51
Speaker 2: he gets his shit together, you really see the dog
27:54
Speaker 2: looking at him being like, I'm judging you, and also
28:00
Speaker 2: huh huh, guess who's on the couch right now enjoying
28:03
Speaker 2: their life, and guess who's on the floor, bitch, Shay.
28:07
Speaker 2: The kinds of shirts that Shay wears are polyester and
28:13
Speaker 2: too tight for him. And then you also kind of
28:16
Speaker 2: feel like, don't breathe and probably very aren't comfortable. Very
28:19
Speaker 2: aren't comfortable, is what I said. You know that senses
28:23
Speaker 2: very aren't grammatically correct. Let's move on though, to Katie
28:29
Speaker 2: and Josh. Katie and Josh.
28:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, Katie and Josh have a huge episode. Uh.
28:41
Speaker 2: It's always interesting when they decide to give us like
28:43
Speaker 2: more of someone or less of someone, But it feels
28:48
Speaker 2: like they've acquired some amount of furniture, like either from
28:52
Speaker 2: her friend or whatnot. Because he now has a desk
28:57
Speaker 2: and an office chair, and he admits the office share
29:00
Speaker 2: is nice, it's a good office.
29:03
Speaker 1: It's good.
29:04
Speaker 2: It's a great office chair. He thinks it's comfortable. He's like, okay,
29:09
Speaker 2: you're right, great, and then she starts saying things that
29:14
Speaker 2: we also realize our direct comments to him that he doesn't.
29:20
Speaker 1: Believe because he's used to like.
29:24
Speaker 2: A passive, aggressive society, and she's kind of direct. So
29:28
Speaker 2: she's like, I just, you know, don't feel comfortable sharing
29:31
Speaker 2: a space or like ever living with people.
29:36
Speaker 1: I don't like having to hold space.
29:37
Speaker 2: For others and share space with them. Katie, for all
29:43
Speaker 2: of her eccentricities, is highly judgmental on how Josh lives.
29:48
Speaker 2: Almost like Katie thinks that everything she does is the
29:51
Speaker 2: right way and smart way to do things, even though
29:54
Speaker 2: in confessionals she's also open that her executive functioning and
30:01
Speaker 2: so some of her like tightly held beliefs about money
30:06
Speaker 2: or how to buy eggs, or what she wants to
30:09
Speaker 2: do or what she's capable of doing in any given
30:12
Speaker 2: time doesn't seem to like follow through with, Like she
30:16
Speaker 2: doesn't seem to want to change her behavior in the
30:20
Speaker 2: presence of someone who does things differently. She almost like
30:24
Speaker 2: leans back on her laurels to defend her behavior, which
30:27
Speaker 2: is she's like, you put a lot of pressure on
30:30
Speaker 2: me to get things done in a certain way by
30:33
Speaker 2: a certain time, And what he wants to do is
30:40
Speaker 2: like put together a house to be livable, and she
30:44
Speaker 2: doesn't have all the capabilities to get all that done
30:47
Speaker 2: because they're overwhelming to her, and she like hyper scrutinizes
30:51
Speaker 2: the best way and or cheapest way, which is in
30:53
Speaker 2: her mind the best way to do so. And so
30:56
Speaker 2: because he wants to get things done, he's not allowing
30:59
Speaker 2: her to do that process of think about do one
31:02
Speaker 2: small thing, then get overwhelmed and do something else and
31:04
Speaker 2: get distracted and then be like, well, just wait, just wait,
31:07
Speaker 2: just wait, because she doesn't see the value and having
31:12
Speaker 2: a put together, livable home that feels good to her
31:18
Speaker 2: visually and space wise, as well as make her partner
31:24
Speaker 2: happy and feeling settled. Sometimes like disorganization in the mind
31:36
Speaker 2: not can be remedied, but can feel a certain you know,
31:41
Speaker 2: relief from being in an organized aesthetically comfortable, if not
31:49
Speaker 2: beautiful in a way, like aesthetically pleasing space. You know,
31:55
Speaker 2: like having your shit all over the place and never
31:58
Speaker 2: making your bed and like how having you know.
32:00
Speaker 1: Dishes pile up. All of that does something to.
32:06
Speaker 2: Your mind as well as like all the things you
32:09
Speaker 2: have to do. It doesn't relieve it, It makes it
32:12
Speaker 2: more intense because you start to calculate all the things
32:16
Speaker 2: you have to do and then just the mental fatigue
32:19
Speaker 2: of your to do list could be overwhelming, but walking
32:22
Speaker 2: into a space that you've taken the time to put
32:25
Speaker 2: together that makes you feel relief, slash, capable and productive.
32:39
Speaker 2: You know, like is mental health, Like it is mentally
32:44
Speaker 2: healthy and also is positive for like your own self care,
32:50
Speaker 2: just like in some ways, you know, taking a shower,
32:52
Speaker 2: doing your hair, putting on clothes that is like clean
32:55
Speaker 2: and steamed or whatever like that you feel like you
32:58
Speaker 2: look good like helps visually sort of connect and aligne
33:03
Speaker 2: your thought processes and how you feel about yourself and
33:06
Speaker 2: what you know you can accomplish with like the rest
33:09
Speaker 2: of your day. And that's why I guess I go
33:13
Speaker 2: back and forth being like, who is her like psychologist
33:16
Speaker 2: and has she done like cognitive behavioral therapy to understand
33:21
Speaker 2: like the ways in which she could help herself. It's
33:25
Speaker 2: just so interesting how defensive she gets about her lifestyle
33:28
Speaker 2: choices in relationship to him, Because what's also interesting is
33:36
Speaker 2: that you start to feel a certain level of disrespect
33:41
Speaker 2: that she has for the way he lives his life.
33:45
Speaker 1: If he is.
33:46
Speaker 2: Someone who has made money and who has money and
33:48
Speaker 2: has savings and wants to like you know, put together
33:52
Speaker 2: a normal home that has all the accouterments that would
33:55
Speaker 2: allow you know, daily life to be easy, somewhat comfortab
34:00
Speaker 2: and you know, like there's eggs involved, and you feel
34:03
Speaker 2: good about the eggs because you feel like they're either
34:05
Speaker 2: pasture raised or organic or fresh. And you have a
34:08
Speaker 2: table to sit on that makes sense, and you have
34:11
Speaker 2: like a chair to do you're typing from, and you
34:13
Speaker 2: also have like a full sized bed or queen where
34:16
Speaker 2: you you know, know that the mattress underneath isn't teeming
34:20
Speaker 2: with who knows what. You're able to sort of like
34:28
Speaker 2: breathe in a way and accomplish things in a way
34:32
Speaker 2: because like you're starting from a good place. And she
34:37
Speaker 2: like it's like, yeah, she doesn't take any of that
34:40
Speaker 2: in and she's just like he's wasteful, he's demanding. She's
34:51
Speaker 2: not at a place yet where she's like, you know what,
34:54
Speaker 2: you do things differently than me, But I can see
34:58
Speaker 2: the value of how you want to live, and I
35:01
Speaker 2: understand that. I am like, so far the pendulum shifts
35:05
Speaker 2: for me in a different direction. So far I would
35:08
Speaker 2: really like compromise and come together and like maybe you
35:12
Speaker 2: can help me, you know, get this place.
35:18
Speaker 1: Good for both of us.
35:21
Speaker 2: Or she could easily just be like, all right, we'll
35:23
Speaker 2: just go out and buy your own eggs with your
35:25
Speaker 2: own money. Then i won't tell you what's right or wrong.
35:29
Speaker 2: I'll just assume people do things differently. I know I
35:31
Speaker 2: do things differently. It's just an interesting place to not
35:35
Speaker 2: be in. So they get into a crazy conversation because
35:41
Speaker 2: she's like, yeah, I don't get why I have to
35:44
Speaker 2: feel any empathy for you at all, because I've gone
35:48
Speaker 2: in many different countries and pet sat in them for
35:52
Speaker 2: a year or less, and I've traveled, so like, why
35:55
Speaker 2: is it so hard for you to come here? And
35:56
Speaker 2: he's like, bitch, I moved here, and also so like
36:00
Speaker 2: I left everything I knew and it's hard to be
36:02
Speaker 2: an immigrant in America. He doesn't say brown person though,
36:05
Speaker 2: you know, God bless, and she's like like, I guess
36:11
Speaker 2: I relate. But it's also like crazy that her mind
36:16
Speaker 2: let her say that sentence in the first place. Guess what,
36:22
Speaker 2: it's her birthday, and it's interesting that Josh thought that
36:26
Speaker 2: she was twenty seven when she was only twenty six,
36:32
Speaker 2: and now it's her twenty seventh birthday. And he's like, oh,
36:34
Speaker 2: it's not twenty eight? How do you not know the
36:36
Speaker 2: age of your fiance? Josh really feels like Josh has
36:44
Speaker 2: never had the possibility of a lady in his life
36:52
Speaker 2: for longer than like a two day period of time,
36:56
Speaker 2: and he doesn't want to give it up because his
37:03
Speaker 2: clock is taken or he wants to be settled in
37:06
Speaker 2: some way. It's interesting, I already said this out loud,
37:11
Speaker 2: but like, it's true that some women, some people, some
37:15
Speaker 2: people give off this like hectic, chaotic energy and it
37:20
Speaker 2: reads to some boring men as being adventurous, charming, exciting
37:29
Speaker 2: that her presence brings about experiences that he wouldn't necessarily
37:37
Speaker 2: have because she provides access to situations he wouldn't be in.
37:44
Speaker 2: Like either because she is more jovial because of the
37:49
Speaker 2: alcohol and like invites social people to come in and
37:52
Speaker 2: then offer certain experiences. Or she's just so down in
37:57
Speaker 2: the moment for things that she allows them to say
38:01
Speaker 2: yes to things that they would maybe moll over instead
38:05
Speaker 2: or not do if it wasn't with her, and that
38:10
Speaker 2: kind of life force becomes intoxicating to them. It's kind
38:17
Speaker 2: of like she's not rich right, like, or maybe she is,
38:19
Speaker 2: but like she's not rich in the sense of like
38:22
Speaker 2: dating someone who's so wealthy that like they're like, well,
38:25
Speaker 2: do you want to hop on the PJ and go
38:27
Speaker 2: to my friend's house and bermuda this weekend?
38:29
Speaker 1: You know, it's like I haven't.
38:30
Speaker 2: Dated that person either, But if you're dating that kind
38:33
Speaker 2: of person, then they have like all of these experiences
38:36
Speaker 2: that you might just be able to like hitch your
38:39
Speaker 2: boat to, right, Like, oh, I guess you know this weekend,
38:41
Speaker 2: I was just going to like stay home and watch
38:44
Speaker 2: Netflix documentaries. But you know she has all these rich
38:48
Speaker 2: friends that do these fun things and or you know,
38:51
Speaker 2: if you were dating someone that was pseudo in some
38:53
Speaker 2: sort of scene or a famous person.
38:56
Speaker 1: That.
38:58
Speaker 2: They color your social life in such a way that.
39:05
Speaker 1: You can.
39:08
Speaker 2: Detect in your life before and after the BC and
39:11
Speaker 2: ad of them in your life, because your life used
39:15
Speaker 2: to look like, well.
39:15
Speaker 1: I would just hang with my friends and play D
39:17
Speaker 1: and D. But then I started dating this person that like,
39:20
Speaker 1: you know, wants to go to or wants to travel together,
39:25
Speaker 1: or gets invited to things, or you know, is really
39:28
Speaker 1: active in some community that I, you know, wouldn't necessarily
39:31
Speaker 1: be in, but it's fun and you know, makes me
39:35
Speaker 1: feel like I'm alive. Like she has that quality that
39:38
Speaker 1: Josh can't get enough of.
39:40
Speaker 2: So she's like, guess what for my birthday? I'm going
39:45
Speaker 2: to this is a shock sit down. I want to
39:49
Speaker 2: go listen to a bar. Okay, wait and drink alcohol
39:59
Speaker 2: with my friends.
40:03
Speaker 1: And Josh is like, didn't see that one coming. Has
40:12
Speaker 1: anyone ever just been like, bitch, go to do like a.
40:15
Speaker 2: Murder mystery dinner. She's like, I have something to tell you.
40:21
Speaker 2: Sit down and he's like, uh, okay, are you pregnant?
40:24
Speaker 2: And she's like, oh no, no, I'm on the pill.
40:29
Speaker 2: I have one of those copper iud's.
40:31
Speaker 1: I don't know.
40:32
Speaker 2: He's like, She's like, remember my friend Ryan, you know
40:34
Speaker 2: the Ryan that you hate, the Ryan that like knows
40:36
Speaker 2: that we were together. But then I made out with
40:38
Speaker 2: him two to four times since we've been together, and
40:42
Speaker 2: he's like yeah, She's.
40:44
Speaker 1: Like I invited him.
40:47
Speaker 2: Ryan is some guy that she went to Chicago one
40:49
Speaker 2: time and I don't know men in a dating app
40:50
Speaker 2: and was like or I don't know. She says, a
40:52
Speaker 2: run club. I mean, is it just like run club
40:54
Speaker 2: meetups everywhere? And she was like, let's run one day.
40:57
Speaker 2: Guess what we should do the Boston Marathon, No Chicago Marathon.
41:00
Speaker 2: I don't know where she met on one of those places, honey,
41:02
Speaker 2: and he was like okay, and then they just kept
41:04
Speaker 2: you know, drinking after their like you know, big runs,
41:07
Speaker 2: you know, and then very dehydrated together and then they
41:10
Speaker 2: needed to make out. Josh is really mad at Ryan
41:14
Speaker 2: when he should be mad at who Katie or really himself,
41:17
Speaker 2: because guess what, he met Katie doing the very thing
41:20
Speaker 2: that she's doing, which is making out with people, and
41:22
Speaker 2: for some reason he has a problem with that. You know,
41:26
Speaker 2: she told him that she's that kind of person and
41:29
Speaker 2: showed him.
41:31
Speaker 1: Why is he mad at Ryan? Makes no sense? So
41:35
Speaker 1: we also find.
41:35
Speaker 2: Out that Joshua has a list of people that he
41:38
Speaker 2: doesn't like in her life. And I'm sure they're just
41:41
Speaker 2: all the men that she was hooked up with, but
41:42
Speaker 2: if he was also like, and your mom's on that list.
41:44
Speaker 1: Just kidding.
41:45
Speaker 2: But she of course invited Ryan and then she has
41:47
Speaker 2: to tell him to his face and he's like, Okay, well,
41:50
Speaker 2: what I don't want you to do, though, is take
41:53
Speaker 2: shots and make out with people. And she sometimes she
41:58
Speaker 2: looks at him and the confessionals or in the docuseries
42:02
Speaker 2: are watching where you see her eyes yell at him no,
42:10
Speaker 2: but she stopped her lips from doing so. But she's
42:14
Speaker 2: kind of like blinking and rebooting in that process.
42:20
Speaker 1: So it looks like this, like I know you're on
42:29
Speaker 1: a podcast, so you're like, bitch, what did you just do?
42:31
Speaker 1: It's just, yeah, you know what I did. It's her face.
42:33
Speaker 2: She talks in tiktoks about the fact that she knows
42:36
Speaker 2: she's a blinker and she doesn't know why she does it.
42:39
Speaker 2: Maybe she doesn't when she's thinking or having thoughts, and
42:42
Speaker 2: guess what, she has a lot of thinking thought moments.
42:48
Speaker 2: She's like, Okay, I won't take shots and make out
42:52
Speaker 2: with people. It's just that sometimes I like to seek
42:57
Speaker 2: and rerec validation. And she like thrill and entertainment. Josh
43:03
Speaker 2: is like me too, That's why I'm with you. Don't
43:06
Speaker 2: you get those things with me? Aren't I thrilling and
43:10
Speaker 2: entertaining enough for you? And Katie is like blink.
43:15
Speaker 1: Blink blink, blink, blink blink blink blink, blink, lips just
43:18
Speaker 1: pursing into a no, just being like mm mmmmm mm hmmm.
43:27
Speaker 2: Is Joshua a runner? Like is he you know, it
43:32
Speaker 2: seems like he's running towards his problems. Katie, he doesn't
43:38
Speaker 2: seem like a runner. He seems like a stare. He
43:41
Speaker 2: seems like a floater that attaches his dinghy or gets
43:45
Speaker 2: his anchor and then just sits for too long in
43:49
Speaker 2: troubled waters.
43:51
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I work in metaphors now.
43:57
Speaker 2: Katie has moments of lucidity, which makes us wonder why
44:00
Speaker 2: she doesn't like keep on to them, because she's like,
44:02
Speaker 2: I want to be a good partner and we're like
44:04
Speaker 2: you do, oh you do?
44:06
Speaker 1: Oh well, then here's some things.
44:09
Speaker 2: Allow other people to live, especially when you live so
44:14
Speaker 2: specifically and particularly.
44:18
Speaker 1: Also don't you know, disrespect them on national television over
44:27
Speaker 1: and over again doing the same shit that you can
44:30
Speaker 1: stop by not putting yourself in those situations, but you
44:34
Speaker 1: do over and over again. Can you imagine, like how
44:41
Speaker 1: many great things in Portland she could do for her birthday?
44:44
Speaker 1: But you know, she goes to a place called the
44:48
Speaker 1: Twilight Room, so.
44:52
Speaker 2: She's trying to confirm who's going to be there, and
44:55
Speaker 2: then Josh is like, have you texted that guy I hate?
44:57
Speaker 2: And she's like, yep, yep, we didn't talk on the phone. Though,
45:04
Speaker 2: so we didn't talk on the phone. It's like, bitch,
45:06
Speaker 2: we're twenties. You don't talk on the phone anymore. Then
45:09
Speaker 2: you guys talk on the phone. What do you mean
45:11
Speaker 2: talk on the phone like your voice people to send
45:14
Speaker 2: voice notes back and forth.
45:15
Speaker 1: Now you know that.
45:18
Speaker 2: Now Josh asks the question, why do you want to
45:20
Speaker 2: be friends with someone who we both know you don't
45:23
Speaker 2: really have friend vibes with and you have repeatedly like
45:27
Speaker 2: kissed and it makes me upset, And she's like, well,
45:31
Speaker 2: he's fun, you're not. And also he would pick up
45:37
Speaker 2: if I called him in the middle and I crying.
45:43
Speaker 2: I found that very interesting also just to say it
45:48
Speaker 2: is like your partner who I'm assuming is there in
45:53
Speaker 2: the middle of the night physically with you if you
45:56
Speaker 2: are waking up and crying. But we also know that
46:00
Speaker 2: she meant she wants someone to when she's drunk in
46:06
Speaker 2: the middle of the night, she can call and he
46:08
Speaker 2: can come over, like to be like, he's fun and
46:14
Speaker 2: I get emotional support from him.
46:17
Speaker 1: Seems like cheating.
46:20
Speaker 2: You just met this guy like at a meetup club
46:23
Speaker 2: for runners, like and then you guys made out, Like
46:26
Speaker 2: what is this person going to tell you?
46:28
Speaker 1: In a different city if you're crying.
46:30
Speaker 2: Also, yeah, like the fact that Josh isn't like, well,
46:32
Speaker 2: you would also just wake me up and I would
46:34
Speaker 2: help you through that time.
46:36
Speaker 1: I'm your soon to be husband.
46:42
Speaker 2: He's like, well, what would you do if I was
46:45
Speaker 2: the one that wanted to repeatedly be around someone who
46:50
Speaker 2: I was emotionally cheating with? And she's like, oh, I
46:51
Speaker 2: would hate that. I would ask you.
46:52
Speaker 1: Not to hang out with him. I would just yeah,
46:54
Speaker 1: but I don't want to be a hypocrite. So we're like, well,
46:57
Speaker 1: you just said that, so you are. But you just
47:04
Speaker 1: said that, and you heard yourself say it. It didn't
47:07
Speaker 1: even dawn on you after you say it to be
47:09
Speaker 1: like you know what, You're right, She just says, I
47:12
Speaker 1: don't want to be a hypocrite, so and then she
47:15
Speaker 1: just stops talking. He yikes.
47:22
Speaker 2: Okay, So she sort of lets it slip that she
47:32
Speaker 2: is sort of low key trying to make him break
47:36
Speaker 2: up with her by bringing up and or putting herselfs
47:40
Speaker 2: in situations to make out with people.
47:42
Speaker 1: And then we sort of remember her.
47:44
Speaker 2: Being like, I don't want to live with anyone, And
47:45
Speaker 2: then we sort of remember her being like, I didn't
47:47
Speaker 2: want you to move here. I don't really know if
47:49
Speaker 2: I want to get married. And then we're like, what's real?
47:54
Speaker 2: Do you have OCD that makes you have intrusive thoughts
47:56
Speaker 2: about making out with people? Are you an alcoholic and
47:59
Speaker 2: that's why you want to make it up people? Are
48:01
Speaker 2: you just like not really into Josh and also feel
48:03
Speaker 2: like you have better prospects out there, and so you
48:05
Speaker 2: like are leading him on, but also want him to
48:07
Speaker 2: be the one that breaks up with you, so you
48:09
Speaker 2: don't You're not a bad person, and so you just
48:11
Speaker 2: keep making out with people. Is I also, Josh, like,
48:17
Speaker 2: are you picking up on what she's putting down? Which
48:18
Speaker 2: is what I'm just saying out loud right now. When
48:21
Speaker 2: they get to the Toilight Room bar, she says that
48:24
Speaker 2: her phone is stressing her out, and uh so she
48:26
Speaker 2: gives her phone to Josh and we're like, Yeah, why
48:28
Speaker 2: is your phone stressing you out? Is it that people
48:31
Speaker 2: keep texting you on your birthday to be like we're
48:32
Speaker 2: going to be there soon or whatnot? That part I get,
48:35
Speaker 2: But it's more more so that she thinks, I think
48:37
Speaker 2: that she's going to lose her phone, so she asks
48:39
Speaker 2: Josh to put in her pocket now at that point,
48:42
Speaker 2: why Josh does a low key text Ryan. It's like
48:44
Speaker 2: we changed locations, go to the Portland Bridge.
48:48
Speaker 1: He doesn't.
48:50
Speaker 2: Now Josh shows up like in a dinner jacket and
48:54
Speaker 2: her friends show up with a baby and like Patagonia
48:58
Speaker 2: coats no like a dinner, you know, like it's just
49:03
Speaker 2: a He dresses wildly different than how people in Portland dress.
49:10
Speaker 2: Ryan comes up and we meet Ryan, and we also
49:13
Speaker 2: realize Ryan is a little bit of a blinker too.
49:16
Speaker 2: He does that like one second blink that's a little
49:19
Speaker 2: too long, but also like mildly interesting and also neuro
49:23
Speaker 2: divergent maybe in some way, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
49:33
Speaker 2: he's he has a little like one of those like
49:36
Speaker 2: slight blink ticks.
49:40
Speaker 1: He's also in love with Katie.
49:43
Speaker 2: He can blame honey, but you won't miss that gaze.
49:48
Speaker 2: So he also sort of reiterates things that we already
49:51
Speaker 2: know that like is Katie's pull on a certain type
49:54
Speaker 2: of men. He's like, she's just that whirlwind friend that
49:58
Speaker 2: creates interesting opportunities and situations wherever she goes.
50:03
Speaker 1: I can't get enough of it.
50:07
Speaker 2: So then Josh takes Ryan out to the back and
50:11
Speaker 2: Katie's just there standing awkwardly looking back and forth, and
50:14
Speaker 2: Josh is.
50:15
Speaker 1: Like, why are you here?
50:18
Speaker 2: And Ryan is like, well, because I thought it'd be
50:22
Speaker 2: a good time. She's a good time goal, it's a
50:26
Speaker 2: good time. Gal's birthday, and I was traveling.
50:28
Speaker 1: Also, I'm a big runner, you haven't you heard, so
50:30
Speaker 1: I ran here to the birthday. You know.
50:34
Speaker 2: Also I kind of want Ryan to be like, oh,
50:36
Speaker 2: because your girlfriend invited me. I have the text to
50:42
Speaker 2: prove it and the voice notes. But then Ryan says
50:47
Speaker 2: something very interesting, and this is where the episode ends
50:51
Speaker 2: for them, because you know, it's a cliffhanger. He says
50:55
Speaker 2: that he talks to Katie, and you know, they talk
51:00
Speaker 2: a lot about what she wants out of life and
51:03
Speaker 2: what she wants in her life, which leads us to
51:09
Speaker 2: believe Eddie the following things that Katie's like, I'll tell
51:13
Speaker 2: you what I want Ryan, it's you. I just don't
51:15
Speaker 2: know how to tell Josh or I tell you what
51:18
Speaker 2: I want Ryan, It's to be in a polyamorous relationship.
51:23
Speaker 1: And I want to be in one with you and Josh.
51:27
Speaker 2: Or hey, Ryan, I want to culk Josh cock wait
51:34
Speaker 2: cuckled Josh. It's really it's my thing, and how do
51:39
Speaker 2: we get him on board? Like she either is going
51:44
Speaker 2: to have Ryan break up with Josh for her, like
51:47
Speaker 2: that is what it all sort of like feels like. Meanwhile,
51:52
Speaker 2: I mean Katie is just there looking at both of them,
52:00
Speaker 2: Lincoln wanting to take shots. Obviously we know what's going
52:06
Speaker 2: to happen. It's absolute messiness and I can't wait for it.
52:09
Speaker 2: So listen. That's the end of part one, my loves,
52:12
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52:15
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52:17
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