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07/12/2023 580 Live with Dave Allen - Jim Workman, Kate Farmer · The Dave Allen Show

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a little fun that may anger a few people, but you know that's part
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of part of the fun of doing a talk show. Like we talk a
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lot on the show, and you have many times have you heard these kids
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today? Well, I'm probably one of them that says things like that from
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time to time. But we're gonna have an author by the name of Kate
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Foster on the show. Now. Kate is nationally known and she is a
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member of Generation Z, and she's written an article about why it is that
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some I always say, some not all Generation Z folks just don't have a
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work ethic. Again, some not all, But she's a member of that
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generation, so I guess she can talk about it. We'll get to Kate
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coming up a little bit later on with your calls and text too. I
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want to get a little bit more into Bob Huggin situation, because every time
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that I cracked the microphone at nine oh seven Monday through Friday, there's always
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something new that comes up into one person who's been keeping miss sevill have,
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but one who's been doing a great job of keeping our eye. Los Gym
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Workman from Wiley and Wimpey's Sports Digest, the premier sports publication in West Virginia.
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Jim stops my the Palmar Store studio. Now, Jim, good morning,
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how are you? Good morning, Dave. Appreciate the opportunity to be
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here. Thank you for being here. You know I had you on a
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few weeks ago, Jim, when the hugging story first broke, and so
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much it's happened since. In you and were talking to the green room.
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It seems like that was a lifetime ago. We were kids. You had
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hair of that's how long. That's a long it's bed. We had the
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dui arrest, then the resignation that may or may or may not have been
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a resignation. Now we learn that the dui, if Huggins places card rights
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could be stricken from the record. Now again, I do want to say
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that for the record, that's not uncommon in Pennsylvania. I saw some comments
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on social media talking about his status. That is that's common. They followed
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what they do in Pennsylvania. You got a problem with the end, a
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problem with the law as opposed to a hugging situation. But now comes word
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Jim, late yesterday the Bob fitz Simmons, who had been a close confidant
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to Bob Hugginess, is no longer with the former coach at Simmons sending a
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letter late yesterday to w V General counsel Stephanie Taylor saying as much. Now
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it looks like that we get to David Campbell out of Cleveland, that is
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in now. Jeff Jenkins on the website has got a great story. It's
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the lead story at WV metro news dot com with a complete timeline of all
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this. But what a mask, Jim. So much to unpack here.
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So I was last on June twentieth, Okay, on West Virginia Day.
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On West Virginia Day, we were talking about this. It was four days
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before w VU introduced the new interim coach, Josh Eilert. I was up
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there for that. But just so much to unpack. And Dave, you
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know how I love your opening all the movie clips. But the theme for
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this thing is what we have here is failure to communicate and That's exactly what's
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going on here, because as we talked about on June twentieth, you know,
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the emphasis should have been on you know, Bob Huggins has some issues
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that we need to make sure that he gets on the right path. You
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said that on that date, on that date, So had they maintained that
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communication, that line of communication, we wouldn't be sitting here talking about what
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we're talking about. That's just happened in the last couple of weeks because that's
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what Huggins and his counsel was saying. There's been a failure to communicate.
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He said, he's saying that he didn't authorize the statement that w sent out
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on his behalf. That's a problem, it is, and there's just so
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much again as you said, to unpack her. And let me say,
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with all due respect to a texture for the show yesterday, and I love
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all my callers, textures and listeners. By the way, the texture seemed
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to take issue with my coverage of the Huggins situation asked me not to make
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fun of it. I was not making fun of Coach Huggins personally. What
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I was saying when I was referring to as the Huggins turns. As I
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called with the Jeff yesterday, I was talking about the whole saga, you
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know, not the man, just want to kind of put that out there.
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And I have said, like you that since day one, Jim,
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I wish nothing but the best for coach Huggins moving forward, and have hoped
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that there would be some sort of a path when he's well to get him
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back in the good graces of the university and get him back on campus,
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maybe in some sort of an auxiliary roles or an ambassador of some sort for
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the pro game. You and I talked about another day, Jim, I
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don't see that happening at all at this point. And that was the question
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that I gave to the athletic director Rin Baker on the twenty fourth when I
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was in Morgantown for that event. I asked him, you know, is
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there a plan that you bring Bob Huggins back on a game day and maybe
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send him on a better note, give the fans a chance to give him
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a standing ovation and thank him for all the years in his career. And
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he said, yes, there is a plan for that. We're putting it
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together. So right now, after the twenty fourth to right now. I
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don't know how that's gonna happen. Yeah, and again we're talking with Jim
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working with from Wally Whippy Sports Digest. You're not a lawyer, neither of
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my Jim and I have heard great legal minds of like Harvey Peyton was on
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with Dave Wilson on talking on a Monday that I saw a clip on the
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TV news of Rusty Webb the other night talking about this. They seem to
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think that he ain't coming back at all in any roles. I don't see
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how it can happening. You know. I do know Bob Fitzsimmons, and
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I've worked with him on a couple of occasions, and I'm gonna work with
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him in the next couple of months on something very important. And what I
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know about Bob is he's a great guy. He's a solid guy. For
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him to step away from this, that's a statement in itself. And indeed,
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and it just seems like to use the old adage Jim, that it's
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like the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing. I mean,
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if you think about that, and this whole thing on all sides was
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just bungled I mean so greatly. It seems like, I mean, if
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you think about it, because you know, Huggins and his people come out
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with the statement, you know, I guess the daughter who I don't know
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what all you probably do, but the daughter comes out and says, well,
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Dad recycled cans and you know, and I mean, yeah, okay,
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and again you know, with him not knowing what city he was in,
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and I mean, there was a dangerous situation that onto busy Pittsburgh Street
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the night of a Taylor Swift concert could have gotten a whole lot worse,
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you know, than than than what it did. It's just a sad,
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sad and in the meantime, Um Josh Eilert, who's the new interim head
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coach, has got to try to put together some semblance of a team to
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play in the upcoming season. And then you factory in the transfer portal and
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everything. Yep, it's it is a mess. What I would like to
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hear, which would clear up a lot of confusion, is I'd like to
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hear from some of those WVU basketball players that were in the meeting that Huggins
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had. What did he tell them? Did he say listen, I'm gone,
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I love you, guys. I'm gonna recommend Josh Eilert or whomever and
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just hang in there. I'm gonna be around if you ever need me,
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give me a call. Yeah. Or did he say, listen, I'm
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gonna go into treatment, I'll be back. What did he say? We
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need to We need to hear from the Joe to Sens and guys like that
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that have left who are gone now, Yeah, because you know they they
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wouldn't have any dog in the fight right now. So um, I'd like
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to hear from them. What what actually was said in that team meeting right
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before Huggins went to treatment and what happened when When when when coach goes into
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his office and cleans out his office and loaded off. I mean it was
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documentary. He went in, he had some meetings, said he got a
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couple of boxes and and and was out the door. I mean, what
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was going through If he's not my my, if he's not resigning, then
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why I mean, if that were me, and I'm not Bob Huggins money
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stretch of the imagination, but if that were something, if I were suing
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w VRC Media and they're kicking me out of my little cubbyhole I have upstairs.
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I probably would say, well, you may as well leave all my
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cowboys and Marshall stuff here, because I'm I'll be back in a week.
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Here, two weeks, give your Schwartzenegger impression. I'll be back. I'll
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be back. It is interesting, Jim, because I've talked about the fact
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that I'm gonna be in Morgantown Thursday and Friday as part of this Joe's Nose
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Kids WV Legends golf event benefiting the Hoss Foundation and Children's Hospital, and there's
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gonna be a whole lot of mountaineer legends. They're mainly football players, but
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some other athletes as well. I mean, you know, and coach Neelan
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himself was going to be a part of this as well. Just so many
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I Joe's react on the show earlier this week talking about the name name dropping
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who always going to be there to be a I mean, I'm gonna be
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there, and I'm gonna have my reporter had on for you, you know,
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and and for our news team to say, well, here's what's so
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and so said about Here's what I mean. You know, They've all got
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opinions as well. Yeah, it's interesting too, an invent an event that's
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coming up in a couple of months September thirtieth. I've been invited to come
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down to the Arti Museum that Tex Williams does this West Virginia Sports Legends annual
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thing that he does, and he's invited me down, and Bob Huggins is
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supposed to be there and he has reiterated. Tex Williams says that that he
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will be there. So we'll see. With all due respect to coach Williams,
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um, I mean, maybe I'm wrong, Jim. I don't see
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that happening. And I'm not saying that Tex Williams is not is being untruthful.
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I think he thinks he'll be there, but I just don't see it.
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Here's hope I'm wrong. Here here's the reason why I believe it will.
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The tax has so much respect from people. And I mean Jerry West
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would fly from California to go to Artie, West Virginia to h and he
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didn't fly into Artie International Airport. He gets there, no but to not
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disappoint texts and to support texts. So I I kind of see it happening.
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I think that this may be the first public appearance, although I'm sure
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it's not gonna be open to the public, right, there'll be a lot
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of people there always And this story, now, I mean, did you
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see the piece in USA Today. There was a big piece on USA Today.
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I mean this is not I mean again, you're talking about coach Huggins,
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who is you know, going into this upcoming season, he would have
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been the winningest active coach in the entire NC double A. I mean,
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this is not just a West Virginia story. I mean USA Today did a
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piece on it, just talking about the embarrassment of the whole. And again,
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you can talk about Jim and we'll close it with this. You can
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talk about the embarrassment of the situation without necessarily shaming the individual, you know,
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and it is this is an embarrassment on West Virginia University, an institution
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that quite frankly right now I needs some good news. If you've heard Brad
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mcalhanney on the show yesterday, I mean, eighty percent of the programs are
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now into review. There's financial issues at w You the football team, I
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mean they were picked fourteenth and the Big twelve. I mean, that's that's
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a that's a math thing. There, Jim. It's not a good day
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to be a mountaineer right now. It's not a good summer to be a
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mountaineer right now. And you know another point that I want to make about
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Huggins. You know, he has, it seemed, put himself above the
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team, above the program in pushing this like that. It's this is not
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good for the program. That is a absolute contradiction to what he would have
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put up with with any player. In fact, that probably cost him a
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few recruits if you think about it. Oh yeah, because you had to
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fit into his system. You had to do it his way. It couldn't
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be about one guy. He's not playing by the same set of rules.
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And you know some of his former players would probably if you pulled them and
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say what should be the punishment for Bob Huggins one word, they would say
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treadmill. He was notorious for putting those guys on the treadmills. So yeah,
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he's he's not playing by the same kind of rules, all right,
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Jim. It's always pleasure to have you on the shell. Wally Whippies.
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little breather for you now before the season gets going. I guess right,
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seasons. Yeah, Well, it's the schedules filling up. Next Thursday,
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Three or four two zero two fifty five sixty six. All right, all
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of us old people fifty two year old here about to turn fifty three and
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a couple of months. We love making statements like these young kids today.
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And I'll admit, if you listen to show, I'm as guilty as anyone.
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And I can tell you that when I was a young fellow, I
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hated when someone tried to define what my generation was. In fact, I
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don't like people try to define my beloved Generation X group because we're not all
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the same, you know, any more than millennials, baby boomers or Gen
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Z or the same. So in order to talk about Gen Z, I
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figured you needed to have someone who is not only part of that generation,
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but someone who studied the generation at link. How was that? For a
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long sign up? Kate Foster's person Kate is an author and a student at
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Washington University in Saint Louis, and she's done work for the Virginia General Assembly
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and as a healthcare policy fellow for the Sister Row Institute. She's currently an
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intern with the American Enterprise Institute, and she joins us. Now, Kate,
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good morning, how are you. I'm doing great, It's great to
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be here. Thank you for taking time to be on the show today.
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And sorry, but after my long intro, we don't have time for your
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interview. I'm kiddy. I appreciate you. I appreciate you join us.
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Okay, So, first of all, anyone who thinks like me, and
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if you're one of those people to say these kids today, if you're one
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of those kind of people as I can be, as we all can be
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from from time to time, you're a perfect example of what is gen z.
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If you don't mind my asking exactly, what is your age? I'm
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twenty one, all right, twenty one, and gen z is those that
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are born I think ninety six and up, am I right about that about
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nineteen ninety seven, the earliest about twenty twelve. So we're I'm about roughly
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in the front middle of that. Okay, okay. Um, So,
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so you wrote a piece, uh and it's called my generation Avoids work.
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Here's how that is impacting impacting mental health. Now. It appeared in,
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among other places, the American Spectator. I read it Monday, and I'll
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tell you, kay, it's a great peace and I would urge our listeners
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to check it out. But you start, You're welcome. You start in
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the article by talking about how workforce participation rates have declined, particularly among young
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people. And I do want to say before anyone blames COVID, which certainly
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didn't help, don't get me wrong, but workforce participation had been declining again,
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particularly among young people, since the year two thousand. So that's a
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long time that it's been going down, particularly young young people. What's the
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story here? Why? Yeah, And so you're right to mention COVID,
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because this is really something that COVID got all of us talking about. I
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mean, if you look at the graphs that I'm sighting there in a lot
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of economic data, it's a huge spike downwards in COVID, and then a
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couple of years coming back out of COVID, we're coming about to pre pandemic
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levels. But it looks different now. I mean, gen Z was born
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as early as nineteen ninety seven. I was born in two thousand and one,
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which I know is the big after two thousand stadies feel pretty young for
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you guys. But many people at my current job right now have never worked
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in an in person workplace before. They've only had virtual worker, they haven't
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been in the workforce before. And so we're all entering this workplace in a
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odd post pandemic time and a lot of us didn't have jobs during COVID or
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we had some really odd or like make it yourself jobs, Like I was
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an eBay seller for a year and totally loved it. But it's not the
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traditional workplace environment. And so right now, gen Z's really grappling with what
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their life post pandemic is going to look like work wise, and a lot
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of people have a bit of an aversion to entering a real full time workplace
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again. And there's different cultural narratives about how much we're going to value work
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and what we're going to look like as a generation in the workplace now that
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we're really entering it. And that's really interesting to me in my writing well,
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and one of the things that I found interesting is and gen Z has
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made it clear, as you pointed out to the piece, that many members
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of gen Z your generation and see the working culture as a threat to mental
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health. But you know, Kate, it's been proven time and time began
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to get it. You so greatly point that in your pace that one of
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the best things we can do for mental health is to have steady employment.
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Am I right here? Yeah, it's a really interesting thing that we're really
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learning in the wake of the pandemic, after work was just stripped out of
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so many people's lives. But I think gen Z is balancing two kind of
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important points here. I think gen Z's really right to look at generations before
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us and see that you know, I'm working in DC right now, and
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there's some really like intense corporate work cultures that say you need to put work
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before family, before friends, before that sort of indispensable human need for rest.
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And I think gen Z is right in a sense to come of age
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and think that, you know, I want a balance in my life.
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I don't work to define me and to define my relationships, and I think
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that balance is really important. But on the other side, an over aversion
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to work, and a narrative that oh, all work is bad for mental
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health. Work as a slog you have to get through from nine to five.
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I think we're overlooking the benefits that work gives us in our lives that
23:11
we really really realized coming out of the pandemic, and that work as a
23:15
lot of major social, psychological and character benefits that enhance our life, and
23:21
it's baked into sort of our psychology as humans. I mean, evolutionary psychology
23:26
dictated that humans who did the best, who had the inclination to get up
23:32
and do things, to grow crops, to hind to meet people form advantageous
23:36
social relationships, are the ones who survived and thrived, And it's built into
23:40
us as people to seek out daily occupation, to fill our days with work,
23:44
and we have a lot of great psychological benefits to doing that. The
23:48
completion of tasks makes us feel good, It gives us a sense of purpose
23:52
and a reason to get up in the morning. It improves our mental health.
23:56
And conversely, unemployment has been shown to have really dangerous mental health consequences.
24:00
And so I think I guess my main point of the article, and
24:04
from what I've been studying, is that gen Z should kick up and get
24:07
a job and should really take advantage of these benefits that come out of work,
24:11
and also realize the ability to which work can enhance your mental states.
24:15
And so if you're in a job right now that really is not well suited
24:18
to you, to God and look around and find something that really gives you
24:22
those benefits to the max. And there are I mean, I don't know
24:25
about where you are, but I can tell you that here in West Virginia,
24:26
there are jobs everywhere. And if you don't, if you don't necessarily
24:30
like what it is you're doing now, you can always change. Again,
24:33
we're talking with Kate Foster. Now, you're a gen Zer yourself, as
24:36
you said, born in two thousand. That's hard for me to believe that
24:38
anybody was born in two thousand. But okay, but but trust me,
24:44
you'll get to my one point. You'll say, I can't believe anybody was
24:47
born in twenty twenty three. But but you're a gen Zer yourself. When
24:51
do you witness among you but your counterparts, your peers, your your friends.
24:55
What do you see out there? I think again, I'm seeing a
24:59
little bit of both. I'm seeing like right now, I'm working in DC,
25:03
and so a lot of gen Z around me are growing up in this
25:07
you know, work, work, work. I want to get here,
25:08
I want to be the best. It's very it's very much corporate climbing,
25:11
and it works really well for some people. But I know for me personally,
25:15
that scares me a little bit, and I want to have a well
25:18
rounded, positive life. I think most other gen Z around me are on
25:22
that same mindset. But I think a lot of gen Z is really struggling
25:26
to get themselves out there and settle themselves into the workplace. And I think
25:30
a lot of it comes out of this sort of mental health epidemic that we're
25:33
in right now. It's just another big part of the article here, and
25:36
that GenZ has been called the most depressed generation. I as a gen Z,
25:40
I see mental health and mental health worries all around me all the time.
25:44
I mean, gen Z or twice is likely to report depressions, feelings
25:48
of anxiety, or secrets mental illness. And LINZ is also a very screen
25:52
dominated generation. I can't really remember a time without screens around me. I
25:56
can maybe remember the black dairies, but that's the baddest far as I can
26:00
go back, which always gets older. Kind of hearts laughing, But it
26:04
really is a generation that's more anxious. We're more dominated by screens in the
26:08
Internet, and we're less likely to go out and work, and I think
26:11
that's giving us a greater aversion to entering the real world than other generations before
26:17
us. I think every generation looks down at the one after it and says,
26:19
all to have it easy, and they're not working hard enough. I
26:22
think that's the same across things. But then he does have a unique set
26:26
of placement disadvantages whatever you call it. Well, and that's a very good
26:30
point because you know, again, I'm classic Gen X one in nineteen seventy,
26:33
so so you know, the boomers that raised me, you know,
26:37
said all you kids have it easy, and then and then I you know,
26:41
I like, you know, we all look down on each other.
26:42
And that's that. And they'll get me doing that one hundred of years from
26:45
now, if you don't mind me asking, Kate, what was your background
26:48
like growing up? What did you witness from your family growing up that kind
26:52
of set your mindset? Well, I have a boom or dad who I
26:56
love so so much. He's my biggest fan. Who will very happily go
27:00
into boomer tangent any day of the week. But I'm from Virginia. A
27:04
lot of my families from Mechanic Kill of Virginia, and so I've seen a
27:08
lot of like really hard, honest work around me. And so I think
27:12
I've I've grown up being taught that this is a real social value, and
27:15
that this builds purpose and it builds character and it's good for you who as
27:21
a well rounded person. And I think I'm a product of that in a
27:23
sense. And so coming to BC was a bit of a crazy culture shock
27:27
and a big difference. But I think those values are being lost a little
27:33
bit on younger generations, and those values aren't as transferred onto the online community
27:37
and on social media. But I think it would merit us to have a
27:41
little bit of those values back. I mean, I don't think all gen
27:42
z should go out and get a blue collar job in Channic Still Virginia,
27:47
but I think a robust sense of a culture of work and a culture of
27:52
occupation, and whatever form it may be, it may be taken care of
27:55
an older person, or maybe volunteering or maybe teaching, It can be any
28:00
those many, many jobs you mentioned that are available in West Virginia, for
28:03
example, But a culture that sees it as a social good and a social
28:07
value and something that needs to be a better person. I think we've lost
28:10
a bit about and I personally think it could do as well. When you
28:14
close by saying basically and I'm I don't want to try to put words in
28:18
your mouth that if i'm if I say something wrong, you can certainly correct
28:21
me. But do you feel that if young people care about their mental health
28:23
and the mental health of their friends and others, that they should get off
28:27
their butts and go to work. Yeah, I think that's probably the more
28:33
harsher direct way of saying it, But I think that's I think that's really
28:37
that's the way that we can support others and love others around that. We
28:41
are in truly a mental health epidemic. I see it so much around you,
28:45
with younger people, and the problem is that our mental health systems can't
28:48
keep up. Right now, there are months long wait lists to get care
28:52
for mental health. There are sort of different providers that provide different things that
28:56
may work for you that may not. And it feels like, at least
29:00
from my vantage point, down here, it's overwhelming and a lot of people
29:03
don't know where to go or how to help themselves. And a big product
29:07
of social media certainly is why this is the way it is. But the
29:11
fact of the matter is that we have a major mental health demand and what
29:15
we need is practical, on the ground solutions to help improve generational mental health.
29:19
And that's really what my research has centered around. And I found an
29:22
unexpected benefit in work and steady employment. And I think that a culture that
29:27
encourages people to get out there and find something to do with their day and
29:30
to get all these really great social, psychological and character benefits, that whole
29:36
package that can really help this mental health crisis. And so I think it's
29:40
coming out of that place of love and support and wanting to do something that
29:44
which is me towards work, fascinating peace. And you know, when I
29:48
read it, like I said Monday night, I wanted to try to get
29:51
you booked on the show because I found the piece to be fastering. I
29:52
appreciate you taking time out of your busy schedule there in DC to join us.
29:56
Kate Foster, We'll talk again soon and and thanks a lot for everything
30:00
I appreciate you being here. Thank you so much. This is so much
30:03
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30:19
the news as well. And for anyone who listens to this show and believe
30:23
it or not, I get this a lot more than what you may think.
30:26
In fact, I get the Dave's too liberal. Yeah, believe it
30:32
or not, I actually get that a lot, and listen to this.
30:34
I also get at Dave's too conservative. So somebody said one time, well,
30:40
if the liberals think you're too conservative and the conservatives think you're too liberal,
30:42
you must be doing something right. I don't know, but I will
30:45
say this, and this is gonna push me toward more towards my conservative mindset
30:52
here. I feel that in a lot of ways we become a nation of
30:57
whiners. And I know that's about the most boomer thing. Kate referred to
31:03
her boomer dad. I think that's the most boomer thing you can say from
31:07
a non baby boomer, as I am. But it's my feeling. And
31:11
of course, as I said at the top of the segment, you can't
31:14
paint everyone with one brush and say I mean there were whiney, lazy baby
31:17
boomers too. But I think the difference is is back then, we didn't
31:22
celebrate it. You know, I don't. I don't recall my dad or
31:26
my granddad ever having a mental health day or complaining about their anxiety. In
31:33
the words of my good friend pastor Marylin Collins here in Charleston, miss me
31:38
with that. It sounds much cooler when Marylin Collins says it. And as
31:44
was pointed out by Kate and the piece and has been pointed out by plenty
31:47
of mental health professionals, the best thing you can use go to work and
31:52
get a job, a jailb But who's to blame for the attitudes that we're
31:59
talking about? My generation? We're who raised these kids, the ones that
32:07
have issued I'm not again, I'm not damning all of them, Okay,
32:09
I'm saying we're the ones to blame because we raised My wife and I chose
32:14
not to have kids. We're what's known as child free by choice. But
32:17
had we had a kid at the time when most people do, our kid
32:21
would have been somewhere in their mid to late twenties right now. And it
32:24
was my generation that created these issues with a lot of the gen zs that
32:29
we're talking about right now. And I really can't, for the life of
32:34
me figure out why, because I don't recall things being that bad in the
32:39
nineteen seventies, or our parents or upbringing me in so bad that we should
32:44
radically change the way that we were raised to do things. You know,
32:47
all I ever witnessed personally was my parents and my wife's parents, our respective
32:55
parents going to work. You know. My wife started her work career at
33:00
age eight by cleaning offices with her mother. I started working, making decent
33:05
money, just doing stuff around my neighborhood at about twelve. I paid cash
33:10
for my first car at age sixteen. I moved out at seventeen. I
33:15
didn't take out student loans because and my wife did an'ything. Because we worked
33:20
our way through college. Many of our friends did too. And I'm not
33:22
saying that bragging or saying, oh look at me. That's not my point.
33:24
I'm just saying that the two kids from a coal camp can do it,
33:30
that you grew up in South Hills, you can probably do it too,
33:34
So just throwing that out there. And and for parents again, a
33:39
lot of the attitudes come from the parents. Stop coddling your kids, you
33:43
know, take away the adderall replace it with dispatula or shovel. All right.
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are called three or four four four zero one one zero one texas. What
36:37
is generations Z? And why are we even now arbitrarily naming generations? I'm
36:43
the son of the greatest generation World War two, and since boomers follow that,
36:47
even born in nineteen sixty eight, I consider myself a boomer. I
36:51
have those traits from rising and who started Generation X, Y and now Z
36:57
tenth generation from most of my Mayflower ancestors. So that is X as a
37:00
Roman numeral ten. Why even name them? Uh? That came from I
37:07
guess well, I mean the baby boomers have always been around because obviously you
37:09
know what the name means. Then the people came back for World War two
37:13
and they started having babies. Okay, the Generation X actually came from a
37:17
book, and if I get them, I think it was Douglas Copeland that
37:22
wrote the book. And it was right around the time that I was coming
37:24
of age in college when the book Generation X came out. And that's just
37:28
that's just what we do. I mean, people just name, you know,
37:30
the generations. And again it's so easy to say, Okay, this
37:36
is what generation X is, this is what baby boom, and there are
37:39
variables to all. I mean, you know, Kate and her piece talked
37:42
about working in DC in that culture where there is there are i should say
37:47
a lot of people of her age that do value work, and there I'm
37:52
sure there were people in Baby boomers that did not. You know, so
37:57
get in trouble when you try to paint people. And I'm a fuilty as
38:00
anybody else, Um Texas, Dave, Please don't take this the wrong way.
38:07
But a question I have is with this younger generation being labeled is the
38:09
most oppressed. Could that have anything to do with many of them being coddled
38:14
constantly, never being told no, and being part of the everybody gets a
38:17
trophy crowd while growing up and then and then basically thrown out into the world
38:23
under this thing called adulthood and not knowing how to handle it all these new
38:28
responsibilities they were not prepared for. Again, somebody had to raise these kids,
38:32
Okay, somebody had to put them out there. So that kind of
38:36
goes along. I think with what I'm saying. TEXTA says we have the
38:39
lowest unemployment ever. Gen Z culture is working. They're just not doing the
38:44
jobs the rich want them. To do. They're self employed, door dash
38:46
grubhub five hundred dollars a day and not bad money. Can't make that at
38:51
a restaurant, you know, if you're working, more power to you,
38:54
don't. I mean, I just hope that you're just sound like John Bradette
38:58
to retire at radio here for a moment, but I hope that you are.
39:02
I hope that they're saving and planning when they can't grubub anymore or when
39:08
something else comes to replaces grubbub. You know, um, let's see parents
39:15
everywhere listen to these this is a texture. Listen to the wisdom on parenting
39:19
from the childless dude. Everyone knows that non parents have the best parent and
39:22
device what when we parents love it when they tell us what we're doing wrong?
39:29
Guilty as charge. I don't. But but as a non parent,
39:32
I also get a lot of crap for not having kids too, So you
39:36
know, I appreciate the text Uh, Dave, the whining to talk about
39:43
has a name now. It's BMW No, not the car, It's Belliate
39:47
moan wine, and it's an epidemic proportions, says a texture. Uh textures
39:54
is Dave. I'm a gen extra also, and what I can say in
39:58
regards to the vast different says in our generational millennials or gen Z is,
40:02
in fact, there are a lot more restrictions were put on us as adults
40:07
than there were on our parents raising us, such as if you spanked your
40:10
child and our generation you could go to jail, especially if you did it
40:14
in public. I think that meant not but but now, yeah, I
40:17
mean there's a lot of differences, you know, a whole lot of a
40:21
whole lot of differences. And again I just said, I just don't understand
40:25
what growing up in the nineteen seventy while it was so bad that we had
40:29
that my generation had to go drastically change the way they raise kids. Yes,
40:37
yes, as a texture, you and the and the lady are absolutely
40:42
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40:55
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started on the Fort Hill Bridge if you're trying to exit the city to get
46:15
on I sixty four. Some emergency repairs are happening. They were set scheduled
46:22
to start around nine this morning, and I'm presuming that that is happening and
46:25
that should last one about four or so this afternoon. Again, it's westbound
46:30
impacting the ramp getting on sixty four at the Ford Hill Bridge, So use
46:34
caution, be prepared and be prepared to set for a while, because you're
46:37
gonna set for a while to day. Again, it's supposed to between nine
46:39
and four. It's kind of an emergency type situation from one I understand,
46:43
so just be prepared for that. Texas gen Z has realized that your employer
46:50
doesn't care about you, your health and that you're easily replaceable. So why
46:53
break your body and mind for someone or a business that won't reciprocate and the
46:59
wages of these jobs, mobs that barely pay enough for the cost of living
47:01
isn't reciprocating. According to a Texter, again blanket statement. I appreciate the
47:07
texture, but it's kind of a blanket saving to say your employer doesn't care
47:10
about you. There are many employers that do not care about their employees,
47:15
but there are many also that do, so they can both be correct.
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I guess speaking of traffic as it was a couple of moments ago sort of
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people coming into West Virginia, Cat Skelton has a story posted on the website
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that you may want to check out, and I was reading earlier this morning,
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and it is about how the economic leaders, many of them, including
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the folks that Advantage Valley, are making plans for the people that are moving
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in and that plan to move in to the area. And I'm talking about
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specifically about the Canal Valley and surrounding areas right now. Yes, it is
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a real thing, folks, People people actually wanting to be here. What
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a novel concept. Advantage Valley is launching this regional housing needs assessments for up
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to ten counties here in the region, and some of those are in our
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listening area. Can all of course Putnham Cabal Mason Jackson, just to name
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a few, and as I said, there are a few others that are
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that are in there as well. You know, you got new Corps,
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Berkshire, Hathaway, the GreenPower Motors. All these companies are bringing people here.
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And housing is that a premium? In Putnham County where I live,
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there are townhouses and housing developments going up almost as quickly as they did in
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the time that Tay's Valley exploded in the nineteen nineties. I was listening to
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asked the experts with my buddy Larry Dawson. He and Coope did that prior
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to this show, and he was talking a little bit about that, about
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the about the growth of the Putnham County area and and now other areas as
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well. And housing is at a premium over their houses are going for unbelievable
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amounts of money. There is a house and I wan't mentioned where it is.
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There's a house that I am familiar with. Not mine, by the
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way, but there's a house that I'm familiar with that is on the market,
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just went on the market, and it is going for a ridiculous amount
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of money. Should never be they should never be asking what they're asking for
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that house, they're gonna get it. They're gonna get it, So more
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power and more power to them forgetting that. But anyway, there is a
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link to this online survey that was commissioned by Advantage Valley in their group,
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and it's posted as part of Cat Skelden story at wv metronews dot com.
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And I for one love seeing this kind of news and and go ahead and
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que the people saying thank you President Biden and the Infrastructure Act for causing all
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this, and and and there is a certain bit of truth to that.
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There really is. Although some of these companies, New Core among them,
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were headed this way anyway, But I digress. As I said, I
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for one, I am happy to see it because we desperately need people in
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West Virginia. And if we're at the point where we are bringing in so
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many people that housing is an issue, that's a good thing. You know.
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West Virginia is the oldest state in the nation, so the older people
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are like me, Many of you after today's show are saying it can't happen
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soon. Enough are dying off, so we gotta do something to bring people
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here. And we can't just rely on young people to just stay here.
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I mean we can't. I mean that we want them to stay, but
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we can't rely on that. We got to bring people here. That and
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these jobs and this sort of thing is all part of that. And again
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to the point that the folks had advantaged value who I'm going to effort to
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have on the show here real soon. These people have got a big task
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in front of them to try to figure out where to put these people that
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are moving here. So I say, let's bring it on. And of
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course with that comes to people saying we don't want people that are different from
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us coming here, and then you start getting too political ideology and we don't
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want California liberal bla blah blah blah. Folks. We ain't in a position
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to be arguing over things like that at this point. Let's just get them
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here, all right. A couple of quick texts for me, and let's
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don't forget this as a text of the record. Unemployment rate is not indicative
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of how many people aren't working, more so how many people are actually looking.
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Too many today are not looking just living off us taxpayers. Texter says,
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oh boo hoo, your employer doesn't care about you do these Winders think
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all of us before them have never dealt with any of this. Grow up
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as a text. All right, I gotta go coming up on the show
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