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- 0:00Host: I am honored today to introduce to you somebody who is
- 0:53not only a thought leader, but much more importantly, a
- 0:56practitioner. Dina Dwyer Owens, you may recognize her as faith
- 1:01brown on Undercover Boss, which was one of the most popular
- 1:04episodes from that reality TV show. She's also an author, and
- 1:08we're going to talk about some of her stuff today around her
- 1:11first book was called live rich and then values. Inc, her real
- 1:15life job as the co chair of the Dwyer Group, which is a billion
- 1:20dollar, well over a billion dollar organization that is in
- 1:24sort of the franchise space. Anyways, I'm excited and
- 1:28honored. Dina, welcome to the show.
- 1:30Dina Dwyer-Owens: Thank you. I'm the one who's honored here. I so
- 1:33appreciate the opportunity to share with all your listeners
- 1:36about what's most important to me at the Dwyer Group.
- 1:39Host: Yeah. So how did the Dwyer group get started?
- 1:42Dina Dwyer-Owens: Well, my father, Don Dwyer founded the
- 1:44company in 1981 and he had a vision for having a collection
- 1:48of Franchise Businesses basically serving the same
- 1:51customer base. And he was just so clear about his vision, his
- 1:55mission and his values. In fact, his mission statement still
- 1:58lives on today, and that's to teach our principles and
- 2:01systems. Franchising is all about systems of personal and
- 2:06business success, so that all people we touch live happier,
- 2:10more successful lives. So it's a great way to wake up every day.
- 2:13We're in the business of helping people have a better quality of
- 2:15life. We just happen to use franchising as our vehicle to do
- 2:19that. And when Don founded the company, he also had always been
- 2:22a student of leadership. Those listening are all students of
- 2:25leadership. Here. We all want to get better. And Don said, How do
- 2:29I really start this company off right with the right foundation?
- 2:32And what he had learned by studying great leaders was that
- 2:35they were always clear about their values, and that they put
- 2:38their values in writing, and then they put their values to
- 2:40work, and they worked hard to practice those values day in and
- 2:42day. In and day out. So when he launched the business in 81 he
- 2:45launched it with what he coined his code of values. And you
- 2:49know, looking back, there are probably more emotionally based
- 2:52beliefs, things like loyalty as meaning to our lives. We must
- 2:56count our blessings every day in every way, and one that I will
- 3:00never forget. And unfortunately, we lost Don in 1994 but one
- 3:04value as a kid growing up in his business was re earning our
- 3:08position every day in every way. So he always said, celebrate the
- 3:11victories of the past. Learn from the mistakes, but be better
- 3:13today than you were yesterday. So Don, again, had this vision,
- 3:17and he began to build the company with rainbow
- 3:20International, which was the flagship Company, which was back
- 3:23then, a carpet dying and cleaning company. So we could
- 3:25come into your house, if you had that good old tan shag carpeting
- 3:29and you wanted it to take care of some stains, we could make
- 3:32that a nice brown shag carpeting. That industry has
- 3:35changed. So rainbow today is a restoration and carpet cleaning
- 3:39company mostly focused on fire and fly restoration. And then he
- 3:42bought a company called Mr. Reuter, and it was actually a
- 3:44penny stock that he ended up doing a reverse merger on in 93
- 3:48and took the company public, started up some brands like Mr.
- 3:52Electric and air serve and Mr. Appliance. And after his
- 3:55passing, we bought a company called the glass doctor. And
- 3:58from there, the grounds guys and Mr. Handyman and Molly made and
- 4:02five star painting, and I'm probably forgetting some Window
- 4:04Genie. So today, our key business is being a values
- 4:08guided world leader of franchise brands that focus on enhancing,
- 4:13repairing and maintaining customers, homes and businesses.
- 4:16But my mind still to net it all out. It's about helping anybody
- 4:19we touch have a better quality of life. And again, franchising
- 4:22is the vehicle we happen to use to do that, whether it's
- 4:24touching our franchisees lives, our customers lives, our vendors
- 4:28lives, it's all about making a positive impact.
- 4:31Host: Yeah. So talk to me about "live rich". Okay, so you you
- 4:35use that a lot. Rich is actually an acronym.
- 4:38Dina Dwyer-Owens: So in 1993 I mentioned we took our company
- 4:41public, which was a big step for our founder and my father, and
- 4:45then, unfortunately, in 1994 he died of a sudden heart attack at
- 4:48the age of 60. So quite a young man. So one of the things that
- 4:52we knew as a leadership team was we had to keep this culture
- 4:55special. It's what attracted the strong franchisees we had. It's
- 4:58what attracted the great team that. We had, they were aligned
- 5:01in those values. So we knew we had to keep that foundation
- 5:03strong. We took Don's original values, his belief system, and
- 5:08we operationalized it. So that's where rich came from, and rich
- 5:12stands for respect, integrity, customer focus and having fun in
- 5:18the process. So when we say we live rich at the Dwyer group. Of
- 5:21course, we're in business to make money at the end of the
- 5:23day, but it's about how we treat people, and when we treat people
- 5:27with respect and dignity, we provide a quality of product or
- 5:30service profits. The profits are the applause We get. As my
- 5:33friend Ken Blanchard would say, I have to say we're guilty of,
- 5:36over the years, going down some bunny trails you get excited
- 5:40about other businesses that are franchisable or franchise, and
- 5:43yet our teams had to come back stay focused on what we're
- 5:45really great at, and that's these home service type
- 5:49businesses.
- 5:51Host: What do you think is the difference between the companies
- 5:54that successfully franchise and they start to successfully
- 5:57scale, and then the ones that can never really create that
- 6:02scale?
- 6:03Dina Dwyer-Owens: Yeah, a couple of things. You know, it has a
- 6:05lot to do with the people. People are a pedigree at the
- 6:10Dwyer group and at all franchise companies, because it takes the
- 6:14people to create the systems and then coach the franchisees to
- 6:18those systems. So at Dwyer, and again, a franchise, you're
- 6:21right. It's all about taking What's complicated about
- 6:25business and streamlining that into a system or process, then
- 6:29training to that system or process and making sure people
- 6:33are living up to it. And then, unfortunately, these are
- 6:35independent small business owners. Every franchisee is a
- 6:37small business owner and and even though we want them all to
- 6:41follow the systems perfectly, that's not going to happen.
- 6:43It'll never happen. We have 2800 franchises today. The majority
- 6:46of them do a beautiful job living by the system, and those
- 6:50are the ones realizing the most success. But unfortunately, some
- 6:54feel like they've got their own ideas, and you coach them up,
- 6:57and if you can't coach them up to follow the systems, you have
- 6:59to coach them out, because it's not fair to the other franchises
- 7:03who are committed to delivering the brand promise, which is
- 7:06really what the systems do. And if I talk just for a second
- 7:10about the distinction about the Dwyer group's core values, we
- 7:14would not be where we are today. We've grown at a pace of about
- 7:1750% the last three years, some of that through acquisition, but
- 7:21a lot of that through organic growth. And if it weren't for
- 7:24the alignment of our team around our core values, I don't think
- 7:29we could be here, because it's one thing to have great systems,
- 7:31but if you don't have great people that really believe in
- 7:34those systems and believe in delivering that value to the
- 7:37customer, you're right. That is who we're competing with. We're
- 7:39competing with who's going to solve the customer's problems,
- 7:42even around our values, we had to create a system for keeping
- 7:47those values front and center. We learned our lesson when Don
- 7:50Dwyer passed away in 94 he was the one who would hold us
- 7:53accountable to the original values. So he'd let you know if
- 7:56he felt you were loyal today or you weren't. You know the values
- 7:59weren't that black and white. Well, today, our values are very
- 8:02clear. One of our values is continuously striving to
- 8:05maximize internal and external customer loyalty. And the
- 8:09internal customers are our employee. The external customer
- 8:12is you, the person who's calling us to your home or business to
- 8:15take care of, keeping your again, your home or business
- 8:18comfortable. So the values really have been the foundation
- 8:22for our success, but had we not put a system in place, we
- 8:25wouldn't be where we are today. And I think people make this
- 8:28more complicated than they need to, but they're not in
- 8:30franchising. So, you know, as a franchise organization, we
- 8:33always think about system, systems, systems. If something's
- 8:35not working, it's probably because the system is not there
- 8:38or people haven't been trained to it. So we when we created the
- 8:42operationalized code of values, we knew as a leadership team,
- 8:45number one, we couldn't just throw them in the face of our
- 8:48employees and say, hey, look, starting today, these are going
- 8:50to be the new values we're going to follow. Instead, we said to
- 8:53our employees, and we didn't realize we were being so smart
- 8:56when we gamified our values, but we basically said to our
- 8:58employees, we think this is going to be the solution to
- 9:01keeping our culture special. We handed them handed them a
- 9:03laminated card. On one side of the card had the original
- 9:05values, Don's values. On the other side of the card had the
- 9:08new operationalized values, the rich values. And we said, we
- 9:11need your help for the next 90 days. We want you guys to study
- 9:14these values, and in order to show our commitment to you, we
- 9:18want you to give us feedback anytime you catch a management
- 9:21team member violating a value, we want you to give us a beep.
- 9:24And as silly as that sounds, it worked. So the employees really
- 9:29studied these values, much more than I would have ever imagined,
- 9:32because they loved the idea of catching their bosses doing
- 9:35something wrong. So if you could imagine the Road Runner running
- 9:38through our building for 90 days, that's what it sounded
- 9:41like around here. We were being beeped. It's just a verbal beep,
- 9:43beeped right and left, because we were so bad at the new
- 9:47operationalized values. So once we played that game, we brought
- 9:50the team back together, we asked them what they thought, and they
- 9:53loved it, and they added a value that I think is the toughest one
- 9:55we have today. But we said, okay, so going forward, because
- 9:58this, this. Not die. When the CEO of the company dies or the
- 10:03leadership team dies in this company, it's got to be
- 10:05sustainable. So let's create a system. We said, anytime we have
- 10:09the meeting of three or more of our team members or our
- 10:11franchisees, we're simply going to bring the values front and
- 10:15center in that meeting. So before we talk about anything
- 10:18else, we're going to either review all 15 values in our
- 10:21case, because they're really behavioral statements, if you
- 10:24want to think about them being that black and white, and
- 10:27sometimes we might just highlight a value that we're not
- 10:28so good at. Maybe we've gotten some feedback from a customer
- 10:31that we're not doing a great job responding in a timely fashion,
- 10:33for example, or maybe we highlight a team member who's
- 10:36gotten exceptional feedback. The bottom line is, at the beginning
- 10:39of every meeting of three or more, we should take a deep
- 10:41breath and reflect on our values. And most of our team
- 10:44members, not all of them, because we're a fast growing
- 10:47company, many of our team members can do that by heart
- 10:49with heart, as we call it. It's not just a memorization act. We
- 10:53want people to internalize the values so that when a problem
- 10:56occurs, what happens in your mind is you could write to a
- 10:59value, or maybe a number of values that can be the solution
- 11:01to the problem. We do it out loud, and sometimes, again,
- 11:04we'll go over all 15 values. Sometimes we'll just highlight
- 11:06the key areas, showing respect for all people, acting with
- 11:09integrity and all dealings and serving customers with
- 11:11enthusiasm. It just kind of depends on how many meetings
- 11:13you're in in a day. Sometimes it seems, oh, all 15 again. Can we?
- 11:17Can we just focus on one that we know we need to get better at?
- 11:19There's one that's very topical. You know, if you think about,
- 11:22we're having a meeting about customer service, but we want to
- 11:24talk about one of the values that has to do with customer
- 11:26loyalty.
- 11:27Host: Okay, so let me play the devil's advocate here, right?
- 11:30Like we don't have the extra two minutes to spare to do this.
- 11:35What do you say to that?
- 11:36Dina Dwyer-Owens: This is what I say to the leader. You don't
- 11:38want to hear the whining. This is who we are. This is the only
- 11:42way that we're going to keep these values front and center,
- 11:44and the minute we start getting lazy about it, I liken it to
- 11:48people who do a good job of brushing their teeth, but they
- 11:50don't floss their teeth very often. And what happens when you
- 11:53don't floss your teeth very often? You get rot, you get
- 11:56decay. And what happens when you start having decay? It not only
- 11:58affects your teeth, it affects major organs in your body. And
- 12:02in my mind, it's up to the leader to stay firm on the fact
- 12:06that you've got to keep the values front and center, because
- 12:09the minute you quit flossing, you're going to get decay. You
- 12:13start getting decay. Organs start shutting down. Your body
- 12:15is not going to be at optimal health. It's the same thing with
- 12:18a franchise organization or any organization, the values have to
- 12:21remain front and center, and the minute we start getting lazy
- 12:24about it, we lose an opportunity to really be great when properly
- 12:27practice values inflict pain. They make some employees feel
- 12:31like outcast. They can limit an organization's strategic and
- 12:34operational freedom and constrain the behavior of its
- 12:37people. They leave executives open to heavy criticism for even
- 12:40minor violations, and they demand constant vigilance. So
- 12:43this value step is not for everybody. It's really not for
- 12:47the faint of heart. I have a quick example for you. I was
- 12:50just at a I'm on the board of lead like Jesus, which is a Ken
- 12:53Blanchard nonprofit organization. It's about
- 12:55teaching that Jesus is the greatest leadership role model
- 12:57of all times. It's not about being a believer in Jesus. You
- 13:00know that then he was a prophet for some but it's about the fact
- 13:03that he was such a great leader and and the founder and owner of
- 13:07all the Omni resorts, they shared a story about his values,
- 13:11and they said, here's the guy who goes up to his values, and
- 13:13the numbers is not what drives it, it's it's what's right,
- 13:17doing the right thing. So, you know, they have these terrible
- 13:19adult stations on TVs in these hotel rooms. They're poison.
- 13:24They're poison. And this guy was in one of his hotel rooms one
- 13:27night and realized they had these adult channels. You know,
- 13:30he doesn't know every single working of the the hotel can't
- 13:33possibly 30,000 employees a big, big operation. And he says, What
- 13:38are we doing here? Why do we have this? He got with his
- 13:40management team, and they disconnected all of the adult
- 13:43channels. Now that takes courage, but that's following
- 13:47your values all the way through. You know what? As a customer,
- 13:50guess where I'm going to stay? Because I respect that. He's got
- 13:53the courage to make that kind of decision, losing millions a year
- 13:56but not having the adult stations. But he's not really
- 13:58losing millions a year because he's living up to his values.
- 14:00What's most important? Because when you do that, it translates
- 14:03into financial results. We're proof of it. At the Dwyer group,
- 14:06we had a private equity partner who took us private in 2003 sold
- 14:10us in 2010 Three years later, came knocking on our door to buy
- 14:14us back, because they were having a hard time putting a new
- 14:17$1.5 billion fund they had raised to work with great
- 14:20companies, and they said, What we love about Dwyer is your
- 14:23culture, the mission that you have the leadership team. And of
- 14:27course, the growth opportunities are huge. Every franchisee has
- 14:29an opportunity to grow their business. My attitude, and I say
- 14:32this in the book a couple of times, the rewards are really
- 14:35too great to ignore. And is it easy? No, it's not easy, getting
- 14:39clarity about your vows. It's not easy making sure that you're
- 14:42leading with them, because we are human beings, and we fail
- 14:45every day. You know, every day, probably somebody could beat me
- 14:48for not living up to the value, to the degree that I should be,
- 14:51but I'm doing my best. I'm striving to live those and
- 14:54that's all we can ask of our team. And we're surrounded by
- 14:57people at Dwyer who work hard to live up to those values. Is
- 15:00every day our values have surrounded us with people that
- 15:03are like minded, that really care about that customer
- 15:05experience that you talked about early on. Without the values,
- 15:08though, we wouldn't be able to do this, I'm certain.
- 15:11Host: Yeah, Dina, I do have one other question that I want to
- 15:13make sure to ask you. But before I do that, where do you want
- 15:16people to go to connect with you? You know, learn more.
- 15:21Dina Dwyer-Owens: Yeah, they can simply go to Dina Dwyer
- 15:23owens.com and it's D, W, y, E, R, owens.com.
- 15:29Host: Okay, so here's our last question. Let's say there's
- 15:32somebody out there listening, and maybe they run a franchise,
- 15:36maybe they have a small business, maybe they are mid
- 15:40level manager at some large public organization, and they're
- 15:43not, they don't have ownership, but they have leadership to the
- 15:47leader that's out there listening right now. What action
- 15:51would you encourage them to immediately take?
- 15:54Dina Dwyer-Owens: The first action would be is discover if
- 15:56you do have clearly written values, because most of the
- 15:59time, organizations have done a lot of work, whether, again,
- 16:02it's a church or a for profit business, they've done a lot of
- 16:05work thinking about what's important to them. So I would
- 16:08say, dig those up. Dig those values up. Get with key leaders
- 16:11in that organization. It could even be a family. It could be a
- 16:14parent who's listening and sit down and talk about those,
- 16:17revisit them, polish them up, and again, download the Create
- 16:21your culture workbook, or invest in values. Inc, there's some
- 16:24very clear directions at the back of values. Inc, too, on how
- 16:27to then take that to the next level, so that you truly can
- 16:30create a system around keeping your values front and center so
- 16:33you don't forget who you are and what you want to stand for in
- 16:37this world.
- 16:37Host: Well, Dina, thank you so much for your time today, and we
- 16:40appreciate you taking the time.
- 16:42Dina Dwyer-Owens: Thank you for the opportunity, and I hope that
- 16:51the listeners will join this movement. We really can change
- 17:03the world one person at a time.