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1-21-26 Hour 1 - Lakers fans broke Vic/Everyone believes in Stiddy/Use ALL your offensive pieces · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 1: This is Mosher, Lombardy and Caine on demand. Listen live
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  Speaker 2: The Miserable Cry Baby LA Lakers coming to town to
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  Speaker 2: play your Denver Nuggets tonight with that whining baby Luca
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  Speaker 2: and that bigger whining baby Lebron.
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  Speaker 3: Four seconds left to go in Denver and there is
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  Speaker 3: the horn. The Denver Nuggets lose two games in a
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  Speaker 3: row at Hall, this time tonight to the LA Lakers.
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  Speaker 3: Final tonight from Denver, Los Angeles one fifteen, Denver one
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  Speaker 3: to seven.
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  Speaker 4: Nuggets lose to the Lakers yesterday in uh, it was
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  Speaker 4: not game because you had the start nine threes made
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  Speaker 4: in the first quarter, you had that wild sequins at
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  Speaker 4: the end of the first half that was beautiful, that
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  Speaker 4: gets you a fourteen point lead, and then it just
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  Speaker 4: kind of felt like the missing joker factor and being
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  Speaker 4: able to close the game against a good team with
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  Speaker 4: good players just kind of left you late night game,
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  Speaker 4: just couldn't make shots and couldn't get enough stops, which
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  Speaker 4: I think, you know, it's a bummer because you had
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  Speaker 4: control of it, but once it felt like the Lakers
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  Speaker 4: took advantage and took the momentum in the fourth. You
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  Speaker 4: just couldn't get it back from him.
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  Speaker 2: Fellas. You know, it's been a cute little story with
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  Speaker 2: all these injuries and watching the way the Nuggets have responded,
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  Speaker 2: winning games in Philly, Boston, that Toronto win, then coming
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  Speaker 2: home and continuing to win a bit catches.
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  Speaker 5: Up to you.
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  Speaker 2: It's not so cute anymore. Yeah, it's In fact, last night,
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  Speaker 2: the cuteness wore off pretty quickly, saying yourself, yeah, please help,
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  Speaker 2: please please help. I mean they don't have a center.
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  Speaker 2: They got out rebounded fifty one to thirty one. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's the second straight game in which they've been out
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  Speaker 2: rebounded by twenty or more.
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  Speaker 4: And it's not anything you can You're tiny, like, you
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  Speaker 4: don't have any big on the floor. There's not gonna do.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not blending these guys. It's me going against Tastings
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  Speaker 2: and Columbus. I'm not going to get a rebound. It's
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  Speaker 2: not gonna happen.
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  Speaker 5: It just feels to me like this is what it's
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  Speaker 5: supposed to look like without the bigs in the middle
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  Speaker 5: and whatnot, and guys in and out of the lineup
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  Speaker 5: and so on and so forth, that eventually it's going
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  Speaker 5: to catch up to you. The adrenaline. Put it this way,
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  Speaker 5: You're playing whatever sport it is, right you. Let's say
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  Speaker 5: you terror something, but you keep playing because you're playing
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  Speaker 5: on adrenaline. That's how that nugget stretch has been since
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  Speaker 5: these guys have been out. Yeah, and now you're back
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  Speaker 5: to the locker room and it's like, oh god, I'm
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  Speaker 5: really hurt and now oh gosh, you know, I mean,
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  Speaker 5: we're overwhelmed in the second half, can't make a shot again,
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  Speaker 5: that kind of thing. That's it feels vic like exactly
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  Speaker 5: what you're talking about, Like the the adrenalines worn off,
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  Speaker 5: and now this is who you are. By the way,
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  Speaker 5: I was so excited at Jamal's almost three quarter court shot.
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  Speaker 5: You guys even put Brett's tweet on Altitude Television.
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  Speaker 2: I saw that.
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  Speaker 5: You saw that. Huh Berg goes, well, look they got
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  Speaker 5: Brett's tweet. I'm like, yeah, good for him.
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  Speaker 2: Why doesn't it come up with something really cool?
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  Speaker 4: It's because I send out good tweets.
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  Speaker 5: MO, So I don't have time to waste. That's not
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  Speaker 5: my thing. I don't have I don't time for that crap.
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  Speaker 5: But it was disappointing only because watching the Lakers smile
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  Speaker 5: and watching Lebron be happy that that was not cool.
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  Speaker 2: Well, two things happened last night that left me crestfallen,
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  Speaker 2: humbled me, and frankly, I'm at that point now where
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  Speaker 2: I don't even have room to argue. I don't have
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  Speaker 2: room to complain. I'm a beaten man. Look at me, mos,
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  Speaker 2: look at my face. It's a beaten face.
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  Speaker 5: I saw your face yesterday that you sent That was
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  Speaker 5: really weird.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly how I felt. Yep, let me tell
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  Speaker 2: you the two things that have beaten me down that arena.
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  Speaker 2: And I know there's nothing I can do about it.
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  Speaker 2: I've tried, We've all tried. It's sort of like the
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  Speaker 2: Lakers lore. It happens in many arenas, but it happens
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  Speaker 2: prominently in Denver. When a bucket is scored and you
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  Speaker 2: can't tell who scored it based on the applause and
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  Speaker 2: the fanfare. That is so humbling and so tough for
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  Speaker 2: me to accept as a Denver native. It's so hard
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  Speaker 2: as a hater of the Lakers for my entire lifetime.
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  Speaker 2: It's so difficult for me to look in the mirror
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  Speaker 2: and say, yeah, I I don't have a react. I've
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  Speaker 2: been beaten. You won, Laker fan, you beat me. You
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  Speaker 2: were everywhere yesterday, everywhere all over that arena. You came in.
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  Speaker 2: You won't shut uh. You think you owned the place.
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  Speaker 2: You cheered loudly. There was a let's go Lakers chant.
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  Speaker 2: I I don't know what else to do. I can't
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  Speaker 2: beat that.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it's it's very simple. Here's what you do. You
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  Speaker 4: get Joker back in the lineup and you beat them
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  Speaker 4: repeatedly again. I mean, that's that's the counter to this.
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  Speaker 4: I got another problem though, to your point, just real quick,
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  Speaker 4: to your point earlier, this was fun to watch this
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  Speaker 4: rag tag team pull it together and keep things afloat.
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  Speaker 4: Let's never do this again.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah it's not funny. Yeah it's fun. Let's fun do
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  Speaker 2: that again. Now before we game. We're basically assaulting David
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  Speaker 2: Adelman question after question, How soon? When? When? What day? Who? When?
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  Speaker 5: When?
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  Speaker 2: Are they ready? I will give you the full update.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, each player, all four of them that
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  Speaker 2: are out. My old Twitter feed has been invaded by
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  Speaker 2: Lakers fans rubbing it in because at halftime I said something, oh, boy,
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  Speaker 2: here we go. This is another problem. Guys. This is
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  Speaker 2: not a joke. I am not joking here. This is
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  Speaker 2: not me being dramatic. This is not hyperbolic. I want
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  Speaker 2: everyone listening to this understand. This is a real thing.
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  Speaker 2: You're gonna ask Terry about this. My wife, so early
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  Speaker 2: in the game yesterday, when Jamal starts going off right
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  Speaker 2: and he's going off yeah, we have a family chat.
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  Speaker 2: In that chat is my daughter's boyfriend who soon to
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  Speaker 2: be fiance. They're gonna get married. They live in LA.
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  Speaker 2: My daughter is a Nuggets fan, huge, he grew up
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  Speaker 2: in LA. He's a Lakers fan. Why allowed that relationship
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  Speaker 2: to happen is beyond me.
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  Speaker 5: We've already been questioning this about three years, I know.
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  Speaker 2: But listen to what happened last night. Listen to me,
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  Speaker 2: listen to this. So about midway through the second quarter yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: he texts the family chat and says, Vic, why is
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  Speaker 2: Jamal Murray always flopping? I taxed it back, I said,
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  Speaker 2: are you an insane person? Do you know who you're
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  Speaker 2: Do you know who plays for your team? Do you
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  Speaker 2: know you have a guy who cries after every mad bucket,
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  Speaker 2: whether it goes in out? What you know who you have.
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  Speaker 2: So at the end of the first half, when Jamal
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  Speaker 2: made that that shot, I went into that group chat
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  Speaker 2: and I talked so much trash on him and the Lakers,
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  Speaker 2: and by the end of the night he was hammering
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  Speaker 2: just message after the message, and no matter what I said, well,
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  Speaker 2: you beat a team missing four guys, four key players.
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  Speaker 2: I'm at that point now. I wonder if I if
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  Speaker 2: I allow this wedding to happen.
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  Speaker 5: I wouldn't. And I don't know how else to tell
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  Speaker 5: you that. I've been telling you for three years. But
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  Speaker 5: how do I go about it. I've been telling you
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  Speaker 5: for three years he's bad news. I do I VIC.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know what you do other than disowner if
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  Speaker 5: she doesn't dump him. I mean, I think that's the
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  Speaker 5: way to go. Not only that, but I've seen I've
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  Speaker 5: seen her wearing Lakers sweatshirts that belong to him, wearing
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  Speaker 5: Dodger stuff that belonged to him. I don't know what
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  Speaker 5: to do about this. I'm on the outside looking in. Okay,
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  Speaker 5: do you feel sorry for me? You know, as your friend,
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  Speaker 5: as your friend and your brother, I can only give
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  Speaker 5: you advice. I can lead you there, But then you
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  Speaker 5: have to take the next step, and that is alexis
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  Speaker 5: you are no longer a member of the family.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: If this guy, hold on, hold on, I got it.
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  Speaker 4: But I got it. This is a threat that you
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  Speaker 4: can use, at least to keep him in check. Yeah, hey,
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  Speaker 4: for your own wedding.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know what's funny about that. Good the wedding
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  Speaker 2: planning has begun already, and we're looking at venues and
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  Speaker 2: all that stuff, and you know they're talking to me about,
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, you guys know how expensive it is
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  Speaker 2: to throw a wedding these days.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what you do? You give him ten
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  Speaker 5: g's and say, go to Vegas ten g's. No, no, no,
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  Speaker 5: just just give him some bread and go to Vegas.
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  Speaker 2: Destination.
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  Speaker 5: What we did, yes, cheaper, cheap, cheap.
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  Speaker 2: The only problem with the destination wedding is it puts
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  Speaker 2: a lot of pressure on the people who want to
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  Speaker 2: be there.
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  Speaker 4: Wasn't my problem.
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  Speaker 5: We took it.
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  Speaker 4: We took care well, we took care of the mains,
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  Speaker 4: the mains, and then we said, anybody else who wants
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  Speaker 4: to come, you're invited. If not, we totally get it.
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  Speaker 5: Ye percent.
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  Speaker 2: But what I'm thinking about doing is just completely turning
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  Speaker 2: the faucet off until he.
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  Speaker 4: I I think so courthouse.
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  Speaker 5: I went to the courthouse in front of you know,
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  Speaker 5: Jennifer behind a glass window. Okay, it's the same. Hey,
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  Speaker 5: look look it's the same.
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  Speaker 2: I know, I know, but it's not the same for I.
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  Speaker 2: I'm really thinking. I'm not joking when I say this.
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  Speaker 2: I texted my wife last night. Until he changes his loyalties,
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  Speaker 2: his stripes, you get nothing.
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  Speaker 4: See here's the pre He doesn't get to pick the
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  Speaker 4: gelato card.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, until you're sleeping.
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  Speaker 3: I got to pick the gelato cart.
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  Speaker 5: Yea if you're filthy until yeah, until you're until you're
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  Speaker 5: sleeping and just thinking and just thinking and thinking and
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  Speaker 5: thinking and thinking. Just realize, del hole, you're gonna to
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  Speaker 5: deal with this for the rest of your life.
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  Speaker 2: It's exactly what I told you. I can't do this.
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  Speaker 2: I can't moving forward because eventually the Joker era will
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  Speaker 2: end and every game for me is a big game
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  Speaker 2: against that team. And I get it. Last night almost
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  Speaker 2: doesn't count. It doesn't matter. It does in the grand
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  Speaker 2: scheme of things. The Nuggets are missing four key players,
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  Speaker 2: two centers. I get it. You know what, you guys
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  Speaker 2: fear the Lakers. I'm on bridside. The Lakers are gonna
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  Speaker 2: get tattooed.
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  Speaker 6: I do not.
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  Speaker 5: I do not fear the Lakers.
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  Speaker 2: Dude, they are not good. Trust me. They won last
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  Speaker 2: night because they took advantage of a smaller team that
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  Speaker 2: doesn't have anybody available. But when it comes push comes
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  Speaker 2: to shove, they are gonna get you Lebron guys. And
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  Speaker 2: I know he put points up, but you saw it.
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  Speaker 5: He is father father times.
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  Speaker 4: I was just going to tell you for the first time,
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  Speaker 4: I think in his career, you saw it, right, You see,
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  Speaker 4: just it's a little bit slower.
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  Speaker 2: Like losing the ball, fumbling the ball.
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  Speaker 5: Old.
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  Speaker 2: What we do is we do things and our brain's like,
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  Speaker 2: how why did that just happen? Like the ball just
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  Speaker 2: left my hands for some reason. He did that on
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  Speaker 2: a couple occasions, and I'm like, okay.
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  Speaker 4: Now he's fifty years old, so I'm like, yeah, whatever,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, he's gonna have race. And it's still remarkable
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  Speaker 4: that he puts up twenty three points a game or
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  Speaker 4: whatever he does right now. But you can see again
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  Speaker 4: for the first time, I think you can kind of
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  Speaker 4: see a little bit like everything's a tick slower than
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  Speaker 4: it used to be.
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  Speaker 2: All right, so I could handle the family problems. We
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  Speaker 2: all have our own family issues. I'll handle that just financially,
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  Speaker 2: I'll turn it all off. That's the best way to
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  Speaker 2: perfectly perfect. How do I handle what happens at Ballerina
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  Speaker 2: every time that team comes to.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know what to do, vic, I just I don't.
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  Speaker 2: What do I do? Guys, if you had been there
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  Speaker 2: last night? Motion, I know you feel like if you
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  Speaker 2: had been there last night, you would have lost it.
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  Speaker 5: I and I do on occasion. You know, in our
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  Speaker 5: building the other day, there's a lot of Caps fans.
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  Speaker 5: There a lot of Caps fans, and you know, all
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  Speaker 5: these teams that have red uniforms and the rockets red.
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, okay, well you're doing it. Caroline is doing it.
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  Speaker 5: Cow all these teams with red they do that, right.
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, you're not original. Your dorks is what you are.
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  Speaker 5: You're frigging on. You're friggin friggin' friggin' dorks. Number two.
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  Speaker 5: They do the oh say does that? You know? And
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  Speaker 5: I'm like it sounds like I'm at a Caps home game.
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  Speaker 5: Same with the Dallas Stars. All these fans that come
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  Speaker 5: in and they muck up our anthe I want to
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  Speaker 5: I just want to fight.
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  Speaker 4: The Caps are loud, those fans are loud. Now is
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  Speaker 4: they're like shockingly when they scored to tie it up
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  Speaker 4: one to one, well they also shockingly got their asses
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  Speaker 4: got it? Uh, just real quick, because I don't know
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  Speaker 4: if he guess I don't think you got it. I
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  Speaker 4: don't know if he has discussed like.
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  Speaker 5: Your butts, butts, terrible butts, butts, butts, butts.
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  Speaker 4: It's a most like it's a really important thing.
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  Speaker 3: Though.
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  Speaker 4: Lebron is wearing a patch that honors Lebron what you
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  Speaker 4: have seen this on his jersey.
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  Speaker 5: He's got a twenty three patch.
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  Speaker 4: He's got a patch that has twenty three on it
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  Speaker 4: for the years that he's played in the league, that
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  Speaker 4: was given to him by the NBA. And he's wearing
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  Speaker 4: a patch that honors himself. And I'm just trying to
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  Speaker 4: imagine Joker wearing a patch that honored himself and if
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  Speaker 4: that would ever take place, Dude.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna I just I just want you guys to know,
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  Speaker 2: for the next two hours and forty eight minutes, I'm
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  Speaker 2: a I'm a broken man. I'm a last night broke me.
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  Speaker 2: From a personal standpoint, From a Denver standpoint, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know what to do about this Lakers thing in Denver.
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  Speaker 2: I I interviewed before the game, maybe twenty Lakers fans.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of them listen to this show. They're nice people. Nice.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I had a nice conversation. This guy was going, Hey,
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  Speaker 2: west Side, north Side, all that they're from here, they
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  Speaker 2: live here. I said, how are you a Lakers fan?
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  Speaker 6: How?
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  Speaker 2: How?
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  Speaker 5: How?
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  Speaker 2: Because all my dad's from l A, Okay, so what how?
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  Speaker 2: The Nuggets just won a championship in twenty three? What
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  Speaker 2: are you doing? What?
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  Speaker 5: What?
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  Speaker 2: What's this spell that's been cast? How do we I'm broken.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what to do. It's it's never gonna
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  Speaker 2: be be. I can't beat quickly.
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  Speaker 5: You guys beat me, you beat me.
• 14:45
  Speaker 4: A texture says this is from Jeffrey Vick. Cruise ship wedding.
• 14:49
  Speaker 4: People go missing on cruises all the.
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  Speaker 2: Time, all the time.
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  Speaker 5: They do.
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  Speaker 2: Hey listen.
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  Speaker 4: The Avs host Anaheim tonight at coverage will be live
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  Speaker 4: Ramos law.
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  Speaker 2: I did.
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  Speaker 4: What I tend to do at times, which is fall
• 15:12
  Speaker 4: down these rabbit holes on YouTube. But in this case,
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  Speaker 4: it was about Jared Stidham because I wanted to see
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  Speaker 4: what national people were saying about this situation, because us
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  Speaker 4: here in Denver, we have this sort of thought process that, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: losing Nick's hurts, but I don't think it hurts as
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  Speaker 4: bad as most would think. So I was like, what
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  Speaker 4: do people around the country think about this? Shockingly, they
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  Speaker 4: kind of agree, we'll get to it next. So I
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  Speaker 4: was fully expecting when I was sort of perusing around
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  Speaker 4: some different takes across TV shows, radio shows, articles yesterday
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  Speaker 4: about Stidham getting the start for the Broncos what that
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  Speaker 4: means for the Broncos chances. I just kind of thought
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  Speaker 4: that people would say, hey, backup quarterback, it's gonna be
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  Speaker 4: really tough for the Broncos to find a way to
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  Speaker 4: win this game, and it's going to be a huge impact.
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  Speaker 4: And what I kind of found is most people sound
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  Speaker 4: like Broncos fans, which is this it hurts, it's not
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  Speaker 4: as bad as most other situations would be. And let
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  Speaker 4: me give you an example. There was another team that
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  Speaker 4: was red hot, playing really well with really good quarterback
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  Speaker 4: play that lost their quarterback and then signed Philip Rivers.
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  Speaker 4: That was their answer to the situation. The Broncos don't
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  Speaker 4: have that, Like there is a confidence and I'm trying
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  Speaker 4: to figure out what this is. I'm gonna play this
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  Speaker 4: again post game from the weekend.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah he's ready, He's ready. I said this at the
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  Speaker 5: beginning of the season.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like I've got a two that's capable of
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  Speaker 2: starting for a handful of number of teams.
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  Speaker 5: And I know he feels the same way. Watch out,
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  Speaker 5: watch watch just watch.
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  Speaker 4: When he says he's ready, I'm almost wondering, can I
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  Speaker 4: translate that over to Sean Payton saying yeah, I'm ready.
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: Just watch Is it confidence in himself that Sean Payton
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: has in this or is it confidence in his backup quarterback? Again,
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: the situation you're presented here is so unique, and for
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: all the examples that people bring up about in the past.
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: When we were discussing, you know, we put the video
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: out on socials. Got a lot of reaction about Stidham
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: if he wins the next two games, is there a
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: quarterback battle in camp next year? Blah blah blah, And
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: a lot of people mos would point to, Oh, yeah,
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: you don't think there is. Ask Drew Bledsoe or ask
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: Alex Smith, or ask you know whoever handful of people.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: Nobody came in with one hundred and twenty potential minutes
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: left in the season. Okay, like those guys took over
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: with games to prove themselves, not like sixty minutes AFC
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: Championship game and potentially another sixty in the Super Bowl.
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: It's a much more condensed time frame to try and
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: prove yourself to the masses. But if you can pull
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: it off, and I think he can, because what is
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: asked of Jert Stidham here is not to go out
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: and win the broncos a ballgame. It's can you just
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: manage the game properly.
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: I I'm very optimistic that he's gonna win the whole thing.
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: In fact, I think that he's gonna He's next two games,
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: all right, I was told yesterday by somebody we talked
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: about on the program yesterday there's gonna be six total
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: combined touchdown passes from said quarterback in the next two games,
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: the AFS Title Game and the Super Bowl.
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: So what do you actually think, Oh, I think that's
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: the truth. What do you actually think.
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: I think it's the truth.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: You're talking to my guy.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: It's wrong, Tom, What do you actually think?
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: If I tell you what I actually think, I get
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: called a negative Nelly, no offense Nelly.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Well you know why it's so striking coming from you
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: that all season long you played this bit on this show,
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: this ridiculous. Oh they're gonna win by one hundred and
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: oh look at this. And every week we did the
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: Broncos predictions and because they were gonna make time win,
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: let me finish. And Moser played.
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: The hey everybody.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: You know he played that role, you know the role
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Brett you did. Differ, I played the hey everybody. Yeah,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: And something suddenly I understand that it's a big deal.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Your tail is tucked so far between your legs right now,
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: it's hard to stomach. It's it's it's weird. It's really weird.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: You make it sound as if they shouldn't even lace
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: them up and play.
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: No, not at all. I just think that it it's
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: very very rare for a backup quarterback to win a
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: in the postseason, b a conference title game, see a
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: super Bowl. It's rare. Yes, it's happened. But when I
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: look at, Well, it doesn't happen all that often. No,
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: But when I look at at who's done it, Terry
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: Bradshaw did it when he was a young Cat, and
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: he's a Hall of famer. Jim Plunkett did it. Nobody
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: listening probably even knows who the hell that is. Kirk
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: Warner did it. He's a Hall of famer. Tom Brady
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: did it. He's a Hall of famer.
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: Did what exactly? What do you mean one as a backup?
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the one in the postseason, won the AFC title game,
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: won a Super Bowl. Yeah, I mean Foles did it too.
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: Nick Foles did it. He's not a Hall of famer,
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: you know.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: I guess the point about this, though, is, you know what,
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: when you're talking about a one game sample the most
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: one game, and that's what this is against this Patriots team.
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: We got audio from Scott Zolak, we got audio from
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: Kurt Warner that and.
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: I'm very, very interested in hearing all of this. But
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: when I look at Nick Foles again, I want to
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: go back to that situation. Uh, it was. It was
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: incredibly special, but he'd already been not only a starter
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: at some point in you know, in Philly, in the
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: second year. I mean he played thirte He'd already had
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: a lot a lot of games. Nick Foles, he'd had
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: a lot of games under his belt. Yes, or let
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: me let me cut it up twenty he.
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: Started, He was a starter before.
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: Yes, that he played. I mean he already had almost
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: fifty start fifty starts in the league before he came
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: in and actually won in the postseason with the Iggles. Well,
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: here's so the circumstances are. I mean, you're right, but
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: they're different. So it just I'm just I'm cautiously optimistic,
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: and maybe you know what I'm overly cautious. This is
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: I admitted.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: This is what I'm trying to tell you. Though, when
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: it comes down to what impact do I think this
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: has on the game? I heard multiple people and I
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: read an article with betting sharps and they said this
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: about this game. The line opened after the Broncos won
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: as one and a half point favorites against New England.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: That immediately flipped to five and a half point dogs
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: against New England when they found out that Bonnix could
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: not play.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: That's a that's a touchdown flip.
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: The Sharps said this before the season started they go
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: through these evaluations, starter to the backup quarterback, how many
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: points is that worth? Right after the preseason ends, the
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: number from Bonnicks to Jared Stidham at that time was three.
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: They gave it a three point swing. Those same guys
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: now said they think it's close four and they don't
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: know why this has flipped a full seven points. That's
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: where I'm at. Obviously, I told you this. If I
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: had to put my mortgage down on a team to
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: win a game, it's the Patriots. I think they win this,
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: but I don't think it's as steep as it's been
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: given so far.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: I'll make it very very easy for you. It's sports.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Things that don't make sense happen in sports. Rationale is
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: thrown out the window. You could take a team of
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: I don't know third stringers go to Philly and win
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: a game like the Nuggets.
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: Did.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Things happen that you can't justify. There's no reason, There's
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: just no way to explain it. And I think what
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: most Bronco fans are pinning their hopes on is that
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: this little used backup who we haven't seen throw a
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: ball in a regular season game in two years, can
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: suddenly show up and do enough to win in the game,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: not just not be a star. You don't need that
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: do enough and that everybody else does a little bit more. Yeah,
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: would you rather have bow Nicks in this game?
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: Yes?
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Or no? Of course yes you would. Doesn't mean the
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: games is over and it shouldn't be played. Of course not.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Let's see what happens. Most agreed.
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: Agreed.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: When you're you're going at you're jumping to conclusions.
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: You just went to such an extreme. He goes, He
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: goes like this, I'm let me reiterate in case people
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: missed it. Would we rather have bow Nicks? Yes, doesn't
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: mean that we shouldn't even play this dang football game. Well, no, no,
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: you're you're right, Vic, but you you just went to
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: the ultimate extreme. I mean, I'm just I'm just I'm
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: telling you. I guess I'm trying to be the voice
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: of reason here. I'm trying to say, look it's going
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: I'm just gonna try to tell people, it's gonna be
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: very difficult. It can happen. It can happen. Let me massage,
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: you're please massage, Yes, I need I need it. I
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: just get in there and just let me get in there. Yeah,
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: get my soft tissues going. Baby.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: You watched the game in Foxborough? All right, you watched
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: the game. Is it possible to play the quarterback position
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: any worse than what CJ. Straud played it that afternoon?
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: Really difficult?
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: No?
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: I mean seriously, is it possible? Can I put Steve
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Nelson out there with a saxophone in one hand of
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: football on the other and might he have a better
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: QBR rating than c J. Stret Very well? Coolophone, you
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying?
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: Oh, would be awesome. You stick like the mouth mouthpiece,
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: like right between the guys face mask.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Here the whole game for the Patriots. They beat Houston.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: I know Houston's got a great defense, but they beat
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: a team that couldnot move the ball, They couldn't run it,
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: and they literally threw the ball up for grabs every
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: time with their quarterback, and they needed the fourth quarter
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: to scare that win. I'm gonna I choose to look
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: at that and say, maybe the Patriots are beatable.
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah they are.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: They turn into the Brady Bilichick pat.
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: They are not. They are not that. But I but
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: I think you also have to realize, Look, I could
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: be totally wrong about this, and I hope that I am.
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: And this is no, I'm not casting dispersions on stid of.
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: It's mostly because I just don't know. I don't know
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: what you're going to get. Okay, he could come. It's
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: your fear of the it's the unknown that's talking. I'm
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: not fear of the unknown. Well, I'm not going to
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: talk out of my backside, like, oh yeah, if Peyton
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: believes in this guy, then this guy is gonna listen.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Most I appreciate your honestly, you don't know. You know,
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: I don't I do. You don't because a lot of
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: times you come on the show and and you know
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: you play this role and we know now it's fake
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: at the heart, you're a coward, and it's great that
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: you're at least letting us know who you are.
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: By the way, no time out. Time out for a second,
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: because what I could do, and I know you're laughing
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: about it, you're just being funny. I could spend the
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: next eight minutes of this segment absolutely blowing his face up.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: I know you could.
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: No, no, not being said, Brett, Brett, would you just
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: like to defend me a little bit so I don't
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: waste the next eight minutes.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: Don't do it, Brett, No, thank you.
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: You're a big boy.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Stephanie on the text line rights In Denver, fans have
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: a toxic positivity when it comes to Stitty. One moment,
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: I'm depressed. The next moment, I'm like, Hey, we got this.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: That's fair. That's fair. That's a good way to look
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: at it.
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: Who said that?
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: A great text?
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: Who Stephanie, I just want to play for you. This
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: is Richie Incognito on that what is it again?
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: Nelly?
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: What's this podcast called?
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: The Arena Gridiron?
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: The Arena Gridirons? That's got to keep on it and
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: skip bay Lists and some other people. He played with
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: Stidham in Vegas. He was an offensive lineman for him
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: when he took over as the starter for a couple
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: of games late in that Raider season.
• 28:02
  Speaker 7: He said this, and he made two starts for us,
• 28:04
  Speaker 7: and this kid doesn't he do He balled out. I
• 28:06
  Speaker 7: think in two starts he put up a thirty pass
• 28:09
  Speaker 7: in the yards torch the forty nine ers, number one
• 28:12
  Speaker 7: defense in the NFL.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: This kid has a live arm.
• 28:14
  Speaker 7: He's accurate, and he's smart. And we missed out in
• 28:17
  Speaker 7: Las Vegas because we wanted to sign him as a
• 28:20
  Speaker 7: backup kind of going into the next season, and it took
• 28:22
  Speaker 7: a Pete for the starting job, and Sean Payton came
• 28:24
  Speaker 7: in with the big contract. I mean that inked him
• 28:27
  Speaker 7: to a deal. Now Stidham's got three years. He knows
• 28:29
  Speaker 7: the offense. This is no scrub. This is not you're
• 28:32
  Speaker 7: getting some guy off the street. This was a masterclass
• 28:35
  Speaker 7: by Sean Payton a few years ago to say, hey,
• 28:37
  Speaker 7: this guy is going to be a great backup quarterback
• 28:40
  Speaker 7: and if he needs to step in, we got full confidence.
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: There's one thing that I know about Riching Tognaito, and
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: I know a lot about him. He was all the
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: way back when he played for the RASCA for a
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: couple of years. He's up here a couple of screws
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: that aren't totally tight, but he will say whatever is
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: on his mind, whatever is on his mind. I don't
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: think he says that about Stidham unless he believes it.
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: And again with the Stidham stuff, there's other factors of
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: this game that we'll get to a little bit later
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: that are outside of his own sort of realm. The
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: bottom line is, if you're going into a situation where
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: you are not asked to put the world on your
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: shoulders to win. It's not filling in for Josh Allen.
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: Does Buffalo win football games without Josh Allen being a superhuman?
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: No?
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: Does take any sort of top end quarterback, Lamar Jackson,
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: anybody else like that, Like when Baltimore's losing all those games,
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson's out because nobody can be Lamar asking a
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: guy to walk in. And here's the big difference, bo Nix,
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: hang on, hang on one second. Bow Knicks did one
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: thing incredibly well, which was close games. But how many times,
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: guys did we get here on a Monday after a
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: Broncos game and say the hell happened for three quarters?
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: Even in the game they won last week where I
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: thought bow Knicks was great, They had forty seven yards
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: in the second half with two and a half minutes
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: left to go in the fourth quarter. It's just about
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: keeping it steady first. Okay, So my question to you is,
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: or stitty if you will, do you have.
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: A running game?
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: No, they haven't had a running No.
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: No, this isn't expand on my question.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Can't sorry to answer yes right now?
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: Do they have a run or false? Do they have
• 30:30
  Speaker 5: a running game?
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: No, false, Okay, good?
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: Are they depleted now at the receiver position? Yes?
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Two receivers down?
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: Manos.
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: Have they figured you're gonna use every damn thing in
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: the in the book? Aren't you? Have they figured out
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: a way to really incorporate the tight end and kick ass?
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Not yet?
• 30:48
  Speaker 6: Ok?
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: Then if it's not on the quarterback, then who the
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: hell is it on? Whose shoulders?
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Get it on?
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: On?
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: Listen to Vic?
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: Hey, I cut that new viccate again louder for people
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: in the back play.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: Very simple, it's on the defense to take the ball away,
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: just like they did last week. It's not very simple.
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: It's on this defense. It's been on the defense all year,
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: just not lately.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: Then, what's even more so?
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: What is gonna I'm just this is me being curious.
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: What is what is it going to need to look
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: like offensively for you to put up points to win
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: the game?
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: Let me tell you what it's gonna look like, well, defensively,
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: Because you don't think they know what I just said.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: They know exactly what I said. They know that the
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Broncos personnel wise, are depleted offensively, They're not exactly going
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: to explode for forty points. So what they're gonna do.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: I know this and write it down. This will go
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: down like my prediction I gave you last week. Write
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: it down. They're gonna run the hell out of the
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: ball even more than they have already the season. They're
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: gonna run, run, and run some more. The only time
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: they're gonna pass is if they have to or in
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: play action. They're gonna double up on the run game.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: They don't want to give the ball back to the Broncos.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: They don't want Drew May to get strip sacked. They
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: don't want any of that, Drake. I'm sorry, Drake May.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: They don't want to put him in a situation where
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: he puts the ball on the grind like he did
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: against Houston. So they are going to really stay heavy
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: on the run, even if it means a couple three
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: and outs. They're gonna run, run, and run some more.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: And they're gonna lean on their defense to stop the
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: Broncos offense that well it struggled to begin with, and
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: now minus a quarterback and two receivers, that's what they're
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: gonna do.
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: I'll give you any how about this I would take
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: if you give me the option of a guarantee guaranteed
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: Jered Steam throws three touchdown passes or he has no turnovers.
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: I take the turnovers. I think that's gonna matter more.
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: I think not allowing the Patriots to have extra opportunities
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: on offense and relying on your defense is gonna give
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: you the best opportunity to win this the best. Now,
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: there's somebody else, and Vic you mentioned him earlier in
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: the week, but there's somebody that is going to matter
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: that really hasn't mattered all year. That is a necessity
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: to me when this game comes around this weekend. We'll
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: get to that next. Bednar is going to join us
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: in fifteen minutes to stay tuned for the Jared Bednar Show.
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: If you guys missed Jared Bednar, I'll ask him this again.
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: But here was his initial answer on what is goalie interference?
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: Do you feel any clear on what goaltender interference is?
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah? No, I have no clue what it is. Still
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: to this day, I don't mind saying it.
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: Here is what Jared Bednar thought of the tripping call
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: on Scott Wedgwood. It looks like Wegley, you had to
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: stick knocked out and then they got tripped over.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: I mean yeah, what was the I guess what did
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: you see on that?
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: That's exactly what I saw there, guy skating through knocked
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: the stick out of his hands and tripped out behind
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: the net. Yeah, I mean you tell me the penalty
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: or not. Obviously it is tonight.
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: And here is Nathan McKinnon on goalie interference.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Legid Hack thought there's no way it was getting called
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: doc Like Betty says, they're never right, like the coaches
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: are never right.
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  Speaker 5: Now, Betty says that, like they have no idea like
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: what counts? So nobody does.
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: So we'll ask Bennar about that in fifteen minutes. Now.
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: The impact player, Vick. You mentioned this name earlier in
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: the week, and I think you are so right. It
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: saw news yesterday. So Broncos are doing some roster shuffling.
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: They had to do it initially to get Ben Denucci
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: on the roster as your emergency quarterback for this game.
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: By the way, what a blessing to have Sam Allinger
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: stay on the roster after a preseason right, like he
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: didn't feel that impact until now. Now you have a
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: viable backup to your backup. But they also just went
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: out and signed Brandon Johnson, who you remember he was
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: here for a couple of years. He was sort of
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: a preseason darling. He did have four touchdowns in twenty
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: twenty three for the Broncos, but has never really caught
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: on anywhere else since they signed him back. Because of
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: the injury problems you're having at wide receiver, that probably
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: is translating to hey, guys, Pat Bryant, Troy Franklin not
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: going to be there this weekend would be my guess.
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: So your wide.
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: Receivers room is down to Sutton Mims, Humphrey and now
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: Brandon Johnson. It's a must, I need, It's a necessity.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: Evan Ingram's got to have one impact game this year,
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: like one.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if you go back to the preseason,
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: do you remember his finest performance as a Bronco was
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: in a game in which Jared Stidham was the quarterback. Yeah,
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: do you remember the game?
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: He had one decent game against Washington. He had like
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: six catches for eighty yards or something like that. But
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: I mean, guys, he do you know how many games
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: he missed due to injury this year? Evan Ingram?
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Zero one.
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: He missed one game. It was early in the year
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: where he was banged up a little bit. He missed
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: one game, and I don't think I remember a single
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: game where I'm like, Evan Ingram played great.
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: Uh. He had a couple games where I thought he
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: was pretty noticeable.
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: I just thought it was Washington. Washington was the one game.
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess, okay, fine.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: You need to have one of the quote others step
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: up in a game like this, and I'm putting Evan
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: Ingram in the other's category. You know, I know everybody
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: was like, oh, he's the joker. I've been saying it forever.
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: I think the joker is the tiniest guy in your
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: skill position group, which is Marvin Mims. But it's funny.
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: Kurt Warner was on with The Morning Sprint yesterday and
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: they asked him about a go to playmaker. He said
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: mine was Marshall Falk, which was obvious if you remember
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: the Greatest Show on Turf, Well, Marshall Fulk was a
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: terrific football He did everything.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: Yes, they said, well, who's that on the Broncos.
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: It's an interesting question with Denver because I'm not sure
• 36:44
  Speaker 6: they have that guy, you know, the guy.
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: There running back. No, you're correct, right, you.
• 36:51
  Speaker 6: Know, but I'm not sure they even have, you know,
• 36:54
  Speaker 6: just that you know that one guy. So I think
• 36:56
  Speaker 6: it's going to be by committee. You know, he's gonna
• 36:59
  Speaker 6: need Courtland's to step up at times and and and
• 37:03
  Speaker 6: be big four him. He's going to need the running
• 37:04
  Speaker 6: back corps, probably by the committee. You know, some of
• 37:07
  Speaker 6: them short passes to take him the distance and make
• 37:10
  Speaker 6: big plays on him. And so, yeah, I don't know
• 37:13
  Speaker 6: if there's one guy that I look at with that
• 37:15
  Speaker 6: and go, oh, we've got to build our game plan
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: around this guy to help Jared, because I'm not sure
• 37:20
  Speaker 6: they're that guy.
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: Let Ingram be part of the committee.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: Who's that Kurt Warner?
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: Kurt, That's okay, you know he knows stuff. He's a
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: Hall of Fame quarterback.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: So let let's just think about this for a second.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: Let's think about this. Who will they have offensively skill
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: wise to help a quarterback who hasn't thrown a ball
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: in two years. Who will they have. They'll have Courtland Sutton,
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: who played Let's be honest, he wasn't typical Courtland Sutton
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: in the last game. He played bad. Yeah, so they'll
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: have Courtland Sutton. They will have Evan Ingram, they'll have
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: Marvin Mims, who saved the day. They'll have little Jordan Humphrey,
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: they'll have the other two tight ends who you know,
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: maybe they have to drops. Okay, listen to this. Pat
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: Bryant and I know he left with a concussion. If
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: he passes these tests this week, I think Pat Bryant
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: can play. And I know that's asking a lot for
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: a guy who suffered a concussion.
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: When you say, when you say he can play, do
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: you mean like physically he's able to play? Do you
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: mean like he can he's a good player.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: Like No, No, like physically able to play. The you
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: know we all assumed having the concussion issues that he's out.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: I I think that he can play. I think he's
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: more likely to play than than Troy Franklin.
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: Really well, yeah, hammies.
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, hammies are paint in the butt.
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you k two of those in a month, though, Man,
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: that's I get Yeah.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: I know how delicate that subject matter is, concussions. I
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: get it. He's gonna have to undergo the battery of
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: tests and pass those tests. But from what I'm told,
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: he wants to go. Yeah, we'll see. They need all
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: all hands on deck. Yes, JK. Dobbins is the wild card.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: He's the wild card.
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: I'm so I'm so interested to see how his wheat goes.
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: Number one, but number two, if he in fact can go,
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: and we've been hoping and hoping and hoping that he
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: can for some time now. If he can go, take
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: your pick yourr j's and your jk's and your mj'son. No.
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: But if Dobbins can go, I just I'm wondering how
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: effective he can be. It's a Liz Frank is it not? Yes? Okay,
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: so what's the foot do list? Frank? It more? Yeah?
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: It's so how effective can you be, especially when you're
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: out there doing running back stuff? Vic in game time.
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: I'm not talking about practice, which you can ramp it
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: up in practice, no doubt about it. You can cut
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: and you can jump, and you can start and stop
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: and all this kind of thing. But time situation, when
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: guys on the other side want to hurt you take
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: your head off and they're coming at full full speed
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: doesn't hold up. I just don't know.
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: Can you run between the tackles for four yards? That
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: would be a massively huge boost, it would because the
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: other guys just can't you know Rjie Harvey does some
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: really nice stuff out of the backfield catching the ball.
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: Archie Harvey is really effective. Uh Juliel when he gets
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: outside on a run, he can be effective. Neither can
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: go between the tackles, and that's what they're missing right now.
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: So we get back to this in a bit. Jared
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: Bednar is going to join us in a few minutes,
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: just quickly. I have a question if cheating matters are not.
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: No, you know what, I've come to the other side.
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: You know what I say, Vic, I say, just cheat
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: as much as you possibly can.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: What are you talking to? Nobody likes cheaters like.
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: Well, I've been conditioned by this society now that everybody
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: likes cheaters.
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: Nobody likes cheaters in life, sports society. Let me finish
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: this homotion. Nobody likes cheaters in life. Nobody likes cheaters
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: and sports. Nobody likes cheaters and golf. And the BBWA
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: certainly doesn't like cheaters because no steroid user is in
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame. I have no beef with the
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: two men who got in yesterday, Carlos Beltron and Andrew Jones.
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: I think they're both fantastic players. But if cheating is
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: your entire reasoning behind not putting guys like Bonds and
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: Clemens and a Rod and everybody else in the hall?
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: How do you simply overlooked that Carlos Beltron, who I
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: like was the entire architect of the trash can banging
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: scandal in Houston got them a world serials.
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: I mean, it really wasn't that big of a deal.
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: What kind of hypocrisy are they going to throw out
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: there on that one? And again, most just to clarify,
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: He's in my Hall of Fame, and so is Bonds,
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: and so is everybody else.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: But how do they justify that one.
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: Is Carlos Beltron hall of Fame type of player? Yes,
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: he's amazing, he is. You look, Barry Bonds was a
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: Hall of Famer before he even got on the juice.
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: But how do but how do they justify xing out
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: those guys and keeping Beltron? Because I think I got
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: the answer? What is that Beltron's really likable? He's a
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: nice guy, and I'm sure he is really nice to
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: all these riders that wrote him in.
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: Well is a is? Well? Is a Rod not likable?
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: Are you kidding?
• 42:29
  Speaker 6: No?
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: People hated a Rod forever they thought it was an egomaniacal,
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: crazy person. Bonds was famously unlikable. I agree with that,
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: famously unlikable. How about Mark McGuire, I actually don't know McGuire.
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: You ever heard a cross word about Mark McGuire?
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: He got a little stingy sometimes he pushed it just
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: telling you.
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: So. Beltron's a nice guy. Look, he's a Hall of
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: Fame player. I hate the fact that nobody really ever
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: got popped at all for the twenty seventeen scandal.
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: And when you said he did, remember he was the
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: manager of the Mets for like five seconds. They made
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: him resign, right, So, I mean he didn't get punished
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: in that sense.
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: Did that team get punished at all?
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: No, guys. I was so when I saw some information
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: come across about Hall of Fame and I'm looking at
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: Andrew Jones, this is how far it's gone. I didn't
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: even know there was a Hall of Fame proceeding going on.
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: I mean either that Baseball always does Baseball.
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: Always does it it seemingly the draft even right the
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: draft is like, oh yeah, the drafts for eleven am
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: on a Wednesday. You're like, what wait, what can I.
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: Just say one thing about Andrew Jones because I'm boys,
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: I'm hitting the.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: Weird spot of he was a cool customer.
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: Let me tell you something, The transition's happening. They had
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: two kids now, and now my childhood players I watched
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: are now.
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: Doing Hall of Fame stuff.
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: Like I remember going to a Royals game when I
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: was a kid. In the Royals outfield was Beltron, Johnny Damon,
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: and Jermaine Die and I was in love with that outfield.
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: I was like, those are like amazing players. But let
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: me say something to Andrew Jones, for my money, the
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: smoothest and best fielding center fielder that's ever existed in
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: my lifetime. He never had to dive to make a
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: catch because he always took the proper angle to a baseball. Yeah,
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: in your lifetime, in my lifetime, in my lifetime.
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: Yet well, because he was he was big, he was
• 44:30
  Speaker 5: he went fast, and he was long. Yes, Andrew Jones
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: is long. He's a long guy, and you're right, so
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: he doesn't have I mean, even shots in the gap
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: he always got. That's exactly right, he ran them down.
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: That's Gary Walker.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: Larry Walker was sort of that guy here in Colorado.
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, him too, but anyway, cheating, I guess it matters.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: Sometimes listen Hall of Fame and how it's voted for
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: and all that. No one's gonna tell me when when
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: I opened my eyes and I watched baseball over the
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: last fifty years, one of the greatest players I've ever
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: seen is Barry Bonds. You may not like him personally,
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know many people that do. It doesn't change
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: the fact that he's one of the greatest players I've
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: ever seen.
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: Ever, ever, let's get to a break.
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: Jared Bednar, head coach of the Avs, with his weekly
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: appearance on this show. Next