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Ep. 8 with Dr. Shuaib Adeadebayo, FCA, FCCA, FCTI, CFE · King Dems Podcast | Growth Mindset, Leadership, AI and Business Insights

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  Let's go. This is a lifetime lesson, so
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  start now. We are like, wow, ladies and
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  gentlemen, you want to give welcome to the King this podcast
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  and today I have with me a very, very important personality.
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  I have written your introduction here, Sir, so he did the
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  pleasure of introducing you. This is a man who is a teacher.
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  He's a leader. He's a philanthropist.
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  He is a businessman. He's a finance professional.
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  He's a chartered accountant, certified fraud examiner, a
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  certified tax practitioner and IRS experts.
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  This month is IFRS in Human Body.
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  He's a Certified Public Sector Accountant.
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  He he's an MBA holder. He's an economist with an MSC.
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  He's a PhD order, making him an academic Dr and of course.
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  He is a. Certified Engineer of Accounting
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  and finance as well. He is a director of finance and
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  administration in one of the top international NGO's.
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  He is a renowned author. He's a coach.
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  Of mentor and amiable club member.
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  He's a family man amongst many other things.
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  Please make welcome Doctor Shoaib at the Adebayo.
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  Thank you very much for coming on board today, Sir.
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  How are you doing, Sir? Thank.
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  You very much the move as I fondly call you Ademola, is
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  Simmerman. Thank you for having me on your
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  podcast. Ohh, thank you very much for
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  COVID, but it's it's really a pleasure.
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  It's, it's an honour. Yeah.
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  More than a pleasure having you on.
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  But so you are a man who is a public figure, right?
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  A lot of people don't your eyes, you know.
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  Different things based on probably the roles that you play
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  to them, but there there, how would you describe yourself, you
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  know, on a personal basis? Thank you very much, Ademola.
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  You have already done the introduction.
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  I'm at the Adebayor Shrive. I'm born to a royal family in
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  Ijebu E local government Egypt ensuring Jabu machine, um
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  Academian and also. I combined both academic and
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  professional together. Umm is solution provider.
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  I love to provide solution to many organisations.
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  In fact, my appetite for solving organisation problem when it
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  comes to finance, I've made me to be where I am today.
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  I want to say that I work with many organisation that their
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  financial statement is not up to date.
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  I will get their put all those financial statements together,
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  they move to another organisation.
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  So I'm a solution provider. I create financials her
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  environment for organisation that doesn't have it.
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  I've worked with catering, service, NGO's.
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  I work with Danjuma Foundation and work with Centre for
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  Integrated Health. Programme, among many others.
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  Currently I work with the USAID funded project as Director of
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  Finance and Admin. I love providing solution to a
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  problem. That's what made me to be a
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  Chartered Accountant producer. I'm not just a Chartered
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  Accountant. I produced Chartered Accountant.
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  Including yourself. Yeah, I should.
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  I should have read it. I do on on my discussion.
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  Right. Wow.
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  You are you are you are really great banana.
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  Of course I always appreciate you know that value that that
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  you you give and the value that you have actually issued in my
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  in my life and you know that speaks to why I have been
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  haunting you since last year to complete all the podcast.
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  Thank you very much. So really, you know that you
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  understand a person, right? I strongly believe that it is
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  essential to to get to know about their childhood and what
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  growing up was like for them because that those are the
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  formative years, right? And you know, the values that go
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  on to make an adult are usually formed, you know, in the process
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  of childhood. So can you please, you know,
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  tell us, you know, about your childhood and what growing up
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  was like for yourself? Hmm.
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  Hi Demola, the question you have just asked is a question are
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  they like to reflect back on Go growing up but his childhood was
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  a difficult one for. Me, I must tell you I want the
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  youth coming out there to listen to this podcast again and again
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  and learn from my AH. At my tender age, I want to tell
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  you that I started paying my JSS 3 Why Heck examination myself.
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  See when I get my pH. D.
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  In fact, I would go like down the memory lane.
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  My parents wish to sponsor my education but the power is not
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  yet due to some difficulty they they face during that time there
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  were to do person but at times that when we are growing they
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  face some predicament that makes them not.
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  To be up to their responsibility and during when I was young they
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  used to call me big. No bigma as my ideas because
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  I'm, well, chubby. Because of that name.
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  That name makes me to say that if I'm called Big Man because my
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  parents for now have some difficulty and challenges, I
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  must ensure I become a person in life by when I was I think seven
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  years. I do follow people that are
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  constructing building. We call it brick layers.
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  I. Do assist them to carry cement
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  to make sand in order to get some money that I will use to
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  take care of my academics. As I've said, growing up is not
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  a good experience, but I. Have it in mind that I will
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  become somebody and I will tell the youth over there.
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  Even when you don't have parents, you can become whatever
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  you want to become the moment you will have the determination.
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  But two things must come on board.
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  One, you must have a good attitude and you must be
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  prayerful. Good attitude makes you to meet
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  people that will assist you in your journey.
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  So getting during my youth age. I fend for myself.
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  Fend for my junior ones to the extent that while I was in the
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  ND one at Federal Polytechnic offer, I want to become a
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  lawyer. But when you have your jump and
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  you won't be able to pursue it to the latter, you know our
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  system. But thank God Professor Leidy
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  came on board to stabilise it. Now even when Jam gave you
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  admission, you still need to pursue it with some connections
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  and other things. I was unable to do that.
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  That's why I got to Andy at Federal Polytechnic cover.
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  So during my day one. I.
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  Need to pay school fees I didn't have but the Polytechnic have
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  staff secondary school they are building.
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  I need to go there to support the civil engineer will call
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  bricklayer here and become the bricklayer boy to miss the
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  cement and collect money. The experience I want to share
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  is that one of my friends, a girlfriend Jokela Sisi, was
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  passing by and she saw me and I'm a good idea allow my
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  background to affect me in class.
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  I was still the class captain because I'm brilliant right from
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  childhood. I told myself that I will always
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  be the first in the class which I don't see this present moment.
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  So she saw me and instead of me to run away.
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  I continued looking at her. She said I decided not to answer
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  her pretending and see if I'm not the buyer.
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  She now she said Wow people used to look alike look as if this
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  person resemble by her. You know that she used to do cap
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  in carrying those so she was she was murdered.
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  So this person can actually look like bio in the evening when we
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  have class. That very day I went home serve
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  them, collect my money, take my bath and look nice, put perfume
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  and get to the class. Joking.
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  I said why you buy you buy your Come, please, please.
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  I saw someone that looked like you.
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  I said yes. God used to create us Tutu.
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  So where is he? I said where is the person?
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  Said Ohh. Person was walking staff.
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  Secondary school is a bricklayer.
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  I was angry. I said so You didn't have
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  anybody to compare me with. You are comparing me with a
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  bricklayer. Well, let's go.
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  So we went for getting there. They've already closed, which I
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  know you can't meet anybody like that, he said.
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  They've closed. So what I'm trying to say is
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  that my young age was a challenging one, but I take it
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  in good faith knowing fully there will be a.
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  Light at the end of the tunnel. And here I am today.
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  I know what good I've done in my life.
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  Thank you. Probably, yeah, that that sees.
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  A really, really amazing and inspiring story right there.
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  But then you know lessons and values that you know I
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  personally peak from your childhood, right?
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  Or self belief, right? Determination, right?
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  Resilience. Persistence, right.
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  These things are like really really essential and you know
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  the the the goal with you to to propel you towards, you know
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  upgrade things in life. Like you said your your attitude
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  is very very very important in life.
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  You know, I like to say that your attitude determines the
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  magnitude of your I remember meeting.
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  You when? I was in the course of, you
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  know, becoming a chartered accountant and then I.
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  Saw I saw how you believed in me as a young person and then you
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  you identified that OK, this guy has a right.
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  And then I was, I was I was support him like really I put it
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  to you. I really appreciate you know,
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  all of the support that you gave me, you know?
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  In becoming a chartered accountant.
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  And you know. Also.
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  I remember that. My final yeah, my my, my final
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  exams, right? That was the very first time
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  that I ever filed papers. And then I felt really, really
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  bad. I felt ashamed.
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  And then when I came up to you, he saw me and he said, did you
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  put your best? I said yeah, I tried.
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  And he he said go you're seeing go and see.
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  No more. Try again are you?
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  Get it right this time. And then you know it just felt
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  like, ohh, I disappointed myself and disappointed you.
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  But then the way you took it was like, OK, don't be ashamed to
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  feel right, but then never give up on yourself.
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  And then the next time, we all know how the story went right.
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  I think the the the very least score I had was like 72.
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  I had 80 something. So just something.
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  So really, when you look at people that are upcoming.
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  A lot of times they face like challenges and life.
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  Some of them might not be like financial challenges.
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  We like fill in different ways in our lives, right?
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  But then very importantly, it is essential not to use self
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  belief. Because when you do self belief
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  right, the essence of life is hope and faith.
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  Basically when you lose yourself believe, it's like you've lost
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  everything. Actually, I'd like for young up
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  and coming people out there to learn, you know, a couple of
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  things from your story and of course even.
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  My own story as well with you. Like, you know, it is essential.
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  That they do not lose their self, their self belief and
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  which whatever they are going through in life you can always
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  become somebody if you if you try so.
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  Thank you very. Much for sharing the story of
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  your childhood with us. So with that, you know been said
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  like who? Who were your early life
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  influences? Who were those people who were
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  like early mentors and early probably does to you?
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  OK. Thank you for that.
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  Even during that trip period, I have somebody that is my
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  influencer I call Alhaji Usman. Alhaji Ajetunmobi is a retired
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  principal, mostly secondary school Shagam Open states.
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  Uh is a husband to my sister. I lived with his Shagamu states
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  what I love in him. That influenced me a lot.
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  He never angry with anyone. It never angry with anyone.
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  Even when the situation warrants him to be mad, he keep calm,
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  maintain his calmness. Such is what I'm relate from him
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  #1 #2. He doesn't use abusive language.
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  The language you use when it's angry or even never angry, but
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  when you just want to abuse someone, say Abu Mugi.
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  Abu Mugi means do you drink pap for you to be missed in this way
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  so you can see that it's a slight or light abuse.
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  Apple Mugi Abu Musica do you smoke cigarettes or do you drink
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  pap? That means it will be.
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  That's the. Sophie's abuse, So.
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  I'm like that and it's always happy.
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  I visited him during this holiday.
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  He's 70 years old now and he's still looking radiant, young and
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  agile, so I emulate him a lot. I look up to him and also when
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  we are growing up to the blessed memory moshood Kashimawo at
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  Viola as a Chartered accountant, I always dream about to become
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  become a Chartered accountant. That time you know it's from
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  Mughal state, my state. So I look up to him and is an
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  accountant, a chartered accountant, also a politician
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  And you look at, you know, in me I have both as a chartered
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  accountant and also a little bit political.
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  It's just that Nigeria politics were wary of it, if not with
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  fully. But when today I'm the Vice
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  Chairman of Icon in Abuja FCT and by June 1st this year I've
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  become the chairman of Abuja Icon.
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  So politically. Congratulations on that.
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  Thank you very much. So these are the two people that
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  I look up to and they are my influencer.
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  OK, so why? Why, growing up, was it always
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  your dream to become a chartered accountant?
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  Or like, did you, like, have other dreams and aspirations?
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  During your childhood. Thank you very much.
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  I dream to become a chartered accountant.
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  Or a lawyer? Law is a force.
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  To become a lawyer is a first thing.
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  But because of we are life of Moshood Kashimawo Olawale,
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  Abiola, I'm now moving away from that to become a chartered
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  accountant. And also, you know, I told you
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  when you are, when you when you jam gives you admission, but you
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  can pursue it to the latter then I'm unable to go for that long.
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  But the second that is to become a chartered accountant, to
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  become an accountant. I got admission to a federal
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  Polytechnic offer to study accounting.
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  So the two are what I intend to do, and I still believe that
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  with age in my side, I've got my side.
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  I can see for sure my LD if I so desire.
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  Well that actually is the lead up to my next question, right?
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  That is you know talk us through your academic background because
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  you are a man of numerous qualifications.
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  I know probably all your LinkedIn, right.
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  You are probably out of space for all of the qualifications
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  that you have like. But then how did it all start?
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  You You go here. Thank you very much.
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  As I've said, I intend to become a lawyer or a chartered
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  accountant due to the influence or what I grew up to as a
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  motivator from the late Moshood Kashimawo Abiola and I got my
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  admission into Federal Polytechnic Offa.
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  In 1992 and I got my English with upper credits.
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  I also got my ancient D in 2000. Ohh is 1998.
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  Yes 1998. Sorry, I got my HND in 2004 with
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  upper credits. I suppose you came out.
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  I supposed to come out with decision, but you know the
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  lecturer. Then when they do not have
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  decision and you want to become the first person to have the
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  decision, they will say no. In Nigeria it works.
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  No you can't get that decision. We came out with a lower credit
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  offer credit, therefore my GP was 3.57 and 3.47 and 3.50 is
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  his decision level. So deliberately was called down
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  to 3.47, so that's not a problem.
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  It's it's making sure. How did you feel about that at
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  at that point in time? Thank you.
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  Thank you very much. I have felt bad because when I
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  was in school, I led the school academically and politically.
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  Yeah. And during that time, everybody
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  expects me to her decision. So.
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  I was not feeling. I was feeling bad in.
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  Fact, but not knowing that it's a blessing these guys.
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  As soon as I came out with the decision I will be going to bank
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  to go and walk and other things the moment I have.
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  That's I. Said I'm going for another
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  degree. I can't accept this as my
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  degree, so I need to pursue my BC.
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  As a result I enrol for BSc programme at University of Benin
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  and you know I told you I sponsor my education at a point
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  I could not complete that. But because I see how the dream
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  to have my BC, I have BS in Economics and also shallow BSc
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  in Accounting and Finance from the University of Derby.
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  In. UK over there.
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  I also have my master in finance and in Accounting and Finance
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  from the University of Northampton with merits.
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  Uh during this this period I look for CES 2008 UH.
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  I finish my CPA. I got qualified in 2000 and
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  12/20/12. At the same time I got qualified
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  with ICON. I got my CD Fours before I can
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  become Associate Chartered Accountant with ICON and 20 2013
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  2013 I hello for Certified Fraud Examiner and I was you know
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  about one in that diet I think I see have my my my my my result
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  yeah I'm the number one and because of my score we you need
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  to pass four people pass with 75 and above and saw my score
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  939596 Investigation, Fraud examination, accounting and
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  examination is focuses and I score very high to the extent
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  that my name is #1 the lease. When the qualified candidate was
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  released, I was also adopted as Certified Fraud Examiner.
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  Uh, Fast forward in 2018. I become a Fellow of Icon in
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  2018. I become a fellow of Icon and in
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  20 2020 no same 2018 and become a fellow of AC.
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  In 2020 I become a fellow of Chartered a soft transition of
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  Nigeria. And also, I'm a Financial
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  Reporting council member. I can sign up with financial
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  statements and many other qualification short courses that
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  time will not permit us to to be mentioning.
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  Especially when you work in angio space you need to be doing
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  those courses. So all this is what I do to
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  become what I become in life and I thank God for His mercy and
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  also for his love over myself and my family.
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  Despite having this knowledge, I decided to transfer this
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  knowledge to other people coming up.
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  Uh, as I've said. You.
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  Are part of my products and I have many more that are
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  lecturers like me. Are produced nothing less than
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  10 lecturers and also produce more than 3000 Chartered
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  Accountants on my credits in my school that was Co funded by my
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  professional colleagues likes of Chimerica is Aribe the chairman
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  of Top Notch learning Centre in likes of Uchi your 4.
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  The Ponya CEO of Top Notch, now Director of Finance in likes of
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  being a Ajayi. The CEO of Top Notch.
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  He likes. So was sadly.
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  Berman, e-mail Daniel the director of strategy.
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  In in terms in like in the likes of lads at the other day with me
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  with a pleasant memory, we decide that we decided that we
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  should transfer this knowledge and ensure we bring the best out
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  of the people that want to become a chartered accountant.
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  During the time of our intervention, it was the time
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  corporate reporting was introduced.
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  It was the time strategic financial management was
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  introduced and is giving students a mirage.
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  We look at it that we have that capacity to to to to to to
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  demystify those courses. That is the reason why we are
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  not having a lot of Chartered Accountants.
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  You know, for the Internet or what?
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  Of course 2013, right? The.
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  Qualification you were doing in 2013, I think after a C you did.
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  Yeah, yeah, I now become a certified for Examiner.
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  OK, 2013, right? Yes, in 2013.
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  In 2018 I become a fellow of instead of Chartered Accountants
• 28:37
  of Nigeria. In 2020 I become fellow into
• 28:43
  same 2018 fellow of EC. 2020 Fellow of CITN?
• 28:53
  No. It's 2020 Fellow of C2021,
• 28:56
  Fellow of CITN, and a lot of short courses like A the.
• 29:09
  I'm a holder of strategic planning from University of
• 29:18
  ending book and ebook Business School from Airwatch University.
• 29:23
  Yes, I have a strategic planning certificates and many others
• 29:29
  short course certificate. Especially when you work in an
• 29:33
  NGO space, I would not stop. Will continue to learn
• 29:38
  everything and. To put the icing on the cake.
• 29:44
  2013 just last year I was awarded Dr of Philosophy in
• 29:50
  Accounting from Lincoln University College, Malaysia.
• 29:57
  Wow, that's that that that is that is a very, very big deal.
• 30:01
  And that is a lot. But there are have you lost
• 30:04
  count of the number of degrees and certifications that you
• 30:08
  have? Thank you very much.
• 30:12
  Ohh. You will agree with.
• 30:15
  Me that I I lost Charlie briefly because I was unable to mention
• 30:21
  the short courses that are attended in various university
• 30:26
  and the one attended with USAID, CDC and many organisations where
• 30:33
  you work in Angel space. So the only one I can remember
• 30:38
  vividly is those that has to do with the one I've mentioned so
• 30:42
  far. So if you have estimated number
• 30:46
  like how how many do you think they would be?
• 30:48
  Ohh. Qualifications are the one I can
• 30:54
  lay my hand on and remember Now they will be like 20 but we
• 30:59
  still have more of that. Actually bad, but they are short
• 31:05
  courses certificates. OK, OK.
• 31:07
  For the short courses, if you're estimated number, what would
• 31:10
  that be? That would be like 28 or if not
• 31:15
  30. Wow.
• 31:17
  Wow. So it means that you have like
• 31:19
  more than 50. Yes.
• 31:23
  Satisfactory. That's.
• 31:24
  I love. I love learning.
• 31:27
  It's part of me. Infants.
• 31:29
  You. You you know the way I do, I can
• 31:31
  still come to you and learn. The moment I know that you have
• 31:34
  some knowledge in some area, I always come down to learn.
• 31:42
  Even when it's my son or daughter, I always like
• 31:45
  learning. You can't claim monopoly of
• 31:50
  knowledge, but. That you know that they have
• 31:54
  that knowledge and learn everything.
• 31:56
  I think we're all brilliant thing which you know, having
• 31:59
  more knowledge is the more you learn, the more you discover
• 32:01
  that you don't know. Yeah.
• 32:04
  Because yeah, the more. You know the more you get to
• 32:06
  know that you don't really know. So I love, but I think our
• 32:09
  creative certificate course or podcasting so that he.
• 32:15
  I really thought students. What?
• 32:19
  What is student? Because the teacher?
• 32:22
  Yes, so. It's our pride in my school,
• 32:25
  Federal Polytechnic Offa. When I Rs just came in, they.
• 32:30
  Invited me. They didn't say because I
• 32:32
  graduated. Yeah, they all sat down and I
• 32:36
  took them. I found this one too if others
• 32:39
  1615 then and I swam to IS41I lectured them and they were very
• 32:47
  happy. They gave me a recommendation
• 32:48
  letter not say because they are my lecturers but they know that
• 32:53
  I have the new invoke knowledge that is currently raining.
• 32:57
  So. The.
• 32:58
  Moment you have any any certificate courses, I will be
• 33:04
  glad to a rule. I know that my own money will be
• 33:07
  cheaper compared to outsider because we are your lecturer
• 33:11
  reader this. Yeah, interesting, right.
• 33:15
  So I think a lot of the people that are going to be watching
• 33:17
  this. Would not even have an idea of
• 33:19
  what IFRS is. So let's try to, like, simplify
• 33:23
  it, right. So IFRS is International
• 33:25
  Financial Reporting Standards, right?
• 33:27
  And you know it's in the world of accounting.
• 33:31
  IFRS I think came in like the late twenty 10s there are about.
• 33:37
  2010, yes, you're right. But then previously we were
• 33:42
  using the, the gap science, yes. Yeah, the, the respective gaps.
• 33:47
  And the gaps are generally accepted accounting principles,
• 33:52
  right? So basically they like the
• 33:55
  accounting. Frameworks for accountants in
• 33:58
  different countries, right? So.
• 34:00
  Just to give. People context now.
• 34:04
  These. People that change, you actually
• 34:06
  used the previous gaps, which is the framework that we reasoned
• 34:11
  previously. However, with the world's
• 34:14
  transitioning into a global village right, they needed
• 34:19
  something more unified to in in order to have simple.
• 34:28
  Ohh how, how how how how do I put this?
• 34:30
  Now you know the. Simple fact that and the
• 34:32
  convergence of a standard. That will be used across the
• 34:37
  globe. Right, so.
• 34:39
  Like how? How did he feel for you?
• 34:42
  Right. Being one of the early experts
• 34:47
  in the field of, you know, IFRS and like, what would you say I
• 34:53
  first did for your career? Because I know that it really
• 34:56
  protected you into the world. I made you like very, very
• 34:59
  relevant in the world of accounting.
• 35:02
  So like what would you say? I would like like what?
• 35:05
  Importance would you put you. Know on the early adoption of
• 35:09
  IFRS for yourself right in your relevance globally in the
• 35:15
  accounting profession and of course like what would you say
• 35:17
  indeed for your career as a as a as a person.
• 35:22
  Thank you very much. This is a good question and I
• 35:26
  want to let you know that International Financial
• 35:29
  Reporting standard brought me into limelight as you have
• 35:35
  actually added to that and I want to let you know that we
• 35:42
  have financial accounting standard Board of US, we have
• 35:49
  International accounting standard Board of UKISB
• 35:54
  residence. It's the CA studies are assisted
• 36:02
  me a lot. I looked for AC the moment I
• 36:05
  finished my first degree in in accounting as efficient under.
• 36:16
  You know there are some dichotomies between BC and and
• 36:22
  during that period I decided to get my BSc also study AC.
• 36:28
  So during the time of studying etc etc already.
• 36:34
  Use IIS. We don't.
• 36:37
  Use the gap in Nigeria to study etc.
• 36:43
  When? I was doing the icon is when we
• 36:45
  are using Nigeria, got bought for Inc We use IAS International
• 36:50
  Accounting Standard Board. You know it's because of the
• 36:53
  global convergence where ISB and the Financial Accounting
• 37:00
  Standards Board, five of us and other global body decided that
• 37:05
  we must have a convergence in order to enhance international
• 37:09
  cross-border trading. So that an investor can read a
• 37:14
  financial statement of US, a financial statement of Canada or
• 37:18
  Japan in the same language. That is the reason why this
• 37:24
  world not decided. The individual country decide to
• 37:29
  adopts IFRS. So before Nigeria adopted higher
• 37:35
  fares and started studying highs and IFR races.
• 37:40
  Remember his IAS? That's UK is using International
• 37:47
  Accounting Standard. Vote.
• 37:50
  Yes, I is international accounting standard but emulated
• 37:57
  or or or propagated and established by ISB.
• 38:02
  But because there is difference between principle based
• 38:06
  accounting and rule based accounting, Rubens accounting,
• 38:11
  you follow the rules principle based accounting.
• 38:15
  The standard emphasise that you must do what will enhance fear
• 38:21
  presentation. So that fear presentation cop
• 38:25
  any fraudulent director that want to perpetrate fraud using
• 38:30
  financial jargons or accounting engineering he we arrest them.
• 38:35
  That standard we arrested because they feared presentation
• 38:39
  says If this standard will give to you will not give you fair
• 38:45
  presentation. Adopt that fear presentation to
• 38:48
  present and make additional notes to the account so that we
• 38:53
  understand the basis of you using that approach you want to
• 38:56
  use. So if a director want to
• 38:59
  perpetrate for saying this standard say I should do this
• 39:02
  because standard say I should do this and there is a gap in in
• 39:05
  that standard maybe there is a lacuna.
• 39:07
  The standard of already provide a solution by saying a fair
• 39:11
  presentation even when the standard have a gap and you know
• 39:14
  that what you want to present when enhanced representation do
• 39:18
  that. But in Rupees you will agree
• 39:21
  with me that we have some saga Financial scandal, the
• 39:27
  parliaments and theworld.com saga.
• 39:30
  All those use rubies. And if you agree with me before,
• 39:37
  I too eventually can be measured at lower of cost or net
• 39:44
  realisable value or but now we've changed it to lower of
• 39:50
  course and net realised value some of what I'm submitting to
• 39:54
  you. Is that the?
• 39:58
  Highest. Was study during the ACA.
• 40:06
  This and the moment Nigeria adopted IFRS.
• 40:13
  It is straight or easy ride for me to key in.
• 40:19
  And we are the first foremost people in Nigeria that left
• 40:25
  child High Ferris among other people.
• 40:30
  Yeah, OK. They'll probably I think we got
• 40:32
  just proceed to talking about your professional.
• 40:39
  And business card value also worked with them.
• 40:42
  You have added value to a lot number of organisations.
• 40:46
  So can you like talk us through the organisations you've worked
• 40:50
  with, you know, right from like qualifying and you know the
• 40:53
  businesses you've also been involved in?
• 40:56
  OK. Thank you very much.
• 41:00
  The I was I served in Abia states in 2004.
• 41:06
  I worked with ABI pension board where I contributed my quota.
• 41:12
  Understanding those people that their pension is you and those
• 41:18
  who are genuinely see alive and those who are not alive.
• 41:21
  I was able to bring out the record and the ministry was very
• 41:25
  happy with my service. Immediately after service I work
• 41:29
  for Ali Hawa, those Russian company.
• 41:32
  As an engineering company I work like a year.
• 41:37
  Some months before I join an audit firm, the Major Lazer
• 41:41
  Bosanko, I join us Audit assistant.
• 41:45
  I rose to the position of Audit Manager.
• 41:49
  Currently, even when I've left the organisation, I'm a partner
• 41:54
  in that audit firm because of my the media circle.
• 42:01
  After the media articles were cool.
• 42:03
  I work with catering service as finance specialists handling
• 42:10
  Gabby leader Miller Gate and leader Gator Project.
• 42:16
  On the Gate projects call SSS Sustainable System of Cassava.
• 42:25
  The projects was implemented. You know your states also being
• 42:29
  with states to grow cassava in order for Nigeria to have a
• 42:34
  border Food Gate Foundation supported that project and the
• 42:38
  financial specialists for that project.
• 42:41
  I worked with cutting the service on that project and also
• 42:48
  global from projects and also small projects with USAID, I
• 42:54
  left casually release service to a public sector organisation
• 43:02
  called Abuja Technology Village. Abuja Technology Village.
• 43:10
  When I joined, I showed their financial statements.
• 43:15
  Then the account is not robust the way I want it.
• 43:20
  This is your public sector, yes, yes, but then how do you feel
• 43:26
  moving from private sector to public sector like?
• 43:29
  Thank you. I love it.
• 43:31
  I don't want to say too much, but then I don't want public
• 43:34
  sector. That is like let me just see
• 43:36
  like a lot of inefficiencies that how did you help them?
• 43:42
  Surprisingly. Surprisingly, I I left the
• 43:49
  public space because it is that is going on over there.
• 43:54
  I will share my experience. With that coming.
• 43:57
  While working in an NGO. You.
• 44:00
  Know the amount given to me is sufficient but I received a pay
• 44:07
  increase from Abuja Technology village a TV so I was attracted
• 44:13
  with that amount. Getting their their account is
• 44:17
  not a robust as I want. I ensure that I put the account
• 44:20
  up to date, but funny things that is going on, there is a in
• 44:25
  public sector, the Auditor General will come, the public
• 44:30
  account committee you need to go and even many things like that.
• 44:35
  That is not the problem, but you know the issue.
• 44:42
  I cannot contend with that. In fact there was experience
• 44:45
  because it's a public organisation.
• 44:48
  We have account with CB. We have accounts with CB and in
• 44:53
  the past before I joined the hardly reconcile that account in
• 44:57
  CBM. But I said no I I was.
• 45:02
  I was employed as finance and account lead.
• 45:05
  I'm the number one person finance there.
• 45:08
  I have a colleague of yours. Oladipupo laddish.
• 45:14
  Ohh wow. Together.
• 45:16
  He's my staff there in a TV, so. All at the football we work
• 45:23
  together and ask him please go and get me the bank statement,
• 45:28
  let's reconcile. From CBA.
• 45:31
  The bank statement was brought before us.
• 45:33
  We started our reconciliation. We.
• 45:35
  Just noticed that there are millions of naira catered away
• 45:40
  from the bank statements. Immediately, I went to the
• 45:45
  managing director. Mrs Away, a Bunny and I told her
• 45:51
  ma. There are some money that moved
• 45:54
  out of this account. I'm not aware of it.
• 45:58
  And what happened. She was shocked as well.
• 46:01
  She's not aware of it as well. And you know me as an external
• 46:08
  auditor with audit experience. I need to dig further.
• 46:12
  And immediately, said Examiner. Immediately I go to the CBN.
• 46:20
  I told them I want to see the mandate that brought that money
• 46:23
  out. I got a copy.
• 46:26
  I go to the police station, report the matter because the
• 46:31
  copy of what I got. I saw a signature of a signatory
• 46:36
  to the accounts. The managing director was a
• 46:39
  signatory to the account. Mike wish Let me just spend the
• 46:45
  second name because we have many Mic.
• 46:48
  Mr Mike. To the account and.
• 46:53
  Like. Surprisingly, if forge the
• 46:58
  signature of the MD, use his own signature and also forge my
• 47:05
  handwriting. You know I'm not a secretary,
• 47:08
  but I'll be the one to prepare the mandate just for the MD and
• 47:13
  himself to sign. So he followed my handwriting.
• 47:18
  It is so. Signature.
• 47:19
  And these things came through at the CBN we are talking about
• 47:24
  almost 68,000,000 then I think in 2015.
• 47:31
  Hmm. So what I did immediately, I
• 47:36
  talked to the If police want to work, they will work for you
• 47:39
  diligently. They.
• 47:41
  Track his number, we are able to track him to where he is.
• 47:44
  They picked him up but surprising thing that I want to
• 47:47
  bring on bodies at a A an internal auditor of the
• 47:53
  organisation now went to the police station where they said
• 47:57
  they should lock me up to. I was I was married.
• 48:00
  I said is it not me that brought this to use people attention.
• 48:05
  Have you been reconciling your statement before What my
• 48:08
  intervention has finance and account lead made us to be
• 48:12
  reconciled this account and you are.
• 48:14
  So if I'm part of it I would not expose this.
• 48:17
  I told the police. Even the police people are
• 48:19
  saying is your signal, your handwriting is 1, the user said.
• 48:23
  My writing was forged. So are you saying I collided
• 48:27
  with the corporates? That should not happen that the
• 48:32
  moment you decide that you will lock me up in the police station
• 48:36
  I will escalate this to the extent that the presidency and
• 48:39
  the the people that are in Nigeria we hear about this
• 48:42
  because I saw, I saw the flood and and and escalated the fraud.
• 48:49
  So at the end of the day the police now said they should
• 48:52
  allow me to go. So the moment they are able to
• 48:56
  get hold of the corporates and in Spain back gradually, I
• 49:00
  resign for that public space and go back to my NU.
• 49:05
  A lot of integrity issues, right?
• 49:08
  Because you know, in our professional integrity is one of
• 49:12
  the core values of of our profession, right?
• 49:15
  Professional behaviour, competence.
• 49:18
  Do you care? It is really difficult working
• 49:23
  in those kind of terrains. Wherein you know.
• 49:25
  That objectivity and integrity is likely to be impaired, but
• 49:29
  you know, big kudos to you for for the great work that you have
• 49:33
  been able to contribute, you know, in the difficult terrain
• 49:36
  of the Nigerian public public sector.
• 49:40
  But then, like, how did you get into?
• 49:43
  Lecturing. Thank you very much.
• 49:48
  Side by side. Thank you.
• 49:52
  I used to tell people that if. You want to make money.
• 49:57
  You can't rely on one particular job.
• 50:01
  Having just one salary is not sufficient for you to make
• 50:05
  money. And I think that is what you to
• 50:08
  invite in you that makes you to be who you are today, you.
• 50:14
  Can hear one. One salary and make it.
• 50:17
  He can only take care of necessity and what you need
• 50:20
  around you. So I works currently as a
• 50:24
  Director of Finance and Admin at health system.
• 50:28
  Consults health system consult is 1.
• 50:31
  Implementing the grants history in Sokoto, Zamfara, Kebbi with
• 50:38
  head office in Abuja. I also lectured with top notch
• 50:42
  learning centre and Director of study.
• 50:46
  I also have a consulting firm wish myself and my partner we
• 50:53
  are. They are consulting for clients
• 50:58
  that need our financial experts office at Maitama Theme Park
• 51:04
  Consulting. Now to your question, how do I
• 51:07
  start lecturing is a passion that I developed when I was in
• 51:14
  school. As I've said, God gave me some
• 51:18
  intellectual capability, to the extent that I used to understand
• 51:23
  whatever my lecturer. Just a glimpse of it.
• 51:28
  I will be able to develop more on it.
• 51:30
  So while in school we have a particular party.
• 51:36
  That used to produce the president for the departments
• 51:41
  and the the the school called mandates and I look at it that
• 51:45
  how can we take them off the seats.
• 51:50
  What I did before then I've started lecturing, teaching
• 51:54
  one-on-one with my colleagues, my friends, that doesn't
• 51:57
  understand what we learned in the class.
• 52:00
  But I now decided let me make it a full scale and use that to
• 52:05
  entice people. So I started lecturing and the
• 52:10
  one student in accounting insurance.
• 52:13
  So they, they, they, they, they, they, they they enjoyed the
• 52:17
  lecture. They were not well, in fact
• 52:20
  those courses that are giving them problem in the school I
• 52:24
  lecture them, they do well in the exam and they pass the exam
• 52:27
  with ease without getting into problem with the lecturers.
• 52:31
  So as a result that have increased my lecturing capacity
• 52:35
  and skill. So some of my lecturer also now
• 52:40
  observe that they asked me to assist them to lecture the
• 52:44
  junior class. You know, it happens in
• 52:46
  university. Where?
• 52:48
  You just become like unnamed assistant.
• 52:54
  Without the. Salary.
• 52:57
  God bless you. So you just do that.
• 53:00
  And not knowing that I'm increasing my capacity,
• 53:04
  preparing myself now, getting to serve I.
• 53:09
  Was working in the at the pension board as I've said
• 53:13
  earlier. But because of my passion for
• 53:17
  lecturing, I also look for a secondary school all.
• 53:22
  About the These Queens of Apostle Umbrella in Abia states
• 53:26
  in this sequel to Local Government and Lecture
• 53:29
  Accounting and Lecture Mathematics and also Economists,
• 53:35
  she likes to lecture or teach. OK, either of the two.
• 53:38
  Because in secondary school is teaching, so I thought they were
• 53:42
  discourses. It boosts my lecturing capacity
• 53:46
  as well. The moment we now finish service
• 53:51
  immediately I wrote for my AC. So during the course of
• 53:56
  receiving lecture, I also lecture some of my friend to the
• 54:00
  extent that we will not finish the AC.
• 54:04
  I started my lecturing with Pratima in Lagos, then that was
• 54:11
  employed when I came to Abuja. I continued my lecturing with
• 54:15
  Grating and the final quest. Finacle is also an AC lecturing
• 54:21
  centre, so sometimes we not decide that we will have our own
• 54:26
  and then we inform the MDC or brought him that in a dire time
• 54:32
  we'll be moving to have our own tuition centre.
• 54:36
  Myself, Mr Chimuka is a rebel FC, FC, UH and many other
• 54:43
  qualification because of time and also Mr which your four FC,
• 54:48
  Mr Ginger Jiji FC and OSAS you bless him us and blessed memory.
• 54:59
  It's a deal with me. I, building Desmond would have
• 55:03
  decided to form top notch learning centre which I was the
• 55:07
  pioneer director of study. Until now I'm the director of
• 55:11
  study. I've asked them to give me
• 55:12
  another rule, but they said I should stay.
• 55:16
  I for sure will. So we now started lecturing.
• 55:21
  People get qualified even. With the courses that give
• 55:27
  students. Mirage FM and corporate
• 55:30
  reporting, we are able to demystify it and people pass as
• 55:34
  if there's no tomorrow. So from there, we believe that
• 55:38
  times will not be like this forever, will not decide to
• 55:41
  bring ones and. Tutor them, Mentor them.
• 55:44
  How to become electoral yourself.
• 55:47
  Joshua. Early days.
• 55:51
  We have UH Gabriel, which saw and Lasisi Sunday Feliz among
• 56:00
  others that have become. Chartered accountant and a
• 56:04
  renowned lecturers now. So that's sorry.
• 56:07
  Sorry to interrupt you. You know, like that that that's,
• 56:10
  you know, phase of my life, that part of my life is something I
• 56:13
  always appreciate so much and you know putting you on the spot
• 56:17
  telling you right now I'm very, very big on gratitude, right.
• 56:21
  I would like to say, you know thank you very much for that
• 56:24
  opportunity, right. Because.
• 56:25
  For. Me.
• 56:26
  It gave me the opportunity to be able to express myself, to be
• 56:29
  able to utilise my gift, to write my talent.
• 56:32
  You know of communication, right?
• 56:34
  Because for me communication has always been my thing.
• 56:37
  But then I was now opportunity to be a finance professional.
• 56:40
  So putting it together, it's helped me.
• 56:43
  He gave me a platform to be able to utilise my gift, my talent,
• 56:48
  right And that is the reason why I have still not left the the
• 56:52
  what's our group? Because I.
• 56:55
  Was part of the. Family, regardless of whether I
• 56:57
  have still. Yeah, that's right.
• 57:01
  So really, being a teacher is something that.
• 57:04
  I I very, very much appreciate as a person and interestingly.
• 57:08
  You know, when I came to the UK, the very first time I attended
• 57:11
  church in the UK, I saw somebody who told me, ohh, I know you,
• 57:15
  you taught me Nigeria. I was like, wow, the keypad that
• 57:22
  you have. You know, as a as a teacher is
• 57:24
  something that is very, very phenomenal.
• 57:27
  It's phenomenal how you you change people's lives just by
• 57:31
  impacting knowledge in them. So I am very grateful once more.
• 57:36
  Sorry for the. Almost welcome.
• 57:40
  You are, you are, you are. You are testing that this what
• 57:45
  I'm saying is factual because you are a living testimony and
• 57:49
  many others and when you are electoral you are very happy.
• 57:53
  You may be in a mall, somebody will pay for you.
• 57:56
  You may be many places aside from payment you have a self
• 58:00
  fulfilment life. You live a self fulfilled life.
• 58:03
  In fact, talking like you have said, as a communication expert,
• 58:07
  now you you find it easy, it's flow easily, you that will stand
• 58:12
  in a class to lecture for 10 hours.
• 58:14
  So is it this communication of anything that you do for one
• 58:17
  hour or two hours that will be a problem?
• 58:19
  No, it comes, it flow naturally. You hardly get tired because you
• 58:25
  connect your nose when to talk, the diction, when to stop, when
• 58:30
  not to talk, when to listen and when to react.
• 58:34
  So I'm happy that you are one of us and you are still one of us.
• 58:39
  That is the reason why you are UK today.
• 58:43
  That's the reason why you see on the WhatsApp lecturing platform
• 58:47
  of corporate reporting, financial reporting and
• 58:49
  financial accounting team and we are proud having you as one of
• 58:55
  us. Thank.
• 58:55
  You very much. I'm happy, yes.
• 58:58
  When? When, when?
• 58:59
  When your mentees, you are a mentor to other people now, so
• 59:05
  you have moved from the level of mentee to mentor.
• 59:10
  So it's just that we would not be bad mentor.
• 59:15
  By the. That's what the lighter note So
• 59:19
  that's how the electorate or teaching career has been is from
• 59:24
  the. Do the best Polytechnic this to
• 59:28
  this present moment. Wow.
• 59:30
  Interesting. So what?
• 59:31
  Like, what would you say have been the highs and lows?
• 59:33
  Of your of your career so far? OK, when it comes to the
• 59:38
  challenge, yes I will. I will.
• 59:41
  It's too, you know, as a lecturer and professional
• 59:45
  practise. Let me start with lecturing the
• 59:47
  highs at. We had induction of starting
• 59:54
  with 67 Chartered Accountant. We move to 87 Chartered
• 59:58
  Accountant, we moved to 101 Chartered accountant each diet
• 1:00:03
  we keep increasing and the last diet we have 101 Chartered
• 1:00:08
  accountant making it the 12th induction ceremony, ambassador
• 1:00:12
  induction ceremony where we have nothing less than.
• 1:00:17
  It's council members. Hmm.
• 1:00:22
  Guessing that occasion 8 council members is the highest ever.
• 1:00:28
  In. Fact the second deputy Vice
• 1:00:30
  President of ICA Imposing of AJA sufferer to Segue Simia MNI FC
• 1:00:37
  and all the treasurer of the great Institute of Chartered
• 1:00:40
  Accountants of Nigeria and many other council members were
• 1:00:44
  present at that induction. I think it has never happened
• 1:00:49
  like that in any tuition centre in Nigeria and it was televised
• 1:00:53
  by TV. To hold head this I think that
• 1:00:58
  alone we are happy and also our produce.
• 1:01:03
  A Senator our produce and as of Right member and have also
• 1:01:08
  produced a Chairman of Federal Inland Revenue.
• 1:01:11
  So. I.
• 1:01:13
  Think. For the lecturing career, where?
• 1:01:15
  Where? We are happy.
• 1:01:17
  We are gonna place us and we are hope that's where singling
• 1:01:21
  places that's the down aspect of it is where I have you know.
• 1:01:30
  Human beings are different when I have one of my mentee, you
• 1:01:35
  know, in Joshua. You naked, That's your youth.
• 1:01:38
  We have UJ. We have J great guys.
• 1:01:45
  You girl. I brought him to an.
• 1:01:48
  Organisation. Where I work in an EU, doesn't
• 1:01:53
  have. Experience of equal.
• 1:01:55
  Packaging got a good job. Something happened in the
• 1:01:58
  organisation. E Because he's a lecturer in Top
• 1:02:05
  Notch and he played a significant role because
• 1:02:11
  something happened in the organisation, he now he told me
• 1:02:14
  that he cannot lecture in Top Notch again I.
• 1:02:20
  Felt bad because there was a gap, but you know me as a
• 1:02:24
  person. Immediately, I called the
• 1:02:27
  Gabriel. Wisher said.
• 1:02:29
  This is a guy I know you can do it, and you have to do spirit.
• 1:02:33
  Fill the gap and let no student feel that there is a gap and
• 1:02:38
  with. Almighty God he was.
• 1:02:42
  Able to fill that gap and that same time is when you are going
• 1:02:46
  for good, you are going to UK that time.
• 1:02:49
  So I have. That big?
• 1:02:51
  Gap. But.
• 1:02:53
  With God almighty, Gabriel rose to that occasion.
• 1:02:57
  So that is the aspect of it when Gabriel for for for
• 1:03:08
  professional. Yes, I told you about Abuja
• 1:03:14
  Technology village. There is another one that
• 1:03:17
  happens. At the Ty Danjuma.
• 1:03:23
  There is some financial misappropriation that I I
• 1:03:29
  quickly raise alarm off but the board could not look at it
• 1:03:35
  because they thought I am giving wrong information.
• 1:03:39
  But it's not up to two months that I left.
• 1:03:42
  They need to sack the. CU and say, oh what I've said,
• 1:03:45
  I've actually had their writing, but they failed to listen to me
• 1:03:50
  as at that time. But when that did it, they were
• 1:03:53
  able to see that yes this is a fraudulent activities but they
• 1:03:59
  can't come back to come and say oh we are sorry this is what you
• 1:04:03
  are actually saying. We are able to get to the root
• 1:04:06
  of the matter. So that is in the professional
• 1:04:09
  practise, you know, accounting job.
• 1:04:11
  To be director of finance or finance manager you need to be
• 1:04:15
  very very careful even when you didn't want to.
• 1:04:20
  Even when you didn't want to perpetrate fraud, you will ask
• 1:04:24
  somebody below you or above you that perpetrator and you cannot
• 1:04:28
  exonerate yourself. You need to be very very careful
• 1:04:31
  if fraud is perpetrated the first person organisation they
• 1:04:35
  will pick up easy finance is the finance manager or director of
• 1:04:38
  finance at the case. May be before they would
• 1:04:41
  investigate that you are not part of that fraudulent
• 1:04:45
  transaction. Thanks, will have gone so.
• 1:04:48
  Always. Safeguard yourself and ensure
• 1:04:50
  that this job you are doing as a Director of Finance is a
• 1:04:53
  delicate job. You need to deploy professional
• 1:04:56
  competency as and UK as our ethics demand so So what would?
• 1:05:02
  You say have been the. Highest.
• 1:05:04
  You've actually talked about the loss.
• 1:05:06
  Yeah, the eyes is. I was a.
• 1:05:11
  I. Rose to the point of become a
• 1:05:14
  director of finance and admin on the USAID funded project and
• 1:05:18
  also a director of. Audits in the CDC funded
• 1:05:24
  projects The head of audit CDC funded projects.
• 1:05:29
  The Head of finance in USAI. D.
• 1:05:31
  Project And these are the two big funder in the whole NGO
• 1:05:35
  space. So that has been there for me.
• 1:05:39
  Umm, so, So what? What great things?
• 1:05:41
  Would you say you're most? Proud of, you know in life
• 1:05:44
  generally. Like what are those things?
• 1:05:46
  What happened? The greatest I would've.
• 1:05:48
  Said I'm proud of is you and. Many others.
• 1:05:53
  Have made to become a lecturer and can speak anywhere, any day,
• 1:05:59
  anytime. I.
• 1:06:03
  Feel honoured. I feel honoured.
• 1:06:05
  I feel honoured to, to be honest, right.
• 1:06:07
  But then, like, how's the journey being, you know,
• 1:06:09
  balancing, you know, career and family?
• 1:06:12
  Like has it been work? Like my life like.
• 1:06:17
  How do you achieve? I think, I think I.
• 1:06:20
  Have a little gap there, I will be sincere.
• 1:06:23
  With you, I have a little gap. I bought.
• 1:06:26
  I've told myself in 2025 I will correct all the gap.
• 1:06:31
  I think I married somebody. I will call my sister, my junior
• 1:06:35
  brother, my junior sister, my mommy, because she understands I
• 1:06:42
  was unable to balance the home. I must be factual but when it
• 1:06:47
  comes to work, I did my work diligently lecturing give my
• 1:06:51
  best. But when it comes to the home,
• 1:06:53
  my wife understands. I live.
• 1:06:55
  I live home several am. Sometimes I come back home 9 PM,
• 1:07:01
  10:00 PM. The children will have slept.
• 1:07:04
  She took care of the home front, but the weekend that I supposed
• 1:07:08
  to be with them as well Several AM 8.
• 1:07:12
  I'm here at the lecture ground to lecture students of recent
• 1:07:17
  because I've. Developed some lecturers, so I
• 1:07:22
  now I spent two hours on Saudi Sunday.
• 1:07:26
  You know we. Stand lecture by 12:00 so I will
• 1:07:29
  have some three hours four hours to bond.
• 1:07:32
  With the children, but to me I know it's not sufficient and my
• 1:07:36
  wife know that it's not deliberate.
• 1:07:38
  So in 2025, since I have many lecturers now in my foods, I
• 1:07:44
  cannot have time just to get there and put my blessing.
• 1:07:48
  Whatever they are doing and dot the eyes are crossed the tea.
• 1:07:53
  So I will, I will, I will not like to you, I've not been
• 1:07:57
  balancing the home front. Most of my time is for the
• 1:08:01
  lecturing and for the official work.
• 1:08:03
  But this holiday I promised. Them and I fulfil my promise.
• 1:08:08
  They spent two weeks with me. We bonded together.
• 1:08:12
  Play what actually you do. Play sneaker ladder.
• 1:08:16
  Play Scrabble together for two weeks I took.
• 1:08:19
  Them to my hometown. In a charade, your promotion and
• 1:08:23
  we went to our people, went to many places.
• 1:08:26
  I bonded with them for two weeks.
• 1:08:27
  We just returned back from our trip, so IN2025I.
• 1:08:31
  Said. I will see him.
• 1:08:33
  Prove that and give more attention to family, less
• 1:08:36
  attention to lecture and work. We are not getting younger, we
• 1:08:40
  are getting older the. Deputy and he it's, I think
• 1:08:46
  maybe just to make you happy in some ways right.
• 1:08:49
  And the fact that your sacrifice, you know, towards
• 1:08:53
  developing other people is actually paying off, it should
• 1:08:58
  be some sort of compensation to yes, you see, you see.
• 1:09:03
  You see the great impact you've made in, you know, the lives of
• 1:09:06
  persons like myself and you know.
• 1:09:08
  Numerous other people out there. I.
• 1:09:11
  Hope that you know these these success is.
• 1:09:14
  Actually to keep you going and you know.
• 1:09:18
  Also also glad that you are making it up, you know on the
• 1:09:22
  home front at this point in time, so for.
• 1:09:26
  For the next question, you it's it is about like your the highs
• 1:09:30
  and lows of your personal life. But before we get to that, right
• 1:09:33
  I me know you personally and you haven't been my lecturer.
• 1:09:37
  You know, at some point I I see how you used to bring in.
• 1:09:42
  Personal stories of your life. In order to.
• 1:09:46
  Help people understand. The.
• 1:09:49
  Principles. The concepts that you teach in
• 1:09:52
  accounting and finance, right? Are there.
• 1:09:54
  Like Eddie, You know stories of your life you're willing to
• 1:09:57
  share on this podcast that you feel would.
• 1:10:00
  Be a great lesson for young people's rights to learn for or
• 1:10:05
  to learn from. Rather, you know things that
• 1:10:08
  happen to you. Personally, that form to your
• 1:10:11
  highs and lows in life and, you know, moderate you as a person
• 1:10:15
  and you kept you going. Yes, thank you very much.
• 1:10:20
  We we branch on it the other time, but I will just.
• 1:10:23
  Give it full flesh. Now in life things are not
• 1:10:28
  always straightforward like that, but keep this principle.
• 1:10:33
  Too. Had a good attitude towards
• 1:10:38
  anybody you meet in your life. Good attitude and prayerful with
• 1:10:44
  that God. We always made that way where
• 1:10:49
  you think there is no way. In fact, with good.
• 1:10:53
  Attitude and good attitude is when.
• 1:10:56
  You see some people. That are needs and you give them
• 1:11:00
  things. They didn't ask for it, but you
• 1:11:03
  know that they are in need. You give them many I need today
• 1:11:09
  make it true little I give to them and I'm going to wear You
• 1:11:15
  are asking the question I'm just.
• 1:11:16
  Laying the background the moment you are giving, the moment you
• 1:11:22
  give. To the needy.
• 1:11:24
  You are lovely suffer. Even when it's has some some
• 1:11:31
  plots from the enemy or some plot from the bad people, you
• 1:11:36
  will never fall into it because God in his finished mercy we
• 1:11:40
  look at it. No, not this.
• 1:11:42
  My, my my my beloved that. Is helping people.
• 1:11:46
  Either they asked or they did not ask.
• 1:11:49
  He used his own church mind or most mind to to help.
• 1:11:53
  So this trap you are setting this person would not fall into.
• 1:11:58
  It. Where am I going?
• 1:12:00
  You see? With good attitude, I was able
• 1:12:04
  to sponsor my academic to a PhD level and I know that that's the
• 1:12:09
  highest level. Of education.
• 1:12:12
  With good attitude, I was able to see that.
• 1:12:20
  Is where you work hard. Have good mind ensure that other
• 1:12:27
  people around you are happy. Feeds them off with one job or
• 1:12:33
  the other. Today I can tell you nothing
• 1:12:38
  less than 50. Jobs, nothing less.
• 1:12:41
  Than are fees. One or two people, some I did
• 1:12:44
  not even remember again. But if I did not do that.
• 1:12:48
  Other people will do it. We'll have the.
• 1:12:51
  Opportunity and I'm doing it, so it's assists.
• 1:12:56
  In my family, I would like to inform you it's not that we are
• 1:12:59
  brilliant, but we hardly me and my family hardly go to hospital.
• 1:13:06
  We are. I always travel.
• 1:13:09
  But God always prevents me from accident.
• 1:13:13
  Is not that I'm very. Special but.
• 1:13:15
  I knew that those good things you are trying to do to people
• 1:13:20
  that face that they did not ask for it, but you know that they
• 1:13:23
  are in need. Don't wait for them to ask.
• 1:13:25
  And you are doing it. God will use that to protect
• 1:13:30
  you. Straightforward in my.
• 1:13:32
  Career. I work in an organisation where
• 1:13:37
  a director of finance was arrested by.
• 1:13:41
  Police. Though I'm not the director of
• 1:13:43
  finance, I'm the head of all the internal compliance.
• 1:13:49
  They kept him. In custody for four days and.
• 1:13:56
  The owner of the the the the CEO.
• 1:13:57
  Of the organisation have she has that reckless way of addressing
• 1:14:03
  staff. In fact, many staff cannot look
• 1:14:07
  up to her and challenge her same.
• 1:14:11
  Thing she want to apply to the extent that.
• 1:14:13
  She brought in a DS to come and pick me up, but.
• 1:14:18
  Because God in His finite mercy, is higher than anybody the day
• 1:14:26
  She. Plotted it they.
• 1:14:28
  Said I would not leave the compound immediately.
• 1:14:31
  I I I lodge the complaint to AIG's office in Moses Zone Zone
• 1:14:37
  7. Zone Zone 3 AIG Office that's in
• 1:14:45
  my. Organisation.
• 1:14:47
  I was instructed that the CEO said that you know, go live out
• 1:14:50
  of the gate and have already close.
• 1:14:52
  This is 520 and my closing time is 5:00 PM.
• 1:14:57
  But we got the DSS could not mobilise to come and pick me for
• 1:15:04
  unknown offence. I left the second day I came to
• 1:15:10
  office. I documented that.
• 1:15:14
  That. My right was trampled upon not
• 1:15:17
  to leave the premises. For what I did not know anything
• 1:15:20
  about. The CEO did not answer.
• 1:15:23
  And she did not reply my mail on the 5th full day.
• 1:15:27
  The next two weeks because they have been plotting.
• 1:15:31
  And. They want the DSS to come.
• 1:15:33
  And you know. DSS that they are plotting to
• 1:15:36
  come is a legal duty. You can only use CSS when
• 1:15:39
  somebody want to topple the the, the, the, the, the, the
• 1:15:44
  government of that time during that period because that's my
• 1:15:49
  statement in a police station, topple the government or cause a
• 1:15:54
  problem to Nigeria sovereignty. But when is office matter?
• 1:16:00
  I think it's a civil case. You go to police station to
• 1:16:03
  report. So I've reported to the police
• 1:16:07
  it did she wants. Me to.
• 1:16:09
  Share a session on the. No, no, no, no.
• 1:16:14
  SOP reviews, and that's a way. She did that the same thing she
• 1:16:20
  did when the person I called Director of finance was sharing
• 1:16:25
  a meeting before a police came to pick him and they allow him
• 1:16:28
  to stay for four days. Same thing was applied to me.
• 1:16:33
  I was asked to share a particular SP review meeting.
• 1:16:39
  I didn't know what happened and this.
• 1:16:43
  I have not. Done that before.
• 1:16:45
  It's something just asked me. To stroll out, I picked my car.
• 1:16:49
  Stroll out coming back. DSS is already in front of our
• 1:16:54
  office with their pickup. One person drive the other
• 1:16:58
  person by the driver side have a gun, two other person at the
• 1:17:02
  back with gun so that they will pick me and put me in the
• 1:17:06
  middle. Well, I saw them.
• 1:17:08
  I greeted them the security. That I used to give money.
• 1:17:13
  To that said, Uh, these people. Are here this but I would I
• 1:17:20
  would not allow them to enter because the Chief security
• 1:17:23
  officer is not around and they ask that they want to see HR
• 1:17:31
  person. The HR person was will point to
• 1:17:34
  somebody. They will pick.
• 1:17:36
  You're not. Going to my head that.
• 1:17:39
  So I want to enter immediately. I turn back and I go to zone 7
• 1:17:44
  and says. This I'm suspecting.
• 1:17:48
  Actually. Materialise Police Station in
• 1:17:51
  police a IG office 07 now decides to write.
• 1:17:58
  I invite the CEO to the police station and this is how we are
• 1:18:03
  able to settle the world because they.
• 1:18:06
  Told her that I'm doing my job as a compliance director because
• 1:18:10
  if anything goes wrong, the FCC will first speak me before they
• 1:18:14
  pick anybody in the organisation has compliance.
• 1:18:17
  So they ask compliance and. So.
• 1:18:20
  These are what actually I would say that in the career is the
• 1:18:26
  downside of it but as I finance person you.
• 1:18:32
  Always. Expect this, but Please ensure
• 1:18:36
  you do play professional competence and due care.
• 1:18:38
  Your creativity is standing out. Your integrity is standing out.
• 1:18:43
  Your your professional behaviour is second to none.
• 1:18:47
  This. Will protect you.
• 1:18:49
  Interested Vantastic. Work so.
• 1:18:53
  What? What skills are our competences?
• 1:18:55
  Do you think you have right or people do not know about ohh
• 1:19:01
  you're really? Proud of.
• 1:19:03
  I mean. A real I'm proud to be a good MC
• 1:19:08
  of a programme. But many of you did not know
• 1:19:10
  that I'm a good MC. Yeah, so that is one of the
• 1:19:17
  skill. Umm a good driver.
• 1:19:19
  I I think at Abuja to Lagos which is 678 kilometre are
• 1:19:28
  through the road not less than 28 times or more than that.
• 1:19:32
  So to Lagos are coming back. I'm a good.
• 1:19:36
  Driver and also I'm a good swimmer.
• 1:19:40
  Many of you are not aware of that.
• 1:19:42
  I'm a good swimmer, Phillips. Michael Phelps of Nigeria It's
• 1:19:51
  just it's picking up on a good MC.
• 1:19:54
  I know that you are a good MC. I think you know why you used to
• 1:19:58
  teach us back in the days. I used like a lot of interesting
• 1:20:03
  stories to illustrate your point.
• 1:20:06
  I remember 1. The Rhapsody.
• 1:20:08
  Rhapsody. City.
• 1:20:11
  Today. You said one or two of this.
• 1:20:16
  You know, for these stories, you know.
• 1:20:21
  Please. OK, let me do that of Raceday
• 1:20:26
  dead. OK, one of it I think in Uniben
• 1:20:31
  there is a friend of us that are the gates.
• 1:20:35
  Many people that go to university will understand what
• 1:20:37
  I mean by the gate is a popular place that students reside.
• 1:20:43
  There is a guy called. Chinedu.
• 1:20:46
  He attended the living was its pastor, Christchurch Living
• 1:20:54
  Faith No World. Yes, Christ Embassy.
• 1:21:01
  So yes, yes, there is. A magazine or quarterly release
• 1:21:10
  or monthly release. Core Rhapsody and Pastor Chris
• 1:21:14
  is a doctor. He would not expect any of his
• 1:21:18
  member to do that. You can.
• 1:21:19
  Sir. But not during the time we'll be
• 1:21:22
  having lecture in the class. You just see the Chinedu at the
• 1:21:26
  gate saying bye day today, bye bye.
• 1:21:38
  Ohh, not that she didn't do. Please.
• 1:21:41
  It's not the time that you're supposed to be selling Rapsody.
• 1:21:45
  We're in class. I'm moving here today into the
• 1:21:48
  realm of first class Plus and believe me you he came out with
• 1:21:55
  pass. He's not doing the right.
• 1:22:00
  Thing at the right. Time selling Rhapsody is good,
• 1:22:03
  but not where you need to be in class.
• 1:22:06
  The other one is our friend is an artist, we are a uniben.
• 1:22:12
  All four is. An artist, he used to know how
• 1:22:14
  to draw people. When he sees you, he will draw
• 1:22:18
  you within 10 minutes and that joy will look, that image will
• 1:22:23
  look through of yourself so funny.
• 1:22:26
  In that game and show us. 2 Queen Maker.
• 1:22:34
  Chukwuemeka. Having concert in worry.
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  America, you that we know. That you are an artist.
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  Yes, you are a real artist, but not artists of displaying or
• 1:22:48
  holding concerts To be a musician, no, he said.
• 1:22:51
  Forget bio amanatidis. This is when I look at it.
• 1:22:55
  That what your friend is doing. Good thing you need to mobilise.
• 1:22:59
  So we now work together to worry.
• 1:23:03
  They not give the. Mike to our friend to start
• 1:23:07
  saying we too we are home. Where, Where?
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  Where? Where carrying our shoulder high
• 1:23:12
  that our friends about to see so many.
• 1:23:15
  People, they put on a special place.
• 1:23:17
  They gave you. Mike took America to sing.
• 1:23:20
  He collected the mic. Hello.
• 1:23:23
  Hello everybody. Look at you now.
• 1:23:26
  My name is Chukwuemeka Theses Singh.
• 1:23:28
  Your name is in the poster. We are aware of it that day.
• 1:23:37
  So he started to to get to, to get them to, to get everybody
• 1:23:43
  to, to get to, to get to the next thing.
• 1:23:46
  Found. They fly for nights.
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  Found. No, they fly for night.
• 1:23:49
  If you fly for night, they will kill our shop.
• 1:23:51
  We carry our head. Worry people.
• 1:23:53
  Carry what? Before we knew, it was
• 1:23:57
  hospitalised at Uni Venus, which we took, carried him.
• 1:24:01
  We escape ourselves. So at this second day he said in
• 1:24:05
  the hospital. And I said, she told you that
• 1:24:09
  you're supposed to put us in this disgrace and see what they
• 1:24:12
  have done to you now. Is he?
• 1:24:17
  What Arsenal is he? Is he not correct?
• 1:24:20
  Have you seen any Found that fly in the night?
• 1:24:22
  I said yes, you are. But if you love place, so does.
• 1:24:31
  That Wow. Wow.
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  Wow. Totally.
• 1:24:38
  Flat for that, really, if you fly Killer show.
• 1:24:44
  He's thinking in school days where we just carry people
• 1:24:48
  power, use it to maintain ourselves, we go forgive
• 1:24:54
  everyone of us. I was gonna.
• 1:24:57
  Actually, like what are your hobbies and you know your
• 1:24:59
  personal interests. Like anytime you have free time
• 1:25:01
  like what do you like to you know, one of my office is what
• 1:25:04
  I'm. Doing like lecturing.
• 1:25:09
  Also sleeping. Hmm, interesting.
• 1:25:14
  Yeah, it is good for the health. But look, yeah, if I have time,
• 1:25:20
  I love. Sleeping.
• 1:25:21
  Yes. Ohh.
• 1:25:23
  Wow. Interesting.
• 1:25:23
  I I know you. You're.
• 1:25:24
  Really good with playing table tennis.
• 1:25:27
  Yes, I'm very good at playing table tennis.
• 1:25:29
  As well if I have that time, but it's not my hobby.
• 1:25:33
  OK, it's not my hobby. You have to play it very well.
• 1:25:37
  But it's not my hobby. Interesting.
• 1:25:40
  So. The last question from me to
• 1:25:42
  you, right. OK.
• 1:25:44
  Before I ask you the last question, from me to you my my
• 1:25:48
  executive. Assistant likes to.
• 1:25:50
  Ask Right. She is a very big believer in
• 1:25:54
  black excellence, right? So she likes to ask, who are
• 1:25:58
  those, you know, black people in society?
• 1:26:01
  On a global level that you admire and like, who are those
• 1:26:05
  black women you know in society that are doing well, that you
• 1:26:10
  appreciate, you know and you admire and would like to to talk
• 1:26:14
  about briefly. Thank you very much.
• 1:26:18
  Admire 3 black men in the whole world, Two are.
• 1:26:26
  Late. One is.
• 1:26:27
  Still A. Living person one of them have
• 1:26:31
  mentioned empty were Bella to a blessed memory.
• 1:26:35
  Second posing in Nelson Mandela blessed memory.
• 1:26:41
  The third is. Our current.
• 1:26:42
  President Bola Ahmed. I'm not an APC stalwart.
• 1:26:51
  I'm not a physician. But you know the people that.
• 1:26:57
  Knows the, knows follow. Them they are knowledgeable like
• 1:27:01
  you in lecturing or myself in lecturing.
• 1:27:03
  When it comes to I can I type my student?
• 1:27:06
  Gonna say we are the icon. It means you know the subject
• 1:27:11
  and you know. You know people must will follow
• 1:27:14
  you because they know that you know and you also know that you
• 1:27:18
  know. So to him is funny enough.
• 1:27:23
  Is a chartered accountant. Is a professional.
• 1:27:25
  Accountant as well, and also we know by His Grace, with the
• 1:27:30
  economy reform before the end of this year since will be falling.
• 1:27:35
  Into shape. What?
• 1:27:38
  What? Are spread over 20 years.
• 1:27:40
  Cannot. Just be revamped within one
• 1:27:44
  year, but I think things will get better.
• 1:27:47
  That's for for the UH leaders. When it comes to female.
• 1:27:55
  I didn't know why, but she she's late as well.
• 1:27:59
  I have one late and also a living one.
• 1:28:03
  Professor Dora quietly. Ohh.
• 1:28:08
  You agree with me? That she's a legend that.
• 1:28:14
  Yes, we want to. Stabilise Nigeria Drug and other
• 1:28:20
  artists but unfortunately we lost our very, very passionate.
• 1:28:29
  Very. Very passionate indeed.
• 1:28:32
  And for the second person is meeting number.
• 1:28:41
  Why when he was a? Senator.
• 1:28:43
  She always advocate for female gender based violence.
• 1:28:49
  She's part of those who supported to promulgate the
• 1:28:55
  gender based violence child rights.
• 1:28:59
  And many other. Things that has to do with
• 1:29:01
  female also she has attained a particular stage from Senator to
• 1:29:11
  the First Lady of Nigeria. Thank you.
• 1:29:15
  It's just the interesting SO. My own last question to you is
• 1:29:18
  what advice would you give to young people in general?
• 1:29:22
  In order to enable them to access or, I want to let the
• 1:29:26
  young people knows. That there is no shortcut to
• 1:29:30
  success. No shortcuts to success.
• 1:29:34
  Whatever you know, you are passion for.
• 1:29:36
  Go for it. Giving your best be.
• 1:29:40
  Persevere. The resilience and adopt these
• 1:29:43
  two things, attitude matters a lot.
• 1:29:46
  In fact, our young people, you know where I'm from, a Yoruba
• 1:29:50
  extraction in Nigeria we respect.
• 1:29:54
  A. Lot.
• 1:29:55
  And when you respect, you will see that people will respect you
• 1:30:00
  more. And it gives you that fulfilment
• 1:30:02
  that you didn't step on any toes.
• 1:30:05
  You, you. You, you, you, you.
• 1:30:08
  You are welcome. Should so attitude prayerful, is
• 1:30:13
  not by power, but by the grace of Almighty God.
• 1:30:17
  Also, whatever you know you are. Doing that you you are exactly
• 1:30:24
  you do it with ease. That is your area of core
• 1:30:28
  competency. Develop that area.
• 1:30:32
  Uh there is a Europa added that say Africa you work in Kodu into
• 1:30:39
  lap meaning that somebody that use force Yahoo.
• 1:30:45
  Yahoo. Yahoo Plus to look for money.
• 1:30:51
  They do. Still long.
• 1:30:53
  To enjoy. That money.
• 1:30:56
  There are many. Ways.
• 1:30:58
  To make it through the Internet, you can use your page, your blog
• 1:31:04
  and other things to make a legit money.
• 1:31:06
  Not using human being like your girlfriends to make money.
• 1:31:11
  It won't last. Long so that's my advice for the
• 1:31:14
  youth. Be persevere.
• 1:31:17
  Develop your skill. What You know you?
• 1:31:19
  Know how to do best, which is that we project you to the
• 1:31:23
  limelight. Thank you.
• 1:31:25
  Thank you very much, Sir. So at the end.
• 1:31:27
  Of the port we. Have a tradition during the
• 1:31:30
  previous guest leaves the question.
• 1:31:32
  For the next guest, right. And of course the current guests
• 1:31:36
  would leave the question for the next person.
• 1:31:39
  So the question I was there for you is from a chart of the
• 1:31:42
  content as well. She, she's a manager with PwC
• 1:31:45
  UK. She's a she, She's a career
• 1:31:49
  coach, right, and mentor and that is all red colour and then
• 1:31:55
  he wants to do. One question she asked for you,
• 1:32:00
  so she says if the person that has the solution to a major life
• 1:32:06
  problem that you have. It is a well known enemy of
• 1:32:11
  yours. That is, that person is enemy of
• 1:32:14
  yours, right? Would you?
• 1:32:17
  Go to the person for the solution.
• 1:32:21
  Or will you? Would you rather just lock up?
• 1:32:23
  What would you do? In that kind of.
• 1:32:25
  Situation, yeah. This is a great question, but to
• 1:32:33
  be sincere. I.
• 1:32:35
  Told you, I'm a politician, but I didn't play Nigerian politics.
• 1:32:38
  Maybe in the future I can, but for now I don't play it.
• 1:32:41
  But in politics no permanent. Enemy No.
• 1:32:46
  Permanent friends in politics? No.
• 1:32:50
  Permanent. Enemy and no permanent friend.
• 1:32:53
  I know other bukola will have put this question.
• 1:32:58
  To. Get.
• 1:33:00
  A an intellectual reaction, if I'm the one.
• 1:33:05
  I will tell. You.
• 1:33:06
  I will go. I made that.
• 1:33:11
  Because if you look at it. Before now, President Tinubu has
• 1:33:18
  an issue with the late accurate in some years back, but.
• 1:33:23
  He didn't. Allow that one to affect the
• 1:33:26
  relationship and the cement that relationship.
• 1:33:29
  They become friends. During his own election,
• 1:33:32
  Akeredolu and his team was able to deliver on those states.
• 1:33:35
  So there is no permanent enemy, no permanent friend.
• 1:33:41
  So to me to answer, I will go to that enemy to provide that
• 1:33:45
  solution because that enemy today will become fluent
• 1:33:49
  tomorrow. Who tells you that your friend
• 1:33:51
  today will? Not become enemy tomorrow.
• 1:33:55
  There are no. Covenant trends of fools.
• 1:33:59
  Interested. Interested.
• 1:34:01
  Articulate there you go. There you have the response to
• 1:34:04
  your question. So what question would you like
• 1:34:07
  to leave for the next guest? Sir, My own question is this.
• 1:34:12
  And is very dicey. Um, what weight?
• 1:34:18
  Will the. Next guests do.
• 1:34:22
  In this situation you have. A lady.
• 1:34:27
  That's. You love so.
• 1:34:29
  Well, but she. Loves you, but she's not.
• 1:34:33
  Showing you she. Loves you she not going to
• 1:34:36
  special prayer they told her that you have a.
• 1:34:41
  The Short Life to live on Earth. That's the only thing.
• 1:34:47
  She can do is to do. Fasting and prayer for 70 days
• 1:34:54
  and during this period there must not be any intimacy between
• 1:35:00
  you and that girlfriend, that is, you must not have had.
• 1:35:04
  Affairs with the girlfriends. So because of that, the lady now
• 1:35:07
  decide to hold up to herself and pretend that she she did not
• 1:35:10
  love you but praying for you. Our friends.
• 1:35:16
  Also. Have a.
• 1:35:18
  Problem where all the uh boyfriend or fiancee jittered
• 1:35:24
  her? Well, she disguised herself not
• 1:35:28
  to let people know that she's. From a wealthy?
• 1:35:30
  Family where the father have willed the estates and
• 1:35:35
  everything that has to do with her father, so the husband that
• 1:35:39
  will marry her. Now.
• 1:35:44
  The. Friend now decided to come and
• 1:35:46
  beg on behalf of that girlfriend you love, but she's not showing
• 1:35:50
  you love but she have internal love for you.
• 1:35:54
  Did not decide during the beg both of you.
• 1:35:58
  Now have connection and she wants to marry you.
• 1:36:04
  You want to marry her? She now goes home.
• 1:36:07
  Show you to the uncle people in possession.
• 1:36:10
  They will all the properties the dilemma I had.
• 1:36:19
  We are there we are. Coming, I've yet to complete it.
• 1:36:23
  All the property to you. It did some months to your
• 1:36:29
  wedding, then you now met. With.
• 1:36:33
  You and are now go to greet that your friend's girlfriend that do
• 1:36:37
  not show you that. She loves you.
• 1:36:39
  That girlfriend now? All these.
• 1:36:42
  Stories to you that. Now you now have enough life to
• 1:36:46
  live on earth. Who will you marry and?
• 1:36:50
  You have been told not to marry two wife.
• 1:37:00
  That's cool. The next guest has some serious
• 1:37:06
  work cut out for them. This is, this is.
• 1:37:11
  This is because the first one thank you to live.
• 1:37:14
  Longer on earth, the second one bring words to you.
• 1:37:21
  OK, interested. Interested.
• 1:37:23
  Thank you. Very much that Once again, in an
• 1:37:26
  attitude of gratitude, I cannot thank you enough for your time.
• 1:37:30
  If you do know Doctor Schreiber the Adebayor, he's a very, very
• 1:37:35
  busy man and in order to take out time from his schedule, I
• 1:37:39
  think I've been asking you for this podcast since last year and
• 1:37:42
  thank you very much for finally finding time off your very busy
• 1:37:46
  schedule to. To enlighten us and Share your
• 1:37:50
  story. Nobody, nobody, you know.
• 1:37:53
  Better to give an example off what we stand for, sharing these
• 1:37:58
  stories of ordinary people doing extraordinary things.
• 1:38:02
  You are a great. Example of that tagline and God
• 1:38:05
  bless you everything that you do.
• 1:38:07
  We should be very happy New Year and.
• 1:38:09
  You know, a great. Year ahead and you know, persons
• 1:38:12
  support you. Thank you very much for that.
• 1:38:14
  Once again, thank you. Man, Mighty Gust to everyone
• 1:38:21
  over there, continue to. Be doing the great job.
• 1:38:24
  We are happy with you. God will always be with you,
• 1:38:30
  man. Hey man.
• 1:38:31
  Do you want to give a shout out to anybody before you leave?
• 1:38:34
  I want to give a shout out to. The football, just to doctor.
• 1:38:42
  Oh. Oh, my professional colleagues
• 1:38:47
  They are formally. My.
• 1:38:48
  Student that have migrated to UK, US, Canada.
• 1:38:52
  Share out to everyone of you and also to our icon Presidents,
• 1:38:59
  Doctor Innocent, UKUSA, the 59th President of History of
• 1:39:04
  Chartered Accountants of Nigeria or the Presidency and ohh my top
• 1:39:12
  notch Ambassador. Shout out to everyone of you.
• 1:39:16
  OK. Thank you very much once.
• 1:39:17
  Again, Sir. For me it is goodbye.
• 1:39:19
  God bless everyone. Bye.
• 1:39:21
  Yeah. You are performing.
• 1:39:26
  Thank you.