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- 0:00It's the worldwide sports radio network.
- 0:05The Indiana Pacers defeated, the Oklahoma City Thunder yesterday
- 0:091 to 107. Led by Tyrese Halliburton who
- 0:13finished just shy of a triple double the Pacers.
- 0:16Continue to surprise and take a 2-1 lead into tomorrow, night's
- 0:20game 4 in. Indy, the Knicks keep getting
- 0:23rejected by teams for interviews with their coaches, do the
- 0:26Knicks have real candidates for the job or are they just hoping
- 0:29for the best after moving on from Tom Thibodeau their most
- 0:32successful coach in a quarter of a century?
- 0:34And before we make a call to the pain and dive inside baseball we
- 0:38will crack a six-pack with speedy and talk some Puck and
- 0:41here out a wild Cooper Flagg take Live on another jam-packed,
- 0:45Thursday night edition of java and the mouse.
- 1:18Giants. Take one Barkley at this point.
- 2:17Let's do it. 631 672, 302 Jabba and the mouth, my name is Arrow
- 2:37marks. My co-hosts.
- 2:39Java Chamberlain and the Speedster, Speedy peedy
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- 3:11website at www.world.com Joba Chamberlain is over there at the
- 3:19College World Series in Omaha. Omaha.
- 3:22Nebraska, how are you Java? Good.
- 3:26Just trying to set all this stuff up.
- 3:29Interesting. We're live right now.
- 3:31So let's go. Yeah, well, I see your life over
- 3:35there, and I'm sure you're getting the chance to see all
- 3:37the coaches. Some, I guess College, World,
- 3:40Series fans. I could only imagine the
- 3:43thousands of people that go and check out the College World
- 3:47Series every single year. And, and this year, it's over
- 3:50there in Nebraska. Omaha, Nebraska, I've never been
- 3:53to Omaha Nebraska, I heard there is actually, if I'm not
- 3:56mistaken, it's like a jake 50 over there.
- 3:58There's like a casino over there.
- 3:59Am I wrong about that? Yeah, they're technically in
- 4:03Iowa. Okay, I got it.
- 4:08I got it. So, Jabba's over there at No,
- 4:12just kidding Omaha. Nebraska at the College World
- 4:14Series. It's gonna be fun tonight.
- 4:16We might get some special guests, so I definitely stay
- 4:20tuned. I'm sure a lot of fans out
- 4:23there. That's never begun to the
- 4:24College World Series, or never experienced the College World
- 4:28Series. Well, hopefully, you'll get a
- 4:30chance to see some of the young guys.
- 4:32The young fans out there that love baseball and love Java
- 4:35chamber and maybe job all sign a couple autographs and and get to
- 4:39meet some of the future. MLB superstars that are going to
- 4:43Star at the College World Series.
- 4:45This coming here very, very interesting.
- 4:47And by the way, it is humid here in Long Island, New York, it's
- 4:5080 for to Greece. And tonight, the high will be
- 4:55around 80 degrees. So, very humid, very sticky,
- 4:58very disgusting. I don't like this time of year,
- 5:02I don't like this, whether Speedy, you know, I don't like
- 5:04this, whether it's absolutely horrendous and I'm actually
- 5:07experiencing earbuds in my ear. So, As you see, you're not going
- 5:13to see during the show, I've been dealing with some sound
- 5:17problems. So I will be wearing for now, on
- 5:20moving forward, ear pieces earbuds for the rest of my life
- 5:24during this show because I don't want to blow my eardrums, there
- 5:27could be a lot of screaming, a lot of craziness, but I just
- 5:30want to tell everybody you're not gonna miss anything.
- 5:33I probably miss a couple of sounds in you know, peeps during
- 5:37the show because I'm not gonna be able to hear it.
- 5:39But nevertheless I am again happy to be here.
- 5:43This will be my final show until I come back from my vacation on
- 5:47Monday and Thursday. Next week, I will be on
- 5:50vacation. I will be on a cruise, you might
- 5:52hear me, you know, pop in maybe once or twice.
- 5:55It's depends on if I have reception on my cruise ship but
- 5:59now the last I have fish standing in for me, Joppa
- 6:03standing in obviously, as always and Speedy.
- 6:05So it'll be a fun show, still great gas and and great content.
- 6:09It just gonna be a little bit without me.
- 6:11Key for the whole week. So I want to apologize to the
- 6:14fans but it is what it is at 9:00.
- 6:18We'll be talking to USF. Pickleball assistant head coach.
- 6:22On a show before. Tobin Anderson will be joining
- 6:25us. Fantastic personality, and, and
- 6:29we'll see him obviously coach again in college basketball.
- 6:32It's just you know, everything that there's ups and downs the
- 6:35last time we interviewed him, he was getting his new job after
- 6:38going into the I think it was the tournaments.
- 6:41Yeah the tournament that they made the 16 one upset of Purdue
- 6:45when he was right fairly Dickinson he tried after they
- 6:47got eliminated by faux when I'm making the final four years a
- 6:50nine seed. He took the I don't a job after
- 6:52the Saint John's job and unfortunately didn't work
- 6:55wherever, I'm sorry work very well and Iona and now he's in
- 7:00assisting coach right now with USF, so I'm sure he'll get
- 7:03another opportunity and it's gonna be fun to get him on.
- 7:05We haven't spoken to him in a long, long time.
- 7:08Yeah, we were supposed to last year.
- 7:09Yeah, we're supposed to last year.
- 7:11We were very close on a couple occasions.
- 7:13Just couldn't make it work. It's crazy, but I'm sure if
- 7:16you've never heard hoping speak and he knows his basketball, I'm
- 7:20very interesting, very interested to hear what he had.
- 7:24To say what he has to say with the Pacers, and OKC Series.
- 7:27I know he's a big basketball fan, especially the NBA, so I'm
- 7:31sure he has his own take away. The Pacers are up two to one.
- 7:34Speaking of the Pacers the Pacers last night.
- 7:36Beat the Thunder won 16 to 107 in game.
- 7:40Number three to take a 2-1 lead in the NBA Finals, the Pacers
- 7:44outscored the Thunder 32 to 18 in the fourth quarter.
- 7:47And the Thunder did not hit a single three-pointer, the entire
- 7:52fourth quarter. Tyrese Howard had nearly a
- 7:55triple double with a 24-point game. 9 rebound, and 11, assists
- 8:00shy or Shea, whichever way you want to pronounce his name.
- 8:04Had 24 points only the second time in the last 10 playoff
- 8:09games, he has scored under 30 points.
- 8:12The Pacers bench, outscored the Thunder 45 to 18 led by 27
- 8:17points of Benedict, how do you pronounce his name?
- 8:20Lauren Missouri Mass Erin. Master and mathura now.
- 8:26I like math, Aaron like urine mask urine, I like that
- 8:30throughout the NBA, it throughout NBA history, teams
- 8:34that win game, three of the NBA Finals, win the series 80% of
- 8:39the time. Well, I know a lot of OKC fans
- 8:43were not excited watching excited to watch that game.
- 8:46As Shai Alexander Shay, Alexander did not have one of
- 8:50his better games. Nevertheless, you can't depend
- 8:52on your best player to just pull out all the stops.
- 8:56The Pacers right now have the better bench.
- 8:58They have the more depth and you're seeing why the Pacers
- 9:01went through the Eastern Conference going through the
- 9:03Cavaliers, going through the Knicks and doing what they did
- 9:07in the two rounds that a lot of people thought they were
- 9:09obviously outmatched and must must.
- 9:13I guess you could say, much lesser of a team than the Knicks
- 9:17and the Cavaliers, the Cavaliers obviously were the number one
- 9:20seed in East and the Knicks with the number three seed in the
- 9:24Eastern Conference. The Pacers Trail to obviously
- 9:27the Knicks, the Celtics and the Cavalier's as they were the
- 9:31fourth seed. Now that I I'll say this, the
- 9:33Pacers were expected to be good, the second half of the Season
- 9:36that were one of the hottest teams in all the basketball, the
- 9:38last three weeks. I think they only lost two
- 9:40games. So, we expected this, I did not
- 9:43expect them to roll right through the Cavaliers, the way
- 9:47they did even rolling through the New York Knicks like they
- 9:49did. And now right now up to one,
- 9:52gets an OKC Thunder team that won 60, some High games this
- 9:56year. And Was one of the more dominant
- 9:58teams at home. We have seen it in a very, very
- 10:00long time. They lost the game.
- 10:02OKC lost the first game of this series against Tyrese Hall.
- 10:06Burton's unbelievable shot with five seconds, left of the game
- 10:09and that I believe has hurt OKC and they're confidence.
- 10:14Okay, C should be should have, went in to Indianapolis up two
- 10:20games to none and now they're trailing two games to one.
- 10:23You'll look at the situation where the Pacers are now.
- 10:27The Pacers are definitely in the driver's seat.
- 10:29They have a tremendous Talent, like Tyrese halburton.
- 10:32They're getting offense from all different parts of the court.
- 10:35I mean, like we just said, mathura and he has been up and
- 10:40down throughout the last couple of series.
- 10:41There are games that he shows up in there are games that he's
- 10:44really just considered a rebounder or a guy that uses a.
- 10:48They use them as another body as a sixth or seventh guy off the
- 10:51bench but he has been since Sensational.
- 10:53He's added some depth to this lineup.
- 10:56And I'll say this top and Obi topping it was supposed to be
- 10:59Methuen in that game has been less of a man in this series
- 11:03against OKC, maybe because okay, see is just as athletic as they
- 11:07are and the athleticism didn't work.
- 11:09Like it worked with the New York Knicks.
- 11:11Nevertheless, they're getting offense from all different parts
- 11:15of this Pacer team even Naismith, who really has been a
- 11:20big factor in their offense throughout the last couple of
- 11:23Series, has not really had a good series against, okay?
- 11:26See, this is a guy that was one of the best three-point shooters
- 11:30in the NBA, all season long, and you saw what he did against the
- 11:33Knicks, I think, if I'm not mistaken in game number one, and
- 11:36even in game number two, the way he was shooting, he's not
- 11:39shooting that way in this series and they're getting again
- 11:42offense from places besides Tyrese Albertson from other
- 11:46players that are not those type of players.
- 11:48So it's been amazing to watch with the Pacers.
- 11:51I'm not gonna take shots at him. I don't like Tyrese Howard and I
- 11:55don't think any Nick, And likes Tyrese Halpern but you can't
- 11:59disrespect a person. That is one of the more talented
- 12:02long guards. We have seen in a very long
- 12:04time. We fought this and I'll say
- 12:07this, if you remember Lonzo ball, when he came out of the
- 12:10draft, Lonzo ball was six foot. Six, a point guard that could
- 12:14pass. He wasn't as good, a shooter as
- 12:17Tyrese Halpern. Tyrese Halpern wasn't a good
- 12:20shooter when he came out of the draft.
- 12:21He was a defensive player that could pass the ball and rebound
- 12:24because of his length and his ability to do the things that he
- 12:27does. Very, very well, he's become a
- 12:29better shooter in the NBA. He's become a better offensive
- 12:32player in the NBA. And you see that talent, that He
- 12:35is, why Sacramento decided to pass up on him and trade him to
- 12:39Indiana. I don't know.
- 12:40I don't, I can't question the GM.
- 12:43And obviously what Sacramento is done.
- 12:46Over the years ruining their team, they sent Fox to San
- 12:49Antonio for with a backup, really for a bag of balls.
- 12:52So I don't get that organization.
- 12:54Nevertheless, They could you imagine Sacramento at one point
- 12:58had Tyrese halburton and Tiara and Fox as their guards.
- 13:03Now, the iron Fox is playing for San Antonio as their starter and
- 13:06Tyrese halperns to starting point guard for the Indiana
- 13:09Pacers. And right now could win an NBA
- 13:11championship, something the Indiana Pacers have never done.
- 13:15But again, you look at this series and you kind of, you kind
- 13:19of wonder how is it that the Indiana Pacers are out
- 13:23rebounding? This OKC Thunder and OKC Thunder
- 13:27team that has Dart one of the best big.
- 13:30I would say, big forwards in the NBA right now, he has been
- 13:33Sensational all season long. Very good, rebounder.
- 13:37You have hornstein. We all know what he was when
- 13:40with the New York Knicks. When healthy, he adds that grit,
- 13:43he adds that rebounding opportunity off the board
- 13:46offense, a good offensive rebounder good defensive player
- 13:50in a, you know, in the paint. And then the talent that they
- 13:53have, you would have thought OKC Thunder would run through the
- 13:58Indiana Pacers because the Indiana Pacers don't have any
- 14:01secondary players. Well, ladies and gentlemen, if
- 14:03anybody thought that, then you don't know basketball.
- 14:05And I can honestly say for a person that respects basketball
- 14:09and loves basketball, I didn't really think Indiana had this
- 14:12type of team. I thought they adapt, but I just
- 14:15didn't think they were gonna get the offense that they needed
- 14:18from those secondary players to compete with the OKC Thunder.
- 14:22Now, maybe, okay. See is not playing the way they
- 14:26thought they should be playing in this series.
- 14:28I fast pace, but that has a lot to do with Rick Carlisle and his
- 14:31coaching, and slowing everything down.
- 14:34You would have thought the way the Patriots like to play, they
- 14:37like to play running gun. But really, if you've watched
- 14:40this series so far and the first three games, I think the
- 14:43patients have slowed down the pace.
- 14:45They let the pace go their way and and that that's I think is
- 14:49the difference of the series, the pace to The speed of these
- 14:53games that you would have thought was been just just so
- 14:55fast and such an offensive series.
- 14:57Now you're watching it and it really isn't that much of an
- 15:01offensive series. You see an up and down in the
- 15:04series 1. 16 107 is not an offensive series.
- 15:07I mean we've seen OKC score 130 a couple of times in the
- 15:11playoffs so you would expect that this this series would be a
- 15:15high scoring series the way, but I saw, but I think it's been,
- 15:19it's been one quarter or the other right?
- 15:21Like, because we see one half of the other quarters.
- 15:24Yeah. But it's been quarters too, but
- 15:26it has second and fourth quarter where the dominant wants to the
- 15:29Pacers. And that was the biggest key.
- 15:33I think you, when you look at the defense in the those, those
- 15:36quarters as well, 18 points total and like, you were saying
- 15:39Arrow, nope, three-pointers allowed in the entire fourth
- 15:41quarter. They outscored him by double
- 15:43digits in the second quarter. And the bench defense, I think
- 15:46was even more impressive than the bench offense in that game.
- 15:48Like you said, like they have matherne to score 27 points.
- 15:50Nobody else. Really did a lot Obi topping 8
- 15:53points. He did a lot of rebound Zone
- 15:55play good defense. And you look at guys like nem
- 15:57heart who's been threat against the Knicks in the past too, 8
- 16:00points in that game. He said, seven heart is not a
- 16:03good offensive player. You're seeing a guy that can
- 16:05defend multiple positions and he was a thorn in jail and
- 16:08Bronson's ass. And he's been a thorn of Shai.
- 16:11Alexander Shay Alexander in this series so far because they've
- 16:14they've moved the perimeter, the point guards, and the defense on
- 16:18the perimeter on Shai Alexander and you see the difference.
- 16:21It's been really crazy to think that Rick Carlisle, who was a
- 16:25great head coach, he's Sensational.
- 16:27He's one of the best defensive Minds.
- 16:28I've seen in a very long time in the NBA.
- 16:31He reminds me a Lot, Like Pat Riley, anybody remember, Pat
- 16:34Riley, when he caught while you weren't alive Speedy for the
- 16:37Lakers. But with the name, he was in
- 16:38Miami at the end. But with the Knicks, and the
- 16:40way, he, he built that defense and built that, that perimeter
- 16:44defense that the Knicks really played with John Starks and even
- 16:48with Charlie Ward, and then they brought in Chris Childs.
- 16:50After obviously, Pat, Riley left.
- 16:53And Jeff Van Gundy took over the way he liked to play that
- 16:56defense on the perimeter and press and make the other guys in
- 17:00the inside beat them. Now, you're watching what Rick
- 17:02Carlisle's really done? Shai Alexander Shay.
- 17:05Alexander the only way he could score points now is getting into
- 17:09the paint and getting beaten up and that is what they did to the
- 17:12next. That's what they did to call
- 17:13Anthony towns, and that's what they did to Jalen Brunson.
- 17:16And Now ladies and gentlemen, they're doing the same thing to
- 17:19say, Alexander and you look at the way, they were calling fouls
- 17:22at the beginning of the game. You could tell that game was
- 17:24going to get kind of chippy too and you saw okay see still shoot
- 17:27a lot of threesome. It's all that in the first
- 17:28quarter. They made a bunch of them but
- 17:29they're out there at the rest of the game they really didn't.
- 17:31I think They, they made five of their first seven shots or
- 17:34something like that and then since then, it really fell off
- 17:36for them. They still saw 45% for the game,
- 17:38which is good. But like, in general, like, you
- 17:40can't live by the three die by the three philosophy.
- 17:43When you have it, OKC team that has that much inside depth.
- 17:45They should have, which Jalen Williams and Chet Holmgren
- 17:48homegrown finally played. Well.
- 17:49In this series, he struggled the first two games but 20 and 10
- 17:52but still they didn't get a lot after that heart and Stein was a
- 17:55non-factor, a lot of their bench players, their big, their
- 17:58forwards that they should have a size advantage over the Pacers
- 18:01were a non-factor. Because they have like Thomas
- 18:03Bryant is like their one big man Off the Bench.
- 18:05We've been saying this, homegrown is the most important
- 18:08piece for this offense, to really start to pick up.
- 18:11The pace homegroup doesn't pick up the pace, they're not winning
- 18:14the series. Why do you think home?
- 18:16Here's the biggest piece. Well, because of his size, his
- 18:18length, his ability to go up and down the court.
- 18:20The way he shoots the ball, he is a good three-point shooter.
- 18:23He can get into the paint and draw a fouls, and he's a good
- 18:26free, throw shooter so he gives you that, that dual threat, you
- 18:29need offensively to really Compete against teams at a very
- 18:33athletic, like the Pacers home grin is that guy that you get
- 18:37third, or a third offensive style of game from him, your
- 18:42own, your impossible. To be you.
- 18:44Look at Williams Williams up and down, but Williams is their
- 18:47second guy, without without Home Green scouring.
- 18:50Where's your second? Your third Dairy offense coming,
- 18:54where's your fourth type of offense?
- 18:56Coming from Dart Dart is more like yeah, streaky shootings
- 19:01more of a defensive rebounding. Type of guy.
- 19:04He's not a guy that's gonna get you consistent, 20 points a
- 19:07game. If he has a good game he gives
- 19:09you 16 17 and 8 to 9 rebounds. That's the type of player Dort
- 19:14is they don't have that third style of offense that we've seen
- 19:18other teams. Look, look at the Cavaliers when
- 19:20they were dominant, they got that third style of offense from
- 19:23who Kevin Love. When remember the Miami Heat,
- 19:26where did Miami get that third offense from?
- 19:29They got it from Chris Bosh. If you look at The teams that
- 19:32dominated. Look, look at last year, they
- 19:34Celtics, when they won the number one guy throughout the
- 19:37playoffs was really Tatum. And then it was brown in the, in
- 19:41the finals. It was brown and Tatum.
- 19:42And who's that third guy, porzingis.
- 19:45When you get that offense for poisonous, you're gonna win.
- 19:48So and you saw that in that Series against the Knicks and
- 19:52guess, what's an Elfie? They weren't getting that third
- 19:53offense, you're not gonna depend on white.
- 19:55You're not gonna win. We're white.
- 19:57You need that other offensive player and you don't have it.
- 20:01And whole grin is if he's not doing anything on the offensive
- 20:05side of the ball. They're not winning and and I
- 20:07think I believe Rick Carlisle knows that and he's, he's really
- 20:11forcing it out a whole gram to figure out what his offensive
- 20:14was are in this series. Which is basically just he does
- 20:18and he's gonna get, he's gonna get this.
- 20:21Look at what he has done. I look that's why they pay this
- 20:25guy and he should be getting the big bucks soon.
- 20:26Even if they don't come in through in this series, I can't
- 20:30believe how brilliant it's been on defense by the Pacers to me
- 20:34it's about the Pacers defense. You realize they turned them
- 20:37over 19 times and this team was a team that averaged 11.7
- 20:41turnovers per game in the league.
- 20:43That that's what made them special is.
- 20:45They didn't turn the ball over they had, I mean, what did she
- 20:49have? Six turnovers, six, turnovers
- 20:50and only forces and forces? I think he's only, that's right.
- 20:55I don't even think he had six turnovers in any one of these
- 20:58games throughout the playoffs as he's ever gonna play, right?
- 21:02So, they got that game, they got it at home but it's about the
- 21:06defense to me on Chet. It was Myles Turner that they
- 21:10decided to put on Chet's really kind of the the power forward.
- 21:14They ended up not being able to play hard and Stein at all.
- 21:16I don't know what it was about the rotation or the way he's
- 21:19playing or the matchups. They couldn't keep him on the
- 21:23floor. So they ended up having to play
- 21:25kind of a small ball and now you have Turner on Chet and Turner's
- 21:30got longer arms than chat, there he doesn't get the size
- 21:33advantage on Turner and he swatted the shit out of them.
- 21:36And it was there a lot of really lazy plays that you just don't
- 21:40see. And we've seen the Pacers do.
- 21:43I mean, as a Knicks fan and we watched this series very
- 21:46closely. Yes, series.
- 21:48They did, that's it. I mean, I would say Bronson had
- 21:51more success at times than what she did in this game, I think
- 21:55she's been pretty good before. I think, if you push say around,
- 21:58if you push him around, he gets off his spots and he's
- 22:02uncomfortable. Jalen, brunson's going to go at
- 22:05you, he's gonna go at you. He's gonna go at you until he
- 22:07eventually beat you. He's a different player, Shea,
- 22:10if you get into his head and we've seen players like this,
- 22:13he's not Kobe Bryant. He is not that type of player.
- 22:17He's more of a Kyrie Irving. That's what he is.
- 22:19If you could get into Kyrie, Irving's head, Kyrie Irving,
- 22:22doesn't have those explosive games.
- 22:24You can get. How do you do that?
- 22:26You push him around. You put them into positions,
- 22:28where he's on comfortable, shooting the ball or even going
- 22:32to the hole. And by the way, what they have
- 22:34done in this series against Shea is pretty, it's pretty
- 22:37remarkable. She is one of the best three
- 22:39point shooters in the NBA right now.
- 22:40Why are they not hitting three-pointers including him,
- 22:43especially in that game and game?
- 22:45Number three is because they pressed him.
- 22:47They Made him get into the paint and they make him do things that
- 22:51he is not comfortable doing that teams have made him comfortable
- 22:56All Season. Setting setting up shop behind
- 22:59the line where he's shooting in chucking up threes, that's the
- 23:02NBA and that's the way the NBA is, I think Indiana's become
- 23:05that old style defensive team that we've seen over the years
- 23:09that have been dominant in the 80s and the 90s where you're
- 23:12pressing and you're making these guys do things that they're not
- 23:16comfortable doing and that's what Indiana is doing right now.
- 23:18It's been pretty remarkable how good they've been defensively.
- 23:22I have been shocked, shocked on the way they've handled this
- 23:26offensive side of OKC who again, has one of the best offensive
- 23:31players we've seen in the last 20 years?
- 23:34He's really that good of a player.
- 23:36And when you hold them up to 24 points, and what did they say?
- 23:39Last year if you hold Jayson Tatum to 23 points, you have a
- 23:43chance to win a game. So and the same thing happened
- 23:46with the Knicks. What are the, what was the
- 23:47thing? The Fought in their heads.
- 23:49If we could keep James Jayson, Tatum Tatum Tatum at Bay and
- 23:53like Jalen Brown beat us. We're gonna win that game. 90%
- 23:56of the time so and that's what they're doing right now to this
- 24:00team home grin. Who's not such a shed Holger is
- 24:03not scoring. He's not doing the things
- 24:05offensively. You want him to do and Shay
- 24:07Alexander. If he scores 24 25 points.
- 24:10It's a win for the Pacers. Yeah, you were.
- 24:13I was talking about it when we were doing the Nixon, the Pacer
- 24:15series, how they were using, kind of a half pressed defense
- 24:17on Jalen, Bronson making it hard for him to get even closer to
- 24:20three point line. And there were a couple near
- 24:22back Court violations that were that were called or not called.
- 24:25I think is a little bit of a poached different on shy where
- 24:27they're kind of like going blanketing, the perimeter and
- 24:30making it very difficult for him to shoot the threes.
- 24:32And if they do, let him in making him, take tougher,
- 24:34mid-range shots, not letting him drive to the hoop and draw those
- 24:37fouls. I say they were joking about the
- 24:39Timberwolf standard. The other guys talking about the
- 24:41foul Merchants how he's being fouls, the Pacers are not
- 24:43letting him do that either to the same extent and I was still
- 24:46trying to draw the contact in the beginning and game and not
- 24:48getting. The same level of calls and then
- 24:50eventually force him to take a lot of tougher mid-range shots
- 24:52or just mid-range shots in general that were open that are
- 24:55just lower probability as a whole not letting him shoot the
- 24:57threes. And as a result, I think the
- 24:59rest of the team lost confidence in shooting.
- 25:01The threes is when I was out of the game, their bench was out
- 25:04score badly and the Pacers perimeter defense collectively.
- 25:06There's a lot of credit for that.
- 25:07And Rick Carlisle, too. Just changing his defensive
- 25:09approach and never letting him comfortable and VP of this
- 25:12series is Rick Carlisle. That's who the MVP of this
- 25:16series is it's not how Burton it's not any of these guys not
- 25:20Obi topping, not any one of the guys, I think the MVP of the
- 25:25Indiana Pacers it is Indiana wins.
- 25:28The NBA championship for the first time of this team's
- 25:31existence it should go to head. Coach.
- 25:34Rick Carlisle, he has been that good that good.
- 25:37Well, the MVP of game. Three is this guy right here?
- 25:41Benedict, mathura nice. Who Matt, you're almost almost a
- 25:49record of points Off the Bench. 27 points in 22 minutes.
- 25:53Sam Cassell is the only person in the finals game, with more
- 25:56off the bench in the, for the rockets in 95.
- 26:00He played more minutes than that. 27.
- 26:02And 22 is outrageous. He was on his head.
- 26:06You'll ever see? I just yes, he looks like an
- 26:11alien. Sam Cassell looks like an alien.
- 26:13That's He looks like as a matter of fact to sell his nickname,
- 26:17was the alien over there with the Houston Rockets.
- 26:19That's what they used to call them.
- 26:20He, it's true. He was that alien cartoon
- 26:25character. I forget, what?
- 26:27TV show or cartoon it was you see this little alien flying
- 26:31around, he's like a little ball. I I don't, I have to look that
- 26:34up. I don't know cartoons, but I
- 26:36remember like Aqua Teen Hunger Force.
- 26:39Well, was it, how long ago? How long ago?
- 26:41I don't know, it was in a 90s, I don't remember, but it was it.
- 26:45I don't know if it was The Jetsons, it was something that
- 26:48Jets, the Jets. Remember, the Jetsons Jetsons
- 26:51like the 60s cartoonist. Yeah, but it was when I was a
- 26:54kid, I, the Jetson movie came out and in the 80s.
- 26:57I was a Jetsons fan. I loved it.
- 26:59I like I wasn't a cartoon fan, but I like team and I like
- 27:03Thunder Cats and I like the Jetsons.
- 27:05I like all the Disney movies in Del Rio, Rescue Rangers.
- 27:08Remember that? I was when I was a kid, I used
- 27:11to, oh, love the Rescue Rangers. Yeah, I used to watch that love.
- 27:14DuckTales, Alvin Simon, and Theodore Well now DuckTales no
- 27:19duck heads every talking about. That was the guy that Scrooge
- 27:23McDuck with the Vault of gold that he goes swimming in.
- 27:25Yeah well she's these days. Don't remember that stuff?
- 27:28A Chip and Dale Rescue Rangers was different.
- 27:31I don't think it's Alvin Simon. Theodore that was Chipmunks.
- 27:35That was the Chipmunks. Scoops were telling me over
- 27:37there in about same crap? No, it's not.
- 27:39It's not the same crap. It was different Chip.
- 27:41And Dale Chip Chip and Dale, I know you love Chip and Dales, I
- 27:45don't know. Well, I listen, I I could have
- 27:47been a Chippendale dancer. I mean, I'm not gonna lie to you
- 27:50but no, you could not have no chance, really?
- 27:53I, I could know show. What you don't think.
- 27:55I can dance like that. He's like that.
- 27:59You don't think I could dance like that, huh?
- 28:02I mean doesn't Vinny from Jersey Shore do it so Vinny Vinny has
- 28:06nothing on me? Okay.
- 28:08I could get if it was between you and Vinny from Jersey Shore.
- 28:12100% problem I would kick his ass.
- 28:14I would kick his ass. I would absolutely burn him.
- 28:18I would absolutely burn him, 100%.
- 28:25I'm not even trying anybody. I'd see me dance.
- 28:28I'll go out anytime job. If he's if he doesn't trust that
- 28:32I could do that. Any day, you gotta be careful
- 28:35that when the fist pump comes out, I don't do fist pump.
- 28:39That's a lot. I know you.
- 28:40I don't do this. He's gonna be doing.
- 28:42I don't do any of that stuff. ESPN reports that the Knicks
- 28:46targeted several coaches currently under contract with
- 28:50our other teams but got rejected by five different occasions.
- 28:54The Mavericks, the Rockets, the Bulls, the Hawks, the
- 28:58Timberwolves, all denied, the next to interview requested
- 29:01coaches, that they wanted interview.
- 29:03Rick Pitino, Dan Hurley, and Jay Wright.
- 29:06Also said they are not interested in the next coaching
- 29:10job, the athletic. Sam emic reports that former
- 29:14Grizzlies head coach, Taylor Jenkins, and former Kings had
- 29:18coach, Mike, Brown are high considerations for the New York
- 29:23Knicks. The New York Post says oh are
- 29:26Stephan. I'm sorry, Stephon Bondi reports
- 29:29that Mike Malone is still in option for the next but
- 29:32considers it For a long of a shot, the New York daily news
- 29:38reports that Johnny Bryant is still a top candidate for the
- 29:42next despite Jenkins and Browns now, being a betting favorite,
- 29:45Charles Oakley called the Knicks the stupidest people in the
- 29:49world for firing. Tom Thibodeau without a real
- 29:53plan. I do believe.
- 29:55The New York Knicks, have a real plan.
- 29:58I don't know why anybody thinks differently.
- 30:00I know everybody sitting here right now and thinking hey the
- 30:04Knicks reached out to Jay Wright or Danny Hurley or Rick Pitino.
- 30:07The only reason why they reached out to them is because they're
- 30:09considered New York guys. They're from this area and we
- 30:14all know Pitino actually had this job.
- 30:16Danny Hurley's from Connecticut. He grew up in Nick fan.
- 30:18So and Jay Wright the Villanova Nicks.
- 30:21You have all these Villanova players.
- 30:22So you would have thought, I didn't think Jay Wright was
- 30:25coming out of retirement. There was no chance he was doing
- 30:27that as far as the other teams like chasing kid.
- 30:31If Jason, Kidd was available to interview with the next, he
- 30:34probably get the job because the Knicks are trying to get
- 30:37youngest. So I don't believe that the
- 30:41Mavericks will give the Nixon opportunity to interview Jason
- 30:44Kidd because they have control of where they believe Jason Kidd
- 30:48Chicago. So I don't I didn't think Billy
- 30:50Donovan. He's from this area is from Long
- 30:52Island, New York. I didn't think if the Knicks
- 30:55really wanted a New York Long Island guy you should have Went
- 30:58after Kenny Atkinson last off-season.
- 31:00He was the best available coach. He went to the Cavaliers.
- 31:04Now he fell short obviously against this Indiana.
- 31:07Pacer team. Nevertheless, he had a great
- 31:09season, he had one of the best records in a league this coach
- 31:12search. I do not want Mike Brown.
- 31:14Stay the hell away from Mike Brown?
- 31:16I do not want him. I've seen him enough with the
- 31:19Cavaliers. I've seen him enough over there
- 31:21with Sacramento. If you want to go after a guy
- 31:24like Taylor Jenkins, he's an interesting guy.
- 31:27He did a very good job over there with these.
- 31:29The grizzly should have never fired him but again the guy that
- 31:33I'm looking at is Johnny Bryant and I think that is the guy.
- 31:37The Knicks are obviously staring at in and believe they're going
- 31:41to get. Now they're gonna everybody
- 31:43thinks that the next stupid and even if the Knicks go with
- 31:45Johnny Bryant then Nicks are still going to look like a bunch
- 31:47of idiots because they went to the Easter Conference Finals,
- 31:50they fired the coach that got him.
- 31:52There they've had the best record, the teams had, or for
- 31:56the last five years, then there exists.
- 31:58It's over the last 25 years they've made run after run in
- 32:01the playoffs and fell short going.
- 32:03As further as far as they've gone.
- 32:05This, this car this season and now you're going into an
- 32:08off-season where you're questioning where do they go?
- 32:10Do they go in a veteran coach like Mike Malone or Taylor
- 32:13Jenkins or Mike Brown, or do you go after the rookie and and
- 32:17bring in a Johnny Bryant where a lot of people are gonna be
- 32:19questioning. Why did you just fire Tom tip
- 32:22and oh, and higher Johnny Bryant?
- 32:23Why are you waiting this long to make the higher?
- 32:26It makes the Knicks look like a stupid organization because
- 32:29everybody knows they've targeted a bunch of coaches.
- 32:32They wanted to interview for the job, but they already know who
- 32:35they were gonna hire Mike Malone.
- 32:37It doesn't seem like was the guy because if Mike Malone was the
- 32:40guy they would have hired him already.
- 32:42It seems like Johnny Bryant is the guy that they're gonna hire
- 32:46but right now what they're trying to do is interview guys,
- 32:51so it doesn't look like the Knicks didn't have a plan but
- 32:55now they look like they didn't have a plan.
- 32:57And they're still going to hire Johnny Bryant and they're going
- 33:00to look like an idiot organization because they parted
- 33:02ways with a coach that got into the Eastern Conference Finals.
- 33:05None of this makes any sense and what is the New York Post doing?
- 33:09What are all these newspapers doing in magazines?
- 33:12Writing the New York Knicks. The Daily News.
- 33:14What they're doing is they're making the Knicks look like a
- 33:17half-assed organization. Run by a guy, like James Dolan
- 33:21who's been made fun of saying that he doesn't know what the
- 33:23hell he's doing. He doesn't know the position and
- 33:26staying away from the position as an owner to a GM.
- 33:29He has Leon Rose. She's been getting a lot of the
- 33:32praise. But now, when the team is not
- 33:34doing or didn't do what they were supposed to do with the
- 33:37team that they put together this off season, we're calling
- 33:40Anthony towns and McHale Bridges.
- 33:41They didn't go to the finals when they had the best chance to
- 33:44get to that position. So right now, the Knicks are
- 33:48going to be the target of laughter the the target of jokes
- 33:51because right now the Knicks have not made a higher and
- 33:55they're sitting here wondering if Johnny Brown's Guy.
- 33:58Yeah, it's interesting because I think a lot of the coaches that
- 34:00they didn't inquire about from those other teams, probably,
- 34:03we're not going to be higher end guys.
- 34:05Anyway, like Quinn Snyder from the Hawks, that's not really
- 34:08done a lot. Since he's gotten to Atlanta,
- 34:09they've been a play team at best belly Donovan.
- 34:11I like the higher at the time for the Bulls, it made sense,
- 34:14but he's been stuck in mediocrity, not all their
- 34:16faults. I'm not saying that they're bad
- 34:17coaches. I'm not saying that they
- 34:18couldn't succeed somewhere else but they were not the ideal guys
- 34:21for the Knicks. Now, if they could have pride,
- 34:22one of the other three away with the doca or Jason Kidd, someone
- 34:25like that they were never getting a dog.
- 34:27I don't think so. Either, there's no reason for
- 34:28Houston. A two seed in the west this
- 34:30year, a young team to give the Knicks with they want.
- 34:33There's no reason for Dallas to give them what they want, even
- 34:36though they're dumb mortgage Asian and Minnesota, just went
- 34:38to the Western Conference Finals.
- 34:39So there's no reason for any of those teams to do that.
- 34:41I don't mind the Knicks trying to do that kind of thing.
- 34:44The whole process does seem a little far-fetched for doing it
- 34:47that many times a couple of coaches.
- 34:49Yeah, I was hearing a dog and Finch if you just stopped there.
- 34:51Okay, fine. That's different but then doing
- 34:54it like that. Yeah, it does not only the
- 34:55process I grew with you on my brown.
- 34:56I don't think he's really the type.
- 34:58For this team as much. I liked him as a coach.
- 35:00I think he'll do should get a job somewhere else.
- 35:01They built this team, much more on three and D guys, and Mike
- 35:05Brown, when he was in Sacramento was a more offensive driven
- 35:07team, when he was in Cleveland, they were much more offensive
- 35:09driven team. I don't think that type of Team,
- 35:12fits the Knicks as much. Do the Knicks?
- 35:13Need to play faster? Yes, do the Knicks.
- 35:15Need to get better scoring consistently.
- 35:16Yes, I don't think that was the right idea Jenkins.
- 35:19I'm split on like he was the Fallout really that bad with
- 35:22Memphis. Where he would be able to get
- 35:24impact job right away. I like Jake, I would like
- 35:27Jenkins more than tail. I'm sorry.
- 35:28Taylor Jenkins over guys. Like Mike Brown angry.
- 35:31I I would take him or even my Malone because Taylor Jenkins is
- 35:36still kind of a young guy. He's not an Old Gentleman.
- 35:39Mike, Brown's getting up there in age.
- 35:41She's close to 50 Wright. I obviously, we all know what
- 35:44Johnny Bryant is. I think Johnny Bryant's in his
- 35:46mid 40s and again, Taylor Jenkins I think is there, too?
- 35:49I think he's in his men, mid 40s.
- 35:51So, you would want the younger guy.
- 35:53You want to bring in the younger guy that to give you that, that
- 35:56different Outlook to your Offensive side of the ball.
- 35:59I also think that the defense they played throughout the
- 36:02playoffs did not work, it didn't work, and you're not going to
- 36:05beat Indiana that way. You're not going to be the
- 36:08Cavalry Cavaliers, that way. If the Cavaliers were 100%
- 36:11healthy, maybe the Cavaliers, this would be the Cavaliers
- 36:14right now against the thunder. So I just saying that's been the
- 36:18problem and and that also has something to do with coaching
- 36:21Kenny Atkinson ran that team up and down the court all season
- 36:25long. I think that got him tired and
- 36:28then obviously you saw what happened?
- 36:29That Darius Garland at the end of the season throughout the
- 36:32playoffs, a guy that couldn't stay healthy and has something
- 36:35to do with coaching. You got to bring in the right
- 36:37guy. The right guy has to fit the
- 36:41culture there. Johnny Bright's been there
- 36:43before he's worked on top but oh, he understands the defensive
- 36:46side of the ball, I think he'd be great over there for the New
- 36:49York Knicks and he's done wonders.
- 36:51For the Cavaliers. Who went from I think ranked
- 36:54defensively 13th or 12th last year to one of the top three
- 36:57deaf Is in a league this year? Yeah they were one of they were
- 36:59I think the number one defense two years ago when they first
- 37:02hired bicker staff but you're right it's falling off since
- 37:04then but it was really their offense, that was a mess
- 37:06Cleveland over there. And I think that's the type of
- 37:08Coach you're going to need over here with the Knicks.
- 37:10Somebody that could change their offensive culture, Brian going
- 37:12over. There would be that kind of
- 37:13thick because he was with Cleveland last year where they
- 37:15were the most efficient offense in the NBA last year.
- 37:18And that kind of thing, I think is definitely encouraging when
- 37:21you need that two year window. The next had the two year
- 37:24window. Now, you're right Jenkins.
- 37:25I think it's a good culture guy too.
- 37:27He'd organically a young Memphis Grizzly team that they had those
- 37:31grind City years and they had three bad years in a row, then
- 37:34all the sun genre, is drafted their playoff team pretty
- 37:36quickly. And I think the Knicks I don't
- 37:39know if it's gonna be guaranteed to work there, because while
- 37:41they do, have some good young players, they're still mostly a
- 37:43prime veteran team right now. That has that two year window.
- 37:46So I do think Brian is still the approach.
- 37:47You have to go to at this point Jenkins.
- 37:49I do do like the only reason I don't like him as much.
- 37:52Oh, we've seen the Knicks fall off at the end of the season.
- 37:54With Tibetan, we've seen Jenkins fall off the End season with the
- 37:56Grizzlies. There's gotta be a New York
- 37:57back. With one of these guys probably.
- 37:59Again that's where I think fish you're about to get to.
- 38:02It is a New Yorker or older. I I think I think then the
- 38:07Knicks are middle-aged their middle.
- 38:09Aged Guy saying, right that I mean Jalen brunson's 2829 and
- 38:13then you have guys like Josh so do you go younger?
- 38:17Do you go old? I think you go with a guy like
- 38:21Johnny Bryant, I think Johnny Bryant's been there before he
- 38:23understands how we can run this offense in his defense.
- 38:26I think he understands the game and the way the new style of
- 38:30basketball is played and I think if you have Johnny Bryant in
- 38:34this series, this past series against the Pacers, the Knicks
- 38:37probably make the series a little bit more closer because
- 38:39he would be telling his guys, like, and nobody and mikal
- 38:41bridges fight through those picks fight through the picks,
- 38:44don't shift in transition, from one player to another, to
- 38:49another. That doesn't work in the NBA as
- 38:51you seeing right now with the Pacers are doing to Shai
- 38:53Alexander. They have one guy sticking him
- 38:56on the perimeter. If it shifts to another side or
- 38:59he's moving up, they have a big man taking him.
- 39:01That's what they're doing, but they're doing in such a good
- 39:04way. Well, Cheryl Alexander doesn't
- 39:06understand how the rotation is working and he can't get those
- 39:10open three-point shots that he's done over the last really, for
- 39:14the last five years, in the NBA Java to answer your question
- 39:17when they hired Thibodaux initially, they needed that
- 39:19veteran coach to change the culture over there because they
- 39:21were rotating with Jeff Horn, a second, David fizdale and all
- 39:24those other guys and they tried to go for the flashy or highers
- 39:27younger coaches. That seemed like they were up
- 39:29and coming and then they were. And then eventually, I guess
- 39:31just the message gets stale. And obviously, we were talking
- 39:33about last week with that when he did get fire.
- 39:35There were players in the exit interviews with Leon rose.
- 39:37That said that they didn't want to play for.
- 39:39They would have been in a trade in the office season whether it
- 39:42was hard weather is British, whoever it was like they can't
- 39:44have that kind of thing. Just it gets stale eventually
- 39:46same kind of thing with with Malone and the Nuggets.
- 39:48Like I don't know how toxic it was with the individual players
- 39:51getting fired. Obviously was a bad relationship
- 39:52with the GM but they did well with their new coach, they
- 39:55embrace the new culture and I think the Knicks gonna try that
- 39:56same kind of approach if they do hire Brian, which just seemed
- 39:59like the direction they're going in there.
- 40:00That's the way they're going. Yeah, 100%.
- 40:02There was a reason they still inquired about a lot of those.
- 40:05Younger coaches too. Like I Mike Brown is the
- 40:07exception of that rule in Quincy but all the other coaches they
- 40:10inquired by from younger teams are younger coaches.
- 40:12I do think that's the approach. They want to take, they're not
- 40:14going with Taylor Jenkins, they're not going with Mike
- 40:17Brown. I know obviously the betting man
- 40:19will tell you that they're going to go with one of these guys.
- 40:22I think they're only saying that right now, because everybody
- 40:26doesn't think that Johnny Bryant is the hot name.
- 40:29Nobody thinks. Oh you fired, Tom Thibodeau for
- 40:32Johnny Bryant, who's never coached in the NBA before.
- 40:35Nobody likes that higher but it's seems like the more
- 40:39interesting higher out of all of this, you're gonna bring him
- 40:42Mike Brown. That's an interesting higher.
- 40:44Nobody wants Mike Brown. I don't want to hear what he did
- 40:46with the Cavaliers. I don't want to hear about his
- 40:48background as an NBA head coach. He's not good, he wasn't good
- 40:52with Santa. Wasn't he there at Santa?
- 40:53No. He wasn't saying, don't, you
- 40:54know, he was a assistant in San Jose.
- 40:56San Antonio, Golden State, he wasn't Golden State Golden
- 40:59State, that was where he was with Kenny Atkinson and all that
- 41:02other stuff. So I just I don't think he's a
- 41:06good head coach and I I don't the hottest one out of all of
- 41:09this is Taylor Jenkins, but I don't think Taylor Jenkins has
- 41:12any background here in New York. I don't think he's going to New
- 41:15York, it makes a lot of sense, what the Knicks are doing, even
- 41:17though they look stupid right now, they're going with Johnny
- 41:20Bryant's and it's not Mike Maloney anymore.
- 41:22I thought it was Mike Malone. It's not going to be my Malone
- 41:25because if it was gonna be my Malone, they would hired his ass
- 41:29already. Well, I like they're doing their
- 41:31due diligence and asking about, literally everybody that's it.
- 41:34People that are already have jobs.
- 41:36So even though it does look kind of ridiculous in the media to
- 41:40ask some these teams, just like, no, of course, you can't talk to
- 41:42Jason Kidd know, of course, you can't talk to you, may you doca
- 41:46know that guy's a great coach, we're not giving getting rid of
- 41:48him. What are you talking about?
- 41:49Why are you even asking us? It's kind of ridiculous, but you
- 41:54got to find someone. It just I worry that they got
- 41:56rid of tips and they didn't really have a plan on who does
- 42:00it. And whenever that happens, it
- 42:02makes me think this was a James Dolan decision and not a leon
- 42:05Rose decision. Well, that's the same thing.
- 42:08Fishing Dolan is done this a long time, like why would you
- 42:11fire somebody and not have a backup because his stolen
- 42:14because he's stolen, he's worried about singing the blues
- 42:17with his band, you know, and audience, that he paid to be
- 42:21there, you know. And with a two-drink minimum or
- 42:24something like that, he doesn't give a damn.
- 42:26He's like his teams to win. He doesn't know how to do it and
- 42:29then he meddles and he always screws it up.
- 42:31I really hope he doesn't screw this up.
- 42:33I really want Taylor Jenkins. If it was me.
- 42:35I thought and offensive coach Brian's.
- 42:38A defense of Coach. I want to see offense, I want to
- 42:41see more than just Jalen ISO and then hope that they just have
- 42:45like that that connection from Villanova days to make a good
- 42:48pass which they do every once in a while.
- 42:49It's just not good enough. I think whoever it is, they hire
- 42:52Arrow has to Answer this question in the job interview.
- 42:56How do you hide Karl, Anthony towns on defense?
- 42:59Because the defensive system that Tom Thibodeau had exposed
- 43:02him, especially in the playoffs because the switching.
- 43:05Now you look you're gonna have to switch on a pick-and-roll.
- 43:07That's part of basketball. But you can't, if you're gonna
- 43:10switch every single guy and a coach like Carlisle is going to
- 43:15make you do that enough times to the point where Towns now has to
- 43:19step up on the perimeter. Now you look like an idiot or if
- 43:22towns has to then rotate back, you know, he's not gonna rotate
- 43:24back fast enough. So you have to come up with a
- 43:27better defense of scheme and I want to hear that as like the
- 43:30first order of business. How are you going to protect
- 43:32our? Not so great defensive big?
- 43:35And if the answer is, I can't I think you should trade him and
- 43:40this is what they should get. That's not maybe the wrong
- 43:42answer, but I would like to hear a real answer from somebody
- 43:45because they got to come in with that answer.
- 43:47I agree with you, I think somebody's going to have to come
- 43:51in and come with an answer of call Anthony towns.
- 43:53I still don't think Karl, Anthony towns is going to be a
- 43:56part of this team or their organization.
- 43:57I think that Obviously the Knicks realized that Karl
- 44:01Anthony towns is just going to be an offensive option and it
- 44:05doesn't work with Jalen Brunson on the court with him.
- 44:07So if you're going to get, you're gonna pay a guy 50,
- 44:10something million dollars to come off the bench to give you
- 44:12that secondary offense to be on that second team.
- 44:15Then you need to trade Karl, Anthony towns.
- 44:17I think Giannis is in in the play, or in play for the New
- 44:21York Knicks. The question is, is Giannis,
- 44:24gonna like, Jenkins is the honest gonna like Brian?
- 44:27All right, is John is going to, like, any of these coaching
- 44:30options or do they. Wait, wait until the draft is
- 44:34over and they run and Gun for honest.
- 44:36Get Giannis. And ask Giannis who he wants.
- 44:39So I don't, I don't know exactly how the Knicks are handling this
- 44:43but I think they absolutely know where they're going.
- 44:46I don't know why anybody thinks differently.
- 44:49I know that's what everybody wants to cry about right now.
- 44:51I want to know where they're going right now, like, but what
- 44:55are you gonna have to give up to get you on us?
- 44:57Well, I don't know. And that's that has something to
- 45:00do with Leon Rose. And I trust that Leon Rose will
- 45:03make the right decision. And by the way, that's the same
- 45:07thing with the coach though, it's like, if you're not going
- 45:09to bring him in, like, what are you doing?
- 45:10I do not believe. James Dolan has any Involvement
- 45:16of this coach hire I really don't.
- 45:19Leon Rose has been taken over this team and this organization.
- 45:23I trust Leon rose that he's going to make the right
- 45:26decision. Has he made the wrong decision?
- 45:27I don't think he has. He's made a lot of good
- 45:30decisions. So him deciding to part ways
- 45:33with Tom Thibodeau, I believe in Leon Rose.
- 45:36So you gotta trust that he's making the right option for the
- 45:41team and the organization where the team is going and where he
- 45:44believes this team should be next season.
- 45:47And if he thinks that Tom Davido got him.
- 45:49His father is he thought he can get him.
- 45:52He's the one who hired him. So, why is everybody questioning
- 45:55what he did? It's not like he came to the
- 45:58team. Leon Rose came to the team and
- 46:00didn't hire top hit but oh Tom tip, it always been there.
- 46:03As long as Leon Rose is been there.
- 46:05Leon Rose. Did what he needed to do to
- 46:08upgrade this team in this roster.
- 46:09It took him five years to do it. Now all of a sudden because the
- 46:13Knicks fire top tip it Oh, and they haven't hired anybody yet
- 46:17and all these other teams have told.
- 46:19I've told Nicks, you can't, you can't interview this guy, he
- 46:22can't interview that guy. The Knicks are a stupid
- 46:24organization. They don't know what they
- 46:26they're doing and they should be ashamed of themselves.
- 46:28I'll tell you what, here's what I'm going to do for all unique
- 46:32fans that are talking, all the crap on social media, If this
- 46:36doesn't work. If Leon Rose doesn't make the
- 46:41right decision. And he decides, hey I'm going to
- 46:44bring in Johnny Bryant or I'm gonna bring in Mike Malone or
- 46:48I'm gonna bring in Taylor Jenkins whoever he decides to
- 46:50bring in and this fails. Over the last five years when it
- 46:55hasn't, I will quit being a broadcaster.
- 46:58I will quit being a broadcaster because I believe in Leon rose
- 47:05on everything that he has done over the last couple of years.
- 47:09And I am not questioning this man on his decision making on
- 47:14how he believes this team should be when it comes to rotation or
- 47:18defense and how this team should be in secondary offense, which
- 47:22they have had none over the last couple of years because she got
- 47:25guys that you have to like colic.
- 47:27And all these other French players that you've drafted over
- 47:31the last couple years that you don't play enough and you
- 47:33bringing campaign because Tom tip it all like them, give me a
- 47:39break. I trust Leon Rose and you heard
- 47:42it from me today. Leon Rose fired, Tom Thibodeau,
- 47:45whoever he brings in, I trust in Leon so much I would give up
- 47:49broadcasting if he's wrong. Just be careful because I was
- 47:54listening to Francesa and mad, dog and mad, dog.
- 47:57Swears that it was Dolan's fire and Francesca's where it was
- 48:02Leon Rose. So nobody knows just like always
- 48:05with the Knicks where the madness is coming from but I it
- 48:09look, if it is really Leon Rose. I, I agree with you.
- 48:11Earl, he's earned. Our trust with everything that
- 48:14he's done as. As the as running the next, the
- 48:17Nicks were in complete Hellcat hell, the met, I mean, do you
- 48:22remember the Phil Jackson day? I remember how terrible that
- 48:25was. Oh my God, the false hope of the
- 48:27Phil Jackson days and crafting. Frank Miller remember that guy?
- 48:32Frankie remember that, shoot, the basketball when they could
- 48:36have drafted the spider three picks away from that, or no,
- 48:39actually. Lee five picks away from that.
- 48:41Something was 13. So he, yeah, because he fell out
- 48:45of the top 10, right? Yes, I think he went 13 or 12.
- 48:48And then the and even before that, with Isaiah Thomas with
- 48:51all the, just the disaster that he was, it was so many years in
- 48:55generations of the, I mean, you can go back to Scott and if you
- 48:58really want Donnie, Walsh was good.
- 48:59Donnie, Walsh was good. Yeah.
- 49:01Except Donnie Walsh made a proposal to LeBron to come to
- 49:04the Knicks while he was in a wheelchair and on a ventilator
- 49:06and it was like one of the dumbest things anyone's ever
- 49:09done. I can't forgive him for that, to
- 49:13be honest with you, I just I never have that look.
- 49:16The Knicks. It's a wide open East next year,
- 49:19Tatum's of the Year. Hey, hold on.
- 49:22We we got a fan come in and this is gonna be something that goes
- 49:26to Arrow. He's just Steph Curry guy.
- 49:32Was healthy. The Timberwolves were cooked.
- 49:37personally, as that's what I personally feel like, Because
- 49:41they cannot guard him and that's the Houston Rockets.
- 49:44And even aunt said it came out and said it in an interview he
- 49:47was like it's that was playing with a different story even
- 49:49though he know what's that? Just little he hates Stephanie.
- 49:55It's a little Timberwolves 37 year olds.
- 49:59Listen. Nobody's taking away from Steph.
- 50:02Curry's talents and we all know he's one of the best people.
- 50:05He has the best three point shooter we've ever seen in NBA
- 50:07history. I understand what you're saying
- 50:09about their if he was healthy he would give them a little bit of
- 50:13a more of a jump offensively. Here's the reason why they were
- 50:17not going to win that series, even if he was on 100% healthy
- 50:20because the secondary offense, that Steph Curry was getting
- 50:24even from Butler, Butler was not the same player this year.
- 50:27When they made the trade and they brought him in from Miami.
- 50:30He was it, he wasn't even 100% healthy and now they have to pay
- 50:34him because he is going. They just extended him for the
- 50:38next three years. Well, two years, they see Sean
- 50:41to three year deal. They're old, they're an old team
- 50:43like green. Look at his beard.
- 50:45I mean, besides him showing his private parts on social media,
- 50:48there is nothing. I'm interested to see him on a
- 50:51basketball court anymore. There's no secondary offense.
- 50:55You're going to talk about kaminga comingo is not very
- 50:58friendly with Steve Kerr. They tried to trade Commando at
- 51:02the trade deadline but nobody wanted him and what the the
- 51:05Green Bay. The sorry.
- 51:07The the Golden State Warriors wanted was a significant amount.
- 51:10They traded Andrew. Well, they let Andrew Wiggins go
- 51:14who gave him that depth offensively?
- 51:16They don't have any depth anymore.
- 51:18There's no Splash Brothers, this is not a young team, they're
- 51:22not. Nobody wants to go there
- 51:23anymore. That is a young Star as good as
- 51:26Steph. Curry is Steph Curry's an old
- 51:28man. He started six years old and he
- 51:30is not washed up, but the team is washed off.
- 51:33As we've been hearing over the last couple of months.
- 51:36The Rumblings that Steve Kerr, could step down this offseason.
- 51:40And if that happens, where do they go in their coaching
- 51:43searches? Are they gonna go and Mike
- 51:46Brown? I know he's Steve Kerr's butt,
- 51:48buddy. I mean, seriously, there is no
- 51:51way Golden State would have won and beat the Timberwolves in
- 51:56that series, even with the healthy Steph Curry.
- 51:58So whoever you are what your name, sir.
- 52:00What's your name? What's his name, Java?
- 52:03What is his name? He's coming in.
- 52:05He was just going to the bathroom.
- 52:06Oh yeah, so he didn't hear my take on it.
- 52:09It's no, no here. No, he heard it.
- 52:13Who do we? Who do we have?
- 52:14What's your name, sir? Yeah.
- 52:16Does he hear us? Yeah.
- 52:18What's your take on? What do you say?
- 52:20Golden State? And what?
- 52:22Oh, he didn't hear what I had to say.
- 52:23That's all right, I know here, some of it.
- 52:25Well, he can hear the real, most of it.
- 52:27I heard the fact is they wouldn't have won even with a
- 52:31healthy but I can't hear him. It's okay.
- 52:35It to me. Steph Curry healthy, Steph Curry
- 52:39at 100% of Steph Curry at 80%. It wouldn't have mattered Steph,
- 52:43Curry would have scored 45 50, it wouldn't have mattered.
- 52:46They don't have any secondary offense, not enough to get over.
- 52:50The hump, gets a team that had Julius Randle playing at the top
- 52:53of his game. And, and they're getting enough
- 52:56bench points from guys like Dante, Diva chanzo.
- 52:59And then, Anthony Edwards. Anthony Edwards, just one of the
- 53:02most overrated, playoff players we've seen in a long time.
- 53:05I'm not gonna even argue about Anthony Edwards.
- 53:10I'm sorry. Yeah.
- 53:12No. We're good.
- 53:12Okay. So I I just think that Steph
- 53:15Curry is not even at 100%. I don't think Steph Curry would
- 53:19have made a difference as far as them moving forward into the
- 53:22playoffs. I just they're a team that needs
- 53:24to rebuild. They need to add some youth to
- 53:26that roster and they got to decide what they're doing with
- 53:30Steph Curry because honestly, if I was stuff very, I would
- 53:33honestly know that I'm not gonna win with gold and state.
- 53:36I look at other teams. I look at other teams.
- 53:39I know I got the just what he was saying before.
- 53:41Yeah, so can you hear me? Yeah, we hear you.
- 53:45So, I heard what you said before about like them being old.
- 53:49You're right about that. You know, Ace obviously factors
- 53:53into, you know, when you feel like they had a good enough
- 53:59team, I think it's not just the age.
- 54:02I think it's the coaching. I think it's the gym is not very
- 54:06good. I like he doesn't really like,
- 54:07he doesn't know how to develop players.
- 54:10Like, I mean, it's a very good player and if like, The whole
- 54:15playoff they didn't plan. So they start being in trouble
- 54:17with Minnesota and then when they started playing them, it
- 54:20was too late. It was all cold and shit.
- 54:22I was like, you know what? I feel like it's not so much the
- 54:26players, it's the coaches, and it's the owners.
- 54:29I don't leave you, not the best GM.
- 54:32I feel like, I feel like Bob Myers, he was very like, he's
- 54:36intuitive. He was very like, He was better.
- 54:38He was way better at like grabbing players and around step
- 54:43and like moderate was better. Grandma greens a problem.
- 54:47I love him and I hate them. It's a love-hate relationship
- 54:49with Grandma. I'm not gonna lie to you, I feel
- 54:51like we had dream on. We had Jordan Poole.
- 54:54We would oh, stop it. You just lost respect for me.
- 54:58Everything that you said I was almost saying, wow, this guy
- 55:01knows what he's talking about. Any brings up Jordan Paul stop
- 55:03with the Jordan Poole. Jordan Poole sucked.
- 55:06He was overrated came from what he played for Michigan, right
- 55:09heater. I mean he was a decent offensive
- 55:13player got overpaid by the Golden State Warriors and you
- 55:15said Myers, if Myers was so good, why did he ditch the
- 55:19Golden State Warriors to go and be to go work for a baseball
- 55:22bats? Always, I'm sorry football team
- 55:24and he's a broadcaster now. He ditched the Golden State
- 55:27Warriors because he knew this team was gonna fall flat on
- 55:30their face. That's why it happened and
- 55:32you're gonna give him all the complement.
- 55:34All the compliments because he walked out on the Golden State
- 55:36Warriors when they were at the highest point.
- 55:38Get out of here. Golden state is a washed up
- 55:41team. That's never going to A
- 55:42championship again, it doesn't matter who they bring in in the
- 55:45offseason. This is an old team.
- 55:47And if I was deaf, I'm going to a younger team like an OKC
- 55:51Thunder, like a Rocket's team where I have a chance to win
- 55:54multiple more times. If I want to win more
- 55:56championships and be considered Kobe Bryant, not Michael Jordan,
- 56:00but maybe a Kobe Bryant in the future before I move on to the
- 56:03next Topic. West actually has some CFL plays
- 56:05of a game. That's about to start in two
- 56:06minutes plus three and a half for Winnipeg anytime TouchDown
- 56:09for wide receiver, Joey Cochran. And Chaz also has him for the
- 56:12first touchdown plus 4,000, that's all I'm saying.
- 56:14I'm not taking shots at Steph Curry.
- 56:16I know everybody thinks I hate him.
- 56:18I don't, I'm not a big fan of his, I followed him coming out
- 56:22of Davidson. I wanted the Knicks to draft
- 56:24him. I just don't like his
- 56:25personality on a basketball court.
- 56:27He seems like a nice guy off the basketball court.
- 56:30I don't know him personally. And if I did, maybe I changed my
- 56:33mind about him. I know kind of McGregor off the
- 56:36out of the Octagon. I met him a couple times.
- 56:38He's an ass. So I I've always thought I meant
- 56:42to be an Asshole. And I Stinky's an ass.
- 56:44Now after meeting him two or three times and dealing with his
- 56:47his agent and his team over there with the old Irish, Irish
- 56:52people crazy people over there. So by the way, threatened my
- 56:56life and he kissed my ass and kiss my ass, that's all I'm
- 57:00gonna say speaking of kissing my ass on the Bill Simmons show.
- 57:04Former NBA ESPN NBA Rider. Chuck Klosterman, compare Cooper
- 57:10Flagg two debt lift shrimp. I can't wait for this one.
- 57:14He says, flag. Could make a few all NBA teams
- 57:18like shrimp did, but doesn't see him as a player that can
- 57:23dominate. He thinks that flag ceiling is
- 57:27the second best player on a good team and maybe a third best
- 57:32player on a good team. Shrimp was a three-time
- 57:35All-Star, and in all NBA player and average, 13.9 points per
- 57:41game, 6.2 rebounds per game, 3.4 assists per game, 0.8 steals a
- 57:46game, who the hell cares Speedy? With all these stupid statistics
- 57:50flag was the national Player of the Year, averaging 19.2 points
- 57:54per game, 7.5 rebounds per game and four point two assists per
- 57:59game. That's all the statistics.
- 58:01I need Speedy flag has been compared to players like Kawhi
- 58:06Leonard, Kevin Garnett, Scotty Pippin and Tim Duncan by many
- 58:10NBA Executives. And I'll tell you, I'm not an
- 58:13NBA executive, but you know who, I compared him to Kevin Durant
- 58:17heels, the white, Kevin Durant. I watched this kid play from
- 58:21eighth grade on. I've watched this guy develop
- 58:24all the way from Maine and he has become one of the best
- 58:28players in the country. In four years, we've been
- 58:31working on trying to get him on this show.
- 58:33We all know his capable talents. He went to Duke.
- 58:37Why did he go to Duke? Because Duke is one of the best
- 58:40Collegiate schools in all of college basketball.
- 58:43And he got recruited by who the greatest coach in college
- 58:48basketball history and Coach K. I sit here today and I'm going
- 58:52to sell this, and I'm gonna put this on a platter for all you
- 58:56Dallas Maverick fans out there. You could put in a bedding
- 59:00option, and if they build a casino over there in Dallas,
- 59:03good for them, you can bet that if I'm right about this, you'll
- 59:06be a millionaire Cooper. Flag is gonna be the face of
- 59:10United States basketball. Cooper flag is gonna average
- 59:13between 25 and 30 points per game, eight rebounds per game,
- 59:17and he is going to be a two-way basketball player.
- 59:21He will be the best player on the Mavericks in three years.
- 59:25Wait, Kyrie Irving, Anthony Davis and all these mongrels.
- 59:29Okay, no matter who's there Cooper Flagg, he's gonna be the
- 59:33best player. There, I'm gonna tell you this
- 59:35right now. This writer, I don't know him.
- 59:38Personally, I don't I don't care where it comes from Chuck
- 59:41Klosterman and he's gonna need a cluster of him back because
- 59:45that's where he's going to be pissing out of when somebody
- 59:47shoots him. Okay, this guy's an idiot.
- 59:51He is not smart, and this is a ridiculous.
- 59:54Take debt, lift shrimp. Okay?
- 59:56I like that left shrimp. I've watched him when he played
- 59:59for the SuperSonics, he was a good player.
- 1:00:00He played with Sean Kemp, he played with Gary Payton.
- 1:00:04He played with a bunch of good players, and he also had a
- 1:00:08chance. That one point I think, if I'm
- 1:00:09not mistaken play with dicks, it can't be my tumble.
- 1:00:11I am not going to sit here. Also was a monster in NBA game.
- 1:00:15I am gonna tell you this and I'm not trying to sell you guys,
- 1:00:20anything. You don't know that left shrimp
- 1:00:22was a good player. He is not, I repeat.
- 1:00:25He is not Cooper Flagg. And for anybody that thinks that
- 1:00:28just shows you how clueless you are when it comes to basketball
- 1:00:32and Bill Simmons for you to have Chuck classroom in on your show.
- 1:00:37Shame on you, I love your Celtic City.
- 1:00:41Even I couldn't stand the green and white.
- 1:00:42I give you a lot of credit for the production end of it.
- 1:00:45But I'll tell you this right now.
- 1:00:47It's very cunning. It's very supportive when You
- 1:00:51have this full and Bill Simmons, who's about five foot five,
- 1:00:55couldn't step on a basketball court.
- 1:00:57And everybody's been telling you, he's six three.
- 1:00:59I don't care if he's six straight to me, he's five foot
- 1:01:02five on his little camera, okay. He's a small little bitch who
- 1:01:06has Chuck Closter bag on his show speaking.
- 1:01:10Absolutely Ridiculousness about one of the best American
- 1:01:15players. We have seen come out of college
- 1:01:18in about 25 years. It's shameful.
- 1:01:21It's, absolutely shameful. And by the way, who would you
- 1:01:24compare Cooper to? I just said it, he said white
- 1:01:27Durant, so why? Kevin Durant.
- 1:01:29I think he's gonna be Kevin Durant.
- 1:01:31Kevin Durant came into the league and I'll explain
- 1:01:33something to you when he played for Texas.
- 1:01:35Anybody remember him with the long horns?
- 1:01:38He was a good shooter watched him in college.
- 1:01:41I was there with him, he was a good shooter, he wasn't a great
- 1:01:44shooter, he developed his shooting ability in three years,
- 1:01:48in the NBA, what Kevin Durant was really Really good at.
- 1:01:51He was long and he could do everything good.
- 1:01:54He was a good rebounder. He wasn't much of a pastor but
- 1:01:57he could shoot anywhere on the perimeter.
- 1:01:59He could dominate anywhere within 18 to 19 feet and right
- 1:02:03to the hole. And he was so fancy.
- 1:02:05He was so fun to watch and energetic and he was an
- 1:02:08interesting personality. That's Cooper Flagg, guys, what
- 1:02:11do you think? Cooper, go watch the videos of
- 1:02:14Kevin Durant. This is how I kind of compared
- 1:02:17and contrast. These guys now is he gonna be
- 1:02:19Kevin Durant as a 3-point shooter?
- 1:02:20Probably not. But if you get if Cooper Flags
- 1:02:24averaging between 42 percent 43%, at the three-point line, I
- 1:02:30would even say a little bit less.
- 1:02:31Let's say, 39 308. If you get 39% of your three
- 1:02:36pointers in Cooper Flags going to average between 25 and 30
- 1:02:39points. Again, he's just is and he's a
- 1:02:42good free, throw shooter, he's gonna average, I think he's
- 1:02:47gonna average between 21 and 22 points next year.
- 1:02:51That's what he's going to be averaging.
- 1:02:52That's why I think he's going to be.
- 1:02:53And he's gonna give you up about six to seven rebounds, and about
- 1:02:57three assists. That's where I think Cooper
- 1:02:59Flags gonna be. And the reason why is he's not
- 1:03:01gonna have Kyrie Irving all season.
- 1:03:02So he's gonna be young and everything.
- 1:03:04All the offense is going to go through him.
- 1:03:07And then you have Anthony Davis who is old and we don't know if
- 1:03:11Anthony Davis is coming back. So all the offense is going to
- 1:03:14be going through Cooper Flagg and Cooper flag is gonna get a
- 1:03:16chance to develop a lot sooner than later, because he doesn't
- 1:03:19have Mr. Ball hog himself. Kyrie Irving.
- 1:03:21Chucking up threes. So that's why I think it's gonna
- 1:03:25go. Yeah, I was gonna say like that
- 1:03:26with shrimp. Seems like a guy that's like a
- 1:03:28good modern comparison for today's MBA.
- 1:03:30But like for what he was at the time like he still had flaws as
- 1:03:33a player, too. You think shrimp is is Cooper
- 1:03:36flag. No, Cooper Flags.
- 1:03:37A lot better. I'm getting it.
- 1:03:38I'm just saying, I'm just saying, like, I think if Trump
- 1:03:41playing in today's game, maybe he's good.
- 1:03:43But I know Cooper flag as a prospect, like you said, Kevin
- 1:03:47Durant. We've heard all these other
- 1:03:48comparisons like the upside is Hall of Famer as it is and he
- 1:03:52does a lot more than his stats even show too.
- 1:03:54When it came to Smart passing smart shooting and could.
- 1:03:57Well, rounded Defender better Defender than Durant was a
- 1:04:00prospect and Durant was a little taller and longer at the time
- 1:04:04when he came out, the flag is a lot of room to grow.
- 1:04:06He's growing his body at night near old.
- 1:04:08He does a lot of different things that left.
- 1:04:10Trump did not do all those things.
- 1:04:11He was flawed defensively for that time.
- 1:04:13He was not nearly as Athletics, so I think the comparison is
- 1:04:17ridiculous, even though I do like I said, I do think Trump
- 1:04:19would play better in today's game but Cooper Flagg.
- 1:04:22That's not what he's saying that's not that's not what
- 1:04:24anyone should be saying when you're comparing the Cooper
- 1:04:26Flagg, whose consider this generational talent and as
- 1:04:29already shown a lot of it, he's not wrong in really anything at
- 1:04:32this point. It's just, it's ridiculous.
- 1:04:34It's ridiculous statement, it really is.
- 1:04:37And by the way, deadliest shrimp average about 38.4% behind the
- 1:04:42three-point line. So if you want to save the
- 1:04:44comparable shooting ability of dentless shrimp and Cooper flag
- 1:04:48at the three-point line, that might be comparable.
- 1:04:50His game is all around game, not a chance, as far as
- 1:04:54comparability, but look at this guy, ariel, look, look at the
- 1:04:57the German assassin himself, that left shrimp, was that great
- 1:05:02sidekick, third wheel camping Gary paid in on those Sonic's
- 1:05:05teams. It was with a Pacers as well.
- 1:05:08That is a three-time All-Star, he made up one third Team, all
- 1:05:13MBA and was a great, you know, third guy on the team.
- 1:05:17One of the best of the 90s. We all remember him, but no one
- 1:05:22remembers him as a star, and that's kind of this argument,
- 1:05:25right? Like, if you're a really great
- 1:05:27player, he's faster, man. Look at how goofy this guy isn't
- 1:05:31the Quan first off? I He is like interesting looking
- 1:05:35heard in lots of crazy books and cultural books.
- 1:05:39I read my kids Sally but I rest my old.
- 1:05:41He was he was one of the original writers on Grantland.
- 1:05:44Real Simmons, kind of landmark thing that made him famous.
- 1:05:47Then I'm super rich rather. So to me, like this take is
- 1:05:53really fascinating because he's saying that flag doesn't have a
- 1:05:56lead athleticism. Not wrong, very good, not at
- 1:06:00least doesn't have Elite. Pretty much anything, but very
- 1:06:04good at almost everything does that make you an elite player in
- 1:06:08the NBA? Or does that make you a great
- 1:06:10second banana? That's interesting.
- 1:06:12That's what he was saying to me, I don't think shrimps the right
- 1:06:15comparison. Here's the guy.
- 1:06:17I was thinking of and when I watched him in college, so I'd
- 1:06:21say I'll give you some of the Guard skills of Durant as a big
- 1:06:24is, but I is just jokingly as far as athletic ability to 718,
- 1:06:30we know that I'm just say, he'll catch.
- 1:06:32All right, let's at least Elite athletically.
- 1:06:35Yeah, Luca yes, Dad 100% now he's not it.
- 1:06:39Well, it's more like a coordination and like,
- 1:06:41understanding the game like IQ that kind of athleticism first
- 1:06:44thing that pops into your head about your kids is not as
- 1:06:47athletic ability, okay? Not the how hot, not his
- 1:06:49vertical leap. Yes, you don't think about
- 1:06:51yoga's. Vertical, leap, or his lateral
- 1:06:53defense. You know that he does?
- 1:06:54Do a good job defensively. He's not his technique.
- 1:06:58Let us as if part there's there's different aspects of it.
- 1:07:01If your kids has athletic ability like there talking about
- 1:07:05elite athletic ability, so does Cooper Flagg.
- 1:07:08If you're gonna sit here and tell me that you'll catch has a
- 1:07:11whole has more athletic abilities.
- 1:07:12One of the best players in the NBA because he does everything
- 1:07:16right, his technique. This is as good as anybody we've
- 1:07:18seen. So that's technique different
- 1:07:22than up. Let us it's different.
- 1:07:24Yes, he has to be athletic to be technical.
- 1:07:26That's not true, that's not true.
- 1:07:29That's any, that's not the case. Not basketball, either in above
- 1:07:34the who play or below the who play and you'll get you decide
- 1:07:36to leave below who player doesn't mean, he's not great at
- 1:07:38it. It just means that very often in
- 1:07:41the NBA. We know you don't get the one of
- 1:07:43one, like, no one's ever played the way you could play, let's
- 1:07:46just face it flag, he's not gonna be that tall.
- 1:07:49He's six, nine guy, he's gonna power forward body, look at, so
- 1:07:53I was thinking of him when I watched kotlin, I go to the hoop
- 1:07:57with such Enthusiasm, he's so much better going to the hoop
- 1:08:00than those guys with more athleticism.
- 1:08:02It reminds me a little bit of Blake Griffin in college.
- 1:08:05Not the same height, stop the way that he drives to the hoop.
- 1:08:09With that kind of Lake Griffin. Stop liquid.
- 1:08:11Choose the second pick in the shoot.
- 1:08:14He couldn't shoot ice. That's why I'm saying a mix of
- 1:08:16Blake Griffin and the guard skills of Durant from college,
- 1:08:19because he goes to, because granted and drive the hoop like
- 1:08:22that. No, no way, no way.
- 1:08:24Not the way that he's doing, its kind of LeBron Eskimos the way
- 1:08:27that he goes to the hoop and, as he's windmill dunks, he's
- 1:08:30obviously not the same physical specimen, but I mean, is he
- 1:08:35going to be able to do that against the MBA guys?
- 1:08:38Let me cost him in this, okay? If he knows so much about the
- 1:08:42NBA who was the most dominant player at the Olympics during
- 1:08:47the practices against all the stars for Team USA, let me ask
- 1:08:50you just took that my next sentence out of my mouth, I had
- 1:08:53that here. Let's hear it colostomy
- 1:08:55Klosterman bag whatever I call it a colostomy bag that was lost
- 1:08:59to me. Back my cluster me back.
- 1:09:00That's why I called him a colostomy back.
- 1:09:02Okay, here's what I'm gonna say to Mr. Colostomy bag.
- 1:09:06All right. The best player on the
- 1:09:09basketball court during those practices were.
- 1:09:11And it's been said by Anthony, Davis, LeBron James and all
- 1:09:17those guys, you know what they said, the number one player on
- 1:09:20the basketball court during those practice was Cooper Flagg
- 1:09:24and all those athletic guys. Anthony Edwards, Jewell and
- 1:09:28Pete. Oh those unbelievable
- 1:09:31athletically, talented players that we've seen for Team, USA.
- 1:09:34All these years that guy was the most athletic one on the
- 1:09:38basketball court. So, kiss my ass.
- 1:09:40Closter me back. All right.
- 1:09:42That's the most famous Blake Griffin was a number one pick.
- 1:09:45Just like I thought he was second, he was second in that
- 1:09:49draft. Remember she said, yes.
- 1:09:51Oh my goodness. But look.
- 1:09:55Blake Griffin. When we think about him now, he
- 1:09:58had a couple of great years when he had that athleticism, he lost
- 1:10:01the athleticism and he was a role player, he's not going to
- 1:10:04be a Hall of Famer. And that's that's kind of a
- 1:10:07classroom and saying he's not a Hall of Famer, no way.
- 1:10:10But Speedy. How long is Blake Griffin been
- 1:10:12dominant on? In the NBA he might be My seven
- 1:10:15years, I would say probably seven.
- 1:10:17But, look, look it up because he went to the Pistons and was
- 1:10:20terrible. And yes, Paul when he was with
- 1:10:22Chris Paul and they were doing him and DeAndre Jordan, that was
- 1:10:25awesome basketball. They were great.
- 1:10:27Never won anything. You know the NBA's weird and
- 1:10:31they get everybody gets into the the NBA Hall of Fame now.
- 1:10:34So the reason why I thought a Blake Griffin, now saying, you
- 1:10:37know, points per game for Cooper Flagg be around 2122.
- 1:10:41So I'm looking at the highest points per game for rookie, in
- 1:10:43NBA history. And if you go down to around 22
- 1:10:46points per game, you get Blake Griffin 22.5 points per game in
- 1:10:502010. So I I think that's a pretty
- 1:10:53good comp for what you can expect from him.
- 1:10:56Now, if he has the rookie Grant, he'd be better than Blake
- 1:10:59Griffin as a rookie. He's not gonna average 22 points
- 1:11:02a game for his whole career. He's gonna average a lot more
- 1:11:05than that. I'm telling you, I don't know
- 1:11:07why I think that they build the offense around him, but then
- 1:11:10again maybe like drinking a beer after he finishes a basket dude,
- 1:11:13that guy lives created, that guy lives, this guy lives and sleeps
- 1:11:17basketball, anybody that knows anything about Cooper Flagg and
- 1:11:22how energetic and his personality is everything that
- 1:11:25we've heard about him. He lives in sleeps basketball,
- 1:11:28you don't even play video games, he's out on the basketball
- 1:11:31court. Try, you know, trying to get
- 1:11:33better. He's that type of player.
- 1:11:34I'm telling you right now, Cooper's gonna be a 25-30 point
- 1:11:38guy in three years, he's gonna be one of the best American
- 1:11:41players. We're gonna be considering him
- 1:11:42the face of United States, basketball.
- 1:11:44Mark my words I'm telling you right now, you can sit this in
- 1:11:47your heads and when it comes back to me, three, four years
- 1:11:50from now, and I told I tell You that I told you.
- 1:11:53So I'm gonna tell you. You guys were absolutely wrong
- 1:11:55and Mr. Me bad. It's not gonna have another job
- 1:11:58because he's an idiot and he should just stay on Bill Simmons
- 1:12:00podcast because the guy, the only thing he preached is is I
- 1:12:05don't, I'm not even gonna say it anyways.
- 1:12:07Yeah, it was a five-year. I don't want to really myself
- 1:12:10really out there, so I don't want to throw myself deeper, but
- 1:12:13I think you guys got my drift. I don't think Bill Simmons knows
- 1:12:17what he's talking about. I don't think this guy is 63,
- 1:12:20though. He is 63.
- 1:12:22He looks like a shrimp to me. I don't care how tall he is,
- 1:12:25everything. I like the shrimp cocktail.
- 1:12:26I mean, I don't care if he's 6'3, he's job a size but he
- 1:12:31looks like he looks like this. It looks like a little pinky.
- 1:12:34That's what he looks like on my skinny guy.
- 1:12:36That's what to me. I don't care how tall you are,
- 1:12:38if you're a little rail, nobody gives a crap.
- 1:12:41It's because he's not drinking enough.
- 1:12:43Six packs is what I think that guy's not gonna like it.
- 1:12:47Cooper Flagg going over there and drinking beer.
- 1:12:48I'll tell you drinking, but I don't want to get myself into
- 1:12:51trouble on live radio, so he's probably tricking that and
- 1:12:54that's why, you know, he doesn't gain any way.
- 1:12:56A lot of protein as we all know, right?
- 1:13:04Keep drinking it. By the way, this show is brought
- 1:13:09to you by cocktail. I wouldn't miss him, if he
- 1:13:20Brought to you by honey mustard from somebody, it should be sure
- 1:13:25that job. They're good, honey.
- 1:13:28Mustard over there? No, no wait.
- 1:13:31That they do have good honey, mustard.
- 1:13:33I will. I will admit that.
- 1:13:35All right. I gotta try it.
- 1:13:36Is it homemade over there? Yeah, I gotta try it.
- 1:13:40I like homemade honey mustard. It's my favorite more honey than
- 1:13:44mustard. I'm not a mustard person.
- 1:13:45It's got to be more honey. It's got to be sweet.
- 1:13:47I like that. I like the literally Catherine's
- 1:13:50family, they put like mustard on their like popcorn and stuff.
- 1:13:53Oh really oh sounds good. Yeah Europe I think that sounds
- 1:13:57good. Shut up.
- 1:13:59Anyways, ladies and gentlemen, we did this last week, it's a
- 1:14:09new segment. We call this Speedy's six pack
- 1:14:12of the week. Let's have a hey who wants to
- 1:14:16play drink the beer? It's time for the speed six pack
- 1:14:20of the way. Speedy.
- 1:14:25Is sitting here right now with a six-pack play with himself stats
- 1:14:29and information about the Stanley Cup Final real job.
- 1:14:34And some of the game that's going on right now currently one
- 1:14:37nothing Panthers. That's six minutes left.
- 1:14:39But first we're gonna give you're going to give us three
- 1:14:44three facts about game three and then we're going to have a
- 1:14:47chance to comment about him. Here we go.
- 1:14:50All right. So before number six, Before I
- 1:14:53get to that Nathan, I'm gonna plug on your mouth.
- 1:14:56There's any more comments at the private chat about what you just
- 1:14:58got a bath. But let's start with some
- 1:15:00penalty numbers because there are a lot of them in a game.
- 1:15:03Number three, the Oilers had 21 penalties for 85 penalty
- 1:15:07minutes, combined eight different players for penalized
- 1:15:09second, most ever for one team and the fourth most ever in one
- 1:15:13Stanley Cup game as far as a total myth and actually wasn't
- 1:15:16even the most recently too Florida and Vegas had won in
- 1:15:18game two where there were 95 total pedaling minutes.
- 1:15:21So the Oilers the Panthers are definitely used to, but it's for
- 1:15:24the Oilers in this game as a Vander, Kane led, the bunch in
- 1:15:27that. That one is number six.
- 1:15:28We'll go to number five. Number five, the Panthers won
- 1:15:32game. Three, six to one despite being
- 1:15:34out in the game 33 to 31, which is the third largest margin in
- 1:15:40NBA and NHL history for a team that got out shot, the 1991.
- 1:15:44Penguins actually have the record, they won the game 8,
- 1:15:46nothing and they were outshot 31 to 28, and then the Bruins
- 1:15:50against the Canucks, this was actually a bigger one, the
- 1:15:53Canucks out, shot him by seven but the Bruins on the game, 8 to
- 1:15:561 and that one Number four. And the last one we got for this
- 1:16:00game in the modern era, game 3608 that does not necessarily
- 1:16:05correlate as much as winning game.
- 1:16:07One, two or four in the salary cap era.
- 1:16:09So since 2005 teams to go on to win game, 3 only win the Stanley
- 1:16:14Cup 42.1 percent at the time. And since 1967, they have only
- 1:16:18one 62.5% of times that's poached.
- 1:16:21Original six Arrow. All right, time to comment
- 1:16:25Errol. Ah, well I I'm not a
- 1:16:28statistician. I will say this but it's pretty
- 1:16:31simple. Florida has been Sensational in
- 1:16:34this series and we'll see how Edmonton Works their their magic
- 1:16:38in this series. If they don't it could be a
- 1:16:42five-game series. I I could see this series going
- 1:16:45in five. I really do Florida is just that
- 1:16:48good and they're just so talented offensively.
- 1:16:51They're good on all four lines. We all know, economic David is,
- 1:16:54he's a sensational plays, the best player in the world, try
- 1:16:57title, but two players can't be at a whole team as good as
- 1:17:01Edmonton. Has been all season long and
- 1:17:03they got a good young coach, who's one of the more?
- 1:17:06A talented hockey Minds. We've seen in a very, you know,
- 1:17:09remember, Mark Crawford with the Colorado.
- 1:17:11Avalanche just goes over to win. A Stanley Cup.
- 1:17:13Remember that 96 when they won the Stanley Cup?
- 1:17:16And they beat the Florida Panthers and John Vance?
- 1:17:17That's what not block reminds me of, but I think it's just a
- 1:17:21better version of them. He's a great two-dimensional
- 1:17:24mind that the NHL and the Rangers missed.
- 1:17:28And that's why he's winning right now with the Edmonton
- 1:17:31Oilers as he's gone back to back years to a Stanley Cup finals
- 1:17:34and the Rangers haven't been to a Stanley Cup finals since what
- 1:17:372014. I mean, I rest my case, the
- 1:17:42Rangers are stupid organizations.
- 1:17:43So I just speaking the truth, how do we get to the Rangers
- 1:17:46being stupid? They had not get to them later.
- 1:17:50They had no, we will let this plenty to say about the Rangers
- 1:17:54being stupid. Well, and not block.
- 1:17:55That's all I'm gonna say. And a part of the ways with him.
- 1:17:58Well, I remember the Rangers face in this Florida team last
- 1:18:00year and I couldn't get over how annoying it was to play that
- 1:18:04team. Look at this.
- 1:18:05Light. This is Sam Bennett that just
- 1:18:08showed you the shift, he had doing everything and ended with
- 1:18:11a breakaway goal. What happened?
- 1:18:12Almost immediately after that? Oh, slash him start a huge
- 1:18:16fight. They go on the power play again
- 1:18:18and then they capitalize again. And this game, okay, don't like
- 1:18:23how to play against this team and teams have hated playing the
- 1:18:28Panthers because of how they play, they grind out all four
- 1:18:31lines. Now they have Marshawn on the
- 1:18:33team that it's just another guy like that who's Elite at being
- 1:18:37that, you know, just tough guy. You always want like one or two
- 1:18:40guys like that on your squad. They've got like six and like
- 1:18:43three of them, having Elite skill.
- 1:18:45It's crazy how good morning goes.
- 1:18:49To the Boston. Bruins in the offseason Marshawn
- 1:18:52will be a free agent. That's where he goes back.
- 1:18:54He goes back with the ruins. I do believe that it's mourner
- 1:18:58wherever he goes, he's not staying with Toronto.
- 1:19:00I, I seriously the Bruins or Vegas, probably the favorite.
- 1:19:04I could see the Islanders too. I think the Islanders don't make
- 1:19:06a run with him too. If they go have some cap room, I
- 1:19:10don't think the Rangers have enough cap room.
- 1:19:11The get him. He's gonna want they do now.
- 1:19:13He's gonna watch 12 million. What?
- 1:19:15How they got 15 right now. I'll talk about in a second,
- 1:19:19speedy. Number three.
- 1:19:22All right, so this one is four game this game game four going
- 1:19:25on right now, this is how much the Panthers have dominated so
- 1:19:27far. They have the Edmonton Oilers
- 1:19:30have more block shots 8 than they do shots on goal.
- 1:19:33Five, Florida between the block shots and the shots on goal have
- 1:19:37outshot Edmonton by Ram 21 to 8 so far in this game.
- 1:19:42So that's number one number two, number two.
- 1:19:47Okay, you said my rear end is burning, so it's at Aaron Echo.
- 1:19:51That actually is either second or a not even second in ice time
- 1:19:54right now among defencemen for the Florida Panthers, that's how
- 1:19:56efficient that they've been Seth.
- 1:19:57Jones actually leads in the total ice time right now.
- 1:19:59And then Niko mikkola Rangers Legends another one.
- 1:20:02Actually it's second right now. So they're actually doing well
- 1:20:05amidst leaving eclat on the bench a little more often and
- 1:20:09then the flip side for Edmonton less of their their top defense
- 1:20:12that are playing as much guys like Darnell nurse last time in
- 1:20:15this game. And Bouchard last night's time
- 1:20:18in this game. Then break cool, black and gold.
- 1:20:21So, maybe not gonna make a couple of adjustments here at
- 1:20:24this point, girl. Number one, and we rounded out
- 1:20:28with the goal scorer, the lone goal scorer in this game.
- 1:20:30Matthew tkachuk who, like Harold saying on Monday has not had the
- 1:20:34greatest Stanley Cup so far but it's not even the longest
- 1:20:37drought that he's had this postseason.
- 1:20:38He did not score a single goal against the Toronto Maple Leafs.
- 1:20:41And that's currently his longest playoff drought record.
- 1:20:44Nine games in a row that he had without a goal breaking, his
- 1:20:48previous record where he's tied for seven, seven in a row on two
- 1:20:51different occasions when he was with the flames and his first
- 1:20:54year with the Florida Panthers. Bonus Ranger's thing, bonus,
- 1:20:59Ranger's thing, the deal has been done.
- 1:21:02We were talking about it. Maybe being rumored Chris
- 1:21:04Kreider is on his way to the new Rangers West.
- 1:21:08The Anaheim Ducks joining. Jacob trouba Ryan, Ryan strome,
- 1:21:13and Frank patrono out there with the Anaheim Ducks with you.
- 1:21:17For maybe they might as well get a glass over there as a
- 1:21:20statistic coach at this point, right?
- 1:21:22Get the 2022. Ranger's reassembled all
- 1:21:25together and recreate something in Anaheim with that young team
- 1:21:28over there. Oh, Better than this year's
- 1:21:32version. Errol got anything on tonight's
- 1:21:35game four and the rest of the series.
- 1:21:36Yeah Florida wins tonight. They win in five.
- 1:21:39It looks like this series is pretty much over I I can't see
- 1:21:43Edmonton coming back. I think Florida.
- 1:21:45Showed you why they're dominated it shows you why they won last
- 1:21:48year. And I think they're going to
- 1:21:49show you why they're going to win, back-to-backs.
- 1:21:52And it might even win next year because I have a ton of talent
- 1:21:55still on this team and on this roster and I don't think they're
- 1:21:58losing any of this talent in the offices.
- 1:22:00I think they're all under contract.
- 1:22:01The only one that's questionable.
- 1:22:02I think is Bennett. He's a free agent.
- 1:22:03Yeah, but I don't think it makes a difference their stars and all
- 1:22:06their, their top players are still going to be there next
- 1:22:08year and except maybe pop Rocky. He could retire.
- 1:22:12I mean, obviously, 3839 years old.
- 1:22:14What more does he need to do? That's, that's the question,
- 1:22:17right. Does he need to does?
- 1:22:19He want to come back and win back to back to back?
- 1:22:22I don't think we've seen in NHL team do that.
- 1:22:24So I don't think this is the original set.
- 1:22:26Yeah, I don't think we've seen it.
- 1:22:27A team three people, so maybe Bob brodski comes back next
- 1:22:30year. If Florida wins to try to do
- 1:22:32something, That we have not seen, so maybe that happens.
- 1:22:35I think I think obviously the Florida Panthers have been the
- 1:22:40most dominant team for the last three years.
- 1:22:42Even three years at even when they didn't win with the talent
- 1:22:46that they put together. And and really instilled with a
- 1:22:49draft, it's been amazing story. Congratulations to the Florida
- 1:22:52Panthers and all their success. So so Kreider, Was the story why
- 1:22:58they have all this. They got rid of Kreider.
- 1:22:59They got rid of the entire cap charge so they have 15 million
- 1:23:03of cap. So 15 million would be enough to
- 1:23:07get more in there. So going to try to trades the
- 1:23:10bandage Ed, they're going to blow the whole thing up.
- 1:23:12Why would they get born or when they have the same player in
- 1:23:15Panera? That why do they need him?
- 1:23:18Well, you put him on. He's not going to the Ranger
- 1:23:20play. The same stop with this.
- 1:23:22He's not going to the Rangers. He's not, I don't know.
- 1:23:24I don't know what, look, if regardless of what, they're what
- 1:23:27that is. It's allowed the Rangers.
- 1:23:29Now to have the flexibility to make major moves.
- 1:23:31This offseason. Kreider was the Rangers hard and
- 1:23:35soul for the last decade. 13 years.
- 1:23:37Was it speedy that he was 20 years.
- 1:23:39He came up during the 2012 playoffs when they play remember
- 1:23:42that, it was the round before they played.
- 1:23:44I think they played Washington, I think they have a better
- 1:23:46chance of getting Sidney Crosby or Malkin.
- 1:23:48Then getting something you really think they're going
- 1:23:51anywhere. Why not why not why not?
- 1:23:54I think. Okay go back to Russia or
- 1:23:57something? No I think Balkans call the
- 1:24:00Chuck did it everybody fuck Cole Chuck wasn't gonna leave and he
- 1:24:03had such successful career and I think the same thing with
- 1:24:06marketing I think Malcolm will eventually go younger.
- 1:24:09He waited out his welcome over there with the with the Penguins
- 1:24:13and then he was a he moved from Team to team to team taking as
- 1:24:17much money. You possibly can.
- 1:24:18I'm not saying that's who Malkin is but I could see Malkin going
- 1:24:22to the Rangers. Why not?
- 1:24:23If they if the Rangers are missing one forward or one
- 1:24:27offensive forward, it makes more sense from walking.
- 1:24:30The Monarch you do not need another Panera in on your roster
- 1:24:33and that's what he is and he's gonna want 12 or 13 million.
- 1:24:37You're gonna tell me you're gonna give a goalie 11 million,
- 1:24:40you're gonna give more to 12 million and you're gonna give
- 1:24:43Panera in almost 11 and a half million.
- 1:24:45Does that make sense that you're going to give three players
- 1:24:48almost more than a quarter of your team's money?
- 1:24:50Doesn't make sense. That's why I don't think Marner
- 1:24:53is going to the range. I think they're going to put
- 1:24:55that up and if they want to spend the money, but I'm not
- 1:24:58gonna bet on Chris Jerry, because that guy's a complete
- 1:25:00moron. So I, I think he'll absolutely
- 1:25:04screw this up for the New York Rangers.
- 1:25:05So Could chuck just got his second goal of the Night.
- 1:25:09By the way, I'm watching it. We have it on right now.
- 1:25:11So by the way, am I right about this the stream, this is much
- 1:25:15better. No freezing, no nothing.
- 1:25:17And we're right on target, ladies and gentlemen, right?
- 1:25:19On target. Anyways, before we get our
- 1:25:22guests and we go to our Sports minute.
- 1:25:24I want to tell you what, my deuce of the day is the deuce.
- 1:25:28Not a lot. I don't have a lot but Oh, my
- 1:25:40deuce of the day goes to, why shouldn't it be Aaron Rodgers,
- 1:25:45as a story came out over the last 24 to 48 hours, Aaron
- 1:25:51Rodgers, got married before he decided to sign his contract
- 1:25:54with the Steelers. That's why he took all this time
- 1:25:57to figure out if you wanted to come back and.
- 1:26:01And what makes the story even more funny here is?
- 1:26:03Nobody knows who she is except her first name, and her first
- 1:26:07name is Brittany. Nobody knows who she is.
- 1:26:09There's no pictures. All of a social media as far as
- 1:26:13I'm concerned. Aaron Rodgers, married his hand
- 1:26:15and he named it Brittany. Okay, that's what I think Aaron
- 1:26:20Rodgers is not married and for anybody to believe that he
- 1:26:24married somebody with the name. Brittany, he married his hand
- 1:26:26and he's playing himself. He should know a Brittany
- 1:26:29though. Well I do, I'm dating one
- 1:26:32anyways, my deuce of the day goes to Aaron Rodgers and his
- 1:26:36freaking handbrake me. Congratulations.
- 1:26:38To his marriage. I wonder if he's wearing a ring
- 1:26:40on that hand when he throws a football.
- 1:26:43That's my due to the daylilies and gentlemen.
- 1:26:47It. When we come back, I knew you
- 1:26:49were going to laugh at that fish.
- 1:26:50When we come back, he's been on our show before.
- 1:26:53We're very happy to get him on again.
- 1:26:55We will be talking to you, SF basketball, assistant head,
- 1:26:58coach Tobin Anderson. But first, our Sports made it
- 1:27:02with the fish. Fish is the Java and the mouth
- 1:27:08Sportsman's. All right guys, Aaron Fishman
- 1:27:12here with your sports minute. Got a few stories before we get
- 1:27:15into the scores, this evening Celtics star Wing.
- 1:27:18Jalen Brown went underwent, Arthur Scotty surgery on his
- 1:27:21right knee on Wednesday. The teen expects him to be ready
- 1:27:24for training camp without limitation.
- 1:27:26Round finished a regular season and played in the playoffs
- 1:27:29through the pain, taking pain medication injections to keep it
- 1:27:32going. The Celtics who are upset in six
- 1:27:35games by the Knicks in the conference semis lost.
- 1:27:38Their other star Jayson Tatum to a torn Achilles at the end of
- 1:27:41game 4 and will likely play the entire season.
- 1:27:43Without him a healthy Brown is necessary for the Celtics have
- 1:27:47any semblance of success next year and what is expected to be
- 1:27:50a busy offseason for Brad Stevens and Joe Missoula.
- 1:27:54In bing Town, Brewers pitcher, Aaron savali has asked the
- 1:27:59organization for a trade after. He was moved into a long relief
- 1:28:02role with top pitching Pro. Jacob mizerowski is call up
- 1:28:06tonight savali who is one and two with a 491 era and Five
- 1:28:10Stars this season, is a free agent.
- 1:28:12After the year svali asked for a trade through his agent, Jack
- 1:28:16toffee and the conversation with GM Accord, Matt Arnold.
- 1:28:20According to toppy was very professional.
- 1:28:22I just very respectfully said that Aaron would like an
- 1:28:26opportunity to continue his career.
- 1:28:28As a starter, he's going to be a free agent at the end of the
- 1:28:30year despite his insistence that things were amicable between
- 1:28:34sivani and the franchise Brewers manager, Pat Murphy had a
- 1:28:37different take on the matter. He's not happy.
- 1:28:41Proudest career. He's been a successful star in a
- 1:28:43major league. He helped us last year.
- 1:28:44He's been fine. Even though he's never done it,
- 1:28:47we think he can handle that. You look at sabales third time
- 1:28:49around numbers, he might be better suited on this year's
- 1:28:52team right now, to disrupt everything else.
- 1:28:54Less if you can be in that long relief, role, the Brewers sound
- 1:28:58sent down, surprising rookie, Logan Henderson earlier this
- 1:29:00year and kept Sivan in the rotation but he did not survive.
- 1:29:03The top prospect being called up as the rotation now.
- 1:29:06Boast meses, fellow rookie Chad Patrick Freddy Peralta Jose
- 1:29:11Quintana and queen Priester and the Mets lost starting pitcher
- 1:29:16kodai senga today to the ill after he was injured racing to
- 1:29:20cover first base on a ground ball in the sixth inning of the
- 1:29:23Mets for three win this afternoon, over the Nationals,
- 1:29:25Sangha paired to pull his hamstring, running to the bag,
- 1:29:29then reach for a high, throw from Alonzo to make the play and
- 1:29:32crumbled in a keep on the ground after making a play.
- 1:29:35He was able to walk off with a noticeable limp after training
- 1:29:39to him off the field. The severity of the injury will
- 1:29:42be discovered with an MRI tomorrow, but the injury is bad
- 1:29:44enough that the Mets Immediately put them on the Ile, senga is 7
- 1:29:48and 3 with a 147 era and a 1/11 whip in 73.2 in each pitch with
- 1:29:5570 strikeouts. First place Mets, will have to
- 1:29:57make do without their best picture so far this season for
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- 1:32:39USF, basketball assistant head coach, our friend Tobin
- 1:32:43Anderson. Told him, what's up, buddy?
- 1:32:46What's up, fellas? How are you?
- 1:32:47We're good man. I mean, obviously, you're you're
- 1:32:51sitting pretty, you're an assistant coach for USF.
- 1:32:53You have a good basketball program over there.
- 1:32:55I believe that you're going to get another head coaching job
- 1:32:58more sooner than later. Tell us a little bit about your
- 1:33:02time in Iona and what worked and what didn't work and why
- 1:33:05obviously, did you choose USF in the offseason?
- 1:33:09Yes. So, you know, it's been a crazy
- 1:33:12last few months obviously and and, you know, crazy last few
- 1:33:16years and so we had to run it up to you.
- 1:33:18You are your D2 head coach Jeff to you and things rolled along
- 1:33:21pretty good with Iona. And, you know, to be quite
- 1:33:25honest, we had a lot of rebuilding to do and I really
- 1:33:28felt good about where we were going.
- 1:33:30What we were doing? We were 12 and 4 for the last
- 1:33:32two months with the conference Championship and almost in, you
- 1:33:35know, they were I was told I couldn't, you know, I was done
- 1:33:38there. So it was a harsh, a harsh end
- 1:33:41to what I thought was a very promising situation, like I
- 1:33:44don't feel bad about what we We did there at all, you know, as a
- 1:33:48rebellion, I've, I've been ahead.
- 1:33:49I've been a college coach, right?
- 1:33:50Six head jobs right division, three division two division one.
- 1:33:53My journey has been a little bit crazier than most so I feel good
- 1:33:58about the direction we're heading, it didn't happen as
- 1:34:00quick as fdu, but like fdu was kind of a crazy one year 10
- 1:34:05month. Um, that doesn't happen all the
- 1:34:07time and that's like, that's like a minor miracle.
- 1:34:09I'm just be honest with you, right?
- 1:34:10So, um, you can't walk in every place and and go and win, two
- 1:34:15NCAA games and go to the tournament have all kinds of
- 1:34:17success so it took us one more time to get going on.
- 1:34:20Iona, not as quick as I wanted us because other people wanted
- 1:34:22and but I think we had to go in and I love the.
- 1:34:25I actually had a really enjoyable year to be.
- 1:34:27I was with you. I really enjoyed the team and
- 1:34:28enjoy the guys, the staff. We got off to a really slow
- 1:34:32start and then we turned the whole thing around.
- 1:34:34So I actually really enjoyed the year and had a great time and
- 1:34:37have nothing but great memories until the until the very end at
- 1:34:41the very end was not great. And so I've um, it's that
- 1:34:44happened and it was a shocking thing for me.
- 1:34:46And in with this thing's, those things happen to your staff,
- 1:34:50your family is effective more than anything else, you know,
- 1:34:53we're going to go find some place else.
- 1:34:54So I had some options but I think I found a great option in
- 1:34:59University of South Florida. Brian Hodgson, he helped build.
- 1:35:02Both the Buffalo program. The Alabama program has an
- 1:35:05unbelievable success. Then, you know, people label him
- 1:35:08as an unbelievable. Recruiter that the best
- 1:35:10recruiter in the country. He's also held a coach.
- 1:35:12He won 25 games. The last couple years at
- 1:35:14Arkansas, State won the conference two times.
- 1:35:16And so, I think we're in a great spot down here is, obviously,
- 1:35:19it's a great place to live the sun shines.
- 1:35:21My pool is right outside my door.
- 1:35:23Right here, I get up the morning, I jump in the pool.
- 1:35:25I swim around for a little bit, I come home at night to get the
- 1:35:28pool again. It's not a bad life.
- 1:35:29My family is still open New York for a few more weeks.
- 1:35:31So I'm kind of a bachelor here for a while.
- 1:35:33Don't jump up, don't call job. He might get you opened out
- 1:35:40here. You want to play 100%?
- 1:35:42I'm always in. Yeah, eligibility.
- 1:35:46It's a good place to live and and we're gonna get things going
- 1:35:49down here and make. And go, the NCAA tournament.
- 1:35:52I'm lucky to be your happy to be here.
- 1:35:54Just gonna be a lot of fun. So, I want to take that your
- 1:35:56predecessor. Obviously Rick Pitino at Iona,
- 1:35:58obviously, making big waves at Saint John's this year.
- 1:36:00They were number two seed in the NCAA tournament.
- 1:36:02Did he have any connection with him?
- 1:36:04But when you got the Iona job and what is your thoughts?
- 1:36:06Everything that's gone on with that program.
- 1:36:08With Saint John's. Well, first of all, he's one of
- 1:36:10the best if not the best college coach is in the top three of all
- 1:36:14time, right? And there's no doubt about it
- 1:36:16and probably have, you know, John Wooden coach K and Rick
- 1:36:19Pitino as far just having that kind of success.
- 1:36:21And so, yeah, I mean, I know I knew of it, I knew of and we
- 1:36:24knew each other a little bit from the five star basketball
- 1:36:26camp. We crossed paths a few times.
- 1:36:28I got the job. We talked a couple times here
- 1:36:31and there, but, you know, listen, he's got a big job to do
- 1:36:33it Saint John's and, and he's an unbelievable job there.
- 1:36:36And that place was rocking this. Your New York City was going, it
- 1:36:38was going great. And I think quite frankly,
- 1:36:40probably heard us that I own it, because I think I only wanted to
- 1:36:43be do the same thing. The same John's did and his
- 1:36:45people will tell you it. You know, there's there's with
- 1:36:47the money that way it is now with with the nil and now the
- 1:36:51revenue sharing, it's a different world, the whole
- 1:36:53thing's changed, it's like you have to have the resources of
- 1:36:56financial resources to compete at the highest level.
- 1:36:59And so he obviously has that same John's, but he also is a
- 1:37:02hell of a coach and does a great job and it knows how to motivate
- 1:37:06young man and get the most out of them.
- 1:37:09So he's doing Great job of Saint, John's incredible.
- 1:37:11And it's fun to watch to be fun to watch, and, and I'm excited
- 1:37:15to see. They they have a great class
- 1:37:17coming initially. They should be a top three
- 1:37:18program in the country this year, too.
- 1:37:20So number, he doesn't, he was a great coach.
- 1:37:22Now, when he left there, wasn't much left that Iona, you know, I
- 1:37:25just be honest, he took, he took the took a lot of all the
- 1:37:28players and most of furniture, a lot of things, but like that.
- 1:37:31And so we had, we had a totally rebuilt, which is fine, that's,
- 1:37:34that's part of what it is right now.
- 1:37:35And so, I think, um, as a college coach, you have to just,
- 1:37:39you have to, you have to figure out how to win this climate.
- 1:37:43And I think I could just say, for being here, for two months
- 1:37:46and being around Brian Hobson, who's at Alabama with the
- 1:37:48highest level. I learned a ton about recruiting
- 1:37:50and succeeding at this level at the highest level at the highest
- 1:37:54level. So Tobin night you're obviously
- 1:37:58from Iowa. I'm from the Nebraska.
- 1:38:00Yep, that's part of it. But the one thing that I always
- 1:38:04under Try to understand, but I don't.
- 1:38:08Is my son is now he's at a junior college and so, you've
- 1:38:12coached that so many different levels.
- 1:38:16What is the difference between those levels and how you get
- 1:38:22kids to it, either a different level, whether Toto, because I
- 1:38:26started V2 and then I went there.
- 1:38:28But you as a coach seeing it from a different perspective, me
- 1:38:32seeing it. Now as a father, like, I would
- 1:38:36like to know because I'm trying to learn every day and as we all
- 1:38:41should, But you as a coach seeing it, so many Dynamics.
- 1:38:47How do you see what what is the difference?
- 1:38:51What, I'll tell you, right, when you cross a lines, it's it's all
- 1:38:56the same, right? And so we had, we had, you know,
- 1:38:59I was a division two. We had a really good players,
- 1:39:01really good team. And when we made a runner to
- 1:39:04you, we brought three starters from division, two to division
- 1:39:07one and they were through the best players of the court in the
- 1:39:10NCAA tournament, right? We signed here at USF?
- 1:39:12I think four guys who played, who started at the division, two
- 1:39:15level And now our transferring division one and are doing
- 1:39:18great. So there's great players.
- 1:39:20I don't care where you play Juco, NAIA division 2 division.
- 1:39:24Three division, one, you can be a really good player at all
- 1:39:27levels to succeed. Then, once you cross those
- 1:39:30lines, it's all the same. Obviously, you know, that you go
- 1:39:33up the level, more resources, more more, help more.
- 1:39:36You know, we get a strength coach, we got a nutritionist.
- 1:39:40We got a, we fly. We fly.
- 1:39:42We chartered all our games. You know things?
- 1:39:44Listen, I, I was a division two. We were driving Vans to games,
- 1:39:47you know? Like, I'm used to, I'm like a
- 1:39:49blue. I'm like, hey, I've been there.
- 1:39:51I get it, trust me. I know, I know this is gonna
- 1:39:56bother me as far as like. Well, this is not, what is good.
- 1:39:59It should be. But like now you get the
- 1:40:00resources, so you have to be able to use those to the best of
- 1:40:03your ability. But I think if the end of the
- 1:40:05day, it's about getting the right kind of kids who compete
- 1:40:07who play hard, who played together and wanted to do
- 1:40:10something special and that's what you're trying to do.
- 1:40:11I don't care. You're at division, three, two,
- 1:40:13one Juke Robert said, like I'll tell you what, Juco, players and
- 1:40:17Juco. Coaches are having a lot of
- 1:40:19success right now because they're used to kind of like
- 1:40:21scrambled and finding the right kind of mix and the right kind
- 1:40:23of formula and you're seeing a lot of guys, I mean the head
- 1:40:27coach of Texas Tech Grant McCausland, it was a Juco coach,
- 1:40:30right Brian. Hodge my boss started out a
- 1:40:32junior college, right? There's a lot of guys in junior
- 1:40:34college who are doing great things and it's kind of get the
- 1:40:38world's got a little bit crazy where it's like, you have to put
- 1:40:40things together in a short period of time.
- 1:40:42And I think the key is just getting the right kind of kids
- 1:40:44who can who can, who at the end of the day.
- 1:40:46It's still about competing, right?
- 1:40:48It's still about. I don't care what level.
- 1:40:50It's about how hard you want to play, how much better you want
- 1:40:52to get. And so you gotta find the right
- 1:40:54kind of guys who will do that. But I've, I've enjoyed all
- 1:40:56levels. I loved, I loved division two,
- 1:40:59maybe most of all because we just kind of a little more,
- 1:41:01like, hardcore, Blue Collar, like we walk in the gym and
- 1:41:05sometimes, did you feel like you had something to prove?
- 1:41:08Because I wasn't that one. Yeah.
- 1:41:10Chip on her shoulder, right? And the best guys, I've coached
- 1:41:13always had a chip on their shoulder.
- 1:41:14I think, I think that's that's what You want to find guys who
- 1:41:17want to prove themselves and that's why when I went to Ft and
- 1:41:20the three guys that brought with me, they were trying to prove
- 1:41:23hey, we can play to Vision when we're we're able to play at this
- 1:41:26level and that kind of gave them an edge for that whole year and
- 1:41:29I was a division, two coach. I wanted to prove to that.
- 1:41:31I could win that level. Let's count.
- 1:41:32What? What pisses me off about what
- 1:41:34happened. I own it because I'm like, we
- 1:41:35were still doing good things and moving in the right direction.
- 1:41:38And but the reality is, sometimes people always see it
- 1:41:42that way. And people love you don't see it
- 1:41:44that way. So you have to kind of like,
- 1:41:45that's the way it is, he movable, and you have was been
- 1:41:47good for me, is I've talked a lot of pro coaches.
- 1:41:50And like, no, they just fired Tom Thibodeau for the next,
- 1:41:52right? Tomb of those team of the
- 1:41:54Eastern Conference Finals, it is like, that's stuff happens.
- 1:41:57Sometimes, like you can't sit around and worry about it, or
- 1:42:01pity me or feel, sorry for yourself.
- 1:42:02Yes, suck it up and go back, right back at it.
- 1:42:05We are talking to you. SF basketball, assistant head,
- 1:42:08coach Tobin Anderson. He's been on our show.
- 1:42:10He was the head coach of Iona last year. 17 and 17 a record.
- 1:42:16That was over 500. Like he was saying, you know,
- 1:42:19being that you're 500, he shouldn't have been let go.
- 1:42:22But obviously, I only wanted to go another route.
- 1:42:25You know what's interesting to me to open.
- 1:42:27I've, I've never been a coach and I never tried to recruit
- 1:42:30players. I as a radio guy, you know, I
- 1:42:33try to recruit people to come on our show.
- 1:42:35And how do I do that? I show them a different
- 1:42:38attitude, a different look to sports media.
- 1:42:40We're not like everybody else and I want people to know, we're
- 1:42:44not like every other interviewer.
- 1:42:45We go out there, we try to be different.
- 1:42:48We try to be funny. Well, we don't try, we just talk
- 1:42:50crazy, but the same thing, when you go into a house and you're
- 1:42:54trying to recruit somebody, now, you have Rick Pitino or you have
- 1:42:57somebody of, that'll Coach K these big names.
- 1:43:00Oh my god. When Nick Saban, you know, when
- 1:43:02they go into your home, you're like, oh my God, it's Nick
- 1:43:05Saban, he's sitting right in front of me.
- 1:43:06Ah, I watched him when five national championships and then
- 1:43:10you're like just enamored by who he is Rick Pitino.
- 1:43:13He's been over there in the NBA, he's made.
- 1:43:16Roots of millions of dollars as a head coach, and he's now
- 1:43:20coaching Saint John. So, the first thing that pops in
- 1:43:22your head, when you're you want to go over there to see.
- 1:43:25John says, when am I going to meet Rick Pitino?
- 1:43:27I don't care about this recruiter.
- 1:43:29I don't care about this. Lady coming into my house and
- 1:43:31telling me about my academic opportunities.
- 1:43:34I don't give a crap, I care about playing in the NBA and
- 1:43:37Rick goddamn Pitino. So you, you're obviously your
- 1:43:42head coach, you over there D1 and you're walking into these
- 1:43:45kids house, okay? And yeah, you have Rick Pitino.
- 1:43:48You have all these different guys coming in.
- 1:43:50Okay. Oh, hold on there.
- 1:43:51Yeah, they don't do that as much as they used to.
- 1:43:54Well, hold on, why why has that changed?
- 1:43:57But I'll let you answer that question but I want to know how
- 1:44:00how to open when he is picking somebody that he wants to go to
- 1:44:04and try to sell to his parents. Do you go in there with a
- 1:44:08suitcase and a suit on? And he said, oh, I got a Swindle
- 1:44:12his mom and hope his father's, not a big ass hole or Are you
- 1:44:16gonna go in there? And you're gonna say, listen,
- 1:44:18I'm gonna wear my nice Jordans, I'm gonna wear, you know, I'm
- 1:44:22gonna wear my Nike sweats and I'm gonna walk right in and say,
- 1:44:26listen, come to my school because I'm gonna let you hang
- 1:44:29free. I'm gonna let those balls, hang
- 1:44:32free, and mom and dad can come and watch, you play, anytime you
- 1:44:36want, and you can sleep with this woman and that woman, it
- 1:44:39doesn't matter. Come to USF, come to you, come
- 1:44:43to Iona, and you get a chance to experience, what it is to be a
- 1:44:47great basketball player and work with a great head coach.
- 1:44:50Is that how you do it, or do you do it?
- 1:44:52That's why, you know, he was an ecologist.
- 1:44:55I first of all, I wouldn't by the way, by the way, to open, he
- 1:45:00always stayed. I would have been a college
- 1:45:02athlete if I didn't hurt my knee.
- 1:45:03Okay, I was a really great hockey player and I was playing,
- 1:45:07I was gonna play D1 hockey and I hurt my knee.
- 1:45:10So obviously I'm not chopping Chamberlain, who played for the
- 1:45:13New York Yankees, but maybe I was, I would have Been drafted
- 1:45:16by the maple leaf. So the Montreal Canadians like
- 1:45:18some of my counterparts were when I play Team USA Hockey.
- 1:45:21So eat your ass Java. Go ahead Tobin.
- 1:45:25First of all, I love you. I remember watching job with the
- 1:45:27Yankees and enjoying that whole, that whole, that whole run here,
- 1:45:30which was awesome. But listen, I I'm a little bit
- 1:45:33like you, you gotta be an orthodox when you don't have a
- 1:45:36big name or the big, the big, all the patina, the sheki, the
- 1:45:40that behind. You gotta be a little bit
- 1:45:42different, right? You guys, you gotta sell.
- 1:45:43You gotta sell your stuff like, for us.
- 1:45:45We always play up Temple. Press play fast like play like
- 1:45:49an NBA style. That's how Brian plays here to
- 1:45:50USF. So, like you get you to sell,
- 1:45:53like, no. There is job right there.
- 1:45:54Um, get a sell something different.
- 1:45:57Like that's like a chip on your shoulder, trying to prove
- 1:45:59yourself things have changed. That's about the money, the
- 1:46:02money, the money is the biggest. I mean, that's part of the
- 1:46:04conversation, we don't go into people's homes and more as much
- 1:46:06anymore, we try to sell plain time.
- 1:46:08We try to sell style of play. We try to sell relationships,
- 1:46:11but the relationships are a lot quicker.
- 1:46:13Like, a lot of these guys. We have, we may only have him
- 1:46:15here for like 10 months, you know, the guards, I had enough
- 1:46:18to you. They played 150 college games
- 1:46:21for me, 150, right? That's a lot of college
- 1:46:24basketball games, guys. We have now.
- 1:46:27Most important one season one season, and they move on.
- 1:46:30So, it's a whole different world right now.
- 1:46:31So, I just think those relationships are still
- 1:46:33important, though. Like, you gotta be on the gym
- 1:46:35with them, you gotta be part. You got to be part of their
- 1:46:37lives. You gotta you guys spend time
- 1:46:38with them. I don't talk to the parents as
- 1:46:41much as I used to. You know, we talked to agents.
- 1:46:43Now he talked to more people around them.
- 1:46:46It's like, I don't necessarily love doing that all the time,
- 1:46:49the ice, the agents, don't you love them?
- 1:46:52They're Pros. Now, they're making money,
- 1:46:54they're professionals. They have to kind of deal with
- 1:46:56the things himself a little bit too.
- 1:46:57You know, how do you sell yourself to an agent?
- 1:46:59I mean, you're calling them up and saying, hey, I'm hoping
- 1:47:02Anderson your son or your because some of these guys have
- 1:47:06their fathers as their agent, your son, or your your cousin
- 1:47:10can come over here. Yeah.
- 1:47:12I'll get, I'll throw, I'll sleep you. 100 thou or I'll slip you
- 1:47:15an autographed jersey by chop a Chamberlain.
- 1:47:17If you're a job, a fan, just come over here to Us.
- 1:47:20South. How do you do it?
- 1:47:21Like what do you say that? You've been to Tampa like you
- 1:47:24should come down and tell you what this is.
- 1:47:26It's a hell of a living, the beaches and restaurants and bar
- 1:47:29scene. And I was down town this past
- 1:47:30weekend. I mean I was still down town for
- 1:47:34a college where you at Channelside or right Channel
- 1:47:38Side. Water side down there.
- 1:47:39That whole that whole area, I lived there for 13 years.
- 1:47:43Oh I tell you what, if you're in college at College age or that
- 1:47:48area somewhere, man, it's a great place to live great.
- 1:47:50I mean, it's great. Great, South Tampa.
- 1:47:56I've been in quite a few of those places already.
- 1:47:58I've been down to Ybor City, right?
- 1:48:01A lot of a lot of good spots down there so it's a great place
- 1:48:05to live. Great place to go to school.
- 1:48:06They have some money now, and our facilities are Top Notch and
- 1:48:11listen, if we start winning, we'll still out. 15,000 people
- 1:48:14be packed into Arena, and it's gonna be big, we're playing a
- 1:48:17hell of a schedule playing. We're playing great teams.
- 1:48:19So it's a great, a great situation and the biggest thing
- 1:48:23is, hey you get better, you play a good style, get a chance to go
- 1:48:26play, you know, a lot of guys go play in the NBA or go play the G
- 1:48:29League or go play overseas. So, it's a, it's a, you got to
- 1:48:31sell that and sell those relationships and, you know, my
- 1:48:35boss Brian. He's put 15 guys in the NBA and
- 1:48:38the last five years. So he's had a lot of success
- 1:48:40putting guys from Alabama and they guys from Buffalo and the
- 1:48:43NBA. So we're we're trying to keep on
- 1:48:45doing that. So I wanted to ask about the
- 1:48:47kind of the modern changes in college sports that we've seen
- 1:48:49obviously the transfer portal being the biggest one.
- 1:48:51You saw Florida win a National Championship.
- 1:48:53This past year with a 30 year head coach and a lot of
- 1:48:56transfers and you seen a lot of these other programs really grow
- 1:48:58because of it too. And like you were saying you
- 1:49:00were seeing a lot more stronger, non-conference scheduling than
- 1:49:03you saw in years past where they used to schedule in five years
- 1:49:05at Advance. So what are your thoughts with
- 1:49:06that whole those whole change in?
- 1:49:08How do you think it's affected coaching from your standpoint is
- 1:49:10well, What's going to help the high major level?
- 1:49:13Because a lot of those guys are getting paid money now just and
- 1:49:15they'll stay in college. I wasn't going to the MBA and
- 1:49:17being a second round pick or trying to hang around or
- 1:49:20whatever, they're making more money in college.
- 1:49:22They would be in the pros right now.
- 1:49:23So a lot of guys at the highest of the power of the PowerForce
- 1:49:26and the school's, right? And that in that Stratosphere
- 1:49:29are going to stay in college and make more money.
- 1:49:31So that that's a good thing for that.
- 1:49:34For those schools, right? The mid-majors and low majors
- 1:49:36are getting killed because their best players are getting getting
- 1:49:39eaten up by the high majors are getting poached but those
- 1:49:43schools. And so if I had a good year plan
- 1:49:45for a Lo mejor plan for an fdu playing for Iona, well,
- 1:49:48somebody's going to come in and offer from 500,000 dollars and
- 1:49:51they'll go play for a power 4. So the power for gonna be really
- 1:49:55good. They're playing like you said,
- 1:49:56they're playing better. Schedules of the competitions,
- 1:49:58better more TV games so that part's that part's gotten
- 1:50:02better. Like there's you know, there's
- 1:50:04some really good players that are in college next year that in
- 1:50:07the past were going pro. So I think it's I think in that
- 1:50:10respect is great but For the rest of them.
- 1:50:13There's there's 250 division one schools who don't belong in that
- 1:50:18level, right? And they're kind of like a fish
- 1:50:21out of water. Like what, what is fdu have in
- 1:50:24common with Alabama, right? What's Iona having common with
- 1:50:27Duke? They are Ohio State.
- 1:50:28They don't have their money's not even close to what what they
- 1:50:32have as far as the revenue sharing that nil stuff.
- 1:50:34So it's almost like two different.
- 1:50:36Worlds are exists right now and once once a pretty good world
- 1:50:41and once one's going a little bit, this the separation is get
- 1:50:44old like to see what happens with like Saint Peters, make it
- 1:50:47a run and FDA make it a run and Florida Atlantic.
- 1:50:52Not going to see as much of that anymore.
- 1:50:53It's like Shane McMahon. Remember that money song?
- 1:50:55I I don't know. I I do I did watch wrestling at
- 1:50:59one point money. Money, money, money, money,
- 1:51:00money, money, that's song. That's what, that's what he
- 1:51:03always had money. No, I know, but I'm just
- 1:51:07thinking of the song, I'm thinking of the trial here,
- 1:51:09little mentioned it or Ted TV Aussie the money, what did they
- 1:51:13call in the million dollar, man? So maybe that's what it is.
- 1:51:16Maybe they have Ted TV off hanging out, I don't know.
- 1:51:18I know he's dead broke now. He's an old rap.
- 1:51:21But anyway, Scott, I just want to mention before a job.
- 1:51:23I asked you a question. So you mentioned fouth team that
- 1:51:26I obviously, you guys played and then they end up going to the
- 1:51:29final four. Elijah, Martin was literally on
- 1:51:30that team and now he's a Florida.
- 1:51:32What a champion Johnny, Davis went to Arkansas, went to
- 1:51:36Arkansas. And then Vlad was at Michigan
- 1:51:38last year. And three guys who were who were
- 1:51:40three, you know, for the best players in the country last
- 1:51:42year, who had him going to the highest level?
- 1:51:44They're, they're combined salaries last year.
- 1:51:46Probably about three million dollars.
- 1:51:49So Ben, what do you like? Obviously playing playing
- 1:51:54college sports and now, having a son in college sports.
- 1:51:57Right. Do you think what they're doing
- 1:52:01right now is beneficial, like, and we've had this argument a
- 1:52:05lot about getting paid just on the same.
- 1:52:09But do you? do you think it's helping the
- 1:52:12game or you think it's hurting and some type of capacity or is
- 1:52:18it creating parody to other teams that Yeah, if you if
- 1:52:23you're not going to get that. And now with what just happened,
- 1:52:26obviously we saw that 2.8 billion dollar thing that 20.5
- 1:52:31goes to this school and whatever.
- 1:52:33Do you think that's Helped or hurt because I love seeing it
- 1:52:40from because as a player, I would have loved to get paid and
- 1:52:45do what I do. Like I'm sitting in a College
- 1:52:47World Series and I'm the only person ever went from Nebraska.
- 1:52:52And I would get paid a lot of money.
- 1:52:54Do you think it's? It's hurt the guys.
- 1:52:58Athletically, and that's the question.
- 1:53:01Do they work harder? Do they work less because they
- 1:53:04know they're getting paid. That's a great.
- 1:53:07That's a great question, right? Because it's funny it's like
- 1:53:10it's a lot of times. Now, you know, I told two of our
- 1:53:12players today, I said, you know, you guys are Pros now you got to
- 1:53:15be in shape all the time. There's no excuse for not being
- 1:53:17in shape like you're getting paid.
- 1:53:18Like you're you're basically like you know if you went to
- 1:53:21trap the Lakers tomorrow you come in and unbelievable shape,
- 1:53:24you come in mentally ready to go?
- 1:53:26You'll be rested you all, I kind of stuff.
- 1:53:27I said it's the same thing in college.
- 1:53:29Now you gotta you gotta get yourself in great position to,
- 1:53:31to have, you want to make money, you gotta have a great year and
- 1:53:35I do think there's a motivation now to have a great year, can
- 1:53:38help you earn more money and I think it's a great thing Joba.
- 1:53:42So you see it on both sides like it could be good and bad.
- 1:53:46It doesn't matter. Could be bad too.
- 1:53:47Could absolutely be bad guys. Get paid almost so they get
- 1:53:50lazy. They get I see all the time
- 1:53:51guys. Start spending money on stupid
- 1:53:53things and they buy they buy things, they shouldn't buy.
- 1:53:55I mean what's I tell what was what's bad?
- 1:53:58Is it the ncaa's not done anything as far as an
- 1:54:00educational programs to help kids who are making this kind of
- 1:54:03money as far as like Financial education.
- 1:54:06We do it ourselves and we'll have people come in and talk to
- 1:54:08our guys and speak about that. There's guys who had no money,
- 1:54:11who are all the sudden making 500,000 dollars, who have no
- 1:54:14idea how to open a checking account, how to invest it, how
- 1:54:17to pay taxes. There's a lot of parts that NCAA
- 1:54:20has done nothing. As far as like educating those
- 1:54:23student athletes. I think there's a part of it,
- 1:54:25like once you get paid on, I've made it.
- 1:54:27You know, we had guys, you know, making not that much money
- 1:54:31thinking have. I made it?
- 1:54:32I made it. I'm gonna go buy a gold chain
- 1:54:33and go buy a. Go buy a car and life is good.
- 1:54:37Well, is that that money goes? But we all know it goes by
- 1:54:40pretty fast. What and it's one, but I do
- 1:54:42agree though, that they should get paid.
- 1:54:44I think student athletes deserve to get paid.
- 1:54:46There's so much money being made by all these teams always
- 1:54:49programs and for a long time, coaches made lots of money.
- 1:54:52He still got your body, you're building new buildings, You're
- 1:54:55Building. You're putting up new things,
- 1:54:56you're hire new people, so they definitely deserve to get paid.
- 1:54:59I just think we need to put things in place to help them
- 1:55:02understand. Like this might be the most
- 1:55:04money they'll ever make. You know, you don't make a ton
- 1:55:07of money overseas playing professional overseas, you don't
- 1:55:09make crazy money but right now they're guys in in our league,
- 1:55:12making half a million dollars, you know, or more that's a lot
- 1:55:17of money for kids. 20 years old has no idea what to do with it.
- 1:55:20You know we have guys in our team, I don't last you a
- 1:55:22transferred we're making crazy amounts of money and it's like I
- 1:55:25hope they don't don't and I talked about time to don't don't
- 1:55:28waste your money. Don't make sure you're smart.
- 1:55:29Make sure you investigation, just save it.
- 1:55:31But we need something in place to help them.
- 1:55:34We are talking to USF, basketball assistant, head
- 1:55:38coach, Toby Anderson. I don't want to keep you on too
- 1:55:41much longer, but this story has really burst my bubble.
- 1:55:45Okay. You are a recruiter, you're a
- 1:55:48head coach. And this guy is on the Bill
- 1:55:50Simmons show. And with this this idiot writer
- 1:55:54kosterman, I call him colostomy bag, okay?
- 1:55:57Because that's all he is and he comes out and he tries to
- 1:56:00compare probably the best american-born player.
- 1:56:04We've seen come out of college basketball and about, let's just
- 1:56:07say 12 years, okay? And Cooper Flagg.
- 1:56:10And he had the audacity to come out as we all know, he's a
- 1:56:14former writer, he's not all right?
- 1:56:16Or any more for anybody but himself he should be writing
- 1:56:20about something else, maybe something he does.
- 1:56:22And when he sitting on a toilet I don't want to listen to him,
- 1:56:25talk about Cooper Flagg, but he came out and tried to compare
- 1:56:28Cooper Flagg to debt lift strip. Now, as a recruiter as a guy
- 1:56:34that knows a little bit about college basketball and I'm sure
- 1:56:37you do and I know you do because we've had you on your show and
- 1:56:41you've coached division, one school is D2 schools and your
- 1:56:44great coach. Could you even think of just how
- 1:56:50stupid a dumb person could be comparing this kid to, to a guy?
- 1:56:57That was a good player, but nowhere close to the talent as
- 1:57:01Cooper Flagg, and please tell me what this guy is drinking
- 1:57:05because you might be drinking, something that has a lot of
- 1:57:07protein, but you shouldn't be drinking.
- 1:57:09If you know what I mean. Cooper flag is a generational
- 1:57:12Talent man. I saw him at the, at the, at the
- 1:57:16eybl, the Nike thing, like two years ago, I'm like, man,
- 1:57:19there's I mean, I thought you're gonna say I hadn't heard the
- 1:57:21conversation, I hadn't been following Bill Simmons, that
- 1:57:23much. I thought he was compared to
- 1:57:28Larry Bird. I'm like well, I be a, that's a
- 1:57:30comparison. I think Cooper flag will be a,
- 1:57:31you know, 10 time All-Star. First team will be a guy.
- 1:57:36He's got like he's got all the town, all that abilities.
- 1:57:39He got mentally. He's a tough dude when he went
- 1:57:43to Duke this year and he handled all that exposure, all that, all
- 1:57:45that hype. And he was fantastic.
- 1:57:47So I think he's a generational talent, I think he's fantastic,
- 1:57:49he's going to be great. Um man I wish the males would
- 1:57:53have kept Luca had been fun to see that.
- 1:57:56That whole thing, they would have never got him.
- 1:57:57They would never got him. I think the area was pretty much
- 1:58:00handing them over the first, probably, when I got there
- 1:58:03Arrow, tell him what you think the NBA is What do you mean?
- 1:58:08What do I think the NBA see lja LeBron James Association.
- 1:58:11It's the LeBron James Association, it's not the NBA,
- 1:58:15it's the lja. If you like I think he's a
- 1:58:19generational town. I think he's the second greatest
- 1:58:21basketball player all time of all time, even though he likes
- 1:58:24to say he's the greatest and so does his family.
- 1:58:26And he wants to tell everybody, he's retiring when he's not
- 1:58:29retiring. Why would you retire when you're
- 1:58:30getting 52 and a half million dollars?
- 1:58:32You'd have to be stupid. LeBron, James thinks we're
- 1:58:35stupid. So we're gonna believe it.
- 1:58:36The fact is, is the NBA wanted Luca to go over there to the
- 1:58:41Lakers because the Lakers need another player to lean on.
- 1:58:45After LeBron James goes away and we all know, that's what the NBA
- 1:58:49is doing and because of that the lja handed over Cooper Flagg to
- 1:58:56the Mavericks and said, here you go.
- 1:58:58We're sorry. We're sorry that you gave up
- 1:59:01Lucas, so you know where we're going to do, we're gonna give
- 1:59:03you even a better player, you got damn idiots.
- 1:59:06That's what the NBA is the lja, the LeBron James Association, or
- 1:59:11you could call them. The G A know, the GI goddamn
- 1:59:19God, GDI Association, God damn, idiot, Association, that's even
- 1:59:25better. But it's the lja, I mean, we all
- 1:59:28know that James Johnson, how many years, what's he played, 22
- 1:59:31years and it's pretty impressive.
- 1:59:32What he's doing. He's a believable, it's not
- 1:59:34human, he's not human, he's 20 years, two years playing and
- 1:59:39then he spent 12 years of the GM.
- 1:59:40And now five years look as the commissioner of the league.
- 1:59:43It's pretty simple to open, you know, it's a little know.
- 1:59:46I will agree with that. It's a little bit, a little bit
- 1:59:48too much. So just say it the lja, LeBron
- 1:59:51James. So yeah, that's it.
- 1:59:53I'm going back to original. Cooper, flag is a study, he's
- 1:59:57gonna be a great player. He's gonna be here that fish,
- 2:00:00hear that fish sink that in sink that in, for that Mr. Koster me
- 2:00:04bag that idiot on that stupid show.
- 2:00:07That, that's a bad. Oh my God.
- 2:00:09What a horrible comparison? That's a terrible comparison,
- 2:00:12right? I thought you said Larry Bird,
- 2:00:15I'm like it's two different guys but like, you know, like
- 2:00:18whatever that's the white. And I said this, I've watched
- 2:00:21Cooper Flagg develop as a high school player, we've been trying
- 2:00:24to get him on the show for a long time.
- 2:00:26I've been following him since eighth grade he reminds me of
- 2:00:29the white Kevin Durant. That's who he reminds me of his
- 2:00:33game. What he did, what Kevin Durant
- 2:00:35played when he was over there in Texas with the Longhorns and he
- 2:00:38did, he was a good shooter, he's a little bit better.
- 2:00:40Well he's he's definitely better as a shooter than Cooper Flagg.
- 2:00:44But his game is all around game and remember, Kevin Durant
- 2:00:47developed his shot, even better in the NBA, he wasn't the
- 2:00:51shooter, he is now, but when he came to the NBA, I think he's
- 2:00:55still the one Kevin Durant. He had to one assistant turnover
- 2:00:59of the Year. Cooper Flagg, like can scorpion
- 2:01:01also pass the volume please? He could rebound, he can defend
- 2:01:04me. He's a, he's a beast, man.
- 2:01:06He's fantastic. Don't have to be great.
- 2:01:07He'll be great. Oh, he'll be fun to watch the
- 2:01:11NBA too. He's got more space and things
- 2:01:12like that. He'll be, he'll be outstanding.
- 2:01:14All right. Tell us so Tobin I before you
- 2:01:17get. Yes, good as a coach.
- 2:01:21One, you get a talent like that and you get somebody in that
- 2:01:25realm. You masturbate.
- 2:01:27That's what I would do. How do you Outside, I'm giving
- 2:01:34him to stay grounded. And the game has changed like we
- 2:01:38talked. Yeah.
- 2:01:40How do you get them to stay to understand?
- 2:01:43Like, this is what we want to get to, we don't want to just
- 2:01:48get to the tournament we want to.
- 2:01:50Do and how do you do that as a coach?
- 2:01:52Because You know, I've been fortunate enough to do a lot of
- 2:01:55cool things. but, I never got to the Pinnacle in college.
- 2:02:01And I got close, but I did. And as a coach, and I've never
- 2:02:07coached it at that level. Where do you like?
- 2:02:12Where is the balance between? Because they are still student
- 2:02:15athletes. Yeah.
- 2:02:16But now they're business people. Yeah, like so, where do you find
- 2:02:20that balance? Well, I think, first of all, if
- 2:02:24they're they got to be good, people like you can tell Cooper
- 2:02:26flies, got good parents, he's been raised.
- 2:02:27Well he's got, he's got good people around him, he's had a
- 2:02:29good coaches. Like, you know, I just even even
- 2:02:31recruit kids you can tell who's gonna stay grounded.
- 2:02:34Who's gonna not go out and spend their money and go and do crazy
- 2:02:36things. And, and who's gonna be like,
- 2:02:38who's gonna get better and work and like it in the day, right?
- 2:02:42The better, the team does a better, you do, right?
- 2:02:44If you know, if you get yourself, get your team to a
- 2:02:46final four, it's gonna help the team.
- 2:02:47It's going to help you too. So more exposure, more more eyes
- 2:02:51on, you all that kind of stuff. So, I think we try to sell.
- 2:02:55Hey, what's good for? The team is also good for you.
- 2:02:57It's good for you is also good for the team.
- 2:02:59Hope they have High character, hope, they'll raise well, by
- 2:03:01great parents and understand the big picture, you know, but I
- 2:03:05think, where is where do you come in?
- 2:03:07Because they're with you more than they're with all the time.
- 2:03:11Yep. My dad was a high school coach.
- 2:03:13My dad said, all know your kid better than you will because I
- 2:03:17see him all the time. I see him every day and winning
- 2:03:19and losing practice the whole thing.
- 2:03:21So, like I'm there, I'm there to kind of kick him in the ass
- 2:03:24where they need it, right? Also to be encouraging to be
- 2:03:27positive. I think the part about like, you
- 2:03:30know, being a positive voice in their ear, all the time is
- 2:03:32great, especially with social media and how you get they get
- 2:03:34knocked down all the time by all these people.
- 2:03:37So I think they just being around and you know we will we
- 2:03:39watch a lot of film. We watch a lot of NBA stuff, we
- 2:03:42show them. We show them Clips like just
- 2:03:43being a person who's there for him, anytime they need us, you
- 2:03:47know. Um, I think a lot of times, you
- 2:03:51know, to keep him grounded when things are going well is is
- 2:03:55harder than when they're not doing well and motivating them
- 2:03:59to do better. You know.
- 2:04:00I'm saying, it's like they have You're a parent.
- 2:04:03I'm assuming right? Yes, I remember sons of actually
- 2:04:06a sophomore Alabama, my daughter, my son, my son's, a
- 2:04:09sophomore at Hudson playing. So this is the parents instincts
- 2:04:13kick in sometimes. I'm a better coach now that I've
- 2:04:17had my kids go through high school sports you know?
- 2:04:19Trust me. That was awful.
- 2:04:22Yeah. Yeah, well yeah, you gotta use
- 2:04:26the goods. You said it's good for you and
- 2:04:28good for that. It's good for the goose.
- 2:04:30It's good for the gifts Alexander.
- 2:04:32I like that. I like that.
- 2:04:33Say that's a good song you. So you you as a father like
- 2:04:37being coached and I've never coached in your level, I've
- 2:04:41coached travel baseball whatever But do you do you think that
- 2:04:46helps to like when you have that understanding?
- 2:04:50Because it's like, hey, I know you're going through some shit.
- 2:04:53Yeah. And that's okay.
- 2:04:55Yep. And be like, hey, we're here for
- 2:04:59you and all you gotta do is just talk to me because if I don't
- 2:05:04know I can't. Yeah. same back to this job with
- 2:05:09my son, my coach jimin a travel ball oo, which was the hardest
- 2:05:13things ever had to do and who's like an 8th grade and I was
- 2:05:15trying to coach his team and, you know, he would listen to me
- 2:05:17the more After a game, I was like trying to critique him or
- 2:05:22try to coach him. That didn't work so much.
- 2:05:24What you just said is a great Point.
- 2:05:25Let them talk, let them know how you feel, how things going, what
- 2:05:29are you thinking? What are your goals?
- 2:05:30Like, and just being kind of there for them as a resource as
- 2:05:34opposed to tell them all the time.
- 2:05:35What to do and how to do it, right?
- 2:05:37Because sometimes it's too much, it's just too.
- 2:05:40It's just too much, you know, the too much, too much coaching,
- 2:05:43too much overloading them or whatever.
- 2:05:45So you got to pick and choose the right spots and let's just
- 2:05:47I'm not perfect at it. I was not a perfect parent.
- 2:05:50I drove my son, crazy. Sometimes the best thing my son
- 2:05:52did. He started running cross
- 2:05:54country? I go to the meet.
- 2:05:55She was like run as fast, you can turn left.
- 2:05:57That's all you got to do man. Get back here as you can like
- 2:05:59that's that's an easy sport to be and we know nothing about it.
- 2:06:03So thank you. I will say this to open and you
- 2:06:07said, what job asked you say, what do you do when you get a
- 2:06:10town like that? And I made a joke and I said, I
- 2:06:12get off, I masturbate because if I got a player that good, I'm
- 2:06:17having a, I'm having a ball. I'm Enjoying myself and just so
- 2:06:20happy that I landed somebody that great.
- 2:06:23This guy was the best player in the world coming out, like, the
- 2:06:28south Florida. I'd be, I'd be doing pretty well
- 2:06:30here. I'd be like, I'm gonna have
- 2:06:32three pools instead of one Finally, love the other swap.
- 2:06:37He love you. Just have me recruit him.
- 2:06:41I don't know. You gotta pick and choose your
- 2:06:44moments. Are they girl?
- 2:06:45I know I know Arrow will love you coaching at Duke right now.
- 2:06:50I'd be a great coach. You can't eat me out there.
- 2:06:53Having him, pumping these kids up.
- 2:06:55I'm one of those crazy guys. I'm not Danny Hurley crazy.
- 2:06:58I'm not gonna attack somebody or threaten people on a basketball
- 2:07:02court, but I'm gonna tell the guys.
- 2:07:03Listen, we're gonna go out there.
- 2:07:04I'm pretend, I'm out there as the six man pretend.
- 2:07:08I'm just, I I'm like an angel on your shoulders.
- 2:07:10Pretend, I'm just like riding your shoulders all the way to
- 2:07:14the hole. Okay, remember that hole?
- 2:07:16Make sure that hole opens and jam it.
- 2:07:19That's what I said. I'm not in New York, you got a
- 2:07:24Jets had on. That's gonna be good this year.
- 2:07:28Oh, first now told me what happened to open.
- 2:07:36Now, you've done it. Now, you've done it.
- 2:07:38Now you've lost yourself whatever you're doing over
- 2:07:42there, whatever. You're drinking keep drinking
- 2:07:43it, just don't get too drunk. Nobody said, the Jets are
- 2:07:47winning anything this year, all we know, Is we got to see if
- 2:07:51they got the right guy in place? I think they do.
- 2:07:53I think Aaron Glenn's a good coach.
- 2:07:55I think he's a jet. The Jets have never hired
- 2:07:59somebody that was a part of the organization.
- 2:08:01So we understand what it takes to bring in somebody that can
- 2:08:05say, I know what it is to lose. I know what it takes to figure
- 2:08:09out how to win and be a great player.
- 2:08:11Aaron, Glenn was a good player and he knows how to win as we've
- 2:08:15seen with Detroit and we all know what Bill Parcells said.
- 2:08:18He's one of the greatest, he knows that Aaron Glenn is going
- 2:08:21to be special so I understand what you're saying.
- 2:08:23The fact that you brought up the New York Jets in this
- 2:08:26conversation, makes me sick. Okay.
- 2:08:29It makes me sick as a Jet fan and as a, you know, yeah, we
- 2:08:35usually have to deal with jets conversation, never, never 90,
- 2:08:39never, we have spoke in all we bring up.
- 2:08:41When it comes to, it is making jokes about Aaron Rodgers.
- 2:08:44We do not, we have not spoken about the Jets, not all about
- 2:08:48it. We have nothing to talk about.
- 2:08:50With the chance. Why are you bringing them up?
- 2:08:52Because you're just trying to find a way to stir things up.
- 2:08:55And if you want to stir me up, it's very simple.
- 2:08:58I'm not gonna sit here and back down from nobody.
- 2:09:02And as far as the New York Jets are concerned with ownership, by
- 2:09:05the way, Woody Johnson's trying to buy a soccer team for 200
- 2:09:09million Woody, stay away from the soccer team and worry about
- 2:09:12your goddamn football. Team, stay the hell away from
- 2:09:16anything you touch because you're going to make me hurl.
- 2:09:19All right, I don't want to hear about Woody Johnson in the
- 2:09:22tablets. I don't want to hear about James
- 2:09:24Dolan. I don't want to hear about Chris
- 2:09:26jury because he sucks for all you range of fans.
- 2:09:28I just sit here and laugh every single time we talk about it.
- 2:09:32You know, why? Because we live in this
- 2:09:34disgrace, we live in a disgraceful state where
- 2:09:38disgraceful just graceful sports.
- 2:09:41That's all I'm gonna say, let's cut it out that and we love you.
- 2:09:45We love you my friend Tobin, we appreciate you.
- 2:09:50Thank you for sharing that. Very nice to meet you, man.
- 2:09:52Alright, miss you guys. All right, we'll talk soon.
- 2:09:55Invite us to a basketball game so we can come to Camp.
- 2:09:58You come see me. All right, let's do it.
- 2:10:00Let's serve you. You got my number coming to
- 2:10:02Tampa. Come.
- 2:10:03See, I love to have you. Let's do it in the house.
- 2:10:04Let's do it. That sounds like a fun time.
- 2:10:06Well hang out with open just you know, well and Jabba you know,
- 2:10:10sign a couple autographs. I kind of Run Tampa so we can we
- 2:10:16can we can get it done. You come down, you know just
- 2:10:19hope it. Just keep them away from your
- 2:10:21pool. I don't know what he does.
- 2:10:22Anyways, take care phone number. Great personality, great head
- 2:10:31coach. Iona was stupid.
- 2:10:33I am stupid. They're stupid organization,
- 2:10:35stupid School. Keep the guy let him grow.
- 2:10:38This isn't the Knicks. He, I think Tobin it takes a
- 2:10:42while to recruit the right guys. To put them around in college
- 2:10:46basketball and put it in a good situation where they're going to
- 2:10:48succeed, Tobin didn't get enough time to do that.
- 2:10:52And unfortunately heating it fell short for him.
- 2:10:56But I think Tobin's a great coach.
- 2:10:58He's a great personality and anybody that's never heard him,
- 2:11:00or didn't get a chance to hear the interview.
- 2:11:03Well, then, shame on, you watch the replay and buckle off.
- 2:11:06And so, I always said as Aaron Rodgers, married his hands
- 2:11:09tonight as we've learned and we don't know what job it does in
- 2:11:13his pool. Okay, whatever Paul.
- 2:11:15He has, he lets keep him away from Jeff because that I mean I
- 2:11:19don't I do pee in the pool. I'm not gonna lie, I think I
- 2:11:23like that. That's it.
- 2:11:24That I Checked the ph and make sure it's fine and this is on
- 2:11:31the page. That's It figures, you do
- 2:11:36something like that. Oh man.
- 2:11:38I I'm not gonna say I never did it but I don't do that where I'm
- 2:11:42going out of my way and saying, hey, you know, what is anybody
- 2:11:44watching? I'm gonna just piss in the pool.
- 2:11:46I mean, that's not something I would do, and it's not sanitary.
- 2:11:50I know. Tell you, I'll tell you somebody
- 2:11:51that likes to be all over things.
- 2:11:53Tommy Scoops, over here, Mr. Pooper himself.
- 2:11:56He doesn't know how to, you know, he doesn't know how to
- 2:11:59shoot the rim or, you know, he tries to sink in and dunk it but
- 2:12:03it just doesn't dunk right. It hits the, it hits the rim and
- 2:12:06rubs if you know what I mean? Speed, you know how to rub,
- 2:12:09right? Why you rub yours?
- 2:12:11Like a Genie in a Bottle, right? He'd ever done that before?
- 2:12:14If you've never seen Aguilera oh I love that song.
- 2:12:18I love that song. I mean she she's definitely my
- 2:12:21genie in a bottle. If I got her in a bum and I'll
- 2:12:23rub her off. You know, I'll rub it off before
- 2:12:26I rub her off but anyways let's go to a call. to the Stop.
- 2:12:33You control a strike on his pitch.
- 2:12:35He's not gonna be my John's like jello.
- 2:12:37Right. Just get it over the plate.
- 2:12:39I want to swing. Last time I did that.
- 2:12:40The guy that hasn't landed yet or a call to the pan But I like
- 2:12:46that. All right guys, a call to the
- 2:12:49pain. This is our wishes.
- 2:12:53Where again, Eat Your Heart Out Arrow.
- 2:12:55I know you wish that was true but the drop is a lot.
- 2:12:59My rear end is burning. That one might be true because
- 2:13:03girls have some food that is robot sketch crowbar.
- 2:13:07Call to the pain is, when we go and get some real stories from
- 2:13:15the history of our professional athletes that are on our new
- 2:13:20job, Goody should be joining us later.
- 2:13:25Sullivan, her back from a boat. We're gonna talk about Give him
- 2:13:29a chance over here. He's winning by the way.
- 2:13:31He is three and I was a head coach.
- 2:13:33I mean that's a really good coach.
- 2:13:34The game, was they win the game real quick?
- 2:13:36And it'd be over. He'd be on the show already do?
- 2:13:39I mean if you was Dodger, all right, let's get serious.
- 2:13:45A call to the pain. I've always wondered about this
- 2:13:48because you always hear baseball, players have some of
- 2:13:51the most unique superstitions when compared to really all
- 2:13:55sports. A lot of athletes are
- 2:13:56superstitious. You know, may wear like, for
- 2:13:58football. I know.
- 2:13:59Like, I used to wear like the same shirt under my pads.
- 2:14:02You know, when I would play every game, like I wanted it to
- 2:14:04be that shirt, so, I made sure I had it ready for every game.
- 2:14:07That's just a small one that I just like had a habit of, that's
- 2:14:10not even really a superstition. I know that we're gonna hear
- 2:14:15some interesting ones tonight. Jabba, tell me about some of
- 2:14:17yours if you have any but definitely want to hear about
- 2:14:20some of the weirdest things you've ever seen experienced,
- 2:14:22man. It was it was for me.
- 2:14:25I put everything on right side first.
- 2:14:30So, what I always do and I still do it to this day.
- 2:14:34I would, when I started, I always ate the same thing.
- 2:14:37I went through the same restaurant.
- 2:14:41I remember like when I first got to the big league, everybody
- 2:14:43just told me about white dog, like he ate Fenway Franks like
- 2:14:48he literally got them to him. And it could be.
- 2:14:54No matter what was going on. he always ate them and then you
- 2:14:59literally could be mid-conversation And he would
- 2:15:05leave you with. Like, I gotta hit.
- 2:15:06Because he hit it the same time every day.
- 2:15:10And it didn't he ate the same ass he did everything.
- 2:15:13Everything the same everything. So no he was eating ass.
- 2:15:17I mean you Know. Yeah, I mean he is a Hall of
- 2:15:24Famer so and he's from Omaha Nebraska.
- 2:15:26So why they eat ass over there? I mean, I'm not I'm not gonna
- 2:15:34say I have it. like I said, Dogs really do all the Fried Chicken
- 2:15:43story stuff that you hear in the case races would be here.
- 2:15:47Yes, don't ever don't ever try to drink with that, man.
- 2:15:52You that, that will not happen. Yeah, I mean, unless, you know,
- 2:15:56someone from like I had a friend in college in the fraternity who
- 2:16:00like could do. Like, remember, what was the
- 2:16:02show, The Man Show, where they had.
- 2:16:05The guy did the Ziggy's and then he would one gulp the Pint.
- 2:16:08I had a friend that could do that and it was impressive.
- 2:16:12But every once in a while, you know, you put to the test and
- 2:16:16that that guy always killed all of us.
- 2:16:18Yeah. And if like but for mine is like
- 2:16:21insane, guys, like CC was crazy too because I knew him and then
- 2:16:29got to play with him and he was just the most laid-back dude
- 2:16:32when he would start and you're like there's some that aren't
- 2:16:36like when I played with Roger. It was like you didn't talk to
- 2:16:41him. AJ Burnett.
- 2:16:44When he came over in 09 was CC, he had this like Buddha head,
- 2:16:48right? And he would turn it.
- 2:16:52To what his demeanor was that day.
- 2:16:55Okay, so it's like you could see like okay, he's happy, okay,
- 2:16:59we've talked to, he's pissed off, you don't talk to him.
- 2:17:05And I'm like, all right, all right, like and I was like
- 2:17:09you're learning these things. I'm a 23 year old kid at the
- 2:17:12time. and I'm like, all right, well learning these things and I
- 2:17:16was like man, there is a lot more than you thought because
- 2:17:20we're all superstitious in our own ways.
- 2:17:24But when it comes to like sports and and different things, people
- 2:17:28do things different ways and it was like learning those things
- 2:17:31within completely, like boggled my mind.
- 2:17:36Because I'm like, Oh all right they're like hey you can't talk
- 2:17:40to him if it's turned this way and I'm like oh all right well
- 2:17:44here we go. I mean that cheerful pie
- 2:17:46everyone in the face guy was had like a burnout in the in the
- 2:17:51locker room where if he turned to the left you there was
- 2:17:54foreheads on it and it was just kind of the way you did it.
- 2:17:57I love agent. AJ was awesome he's been great
- 2:18:01to my family then great to me but yeah he was just he was a
- 2:18:06different he was a different cast and it was just like he had
- 2:18:10that trigger. Of what he was my dad wants your
- 2:18:15pussycat. Did he throw a no-hitter with
- 2:18:21nine walks or something like that when he first got something
- 2:18:24crazy like that? Like what it was with the
- 2:18:27Marlins? Yeah ridiculous.
- 2:18:29It was like a million, he still has one of my favorite favorite.
- 2:18:34Ever Clips in baseball, Mike Redmond the catcher, who was a
- 2:18:39manager in the big league? Any knocks out the window?
- 2:18:45when the truck is driving by and Mike Redmond, I like I look at
- 2:18:51small things, right? Mike Redmond frames the pitch.
- 2:18:56And it's literally in the window.
- 2:18:59And it's one of my favorite Clips ever in baseball.
- 2:19:03You mean this one? Right here.
- 2:19:05Oh yeah. A warm up Pitch coming through.
- 2:19:08Watch Redmond. He brings it.
- 2:19:16Told you it's pretty dumb, that's one of the best ones ever
- 2:19:21and then they're cleaning up the glass, it's one of the best ones
- 2:19:24ever. I'm putting you on a leash now.
- 2:19:37It was perfect, the bet but literally is like, AJ knew what
- 2:19:41he was doing, but the best is Redmond because they probably
- 2:19:44already talked about it. I've never had that
- 2:19:46conversation. but literally, like Redmond just watching him,
- 2:19:51just frame the pitch like Because he was happy.
- 2:19:55I always wondered what AJ had in his mouth all the time because
- 2:19:58it looked like he always did. Oh my god.
- 2:20:01Oh, I will say one thing age of brunettes One of my favorite
- 2:20:08teammates. He literally went to a
- 2:20:11convenience store. And you know, like behind the
- 2:20:15convenience store. You see like the rack of like
- 2:20:19old school so this that have been 2009.
- 2:20:22You can't do that now they would never live that leave the dip
- 2:20:25open for you to take it to be gone within hours so they would
- 2:20:29never allowed. He bought the rat.
- 2:20:34In, but all of the can and he put it in his locker.
- 2:20:39And he's like if you need a dip, get a dip.
- 2:20:42Any did it? And so I never did.
- 2:20:45He was like, you're from the Nebraska.
- 2:20:48It's wonderful when you have money, right guys, it's
- 2:20:50wonderful. It's one, he lives, wonderful.
- 2:20:53I'm just buy the whole dip here, I'll just buy all of them and
- 2:20:56all, and I want that one in. That one all of it.
- 2:21:01He lived in Bowie. Maryland, Bowie, Maryland,
- 2:21:05wonderful, yeah. Still there sounds like Swamp
- 2:21:08Thing, but we met him and remember that movie was
- 2:21:12something he told me, he goes probably, you'll be fine.
- 2:21:18Because I was never there. Oh somebody they just scored.
- 2:21:23High game figures. Oh, wow, came over hockey game
- 2:21:29yet. High game, came back all the way
- 2:21:31back. That's pretty great.
- 2:21:32And so he literally told me goes, you'll be fine.
- 2:21:36And I never, I never dipped. I took a dip in the first
- 2:21:40inning. And then after I finished that
- 2:21:43was, it didn't do anything. The only thing I'm dipping.
- 2:21:46The only thing I'm dipping is the crap that goes in the ball
- 2:21:48and splashes me in the ass. That's the only thing I'm
- 2:21:51dipping. Well let's we kind of got off
- 2:21:53Target here a little bit. Let's just finish this up Arrow.
- 2:21:57How about you any superstitions from Had a lot of superstitions
- 2:22:02one. I didn't speak to anybody before
- 2:22:04the game and I never said anything throughout the game.
- 2:22:07I actually set up shop there, there's a dressing room or the,
- 2:22:12you know, there's a locker room, I was in the other room.
- 2:22:14Now, if you heard the story about Billy Smith before every
- 2:22:18playoff game, he would hide himself and lock himself in a
- 2:22:20dark room and if anybody walked through it, he beat the hell out
- 2:22:23of him. I didn't do anything crazy like
- 2:22:25that. Before the game, especially a
- 2:22:28playoff game or for in a tournament, I would go into the
- 2:22:30other room. I would get dressed.
- 2:22:31I wouldn't say anything. The only time I would say
- 2:22:34anything, is when the coaches yelling at me about to get on
- 2:22:38the ice before my first shift, and tells me if you don't play
- 2:22:42hard, you're sitting at the end of this bench, that was the only
- 2:22:45and I tell the coach to go fuc himself.
- 2:22:47That's what I tell him. When I got on the bed that's it
- 2:22:50that would be the words that came out of my mouth before I
- 2:22:53got on the ice. That was it and he laughed at it
- 2:22:56because he was coming out of my mouth but before I would even
- 2:22:58say it. So so he's waiting for you on.
- 2:23:01Line, one or what? That's I wasn't online one.
- 2:23:03I I'm sorry. What are you talking about?
- 2:23:05Are you talking about playing hockey?
- 2:23:06Yeah, I was online. I was either, I was either
- 2:23:09playing Wing. I played defense, I played every
- 2:23:12position and hockey. I even played goalie in certain
- 2:23:15aspects of those, you know, certain games.
- 2:23:16If they needed a goalie, I was the second string goaltender
- 2:23:19that would go. I was better than the starter
- 2:23:21but I was better more suited to play.
- 2:23:24You know, as a starting right wing left.
- 2:23:26Winger even said, her body was mainly a wingman.
- 2:23:29I was a right winger and I also was a sinner.
- 2:23:31So I, I played multiple positions but I was on the first
- 2:23:35line all the time. So but sometimes if the third
- 2:23:38line, like, let's say, we needed like a rough line, we used to
- 2:23:42call it the rough line. If if one of the guys was not
- 2:23:45you know, healthy or something like that, they put me on that
- 2:23:47rough line because I like did you play rough life and and
- 2:23:53power play. I know it's crazy.
- 2:23:55And it's funny that you said that I I don't know during the
- 2:23:59game, I would do like minute and 40 seconds shifts.
- 2:24:02And Average hockey player can only do between 45 and a minute
- 2:24:06and 10. I was doing a minion 45 minute
- 2:24:09and 50, second shifts, and I would play like 30 minutes in
- 2:24:14the game. So I was, I had a tremendous
- 2:24:17amount of stamina. Now, if I got on the ice, I
- 2:24:19probably I'll be lucky to do 25 seconds. 30 seconds.
- 2:24:22It's a, it beats the hell out of your body.
- 2:24:24People don't realize. 30 seconds is like an eternity when you run
- 2:24:28when you skating up and down the ice so that was a Superstition,
- 2:24:32another Superstition I had and I never wore my call.
- 2:24:36Never will my cup in the playoffs.
- 2:24:38Never did it. Didn't matter what position I
- 2:24:41played. I never because I liked the, the
- 2:24:43are going to my, you know, my trousers.
- 2:24:47So when I don't know, if anybody knows anything about hockey so
- 2:24:51the way it's not trousers, they're Breezers.
- 2:24:53Yeah. What ever Charles that way?
- 2:24:56Anyways, so I if you know anything about hockey, when you
- 2:25:00put your pants on, you tape them to your leg and then you put the
- 2:25:03socks on. Okay, well, I didn't do that
- 2:25:06guys, I did something different. I worked two sets of socks, I
- 2:25:10put the socks on under the pads and I tape them.
- 2:25:13And then I put another pair of socks over and take them over on
- 2:25:17top of it. You ask me why?
- 2:25:19I did that because I never liked to wear the Hawks that, you
- 2:25:23know, obviously there were like, what are they called that?
- 2:25:25Like, They were straps that onto your freezers.
- 2:25:31Yeah, so I didn't like to do that.
- 2:25:33So if I did that, there were too much are going to my trousers
- 2:25:37where I wasn't wearing a cup, and it would, it would like, I
- 2:25:41like to breathe in there. So, what I did was, during the
- 2:25:44playoff games, I wouldn't wear the cup, and I'll tell you this.
- 2:25:47There were some games that I wish I did, because People,
- 2:25:52especially the coach knew during the game that I wasn't wearing
- 2:25:56it. And we come over there with one
- 2:25:58of the other guys. Sticks, and hit me over there.
- 2:26:00He go over when I'm not doing something right.
- 2:26:02Or I wasn't you know skating stronger or whatever.
- 2:26:06The hell during a power player, a penalty kill.
- 2:26:08He would take the stick in jab me over there where I was
- 2:26:11wearing a cop and I would be holding my nuts at the end of
- 2:26:14the bench. So this is True Story by the way
- 2:26:16and he knew that I was never wearing a company told me.
- 2:26:19See, this is why I tell you to wear you freaking cop Mister
- 2:26:22marks and he would just tell me. I was like, I'm not missed a
- 2:26:25marks. My father's up there.
- 2:26:26You could tell him, I'm Errol and he said, I don't give a fuk
- 2:26:29get out there, play a fucking game, that's what he used to
- 2:26:31tell me all the time. He said, if you don't play a
- 2:26:34game, you could be sit on the bench and you could be riding
- 2:26:36the hot the what they call the high heels.
- 2:26:38So, whatever the holy call that it's right, the pine yeah, no he
- 2:26:42said, hi something with a horse, a honey horse or whatever the
- 2:26:45hell he said, but are you write in your high horse?
- 2:26:48No, hiney horse. You'd be riding the Hindi horse.
- 2:26:51So anyways, yeah, I'm not gonna mention, I'm not gonna mention
- 2:26:55the coach that said that, because if he's listening to the
- 2:26:57show, he's he had a filthy mouth.
- 2:27:00Yeah. Do you know it?
- 2:27:02You have probably the worst, dude.
- 2:27:04You have no idea what these guys say to you.
- 2:27:06Yeah, your parents, your father, my father used to love him
- 2:27:10because my father says, he's got a dirty or mouth than I do.
- 2:27:12And my father had a dirty freaking mouth.
- 2:27:14So and my father used to tell me, you could curse, all you
- 2:27:18want inside my house. You walk out, you disrespect a
- 2:27:22parent. I'm going to smack you in the
- 2:27:24face so I couldn't curse to anybody.
- 2:27:26But inside my house to my brothers, my brother, and my two
- 2:27:29sisters, and my parents, and we had like this connection of
- 2:27:32cursing and using the f word, you know about it.
- 2:27:35But, yeah. So I I, that's that's how it is
- 2:27:39in my coach. He had the dirtiest freaking
- 2:27:41mouth. The dirty is freaking mouth.
- 2:27:43I mean, you could, you could put soap in his mouth and it still
- 2:27:45wouldn't be clean. It was horrible.
- 2:27:47Anyways, that was probably the two things that I used to do.
- 2:27:51Here during the playoffs. And during tournaments, I
- 2:27:54wouldn't wear a cup and obviously, I wouldn't speak to
- 2:27:58anybody during the game, but the coach maybe one or two words
- 2:28:00when I told him to go fuc himself.
- 2:28:02So, and I always did it by the way, all the time.
- 2:28:05When he told me I don't fuck you coach and I get on the ice.
- 2:28:08Yeah, I don't curse on his show but I'm just telling you, I have
- 2:28:11to, I have to be fair here. I'm gonna tell you the truth, so
- 2:28:15that you gotta give them credit work credits.
- 2:28:17Yeah. That's what he said.
- 2:28:18Yeah, I gotta say. Yeah, so that's pretty much what
- 2:28:21I said to him. Coach, you know, I love you if
- 2:28:23you listen to the show if you're, you know, if you
- 2:28:26remember my dirty mouth too, so there you go.
- 2:28:29Well dirty mouths and well actually know what they call me
- 2:28:32and Mr. Steal Your Girl on that note, I gotta ask Mr. Speedy,
- 2:28:38Breaking News segment You got any superstitions Speedy?
- 2:28:43Yeah, play some himself every single night, grabs one knot,
- 2:28:46and then grabs the other not not habitual, you know, you know,
- 2:28:51kind of problematic things. I'm saying he doesn't like this
- 2:28:54ass. He uses not his left.
- 2:29:02It does he use a microphone glass?
- 2:29:15Well, it gets raunchy down here on a call.
- 2:29:20I need a magnifying glass. You're crazy, man.
- 2:29:31I love you. I why did I ever sign on?
- 2:29:49Anybody that hasn't listened to this show.
- 2:29:52Well now you have, so you must have been the most fascinating
- 2:29:56teammate anyone's ever had. I was definitely feels like Like
- 2:30:01just craziness, he never knew what you're gonna get.
- 2:30:04Like just Madness. Well, I am like The Nutcracker.
- 2:30:08It just the nut didn't crack. Hahaha.
- 2:30:14I can see you being like, remember and like the Mighty
- 2:30:17Ducks movie. The second one where he's going
- 2:30:20back to the AHL and then he gets injured for Life by the dentist.
- 2:30:25Wolf Stanton. You'd be a great dentist wolf
- 2:30:28Stanton era. I could see that, you know, just
- 2:30:30like checking people's ACLS and half.
- 2:30:32I wasn't that take this, I wasn't that bad.
- 2:30:35I just I didn't take crap from anybody when I was on the ice
- 2:30:39just because I was skinny and I was small, I could I can lay one
- 2:30:43out and at least somebody out. And I had to hit you.
- 2:30:46I knew how to get, what was your playing weight?
- 2:30:48I was like, 1251 30 when I was in high school.
- 2:30:51Really? Yes.
- 2:30:53Okay, you were like just very fast like very things have
- 2:30:57changed. Yeah, I'm big, I'm a big, a
- 2:31:00bigger guy. When I, when I graduated from
- 2:31:02high school, I I started hitting more weights, but I was, I was
- 2:31:06caught when I say I'm like 130 between 1:25 and 1:30 5.
- 2:31:11I was, I was in good shape. And and I was fast lightning,
- 2:31:16lightning fast and that's why. When I was coming full force,
- 2:31:19you wouldn't see me stop. I just fly right into you.
- 2:31:21That's how it stop hitting you, and make sure that you felt it
- 2:31:24every single time I hate you. And, and, and, and the funny
- 2:31:27thing is, is I would do it in a way like a figure skater.
- 2:31:31It would be like one of those like pirouettes, you know, if I
- 2:31:34can't explain it, you, I, I can actually show it if I even the
- 2:31:39other day. Well, not the other day, a
- 2:31:40couple couple of months ago, I went on the ice on a pond and I
- 2:31:42told you I fell back and hit my head, but even my friend, when
- 2:31:46after I got up and I shook it off I skated around and the guy
- 2:31:49said I was a bunch of guys standing around with us.
- 2:31:52He says, how long do you play hockey?
- 2:31:54I said I play. Well, hockey a long time.
- 2:31:56It's like it. He's like you skate like he did
- 2:31:58so and I have to put on I didn't pin on.
- 2:32:01I have a bit on the ice for like over a year so you never lose
- 2:32:04it. It's like riding a bike.
- 2:32:05Anything I do it's like Java throwing a baseball you don't
- 2:32:08lose something, you're so comfortable doing, you know?
- 2:32:12So it just becomes an A second nature to you, you know.
- 2:32:16So, you know, the technique, you know, how to, you know, put it
- 2:32:20on and and how you how you can shut it off.
- 2:32:22It's like anything. It's like telling Sidney Crosby.
- 2:32:25Hey, you know what? You're too old but you can't
- 2:32:28score anymore and Cindy. Crosby will go and play in like
- 2:32:31a, you know, a men's league right now and put up like nine,
- 2:32:34ten goals and and laugh at you when you said that, you know, so
- 2:32:37you don't lose something that you have.
- 2:32:39You just you lose the, you know, the athletic ability that you
- 2:32:43had as you get older, you just don't have the same ability
- 2:32:46because you got older. So, anyways, that's it.
- 2:32:49I don't need to sell anything anymore, right?
- 2:32:52Speedy. Why are you so quiet right now?
- 2:32:54Segment, to go to that. Why are you?
- 2:32:55Why are you quiet? Is there I?
- 2:32:58What do you mean? You don't care about this crap?
- 2:33:00It's part of the show. You know, you have to get
- 2:33:03involved more, you know, you gotta you gotta look at it and
- 2:33:06you got to use the magnifying glass.
- 2:33:07I need a magnetic buying glass. All right, ladies and gentlemen.
- 2:33:11So there you go. And now we have the NFL
- 2:33:15off-season. As we call this the whip around.
- 2:33:24Oh, we haven't done the whip around in a long, long time.
- 2:33:27And now, ladies and gentlemen, the NFL is here, chicka Chicka
- 2:33:33OTAs have begun, and ladies and gentlemen, Aaron Rodgers
- 2:33:38married, his hands. So congratulations to him.
- 2:33:41Brittany, has now his own ring. Hopefully it's his throwing arm
- 2:33:46because if it's his left arm and then we got a problem anyway.
- 2:33:50Well it took the Thunder out of my last story because it is the
- 2:33:54Aaron Rodgers but so we could bring it up one more time in a
- 2:33:58second but the first one is the picture I have up, guys, this is
- 2:34:03been going on for months with Trey Hendrickson.
- 2:34:05We understand the guy that, you know, going into his 30s, maybe
- 2:34:09they're going to play a little hard ball with him.
- 2:34:12But with their first round pick, that's supposed to either
- 2:34:15replace him or play opposite of them.
- 2:34:17They're also trying to put language into the contract
- 2:34:20there, all that would make it. You know, he'd have to
- 2:34:23accomplish a bunch of things or else he'd lose out on some
- 2:34:26money. That's supposed to be
- 2:34:27guaranteed. Usually these rookie contracts
- 2:34:30are not hard to negotiate because they're kind of
- 2:34:32structured yet the Bengals and their ownership just keep doing
- 2:34:37this. And let's face it.
- 2:34:38What was the problem last year? Defense.
- 2:34:41What do you think about this crazy story?
- 2:34:44Oh, it's pretty simple Hendrickson, should have been
- 2:34:46signed by The Bangles? It makes no sense.
- 2:34:48The organization is obviously telling the offensive side of
- 2:34:52the ball, we all know they have a Love Fest for Joe burrow, it
- 2:34:56may be, they do, and that's why they gave Higgins, and they gave
- 2:34:58jamarr chase. The contract and Hendrickson
- 2:35:01right now is, is looking to, maybe go to the Eagles to
- 2:35:03somebody of that magnitude. The problem right now, with the
- 2:35:07NFL, is they listened to much to the quarterbacks, the
- 2:35:10quarterbacks are the prima donna, and whatever the
- 2:35:12quarterbacks won. You would think that the coach
- 2:35:15has to say. And the GM has to say no, if our
- 2:35:18Star Quarterback wants this guy a far Stark quarterback wants
- 2:35:21that guy. That's what they do.
- 2:35:22They rip it and they stick it. And to me, it's an absolute
- 2:35:26shame as far as Devante Adams over here and I see he's really
- 2:35:30well. Hold on, let's get Speedy on
- 2:35:32this one and then we're gonna get into it.
- 2:35:33All right. Yeah.
- 2:35:35So hypocritical the, the impact that you want to have, you want
- 2:35:38to build up more like depth, Also, remember is not just Henry
- 2:35:42too Hubbard. You like accumulate multiple
- 2:35:46guys, as a result, they're just they're doing everything wrong
- 2:35:49in this process and fish. You and I both are not crazy
- 2:35:51about Stewart. It's a prospect anyway and now
- 2:35:53they're just making it worse. Stewart had 4.5 sacks, arrow in
- 2:35:57three seasons at Texas A&M. He is a project to say the least
- 2:36:04as a pass rusher is a good run stopper but he is not a pass
- 2:36:08rusher. Currently there are opposite DN
- 2:36:10like you said, Sam Hubbard retired, and they're playing
- 2:36:13Hardball with Trey Hendrickson, who was a first team all pro
- 2:36:16this year, with his second consecutive 17 and a half sacks.
- 2:36:20He makes no sense by the way. You would think no brainer,
- 2:36:22right? No brainer.
- 2:36:24You keep your first team All Pro?
- 2:36:25I mean the Giants didn't keep who was it?
- 2:36:29Say, Kwan Barkley. Oh yeah.
- 2:36:31Just give away guys like that. Great idea.
- 2:36:34Oh you just get out of my mouth. I just stupid organization
- 2:36:37right? Again thank you guys.
- 2:36:39So He wasn't the only First Team, all they gave up.
- 2:36:43They also lost the McKinney who became a first team, All Pro.
- 2:36:46So I don't know what they're doing, Speedy.
- 2:36:49I don't know how they get a winning record with this defense
- 2:36:53that they have. You need to have passed rushers,
- 2:36:54or your Corners have to cover for sale.
- 2:36:59And the corners ain't that good. So what this is not a team
- 2:37:03that's going to be able to win. I would take the over the first
- 2:37:06couple weeks of the seasons for the Bengals because that's gonna
- 2:37:08be high school scoring. Let's move on Davante Adams
- 2:37:12Errol. Rejuvenated.
- 2:37:17By ramz culture commenting earlier in the day, or maybe I
- 2:37:22was yesterday. Ram Jam saying that now that
- 2:37:24he's with the Ramsey, spending the off-season around McVeigh
- 2:37:27and Come Rain Jam. He's rejuvenated by the new
- 2:37:31atmosphere opposed to what he dealt with last year with the
- 2:37:35Raiders and the Jets Ram Jam doesn't surprise me with all the
- 2:37:41stories we hear about Woody Johnson, Rick Johnson, and the
- 2:37:45fam, you know, going through, I was waiting for you to bring
- 2:37:48this organization off guy. He know he won.
- 2:37:52Good, turn deserves it. My friends, spit it out.
- 2:37:56You tell me, is there any validity know the fact that he
- 2:38:00may be rejuvenated and back to being a first team?
- 2:38:03Second Team, all pro type player, oh he's rejuvenated.
- 2:38:06All right, he's rejuvenated to get the hell out of the NFL.
- 2:38:09I think Davante Adams is a great player, he had a good season
- 2:38:12with the the Jets. When he went to the Jets, he
- 2:38:14wasn't that bad, he put up good numbers.
- 2:38:16He is going with Matthew Stafford.
- 2:38:18He is going to an organization. That's one over the last five
- 2:38:21years. Good for them.
- 2:38:22The fact is right now. Matthew Stafford is one hit away
- 2:38:26from being an envelope that that's the facts, okay?
- 2:38:29Take that, and sell it whatever way you want to sell it.
- 2:38:32They don't really have a backup quarterback.
- 2:38:34They have a rookie back in him off right now.
- 2:38:36And you're looking at a team that if they lose Matthew
- 2:38:39Stafford at any point, this season, you're going to hear
- 2:38:42Devonte Adams saying. Okay, send me to Pittsburgh, I
- 2:38:45want to go play with Aaron Rodgers, it is an absolute joke.
- 2:38:48And by the way, I, I love you Devonte.
- 2:38:52I don't know you personally and I'm great.
- 2:38:54I'm grateful for you to even wear the Jets, green and white.
- 2:38:57Nobody gave a crap that you were here.
- 2:39:00The only reason why you wanted to come here is because you
- 2:39:03wanted to play with your butt, buddy, Aaron Rodgers, and now
- 2:39:05Aaron Rodgers married, his hand, and he's playing with himself
- 2:39:08over there and he named it. Brittany.
- 2:39:10If you want, if you want to use, if you want to use your hand,
- 2:39:15you want to rub them out. You're more than welcome.
- 2:39:17We'll name your hands Stephanie, okay?
- 2:39:19I don't give a crap what you're doing with the Rams, the Rams
- 2:39:24are winning the Super Bowl. The Rams, the Rams are gonna
- 2:39:26make the playoffs, but they'll probably lose against Detroit.
- 2:39:29Again, they're not a good organization.
- 2:39:31They're not very well run as much as everybody likes.
- 2:39:35Sean, McVay. I think they're just a team.
- 2:39:37That's another overrated want to be team.
- 2:39:41That is one play away from Matthew Stafford's career.
- 2:39:45Yeah. Dante Adams, obviously, getting
- 2:39:47out of Josh, McDaniels toxicity that he was the worst coach in
- 2:39:50the NFL when he was there and that reader's organization with
- 2:39:53just clearly not worked for anybody.
- 2:39:54And then going over to the Jets, maybe look like A lot more
- 2:39:58stable compared to the Raiders but still not ideal where you
- 2:40:00want to be coached by bambee Sola and Stephanie Johnson his
- 2:40:04hands. Stop it.
- 2:40:05Alright, grab on Sir. Pull the chicken.
- 2:40:07You think Devonte Adams gonna get back to be in an All-Pro
- 2:40:11type player? But that Stafford.
- 2:40:15Highly don't know because it's, it's, it depends on if he's
- 2:40:20bested into it or not, or if he just says he wants to.
- 2:40:24I don't know if he really is, and it'll be interesting to see
- 2:40:27if he actually. like, because when you when you come in to
- 2:40:33like a whole trip supposedly, Shut up.
- 2:40:45You gotta cut that one, Tommy. But if you don't like in bed in
- 2:40:54it and you're just like saying it to say it, I don't think you
- 2:40:57really can like you like it's it's like a pitcher catcher
- 2:41:01thing, right? And it's like quarterback
- 2:41:03received It's like you, you have to be.
- 2:41:07It's the reason why In 2009 and Jay Burnett through to Jose
- 2:41:13Molina because they had a different relationship.
- 2:41:16And they, that's just what it was. and so if he doesn't, if he
- 2:41:21doesn't Fully. Invest himself into all of it.
- 2:41:28It ain't gonna work. It's not gonna work and Is this
- 2:41:32is this is this gonna be his last Raw?
- 2:41:35I don't know. Oh, it is.
- 2:41:37I think I think it might be. It is You gotta go to honestly
- 2:41:40help you. I like him better paired with
- 2:41:43puka then I liked Cooper kupp. I think they had a very similar
- 2:41:48skill set cup and poop and I thought puka was you know just
- 2:41:50better at that point in his career than cup.
- 2:41:52And I think Adams is more of a traditional outside receiver and
- 2:41:55I I really think that that's a nice Dynamic.
- 2:41:58I trust me. They as an offense of Coach,
- 2:42:00maybe not on the other side of the ball without Aaron Donald
- 2:42:03yet. But look, they're good.
- 2:42:05They had good run young rookies verse this piece.
- 2:42:08What is he gonna buy him fish? That's the thing he says.
- 2:42:11So the culture is rejuvenating him.
- 2:42:13We'll see if it's true or not. Let's go through these next.
- 2:42:16Couple ones. A little more quickly because we
- 2:42:18do have let's party Lake coming up for everyone.
- 2:42:19Want to hear some good bets JK Dobbins and Jim Harbaugh on the
- 2:42:24news former formerly aligned last year was the Bell cow
- 2:42:27running back coming off injury Dobbins for the Chargers.
- 2:42:31He signs with the Broncos, which and Sean Payton getting into
- 2:42:35that act field, that kind of doesn't have, you know, number
- 2:42:38one, My son hated, it didn't like it.
- 2:42:41All right, we'll get to in a second and then the other side
- 2:42:43of it Harbaugh actually had a heart procedure.
- 2:42:46It was called a ablation. I had a hip replacement and I
- 2:42:51think he missed, like, I don't know a day or two of work and he
- 2:42:55said, he's, there's nothing that's going to keep them off of
- 2:42:57the football field, basically, but if you remember that, when
- 2:42:59he was with San Francisco, I actually think it's why he
- 2:43:01stepped away originally, it's because he had this heart issue.
- 2:43:05So definitely something I'm glad he's getting healed up, but I
- 2:43:09wanted to hear you guys take on Dobbins.
- 2:43:11It's actually, you know, going to the Broncos first, I like, I
- 2:43:15like JK Dobbins. Hopefully stays healthy when he
- 2:43:18is healthy, he's actually one of the more underrated running
- 2:43:21backs and he would fit over there in the culture with the
- 2:43:25Broncos, the Broncos they're desperate, they're in desperate
- 2:43:28need of a running back of this magnitude.
- 2:43:30They have not had one in a very long time.
- 2:43:33I you seen William's last year, he's an absolute debacle, he's
- 2:43:38no longer even with the Organization.
- 2:43:40They're still trying to figure out they're running game, but
- 2:43:42they have an explosive team, they have some good wide
- 2:43:46receivers Courtland Sutton is one of the more underrated wide
- 2:43:49receivers in a league. He had a JK Dobbins.
- 2:43:51That gives you a dull threat, a guy that can catch the ball in
- 2:43:54the backfield and open up the field for the Broncos offense.
- 2:43:57And by the way, they got a running quarterback that can
- 2:44:00move inside and out of the pocket.
- 2:44:01Now you have a guy that can actually help them block for
- 2:44:05them. I like the move and by the way
- 2:44:06they have a Young quarterback, that's 25 this year, 25 years,
- 2:44:11years, old of age this year, and has a chance to be and I believe
- 2:44:16a pro bowl player consistently for the next couple of years.
- 2:44:19I love this move for them as long as JK Dobbins stays
- 2:44:23healthy. He proved me wrong last year, I
- 2:44:24wasn't sure. Yeah, I wasn't crazy about his
- 2:44:26overall skill set anyway when he first came out of the draft.
- 2:44:29But again a nice rookie year with the Ravens since then, he
- 2:44:31wasn't great, but he proved a lot of people wrong including
- 2:44:34myself last year, so he's still on a good offensive line, a
- 2:44:37great running back type coach at Peyton there?
- 2:44:39Yes, I definitely a good move. They draft their rookie with RJ
- 2:44:42Harvey in the second round and still a Julio McLaughlin.
- 2:44:44Look, kind of good towards the end of the year and in the
- 2:44:46playoffs. So they got a nice kind of
- 2:44:48three-headed tandem. They don't have to force Davos
- 2:44:49to do everything. And as far as Jim Harbaugh's
- 2:44:51concerned, I just want to give a shout out to Jim.
- 2:44:53Yes. I had this same surgery as Jim
- 2:44:56Harbaugh. I had an ablation and I know
- 2:44:59what it's like you, it's an electrical, current that needs
- 2:45:02to be closed in your heart. I went through when I was 22,
- 2:45:05when it was a new procedure and it was a 10% chance that I could
- 2:45:08have died under the night. It's different now, it's a
- 2:45:11different kind of procedure, a lot of athletes.
- 2:45:13Get it. Well, not a lot of athletes, but
- 2:45:15one out of every 200 300 athlete gets something like this.
- 2:45:20It to me, it's more he's more than capable of going out there
- 2:45:24and screaming out of player after he gets a surgery like
- 2:45:27this, he just has to get a checked every six to 12 months
- 2:45:31and make sure that it doesn't reopen itself.
- 2:45:34As far as I'm concerned, I think Jim Harbaugh's going to be ready
- 2:45:38to go. During OTAs and and the regular
- 2:45:41season, I don't think it's gonna hold him back at all and what
- 2:45:44it's great tool. You got a straight to watch as
- 2:45:46an athlete as a coach. Like, when you see it, you know
- 2:45:50it and it's like The strongest thing you have is this right
- 2:45:54here. And he said he's not going to
- 2:45:56miss any time. Yeah, our body sometimes fails
- 2:46:00us, right. And it's like I gave this
- 2:46:02example to somebody, my dad had lived through so much stuff.
- 2:46:07He knew when he was done in his mind told him.
- 2:46:12He ain't done. Like, he's still gonna go out
- 2:46:15and do stuff and be the best coach.
- 2:46:17One of the best. I wouldn't say the best coach,
- 2:46:20but he's gonna be one of them. You know, he'll make that team a
- 2:46:25Super Bowl Contender. I mean, no be talking about, I
- 2:46:28think three oh he pension for sure, three years, they'll be a
- 2:46:32contender. I wouldn't.
- 2:46:34I would say with you said, three years, three years.
- 2:46:38Three years. I would say too.
- 2:46:41I I think they have a little bit more to go.
- 2:46:44I think they need to figure out their offensive line set.
- 2:46:47I don't think it's their offensive line.
- 2:46:48I think it's the defensive side of the ball.
- 2:46:50It's gonna take. They need to add some Corner
- 2:46:53help. They need to add maybe two or
- 2:46:56secondary their secondary is terrible.
- 2:46:58Yeah, they need day two, two players up front, maybe a
- 2:47:02linebacker a middle linebacker. Yeah, and a defensive tackle,
- 2:47:04they have a couple more years ago.
- 2:47:07I think three years they'll be ready to be Contender.
- 2:47:10They have a quarterback Justin Herbert special so he certainly
- 2:47:14is just wanted to give you a DOT like Dobbins obviously a great
- 2:47:18year but if you gonna draft a guy like Amari on Hampton to be
- 2:47:22your Bell, cow running back, I could see why you go away from
- 2:47:24him for sure. Let's listen to this injury
- 2:47:27history for Dallas. This is a guy that if he stayed
- 2:47:29healthy, they say the talent was just that Elite level.
- 2:47:33Type of a guy that would have been, you know, playing as a top
- 2:47:36five running back. But in high school he broke his
- 2:47:39fibula and had ligament damage in his ankle in the First game
- 2:47:42of his high school senior year when he was right before the
- 2:47:46Fiesta Bowl. If you remember in college, he
- 2:47:47had a high ankle sprain in the final game of his career and
- 2:47:51they lost he tore his ACL against the commanders.
- 2:47:55I don't know if they were still the Redskins back then, or just
- 2:47:57a football team. He also tore his LCL and
- 2:48:01meniscus and hamstring on the hit.
- 2:48:03I don't know if I've ever heard of that.
- 2:48:04Yeah, where you could tear your hamstring as well as the
- 2:48:07meniscus LCL and ACL usually you hear the MCL but not even on
- 2:48:11that one. He had to have a redo of the
- 2:48:14surgery, the following year and then had a torn Achilles in The
- 2:48:19Following Season fish for a guy who's still in his 20s.
- 2:48:25You know, still in his 20s. Well, late 20s, but you know
- 2:48:29what I mean? Like, it's still my back.
- 2:48:31When he was in high school with the injuries and got to give him
- 2:48:35credit, he played like a boss last year.
- 2:48:36I hope you success, for sure. And I just he's unlucky, but we
- 2:48:42see in sports All the Time. Jake you gotta understand like
- 2:48:46there's great players and we've seen it too.
- 2:48:50Obviously, it's Yankee fans. We've seen unlucky stuff happen
- 2:48:55all the time. Like that's just that's kind of
- 2:48:57part of sports and that just kind of what happened.
- 2:49:01And that's that's just part of them.
- 2:49:03So I, I remember thinking of the Yankees back then.
- 2:49:06I don't remember if you crossed with them or not.
- 2:49:08I think you did job but Chin Ming Wang had that.
- 2:49:11That was my dude that he like stepped on Lizzy stepped on home
- 2:49:15plate wrong or something. Oh, it was.
- 2:49:17I stole a bit early to steal it. No.
- 2:49:20Right. No, he did.
- 2:49:21He was trying like okay, slow down.
- 2:49:26We were playing the Astros. And he was rounding third.
- 2:49:33And hit the background and he got a Liz Frank.
- 2:49:37And he's just never the same like and never the same and Chin
- 2:49:40Ming and I was we were catch Partners.
- 2:49:43We were everything. And it just it was a Liz Franken
- 2:49:47is weird just because it's it's not a normal.
- 2:49:52Baseball confusion, I guess. But yeah, it was.
- 2:49:57I remember having to bring him the crutches and all the and I
- 2:50:01just loved him. I loved and it was, He was he
- 2:50:09was something special. He almost broke my thumb,
- 2:50:11literally every day. because he didn't play catching it with
- 2:50:15like, hit my thumb all the time and I'm like, Stop throwing two
- 2:50:20Steamers. Like, I just want to catch the
- 2:50:22ball like droba and Nothing. Shut up, droba.
- 2:50:30And he would like he could throw nothing straight.
- 2:50:35And it was it was crazy too. Like I remember when he went
- 2:50:40through arbitration, I got mad at it.
- 2:50:43Because he won 19 games, two years in a row and then went to
- 2:50:48arbitration. And he wanted five million, our
- 2:50:53five and a half million. In, they wanted five minutes.
- 2:50:58And literally, what? They told him he's like you
- 2:51:02don't strike enough people out. We can't give you five and a
- 2:51:05half. I mean I would be fine with them
- 2:51:08having weak contact every single time.
- 2:51:10They hit his ball. That just kept moving.
- 2:51:11Did you not see his contact? Like he's through that thing.
- 2:51:16Hey, but also too. Smell my ass, not trying to not,
- 2:51:21trying to wrap my dude out, but that was when we could do some
- 2:51:24shit, right? That's what we can do it.
- 2:51:29And but his, it was always too young.
- 2:51:32There's two teams and he you don't see a Taiwanese, dude,
- 2:51:36like that. I was yum.
- 2:51:37Yum. Second, I was the second Highest
- 2:51:41I do that. I remember him going to the face
- 2:51:43a lot. This is gonna be old man.
- 2:51:46No always is this. Not like trying to get a little
- 2:51:49extra know. It's always just wrist.
- 2:51:51Interesting, there was no one's like blade and oh, did you play
- 2:51:55with pinata or was that after when know I got him?
- 2:51:59I got him young. I got him.
- 2:52:01Young breaking news, I didn't know that.
- 2:52:05Nobody cares about your feet right now.
- 2:52:07All right, about Aaron Rodgers and his secret marriage.
- 2:52:16Who cares? I'll tell you what.
- 2:52:17I told you what my secret is. He didn't marry anybody married,
- 2:52:21his hand and he made their Brittany.
- 2:52:23Where's where's our Brittany? She's working man.
- 2:52:29Actually, no, she's not. She's I think she's getting
- 2:52:32ready for our cruise. She's been ordering stuff on
- 2:52:35Amazon all freaking day. Okay.
- 2:52:38So so you're telling me like like this is like a Manti Te'o
- 2:52:42situation. I was so, I think he's lying.
- 2:52:44That's what I think out of here. I think he's lying.
- 2:52:46I, I really do. I, is he doing it for?
- 2:52:49No. Wait, the problem is, is
- 2:52:51everybody's attacking him on? Why he didn't show up, or he has
- 2:52:55really trained this dealers. Why?
- 2:52:59Because you've already made hundreds of millions of dollars,
- 2:53:01why would you do something like I don't know you, maybe, if we
- 2:53:05ever have a moment, I don't know that.
- 2:53:08Well, ask him well, one of these days if you ever wants to come
- 2:53:11on this show. Well, ask him a, you know, who
- 2:53:14first of all, we'll make sure you're on vacation when he comes
- 2:53:17on the show because why it won't be funny.
- 2:53:20Then I'm probably no one. Has the bulls actually tell him
- 2:53:23that. Yeah.
- 2:53:25And that's not what I want. All right, that's that's been
- 2:53:30the NFL off. No, well, probably be doing this
- 2:53:35every week or so with new robot news.
- 2:53:38As we get closer to job it takes it up the yes.
- 2:53:41Anyways, when we come back, let's parlay.
- 2:53:45But first yes, our Sports minute This is the Java and the mouth
- 2:53:53Sportsman is. All right guys.
- 2:53:56Aaron Fishman with you once again for another Sports minutes
- 2:53:59and night a few stories before we get into the scores.
- 2:54:03First off Colorado, Avalanche defenseman.
- 2:54:06Caleb mccar was named the 2024 2025 Norris Trophy.
- 2:54:10Winner for best defenseman in the NHL.
- 2:54:12This is his second Norris Trophy, putting him alongside
- 2:54:16the luminaries of the sporting Bobby Orr who won it.
- 2:54:19Eight times, Dennis pop and Paul Coffey three times each rod
- 2:54:23langway and Eric Carlson who also accomplished the feat twice
- 2:54:26before his 2017, birthday like MacArthur Winski of Columbus.
- 2:54:30And last year's winter Quinn, Hughes of Vancouver finish
- 2:54:33second and third respectively, Macar had 30 goals, 62, assists
- 2:54:37and 92 points, leading all defenseman this year and up in
- 2:54:43Canada. Canadian teenager summer
- 2:54:46McIntosh is breaking swimming, records left and right this time
- 2:54:50eclipsing her own world record. She recently said in the
- 2:54:53400-meter individual Deadly with the time of 4 minutes. 23.65
- 2:54:58seconds, the second place finisher was 12, seconds behind
- 2:55:02her. Macintosh has set multiple
- 2:55:04Canadian records in the 200, butterfly and 200 freestyle in
- 2:55:07which she was just behind legendary American swimmer.
- 2:55:10Katie ledecky's most recent records set last month.
- 2:55:13Macintosh only 18 years old won three gold medals and one silver
- 2:55:17in Paris in the Olympics in 2024 and appears to be just getting
- 2:55:22started. And finally, Pablo Tori on his
- 2:55:25podcast. Pablo Tori finds out that an
- 2:55:27episode on the Enigma that is the process man himself Sam
- 2:55:31Pressley. And the depth that he goes to
- 2:55:33get an edge in the game. The secrecy of this
- 2:55:35organization, which has been a bit of a black box has been this
- 2:55:39way for so long. There's one story from Grantland
- 2:55:42years ago in which a reporter for Fox Sports said when it
- 2:55:45comes to getting a one-on-one interview, it would be easier to
- 2:55:48get access to the leader of Isis.
- 2:55:51Tori did go on to explain prestiz poaching attempts for
- 2:55:54from the media. One thing I can report is that a
- 2:55:57little over a decade ago he actually explored extreme, our
- 2:56:01extremely plugged in buddy Brian windhorst, trying to get him
- 2:56:04away from ESPN to work, as an information guy for the Thunder.
- 2:56:08The question of why would he do that?
- 2:56:09The reason why press the kick the tires on hiring windhorse
- 2:56:12from ESPN, is that information to Sam.
- 2:56:15Presti is currency, it is an edge, a competitive advantage
- 2:56:18and you don't surrender that information.
- 2:56:20The Thunder GM. Who is rarely seen or heard
- 2:56:23from, in the media has his team in the NBA.
- 2:56:25Finals is heavy favorites but are trailing in the series due
- 2:56:28to one, maybe he will finally be able to complete the process
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- 2:56:59and the mouse. Show I need a blow pop up my
- 2:57:09rear end is burning play with my pickle job.
- 2:57:12I like my swimming cocktail. Does your wiener bar?
- 2:57:18I want you to slide right in spanking.
- 2:57:22Oh, that's a good one. I like that one.
- 2:57:25Oh, like I always gave up the boot, it seems like he always
- 2:57:28gives up the booty. This makes my pecker and
- 2:57:30something is not working, right? You got to ask Java if it is
- 2:57:35Speedy, you know all about it, 631672 3108 is then I'm gonna
- 2:57:40call. It looks like Renault Johnny has
- 2:57:42a headache, because he's probably bet on this game and
- 2:57:46it's completely falling apart right in front of his, I figure
- 2:57:49it out. Ladies and gentlemen, you're
- 2:57:51listening to job in the mouth, I am the host, you know me.
- 2:57:54I don't have to give you a name and, you know, Speedy, you know
- 2:57:56everybody, you know, fish is the executive producer, Tommy bought
- 2:58:00up, you know, jobless play with himself at the college world,
- 2:58:02you know, World Series and ladies and gentlemen, we do call
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- 2:58:29the segments and all the stories that we have posted up on our
- 2:58:32social media and Now ladies and gentlemen, they've been waiting
- 2:58:34carefully at Reno Johnny is playing with himself for his
- 2:58:36looks like he's in an airport right now.
- 2:58:38Who knows we call this. Let's parlay.
- 2:58:42Parlay Olay Olay Olay. Dance time for let's plan.
- 2:58:52Yes, yes, yes. Ladies and gentlemen, I want to
- 2:58:56apologize to these boys these men last week we had Leroy on
- 2:59:02the show, LeRoy Butler, and we missed the opportunity to get
- 2:59:05these guys on. So I'd like to apologize.
- 2:59:07Speedy was really upset. He started crying after the show
- 2:59:11and he was whimpering because he wanted to see the worldwide.
- 2:59:15West is forehead and Reno Johnny's ugly shirt.
- 2:59:19Oh, how are you boys doing? Johnny, are you I'm doing good?
- 2:59:24I'm just watching a little bit of hockey here.
- 2:59:27Hockey hockey, team Canada, Team Canada, night.
- 2:59:31Look, I, I don't, I don't, I, I'm very honest.
- 2:59:34When I like her, I stick with my side and playoffs hockey and NBA
- 2:59:37playoffs. I kind of ride us series and
- 2:59:40what I think will happen in that series.
- 2:59:42I pretty much will take most every game because I figure, if
- 2:59:46I'm riding the series, I make money.
- 2:59:47All they got to do is win the series and I'll be at least one
- 2:59:50game ahead even if it Go seven kind of what I'm doing here.
- 2:59:55I'm down a little bit. I've kind of I kind of three bet
- 2:59:59this team today. I took, I took the, I actually
- 3:00:02took eulers in the second period, money line.
- 3:00:05I took the Oilers game money line.
- 3:00:07I took the team total for the game over three.
- 3:00:10So we're we're one in, oh, and one right now they can get one
- 3:00:15more four, three winner. We're good.
- 3:00:16We're feeling pretty good about this game.
- 3:00:18No, he's not having a heart attack.
- 3:00:20You sure about that. I mean, I want to payers game
- 3:00:26last night. I know a lot of people they
- 3:00:28made. I know a lot of people, they
- 3:00:29made a lot of money on that game last night.
- 3:00:31Yeah. But I'm betting the pages of
- 3:00:33different way and I it's actually done really well for me
- 3:00:35in these playoffs, their team total.
- 3:00:37I feel it's continually disrespected.
- 3:00:39They hit their team total and it's it's it hasn't really moved
- 3:00:43from my 108 to 110. They hit it like nine of 13,
- 3:00:47playoff games or 10 other 13 playoff games, they really have
- 3:00:51even in losses they're hating that that number they hit the
- 3:00:54yesterday. I had him in the First half and
- 3:00:56the game, they flew over that. I had a sprinkle on the money
- 3:00:59line I think like they that will be I have a couple different
- 3:01:04way. Like, I've actually already made
- 3:01:05money on that series, no matter what happens.
- 3:01:07I had a couple Futures plays. I've already made money on that
- 3:01:12too. So now I'm kind of sitting back
- 3:01:13and just kind of picking game by game and just kind of seeing
- 3:01:16what I can do with the Pacers team total.
- 3:01:18So there's there's still there's still a lot of value on the
- 3:01:22Pacers. I have them winning the series
- 3:01:24and I did before it started. But if you at two to one right
- 3:01:29now, I don't ever recall in any Championship, whether it's World
- 3:01:34Series, Stanley Cup or NBA championship.
- 3:01:36There are two to one and you can get plus one 70 on the Pacers to
- 3:01:41win the series. I don't believe that this series
- 3:01:45is coming back to Indiana. After what we saw last night.
- 3:01:51Yeah. See I I already have another
- 3:01:55down on the Plus on it. I took him out was that 195 when
- 3:01:58it first came after that game like that first time was they
- 3:02:01were still closed one 95. When the series I still think
- 3:02:04Oklahoma City can come back and win this series.
- 3:02:07I feel like the Pacers had really been fortunate in a lot
- 3:02:12of instances. When you look at the way they
- 3:02:14played the game now. The game two was exactly what I
- 3:02:18thought would have happened after after you lose game one.
- 3:02:21But if you look at games one and two Oklahoma City, really
- 3:02:23controlled both those games, right?
- 3:02:25They just gave it away and game one.
- 3:02:27So expect them to go back to Oklahoma City and do that.
- 3:02:30I'm looking at tomorrow. I think tomorrow, I'm only going
- 3:02:34to bet the team total for the game.
- 3:02:36I'm have one bet on the game because I look at that game and
- 3:02:39it's 6 point spread. And I just figured like, the
- 3:02:42books are begging for pacer, money like begging for Pace,
- 3:02:47your money, it almost seems like and it's kind of it.
- 3:02:49It's weird because they're getting it, like, Pacers are
- 3:02:53getting back by the public. They're actually a 30 fun team
- 3:02:56to watch in the public. So they are getting back.
- 3:02:59I'll let you All right, boys. So, you know how to play this
- 3:03:06game? It's pretty simple.
- 3:03:07We're gonna go your first, your second, your third, and the
- 3:03:11fourth as your money. Well, as your your parlay pick,
- 3:03:15I almost said money line but as you all know, so we're gonna go,
- 3:03:19we're gonna go over Reno. Johnny first worldwide, West,
- 3:03:23Second, you guys ready? I'm actually looking at a prop
- 3:03:27bet for my first play and it's gonna be on the Great White,
- 3:03:31Hope little TJ McConnell, give me his over points about seven
- 3:03:36and a half eight, depending on what prop system you use.
- 3:03:41But TJ McConnell is The Little Engine That Could, and I like
- 3:03:45the way he plays basketball, the style that he plays he's up and
- 3:03:49down the court. He's not afraid to take it, they
- 3:03:51will give the crazy part is, if you look at the last four games,
- 3:03:55five games in the playoffs, these teams are giving him open
- 3:03:58threes. And he's getting one of one, two
- 3:04:03games, and go one of the game before, that one of two the
- 3:04:06game, like he will hit a three, you get one three, you see two
- 3:04:09more buckets and you got you got the over his team, total over
- 3:04:13for me especially on the home court.
- 3:04:15The one time he did not hit, it was Game 2 when they when they
- 3:04:18were going out and he scored three points.
- 3:04:20So I really like him to get this.
- 3:04:23To get his team total over. That's my first play at 7 and a
- 3:04:26half over seven and a half points, TJ McConnell.
- 3:04:28All right, Wes give us your number one.
- 3:04:31So you guys are not going to hear me talk about any sport,
- 3:04:34wagering and any other sport in the in this segment, other than
- 3:04:40Canadian football from now, until you know, late September,
- 3:04:43or I should say early September, come college, football, be
- 3:04:47there. But if Speedy gave out my my
- 3:04:51pick to start this week it was, it was, it was Winnipeg.
- 3:04:56So, you know, right now they're, I mean, they they're, they have
- 3:04:59this game under control and they were two and a half or three,
- 3:05:01and a half Point dogs, depending on where you got it.
- 3:05:03So we started the week, four know, or the season 4?
- 3:05:07No, and it's documented. I mean, I'm I'm in the 67% range
- 3:05:11for for Canadian football. So I'll give, I'll give four
- 3:05:16fresh ones and we'll just start in order of when they happen.
- 3:05:19So tomorrow is, what is the deal with that means Wow.
- 3:05:24What's wrong with the music singers?
- 3:05:25If you, well, I, I struggled to walk into the same time.
- 3:05:30Well, So um, looking at the CFL tomorrow, we got Montreal going
- 3:05:37to fix my pecker. well, I it's gonna make me shout because I
- 3:05:45don't know if Um okay, so Montreal is going to Ottawa.
- 3:05:52I'm gonna lay the four and a half points in Montreal.
- 3:05:55They they have the best defense in in the CFL by far their
- 3:05:59rosters almost unchanged going into last week.
- 3:06:02I was concerned because of the change at the starting
- 3:06:06quarterback. It's just a really weird year at
- 3:06:09quarterback in the Canadian Football League.
- 3:06:11They're going against Ottawa. Droop around last week was he
- 3:06:17was like, I think he missed like seven passes, and he threw for
- 3:06:21over, 400 yards for for Ottawa. But they better find some kind
- 3:06:24of Run game if they're gonna, if they're gonna do anything.
- 3:06:27I don't think home field is going to make a difference.
- 3:06:29So, I'm laying four and a half and I'm taking Montreal, he was
- 3:06:3234 or 41 for 420. I mean, that's pretty good
- 3:06:36quarterback. Before it's throwing the ball,
- 3:06:3840 yards in gonna do it again. Montreal, they're gonna put you
- 3:06:41on your back at least four times.
- 3:06:43Johnny, give us a number two. I'm sticking with Indiana, I'm
- 3:06:47gonna take their team total over, 110 and a half.
- 3:06:49I guess I said, I paid attend 13 in NBA playoff games, it just
- 3:06:53hasn't moved off that line. I understand that the Oklahoma
- 3:06:57City Thunder defense is what they, what is all the Rave.
- 3:07:00I'm actually when you look at this Oklahoma City Thunder, I
- 3:07:03actually don't like the way they play basketball.
- 3:07:04They play a lot of iso with SGA at the top.
- 3:07:08They don't really move the ball around that much.
- 3:07:10They are very active on defense. They get out fast breaks, but I
- 3:07:14just feel like they're kind of this team that's a little bit
- 3:07:17overvalued the entire, what the entire way.
- 3:07:20So, when I look at the Indiana Pacers, they play in a way that
- 3:07:24forces, Oklahoma City to play outside of their comfort zone,
- 3:07:27which is fast. They expect you to get down
- 3:07:29Court, SGA will make a shot. And in three seconds, TJ
- 3:07:33mccollum's already pushed all up to pass on.
- 3:07:35He's on easy layoffs. So I think the overall pace is
- 3:07:38game is gonna dictate a lot of shopping mall.
- 3:07:40You, you can get a lot of points either side.
- 3:07:42I'd rather take the Indiana Pacers on their home court.
- 3:07:46To make more of those shots that they may not make on the road.
- 3:07:48All right, what's the West? Give us your number two off.
- 3:07:53Staying in Canada. This is a 3:00 Central kickoff.
- 3:07:56It's Calgary going to Toronto and this Toronto team.
- 3:07:59They're they're Their defensive line is all brand new compared
- 3:08:04to the team that won the Grey Cup last year.
- 3:08:06And it's a total of six or seven defensive starters.
- 3:08:09And I say six or seven because one of them was kind of a, it
- 3:08:14wasn't a starter, but he was in most of the plays.
- 3:08:16Um, so I this Toronto team is really confusing to me.
- 3:08:22I think that they're going to get better as the season goes
- 3:08:24on. But I, I always have a pretty
- 3:08:26good read on Calgary and Calgary's getting to points.
- 3:08:30They want to game last week. They want to game last week
- 3:08:35where their quarterback through two interceptions early and
- 3:08:39Diedrich Mills. They're running back found away.
- 3:08:42It was three total touchdowns rushing receiving, just kind of
- 3:08:46carved him up Vernon Adams. Jr.
- 3:08:48Is not gonna throw two interceptions in this game and
- 3:08:51he's probably going to use his legs.
- 3:08:52So I, I like Calgary not only taking the two points but I like
- 3:08:55them to win outright 75 205. If you're you're betting, you
- 3:09:00take the points for 75% of your, your wager and the other 25 on
- 3:09:06the money line and get paid a little bit of extra on Calgary.
- 3:09:08All right, Johnny give us a number.
- 3:09:12Going to the diamond here in a weird way.
- 3:09:14The Rockies that actually made me a little bit of money over
- 3:09:16the past couple nights been in some overs and betting them when
- 3:09:20plus one and a half and some money line kind of coming in
- 3:09:23catching a lot of value. And now they go to Atlanta and
- 3:09:26look, this Rocky team is just it's a season from Hell.
- 3:09:30They've won 13 games, we're in June, right 113 games, yet NFL
- 3:09:37teams, that finish the year with 13 wins and and they they can
- 3:09:41grab 13 wins by by June, so it's kind of crazy.
- 3:09:44And now they go on the road with the pitcher.
- 3:09:46That's struggled mightily German Martez against the Braves who I
- 3:09:51think are in this weird month right now.
- 3:09:53But this Rocky seems exactly what they need about.
- 3:09:56Out of that slump. I think they have the pitching
- 3:09:58event at the line of events. I'm gonna take them on the Run
- 3:10:00line. I'm -1 and a half probably still
- 3:10:03Landing a little bit of juice, so they minus one 30.
- 3:10:05If you can lay any alternate, two and a half, I would like to
- 3:10:08do that as well. But I'm just gonna give out the
- 3:10:10honest, one and half minus one. 30.
- 3:10:13All right, twice, gives you. Number three.
- 3:10:16Well I to keep this thing alive. I owe everybody a fourth.
- 3:10:20Oh my God, we gave the other one earlier.
- 3:10:22So I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna stay with the Calgary
- 3:10:25game and just similar reasoning, I really like this.
- 3:10:28Receiving core a lot. You know, Barnes begelton.
- 3:10:32And then like I said, Vernon Adams, Jr is not going to throw
- 3:10:35two interceptions in the first half in this game.
- 3:10:37So I'm gonna, I'm gonna take the over 11 and a half for the
- 3:10:41Calgary standards in the first. I think that they're going to
- 3:10:45put up two touchdowns possibly more on this vulnerable Toronto
- 3:10:49defensive line. All right, Reno, give us your
- 3:10:53final pick of that night. I'm gonna go back to the Pacers
- 3:10:57and I'm gonna go Pascal. Siakam again.
- 3:11:00This is not typically what I, what I would do like a regular
- 3:11:03season. I pick a team and just take him,
- 3:11:05but in the playoffs, I do take a side and find good value within
- 3:11:10that side. I like pasta.
- 3:11:11Yeah, he's aggressive. He's getting it into the paint
- 3:11:16and he is getting to the free throw line.
- 3:11:18He's making those free throws, four free throws made.
- 3:11:21So get to the free, salon sheets to the high 80% clip.
- 3:11:25I think he does stay aggressive again.
- 3:11:28We have the benefit of taking pace for props especially in
- 3:11:31Indiana. Where we mean I wanted to take
- 3:11:33them in Oklahoma City, so let me four free throws me by pastel.
- 3:11:37Yeah. All right.
- 3:11:38West give us your final, pick of the night.
- 3:11:42Yeah, surprise. We're gonna, we're gonna stay in
- 3:11:45Canada. And this is another road one.
- 3:11:47But I'm gonna lay the points. I'm laying three points in
- 3:11:50taking Saskatchewan on the road at Hamilton is probably the
- 3:11:53least intimidating. Foam feel that there is it's
- 3:11:56just it looked kind of looks like a High School stadium, but
- 3:12:00last week, believe I Mitchell through the ball. 50 times, he
- 3:12:04went 31 of 50 because they have absolutely no rushing attack at
- 3:12:08all. He threw for 5700 yards, last
- 3:12:11year. He was the, he was the leading
- 3:12:13Pastor in in the entire CFL, but Hamilton has no rushing attack
- 3:12:17at all. The Saskatchewan has a really
- 3:12:20good defense. They, they lost their starting
- 3:12:23running back last week at a jail let and they still pulled off
- 3:12:27the win. I really like Sasuke.
- 3:12:29They're my They're one of my great cups.
- 3:12:33Of course, it all depends on what Winnipeg does because
- 3:12:36they're kind of like the New England Patriots or the Chiefs
- 3:12:39but but I do like SAS chances of finding their way into a Grey
- 3:12:42Cup and They should make easy work of Hamilton.
- 3:12:46I think I'm gonna sprinkle some alternate point spread on this
- 3:12:50one and I'm probably gonna lay eight and a half on this and and
- 3:12:53get a little bit plus money on it, but the spread for this game
- 3:12:58is minus 3. You, you try and throw the ball
- 3:13:0150 times against them that you, it's just not gonna work not
- 3:13:04against them titties. All right, boys, we really
- 3:13:09appreciate you guys. You guys, I'm I again I'll
- 3:13:12apologize for what happened last week.
- 3:13:13We had we did have a Hall of Famer on in LeRoy Butler.
- 3:13:17He was Sensational as great. I watched it for a while.
- 3:13:20Yeah, he was really good. He gave us some good takes and
- 3:13:23definitely some interesting information about Brett Favre
- 3:13:26and if you like them, you hate them.
- 3:13:29You love them. It's like Leroy.
- 3:13:31I would write him. So he probably did.
- 3:13:36I mean everybody else did? You know, therefore I didn't see
- 3:13:43that my wife watch that documentary because she was like
- 3:13:45it was gonna be like I have anymore.
- 3:13:49I said I really don't care. It was I thought, I'd like.
- 3:13:54I like what Netflix is doing with those untold stories.
- 3:13:57I I do and I think it's cool. And yeah, he got to you get to
- 3:14:01you, obviously learn about, you know, the Green Bay Packers and
- 3:14:05how important the quarterback in the quarterbacks were with the
- 3:14:09organization and even the Aaron Rodgers.
- 3:14:10Yeah, let's go. Oh, Oh somebody.
- 3:14:18Oh yeah, it's Tommy sharing memories and I would my rear end
- 3:14:21is burning. Oh yeah.
- 3:14:23Fish just said in the private chat, Jake Walman scores.
- 3:14:25The goal for Edmonton in the sports minute.
- 3:14:28I'm a little disappointed that we didn't bring up Antonio Brown
- 3:14:32news, why don't you break it for us?
- 3:14:35What's the audio Brown? What is it now?
- 3:14:38NASCAR they have released a warrant for his arrest for
- 3:14:43attended murder with a deadly weapon with the fire that
- 3:14:45incident where he said he's getting robbed and he liked to
- 3:14:48get his gun out. They're charging him with
- 3:14:50figures. Figures the guy's out of his
- 3:14:53mind. I mean, what?
- 3:14:55I don't understand. How does the Pittsburgh
- 3:14:57Steelers? Have such a odd.
- 3:14:59Track record with, with wild characters at wide receiver.
- 3:15:03Why don't we reach out to Ben Roethlisberger and ask him?
- 3:15:07He's got, he's got his He said, I know that's why I said we
- 3:15:13should reach out to him. Mike Wallace for Statehood for,
- 3:15:17not being that guy. But I'm not gonna lie and they
- 3:15:20only got one won Super Bowl. I believe, I don't know,
- 3:15:23actually they did last one they had was the Cardinals won, but
- 3:15:26but that that little Trio like it's one of the biggest things.
- 3:15:31Where would they be on Bell Ben Roethlisberger and Antonio
- 3:15:35Brown. I feel like that Trio really
- 3:15:37dissipated a lot quicker than than alavian.
- 3:15:41Bell was hanging out with his cousin who was Underage.
- 3:15:45I mean, Antonio Brown, I don't know what he's doing.
- 3:15:49I mean obviously, he's citizen way too many times.
- 3:15:52I mean, the last time, I remember him on a football
- 3:15:54field, it was in MetLife when he was running off the field with
- 3:15:58no shirt on. So I've lost a lot of thought
- 3:16:02and a lot of sleep on thinking on what happened to Antonio
- 3:16:04Brown, and as far as lady on Bell kept his mouth shut when he
- 3:16:09came to Chiefs Kingdom and I believe he walked away with a
- 3:16:12ring but he didn't do much. Yeah I think Kevin McCoy like
- 3:16:16got like no snaps so they bought a Super Bowl ring.
- 3:16:19I think back to back here. She was like man you know
- 3:16:24running backs are so different because like they are so short.
- 3:16:29You know, they're, you know, you just bring back crime is just so
- 3:16:31different and I feel like Shady McCoy, even even his prime was
- 3:16:35just insane. I was showing some CT footage or
- 3:16:38what my God, ah, but certain certain running backs like over
- 3:16:43the last 10-15 years, that teams allowed to just continue on,
- 3:16:49like, Adrian Peterson had a pretty extended career.
- 3:16:51It feels like perfect actually. Still get a chance to play in
- 3:16:56the NFL after that hit. I mean, seriously.
- 3:16:57Yeah, I mean I saw this thing today too.
- 3:17:01That kind of blow your mind a little bit.
- 3:17:03I was like no way. Sean, Alexander retired. 17
- 3:17:07years ago. I remember.
- 3:17:08And he has Tom Brady at 47 years old because we forget like he
- 3:17:14were tired at 30 years old. Yeah.
- 3:17:15Well so Tom Brady is a quarterback and he barely gets
- 3:17:18touched. I mean, yeah, like priest Holmes
- 3:17:25had what three great years and he was it the running back
- 3:17:29position is just so It's hard. It's hard to sustain that what
- 3:17:34happened. Hockey or no football this the
- 3:17:39receiver. Yeah, they did it wasn't our boy
- 3:17:41but All right. All right.
- 3:17:45Oh yeah, you know, we got a game coming up that we play that.
- 3:17:49I think you guys might like, called King of the Hill, that
- 3:17:52would be very easy for you to participate in it.
- 3:17:55If they won't as they're more than welcome to.
- 3:17:57If you want anyways, let's do it.
- 3:18:00We call this King of the Hill and here's the King of the Hill.
- 3:18:05This Bobby is the Beltline you never ever.
- 3:18:08Hit below that. Not that kind of, King of the
- 3:18:11Hill you dumb. This is King of the Hill.
- 3:18:16All right, here we go with another episode of King of the
- 3:18:19Hill. Let's get the interns in joining
- 3:18:22guys. King of me, get in here.
- 3:18:25All right. So, here's the thing.
- 3:18:27Our king is not couldn't make it tonight.
- 3:18:28So he's gonna have to Forfeit the crown and, you know, have a,
- 3:18:32you know, crown for Crown matchup at some point with the
- 3:18:36winner tonight. But Errol since you were the
- 3:18:38last king, you will be in the king seat for tonight
- 3:18:41reassigning. You know, like kind of like
- 3:18:43running for president again, just like, if we let you vote,
- 3:18:46you know, it's bounced something bad to happen.
- 3:18:49I mean, this guy, I think he just restricting voters rights,
- 3:18:55I get it. Well, you're going to have to
- 3:18:57actually, you have to earn the right to get those points.
- 3:19:01So he can't just sit there and say, oh, I could look it up
- 3:19:05that, that's all I got to do. Oh, I just have alternative
- 3:19:08math. Well, I don't know what, here's
- 3:19:10your turnip math, I keep it to yourself.
- 3:19:12Now let's go, there we go. King of the Hill.
- 3:19:15We have three rounds to throw in the king.
- 3:19:18The first round is the peasant fight.
- 3:19:20Everybody's in it and we have three different names that were
- 3:19:24gonna have to give based on the mystery top.
- 3:19:25Pick in the round. The winner, the two winners of
- 3:19:28that round will be decided by our King that will go on to the
- 3:19:31joust to face off for a chance to take on the king of the final
- 3:19:35round. Where all of us will vote
- 3:19:36democratically, whether the king likes it or not.
- 3:19:40For the next king. Are you boys ready to play?
- 3:19:43Tonight's King of the Hill? All right, just go here it.
- 3:19:50Is fired right now. Here's the topic best tight ends
- 3:19:55of all time. All right, so we're gonna get
- 3:19:59into this camera angle view. I will put my self over here and
- 3:20:03we will go down the line started with the interns Aaron and
- 3:20:10really putting me on the spot. I'm not football's, not my
- 3:20:13strongest shoes, but I won't say Tony Gonzalez is going to be up
- 3:20:18there for one of the best items and football.
- 3:20:21He again, I don't know a lot of the history and all the numbers
- 3:20:24but I do know that he was dominant.
- 3:20:26When he did play, he's up there. You just had worldwide West
- 3:20:30actually coming his pants so because he's a, I don't know.
- 3:20:36I think he was a Bears fan. I'm gonna surprise you.
- 3:20:37Oh, I like it. All right.
- 3:20:40That's a good one. Obviously Hall of Fame, Jake.
- 3:20:45Yes it is pretty simple for me. I'm gonna go with Rob Gronkowski
- 3:20:48almost 10,000 career, receiving yards 92 touchdowns, four-time
- 3:20:54All-Pro, Hall of Fame, all 2010's team and I was, you know,
- 3:20:58pretty much Tom Brady's favorite Target through those second half
- 3:21:01of those Patriots, dynasty years.
- 3:21:03So he's pretty clearly. One of the best tenants of all
- 3:21:06time and probably the best. Less.
- 3:21:10You know, I think everybody wants me to say Travis Kelce
- 3:21:13because he's very close to Breaking Jerry Rice's postseason
- 3:21:16receiving records but I'm gonna go Shannon Sharpe.
- 3:21:19I think that it not for Shannon Sharpe.
- 3:21:22We wouldn't be looking at the tight end position.
- 3:21:24The same way that we do today. Shannon was the first guy to
- 3:21:27come in with speed and actually become a true threat in the
- 3:21:32passing game. You played with Elway most of
- 3:21:35his career and, and that was probably the right quarterback.
- 3:21:37He has a big moments in the Super Bowl.
- 3:21:40I think, with without him, there might not have been much
- 3:21:42offensive productivity for that Baltimore Ravens team, that won
- 3:21:46a Superbowl. Shannon Sharpe is very much the
- 3:21:51Pioneer in what we know wide, receiving or tight end to be
- 3:21:54today. Yeah, and we would know all this
- 3:21:58gossip and see these weird videos online and either.
- 3:22:01Now, I'm just talking about what he did on the field.
- 3:22:04That's true. That's true.
- 3:22:05I'm gonna go next. I'm gonna go with The guy who's
- 3:22:09probably the best undrafted player of all time.
- 3:22:11San Diego. Newly minted.
- 3:22:15Hall of Famer, Antonio, Gates Gates.
- 3:22:17Obviously just got into all of him.
- 3:22:19Nobody really could explain to us.
- 3:22:21Why he wasn't a first ballot Hall of Famer, yet?
- 3:22:23He had to go in a second year, played all those years with
- 3:22:26Philip Rivers made, Philip Rivers.
- 3:22:28Look like a Hall of Famer to Errol maybe less.
- 3:22:30So to other people and at the same time, dominate a game,
- 3:22:35playing the Titan position like the best basketball player, he
- 3:22:38was kind of boxing guys out playing a different type of red
- 3:22:42zone offense. Not just fade balls, but Slants
- 3:22:45skinny posts, things that can use the front of the end zone.
- 3:22:49Back of the end zone and be really, really versatile.
- 3:22:52And almost on completely on guardrail.
- 3:22:54Antonio Gates Speedy. I'll stay with the same team for
- 3:22:58the 80s. Kelvin Winslow, one of the
- 3:22:59better receiving ones in that era to it.
- 3:23:02Dan Fouts really was the number one Target on that team Forever
- 3:23:04on a team that was a little more like, Dan Fouts was great.
- 3:23:07And they had a little More defense, but put up receiving
- 3:23:09numbers that time that was on her first time.
- 3:23:13Tommy. I'm gonna have to say it's funny
- 3:23:17because all my tight ends got picked that I was gonna say
- 3:23:18already, but I'm gonna go with Mr. Ozzie Newsome now, Mr. Ozzie
- 3:23:22Newsome was actually a really good tight end and a time when
- 3:23:25like some of like the Speedy's last pick when tight ends really
- 3:23:28weren't putting up the numbers that, you know, that he was
- 3:23:31actually putting up. I mean pretty impressive stats
- 3:23:33Hall of Famer 7,000 over almost 7000 yards, career wise, 47
- 3:23:38touchdowns. And let's also not forget that
- 3:23:40he was a great great executive over in the Ravens, but that's
- 3:23:44not talking about a tight end wise.
- 3:23:45But however, as you do some is a very, very standout tight end
- 3:23:50Excellent. Johnny going last is tough, is a
- 3:23:53couple of my Titans got chosen. Oh, we're going two more times.
- 3:23:55You better start digging deep. Well, yeah, West took it and
- 3:23:58then coached so many good. I took Shannon Sharpe.
- 3:24:03That was your guy. Period.
- 3:24:06I as a kid, I actually grew up kind of like, loving the Broncos
- 3:24:09won. My best friends is Bronco, fans
- 3:24:10are like, I just kind of like, grew up around that.
- 3:24:13So that was kind of my go-to. Antonio Gates, exciting players
- 3:24:18as well, that was my second, but I'm gonna go with Jason Witten,
- 3:24:20no championships, but they're 11 Pro bowls 13,000.
- 3:24:26Receiving yards, rarely missed a game due to injury.
- 3:24:30I mean I saw that guy get his helmet ripped off and run 30
- 3:24:33more yards out for the new rule came in at the moment.
- 3:24:36I ripped off the play, so just a tough as Nails.
- 3:24:41The what exactly expect out of a Titan position?
- 3:24:44But a very good threat and he was the Mr. Dependable.
- 3:24:48Anytime Tony Romo needed somebody to throw two.
- 3:24:51Jason Wynn was there. So I think he was one of the
- 3:24:53best tight ends at the time. All right.
- 3:24:56I'm gonna try to keep this fair and we're gonna do it like a
- 3:24:59snake draft. We're gonna come back the other
- 3:25:00way. We're gonna call stay with
- 3:25:01Johnny for his first pick in the second round.
- 3:25:06Give us another another tight end.
- 3:25:07Yeah, my dick. He gotta give me my dick.
- 3:25:13Again, that's what we talked about the tight end position
- 3:25:17like you can't talk about it without my dick.
- 3:25:20And so I think you played at a time where football we can argue
- 3:25:24has gone a little bit softer in the rules but I'm gonna argue
- 3:25:27that the hits have gotten better, you know, more more
- 3:25:29vicious, right? But I think the Plate at a time
- 3:25:32where he, you know, they showed up to work and it was a tough as
- 3:25:36Nails position thought he did. Well, he was one of the better
- 3:25:39tight ends of his time for sure and I think like Shannon Sharpe
- 3:25:42you don't really talk about tying without my dick and stuff.
- 3:25:45I'll go my dick from my second one.
- 3:25:48Tommy, I'm gonna say Travis Kelce.
- 3:25:50Travis Kelce is modern day, one of the most modern best tight
- 3:25:54ends within the last 10 years. The last couple years and really
- 3:25:57though he didn't have the most Stellar year this past year and
- 3:26:00he's been in League forever and in such a short time that he's
- 3:26:03been with Patrick Mahomes, he's doing the best things that we've
- 3:26:06seen since Brady and Gronk sends that tight and connection right
- 3:26:09there and he's number one option, 100% Travis Kelce with
- 3:26:13almost 1300 13,000. Receiving yards.
- 3:26:18What I get tight end I'm going with Travis Kelce.
- 3:26:21Speedy. All right, I'll take another
- 3:26:22one. Probably slightly after the Mike
- 3:26:24Ditka era, Jackie Smith for the Saint Louis Cardinals.
- 3:26:26Then it turned into the Phoenix. Cardinals was almost I believe
- 3:26:28almost 8,000 yards. I don't have the exact number.
- 3:26:30I think it was like something like 7700 for.
- 3:26:33And again, another era. That wasn't there, a quarterback
- 3:26:35rotation, that wasn't great. I think a Jim Hall and a bunch
- 3:26:39of other guys, Neil Lomax. I think later in his career.
- 3:26:42Like it was not a great quarterback room with the
- 3:26:44Cardinals ever really, and he's still at almost 8,000 yards,
- 3:26:47another one that was kind of a later Hall of Famer than
- 3:26:49expected, but he's gotta be up there.
- 3:26:52I'm gonna, when I think it's tight ends, I think about all
- 3:26:54around tight ends and I think about toughest guys on the field
- 3:26:58because they got to be offensive.
- 3:26:59Lineman part-time and receivers part-time.
- 3:27:01And there was nobody, who did it better in the 1980s than the
- 3:27:05toughest guy on the Giants? Because he got the respect to
- 3:27:08that defense Mark Bavaro might not have had the elite receiving
- 3:27:12stats, but everybody in the league knew that was the guy,
- 3:27:15they had the game plan around, whether it was in the Run game,
- 3:27:18especially in the Run game, or is going to be in this short
- 3:27:22passing game with the timing routes.
- 3:27:24He was Elite at both of those things for a long time, and
- 3:27:28dominated the league and won a couple of titles Mark Bavaro
- 3:27:32Let's go to Wes. I'm gonna go to, you know, when
- 3:27:39I started really getting into football, which was in the late
- 3:27:42eighties early nineties and you know, Dallas started to dominate
- 3:27:45and I always thought it was fun to watch.
- 3:27:48Jay Novacek, he was a nice change of pace from some of the,
- 3:27:52you know, the the triplets or the, the Deep threats, the
- 3:27:56Dallas had and he always seemed to be catching a difficult ball
- 3:28:00in the end zone and You know, one won Super Bowls with them.
- 3:28:03So I was always a fan of Jay Nova.
- 3:28:06Check. all right, Jake All right, so for me, we're second
- 3:28:11time. I'm a mistake in 2010.
- 3:28:12I'm gonna go with a really underrated in my name, and I'm
- 3:28:15gonna go with Greg, Olsen a guy who was Cam Newton.
- 3:28:18Pretty much his blue guy there and Caroline.
- 3:28:20He had a lot of fantastic years for them.
- 3:28:22Plenty of touchdowns, tons of yards, multiple Time pro bowler
- 3:28:25and you know, help getting that team that 15 and one record came
- 3:28:29up a little short and Super Bowl, but he was a fantastic and
- 3:28:32throughout the entire 201. For two picks, Florida.
- 3:28:38Just scored by the way. Of course.
- 3:28:41Jake takes takes, right. When I was gonna pick a great
- 3:28:45Olson, but I'll just, I'll stay in the current ERA.
- 3:28:47Honestly, just staying here. He's probably one of the most
- 3:28:50dominant at least now within a couple of tight ends, but George
- 3:28:53Kittle is gonna is gonna be up there.
- 3:28:55He's underrated compared to the other guys that playing now, but
- 3:28:59he's still dominated. As always being with us at the
- 3:29:02San Francisco 49ers. It's a great good pick
- 3:29:04underrated pick, but I'll go enjoy schedule.
- 3:29:07Nice and give us one more for your last one.
- 3:29:09And this is our last picks, guys.
- 3:29:13Go back to me. Yep.
- 3:29:14Oh better. Going now, then going seven
- 3:29:17picks for now. Okay.
- 3:29:17How do you know if I have another one to be on the top of
- 3:29:21my head like that again? I don't know, football's, on my
- 3:29:24strongest strongest points, you know, right?
- 3:29:25You could pass, we'll pass, we'll pass go back to me.
- 3:29:28All right. Jake.
- 3:29:31All right, so for my third pick, I'm being a little bit of a home
- 3:29:34or about him. Do it.
- 3:29:34Another 2010 is great as Zachary's phenomenal,
- 3:29:38Philadelphia Eagles, fantastic, receiving threat, especially in
- 3:29:42those times when we didn't have the greatest wide receivers out
- 3:29:44there, that hurts was always a reliable guy.
- 3:29:46He had a fantastic run with eagles helping them when the
- 3:29:49first Super Bowl and then he's even been fantastic.
- 3:29:52The ladder started his career with the Washington commanders,
- 3:29:55helping Jane Daniels, you know, being a safety blanket for him
- 3:29:58and taking them all the way, the NFC Championship again.
- 3:30:00So, yeah. Is that her?
- 3:30:02Wes. I don't know how we've gotten
- 3:30:05this far without naming this guy, but Greg Olsen, we did say
- 3:30:10Greg Olsen Well, you know, I was probably looking at something
- 3:30:14else. That means I got to come up with
- 3:30:15another one. Yeah, I was no, I'm definitely
- 3:30:23not gonna pass it. Literally making a list.
- 3:30:25I'm trying to remember who you guys.
- 3:30:26Give me one second. You can tell you if they were
- 3:30:29taking I have, we take in Dallas Clark, we have not All right.
- 3:30:34Well, he was quite the weapon for for painting, man.
- 3:30:37I guess Although, although it was it was during, you know,
- 3:30:42Manning's win 12 and choking the playoffs and era because it's
- 3:30:46mostly what he did with the Colts, but Dallas Clark was
- 3:30:49always a threat. I think that he, I think he
- 3:30:52clocked in with over 50 touchdowns and at one point, he
- 3:30:57led tight ends in catches. I think it was a waiter on nine.
- 3:31:01All right, I will go with my last one and personally, I don't
- 3:31:06care if you don't like it, but when I was in high school, my
- 3:31:10favorite player on the Giants was Jeremy Shockey and Jeremy
- 3:31:14Shockey big tattoo on his bicep of the bald eagle, American flag
- 3:31:19was always in short sleeves. Again toughest guy on the field,
- 3:31:25maybe not the best blocker. You would think he'd be a better
- 3:31:27blocker with his size but they were he was one of the first
- 3:31:30guys that you saw it being slid out as an extra receiver.
- 3:31:33That was a tight end and kind of changing the dynamic of who can
- 3:31:36cover. Who and now you have to put a is
- 3:31:39a corner going to be able to handle that physicality and jump
- 3:31:42balls. I vividly remember him doing a
- 3:31:45jump ball over, Brian Dawkins and then passion to touchdown
- 3:31:48and talking trash to him right in the face in a way that let
- 3:31:51the Giants get to the playoffs over the Eagles that year Jeremy
- 3:31:54Shockey was the main while he was healthy, Jeremy Shockey,
- 3:31:56Speedy. All right, I'll go back to the
- 3:31:5870s 80s. Our two one of the better
- 3:32:00blocking tight. Ends ever for the at the time.
- 3:32:03Oakland Raiders, then Los Angeles, Raiders Dave, Casper
- 3:32:06got 60 touchdowns. I believe.
- 3:32:07He had it close to 6000 receiving yards and not a big
- 3:32:10our for tight end but was a great run blocker for those
- 3:32:12Marcus Allen and later on Bo Jackson running game.
- 3:32:15So it John Madden is the coach with those Super Bowl winning
- 3:32:18teams. So give me Dave Casper in my
- 3:32:20last one. Tommy, I'm gonna go with Heath
- 3:32:24Miller Heath Miller was a very reliable option for the Big Ben
- 3:32:28Steelers era and won those two Super Bowls over there. 45
- 3:32:32touchdowns to about his career. Two-time pro bowler as well,
- 3:32:35too. So, I mean, Heath Miller had
- 3:32:37some big time catches too in the regular season games, a couple
- 3:32:40of Big Time patches as well, but people big touchdowns even in
- 3:32:43the playoffs as well. So, I'm gonna go with Heath
- 3:32:45Miller from the Pittsburgh Steelers.
- 3:32:47And last but not least, Johnny Reno to close out the rounds and
- 3:32:52Jeremy shocked. He was working on next guy, West
- 3:32:55to my guys, taking it. So I'm gonna go deep in the bag
- 3:32:58here. And I'm gonna go and I'm
- 3:33:01surprised Zach's mistaken. Let's take him.
- 3:33:05Die. Who took that one?
- 3:33:08There's one relative named left that I was thinking of still,
- 3:33:12oh, you know what? I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go a
- 3:33:15different route. I'm gonna go a guy, still
- 3:33:16playing right now coming into a second season.
- 3:33:20He will be one of the best tight ends ever played the game, and
- 3:33:24that's McBride. The average like 10 10 targets a
- 3:33:27game and his rookie season, doesn't drop has a big cash
- 3:33:31radius. It's a lot of yards.
- 3:33:33He plays that he's got that like wide receiver ability at the
- 3:33:37tide in position. I think he's gonna be one of the
- 3:33:40best time ever. I'm gonna go I'm gonna go that
- 3:33:42route and he's still playing, he's a long career.
- 3:33:44One of the best. Oh you guys forgot.
- 3:33:46Jimmy Graham. Just so you know.
- 3:33:47Yeah, that was the name that I was saying.
- 3:33:49If somebody said Earl. Time for you to make you just
- 3:33:54simple who's going on to the jailhouse.
- 3:33:56This one simple speedy and west. All right, everybody else you
- 3:34:02can go to the backstage. Thanks for playing, we're moving
- 3:34:04on to round two. See, you know what he and I want
- 3:34:08to I want to say something. You guys you can look at you
- 3:34:12have to be when you're putting your team together.
- 3:34:15You have to look at what they did at the time that they did
- 3:34:19it. Nova check you guys don't even
- 3:34:22know who Nova check is. I would have taken Nova check I
- 3:34:24mean Nova check is was a great. I had him on my list.
- 3:34:27He's a great dude. I watched Nova check play.
- 3:34:29He was I'm the one that named the damn guy.
- 3:34:32I don't if you didn't that route.
- 3:34:34Well that's why you there were certain things that stood out to
- 3:34:39me and I know you guys make faces because you're picking
- 3:34:41guys like wronkowski and this and that that's fine but that
- 3:34:44you're not digging deep you gotta take deep when you're
- 3:34:46looking at this stuff and you gotta explain yourself.
- 3:34:49So more about the argument then just letting it actually telling
- 3:34:55me why you picked the guy and and tell me a little bit about
- 3:34:58what that guy. Did that really changed the
- 3:35:01game. All right, let's not what you
- 3:35:03say. It's how you say it?
- 3:35:04Let's move on to the joust where in this round we will find out
- 3:35:10what are the best catches Of all.
- 3:35:15Time. So we're talking football again.
- 3:35:17The most famous catches, the most famous situations.
- 3:35:22The best you decide what the term best means?
- 3:35:26and let's get it going right now, with Speedy and West
- 3:35:33Speedy. Start us off actually Arrow.
- 3:35:35You decide who goes first, it doesn't matter.
- 3:35:38Okay, do you go? King says doesn't matter?
- 3:35:39Speedy. Go first.
- 3:35:40I'll start with the obvious one here.
- 3:35:42Our New York, Giants. David Tyree.
- 3:35:44I don't know how that was enough there with the way that play
- 3:35:46extension work. Stick it to helmet, gets Ronnie
- 3:35:49Harrison Hall of Famer, very tougher, a fourth receiver, like
- 3:35:52it's tough to not have that one. Around the top.
- 3:35:57All right, West. You know, I am gonna go with the
- 3:36:03Immaculate Reception Franco Harris, that it's a highlight,
- 3:36:07that'll just live on forever, the tip ball and he just kind of
- 3:36:13went with it. It's, it's a highlight that we
- 3:36:15will forever see it impacted the game.
- 3:36:17He is a Hall of Famer on one of the best teams that has ever
- 3:36:21taken place. It's just one of the most famous
- 3:36:23catchers All right, back to Speedy.
- 3:36:26All right. I'll stick with that.
- 3:36:27Same Arrow too. We'll go to the Dallas Cowboys
- 3:36:28Drew Pearson catching the game-winning.
- 3:36:30I don't think they call it a Hail Mary at that time, but it
- 3:36:33was a very long passing against a stout coin.
- 3:36:35Yeah. And they had a bunch of Hall of
- 3:36:38Famers in that secondary too and the NFC Championship Game to
- 3:36:41advance Dallas to a Super Bowl, but pretty high Max.
- 3:36:43It's All right, and over to Wes. You know, I'm gonna go with one
- 3:36:49that has nothing to do with offense.
- 3:36:50I'm going to say Malcolm Butler the New England, Patriots
- 3:36:53interception, that pretty much locked up the Super Bowl against
- 3:36:57Seattle, Seattle, had everything going for him.
- 3:36:59It was a really bad call made by the coach but Butler read that
- 3:37:04play. He knew exactly what was going
- 3:37:06to happen and he went and won the damn Super Bowl with the
- 3:37:08catch. That did not score touchdown
- 3:37:10actually prevented one. That's, it's hard to argue with
- 3:37:14that one. Moving back to Speedy.
- 3:37:16And I'll go with the other, famous catch that want to Super
- 3:37:19Bowl. San Antonio homes is second year
- 3:37:21in the league, doing it against Arizona, which had a very stop
- 3:37:24secondary. At that time, some big physical
- 3:37:26corners on that team and Steelers.
- 3:37:28I got young team, big pressure and a lot of money with the Jets
- 3:37:31name, a lot of money with the Jets and that was before,
- 3:37:33really, that tall. Tapping thing was very popular
- 3:37:36from these receivers now you see like receivers do it overnight.
- 3:37:38But in that moment, I first smaller guy, too, Santonio
- 3:37:41Holmes, stuff like this. All I would say Imani tumor made
- 3:37:46that famous a little bit, the toe table.
- 3:37:48Just kind of. It wasn't like a bedding across
- 3:37:50the league where everyone was trying to do it at that time.
- 3:37:52No. But the tumor did it before, no,
- 3:37:54I must say nobody did. It wasn't as much as I'm sure.
- 3:37:59It's one. I'll be sure to tell him that
- 3:38:02there was there was a catch. And, and you New York, people
- 3:38:05will remember this, but there was a catch that Randy Moss made
- 3:38:08over Darrelle Revis jumped up and it was a one-handed thing
- 3:38:12pretty much snatched it out of his face over his head.
- 3:38:15I remember it. Um, he just pure Randy Moss
- 3:38:19fashion and and I will I will never forget it and it was
- 3:38:22incredible and it was because of who Darrelle Revis was at the
- 3:38:25time and revised Island and and Moss just hosted him up and
- 3:38:30said. I'm still the guy.
- 3:38:33All right, King time to decide who goes on to face you there?
- 3:38:37It's so close. It's so close and I I like Wes's
- 3:38:41pics. I do the interception.
- 3:38:43I I mean you can you can argue that too and that is a catch so
- 3:38:47you could call that. But I'm gonna go with speed.
- 3:38:49I think Speedy made his points and I like the Speedy I like
- 3:38:52Speedy's first toothpicks those are two memorable but I mean how
- 3:38:57about Odell Beckham's? Catch that unbelievable catch?
- 3:38:59That was one of the greatest catches even Carol Wilson last
- 3:39:02year that catch that he made was just ridiculous.
- 3:39:04Like Evans had a really insane one my Cafe in like 2017, he got
- 3:39:08soaked by Keanu, Neal out of there was a lot of great catches
- 3:39:12at Tony o'brown meets some unbelievable catches and over
- 3:39:15the years. Calvin Johnson that Hail Mary
- 3:39:16with a triple team. I guess I was a crazy one.
- 3:39:19So all right, let's go. All right, so everybody back in
- 3:39:24and we're all now the voters. To decide.
- 3:39:29The winner of the last round of this one.
- 3:39:31I mean, we got obviously, When you mention it, the game that I
- 3:39:35actually was at in this end zone, but a little high up when
- 3:39:39Odell Beckham made this catch, but we lost that game.
- 3:39:41So whatever still was a great place.
- 3:39:44I tried getting Brandon Carr on the show, The Corner that he
- 3:39:46beat on that play and he just kept ghosting us.
- 3:39:48Yeah, he did. I would too after famously
- 3:39:51getting humbled on that play, while getting in getting an
- 3:39:54interference penalty that they had to decline.
- 3:39:56This was Touched. All right, here we are last
- 3:39:58round. I think we got a good topic here
- 3:40:01Errol for this little one and we've got take on the king
- 3:40:06round. Best offense's of all time.
- 3:40:11Give me either like the era of the team or if the team like the
- 3:40:15offense had like a famous nickname.
- 3:40:16You can go with that as well. Arrow, you decide if you want to
- 3:40:20go first, I'll go first second. I'll go first.
- 3:40:25I'm gonna go with and I forget what year it is, but it was the
- 3:40:28Randy Moss. And Tom Brady, New England
- 3:40:31Patriots that offense was absolutely on believable, Randy
- 3:40:37Moss. I think at that that year had
- 3:40:39like 25 touchdowns at some ridiculous number Tom, Brady
- 3:40:42threw like 5,000 yards. It that offense was absolutely
- 3:40:46just Unstoppable. And everybody was talking about
- 3:40:50it because I remember the Broncos offense, a couple of
- 3:40:53years before that when they went to the Super Bowl.
- 3:40:55When Seattle beat him, you know, in in MetLife before that
- 3:40:59snowstorm and everybody's like that's that this number will
- 3:41:02never be broken. That was when Peyton Manning
- 3:41:04broke 50, but this was the one of the greatest if not the
- 3:41:07greatest offense of all time. I I they were Unstoppable.
- 3:41:11Both guys were Unstoppable. So I'm gonna go out as my number
- 3:41:13one. All right, I'll start with the
- 3:41:14greatest show on Turf Rams. Isaac Bruce Tori, hold two Hall
- 3:41:18of Famers Marshall Faulk, probably top 10 running back.
- 3:41:20Probably the best receiving running back or second.
- 3:41:22Best receiving run back yard probably in the Danish and from
- 3:41:24scrimmage all time. And then obviously Kurt Warner,
- 3:41:26what a story. He was Orlando, Pace offensive
- 3:41:28on the offensive line, future Hall of Famer and a couple other
- 3:41:31really good players on that team.
- 3:41:32Obviously the only one, the one Super Bowl, but they were for
- 3:41:35five years straight, maybe the best offense in the NFL and one
- 3:41:38of the best we ever seen. Errol.
- 3:41:40I'm gonna go, I have to go, I just mentioned them, it was the
- 3:41:432013 Denver Broncos, the Peyton Manning Denver Broncos, I mean,
- 3:41:49I went to the Super Bowl and I remember that but nevertheless
- 3:41:53they broke every single record. I mean they I think they
- 3:41:57staggering 66 points. I'm just looking at the numbers,
- 3:42:00Peyton Manning broke the single season record passing yards and
- 3:42:03touchdowns. I the Broncos had, I think two
- 3:42:06or three guys that out of a fasting yards in the season, I
- 3:42:10there were unbelievable. That was probably arguably the
- 3:42:14greatest offense of all time, especially regular season
- 3:42:17offenses of all time, Peyton Manning and the Denver Broncos
- 3:42:202010. I'll go to the Saints in 2011,
- 3:42:26that offense, that was a 34 point.
- 3:42:29Game offense, Drew Brees definitely could have been
- 3:42:31robbed of an MVP of that year. Obviously, the monster running
- 3:42:35backs that they had, they had Reggie Bush, their Mark Ingram,
- 3:42:37one of the best offensive lines that year and Statistically
- 3:42:40speaking was the highest scoring until that Broncos season.
- 3:42:43I think since the Rams the Rams greatest show on Turf offense
- 3:42:47that year and was a passing attack.
- 3:42:48That was insane. Luckily, they lost in the
- 3:42:50playoffs, the 49ers helped our Giants fish because I don't
- 3:42:52think they were beating the Saints and they play in that
- 3:42:54championship game, but that was insane offense on a team that
- 3:42:57had no defense by the All right, Earl.
- 3:43:00Oh I'm kicking things. Just one, I'm kicking things
- 3:43:03everywhere. Around you went with the 2000
- 3:43:06Rams, right? And the first one.
- 3:43:08Yep, the 2000. Yep.
- 3:43:09Which one 2099. The greatest.
- 3:43:12No, no. It's supposed to be like, just
- 3:43:13like an era of it. Oh, so it's like so where you
- 3:43:17can't, you can't, I can't go with it because both years, they
- 3:43:20were no sensation. He takes all those Rams, you
- 3:43:23take all the Manning Broncos stuff, he and the Brady stuff
- 3:43:27with the. All right, the Moss, I'm gonna
- 3:43:30go, I'm gonna go with the John Elway.
- 3:43:31Bronco's, that offense was unbelievable.
- 3:43:34I thought arguably one of the best underrated.
- 3:43:37You mentioned a tight end. Well, we were, there was a guy.
- 3:43:40There was a guy that played for the Giants and the giant
- 3:43:44drafted. And then he went over there to
- 3:43:46the Broncos and one a couple of Super Bowls and his sons.
- 3:43:48Now, one of the star running backs for the San Francisco
- 3:43:5149ers, you know, I'm talking about, you guys forgot about
- 3:43:54him, he would have. Yeah, Mr. Ed McCaffrey, who's a
- 3:43:57Hall of Famer, by the way? I I I'm going to go, I'm gonna
- 3:44:00go with that team. They had David Davis Terrell
- 3:44:03Davis, one of the fastest, one of the best Runners at the 90s.
- 3:44:07One of the more underrated running backs of the 90s, a John
- 3:44:10Elway's, one of the greatest quarterback.
- 3:44:12Of all time, nobody can argue that.
- 3:44:13And that offense was so explosive for for how many years
- 3:44:17was that one of the best offenses in a league?
- 3:44:20I, I would go with that that Broncos or I guess that Broncos
- 3:44:24team in the 90s. So I'm gonna go Broncos, I'm
- 3:44:26gonna pay homage to the tight end that Wes mentioned and
- 3:44:29picked his offense, and that's the early 90s Dallas Cowboys on
- 3:44:32Troy Aikman and Smith and that offensive line arguably, the
- 3:44:36best ever with the two guards that they had with Newton and
- 3:44:38the rest in peace, Larry Allen, Michael Irvin Jane Nova check,
- 3:44:41they won multiple Super Bowls with obviously the early range
- 3:44:46of Jerry Jones before he got dumb, but that offense all
- 3:44:48around defense was pretty. Damn that defense was very good
- 3:44:50too I mean so that's why I didn't get the cuts for that
- 3:44:56reason. I go with all that Deion Sanders
- 3:44:58you could go on your boy. All right, it's time for us to
- 3:45:04vote. And again when we're voting,
- 3:45:06we're taking a couple things into account the quality of the
- 3:45:09team that was given to us. But all so that I'd say an equal
- 3:45:14parts The argument for that team.
- 3:45:17So consider both of those things, I'm going to give you my
- 3:45:20vote. I have Errol in a squeaker on
- 3:45:23this one. I like the taken.
- 3:45:25I think I'm gonna take Manning's team over the Rams team, just
- 3:45:30because I've never seen anything like the Manning teams and I
- 3:45:33think the Rams teams they had a lot of different permutations of
- 3:45:36it, and I've seen them lose as well.
- 3:45:39So yeah, the Manning cement like we never really saw him defend
- 3:45:43it because he was hurt the next year.
- 3:45:44He was not the same guy, they still got the Super Bowl as a, I
- 3:45:48mean, the guy without being able to throw, he's still got this
- 3:45:51Super Bowl, he got killed at that point but let's face it.
- 3:45:53That's one that's all really kind of impressive to be able to
- 3:45:56get it through like that. Brady Moss, let's face it.
- 3:46:00That stop and I'll by the way Brandon I think if I'm not
- 3:46:02mistake and Marshall was on a team if I'm not mistaken know I
- 3:46:05know Eric Decker was on that. It was Eric Decker's receiver
- 3:46:10Thomas. Yes fantastic yeah.
- 3:46:13And Going to go, the Run game of Elway's team over the Run game
- 3:46:19of the Cowboys team, just buy a square because I think Terrell
- 3:46:22Davis, you know, with the shorter Peak he was playing at a
- 3:46:26higher level at that Peak than Emmitt Smith was at his Peak and
- 3:46:30I just think Terrell Davis for that.
- 3:46:32That's why he's in the Hall of Fame.
- 3:46:33He didn't play that many years, but when he was there by far,
- 3:46:36the best running back in the league at zone offense, everyone
- 3:46:39does it now it's the Shanahan offense.
- 3:46:41His father ran it with Kubiak, it's not surprising that offense
- 3:46:44is still around. So influential I go with that
- 3:46:47reason. Tommy, I'm going with the arrow
- 3:46:50as well too and similar to what you said fish.
- 3:46:52It's very, very close. I just think that, that 2007
- 3:46:56Patriots team was just absolutely ridiculous.
- 3:46:58But hey, it even makes it even better because that's Giants
- 3:47:00fans. We all know what happened in the
- 3:47:02end but hey, um, honestly don't know that.
- 3:47:03Brady in that Brady, Randy Moss connection was really great for
- 3:47:06real long time and I think that was Randy Moss's first year.
- 3:47:09So to come into this first year, we all knew what Randy was
- 3:47:11coming coming into that first year and getting paired with the
- 3:47:15best. Quarterback.
- 3:47:15You know, he had a crazy almost 1500 receiving yards for Randy
- 3:47:21Moss, 50 touchdowns like Aaron mentioned for and as well as I
- 3:47:26want to mention that, the two Broncos teams I do, just like
- 3:47:28them just a bit over. Then the Saints and Cowboys
- 3:47:31teams that that Speedy mentioned.
- 3:47:34But it's really close. It really was close, but I have
- 3:47:36to give it to Hero on this one, all right, Wes two votes for
- 3:47:39Errol first off. I just got to say that nobody
- 3:47:42mentioned the 2018 Chiefs who are statistically better, know
- 3:47:45in every team that in every average.
- 3:47:48Oh there's statistically better than the greatest show on Turf.
- 3:47:51That being said um I I really didn't care for errol's Elway
- 3:47:56Elway. You Bronco reference.
- 3:47:59I think they were better offense.
- 3:48:01Is that could have been brought into the picture, then that, and
- 3:48:03I don't think Terrell Davis was underrated Harold.
- 3:48:06Davis is one of the greatest running backs ever, probably the
- 3:48:09best running back of that, decade outside of Barry Sanders
- 3:48:12and Emmett. However, I like, I like, the
- 3:48:16Petey brought the greatest show on Turf into the picture and he
- 3:48:19brought up the saints that same offense is not one that
- 3:48:22everybody thinks of and nobody brought in any type of paint
- 3:48:25Manning Colts. But um you know another Choice
- 3:48:28there. Like I said you lost it.
- 3:48:31You lost me on the way Broncos. I'm giving my vote to Speedy.
- 3:48:34What did I lose you? Oh man.
- 3:48:36Ed McCarthy outside Zone. What is Terrell, Davis, the
- 3:48:42Broncos with John Elway, two-time Super Bowl champion.
- 3:48:45What are you talking about? I lost you.
- 3:48:47I think, I think you're lost. I think you lost the translation
- 3:48:51statistically that offense is not anything compared to the
- 3:48:55ones that Beatty mentioned. Oh, I think that's old white.
- 3:48:58I just give you the two best offenses of all time.
- 3:49:02So I don't know what you're talking about the Broncos, and
- 3:49:05the Patriots in 2017 on a best basketball.
- 3:49:07Offenses of all time. It's not Patriots 2013.
- 3:49:19Broncos is the best offense of all time.
- 3:49:21Go, look at the numbers, the numbers don't lie, you'll lost
- 3:49:24if you don't think that that was, it was even 139.
- 3:49:27I agree with 13. That's what the argument was.
- 3:49:29Where you remember, two out of three.
- 3:49:33I'm just tearing thing, guys. Let's let's move on to one Jake.
- 3:49:42Here. So I think you guys did a pretty
- 3:49:44good job. I think I had a really close to.
- 3:49:45I think, for me, it was one one. It came down to the middle of
- 3:49:49session. I think Arrow definitely had it
- 3:49:50with the Patriots pick, I think Speedy, with the Cowboys pick.
- 3:49:53He had that one but for me, it came down to the middle pick and
- 3:49:55I think for me, it was the, the Peyton Manning Broncos, just a
- 3:49:59squeaking that over the New Orleans Saints, Drew by Drew
- 3:50:02Brees. And I think Drew Brees
- 3:50:03personally, more of the success of those teams were predicated
- 3:50:06on Drew Brees and maybe not as much as you see.
- 3:50:09A lot of the time agree with that ends, they always came up
- 3:50:12short in part because of his defenses in, you know, having
- 3:50:15the skilled position I think Drew was able to elevate his
- 3:50:18teams a lot. But Peyton Manning just, I think
- 3:50:20took it to another level. He still holds the single season
- 3:50:23passing yards, record for single seat that was like 5400 yards
- 3:50:27and about 50 touchdowns. They scored over 600 points and
- 3:50:31I mean, they get shut down by the legion of boom which was
- 3:50:33roughly Awakening for them. They did end up still winning a
- 3:50:36Super Bowl at the end of Manning's career.
- 3:50:37So I think that for me just speaks out a little bit so I'll
- 3:50:41give it to Arrow. But again it was very close by
- 3:50:43the way and and that leads in a boom that secondary is arguably
- 3:50:46the greatest secondary of all time.
- 3:50:47So For sure, for sure, pretty legendary.
- 3:50:51Three to one Aaron. I'm gonna keep it short and
- 3:50:55simple. I'm gonna go around this one.
- 3:50:56I do think contrary to what was said.
- 3:50:58I do like the Bronco pick-ups specially with the way Broncos.
- 3:51:04I think that's it's such a great team and I do feel like
- 3:51:08sometimes it kind of go. It kind of get missed over and
- 3:51:11maybe it's me because I didn't obviously want to play at the
- 3:51:13time. I only seen them after the fact
- 3:51:15but I'm just gonna keep it short on this.
- 3:51:18One. All right, so that clinches it
- 3:51:19but let's hear from Johnny Reno. Yeah, you know, I actually agree
- 3:51:23with a lot of us said, I think Errol lost and I think Arrow had
- 3:51:26it and he lost me when he doubled down and took the nine,
- 3:51:31eight nine Broncos over the pain management cold because the
- 3:51:35payment let Colton 04 and 06 specifically.
- 3:51:38Because remember before the 55 touchdown season and he had it
- 3:51:42in Denver, he had to go through Indianapolis and there was
- 3:51:45consistently about six years. They started attending oh
- 3:51:48because they had a high powered offense with Marvin Harris.
- 3:51:51And hey, Manny Edgar and James. That's eating Dallas car at team
- 3:51:56was absolutely double down and he said that you still believe
- 3:52:03that 99 Broncos for better than the old 406 Colts.
- 3:52:07That's new lost. He disappointed with brought up,
- 3:52:09doesn't matter, but I vote for Speedy on that.
- 3:52:12All right. So it's four two by a split
- 3:52:16decision. I went like What's everyone else
- 3:52:19is the king? It's a majority decision and
- 3:52:22that is King of the Hill next week.
- 3:52:25We will. Well, you know, arrow is not
- 3:52:27there for now lost. I love Wes and I love Reno
- 3:52:31Johnny, but they're lost. I think they forget how good
- 3:52:33that Broncos offense was they're lost.
- 3:52:35I mean, John Elway. You can argue is one of the
- 3:52:38greatest quarterbacks ever play and to sit there and say well,
- 3:52:42he doubled down because you didn't go with Indianapolis and
- 3:52:46Peyton Manning and Reggie Wayne and Marvin Harris.
- 3:52:49Said that's fine. I could have went that route
- 3:52:51too. I'm just I Remember by the way
- 3:52:54how many championships did that team?
- 3:52:56Have? How many How many wanna check
- 3:53:00out they want a championship? They're first of all, they want
- 3:53:03a championship because they beat the Chicago Bears and a backup
- 3:53:07quarterback. They beat a quarterback that
- 3:53:09nobody's even heard. You just told me that the 2013
- 3:53:12Broncos that offense was insane. Yeah.
- 3:53:15Well, that offense insane about eight games into the next year,
- 3:53:18when they actually won the Super Bowl.
- 3:53:21But let's give the argument that they, they won that Super Bowl,
- 3:53:24not because of their offense was terrible.
- 3:53:27They're talking about, that's where we're talking about the
- 3:53:30defense. Yeah, where we are talking
- 3:53:32about, all that say, you're 2013, offensive Broncos didn't
- 3:53:38date, that offense didn't want to defense, really.
- 3:53:41I I remember, I remember in 99 when the Jets were up a
- 3:53:46significant total and they were going to the Super Bowl and yeah
- 3:53:50John Elway in the second half. Took him all the way back so I
- 3:53:53don't know what you're talking about.
- 3:53:54You're lost. It's okay that's fine.
- 3:53:56Know, what was definitely right though, we Should have gave the
- 3:53:592018 Chiefs a shot. I mean, technically, rookie
- 3:54:02Mahomes, still 5,000 yards. I'm not gonna give Mr. I'm
- 3:54:06Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce, giving Mr. Hall, the Colts would
- 3:54:09have been probably my neck and that Johnny and I was and that I
- 3:54:14honestly don't think so, because the only weapon they really had
- 3:54:17there was their their quarterbacking, Travis Kelce,
- 3:54:20they're offense wasn't prolific. And you don't think that you I
- 3:54:27think I think Tyree kill is one of the most overrated wide
- 3:54:30receivers in the NFL. So take care.
- 3:54:33Take that, take that goodbye. Yeah, goodbye.
- 3:54:37Just Ringo Ringo Johnny over. There we go.
- 3:54:40Go, go, go. Take the ring, take the Ring.
- 3:54:43We and I don't I don't I want nothing to do with Tyrell.
- 3:54:51Goodbye goodbye. We love you know go.
- 3:54:54Bye now goodbye. So long farewell.
- 3:54:59We appreciate the time. All right, guys, what a great
- 3:55:05episode of King of the Hill? Thanks for playing right next to
- 3:55:09the next part of life sector for voting for me.
- 3:55:10I knew they were voting for you. I knew they were gonna go for
- 3:55:15you, but that's fine. I disagree with them honestly.
- 3:55:18I like, I like that India, those Indianapolis teams with Peyton,
- 3:55:23Manning Edgerton, James and Reggie, Wayne and Marvin
- 3:55:25Harrison. And you could I could have went
- 3:55:26that route. But I'm also looking at what
- 3:55:28John Elway did and the Really everybody talks about the
- 3:55:32Gunslinger, he pretty much brought that whole gun slinging,
- 3:55:37you know, situation to the NFL. Everybody keeps talking about
- 3:55:40Dan Marino, the Gunslinger was Dan.
- 3:55:43I mean, I'm not dead Marino. It was John Elway.
- 3:55:46Who had the biggest forearms? I mean, I've ever seen in my
- 3:55:49entire life, that guy's four arms were absolutely ginormous.
- 3:55:53So you talk about Mark McGwire, if you put Mark, McGuire's
- 3:55:57forearms to John Elway, it's not even comparable.
- 3:55:59That's how big John lace Fortune right now.
- 3:56:03If you meet John Elway, which I had a chance to do that, his
- 3:56:06forums are still big still you, so, and I am sure he doesn't
- 3:56:10even work them out anymore. So just four months.
- 3:56:14They're still right though. Yeah.
- 3:56:16Is that what you're trying to flex right now?
- 3:56:20I got nothing else. Access to John Elway and you can
- 3:56:25compare. And I I'll tell you this
- 3:56:27Renault, Johnny can shove Tyree kill up his ass?
- 3:56:30Okay, that's all I gotta say about Tyreek Hill.
- 3:56:34Give me a break. You know what is it?
- 3:56:35You're not gonna win with that paddle with the cheese fan?
- 3:56:38I don't care. You're not gonna sell me on on
- 3:56:43Tyreek Hill. Okay, I'm sorry.
- 3:56:45You could try to do whatever you takes.
- 3:56:48It's not gonna work with me, you can eat it.
- 3:56:50Suck it like a candy, a Blow Pop and shove it where the sun
- 3:56:54doesn't shine. If it's dealing with the Blow
- 3:56:56Pop. Tyree kill is the most overrated
- 3:56:59wide receiver. We've ever seen in NFL history.
- 3:57:03He's so overrated and highly paid.
- 3:57:05Okay, and he and I, as far as I'm concerned.
- 3:57:09Yeah. He may catch his, he was he the
- 3:57:12reason why they won those championships.
- 3:57:13No, not really. So, I I'm sorry, I'm gonna speak
- 3:57:17the truth, the running game and in certain aspects of Super Bowl
- 3:57:21their defense won those game. I was just say, Tyreek Hill's
- 3:57:25trade Hall. Might have worn them a few
- 3:57:27championships getting McDuffie and Carl Loftus at all.
- 3:57:29Those guys in the hands to reason why Kansas City decided
- 3:57:31to part ways with him, because they knew they can win without
- 3:57:33my which they did, which they did by the way, without him.
- 3:57:37So that's why I wouldn't put Candice City there either.
- 3:57:40That's what these boys don't understand.
- 3:57:41I'm trying to give you some knowledge.
- 3:57:43I'm dropping knowledge for all you guys.
- 3:57:45You guys can think I'm nuts. All you want.
- 3:57:47I understand the game and Tyree kill, ask my Amy.
- 3:57:52How great Tyree kill is they're trying to get rid of them.
- 3:57:54They got a guy named, I don't know, Jaden wattle who's pretty
- 3:57:57much the, the better version of Tyree kill.
- 3:58:00So you could take that and sink that if you guys want to really
- 3:58:04try to compare. And contrast, why I've receivers
- 3:58:06in the NFL right now, they have like he has a guy on a team
- 3:58:09that's better than he is. So that's all I'm going to say
- 3:58:11about. And by the way, Jada who doesn't
- 3:58:13get himself into trouble stays out of the tabloids?
- 3:58:17Why would you want Tyreek Hill on your football team?
- 3:58:20That's all. And I'll have a plan that
- 3:58:22doesn't get in trouble. I'm done.
- 3:58:23I'm done with This. And that's my argument here.
- 3:58:25And I, I see here, and I argue my points.
- 3:58:28And by the way, I want to get, we have to go inside, baseball.
- 3:58:30I gotta say one more thing to West because he says, he didn't
- 3:58:34like my argument, Hey Wes. I got a question for you because
- 3:58:37your, your statements on the the Saint Louis, the Saint Louis
- 3:58:42Rams and and that you know that Turf team.
- 3:58:46If you look at that Turf team and how good that Turf team was
- 3:58:50and they have Tori, Holt, they have they have Falk.
- 3:58:53They had two wide receivers, that should still be in the Hall
- 3:58:56of Fame, but they're not. Okay.
- 3:58:58I I look at the comparison to what the the Broncos were the
- 3:59:03Broncos. The two guys, I meant and
- 3:59:05McCaffrey, he's a Hall of Famer. Um, yeah, Terrell Davis.
- 3:59:10He's a Hall of Famer and you have yeah brought Smith's Rod
- 3:59:14Smith, he's all of Famer. I mean stop it.
- 3:59:18Stop it. That's all I'm gonna say.
- 3:59:20All right. Let's go.
- 3:59:21Let's go to inside baseball. Now, let's go team.
- 3:59:25Deep inside, baseball, I saw a good.
- 3:59:31He's here. So we got, he said, yes to
- 3:59:34shower. So he's gonna take a shower.
- 3:59:35So we gonna have to sneak right in or I guess it's gonna be us
- 3:59:39very good. I got, I got a few minutes.
- 3:59:42I gotta drive the Panama City. We just want to walk off in the
- 3:59:4511th. It was crazy lot.
- 3:59:53Fast liquor. That's probably your fault
- 3:59:58goody. breaking news, he was off, but You know, I have is
- 4:00:09insane Bros, like nowadays is absolutely crazy.
- 4:00:15All right, well, we're gonna get to college game a little bit,
- 4:00:19but let's go through some stories going on right now,
- 4:00:24inside baseball. So, first thing's first, we got
- 4:00:28Byron. Buxton.
- 4:00:29Hitting the big, huge home run, almost 500 feet.
- 4:00:33This is a guy that was a top prospect had all the hype in the
- 4:00:38world. Kept getting hurt.
- 4:00:41Still gets hurt. Sap.
- 4:00:42Some of his speed was a five tool player defense speed power.
- 4:00:47He hasn't been able to put it all together.
- 4:00:50He may be doing so right now, we got Arrow.
- 4:00:55First of all, incredible incredible power.
- 4:00:58And if this guy could stay healthy, I mean they've got
- 4:01:02something. We all know what type of player
- 4:01:04this guy is. He was a top draft pick.
- 4:01:06He's a great player and I obviously there they have a slew
- 4:01:11of talent in their farm system and they've been calling them
- 4:01:13up. They they problem right now
- 4:01:15really lies in pitching. So congratulations, he's a good
- 4:01:19player man. And if he can stay healthy, this
- 4:01:21guy's gonna the skies, the limit on, where this guy's gonna go.
- 4:01:25There's the number one, be expecting baseball.
- 4:01:26I think the year after Bryce Harper was he was that five tool
- 4:01:30player like scouting out like looking at prospects of the time
- 4:01:33I probably outside of a cunha there wasn't like a more
- 4:01:35complete player I thought coming out it just a shame.
- 4:01:38What happened in with all the injuries accumulated in his
- 4:01:39career, good play. And yeah, that's why he's like
- 4:01:43top 50 player. He's healthy and baseball, he's
- 4:01:48Shall we ever play with someone similar?
- 4:01:50Where he knew that. If he could just stay healthy?
- 4:01:54This guy should be like one of the best players in the league.
- 4:01:56He just met but it didn't just come together or it came
- 4:01:59together late for him. Jacoby Ellsbury. oh, here he had
- 4:02:09the one year like know, I, I never played with, I Stephen
- 4:02:14Strasburg Well, he was really 125 million dollars, nobody.
- 4:02:21He should have been better than he is, he just don't disagree,
- 4:02:26but But he did get the contract because he was, I know what he
- 4:02:33did. We're saying like a guy that
- 4:02:34didn't get to that point but should have Good eating know,
- 4:02:40Harry Woods, Cary Woods. What are you talking about?
- 4:02:45Harry would strikeout game that but he never really became the
- 4:02:49player that he was. Probably the all these guys.
- 4:02:59What am I talking about? Kerry Wood was supposed to be a
- 4:03:01starter was supposed to be a star and he never got there.
- 4:03:04That's good. Stay healthy.
- 4:03:04Well that's what they say about me so much like a full season
- 4:03:13that was good in his career. Oh he's never like twice.
- 4:03:21Yeah. So that's more what I'm saying.
- 4:03:22There was like one recent one. I want to say 21, there was one
- 4:03:25reason, one we actually did stay healthy but it wasn't many.
- 4:03:30All right. Goody anybody for real.
- 4:03:34I mean, I thought Jacoby, I was very solid, but he made a ton of
- 4:03:37money, but he just could never stay on the field.
- 4:03:39So it's like, you know, it was always heard or something,
- 4:03:42something was always falling. So but I mean he did find a fat
- 4:03:46contract with the Yankees. So I don't know, any counts and
- 4:03:49have and how many plate? How many games did you play with
- 4:03:52the Yankees in how much money was he stealing sitting at home?
- 4:03:55I mean, that's Carl pavano. They could have a contest and
- 4:03:59who stole more money from the Yankees.
- 4:04:01That's for sure. Oh, Elsberry, way more because I
- 4:04:05was only 45 million. Yep, I think Havana throwed
- 4:04:08through like 30 pitches. Totally ridiculous.
- 4:04:11Do you want to know how many games you could?
- 4:04:14Be else. Very played in the contract year
- 4:04:16because of six years. How many blood didn't play a
- 4:04:21full season? Yeah, certainly wasn't a great
- 4:04:24contract. Another guy that apparently was
- 4:04:26really hurt for a number of years guys, Javy Baez, how have
- 4:04:31an afterthought you know, wasn't going to get it done.
- 4:04:34Bounced around the league, obviously, locally for a little
- 4:04:37bit. He got a lot of money.
- 4:04:39I lost you. He got he got a lot of Javis.
- 4:04:43Got a lot of money, not as much as he expected.
- 4:04:45Yeah, it doesn't matter, get over 100 million, you're gonna
- 4:04:47tell me prior in woods who are supposed to be stars in the
- 4:04:50league who got hurt over and over and over again, they
- 4:04:53couldn't stay healthy. And they were not anywhere close
- 4:04:57to as good as they should have. Been.
- 4:04:58I just said, they're not, they were not healthy, they got
- 4:05:01injured. How many times to carry wood?
- 4:05:03Got hurt, get hurt over and over and over again.
- 4:05:06And he came back here, he was a relief pitcher, but he never
- 4:05:09really got to that point where he was gonna be the star.
- 4:05:12And prior to another Cub that was a top pick.
- 4:05:15And never got over the hump, because he couldn't stay
- 4:05:17healthy. That's what we're talking about.
- 4:05:18They never really good example. What was too would wash to carry
- 4:05:23wood was supposed to be a star. The wood had a little horses
- 4:05:26saying, success as a relationship.
- 4:05:28He was supposed to be a starter. I know they both look, that's
- 4:05:33what I'm saying those we start. Now, how about is?
- 4:05:35He did get paid but he was arguably the worst player in
- 4:05:38baseball. For two straight years, he was
- 4:05:41putting up a sub 550 Ops which is you should be in the minors
- 4:05:45type of the lowest among qualified headers up until
- 4:05:47August last year. And you know, they sat him down.
- 4:05:51The Story Goes that he was trying to play through pain for
- 4:05:55a number of years and they eventually told them.
- 4:05:57You got to knock this off. We got to set you down, we got
- 4:05:59to get your surgery, his hips, roll off, obviously.
- 4:06:02It sapped his power. Well, right now, his Opps is
- 4:06:05over. 700, he's into 60, something.
- 4:06:08He's got a little bit of Pop. Again, like things around seven
- 4:06:10home runs, he seems to be back and he had a nice.
- 4:06:13I got another one, I got another one Tigers reverse is not about
- 4:06:17doing that anymore. Roberto Kelly just so you know,
- 4:06:20Roberto Kelly Roberto Kelly. He was a job before my time with
- 4:06:24the Yankees. Yeah.
- 4:06:24But is that who they traded for Poland?
- 4:06:27Yes, but he was supposed to be specialized.
- 4:06:29I remember he was supposed to be special.
- 4:06:31He's a top draft pick for the Yankees.
- 4:06:32I never really turned out to be anything for the Yankees.
- 4:06:35So or anybody else, by the way? So Speedy gave us some stats on
- 4:06:40Javy Baez. Jabba, if this guy is healthy
- 4:06:44playing the way that we thought he's played.
- 4:06:46What is that mean? For the Detroit Tigers this
- 4:06:48year? It was it it's funny you say you
- 4:06:52bring him up because I had this conversation with Francisco
- 4:06:56Lindor. Because obviously being, you
- 4:06:59know, Puerto Rican guys. And I was like, I didn't like
- 4:07:05His stuff at first because he hadn't proven anything. and,
- 4:07:11Frankie was like, really. is like, you don't know him and I
- 4:07:18was like, damn, you're right. You are right.
- 4:07:22And he had a, he had some moments.
- 4:07:26Do I think he's special in the things that he does?
- 4:07:29Yes. Do I think he puts it together?
- 4:07:32I think he's gonna be Really good.
- 4:07:35He's not old. I mean, he's older but not old.
- 4:07:41I think he has a chance and I think what he does and all eat
- 4:07:46my words and I'll look to to endure and be like I was wrong.
- 4:07:52because he was so flashy and foremost in like the early part
- 4:07:57of career because the sexy And then he didn't go out and do
- 4:08:01anything. And I'm like, That doesn't mean
- 4:08:04anything to me. Like, go on and do it. and, I'm
- 4:08:10happy for him. Like I wish everybody said
- 4:08:13anything that they do, right? And I think he's kind of,
- 4:08:18because he's kind of toned down. If you, if, if you watch the
- 4:08:22game and you understand the game, he's kind of calmed down a
- 4:08:25little bit. Know, he certainly not screaming
- 4:08:28at everybody anymore and talking smack in the middle right game,
- 4:08:31right? Because you can't.
- 4:08:32Because at the end of the day, you can't do that. if you're not
- 4:08:38producing, you can't do it. Sorry about your life.
- 4:08:42Because nobody's gonna hold Cloud to that.
- 4:08:45I think he's been humbled a little bit and that's I think
- 4:08:48that's great for him and that's why I think he's like you know
- 4:08:52what? Let me change like we could all
- 4:08:55change, right? And now he literally understands
- 4:09:01exactly what it is. Well that's the rocky said,
- 4:09:04right? If I could change who you could
- 4:09:06change, we all could change. I just want to say something
- 4:09:10Leon called Leon dry side. Oh is ridiculous.
- 4:09:14That goal is just scored, was disgusting, disgusting.
- 4:09:19Absolutely on a backhand with one hand holding off the so
- 4:09:23happy. This series is gonna go six or
- 4:09:25seven. I'm so happy.
- 4:09:26Why? I like, literally, I'm looking
- 4:09:28this way, disgusting. And absolutely, I guess I got so
- 4:09:31many TVs around me. I'm like, let's go on to
- 4:09:34something tonight. I have to say absolutely
- 4:09:37disgusting. That's all So the Brewers top
- 4:09:43prospect guys. Throwing 102 103 routinely his
- 4:09:47name is I forget his first name now was it?
- 4:09:49Jake? Jacob.
- 4:09:50Jason Mr. Roeske. Mr. Oski.
- 4:09:53He debuted for the Brewers tonight.
- 4:09:55Jabba, he threw five. No hit Innings, three walks five
- 4:09:58strikeouts. I would say it's pretty good.
- 4:10:01They there's a video, you can see online of him on Twitter.
- 4:10:04Throwing a 96 mile an hour slider. 906 slyder, his heart.
- 4:10:12I used to be like that. You shouldn't be throwing like
- 4:10:16that bro. Yeah, no three Noah syndergaard?
- 4:10:19I remember that guy who's staring sliders like that 495
- 4:10:23with the beginning is, nevertheless, nevertheless is
- 4:10:26led to I said in the Sportsman at their fifth starter.
- 4:10:29I was Aaron savali. He's asking for a trade, he
- 4:10:32didn't want to be demoted to the pennies, the free agent.
- 4:10:34So it's going to hurt his money. So he's being asked, I want to
- 4:10:37say something, I just I'm sure as this take to it.
- 4:10:40I will say this. All these young flamethrowers
- 4:10:44that you're hearing throws 102 103, they never last Never Never
- 4:10:50Last, and we've heard it and we've heard all different
- 4:10:53pictures Verlander came out over the years.
- 4:10:55That said it, who's the guy with the two of colored eyes off?
- 4:10:57Sure. He's another one, it's really
- 4:11:00how you train your arm when you are young man.
- 4:11:02Before you get into the big leaks, is how long you're going
- 4:11:05to last. When you see these guys throwing
- 4:11:07100 to 103 and their flame throws.
- 4:11:09And by the way, nobody seen this guy pitch yet.
- 4:11:12So when you get on the mound to get throwing that hard, that's
- 4:11:15why he was pitching five. No hit, Innings.
- 4:11:18Nobody seen him. So, I mean that's like video
- 4:11:22games. Fine. 96 miles shopping, never
- 4:11:25heard show was Chapman Chapman for years?
- 4:11:27I think they said it was video game stuff and then people
- 4:11:30figured he's, but he's still, he's still doing it.
- 4:11:32I mean chat, I mean, Chapman look, obviously there was the
- 4:11:36issues. We talked that we talked about
- 4:11:37not talking about it's got his talent throwing 100, he was
- 4:11:41throwing 1005, I mean, We know he's, he's hit 1005 number of
- 4:11:44times this career. Oh that's all.
- 4:11:46So Benji. Yeah, you know.
- 4:11:49Yeah, that's right. Good throwing that hard now
- 4:11:51speedy. What is the, if the Brewers keep
- 4:11:55bringing up guys that are dominant, we already saw.
- 4:11:58Logan Henderson the sent back down.
- 4:11:59It's obviously still there, too. They're probably going for it
- 4:12:04all. Or if they don't think so they
- 4:12:08could trade all those veteran arms and just go with these guys
- 4:12:10who's in a better like which way do they go?
- 4:12:12But either way, pretty good spot for them franchise, what?
- 4:12:15Yeah, I was gonna say like, they can't treat him like they did
- 4:12:18with Henderson because I think we were all agreeing with
- 4:12:20shocking the way they did it. Yeah.
- 4:12:21You want to? I think you said a job like you
- 4:12:23were waiting. Maybe you have two bad starts,
- 4:12:25then consider sending him down but like you're already dealing
- 4:12:28with the Innings limit as is now he's brought up later in the
- 4:12:31season. Maybe that was a plan maybe that
- 4:12:32was part of the development process.
- 4:12:34But yeah I would imagine like the Brewers who are already
- 4:12:37lost. Brandy will draw for me.
- 4:12:39John surgery like you said they're going to trade savali
- 4:12:41Freddie Peralta's an interesting one because he's been very good.
- 4:12:44He had a Resurgence, really the last four years and like you
- 4:12:48keep that kind of thing for a team.
- 4:12:49That's kind of a fringe Contender but we've also seen
- 4:12:52the mistreat the way they did. What Corbin Burnes like that
- 4:12:54whole arbitration thing was terrible so they just process
- 4:12:58seems unconventional and like you see like they're a good
- 4:13:01franchise it just they're kind of that weird stuck middle
- 4:13:03ground for team that was developing.
- 4:13:05Starting pitching not great before that up until recently.
- 4:13:10Yeah. Java.
- 4:13:10What's it like put ourselves in the shoes of this guy?
- 4:13:15Oh. Five no hit Innings right off
- 4:13:20the bat. What's you feel like right?
- 4:13:23I mean these feeling great at this point.
- 4:13:26Yeah, but it's, it's one of those things where you just
- 4:13:29don't you don't know, we're really what you're getting
- 4:13:32because you look at it and what he's doing it.
- 4:13:38That's not gonna last, we understand it.
- 4:13:40It's kind of the ball teams thing.
- 4:13:42He's gonna be able to do the things that he's doing for as
- 4:13:46long as he is. but, it's strikes, a chord with you guys
- 4:13:52and it literally lets them talk about it and so let it be what
- 4:13:57it is, you know, and If he continues to go, great.
- 4:14:02Do I think it's going to know because that's the game of
- 4:14:06baseball? Throw.
- 4:14:08It's all right. So go back.
- 4:14:11We were going, we're going long tonight.
- 4:14:12We got to pick up the pace right here.
- 4:14:14Fish is not a penny drop. I'm gonna get murdered.
- 4:14:17Probably buy my wife, so we gotta move this along guys.
- 4:14:21Home run leaders. The big dumper Cal Raleigh 326
- 4:14:26homers. Only guy ahead of Judge at 25
- 4:14:28Otis sitting at 23. I look before this year Raleigh
- 4:14:35was a good catcher know. I don't think anyone saw this
- 4:14:37common speedy. What do you know about him?
- 4:14:40Yeah. No, he's been a great power
- 4:14:41hitting catcher for the last four years, really, but I not to
- 4:14:45this extreme where he's on Pace for 50 home, right?
- 4:14:46It's not gonna last now, I mean pay for 64 home runs, right?
- 4:14:50It's not hitting 64. He's not gonna last.
- 4:14:52Oh, catchers, their knees. Get tired.
- 4:14:54They get tired. What's the catcher record?
- 4:14:57Oh, it's 48. What's in my?
- 4:14:59Let's say the Mike Piazza. Well, no, I was one of my
- 4:15:02questions a few weeks ago. It was no, that was a question.
- 4:15:05Yeah. Yeah.
- 4:15:06Salvador Perez has the record 48 and then it Johnny Bench a
- 4:15:10second and then, Javy Lopez. What job I got is the answer to
- 4:15:13the question. He's the one that did the most
- 4:15:14is a full-time catcher that entire season playing over 100
- 4:15:17games at the catcher, which I I'm wondering.
- 4:15:20Yeah, that's funny. And I'm curious to see if
- 4:15:24Seattle Maybe has him DH Morgan. He's okay defensive catcher but
- 4:15:28he's not amazing as a defensive catcher.
- 4:15:30But we wonder if they could rotate, I have a kid coming up
- 4:15:32to another catching Prospect, that's supposed to be really
- 4:15:34good. I'm even gonna predict that
- 4:15:36judge Aaron, judge wins the Triple Crown this year.
- 4:15:38I think he's going oh no he does.
- 4:15:41I I think he's gonna win the Triple Crown this year.
- 4:15:43He's gonna he's gonna have trouble with someone I have on
- 4:15:46this list, who's that Jacob Wilson, who's might be rookie?
- 4:15:50I believe he's gonna be rookie of the year.
- 4:15:52He's hitting 360. This guy doesn't an hour just
- 4:15:56hitting 394, I know but the judge that hit with the powers I
- 4:16:01mean nobody thinks is that sustainable, really the guy
- 4:16:03who's a slap Twitter rise, they set that full weeks ago, me hard
- 4:16:08at that means speed on the weekend Crunch and Speedy told
- 4:16:11me he says, do you think he's gonna hit over 390 in the month
- 4:16:14of May? And I said, absolutely.
- 4:16:16And he's still doing it. And I'm going to tell you it's
- 4:16:19not easier to get a 400 like Luisa, rise in.
- 4:16:23Aaron, judge, hitting for power. I'm telling you, right?
- 4:16:25Not upper-cutting as much, you know, I I would imagine, right.
- 4:16:28You would think, by the way, is defying logic, but by the way,
- 4:16:33Aaron judge right now is hitting 394.
- 4:16:36And he has better, he has better.
- 4:16:38He has a better batting average right now as long as a rise or
- 4:16:42right, when you hear his batting, average was better in
- 4:16:48the year that arise. Okay?
- 4:16:51So, before we get into this, what it like, so arrows.
- 4:16:55Yeah. What, what do you think?
- 4:16:58He's gonna finish it. Like realistic realistically.
- 4:17:02I think he hits over 350. I think he's gonna be three.
- 4:17:05Fifty, three, fifty-eight. That's where I think he's gonna
- 4:17:07be. I think he's gonna have the home
- 4:17:10runs by at least 10. And I, this it's always batting
- 4:17:16average its home runs, and it's RBI.
- 4:17:18RBI annual have it'll have the most RBIs in a week.
- 4:17:21I, I think. Absolutely, I say he gets about
- 4:17:24130 RBIs this year. If he stays healthy, if he goes
- 4:17:28on that range, he's going to win the Triple Crown, and I think it
- 4:17:31could be close. I think he will.
- 4:17:32I think he will be real close. This is something he's never
- 4:17:35done. And if he does this, not only
- 4:17:38does he, he male himself to the whole of Fame and Cooper's down,
- 4:17:42you're gonna start to compare him to the Mickey Mantle's, the
- 4:17:46Babe, Ruth's all those guys. I think John Joe DiMaggio's,
- 4:17:49what he is doing right now in this this five years span.
- 4:17:53I don't think we've seen a Yankee dominate the way he has.
- 4:17:55So that's that's how he At the highest 340.
- 4:18:00Okay, still gonna see, I can trip the whole second half.
- 4:18:06It'd be like him hitting three fifty, three forty-five.
- 4:18:09The rest of the year he is old, is Ops right now is one.
- 4:18:14What is it? One, two zero zero, seven nine.
- 4:18:17I think that's like Godly some ridiculous.
- 4:18:20Number Babe, Ruth, it's better. It's better about.
- 4:18:25If we want to talk about analog, let's talk about at the end of
- 4:18:28the year when it actually mattered.
- 4:18:30And if he does something, when it actually matters, he is
- 4:18:34another great, our regular player ever great.
- 4:18:38What do you do in the postseason?
- 4:18:41And we can say that about Alex Rodriguez too until 2009 and if
- 4:18:45and if and if he does it but he did it right, he did.
- 4:18:49All right, so Aaron judge is still doing things that other
- 4:18:52people said, there's no way he's going to be able to do because
- 4:18:56he's a power hitter and he hits for power.
- 4:18:58Well, guess what? He's not a rise.
- 4:19:01Who's not? A power hitter.
- 4:19:02Who hit what 22 home runs that year 23.
- 4:19:06This guy you're ready. Hit 25 has 26 home runs already
- 4:19:10and we're not even at the All-Star break and he's putting
- 4:19:13yes three ninety four. And he has how many RBIs right
- 4:19:16now, like, like 60 or 50 50? It's like high 50.
- 4:19:20He's got, he's leading the league in runs.
- 4:19:22I think what is it matter though?
- 4:19:24It means a lot. So you're getting when you get a
- 4:19:27Triple Crown job, but did you play with Miguel Cabrera the
- 4:19:29year he wanted? Or that the year before you came
- 4:19:31there? He was.
- 4:19:32Before I played with. 29. 59 and he has 64 runs and yeah, and
- 4:19:41heading 394. I mean, this is one of the
- 4:19:43greatest Seasons we've ever seen.
- 4:19:44A player is a better hitter than Aaron judge.
- 4:19:47Wow, that's that's your opinion. If Aaron judge, hits hits the
- 4:19:51way he said it right now. I mean, I would disagree.
- 4:19:54I'm looking at what he's going to do for the full season and if
- 4:19:57he hits if he gets anywhere, but that's projections.
- 4:20:01That's not an Impulse team. Let me, let me ask you a
- 4:20:03question. Miguel Cabrera as great as he
- 4:20:05was. Did he win in Detroit?
- 4:20:07When he when he yeah. No, he didn't.
- 4:20:10He didn't win in Detroit. But he didn't win at Detroit, he
- 4:20:18got to change and so did Aaron judge and Aaron judge's, you
- 4:20:23know, in Aaron judge has had, how many of you peace and I
- 4:20:27would and bees. They're great.
- 4:20:30Yeah, nobody cares. Well, that's the best, right?
- 4:20:32Best right-handed. Here is still Manny Ramirez and
- 4:20:36like, well, and I'm gonna tell you this right now.
- 4:20:38If he puts up the numbers, I think he's gonna put up this
- 4:20:41year. I think you're going to take
- 4:20:43that. You're gonna take that into
- 4:20:44understanding of what Aaron judge.
- 4:20:47I gotta take it into consideration, 100%.
- 4:20:51I think he's doing right, he's doing something unbelievable.
- 4:20:53Let's switch to defense for a second and get into two of the
- 4:20:57craziest catches. You're going to see from the
- 4:21:00same guy on the Oakland A's, I guess.
- 4:21:03Sacramento is I guess, First off, let me show you the first
- 4:21:08thing. Only thing you can root for.
- 4:21:10By the way Denzel Clarke, all right.
- 4:21:13Full Sprint from the other shaded to the right center gets
- 4:21:17that in left center right into the wall.
- 4:21:20Somehow doesn't knock himself out full speed into the wall and
- 4:21:24if you think that's a great catch and it is a great catch.
- 4:21:28I'll raise you one. Left Center.
- 4:21:31He's got a beat on it. Look how high he goes up over
- 4:21:34the wall. They were saying about five or
- 4:21:38six feet over the wall to get that one.
- 4:21:41Slow motion does a little bit more adjusted.
- 4:21:44Just one of the best catches you're ever going to see, guys.
- 4:21:48I that's gonna be on highlights for very long time.
- 4:21:52You know, he reminds me of Tori Hunter.
- 4:21:56That's what we reminds me. Did you not see Tori?
- 4:22:00Sweet? Yeah, that's what he, I know.
- 4:22:02He said, that's one of the best catches everything we've.
- 4:22:07We've seen the Jim Edmonds cats. We've seen the gmj Gary Matthews
- 4:22:11Jr. Catch and Texas.
- 4:22:15And we've seen three this year that have been great one.
- 4:22:19Being a match and as Speedy is. Brandon Nimmo had one to this
- 4:22:26year. Java, someone you played with,
- 4:22:28made it really insane one in. I think it was either 15 or 16.
- 4:22:32Austin Jackson, when he was following to the Fenway bullpen.
- 4:22:34Yeah, and another one, I played with Rajai Davis when he climbed
- 4:22:40the wall in Toronto that. Yeah, I remember that.
- 4:22:43I also remember when Andrew Jones made some unbelievable
- 4:22:46crafts too, so Andrew Jones should be in the Hall of Fame.
- 4:22:50I think he still might but it's gonna take a little while a
- 4:22:53little bit of time, well, gets his back.
- 4:22:55End of his career was, right? He wasn't great.
- 4:22:58Well, that's of course, that's when he is Adam.
- 4:23:01Now, Jackson job is good to some injuries.
- 4:23:05We talked about this when it happened, they called it a grade
- 4:23:09one flexor strain can how much? But that term and somebody
- 4:23:13talked about that. And that's what it is and job.
- 4:23:18I got to be honest, you I used your advice and I traded him
- 4:23:21away in my Dynasty League knowing that he's probably gonna
- 4:23:24need Tommy John. And I got nice value was able to
- 4:23:27get guys. I wanted pretty interesting
- 4:23:29that's another one Speedy, call Reagan's Rotator and
- 4:23:33inflammation. What is that gonna look the
- 4:23:36Yankees? Just took it to the Royals this
- 4:23:39series. What?
- 4:23:40What is his injury? Especially in a competitive
- 4:23:43Central? Yeah, for a guy, that's a lefty,
- 4:23:46a guy that doesn't have as big of a builds, like it's kind of
- 4:23:48the opposite of what we're talking with Noah syndergaard.
- 4:23:50Like he was too big like Reagan's a lot leaner.
- 4:23:52And you wonder how somebody like that for a lefty would second
- 4:23:56injury in a span of Less than a month close to a month.
- 4:23:59Like it's something that is not. Yeah.
- 4:24:03So something that ideal for a younger pitcher and now a royal
- 4:24:06steam that again we were talking about a few weeks ago.
- 4:24:08They really need their pitching to say healthy.
- 4:24:10Now, they have the cake camera that's on insane, so far, which
- 4:24:13is bail them out so far, but that offense is still not great
- 4:24:17and what that right now. So that's that's helping for
- 4:24:24them. I mean for him a great.
- 4:24:28But, you know, it's special if you haven't pitched that many
- 4:24:31innings, how you know, how is he going to look in the back half
- 4:24:33of the Season compared to right now?
- 4:24:35You never know. I mean we saw Louise heal
- 4:24:38similar situation lights out first half last year kind of
- 4:24:41back to Earth second half, right?
- 4:24:43So that's that's kind of injury. Then the weird one that I saw
- 4:24:48there was Bryce, Miller is getting a PRP injection into his
- 4:24:52elbow cities which, which is just like that thing called he
- 4:24:57had in his My son had that my rear end is burning Java.
- 4:25:01Like what is that supposed to do?
- 4:25:03So basically it's like a placement procedures.
- 4:25:07So basically they take everything out and then put it
- 4:25:10back in. and it just sees and in it's been great for my son.
- 4:25:17I never experienced that. So I don't know ball bag.
- 4:25:21I I know it was it was it was started early in a lot of
- 4:25:27athletes, I hope not. This time.
- 4:25:30Is it for a tear or is it for like, severe inflammation,
- 4:25:34Speedy. It's it's a repair.
- 4:25:36What you have? If there's scar tissue and if
- 4:25:40there's those other things, I'll let you lick my butt because if
- 4:25:43it's a tear, they're gonna do it.
- 4:25:46You know I'm saying, So it's a tears, they're going to do, I'll
- 4:25:50let you be able to try and figure it out.
- 4:25:55I gave up the booty there. and I just, I I never went through it,
- 4:26:01so I don't know. This makes my pet owner, I
- 4:26:04don't, I don't know that answer. But you just made my nipples.
- 4:26:08Are here. He is working for a lot of
- 4:26:10people. Hello.
- 4:26:13It works for him, man. Yeah, I do.
- 4:26:15I do too Blood Out. So here's the one I wanted to
- 4:26:19bring up to Errol. Guess what?
- 4:26:20Spread Carlos Stanton mashing in rehab.
- 4:26:26Coming back real soon. They're talking about putting
- 4:26:29Ben rice over to catch her some so that they can get him some at
- 4:26:33bats. Keep his Bat in the lineup,
- 4:26:35while Stanton obviously will DH primarily, it seems like Aaron
- 4:26:41judge might have even more protection in the lineup.
- 4:26:43Real soon. Arrow, I think it's great job,
- 4:26:46Carla standing. I think you get him healthy for
- 4:26:48the playoffs. I don't think they'll worry
- 4:26:50about them. You right now all there though,
- 4:26:52I'll give I'll give I'll give you this credit and it's like,
- 4:26:55you didn't want to do anything and it's like, we want John
- 4:26:59Carlos in the playoffs and let him wait as long as possible.
- 4:27:04You did say that you did say that.
- 4:27:06And I think it's a good idea. And I think that's what I think
- 4:27:09you're 100%, right? I do because why Russia back?
- 4:27:14Because now leading the vision doing what you're doing with the
- 4:27:19guys that are doing what they're doing.
- 4:27:20Let's see what happens with jazz and obviously being out two days
- 4:27:25in a row. And leaving the game early.
- 4:27:28I think you're 100% right when it comes to it's like let him
- 4:27:32just be him. And get him back because we've
- 4:27:37seen postseason thin, right? And so I think, I think you were
- 4:27:42100% right on that. I think there's no need to rush
- 4:27:45back. There's no need.
- 4:27:46I think that the Yankees just need to sit and and wait, if if
- 4:27:51anything wait until the All-Star break, then let him come in.
- 4:27:54Don't rush him back. And honestly if he does come
- 4:27:57back and when he does come back, play him every other day, make
- 4:28:01sure that he's 100% healthy for the playoffs.
- 4:28:03Don't rush him where he gets hurt again.
- 4:28:06He's got a significant amount. You gotta give guys still got to
- 4:28:10give guys that helped you at that point.
- 4:28:13If he's gonna get, he has a chance.
- 4:28:15Even if he plays every other day, he's going to get it.
- 4:28:18At least 200 and some, I have bats.
- 4:28:20I think that's what you should do.
- 4:28:22I I really do. I think that's what the Yankees
- 4:28:24should do. He'll get a hunter and look at a
- 4:28:28buck 20. Buck 20 bucks, 40.
- 4:28:32I the problem with the problem, what worries me is Aaron Boone,
- 4:28:36when these guys come back, he wears them down and I don't want
- 4:28:38to see that happen. I want the Yankees to really
- 4:28:41contribute this three. so, this goody well, Goody.
- 4:28:49We got one other guy left here that I haven't mentioned Jordan,
- 4:28:52Westberg made his return to the Orioles line of the Orioles,
- 4:28:56obviously not having the season they wanted inspected Westbury
- 4:28:59to be a big part of it. He came back.
- 4:29:02Hidden bombs. What is he, what is it him?
- 4:29:05And some of those other younger guys that have been banged up
- 4:29:08kind of going through their first full seasons, you know
- 4:29:11together as this young team? What is what is a guy like that
- 4:29:14coming back for Squad? Like that man?
- 4:29:18Asking me. Yep.
- 4:29:21I mean, they're going to their first full seasons are, you
- 4:29:23know, there's gonna be a lot of ups and downs trials and
- 4:29:26tribulations and I got good thing is they're going through
- 4:29:29it together so they can they're gonna struggle together.
- 4:29:32But when they catch fire, they're going to catch fire
- 4:29:34together. They're young guys so you know
- 4:29:35that they're hungry. They have a lot to prove in this
- 4:29:37game. And so for him, the come back
- 4:29:40and play the way he played recently.
- 4:29:45I mean, to me, if I'm managing if I'm Manziel, I'm thrilled I'm
- 4:29:51ecstatic because I know I got a guy who's well we like to refer
- 4:29:54to as a grinder he's a grind out of bats and right now he's
- 4:29:58playing great. So you know the season isn't
- 4:30:01turning out quite the way they wanted it to but there's been
- 4:30:04some bright spots in it and you know he happens to be one of
- 4:30:08them know I Yuri, I agree to. when you get a When you get
- 4:30:15young energy and that brings it in to a clubhouse, it's
- 4:30:20completely different because we're just idiots, we don't
- 4:30:23know. And we do it and see what in.
- 4:30:28They got some young guys and I love adley retro but he's still
- 4:30:32young. Yeah, and you have that energy
- 4:30:36and I think that really brings that to them and then you bring
- 4:30:40even some younger stuff and it's like, all right, well, here we
- 4:30:43go, right? And I think think that's
- 4:30:47something that. because, I honestly, As on this show.
- 4:30:55I'm like, orals were what I thought was going to be
- 4:30:58something. And they've turned into nothing.
- 4:31:04But now we picked them. I think I had them second and
- 4:31:07Ali's because I just figured the young energy that they had when
- 4:31:11they were coming, you know, they're coming up together.
- 4:31:14They're still learning the league, just they're still
- 4:31:16learning how to be major league baseball players and so like I
- 4:31:19was like you know they could screw around and and be really
- 4:31:23good this year. And right now they're just
- 4:31:26hitting a valley and it's just part of being a major league
- 4:31:30baseball player. Like you the thing is, you just
- 4:31:32have to learn how to handle the adversity.
- 4:31:35I learn how to land handle the suck and then once you, once you
- 4:31:40learn how to do that and if they're doing it at a young age
- 4:31:42as they become older and they stick around in the league a
- 4:31:45little bit longer, they can reflect on this time where
- 4:31:47they're just shooting the bed and Be, you know, everything's
- 4:31:52good. We did that in 25.
- 4:31:59It's a good. I mean, yeah.
- 4:32:01Oriole fans have a lot to be excited about.
- 4:32:03It's not going the way they want it now, but they have a lot to
- 4:32:05be excited about the team is gonna be good.
- 4:32:07All right, guys, we're running a little late, so we're gonna call
- 4:32:11it right there. A lot of great stuff, we just
- 4:32:13went over inside. Thank you so much, I appreciate
- 4:32:16it. Thank you so much.
- 4:32:18Arrow. You got one thing left to do.
- 4:32:20Yes, we do ladies and gentlemen and we call this segment
- 4:32:24analytics, ladies and gentlemen. And now it's analytics.
- 4:32:31I want everybody together to go ahead and say penis, penis,
- 4:32:35penis, a giant of a giant of vagina.
- 4:32:37I see goody laughing, he's giggling over there, he wants to
- 4:32:41open up a smiley. He probably is like how about
- 4:32:43rattling her? Yeah, blood out of this.
- 4:32:45We're gonna we're gonna try to have a good Pace tonight and
- 4:32:48everyone's favorite game analytics.
- 4:32:50A quality education. My rear end is here the first
- 4:32:56time breaking news this game where is no history terms and
- 4:33:01arrow has to solve it and Speedy has to solve it faster than each
- 4:33:05other. They get three Clues, they get a
- 4:33:07wild guess whoever, guesses in fastest gets it right?
- 4:33:10And wins the game. But they have to use in a
- 4:33:13sentence correctly. The sentence acts as a
- 4:33:15tiebreaker. There's a catch.
- 4:33:18Speedy is our resident, sports analyst, analytical Guru.
- 4:33:23He will give Errol a sports on a little terminals, more of an eye
- 4:33:27test traditionalist sports fan. He's, he goes by his gut.
- 4:33:31He trusts it hits, but it's taken him this far.
- 4:33:33He doesn't know some of these terms, he's going to get those
- 4:33:36Clues. On the other hand, you can't
- 4:33:38give Speedy those terms, so we will give Speedy some sexual.
- 4:33:43My rear end is burning. Knittens are more direct.
- 4:33:47So a little bit, I need a blow-up.
- 4:33:51We will get the music going pass right now Speedy for the big
- 4:33:57reveal of your fish is not a panty dropper.
- 4:34:00Of the night. All right, so it is baseball
- 4:34:03again this week we got w r a, a W r a a Harold.
- 4:34:11W. R a a Runs.
- 4:34:18Yeah, runs is Right w. r, a a Analysis.
- 4:34:27Okay. All right.
- 4:34:31Incorrect, moving on to the big reveal of the analytical term of
- 4:34:37the evening. All right.
- 4:34:40Queef. While guests Speedy?
- 4:34:51Yeah, that's gonna be wild, all right. ah, some term for Anal.
- 4:35:05Sex with the same gender, I don't know.
- 4:35:10Scoop sits on the shiter. So, we now move on to our first
- 4:35:20Clues speedy. Wraaa, give Errol his clue.
- 4:35:24All right, so the W is a common term for something that you use
- 4:35:29in a workout mainly with muscular things and then AA.
- 4:35:35So if you're ranking something or judging a meter, The Middle.
- 4:35:39Look the middle. So something slightly higher
- 4:35:43than the middle. You could consider a so you said
- 4:35:50working out. So yes, something you use when
- 4:35:52you were wait. So yeah, that's something close
- 4:35:55to that. Give it to him waited waited.
- 4:35:59Yes. Okay.
- 4:36:01And then aided runs. So it was what you have so far.
- 4:36:04You need the two A's All right, let's move on back to Speedy.
- 4:36:13Carol. Give him his first clue.
- 4:36:19It smells. Pretty much everything in the
- 4:36:23human body, okay? All right, and I'm assuming it
- 4:36:34comes out of you know, the ass or vagina.
- 4:36:39Some kind of substance. All right, I'll say this.
- 4:36:47None of us had to look this one up tonight.
- 4:36:52I'm sure you're honored. No, no I'm telling you what is
- 4:36:56it? That common get that.
- 4:36:58Yes, okay, it's blow my back out.
- 4:37:02Now, I don't do it with the back.
- 4:37:04Okay. Let's say it's A.
- 4:37:13A solid. Plum. of like, Vagina, gross
- 4:37:22crap. I don't know, but it's a solid
- 4:37:25chunk. It's solid show.
- 4:37:27Not liquid, on on solid Chunk. We are giving you the wrong
- 4:37:32answer buzzer. All right, I vivid imagination
- 4:37:37as always. Let's get the second clue for WR
- 4:37:41a All right. The first a opposite of below.
- 4:37:47And second, a Again, another term for somewhere, right?
- 4:37:53In the middle. If you're judging like zero to
- 4:37:56100 right in the middle. The blank is 50.
- 4:38:01So what was the other one? That's that's actually not
- 4:38:04correct. Mathematically speaking.
- 4:38:06What was the other one? It's not the first thing.
- 4:38:08So opposite of below above. Yeah.
- 4:38:13And then just Like, all right fight fishes.
- 4:38:17Not all right, fish was gonna give the mathematical terms.
- 4:38:20So, The blank of five and five. I don't add his correct.
- 4:38:30I don't. All right, so did you get one of
- 4:38:35them on this? You got above.
- 4:38:36Yes. My rear end is really you have
- 4:38:38one letter left to decipher Errol.
- 4:38:40You're really close. We are now moving into the next
- 4:38:45clue. For Mr. Speedy peedy It makes a
- 4:38:50sound. It makes the sound.
- 4:38:55It smells and it makes a sound. Okay.
- 4:39:02It makes a sound. So some probably something
- 4:39:06similar to a fart but probably more intimate.
- 4:39:10Okay, so let's say go for it speedy.
- 4:39:14Queef. Is.
- 4:39:19A woman farting, okay? In the faces of.
- 4:39:25Three guys. My car, I like anal.
- 4:39:37You wouldn't mind a free hot ladies fart in your face.
- 4:39:46A quality educational experience with an asterisk, except for all
- 4:39:49except for all driving. You're crazy.
- 4:39:53Well, you know, speedy. Your remarkably close.
- 4:39:58Very close. You can off the rails to see at
- 4:40:02the end. But I would say you got more
- 4:40:05than half of it, so you're actually write their neck and
- 4:40:08neck with Errol. Errol only has one letter left
- 4:40:10to go, give him his last clue for wraaa.
- 4:40:14So when you're described this describe a player, you could say
- 4:40:16this player is mediocre or just decent another term for that.
- 4:40:24Is that and you could say another another clue, I could
- 4:40:28give to law of they say, blank average.
- 4:40:33There it is. So put it all together.
- 4:40:37Weighted runs. Was the other above that?
- 4:40:45All right, so you got the term right now is the tiebreaker.
- 4:40:50He got to use it correctly in a sentence go ahead and use a
- 4:40:55speedy gets another chance. Yeah.
- 4:40:57No. Yes Speedy has a chance because
- 4:40:58this is the tie breaker. Yeah, everyone sentences isn't
- 4:41:02good. Speedy still has a chance to win
- 4:41:04or sentence. Errol use Aaron judge, talking
- 4:41:07about wraa, Aaron judge is above the League's best right now in
- 4:41:16the major leagues. Above in.
- 4:41:22I'm sorry. In Waiting W.
- 4:41:24Oh yes, in w. Yes, exactly.
- 4:41:27That's where I would go. That is a pretty good sentence.
- 4:41:33That is true. This is speedy explained the
- 4:41:36term a little bit. Yeah.
- 4:41:36So it's a combination of factors for an offensive player,
- 4:41:39basically deals with how much runs you create as an offensive
- 4:41:42player, whether it comes from scoring the runs, whether it
- 4:41:45comes from driving in runs with RBI, It's a combination of
- 4:41:48everything stealing bases. Obviously, that will drive it
- 4:41:50up. So, somebody like a cunha in his
- 4:41:53MVP year, it's going to hire in that statistic I think Shoei
- 4:41:56Otani when he wanted his angels, led the league in it.
- 4:41:59I farted here that I think the year you thought Vlad should
- 4:42:03have won the MVP and ohtani beat him to it.
- 4:42:06He let in that category. So it's how much runs you create
- 4:42:09for yourself. Just with combination bass
- 4:42:15running. I got walks.
- 4:42:16All right. You ready speeding?
- 4:42:17All right. so, just so, you know, Aaron judge currently has
- 4:42:22a 49.4 A w r which is by far the best in League.
- 4:42:28Yeah. Pretty, pretty great.
- 4:42:30All right. So Speedy you basically need to
- 4:42:33be perfect and be more descriptive than Arrow was in a
- 4:42:37sentence. But Arrow sentence was like an
- 4:42:38a, you can do this Speedy last clue for Speedy peedy so it
- 4:42:44smells it makes sound and Men. When they drive it.
- 4:42:53And they pull it out. It makes the sound.
- 4:42:58I will go with. You pull your pants down.
- 4:43:04Oh, Mark far. And then pull the penis out.
- 4:43:14Oh man, speedy. You're closer at the second one.
- 4:43:21The third person should have been women.
- 4:43:23Can do it all day. Why gave him the answer to it?
- 4:43:27I mean, just think about it. Arrow marks you are tonight's
- 4:43:33winner of analytics. Congratulations Speedy.
- 4:43:36You know what? You know what we Fest know it's
- 4:43:38really not, it's a pussy fart. What it is.
- 4:43:42Just so, you know. Quality educational experience
- 4:43:48held once again here on job in the mouth, this has been
- 4:43:51Analytics. Java.
- 4:43:55Just said he had a father talking to him.
- 4:43:57So Oh, what is that? Oh, is that the life?
- 4:44:01The, it's almost five hours. All right, I need to call it.
- 4:44:05Alright guys, it was a great show.
- 4:44:07Thank you to job at the world series.
- 4:44:09The College World Series. Thank you to goody for joining
- 4:44:12us. Congratulations to go on another
- 4:44:14win. So congratulations to him and
- 4:44:17extra OT. Thank you to all the fans on
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- 4:44:22He was fantastic. Dope in Anderson.
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- 4:44:43All of you guys. I will not be here on Monday and
- 4:44:47Thursday next week. I'll be on vacation so you will
- 4:44:49have Java you all fish right, helping out and helping run the
- 4:44:53show, you'll have Tommy off, Speedy of Nick.
- 4:44:55You have all the whole crew and even our interns but you will
- 4:44:59not have me. So I might sneak in maybe if I
- 4:45:02have if I can on the boat I'll see you know we don't want you.
- 4:45:07You're on the boat go and joy you stupid ass, I mean, you can
- 4:45:11pay 30 dollars for five minutes of Wi-Fi to call in, I guess
- 4:45:14not. Actually we have free Wi-Fi.
- 4:45:16I paid for it. Go I paid for already.
- 4:45:18So anyways, that's it. Good night.
- 4:45:20Farewell, who do we have on next week?
- 4:45:24Okay. All right, that's it tonight.
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