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Hail Satan and Halitosis: The Richard Ramirez Experience · Hocus Pocus Lack Of Focus

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  Ball jiggle, Hocus pocus, Lack of focus.
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  The very uneducational podcast that zigzags its way through
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  weird conversations like a pair of puppets in the 90s.
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  Look it up. We talk about topics like
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  Epstein. Never heard of him.
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  We used to hang out on his island.
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  Wonder why he's doing now. It's Danny Thomas.
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  Hey, hey, hey, forget about it. Yeah, I've decided every every
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  episode intro now I'm just I'm just a mob lower mob guy.
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  Well, that's it. That's today's 1.
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  I don't know. I'm not even going to say what
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  episode this is because who knows what way these come out.
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  We'll just tell you really quick, we have record.
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  So we were four weeks ahead of herself and we lost 2 and 3.
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  So 4 is now 2 and this would be 5, but it's now three unless I.
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  Can even hearing you say that, it's upsetting me the amount of
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  talking I've done. I know.
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  Six hours of talking and. Me and my 7 minutes of I think
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  you should leave quotes like just just gone just for nothing,
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  yeah. So what are we doing today,
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  Danny? Richard Ramirez, Big Richie Rich
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  is what we're talking The Night Stalker.
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  Yeah, so we are jumping into some true crime this week
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  because the last episode was Aleister Crowley and it was all
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  kinds of weird sex magic and satanic worship and all kinds of
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  weird stuff and. Calm and anal kind of talk,
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  yeah. Well, there we go.
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  Any chance of being monetized? You have a ruined it now,
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  although I didn't mention Jeffrey Epstein and first, yeah.
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  You already did, yeah. Yeah.
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  So, yeah, but yeah, now we're going to go on to something a
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  little bit more. We should probably put a
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  disclaimer on this one because as we should have put a
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  disclaimer on last week's one, but this one is rough as a
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  bear's arse it's going to be. Pretty bad.
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  Yeah, because this, this Ramirez character, this, this Ramirez
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  chap, not the most wholesome fellow in the world.
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  Absolutely. Oh, you'd slap the wrists off
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  him. Oh, Jizzy was no good.
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  So he wasn't. He was never any good, this lad.
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  I'm going to start, I'll give you a few little just bio facts
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  and stuff about him and I'm sure you've done much more extensive
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  research than I've. Just filled my ears with the
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  horrible, disgusting acts of this man for the last two days.
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  And I probably won't. I can't.
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  I can't remember anyone's name. I can't remember a date.
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  I can't remember a detail. I just when when you start
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  spilling off stuff, I'd be like, Oh yeah, dirty who are?
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  Right, Ricardo Leyva, Munwa Ramirez.
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  I think it's Muna. Is that how you say that?
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  Munoz is it or? Munoz.
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  Munoz, Yeah. I don't know, I don't know.
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  Again, you're asking the wrong lad.
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  He nicknamed the Night Stalker. He was born on February 29th,
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  1960 in El Paso, TX. Making him a Pisces, which is
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  very, very interesting when it comes to murderers because
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  Pisces are very emotional and kind and sensitive.
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  I didn't think. You were going to rattle the
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  star sign off straight away. That's.
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  Great too, I know it. And he died June 7th, 2013 in
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  San Quentin. Spoiler.
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  He was executed. Yeah, sorry.
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  Was he executed? Yeah.
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  I thought he died before he got a chance to get executed, I
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  thought. I thought that was the but I
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  heard the two. I heard the two different.
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  He asked for the gas chamber and I heard two different.
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  Things. Oh, wait, no, sorry, lymphoma.
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  Yeah, there we go. Death.
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  Row. Yeah, you're right.
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  Sorry about that. I was thinking of someone else
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  active years killing 1984 to 1985 S.
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  Over a year he murdered 13 people that we know of.
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  Five attempted murders, 11 sexual assaults, 14 burglaries.
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  Though actual numbers may be a lot higher, these are just the
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  ones that he was charged and ultimately sentenced for.
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  He racked up serious numbers in just like a year.
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  Yeah, yeah, like he, he was a fucking psycho.
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  Like actual fucking demon. Raised in a strict Catholic
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  household, youngest of five, just like myself.
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  Father was abusive, violent, experts were normal in the home.
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  He began using pot, LSD, and had multiple head injuries from a
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  young age. He got that a Benoit swag.
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  This is what fascinated me like as I got absolutely dragged into
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  this like the early years kind of a thing because his father
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  wasn't wasn't he was a stern man, but he wasn't an abusive
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  fighter until the brothers kind of started acting out.
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  But the, it's like, uh, one of the deep dives, uh, that I was,
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  uh, listening to kind of went into like 40 minutes talking
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  about the parents before any of them were even born.
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  So it was kind of fascinating to hear his father.
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  He wanted to have the mentality that he wasn't going to beat his
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  kids. That was his whole thing.
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  I'm not going to beat my kids. But when he moved in with, uh,
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  he fell in love with, I think Mercedes was the one I remember
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  American. Her name was like that's a
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  German sounding name for a a Hispanic lady.
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  With him it's it kind of still stays in our family because his
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  older cousin got him into a lot of their shit.
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  Getting into this fucking Miguel character, He's he's a, he's a
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  wrong. Awful.
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  Like, I want to just describe this kind of this kind of
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  snowballing of events that brings Ricardo into this world.
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  Right? Yeah.
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  Modern fighter move in. But they're in a place that is
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  actually in a fallout zone of nuclear testing.
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  Like, this was the start of the Cold War, and these guys were
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  like, we better test out these nukes.
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  So they were dropping nukes and they were in like a fallout
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  zone, and all these people were getting affected by it.
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  So she had the first two boys fairly fast.
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  I forget the names of the the two older brothers, but the
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  eldest and the second oldest brother were born while they
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  were living in this fucking nuclear fallout.
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  So like, her womb was fucking radioactive when these boys came
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  out and. Makes sense the.
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  Eldest brother. Now I don't want to sound
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  politically incorrect, but for want of a better term like he
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  seemed to be a big stupid fucking retarded spark hunt and.
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  We need to have a retard count. Oh yeah, look.
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  It's so he, he kind of came out and he was the, the first one
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  kind of, he had learning difficulties.
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  Uh, wasn't, wasn't the brightest of the bunch.
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  Second guy came out with like bonitis.
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  He his bones, his bones bent. My one regret was having bone.
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  Itis what he Yeah. That's a sheep answer.
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  You're a shark. And he has a few drama quarter
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  sight. He came out with like bendy
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  bones. His bones are like curled.
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  So they were like, OK, we're going to move out of this place.
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  And they moved. I forget where it was that day.
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  You. Can hear that I'm pouring wine
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  I'm. Sorry.
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  No, that's that's no problem. Danny.
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  I wouldn't have expected you to not be pouring wine at this
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  stage while I'm walking. Sounds like I'm peeing, that's
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  why. Sorry.
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  In a jar, but basically ice of the day came along.
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  I'm more like you're not legal to the father or she was.
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  She was born in the States and so were the kids.
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  He was, he was found to be working in some hardware or
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  whatever it was that they do and they have that's that's and.
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  Home Depot standing outside of Home Depot.
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  That's no he was, he was definitely working.
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  Say what you meant to say, but. He did deported the whole
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  family. So they headed back down to this
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  place in uh, Mexico. So she ended up having to get a
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  job. She got a job in this boot
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  making factory this, these famous Mexican, uh, cowboy
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  boots. Turns out that that place was
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  fucking worse than the nuclear fallout zone.
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  This place had like all kinds of chemicals, no ventilation.
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  So now like she's all day, she's feeling fucking nauseous because
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  of these chemicals that they're using.
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  Gets pregnant with the third son.
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  He turns out to be a bit of a wronging as well.
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  And their daughter Ruth. Ruth seems kind of not in
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  special, but she seems like a good person, like a decent soul.
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  And then out pops. I've never met a mean Ruth.
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  Yeah. Have you?
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  I've I've never met a Hispanic. That's.
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  That's again, that's all the other names are very Hispanic,
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  but like she's she's Ruth and kind of strange, but yeah, true.
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  It's got a good like root, a good kind of old lady to give
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  you a word as original kind of a name.
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  Yeah. Then Ricky came out in the end.
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  So now imagine like the the motors womb filled with
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  radioactivity and fucking chemicals from a boot.
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  Factory boot. Chemicals.
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  She like there is there is room for improvement in this woman's
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  uterus like she is she is spitting out wrongens.
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  So I suppose like Root and the second eldest, I was going to
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  say didn't have bad, a bad bone in her body, but he had lots of
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  bad bones in his body because he had borneitis and she.
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  Curly. Whirly.
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  Yeah, he had curly Whirly bones. That's a fucking fantastic
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  description of the bones. Yeah. 4/4 kids came out and then
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  little Ricky came out and he kind of came out seemingly OK
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  like he was He didn't show any kind of signs of.
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  He was a good kid up until about 12, yeah.
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  So when he was three years of age and the family were off
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  working, he was left to a babysitter and he climbed onto a
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  wardrobe or a dresser or an armoire or whatever way you want
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  to go down this road. I don't know where you're from,
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  but it's a fucking wardrobe where I'm from.
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  We do have listeners all over, actually, by the way.
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  Well, you know what? Yeah, Hibernian dictionary so
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  you can understand what words I'm saying.
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  If you don't know who zig and zag are by now, you fucking just
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  Google it. Pause this podcast, ask Chachi
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  BT anything that you're not sure.
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  If we if we have 5 listeners, I'd be surprised if any one of
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  them are from anywhere outside of my family.
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  He, he's climbing up on this wardrobe and the whole thing
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  comes down on top of him. He splits his head open, ends up
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  getting fucking rushed to hospital.
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  Major fucking brain trauma at that stage.
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  Now again, he's after coming from some toxic fucking womb
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  filled with chemicals and toxic waste and now he's got massive
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  head trauma. When he's about 7:00 or 8:00 I
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  think something else happens. He gets hit in the head with a
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  swing. This gives them kind of
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  epilepsy. So he starts getting fits.
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  He's he's getting there. What did the what did the
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  Scottish dwarf, Scottish epileptic dwarf get for
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  Christmas? A wee fit.
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  And that's, that's an old one, I guess he he gets kind of.
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  You're older than me. Kind of gets a bit of epilepsy
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  and just a just a touch of epilepsy gets a gets a lick of
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  epilepsy, gets a gets a little, you know.
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  Sure, if he was a horse he'd be fucking shot years ago like.
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  He's fucking riddled with everything he doesn't get.
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  He doesn't get a lot of epilepsy, just enough to fit,
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  but he he, it's Jesus Christ. No, this is the this is the
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  thing. I I was like saying this the
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  other day. So I saw this like video on
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  TikTok and this woman was doing like a gender reveal with her
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  husband and it was going to be a boy.
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  And she freaks out, has a tantrum and runs away.
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  And I'm like, This is why I could I would just be like, I
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  don't want this anymore. I wanted a girl.
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  Can you get rid of it? Like that's how freely I would
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  get rid of kids. So if you, if you will,
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  literally if I had popped out a few of them that were like
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  already psychotic and have bendy bones, I'd be like, maybe I
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  won't have another one. Yeah, I just where was that
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  mindset back? Very Catholic though, you know
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  what I mean? Like we, we know what the story
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  is like. You're going to, yes.
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  Yeah, like Spanish as well. Keep spitting out kids until you
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  until you have a good one. Yeah, we can go down to like a,
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  you know, nature or nurture on this one.
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  What was it the fact that like it happened in utero?
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  Was it the head trauma? Was it the influence, and we'll
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  get into that now, the influence that his family had on him.
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  I will, I have a whole thing on that.
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  But yeah, wonderful, because like, he comes across this cast
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  of characters that kind of just teach him, yeah, different ways
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  to be an absolute monster in. Life and I don't understand it
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  because it's like I, I don't think I've ever met a single
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  person that would ever have shown me or told me or you know
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  any of these kind of things in my life and it's ridiculous that
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  he has so fucking many of them like just.
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  Oh, many. It's, it's like they were, it's
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  like they were setting them up to be the fucking monster that
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  he is, like. Yeah, and that's a whole big
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  thing about. So he was a hardcore Satanist as
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  well, and we'll get into that later on.
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  But like, you kind of have to look at the amount of fucking
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  things that were just put in his path that he had no other way of
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  turning out, did he? Do you know what I mean?
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  Like he really didn't like just. His life was so fucking dark.
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  No, like you have to be like no matter what, you have to be a
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  good person no matter what your face or has to be like, you have
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  to be a good person. That's your test in life.
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  Like your your test with this guy.
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  Just the sheer volume of absolute bastards and absolute
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  like weird circumstances that unfold to make him the monster
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  that he is is just it's mind boggling.
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  That's why it's so that's why I was like, let's definitely do
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  this episode on on the night soccer because the story even to
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  get like it's a horrific story what he does in that year where
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  he goes crazy, but the story leading up to it is life leading
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  up to it is fucking mental. Yeah, and that's again, that's
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  the thing, like you normally hear like, so serial killers and
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  stuff like it's normally something to do with the
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  parents. Usually when it comes to male
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  serial killers, it's usually mommy didn't love me or mommy
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  loved me too much, or they're abused or they're like, beaten
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  to bits by their dad. And that's why they, you know,
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  they hate women because they've seen their dad beat their mom
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  the whole life and it's all they know kind of thing.
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  This wasn't anything like that, but this was just a bunch of
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  horrible, sick people that like to do horrible, sick things that
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  showed this kid with brain injuries how much fun these
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  horrible and sick things are to do.
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  Yeah, basically. And it's, it's just ridiculous.
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  So like the worst off. We'll start with his cousin
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  Mike. So Mike was a Vietnam War vet.
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  Richard was 12 when he exposed him to graphic Polaroids of the
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  women that he had raped and murdered while in Nam,
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  Techniques for killing people and torturing people.
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  Richard actually witnessed Mike shoot his wife in the face
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  during a domestic fight. And after that, Richard's
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  worldview just became twisted. Violence, sex and power were all
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  just interconnected. And this is all at 12 years old,
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  so. Because he was already subjected
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  like he was, he was smoking weed by 9.
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  And obviously like he his influence from his older
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  brothers, they were showing him, you know, Nudie magazines, this
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  kind of stuff that is like Nudie magazines.
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  Who? Who?
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  My album? Skin Mags.
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  But like he was desensitized early.
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  So like when when you're seeing that kind of stuff early again,
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  like a picture. I've happened to me before I
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  opened my auntie's and summer's bag of tricks.
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  I was young with my brother fucking.
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  I have a whole I have a whole chocolate Willy dilemma with
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  with that one. It's a it's a whole story and it
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  turns out when gay for chocolate, like you can get
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  exposed that thing. So and I don't think it will
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  fuck you up. Like I think maybe my generation
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  did get a little bit fucked up because of the the Internet and
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  like how much more graphic stuff you can get absolutely.
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  But being exposed. So he he was by the by the time
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  he was 12, he was already like a huffing glue as well.
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  And the influence from his his older brothers where they were
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  like anything we, we want, we just steal to get it.
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  So he was already kind of at this stage morally corrupt, are
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  being morally corrupted by his brothers.
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  So like his eldest brother and then the middle brother, the
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  middle child. So they were already going
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  around in gangs where they were stealing whatever they wanted.
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  They were actually robbing cars. They were getting in trouble,
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  and when Miguel came on the scene or Mike, he came on the
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  scene, Ricardo was already kind of beginning to get corrupted.
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  So he was already kind of desensitized to some of this
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  stuff. But when he he came across, he
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  was a decorated war hero as well.
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  This my character, yeah. Everybody kind of thought he was
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  this great guy because he came back with medals of honor and
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  because he of the great things that he's on in Vietnam, But the
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  the truth was he was over there and he himself was a fucking
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  monster who was, you know, just, eh, torturing and.
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  Raping and killing. Women he yeah, he beheaded at
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  least one of his victims because one of the Polaroids is a
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  picture of him holding up the severed head of one of his
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  victims and he was awesome about it.
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  But the thing that would kind of list this, this kind of lit a
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  fire inside of Ricardo where he became aroused by these pictures
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  and he noticed that this was the problem.
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  So he was, he started, he started associating violence,
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  death and kind of mutilation, torture and all this kind of
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  stuff with sexual arousal at the age of like 11:00 and 12:00,
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  which is fucked up. Yeah.
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  And as you said, just there, he actually witnessed Mike murder
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  his his wife. So Mike, just when he came back,
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  he was obviously suffering from PTSD big time from the horrors
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  he saw in in war. Oh, yeah.
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  And he had no interest in work. He just didn't want to work.
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  But he was being nagged by his wife.
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  Did you get a job? Did you get a fucking job?
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  She seemed like, you know, a boss ass bitch, but you can only
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  be a boss ass bitch for so long. What a fucking mental case would
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  have gone. Oh, yeah.
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  So he had to go in the fridge one day.
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  Turned around and just shot her point blank in the face.
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  Just boom in front of his two kids and Ricky, who is again.
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  He's only 12 years of age. 12 at the.
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  Time turns around to Ricky says you didn't see anything, go
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  home, don't tell anybody anything, which he doesn't tell
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  anybody. He goes home.
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  He doesn't tell anyone anything. Ricky's father gets a phone call
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  off of Mike's mother, says he's in trouble, he's after getting
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  arrested by the cops, you need to go down and clean up his
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  apartment, all that kind of stuff.
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  Ricky straight away says, can I come?
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  I want to go. And then he even talked about it
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  later about how he went and he saw the blood and he was aroused
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  by the blood of his his uncle's wife's blood all over the ground
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  after seeing her being murdered. So we can already see he is
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  definitely growing into this kind of psychopathy and this
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  absolute fucking monster that he's going to become.
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  It's, it's a, it's a weird thing as well because now obviously,
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  like I research this stuff a lot for fun.
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  Like it's what I do in my free time to relax the mirrors is
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  just is one of those figures where it's really, really
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  disturbing. It's really, really hard to
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  listen to because what's the motive did?
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  There's no like, again, like obviously had a fucked up
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  childhood and stuff, but the sadistic, horrible things, the
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  lengths that he goes to to inflict pain and just suffering
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  on people is completely unmatched.
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  You look at the likes of Dahmer, which we will cover at some
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  point. Yeah, who was very much just
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  like, no, you're knocked out, then I'm going to sever your
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  limbs and then, you know. Then I'm going to numb numb
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  numb. Numb numb numb numb numb him and
• 21:43
  Urban but like and then even Ed game.
• 21:45
  Well, he had a type. He did.
• 21:47
  He did Hispanic men, he loved his his beefy Hispanic men.
• 21:52
  And then you got even the likes of Ed Gein, which have you seen
• 21:55
  the trailer for the new Ed Gein? There's a new one coming.
• 21:58
  Series. So so yeah.
• 22:01
  So, you know, did you watch the Dahmer show that Evan Evan
• 22:04
  Peters did? Yes, yeah, yeah.
• 22:06
  Monster, isn't it? And then, yeah.
• 22:08
  And then they did. The Menendez brothers.
• 22:11
  Menendez Yeah, yeah, yeah. And now they're doing Ed Gein.
• 22:13
  But Charlie Hunnam, who's Jackson some of Anarchy, he's
• 22:16
  playing Ed Gein. And I'm like, please don't,
• 22:18
  because I'm not ready to want to fuck Ed Gein.
• 22:20
  Yeah, no, he yeah, that's like. I can't Yeah.
• 22:24
  And he's but I'd gain like if you look back, he like wasn't a
• 22:27
  bad looking dude, but he was just like, obviously not Charlie
• 22:30
  Hunnam from Sons of Anarchy. But it looks really good.
• 22:34
  Anyway, I digress. It's going to be I think it's
• 22:36
  going to be great. But early 1980s.
• 22:39
  So Ramirez was in his early 20s when he started basically
• 22:44
  fucking with Satanism. He was obsessed with other
• 22:47
  serial killers. Big, big into torture porn and
• 22:52
  the occult symbolism. He was kind of a transient, just
• 22:56
  living between LA and San Francisco and then just breaking
• 23:00
  into houses and sleeping in like carriage that he stole.
• 23:05
  Yeah. Basically became like a fucking
• 23:07
  the ultimate predator, really just nocturnal and random and
• 23:11
  nothing was like calculated. It was just got what he wanted,
• 23:14
  where he could get it when he wanted it.
• 23:16
  Yeah, it's, it's funny because again, as we say, like this cast
• 23:19
  of characters like his, his eldest brother taught him how to
• 23:22
  burgle. Yeah, I taught him how to, umm,
• 23:24
  how to break into places, how to like sneak around, pick, pick
• 23:28
  the perfect place to to break into.
• 23:31
  He would like case houses for days.
• 23:33
  Exactly. Yeah.
• 23:34
  And watched the in like, you know, the day-to-day life, the
• 23:38
  his Internet. His father hunt how to hunt.
• 23:41
  So he was like this is how you sneak up on animals.
• 23:44
  This is how you sneak up on deer.
• 23:45
  He became fascinated with like he liked hunting, he liked
• 23:48
  shooting, but what he really liked was sneaking up on the
• 23:51
  animals, then when he has them shot and then butchering them
• 23:53
  alive. So that obviously becomes like
• 23:56
  his, his thing where he's chopping up some animals.
• 23:58
  He ends up like he can't live in the his father's house anymore
• 24:02
  because his father becomes abusive because his his brother,
• 24:06
  like his father's whole thing in life was I'm not going to hit my
• 24:08
  kids. And then the two brothers end up
• 24:11
  like just bringing so much trouble back to the house that
• 24:14
  he starts freaking out and he's he gets aggressive.
• 24:17
  Yeah. He starts beating the kids.
• 24:19
  Ricky ends up going down the the route following his brothers
• 24:22
  burglar and stuff, gets caught robbing cars and things like
• 24:25
  that. And so Spider starts beating the
• 24:27
  shit out of him. So like he leaves and like he
• 24:29
  spends a lot of time in graveyards, like sleeping on
• 24:31
  graveyards. He loved that.
• 24:32
  Like he thought that was a very peaceful place to go on, kind of
• 24:35
  just relax and fall asleep. I do that though, I love
• 24:38
  graveyards. And then he ended up going to
• 24:40
  live with his sister. His sister loved them, by the
• 24:42
  way. His sister taught the sunshine
• 24:44
  out of his ass. Oh yeah.
• 24:45
  The little baby that came along after her, yeah.
• 24:48
  So like, she always was very protective.
• 24:50
  So she wanted like, come, come live with me.
• 24:53
  And it turns out that her fella an absolute bastard as well.
• 24:58
  So he was a peep and Tom and he taught Ricky this is, it's
• 25:02
  crazy. He meets another person that
• 25:04
  like, so his his brother teaches him how to sneak around and
• 25:07
  burgle his uh, his father teaches him how to kill things.
• 25:11
  His, uh, his brother-in-law is now teaching him how to be a
• 25:15
  peep And Tom staring in through windows like picking the perfect
• 25:18
  windows like he was. He had a whole system.
• 25:21
  He had a map drawn out where he was shown.
• 25:23
  And what are the best houses? These I know which houses they
• 25:26
  keep their windows open. They keep everything so I can
• 25:29
  stare in and I can get my jollies off.
• 25:31
  The sister ended up figuring this out and said, I'm going to
• 25:33
  leave you if you stop, if you don't stop being a pervert and
• 25:35
  stop corrupting my little brother as well.
• 25:38
  And he didn't. So she ended up actually let
• 25:40
  Ricky kind of live with her for another while until he was like
• 25:44
  getting deeper into kind of drugs and trouble.
• 25:46
  Like all he knew how to make money was just stealing shit
• 25:50
  like burgle and stuff. And he came really good at Yeah,
• 25:53
  as actually we, we kind of glanced over one thing as well
• 25:56
  as a as a teenager, he got a job in the Holiday Inn and the
• 26:00
  hotel, the motel, the Holiday Inn with Pitbull where he
• 26:04
  figured out how to burgle rooms while people were in them.
• 26:07
  So if people were gone. So he like a kind of a trick of
• 26:10
  the trade when you were, eh, working in hotels like that were
• 26:13
  like, obviously just get a key cat.
• 26:15
  He got, he carried off one of the senior people and he was
• 26:17
  just going in open up rooms. But he realized that people kind
• 26:20
  of either locked up their stuff in the safe or they just like,
• 26:24
  brought stuff with them. So the best thing to burger
• 26:26
  people, yeah, was when they were asleep in the fucking room.
• 26:29
  So he learned how to sneak into people's rooms.
• 26:31
  That's terrifying. Terrifying.
• 26:33
  He sneaked into people's rooms, got low on the ground, and what
• 26:36
  he did was he went in and he lay there until his eyes kind of
• 26:41
  readjusted to the darkness. And then he got off with a small
• 26:44
  pen light and he'd search around the room and he'd steal while
• 26:47
  people were sleeping. No, in one of these incidences,
• 26:51
  what happened was he got into a room, realized that the husband
• 26:55
  wasn't there. So he sexually assaults this
• 26:58
  wife. So they, they want a lady that
• 27:01
  was just in there. Yeah, the husband locally can't.
• 27:04
  He was just. I'm getting some food.
• 27:06
  So he came up, sees Ricky is here.
• 27:08
  I think he was 15 at the time. He beat the living shit over
• 27:12
  like. Man.
• 27:13
  The fatter or the husband came in and beat the shit out Ricky
• 27:16
  fucking He was like basically raping this woman or a trying to
• 27:21
  and he got arrested for this one.
• 27:25
  But because the couple were from our town they were like we can't
• 27:29
  come back for a court days for this.
• 27:31
  So he ends up getting off Scott free because no witnesses.
• 27:33
  He didn't go to like juvie or anything.
• 27:35
  No, nothing because like he, he'd done some time in jail, got
• 27:39
  bailed out, but there was no there was no court case because
• 27:43
  there was no witnesses. There was no people to actually
• 27:45
  prosecute them. So there was he got off Scott
• 27:48
  free and if, if these people stuck around and like or came
• 27:53
  back and prosecuted him, this probably could have saved a lot
• 27:57
  of people because he would have been in jail around the time
• 27:59
  that or at least he would have done jail and maybe retaught
• 28:03
  what life was going to be. But he he got off Scott free on
• 28:06
  this one and then went back to it.
• 28:08
  Like he obviously got fired. And that's when, like, he
• 28:10
  started this transient life of like, living in a car, like
• 28:14
  stealing cars just so he could fucking have a place to stay.
• 28:16
  But he was stealing so much, like, eh, his whole life was in
• 28:21
  Bergen. He was, eh, he got addicted to
• 28:24
  cork, eh, pretty bad on cork. He actually started freebase and
• 28:27
  cork and injecting cork and like, injecting cocaine is
• 28:32
  fucking nuts. That's crazy.
• 28:37
  But yeah. And apparently, like, he at one
• 28:39
  stage, this is, I figure I heard, but at one stage it was
• 28:42
  $1500 a week that he had to kind of gather together through, eh,
• 28:47
  burglaries so that he could pay for his drug habits.
• 28:50
  And he became really, like, he was very, always very lanky, but
• 28:54
  he became really gaunt and thin. And that's how he ended up
• 28:57
  getting this kind of really scary figure.
• 28:59
  He only wore black because that was the easiest way to, you
• 29:03
  know, burgle homes and not be seen.
• 29:05
  So like, yeah, he only ever wore black.
• 29:07
  The more he was doing drugs and kind of fell into this satanic
• 29:10
  life, people kind of reckoned they could see his eyes started
• 29:14
  just turning pure black and his teeth became all kind of messed
• 29:18
  up. So he was this.
• 29:19
  He looked like a monstrous figure.
• 29:22
  He did and like, obviously like his eyes and he's fucked up all
• 29:25
  the time. We had quite dark eyes anyway,
• 29:28
  they looked black, like they literally.
• 29:31
  Pupils like dinner plates all the time.
• 29:33
  Yeah, like, literally like Mr. Burns, like I bring you love
• 29:36
  like worse than that. Like, and no, no, he wasn't.
• 29:40
  I think what makes him the scariest to me is that he was so
• 29:43
  hard to catch because he had no like preference of a victim so
• 29:50
  he would attack man, woman, child like it didn't matter to
• 29:53
  him. So that's why he was mixed up
• 29:55
  with. Was it the Golden Gate Killer at
• 29:57
  the time? Yeah, there was the Golden Gate
• 29:59
  Killer, and then there wasn't there the The Strangler.
• 30:02
  What was the best base? Yeah, the Hillside Strangler, I
• 30:05
  think it was. Hillside.
• 30:06
  Hillside Strangler, Yeah, I don't want.
• 30:09
  Maybe they didn't. They didn't confuse him with the
• 30:10
  Hillside Strangler. I think maybe the cops were
• 30:13
  involved with the Hillside Strangler that were involved in
• 30:15
  his case. I think that was what it was.
• 30:17
  Yeah, but I, I think as well, like it was, it was a big mix up
• 30:21
  of like the 70s were fucking crazy for serial killers.
• 30:24
  There was a bunch of them. Yeah.
• 30:25
  You had Bundy, you had everyone that was kind of active in the
• 30:28
  70s and. Yeah, there was a lot of serial
• 30:31
  killers, especially around that time, like even like guys that
• 30:35
  are just in one or two killings. But a lot there was there was a
• 30:37
  serious amount of murders happening in the LA in the 70s
• 30:40
  and 80s. Yeah.
• 30:42
  And then again, like there was so many like like Jane, Jane
• 30:46
  does. And is it Jane?
• 30:49
  Jane does do. You call it if it's a guy.
• 30:50
  John Doe. Yes, a Jane Doe.
• 30:53
  John Doe, there were so many of them, like every fucking day
• 30:57
  because people would move to LA to like, make it.
• 31:00
  And a lot of them just like cut ties with their family and
• 31:03
  moved. So there was just unidentified
• 31:05
  bodies turning up everywhere. So that's another thing.
• 31:08
  Yeah, a lot of people just heading to LA.
• 31:10
  Exactly. And like, it could have been a
• 31:12
  case of like, again, like a lot of people think that his murders
• 31:16
  could be in the hundreds, but it's like so low because it's
• 31:20
  the only ones that been able to actively prove and charge him
• 31:24
  with. So he broke in through open
• 31:28
  windows, doors, skylights, always at night.
• 31:31
  Another really interesting thing that I, umm, while I was
• 31:34
  watching the documentary is that back in those days, no one
• 31:37
  locked their fucking door. No I don't lock my apartment
• 31:39
  door but I have a security guard downstairs and a two other main
• 31:45
  doors. Right.
• 31:46
  You know, sometimes the call comes from inside that, yeah.
• 31:49
  No, I know that, but like I there's no one that can get into
• 31:52
  my building and no one knows like the number of my apartment
• 31:56
  except. For the people who live in your
• 31:58
  building. Yeah, but they're all fine and
• 32:01
  but like. OK, this is this is going to be
• 32:04
  the people like they're going to use that on the Netflix
• 32:06
  documentary, by the way, for when you're.
• 32:09
  Being. Murdered.
• 32:09
  And my facial expression on this camera is going to be used.
• 32:12
  I hope. I hope we can save it.
• 32:15
  Do the do the expression it. Was that you have to be it.
• 32:17
  Was kind of a building. You have to be sad about it.
• 32:20
  You have to be like, and it's gonna, it's gonna say that and
• 32:23
  it's gonna be all like fun and games and you're laughing and
• 32:25
  it's gonna cut to you and then you're gonna be like.
• 32:27
  Yeah, it's just gonna be. Steering pensively.
• 32:29
  Solemn noise to the camera. No, I'm gonna do a Jim Parsons
• 32:33
  like, look at the camera like I told you so.
• 32:37
  We should do, we should actually just do a little like true crime
• 32:41
  style episode where it's just like the talking heads and
• 32:46
  stuff. Yeah, yeah, Netflix did a good
• 32:49
  the poop the poop Bandit wanted. Oh yeah, that was like, that was
• 32:54
  really funny. But we could do something like
• 32:55
  that anyway. So used guns, knives, hammers,
• 33:00
  machetes, whatever he could find inside.
• 33:03
  Often raped women or children. Forced victims to swear to Satan
• 33:08
  and left behind pentagrams on walls or bodies.
• 33:12
  Yep. Key crimes so March 1985.
• 33:17
  Attacked Maria Hernandez. She survived and murdered her
• 33:22
  roommate Dale Okazaki again March 1980.
• 33:26
  This. He did get up to some wrong
• 33:29
  stuff in 84 that ended up getting re.
• 33:33
  They figured out like true there were cold cases at the time like
• 33:36
  especially like the child abduction stuff was happening as
• 33:39
  well. Yeah, but didn't he leave the
• 33:42
  kids alive a lot of the time? Yeah, he never, he didn't murder
• 33:46
  any of the kids. He yet he just, he did like take
• 33:49
  kids away, sexually abused them and then just left them like
• 33:54
  near like places and, and told them like, go tell them to call
• 33:58
  911 that you're a missing child. And then like, so he, when he
• 34:02
  started off, that was kind of his MO.
• 34:04
  And I think he was still battling with his empathy and
• 34:07
  battling with like a, his Catholicism because he would
• 34:11
  have been talking to his mother where he like he'd be on the
• 34:13
  font of his mother and saying like, I'm I'm a bad person.
• 34:16
  Would you pray for me? I like, would you please pray to
• 34:20
  Jesus for me? Because I think Satan has me.
• 34:22
  And his mother was like, fucking in panic mode because she was,
• 34:25
  like, highly religious. Yeah.
• 34:27
  But I at this stage, like in 1984, I think he was still kind
• 34:31
  of battling with like the bad stuff that he was doing.
• 34:35
  I think, yeah, I think in 84, that was when he took, I think
• 34:38
  he took that little girl from her home while she was sleeping.
• 34:42
  Yeah, everyone, the whole house was sleeping and he took her.
• 34:44
  Yeah, just wonder up. And while she was sleeping and
• 34:47
  she kind of was like, she automatically thought like, Oh
• 34:51
  yeah, some someone, someone I know has.
• 34:53
  I know she was. Yeah, yeah.
• 34:55
  And he, like, he didn't do it. He brought to McDonald's, He
• 34:58
  freaked out. He couldn't do anything.
• 35:00
  And he got her like Happy Meal or something and sat with her
• 35:03
  for ages and just talked to her. And she was saying that like I
• 35:07
  think she was like 5 or 6 at the time.
• 35:09
  So she doesn't really remember a lot of it.
• 35:10
  But like, apparently he just went, got out of the car, got
• 35:15
  her Happy Meal, and then they just sat there and they ate
• 35:17
  their food and he dropped her back.
• 35:18
  Yeah, there's other kids that weren't so lucky.
• 35:20
  Yeah, in the end that like he, he did end up ducking kids off
• 35:25
  the street and stuff like that. That it was kind of that stuff
• 35:29
  all came out later on because they were focusing on a murder.
• 35:35
  They didn't really look into these kind of other cranes or
• 35:38
  link them up until later on when they kind of got some evidence
• 35:41
  like a obviously there's going to be one true lane with a lot
• 35:45
  of these killings is this footprint that he left behind.
• 35:47
  But also there was like, DNA and fingerprints that they
• 35:50
  retroactively figured out because they updated their
• 35:53
  systems. Like the year after he was on
• 35:56
  his rampage, this system updated.
• 35:58
  And they were like, if they had the system in place the year
• 36:01
  before, he would have been caught like almost immediately
• 36:03
  because his fingerprint would have been in the system from
• 36:06
  like, crimes that he committed as a teenager.
• 36:09
  Pay crimes. The rape stuff and just even
• 36:12
  just stealing cars that he got caught for as well.
• 36:14
  So that same month, then in 1985, these are the ones that he
• 36:18
  he actually starts to get charged with.
• 36:20
  So he killed Veronica Yu, dragged her from her car and
• 36:25
  then shot her in the head. Umm.
• 36:27
  Math, that is. Made to all.
• 36:30
  That's so that that one is fucked up.
• 36:33
  If we go back to the previous one, yeah, like where he's kind
• 36:36
  of a little bit sloppy on these ones.
• 36:37
  So like he's, you can see that he's kind of.
• 36:39
  Maria Hernandez yes, the 1st and she survived in her roommate.
• 36:44
  So he went to shoot her. Yeah.
• 36:47
  And she like, it's fascinating what he did with her.
• 36:49
  So she she was getting into the garage and he was watching for
• 36:52
  the garage door like closing and he don't like he went in Indiana
• 36:57
  Jones style, slid underneath and then popped up surprise bitch.
• 37:01
  And he went and well, I think the, the the psychologist said
• 37:05
  like he was, he loved that. He was like giving them that
• 37:08
  little bit of surprise like he loved watching the look in their
• 37:10
  face and he shot at her and she had keys in her hand and the
• 37:15
  bullet ricocheted off the keys in her hand now still messed up
• 37:18
  her hand, but she hit the deck and he thought, well, that's her
• 37:21
  dad I'm after shooting in the head, but she blocked it with
• 37:24
  keys, which is so fascinating. This gun that he uses, this 22
• 37:27
  is kind of ineffectual a lot of the time.
• 37:30
  Now he kills a lot of people with at 22, but it's not like
• 37:33
  this fucking magnum or a 45 or something like that, that he's
• 37:37
  like blowing people's heads on. Yeah, it's it's actually a
• 37:41
  little girl. Fucking horrible the way it
• 37:42
  turns out that a lot of people that he shoots end up like going
• 37:46
  on to live like for a couple of hours afterwards.
• 37:49
  But not GAIL did the the roommate.
• 37:51
  Yes. So yeah, he he walks into the
• 37:53
  kitchen and she's hiding behind the counter.
• 37:54
  GAIL. Yeah, he can see her hands.
• 37:58
  He can see her hands on the counter, and he's waiting for
• 38:00
  her to look up. So he's completely silent in the
• 38:02
  room. And as she looks over the
• 38:04
  counter, plugs are right in the forehead as he's leaving, Eh,
• 38:09
  this Maria girl is, eh, waiting in the garage.
• 38:12
  He points the gun at her, sees that she's still alive.
• 38:16
  She more or less says, please don't kill me, You've already
• 38:18
  shot me. You've already shot me.
• 38:20
  And he just leaves her. So he like he had the
• 38:23
  opportunity to kill her. Yeah.
• 38:25
  And then he just leaves. It was.
• 38:26
  It's just, it's weird how sloppy it is, but he gets away with so
• 38:31
  much shit like. Is it sloppy though, or is it
• 38:33
  intentional like a lot of that you had because he was so
• 38:36
  sadistic? Good point.
• 38:37
  It's a good point. Yeah, you know what I mean?
• 38:38
  Like, you know, that he's probably like that poor woman
• 38:41
  will have to live with that for the rest of her life.
• 38:43
  She's going to be traumatized for the rest of her life.
• 38:46
  Like she's not going to be able to live a normal life for the
• 38:48
  rest of her life. Like you have to wonder, did he
• 38:52
  want that? Was he just like, do you know
• 38:54
  what? This is good enough.
• 38:56
  I've shot her. She's seen this happen.
• 38:59
  She's going to have to crawl her way into her house to call the
• 39:01
  cops and everyone's dead. You know what I mean?
• 39:04
  I do think that he gets easily spooked a lot of the times
• 39:07
  because he's used to like when he's kind of perfecting his
• 39:11
  craft or when he's good at what he does.
• 39:13
  He is very sneaky. And a lot of it isn't about like
• 39:17
  when confronted with stuff like the fact that he got this shit
• 39:20
  kicked out of him by this guy when he was a sexually assault
• 39:22
  and the his wife. Yeah.
• 39:24
  And when when he does get challenged, he does kind of
• 39:27
  cower a little bit. But when it comes to and.
• 39:30
  I think. Sorry.
• 39:32
  Go on ahead. Go on, Sir.
• 39:33
  No, I just said. Like he gets that.
• 39:34
  Like, oh, now we're doing the thing where we keep on there and
• 39:37
  now you go first, now you hang up.
• 39:41
  I'll just go. I do think that when confronted
• 39:44
  or when he gets kind of shocked, he does bolt.
• 39:47
  He does kind of have that in him like that he's not, he's not the
• 39:51
  big strong guy that he is that that he he wishes he.
• 39:54
  Was yeah. And I think that's like that's
• 39:56
  really, really evident in how he actually got caught as well,
• 40:02
  because more than one person, he just tends to shit himself a
• 40:06
  little bit and like. If you know anything with it, he
• 40:09
  basically got caught because. Danny, don't spoil it.
• 40:12
  Sorry for like what 25 year old case?
• 40:16
  It's it's a 39 year old case and I know that because I was born
• 40:20
  in 1980. Five, don't tell me that because
• 40:23
  because now I'm like, Oh yeah, I always miss that.
• 40:26
  I always feel like I miss 10 years when I think of the 80s,
• 40:29
  I'm like, sure, that was last week, yeah.
• 40:30
  But anyway, so both in March, so Maria Hernandez and her roommate
• 40:35
  and then Veronica you the. Lady in the car then is after
• 40:39
  that's that's another crazy one because that's like, yeah,
• 40:42
  that's out in the open like. Yeah, just shot her and just
• 40:45
  dragged her and shot her in the head in public.
• 40:46
  He was following her and she got spooked and what?
• 40:49
  And was like, what the fuck? What do you thought?
• 40:51
  Like, So she slowed down and let him pass.
• 40:54
  And then she started following him.
• 40:56
  And as he stopped the car, she is like, what the fuck you What?
• 40:59
  What are you following me for? And he was like, eh, no, there's
• 41:03
  no issue. There's no issue here.
• 41:04
  And he slips out with a car. Yeah.
• 41:07
  Gets in, shoots her in the side while he's trying to get he gets
• 41:11
  into our passenger seat, shoots her in the side.
• 41:13
  Is 22 again this 22 like does some damage but doesn't kill her
• 41:19
  because she he's after shooting her in the fucking ribs or
• 41:21
  whatever, she gets out of the car and as she's crawling away
• 41:24
  he shoots her in the back of the head.
• 41:25
  This is witnessed by people as well.
• 41:27
  Yeah. Gets back into his stolen car
• 41:29
  and just drives off. Yeah, I mean, like you're right.
• 41:31
  That is just the only word for that is is just sloppy.
• 41:35
  So May to August then continue to spray of pretty much already
• 41:40
  fucking random break insurance including raping children,
• 41:45
  murdering elderly couples and if you can hear someone speeding
• 41:50
  around that is my cat having the absolute fucking zoomies.
• 41:53
  He's just woken up from like a 8 hour nap mutilating corpses
• 42:01
  doing this fucking thing right. He does this thing on my couch
• 42:05
  and it's. Here I'm freaking out, yes.
• 42:10
  He does this thing under the couch.
• 42:11
  He just like rock climbs, but he like.
• 42:13
  Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I've seen.
• 42:15
  Underneath the. They pull themselves along their
• 42:17
  back, yeah. Not getting my deposit back at
• 42:20
  all. But anyway, one woman that he
• 42:22
  raped survived and testified that he forced her to praise
• 42:25
  Satan during the assault, which fucking rubs me up the wrong
• 42:30
  way. I mean, rape and murder
• 42:32
  obviously rubs me up the wrong way, don't get me fucking wrong,
• 42:34
  but like. Yeah, this is.
• 42:35
  This is again, as we were talking about last time with,
• 42:38
  yeah, Crowley, eh, the Satanic Panic kind of sets in and people
• 42:42
  automatically go to or Satan's a bad guy in our religion.
• 42:45
  So automatically, like even he was kind of, he went to some,
• 42:51
  eh, to some Satanist meetings. And I think he came out of it
• 42:53
  being like, yeah, he came over being like, that's not what I
• 42:56
  like. I want to be evil.
• 42:59
  And they were like. Exactly, it's how I was
• 43:01
  describing like Levan Satanism to you, which is very much just
• 43:04
  like gluttony. Basically just selfishness and
• 43:07
  gluttony. And it has something.
• 43:09
  To do with cooking, murdering do do.
• 43:11
  What you want as long as like it's for you and not like.
• 43:14
  You're not hurting anyone. Yeah, that's basically it.
• 43:18
  Like, and he was just in the name of Satan, which like there
• 43:20
  are there are religions and sects and stuff and cults that
• 43:25
  do believe in that and like, you know, sacrifice.
• 43:27
  But this is just, again, a very uneducated, edgy little man that
• 43:34
  it was just kind of yeah. So how we got caught?
• 43:37
  People killed in the name of Jesus, you know, I don't know if
• 43:40
  you've heard it's a crusade. Episode on the Crusade.
• 43:48
  It's just fucking Brits who piss me off.
• 43:50
  Just us reading from the Bible, it would just turn into a Monty
• 43:56
  Python, I think, he said. Blessed are the cheese makers.
• 44:03
  The cheese makers. Let's not get into Monty Python
• 44:07
  because I Yeah. Can I just say I don't think he
• 44:10
  meant the cheese makers. I think he meant any
• 44:12
  manufacturer of dairy products. OK, I'm done.
• 44:15
  I'm done. I'm done.
• 44:17
  Let's get back to the murder and one of these ones where he's he
• 44:22
  comes in to a he shoots a husband in the head and then
• 44:27
  goes in. Yeah, he makes him.
• 44:31
  Walk an invalid wife, eh? So she is this is what they
• 44:35
  would have described her as the thing, but she was paraplegic.
• 44:38
  He uses he uses Tom cuffs, which are a very weird choice, but
• 44:43
  obviously what he has. Yeah, he cuffs her Toms
• 44:45
  together, brutally rapes her, but the husband was he didn't
• 44:51
  know the husband was like alive, but the husband obviously was
• 44:54
  shot. True, like true Detroit.
• 44:57
  I couldn't speak, but this absolute fucking badass of a
• 45:00
  human being calls 911, can't speak.
• 45:04
  So he's breathing heavy down the phone. 911 obviously did get the
• 45:08
  address from the telephone number and they send out like
• 45:14
  all kinds of like police because they don't know what's going on.
• 45:18
  So they send ambulance, police, fire brigade, the whole lot.
• 45:20
  But he's obviously. Whoever the fuck we need,
• 45:23
  there's something, yeah. So he's been gone at that stage.
• 45:26
  They come in to see that he is lying like in a pool of their
• 45:30
  own of his own blood and the husband and they're like, or
• 45:34
  something's after happening to him.
• 45:35
  We don't know. There must be an accident or
• 45:36
  something like that. And then they notice that the
• 45:38
  wife is after dragging herself by the by the elbows.
• 45:41
  She's she's ripped her tomb like more or less off all the skin of
• 45:45
  her thumbs after coming off because she's ripped out of
• 45:46
  these thumb calls and she is now army crawled again, paralyzed
• 45:50
  from the way it's down. She army crawls her way in and
• 45:54
  she's fucking absolutely fucking gone.
• 45:57
  She's so shocked she can't even speak, so she can't tell them
• 45:59
  what's after happening. In the end, they get it over
• 46:02
  what's after happening. Now they're looking for a guy.
• 46:04
  They haven't really. He's in different places.
• 46:06
  So I haven't pieced it together that what he's after doing here
• 46:09
  is the same as like, you know, the, the murders of the, the
• 46:13
  roommate and the lady in the car.
• 46:16
  None of these are after being, yeah, pieced together yet, but
• 46:20
  she's she's able to give a description of this kind of
• 46:23
  gaunt, lanky dude with like dark eyes and like this light skinned
• 46:29
  Hispanic guy, horrible teeth, smells like a goat apparently,
• 46:33
  or smells like just smells like just smells disgustingly like,
• 46:37
  yeah, he's a guy. He did obviously doesn't wash
• 46:38
  himself. His dental hygiene is terrible.
• 46:40
  He's like he's doing nothing but taking drugs and living in cars.
• 46:43
  Basically like the description, the descriptions come in and I
• 46:47
  think from there they're kind of are sort of piercing together
• 46:50
  that it might be a serial killer.
• 46:52
  Fucking took them long enough. Like yeah, with the two big.
• 46:55
  Cops. They know all work together,
• 46:56
  different departments, different areas and they don't want to
• 46:59
  disclose. So these guys who are on this
• 47:01
  day homicide from the first, uh, their like, I think there's a
• 47:05
  task force put together and when they realize that it's a serial
• 47:11
  killer, but the local cops don't want to play a ball at all
• 47:14
  because they're like, this is our case.
• 47:15
  Who do you think you are coming in?
• 47:16
  You know, it's this fucking Dick swinging competition again.
• 47:19
  It's like, who do you think you are coming in here and you're
• 47:21
  going to take over our case? Yeah, this is our case.
• 47:23
  But like, like, you know, there's no it's.
• 47:26
  Like. Fucking department and whatever.
• 47:31
  It is. It reminds me a lot of like SO
• 47:34
  obviously like your adrenaline stuff is like pumping through
• 47:36
  here like 2 fucking badass people right there to be able to
• 47:39
  like actually survive it and to get to each other and stuff.
• 47:45
  The husband died later in hospital, but like, he was an
• 47:48
  absolute fucking trooper to be like he basically.
• 47:51
  Absolutely, and saved his wife's life like.
• 47:53
  He saved his wife's life because fucking he realized Ricky
• 47:57
  realized that like oh shit, he's after been on the phone.
• 48:00
  That's sick. So that's why he bowled it.
• 48:02
  So he basically saved his wife's life when I can't do that.
• 48:07
  Yeah, and it's it's ridiculous because it's like how the human
• 48:11
  body is just insane. And I don't know if you will
• 48:15
  probably cover this at another point, but it's like one of the
• 48:19
  most fascinating kind of cases to me.
• 48:21
  I think her name was. I don't know if Deborah Finch
• 48:24
  was like the like the the folklore name, but it was it
• 48:30
  was. A Finch rings a bell.
• 48:31
  Yeah, it was a real story that happened.
• 48:33
  So basically this woman was abducted and murdered, left for
• 48:38
  dead, But she was dumped in a ditch, like down into a marsh.
• 48:43
  She was pretty much decapitated. And this woman held her head
• 48:48
  onto her neck and climbed up out of the ditch onto the road and
• 48:55
  was able to flag down a car. And now she was caught right to
• 49:00
  the bone. So if she had to let go of her
• 49:03
  hand, her head would have just like just slept back.
• 49:06
  And she was called, I think it was like the headless Hwy.
• 49:09
  woman, something really distasteful or something like
• 49:11
  that. But she literally was holding
• 49:14
  her head onto her neck. And she survived another girl
• 49:19
  then she was brown to the middle of the woods, essentially
• 49:23
  disemboweled this girl picked all of her organs back up,
• 49:29
  pulled them inside her stomach, held her stomach and just.
• 49:34
  Walked. Until she met the main Rd. and
• 49:38
  then like someone pulled up and like stopped and like obviously
• 49:41
  just drove her straight to the hospital and stuff.
• 49:44
  But yeah, like it's happened. If you'd like.
• 49:45
  The human body just is fascinating where it just when
• 49:49
  it goes into fight or flight, it's crazy.
• 49:52
  Like, you know, and it's, you always hear these stories like,
• 49:54
  Oh yeah, like moms and their kids in danger.
• 49:56
  They can like flip trucks and stuff like that.
• 49:59
  But it's like, imagine your head hanging on by like, a, like, a
• 50:02
  couple of inches of muscle, and you're just able to climb up.
• 50:08
  That determination to live is just insane to me.
• 50:13
  And that's what it reminds me of with that couple because, like,
• 50:15
  he obviously so fucking badly wanted to save her.
• 50:19
  She so badly wanted to get to him.
• 50:21
  And, like, it is very unfortunate, obviously, that he
• 50:23
  lost his life. But I think that's such an
• 50:26
  incredible story of how strong people actually are.
• 50:28
  Yeah. Like crazy.
• 50:30
  Like it actually happens. It happens more than once with
• 50:33
  people in this in this whole story of like he thinks that
• 50:37
  they're dead and it turns out that they are way more
• 50:41
  resilience than he taught. It kind of shows how how violent
• 50:45
  he ends up getting after these couple of these couple of
• 50:48
  misdeeds. So this is him kind of testing
• 50:50
  out and then he ends up gone like so fucking like brutal with
• 50:55
  some of the murders after that where like shoots, shoots the
• 51:02
  husband in the head, makes sure makes sure that he's dead and
• 51:05
  then goes in and stabs the living shit out of the wife.
• 51:09
  I think that the one of the next ones is when he gets in, he does
• 51:13
  shoot the husband goes in. The husband had a fascinating
• 51:19
  story. He burgled the house so was in
• 51:22
  stole from the house. The victims then ended up he
• 51:27
  went, he went back to the house and this is when he went in, he
• 51:30
  murdered the husband. So shot him in the head, but
• 51:33
  he'd already burgled this house. So they were already on age that
• 51:39
  like there's the burglaries happening.
• 51:41
  So what they've done is they went down and bought a shock on,
• 51:44
  yeah, there's a shock on underneath the bed.
• 51:47
  So she, the wife hears the the gunshot and she automatically
• 51:52
  goes, I need to get this shotgun.
• 51:54
  Fucking goes under the bed pulls out the shotgun.
• 51:57
  The husband was afraid because they had their grandkids
• 52:00
  knocking around. He was afraid that the grandkids
• 52:05
  were going to play with the gun so he took all the bullets.
• 52:07
  I would have gone. So she points the gun at
• 52:09
  Rodriguez face and then fucking click no bullets.
• 52:15
  He goes fucking ape shit, stabs her like so many times around
• 52:21
  the neck and fucking really goes to town on her.
• 52:26
  Like fucking pubic area goes a shit there.
• 52:30
  But he was so violent that he tries to call her heart out.
• 52:34
  Can't get through the rib cage so he opts for cutting her
• 52:38
  eyelids off and popping her eyeballs out.
• 52:42
  Then went to when he was going around ransacking the place to
• 52:46
  see what he can get out of place.
• 52:48
  He found her jewelry chest. Popped the eyes into the jewelry
• 52:52
  chest and then kept them as like souvenirs.
• 52:56
  I think he might have put a pentagram on the wall in this
• 52:59
  place in her lipstick. I'm not sure if it was one of
• 53:01
  those places, but that's when they start realizing that
• 53:04
  there's some satanic stuff involved as well.
• 53:06
  That was a huge, a huge thing with that gain, which I think we
• 53:10
  should do next time because he's fascinating.
• 53:13
  But the officers who had like, obviously they found like this
• 53:16
  little like, don't kill me for bringing up a Simpsons quote.
• 53:23
  But it's like, it's a candy dish, Ned to store candy.
• 53:27
  So it's like, I guess you could put yourself in it.
• 53:30
  No, just candy. So it was like a little candy
• 53:33
  dish and it was just full of these like weird little overly
• 53:38
  shaped dried things. And it was just eyelids.
• 53:42
  It was just a box full of fucking eyelids.
• 53:44
  Nice guy. And that's yeah, that reminds me
• 53:47
  of that. But Ed Gain is another, yeah,
• 53:49
  another, another. We'll do him next because like,
• 53:52
  especially with the show coming out and everything, like it's
• 53:54
  jogging, like my memory of like I would read about him for
• 53:58
  hours. He was.
• 53:59
  So basically the Texas Chainsaw Massacre, that guy was based on
• 54:03
  him. Let's let's do let's do a light
• 54:06
  subject next and then we will go to again when we go back to true
• 54:10
  crime. I want to.
• 54:14
  It's because I scared the shit out of you in the first episode
• 54:18
  that we lost, yeah. I love that it's now the first
• 54:21
  episode that we lost. We've lost more episodes than we
• 54:23
  have recorded so. Oh God, I know, I know.
• 54:26
  Well, I'm like this year I'm keeping an eye.
• 54:27
  I'm hawk eyeing the fucking bars here because I can't.
• 54:32
  We can't lose another episode. Umm.
• 54:34
  But anyway, back to our boy. So that's an elderly couple.
• 54:37
  So he's he's basically there's women in their prime kids,
• 54:42
  elderly couples, Eh, like the guy just there's no MO except
• 54:47
  for I can break into this house. That's that's why his there was
• 54:51
  there was a point when they were when people thought that he's
• 54:54
  broken into a couple of brown houses.
• 54:56
  So people with brown houses were outside repainting their houses
• 54:59
  just in case. That was why his motive was
• 55:01
  because they just didn't know. They had no idea.
• 55:03
  He like it was like game what we discussed when we were talking
• 55:07
  about the strangers that the movie that frightened the shit
• 55:09
  out of me. It's like.
• 55:10
  You were home. Yeah, Why did you pick us?
• 55:12
  Because you were home with which fucked me up so long.
• 55:16
  But like, that's exactly what it is.
• 55:17
  Why did you pick me? It's because I could get into
• 55:20
  that window or I could just open your door.
• 55:22
  There's some places that he just walked straight in.
• 55:24
  That's exactly, and that's the thing that like, I mean I, I
• 55:27
  love horror movies and stuff like that and movies where it's
• 55:30
  just people scare me so much more because that could so
• 55:33
  fucking easily happen as opposed to like oh there's a ghost or
• 55:37
  demon like blah blah whatever. 9 times out of 10 if there's a
• 55:40
  ghost in your house, just sleep with fucking earplugs.
• 55:42
  So I mean if you don't want to hear footsteps or things
• 55:44
  banging, it can't harm yet. I mean I'm used to say as the
• 55:47
  dead can't harm yet it's the living you have to worry about.
• 55:49
  But it is. It's true because like.
• 55:51
  I just don't believe in ghosts. That's you always go down that
• 55:54
  road. They're real, though.
• 55:56
  They are real. And I'll go into more details.
• 55:59
  I was going to save this till the end of the podcast, but I
• 56:03
  have, you know, this. I have some bad juju, I think
• 56:06
  from I actually have bought for an obscene amount of money, a
• 56:11
  painting by Mr. Ramirez. What?
• 56:16
  Yeah, so. I did not know this one.
• 56:21
  I told you this. Did you win?
• 56:23
  Yeah. Oh, like weeks ago, before I
• 56:26
  think when we just decided to do the podcast and.
• 56:28
  Well, when you were talking about the stuff you had, you got
• 56:30
  off the dark web. And there's Ramirez.
• 56:34
  It was so. It's just like a prison painter.
• 56:38
  Yeah, he did it in prison. It's just a landscape, but it's
• 56:40
  all done in Reds and blacks. It's in my brother's house, but
• 56:45
  it was in my mom's house. And when she passed away, I was
• 56:49
  like, can you like move that shit?
• 56:51
  Like don't throw it out or anything?
• 56:53
  And he was like, yeah, but it's going in the garage.
• 56:55
  I'm not having that shit in my house.
• 56:56
  And I was like, cool. So he's got my Ramirez painting.
• 56:59
  He's got my Charles Manson toenail clippings.
• 57:04
  Again that. Earn there to do.
• 57:07
  Just for anyone listening, like Danny has toenail clippings that
• 57:12
  are apparently Charles Manson's. So yeah, that's what I'm
• 57:17
  dealing. With yeah, I like collecting
• 57:18
  weird shit and what else do I have?
• 57:22
  Not eyeballs, by any chance? No, I think it was like like a
• 57:25
  bloody finger. Bloody fingerprints.
• 57:29
  Jesus. Christ.
• 57:31
  I have a lot of shit do. I have like a fucking full
• 57:34
  length Victorian morning dress. I have a death mask of like some
• 57:42
  fucking 1800s guy and I'm terrified like my biggest
• 57:45
  phobias puppets but I have a ventriloquist dummy that was
• 57:49
  sold off. He's from like 18, late 1800s,
• 57:54
  early 1900s, and when I got him he arrived in a box like full of
• 57:58
  salt. Gabble, gabble, gabble.
• 58:00
  Yeah, legit. He looks like Gabble.
• 58:02
  But why? And it's my biggest but I hate.
• 58:04
  Them but why did you buy that I'm.
• 58:06
  Just fascinated with it. I'm just fascinated.
• 58:08
  I just thought it was so cool and like, I don't know, I'm just
• 58:11
  really, really like, I have like different things.
• 58:14
  I have teeth, I have like wreaths made out of people's
• 58:17
  hair. I have just a lot of weird shit
• 58:22
  like, and I'm into taxidermy, wet specimens, freak show
• 58:27
  specimens. So it's like something born
• 58:30
  with. That stuff does me in the free
• 58:32
  show kind of stuff. Why?
• 58:33
  I don't know, like it. I don't know what it is.
• 58:36
  Just aesthetically, it kind of really creeps me out.
• 58:39
  And do you remember did on the American Horror Story and then
• 58:42
  did on the like the Carnival 1 of it?
• 58:44
  I was, I tapped out on that one. I was like, Nah, can't do it
• 58:48
  really. But just I don't.
• 58:50
  I didn't like. I don't like that.
• 58:51
  That whole carnival thing really freaks me out.
• 58:53
  The kind of freak show. The lobster hands.
• 58:56
  Yeah, like this kind of stuff. Kind of.
• 58:57
  Does I tapped out on that season, though, when you know,
• 58:59
  Mon Petite, the smallest woman in the world?
• 59:02
  Again, didn't didn't watch it. I watched the open credits of
• 59:04
  the first episode. I was like, I'm out.
• 59:06
  Oh, it's a great season. My favorite though of all of
• 59:08
  them is the the Coven. So which one?
• 59:11
  I love that. One, yeah, I think I was still
• 59:13
  knocking around for the Coven one, but.
• 59:15
  I watch that every Halloween because I'm just like it.
• 59:18
  Just it just makes you feel like it's autumn and it just brings
• 59:20
  that time of year into. And then I really liked Roanoke,
• 59:25
  which we could do a whole episode on Roanoke because
• 59:27
  Roanoke is crazy. That's the mental hospital.
• 59:30
  No, that's Briarwood. The aside, what's Roanoke?
• 59:33
  I doubt rings a bell. Roanoke is like a a real life
• 59:37
  kind of folklore story. It's like a village that
• 59:40
  basically just disappeared. This, This I know, this I know.
• 59:44
  I've heard Roanoke before. Yeah, and it's, it's so it's
• 59:49
  essentially a bunch of like English settlers.
• 59:51
  Boo founded this village. One of the guys was sailing back
• 59:55
  to England to get like supplies or something.
• 59:57
  Slaves. Probably sailed all the way back
• 1:00:02
  and then the village was completely gone with no
• 1:00:04
  evidence, nothing but there was like a carving on the tree.
• 1:00:08
  This. Door ring a bell with me?
• 1:00:10
  Yeah. Yes.
• 1:00:12
  And so that's like that's very much like still talked about and
• 1:00:15
  like, it very much is because it happened in like the 1600s.
• 1:00:19
  It just gives me the whole, some people used to say he sat over
• 1:00:22
  there by those dogs. He went back to the wrong place
• 1:00:27
  because like, you don't have fucking GPS to guide you, like
• 1:00:31
  turn left on fucking colonize junction.
• 1:00:34
  Like, you know, but it is really interesting.
• 1:00:37
  So a lot of people just kind of assume, like, Oh yeah, the
• 1:00:39
  winter hit and they have to move like, South, whatever.
• 1:00:45
  But yeah, the town was never founded again.
• 1:00:47
  There was no buildings. There was nothing.
• 1:00:49
  No one could find it. Just Spanish.
• 1:00:52
  And OK, we've we've digressed from Ricky here, so we should
• 1:00:56
  get back on track. So let's get to how he got
• 1:01:01
  caught because I love this story.
• 1:01:04
  Just just to go down the route of like how much of a bad
• 1:01:07
  battery was, was an 81 year old woman and or a 79 year old woman
• 1:01:12
  and her 81 year old sister who was also the 79 year old was
• 1:01:16
  home held for her 81 year old sister who was again, very much
• 1:01:20
  so disabled. And he like, yeah, raped and
• 1:01:25
  murdered and butchered and carved up these two women in
• 1:01:30
  horrific circumstances. It was fucking desperate.
• 1:01:33
  So it was, it was way too long common before he actually did
• 1:01:38
  get caught. But let's go through then how
• 1:01:40
  the how they got him. Like, yeah.
• 1:01:43
  All the force actually quit over that case, didn't they?
• 1:01:46
  Because they were like, we can't fucking deal with it.
• 1:01:48
  Like everyone needed like therapy for years and years and
• 1:01:52
  years and like just. Yeah, fucked a lot of people up
• 1:01:55
  and a lot of these guys who are kind of self admittedly like
• 1:01:59
  tough guys, but when they seen the kind of actions they were
• 1:02:02
  like, there's too much violence in this world.
• 1:02:04
  If if there's people like this in the world, I can't do this.
• 1:02:06
  Like so there was a lot of a lot of tough guys ended up seeing
• 1:02:11
  the world was a worse place than they could fucking save.
• 1:02:14
  And there was a lot of detectives on the case that I
• 1:02:18
  mean, there was quite a few that lost their wives because they've
• 1:02:22
  just, they're like, I am 24 hours in the station on this
• 1:02:26
  fucking case. And then they were all kind of
• 1:02:29
  terrified about them, their families being targeted, so they
• 1:02:33
  would basically put their families into witness
• 1:02:36
  protection. Program they had to move their
• 1:02:37
  families away yeah, especially as the the the the case was
• 1:02:41
  getting more kind of personal and the detectives were being
• 1:02:46
  interviewed on TV and, or even just their faces were being put
• 1:02:50
  into the newspapers. They were kind of becoming
• 1:02:51
  celebrities themselves. Yeah and they had the kind of
• 1:02:54
  the the main couple of cops that were on the case they're kind of
• 1:02:58
  stuck with the guy who found the hillside strangler.
• 1:03:02
  He was one of the main cops and then there was this kind of new
• 1:03:05
  open common super cop that he kind of took under his wing and
• 1:03:08
  these two guys were like he was great yeah.
• 1:03:10
  He was the one that piece together that it was abducting
• 1:03:13
  the children as well as like he was basically he was being kind
• 1:03:17
  of shown from the police where they were like every time he
• 1:03:20
  walked over room, they were like that fucking idiot doesn't know
• 1:03:23
  why he's talking about. How was he just Willy nilly
• 1:03:25
  trolling these cases together? Like, but he had, he didn't just
• 1:03:29
  have a hunch, like he had evidence, but it was until there
• 1:03:33
  was real substantial evidence and different departments
• 1:03:35
  actually started working together and showing what they
• 1:03:37
  had. When there was a task force made
• 1:03:40
  that was like, you need to fucking start pooling our
• 1:03:42
  resources here. That's when they figured out or
• 1:03:44
  this guy was right all along. So he's kind of like, you know,
• 1:03:48
  did he was the guy that was peace and everything together.
• 1:03:50
  Yeah. Like Rain Man, the whole thing.
• 1:03:53
  Hispanic guy so he was really good working in the community
• 1:03:56
  because a lot of the LA community, California community
• 1:03:59
  or Hispanic, so he was able to kind of work with them to kind
• 1:04:03
  of figure this kind of stuff out talking to witnesses and stuff
• 1:04:05
  I'm. Going to throw in like a little.
• 1:04:08
  No, no, you go on in a fun fact I love a fun fact.
• 1:04:12
  No, I'm going to walk along for ages.
• 1:04:13
  So you hit the fun factor. OK, so this is a completely
• 1:04:17
  separate thing in itself. It needs its own episode.
• 1:04:19
  But a really fun fact that I found about Ramirez is that he
• 1:04:24
  lived at the Cecil Hotel for a large amount of time.
• 1:04:30
  Yeah, that's known as basically a portal to hell.
• 1:04:34
  And it would make sense that he he stayed there a lot.
• 1:04:37
  So yeah, keep well, We'll, we'll, we'll cover that.
• 1:04:41
  There's too much to get into that right now.
• 1:04:42
  A lot of stories coming from that one.
• 1:04:44
  One of the the big stories was that the girl who went missing
• 1:04:47
  in the season hotel. And then?
• 1:04:50
  Yeah, so that was a a Netflix documentary as well, wasn't?
• 1:04:53
  It yeah, and you'll love this as well because I know when like
• 1:04:55
  you got bone itis and you were stuck inside the whole time when
• 1:04:59
  you watched Angel yeah season 2 when he first moves in they
• 1:05:03
  first move into the hotel to buy yeah yeah yeah, that's based on
• 1:05:06
  the sessile ah. Very good season.
• 1:05:08
  Yeah. The more you know, that's a,
• 1:05:11
  that is a demon. That is a lovely little
• 1:05:12
  interesting fact. The demon that's like draining
• 1:05:15
  everyone's life force and turning everyone against each
• 1:05:17
  other and like, yeah, that's basically the sessile.
• 1:05:20
  That's what they based on. It's pretty cool.
• 1:05:23
  I was a pretty cool little fact. It's.
• 1:05:25
  Back to Richard. We can do this.
• 1:05:27
  We can do the Cecil our the Cecil Hotel at some stage
• 1:05:31
  because that is an interesting we.
• 1:05:32
  Should do that next, honestly, because it's like it's a nice
• 1:05:36
  little tie in and it's so interesting and I have a bunch
• 1:05:39
  of shit already on it that I've made for notes for like the last
• 1:05:43
  podcast, but we didn't make it. So I'm like, this is cool.
• 1:05:47
  But anyway, so when the heat was on on on Ricky, he went to
• 1:05:53
  Arizona, which is like, all right, we'll just fuck off.
• 1:05:56
  Arizona died down for a little bit, was kind of laying low,
• 1:06:00
  came back to LA. But by the time he got back,
• 1:06:05
  realized he was all over the fucking news.
• 1:06:09
  So that little boy wonder detective had caught him,
• 1:06:13
  figured out who he was, had the mug shot.
• 1:06:15
  Everyone was fucking looking for him and he was essentially
• 1:06:20
  recognized in East LA driving through a community.
• 1:06:23
  His car broke down. Hold on, let's let's get to how
• 1:06:27
  they piece this thing together first.
• 1:06:29
  This shoe is the the shoe is the more this is fucking.
• 1:06:34
  Oh, the Aziz, the Aziz trainer. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:06:36
  OK, so like there's yeah, there's these these shoes, the
• 1:06:40
  fucking Aziz or what? What are you?
• 1:06:42
  I forget that. Yeah, Aziz Ansari, I don't
• 1:06:46
  think. Oh, Aviva, no Aviva.
• 1:06:48
  Yes, Avi. So yeah, something like that.
• 1:06:51
  Aviva Yeah, yeah. OK, so because again, we don't
• 1:06:54
  know what they are because they were.
• 1:06:56
  Aziz Ansari I just caught. But I am because they're not
• 1:07:02
  Nike. They're not added as they're
• 1:07:05
  like, they're just this, this kind of they were like this new
• 1:07:09
  shoe that they were trying out. They didn't bring a lot of them
• 1:07:12
  over. They still make them, by the
• 1:07:13
  way. Yeah, but at the time they
• 1:07:15
  didn't have many of them in America at all.
• 1:07:17
  And he had a kind of an odd a shoe size, which was an 11 1/2,
• 1:07:24
  which makes it sound like he's a half a size bigger than me, but
• 1:07:27
  that's American sizes. So he's a half a small 1/2 a
• 1:07:30
  size smaller than me. So each shit Ricky.
• 1:07:33
  And but it was odd because they obviously assumed that these
• 1:07:38
  were going to be a pair of black shoes by the print as well.
• 1:07:43
  They knew that there was it was a tennis shoe and not the
• 1:07:46
  basketball style. So the kind of they were
• 1:07:48
  figuring out what was going on, the size.
• 1:07:51
  How did I forget this? I knew this.
• 1:07:53
  Yeah. Because it's.
• 1:07:54
  Such, it's such a like a piece of evidence, that kind of piece.
• 1:07:57
  This is the one that kind of piece.
• 1:07:58
  So many eh crime scenes together and how they figured out that he
• 1:08:02
  was eh abducting children as well as killing people.
• 1:08:06
  They found this footprint outside like like not outside,
• 1:08:09
  but like inside outside all over.
• 1:08:11
  Like every like this is it's this fucking guy like could not,
• 1:08:16
  he couldn't help himself but stick his fucking foot in places
• 1:08:19
  that we're going to leave a print like mud in concrete, in
• 1:08:23
  blood in so many different places such like wet concrete.
• 1:08:27
  What a dumb fuck. Anyways, just.
• 1:08:29
  Slapping around like yeah. Do pretty do better put my, my
• 1:08:32
  odd like So they ended up figuring out that there was
• 1:08:37
  only, I think six or seven of these pairs that were in 11 1/2
• 1:08:43
  that were even brought in North America.
• 1:08:45
  And there was a bunch of them that there's only one in
• 1:08:49
  California and the rest of them I think were in, uh, Colorado or
• 1:08:53
  fucking one of them places. But there was only one pair sold
• 1:08:57
  in, uh, in California. So they figured out like, this
• 1:09:00
  is him. He's the one, but it kind of
• 1:09:02
  went cold from there. But the cops weren't telling the
• 1:09:05
  public about these shoes because this was this was the main piece
• 1:09:10
  of evidence this stupid fucker kept.
• 1:09:12
  Like this guy who thought he was like so, so clever.
• 1:09:15
  The Night Stalker, he was breaking his place.
• 1:09:17
  He was stalking. He was leaving his fucking
• 1:09:19
  footprint like a fucking cartoon character, like at every crime
• 1:09:22
  scene. But they weren't telling the
• 1:09:25
  public because again, they can figure out if he is the murderer
• 1:09:29
  of the next body if they find this footprint.
• 1:09:32
  But the mayor, she wanted to be some fucking really big balls or
• 1:09:36
  fucking you know, Fenula big flaps and headed on to the news
• 1:09:40
  and she was like we're looking for this guy puts out the
• 1:09:43
  composite sketch of him where we're looking for a guy light
• 1:09:47
  skinned Mexican fucked up tea smells horrendous.
• 1:09:50
  He's tall. He's gaunt.
• 1:09:53
  Black guys like a doll like. These are the runners, and she
• 1:09:57
  specifically says about these fucking runners, and we know
• 1:10:00
  it's him because all so he when he comes back from his little
• 1:10:03
  hiatus away, he sees his face plastered all over the place.
• 1:10:07
  And then he also sees, oh, they know I'm the one doing all this
• 1:10:10
  because of my fucking my, my sneakers, as the Americans would
• 1:10:14
  say. And he just went up to Golden
• 1:10:16
  Gate Bridge and fucked the sneakers off and then went off
• 1:10:18
  and bought himself some new sneakers.
• 1:10:19
  So now. Now I'm invincible.
• 1:10:22
  Yeah, so he can he can go and kind of do what he wants, but
• 1:10:25
  they're kind of were already on to him.
• 1:10:26
  He got stopped by a cop at one stage and he was in a stolen car
• 1:10:31
  as he's one to do. He's not going to buy a fucking
• 1:10:33
  car. But the cops stopped them and he
• 1:10:35
  was only after like, because a couple of these murders, he he
• 1:10:40
  did one. Then a couple of hours later he
• 1:10:42
  was like, oh, I'm going to, I need to go and fucking do
• 1:10:46
  another murder. So it's kind of fucked up.
• 1:10:48
  He got stopped by this cop. And then the cop was like,
• 1:10:52
  license to registration. He gives them a fake name, says
• 1:10:56
  I don't have the registration in this car.
• 1:10:57
  Cop goes, oh, OK. As the cop is talking to him, it
• 1:11:01
  comes over on his radio, says we're looking for this guy.
• 1:11:04
  Here's the description of the guy.
• 1:11:06
  He's out there. He's after committing A horrific
• 1:11:08
  crime. The cop kind of says, hey, this
• 1:11:10
  isn't you by any chance. Like no are.
• 1:11:13
  You murdering people, be honest. Definitely not me officer I I
• 1:11:17
  wouldn't rape a family and then he fucking the as as the cop
• 1:11:22
  like he borders up the cop a little bit.
• 1:11:23
  The cop goes OK, well let me just go check your details here.
• 1:11:26
  Cop turns around, he bolts legs are packed as bags.
• 1:11:29
  He gone so like again, cop had him and then just fucking like
• 1:11:35
  gone in the wind again. Like it's just these bunch of
• 1:11:39
  circumstances that just lead to this guy getting the fuck out
• 1:11:42
  like again and again and again. It's fucking it's kind of like
• 1:11:46
  sometimes it seems like a bit of a fucking clown show.
• 1:11:49
  Yeah, that there's these fucking really well educated cops that
• 1:11:55
  are doing so much up at the top levels, but like then on the
• 1:11:59
  ground level they're doing it's just some incompetence.
• 1:12:03
  And again, Ricky comes off as someone who's like the Night
• 1:12:05
  Stalker. He's he's stalks people in the
• 1:12:08
  night and he's but like he kind of bumbles his way to a lot of
• 1:12:10
  this stuff. There's a lot of sloppiness and.
• 1:12:12
  Yeah, he's not a fucking like, he's not the cap burger like
• 1:12:16
  Jeremy like didn't wear sneakers for sneaking.
• 1:12:20
  Yeah, he wore sneakers for bumbling.
• 1:12:22
  He basically the sneaky sneakers want that sneaky and no, they
• 1:12:27
  weren't kind of led him as I'm going to let you take over to
• 1:12:30
  show how he actually got apprehended there.
• 1:12:33
  But like again, it kind of just shows that.
• 1:12:35
  My favorite part he. Isn't he?
• 1:12:38
  Isn't this fucking powerful, kind of sneaky, clever guy?
• 1:12:42
  He's just kind of some fucking idiot who was an opportunistic
• 1:12:46
  killer. He's just just a guy.
• 1:12:48
  Like, he's literally just a guy. So obviously when he came back
• 1:12:52
  from Arizona, all of the heat was on him.
• 1:12:54
  His picture was everywhere. He steals a fucking car,
• 1:12:59
  basically drives through the wrong neighborhood in East LA,
• 1:13:03
  car craps out on him. He stops to try and fix this
• 1:13:06
  carriage. Like what the fuck is going on?
• 1:13:08
  Someone comes over just to try and be helpful and then he was
• 1:13:12
  just like, you're that fucking guy.
• 1:13:15
  So. This whole group of gang bangers
• 1:13:19
  and again, this is rival gangs, which is the funniest part to
• 1:13:22
  me. They all just knew that he was a
• 1:13:24
  fucking murderer and he was like raping women and children and
• 1:13:28
  like killing people. They all banded together and
• 1:13:31
  they just bet the shit out of this dude and they sat on him
• 1:13:36
  until the cops. Came.
• 1:13:37
  Well, it's. And that's how we got.
• 1:13:39
  Caught. What I love about this is kind
• 1:13:40
  of like it's it's like a Benny Hill sketch.
• 1:13:43
  Really. Like he socks.
• 1:13:45
  He's beat the shit out of him. He legs it, gets on a bus, the
• 1:13:48
  bus stops. People on the bus beat the shit
• 1:13:51
  out of him. He jumps off the bus.
• 1:13:53
  The people who were beating the shit out of him basically.
• 1:13:57
  So now he's got like a bunch of gang bangers, a bunch of people
• 1:14:00
  off the bus, they're all chasing him.
• 1:14:02
  He jumps over a hedge. There's a girl with her car
• 1:14:05
  started. He's like, oh, I'm going to
• 1:14:07
  fucking reef the girl out of the car and I'm going to get into
• 1:14:11
  the car and I'm going to fucking get out with her.
• 1:14:13
  As he's trying to get the girl out of the car, her father is
• 1:14:16
  like just right there and happens to be besides his fence
• 1:14:20
  post. There's a lump of steel in the
• 1:14:24
  fence, but beats the shit out of him with this, with this steel
• 1:14:29
  rod while all the rest of these people are now catching up.
• 1:14:32
  They jump over and they're like right.
• 1:14:33
  We're like they all just join in beating the shit out of them.
• 1:14:36
  Fucking leave them half dead. Hold them down until the police
• 1:14:39
  get there. And when the police gets here,
• 1:14:41
  he's still like, why you beat this dude?
• 1:14:43
  They're like he's Al Matador. He's this fucking killer.
• 1:14:45
  Like they're all these Hispanic people like Al Matador, Al
• 1:14:48
  Matador pointing at each other so that they're all like every
• 1:14:52
  time he comes in contact with someone has they're shouting on
• 1:14:54
  that or he gets the shit kicked out and just a little bit more.
• 1:14:57
  And by the time the cop gets there, he's only recognizable to
• 1:14:59
  the cop because the cop was like why are you beating the shit out
• 1:15:01
  of? The faces.
• 1:15:02
  They're like beaten, Yeah, this is the guy who fucking who,
• 1:15:06
  who's after committing these fucking horrible crimes?
• 1:15:08
  These people end up getting like a especially the guy with the
• 1:15:12
  fucking with the steel bar. He he gets like a Medal of
• 1:15:16
  Honor, like you. Know I was going to say yeah, he
• 1:15:19
  did, didn't. He the orders even a trial, he's
• 1:15:21
  getting like the fucking Medal of Honor.
• 1:15:23
  That actually works out in Ricky's favor a little bit
• 1:15:25
  because like his lawyer is able to say like he was found guilty
• 1:15:28
  before, like he even got a fair trial because these people are
• 1:15:31
  getting medals for taking down him before he can get a trial.
• 1:15:34
  But anyway, like that doesn't matter.
• 1:15:36
  He was banged the rights no matter what he was going to do
• 1:15:39
  like he was he was already done for so many murders that like he
• 1:15:43
  was going to end up doing the fucking penalty anyways.
• 1:15:45
  So like, it didn't matter if he was caught for three murders or
• 1:15:48
  13 murders or like who God knows how many he actually did fucking
• 1:15:52
  kill, but. Probably a lot more and we know
• 1:15:56
  and that's that is devastating. But yeah, these people landed
• 1:15:59
  together like the community got them.
• 1:16:02
  I love that. That's heartwarming to me.
• 1:16:05
  That's like a real neighborly community story.
• 1:16:08
  And it's like, yeah, like we all like, might hate each other, but
• 1:16:12
  we got together and we took on this one evil that was worse
• 1:16:15
  than both of us. Like, do you know what I mean?
• 1:16:17
  I do. I, I really love that warm, the
• 1:16:19
  cold cockles of my heart. But so the trial lasted over 4
• 1:16:24
  years, which is fucking crazy. Which is one of, uh,
• 1:16:28
  California's, uh, most expensive trials ever.
• 1:16:31
  Basically, Ramirez showed no remorse.
• 1:16:36
  The whole time he was laughing, he was smiling.
• 1:16:40
  He had drawn a fucking pentagram on his palm in court with just
• 1:16:44
  this, like edgy teenager fuck you, he'll say just, and he
• 1:16:50
  would frequently just yell out hail Satan.
• 1:16:52
  And then another one of his quotes would be big deal.
• 1:16:56
  Death always comes with the territory.
• 1:16:58
  I'll see you in Disneyland. Yeah, real edgy.
• 1:17:01
  Kill yourself. Like real, real, real edgy stuff
• 1:17:03
  like, but like at that stage it's easy.
• 1:17:05
  It's easy to act hard when like you know the the end was was
• 1:17:11
  already after getting you like. Exactly.
• 1:17:12
  But then again, it's so you hear him say that kind of shit and
• 1:17:15
  then the courtroom footage and like knowing that he obviously
• 1:17:19
  like he couldn't have been on any drugs because he was
• 1:17:20
  incarcerated. The eyes are still just.
• 1:17:23
  Yeah, yeah. And there's no remorse.
• 1:17:25
  And it's like you see certain people like, and this is I'm
• 1:17:29
  absolutely in in no way apologizing for a murder at any
• 1:17:34
  point. But if you see the likes of like
• 1:17:36
  Dahmer, even who fully admitted he had done wrong, wasn't trying
• 1:17:42
  to argue with anyone, tried to get the death penalty and they
• 1:17:46
  wouldn't give it to him. But you can tell that I get the
• 1:17:48
  heads down the whole time. He's just.
• 1:17:50
  Like Ramirez? No, I think Ramirez did ask for
• 1:17:53
  the death penalty. Like he also said to the cop,
• 1:17:56
  shoot me. Why didn't you shoot me?
• 1:17:58
  Why didn't you shoot me? I think that he kind of thought
• 1:18:01
  that things were going to end. He he, I think he thought he was
• 1:18:03
  going to Billy the Kid or like your Blazer glory, this kind of
• 1:18:06
  thing where. Oh, yeah.
• 1:18:08
  Like I thought he because again, it wasn't all that calculated,
• 1:18:12
  like we're saying, like it was kind of a little bit sloppy what
• 1:18:14
  he was doing. And I think he did think he was
• 1:18:17
  just doing what he could do while he could do it.
• 1:18:19
  And he didn't know he was going to get away with it for so long
• 1:18:22
  because he bumbled his way into kind of this, like the next
• 1:18:25
  murder into the next murder into the next murder.
• 1:18:27
  And I think he taught that he was going to be shot dead at
• 1:18:30
  some stage. So when he got to court, he was
• 1:18:33
  like, yeah, because he was like, fucking.
• 1:18:35
  I want the death penalty until he was kind of in prison.
• 1:18:39
  He did get the death penalty. He just.
• 1:18:41
  Did got the death penalty, but he also appealed it.
• 1:18:44
  Well, he got he got in and realized like, oh, when I'm in
• 1:18:46
  here, he kind of got the shits up on man and he was like, oh, I
• 1:18:49
  can appeal this that I can get life in prison instead.
• 1:18:51
  Like, well, he was 23 years on that role.
• 1:18:55
  Am I right about that? 23 Yep, 13 murders, 5 attempted
• 1:19:00
  murders, 11 sexual assaults, 14 burglaries, sentenced to death
• 1:19:03
  but never executed because obviously he he passed away.
• 1:19:06
  I was on death row and I just want to talk a little bit about
• 1:19:11
  his groupies. I was going to say, Hey, are you
• 1:19:13
  going to get into the marriage? Because that's that's the.
• 1:19:16
  Fucking, oh God, a lot of fucking groupies, which I don't
• 1:19:21
  understand, right? Like so OK, you know anything
• 1:19:24
  about me? I love missing teeth in the man,
• 1:19:29
  right? That's it's just a little little
• 1:19:32
  bit of a kink of mine. Just hockey players.
• 1:19:34
  They're usually missing a couple teeth.
• 1:19:36
  Hottest thing ever to me. Not from fucking poor hygiene or
• 1:19:41
  crack. Like this man's teeth were
• 1:19:45
  rotting in his head. They were still there, but they
• 1:19:47
  were rotting in his head, right? His eyes were black, he didn't
• 1:19:52
  wash himself. And it's just like, how can you
• 1:19:56
  find this man attractive? I can see your missing teeth.
• 1:19:59
  I can see. Them funny enough, there's
• 1:20:01
  there's no, there's no great story.
• 1:20:04
  That was a baby tooth that ended up getting pushed out by the
• 1:20:08
  never girl. It was in my head until I was
• 1:20:10
  like in my 30s. That one there is kind of a
• 1:20:13
  little bit more badass because I got kicked.
• 1:20:15
  It broke when I was wrestling and then it ended up starting to
• 1:20:18
  get sore. So I got a player and I pulled
• 1:20:20
  it out myself, but I exposed I exposed a nerve.
• 1:20:24
  So I was in pain for like 6 weeks until the nerve didn't,
• 1:20:28
  but that's kind of cool I didn't.
• 1:20:30
  Go to the dentist. Yeah, like, you know, fucking
• 1:20:34
  paying that can't to tell me that he's I need a root canal.
• 1:20:36
  When I could, I had a players in my fucking tool bag.
• 1:20:38
  I could just pull it out. I was fucking a hockey goalie
• 1:20:41
  for a while and he took a poke to the mouth and he lost like
• 1:20:47
  the front four of his team. And he had like, the, the clip,
• 1:20:52
  like the false teeth and stuff, whatever.
• 1:20:55
  And I used to be like, no, leave it out.
• 1:20:57
  Anyway, So, yeah, had groupies. Ramirez received love letters,
• 1:21:03
  fan mail and even married one of his biggest admirers, Doreen
• 1:21:08
  Leo, in 1996. She said he was kind and
• 1:21:12
  misunderstood. Bitch, fuck you.
• 1:21:14
  Where? Like what the fuck?
• 1:21:17
  Like that baffles me. So I don't know if you've heard
• 1:21:20
  of Star Manson. I I can assume who she marries.
• 1:21:26
  She is my idol, right? So basically she was romancing
• 1:21:31
  Charles. For romancing.
• 1:21:33
  A long, long time romancing him. She was like he got like
• 1:21:39
  conjugal visits and stuff with her and like just whatever.
• 1:21:42
  But every time she came to see him, she couldn't drive.
• 1:21:46
  So her brother would drive her. So her brother was always there,
• 1:21:49
  right? And he would like wait around
• 1:21:52
  outside whatever. They got married.
• 1:21:55
  He Charles started being like, okay, can you come and see me?
• 1:21:58
  Like maybe without your brother at some.
• 1:21:59
  Point I was never and. She was like, well, I don't.
• 1:22:01
  I would never drive my sister get the back bet offer by a
• 1:22:04
  fucking serial killer. Yeah.
• 1:22:06
  Prolific. Well, he didn't.
• 1:22:08
  He didn't kill. Anyone.
• 1:22:09
  Yeah, okay, yeah. Yeah.
• 1:22:11
  Sorry. Sorry Charles.
• 1:22:12
  So sorry I forgot that you only incited murder.
• 1:22:16
  RIP babes. But yeah, so like, he was like,
• 1:22:19
  oh, like, I really wish you'd come see me with your brother.
• 1:22:21
  She's like, well, I don't drive. And she got like really weird.
• 1:22:23
  Did the brother sit in the cook chair?
• 1:22:25
  I'll get to it. So she was just like, oh, like
• 1:22:29
  I, I don't drive like, I don't, you know, whatever.
• 1:22:32
  And he was just like, OK, yeah, that babe, that's fine.
• 1:22:34
  And then they were having like another visit.
• 1:22:38
  It wasn't a conjugal visit because I think a conjugal visit
• 1:22:40
  was only like everyone once every certain time.
• 1:22:43
  But they were sat there and across the table from Charles
• 1:22:48
  and he had like gotten whatever status.
• 1:22:51
  It was like he didn't have to be coughed when he was he there for
• 1:22:54
  so long and he was non violent and whatever.
• 1:22:57
  And she went to the bathroom and he caught her brother by the
• 1:23:02
  scruff of his neck. And he's like, tell me what the
• 1:23:05
  fuck is going on? Why are you always here?
• 1:23:07
  He was actually her boyfriend. And she and she married, Yeah,
• 1:23:13
  she married Manson so that when he died, the body got released
• 1:23:17
  to her and she could tour him around the world.
• 1:23:22
  I was like, girl, legend, queen, slave.
• 1:23:25
  That's clever. Boots.
• 1:23:26
  The house. Boots down that house.
• 1:23:30
  Her name was ** Manson. And I'm like legend and but he
• 1:23:34
  obviously was too fucking smart for it and divorced her before
• 1:23:37
  that could happen. So now I don't know who has his
• 1:23:39
  body but I wish it was *. I was like get your money girl.
• 1:23:43
  Like my my sexy crazy stripper wife.
• 1:23:48
  What? So.
• 1:23:50
  What would all you have to do in my life for someone to be like?
• 1:23:54
  I want to tour your body around. Kill a bunch of people.
• 1:23:59
  It's it, you can't be famous. You're going to have to be
• 1:24:01
  infamous at that stage. It's going to have to be like,
• 1:24:03
  you're going to have a notorious person for that kind of shit
• 1:24:06
  that happened. And that's the thing I think, I
• 1:24:08
  think both of us are too annoying to have a cult.
• 1:24:11
  So I don't think that we would get.
• 1:24:13
  That I told you I already had a cult.
• 1:24:15
  It was AB ball cult but still accounts.
• 1:24:17
  Oh yeah, you just, I mean I used to get people like being like,
• 1:24:19
  when are you going to start knowing fans?
• 1:24:21
  Where is your only fans? Give me your only fans.
• 1:24:23
  I will pay X amount of money for your only fans.
• 1:24:26
  I was like then when my nudes got leaked and they were like Oh
• 1:24:29
  my God. If she hadn't only fans I would
• 1:24:31
  give her so much money. I'm like, just give me the money
• 1:24:33
  anyway. You lose her.
• 1:24:35
  Actually you could probably still get people to give you
• 1:24:37
  money without slip in the nudes. Oh, I do.
• 1:24:39
  Oh what? Did you get allowed to spiff all
• 1:24:41
  over his face or he paid you to watch him spiffing on?
• 1:24:45
  Fuck. Yeah, you did discuss that one.
• 1:24:47
  I did. Oh, it must have been a deleted
• 1:24:50
  episode, but yeah, so I did a money.
• 1:24:53
  Was not the last episode. Was this?
• 1:24:55
  I don't know. I don't.
• 1:24:57
  Know which ones are deleted. If it wasn't if if this got
• 1:25:01
  deleted, then you're hearing the story for the second time, and I
• 1:25:03
  apologize, but I didn't. Oh, I.
• 1:25:05
  Forgot we haven't. We haven't even fucking gone
• 1:25:08
  there any of the sponsors today. Oh shit, yeah, we've got.
• 1:25:10
  Sponsors, hold on. Today's episode is brought to
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  you by the Mandela Effect. No it isn't.
• 1:25:16
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  checking. Your mind is a liar.
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  And we thank the Mandela Effect for never sponsoring this
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  podcast. OK, back to.
• 1:25:33
  Thank you to. Very meta.
• 1:25:35
  The Bernstein Bears. But yeah, if you if you haven't
• 1:25:40
  heard this story, if it is the one that got deleted, I'm sorry
• 1:25:43
  for telling it again, but we just don't know where we are
• 1:25:45
  anymore. Next week we will start fresh.
• 1:25:47
  It's fine, don't worry. But I did a little money spell
• 1:25:51
  because I needed some fast cash, and it came in the form of a
• 1:25:56
  paying me 150 of the King's pounds to watch him fold himself
• 1:26:01
  up like a pretzel and cum in his own mouth, slash on his face so.
• 1:26:07
  That's £150 I ever spent. Dude like literally so I got my
• 1:26:11
  hair done today because of it. Can you see?
• 1:26:13
  It's like nice and curly but I so diagnosed with Ricky.
• 1:26:18
  We're back to Ricky. Yeah, we have to we.
• 1:26:21
  Grasped over that. I mean, like to be fair, we
• 1:26:22
  didn't really waffle that much at the start, which is what we.
• 1:26:26
  Usually do and that's. What it takes us like.
• 1:26:28
  Yeah, no, we're going. All right.
• 1:26:31
  Got right. Let's go back onto Ricky, then.
• 1:26:33
  Because it's because you made me feel really bad, because you're
• 1:26:36
  like, I'm an early riser and I'm like.
• 1:26:38
  I don't mind, it is what it is. I'm not quoting, I think you
• 1:26:43
  should leave right now so it's fine.
• 1:26:44
  So he was diagnosed with schizoid personality disorder,
• 1:26:49
  possible possible antisocial personality disorder, and a high
• 1:26:55
  likelihood of psychopathy mixed with delusions tied to his
• 1:26:59
  satanic obsessions. His major themes are power and
• 1:27:04
  control, sexual sadism, ritual behavior, but not methodical
• 1:27:09
  like Bundy. UMM Ramirez was basically chaos
• 1:27:14
  Incarnate. Like we had said earlier, there
• 1:27:17
  was no method, there was nothing.
• 1:27:19
  That's all of my notes, so if you have anything.
• 1:27:22
  No, like you've not. Your notes are spot on.
• 1:27:24
  Like I like, I like the way we do things because like your
• 1:27:26
  notes kind of trigger stuff with me and I'm like, Oh yeah, this
• 1:27:29
  reminds me of this kind of stuff.
• 1:27:31
  So I think we. I think I do.
• 1:27:33
  I do the spine and I think you do a good job of like branching
• 1:27:37
  off. On that, yeah, yeah, I like that
• 1:27:39
  kind of I like this I yeah, I think we found our groove.
• 1:27:45
  We found a couple of episodes, but they're lost as well.
• 1:27:48
  No, but we. Oh, guys, like, no, to be fair,
• 1:27:51
  right? I am kind of glad that Achmed
• 1:27:55
  Maloney's episode. Oh.
• 1:27:57
  Yeah, that's a whole thing we can get back.
• 1:28:00
  If anyone wants to know the story of Achmed, that'll
• 1:28:03
  probably go on a Patreon at some.
• 1:28:07
  Stage Achmed Maloney, The Ballad of Achmed Maloney and we will do
• 1:28:12
  a Patreon episode for you if you want to.
• 1:28:14
  I'll set that up. Actually I'm drunk right now so
• 1:28:16
  I will set. That up No one's paying for this
• 1:28:18
  and no one, no one is listening to this for free.
• 1:28:22
  A pound a month and you get a picture of my tits and a weird
• 1:28:29
  conversation. OK.
• 1:28:31
  There we go. I'll.
• 1:28:33
  Send you a picture of my tits as well.
• 1:28:35
  They're massive and. If you send $0.50 you get one
• 1:28:38
  tits and and a story so but not the good one, you get the bad
• 1:28:49
  tits. To put a pain in Ricky here, I
• 1:28:52
  suppose. And this, this whole kind of
• 1:28:55
  figuring out like all his kind of, uh, his psychopathy and like
• 1:29:00
  the way he, like his, his brain, his silly, his silly, stupid
• 1:29:04
  brain that made him do all these kind of things.
• 1:29:06
  Do you reckon that it was just innately in him to be evil?
• 1:29:11
  Or do you think that like the kind of again, it's it's been a
• 1:29:15
  while since we talked about the start, but these this kind of
• 1:29:18
  tumbling of events, these people that he met, these fucking brain
• 1:29:21
  injuries, this toxic womb of his mother.
• 1:29:23
  Like does this kind, does this stuff all kind of lean into it?
• 1:29:26
  Or do you think like he was just born with evil in him and this
• 1:29:31
  kind of stuff was drawn towards? Him I think you have to be born
• 1:29:35
  in into that kind of like, I mean when you see people like so
• 1:29:41
  say like Bundy and stuff like that, who always had like a
• 1:29:44
  fascination with like taxidermy and things in our nation, just
• 1:29:47
  like the inside of how things work.
• 1:29:49
  All those people go on to be like surgeons and you know what
• 1:29:52
  I mean? Things like.
• 1:29:53
  That I never thought about that. I always I always just pictured
• 1:29:56
  people just becoming serial killers.
• 1:29:57
  But like the surgeon thing kind of makes a lot of.
• 1:29:59
  Sense yeah, so like I, umm, I had a good friend before he was
• 1:30:02
  like one of the only guys that got like 600 and leave insert
• 1:30:05
  kind of thing and he went on to become a surgeon.
• 1:30:07
  He went to AS at the Trinity Royal College Surgeon.
• 1:30:10
  The only Yeah, the Royal College.
• 1:30:12
  Surgeon College. Yeah, there's something colleges
• 1:30:15
  of surgeons. I went to a went to the 21st
• 1:30:17
  there before they have a building.
• 1:30:20
  Oh yeah, yeah, they have a building where they like do as
• 1:30:23
  their fanciest I ever was. And one of my friends was going
• 1:30:27
  out with a very rich girl. The Trinity ball.
• 1:30:30
  It was in the same building that they do, I think, the Trinity
• 1:30:33
  Ball. So it's like the Royal College
• 1:30:35
  of Surgeons, something like that.
• 1:30:36
  Yeah. Well, very fancy dinner.
• 1:30:38
  And then there was like after the fancy dinner, it was just
• 1:30:42
  like any other 21st. But all the people in there were
• 1:30:44
  very rich, but like the wrestler that was going out with this
• 1:30:47
  rich girl, his his friends were like me, bunch of guys from
• 1:30:51
  Finglas, like fucking the like the roughest lads that shouldn't
• 1:30:55
  have been there. Yeah, it was an experience to be
• 1:30:57
  in there. But yeah, I don't know why I
• 1:30:59
  went on this. Tangent it is.
• 1:31:00
  It is meant. But yeah, your friend ended up
• 1:31:03
  being a surgeon. Yeah, and it's and so like it's,
• 1:31:05
  it's a thing. So he was always like a weird
• 1:31:09
  guy, but not like a red flaggy guy at all.
• 1:31:13
  Like he wasn't a fucking murderer or whatever.
• 1:31:17
  And it's like, if you see, So I went to an exhibition.
• 1:31:21
  I think it's still pouring around the world, the Bodies
• 1:31:23
  exhibition. If you've heard of it or a bunch
• 1:31:25
  of Chinese lads not at this, sign their bodies to this
• 1:31:28
  fucking. Yeah, like they're Chinese
• 1:31:31
  prisoners essentially is what it was.
• 1:31:33
  And but like the whole cover was, oh, they sold their body to
• 1:31:36
  Earth. Yeah, that was in the
• 1:31:38
  ambassador, wasn't. It.
• 1:31:40
  Yeah, I saw it in New York, but it tours all the way around the
• 1:31:44
  place. And yeah.
• 1:31:46
  Yeah. Yeah, and it's things like, see,
• 1:31:49
  like, so they'll do like, obviously a bunch of fucking
• 1:31:52
  things, but there's one exhibit and it's like just the veins.
• 1:31:57
  Of a. Human body and it's perfectly
• 1:32:00
  preserved. It's just like stuff like this.
• 1:32:02
  And I do find that so interesting and like, it's
• 1:32:06
  mental. And I remember, like, talking to
• 1:32:07
  my friend, not going to name them.
• 1:32:09
  We'll say like Gary is his name or whatever.
• 1:32:12
  I mean, how can he, like, do it? Like, is it not terrifying?
• 1:32:15
  Like, do you think like, you can kill someone?
• 1:32:17
  And he was like, well, no, he was like, you just kind of look
• 1:32:19
  at it like you're a mechanic. I was going to say, like you'd
• 1:32:21
  be looking at it like an engine like that, yeah.
• 1:32:25
  Yeah. And he was like, the machine is
• 1:32:27
  like, you know, she's not working for whatever reason.
• 1:32:30
  So we have to go in and do this and this.
• 1:32:31
  And he's like, it's no different.
• 1:32:33
  And he's like, you just have to learn to not like put your
• 1:32:36
  feelings about it. And I remember like, so I only
• 1:32:39
  had two operations in my life. The first one was like tonsils,
• 1:32:42
  which doesn't count. And then I had like my
• 1:32:43
  gallbladder, which was keyhole surgery, very simple.
• 1:32:46
  But I remember going down and I was, I was being wheeled down to
• 1:32:50
  get like anesthesia and stuff. And there was just a guy just
• 1:32:53
  throwing a tennis ball against the wall just over and over
• 1:32:57
  again. And I was like, and I said to
• 1:33:00
  him and he's like, yeah, you warm up your hands.
• 1:33:02
  Your hands have to keep going like, you know, like things like
• 1:33:04
  that. And he say it's no difference
• 1:33:06
  from like when someone's doing sports and they're like warming
• 1:33:09
  up and they're doing stretching and things like that.
• 1:33:11
  And I was just like, but it's just you can have like a morbid
• 1:33:15
  fascination with like blood and guts and not go down that route.
• 1:33:21
  You, I think you have to just have it in you to want to
• 1:33:25
  inflict the pain to see those. Things it's like I, I never
• 1:33:30
  became a gynecologist. I just became a sex pest, even
• 1:33:33
  though that's what, that's what I was obsessed with.
• 1:33:36
  Like, oh. Dude, vaginas scare me anyway.
• 1:33:40
  Like I don't like. Vaginas.
• 1:33:42
  I always scare me. You're wrong.
• 1:33:43
  I'm they're fantastic. I I love it.
• 1:33:48
  It's not that I love a new one. I love, I love figuring out the
• 1:33:51
  the one, though, you know what I mean?
• 1:33:53
  It's it's like, it's not that I want to, I want to find many of
• 1:33:56
  them, but you know when like it's I described this to some
• 1:34:00
  people there a while back. There was a vagina that I came
• 1:34:05
  in contact with a little while ago and it was attached to a
• 1:34:10
  lovely woman. But you know, like you get the
• 1:34:13
  new vagina and it's like, oh fuck, like I'm used to
• 1:34:15
  PlayStation. This is fucking Xbox.
• 1:34:17
  What are all the buttons doing? But there was.
• 1:34:20
  It's like getting like a new pair of shoes and the backs of
• 1:34:22
  them always hit off the stairs when you're walking down.
• 1:34:27
  I don't get that metaphor. My metaphor is that I know what
• 1:34:31
  all the buttons do with me. So like so this particular
• 1:34:37
  vagina attached to this very lovely lady was just like
• 1:34:42
  picking up a PlayStation one joypad and I knew every I knew
• 1:34:46
  what the buttons did. I could get or I could get
• 1:34:49
  spiral into that cave. I could just fucking.
• 1:34:51
  I could, you know what I mean? I knew.
• 1:34:53
  I knew what was double. Catch that beat like and that's
• 1:34:57
  the orgasm and you're like, right you?
• 1:35:01
  I knew which button was dribble and which one was shoot.
• 1:35:04
  I knew. I knew them all.
• 1:35:05
  You know, I knew and it was it's just perfect.
• 1:35:10
  So like, you know, like when you get when you get a new vagina
• 1:35:14
  and it's got a new configuration and you have to kind of figure
• 1:35:17
  it out and it's. Configurate.
• 1:35:19
  So it's, you know, you have to, but that's that's that's the
• 1:35:22
  beauty of the vagina nanny. There's like there's no one
• 1:35:26
  that's like, look, I'm not going to tell you is that you just
• 1:35:30
  have an easy job, but like a fucking no matter what size it
• 1:35:34
  is, right? You know you give a few.
• 1:35:36
  Oh yeah, no, I agree with. The shotgun Yeah, give a few
• 1:35:39
  pumps and close your eyes and hope for the.
• 1:35:40
  Best and like, I think cut or uncut, it's all the same.
• 1:35:45
  And I went through like a weird thing.
• 1:35:46
  So I lost my virginity to a guy who was cut.
• 1:35:49
  So when I first saw my like when I saw my first uncut one, I was
• 1:35:53
  like, what's wrong with you? I was like, why does it have a
• 1:35:56
  fucking hoodie? I was like, genuinely, yeah.
• 1:35:59
  So I was a bit of a prude until I turned like 17 and first time
• 1:36:03
  I did anything like Dick stuff was with the guy I lost my
• 1:36:05
  virginity to. I was a bit of a prude until I
• 1:36:08
  was almost an adult. OK, Danny.
• 1:36:12
  I know like what you mean I'm not, but I was just with him for
• 1:36:16
  like 2 years right. So I was 19 before like I saw
• 1:36:21
  like I guess my my next one also Kush.
• 1:36:25
  So for me seeing an uncut guy was like what the fuck is wrong
• 1:36:29
  with it? Why is it doing that?
• 1:36:31
  Why is it like is it OK? Is it mad at me?
• 1:36:34
  Like that was that was my whole thing.
• 1:36:36
  I mean, like I've gone down a few girls, but I've never seen
• 1:36:39
  any ones that I've been like, what is wrong with you?
• 1:36:42
  Should I take you to the hospital like?
• 1:36:45
  I don't, I don't right, I'm gonna I'm gonna just say here
• 1:36:48
  I've seen a lot more vaginas than people would imagine by the
• 1:36:51
  look of me. So I rogue, I fucking.
• 1:36:56
  Shut up, you're very hand. Thanks very much.
• 1:36:59
  You're seeing me from the neck up and I have.
• 1:37:02
  I've literally seen you half naked wrestling.
• 1:37:05
  Yeah, that's true as well. So then you know the problem I
• 1:37:07
  have and but I I have talked a lot of knickers down.
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  So I've seen, I've seen a few I've I've probably felt more
• 1:37:14
  than this. Is no longer a true crime
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  podcast, by the way. Just a.
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  Little talk. P and VG.
• 1:37:22
  General genitals, yeah, but like.
• 1:37:25
  For the most part, most most vaginas are nice, neat little
• 1:37:29
  things like it's it's great. Most of the ones I've been
• 1:37:32
  anywhere near anyways. And if you're listening to this
• 1:37:34
  and you've been affected by Ducky's penis at any stage,
• 1:37:37
  contacts. I have to say I'm like the
• 1:37:40
  furthest the furthest person to body shame.
• 1:37:43
  But have you seen Bonnie Blues Vagina?
• 1:37:45
  No, I can imagine it. Fucking.
• 1:37:48
  Google it right now. I'm probably not going to.
• 1:37:51
  I'm probably not going. To do no, I need to get your
• 1:37:53
  reaction on on this. Google it right now.
• 1:37:55
  Yeah, and I need you to the. Worst thing at Google today, I
• 1:37:58
  suppose. Just fill this time with a
• 1:38:00
  little bit of something there. Any.
• 1:38:09
  I got sort of attractive. I played Google into Google.
• 1:38:13
  A hand came out and slapped me in the face.
• 1:38:15
  What am I doing, Bonnie? Bonnie Blue's pussy.
• 1:38:22
  I'm probably not going to say. It's actually scary.
• 1:38:24
  Vagina just because I don't want Google to and I'm going to hit.
• 1:38:27
  I'm respectful to even if they are Bonnie blue.
• 1:38:33
  Like Google's not giving me. You actually might have to.
• 1:38:36
  Her images. Yeah, you might have to just go
• 1:38:38
  on to Pornhub and then put her name.
• 1:38:40
  In I don't want to go on to Pornhub to do it.
• 1:38:43
  Do it. Do it.
• 1:38:45
  You need to know. The world needs to know.
• 1:38:48
  And it adds to the fact that people think she used to be a
• 1:38:50
  man because it just looks like it's.
• 1:38:54
  Yes, I am older than you, and yes, I do like cookies and oh
• 1:38:58
  mother of God, that's a that's graphic.
• 1:39:03
  Sure, first thing is like stepmom.
• 1:39:06
  Again, not the most graphic thing I've seen, but Bonnie
• 1:39:08
  Blue, I can't believe you're making me do this.
• 1:39:10
  Just put in Bonnie blue. And related to me and you're
• 1:39:13
  listening to this right now. I'm sorry.
• 1:39:18
  I'm the she devil. Oh yeah, OK, that's that's why
• 1:39:23
  it's set. It's not even, it's just.
• 1:39:25
  I don't understand. I can skip this ad in three
• 1:39:28
  seconds. Skip it hot milfs near you now
• 1:39:34
  it. Was a poker ass.
• 1:39:36
  I don't care. I know you hate her.
• 1:39:37
  You're not a good looking woman. No she's gorgeous like that's
• 1:39:40
  not that's not my thing. I just I hate her because she
• 1:39:45
  just is literally setting like and again I have no issue with
• 1:39:48
  people doing porn more power to you whatever.
• 1:39:51
  But it's the fact that she's a predator and she prefers girl
• 1:39:54
  like guys and girls that are barely 18.
• 1:39:59
  Your face just says. No, it's I'm not like again, I
• 1:40:02
  don't mind. I like it.
• 1:40:03
  She's got a, she's got a big clip, but I like a big clip.
• 1:40:06
  She's got a whole fucking bulge. She's look like a mini a mini
• 1:40:11
  peens, but the answer jet I was I was into China, so.
• 1:40:17
  I was literally going to say I was like, well, we all love
• 1:40:20
  China, so yeah, I get it. Yeah, Sunny is.
• 1:40:22
  We never got back to like a. Got way off shopping.
• 1:40:25
  We never hooded our own hooded. Is that what's what's the what's
• 1:40:28
  what's your favorite? Most girls would say own own
• 1:40:34
  boy. It doesn't.
• 1:40:35
  I've been a sly trap. Yeah, I've, I'm, I'm
• 1:40:41
  uncircumcised, ladies, just so you know, just so you know what
• 1:40:44
  you're getting yourself into and what.
• 1:40:46
  Little turtleneck. Actually no, But what was again
• 1:40:49
  once once erect? Little Matthew McConaughey in
• 1:40:52
  the holiday. Very good, but my I've been
• 1:40:56
  working on a circumcision over years due to erosion because I
• 1:41:00
  can't leave it alone. But what has happened that way
• 1:41:04
  used to look like a wet sock. You know, like that it would be
• 1:41:06
  killed me. But now it looks like a now it
• 1:41:11
  kind of looks like a dormant volcano.
• 1:41:14
  And actually it kind of looks like it's in the raft.
• 1:41:16
  It it looks my cock looks like it has a ski mask on.
• 1:41:20
  It looks like it's telling you to put the money in the in the
• 1:41:22
  register, which is weird. It's not the kind of vibe you
• 1:41:26
  want a penis to be given off. Like you don't want it to look
• 1:41:30
  like it's about to it's about to perform a violent crime.
• 1:41:32
  It's Yeah. But again, so I will, I will
• 1:41:37
  tell you ladies, it is a very in effect.
• 1:41:41
  It's not, it's not a harmful penis.
• 1:41:43
  It only means well. So if if there's anyone out
• 1:41:46
  there. This is now a dating story.
• 1:41:55
  Me and my penis. Well, I have to.
• 1:41:57
  Tell you this story. The guy I lost my virginity to
• 1:42:00
  how he ended up having to get circumstanced.
• 1:42:05
  So basically he was like 9 years old or something and he was like
• 1:42:13
  at some family thing and I know this it just sounds like
• 1:42:18
  automatically bad but his uncle was chasing.
• 1:42:21
  Well, yeah. It's like he was just like
• 1:42:27
  acting, acting the black guy with his uncle basically.
• 1:42:29
  And he was like chasing him and then he was running away and
• 1:42:32
  then his granddad like put his foot out and then tripped him.
• 1:42:36
  But he fell. I don't know what way he fell,
• 1:42:39
  but he tore the head of his cock and had to go to hospital.
• 1:42:43
  Snagged this, snagged his foreskin on the corner of the
• 1:42:45
  table. I don't know what the fuck
• 1:42:46
  happened. And then he like had to go to
• 1:42:48
  hospital and then apparently he was like screaming in his sleep
• 1:42:52
  and stuff because they had to just just just snip it off and
• 1:42:57
  and let it heal. And he had like a big Harry
• 1:42:59
  Potter scar down his face. Nice, yeah.
• 1:43:03
  Yeah. Cock that lived.
• 1:43:06
  Yeah, and then the guy that like the next guy that I got with and
• 1:43:10
  I'm like, I'm going to shit all over this dude because fuck this
• 1:43:12
  dude it's fine. So this is like my first ever
• 1:43:14
  like long term boyfriend was like 4 years and he had to get
• 1:43:21
  circumcised just because he didn't wash.
• 1:43:24
  Right. Yeah.
• 1:43:25
  And the the the cheese was cheesing, the build up was
• 1:43:31
  building up. Yeah.
• 1:43:33
  And they had to like he had to go and get it like snipped.
• 1:43:36
  Still had 10 terrible hygiene when I was.
• 1:43:39
  I just remember you. I'm not sure if this is a is the
• 1:43:43
  same guy, but I just I do remember you not.
• 1:43:45
  The same guy? No, no, he was actually very.
• 1:43:48
  He was just a fucking idiot. He was actually very clean.
• 1:43:51
  He wasn't. Well, he looked like a rat face.
• 1:43:53
  Little fucking. Oh, he did.
• 1:43:55
  Jesus Christ. And the amount of people who
• 1:43:57
  would say that to me and I'm like, yeah, well, I love him.
• 1:44:01
  But yeah, no, he was like a fucking like overly hygienic,
• 1:44:04
  which you fine, like just cared so much about his looks.
• 1:44:07
  For someone so ugly to care so much about their looks.
• 1:44:10
  Fine, OK. But yeah, he was like, I love
• 1:44:15
  that you call him a rough. He didn't outwardly present us
• 1:44:18
  as someone who who cared about their looks.
• 1:44:21
  Nobody told me that everybody hated him until we were.
• 1:44:26
  I didn't know him, I just knew the head of him.
• 1:44:29
  I just remember thinking like really I.
• 1:44:32
  Remember my friend saying to me before and he was, she was just
• 1:44:34
  like after I was after he broke up and everything.
• 1:44:37
  And she was just like, it's just so funny to me that like he'd go
• 1:44:40
  up and get pictures with these wrestlers, then you'd go back to
• 1:44:44
  those wrestlers hotel like, well, let's set it out.
• 1:44:50
  That the better. Actually, no.
• 1:44:56
  I'll tell you this next story off off camera because it's
• 1:44:59
  it's, yeah. We've hit two hours.
• 1:45:03
  We may do where we can go now. That was, that was.
• 1:45:07
  Take this in a patriot. An hour and a half of a murder,
• 1:45:10
  death, kill with Ricky Ramirez and then 30 minutes of us
• 1:45:14
  talking about our genitalia, which is.
• 1:45:19
  You're welcome. You're welcome, Dublin.
• 1:45:24
  Actually, mostly America. I don't know if I shared the
• 1:45:26
  stats with you. We have a lot of North
• 1:45:28
  Americans. Oh, it's Americans and
• 1:45:31
  Canadians. Because hockey.
• 1:45:33
  Oh, OK. Looks like most of my my
• 1:45:35
  demographic. A bunch of hosers, eh?
• 1:45:39
  But yeah. So this is episode 2.
• 1:45:43
  Maybe fucking six. We don't know.
• 1:45:46
  Yeah, we don't. Know we don't know anymore
• 1:45:49
  We'll, we'll start right. But at least on this one, we
• 1:45:51
  didn't have to cut it and flip it into two parts.
• 1:45:55
  How do we know I? Alex is going to call half of
• 1:45:59
  this so. So that was an episode about the
• 1:46:07
  Night Stalker, eh? Ricardo Ramirez, and I hope you
• 1:46:12
  write this there. Is literally going to say
• 1:46:14
  Ricardo Ramirez. You just got like that's.
• 1:46:16
  We're so In Sync. We got it.
• 1:46:20
  But yeah, that was that was it. Yeah.
• 1:46:22
  We hope you enjoyed listening to this.
• 1:46:24
  And it started off with some hocus pocus and it really
• 1:46:28
  finished off with a lack of focus, which.
• 1:46:31
  Lack of focus is. Exactly how this is probably
• 1:46:34
  going to go forever and ever and ever.
• 1:46:36
  Amen. Thank you.
• 1:46:38
  We're. Going to be like Golden Girls.
• 1:46:41
  That's like glitchy. It's going to be sassy.
• 1:46:43
  Quips and talks about being slut.
• 1:46:46
  That's what it's. Going to be I'm not I'm not a
• 1:46:48
  slower just so everybody know it.
• 1:46:50
  You're a whore. You're a whore, Peter.
• 1:46:53
  A She was a whore. No.
• 1:47:01
  Ladies and gentlemen, thanks for listening for so long.
• 1:47:05
  If you're still here. I've been Justine.
• 1:47:09
  She's been Danny. You've been lovely.
• 1:47:12
  This has been hocus Pocus. Lack of focus.
• 1:47:16
  Goodbye. Lock your fucking doors.
• 1:47:19
  Lock your doors in your windows and close your skylight.
• 1:47:22
  Hide your wife. Hide between.
• 1:47:23
  Your cars hide, your wives hide your kids, Ramirez.