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Ancient Nuclear War · Conspiracy! The Show

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Conspiracy The Show with your hosts Adam Todd
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Speaker 1: Brown and Conye mcspaden.
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Speaker 2: So, welcome to Conspiracy the Show. I think we're still
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Speaker 2: not firm on the title, but that's what we're calling
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Speaker 2: it right now.
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Speaker 3: We're recording these my team as though we've had two
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Speaker 3: weeks to deliberate this, but no, in fact it has not.
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Speaker 2: No, we do these all at once because it's just
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Speaker 2: easier that way.
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Speaker 3: We're busy, guys. Yeah, I mean, how are me.
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Speaker 2: And Connor are going to come up with two days
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Speaker 2: a month where we're free in the afternoon.
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Speaker 3: We live four minutes away. This is true.
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Speaker 2: I could walk.
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Speaker 3: I was. I was very much considering. It's like, you know,
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Speaker 3: I'll pay twenty dollars for parking, no, thank you?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's yeah. You live super close, preposterously close, literally
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Speaker 2: right up the street.
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Speaker 3: I'm an Echo park I've always started with the idea
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Speaker 3: of doing a visual game where I show you a picture.
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Speaker 3: In it, you have to play Echo Parker a leppo.
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Speaker 3: So I feel like the walk over here would be
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Speaker 3: a little bit more of an adventure.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, it would be a tense walk for sure.
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Speaker 2: So what are we talking about?
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Speaker 3: Today, a lot of tense line in the street today,
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Speaker 3: we're talking about ancient nuclear war, a subject very near
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Speaker 3: and dear to my heart. Ancient aliens, I think, are
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Speaker 3: a ton of fun.
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Speaker 2: This is a such a fun show to watch.
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Speaker 4: It is.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I operated into space when I listen to
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Speaker 3: conspiracy theory related media, where while I'm listening to it,
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Speaker 3: I just take it as true. Oh yes, for sure.
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Speaker 3: You know, Coast to Coast am on on AM radio.
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Speaker 3: Just while you're in the car at two in the morning,
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Speaker 3: fucking chemtrails are out there.
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Speaker 2: Ye, all right, all true.
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Speaker 3: Just give that to yourself and then the drivea go
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Speaker 3: a lot quicker.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Ancient Aliens is a lot more enjoyable to watch
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Speaker 2: if you don't go in super skeptical.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a magic show. Don't be looking for
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Speaker 3: the wires. Yeah, you know, just have a good time.
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Speaker 3: Check out the guys hair.
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Speaker 5: No.
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Speaker 3: No, this actually brings up two things that I hadn't
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Speaker 3: heard of before, because most of the ancient alien things
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Speaker 3: that I've did and I've seen and heard about it
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Speaker 3: like the Charity of the God stuff, and you have
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Speaker 3: the pictures of these crafts and like, oh we put
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Speaker 3: them in a wind tunnel. They're actually flying these. There
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Speaker 3: are people that are claiming that there's ancient nuclear explosions
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Speaker 3: on Earth, you know that weren't naturally occurring, right, and
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Speaker 3: also on Mars.
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Speaker 2: Also on Mars.
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Speaker 3: All right, so I think probably start with Earth first.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well we know of a couple that happened on
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Speaker 2: Earth for sure.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. The tests, yeah, I don't think there's been one
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Speaker 3: since well JFKSEGN the Nuclear Testing Agreement, but I think, yeah,
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Speaker 3: I think it may have been. You know, so around
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Speaker 3: the sixties was probably the last time. Yeah, the last
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Speaker 3: US nuclear test. Yeah, like countries like France.
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Speaker 2: France was testing on people in French Polynesia like into
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Speaker 2: the mid nineties because.
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Speaker 3: They're like, yeah, it's natives. Yeah, they're not gonna oh
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Speaker 3: if they get cancer, they're just gonna think it's gud. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I think they've been cursed.
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Speaker 3: That's funny. They're wacky guds.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, there have been a lot of nuclear tests,
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Speaker 2: but we're still the only country to ever drop one
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Speaker 2: in war YEP, and by that I mean two yep
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Speaker 2: August sixth, nineteen forty five and August ninth, nineteen forty five.
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Speaker 2: Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Japan, respectively. We dropped atomic bombs on
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Speaker 2: them our first We started the atomic bomb project that
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Speaker 2: was signed off on by Roosevelt in forty two. We
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Speaker 2: tested our first bomb in forty five. Interesting quote Robert
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Speaker 2: Oppenheimer after testing the first nuclear explosion, when asked if
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Speaker 2: this was indeed the first nuclear explosion, he replied yes.
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Speaker 2: In modern times, that is.
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Speaker 3: Weird that he said that. Yeah, I don't think that
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Speaker 3: he was thinking about the some of the glass deposits
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Speaker 3: that we're gonna be talking about. But it's one of
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Speaker 3: these things where you almost want to go back and
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Speaker 3: tell people like, oh, just phrase that a little differently,
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Speaker 3: because people are going to spend like a motherfucker.
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Speaker 2: Yes, you know. But he did seem to be into
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Speaker 2: the belief that there was some sort of ancient weapon
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Speaker 2: in India because he did quote he quoted, uh, the.
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Speaker 3: Bug of Agita. Yeah, I think it's pronounced now. I
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Speaker 3: am become.
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Speaker 2: Death, the destroyer of worlds. That was his quote after
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Speaker 2: we finally dropped the bomb.
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Speaker 3: It's one of those things where like way to be dramatic,
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Speaker 3: almost like Neil Armstrong were like, how many drafts did
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Speaker 3: you go through before you got to one small step
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Speaker 3: for a man, one giantly you know, He's like, yeah,
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Speaker 3: how many ancient scriptures like oh.
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Speaker 2: Should I do the Valley of Death?
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Speaker 3: Should I do death? Destroyer of worlds?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? And then everyone heard the Neil Armstrong quote wrong.
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so I quoted it correctly. One full step
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Speaker 3: for a man.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because everyone everyone heard what we call a space dick.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, talk about the Gemini program. We'll talk about the
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Speaker 3: Gemini program.
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Speaker 2: Everyone heard one small step for man, which would make
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Speaker 2: the quote make no sense. Yeah, because that was a
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Speaker 2: huge step for man, gigantic step. But uh yeah, one
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Speaker 2: small step.
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Speaker 3: Four almost contradict itself, like one small step for man,
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Speaker 3: but a giant lya for mankind? Like are you talking
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Speaker 3: about the wrestler? This is all falling apart.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it does make more sense when you put
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Speaker 2: the A in there.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. But I mean that audio sounded like it was
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Speaker 3: recorded on that lawyer's dictaphone in that Aloma City callback.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was. And I just set off an airhorn
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Speaker 2: for Oklahoma City.
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Speaker 3: Pour out some fucking compressed air for the one hundred
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Speaker 3: and sixty eight innocent lives?
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Speaker 2: Is that how many? It was? One sixty?
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Speaker 3: I think so yeah, something like that and like six'
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Speaker 3: eighty injured.
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Speaker 2: Put up some better numbers. McVeigh, lazy bitch, you're not
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Speaker 2: anyway with me, goddamn it.
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Speaker 3: Connor, No, I haven't completely resigned myself to never being
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Speaker 3: on TV. So I'm a.
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Speaker 6: I'm have.
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Speaker 3: It's okay. We got the wolf lamp and the Patreon.
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Speaker 3: We're good.
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Speaker 2: That's right. So uh, let's talk about one of the
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Speaker 2: first theories around ancient nuclear war. Because everyone I was American.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I always thought Truman was a good president,
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Speaker 3: But the more I'm learning about it, I'm thinking, this
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Speaker 3: guy's a fucking asshole.
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Speaker 2: Oh have you seen The Untold Story of the United States?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I was watching that.
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Speaker 2: That's right.
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Speaker 3: A few other things.
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Speaker 2: The Truman episode's crazy.
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Speaker 3: It's fucking bonkers.
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Speaker 2: He turned into a total cunt.
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Speaker 3: Atomic exciting scientists fucking convene and start like, you know,
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Speaker 3: like signing this, you know, the declaration of you know,
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Speaker 3: the intent by their group that they should never be
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Speaker 3: used again. He's all testing and he's just like get
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Speaker 3: the fuck out of my office, Jew And you're like,
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Speaker 3: whoa Jesus, whoa Harry.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he turned into a real piece of ship after
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Speaker 2: we got that bomb.
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Speaker 3: Oh, and this was one where he's drinking with Churchill
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Speaker 3: and Trizle was like, oh, when we get up to
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Speaker 3: the to the gates and we have to talk to
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Speaker 3: space Saint Peter, we're gonna have some explaining to do
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Speaker 3: about this mess, which is really like what you would
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Speaker 3: say if World War two was like a you know,
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Speaker 3: sixties like cop drama and you needed that fun end
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Speaker 3: of the episode riff, you know, like, oh, I tell
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Speaker 3: you the Thunderbirds have had a weekend. And then Truman
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Speaker 3: just like, yeah, no, whatever, Yeah, I gotta explain ship.
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Speaker 3: Just put a bunch of Japs, right, they're fine, just
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Speaker 3: raise this piece of shit. But the ancient nuclear bomb
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Speaker 3: that people are Theoris and when they when they tested
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Speaker 3: it in New Mexico, the Trinity test, all the glass
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Speaker 3: on the desert floor of the sand on the desert
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Speaker 3: floor turned to like this green glass, right type, you know, substance.
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Speaker 3: And they they're saying that they found deposits of identical
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Speaker 3: green glass in a subcontinent of India. So leads me
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Speaker 3: to believe that there was an advanced civilization capable of
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Speaker 3: doing this. And there's multiple layers of you know, agricultural
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Speaker 3: societies or evidence of agriculture and stuff, you know, above
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Speaker 3: and below it, so that you know that you can
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Speaker 3: see the kind of like the receipts of mankind civilizations
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Speaker 3: pass underneath it in the in the soil deposits.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the substance is called trinotite, and.
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Speaker 3: It was not one of the shitty new pokemon but
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Speaker 3: rather and it's.
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Speaker 2: A glassy residue that was left on the desert floor
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Speaker 2: after the Trinity nuclear bomb test. So like, this substance
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Speaker 2: is basically named after our nuclear our first nuclear bomb test,
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Speaker 2: which was also called Trinity. And it's a thing that
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Speaker 2: shows up like it takes a really intense heat to
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Speaker 2: produce this.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Another interesting thing I read is that one of
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Speaker 3: King Tut's necklaces, one of the pieces of is of trinitite.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, which is that's that's.
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Speaker 3: Some fucking crazy shit.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's insane.
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Speaker 3: I mean, if you're a pharaoh, I mean that's what. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: give me a piece of a meteorite for a ring,
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Speaker 3: Give me some of that nuclear glass from my necklace.
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Speaker 2: Just whatever's fallen from this. That's probably what killed him.
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Speaker 2: But the necklace that probably gave him throat cancer.
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Speaker 3: That or the incest.
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Speaker 2: That'll do it too. But yeah, this trinotite is is
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Speaker 2: one of the things that shows up. Should we watch
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Speaker 2: the Ancient Aliens clip?
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Speaker 3: I think we should. I think this will give us
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Speaker 3: a This will say what we're trying to say, and
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Speaker 3: both more and less quin terms.
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Speaker 2: They explain it so much better. All right, here we go.
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Speaker 7: Had long ago shaped the Earth's history. Atomic warfare among
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Speaker 7: ancient civilizations may sound like something out of a science
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Speaker 7: fiction novel sort of.
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Speaker 1: Yes, of similar deadly occurrences can.
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Speaker 3: Be found in the very sweedy to sell advertise.
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Speaker 7: Quoted after the New Mexico Atomic Test.
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Speaker 3: I remember the dying from.
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Speaker 7: The Hindu scripture, the part of that geek test.
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Speaker 8: Now I am become.
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Speaker 7: Death, the destroyer of world.
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Speaker 2: Why does he look morose?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he looks like a straight up vampire. Looks like
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Speaker 3: someone who just killed millions of people in Japan and
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Speaker 3: is regretting it.
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Speaker 7: Part of an ancient Hindu scripture.
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Speaker 3: You know those like facial expression charts to give to
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Speaker 3: people with autism. Yeah, this is when someone's happy, when
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Speaker 3: they said, this is when someone murdered a bunch of people.
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Speaker 7: Tho and verse text contains stories about the ancient Empire
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Speaker 7: of Rama, which it is said existed over twelve thousand
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Speaker 7: years ago, or roughly five thousand years before the earliest red.
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Speaker 2: The problem with ancient aliens is they never cite their sources,
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Speaker 2: Like if.
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Speaker 4: You read the ancient Indian epics, they read like modern days.
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Speaker 2: This is everyone's favorite guy.
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Speaker 3: This is the guy that's.
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Speaker 1: Giorgio's flying chariots. And of these gods that had these.
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Speaker 4: Incredible technological capabilities, see right.
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Speaker 3: Here, I would I don't think elephants are very aerodynamic. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: One of the one of the arguments people make is
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Speaker 2: that when people were seeing this, the only reference point
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Speaker 2: they had animals.
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean, and and you also see that
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Speaker 3: there's a there's an a group of islanders where they
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Speaker 3: were a air dropped like aid like crates full of
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Speaker 3: supply and ship by these planes. So they started worshiping
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Speaker 3: the planes, and they thought the planes were gods, and
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Speaker 3: they like created like a replica of a plane and
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Speaker 3: set it on fire to try to some of the
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Speaker 3: plane gods and ship like that. And so I mean,
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Speaker 3: I'm not disputing that was just a little goof, but yeah,
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Speaker 3: definitely I mean, this is like, oh, what's these things
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Speaker 3: are going so fast? What do we have to go fast?
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Speaker 3: Fucking chariots elephants.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's don't go fast. Put it in there anyway
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Speaker 2: we get We'll be dead before anyone cares, all right,
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Speaker 2: so let's get back to it. Any red star, she's
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Speaker 2: our she's our source for.
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Speaker 7: The SIUs believe the Brahma weapon was an early nuclear
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Speaker 7: device because the descriptions of its deadly after effects are
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Speaker 7: eerily similar to the effects of exposure to intense radiation.
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Speaker 3: They started folding one thousand paper cranes.
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Speaker 7: Con science, there is no evidence that a nuclear bomb
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Speaker 7: was described in the Mahabart the bagavagito.
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Speaker 2: See that, that's it described.
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Speaker 3: That guy also pronounced a bug a bugita the way
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Speaker 3: my dad pronounces guacamole, and the boggy boggy boo. There
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Speaker 3: aint no evidence.
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Speaker 1: It's one thing about suggesting.
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Speaker 2: Bad hair day for you. He looks like Kat Williams
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Speaker 2: with hair like that.
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Speaker 3: He does and pulling it back questionable move when you
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Speaker 3: have that level of forehead.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure he needs some bangs.
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Speaker 1: One reference that we have for example speech.
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Speaker 3: It's a big he got the trails manson swastika. He
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Speaker 3: could do the eagle on top of.
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Speaker 1: It and suns now.
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Speaker 2: See this car he's talking about.
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Speaker 1: Twirling in the air the trees people who.
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Speaker 2: Indeed buni actually have I was just mass destruction because
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Speaker 2: what he's referencing is actually from a book wrenched by
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Speaker 2: French conspiracy lyrists in the sixtels.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, where they translated it to basically fit there.
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Speaker 4: Ye have a concise reference to radiation poisoning, nuclear fallout.
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Speaker 2: But the and we'll read them, know we're talking over this,
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Speaker 2: we'll read the quote in a bit. But what bothers
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Speaker 2: me about this, and we'll also get to this more
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Speaker 2: is people latch onto that one thing that these people
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Speaker 2: get wrong, and they're like, well then everything they say
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Speaker 2: is wrong.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, like oh, the guy that came up with this
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Speaker 3: fucked a kid. And you're like, well, you know, in
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Speaker 3: the off hours, get pretty good journalistic research skills.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, found the right kid, the fox.
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Speaker 3: I mean yeah, he kept quiet for twenty years. He
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Speaker 3: had a good run. He was able to get a
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Speaker 3: lot of good research done.
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Speaker 7: In nineteen twenty two, an officer with an Indian archaeological
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Speaker 7: survey group discovered the ruins of an ancient city known
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Speaker 7: as Moheenjo Daro.
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Speaker 2: So, Mohenjo Daro is the sighted where archaeologists, a lot
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Speaker 2: of people believe this ancient nuclear war happened.
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Speaker 7: It flourished between twenty six hundred and nineteen.
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Speaker 2: And they're going to get into, however, some of the
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Speaker 2: reasons why they think.
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Speaker 7: Suggested Mohenjo Daro is much older.
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Speaker 1: Oh street, do you tell the city.
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Speaker 7: Was abandoned as a result of climatic changes or possibly
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Speaker 7: a decrease in trade or But when the ruins of
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Speaker 7: Mohenjo Daro were dice in the twenties, forty four skeletons
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Speaker 7: were found.
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Speaker 2: See this one.
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Speaker 3: This, this, they're being a little shady about two because
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Speaker 3: a lot of these bodies.
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Speaker 7: Body positioning were not found in the same They suffered
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Speaker 7: a sudden, violent death.
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Speaker 2: And some of them were actually buried.
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Speaker 3: You have a culture of people who literally were lying
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Speaker 3: that in the street.
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Speaker 1: Archaologists have found human remains and something big has happened.
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Speaker 3: They're going to say, archaeologists, again, what in.
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Speaker 7: Fact did happen to the people of Mohenjo Dna.
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Speaker 2: See that's the thing. No one knows what happened to
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Speaker 2: these people. They know it was a really advanced civilization
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Speaker 2: and that just kind of disappeared at one point.
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Speaker 3: To to what level where they advanced? They do? They say,
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Speaker 3: you said like flushing toilets, and.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they had like flushing toilets and working old ways.
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Speaker 2: There's some suggestion that they had electricity.
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Speaker 3: And exists from of those bag dad batteries seen.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah it is. Actually there's uh right up for
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Speaker 2: a battery in one of their ancients.
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Speaker 3: The question arises why, but like clay pot batteries to
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Speaker 3: nuclear weaponry is such a that's.
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Speaker 2: A huge leap.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, if you're implying that this
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Speaker 3: came from outside a little more possible. But like, I
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Speaker 3: don't that suffered the equivalent atomic attack. If you were
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Speaker 3: advanced enough to create weapons humans, there'd be more evidence
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Speaker 3: that you left beyond, like their metal and like you know,
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Speaker 3: that would be rented in such a way like oh
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Speaker 3: this was done deliberately, like.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, where everything appeared to have been fused through a
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Speaker 7: transformative process known as vitrification.
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Speaker 4: Vitrification is a pro process in which regular.
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Speaker 5: Type of stone regular gets molten into a magma state,
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Speaker 5: aliens and then it hardens again. But once the stone
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Speaker 5: is hardened again, it feels like glass. At Mohendro Daro,
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Speaker 5: we find evidence of thetrification, which could have only been
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Speaker 5: achieved if the material was exposed to extreme heat.
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Speaker 3: Now what people who disagree with this.
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Speaker 2: This part say it is that there was a kilm
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Speaker 2: that they used to make pottery on the borders. Glass.
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Speaker 2: But then why wouldn't we see more of that glass?
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Speaker 2: What's that glass? Because kilns weren't rare.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, like why wouldn't that you know, people similar to show,
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Speaker 3: you know, geographical composition.
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Speaker 1: Weapons, only it happened in ancient times. There's other evidence in.
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Speaker 3: Parts of Yeah, this is like sort of middle kind
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Speaker 3: of it would seem to be I found a sneaker
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Speaker 3: in my house, my wife's sucking a black guy. It's
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Speaker 3: just the the extrapolation is fun.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, sand glass and that, I mean, that is
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Speaker 2: a thing that happens when a nuclear bomb hits sand.
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Speaker 2: It does make the desert basically a big sea of glass.
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Speaker 2: There's also one in Libya though, and no one is
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Speaker 2: there's a sea of glass in.
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Speaker 3: Libya and there's no powerful like the civilization just around
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Speaker 3: that was just ran that that was where the Aliens
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Speaker 3: took a pot shot.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, in testing tested their bomb there.
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Speaker 4: And I quote at one point three giant cities were
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Speaker 4: orbiting the Earth, and those giant cities were often described
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Speaker 4: as being made of gleaming metal and iron iron.
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Speaker 1: One those three cities went to war with each other.
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and so there's spaceships fighting. Yeah, that's gone
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Speaker 3: kind of when you look at the weapons description or
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Speaker 3: the drawings from these texts, that's basically what it is
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Speaker 3: is three entities fighting in the sky. Yeah. And so
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Speaker 3: when you read those passages, basically Earth had three alien
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Speaker 3: step Dad show up right over India. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Our ancestors try to describe here.
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Speaker 2: See, this is the thing. You can't I think.
18:37
Speaker 1: That it was some type of a technology.
18:40
Speaker 2: You can't fault them for making everything look like elephants
18:42
Speaker 2: and chariots in the sky.
18:44
Speaker 3: I mean that's what they had. They're like, I can't
18:45
Speaker 3: draw spaceship. I only thought once for eight seconds. Yeah,
18:48
Speaker 3: but just say it's an elephant, because we already I'm
18:50
Speaker 3: pretty good at drawing those.
18:51
Speaker 2: We all got so a guy that.
18:55
Speaker 3: Does face painting, like, can you do Darth Maulin is
18:56
Speaker 3: like you want to be Peter Cris from Kiss.
19:00
Speaker 1: It never was.
19:01
Speaker 8: Supernatural hm If in fact the Maha Baratah is describing
19:08
Speaker 8: historical events, might we also find similar.
19:13
Speaker 3: All right, well, I wue a well as edited clip
19:17
Speaker 3: for a prestigious platform such as Ancient Aliens on the
19:19
Speaker 3: History Channel.
19:21
Speaker 2: That ended.
19:22
Speaker 3: We also next next video prints playing Purple Rain live.
19:27
Speaker 3: Oh that's covering.
19:29
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's the Ancient Aliens description for what they
19:35
Speaker 2: think happened in the Indus Valley. And uh, there's a
19:39
Speaker 2: website see this. We talked about this a little bit
19:42
Speaker 2: on the last episode. Whenever you bring up stuff like this,
19:45
Speaker 2: people want really hard, verifiable references and sources for if
19:51
Speaker 2: you're on the side of the conspiracy. But when it
19:53
Speaker 2: comes to debunking it, I promise you someone would send
19:57
Speaker 2: you a link to Ancient Aliens Debunked doc yeah and
20:01
Speaker 2: be like, Nope, it's been debunked already, bro snopes it dude. Yeah,
20:06
Speaker 2: it's like, who the fuck are these people? And some
20:09
Speaker 2: of their quotes. That is actually a website, Ancient aliensdebunk
20:13
Speaker 2: dot com, and they have an article on ancient nuclear warfare.
20:17
Speaker 2: One of the things they bring up. One of the
20:19
Speaker 2: first problems this is a quote. One of the first
20:21
Speaker 2: problems with this theory. Is the city itself, its buildings
20:24
Speaker 2: are still intact, some of which are fifteen feet high,
20:27
Speaker 2: and they're made out of mud. So you would think
20:29
Speaker 2: a nuclear weapon whose main destructive power is in the
20:32
Speaker 2: force of its blast wave, would be able to topple
20:34
Speaker 2: a few mud brick buildings.
20:36
Speaker 3: You would think that I build to live in a
20:38
Speaker 3: nicer house than people that lives eight thousand years ago.
20:40
Speaker 3: But nope.
20:42
Speaker 2: See I disagree with this point because that video we
20:46
Speaker 2: were just watching, they showed a bunch of test blasts
20:48
Speaker 2: where even trees just kind of bend and then snap
20:52
Speaker 2: back into place.
20:53
Speaker 3: No, you'ressuming that I'm struggling with. Was the sea of
20:55
Speaker 3: glasses this underneath the city or is it near and
20:58
Speaker 3: around the city.
20:59
Speaker 2: It's at the Mohenzo Daro site. I don't know that
21:04
Speaker 2: that sea of glass is actually confirmed. Oh Okay, they
21:08
Speaker 2: just say they've found evidence of vitrification there. Ok Someone
21:13
Speaker 2: has claimed there's a sea of glass, but I haven't
21:16
Speaker 2: seen pictures of it.
21:17
Speaker 3: I mean that that other stit you're talking about in
21:18
Speaker 3: Pakistan sounds a little more interesting then, because if this
21:21
Speaker 3: is just like bits and pieces here and there, that
21:24
Speaker 3: sounds very much like it's plausible that it's just the
21:26
Speaker 3: kilns that they're talking about. Yeah, you know, but uh,
21:29
Speaker 3: I mean also, if it's far enough away, I mean,
21:31
Speaker 3: if if you're far if anything's far enough away from
21:33
Speaker 3: a nuclear bomb, I mean, there's a there's a sweet
21:35
Speaker 3: spot location where you're gonna just get that like palm
21:38
Speaker 3: tree blowing in the wind, fucking experience and then the
21:41
Speaker 3: slow death of radiation. But anything close to that, you know,
21:45
Speaker 3: anywhere near mud huts are not gonna survive obviously, right.
21:49
Speaker 2: But the thing is, if you're not right in that
21:51
Speaker 2: blast radius a mud hut, wouldn't the heat from that
21:55
Speaker 2: just sort of make that stronger? It would just sort
21:58
Speaker 2: of bake it into to a harder brick, right, Like
22:01
Speaker 2: that's how making I mean mud, I mean, and structures works.
22:06
Speaker 3: Mud structures are usually in pretty hot places. So yeah,
22:10
Speaker 3: and I think that's why they're in hot places. Yeah,
22:12
Speaker 3: because the heat helps them fuse into something like a brick.
22:17
Speaker 3: It turns the mud into brick. It's weird to understand it, Aliens,
22:20
Speaker 3: you have to remember a social studies lecture about adobe.
22:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly right.
22:25
Speaker 3: So it's three parts straw, four parts poop.
22:27
Speaker 2: Now, Okay, so that's their first thing they bring up
22:32
Speaker 2: when debunking this. They also bring up none of the
22:35
Speaker 2: archaeologists involved thought these skeletons suggested a sudden catastrophe, which
22:40
Speaker 2: is incorrect. The first archaeologist who found this location this
22:45
Speaker 2: is a quote. However, even though some of the original
22:47
Speaker 2: excavators interpreted the evidence in a way that suggested the
22:50
Speaker 2: bodies were linked by a single catastrophic event, they took
22:54
Speaker 2: the view that the catastrophe was a war and not
22:56
Speaker 2: a nuclear explosion. So that's fine. But the way the
23:01
Speaker 2: site that's debunking this paints it is that no one ever.
23:05
Speaker 3: Said it was a strophe. This was a single cat
23:08
Speaker 3: Are not going to jump right to Oh, these people
23:10
Speaker 3: lying out to these mud huts must have been victims
23:12
Speaker 3: of nuclear warfare.
23:14
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah. Here's the passage that fucks everyone up. This
23:18
Speaker 2: is allegedly from the mahab mahab Harata.
23:22
Speaker 6: Girka flying us swift. That's the one girka flying a
23:28
Speaker 6: swift and powerful Vimana hurled a single projectile charged with
23:32
Speaker 6: the power of the universe. An incandescent column of smoke
23:36
Speaker 6: and flame as bright as ten thousand suns, rose with
23:40
Speaker 6: all its splendor. It was an unknown weapon, an iron thunderbolt,
23:44
Speaker 6: a gigantic messenger of death, which reduced to ashes the
23:48
Speaker 6: entire race of the Vrishnis and the Andhakas. The corpses
23:53
Speaker 6: were so burned as to be recognizable. Hair and nails
23:56
Speaker 6: fell out, pottery broke without apparent cause, and the birds
23:59
Speaker 6: turned After a few hours. All food stuffs were infected.
24:03
Speaker 6: To escape from this fire, the soldiers through themselves in
24:06
Speaker 6: streams to wash themselves and their equipment.
24:09
Speaker 2: So that sounds like nuclear poisoning. Yeah, that sounds like
24:12
Speaker 2: people suffering from the fallout of radiation.
24:15
Speaker 3: To play Devil's Advocate, I also feel like if you
24:18
Speaker 3: read enough scripture from any religion, of which there is
24:23
Speaker 3: an innumerable amount of, you could find shit that sounds
24:26
Speaker 3: like shit that happens today. You know, Oh yeah for sure.
24:29
Speaker 3: And this is like I discovered that if you play
24:31
Speaker 3: the Star Trek next Generation intro and sync it up
24:34
Speaker 3: with Last Train to London but elo, it works perfectly.
24:37
Speaker 3: I think much in the same way. You could also
24:39
Speaker 3: say that this, you know, flowery description of this is
24:43
Speaker 3: just you know, a coincidence.
24:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, the thing is this.
24:47
Speaker 3: Is but that in conjunction with the glass is interesting,
24:49
Speaker 3: but I don't I don't think I'm not This doesn't
24:52
Speaker 3: have enough cohesion for Ye.
24:55
Speaker 2: The problem is it's really hard, Like there's no way
24:57
Speaker 2: anyone's ever going.
24:59
Speaker 3: To pro Yeah, if there was, if there was something
25:02
Speaker 3: like oh, there's a you know, a hundred circular acres
25:05
Speaker 3: of this green glass under and then you know this
25:08
Speaker 3: in this nearby town they've had this and this is
25:10
Speaker 3: reported in this document which traces back to this area,
25:13
Speaker 3: I'd be like, okay, all right, but yeah, it's all
25:16
Speaker 3: kind of seems a bit.
25:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, this one, it seems like they're kind of piecing
25:20
Speaker 2: things together haphazard. Yeah.
25:22
Speaker 3: Yeah, as much as I want this to be true,
25:23
Speaker 3: this is fucking badass.
25:25
Speaker 2: It kind of seems like no one really knows. So
25:28
Speaker 2: both sides are just sort of piecing together their argument
25:32
Speaker 2: for why this could or couldn't happen. And that that
25:36
Speaker 2: quote that everyone latches onto as proof that this happened
25:41
Speaker 2: is actually not from the Mahabharazza like people think it is.
25:47
Speaker 2: Which that uh, it's from a book written in nineteen
25:51
Speaker 2: sixty called The Morning Magicians, which was written by a
25:55
Speaker 2: team of French conspiracy theorists and so if that passages
26:00
Speaker 2: somewhere in the mahab Harata, no one's found it yet.
26:05
Speaker 2: So that's that's a problem.
26:06
Speaker 3: People of control. F yeah, control, f God squiggles.
26:10
Speaker 2: I actually tried it. The problem is the maha Harata
26:13
Speaker 2: is two million words long, Jesus, and it's got nineteen
26:18
Speaker 2: different sections, which all have chapters of their own.
26:21
Speaker 3: Must be hard for like Hindu like proselytizing. You can't
26:24
Speaker 3: even get that down to like a little orange pocket bible.
26:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, they were selling USB versions of it
26:29
Speaker 2: on the site. I was looking out, Oh too big
26:32
Speaker 2: to like dropbox, Yeah, exactly, fucking email it to me.
26:37
Speaker 2: But I look through that and I didn't find this quote.
26:41
Speaker 2: But there there are references in that two things that
26:46
Speaker 2: sound like nuclear weapons, like the Masala Parva, which is
26:49
Speaker 2: section sixteen of the mahab Harata. Part of that reads,
26:52
Speaker 2: when the next day came, Samba actually brought forth an
26:55
Speaker 2: iron bolt through which all the individuals in the race
26:59
Speaker 2: of the Vrishni and the Onakas became consumed into ashes. Indeed,
27:04
Speaker 2: for the destruction of the Vrishna's and the Onakas, Samba
27:08
Speaker 2: brought forth through that curse a fierce iron bolt that
27:11
Speaker 2: looked like a gigantic messenger of death.
27:14
Speaker 3: So it kind of seems like similar to the Jewels
27:16
Speaker 3: passage in pulp fiction, where it's pieced together from several
27:19
Speaker 3: different Bible verses and you're not actually gonna find it
27:21
Speaker 3: in there. It seems like they have in the Morning
27:24
Speaker 3: Magician's Book sort of extrapolated on this piece.
27:27
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, they basically that quote that everyone uses to
27:32
Speaker 2: back this up is exactly what you said, them piecing
27:34
Speaker 2: together different parts of the Mahabarata into one quote that
27:39
Speaker 2: looks really damning you see.
27:41
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was about to say this is significantly less
27:43
Speaker 3: damning because it does not show the things that are
27:46
Speaker 3: the giant bolt of fire from this guy. I feel
27:48
Speaker 3: like it is a fairly easy thing to imagine if
27:51
Speaker 3: you're a god fearing a person of you know, the
27:54
Speaker 3: Indian subcontinent and what the fuck BC. But then if
27:57
Speaker 3: you add the winds of plague and the foods in
27:59
Speaker 3: fact and washing himself with the rivers and the birds
28:01
Speaker 3: turning white and all that, I feel like that those
28:04
Speaker 3: are all the details that sell it, whereas this is
28:06
Speaker 3: just like that's just copy and paste God's wrath type shit.
28:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think I.
28:11
Speaker 3: Can go back and be like, well, the Holy Spirit
28:13
Speaker 3: is clearly referring to Wi Fi. I mean, they're the
28:15
Speaker 3: same concepts as everywhere fills you with love.
28:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's That's one of the problems with this theory
28:21
Speaker 2: is that it it so much of it hinges on
28:23
Speaker 2: that passage, when that passage is kind of i mean,
28:28
Speaker 2: not completely fake, like there are things in the Mahabarata
28:32
Speaker 2: that kind of correlate with that passage, but the fact
28:35
Speaker 2: that they pieced it all together and tried to make
28:38
Speaker 2: it seem like one actual section in that book that's
28:42
Speaker 2: explicitly about nuclear war. I think that hurts their cause.
28:47
Speaker 2: I don't know whose cause it he even is anymore,
28:50
Speaker 2: because at the end of the day, who fucking cares.
28:52
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's I mean, it's fun to think
28:55
Speaker 3: about and to speculate about. Yeah, it is. Of No,
28:58
Speaker 3: the only possible ramification are we need to be ready
29:01
Speaker 3: for when the aliens come back with newts to settle
29:03
Speaker 3: this shit over the fucking Yeah. And it could just
29:05
Speaker 3: as well mean that we had nuclear technology at one
29:09
Speaker 3: point and lost it and now we've regained it.
29:11
Speaker 2: I See.
29:11
Speaker 3: I've always found that to be interesting when people talk
29:13
Speaker 3: about atlants and stuff like that. But I just don't
29:15
Speaker 3: think that there's any way that if a civilization got
29:17
Speaker 3: to that level there would be no evidence, because I mean,
29:21
Speaker 3: think about any of the shit in this room is
29:23
Speaker 3: not going to biodegrade in you know, six thousand years.
29:26
Speaker 3: The headphones are gonna look kind of like some shitty headphones,
29:29
Speaker 3: Like the weather's gonna be rided away, or there's gonna
29:31
Speaker 3: be a metal band with these weird you know, like yeah,
29:33
Speaker 3: instruments at the end. So I just it's I can't
29:36
Speaker 3: I can't buy it. I can't, yeah, you know. And
29:38
Speaker 3: then oh, these were incinerated in nuclear blaste, Like, well,
29:41
Speaker 3: how many nuclear blasts wear? If there were that many,
29:42
Speaker 3: wouldn't we be able to see evidence of that? Like, yeah,
29:45
Speaker 3: wouldn't we look like Mars right now? No, that's the
29:48
Speaker 3: other theory. Oh that was a hell of a segue.
29:51
Speaker 3: I gotta give it to you.
29:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. I was sitting on that all show.
29:55
Speaker 5: Uh.
29:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's another theory that an ancient nuclear war destroyed
29:59
Speaker 2: all life on Mars.
30:01
Speaker 3: Not a scientology tentative belief, now much it might be
30:04
Speaker 3: actually enough that corresponds.
30:06
Speaker 2: That's super close. Is this one is interesting? The guy
30:09
Speaker 2: who came up with it is an actual physicist. He
30:12
Speaker 2: works at the University of Wisconsin. If you listen to
30:15
Speaker 2: him in interviews, he gets very excited when someone is
30:20
Speaker 2: going to come on to challenge him about his beliefs,
30:23
Speaker 2: Like he's very convinced that there was a nuclear blast
30:28
Speaker 2: on Mars that destroyed all life.
30:30
Speaker 3: There's a great article dismissing him where almost every single
30:34
Speaker 3: phrase in the article is in quotation marks. They're like
30:37
Speaker 3: a physicist from the University of Wisconsin. If that's even
30:42
Speaker 3: a place nice.
30:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a if people have a whole lot of
30:48
Speaker 2: time to kill. There's a YouTube interview that you can
30:52
Speaker 2: go watch with this dude. The title of the video
30:56
Speaker 2: is Mars was Nuked Interview with doctor John Brandenburg, and
31:00
Speaker 2: it's an infuriating podcast to watch. They take commercial breaks
31:04
Speaker 2: with no commercials. They just pause and play music and
31:07
Speaker 2: then come back, which is.
31:09
Speaker 3: Just a little uh, you know, palate cleanser, just a
31:10
Speaker 3: little break, guys. I mean, you're you're gonna need to
31:13
Speaker 3: internalize a lot of hard tricks, yes, all right.
31:16
Speaker 2: Getting your mind blown. Need to relax. They interviewed this guy,
31:20
Speaker 2: doctor John Brandenburg, and one of his arguments for why
31:25
Speaker 2: there was definitely a nuclear war on Mars is xenon
31:29
Speaker 2: one twenty nine, which is apparently an element that's only
31:34
Speaker 2: found when a nuclear reaction happens. And his first theory
31:39
Speaker 2: was that a large, naturally occurring nuclear reactor formed on
31:45
Speaker 2: Mars at one point and exploded, which apparently that's a thing.
31:49
Speaker 3: Yeah, nuclear, right, I like looking at that like a
31:51
Speaker 3: natural like apparently it's happened in some small extent on Earth. Yeah,
31:55
Speaker 3: I don't know exactly how it's it seems sounds like
31:58
Speaker 3: some kind of super volcano type situation.
32:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's supposed to be one in Africa. Yeah, that's
32:02
Speaker 2: what I was called, like oaklow, Yeah, something like that. Which, yeah,
32:06
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know enough about how nuclear energy
32:10
Speaker 2: works to wrap my head around how a nuclear reactor
32:13
Speaker 2: would just pop up, Yeah, because it's not like this
32:16
Speaker 2: is not like a naturally occurring Simpson's plant where they're
32:19
Speaker 2: boiling water, it's spinning a turbine. It's some sort of
32:23
Speaker 2: natural reaction within the constrativerse geology that gives off this radiation, right,
32:29
Speaker 2: And his original theory was that this naturally occurring nuclear
32:33
Speaker 2: actor formed to explode, but he later was told by
32:37
Speaker 2: someone that xenon one twenty nine is the prevailing element
32:41
Speaker 2: that's found at these nuclear hotspots that he's identified on
32:46
Speaker 2: Mars somehow, and normally that would be only be the
32:49
Speaker 2: case if a weapon was used, So he a couple
32:53
Speaker 2: of years back changed his his theory from naturally occurring
32:57
Speaker 2: nuclear reactor to Mars got hit with alien bombs, which
33:02
Speaker 2: damn that's a leap.
33:04
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean that first one, I feel like
33:06
Speaker 3: that's like at the science you know, cotillion party, they're like, oh,
33:09
Speaker 3: that's very that's very interesting. Mister Binderberg to just carried
33:12
Speaker 3: to elaborate.
33:12
Speaker 2: He's like, oh, yes, you know, you're.
33:13
Speaker 3: Showing twenty nine. And in the next year he comes back.
33:15
Speaker 3: His hair is all fucked up, he's got like leaves
33:18
Speaker 3: sticking out of the pockets of his ritted tucks, and
33:20
Speaker 3: he's like, all right, they're coming for us next or Yeah.
33:23
Speaker 2: It's it's weird, like you want to just assume everything
33:27
Speaker 2: this guy's saying is nuts, but he's also like he
33:29
Speaker 2: comes off like a really smart guy.
33:32
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was reading I was listening to a podcast
33:34
Speaker 3: that debunks this and he's saying that xen on twenty
33:37
Speaker 3: nine is not especially prevalent around nuclear explosions, but it
33:44
Speaker 3: is a product of the half life of like iodine, right,
33:47
Speaker 3: something is like sixteen million years, so in over long
33:51
Speaker 3: and a period of time, this will decay into you know,
33:53
Speaker 3: xenon one twenty nine.
33:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, it could be naturally occurring.
33:57
Speaker 3: Yeah, it could be kind of similar to his first theory,
34:00
Speaker 3: or just you know, some someone putting some eye on him.
34:02
Speaker 3: The Mars was getting an X ray in the fifties
34:05
Speaker 3: and they shut it up full of it. Isn't that
34:07
Speaker 3: what it?
34:07
Speaker 5: No?
34:07
Speaker 3: Idone was like the old hydrogen peroxide. Yeah, isn't that
34:11
Speaker 3: like in Tom Sawyer, Like he cuts his arm, you know,
34:13
Speaker 3: like making the burning cross and then they fucking pour
34:16
Speaker 3: some eodna.
34:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, one of his one of his things, there's
34:21
Speaker 2: no craters or signs of damage because one of the
34:23
Speaker 2: things that could cause you know, he.
34:25
Speaker 3: Was like, yo, it was so long ago that the
34:26
Speaker 3: fucking the sands to blow it over. You know how
34:28
Speaker 3: Wendy Mohrs.
34:29
Speaker 2: Is because one of the things that can cause xenon
34:32
Speaker 2: one twenty nine also is meteorites. But he says there's
34:35
Speaker 2: no craters or damage near where all this radioactive activity is.
34:42
Speaker 2: So his theory is that the bomb was exploded above ground.
34:46
Speaker 2: And what bothers me about this is when he gets into.
34:51
Speaker 3: All this someone was trying to emp Mars.
34:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah kind of. And what bothers me is when
34:56
Speaker 2: he when you start to ask about like uh oh okay,
35:00
Speaker 2: so who why why did they bomb this civilization on Mars,
35:04
Speaker 2: which at one point he describes it as like a
35:07
Speaker 2: Bronze Age civilization, Like why are you bombing them? Just
35:10
Speaker 2: go in and shoot them?
35:11
Speaker 3: Yeah, just takes an overkill. Yeah, you know, it's like
35:14
Speaker 3: the it's like desert storm where like seventy six iraqis
35:16
Speaker 3: that American's died and then every Iraqi.
35:19
Speaker 2: Ever done and all he like in this podcast at
35:23
Speaker 2: least when you bring that up, he's just like I
35:26
Speaker 2: covered in my book Death on Mars, the discovery of
35:29
Speaker 2: a planetary nuclear massacre. Well yeah, I mean, like, also
35:32
Speaker 2: tell me before I read your book, idiot.
35:35
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is this would be included in the blurb. Like, well,
35:38
Speaker 3: the fact that he's extrapolating that there was a Bronze
35:40
Speaker 3: Age intelligent civilization, I feel like it's completely unfounded.
35:44
Speaker 2: Well yeah, especially on Mars. Yeah, like that and what
35:51
Speaker 2: he goes very cold there, yeah, super cold. What he
35:55
Speaker 2: bases a lot of this on is like the face
35:57
Speaker 2: on Mars.
35:58
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I was seeing some of the And then
36:00
Speaker 3: if you take a picture of it from a different
36:02
Speaker 3: angle with you know, modern craft that's been near Mars,
36:05
Speaker 3: I figured which one it was exactly, just like, oh,
36:07
Speaker 3: it's just a rock that had a flattering shadow at
36:10
Speaker 3: one point. And again it's someone of my thing with
36:12
Speaker 3: the you know, the bug of a Gita or the
36:14
Speaker 3: other the the monomenon boot boot but dooo where if
36:17
Speaker 3: you read enough you're gonna find shit that sinks up.
36:19
Speaker 3: If you take enough pictures of craters, you're gonna see
36:21
Speaker 3: a dick. I mean, you know, go and Reddit. And
36:24
Speaker 3: then someone watched some clouds go by that looked like
36:26
Speaker 3: a guitar, and that's it's gonna happen.
36:28
Speaker 2: Have you ever looked into all of the Mars rover
36:31
Speaker 2: pictures that people have been uploading now, they're like a
36:33
Speaker 2: squirrel spotted on Mars, like it could just be a
36:37
Speaker 2: weird rock. Yeah, you never know, yeah, that's probably you know,
36:40
Speaker 2: and if there are squirrels up there, fuck them, I
36:42
Speaker 2: don't care. Yeah, stupid, Why are you in Mars? Come
36:45
Speaker 2: to Earth? We got Starbucks down here.
36:47
Speaker 3: Yeah, grow some thumbs and fucking get your shit together,
36:49
Speaker 3: all right, we'll keep a keep a tree ready for.
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Speaker 2: You fucking losers. One thing about this guy, and I'm
36:55
Speaker 2: serious about this, We should get him on this podcast
36:59
Speaker 2: because he does every interview put in front of him. Yeah,
37:03
Speaker 2: like there are stories out there.
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Speaker 3: I feel like I could reach out to him with
37:07
Speaker 3: four grammatical errors on a Yahoo account and get a
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Speaker 3: detailed response.
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Speaker 2: We could probably get him on the phone before we
37:13
Speaker 2: stop recording right now. Oh yeah, but I feel like he's.
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Speaker 3: Got a Google voice number and he doesn't have a
37:18
Speaker 3: lot to do during the day since the university cut
37:21
Speaker 3: him down to teaching one class a every other semester.
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Speaker 2: One class about nuclear war on Mars.
37:26
Speaker 3: Well that'd be great. You get tenured as a professor.
37:28
Speaker 3: And they're like, oh god, we got to shovele this
37:29
Speaker 3: guy off to the side. I know we're overpaying him,
37:31
Speaker 3: but we can't have the parents come to tour and
37:33
Speaker 3: be like, is that.
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Speaker 2: The Mars war guy?
37:35
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, let me show you the vending machines figure.
37:38
Speaker 3: We got an excellent gym here on campus.
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Speaker 2: He's selling T shirts on the side. Mars was bomb. Yeah,
37:44
Speaker 2: we definitely need to try and get this guy on
37:47
Speaker 2: the podcast because it, I.
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Speaker 3: Mean, i'd be interesting to see how he responds to
37:51
Speaker 3: some of these, you know, adine things that I'm misquoting
37:54
Speaker 3: from smarter people.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there there is a lot out there debunking this.
37:59
Speaker 2: I feel like I want to read his book.
38:01
Speaker 3: I this the thing is like, I'm tempted to read this,
38:03
Speaker 3: but it's like I almost feel like with the investment
38:05
Speaker 3: of reading a book, I could just read something that's
38:07
Speaker 3: actually going to definitely make me smarter, you know, because
38:10
Speaker 3: it's like this is like eight hours to like ship
38:12
Speaker 3: ship on a movie. It's two hours of your time.
38:14
Speaker 3: You watch it with a friend, it's fine, but you're
38:16
Speaker 3: just you alone with like this is bullshit quietly in
38:19
Speaker 3: your stocking cap like highlighting shit. It's a big investment.
38:23
Speaker 3: So yeah, if nothing else, just so he can have
38:25
Speaker 3: a committed internet a blurb for some of his justifications
38:29
Speaker 3: for this and not just say read the book.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think we'll do that. This was a
38:34
Speaker 2: fun episode. We should wrap it up.
38:36
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, good time, good times. Yeah, I think,
38:39
Speaker 3: I don't think it. I'm definitely not sold on this
38:43
Speaker 3: as much as I want to be, because I mean, this,
38:45
Speaker 3: this ship is all, you know, in terms of.
38:49
Speaker 2: Super rad Yeah, I want to see a hell of dope. Yeah,
38:52
Speaker 2: but like last week with the Oklahoma City thing, there
38:55
Speaker 2: were at least.
38:56
Speaker 3: A couple there's a lot of loose ends that a
38:58
Speaker 3: lot of stuff in there there troubling, you know, and
39:01
Speaker 3: this just the three three suicides, two suicides, you know,
39:05
Speaker 3: shame on me. Three government cover up.
39:09
Speaker 2: This just seems like a bunch of space nerds kind
39:13
Speaker 2: of arguing over their interpretation of data that no one
39:16
Speaker 2: gives a shit about.
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Speaker 3: Well, the thing about, like you know, space ship is
39:20
Speaker 3: just by virtue of how expensive it is to launch
39:23
Speaker 3: probes and satellites and fucking you know, land on other
39:27
Speaker 3: bodies in the Solar system, even much less outside of
39:29
Speaker 3: our Solar system. You have a very limited amount of
39:31
Speaker 3: concrete data, right, So I mean, you know, it's not
39:35
Speaker 3: like something like geologyy, like oh you can go out
39:37
Speaker 3: to Death Valley and just start digging and fucking just
39:39
Speaker 3: you know, find out in six months. So people they
39:42
Speaker 3: get so excited and the ship's so interesting and it's
39:44
Speaker 3: tied to pieces of media that have affected people's lives.
39:48
Speaker 3: They just extrapolate the wildest conclusions because they're just waiting
39:51
Speaker 3: for the Oh man, I'm waiting for that fucking series
39:54
Speaker 3: probe to land on the door plan and bring back
39:56
Speaker 3: some ice samples, you know, so they just they just
39:58
Speaker 3: go over excited, I think, and it's just like, yeah,
40:00
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, it's it's fun to think about. But
40:03
Speaker 3: I mean, is it something that I would want to
40:05
Speaker 3: put a paper out and you know, justifying jeopardize my
40:09
Speaker 3: fucking reputation and you know, I would that should be
40:13
Speaker 3: in like the Marvel like what if comics? Like what
40:15
Speaker 3: if the Lacus was gay? Like oh, it sounds like
40:17
Speaker 3: a read that for five cents in nineteen sixty three.
40:20
Speaker 3: But I don't know if I want to put it
40:22
Speaker 3: out there officially.
40:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's uh, let's wrap up. Yeah, sometimes
40:27
Speaker 2: and we can get the fuck out of here. I
40:29
Speaker 2: got to record two more things today. Do you have
40:31
Speaker 2: anything to plug before we get out of here?
40:33
Speaker 3: Just my podcast Mean Boys, the scripted comedy podcast with
40:37
Speaker 3: you know, a stutter on that one too, And yeah,
40:39
Speaker 3: we got lots of games and jokes and sketches and whatnot,
40:41
Speaker 3: and it's very fun.
40:42
Speaker 2: Lots of Keith Carrey. He's doing list cast tomorrow.
40:45
Speaker 3: Oh that'll be fun. Yeah, yeah, he's got he's pop
40:49
Speaker 3: culture guy, so I mean he's good at list He's.
40:51
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40:59
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41:01
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41:06
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41:10
Speaker 2: all those things. And uh, I think that's it. I'm
41:13
Speaker 2: gonna wrap it up so I can start setting up
41:14
Speaker 2: for the next recording. Connor say goodbye, goodbye, goodbye, everybody.
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Speaker 7: We love you.