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Radio Ranch with Roger Sayles LIVE 102326 - The Office of Sheriff: Brent Winters and Dar Leaf on Common Law and County Authority · Global Voice Radio Network's tracks

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  Thank you so much for joining us, and welcome to the program.
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  Unknown: Well, Alvin,
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  a while, nice to hear you, Alvin. We would too. We're gonna attempt a little bit of that today
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  on a special day here at the Radio Ranch Roger Sales and Brent Winters, always on Friday's cohost, your your host.
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  And as I said, it's kinda special, the October 23 here.
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  A
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  year or so ago, we were talking with Brent on a Friday and and sheriff, Darleaf's name came up, and and he was able to come on with us for a while. Now he was paying... Playing granddaddy that day, if you'll remember,
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  and grandchildren
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  are often unpredictable,
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  I've heard. So he went away on some kind of an emergency with
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  with young grandchild and didn't... Wasn't able to come back until after I'd left anyway.
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  So the other day, last Friday, his name came up, and Brent said, hey. Sheriff Darcy, you'd like to come back on.
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  Good man. We've been waiting and we'd love to have him. So, hopefully, today, is Brent Brent's with us yet?
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  Unknown: No. Brent hadn't showed up yet. Okay. Well. Well, here in a minute. So. I
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  I was on the phone with him not six minutes ago
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  getting him all the links and stuff too.
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  Alright.
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  Unknown: To the show and all that. Gosh. Alright. So Anyway, here, I'm pretty sure. Pretty sure. Pretty sure he's gonna show up today with sheriff Darr.
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  And,
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  what a honor for us here, a little fledgling, a little radio show trying to show people how to get free of the onerous satanic federal government.
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  And, we run across,
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  not only Brent for many years we've been doing shows, but also people like sheriff Dara who is a... I'm sure most of you know him being redundant.
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  Is he not the longest
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  sitting elected sheriff in the country? Is that
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  correct? Or... Well, I guess we can ask him.
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  Anyway, he's got twenty years under his belt as a sheriff. Rog, the longest elected sheriff in Michigan history. Michigan.
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  Okay.
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  Okay. Dave, what's the county that the
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  Unknown: Berry.
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  Berry County, Michigan. And is that B E R...
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  Is that B E R R Y?
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  Yep.
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  Unknown: Okay. Berry County. That's easy to remember. It's kinda South
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  Unknown: Southeast
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  of
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  Unknown: Grand Rapids area. Uh-huh. They got a lot of berries up there. They grow berries?
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  Unknown: It's
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  a big farm country. It's a big county.
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  Unknown: Brent's here.
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  Unknown: Oh, okay. Brent showed up. Great. We're just kinda informing the audience. A little background. Berry County, Michigan would be sheriff Dahr's
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  hanging hanging grounds and...
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  Well, they must like him because they keep reelecting him. Okay? So,
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  so that in itself, and then and then he and mister Winters, our Friday cohost, developed
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  a relationship. And now they've been doing,
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  shows every week on Thursday for
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  quite a while, and there's a couple of years at least over very,
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  interesting top,
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  constitution, the declaration of independence, and they go into this.
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  His unique perspective as a constitutionally
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  oriented sheriff in Berry County comes into play there. Brent, did you did you show up, bud?
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  Unknown: Yeah. I'm here, Roger, and you're asking about Barry's. It's,
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  B A R R Y, Barry County, Michigan. Oh, okay. Not E. Okay. No. But the truth is, Roger, your question
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  arose probably because you, have it in your head. They grow a lot of blueberries up there, which they do. Okay. A lot of blueberries. Blueberry. Oh, yeah. And,
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  I think the county... Brewery County, just haven't known sheriff... Or haven't been there and visited with him and done things.
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  Burry County has a, I think,
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  over 300
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  lakes.
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  Lot of water up there, actually. Wow. A lot fishing country. Oh, fishing. When I was
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  a young ladybug growing up, if you wanna go deer hunting where where I was from,
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  you went to Michigan. Uh-huh. Because we didn't have any deer. There were enough people lived in the countryside
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  that
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  the wild critters got run out. Now where I'm from now,
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  oddly, because people
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  have vacated.
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  And like I say, where mankind vacates,
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  wild critters proliferate.
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  Yeah.
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  And the deer are over... You can't drive down the road without running over deer. Deer hunting's a big deal.
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  Not to mention,
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  other critters moving in like bears and all sorts of crazy things because... Yeah. Because people...
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  The farms have gotten bigger. The old homesteads are being... Are gone. You know?
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  And,
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  so the animals, come back. It's not like you can stop nature.
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  This is the fallacy of much environmentalism.
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  My granddad used to say there... Back in the sixties, these environmentalists
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  are crazier than a bedbug. We can't drive down the road without running over coons and possums and wolves and foxes and all those kind of animals, which were starting to come back then.
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  But,
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  anyway, but Barry County, getting the point. Barry County is is up there in Michigan. Sheriff Dard has been there for... I think he's in his sixth
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  term.
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  I'll tell you something. He's not here yet, apparently. Maybe he is. I'll tell you something about him so
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  people have an idea who he is.
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  I first came... Became acquainted with him,
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  about ten, fifteen years ago. I don't remember, and he invited me up to speak. And I ended up with him speaking
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  on the steps of the capital.
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  Well, I've... I felt like I I was given an honored position up there. Of course, I found out they hated me in the capital.
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  I hated him too, a lot of them. But but they like him in Barrie County because how do you how do you become a sheriff?
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  Now unlike Australia,
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  New Zealand, and England, and Scotland,
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  all these other places, the sheriffs in America
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  are pretty much like the sheriffs before the Norman invasion of ten sixty six. What I mean to say is they're appointed by the county and not by the the the governor or the king, so to speak, the chief executive,
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  and they still are the chief law enforcement officer of that bailiwick.
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  And the power of the sheriff to the rest of the English speaking world, they have sheriffs.
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  They've just... They're just figureheads, for example, in England. They're figureheads. Now
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  Unknown: Isn't... Can I interrupt you for just a second? Isn't the word itself sheriff derived from the Shire?
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  Correct. That that historical, like, you're nailing it there. But there's another... The the actual word that identifies it comes from the word Shire,
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  Unknown: and I feel like we're all hobbits now. Go ahead, dude. Well, the, yeah. On the... After the Norman invasion, the Shire, because the invaders were the invaders were Norwegians that had lived
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  on the coast of France for about...
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  For a hundred and sixty five years, and they'd picked up the French tongue.
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  And so when they... When Norman... When the Normans invaded under
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  Rufus, they called him William the Red,
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  by who... By the way, his ancestors
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  still sat on the throne. King Charlie
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  is a descendant
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  of William the first.
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  But when they invaded, they brought the French tongue with him, but it was a bastardized French tongue.
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  Those of the... You know, no no respectable Frenchman would speak Norman French.
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  But Norman French then,
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  because William the first declared our common law in full force, nothing's changing except...
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  Listen to this. This is fascinating.
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  Except
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  I will now appoint the sheriffs. But the common law was in full force and it's still enforced there. But because he said I'll appoint the sheriff, what he wanted was a...
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  Was an agent,
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  his agent,
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  his kept man
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  in each county to tell him what's going on. But he called them counties, but they were called Shire
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  Reeves,
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  R E E V S, because the word Reeves is an old Anglo
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  Scandinavian
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  word that means
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  agent.
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  The shire
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  Oh. And we've been... We started to slurring it, and now we slur it into sheriff. It's easier to say. Just sheriff. That's the Shire reeve, he's the agent. Now here's the question,
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  is he the agent of the crown
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  or is he the agent of the people of the Shire? See, that's
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  a fundamental
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  point. And so when we say constitutional
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  sheriff
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  in America, we're not saying the word sheriff's in the constitution because of the of The United States. It isn't.
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  But what we're saying is it is a constitutional office in the sense of of our common law in in most every state, and
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  and it's so foundational
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  to our constitution of The United States. The the American system, as we say,
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  the American tradition of religion, law, and government
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  is a local tradition of the county.
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  And as long as the the the chief executive officer of the county, the sheriff,
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  is chosen by the people of the county,
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  he's not beholden
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  politically
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  to the governor or the president or anybody else.
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  And he is the agent of the people. They delegate authority to him. That's the way we do it in America.
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  And he has...
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  He's the most powerful man in the county. There's no question about it,
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  and rightly so.
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  And that's why it's such an important position. Without it, we would go the way of the other English speaking
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  country world,
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  and we... Our common law would be vastly weakened.
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  With... And with it, all the freedoms of our common law that are part of our common law, including the second amendment, our constitution of The United States is a common law brief of government. What's that, Roger? Go ahead. Can I nitpick for just a second? Uh-huh. And could you bring in the coroner and his relationship?
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  Ain't that the most important man in the county? No. No. Yeah. And I want... And when sheriff Darra shows up, that's not about... I want him to do the talking people. Okay. Listening. But but I do wanna... I'll mention that, and then he can flesh it out when he gets here, if he's here. Somebody that can see him if he gets in, please pipe up. I called him this morning, and he's a he's a sitting sheriff, so he was in a meeting this morning when I called and he was kinda talking quiet. I I said, well, here's the Paul, he's
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  Unknown: he's the one to utter. Yes. Truthfully,
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  Unknown: we have no idea how he's coming in, so we have no idea what to look for.
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  Whether he's dialing in by phone or if he's coming in over Oh. The web browser.
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  Unknown: So Okay. Well, then I'll I'll take that responsibility and check-in with him here in a little bit. Okay. You you fellows can
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  continue to keep the talk rolling, but,
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  I was gonna say about the
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  Yeah. Just a minute, please. Now I'll just mention the coroner because Roger asked
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  about... The coroner is the second
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  most powerful
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  officer in the county at common law, and the coroner,
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  in most places,
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  steps into the sheriff's shoes if something happens to the sheriff. That's true. And the coroner,
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  that's a crown.
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  There's a connection to the crown of England. That's why it's called coroner.
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  That's why he's... There's a difference. But Uh-huh. I'll let sheriff Dart talk more about that. Somebody
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  Unknown: asked a question. Somebody was saying Brent. Who was that? Poor Brent. Yeah. It's Larry. How you doing? Hey, Larry. Hey. So
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  Unknown: a sheriff has jurisdiction in his county, the county that he was elected in.
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  And what happens if he's pursuing a bad guy or doing an investigation
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  and this person crosses the county lines,
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  I mean, where... How far could he
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  extend that jurisdiction into that other county? Does he have to immediately
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  contact the other sheriff and... Or does he automatically
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  Unknown: have, like, limited jurisdiction in the other county to subdue the bad guy? Or how does that all work? Well, I think you wanna wait and let sheriff Dara answer that question, Larry. Yeah. Think I can... But I can mention now, but sheriff Dara can flesh flesh it out. And it's called hot pursuit. Yes. And hot pursuit enables
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  the sheriff, of course, and it happens a lot.
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  You know, high speed chase, whatever,
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  into the next county. Now the doctrine of it... These are common law doctrines. The doctrine of comity,
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  c o m I t y Mhmm. Demands that when a sheriff does that at his first opportunity,
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  in hot pursuit, you wouldn't have the opportunity maybe, but his first opportunity,
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  and he'd want to contact the neighboring sheriff and say, I got a
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  man wanted for a felony, and he's racing across your county last seen. I need your help, but I'm here. You know, let him know type thing. And if he wants to help or can, he can... He will.
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  But then how far can he go? Can he chase him from here to eternity
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  to a
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  dangerous place like California,
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  for example?
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  Well, of course, if a man's wanted in one state, of course, at some point, it becomes a a point of... If he's going to another state, it becomes a point of
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  extradition because states are foreign countries.
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  Their
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  Unknown: Sovereignty is under our constitution. Go ahead. Different states have outlawed hot pursuit because it also endangers
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  further accidents.
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  California,
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  I think, is one of them. Oh, yeah. To some extent, I'm not sure what the barriers are, but there's some limitations on it that you can't chase him to Valhalla.
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  Unknown: Well,
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  heavy traffic, I've not heard that, but I know this. Hey, Brent. Yes.
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  Go ahead.
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  Unknown: So it it would be unlawful for a sheriff to act like Smokey and the Bandit going county to county, state to state?
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  Unknown: No. Not necessarily. I... There's no hot pursuit's hot pursuit, and that's an exception.
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  That's an exception under the Fourth Amendment even in
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  a lot of things. It... But the the more you... What what we... What me? I'm me. I'm a lawyer. All I wanna know
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  is the fundamental
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  first overarching fundamental first principle.
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  And as... And our common law
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  is not about
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  is not about,
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  here's a hard fact and there's no exception. No. Our common law is notoriously illogical
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  and notoriously
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  riddled with exceptions and always has been. Can we find out because our common law is about individual instances, not the broad brush
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  of legislation.
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  Unknown: Go ahead. Can we find out the background noise? It's extremely distracting,
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  please. There's
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  mumbling and and other things and trying to make these points on important points. And Before?
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  Know sometimes that's accidental, but please be conscious of it. Where I'm at.
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  Unknown: I mute anybody though, Roger, I would like to confirm that it's not sheriff.
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  And it is a
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  five eight six area code. Uh-huh.
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  Unknown: Was that Michigan?
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  I don't have any idea. Five eight six. Anyway, if you could make sure you got your star six done, you got some ambient noise, children, whatever in the background. It distracts. Michigan. There could be somebody I invited.
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  Okay. We'll see. One of the... If just... If you're five Star six. Just star six, and there's ambient noise in the background.
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  And, otherwise, we can mute you,
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  and we might have to resort to that.
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  Unknown: And Do
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  Unknown: we get it right there? Yeah. I muted them. I muted them because I figured they had enough time. They're not really paying attention evidently, Mike. Good enough. Well, thank you, Lisa. Okay. And I'm sorry to interrupt, but that's just real distracting to me, and I understand all the background. Go ahead, Brent, please. I was hoping it was sheriff Darleaf. Yeah. Right. Back to the... So sheriff Darleaf,
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  Unknown: when the election of twenty twenty occurred,
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  it's incredible the... How how powerful political correctness is.
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  And as you remember,
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  if you said that the election... There was election fraud,
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  you're labeled as a anti Semite conspiracy
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  theorist, a white supremacist. A terrorist and a white supremacist.
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  That's that's insane.
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  But sheriff Daher was, he got investigating
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  in his own county,
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  and he he he dove
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  deep in some rabbit holes. Still doing it. Yep. Still doing it after all of these years and because it's still a big question in his investigation and what he's done is connected...
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  Has connected to Washington DC. Of course,
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  president Trump is being maligned by everybody who loved him before. That's normal in politics.
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  That's not abnormal.
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  I recognize it. Sure. And and
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  and president
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  Trump is still pursuing a lot of things for all of the...
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  All of his criticism by those that did support him.
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  He's pursuing a lot of things that are good, and... But nobody's reporting it. It's behind the scenes.
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  I'm not I'm not set against him at this point. I'm... I've noticed most other people are.
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  Sheriff Darleaf is still in the circles that are investigating election fraud,
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  sheriff the sheriff, sheriff Darlieff because of the Trump
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  election,
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  the presidential election.
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  And sheriff Darlieff has,
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  been pursued criminally.
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  In other words, they tried to indict him with grand juries and all sorts of shenanigans,
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  contrary to our common law. Vicious and ugly.
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  Yeah. A sheriff is the... Has investigatory
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  powers. Now if the sheriff doesn't investigate
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  election fraud in his county, who's gonna do that?
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  And the answer is nobody, hardly, and nobody else gonna do it. And, he did. If the feds won't do it, if the state won't do it, and then this case, they wouldn't,
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  then he did it. So he's still doing it. He's... He... But you gotta... In politics, and that's what a sheriff is. He's he's a political figure in the sense that he has to run for office.
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  And so that means you're under the danger of politics. Politics knows no bounds
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  for viciousness
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  and knows no bounds to what it can get done and how it can ruin a man. And,
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  those that have not run for office
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  don't understand that the way those have run for office. Some of them are evil hearted scoundrels. They understand it though. Don't think they don't. Some of them are right headed. Some of them are long... Wrong headed. There are only two options, friends. You're either right headed or wrong headed. And if you're hanging in the middle, you'll eventually go one way or the other.
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  That'll happen. And
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  everybody in politics that's been there for any length of time knows the game.
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  And they play it.
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  But it's the same game no matter which direction you're going.
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  But you're trying to do good things if you're going the right direction. You're trying to do evil things if you're going the wrong direction. And in the meantime,
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  you're playing politics.
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  That means the truth is not in it anywhere.
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  I mean,
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  no place.
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  And that is what causes all the confusion and people hating Trump, and, Trump's in war.
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  Unknown: I don't... He's not gonna do everything right, but he's fighting. Go ahead, Roger. I was gonna say I was a big Trump supporter, and I don't hate him. I I kinda take Alex Jones' position. I've done it publicly on here too. Mhmm.
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  It's like, I'm I'm calling balls and strikes. If he...
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  He's not doing everything we wanted, there's been some good things there. When he does something good, you go attaboy and try and and simulate
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  more.
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  Unknown: And if it didn't, you try and criticize him and get him back in the attaboy camp. I'm good with that, Roger. And a man that's had four attempts on his life and pretty close calls, it it changes your whole point of view and you get so... You're not worried about what other people are saying. Yeah. Especially if you know this is your last term. Now all we can hope at this point is, and it's a good hope, that he's right headed. Either he is or he isn't.
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  But he's not worried about anybody knowing it at this point.
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  He's not worried about political polls.
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  So that's what we Hey, Brent. We... Yes. Go ahead.
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  Unknown: Yeah. I was gonna say, what what are your thoughts on... You know, it... The... This talk goes around the this talk goes yeah. Around
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  Unknown: Larry, let's see if we can get sheriff Dara on the program before we burn up the entire half
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  hour.
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  Unknown: Yeah. Let's do... And I appreciate your question, Larry. So, Larry, if you'd hold your question,
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  I'll get off for a while and try to try to see if I can find him. Is that a good idea?
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  Unknown: Sure.
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  Check-in. It's 10:20.
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  Just about the bottom of the hour. A little bit shy.
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  Unknown: And if he dialed in, just let him know that...
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  If he dialed in, just let him know if he presses 6,
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  he can unmute his microphone and then speak up.
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  Unknown: Okay. Thank you, Paul. Alright. Well, you fellas, go ahead. Okay. Thank you. Oh, now I'm unmuted.
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  Okay. There... Somebody's unmuted. There he is. He heard he heard Paul say 6,
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  and I know.
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  Unknown: Oh, I've here
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  Unknown: for about
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  eleven minutes now. So Oh, okay. Well,
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  Unknown: welcome. First of all, let me say welcome, sheriff Darn. It's really a privilege and an honor to have you back.
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  Unknown: Oh, yeah. Good to be back.
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  Unknown: And there's one thing I wanted to ask you about is what Brent had launched into right here is this case that you're involved in. I have heard
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  Alex Jones. I've heard your name mentioned on the Alex Jones show at least twice.
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  And you get up to that level and they're throwing your name around, you've really done something.
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  Unknown: I just mean the ruffled feathers.
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  Unknown: Yes.
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  Congratulations.
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  We like that. Yeah. Thanks.
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  Unknown: I figured I wasn't doing my job if I wasn't rub... Ruffling some feathers because Amen. We do. We have we have two. We got good versus evil going on right now. Yes.
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  Unknown: Yes. Well, since you and Brent know each other so well and have done so much in the past together, I'm just turning it back over to Brent. He was about to leave and go check on you. So, Brent, where you were talking about the case, you and sheriff Darr pick it up and
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  roll on, brothers.
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  Unknown: Well, let me make one more point. I've introduced
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  some things about him. Sheriff Darr and I
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  teach law classes together
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  at Winter's Inn. The website is commonlawyer.com.
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  And it it seems a little odd to me that, I've met very few, if any, lawyers that I can really buddy with.
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  And, a sheriff Dyer is not a lawyer, but he's a he's a magistrate as the old timers used to call him and an important one.
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  And he's spent his his career trying to understand things I've tried to understand. We've gone down two different roads,
• 25:34
  and we come together, and he's very practical, of course, because he's not bookish. Well, he is bookish when he needs to be, but he's also,
• 25:43
  had,
• 25:44
  boots on the ground experience with our common law. And it's it's amazing
• 25:49
  to me. And no matter what I talk about and when we're teaching the classes,
• 25:53
  then I can count on him. I mean, always to... Burtina always to say, we all had some experience with that. You know, I'm talking about... We're talking about our common law. And he has been interested in it ever since he's been, in law enforcement in the sheriff's office, and he continues to pursue and understand it as do I. I don't know it all, obviously.
• 26:14
  That'd be silly to say.
• 26:16
  So sheriff Darr, here you are.
• 26:19
  And I
• 26:21
  said last time we talked off the air, said, well, that'd be a good thing to talk about.
• 26:26
  And I wanna leave it up to you to what you think is important to talk about because you are closer to some of this madness than I am
• 26:34
  because,
• 26:35
  of course, they've come after you. They... Those guys, the useful idiots of the evil empire,
• 26:41
  please launch off and tell us what you know about election fraud
• 26:45
  and
• 26:46
  what your experiences have been.
• 26:48
  And if I I have questions or somebody else has questions they wanna put in the chat, I'll look at them, and maybe I can then...
• 26:56
  If I think we have time, pass them on to you. So
• 27:00
  you have the floor, sheriff. What's important?
• 27:04
  Unknown: Well, first of all, election fraud, you gotta... If there's an election, there can be cheating somewhere by someone. Yeah. Amen. It's been like that. That's been Abraham
• 27:12
  Lincoln, the constitutional sheriff and peace officers association has a little video on it, and it's very well done.
• 27:19
  And you're talking about how, like, the mail in started and who cheated where paying
• 27:24
  immigrants
• 27:26
  to vote.
• 27:27
  And,
• 27:28
  you know, there's a reason why we have laws in there. Like,
• 27:32
  if you're an election watcher
• 27:34
  or a poll watcher or a poll challenger or anything like that,
• 27:40
  you
• 27:42
  cannot be helping people vote. You cannot be over there and standing over the top of them. Well, they even have it in there in the law that
• 27:49
  a
• 27:50
  union representative can't be standing over you and telling you how to vote.
• 27:54
  So there's the reason why those laws are there and it's because people
• 27:57
  have abused their positions.
• 28:00
  And then it gets even a little bit deeper than that because
• 28:04
  most of the people when they run for office have no idea what their authority is or what their duty is. They have no idea about the common law.
• 28:11
  They run for office because they have an axe to grind. And I think I've discussed this with you before, Brent, the the no shit phase.
• 28:18
  And
• 28:19
  I don't know if you guys know what that is. If you go into an office because you wanna make these changes and you got this big axe to grind and you get in there and you find out the law won't let you make those changes and you go, oh, no shit.
• 28:29
  So the whole reason why you ran,
• 28:32
  you you can't make those changes, and that's quite common.
• 28:36
  And
• 28:38
  people don't understand. Like, I... When I ran for sheriff, I knew it was something more than another police chief.
• 28:43
  I wanted to know what it meant to be the chief law enforcement officer, the chief conservator of the peace.
• 28:48
  And I I still pursue those things because,
• 28:52
  like Brent said, in the common law, it's... A lot of it's kinda muddy waters.
• 28:57
  And
• 28:58
  let's let's go into like a
• 29:02
  commissioners,
• 29:02
  board of commissioners.
• 29:04
  They get in there. They think their job is all about, you know, telling them what to fear up and then got the
• 29:09
  and all the other elected have to spend and they're
• 29:13
  running the parks and all this stuff. Well,
• 29:16
  when our governor come down on all these executive orders,
• 29:19
  often they're locked up just following these orders by the governor.
• 29:23
  And then a lot of them were really mad at me because I'm sitting here, woah. Woah. Time out, guys.
• 29:28
  Delegated her any authority to make these orders.
• 29:32
  And they don't understand delegation.
• 29:34
  And
• 29:35
  and even goes in with a clerk's office. They don't understand that they really don't answer to the judge. They're an independent elected office. What does that mean?
• 29:43
  So
• 29:44
  I got involved with
• 29:46
  an attorney by the name of Carson Tucker, and Carson's a common law attorney.
• 29:50
  And, he did a PowerPoint for the, Michigan Sheriff's Association.
• 29:55
  And,
• 29:56
  during his PowerPoint, I'm going, hey. I remember I remember reading that. I remember reading this. And then he brought a bunch of other stuff that I didn't know about.
• 30:03
  So we kinda made that merger between the two of us,
• 30:06
  and I started working on my own PowerPoint.
• 30:09
  And, then I got involved with sheriff Richard Mack and the constitutional sheriff and the peace officers association.
• 30:15
  And that's where I got most of my actual training and... From from attorneys who were common law attorneys, constitutionalists.
• 30:23
  And sheriff Mac is
• 30:25
  known for the Mac Prince versus US case, which is probably the largest tenth amendment victory we've ever had in the country's history.
• 30:35
  Unknown: So I'm going with all this. Yeah. Go ahead, doc. Why don't you just keep going?
• 30:40
  Unknown: Where I'm going with all this is this is what I did to learn my job, and there is resources out there for me to learn how to do this. There's not resources out there how to be a township supervisor.
• 30:52
  What is your proper role in government?
• 30:55
  So did the townships ever stand up when the governor's throwing these executive orders out and ordering people to mask and get vaxxed and all that stuff? No. They just did lockstep thinking the governor had that authority.
• 31:06
  Oh, wait a minute. If we're divided among sovereigns in three branches,
• 31:10
  what does that mean?
• 31:12
  And that's a Mac Prince case. And justice Scalia, probably one of the best justices in my lifetime,
• 31:19
  when he explained that in that Mac Prince case.
• 31:22
  So I ran with that and tried to educate other sheriffs and other
• 31:26
  elected
• 31:27
  officers.
• 31:28
  But, hey.
• 31:30
  Nowhere does anybody have this authority to start ordering the public around like this.
• 31:35
  I've I've never read it,
• 31:37
  and I don't think it exists. But now you got our own
• 31:43
  our own legislature that back in the forties gave up their duty to legislate
• 31:48
  and put it all in the executive under these emergency orders. I go, wait a minute.
• 31:53
  They got this thing called the 12 maximum laws, and I think that's number eight, and you can't do that.
• 31:58
  So
• 32:01
  I've I've had quite the education going on this, and my pet peeve is is all these other elected offices
• 32:08
  have not. And they go in there blind, and they go in there so willing just to take a knee and kiss a ring.
• 32:14
  So I yield to that, and so we've got more questions. And
• 32:17
  Unknown: Well, sheriff, when you started and when you ran for sheriff,
• 32:24
  would you put yourself in the category of being ignorant of what you were supposed to do
• 32:30
  when that started. And
• 32:32
  you...
• 32:33
  Were you on a quest to find out the the only way you can find... There was no place to go to school to learn how to be a sheriff, was there?
• 32:41
  Unknown: I would... No. There was no... We have a new sheriff school,
• 32:45
  but it's not the depth that I took into it.
• 32:48
  You know? Yeah. We have that Anderson's book on sheriff here in the sheriff's office here.
• 32:53
  Mhmm. And there are two volumes there. And when I was going to the new sheriff school, we were told to ignore that because it was bad information. I go, what? What? Oh, I hadn't heard you say that. Well, this is Anderson on the sheriff. I'm looking at it here. Is it... Although I have one volume, not two.
• 33:09
  Unknown: But that was written back, when was it, 1941,
• 33:12
  this publication.
• 33:13
  Mhmm. And
• 33:15
  it's comprehensive.
• 33:18
  I've not seen anything that's bad information. I...
• 33:21
  I'm just kinda surprised, sheriff Darr, that they would say that, but it makes a point. If somebody starts a school to teach
• 33:28
  sheriffs,
• 33:29
  it depends upon if they're teaching them right or wrong. You...
• 33:33
  It it it not just... The answer isn't education.
• 33:37
  The answer is the right education, and that hardly... That never happens at government expense, by the way. The right education never happens at government expense. They're gonna teach you things that will empower government if the government's paying for it. Keep that in mind. Yeah. Didn't... Isn't the definitive overview of the UCC Anderson on the UCC?
• 33:58
  Unknown: Is this the same organization
• 33:59
  Unknown: or guy? Oh, I don't know that, Roger. I've never heard that one. Who I I don't know.
• 34:05
  No. Interesting. This is Clyde Bowen and Anderson and Clyde Bowen. Clyde Bowen was from the Idaho,
• 34:12
  a lawyer in Idaho, and Anderson
• 34:15
  was a
• 34:17
  lawyer in a lot of places, Idaho,
• 34:20
  California,
• 34:20
  Tennessee,
• 34:22
  of course, some of the
• 34:24
  bigger courts, Supreme Court. But these fellows,
• 34:28
  here's the bottom line.
• 34:30
  Sheriff... Well, sheriff Dara, here I am. See, I'm so used to talking.
• 34:34
  I just started talking. I don't wanna do that.
• 34:36
  Sheriff Dara, so you you
• 34:38
  went in
• 34:40
  in the... Into it. How old were you when you first became sheriff?
• 34:44
  Unknown: I was 38.
• 34:47
  Unknown: Now you... Do you consider... Did you do you consider yourself at that point
• 34:52
  wet behind the ears and not sure what a sheriff was?
• 34:55
  Unknown: Now let me put it this way. I ran
• 34:59
  because of a lot of the corruption and a lot of the
• 35:03
  laws for the but not for me type thing.
• 35:06
  And we had a we had a sheriff who's known for drinking and driving.
• 35:10
  And...
• 35:12
  Oh, yeah. Yeah. And then
• 35:15
  people would turn their back on it. We we had that quite a bit here at the sheriff's office before I even started as a... Even a deputy back in '89.
• 35:23
  And
• 35:25
  so I ran. I got tired of it. I got tired of it. Scratch my back, scratch yours rather than people being able to earn their way up. Uh-huh.
• 35:32
  It was it was embarrassing.
• 35:34
  So I ran, and I went from deputy. I was never a sergeant, lieutenant, kept nothing. I went from deputy all the way up to sheriff.
• 35:42
  So
• 35:43
  Unknown: Mhmm.
• 35:44
  Unknown: Yeah. You mentioned wet behind the ears. Uh-huh. Remember January 1, I walked into this office. The desk was clear.
• 35:51
  Put my feet up on the desk, and I said, now what do I do?
• 35:57
  Unknown: Light up for you.
• 36:00
  Unknown: Luck... Luckily, I hired myself a very effective understurf.
• 36:03
  Oh. And and that... That's so true. You gotta surround yourself with good people.
• 36:09
  Yeah. I've I've I've got
• 36:12
  I've got my fourth understuriff right now,
• 36:15
  and every one of them I've told, if you don't have the... Excuse my French gun this, but if you don't have the balls to come into my office and tell me when I'm out of line,
• 36:24
  you're useless to me.
• 36:26
  Unknown: Uh-huh.
• 36:27
  Unknown: I I need that just like anybody else would. You know, I'm a human being.
• 36:32
  So you're under Yeah.
• 36:34
  Go ahead. Go ahead. I say you have to be on the same page morality with morals.
• 36:38
  You have to be on the same page with your ethics. You have to be on the same page with your... Just basically all your beliefs.
• 36:44
  Unknown: Okay.
• 36:45
  So your undersheriff, was he somebody who was more experienced than you, a deputy before and a sergeant and all that stuff?
• 36:52
  Unknown: Yeah. Yeah. He was a sergeant. I took it from Battle Creek.
• 36:56
  He came highly recommended. I needed somebody who was a,
• 37:01
  how do you say,
• 37:03
  a stick, basically.
• 37:05
  Mhmm. And we... Because we had some internal problems that were really bad.
• 37:09
  Uh-huh. And
• 37:11
  when he started, it was kinda funny. I actually told him, I said, I'm not gonna tell you who the problem children were
• 37:16
  because I want you to figure it out. Because if I'm wrong, I need you to tell me. And it didn't take him two weeks, and he come on in and says, oh, you got a mess here. And he started rattling off the names. I'm going, okay. I'm not wrong.
• 37:27
  Mhmm. Mhmm.
• 37:28
  Unknown: Alright. So when you got in and you were in in... Even in the small rural county, how many people live in your county?
• 37:36
  Unknown: About 63,000.
• 37:38
  Unknown: That's pretty small comparatively.
• 37:40
  I've known some 10,000,
• 37:42
  those kind of things, but that's pretty small. So you get in,
• 37:45
  and,
• 37:47
  is your job... Even though it's a small county, is your job
• 37:50
  also the public face of the sheriff's department and the public,
• 37:55
  mouth?
• 37:57
  Unknown: Oh, absolutely.
• 37:58
  Unknown: So you spend a lot of your time,
• 38:01
  and I use this word in the positive sense,
• 38:04
  as a political figure.
• 38:07
  Unknown: Yeah. You can't get away from that.
• 38:09
  Unknown: Do you like that part of it?
• 38:11
  Unknown: Most of the time.
• 38:13
  Unknown: You... In other words, you like you like to go talk to people. And when I first met you, we were... You and I were invited out to a
• 38:21
  farmhouse out in the middle of nowhere, and a few 100 people showed up. And they had chairs out on the lawn, and they fed us. I remember the ear corn was real good and the succotash and all that. But
• 38:33
  I... And I didn't know you that well. And you stood up.
• 38:37
  They asked us both to say something, and you stood up and started talking.
• 38:42
  And I was pleasantly surprised to discover that
• 38:44
  you acted like it was just another day of the office to stand up in front of a crowd of a couple of 100 and and just
• 38:52
  talk.
• 38:53
  And I said to myself at the time,
• 38:56
  and I'm not flattering you. I'm just saying it has to be this way.
• 39:00
  If you can't do that and just be comfortable with people, they're
• 39:04
  not gonna
• 39:05
  relate to you as much. Has
• 39:07
  that been your experience?
• 39:10
  Unknown: Yeah. And I... I've heard all this stuff too where you gotta be dressed up all the time and you gotta look so professional.
• 39:16
  Well, I did that at first, and then when I started wearing... Like, I'd go to a restaurant, wear shorts and a T shirt. Mhmm. People felt more comfortable talking to me when I was in a shorts and T shirt, and I was all dressed up, looking all professional.
• 39:28
  And those are the people I wanted to reach out to because they don't they don't have much of a voice.
• 39:33
  Unknown: That... So when a Michigander,
• 39:35
  a native of Michigan, took me up there from down home,
• 39:39
  and he wanted to take me around, and then we met you because I wanted to stop and see you. And you showed up at a ice cream kind of a restaurant out in the middle of nowhere
• 39:48
  when you're...
• 39:49
  You're you're dressed pretty pretty raggedy, I remember.
• 39:53
  And...
• 39:54
  Yeah. And I... It surprised me a little, but you're saying that's... You don't mind doing that? And and a matter of fact, you think that it helps just because you don't you don't wanna dress up anyway,
• 40:05
  Unknown: probably. Oh,
• 40:07
  I never was a big Thai person.
• 40:09
  Unknown: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Somebody... Whoever admitted those ties ought to have been shot or hung. That's been my thing. I get that. Well, okay. Sure. Be... They'd be hung with them. Go ahead. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
• 40:23
  So
• 40:24
  sheriff Dara, one of the questions that came up somewhere was,
• 40:28
  are you gonna run again? And I said, I don't know what he's gonna do. It has to do with him and his wife, I'm sure. But are you gonna run again, or do you know?
• 40:36
  Unknown: No. I... Looking for a replacement, but, yeah, this will be my last term. It's it's term number six.
• 40:42
  And...
• 40:43
  But we do four year terms. So I've I've got more years as a sheriff than I do as a deputy now.
• 40:49
  Unknown: Uh-huh. Now we had a... Go ahead. Let me ask you a question, if I may. What are you contemplating doing afterwards? Or is that dust still up in the air?
• 41:01
  Unknown: Well,
• 41:04
  my son died, so we're taking care of my grandson.
• 41:07
  Unknown: Oh,
• 41:08
  okay. I'm so sorry.
• 41:10
  Unknown: Yeah. Yeah.
• 41:11
  But
• 41:13
  you
• 41:14
  gonna do that, but are you still gonna be involved in
• 41:17
  other things in a more leisurely manner, other things that have to do with public public life, or do you know?
• 41:25
  Unknown: Well, my game plan now is to get my grandson up to age, and then I will start
• 41:30
  kinda... Guiding him around the importance of local government.
• 41:34
  Mhmm. You know? People...
• 41:36
  There's a there's a push to get rid of our township government, and I'm going, oh, no. No. No. If you do anything, let's cut state and federal government. Let's keep the keep the government as local as possible because it's closer to the people. That's right. And all politics is local.
• 41:49
  Unknown: Mhmm. Yeah. I've often heard.
• 41:52
  Unknown: Now explain if you would... Thank you for saying that, Roger.
• 41:57
  That's what we're driving at here. Explain,
• 41:59
  how it works. It's a little bit different in Michigan. Of course,
• 42:03
  the undersheriff is an official office there. Is that right?
• 42:06
  That's a mandated office. Yes. Yeah. And and Arizona, when I was out there, we had undersheriffs.
• 42:12
  Unknown: But the undersheriffs in there... Go ahead. What's that? Let me explain something to everybody because Alright. Yeah. I I I mentioned the sheriff unit, chief law enforcement officer, and we got prosecutors around here who's, oh, no. We're the chief. And I go, no. You're not. Because,
• 42:27
  Brent, it breaks down to what we've been teaching for years about the militia.
• 42:30
  Mhmm. You you were the chief conservatives of the police or the chief law enforcement officer,
• 42:35
  and you got a president and a vice president. Two mandatory positions in our constitution.
• 42:40
  Mhmm. Because you have your executive. If anything happens to your executive, then you have the number two in command that can take over. And that's how important these positions are. And
• 42:50
  and who's the president? He's the commander in chief of the military and of the militia.
• 42:55
  Unknown: Mhmm.
• 42:56
  Unknown: You go into the governor. There's a governor and there's a lieutenant governor, both executive officers, chief executive for the state.
• 43:03
  Something happens to the governor. We got the lieutenant governor can fill in.
• 43:06
  What's your governor in charge of? The molesque of the of the state. Mhmm. Let's go down to the sheriff.
• 43:13
  They're at the county level. I can't say go down. Let's go over because there's no such thing as up or down and stuff.
• 43:18
  Mhmm. It's it's a job that you're you're hired to do. So let's go to the county. You have a sheriff and a mandated undersheriff.
• 43:26
  What is a sheriff in charge of? The militia or what we call the posse.
• 43:31
  Maintaining the peace, posse comatatus.
• 43:33
  So I wanna get that straight through everybody's head like that that these these are positioned
• 43:38
  for a reason.
• 43:40
  Unknown: Mhmm.
• 43:41
  Well, thanks, sheriff. Well, I want you to say those kind of things, and sheriff
• 43:45
  Dar and I taught a class on the
• 43:48
  power of the sheriff, and that power of the sheriff is English translation of
• 43:53
  posse.
• 43:54
  Posse is
• 43:56
  power. And we we went through all that, and and we tried to stress that if the posse or the militiamen
• 44:03
  is not under command of the sheriff,
• 44:05
  the governor, or the president of The United States, that's not a militia... That's not that's not proper.
• 44:11
  And
• 44:12
  we stressed authority delegated.
• 44:15
  Thank you again.
• 44:17
  And you can take those courses, by the way. They're all in the can audio and visual at commonlawyer.com.
• 44:22
  Do you hear what sheriff Darr?
• 44:24
  I remember where I was. I was traveling, teaching those classes, sheriff, and I learned so much.
• 44:32
  Teaching, you know, there's there's two ways to learn. It's to listen to somebody teach and to teach. And you learn far more teaching than you do being taught, but you learn a lot being taught too. So
• 44:45
  the idea is to get taught, learn, and then start talking about it to other people.
• 44:50
  And it's no secret in my life that I've concluded after all these decades that the sheriff is key
• 44:56
  to changing and maintaining our country, and it's... The evil empire wants to keep that quiet.
• 45:03
  Don't say much about the posse. Tell us about the posse in your county,
• 45:07
  sheriff Dara, because you've done a little bit different things there too.
• 45:12
  Unknown: Oh, we got...
• 45:14
  It's under the Posse Comitatta Flaws.
• 45:16
  Uh-huh.
• 45:18
  This sheriff is the
• 45:20
  minor in chief of of your local Posse.
• 45:23
  Mhmm. And we've had a Posse since 1955,
• 45:25
  and we're up right around 20 to 25 members.
• 45:30
  We used to have horses when I first started here, but then I kinda phased on out. And I joke around, we went from horses that ate and pooped to Kawasaki mules.
• 45:39
  So,
• 45:42
  anyways,
• 45:44
  I do... They have a arrest authority
• 45:48
  under my authority,
• 45:50
  but they have to have some type of radio or
• 45:52
  radio contact or
• 45:55
  physical contact with me or one of my deputies.
• 45:58
  Mhmm.
• 45:59
  And you don't really have to overthink it. It's the... They do a lot of security for us for, like, football games.
• 46:04
  We're we're a big wrestling county,
• 46:07
  and the
• 46:08
  wrestling meets, you can fill up a gymnasium, and it could be minus 10 degrees outside, and inside the gymnasium will be 80 degrees just from body heat.
• 46:17
  And
• 46:19
  so, anyways, they do stuff like that for me. The... We have fair for the four h,
• 46:25
  and
• 46:26
  they do the security all week for the fair.
• 46:28
  Lately, we've been getting these big concerts. They help us out with the security in these concerts,
• 46:33
  and they're basically an arm of the sheriff.
• 46:36
  Unknown: Okay. Well, now then we
• 46:39
  we went through these things, and I learned about the power of the deputy.
• 46:44
  How much power does a sheriff by law, just by them being a deputy,
• 46:49
  how much power
• 46:51
  is delegated to a deputy
• 46:54
  that the sheriff has been given by the people of this county?
• 46:57
  Unknown: That's whatever the sheriff wants to delegate to him.
• 47:00
  Unknown: Alright. Now we'd talk... For example, you have township
• 47:05
  government
• 47:05
  in your county, and you have... In a rural county, you have township
• 47:10
  policemen. Isn't that right?
• 47:12
  That's correct. And and what's the relationship, and how does that flesh out and play out with your relationship with these deputies in the town... Little townships
• 47:22
  around?
• 47:23
  Unknown: Yeah. We get along great. I mean, it's...
• 47:26
  Again, I... It's...
• 47:28
  To me, it's local government, whether it's law enforcement or whether it's local.
• 47:32
  And
• 47:33
  it's so important to me anyways that you get to know your community, and you can only do it when your community is smaller.
• 47:40
  Mhmm.
• 47:41
  Unknown: Well, do you delegate...
• 47:43
  Do you deputize these
• 47:44
  policemen that are... When we made this distinction when we talked to class, you got your peace officers, that's the sheriff and his deputies.
• 47:53
  Then we had the police officers,
• 47:56
  and there's a difference. So we went through all that. But do you ever deputize the police officers in your... In the townships?
• 48:03
  Unknown: That is correct.
• 48:05
  Unknown: Why... And now something happened here. At the time I
• 48:09
  went up to see you three, four years ago,
• 48:13
  you told me of an incident where there was a threat at a school,
• 48:18
  and you deputized
• 48:20
  the policeman of the township, maybe it was only one or two,
• 48:23
  so that they could deal with it. Can you tell about that story a little bit?
• 48:29
  Unknown: Oh, no. It wasn't really a school. It was a American...
• 48:32
  Was was it American Legion or what's the other one? They have the Oh,
• 48:36
  Unknown: VFW?
• 48:37
  Unknown: VFW. Yes. It was a VFW down in Dalton.
• 48:40
  And there is a
• 48:42
  soldier
• 48:44
  who is doing a lot of huffing of these,
• 48:47
  we used call them whippets, but it's that gas juice for, like, cake decorating and stuff like that. That... And that'll give you quite a buzz. I get the can to get something Helium.
• 48:57
  Helium. Is it helium? I'm I'm not sure if it's the helium. Oh, maybe not. Okay. Go ahead. It's the gas that uses to project the
• 49:05
  the frosting out for, like, cake decorating and stuff like that. Yeah. Okay.
• 49:10
  So, anyways,
• 49:12
  one of the police chiefs down there
• 49:15
  called in sick.
• 49:17
  And she says, of course,
• 49:19
  call in sick. And actually I'm getting a phone call. She said, this gave me that rotten gut feeling that, hey, I had to go to work sick today.
• 49:27
  And sure enough,
• 49:28
  there was a guy who lived up outside of their townships that was
• 49:34
  getting ready to go and
• 49:37
  basically
• 49:37
  kill the
• 49:40
  cook... Wait... Cook's cook's last waitress at the VFW.
• 49:44
  And
• 49:45
  I had four of those guys in already,
• 49:48
  the two township police chiefs, and they managed to
• 49:51
  stop this guy. When they caught him, he was pulling into the VFW. That's how close we came. Oh.
• 49:58
  Unknown: You had... That you'd... Oh, this... Lisa says knock... Nitrous
• 50:03
  oxide.
• 50:04
  Unknown: Yes. That's a nitrous oxide, I think. Okay.
• 50:07
  Unknown: Well... And I don't see any questions in the chat. If somebody has one, I'm not saying I'll ask it because I I wanna screen things in case there's somebody out there that's trying to cause trouble. But please put your questions over here, and maybe we can get the good sheriff
• 50:25
  respond.
• 50:27
  Well, sheriff, so you do deputize.
• 50:29
  And the deputies, I remember you saying this, and we'd look... I'd looked it up, and you apparently knew it. The deputy has
• 50:38
  when you deputize him, unless you say otherwise,
• 50:41
  respond to what I'm saying. Unless you say otherwise, he has all the power that you have as sheriff. Is that true?
• 50:49
  Unknown: Yep. Yes.
• 50:51
  It depends on what I deputize him for. So I can give a deputy all the power I have or I can give him limited power. Okay. You... You're restricted to
• 50:59
  handling school
• 51:01
  liaison
• 51:03
  stuff.
• 51:03
  Uh-huh. So I'm not gonna be deputized. You go handle a murder. I'm not gonna go, you know, that type of stuff.
• 51:08
  Uh-huh. I can deputize posse. I deputize them. Uh-huh. They only have arrest authority when they're with another deputy or within radio contact of us. And Uh-huh.
• 51:19
  With a... For these township
• 51:21
  police chief, I gave them full deputy status.
• 51:24
  I don't give deputy status to their their their officers. I just give it to the police chief.
• 51:30
  Unknown: Mhmm.
• 51:31
  Unknown: Then when we were handling the election fraud, I had some volunteers coming in. I gave them deputy status for investigations
• 51:38
  because you're...
• 51:40
  If if you didn't, they'd have to be...
• 51:42
  Get licensed to be a private detective or something like that. So I gave them the authority
• 51:48
  to handle investigations
• 51:49
  because when you handle investigation, you're crying into people's lives.
• 51:53
  Unknown: Uh-huh.
• 51:54
  Well,
• 51:57
  can you tell me...
• 51:59
  Tell us more about
• 52:03
  the
• 52:04
  attacks that you received
• 52:07
  if you're able. I don't want you to talk about things you don't think you should talk about, of course. So... But if so, can you tell us about the attacks you received
• 52:15
  when you took on
• 52:18
  an expert
• 52:20
  in election law
• 52:23
  machines
• 52:24
  to do your investigation into election
• 52:27
  fraud, election machines, what do you... Whatever you call them, voting machines.
• 52:32
  Yeah. And he...
• 52:33
  Well, tell us about that. See, I'm stumbling for words. I don't know about it, but you've been into it a long time. Please, if you can, tell us about your experiences with that and what the response
• 52:43
  of the of the
• 52:46
  the left was?
• 52:48
  Unknown: Well, why don't we talk a little bit about the screw ups that the state and federal government had done? I don't know if it was intentional or not, but when the twenty twenty election come around and we all saw that in the middle of the night where these computers all shut down. And when they kicked back on, they had this...
• 53:03
  They had this... They charted it on out. They had this chart where there's a spike straight up for Joe Biden.
• 53:09
  And after that, Joe Biden walked off with the election.
• 53:12
  And...
• 53:14
  Am I still in?
• 53:16
  Hello?
• 53:18
  Yes. Can you hear me? Yes. On my phone, something popped up. Right? And you guys all got quiet. So, anyway,
• 53:25
  that started an an
• 53:27
  investigation by our senate here in Michigan senate.
• 53:30
  Unknown: Uh-huh.
• 53:31
  Unknown: The people handling the election, the chairman was a farmer
• 53:34
  who is from the Upper Peninsula. He's a farmer up there. I'm not saying he's not intelligent,
• 53:39
  but he is a farmer. He's not a police officer.
• 53:41
  An ear, nose, and throat doctor, which was the senator senator from my area.
• 53:46
  And
• 53:47
  I think they had two that were clerks or former clerks,
• 53:51
  and they were all senators now. And that's what we had handling probably the greatest fraud against this country
• 53:57
  ever.
• 53:58
  And I got to my senator about it because he was under the committee. And I said, look. You guys need a task force of law enforcement. Let's get some experts on this.
• 54:06
  Oh, I'm doing what I'm told. I'm... I've been assigned to this committee. And and then later on, I asked him, hey. Do you have the name of the driver of the truck that drove the truck into the TCF centers? I'm trying to point all these things out that
• 54:18
  is normal
• 54:19
  for just a regular
• 54:22
  street beat police officer.
• 54:24
  And,
• 54:25
  of course, his answer was no on all these things.
• 54:28
  And they kept telling you, you need an expert. Well, that never happened. They come out with a report. And in the end of the report, the chairman of that committee says, if anybody investigate this, I want the
• 54:39
  attorney general to look at charging them.
• 54:42
  And I was like, what?
• 54:44
  Mhmm.
• 54:45
  You know? Because I've been investigating this when at the same time they were doing this.
• 54:49
  I had some of that information that I asked him if he had,
• 54:53
  and
• 54:54
  they never asked for it.
• 54:56
  Like, kind of important to know who the truck driver was who drove the ballots in in the middle of the night at 03:00 in the morning.
• 55:03
  Yeah. And
• 55:05
  a lot of people don't know a truck that size has a GPS in it. And by law, they have to keep that GPS for six months.
• 55:11
  Mhmm. So
• 55:13
  it wouldn't wouldn't it be nice to where that truck's been gone or has been at for the last six months?
• 55:17
  Mhmm.
• 55:18
  Yeah. They didn't get the the... There's a building right across in the... It's it's called the TCS Center in Detroit
• 55:24
  where
• 55:26
  I was told it was like a democrat headquarters over there.
• 55:29
  And I said, did you ever get the power...
• 55:34
  What do they call that? Basically, it's a whole power reports on how much power and energy was used that night because
• 55:42
  your electric companies,
• 55:43
  a lot of them can tell whether or not your refrigerator is running, your television is running. Well, how about a computer and a printer?
• 55:50
  Unknown: Mhmm.
• 55:51
  Unknown: So are they printing ballots over there? What... What's going on? So all that needed to be investigated,
• 55:56
  and it it never happened.
• 55:59
  So
• 56:00
  I continue with mine.
• 56:02
  One of the things the attorney general's office did to me as my
• 56:07
  first detective I had, and we were short staffed, so I'm struggling to find somebody to look into this.
• 56:14
  I had a guy who was on late duty
• 56:15
  and I asked him to look into it and
• 56:19
  he really didn't want to because it was as a political hot potato.
• 56:23
  He started,
• 56:25
  and then obviously some other stuff come in. Like, we had a missing woman, and we ended up finding her, deceased.
• 56:31
  But,
• 56:32
  anyways,
• 56:33
  next thing I know, he's getting a subpoena from the attorney general's office to go all the way over to Detroit in some courtroom in Detroit
• 56:39
  We're West Michigan, Detroit to East Michigan. That's a two two and half hour drive.
• 56:43
  Mhmm. With a subpoena, I gotta pay my
• 56:46
  detective I got working on it, his wage and plus the wear and tear on the car and all that stuff.
• 56:53
  Why?
• 56:55
  What what were you looking for?
• 56:57
  Mhmm. So
• 57:00
  I got a new guy coming on in. He had some investigative experience, so I swore swore him in. I said, guess what? You're gonna work on this case here.
• 57:08
  They subpoenaed him too.
• 57:11
  All... We had to drive all the way over to Detroit. Well, this time we got him an attorney.
• 57:15
  The attorney
• 57:16
  did what's called a motion to quash the subpoena.
• 57:20
  Unknown: Mhmm.
• 57:22
  Unknown: And the way the attorney described it to me was he says, yeah. The judge sat there with his head and resting in his palms,
• 57:29
  looked up to the attorney general's attorney and said, what are you getting me into?
• 57:33
  No. Attorney general started to the attorney general started to say something. He said, no. Sheriff can investigate whoever he wants. This most of your quash was granted, and he gabbled him. Well, that attorney general
• 57:44
  sent the... My guy's attorney an email
• 57:48
  telling him that all immunities are off and now he has a target painted on him. Mhmm.
• 57:53
  My detective didn't wanna touch this case.
• 57:56
  Mhmm. Now how's that not obstruction?
• 57:58
  Unknown: Mhmm. Mhmm.
• 58:00
  Unknown: Now both both times you have business getting involved in my investigation.
• 58:04
  Any other attorney general's office that I've ever worked with would have said... Would have called me up and say, hey, Dar, what do got? I would have told him, you need help.
• 58:12
  Oh, no. They tried stopping us from an investigation.
• 58:15
  Mhmm. What I heard was that they were trying to indict me on something.
• 58:19
  Mhmm.
• 58:21
  So,
• 58:22
  luckily, we we follow the rules here. So that that was that was kind of the beginning part of it. There was that
• 58:29
  threat from the attorney general's office trying to stop this investigation.
• 58:32
  But why?
• 58:34
  Mhmm. You know, I keep asking that. The more you want me to stop, the more I'm sitting here going, are you involved?
• 58:41
  Unknown: Mhmm.
• 58:43
  Unknown: So we kept going with the investigation.
• 58:45
  And, of course, I had some death threats and stuff like that. We had letters sent to my home
• 58:51
  threatening me.
• 58:54
  So, yeah, it's been quite a ride with with stuff like that on there. We just... We ignore them and just keep moving forward.
• 59:01
  Unknown: Mhmm. Well, sheriff, you've been sheriff, of course, a long time at that time.
• 59:06
  Yeah.
• 59:07
  But when you had this experience,
• 59:10
  was it a head slapper time, an eye opening time, and was it a time when you said,
• 59:15
  I didn't realize how... I knew there was a deep state. I knew there was darkness out there,
• 59:21
  but I didn't realize how organized
• 59:23
  and vicious they were.
• 59:25
  Did that happen?
• 59:27
  Absolutely.
• 59:30
  Unknown: I
• 59:31
  Uh-huh. I experienced that before. That question. Think we're ready to run break.
• 59:35
  Unknown: Yeah. We'll answer that question in two minutes.
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  Unknown: Boy, that was some fancy music you had there, Paul.
• 1:01:43
  That was They were... They were... Yeah. That that very classic.
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• 1:01:47
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• 1:01:51
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• 1:01:53
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• 1:01:54
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• 1:01:57
  Unknown: It sounded like it was dated a little bit,
• 1:02:00
  but it was very, very nice. Well,
• 1:02:03
  sheriff Darr's here. And, of course, we appreciate his time because
• 1:02:07
  he's on duty twenty four seven for a
• 1:02:11
  year after year.
• 1:02:12
  As sheriff, he's been there over,
• 1:02:14
  let's say, 04/05/2020.
• 1:02:16
  He's into a... Over... Well over 20. He's into a sixth term.
• 1:02:21
  His term, I believe, is four years.
• 1:02:24
  And
• 1:02:25
  we appreciate him coming because he is on duty as he always is, but we're gonna turn it back over to him and use...
• 1:02:32
  Let him use the time to talk. Was there something you wanted to say, Roger or Paul? Let's let's see if he can answer that question that we interrupted him with.
• 1:02:41
  Alright. Now keep going in other words. Right? No?
• 1:02:46
  Unknown: Yeah. That's what Paul... I I just wanted to add something when we get a break. If you wanna continue with where Dara's going, that'd be fine. Uh-huh.
• 1:02:53
  Unknown: Oh, well,
• 1:02:54
  sheriff sheriffiest,
• 1:02:56
  if you're still there, Lord willing, pick it up where you think it's appropriate and tell us things you think are most important, whatever it is.
• 1:03:05
  Unknown: You asked about the deep state. Well Mhmm.
• 1:03:08
  My first...
• 1:03:09
  Probably a couple months in office, I was getting these emails.
• 1:03:13
  Sarah help us. They're ordering children like pizza.
• 1:03:16
  It's called Pizzagate.
• 1:03:18
  And so of course, back then the term urban legend was big. So I kept saying that's an urban legend.
• 1:03:23
  Nobody's doing that stuff.
• 1:03:25
  So that was my first taste of, you know, the deep state and the corruption and the darkness.
• 1:03:29
  Because
• 1:03:30
  then the Epstein thing happened, and I'm going, oh my goodness. I ignored these people.
• 1:03:36
  So I don't know what I could have done had I not ignored them because are doing? You're sending the information to where? Oh, you're sending it to the deep state.
• 1:03:45
  Mhmm. Where do go with information like that?
• 1:03:48
  But, anyways, the... Probably it got a little bit worse with around COVID,
• 1:03:52
  learning what the deep state was.
• 1:03:56
  Then when they had that plot against the governor
• 1:03:58
  over here Mhmm. Mhmm. And I I spoke up about, hey. These guys are innocent until proven guilty, and I I think you remember all that, Brent. Mhmm. And
• 1:04:07
  that... I got more death threats on that one, a lot more.
• 1:04:11
  Threats to arrest me and all this stuff. And
• 1:04:15
  it was funny because I I would...
• 1:04:17
  When I first started getting these threats, I'd fire right back at them. And then when I started
• 1:04:23
  offering to have a little sit down with them and not even offer to buy their lunch,
• 1:04:27
  all of sudden the threat stopped and I'm going, doggone, I wish I would've done that before. So if there's any other sheriffs out there, just learn from my experience on that. That's what I did. I offered to buy them lunch. I... We'll meet anywhere you want. I'll I'll buy your lunch, and we'll have a we'll have an adult conversation.
• 1:04:44
  Mhmm. And all of sudden, it stopped.
• 1:04:47
  Oh, me. We got...
• 1:04:49
  Barry County here got doxxed for two weeks straight after I made those comments about people being innocent until proven guilty.
• 1:04:56
  Unknown: Yeah. I I do recall that. Uh-huh. Go ahead. Where
• 1:05:00
  Unknown: did that all come from?
• 1:05:03
  Unknown: Where did... Which come all of that. Oh, you were asking yourself. Right?
• 1:05:08
  Unknown: Yeah. Uh-huh.
• 1:05:10
  And then
• 1:05:12
  those stopped when I...
• 1:05:14
  They had a special commissioner's meeting and
• 1:05:18
  make... To me, they're making a bigger deal out of what it really was.
• 1:05:23
  The doxing was the biggest pain on the hind end because what I said was accurate.
• 1:05:28
  You know, people are innocent until proven guilty. They just everyday in court, you know?
• 1:05:33
  But,
• 1:05:34
  anyways, I had a news media at that commissioner's meeting put a microphone on my face, and they
• 1:05:39
  Mhmm. Asked me if I was going to resign. And I said, why would I resign if I'm gonna... If I'm right?
• 1:05:44
  Mhmm. You know? And all a sudden, doxing stopped. So I'm sitting there scratching my head. I'm going, was this whole doxing trying to get me to resign?
• 1:05:51
  Mhmm.
• 1:05:53
  So nonetheless,
• 1:05:55
  life moves on.
• 1:05:57
  Mhmm. And we have this election.
• 1:06:00
  Everybody watched what happened on television.
• 1:06:03
  Everybody was in uproar about it. And then all we heard was is
• 1:06:08
  this is the most secure election in the country's history or the state's history, and there's no evidence of voter fraud and all this stuff. Mhmm. And all those were lies. We we know that.
• 1:06:18
  But they keep telling them, and there's a... Still a group of people out there who still believe them.
• 1:06:23
  Unknown: Oh, it's
• 1:06:25
  Yeah.
• 1:06:26
  Unknown: Mhmm. It's amazing, isn't it? Yes. It... It's the power of political correctness. It overwhelms people. They don't have a clue what they're talking. Yeah. And I've... We watched it in COVID too. Well, now You know? Fellow... Go ahead. There's there's another label for that called cultural Marxism.
• 1:06:41
  Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And by the way, I gotta drop a footnote here. I can't resist.
• 1:06:47
  Politically correct speech is the foundation of all evil government in the world.
• 1:06:53
  And it's my con... Study conclusion for what it's worth that that's what has happened at Babylon in this eleventh chapter of Genesis, and I based that
• 1:07:03
  upon the Hebrew words themselves that are used. And if you want to read about my conclusions,
• 1:07:09
  you can get a copy of the,
• 1:07:11
  I call it, the good book uncooked, the common lawyer translates the bible from the original tongues, and the footnotes there
• 1:07:18
  give the conclusions, but that's applicable today. Now, sheriff,
• 1:07:22
  last time I came up there, we met at that little ice cream place and you showed up and you're...
• 1:07:29
  Just like you're a
• 1:07:30
  a local yokel there, addressed, and
• 1:07:33
  we visited. And I had another
• 1:07:35
  man and woman with me at the time, and he was a native Michigander
• 1:07:39
  that had moved down to our neck of the woods. And he... I went back up with him, and we went up to the Upper Peninsula and all those places I heard you talk about.
• 1:07:48
  And
• 1:07:50
  he has a question. He's listening.
• 1:07:52
  He has a question, and I want to read it to you
• 1:07:55
  Unknown: and see if Before you you do that, can I Oh? I tell you what Dwight D. Eisenhower said about political correctness?
• 1:08:01
  Unknown: Sure.
• 1:08:03
  Unknown: Yeah. When he was president, he said... He described political correctness
• 1:08:06
  as the
• 1:08:09
  trying to tell people that it was possible
• 1:08:11
  to pick up a piece of shit from the clean end.
• 1:08:16
  Unknown: That's pretty earthy. You know, people don't... Yeah. That's pretty earthy. You know where Roosevelt grew up on
• 1:08:23
  Kansas frontier,
• 1:08:26
  and he grew up in a pretty earthy environment when it comes right down to it. But, of course, going to West Point, they cleaned him up a little bit, but he still had it in. Well,
• 1:08:35
  this fella, his name is Keith.
• 1:08:38
  He says, hi, sheriff. Are
• 1:08:40
  you in communication or conversation
• 1:08:43
  with a man by the name of Patrick Byrne
• 1:08:47
  about
• 1:08:48
  deep state questions?
• 1:08:50
  I know... He says this. I know he has spoken of you,
• 1:08:54
  of you, Patrick Byrne. Now Patrick Byrne is a well known
• 1:08:59
  media personality,
• 1:09:01
  apparently. I don't know a lot about him, but Keith has talked to me about it. Do you remember a company
• 1:09:06
  Unknown: fifteen, twenty years ago called Overstock?
• 1:09:10
  Mhmm.
• 1:09:11
  That was him.
• 1:09:12
  Alright. He was a multimillionaire,
• 1:09:14
  and he's living at home with his mother and just got through with some sort of a lung operation where they took part of one lung and recovering. And he's lost everything. He's been up involved with the CIA,
• 1:09:27
  all this election stuff all over the world. Mhmm. Quite a guy, Patrick Burns. I just had to add that. Well, that puts some context to it. Sheriff Dyer, do you ever talk... Have you ever talked to Patrick Burns?
• 1:09:40
  Unknown: Yeah. I've talked to him. Yeah.
• 1:09:42
  Oh, are you I have I have indirect contact with him too.
• 1:09:46
  Unknown: Alright. So you're... But you're not involved
• 1:09:50
  communicating with him regularly now? No.
• 1:09:54
  No. I never have been. Oh, I see. Okay. But he's on the same page with you apparently, or he's got his head pointed in the same direction. Is that
• 1:10:03
  Unknown: He's
• 1:10:04
  he's part of Overstock, and Dominion sued him for, like, $1,100,000,000
• 1:10:08
  for his being
• 1:10:10
  public about what was going on with the Dominion machines and stuff like that and the foreign foreign interference.
• 1:10:15
  Oh,
• 1:10:16
  that's... Mhmm.
• 1:10:18
  Where where he likes me very well is that my investigators are the ones who turned up those
• 1:10:23
  emails between Dominion employees and
• 1:10:28
  country leaders who don't like us.
• 1:10:30
  Unknown: And you're out in the middle of nowhere, rural Michigan, and these things are happening because
• 1:10:36
  you
• 1:10:37
  took a small... Well, to the
• 1:10:41
  the rest of the country,
• 1:10:43
  who's ever heard of Barrie County, Michigan? We were looking... People were saying, where's Barrie County, Michigan? Well, but you dug in deep there and discovered things that were common throughout our country.
• 1:10:55
  And the deeper you went, the more you saw there was connection
• 1:10:59
  to
• 1:11:00
  folk that were very powerful
• 1:11:03
  worldwide maybe, but behind the scenes.
• 1:11:06
  Is that true?
• 1:11:09
  Unknown: Yeah, but I gotta kind of draw a line here because most of what I got now is in the
• 1:11:14
  Department of Justice hands and I don't wanna screw up any of their cases.
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  So I gotta be careful what I say about it. Yeah.
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  Where we got started in it is...
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  And there's an attorney out of Detroit. She asked if she could set up a table, and it's right in the heart of COVID right after the election Mhmm. And reach out to the community here and see if they found anything or saw anything that was odd at the polling areas.
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  And
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  we had,
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  I think it was six or eight people come on in, and most of it was they were talking about
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  they were made to use these
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  markers rather than ink pens and stuff like that. And they about were marker bleed through on the ballot, which that's not what we're looking for on the marker stuff. Mhmm.
• 1:12:02
  But then we had one woman who brought in a picture, and what it was is her computer screen.
• 1:12:07
  And I think it was Fox News, I think it was. Mhmm. Anyways, there's a map of Michigan,
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  and you could take your arrow
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  and you could click it on a county,
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  and it'd tell you what the voting results were at that time. Mhmm.
• 1:12:21
  So
• 1:12:22
  think about that. How would they know?
• 1:12:26
  So it's 03:00 in the afternoon, you go click on it, they tell you what the voting... How would how would they know?
• 1:12:31
  Mhmm.
• 1:12:33
  So this happened to be after eleven, and not all the precincts had been in a Barrie County. She put down Barrie County.
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  They had the natural law party candidate
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  that was leading Barry County with... I wanna say, I'm gonna throw these out just by memory.
• 1:12:47
  Mhmm. And
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  I think it was 9,700
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  votes in Donald Trump.
• 1:12:52
  I... Maybe it's 9,800. Donald Trump had 9,700,
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  and Joe Biden had, like, 43
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  or 4,500.
• 1:12:59
  And Mhmm. And, anyway, she thought that was really odd that the natural law party candidate was leading Barry County. So she took a picture of it. Mhmm. Mhmm.
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  That's what changed my life. That's when we had cybersecurity
• 1:13:12
  experts reach out. We're trying to put a case together.
• 1:13:16
  I had no idea how to handle something like this. They don't teach us this in the academy.
• 1:13:21
  Yeah. And anyhow,
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  the next morning when all the results were in, that same candidate went from 97
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  or 9,800
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  down to 12.
• 1:13:32
  Oh. What happened?
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  That's where the cyber guys got all excited. That's where
• 1:13:38
  we started looking into things, and then you start thinking about that spike in the middle of the night and the computers being shut down for two hours and and so on.
• 1:13:47
  Mhmm. So
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  that's what got us started in it all. Well, if I were
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  Unknown: DJ Trump,
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  I would say to myself... I hadn't thinking I would say to myself,
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  I'm gonna get these guys.
• 1:14:06
  There's election fraud. They called me a liar.
• 1:14:09
  Now somebody said here there's no evidence that
• 1:14:14
  they're an
• 1:14:15
  attempt on Trump's life or...
• 1:14:18
  Okay. Well, maybe he knows more than I do, but I know that
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  no matter whether there was or wasn't
• 1:14:24
  for attempted assassinations,
• 1:14:27
  if
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  I were DJ Trump and I believe there was election fraud
• 1:14:32
  and I thought it was important, I'd wanna do something about it before I got out of office.
• 1:14:37
  Now it sounds to me like that
• 1:14:41
  the justice department is looking into these things.
• 1:14:45
  Now I just heard the other day,
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  vice president of The United States, JD Vance,
• 1:14:52
  announced
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  that they were looking into
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  800 and some thousand
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  instances of
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  fraud and folk apply... Applying for
• 1:15:03
  loans to pay employees
• 1:15:06
  and then use the money for something else. And and also, they're they're prosecuting some of those, and I've heard of a
• 1:15:14
  high ranking... A mayor of some big town down in Florida,
• 1:15:19
  some gal took a $50,000
• 1:15:22
  loan that was forgiven, and now she's facing thirty years.
• 1:15:26
  I heard that.
• 1:15:28
  So I have to assume, although I'm not sure, that
• 1:15:32
  the Justice Department under the president of The United States is pursuing this election fraud
• 1:15:38
  problem that we faced with these machines. Let me ask you a question, sheriff.
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  Point blank.
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  Your conclusion,
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  for what it's worth,
• 1:15:47
  should we get rid of election machines and have paper ballots? Absolutely.
• 1:15:52
  Unknown: Who said that? Oh, that was I think everybody else answered that before me. Yeah. Well,
• 1:15:56
  Unknown: I wanted to hear you say it. Now, Roger, you said it, but, sheriff, did you... I didn't hear if you said anything.
• 1:16:02
  Unknown: Yeah. I would like to see the the computerized system gone because it's run with software. Software can be programmed. You know, we could have a perfect election today, but ten years from now, we're still using the same system. I know somebody's not gonna sneak something in there. And my understanding when talking to these cyber guys, this could happen faster than a blink of eye... Blink of an eye. Mhmm. And, you know, we go through these...
• 1:16:26
  Oh, what do they call them? The public accuracy tests. Mhmm. Well, it's run by software.
• 1:16:32
  And I tell everybody that'll... That you're gonna pass that accuracy test every time. I wanna know what happens at 05:15PM.
• 1:16:41
  You know? What's going on with that software? You can... You can program it to whatever you want. Sure. They're using software now for jury pools. Well, it's supposed to be a random pick.
• 1:16:51
  Mhmm. Tell me where a computer can be random.
• 1:16:53
  So No. We're getting software to death, basically, is what we're doing.
• 1:16:57
  And who's who's writing the software?
• 1:17:00
  What are these... They call them NGOs, which is nongovernment organizations. Mhmm. Who are they? Who do they hire? Mhmm.
• 1:17:07
  Are they foreigners?
• 1:17:08
  Did they do background checks?
• 1:17:10
  Just Mhmm. Like, even with FOIA,
• 1:17:13
  we've had people try and FOIA this company called ERIC, which is electronic registration information center. Uh-huh. And they're the ones who were supposed to be tracking voters.
• 1:17:22
  Like, if you lived in this precinct and then you move to another precinct, ERIC is supposed to be tracking that and keeping that
• 1:17:29
  information up to date. Well, first of all, who wrote the software for Eric? Did they sell it? Who'd they sell it to?
• 1:17:38
  Who works for them? Did they do a background investigation? And now they're saying they're they're FOIA exempt because they put in their contract that they can't be FOIA ed. I'm a whole time out. You can't get around law
• 1:17:49
  Mhmm. With a contract.
• 1:17:51
  Mhmm. So this is kind of stuff that we're facing.
• 1:17:53
  Unknown: Oh, a good point, sheriff. Well, sheriff, back when I was Excellent. A young a young buck coming up,
• 1:18:00
  They used to have a great big cage, and they had a bunch of stuff in it with numbers on it. And some guy on the end rolling around with a big handle, and then somebody from the federal government reach in and say, okay. This is... This date, out of three hundred and sixty five days of the year, this date is draft number one. You're born on this date, you're gonna get drafted. I went through that. Yeah. So we remember that. But but the method now
• 1:18:26
  is,
• 1:18:27
  software.
• 1:18:29
  And software, computers only work
• 1:18:32
  if somebody
• 1:18:33
  programs them.
• 1:18:35
  That is not true when you're rolling that thing around. That's the grand difference. Am I right, Sheriff? Is that your discovery?
• 1:18:41
  Unknown: Yeah. It used to be, like, names literally in a hat, and you drew out Yeah. Your names out of a hat. Yeah. Same principle. I see. Uh-huh. But what is the software capable of that they're doing? Where do they get their where do they get their names
• 1:18:54
  for the software? Do they get it from the voter rolls? Well Yeah.
• 1:18:58
  The democrat and republicans both have who votes how. How do they know how you vote, whether you vote democrat or republican?
• 1:19:05
  Yeah. And,
• 1:19:06
  you know, so are we gonna have these jury pools where,
• 1:19:11
  if you're, let's say, you're a strong conservative,
• 1:19:13
  and, how do you know we're not gonna get a jury pool of all very liberal people who wanna fry you?
• 1:19:19
  Mhmm. Yeah. So And that Yeah. That's why that's why drawing out of the hat seems to be a little bit better to me. Oh. Oh, wow. Really rough. When,
• 1:19:27
  Unknown: Bill Gates and the guy that's died, I can't remember his program... The guy that did all the programming.
• 1:19:33
  When they met and they were in high school,
• 1:19:35
  they would program it so in their classes, it was all the girls.
• 1:19:41
  The computer feed all the girls to their classes.
• 1:19:45
  Mhmm. So just an example of what you're talking about.
• 1:19:48
  Unknown: But all girls are all pretty girls.
• 1:19:51
  Unknown: It was all girls, but I don't I don't know why. So it's so it's not possible
• 1:19:57
  Unknown: to use a computer
• 1:19:59
  to be random because it... Now I'm asking for your view on this. It's not possible to use a computer to be truly random
• 1:20:07
  and to exercise chance
• 1:20:10
  because the computer has to have a programmer to work. Yep.
• 1:20:15
  Unknown: Yeah. That's my understanding. I'm not a computer guy. Just wanna be upfront. That's my understanding from talking to somebody at cyber guys.
• 1:20:22
  Unknown: That's why I'm know what to do if something didn't tell them to do something. Mhmm.
• 1:20:27
  Unknown: And just to make a point, and this is a biblical point if I may drop another footnote.
• 1:20:34
  When it comes to elect... Let's say jury pools. There was a 12 man jury that Jesus Christ impaneled to witness the evidence of his identity,
• 1:20:42
  And they were with him three years observing the evidence.
• 1:20:45
  Had to do with a lot of unusual things.
• 1:20:48
  Well, at the end of that time, there was one of those fellows
• 1:20:51
  that turn coded. And
• 1:20:53
  after he turn coded and sold Jesus Christ by the providence of God, by the way. It had to happen. He predicted God said it would happen, it did happen, and that betrayed him to murder, and he came for that reason, I understand that. But
• 1:21:07
  that fellow went out and tried to hang himself and failed. The rope broke, that was Judas,
• 1:21:13
  and he was on the edge of a cliff and he fell down, his guts busted out. That's what it says.
• 1:21:18
  That's the evidence of what happened. But
• 1:21:21
  in Acts chapter one, they needed to replace
• 1:21:25
  that juror just like we do today.
• 1:21:28
  And we have two alternate jurors today always that watch the whole trial in case somebody gets sick during the proceedings or dies or something. And then he can step right into his shoes. So what they did was they said, well,
• 1:21:41
  we we have
• 1:21:43
  men here that were there the whole time just like the 12.
• 1:21:47
  And we have two here that are fully qualified.
• 1:21:50
  So let's draw straws and see which one
• 1:21:53
  God wants.
• 1:21:55
  And that's the way they chose Matthias.
• 1:21:58
  And they drew straws or threw the dice, cast the lots as the old language says. That's true chance. God says
• 1:22:05
  the casting of the lot and the whole disposing thereof is under my control. He says that in the Old Testament.
• 1:22:12
  He's sovereign over everything.
• 1:22:14
  And so this idea
• 1:22:16
  of randomness
• 1:22:17
  for juries,
• 1:22:18
  randomness for grand juries, randomness
• 1:22:21
  is important.
• 1:22:23
  But computers, the way I understand it, and sheriff Dyer says that's the way he understands it, do not have that capability.
• 1:22:30
  Well,
• 1:22:31
  a sheriff.
• 1:22:32
  So
• 1:22:33
  is there anybody
• 1:22:35
  still
• 1:22:36
  in danger over your investigation?
• 1:22:39
  Any
• 1:22:40
  part of your investigatory
• 1:22:41
  team still in danger, still being hassled,
• 1:22:44
  including yourself, of course, over this investigation
• 1:22:47
  that you did?
• 1:22:52
  Unknown: I don't know about my investigation, but
• 1:22:57
  a lot of that stuff has
• 1:23:00
  slowed down or died off.
• 1:23:02
  Mhmm. One of the odd things that happened is that I got an attorney, and there's another
• 1:23:08
  clerk out of Hillsdale County. Uh-huh. And a circuit court judge threw out all his charges that the attorney general's office put on him. Mhmm.
• 1:23:16
  And
• 1:23:18
  few months later, that circuit court judge died of a rare stomach cancer.
• 1:23:24
  Mhmm. So
• 1:23:25
  in the meantime, the attorney general's office have have an appeal in the court of appeals.
• 1:23:30
  Mhmm. And she died of
• 1:23:32
  this this weird oddball of stomach cancer.
• 1:23:35
  And I don't know all the details on it. It just really stunk to me. It was like, wow. Our governor is the one who appoints the next judge there.
• 1:23:43
  Mhmm.
• 1:23:44
  So
• 1:23:46
  your conspiracy theory guy, this is right up your alley. It it just... It was like, this is really, really odd
• 1:23:53
  that this judge who just dismissed all these charges from the state
• 1:23:56
  Mhmm.
• 1:23:58
  And often she just dies of some oddball cancer and is in a rest of cancer, and it took her pretty rapidly.
• 1:24:04
  Unknown: Yeah. It seems as odd. You mentioned that case a while ago, the Prince case, which came down and said that the federal agents and the federal government have no authority to commandeer sheriffs and anybody else in the state government.
• 1:24:17
  But the federal judge that ruled and ruled right in that case was
• 1:24:23
  shot dead.
• 1:24:25
  Unknown: That is correct. One out in Arizona.
• 1:24:27
  Unknown: Yeah. And nobody heard about that. They only heard about the the congresswoman
• 1:24:33
  that was shot at the same time. Right. She became a hero,
• 1:24:37
  but the judge has just forgotten.
• 1:24:38
  Yeah. Yeah. I just... It stinks. I'm not... I don't know any more than that, but it didn't look right.
• 1:24:44
  Yeah.
• 1:24:45
  That was the Gifford,
• 1:24:47
  shooting.
• 1:24:47
  Well That's correct. So so it's dangerous out there, sheriff.
• 1:24:52
  I think we're in agreement about that. Real dangerous. Okay.
• 1:24:56
  Unknown: So, sheriff Can I ask Go ahead, Roger? Go ahead. Go couple of months ago got up and did that middle of the week talk
• 1:25:04
  that some of the establishment
• 1:25:06
  didn't cover it all. Some covered up to the point,
• 1:25:10
  when he got into the war or something and they dropped out. Do y'all remember that?
• 1:25:15
  No. You don't? Sure, Roger. We keep talking. Well, it's fairly recent. I mean, it's a couple months back, 02/03.
• 1:25:21
  Well, the... What he was wailing on that they did cover
• 1:25:25
  was,
• 1:25:26
  I believe, or this... It was the Chinese
• 1:25:31
  interaction in the last election that they've been uncovered with,
• 1:25:35
  the guy from Minnesota
• 1:25:37
  and and all the others that are doing that kind of research.
• 1:25:40
  And I just wondered at that time because he had put out an executive order
• 1:25:45
  about paper ballots, hadn't he?
• 1:25:48
  Mhmm. He was talking publicly about it, I think. Is
• 1:25:52
  this a reason?
• 1:25:54
  Like, for instance,
• 1:25:55
  evidently,
• 1:25:56
  Israel was about to attack Iran.
• 1:25:59
  And Trump has called them back,
• 1:26:02
  with these elections, the Israeli one being Tuesday
• 1:26:05
  and The US one being a week later, two weeks later, what... No. Yeah. A week later. It's
• 1:26:11
  a really perilous time right now.
• 1:26:14
  Why did you get up and give that public speech in the middle of the week? It's just uncharacteristic.
• 1:26:20
  That's all. It was just so close, and the closer we get, it appears,
• 1:26:26
  the more important it becomes.
• 1:26:29
  Unknown: Yes. Now I I... Thank you, Roger, and I'm gonna look into that, of course, more.
• 1:26:34
  Sheriff, though,
• 1:26:38
  I wanna ask a question to you now.
• 1:26:41
  Given all that your experiences,
• 1:26:43
  and,
• 1:26:44
  I know that you would say and have said, you said it here, you don't know everything, and you're always looking for people that to hang around that know more than you kind of thing. And I am too, by the way. That's why I try to hang around with you some.
• 1:26:56
  But
• 1:26:58
  all your... The calculus of your experience,
• 1:27:01
  what should folk,
• 1:27:04
  we're just normal folk. I mean, normal in that word. We don't have a lot of influence, and I know you have little in your own county. You're normal folk.
• 1:27:11
  What should
• 1:27:13
  we do? What is your conclusion of what we should individually,
• 1:27:17
  as Americans who want our country back, what should we do?
• 1:27:22
  Unknown: First of all,
• 1:27:23
  they call it the right to vote, what what we all discuss about right. It's to evoke right and duty.
• 1:27:29
  Yeah. Then you get get out and still vote. People, oh, I'm not voting. It's corrupt.
• 1:27:34
  Well, it's easily...
• 1:27:35
  To corrupt when you're not there.
• 1:27:37
  So
• 1:27:38
  if if you're... If you believe in that that part of the
• 1:27:42
  voter fraud.
• 1:27:43
  So
• 1:27:44
  I don't care if you gotta drag your neighbor kicking and screaming or buy their hair or whatever. Get them on out there and get them out voting.
• 1:27:50
  And
• 1:27:51
  you kinda
• 1:27:53
  give them overwhelming numbers.
• 1:27:55
  Mhmm. So You know, that... That'd be my my number one response is that right there. Just get out and vote. If
• 1:28:02
  you don't get out and vote, what... What's that old saying? You can vote yourself into socialism, but you have to shoot your way out of it. Alright. Yeah. That's true. That's not funny.
• 1:28:11
  Unknown: All politics is local as the old saying goes, and those are things you can control.
• 1:28:17
  I understand where people get frustrated with the process and they don't care about president, vice president, and hanging chads and any other crap that go... But that county commissioner and the school board
• 1:28:30
  people and the other thing is there's all kinds of tons of offices
• 1:28:34
  that nobody runs so the Democrats step in there. I'm saying probably more nationwide than your county, Dar. Mhmm. But step in there, and so they end up controlling. And people have rightly said go in and find those offices and and start getting involved, especially at a local level,
• 1:28:51
  and voting applies
• 1:28:53
  to that to me.
• 1:28:55
  Unknown: Mhmm. We have our
• 1:28:58
  secretary of state who runs the elections. Now she's running for governor,
• 1:29:02
  and
• 1:29:03
  she had people removed from the ballots for the same stuff that she had on her record on her past elections.
• 1:29:10
  Mhmm. And so I sent a I sent a letter on out asking, hey. I wanna see this. Why
• 1:29:17
  why is this being kept quiet?
• 1:29:19
  And here again, most of our counties,
• 1:29:22
  about 90 to 95% of our counties here in Michigan
• 1:29:25
  are republican.
• 1:29:28
  Mhmm. If every one of those clerks stood up and said, we're not allowing your name on the ballot, so you can show us that you should be on there, why don't they do that?
• 1:29:35
  Mhmm.
• 1:29:36
  You know, that's that's that nullification and then interposing saying, you know, we're nullifying your name, and we're gonna interpose that we're not gonna act... Just hand these ballots out with your name on it. So
• 1:29:47
  that's that's some of the stuff that that is...
• 1:29:50
  Like I said, people don't understand their authority or their power that they actually have.
• 1:29:55
  Because where do I get my power from? Well, directly from the people. Sure.
• 1:29:59
  I always hated that. Well, power to the people. No. Power from the people. Excuse me. You got it you got it wrong.
• 1:30:04
  Unknown: It's true. Yeah. I get it. I get it, sheriff. So Yeah. Yeah. We made a big deal about that. The delegation of... Or we have been in our class of the delegation of power, and I stress again.
• 1:30:17
  I mean, if you wanna know more about the sheriff, and we believe it to be fundamental, by the way,
• 1:30:22
  go to website
• 1:30:24
  commonlawyer.com,
• 1:30:26
  and the two courses with sheriff Dara and I taught
• 1:30:30
  on the sheriff are there of audio and visual, and you can listen to those in appreciation of a donation. We gotta keep going. And sheriff Darden getting money. He's in public office.
• 1:30:41
  He doesn't get any money donated to him,
• 1:30:43
  but he apparently think... He's not getting paid to do it when he teaches this class, but he apparently thinks it's important or he wouldn't participate.
• 1:30:52
  Sheriff, one time, you know, when we start the classes, I'll come on when I start, and I start by acknowledging
• 1:30:59
  the god that made us.
• 1:31:01
  And we do that by... I do it by swapping my wishes
• 1:31:05
  for his will. My wishes
• 1:31:08
  for the will of the sovereign, which is law.
• 1:31:11
  That's how I start, and people call that, that's the word translated prayer. In the New Testament, the Greek word means to swap.
• 1:31:19
  By the letters, what it means, swap your wishes
• 1:31:22
  for God's will. Well, I do that, and I've been doing that. And no big deal. I just start and have a little short.
• 1:31:36
  Unknown: Oh, there?
• 1:31:38
  Unknown: Where'd he go?
• 1:31:40
  Brent? Yeah. We had a short something in this bill. We lost lost you. See if he's still in the room. He's still in the room.
• 1:31:50
  Unknown: Yeah. Looks like he's frozen kind of.
• 1:31:54
  Unknown: So he accidentally hit a mute button mute button? I don't know. It's pretty unusual. This doesn't ever happen.
• 1:32:00
  Brent, are you there? Brent? Brent, are you there? Well,
• 1:32:08
  Unknown: let me try muting him and then unmuting him. Yeah. Well Brent, are you there?
• 1:32:15
  Unknown: Is that
• 1:32:17
  Unknown: October? We cannot we cannot hear what you're saying. Try disconnecting and reconnect.
• 1:32:24
  We'll turn it back over to sheriff Dhar. Oh.
• 1:32:27
  Yeah. He's still in here and he just came in a second time.
• 1:32:31
  Unknown: So. Paul. Here he comes. Paul's, are you is he coming back? Brent,
• 1:32:36
  Unknown: are you there now?
• 1:32:40
  Unknown: Boy, that's an abrupt
• 1:32:42
  thing, Paul. I don't remember that happening before.
• 1:32:49
  Unknown: Yeah. He just disconnected again.
• 1:32:51
  Well
• 1:32:52
  Unknown: He'll figure it out in a second reconnect,
• 1:32:54
  I'm sure. You
• 1:32:56
  may think, but I... While we're sitting here with no dead air, he he was asking people with...
• 1:33:02
  Put a question in the chat. I
• 1:33:05
  can't help but think of our regular people like Larry that he probably
• 1:33:10
  has a question, and he's out driving and delivering goods and stuff. And so does anybody have a question for sheriff Darn while we got this law?
• 1:33:19
  Unknown: Oh, can I finish a statement before they do? Yes. Of course. Go for it. I was I was talking about this... Bit about the inner position and null... Nullification of inner position.
• 1:33:29
  Well,
• 1:33:30
  the... At at the minimum, because I was asking for an information
• 1:33:34
  on whether or not the... What the information is given to me was true and accurate. I never got a response back.
• 1:33:41
  However, if every clerk, if every sheriff on the state would have stood up and said, yeah. Hey.
• 1:33:47
  You gotta abide by the rules too. I want... We wanna see this.
• 1:33:51
  And they act like they're powerless,
• 1:33:53
  and they're not. Yes. The power comes from the people. Mhmm. Where's where's the mouthpiece? We're supposed to be speaking up and asking these questions. And that's my... One of my beef with all these electeds at the local level.
• 1:34:06
  They don't think they're important enough. Right.
• 1:34:09
  Unknown: Well, our general consensus here is people have no idea they got the power to control this whole thing because you
• 1:34:17
  have to... What... Your position has to be voluntary.
• 1:34:21
  Under which set of laws am I gonna live under? I'm gonna live under sheriff law, sheriff Dar here. Am I gonna go over this other corrupt county?
• 1:34:29
  But if it's not voluntary,
• 1:34:32
  see, it's tyranny.
• 1:34:34
  Unknown: God... That'll be either. It'll ultimately be governed by God or by tyrant's sake. Exactly. What do you all Comes down to always that choice right there. And so what we've
• 1:34:45
  Unknown: by trying to impart on people, most of us have been conditioned out of thinking that way. You know, sheriff's departments and their SWAT teams, and here they come, and they break my door down. They gotta have all this power. Right? Well, no. Not right. And you get back to the basics of this which political status are you. That's your choice. It's gotta be
• 1:35:07
  an... Or else they're open tyrants. And the other side of that is when when you assert that they can't refuse.
• 1:35:15
  Unknown: Yeah. I get officers every now and then who'll complain because they got turned down on the search warrant.
• 1:35:20
  Unknown: And I was sitting a whole time out. Search warrants are supposed to be tough to get. Yes. It's not supposed to be easy. They're supposed to be tough. Probable cause, etcetera. Those are all constitutional mandates of the way process ought to be. And a bunch of our problem is we've deviated too far away from that. It's gotten too lax. The... What
• 1:35:42
  was the guy that wrote the, I think of his name, the rise and fall of the Roman Empire.
• 1:35:47
  And one of the statements in that book was the first engine of tyranny is a corrupt judiciary,
• 1:35:54
  and, boy, have we got it. Okay?
• 1:35:57
  Edward Gibbons. Edward Gibbons.
• 1:36:00
  So,
• 1:36:02
  anyway, that... The thing is to recognize. Of course, you gotta, know there's a problem first. Go in and try and analyze it where you break it down into some sort of, in my mind, a schematic.
• 1:36:13
  And when you get something in a schematic form, you can find the weak points. And when you find a weak point, you attack it.
• 1:36:21
  So, Brent, was that you back?
• 1:36:24
  Okay. I guess not. Anyway, that's the approach we've taken around here. The advantage I had,
• 1:36:31
  Darr, was,
• 1:36:33
  that I stumbled across these two guys back in 1992.
• 1:36:38
  I'd always, since I was a kid, you know, young man in Vietnam and all that, and and known there was something wrong. I'd been looking for an answer for years, stumbled into the tax movement.
• 1:36:50
  And within just a little first bit of being involved in that in the summer of ninety two.
• 1:36:56
  I was fortunate enough to catch these two guys
• 1:37:00
  that,
• 1:37:01
  were going around the country. One of them had studied the law his whole life, but not in law school.
• 1:37:06
  And he had studied the old law that they have obfuscated in many respects now.
• 1:37:12
  And so he... Then he became particularly interested in tax law, and they found a way in the regulations
• 1:37:19
  where if you change your political status,
• 1:37:22
  you can go back and apply for up to three years you've paid in
• 1:37:27
  back.
• 1:37:28
  And so they built that into a small business, and they were going around the country. They only let them go for six months. Okay?
• 1:37:36
  This is how important this is, and we even realized at the time, they only let them go teaching for six months before
• 1:37:43
  they... All three of their offices were raided, and they had glocks at their heads on the floor and all that fun stuff. Right?
• 1:37:51
  And so anyway, of course, the feds wanna get this off the street. Well, they had put this together and they'd made a business out of it, and you'll you'll like this. They had sent a letter and all the materials
• 1:38:02
  to the Philadelphia Service Center of the IRS. They handle all nonresident alien returns.
• 1:38:10
  And,
• 1:38:11
  so they sent them all this material, and the IRS wrote them back and said, we're gonna be going around the country teaching this. And if any of your agents wanna attend, if they'll show us their credentials, we'll let... Not only let them in, we'll give them free class materials.
• 1:38:26
  And the IRS wrote back. So thank you very much.
• 1:38:29
  And pretty soon, the IRS,
• 1:38:31
  he said, we'll turn this over to the education department. Well, they must have because boy, did they get an education
• 1:38:38
  from a couple of months later and it was the raid and all this. Well, they they only were teaching for a few months and there's only a few of us, 1,200 of us that went through and paid to the course and everybody else quit because they were there because they had a tax problem.
• 1:38:56
  Well, I didn't have a tax problem. I just had a big curiosity.
• 1:39:00
  And so after the raid, everybody went away. I just kept pecking away at it. I never let go. And finally, I think, and so did these people listening to us. We found the big answer here, and it's just one big scam. It's just like you're dealing with the election. It's all just one big scam.
• 1:39:18
  They they they got this whole thing rigged. They inverted everything like Alice in Wonderland,
• 1:39:25
  and then they've done all this stuff over a period of time so they can ask you these questions.
• 1:39:31
  Are you a citizen of The United States? Are you a resident?
• 1:39:35
  You...
• 1:39:36
  I've... Everybody on here, we've all done the same thing. We answered yes,
• 1:39:40
  and then we signed something.
• 1:39:42
  So
• 1:39:44
  how better voluntary servitude
• 1:39:46
  when if they ask you right in front of you and then you sign it, then isn't that what you are?
• 1:39:54
  Unknown: Well, it's a penalty if you say you're not.
• 1:39:57
  There's gotta be a penalty to it. I mean, you you know, you're No.
• 1:40:01
  Unknown: Because there's fraud, what they've done. Remember Jim Crow?
• 1:40:04
  The whitey in Jim Crow was the old state citizen under god's laws with constitutional protections,
• 1:40:11
  and they've hidden that status
• 1:40:13
  and changed the label to a national.
• 1:40:16
  And that's why they can ask you that question and not say, but the fraud is, I don't ask you, are you a citizen of The United States or
• 1:40:25
  a national?
• 1:40:27
  And it's a fraud
• 1:40:28
  because of lack
• 1:40:30
  of exposure.
• 1:40:33
  And from there, there's there's layer upon layer
• 1:40:36
  under that. But while we're waiting for Brent, I'm sorry. I got off on that. And just because it's a... It's just something people don't have any comprehension of. This is all voluntary,
• 1:40:47
  and we've all lived a life of a scam of a voluntary serve.
• 1:40:52
  And we did it. Did it. Yes. It was written back. What
• 1:40:56
  Unknown: they did what they did was they asked you two questions. Are you a citizen? Are you a resident?
• 1:41:01
  And throughout your life
• 1:41:04
  you have been indoctrinated
• 1:41:06
  against
• 1:41:07
  even considering the remote possibility of being a man without a country or being homeless or having nowhere to live. So
• 1:41:17
  the innocuous question is, well yeah I'm a citizen, I was born here,
• 1:41:23
  but that's not what they mean.
• 1:41:25
  And yeah I'm a resident,
• 1:41:27
  my house is right over there just down the street,
• 1:41:30
  but that's not the resident they mean. They mean the legal definition of citizen as
• 1:41:36
  a resident of Washington DC under the jurisdiction of the Congress.
• 1:41:42
  Unknown: And the fourteenth amendment.
• 1:41:44
  Unknown: And the fourteenth amendment. Now
• 1:41:47
  by presumption,
• 1:41:49
  when you answer those questions,
• 1:41:51
  they proceed as though you're a slave
• 1:41:55
  and nobody told you different until one showed up.
• 1:41:59
  Unknown: There's a presumption from birth,
• 1:42:02
  and it comes from the fourteenth amendment, all persons born.
• 1:42:07
  And when they put the country into bankruptcy in '33,
• 1:42:10
  remember hearing about how Roosevelt took the gold?
• 1:42:16
  Sheriff?
• 1:42:18
  Unknown: Yeah. I didn't know when Roosevelt, but, yeah, go ahead. 3033,
• 1:42:22
  Unknown: March 9, bank holiday at thirty three. You can look up it in blacks. But the reason they changed and this happened is because they switched the system on that day.
• 1:42:31
  And if you go to blacks, it says the treasury was
• 1:42:35
  treasury was closed for about five days,
• 1:42:38
  and it reopened
• 1:42:39
  under regulations
• 1:42:41
  from the secretary of the treasury.
• 1:42:43
  Well, there was no secretary of the treasury before that, and there weren't regulations.
• 1:42:49
  Okay? And so what they did... Here's a better representation
• 1:42:52
  of it perhaps.
• 1:42:53
  Free people
• 1:42:55
  that don't have a property right on them use real money, gold, and silver to buy and actually purchase things that they then own.
• 1:43:04
  And they can do that because no one has a property right on them.
• 1:43:09
  When they flipped in this bankruptcy in '33 and they brought in the new system, it's based on a bankruptcy that happened in the bond market.
• 1:43:17
  And so they've got the fourteenth amendment sitting there with this position,
• 1:43:22
  and they went
• 1:43:23
  in essence, went, well, we've got this debt. Let's take these people. We can put a property right on them because of the status,
• 1:43:30
  and we can put them in a sureties of the debt.
• 1:43:34
  And ever since that day when the treasury reopened,
• 1:43:38
  it reopened with paper money that you didn't know your future labor is the collateral
• 1:43:45
  for,
• 1:43:46
  and you can't go and buy things and own them.
• 1:43:49
  You can go and purchase them and discharge the debt
• 1:43:53
  and and own them and not own them, but you can, have possession of them, but you don't own them. And so that's basically the day they changed the system, and ever since,
• 1:44:04
  because underneath that sheriff
• 1:44:06
  is under that born category
• 1:44:09
  is, there's two ways of passing your hiratman.
• 1:44:12
  One is through the lineage of your parents. That's called sanguineous or by blood.
• 1:44:19
  The other is if you're born on the land and you take the citizenship
• 1:44:24
  of the land you're born on, that's called the law of of the land born,
• 1:44:28
  and that's what the feudal system was.
• 1:44:31
  So when they've got a property right on you and you and your wife have a baby,
• 1:44:37
  the child is born into the same condition
• 1:44:40
  just like if you had the bull and the calf in the back pasture and they had a calf, bull and the cow.
• 1:44:46
  And so you're in a silent contract
• 1:44:49
  that is the feudal system that runs generationally,
• 1:44:53
  but it has to be voluntary.
• 1:44:56
  And so you can volunteer out
• 1:44:58
  whenever you want to, and you're you're not expatriating
• 1:45:03
  here,
• 1:45:04
  changing our passport for another countries.
• 1:45:06
  You're repatriating
• 1:45:08
  back to Whitey and Jim Crow.
• 1:45:11
  And they recognize it, have for fifteen or more years,
• 1:45:15
  and and they have to accept it. And we've, you know, people have a hard time believing that's what's going on, but it's all an illusion based
• 1:45:24
  built up with all this stuff. It's pretty complex.
• 1:45:28
  And then them asking you, are you this?
• 1:45:31
  Are you a serf in voluntary
• 1:45:34
  servitude
• 1:45:35
  under the scope and purview of the fourteenth amendment? That's the question they're asking you. And everybody says yes because they think there's only one status.
• 1:45:44
  And all we're doing is saying, stop, Harlan. There's two, and you've got a choice. Brent, you're back. I'm... Because I was feeling it now. You're gone.
• 1:45:53
  Unknown: I'm... And I... I'm on that same note. That brings up... And I started talking about
• 1:45:59
  prayer in, public platform, but I I wanna ask sheriff Darr if
• 1:46:04
  he would to comment
• 1:46:07
  about his experience, if any,
• 1:46:09
  with the sovereign citizen movement. Oh, yeah.
• 1:46:14
  Is that something you can talk about, sheriff? Have you had that happen in your county? Michigan's been a hotbed for that kind of stuff. Yeah. Of course I have. I'm the I'm the sheriff of a county, of course.
• 1:46:25
  Yeah. Is there anything you can tell us about it? Any advice you can give us about it? In other words, should we stay away from that kind of terminology? There's there's a question.
• 1:46:36
  Unknown: Oh, I always question about the... To being sovereign and all that stuff because I think that was a label that the federal government put on these guys. Mhmm. K. To to label them.
• 1:46:46
  Unknown: Came from the Southern Poverty Law Center.
• 1:46:49
  Unknown: Oh, that's even better. Yeah.
• 1:46:52
  That... That's where our
• 1:46:54
  secretary of state running for governors, he was on their board Mhmm. For a few years there. So
• 1:47:01
  But, anyway, I can't resist.
• 1:47:04
  Unknown: Is she... Isn't
• 1:47:05
  she a vegetarian?
• 1:47:09
  Unknown: A what?
• 1:47:11
  Never mind.
• 1:47:13
  Oh, okay.
• 1:47:15
  Alright.
• 1:47:18
  Unknown: I'm sorry that's happening to you up there. You get rid of one, and and here comes another was worse.
• 1:47:24
  Unknown: Not a wonder named Nesser Nesser or something like that.
• 1:47:29
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 1:47:30
  Is it is it possible that I ask
• 1:47:33
  sheriff Dodd a question real quick about the trafficking bug? Yeah. How's it going, Roger? The new traffic laws that are coming online that some states have adopted,
• 1:47:42
  or I don't know if... Is chef Darz heard of them, or is Michigan one of them?
• 1:47:48
  Unknown: I I didn't catch all that. Go ahead.
• 1:47:50
  Unknown: Traffic laws. The new the new traffic laws that are coming on...
• 1:47:54
  Unknown: Some states are adopting that are coming on board. Give us an example. New traffic laws is staged. Some states are adopting. That's what he's saying. Sam, can you give us an example?
• 1:48:04
  Unknown: Well, they're actually measuring the the treads of tires to see how worn they are. They have a little gauge
• 1:48:11
  that they are using to measure the tread on tires. They're they're... Is following
• 1:48:17
  following too closely.
• 1:48:20
  I'm getting a lot of a lot of north in the background. Yeah. Somebody sounds like they're in a pool hall.
• 1:48:25
  Unknown: That's me. I'm I'm in the wrong place. Apologies. Go ahead. Okay. No problem. And
• 1:48:31
  Unknown: Go ahead, Sam. I
• 1:48:33
  Unknown: wanna know if you are aware of anything like that, and has, Michigan adopted it?
• 1:48:40
  Unknown: I like following too closely. Michigan's had that for years.
• 1:48:44
  Unknown: No. But this one where... It's they actually... They're getting nitpicking. You might wanna...
• 1:48:49
  I'm surprised you haven't heard of it, but some states have adopted it and some states... They actually have given the the law enforcement gauges and stuff like that to measure the the depth of the shreds on tires, and you can be cited for that.
• 1:49:04
  There there there are quite a few... It's it's really kinda draconian some of the new stuff that that that are coming out with some states have adopted. But not all states. I think about I think about half of them have have adopted them.
• 1:49:17
  Unknown: Not not that I know of here in Michigan.
• 1:49:19
  But usually in Michigan, if you don't have enough tread, the winner will figure that out for you. That's right.
• 1:49:28
  Unknown: You're the best you're
• 1:49:29
  the best chef in the world, chef, Dora.
• 1:49:32
  Unknown: Oh, thanks.
• 1:49:33
  Unknown: I'd vote for you, mister president.
• 1:49:36
  Unknown: The sheriff Dara... Sheriff, is it is it reasonable
• 1:49:41
  to conclude considering how overwhelmingly
• 1:49:44
  conservative
• 1:49:46
  the voters are in Michigan,
• 1:49:49
  is it reasonable to conclude that the trilogy...
• 1:49:52
  The unholy trilogy of
• 1:49:54
  of the governor, attorney general, and the secretary of state
• 1:49:59
  got into office through voter fraud. Is that possible?
• 1:50:04
  Unknown: I don't know about getting completely in. A matter of it is also getting people out to vote. You know, people screaming and holler, oh, did you won? Well, did you get out and vote? Well, no. I didn't. Well, don't quit your whining.
• 1:50:15
  Did you get your neighbors out to vote? Did you get the rest of your family all ill?
• 1:50:18
  And that's what we find is you start looking at some of the statistical stuff like hunters.
• 1:50:23
  Here in Michigan, we're a big hunting
• 1:50:25
  state.
• 1:50:26
  And
• 1:50:27
  what is it like?
• 1:50:29
  General election, less than... Fewer than 50%.
• 1:50:33
  And then in the midterms,
• 1:50:35
  we got coming up here, you might see 20% of the 100 voting.
• 1:50:39
  And they have no idea what they're facing because they still have that treaty. They're trying to treaty away the second amendment with the UN.
• 1:50:46
  First of all, I think that's treason, and
• 1:50:49
  we won't comply. It's it's a ridiculous
• 1:50:52
  treaty that they've written up.
• 1:50:55
  But It just doesn't the same time
• 1:50:58
  at the same time, we have this threat of that happening where we're gonna have to do that battle, and it's gonna cost money. So why not get out, get your ballot in there so we can keep control of these houses and senate and all that stuff so we don't go down that path?
• 1:51:14
  Unknown: I see. Sage advice. Sage advice.
• 1:51:17
  Unknown: Mhmm. Brent? So it's your... Oh, go ahead, somebody. I think that's This
• 1:51:23
  Unknown: is Larry.
• 1:51:24
  Getting back to sovereign
• 1:51:26
  citizens
• 1:51:27
  and traffic laws,
• 1:51:29
  I was gonna ask the sheriff if
• 1:51:32
  Uh-huh. Well,
• 1:51:33
  many in the patriot movement and on Rogers platform believe and promote
• 1:51:38
  that all traffic laws are only for those operating in commerce.
• 1:51:43
  Now I don't agree with that
• 1:51:45
  perspective,
• 1:51:46
  but I was wondering what your thoughts are on that.
• 1:51:49
  Unknown: I've had many conversations with these...
• 1:51:52
  I'm not gonna call them sovereigns. I'm gonna call them friends of mine that
• 1:51:56
  just wanna be left alone by government.
• 1:51:58
  And
• 1:51:59
  I I even told him even at the common law, you know, they say they have to have an injured party.
• 1:52:04
  But if I can't walk out to my mailbox about the fear of getting run over by somebody doing a 120 miles an hour down a back road because you wanna you wanna have free rein and all that stuff that you you... You've had, you know, in fact, injured me.
• 1:52:18
  And then they're they're... I've heard them also say, no blood, no foul. I'm going, no. No. The common law doesn't have to wait for a... Somebody to die before he go after you. And, no, that's that's Woah. It doesn't work that way. I mean, even even when that had
• 1:52:32
  horses
• 1:52:32
  and buggies and all that stuff, not a sheriff would go on out and slow somebody down. And if they didn't, he'd lock them up.
• 1:52:38
  So Mhmm. Yeah. You just... You can't be putting other people on the... In danger like that. And
• 1:52:44
  then the other injury too that they forget about is they... They're, well, I didn't have to get insurance on my vehicle. Oh, okay. I understand. I hate paying insurance.
• 1:52:52
  But you hit somebody and you injure them where they...
• 1:52:57
  Let's say, they don't die, but you permanently injure them, you gotta pay up.
• 1:53:03
  How are you gonna do that if you don't have any money?
• 1:53:05
  So that's why we had these things started to begin with.
• 1:53:09
  And
• 1:53:12
  so
• 1:53:14
  I have a hard time
• 1:53:17
  accepting everything you're telling me. I do understand the commerce part. I do understand that. I've I've gone through and looked at this motor vehicle code closer than I ever have. Because when I get to the police academy, they tell us this is the motor vehicle code for speeding and drunk driving and so on and so forth.
• 1:53:32
  They didn't even teach in the academy that
• 1:53:35
  when you do your driver's license and sign on the bottom line, you're doing a contract with the secretary of state that you're gonna follow these rules of the road. Yep. So Mhmm.
• 1:53:44
  And that's what I also bring out to him too is if you have a driver's license, you're agreeing to these terms. You're agreeing that if you drink a drive, you might be locked up in jail.
• 1:53:54
  So,
• 1:53:55
  yeah, that's...
• 1:53:57
  That that one, I feel like a dog chasing my tail on. So I understand what they're trying to do. I don't disagree.
• 1:54:03
  But I... At the same time, I also understand that
• 1:54:06
  there's 63,000
• 1:54:08
  people in my county here.
• 1:54:10
  And if we're not all on the same page, kinda like the bible. Well, we kinda got away from the bible. We're not on the same page.
• 1:54:17
  We're gonna have problems. So
• 1:54:20
  so Well, here. Nothing right there. Yeah.
• 1:54:23
  Unknown: Go ahead, Roger. I was gonna say the people of Barrie County, Michigan are extremely fortunate to have had you in office in that position for the last twenty years, sheriff Darr.
• 1:54:35
  And I I know you must be really looking for somebody
• 1:54:39
  that can do some continuance
• 1:54:42
  here and get in the same office and basically... Well, you know, let me in Rome,
• 1:54:48
  they... The Praetor,
• 1:54:49
  you familiar with that position? It's like the attorney general of Rome.
• 1:54:53
  And they
• 1:54:55
  knew how much power that that position could accumulate.
• 1:54:58
  Therefore, they made the praetor change
• 1:55:01
  every year.
• 1:55:04
  And, generally,
• 1:55:05
  the praetor would follow the body of decisions in the way that his predecessors would do.
• 1:55:12
  But in Rome, the foreign merchants
• 1:55:14
  using this thing called self help remedies, the unit... You know, lean, levy, garnishment, seizure,
• 1:55:20
  and to see the foreign merchants have an easy way of of achieving a remedy where the Roman citizens had to go through very formal court settings,
• 1:55:29
  you know, to to get a remedy and then get it docketed and and get it. And over a course of two hundred years
• 1:55:35
  and pressure
• 1:55:37
  from the Roman citizens on the Praetor at the time
• 1:55:40
  to give them this easy way of remedy,
• 1:55:43
  Finally,
• 1:55:44
  after two hundred years, they incorporated those two, and it was the first melding of the merchant code
• 1:55:51
  and the more traditional common law type codes.
• 1:55:54
  So that's just an interesting background that goes back to this accumulating power in a position.
• 1:56:01
  Unknown: History is so important.
• 1:56:04
  Unknown: I could say proper history is so important. I would never know that not I had this guy as the law teacher because that's what he spent his life, that type of perspectives and things he acquired.
• 1:56:15
  Now I was a hungry student,
• 1:56:18
  and and he was a really good teacher.
• 1:56:20
  And, man, I'm so glad because out of 1,200 people, I'm the only one that has taken his teachings further,
• 1:56:28
  and look what we found.
• 1:56:30
  Unknown: Well, here's Roger. Brings us to a point,
• 1:56:33
  from your experience.
• 1:56:36
  I'm sure if Dara is looking for somebody who... That he can support for sheriff when he retires.
• 1:56:42
  But my idea
• 1:56:44
  and my thinking is how does what sheriff Dyer has compiled in his in his experience and his conscience, how can that be perpetuated
• 1:56:52
  beyond Barry County? That's my thinking.
• 1:56:55
  Unknown: Well For now. Get with a guy like you and start doing publications and writing and putting this down so it doesn't get lost.
• 1:57:04
  Unknown: Well, that's right because... Well, not mine, but I mean, go ahead, sheriff. Yeah. Part of our problem is is that I'm not an attorney.
• 1:57:12
  Unknown: If I go and present something to our state while wanting to educate our law enforcement community,
• 1:57:17
  it's gotta come from an attorney. And you think about it, and a friend of mine told me this, and it it just makes so much sense.
• 1:57:24
  We had about 340,000,000
• 1:57:26
  people here in this country. Less than 1% are attorneys,
• 1:57:29
  but they control probably 90 to 95% of what we do.
• 1:57:34
  Unknown: Yes. Absolutely.
• 1:57:35
  Boy, we we haven't had our our bed and our intro and stuff on in a while, so this signifies, of course, the end of our two hours together here today on the October 23.
• 1:57:46
  And, man, what a joy. Sheriff, it's been to have you with us, and, of course, we'll open the invitation anytime.
• 1:57:53
  Please, you, Brent, whatever. Wanna come back, we'd love to have you. We love your perspective,
• 1:57:58
  and thank
• 1:57:59
  you so much. Okay?
• 1:58:01
  Unknown: Okay. Great. The...
• 1:58:03
  This signifies the end of the Eurofolk radio. To hang out with Hang on, Dave. Hold on, Dave. This signifies the end of the Eurofolk radio portion of the show. However, Global Voice Network will be continuing
• 1:58:16
  to carry the program until people leave. So
• 1:58:19
  if you can hang around, you're more than welcome to, Sharifdar.
• 1:58:24
  Unknown: Okay. That's unusual. Well, we hadn't heard this in a while because we're
• 1:58:29
  in process of some transitioning,
• 1:58:31
  and, it's interesting to hear the old bed back, Paul. So, of course, this Friday tomorrow, we'll be back. I plan on doing another abbreviated show tomorrow for an hour. And, if you got questions or what, whatever, and then I'm gonna take an early weekend.
• 1:58:47
  So, anyway... And then we'll see you back on Monday in the middle of all the confusion. Next week's Israeli election, and the lord knows what all. Maybe we'll have a new student or two. So thank you. Hope you got something out of being in the midst of sheriff Darr,
• 1:59:01
  and we'll look for you again
• 1:59:04
  Unknown: soon. Alright.
• 1:59:07
  Unknown: Hold on just a sec.
• 1:59:13
  Yeah. Well, that. There you go. Hadn't heard that in a while. So, Dave, you wanted to ask sheriff Dara a question?
• 1:59:21
  Unknown: Yeah. I did. Thanks, Roger.
• 1:59:23
  Did... Is sheriff Dara still with us? Yeah. As far as I know. Excellent. Thank you. So sheriff Tarr, Dave in the Thumb here,
• 1:59:32
  we met, I don't know, last time you were on here in the after call,
• 1:59:36
  and I... I'm in the assembly with John Lutke.
• 1:59:40
  I've been hearing about you for a long time,
• 1:59:42
  and I really appreciate your perspective. Now you mentioned something quite a while back about when we were talking about elections,
• 1:59:52
  and you said it was illegal for the UAW
• 1:59:55
  to tell
• 1:59:57
  its members who to vote for. Did you... Is it... Did did I get that? No. No. No. Not exactly right.
• 2:00:03
  Unknown: It was illegal for them to go into polling place with you and make sure you voted a certain way. Yeah. Direct your voting
• 2:00:10
  Unknown: direct your voting at the time you're switch... The switch or whatever.
• 2:00:15
  Unknown: Well, for twenty five years,
• 2:00:18
  those dirty buggers,
• 2:00:20
  you know, have been sending... Well, for longer than that, but to my home,
• 2:00:24
  you know, they send a...
• 2:00:26
  Every every election
• 2:00:28
  cycle,
• 2:00:29
  they send a list of who you're supposed to vote for as a member of the UAW.
• 2:00:37
  And I would say,
• 2:00:39
  you know, most people
• 2:00:41
  that... You know, before the Internet, we didn't know how to look up somebody to vote for. Who are we voting for? Who are these people running for office? Who are these selections?
• 2:00:52
  And then once we did get the Internet,
• 2:00:55
  you know,
• 2:00:57
  did we have the time to go do that? You know, most people vote... I think most people, this is my opinion,
• 2:01:04
  vote vote for who they're... They pick who they vote for by the way they sound and the way they look and what promises they've made them.
• 2:01:14
  And, you know, the... Most people in the UAW,
• 2:01:18
  you know, they work so hard and work so many hours. They don't have time to go look up. So they figured the union's looking out for them,
• 2:01:26
  Unknown: so they vote for who the union tells them to vote for.
• 2:01:30
  Unknown: So I think that corrupt... That that election with the the three witches of Eastbrook
• 2:01:36
  here,
• 2:01:37
  that
• 2:01:38
  was definitely fraud
• 2:01:41
  involved in that. I can't prove it, but I'm sure some investigator
• 2:01:46
  could.
• 2:01:47
  So I just wanna let you know that's been going on here for, you know, at least twenty five years, probably much longer than that in in in our home, you know, the UAW telling everybody who to vote for, and I'd say 90% of those members did
• 2:02:03
  exactly what they were told to vote early days for the vote for. So thank you for your perspective.
• 2:02:09
  Unknown: I'm from a UAW family too. My dad retired from General Motors. He's a machine repairman.
• 2:02:15
  My sister was a... On the maintenance program over in Flint. She retired from there, and her husband retired from there as a,
• 2:02:22
  I think, tool and die. And so I'm very familiar with the UAW. And yes, they do send that stuff out. But the NRA does it,
• 2:02:29
  right to life does it.
• 2:02:31
  So
• 2:02:32
  where do you draw the line?
• 2:02:34
  A lot of these people join these organizations
• 2:02:36
  to be told how to vote.
• 2:02:39
  Unknown: Sheriff
• 2:02:41
  Dhar, are you starting to have that with all those lakes and all that water? Are you starting to have data centers pop up around there?
• 2:02:50
  Unknown: Well, I'm surprised we haven't because data centers require a lot of water, and we have 327
• 2:02:55
  lakes.
• 2:02:57
  And we're 579
• 2:03:00
  square miles, something like that.
• 2:03:01
  580 somewhere on that ballpark.
• 2:03:04
  Unknown: Just, you don't have a... Just make sure they don't sneak something through the city council that seems out there getting to do it, go in there and corrupting a couple of them and then just steamrolling over anybody. Hopefully, your county's not like that. Sounds beautiful. I
• 2:03:20
  Unknown: I I
• 2:03:21
  keep an eye on that. And my question to the
• 2:03:24
  the leaders right now, one, they're they're kissing the ring of the state, and the state's ordering, oh, you gotta have these
• 2:03:31
  solar panels and all this stuff. And I'm going, no. You're independent elected office.
• 2:03:36
  Why are allowing the state to bully around like that? Just blows my mind.
• 2:03:40
  But
• 2:03:41
  the
• 2:03:43
  question I ask everybody is how long are these data centers gonna be around? Because my feeling is about ten years can be obsolete anyways.
• 2:03:52
  Unknown: If, you know, very well could be.
• 2:03:55
  Yeah. Wouldn't be the first boondoggle they ever got us into, would it?
• 2:04:00
  Unknown: Oh, the green energy. How many trillions of dollars globally were in that green energy? Who invested in it? And what was it really all about? Was it about going green, or was it about funding,
• 2:04:10
  Unknown: making sure we had enough energy for these data centers? They would get tax write offs from a lot of that stuff. The windmills and all that crap, that was a whole tax write off scam.
• 2:04:24
  That was nothing about going green, though. No. No. I had something else to do entirely, of course.
• 2:04:29
  Unknown: Sheriff Please.
• 2:04:31
  Unknown: Yeah. Hi, Joe. This is Joe in Oklahoma, sheriff. I think you... Hey. Go ahead, Joe. Hey.
• 2:04:38
  Unknown: I'm a marine.
• 2:04:40
  I was a radar tech years ago.
• 2:04:42
  And,
• 2:04:43
  so I understand about wireless radiation.
• 2:04:47
  And now what the cities are doing, they're going to these what they call fifteen minute cities.
• 2:04:52
  Unknown: Yes. All
• 2:04:54
  Unknown: over the place. Oklahoma,
• 2:04:56
  I live in Owasso,
• 2:04:58
  Claremore,
• 2:04:59
  Tulsa,
• 2:05:01
  all these places and we're looking at data centers. But let me share, I didn't understand this until about three months ago because
• 2:05:09
  I came home
• 2:05:11
  and they were putting in these big high power lines I've never seen before at a frantic pace. And they call them
• 2:05:19
  the ARC capital A,
• 2:05:21
  small r, small c, capital G,
• 2:05:24
  capital I, capital S surveillance
• 2:05:27
  system.
• 2:05:28
  And those lines
• 2:05:31
  are
• 2:05:32
  designed
• 2:05:33
  to pull out all the information
• 2:05:36
  that the data centers are going to process.
• 2:05:39
  And those lines are running at 24 gigahertz, 72 gigahertz and 92 gigahertz.
• 2:05:46
  I work with international
• 2:05:48
  electrical engineer. We work together
• 2:05:51
  with all this information.
• 2:05:53
  And the health issues are destructive to all the Americans. This is treason in my opinion
• 2:06:00
  of what they're doing to the American people. But they're installing all these
• 2:06:05
  art dust lines because they believe that's gonna help
• 2:06:10
  public safety,
• 2:06:11
  and they don't... They blow past everything else. Always
• 2:06:14
  Unknown: the excuse.
• 2:06:16
  Unknown: Yes. And so Oh, Brent Franklin warned us about that. Yep.
• 2:06:20
  Unknown: Yep.
• 2:06:22
  But mean
• 2:06:24
  Unknown: May I make my comment now? Oh, I thought this was your friend. I'm sorry, Joe. Oh, okay. Alright. That's okay, sir. Thank you for your input. I don't know who you were. We're glad you're listening. Joe?
• 2:06:35
  Unknown: Yes.
• 2:06:37
  Unknown: Just remember, if you have a pension
• 2:06:41
  that you're paying into,
• 2:06:43
  you are supporting
• 2:06:45
  these
• 2:06:46
  data centers Yeah. The green energy and everything else because
• 2:06:50
  you feed money into that beast every month,
• 2:06:54
  and they have to have some place to go with that currency.
• 2:06:59
  And
• 2:07:00
  they've... They amass
• 2:07:02
  gazillions
• 2:07:03
  of dollars.
• 2:07:04
  So that's what drive... The pension funds
• 2:07:08
  and
• 2:07:09
  the like are the ones that drive the stock market. They're the ones that provide the money for the data centers. They're the ones that provide the money for all of these different deals.
• 2:07:20
  And I don't see any end to it until the
• 2:07:24
  stock market and all that stuff collapses
• 2:07:27
  because
• 2:07:28
  everybody's feeding it. If you have a retirement account, you're feeding it.
• 2:07:35
  Unknown: That's my comment. No. You're absolutely right, Joe. And you... That... You even had Larry Fink on a panel
• 2:07:41
  and get up and and say, we're gonna use these monies to do this. The way they did it in Europe
• 2:07:48
  was they came out with what's called a unified
• 2:07:52
  ledger.
• 2:07:53
  And the gal got up and said, we're gonna have a unified ledger. That means they're gonna take all the stuff that you got on the books, and they're gonna put it in the middle, and then they're gonna put themselves
• 2:08:03
  over there, and they're gonna steal it. That's what a unified ledger is. It's theirs.
• 2:08:11
  Unknown: If I may? Yes, ma'am.
• 2:08:14
  Hi, Roger. In regards to that statement
• 2:08:17
  with anybody who has a pension,
• 2:08:20
  does that include those that have declared that they are no longer a fourteenth amendment citizen, or are they taken out of the equation? I guess.
• 2:08:29
  Unknown: I would say I've heard them, people with more expertise in this area than myself,
• 2:08:34
  say that you do have an option, but you gotta check with your particular fund first.
• 2:08:41
  They have to... If you take your
• 2:08:44
  name, say, write them a letter and say, I don't want any of my proceeds
• 2:08:48
  involved in any of this this stuff, then they have to exempt you. But that's fund to fund is my understanding, so you'd have to check and see if that applies to you and yours.
• 2:09:00
  Unknown: For each fund?
• 2:09:01
  Unknown: For whatever fund it is. Yes. Can I exempt myself from?
• 2:09:05
  Well, you know what's really going on is in the background, private equity.
• 2:09:10
  Private equity has eaten up a lot of these industries,
• 2:09:14
  and it's... They're back back full and filling out the profits
• 2:09:19
  of franchises
• 2:09:20
  and stuff like that, and they're running off with the money. Okay. And, you know, that's what's going on. But there's... That's in the background of a lot of this because they've got to perpetuate
• 2:09:29
  earnings on an exponential
• 2:09:31
  scale. And you make money for a while and then the whole thing crashes.
• 2:09:35
  And that's where a lot of these monies are going. And Trump
• 2:09:39
  said you got access to pension funds, these private equity groups a while back.
• 2:09:45
  So, you know, I'm... It's not my form of expertise, but if you got that stuff,
• 2:09:50
  you ought to look into it.
• 2:09:53
  Unknown: Well, in in regards to that, it seems like every time I go to a website
• 2:09:58
  and I posted this out there that I have to write affidavit.
• 2:10:02
  And along with
• 2:10:04
  all of the
• 2:10:06
  board members on these websites,
• 2:10:09
  I mean, it's every country
• 2:10:11
  that these letters have to be sent to affidavits,
• 2:10:14
  every single one who is associated with them. I wouldn't want
• 2:10:19
  my name, you know, what Uh-huh. I'm You're
• 2:10:23
  Unknown: talking about the the pension funds. Right?
• 2:10:26
  Unknown: I would not want it to support anything that's going to destroy people or No. Poise the ground Yeah. Or, you know, like that. We live in a farming area, and I went to the board, and I says, I really don't want you putting that kind of stuff on our land. I don't wanna be, you know, said that here in the thumb, we don't have good food. I would like for you guys to
• 2:10:49
  look and do more research into cleaning up our soils, cleaning up the land. Amen. That's what we have as a America
• 2:10:57
  that
• 2:10:59
  bans
• 2:11:01
  the bad stuff here just like they do another.
• 2:11:04
  Unknown: I think you state what state are you in?
• 2:11:08
  Unknown: On Michigan.
• 2:11:10
  Unknown: Well, so do you know sheriff Darr? Do you know sheriff Darr?
• 2:11:15
  Unknown: David does.
• 2:11:17
  Unknown: Oh. First time Just curious. I'm not... Just wondered if you said that...
• 2:11:22
  Well, I wanna know where you're from because it had some bearing upon some of the comments you made about...
• 2:11:31
  I'll leave it at that. I appreciate you saying, though. You're a Michigander, and you're up there where there's a lot of farmers, and you're thinking that the land is being abused. And
• 2:11:40
  I agree with you, course. Yep. Thanks. Thanks for your comments. I believe that was Dale's wife, Pam. Was it Pam?
• 2:11:49
  Unknown: That's right. Oh, hey, Pam. I If it wasn't for Dave, I wouldn't be attending half of these calls. So I appreciate all the knowledge and, all of the education that everybody that David listens to brings.
• 2:12:02
  Unknown: Well Roger,
• 2:12:04
  Unknown: Roger, can you tell me little bit. Go ahead, Brent.
• 2:12:08
  Can you tell me who David is? I'm catching up here. Dave in the thumb. He's usually on with us. He's legally blind
• 2:12:14
  and a big patriot and used to live down in Texas. Family built shopping centers and stuff. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. He's a regular participant listener. We love him to death. And and,
• 2:12:26
  although we do... Jab him every now and then just because we love him. You know? You don't tease people you don't love is my father used to say.
• 2:12:35
  Is he still... Is he with us today? Yeah. He's a... He was... There's his wife talking right there and him before that.
• 2:12:42
  Unknown: Oh. He's he's a UAW family guy. Yeah, Brent. We've we've spoken before. This is Dave McComb. I just was talking to Dar
• 2:12:49
  about the UAW.
• 2:12:51
  Unknown: Yes. I remember you. Okay. I got your place now. Thank you. Okay.
• 2:12:56
  Unknown: You wanna know something about the unions here?
• 2:13:00
  I've got a little saying I've been saying for years.
• 2:13:02
  Whether or not you like unions, there's always one thing worse than a union. You know what that is?
• 2:13:07
  Unknown: What?
• 2:13:08
  Unknown: The need for it.
• 2:13:11
  Unknown: True that.
• 2:13:12
  Unknown: True that. Good. Yeah.
• 2:13:14
  Unknown: Yeah. We wouldn't have unions here if if workers weren't abused.
• 2:13:17
  Unknown: How? And just like anything else, we take it too far. What age is your grandson now that you're raising and gonna raise?
• 2:13:25
  Unknown: He's two.
• 2:13:26
  Unknown: Oh my goodness gracious. What a lucky
• 2:13:29
  young kid.
• 2:13:31
  Be raised by a father like you. How fortunate.
• 2:13:35
  Unknown: Sheriff, since you have chosen to stay on, I...
• 2:13:39
  One wants you to tell if you feel comfortable doing it.
• 2:13:43
  If you've gotten any flack
• 2:13:46
  from being on teaching these law classes with me,
• 2:13:50
  have you gotten any flack or trouble or letters from any organizations
• 2:13:55
  complaining that you didn't have the
• 2:13:58
  right to
• 2:13:59
  teach classes with me because I offer a prayer at the beginning of the class.
• 2:14:05
  Unknown: Yeah. A long time ago, I did, and I haven't seen one set. Some organization, I think they're out of Wisconsin.
• 2:14:11
  Unknown: Uh-huh. And I forgot what the name of them were. And they said you shouldn't be doing that as a as a sheriff. And I'm going...
• 2:14:19
  Unknown: Not too bad.
• 2:14:20
  Unknown: Sheriff,
• 2:14:21
  did the recent county commission meetings. YouTube, Brent, they're in the Midwest
• 2:14:26
  that were opened with a prayer to Satan. Did y'all see that... Videos of that? Good gravy. Well, that's nice. In Michigan's constitution
• 2:14:34
  Unknown: Michigan's constitution says you have a right to worship god according to your own conscience. It didn't say Satan. It didn't say Right. God.
• 2:14:42
  Mhmm. So Mhmm. I remind our commissioner once in a while that that's what that law says, and that's the supreme law of Michigan.
• 2:14:50
  And
• 2:14:51
  so they prayer... They'd say a prayer to God
• 2:14:55
  before,
• 2:14:55
  our meetings.
• 2:14:57
  Unknown: Mhmm. Okay. Well, they did this one. And then a low preacher was there and tried to say a prayer to override the prayer to Satan. It's quite a quite a scene, Brent. I'm surprised somebody didn't see this clip.
• 2:15:10
  Unknown: Well,
• 2:15:11
  I'll look it up. But the supreme court to the United States always opens with prayer. May God save this...
• 2:15:18
  The United States and this honorable court. The senate to the United States opened with prayer.
• 2:15:23
  The US...
• 2:15:25
  The house of representatives,
• 2:15:27
  most of the state legislature,
• 2:15:28
  the school boards.
• 2:15:29
  And the reason for that is because we are an unofficial Christian nation. Uh-huh. And that's the most powerful kind of Christian nation there is, and we are the most powerful
• 2:15:39
  Christian nation that has ever existed on the planet.
• 2:15:43
  And it's not because our law demands it. It's because it's who we are.
• 2:15:47
  That may be going away. Maybe. I'm not sure. I do a lot of traveling.
• 2:15:51
  And for all the and all the racket noise we hear about
• 2:15:56
  the government saying we're not a Christian nation and trying to to accommodate
• 2:16:01
  Sharia law and on canon law and all the other silly religious... Silly, no dangerous religious points of view of the law of the city, the canon civil laws of the Roman Empire.
• 2:16:12
  We
• 2:16:13
  still,
• 2:16:14
  have a a resistance against it. And as I travel,
• 2:16:18
  what I discover is I meet a lot of people, and I like to talk to people, have a childish interest in people, and everybody's got a story that most people don't tell it. But when you start asking questions,
• 2:16:30
  you find out that most people have lived lived excited and interesting lives, and they tell me, overwhelmingly,
• 2:16:37
  I'm Christian.
• 2:16:39
  So there are a lot of Christian folks out there, a lot of families. They're serious,
• 2:16:42
  real serious about their Christianity.
• 2:16:45
  But somehow, the evil empire and the useful idiots thereof squelch it. For example, in Michigan,
• 2:16:51
  how Christian can you get more Christian than Michigan?
• 2:16:54
  Dutch... The Dutch settlers, the Dutch reformed
• 2:16:58
  Protestant settlers
• 2:16:59
  have been the most powerful influence in that state from the very beginning. I went up there to see sheriff Darla driving down the country roads out in the middle of nowhere, and just one run after another, I see signs that say Christian reform school,
• 2:17:12
  reform church, Dutch reform church, and others too. And there are Baptist and others. But Dutch Reformed, which is about as hardcore Christian as you can get, most of them, they're always exception, but they they dominate the state. How is it that this trilogy of the unholy trinity, these three
• 2:17:32
  whatever they are. I don't know if they're... They call themselves men, women, or what. They're just... They're insanely
• 2:17:38
  lawless.
• 2:17:39
  The governor, the secretary of state, and the the Attorney general.
• 2:17:43
  Yeah. Then how do they get into office except by fraud? You know, the left can't... Cannot
• 2:17:50
  get into office telling the truth about themselves. It started way back way before John Kennedy. But John Kennedy is something some of us remember. How did he get into all this? He lied. And then he he did it with voter fraud, 25,000
• 2:18:03
  ghost votes. He talked to conservative line, very conservative. People say, oh, he was conservative. No. He wasn't. He was about a left wing communist as you can get. The politics is all about lying. That's the way that works. It's amazing that people actually listen to these folk in office and say, well, he's a good man. He said this. No. That doesn't mean nothing. That doesn't mean a pension right out of office. Never has. Never will. Get used to it. Understand what politics is. It's warfare of the worst, ugliest kind, and that's our answer to have this process with three coequal branches of government. We have to have government,
• 2:18:38
  and that's part of the landscape. It's dangerous. Well, here I am jabbering. Did somebody say Brent? Is sheriff Darr still here? Did he wanna say something else? Is he still here? I
• 2:18:50
  Unknown: gotta get going here pretty quick. I'm right sitting out in the parking lot of an attorney's office. So Oh, good. Hope
• 2:18:56
  Unknown: you're not on the clock.
• 2:18:58
  Unknown: Hey, sheriff Dara. So, you know Yeah. Yeah. I want you to know... I'll say it publicly. Boy, we appreciate you coming on. A lot of people came to listen today because, well, I think Roger said you were gonna be here. As I like to say, you heard me say your boots on the ground. You're doing it. And you you talk about, I'm not a lawyer, and I know you're not a lawyer, but, I would put you up against lawyers for understanding the fundamentals of common law government. Most of them don't even know they're common lawyers in a common law country. They can't tell the difference. But this this is a common law country. Common law dominates what we do here. Whether we acknowledge it or understand just like Christianity dominates, whether we acknowledge it or not. The Christian culture is what's underneath it all and over top it all. So thanks for coming, sheriff. Appreciate you. We'll...
• 2:19:45
  Unknown: Yeah. Sheriff Darla, let's do it again soon whenever you get get the wiggle room. We'd love to have you back.
• 2:19:51
  Unknown: Yeah. I appreciate it. Thank you very much. Yeah. Alright. Thank you, sir. Oh, man. What else? Alright. I'll
• 2:19:58
  Unknown: see you next week, brother. Okay.
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  Unknown: Yes. Thank you, sir.
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  And I encourage you, all of you,
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  to go to the website commonlawyer.com
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  and take advantage of what's there. And and the courses, they're about an... Or more than a dozen common law courses, sheriff
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  Darleaf and I have presented
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  together
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  everything from contracts and evidence to trust law, how to draft a common law asset protection trust.
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  And we're trying to focus more on being local. How local can you get? Family. Family is local government. They say, well, you don't have a family. You're living by yourself. Well, then govern yourself. Govern
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  your house. If you live under a bridge, that's the the the land or the the parcel that God has given you, the space, the spot he has given you to keep order in his order. And if you order your life according to the orders of the God of all order, then you will have tranquility
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  in the midst of this absolute utter
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  madness.
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  Unknown: Absolute what it is.
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  Unknown: Yeah. And there's no other way to have it, friends, and the madness has never... It's always been here, and it's just gonna continue. But what God wants is for you to be in the world, not of it, and have his order in the midst of this madness. And if you do, you'll be like David, king of Israel. He said, twenty third Psalm,
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  analogizing
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  everything
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  in his life to his days as a shepherd of sheep.
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  People say, well, I'm not a sheeple. I'm not sheep. Well, the Bible says you are if you're Christian. You're analogized to sheep. You're that stupid, that weak, that defenseless. And if you don't come to that conclusion or haven't come to it, if you're Christian, you will.
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  And you must,
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  and you have to depend entirely upon the sovereignty, not your sovereignty.
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  The sovereignty of make... The maker of heaven and earth. And David says there, thou
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  has prepared a table for me.
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  The Hebrew text says by the letters
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  in the in. Yeah. In the faces of my enemies.
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  That's what he'll do for you. He'll bring your order to your life.
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  You'll be right... Your enemies will be surrounding you with their mouths foaming and gnashing their teeth at you, wanting to kill you, throw you in jail, slander you,
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  and he'll have set up a sumptuous
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  feed for you to sit down, relax, and eat, and it won't bother you if
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  your mind is fixed, as it says, on him.
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  And that's...
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  Yeah. That's it, friends. I know God will use you. It's not that he doesn't want you to do things. He wants you to do a lot, and he says this. If you just simply do what I tell you to do, we got 10 commandments here. That's a good start. Try one or two of them. Just do it. He says, do that in your family, in your home, with yourself,
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  governing your tongue, your hands, your body,
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  and I will annihilate your enemies.
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  That's all. Remember Gideon?
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  Gideon? Roger,
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  did... You went to Sunday school as a boy or not?
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  Yes. Probably some. Yeah. No. Yes. Well, there's a story about Vacation bible school. All that stuff. Oh, all that. Oh, well, that says a lot. That tells me something about it too, Roger. But you get in... You know, stories... The stories of the Old Testament are not just stories for children. To me, I understand now what God is saying. Gideon. Gideon's in a pit with a roof over the top.
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  He's treading out and
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  winnowing his grain, not winnowing it, but pounding it out with a tribulo because
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  he doesn't want the Midianites to see him down there and steal his grain. He's he's living like a coward. He's living in fear, and God comes to him and says, hail thou mighty man of Israel. It's a joke, not a mighty man of Israel. He said, I'm gonna take you, somebody who appears to be a coward and and a receding from the enemy,
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  and I'm gonna take you and put you in charge of the militia of Israel.
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  And so he said, oh, okay.
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  And then he takes all this militia of Israel, and they go down to the to the creek there. And he says, I want everybody there to get a drink of water. And he said, I want you to go down through, and every man that laps the water like a dog gets his face right down the water and laps it like a dog or tries to suck it up. I want you to send him home.
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  And the the men that cup the water and bring it up to their mouths with their hand,
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  keep them. Well, he just kept saying, Ben, I want you to tell everybody that has to go home for this lawful reason or that. And he ends up with only 300 men.
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  Is that okay, Gideon?
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  Now you're somebody that nobody thinks much of. You got these 300 men. I want you to take them to Jericho,
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  and I want you to give them each a lantern
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  and a trumpet
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  or a ram's horn. And I want you to put the lantern inside of a jar so nobody can see it, and I want them to light it.
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  And when I give you the signal, I want you to tell... After they've lit all their lanterns, these 300 men, of course, they marched around the city. You can go read the story. Seven times, they did that. But break the jars in the middle of the night. Break the jars and
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  holler out the Gideon,
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  the sword of the Lord in Gideon.
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  And he said, I'll destroy your enemies.
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  I'll destroy your enemies.
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  What? You don't want us to attack? No. I just want you to do what I tell you to do. But this is stupid. Well, I don't care if you think it's stupid. I want you to do what I tell you to do. It's that simple. Just shut up. Do what you're told. They did, and the Midians turned on each other and destroyed each other. I'm watching
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  the evil empire right now eat itself. You sure are.
• 2:25:34
  And they they never stop, by the way. It goes on nonstop,
• 2:25:38
  and it's not going as fast as you want it to go. I listened to a fellow the other day say, the kingdom of god... I agree with him. The kingdom of god is here as Jesus Christ said. It's among us. What is it? It's his delegations of authority. Sheriff Darius said a while ago, a little bit ago, he said, when I first became sheriff, the first thing I learned was I learned about delegation of authority and I realized other people didn't have a clue about that. Yeah. What is delegation of authority? Well, the Bible says without being birthed of the spirit from above, you can't even see
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  the kingdom of God. But I'm telling you, I see it everywhere I look. God's delegation of authority to every one of his people and people who aren't his people.
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  And like sheriffs
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  and legislators and other people. All people that have authority over land if they're farmers or just their house maybe, which is an important item if that's all you've got or...
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  Everybody's delegated authority from God, Romans chapter 13.
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  I'm watching it, and I'm watching the kingdom of God
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  move
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  forward
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  sure footedly
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  and slowly,
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  but never endingly moving forward. It's a juggernaut, friends. I heard a guy say the other day that some... Somebody
• 2:26:53
  from CNN, what was Anderson? Who's that sodomite that's Anderson Cooper or whatever his name is? Bad bad sense.
• 2:27:01
  Yeah. And he was saying that, well, when do you think the kingdom of God is coming? Do you think this is a Christian nation, and we're scared you're gonna try to control everything? He said, get real, man. It's clear. Maybe two hundred and fifty years. I don't know. But I I won't be here when it happens. Maybe. I I don't. But I foresee that I'm involved in the coming kingdom of God. However, whenever he wants to just bring it on, he'll bring it on full force. But my job in the meantime is just to follow his laws, do what he says to do, And I'll tell you something, friends. I've learned for what it's worth, my personal testimony. That's what I like to give. That scares the h e, double l, out of the useful idiots of the evil empire if they know there's somebody in an obscure place like Barry County, Michigan. An obscure place
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  like Barry County, Michigan, if there's a sheriff there who just saying, oh, I just wanna do what the law says. Do what's right.
• 2:27:51
  They're scared, and they want to destroy. You betcha. Every little
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  expression
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  of desire
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  or
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  adherence
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  to God's law, his laws of nature, and the laws of nature of God, they'll be after it. Oh, they'll see it, and they'll come after it. Don't think they won't. You must, of course, and God will teach you this through discipline
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  to maintain his order and his tranquility
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  in your life. I say to... I'm I'm... My situation,
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  my... All eight of my children are gone, married, having babies, all those things that people do. I'm just here with missus Brent. We've been married for near fifty years, forty nine.
• 2:28:30
  And I say to her, what's our job? We check-in in the morning. What's our job? But maybe you aren't married. A lot of... I'm fortunate right now. We still got each other. That... Who knows how long it'll last? Hope it'll last another fifty year, but that's not my business.
• 2:28:44
  But in any case, whether I'm by myself
• 2:28:47
  or we're together, what... Our job is just to present god's order between us and our... Whatever god's given us, god's order, not mine, as meager as it may be,
• 2:28:58
  his order according to his law to the world. And if you do that, friends,
• 2:29:05
  the fight will be on, and you will be god's man and woman. Listen. I was talking to a fellow who used to be a well known radio and Internet... Well, Roger, I won't tell you who it is. Not on the air, but he used to be really well known.
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  And
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  he said, well,
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  do do you think we ought to confront the enemy head on? I said, not. No. No.
• 2:29:25
  God will do that. And if he wants to use us, he will. But right now, he wants us to operate. This is not the invasion. The kingdom of god, you've heard me say this here here, is not the invasion of Normandy.
• 2:29:36
  No. It's covert operations. We're behind the lines. We are people,
• 2:29:41
  strangers in a foreign land, so to speak. Gorilla warfare.
• 2:29:45
  Gorilla warfare. Yeah. Yeah. And how do you do that? That's why I said, Wallach, well, how do you do that? You just quietly
• 2:29:53
  do what God tells you to do. You won't have to go looking for the enemy. He'll find you. And when he finds you, then you've got to decide what to do as he pursues you. That's the way it works.
• 2:30:05
  And God will sustain you. And even if they throw you in a fiery furnace like they did the three Hebrew boys and the prophet of Daniel, you'll come out of the of the fiery furnace, and your clothes won't even smell like smoke. That's what it says about them.
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  I believe that with all my heart, friends. So be encouraged.
• 2:30:22
  God is moving forward. Your job is his glory. Give him the glory. Always give somebody else the credit, and you get the enjoyment. That's the Christian life in a nutshell. God
• 2:30:33
  God bless you all. I'm... I need to go, Roger. Thank you so much. Thank you. As always. We'll we'll look for you next Friday, and,
• 2:30:42
  Unknown: but always just appreciate you on... And and bringing along sheriff Darrah's like the supreme honor. So thank you, sir. We'll see you next week. Thank you. Safe week.
• 2:30:53
  Unknown: Yes. Thank you, Roger. And Lord willing, we'll see you all next
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  week, I reckon. Yeah. Yeah.
• 2:31:00
  Unknown: Yeah. Alright. Alright, buddy. Be be careful.
• 2:31:04
  Thank you, Roger. Good buddy Brent Winthers were never known all those years ago when our paths crossed that this relationship would develop and
• 2:31:12
  be as close as it is as Brent and I feel for each other and never having met. K?
• 2:31:19
  And I mean, we've done shows. Yeah. No. Never. We've done shows
• 2:31:24
  when he was up North Of Anchorage there in the Matanuska Valley around Palmer
• 2:31:29
  and was on the Internet that was on a laser beam.
• 2:31:32
  And I was in Northern Patagonia and Argentina,
• 2:31:36
  and it was perfect.
• 2:31:38
  Unknown: So we've had some Welcome, and thank you for choosing Freak Oh, I'm sorry, Roger. I'm glad you're
• 2:31:43
  Unknown: people around the on. Communicate you go. Well, Brenna, know that you're there. Anyway, just what a pleasure it is and the way our relationship has developed, and it's
• 2:31:54
  I I I really, you know, hold it precious. So... And your appearance is with us of great importance,
• 2:32:02
  and I look forward to them. I know the audience does too. So just one of those things.
• 2:32:08
  Yeah. Thank you, Roger. Man, well God bless you, gentlemen. Yeah. Thank you. There's sheriff Darr too. We'll see you soon, hopefully, Darn. And y'all be be careful. Have a good week.
• 2:32:20
  And us, we'll be back tomorrow, of course, on our regular little deal, although maybe a bit abbreviated tomorrow because of external
• 2:32:28
  circumstances.
• 2:32:30
  So... But anyway, we'll regather and see how it goes, and I just love seeing y'all on a regular basis.
• 2:32:36
  All you little dots on the on the board here. So anybody got anything for me?
• 2:32:42
  I was pretty quiet today, which is, I know, unusual.
• 2:32:46
  Unknown: You know, Roger, I haven't I haven't said this to a man in a long time,
• 2:32:51
  but I love sheriff Daugher. Oh, yeah. He's great.
• 2:32:57
  Unknown: I... We've just, you know, we got something special going here, Sam, as evidenced by you. I mean, how... You've been hanging around,
• 2:33:04
  gosh, at least ten years, I would think. Right? Maybe longer.
• 2:33:08
  Lisa's
• 2:33:09
  been around for for, you know, since Old Blue was a pup.
• 2:33:13
  You just can't get this information anywhere else. You get addicted to it.
• 2:33:21
  I do anyway, and I think you do.
• 2:33:23
  So Absolutely right. Alright, Sam. Glad to have you, buddy.
• 2:33:29
  I guess when you're over in... Living in Thailand, you'll still listen in or listen to the archives. I don't know what time of day it would be over there right now.
• 2:33:38
  Unknown: Yeah. It'll... It... My father willing, it'll be in Asia, but Thailand knows. Thailand has been corrupted pretty much. Okay.
• 2:33:47
  Unknown: Well, anyway, let's get your property sold first and get it out ahead of whatever's coming financially.
• 2:33:55
  And the rest of you, we'll be back tomorrow, and glad you're here. Found us however, and tell others.
• 2:34:01
  But before you bring people to the show, if they're... Please have them watch a presentation
• 2:34:07
  of some... One of the ones that are up there on the website and have an idea of what they're listening to and not just plop them down if you would. That'd be a great service to them.
• 2:34:19
  So, otherwise, in that, I'm gonna call it a day, kids. Nothing else for me?
• 2:34:24
  Unknown: Have a good weekend, Roger.
• 2:34:26
  Unknown: Well, no. I'm gonna be with you in the morning, Sam.
• 2:34:29
  Oh, after that. Yeah. I mean, we can start till then, but thank you. Hope y'all have a good day,
• 2:34:36
  and that will... You'll
• 2:34:38
  rejoin us tomorrow.
• 2:34:40
  So love you. See you soon. One way or the other. Ciao.
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