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Speaker 1: All right, you're listening to Eagles postgame analysis here at
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Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Sports Table podcast show, the longest running weekly
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Speaker 1: Philly sports podcast show in the world. The Philadelphia Eagles
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Speaker 1: absolutely pissing away this Week five game against the Denver Broncos.
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Speaker 1: They lose to the Broncos down at the Link, their
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Speaker 1: first loss of the season, first loss at Lincoln Financial Field,
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Speaker 1: by a score of twenty one to seventeen. We are
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Speaker 1: going to get into our themes of the game, as
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Speaker 1: we do after every Eagles game, and also we're gonna
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Speaker 1: grade each unit as well. I'm Jeff Warren. We are
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Speaker 1: by good buddy from Philadelphia Soccer now over the years
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Speaker 1: he has filled in for the guys and in terms
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Speaker 1: of doing some Eagles postgame analysis here, Josh Schuster, Josh,
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Speaker 1: you know what, maybe we should just talk about the
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Speaker 1: fact that the Philadelphia Union were the most impressive and
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Speaker 1: most important winning team here in the here in Philadelphia
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Speaker 1: this past week when you know, locking in the supporter
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Speaker 1: shield here. Maybe we should just talk about them instead
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Speaker 1: of this dumb Eagles team at this point.
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Speaker 2: Geez, yeah, Jeff, I thought that's what we were here
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Speaker 2: to talk about. Oh okay, I must have Communion are
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Speaker 2: the best team in the MLS. Yeah, they are going
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Speaker 2: to compete for a championship and that everything is sunshine
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Speaker 2: and Rose pedals here in Philadelphia's the other teams, you're
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Speaker 2: not having any problems, well whatsoever? It's fine.
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Speaker 1: I guess I confused you. I guess I confused everybody.
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Speaker 1: With the ticker on the bottom here the banner, I
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Speaker 1: should just put Philadelphia Union are great. That's what I
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Speaker 1: should put at this point. But I wanted to mention
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Speaker 1: that just because you know what, folks, there is something
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Speaker 1: good happening in the world of Philly sports, and that
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Speaker 1: is the Philadelphia Union at this point. But yes, we
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Speaker 1: do have to get into this Week five matchup between
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Speaker 1: the Broncos and the Eagles. On the injury front, landon
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Speaker 1: Dickerson going out with an angle ankle injury in the
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Speaker 1: first quarter. We know he's been nursing the back injury.
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Speaker 1: Grant Calcata went out with an oblique injury as well.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna be keeping tabs on what happens with these
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Speaker 1: two players over the course of this next week before
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Speaker 1: Week six. But let's start off with the themes. Buddy
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Speaker 1: look man coming into this game, the Eagles offense had
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Speaker 1: the highest rate of three and outs in the entire league.
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Speaker 1: They had two in the first half, and they had
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Speaker 1: a few in the second half as well. And interestingly enough,
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Speaker 1: the offensive play calling, I think, actually went how most
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Speaker 1: fans wanted it to go this week. Perhaps, I say
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Speaker 1: perhaps because before that final quote drive of the game
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Speaker 1: where the Eagles only basically had about you know, you know,
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Speaker 1: thirty seconds fifty seconds of the game to try to
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Speaker 1: win it, and we knew they weren't going to at
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Speaker 1: that point. Before that last drive, thirty three pass plays
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Speaker 1: to eleven rushing plays. Again, before that final drive of
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Speaker 1: the game, AJ Brown catching the ball more. He was
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Speaker 1: targeted eight times. He came down with five catches for
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Speaker 1: forty three yards. DeVante Smith targeted ten times, he came
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Speaker 1: down eight yards, I'm sorry, came down with eight balls
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Speaker 1: for one hundred and fourteen yards. Saquon Barkley had a touchdown.
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Speaker 1: Dallas Goddard had a touchdown as well. Not a terrible
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Speaker 1: game for Jalen Hurts in terms of his numbers, but look,
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Speaker 1: this was an offensive failure, I think. Well, I hate
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Speaker 1: to use the word failure. Is it a failure with
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Speaker 1: what they did they win. You're absolutely correct, they did
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Speaker 1: not win. But my point here with this theme is
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Speaker 1: we wanted them to do something. They did it. We
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Speaker 1: did see success, but at the end of the day,
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Speaker 1: the offense faltered. They still faltered even after doing what
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Speaker 1: we wanted them to do. And after two of our
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Speaker 1: wide receivers duos, some of the best in the NFL
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Speaker 1: got more targets this week, came down with more balls.
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Speaker 1: It still wasn't enough. And that makes me wonder what
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Speaker 1: the hell is happening with this offense.
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Speaker 2: So I'm not going to pretend to be a football
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Speaker 2: genius here, but just because the fans want something, we
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Speaker 2: got it. It doesn't mean that it's still good. The
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Speaker 2: play calling is not good. The play calling results one
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Speaker 2: of three things on every single play. One it's going
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Speaker 2: to be a screen. Two it's going to be a
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Speaker 2: d pass, or three it's going to be a run play.
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Speaker 2: That's it. That is the playbook that the Philadelphia Eagles have.
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Speaker 2: It is the exact same offense as two years ago
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Speaker 2: when Nick Siriani was working with his buddy in calling
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Speaker 2: the plays. Yep, this is a problem. I don't understand
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Speaker 2: how anyone can tell me This is not a Jalen
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Speaker 2: Hurts issue, right, I'm not going to die on the
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Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts hill or whatever. We don't have a Jalen
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Speaker 2: Hurts issue. We have a quarterback who's executing the plays
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Speaker 2: that are call Absolutely the problem is the play calling
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Speaker 2: is horrendous. I think there's another little aspect to it,
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Speaker 2: which we're going to get into a little bit later.
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Speaker 2: I really am very concerned about the play calling on
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Speaker 2: this team. I don't think it's very good. I think
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Speaker 2: it's very predictable, and I think that's why for every
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Speaker 2: single game this year, there has been an entire half
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Speaker 2: where the Eagles offense has just disappeared. Jeff, we are
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Speaker 2: at Week five. They have not played a sixty minute
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Speaker 2: football game at all, even forty five minutes. They have
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Speaker 2: not been able to play a forty five minute football game.
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Speaker 2: They've gotten away with it, they've been winning, but at
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Speaker 2: some point it's time to pay the piper. Now. The
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Speaker 2: Broncos have a good defense, right Like, I'm not going
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Speaker 2: to say they have a terrible defense, but the amount
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Speaker 2: of money that is invested in the offensive side of
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Speaker 2: the ball, I don't want to hear anything about the
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Speaker 2: defense blew this game.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, before we hopped on, the Philadelphia Eagles through
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Speaker 3: the one PM game have scored enough points to be
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Speaker 3: two teams and to tie with the Cleveland Browns from
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Speaker 3: this morning.
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Speaker 2: That's it. And there is no team in the NFL
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Speaker 2: that has invested more money at multiple positions on the
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Speaker 2: offensive side of the ball. It's inexcusable. The play calling
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Speaker 2: is hard.
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Speaker 1: So it comes down to the play calling here, and
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Speaker 1: you know, every week, that's what we are talking about, Josh.
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Speaker 1: That's what we've been talking about every week on this
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Speaker 1: postgame podcast, is the play calling. And yes, I did
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Speaker 1: want to also bring up the penalties, penalties that were
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Speaker 1: self inflicted wounds. That is a theme of this game.
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Speaker 1: Penalties that were not called during this game. And I'm
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Speaker 1: somebody who has gotten away from the whole penalty aspect
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Speaker 1: of games when you know, I mean thanks to me,
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Speaker 1: thanks to you, and quite frankly thanks to lend too.
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Speaker 1: He would tell me, Jeff, shut up with the penalties,
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Speaker 1: would you. After so after years of doing I was like, okay,
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Speaker 1: we'll get away from the penalties. But it does go
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Speaker 1: to show that that penalties that are not called can
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Speaker 1: influence the course of the course of a game, not
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Speaker 1: necessarily the outcome the course of the game. Now, what
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Speaker 1: what was part of the outcome of the game was
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Speaker 1: Zach Bond making a horrendous decision to come in right
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Speaker 1: at the end of the game and get that personal
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Speaker 1: foul penalty. It was that was horrendous and he knows
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Speaker 1: better than that, he really does. Undisciplined predictability is what
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Speaker 1: you said, and it comes down to coaching at the
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Speaker 1: end of the day. That's what it's about.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you know. So for me, Jeff, you know,
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Speaker 2: I've said it for I've probably done these for a
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Speaker 2: couple of years now on the postgame shows. I've said
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Speaker 2: officiating will never cost the game, and I stand by
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Speaker 2: that today. I'm sorry. The ego has had multiple opportunities.
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Speaker 2: There are bad calls every week. Guess what, Jeff, the
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Speaker 2: last four weeks there have been bad calls. Eagles have
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Speaker 2: won those games. So we can't say it costs them here,
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Speaker 2: but it doesn't cost them for four straight weeks. It
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Speaker 2: doesn't work that way. What I will say, there is
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Speaker 2: a very serious issue and this has been for weeks now,
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Speaker 2: and this has actually been during the next Sirianni tenure
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Speaker 2: and he is a Super Bowl winning coach, So I'm
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Speaker 2: not gonna go too hard in on this. They have
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Speaker 2: a discipline issue in the sense of cal Katara on
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Speaker 2: the first drive. I'm not even gonna talk about a penalty.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to talk about something else. That first in
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Speaker 2: completion from Jalen Hurts, I think it was his first
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Speaker 2: in completion. Cal Katerra stopped running on the route. It
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Speaker 2: wasn't a bad pass, it was a good pass. He
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Speaker 2: just decided to slow down on the route and then
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Speaker 2: was like, oh shoot, I gotta keep going undisciplined. How
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Speaker 2: many priests that penalties does this team have every week?
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Speaker 2: Every week? Saquon Barkley is a veteran of how many
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Speaker 2: years at this point, and he doesn't know how to
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Speaker 2: shift properly. How is this possible? And the reality is
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Speaker 2: with the offensive line, I don't know that we're going
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Speaker 2: to get the starters that we projected game one through
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Speaker 2: game seventeen to play a game together in its entirety,
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Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to happen. And the problem
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Speaker 2: is there are so many false starts, there are so
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Speaker 2: many ineligible players downfield. It's a mess. Absolutely, we don't
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Speaker 2: have a penalties problem. It's not officiating. The Eagles have
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Speaker 2: a penalties problem. It's not good even with yes, there
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Speaker 2: were bad calls today, but even with the one pass interference,
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Speaker 2: like on the radio they were saying before, it's not
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Speaker 2: pass interference because somebody was in the area. Do I
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Speaker 2: like the fact that the Broncos talked their way out
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Speaker 2: of a penalty, No, I don't. But the reality is
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Speaker 2: is that there was a receiver close enough that initially
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Speaker 2: even the Eagles this broadcast did not think that it
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Speaker 2: was a penalty. That's the reality. And you still had
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Speaker 2: third and six after that. What did you do after
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Speaker 2: that to prevent on a third and six? We're not
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Speaker 2: talking about third and one, third and six. You should
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Speaker 2: be able.
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Speaker 1: To stop that, absolutely, absolutely, Look, you make so many
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Speaker 1: great points here, you really do. And and the other
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Speaker 1: theme that I wanted to get into with regard to
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Speaker 1: the offense is this is the first game that we
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Speaker 1: have really seen Saquon Barkley making strides, making plays, whether
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Speaker 1: he is joking, whether he is real, whether he is
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Speaker 1: actually getting to the gaps that have been open for him.
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Speaker 1: He was getting to the holes and he was making plays.
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Speaker 1: In fact, he averaged five yards per carry, but he
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Speaker 1: had only thirty rushing yards in this game. They gave
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Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley the ball six times in this game. Josh
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Speaker 1: and I say to myself, Okay, you've got this weapon,
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Speaker 1: and you've won to get him going, because he was
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Speaker 1: coming into this game averaging three point one yards per
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Speaker 1: play or per carry. You actually have him with his
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Speaker 1: longest rush of the entire season, a seventeen yard play.
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Speaker 1: It was a toss left play in the first quarter.
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Speaker 1: It took Saquon Barkley from what the announcer said, seventy
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Speaker 1: nine plays for him to have that first explosive run
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Speaker 1: play of the season. And what did what did the
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Speaker 1: offensive coaching do? They said, Eh, We're just gonna give
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Speaker 1: you the ball six times this entire game. It goes
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Speaker 1: to what you're saying, the offensive coaching has been absolutely
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Speaker 1: horrendous through the first five weeks of this season. That
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Speaker 1: really has when you have Barkley, who who was in
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Speaker 1: that Whether it's a frame of mind, I don't necessarily
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Speaker 1: I think it's frame of mind, but whether he's at
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Speaker 1: that point now week five where he's ready to hit
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Speaker 1: these holes and the offensive line was opening up those
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Speaker 1: holes for him and you get away from it. That's horrible.
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Speaker 1: It's horrible coaching there, Josh, it really is. It was
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Speaker 1: really ticking me off throughout the game.
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Speaker 2: But Jeff, even more so, I don't believe correct me
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Speaker 2: if I'm wrong. I do not believe the Denver scored
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Speaker 2: out the first possession in the second half. I do
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Speaker 2: not know they did. So that means in the third quarter, right,
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Speaker 2: the third quarter, you have a two touchdown lead. Yes,
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Speaker 2: you have Sae Kwon Barkley, who, to your point, is
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Speaker 2: averaging over five yards of carry. Why in the world
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Speaker 2: are you calling screen passes where you have the opportunity
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Speaker 2: to have ineligible receivers downfield based off of RPOs. Why
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Speaker 2: in the world are you doing that run the ball like?
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Speaker 2: I don't I don't understand why this is this crazy thing.
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Speaker 2: Like if you look at her statline throwing thirty eight times,
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Speaker 2: you're going, well, surely they were trading trailing the whole game. Oh,
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Speaker 2: they were trailing the last basically two minutes of the game. Yep,
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Speaker 2: and he had thirty eight pass attempts. The guy, I'm
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Speaker 2: not a huge run the ball guy, but I when
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Speaker 2: you look at games sometimes sometimes you have to take
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Speaker 2: to advantage. And you and I were texting about this.
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Speaker 2: They bombed the ball down the field. Do you know
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Speaker 2: what that should do? Open things up for Saquon Barkley.
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Speaker 2: You had set the stage perfectly, yes, to be able
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Speaker 2: to do a run controlled clock and run out the clock.
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Speaker 2: There was no need to try to get fancy.
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Speaker 1: And we're not football experts here, like you said, we're
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Speaker 1: not coaches. We've never been coaching. We've been watching football
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Speaker 1: a lot in our lives. But we know this. We
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Speaker 1: know this.
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Speaker 2: I'm not anti screen passes. I thought that last week.
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Speaker 2: The ones to Goddard were very creative and great. The
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Speaker 2: problem is they're going back to Vanilla. We're gonna throw
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Speaker 2: it out to Smith and we're gonna see what happens. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: over and over again. And it's like, I get getting
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Speaker 2: them the ball, but why don't you give them a
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Speaker 2: little forward momentum because it's just not doing much.
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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I mean I think this game, at the
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Speaker 1: end of the day, was just bound to happen. From
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Speaker 1: what we saw the first four weeks of the season,
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Speaker 1: this was bound to happen. This team desperately, desperately needs
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Speaker 1: to go back to some sort of drawing board that
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Speaker 1: they have. Kevin Patulo needs to go back to something,
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Speaker 1: or Nick Siriani needs to provide some sort of offensive
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Speaker 1: leadership before this short week when they do have a
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Speaker 1: New York Giants team, a Giants team that's not all
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Speaker 1: that great, but anything is possible in this league. Anything
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Speaker 1: is possible. And I will say, you know, I do
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Speaker 1: give credit to the defense, and they were out on
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Speaker 1: the field for way too long during the fourth quarter
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Speaker 1: when Denver was able to put up eighteen total points.
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Speaker 1: But I will say this about the defense as another theme,
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Speaker 1: two sacks in this game. Eight quarterback hits five tackles
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Speaker 1: for a loss, but the two sacks, it just goes
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Speaker 1: to show that even though I thought this was the
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Speaker 1: defense is probably their best game of the season in
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Speaker 1: terms of the pass rush. They're not getting home. They're
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Speaker 1: not getting the sacks that they need to. How many
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Speaker 1: times should bow Nicks have probably been sacked, probably five
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Speaker 1: or six times. They are just not getting home. I
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Speaker 1: think at this point in the season as a team,
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Speaker 1: they have seven total sacks. I believe folks put in
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Speaker 1: the comments if you're watching on YouTube or shoot us
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Speaker 1: off an email about whether or not it's not seven saved,
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Speaker 1: but I think it's seven total sacks on the season
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Speaker 1: after five weeks of play. That's a problem.
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Speaker 2: Josh, Yeah, I mean I agree. But at the same time,
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Speaker 2: how much did they lose on defense last year the
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Speaker 2: free agency. Think I'm gonna quick go back to something
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Speaker 2: that you just said. I don't know that Patullo and
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Speaker 2: Nick can go back and figure things out. The most
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Speaker 2: explosive offense was last year's when Nick didn't have anything
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Speaker 2: to do with the defense. The worst offense that we've
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Speaker 2: seen was two years ago when Nick decided to get
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Speaker 2: more involved. I think Nick is a great head coach, right,
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Speaker 2: but I think at this point we have enough data
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Speaker 2: that shows maybe he's not the best at play calling
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Speaker 2: and drawing up plays, and that's okay. I would rather
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Speaker 2: have a great head coach who can delegate to other
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Speaker 2: areas with really good people. I have a really hard
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Speaker 2: time blaming the offense or the defense when the offense
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Speaker 2: is making three times as much money and has all
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Speaker 2: of these big contracts invested in it. The defense is
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Speaker 2: comprised of people that are either rookies or on rookie
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Speaker 2: deals because they spent so much money on the other
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Speaker 2: side of the ball, I applaud Vic Fangio for even
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Speaker 2: being able to have the defense at mediocrity and they're
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Speaker 2: well above that.
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Speaker 1: Like, it's a great point.
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Speaker 2: Is I trust Fangio to be able to go and
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Speaker 2: make changes because he's seen that. But do I love
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Speaker 2: the past rush? Not necessarily, But I think some teams
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Speaker 2: may just be adjusting to Vic Fangio and he's got
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Speaker 2: to just and I trust him to do that. The
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Speaker 2: offense I do not.
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Speaker 1: All right, buddy, do you have any other themes here?
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Speaker 1: Before we go to a quick break and then we'll
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Speaker 1: get back and then we'll do the grades. Do you
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Speaker 1: have any other themes?
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Speaker 2: Philadelphia sports is pain. That's my main pain.
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Speaker 1: It's so true, it really is. It's painful, folks, painful
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Speaker 1: Philadelphia Phillies, Philadelphia Eagles. My goodness. Well, we got the
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Speaker 1: Flyers coming up. Let's see what happens with them. We
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Speaker 1: got our Flyer season preview coming this week. Yes, Josh
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Speaker 1: So with that being said, here we're gonna take a break.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna pay some bills. When we get back, we're
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Speaker 1: gonna get into the grades. We're gonna grade each unit,
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Speaker 1: and the coaching stick with us. All right, we are
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Speaker 1: back with our good buddy Josh Schuster from Philadelphia soccernow
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Speaker 1: dot com, and let's grade this Philadelphia Eagles team by
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Speaker 1: unit and then the coaches. Jalen Hurts this week, I'm
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Speaker 1: actually gonna give him. I'm gonna give him an a minus.
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Speaker 1: I think he and it goes to what you were
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Speaker 1: saying earlier. It could be a B plus, but I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna give him an a minus. I believe he was
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Speaker 1: asked to do certain things in this game, and he
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Speaker 1: did them. You know, not perfect by any stretch. That's
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Speaker 1: where minus comes from. But a minus. You do look
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Speaker 1: at the stats and It's twenty three to thirty eight,
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Speaker 1: two hundred and eighty yards, seven point four yards per attempt,
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Speaker 1: two touchdowns, and he ended with a rating of one
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Speaker 1: hundred point eight. That's what you want from your quarterback
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Speaker 1: in a lot of ways from week to week. And
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Speaker 1: he was asked to do what he was asked to
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Speaker 1: do this week, so and he did it. So I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna give him a minus. What do you give Hurts?
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna give him an A. I'm gonna give him
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Speaker 2: a notch bubb. I guess even the last throw of
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Speaker 2: the game, right, like the Hail Mary that he throws,
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Speaker 2: you have three Eagles wide receivers right there and they
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Speaker 2: couldn't make play. I'm not to me. This game is
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Speaker 2: not on Jalen Hurts. And I think that if you
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Speaker 2: are trying to blame him, I really question your football knowledge.
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Speaker 2: I think he's really just doing I think he's handcuffed
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Speaker 2: by the play calling. We don't even see him scrambling
19:47
Speaker 2: much anymore.
19:47
Speaker 1: We don't.
19:48
Speaker 2: We don't other than those predictable QB draws. I mean,
19:52
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe they don't trust him. I don't know.
19:55
Speaker 2: I'm not going beyond that speculation. In terms of this grade,
19:58
Speaker 2: he gets an A. He was doing what he was told.
20:01
Speaker 1: It's bizarre when you look at the rushing in the
20:04
Speaker 1: box score. Jalen Hurts only had two for three yards.
20:08
Speaker 1: He was his legs were nowhere to be found today.
20:11
Speaker 1: Very good, very good point. So let's move to the
20:13
Speaker 1: running backs. Saquon Barkley, as I mentioned earlier, six carries
20:17
Speaker 1: for thirty yards. He averaged five yards per carry. Yeah.
20:20
Speaker 1: They brought in aj Dillon two carries on the day
20:23
Speaker 1: for twelve yards. He averaged six yards per carry. Will
20:26
Speaker 1: Shipley only had one carry and he did not get
20:29
Speaker 1: any yards on that. I mean, I gotta say that
20:32
Speaker 1: the running backs did what they needed to do as well. Again,
20:36
Speaker 1: came down to play call. I mean I give that.
20:38
Speaker 1: I give him an a minus. What do you give him?
20:41
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm going to give him an a minus
20:44
Speaker 2: simply because I had to watch Will Shipley for years
20:47
Speaker 2: kill me as a South Carolina fan when he was Yes,
20:51
Speaker 2: I still I'm very bitter about that. So the fact
20:53
Speaker 2: that he had to carry and got nothing the whole
20:55
Speaker 2: running back room gets an a minus for me. But yeah,
20:58
Speaker 2: I mean they did what they were asked to do
21:02
Speaker 2: and did it well, and I just don't understand the
21:05
Speaker 2: play calling.
21:06
Speaker 1: Yep, yep. Well, let's move over to the wide receivers
21:09
Speaker 1: here again. As I mentioned before the break, Davonte Smith
21:12
Speaker 1: was targeted ten times, came down with eight balls for
21:14
Speaker 1: one hundred and fourteen yards. Sakwan Barkley was targeted three times,
21:18
Speaker 1: caught all those balls for fifty eight yards. We certainly
21:21
Speaker 1: were excited when we saw that forty seven yard wheel route.
21:25
Speaker 1: Basically it turned into a touchdown. He averaged nineteen point
21:29
Speaker 1: three yards per reception, mainly because of that. Aj Brown
21:33
Speaker 1: was targeted eight times, came down with five balls for
21:35
Speaker 1: forty three yards. And then you got Johan Dottson being
21:38
Speaker 1: targeted three times for and he only came down one
21:41
Speaker 1: ball for twenty four yards. But look at this, Dallas Goddard,
21:44
Speaker 1: a lot of dunkin and duncan to Dallas Goddard nine
21:47
Speaker 1: targets today, came down with three balls for nineteen yards,
21:51
Speaker 1: got it. Averaged six point three yards per reception and
21:54
Speaker 1: one touchdown. Grant Calcatara had two targets. Will Shipley had
21:58
Speaker 1: two targets. Not too much else to mention about those
22:01
Speaker 1: two guys, but the wide receivers this week. I'm going
22:04
Speaker 1: to give them a B plus. There were certain aspects,
22:07
Speaker 1: whether it was Aj Brown kind of slowing down on
22:10
Speaker 1: that route you mentioned gran Cal Katara slowing down on
22:13
Speaker 1: that route that he had in the first quarter. I
22:16
Speaker 1: think the wide receivers could have gotten a little bit
22:18
Speaker 1: more separation perhaps for Jalen to get him the ball
22:21
Speaker 1: in certain critical times during the game, and they didn't
22:24
Speaker 1: get it done. I'm gonna give him a B plus.
22:26
Speaker 1: What do you give the wide receivers.
22:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, about the same, except for one thing. This grade
22:30
Speaker 2: will slide up to an A if I get another
22:33
Speaker 2: cryptic social media post from Aj Brown. I need a
22:37
Speaker 2: distraction from pain right now. I need some philosopher's quote
22:43
Speaker 2: or something like that, where you know sports talk can
22:45
Speaker 2: run wild or sorry, I guess four days because they
22:49
Speaker 2: play on Thursday.
22:50
Speaker 1: Yes, all right, sounds good, but all right? Offensive line,
22:56
Speaker 1: oh yo YOI I mean it was kind of all
22:59
Speaker 1: over the place. It was certainly not not what we saw.
23:01
Speaker 1: I mean when Landon Dickerson went out, Man, he is
23:04
Speaker 1: so important to this line.
23:05
Speaker 2: He really is, but he's not when he's not healthy.
23:08
Speaker 1: That is true.
23:09
Speaker 2: That absolutely is not healthy. Right now and has not
23:12
Speaker 2: been and is having a very bad season.
23:14
Speaker 1: Yep, Jordan Mylotta was getting beat up today too. I
23:17
Speaker 1: mean his those defensive ends were getting into the backfield,
23:20
Speaker 1: he was. He was having a tough game as well.
23:22
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give the offensive line this week a se. Actually,
23:25
Speaker 1: what do you give him?
23:27
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think part of the reason, Jeff, why are
23:30
Speaker 2: grade is a CE is because we've seen such great
23:33
Speaker 2: offensive play offensive line play for years. Probably if if
23:39
Speaker 2: you ask like Giants fans about the Eagles performance, they
23:43
Speaker 2: probably be like, yeah, a minus from the offensive line. Hey,
23:46
Speaker 2: you get sacked every play, but yeah, I would say
23:49
Speaker 2: by Eagles standard, We'll go with the sea.
23:51
Speaker 1: Okay, Like I said, six sacks on Jalen Hurts today,
23:55
Speaker 1: get getting a little tired of this.
23:57
Speaker 2: Some of them he did run into like to be
23:59
Speaker 2: fairy true. Very yes, So I think c is fair.
24:02
Speaker 1: Okay, Let's move over to the defensive side of the ball.
24:07
Speaker 1: The defensive line. Like I mentioned earlier, I think this defense,
24:10
Speaker 1: defensive front in general, had the best their best game
24:14
Speaker 1: of the season. Just are not able to get home
24:17
Speaker 1: two sacks on the day, eight quarterback hits. I'm gonna
24:21
Speaker 1: give the I'm gonna give the the defensive line. I'm
24:25
Speaker 1: gonna give them a B plus this week. What do
24:26
Speaker 1: you give them?
24:28
Speaker 2: I'm actually gonna give him a C minus because one
24:30
Speaker 2: of the sacks came from the linebackers, yes, so I
24:33
Speaker 2: can't really attribute that to the defensive line, so I
24:37
Speaker 2: would say C minus. And if they can start turning
24:41
Speaker 2: some of these pressures into sacks, yeah, things things will
24:44
Speaker 2: turn around and I'll give them a higher grade, but
24:46
Speaker 2: C minus.
24:47
Speaker 1: You know what, I'm going down to a B simply
24:49
Speaker 1: because I'm remembering now how Jalen Carter fell for that
24:53
Speaker 1: trick fourth down play in the first quarter that gave
24:56
Speaker 1: the Broncos the first down where he jumped off sides.
24:58
Speaker 1: That's just a lack of discipline. I'm actually going down
25:01
Speaker 1: to a B just because of that right there. It
25:03
Speaker 1: goes to what we're talking about, like a lack of
25:05
Speaker 1: discipline sometimes with this team every now and again. You know,
25:08
Speaker 1: he didn't spit on anybody, thankfully in this game, but
25:11
Speaker 1: still there's lack of discipline, you know, yep, all right,
25:15
Speaker 1: the linebackers in this game, I'm gonna give them a
25:18
Speaker 1: B plus. Overall, it probably would have been an a.
25:20
Speaker 1: What was Zach Bond and his crappy decision making at
25:24
Speaker 1: the end of the game. That that's going down for
25:26
Speaker 1: me because it really did. It really did hurt the
25:28
Speaker 1: team in in you know, rate rate in a spot
25:32
Speaker 1: where they didn't need that. So I'm gonna I'm gonna
25:34
Speaker 1: give him a B plus. What do you give them?
25:37
Speaker 2: I think B plus is fair And I think part
25:38
Speaker 2: of this grade is based off of, again the linebacker
25:41
Speaker 2: play that we've seen for so many years here in
25:43
Speaker 2: Philadelphia that's been an atrocity. I mean, if you you
25:46
Speaker 2: look at the last two drives of the Broncos, I
25:49
Speaker 2: mean they have players just wide open in the middle
25:51
Speaker 2: of the field. Yeah, the linebackers really struggled in the
25:55
Speaker 2: second half with coverage, But overall, I would say B plus,
25:59
Speaker 2: but I lean towards that grade being that way because
26:02
Speaker 2: of previous linebacker play.
26:04
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, Courtland Sutton. As we move over to the
26:09
Speaker 1: secondary and grading the secondary, Courtland Sutton really had himself
26:12
Speaker 1: a day of ninety nine yards on ten targets, the
26:15
Speaker 1: average twelve point four yards per reception. You say, okay,
26:20
Speaker 1: you know he didn't even hit one hundred yards, but
26:22
Speaker 1: he was really eating in the fourth quarter. Get he
26:25
Speaker 1: was it was he was getting the best of Quinnon
26:27
Speaker 1: Mitchell every now and again, and Quinnon was doing such
26:31
Speaker 1: a fantastic job with him all game. But it gets
26:34
Speaker 1: to the point where your defense is tired. They're out
26:36
Speaker 1: on the field because your offense can't do anything. I
26:39
Speaker 1: think the secondary in general, while they didn't have the
26:42
Speaker 1: greatest game in the world, I thought they stepped up
26:45
Speaker 1: in big moments as well. I'm actually gonna give the
26:48
Speaker 1: secondary a B plus this week. What do you give them?
26:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna give him C plus three plus. Okay,
26:54
Speaker 2: my grade is mostly based on Quintanamo Bay. To me
26:59
Speaker 2: when on that third and six play, I'm sorry you're
27:02
Speaker 2: playing up on him. You I think you are a
27:05
Speaker 2: better player than Courtland Sudon. You need to make a
27:07
Speaker 2: play man like I I keep hearing top corner, great corner,
27:12
Speaker 2: elite corner, elite corners make that play. He didn't, And
27:16
Speaker 2: so for me, I mean, I've been I think we
27:18
Speaker 2: both can agree. I have been pretty easy going on
27:21
Speaker 2: the defense here. But for me, they had the chance
27:24
Speaker 2: after a bad call to be able to make a
27:26
Speaker 2: play and Quentin Mitchell didn't. So you know what, you're
27:30
Speaker 2: gonna get I'll say.
27:31
Speaker 1: C minus, okay, C minus all right? Yeah, wow, I
27:35
Speaker 1: was at a BP.
27:35
Speaker 2: I was getting more angry as I talk about it.
27:37
Speaker 1: You really are, I can tell, Oh my gosh, I
27:39
Speaker 1: can tell all right, we got to get to special
27:41
Speaker 1: teams now, because I'll tell you right now. You know
27:44
Speaker 1: we've seen some great stuff from special teams this year.
27:47
Speaker 1: And look, I enjoyed watching h Johan Dotson's punt return
27:51
Speaker 1: towards the end of the third quarter put the Eagles
27:53
Speaker 1: in really good field position. But you know that they
27:56
Speaker 1: blew that. They ended up pla. I was just gonna say, yeah,
27:58
Speaker 1: they completely wandered that. Braden Man averaged fifty I'm sorry,
28:03
Speaker 1: fifty one point three yards per punt two touchbacks, which
28:08
Speaker 1: really did stink. Jake Elliott had a fine day at
28:12
Speaker 1: one field goal of thirty one yards, made both of
28:14
Speaker 1: his extra points, and not much really to write home
28:19
Speaker 1: about in terms of the kick returns. Yes, Will Shipley
28:21
Speaker 1: did have a thirty seven yard or but still special
28:24
Speaker 1: team's pretty average this week. So I'm just gonna give
28:27
Speaker 1: him a straight up B. What do you give him?
28:30
Speaker 2: Well, they didn't score any points, so obviously it's an
28:32
Speaker 2: F after the last couple of weeks. Now, I would
28:35
Speaker 2: say I'd give him a bee. I think they did good.
28:38
Speaker 2: I think there were great I think there were some
28:40
Speaker 2: really great returns, some got taken back by holding the one.
28:43
Speaker 2: The offense just completely blew considering especially what we were
28:47
Speaker 2: looking at from Was it last week or the week
28:50
Speaker 2: before where they couldn't even field a kickoff or a punt?
28:54
Speaker 1: Yes, it was right after they got Tank Bigsby too,
28:56
Speaker 1: and Tank Bigsby was like, I've never held a football
28:58
Speaker 1: before all.
29:01
Speaker 2: I wish you could see Jeff's Jess respond.
29:04
Speaker 1: You watch on YouTube. You can, folks.
29:06
Speaker 2: There you go, I'll plug for YouTube. Yeah, I would
29:10
Speaker 2: say B. I mean, I really think that the special
29:13
Speaker 2: teams did really the best they can and I don't
29:15
Speaker 2: think it's fair to expect a block field goal kick
29:19
Speaker 2: return all this craziness that has happened this year for them.
29:23
Speaker 1: So all right, Vic Fangio his coaching this week, I'm
29:27
Speaker 1: going to give him a straight up B. What do
29:30
Speaker 1: you give Vic Fangio this week?
29:32
Speaker 2: I'm going to give him an a minus? Like if
29:34
Speaker 2: he if you in twenty twenty five, if you hold
29:37
Speaker 2: a team and I saw people calling Bonicks trash on Twitter.
29:42
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, he's he He is an NFL quarterback who's
29:46
Speaker 2: probably gonna have a pretty good career if you can
29:49
Speaker 2: hold Bonnicks to twenty one points in twenty twenty five. Yeah, sorry,
29:56
Speaker 2: I'm going to give him an a minus.
29:57
Speaker 1: Look, bon Knicks almost threw forty pounds. He was twenty
30:01
Speaker 1: four of thirty nine, two hundred and forty two yards,
30:04
Speaker 1: He averaged six point two yards per attempt, and he
30:07
Speaker 1: had a touchdown. He ended with a rating of eighty
30:09
Speaker 1: seven point eight. Yeah. If you look at the quarterback
30:12
Speaker 1: duel here, Jalen Hurts is the winner of that quarterback duel.
30:16
Speaker 1: But bo Nixon is what's second year here? Not bad
30:20
Speaker 1: that those are not bad numbers, and it's not bad
30:22
Speaker 1: what he did with this team. He was able to deliver.
30:26
Speaker 1: He was able to deliver the offensive vision that the
30:29
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos had more than the Eagles offense was able
30:32
Speaker 1: to deliver whatever quote vision that the Eagles offensive coordinators had.
30:37
Speaker 1: So I give him credit.
30:39
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna give also give Vic a pass on
30:43
Speaker 2: the final three points. Yeah, like really, they held the
30:46
Speaker 2: Broncos to eighteen points, They held them less than twenty
30:49
Speaker 2: points and the offense could not do anything, so they
30:53
Speaker 2: got the ball back they got Sorry, it really is
30:56
Speaker 2: eighteen points. I'm not too upset, and.
30:58
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give the offensive coaching this week, the offensive
31:01
Speaker 1: coaching of Nick Sirianni and Kevin Patulo, they're gonna get
31:05
Speaker 1: a D from me. I think that's absolutely the right
31:09
Speaker 1: grade because, look, there were some good things we saw,
31:13
Speaker 1: but again, you know, go back to the top of
31:16
Speaker 1: what we were talking about. They just weren't able. It's
31:20
Speaker 1: just predictable. You get a D when you're a predictable offense.
31:23
Speaker 1: You just do so you lose, yes, and you lose.
31:26
Speaker 1: What do you give them? What grade?
31:28
Speaker 2: No, I give him a D?
31:29
Speaker 1: Give me D.
31:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that we started off like B plus level.
31:34
Speaker 2: In the second half it was an AS I mean
31:36
Speaker 2: it was it was an F. So I'll I'll give
31:38
Speaker 2: him a D. And I feel like that's pretty generous
31:41
Speaker 2: considering how predictable everything tell you.
31:44
Speaker 1: These tail of two halves here every week. It's really
31:47
Speaker 1: enraging and the fact that this team is four and one.
31:51
Speaker 2: It's the offense. It's really the offense just cannot even
31:55
Speaker 2: play forty five minutes like I just don't get it.
31:59
Speaker 1: Ah, I know again the Philadelphia Union are our saviors
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32:23
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32:28
Speaker 1: this Thursday night.
32:29
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32:34
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32:36
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32:38
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Speaker 2: free to check that out and learn a little bit
33:00
Speaker 2: more about the team. But the last twenty four hours,
33:05
Speaker 2: as as a parent of eight year old who is
33:09
Speaker 2: really getting into Philly sports, I now after having to
33:15
Speaker 2: tell him this morning when he went to bed that
33:17
Speaker 2: the Phillies were up three to nothing when he went
33:20
Speaker 2: to bed that they lost this morning, and watched his
33:22
Speaker 2: heart be completely crushed, brutal, and then dropping him off
33:27
Speaker 2: at home before coming back here for some meetings and stuff,
33:30
Speaker 2: and the Eagles were winning. And now I get to
33:33
Speaker 2: go back home and tell him no, they lost, and
33:35
Speaker 2: see my crushed eight year old's face again. It's the worst.
33:39
Speaker 1: It's brutal.
33:40
Speaker 2: Great, and I can't wait. Eagles come on.
33:46
Speaker 1: Week five or Week six against the New York Giants.
33:49
Speaker 1: We're hoping for different results, folks, and we're certainly going
33:52
Speaker 1: to have our Eagles postgame podcast show after that game
33:55
Speaker 1: as well. He is Josh Houst again from Philadelphia Soccer
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Speaker 1: Eagles losing Week five here the twenty twenty five twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty six season two the Denver Broncos at the Link
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Speaker 1: by a score of twenty one to seventeen. That's gonna
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Speaker 1: do it for us, everybody. We will catch you next time.
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