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#176 - Dan Savage & Ryan Downey of Drift Nirvana · After-Hours with Faction! Motorsports

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  What's? Going on, everybody, welcome
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  back to another episode of the After Hours podcast.
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  And on today's episode, we have Dan Savage and Ryan Downey of
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  Drift Nirvana. These guys drove all the way up
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  here from Virginia to just hang out with us and bullshit for
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  three hours. And I can't thank them enough
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  for doing that because it is. It's a long trip.
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  And yeah, it's it just kind of blows my mind when people offer
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  to do this for us. We had a great conversation
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  here. We talked a lot about 100
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  Drifters of December, which has been a long standing drift event
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  on the East Coast ever since I got into drifting.
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  That was that was an event and I believe it was going on even in
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  the mid 2000s to late 2000s. We we dive into all that stuff.
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  We talk about Summit Point and we talk about Dan's long history
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  with drifting. He was drifting before I got
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  into it and he was one of the drivers that I would see at the
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  track that had, I mean, at that time he had a, he had a 240SX
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  that they converted into a truck.
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  And that was like the coolest thing to me.
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  I don't know why, but I, it still blows my mind that that's
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  a thing that you can do. So we get into that.
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  Our friend Ryan, who's also on the podcast, he's always coming
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  up here hanging out with us. He stopped by the other day.
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  His wife works in the area sometimes.
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  So he's, he's been here before. He's an awesome guy as well.
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  I'm glad Ryan made the trip up here a few months ago and and
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  met us and offered to do this podcast.
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  Well, thank you guys for coming. Welcome everybody to the Faction
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  After Hours podcast. We're here to bring you another
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  episode tonight. We have two guests from very far
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  away. Thank you guys for coming.
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  Yes, we have Dan Savage and Ryan Downey of Drift Nirvana.
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  That was good, dude. Maybe we should keep editing?
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  News all the time. Yeah, that's live audience.
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  You're. Even going even longer than
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  Tific than usual. Well, thank you guys so much for
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  coming. We were just talking about
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  Summit Point, yeah. We're going to have to bring up
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  a map because you never really, never really.
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  I never drove there. You.
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  Never have, but I try to tell people it's pretty much the
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  closest thing to Avisu that you can get.
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  In the state that. It's fucking massive.
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  You've heard that? Yeah.
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  It's awesome. So you guys run like a really
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  good program there? No, so there's I've been going
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  there for 20 years and Drift Ivana started before I even got
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  there. So our events were so or the,
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  the owner at the time saw drifting as this new hot shit,
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  but there was so little going on.
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  They said he started Drift Ivana and it had to be coincided with
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  like the other racers that didn't have a full event either.
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  So we would race for an hour or they would race for an hour and
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  we would go for an hour. So we switched off until we had
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  enough drivers that we could have like our own days.
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  So I mean that what? Year.
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  Was that about? That had to been like at least
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  04. Holy.
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  Wow. Yeah, so it was like right when
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  drifting started. That might be like the earliest
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  one so far we've had on the pod because usually they're like 08.
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  Like who, who, whatever. Like people on the West Coast
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  have said like 08/06. Club Loose was around the same
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  time or a little later. Someone could Fact Check that,
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  but it's very close. But definitely give them all
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  their credit because I've driven there and I started there, I
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  think at 07. I did on the parking lots, just
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  like I think one of the layouts you were just talking about
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  where you're like almost going towards the gate, like the
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  parking lot side, but like at the end of the grandstands.
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  Yeah, you. Probably did like a a night
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  moves event or something on a Wednesday.
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  Four. It was.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, the Wednesday drift, that
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  was, that was like. That was the best shit.
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  The the No, that's not Friday Night Drift Party.
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  That was night moves. It would just be night moves,
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  yeah. Night moves, that was.
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  But the parking lot was crazy. It was like it was a it was like
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  Iraq. There was just holes everywhere
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  like you had to dodge. You had to be good at dodging
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  them. And I remember, I remember Vosco
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  the most as far as like the person that was the best because
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  he had such a big turbo and he had like all the wheels food in
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  the world. He'd like to school anybody
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  because he just had smoke and no one had smoke in like 2007.
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  That was the first Club Loose event I ever did in my life, was
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  a Night Moves event, and it was just like, it was cool just
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  driving just straight out there and just you didn't know what
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  the fuck you were doing. It was fun, man.
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  I don't know. I wish I'd bring that back, but
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  I guess those cars are parked there now, right?
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  Also like we got to start going and supporting E town a little
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  bit, man. We got to go there, yeah.
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  What's going on? It's not anything.
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  I mean, I talked to Chris, it wasn't it's not anything crazy
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  because I I saw everything last night and I was like, his
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  phone's by blowing up. But let me just ask him anyway.
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  I was like, yo, so I was like, yeah, I know your phone's
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  blowing up, but you want to let me know what's going on?
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  And he's like, he's like, that whole thing kind of already blew
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  over, but we couldn't. Basically they were having, they
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  were in conversation with the town.
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  Town's always trying to shut Raceway Park down.
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  So something was going on. They were trying to get, they
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  were trying to do what they usually do is push them out.
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  And while that was happening, they had to tell Formula Drift
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  if they were going to be able to do next year.
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  So they were like, well, we can't confirm it, so they just
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  had to go with another track. That's what I heard, so I'm
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  going with that. So it made me feel a little bit
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  better. I was like, OK, so I don't think
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  anything's happening right this moment.
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  Dude, I haven't done a lot of things yet.
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  My car doesn't have a cage. I'm not a group.
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  I haven't tandem on road course. I got to do some stuff.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm running out of time running.
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  Out of time man. And you said 20 years with both
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  of you 20 years running you 2? I started driving in 2000.
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  Yeah, bring the mic to see you. 2000 I think 8 Dan came into my
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  shop. I had a Datsun shop and Dan came
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  in one day and he was like you should go drifting.
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  So 31 I blame I blame Dan for everything.
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  So you guys been friends for a long time?
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  Yeah. Wow, okay.
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  If we think about it, it's not like I have to be friend with
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  you another year. Dude, the years fly by like you
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  don't even. Yeah, trust me, I know.
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  People are like, I mean, we've got families like two kids.
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  He's got three kids. It's like, go have your kids,
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  drifting's still going to be here.
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  Like don't worry about missing a couple events, it'll be fine.
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  Yeah, unless you town evaporates, then that would be.
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  Really. Then you come to Summit.
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  Yeah, then we'll be doing 6. We don't want.
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  That cost, yeah. Yeah, we wouldn't want that, but
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  we should still go to Summit, dude.
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  Yeah, No one's taking Summit away anytime soon, right?
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  No. You know.
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  We should go to plan next. Year.
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  OK, Frankie has AZ now. It would be.
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  Perfect. We were just talking about this.
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  We were thinking maybe Drifters of December.
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  I was saying thinking that too. Me and you.
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  Dude, yo, Phil is selling A2 car Taylor, you know what I'm
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  saying? OK, just to get there.
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  Yeah, I don't know about driving to there, but.
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  I want to go fat the the thing that is.
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  I don't want to go fast in that car.
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  No. Yes you should.
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  I'm so scared pussy. I drove it one time.
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  But there was twice. True, I did.
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  There is like for me when the glamour factor or like the sick
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  whoa factor when you go to Summit is dude, it is a I'm not
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  saying Raceway Park isn't a facility that is a facility as
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  well. Just it's in a different class
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  of its own. Summit.
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  Yeah dude, all of the service vehicles, they're Toyota like
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  Hilux is, Hilux is. Wow, how fucking sick is that
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  the. Department that stuff, so you're
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  not supposed to know they're training on.
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  Oh, this is Summit. Well, I just like the owner and
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  the people, the the like staff, they're always driving around.
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  This is. Summit's biggest fan right here,
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  if you couldn't tell. Like every time you come back
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  from that track, it's like. And they're really nice.
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  Like one time our timing belt snapped or no, it didn't snap on
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  the coy. It like fell off or something.
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  And we had to like work on it. We were the last people there.
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  It was Drifters of December. The person when someone came
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  over and was like, are you guys all right?
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  I'll keep the gate open. Just roll out of there.
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  And when you roll out, somebody will close it when you're done.
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  Like it was, you could have easily told us like, yeah, you
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  got 10 minutes. When somebody tells you you got
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  10 minutes to finish a job, it is the worst.
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  Thing. Ever.
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  So that was a Sunday. Or.
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  That was the last day, Yeah. Almost packing up Sunday that.
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  Was actually the first time I met you.
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  I was like why is this dude working on his truck?
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  Oh my gosh, yeah. And I couldn't.
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  Stop timing belts off. I'm like, oh boy, this is
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  exciting. It was horrible and it was so
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  cold. I told Daryl he could drift
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  because I went there to support a friend.
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  He could drift and I'll work on the truck.
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  And then when he was done drifting, he was still working
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  on the truck. You went there to do a timing
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  belt job. No, like, we pulled in.
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  We pulled in pretty much. We pulled in.
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  The tensioner popped off. Oh, shit.
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  And then a Ford. Oh, no, a Subaru.
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  One of the media guys, he drives like an orange.
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  At the time was brand new Subaru, Yeah.
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  That's Max maybe. Yeah, that does all the nappy
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  boy stuff and then drifts Appalachia.
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  He was like, I will pull you guys in trailer with A with that
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  C on the back into the track to Washington and just that's where
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  it's at. It was just, but absolutely
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  different class of its own. When you go there, it is a
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  massive track. And then when you're on track
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  you're like, holy shit, I am a race car driver, right?
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  Now, yeah, that does have those vibes.
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  It's like like there's no standing burnouts because like
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  that's going to make a divot. But like there's some rules.
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  People are like, oh, there's too many rules.
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  Like it's a fucking real race track.
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  It's like it's. A real real.
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  Track like it's an active track any other time.
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  We're not fucking spinning wheeled out here.
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  Yeah, I mean, we're used to Raceway Park, so the rules
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  probably won't bother us that much.
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  They're strict out Raceway, but they're stricter.
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  Yeah. I mean, you guys, you still need
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  cages to tandem and stuff like that.
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  So it's yeah. It's it's, it's tough, dude, but
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  those tracks are fun. Even solo they're fucking and.
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  This we run, we've gotten to the point we run it so fluidly with
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  we're a small part of the Drift and Rana team, the core that
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  will push it on socials or answer the questions on the DMS
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  and stuff like that. But the the way Drift and Rana
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  works, Summit organizes it logistically for having staff,
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  for having EMS, for having recovery and stuff like that.
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  We get to show up to the drivers meeting, give advice to people
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  that are about to go through tech like hey, check this out
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  like before you go get tacked, the track's going to turn you
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  down. Not me, but check this out in
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  your car. I saw this when I was walking
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  by. Like, you have to like, I
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  acknowledge that I'm not just going to be a Dick to you.
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  I'm going to be a nice Dick, not a nicer Dick than that Dick over
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  there. So, like, there are rules, but
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  it's it's not like absolutely cutthroat.
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  They're going to most likely let you on track.
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  Your crack through your vision isn't advisable.
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  But if it was on the passenger side, that'd be better.
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  Yeah. But so many people, like are
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  deterred by the rules. There is basic rules there's
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  like have a hood. Well, you guys are.
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  I mean, you guys are. The bar is not that hot.
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  Yeah, it's. An argument.
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  Well, you guys, you guys are more in an area where the other
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  tracks don't really have rules, right?
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  I hate them in an area where the our main track does have rules,
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  so when we go to another track with rules it's kind of like.
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  Damn, but I never thought about it like that.
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  Yeah, there's. Yeah.
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  Are you trying to think? Well, yeah, because.
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  This area, it's like there's less and less fucking rules
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  everywhere. And so you get to like a really
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  nice. Dude, I mentioned that I'm going
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  to be making a trip down there, but not to that Shenandoah.
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  The other Shenandoah Speedway, the Oval truck we rented every
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  year. There's like no rules there.
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  There's. It's the Wild West.
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  It's the Wild West if you let it.
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  Yeah, like so. You you pretty much have to
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  make. Daryl is making it a point that
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  there will be rules we will be checking to make sure that your
• 16:54
  car isn't going to fucking fall apart.
• 16:55
  Like I feel like when you go to one event where it's
• 16:58
  standardized kind of like that and more regulated, it feels
• 17:02
  weirder when it's not. Yeah, I feel unsafe if.
• 17:05
  You come from when it's a little bit of standards, Yeah.
• 17:08
  You know, if if your car dies dead in the water at Shenandoah
• 17:11
  Speedway, everyone's helping to get it off the track.
• 17:13
  Yeah, Summit staff's going to come get you off the track ASAP.
• 17:16
  Yeah, like everyone's going to get together with their jacks to
• 17:18
  get you off Shenandoah Speedway. But some a point, like, yeah,
• 17:21
  staff's going to come. Out, quite literally, yeah,
• 17:23
  that. Yeah.
• 17:24
  But it's just, I don't know, Everybody can learn something
• 17:26
  when you attend a track that has a bit more regulation.
• 17:30
  I'm, I'm all for it usually because like, I mean, we can go
• 17:32
  back to like the old stories more like, so club loose was
• 17:36
  club loose always. And then people wanted to tandem
• 17:38
  and they want to go through all the rules.
• 17:39
  So they would go to PA and go to ready set drift, not talking
• 17:42
  shit on race drift. They're fine and they've, if
• 17:44
  anything, they've gotten even better over the years.
• 17:46
  But back then it was like, oh, you just go over there and you
• 17:49
  can tandem. It's like, yeah, we went there
• 17:51
  once we tanned them and your teeth in.
• 17:52
  Yeah, some random person T-bone Justin's car and like, fucked it
• 17:57
  up. And I was like, OK, This is why
• 17:58
  you don't want to do this, because you got people on the
• 18:00
  track that shouldn't be doing that stuff, you know what I
• 18:03
  mean? So.
• 18:03
  That's that's an example we talk about all the time.
• 18:06
  Like people go all the way to Shenandoah and get that mixed up
• 18:09
  with the Shenandoah circuit that we have.
• 18:11
  Yeah. And Shenandoah Speedway is just
• 18:13
  like a big Oval. So you can learn there.
• 18:15
  Yeah. We also have learning tracks at
• 18:17
  our facility, but then people are like, oh, the tech's going
• 18:20
  to be too hard or or whatever. Are registrations too much?
• 18:22
  Well, plans are an act, you know, like there's reasons why
• 18:26
  you go to those courses and there's also reasons why you
• 18:28
  want to. Once you've gotten that
• 18:30
  centered, it's not that out of reach kind of thing.
• 18:32
  And we keep getting reminded of why the rules are there, like
• 18:35
  last weekend. Holy.
• 18:36
  Crap we were talking about. That was violent.
• 18:38
  Holy shit, man. So like.
• 18:41
  That got posted on a Lone Star Derb so fucking fast I couldn't.
• 18:44
  Even were they saying anything crazy?
• 18:46
  Or you know, just a normal Internet user and go right to
• 18:50
  the comments because I just want to see what people.
• 18:52
  Are I saw some of the comments because?
• 18:54
  It's like it's like ran out of talent, did this, did that.
• 18:57
  I'm like, what? Kyle is a great driver.
• 18:59
  Yeah, OK. I would not doubt in my mind
• 19:01
  he's done that turn probably 100 times minimal and it's fast.
• 19:06
  Yeah, it is. Lots of things can happen.
• 19:08
  Nobody's a robot. You remember we were just
• 19:10
  talking about that dude. We're literally just talking.
• 19:12
  About like literally the Thursday before that.
• 19:15
  Oh cool. One, I'm glad that Kyle is OK.
• 19:18
  Yeah, and now, now everyone's thinking about intrusion bars
• 19:21
  now. Oh.
• 19:22
  Dude, that's so as soon as I saw it was Kyle, I was like, Kyle is
• 19:27
  not a dummy. Yeah, here, if he has a cage, he
• 19:30
  has a cage there for a purpose and not for just just to say he
• 19:34
  has a cage. So I'm sure he had intrusion
• 19:36
  bars, right? Didn't he drop the rear?
• 19:39
  Yeah, it's. Really hard and he just sucked
• 19:40
  him into the grass. That's perfect.
• 19:42
  Storm. Shit just happens.
• 19:44
  OK, Some people in the comments on the Lone Star Dirt post we're
• 19:47
  like a little insensitive. Well, yeah, but I've never been
• 19:49
  there. You don't know.
• 19:50
  What that? Section's.
• 19:51
  Like dude that drop off the drop off site club loose are hort to
• 19:55
  that. Thing I bet you the driver's
• 19:56
  door doesn't even like open or close, right?
• 19:59
  Probably not. Is so according.
• 20:00
  Look at the crease in the roof. Do you see?
• 20:03
  The crease in the I told him give give the car to prison
• 20:05
  Mike, he'll fix it up, but. You're.
• 20:08
  Fun. That's the only guy that.
• 20:09
  I 1000% nodded down. In my mind, Mike is dude hole.
• 20:13
  Yep. That saved.
• 20:15
  There you go. That's why that saved that
• 20:17
  person's legs well. The the way the dash even came
• 20:19
  in like how the passenger probably didn't have a broken
• 20:22
  wrist or anything is pretty insane.
• 20:25
  So, but now you saw how he dropped off there.
• 20:26
  Do you remember drifting that section of E town and how it
• 20:29
  felt? I drove it reverse for D1 and
• 20:34
  yeah, yeah. Yeah, right.
• 20:36
  Right where he fell off is right where it feels like the whole
• 20:39
  track is kind of. Like it looks like it leaning a
• 20:42
  little bit. It never works.
• 20:42
  You know, on a big screen, yeah, it's so fucking crazy that we
• 20:46
  were just mentioning that. And then and then trees are
• 20:49
  fucking magnets for drift cars, I guess because, dude, he was
• 20:52
  going the other way. And then it just went.
• 20:53
  Imagine that little like you're just.
• 20:55
  Well, the Arch Jefferson, of course, has the same thing.
• 20:57
  There's like one spot that you can get to a tree, but like same
• 21:01
  thing. Most of that, but there's
• 21:02
  double. Trees.
• 21:04
  Whoa, whoa, right. Yes, don't tell anybody, but is
• 21:07
  it, did he look at it and said I'm not going to look away from
• 21:11
  it until I hit it or did he like actually get on the brakes and
• 21:14
  it's just the trajectory was wrong?
• 21:15
  We don't know, my only piece with the video, and I don't I
• 21:18
  don't know him, is that it kind of seemed like the car shut
• 21:21
  down, like there was never a throttle input after we left the
• 21:24
  track. It was just.
• 21:25
  Yeah, we don't really know the full, I guess we don't know the
• 21:27
  complete story. It just looked.
• 21:28
  Like yeah cuz I maybe if that happened I would pull the
• 21:32
  handbrake one more time. Or The thing is.
• 21:34
  I was gonna get out of it. Yeah.
• 21:35
  He. Could he could be going on, he
• 21:37
  could be on the brace. We don't know.
• 21:38
  Like there's no way to. Know, I think maybe it could
• 21:40
  have shut off that looks that's what kind of what it looks.
• 21:42
  Like, it's really, really quiet. And what I don't like too is
• 21:46
  dude, you. That shit was right in his like,
• 21:49
  lying. Street to hit it it's.
• 21:51
  Literally the only yeah. It's like the only thing that
• 21:52
  hit. It might look like it's moving
• 21:55
  slowly, but that is a fast. Yeah.
• 21:58
  Crash and you're just watching that tree get closer and closer
• 22:02
  to you. Like what do you do, my God?
• 22:05
  I'm glad Kyle is okay, I'm glad you took the right safety
• 22:08
  measures and I'm sure the club, loose team and staff made sure
• 22:13
  that everybody was situated I. Mean, that's got to be a pretty
• 22:18
  proud moment for rules and regulations, right?
• 22:20
  Yeah. He took something that was
• 22:21
  incredibly unsafe and we made it so two people walked away from
• 22:25
  it. Yeah.
• 22:25
  Yeah, it's. I don't think anyone that
• 22:28
  actually had an opinion that cared said anything negative.
• 22:31
  Yeah I wouldn't even read the comments on that shit honestly.
• 22:33
  It's like 9. They're so funny sometimes
• 22:35
  because. It's probably people in there
• 22:36
  that never even drifted that's. What I'm saying like somebody
• 22:38
  will say something and then you go to their profile and they
• 22:40
  drive an Altima. Yeah, you're like what the fuck?
• 22:42
  Are we talking big Altima? We're all.
• 22:44
  One day from having that exact. Day.
• 22:45
  Yeah, yeah, like. 100. Percent every time I start my
• 22:48
  car I know it could be that day. When I saw that video I was like
• 22:51
  OK, drifting is dangerous sometimes.
• 22:53
  I guess like that was my first thought because I always think
• 22:55
  it's not. I mean, I've seen people off at
• 22:57
  the end like pass that into the trees.
• 22:59
  Yeah. If you do like regular sea
• 23:01
  course backwards like just drop a tire and entry and you go off.
• 23:04
  Left there's also a wall there like there's there's there's not
• 23:08
  a lot of runoff through the tree it's.
• 23:11
  It's like. Yeah, bring it up.
• 23:12
  There's, there's the wall. It's it's a hidden wall but it
• 23:16
  will fuck you up because you're not supposed to hit pension.
• 23:19
  But if you zoom in at that tree, that's the only fucking tree
• 23:22
  there, right? That's it right there.
• 23:24
  There's 2 trees. Oh, OK, There's two, dude.
• 23:27
  Look, I want to take the koi on that motocross track, Chris,
• 23:30
  come on. I'm sure we can make something
• 23:32
  happen. Look at that.
• 23:33
  Yeah. Usually everyone just goes to
• 23:35
  Wawa, they call it back there and they just go into those
• 23:37
  bushes on the left side. Yeah, there, Yep.
• 23:40
  But I mean, there's trees in there, but I guess they're not
• 23:43
  that. You know, I've dropped a tire,
• 23:47
  but there was one day at E Town where no one was on the track.
• 23:51
  It was like maybe a Sunday club loose or something like that.
• 23:54
  No, it wasn't club loose. It couldn't have been.
• 23:56
  But we were doing something and we're just going to the first
• 23:58
  turn and then we come back. And then we just go all the way
• 24:01
  to the back and we just go as fast as we can in the first turn
• 24:03
  and then go back. And we just try to.
• 24:05
  I'm trying to hit 100 miles an hour.
• 24:06
  I think I just kept going. Yeah.
• 24:08
  And I, we just kept turning around and come back.
• 24:09
  And then one time we're going and I initiate and the tiger
• 24:14
  hits the grass and I'm like, oh boy.
• 24:17
  And the whole front end swings back around and it, I think it
• 24:21
  went onto the grass. And then I, like, babied it back
• 24:24
  onto the track and I was like, all right, we're done for the
• 24:26
  day. Because like, exactly what
• 24:28
  happened to him was going to happen to me.
• 24:30
  Like, but with a tire wall. Oh, on the ends.
• 24:33
  Like right here. Oh, you're about a rich white
• 24:35
  man yourself? Oh, that one.
• 24:36
  See that? Yeah, those the grass right
• 24:38
  there like I dropped one. No back further a little bit
• 24:41
  left. Yeah, back there on the body.
• 24:44
  Yeah, right there. And then just I felt it and the,
• 24:47
  and the front swung around. I was like, what the fuck?
• 24:49
  And then we were half in the dirt and I was like, oh God, oh
• 24:52
  God, oh God, like, yeah. Because you know you're going to
• 24:54
  lose control because the grass is just going to, you're going
• 24:56
  to have no control at that speed.
• 24:57
  The grass is fast, yeah. That's for sure.
• 24:59
  That's true. Yeah.
• 25:00
  At any race track, Yeah, it's very fast.
• 25:02
  At some point. You guys got a lot of grass
• 25:04
  there, Point duty. The grass at Summit is very
• 25:08
  green, I think. They Polish.
• 25:09
  And very wet. They have so much time, look how
• 25:12
  green it is. Wow, dude.
• 25:14
  Well. That whole area is pretty
• 25:15
  beautiful. I mean, let's be honest, it's
• 25:17
  not New Jersey, let's just put it that way.
• 25:19
  It do be looking really vegetative the lot going.
• 25:22
  On yeah, that whole place. Is it Eddie?
• 25:24
  So Eddie's looking at it right now.
• 25:25
  Like wait, what? The people who are complaining
• 25:28
  about not being able to tandem there, It's funny because
• 25:31
  Washington is the best. Place center where the training
• 25:35
  facility range is. OK, here we go.
• 25:38
  There we go. Look at that.
• 25:40
  He's. Cheating.
• 25:41
  He's gonna he's gonna make it even easier.
• 25:42
  What's he doing? He's gonna try to split it.
• 25:46
  He's trying new but what happened this?
• 25:48
  Is the. One all right, Yeah.
• 25:51
  Dude, Washington is the one. Yeah, that's the one with the
• 25:53
  two circles on it. That one you can tandem on
• 25:56
  without a cage and like it's a lot slower and like dude,
• 26:00
  honestly? Super gear, super JDM you.
• 26:03
  Can pass on it. For sure.
• 26:04
  Yeah. And like I don't like, if that's
• 26:06
  really all you want to do is tandem, knock yourself out.
• 26:08
  That is, a great tandem would. Be one of the only tracks.
• 26:11
  I mean, we'll have close to 300 cars.
• 26:13
  That'll be the only one with a line that's more.
• 26:15
  Than for sure. In it OK, 1000% like so.
• 26:18
  A funny problem to have when we have all these tracks to.
• 26:20
  Drive even with that many cars, it's like there's no line.
• 26:23
  Spread out, yeah, and everyone only wants to pit on Shenandoah
• 26:26
  when there's paddock space everywhere.
• 26:29
  So don't park at Shenandoah this year because you're going to get
• 26:31
  cut off by the. Bridge Park on Summit Main.
• 26:33
  Summit Main. That's where the pros park, yes.
• 26:35
  OK, because we just want to go fast.
• 26:36
  And what I want to know more about.
• 26:38
  This little also summit main has the newest gas pumps that are
• 26:42
  super nice, it has a nice place to get food and it has the best
• 26:46
  bathrooms. OK.
• 26:47
  No, don't try that. Oh.
• 26:49
  Sorry, we have. Oh, I know.
• 26:50
  I know where to go over there. I've I Vaschetti.
• 26:53
  I've seen Vaschetti in the morning once.
• 26:55
  I came in, there's one Miata outside of the one bathroom, and
• 27:00
  I was like, take? The car.
• 27:02
  That's so hard of you for Shetty.
• 27:03
  I'm going to use that one from now.
• 27:05
  On so look at the summit Point circuit fax.
• 27:08
  So we'll just do like I don't know how to you can see this
• 27:11
  section. So we're basically just drift
• 27:14
  the down into the chute. What is this?
• 27:15
  58 Turn 4/4. Down.
• 27:18
  Where's your mouse? Nope.
• 27:20
  He's like, that's Jefferson. Keep Yep, keep falling right
• 27:22
  there, there. All right.
• 27:23
  So we start like right there and act like you're driving down, go
• 27:26
  down the chute. Other way?
• 27:27
  It's down to the right, Yep. And then left enter there to a
• 27:30
  back key, Yeah. Dude.
• 27:31
  Then it opens. Up into the carousel.
• 27:33
  Our Ethan has a video of him doing that and it looked pretty
• 27:37
  sick. I hate to tell him that it
• 27:38
  looked pretty sick, but that corner is sick.
• 27:42
  I think Luke Fink did it best in his vet a couple.
• 27:44
  Years ago, one. Thousand.
• 27:45
  I was like, I saw that on grid. I was like what the fuck?
• 27:48
  The smile after was the best part.
• 27:50
  Of that with an open face helmet that's totally up to his back.
• 27:54
  Yeah. Also, when you roll in, that's
• 27:56
  the one that you see. Sometimes they'll be like, maybe
• 27:59
  not DoD, but like any other time you'll see like fucking 911
• 28:04
  GTVRS fucking. Ripping through.
• 28:06
  He's in his blue Corvette when he does the back of you.
• 28:08
  Well again, I know it's going to be a lot for Luke since he
• 28:10
  hasn't been here in like 2 years, but that's just one.
• 28:15
  And that's the fastest. That's the fastest 1 and the
• 28:18
  fastest cycling because people are intimidated by it so.
• 28:23
  That's the cool part about DoD. It's not for one driver group.
• 28:26
  It can be your first event or your.
• 28:30
  This is my 20th time I've driven this year or I've been doing
• 28:34
  this for 20 years. It's for everyone and that's
• 28:36
  really what makes it special. It's not for one group, it's for
• 28:39
  everyone. So how do you guys run it when
• 28:41
  'cause you were, you were saying tandems need to have cages.
• 28:43
  Do you Do you just go up with? Your group the line no left is
• 28:46
  for solo rights for. Tandem.
• 28:48
  That's the easiest way. And if you're tandem and you're
• 28:50
  drifter, Vonic United to be suited and passion needs to have
• 28:52
  the equal gear. OK, and you pull up online and
• 28:54
  either you said I'm going to or I'm going whatever's behind me.
• 28:58
  OK, so the first car is going to delegate how many people are
• 29:00
  going with you? OK cool.
• 29:02
  Damn, this is kind of sick. Dude, imagine we had to buy
• 29:05
  suits. Oh.
• 29:06
  Yeah, we'd be so fucking cool. Dude you don't have a cage
• 29:10
  either so Nope. Like.
• 29:13
  But like, even I started on the Shenandoah circuit, like where
• 29:17
  final bouts come to, but the owner of the track was just
• 29:20
  like, I might see you guys in March and we're like, well, why
• 29:23
  did we shut down in October? He goes, I don't know what the
• 29:25
  road racers do. I was like, can we just keep
• 29:27
  drifting? He's like, how about we do like
• 29:29
  a big event where we have like all the tracks?
• 29:31
  And I was like, you're ridiculous.
• 29:32
  That was that was their idea. That was their idea.
• 29:36
  That was all about it. The same guy that did the the
• 29:37
  summer point karting, he just had whatever idea and he got to
• 29:40
  run with it. But family stuff happened.
• 29:42
  They had to pass off ownership, but yeah, I cut my teeth here at
• 29:45
  this track so. I mean, December was like, oh, I
• 29:49
  was telling you earlier, that's like that's always been like the
• 29:52
  most known event. When I started drifting, I was
• 29:55
  like, oh, we got to go down there and do that.
• 29:57
  I was like, where is it? The fuck?
• 29:58
  I'm not driving my car down there.
• 29:59
  But like that's that's where everyone would talk about.
• 30:02
  Like that's the event everyone would talk about.
• 30:03
  It's. Actually really interesting,
• 30:05
  when Bill Scott built this track, all these were actually
• 30:07
  supposed to be linked together and there was going to be a
• 30:10
  grand course. I mean they're.
• 30:12
  Close. Yeah.
• 30:14
  So that was the original plan of him building all these.
• 30:16
  So like Shenandoah Circuit, what he's talking about, actually,
• 30:19
  Bill had guys go over and take measurements, take pictures.
• 30:23
  That's an exact replica of one of the Nurburgring corners.
• 30:27
  Let's Go Racing LP Yeah, that carousel Kern Yeah, that
• 30:30
  carousel the. Oh, really?
• 30:31
  At. Nurburgring.
• 30:33
  He used to do Formula Ford racing in Europe and he wanted
• 30:36
  that back home, so that's. So crazy and we just on the top
• 30:39
  or the bottom and some people have tried the center but it's
• 30:42
  narrow. So that's, that's our, we have
• 30:44
  Nurburgring at home. Yeah, I've seen, I've seen that
• 30:47
  section. I thought of the Nurburgring,
• 30:48
  but I was like, there's no way. It's exact.
• 30:50
  That's crazy. Dude that shit is like if you if
• 30:53
  you time it and like dip the front off and like tap the brake
• 30:57
  once the front wheel just stops the whole corner just.
• 31:02
  Wow. She looks hard.
• 31:05
  And that's the one that final belt does this, no?
• 31:08
  Well, if they go on the other side of the bridge, okay, but
• 31:12
  Lucy had someone go high and low at the same time.
• 31:15
  He was there for drift week. And I was like, oh, I did.
• 31:17
  A Chase on it before yeah, maybe Chase did it.
• 31:19
  That's. Right.
• 31:20
  Chase did it that final bout in my car on the concrete, and that
• 31:23
  was the wildest stuff I've seen. It was really cool.
• 31:25
  Yeah. So they run that lower.
• 31:26
  We're on the Shenandoah circuit. That's the final bout course
• 31:28
  right there. OK, yeah, now I'm getting my my
• 31:30
  bearings. I'm trying to figure out where I
• 31:32
  was when. Yeah, cuz that's that whole pit
• 31:34
  section down there, right? That's like.
• 31:35
  A shooter queen right there. Actually, they did.
• 31:37
  Bridge short, which was this section.
• 31:39
  The first one ever, yes, but then the last two have been last
• 31:42
  two, that lower one. I think the one that you saw was
• 31:45
  the one where they went down the hill.
• 31:47
  Yeah, Was. When it rained, yeah.
• 31:48
  Oh yeah, dude, it was. I was not there for that.
• 31:51
  I. Was actually I was landing on
• 31:52
  the bridge. My umbrellas like completely
• 31:54
  folded over. I'm like, I really am enjoying
• 31:56
  this so much we're. Having a good time, yeah.
• 31:59
  I was judging the event and I'm just like, I don't know how
• 32:01
  we're supposed to judge this. Like everyone's just sucking.
• 32:03
  It's fucking downpour. You didn't crash.
• 32:05
  Good job. Yeah, it was.
• 32:06
  It was fun though. I, I was telling them earlier I
• 32:08
  was like, but that was a fun event though.
• 32:09
  Like just going down there and hanging out.
• 32:11
  You said that it was horrible. Because of the nice bathrooms.
• 32:13
  It was raining, yeah. But what?
• 32:15
  The weather was awful. Yeah, I I had fun because it was
• 32:19
  all the cars were sick too, so it was like a nice Oh yeah.
• 32:22
  Oh, that's. Awesome.
• 32:23
  Oh, maybe they fucking came in GT3.
• 32:25
  That's Jesus Christ that looks sick.
• 32:28
  Hey, it's Patrick. He's my old roommate.
• 32:30
  And it'll look legit. It's.
• 32:33
  Wild, yeah. Yeah, when a when a non drift
• 32:36
  car does it. When a non drift car does it.
• 32:39
  Oh, he's not even drifting on the.
• 32:40
  Crazier. Oh my God, I thought.
• 32:44
  He was going to go for the pass. And what's the?
• 32:47
  What's the? So what is that concrete?
• 32:48
  It's concrete race line through the center.
• 32:50
  Yeah, so. What does that feel like when
• 32:51
  you're fucking? It's terrible, yeah.
• 32:53
  I mean like. Trained.
• 32:54
  I mean, look a stock county. Yeah.
• 32:58
  But like if we run this reverse, so bridge course, reverse and
• 33:01
  you can come across the infield on the top or on the bottom line
• 33:03
  and you shoot over that like you can.
• 33:05
  See. Yeah.
• 33:06
  Get some air there's. Some good cars here.
• 33:08
  Oh God, Is he? Oh, Yup, That thing is about to
• 33:12
  pop out of there. Yeah.
• 33:15
  Yeah, this is. That's one course.
• 33:17
  It'll be 3 courses. Yeah, we chop it up, OK.
• 33:21
  Because like if you go back. Yeah, go back to the.
• 33:23
  Center where we exit out of like we'll just have like the
• 33:26
  arteries that split out. So if you go to the green
• 33:29
  building, Yep, right, just zoom in right where you're at the
• 33:32
  left, the Yep, that main hub right there.
• 33:35
  So like we'll have pit out either on the left or the right
• 33:37
  depending on the layout. And we'll just like break up the
• 33:39
  circuits and have two to three. But everyone wants to park
• 33:42
  there, so don't park there. Oh yeah, there's, I mean,
• 33:47
  Bill's, Bob's Burgers, whatever that is.
• 33:48
  Like there's a nice concession in there.
• 33:50
  There's showers in there. Like it's all part of your
• 33:52
  entry. It's like a little rib eye or I
• 33:53
  mean a brisket sandwich from there or no, Is it they've?
• 33:57
  Pulled pork. They're pulling all.
• 33:58
  Brisket away. I think I remember that.
• 33:59
  Whatever it is, it's hot and it's ready, pretty affordable
• 34:03
  and it's right there and it's on the track.
• 34:05
  Do that and you get to support a merchant, that merchant that's
• 34:09
  in there. And when is this event?
• 34:11
  5th and 6th. 5th and 6th. It's always the first weekend of
• 34:14
  December, it's never varied from that and it's always the first
• 34:17
  weekend it's either 5th or 6th or 4th, 5th and. 6th You have
• 34:20
  any years where it snowed? Yeah.
• 34:22
  And what did you guys do? We they plowed the course.
• 34:25
  Yeah, they plowed the course. We drove, We drove.
• 34:27
  Definitely don't go off. We drove our trucks on it.
• 34:30
  You just push the snow off. Yeah.
• 34:33
  I would switch to like my all seasons or something like I
• 34:36
  would get tired on. Fast, by the way, they are very.
• 34:38
  Soft dude. Oh my God, yeah.
• 34:41
  Yeah, 60. Seven.
• 34:42
  There you go. Snow tires are smoky.
• 34:44
  Yeah, I remember that. I we should go to that.
• 34:49
  If I don't drive it, you should and I will come for you.
• 34:53
  I'm driving the weekend before. The Washington circuit, there we
• 34:55
  go sign up trackside, trackside parking.
• 34:59
  So that's around Maine. No one should ever have to click
• 35:01
  that because they're not going to enforce that.
• 35:03
  Trackside parking. So around the main or the main
• 35:08
  course, what is that 6? 6A and B.
• 35:10
  Yeah, of the main circuit they'll have there's like
• 35:12
  dedicated RV parking and stuff for like 1.
• 35:15
  It's usually the road racing stuff.
• 35:18
  Yeah. Yeah, right there.
• 35:20
  That's like the dedicated parking area right there.
• 35:23
  Oh, it's a little field like when you.
• 35:24
  Drive a little field, but yeah, it's like mainly on the race
• 35:26
  weekends. I think they'd literally just
• 35:28
  leave that tab up to see if anyone wants to pay for a
• 35:30
  reserved parking. But usually, like you just pull
• 35:32
  in and you're just hanging out and you just.
• 35:33
  Just find some. I feel like it makes stop where
• 35:36
  where it would make sense to park.
• 35:39
  You can typically park. Yeah.
• 35:41
  No one actually really pits through the center.
• 35:43
  And we were talking like we can alleviate some of the
• 35:45
  congestions on the Chinodos circuit if people just like pull
• 35:48
  in and park in the main artery of all the tracks.
• 35:51
  Yeah. And just branch out from there
• 35:52
  instead of going to the farthest track that has a narrow.
• 35:55
  And now you're far from everything.
• 35:57
  Yeah, like you're only close to one thing further from the rest.
• 36:01
  Yeah. And then that stuff's up there.
• 36:04
  We have a lot of spectators. I think we did 1600 spectators
• 36:07
  last year. So that's what that's wow.
• 36:09
  That's what they do for that for over the two days.
• 36:12
  It's a lot. Yeah.
• 36:13
  There's a lot. Of there's.
• 36:15
  That many people there, it doesn't.
• 36:16
  Look like a lot of. People though, and it doesn't
• 36:17
  you're not like there's so many people it it still seems like
• 36:21
  it's. Empty.
• 36:21
  Yeah, they're. Not dude, 300 drivers is a lot.
• 36:27
  On 8 courses it's not. I know, but.
• 36:29
  You know, like not everyone's shit's always right inside.
• 36:31
  Yeah, that too. But still like 300 drivers is a
• 36:36
  lot of cars. So it was 100 dritters of
• 36:38
  December for a while. That was the only goal.
• 36:40
  He in his head, if we could have 100, that would like make his
• 36:43
  day. And we hit like 117 and he was
• 36:46
  like blown away. I remember him like jumping.
• 36:48
  He was like making announcements.
• 36:49
  We got 97. Who's got a streetcar?
• 36:50
  Give me this guy. So funny.
• 36:52
  His energy was unmatched for sure.
• 36:54
  Yeah. So they they're really about the
• 36:56
  drifting still. Yeah.
• 36:58
  Hopefully, actually the track. The track is still all about
• 37:01
  Motorsports. They have been very focused on
• 37:04
  it right now. Cool, so that place is not going
• 37:07
  anywhere. Yeah, it doesn't seem like it.
• 37:09
  Is the place is going to go anywhere for a super long time?
• 37:11
  Dude. If it if you're talking about
• 37:14
  the fact that they had apple trees there and they're still
• 37:17
  fucking racing there, we're lit. Yeah, yeah, we're in New Jersey.
• 37:21
  We're just used to everything getting shut down and then
• 37:23
  building apartments so. So when?
• 37:25
  Condos, when they're like, yeah, E town's going to get yeah,
• 37:27
  yeah, we know. Shit, as a matter of.
• 37:29
  Time. We just don't know when, but
• 37:30
  yeah. How fucking?
• 37:32
  Shitty would that be? It'd be like.
• 37:33
  It's going to be the worst day ever.
• 37:35
  Yeah. It's that's why last night I saw
• 37:37
  that and I was like, because I first I just saw the schedule
• 37:41
  and I saw no New Jersey. And I was like, Oh no, please
• 37:44
  God. And then I talked to Chris and I
• 37:47
  was like, OK, talk me off the ledge.
• 37:48
  Well, there's an article a couple months ago, but that's
• 37:50
  like something across the street.
• 37:53
  Yeah, but they were. That was probably the same thing
• 37:55
  that was going on. I remember someone was talking
• 37:57
  about that, but I didn't talk to Chris then because you see that
• 38:00
  shit all the time with Etone. They're always trying to kick
• 38:03
  them out of there. They they just want to build
• 38:05
  apartments there. We got enough apartments.
• 38:08
  Yeah, we need finding more space to build apartments.
• 38:10
  We need If you need a place to live, just move out of state
• 38:14
  we're out of. Room, and I'm sure they're
• 38:15
  probably going to build houses there, but yeah.
• 38:18
  Look at all the fucking apartments around it like.
• 38:20
  Yeah, and look at all like what's?
• 38:22
  Yeah. Why can't you develop that?
• 38:24
  Probably because some duck lives on that land or something.
• 38:26
  Is this where everyone off roads?
• 38:28
  Allegedly, maybe. I don't know.
• 38:30
  I don't. I'm not sure but.
• 38:36
  Oh, that OK, Yeah, go for it. There's a racetrack there
• 38:39
  though, so I hope you guys enjoy the noise.
• 38:41
  Like that's what. Like dude, but then they're
• 38:42
  going to complain about the noise.
• 38:44
  That's what I mean. It's like, Oh no, you guys got
• 38:46
  to get rid of the racetrack so we can build houses here.
• 38:47
  No, motherfucker, you got to tell everyone that lives there
• 38:50
  that they're going to hear race cars all day.
• 38:52
  Like, what do you mean? It's just retarded.
• 38:56
  I feel like one thing that we forget about is that there's a
• 38:58
  there's like a, do you see the airstrip?
• 39:00
  Yeah, there's a fucking airport there too.
• 39:02
  Like no one complaints about that.
• 39:03
  Right, no one complaints about a fucking airport.
• 39:05
  But his house is right next to it.
• 39:07
  There's literally a house like 100 feet from there.
• 39:09
  I mean, who knows, maybe they complain about that too.
• 39:11
  They. Definitely do, yeah.
• 39:13
  But what's cool is cuz like you'll be sitting there at an
• 39:15
  event and fucking planes are going up, down, yeah, going
• 39:19
  right over. And you're like.
• 39:20
  You know, Raceway Park was like when they have the drag strip
• 39:23
  too. You'd be at fucking club Loose
• 39:24
  and then you just hear some crazy shit happening over there.
• 39:27
  Yeah, that was awesome. Like, yeah, even the even the
• 39:31
  fact that the drag strip's gone is is a bummer, but you know,
• 39:34
  it's. All perfect things.
• 39:36
  It made sense, especially. However, the acquisition of
• 39:40
  parking wrecked cars only on the paved areas was a funny way to
• 39:44
  hear how that worked out. But.
• 39:46
  It was probably. An open it.
• 39:47
  Was probably a combination of like, everyone's getting pissed
• 39:50
  at them, the town's getting pissed at them, and then someone
• 39:52
  offered them a shit ton of money and then they're probably going
• 39:54
  to fuck it. Like, let's just do this for
• 39:55
  now. But only if they're on pavement.
• 39:58
  I guess. That's yeah, exactly.
• 39:59
  Yeah, because they don't want the fluids to leak directly into
• 40:03
  the soil. Yeah, run down.
• 40:05
  Let's just like, yeah, let's just like slow it down by
• 40:07
  putting, putting it over the baby.
• 40:09
  The bean counters that matters. Damn I like how from Google Maps
• 40:12
  you could kind of see the drag strip still.
• 40:14
  Yeah cuz that shit was sick. If you don't follow Rich Nap on
• 40:17
  Instagram, follow Rich Nap on Instagram and that guy alone is
• 40:21
  going to not let that happen. Yeah, no, I mean, the family's
• 40:24
  very. He shares some like awesome
• 40:26
  stuff, like just a decent. Long thing on YouTube the other
• 40:29
  day. There is a documentary on
• 40:31
  Raceway Park literally about. So that's Mike's brother.
• 40:33
  Yeah, cool. Or yes and yeah.
• 40:35
  I think there's two or three brothers.
• 40:38
  And Chris is the son of Mike. Yeah, but I think there's, I
• 40:40
  don't know if there's two brothers or three, but I'm not.
• 40:42
  We're trying to get them on here.
• 40:43
  But but they're all bad ass in their own little way.
• 40:45
  Rich will just come by if I think I know who it is.
• 40:49
  It's pickup truck doesn't really hear you.
• 40:51
  If you're talking to him, you got to yell pretty loud and just
• 40:56
  follow him on on Instagram, yeah.
• 40:58
  He. Shares the coolest memorabilia
• 41:00
  type of content. I guess he scans old photos.
• 41:05
  Yeah, that's what he'll post on his story.
• 41:06
  Be like, ready for this one? It's like a wait bikini contest.
• 41:09
  Yeah, you're like hell yeah, what the fuck and.
• 41:12
  He's always got sick music on it too.
• 41:13
  No, the the monster truck thing where it like it's the
• 41:16
  philosophy or whatever and it picks up the car and it holds it
• 41:18
  and. Shoots dude, that's our
• 41:19
  childhood. Like that's what we used to be
• 41:20
  on the commercials. I.
• 41:21
  I thought Chris was like the one who would say like Raceway Park.
• 41:25
  What would you think? It was him.
• 41:26
  It was before he was born. He's a kid that I don't know,
• 41:29
  like, could have been him. I.
• 41:30
  Don't have you ever heard the commercial for Raceway part?
• 41:33
  Can you look that up, Malcolm? Why would I hear that?
• 41:34
  Yeah. I was going to say, you probably
• 41:35
  never heard it. Now you got to hear this shit.
• 41:37
  It's like the, what is it? The little fucking chipmunks,
• 41:40
  Alfred and chipmunks. It's like, no, really, It's like
• 41:42
  that. That voice.
• 41:43
  Kind of. It's like razors.
• 41:44
  Razor. It's like a razor part.
• 41:46
  Yeah, that was the sickest shit and my parents would never bring
• 41:49
  me there as a kid. There it.
• 41:52
  Is yeah, I've heard this. I thought it was just like a
• 41:54
  speed up someone. Talking it might be.
• 41:56
  It's oh, I'm taking my family here and right away, what the
• 42:00
  fuck is it the fucking explosion?
• 42:02
  Yeah. How'd they do that with the
• 42:03
  glass building behind it? I don't.
• 42:04
  Fucking know dude. Or was it not there yet?
• 42:06
  Looks like it's not there yet. Jesus fucking yeah yo what the
• 42:11
  fuck? Now it's there.
• 42:14
  I think the walls there. Oh.
• 42:18
  Oh yeah dude, this is fucking. Crazy.
• 42:22
  Wednesday's at 8:00. That's a fucking middle of the
• 42:24
  week activity. At night, the.
• 42:27
  People wanted it, that's why they don't want it.
• 42:29
  Yeah, what the fuck, man? What's the scene like down
• 42:32
  there? Are you guys both from like that
• 42:33
  area? You said?
• 42:34
  So like, yeah, Shenandoah Summit Point.
• 42:38
  The Nova drift scene is actually pretty strong.
• 42:40
  I am definitely the old guy in that group.
• 42:44
  We go Thursday night and we do S chassis meat and there's a whole
• 42:47
  that's cool. And Chantilly is.
• 42:49
  It that Yep, start guys come do. You have enough S chassis there
• 42:54
  to have S chassis meat. It turns into a Miata meat
• 42:56
  eventually, yeah, but yeah, some.
• 42:58
  Damn it for sure check the stats.
• 43:00
  Yeah, damn it. Yeah, I don't know.
• 43:01
  And in our area, so you know, like we have so many high end
• 43:05
  cars too, like one day it can just be all GTRS and no Miata.
• 43:10
  So yeah, I know we we have a pretty nice group of guys that
• 43:13
  all go out and support each other and, and yeah, it's a
• 43:17
  pretty nice community down there.
• 43:18
  Is that like a weekly thing or is that every Thursday?
• 43:20
  Shit man. Yeah, I know.
• 43:22
  And not dude, because I that I only know about it because when
• 43:26
  Fischetti would share it and they have a relationship because
• 43:28
  Fischetti calls him when he's having a bad day, calls Ryan.
• 43:32
  Yeah, yeah, he and they're like 15.
• 43:34
  Minutes apart yeah, anytime he really fucks something up he
• 43:36
  calls me he's like hey, this is where we're at I'm like yeah,
• 43:39
  you yeah, you're fucked but he. Will he will ask you how your
• 43:42
  day was as well? Yes.
• 43:44
  Yeah, even if he's having a bad day because for sure he's a good
• 43:47
  guy. But I know about the exercising
• 43:49
  me because of and the fact that I even know the town is funny to
• 43:52
  me. I don't know where Chantilly is,
• 43:54
  bro. Well.
• 43:55
  You've been down there before though.
• 43:57
  I went there, got I got stuck no.
• 44:00
  You were staying, you stayed down down there once.
• 44:02
  I did because I was at Dulles. Yeah, that's the gigantic
• 44:06
  airport. Yeah, and Vicetti loves planes,
• 44:08
  so he picked me up from the airport.
• 44:10
  I like had to lay over there. Darth Hazy or whatever, Did you
• 44:13
  go watch the airplanes? Yeah, he showed me his like
• 44:15
  plane watching spot where he takes all the ladies or
• 44:17
  whatever. He definitely a dork.
• 44:18
  He definitely watches planes on his phone all day.
• 44:21
  He's that guy. He's made me.
• 44:23
  Yeah. He checks the flight radar.
• 44:25
  He was. There was.
• 44:26
  One time when he was here, they were decommissioning like a
• 44:29
  decommissioning a certain type type of plane and he had me like
• 44:32
  we like drove to New York and we like looked at it really shut
• 44:34
  the. Fuck up.
• 44:35
  Really. 100% Oh wow. Well, I.
• 44:37
  Live really close to the airport.
• 44:38
  Did you see that fucking plane crash?
• 44:40
  The UPS was unfortunate it was carrying.
• 44:43
  Jet fuel to Hawaii. I think it was.
• 44:45
  I think they were just saying that jet fuel was fuel was in
• 44:47
  the plane. I think they were just saying
• 44:48
  the plane has jet fuel in it. Yeah, but because it was 38.
• 44:52
  But is it 38,000? I heard it was carrying jet fuel
• 44:56
  to Hawaii. Is this a?
• 44:58
  Can you confirm? That would make a lot more.
• 45:01
  In Indiana or some shit trying. To take off it.
• 45:05
  Was a lot correct it? Looked like was trying to take
• 45:07
  off and then something happened and.
• 45:09
  All I know is that it crashed. So everything just full
• 45:12
  transparency. All my knowledge from this right
• 45:15
  now is going to be from us watching this and us discussing.
• 45:18
  This dude look at how holy. Damn.
• 45:21
  Fuck, have you seen the UPS guy's truck dash Cam?
• 45:24
  Yeah, with it just coming over. There coming across like the
• 45:26
  front of the parking. Lot, dude, when I saw this last
• 45:28
  night, I was like, oh, there's gonna be fucking.
• 45:29
  There's gonna be 100 people dead.
• 45:30
  And then I was like, OK, no one was, oh.
• 45:32
  It's a UPS plane. Yeah, it's UPS plane.
• 45:35
  No one died. No people died, but not anywhere
• 45:38
  near what you would think. It was like this one.
• 45:41
  It was like 10. Oh, I thought it was at night.
• 45:43
  It just made it dark at night. It was, it was the sun was
• 45:45
  setting, Yeah. Potsdam, NY.
• 45:49
  That's where the the the impact was.
• 45:52
  Where is this plane just going to come up out of Kentucky
• 45:55
  airport? Geez.
• 45:57
  That was he was taking off from the right and then he started
• 46:01
  going down and it looks like he fucking contacted and it
• 46:03
  flipped. That's not.
• 46:04
  Good. I mean, that's the craziest
• 46:07
  plane crash I've. Seen.
• 46:08
  Was it like overloaded? I don't know.
• 46:11
  Like. Yeah, like drooling him.
• 46:13
  Is it overloaded? I don't know.
• 46:14
  Is that what it was? Not a plane guy called Nick.
• 46:17
  No, I think, I think I had, I think he was taken off and had
• 46:20
  failure. We.
• 46:20
  Would be on here for an hour. No.
• 46:23
  He's calling us actually on the way.
• 46:25
  Dude, that would that's. What do?
• 46:28
  You think the motive was? The motive?
• 46:30
  It's not a conspiracy. Inside job.
• 46:32
  Inside job. So then this got me looking into
• 46:34
  plane accidents, right? Last night I was like, hold up
• 46:36
  because I. Was like this is where Yep.
• 46:38
  I was like, this is I was like, this is just looking at the
• 46:40
  amount. I mean, they said they I don't
• 46:42
  know how long that is, but it it's a, it's a big distance of
• 46:46
  jet fuel fires. So I was like, OK, there's
• 46:48
  probably going to. Be a lot of 11.
• 46:50
  It's probably. Going to be a lot of dead people
• 46:51
  on this one. And then I'm like, well, at
• 46:53
  least no one's in the plane. It's only the pilot and whoever
• 46:57
  and then I was looking at other ones.
• 46:58
  Do you guys remember a plane crash that happened right after
• 47:02
  911 in Queens? It was one of the worst plane
• 47:04
  accidents ever. Didn't even know about this.
• 47:06
  Actually, no. Yeah, it was took off from JFK
• 47:10
  and hit the bottom of Queens like the little island, like Far
• 47:13
  Rockaway, barely. He almost hit the ocean and just
• 47:19
  hit a neighborhood in Queens and it was like 280 something like
• 47:23
  crazy amount of people died. I was like, what the fuck?
• 47:25
  And it was it was like a month after 911.
• 47:28
  So people were probably freaking out like it's fucking.
• 47:31
  Happening, but we just had what just happened at Reagan where it
• 47:34
  was AUS military helicopter that didn't yield to an airplane took
• 47:40
  out like an airplane full of like.
• 47:42
  What are we doing, man? I.
• 47:44
  Don't know what's going on. There's a lot of traffic.
• 47:45
  What the fuck are we? Doing in the biggest amount of
• 47:48
  space. I guess it's it seems like it
• 47:50
  just came out of nowhere though. All of a sudden there's planes
• 47:52
  going down everywhere. It's kind of it.
• 47:53
  Looks like airport type vibes with all the parking around.
• 47:55
  Yeah, there's a lot. I think there was a scrap yard I
• 47:57
  saw. I was like, OK, cool.
• 47:58
  So there wasn't, there was not like a populated area it went
• 48:01
  down in. Thank God.
• 48:02
  Still fucking horrible. Yeah.
• 48:05
  And do you? I don't know.
• 48:07
  I just don't know. You're going straight to
• 48:09
  conspiracy. Right away bro, because there
• 48:11
  was a thing who it might have been tits.
• 48:14
  You have a friend named Tits, but.
• 48:16
  Big tits. No, he's last.
• 48:18
  Normal dude. I don't know why they call him
• 48:20
  actually. Fucking ripped I don't
• 48:22
  understand, I met. Him.
• 48:24
  I met him. I was like, wait, you're tits.
• 48:26
  He's like, yeah, I was like, that doesn't fit.
• 48:28
  Yeah, Tits. Like his, his last name is
• 48:30
  Valtiti and they just call him Tits.
• 48:32
  Anyway, he was showing me a video about how AI there was
• 48:35
  like something about they were trying some company like enacted
• 48:39
  the use of AI and they were trying to shut it down, wrote a
• 48:42
  memo about it. But then the AI became aware of
• 48:45
  the fact that the memo exists, that it was going to shut it
• 48:47
  down. And they were like then AI like.
• 48:51
  Replicated itself or something? Evolved into a way where it
• 48:54
  tried to prevent them from happening.
• 48:56
  That just freaks me out. That freaks me.
• 48:58
  Out comments on that that's. IRobot real life.
• 49:01
  Dude, these people watch it. Yeah, these people have seen
• 49:03
  Terminator, they've seen iRobot, and they're still gonna make
• 49:05
  this shit, so let them deal with the consequences.
• 49:07
  Before they make it to themselves, because they
• 49:09
  programmed themselves right. Yeah, until it starts thinking
• 49:11
  for itself. That's what I see that's.
• 49:12
  A Terminator, you have to think just like a little further ahead
• 49:15
  and you're just like somebody is programming this to make it look
• 49:18
  like this so that we'll think this.
• 49:19
  Way and now and now they actually have a robot that
• 49:23
  they're trying to put in people's houses and I'm like
• 49:26
  yeah, it's gotten to that point now.
• 49:27
  I've seen one walking down the street and then like we went out
• 49:29
  and talked to, we were in like this random neighborhood and
• 49:31
  Wayne's or somewhere in the middle of Virginia and their
• 49:34
  robot walking down the street. We're like hold the front door
• 49:36
  and we go out and we're like talking to the guy.
• 49:38
  I've got videos. This is real.
• 49:40
  Look up, look up, look up the thing.
• 49:41
  The walk, It's like Ned in your end.
• 49:43
  Yeah. The guy one of the guy's name is
• 49:45
  like Ned or something. And then there's also a dog like
• 49:47
  you can have, like a fake dog. Fuck that, I don't want that
• 49:49
  dog. I don't want the person near me
• 49:51
  either, but I definitely don't want a dog.
• 49:53
  The, the closest thing we have to that right now is when you go
• 49:56
  to like Hoboken, NJ City or whatever, they're delivering
• 49:59
  food with it. Dude, I was on AI, was on a date
• 50:01
  once and the girl had said, Oh yeah, you could talk to it.
• 50:05
  And I walked up to that thing and I was like, hey, what's up?
• 50:07
  And the girl started pissing her pants laughing.
• 50:10
  And she was like, you can't fucking talk to him.
• 50:13
  I thought you can't. I thought it was a cart that you
• 50:15
  like. It's moving cooler.
• 50:17
  Pretty much it looks like a cooler with a face on it.
• 50:19
  Wait, it drove. From the restaurant to where you
• 50:22
  were. There's like a bunch of them,
• 50:23
  like it'll pick up food. And then it.
• 50:25
  Brings them on like college campuses, like one of those
• 50:28
  things. Same thing.
• 50:28
  Like, are you trying to talk? It's like a little.
• 50:30
  I didn't. I've never seen it.
• 50:31
  Before What are you doing there? I've.
• 50:32
  Never seen there seen it before. I wanted to just be like, see
• 50:35
  what it would say to me and it didn't say anything.
• 50:37
  So don't here's. What I'm talking about Neo.
• 50:40
  Oh, that, That's high tech. I do not like that.
• 50:43
  Dude, they're putting that in houses.
• 50:44
  It's, it might be in Switzerland or something.
• 50:46
  And they're like, they're like, yeah, it's not really finished
• 50:50
  yet. I'm like, dude, what are you
• 50:52
  doing? You're putting a.
• 50:53
  How heavy is that thing? Well, it's not Finnish, it's
• 50:55
  Swedish or Switzerland. It's.
• 50:56
  Swiss. I'm just saying.
• 50:58
  Get it? Because it's not from Finland.
• 50:59
  You're you're ridiculous. I wasn't picking up on that.
• 51:03
  I I knew none of you guys were go.
• 51:05
  To go to video. Like no, this is freak and you
• 51:10
  guys have these. This is the thing that you ran
• 51:12
  into in the. Screen I saw a dog for sure.
• 51:15
  Oh no no, Hell no. That looks something of worst
• 51:18
  nightmare dude. That thing will choke you to
• 51:20
  death, Yeah. That's what I'm thinking of,
• 51:22
  Like emotionless as fuck, just yelling, just just squeezing the
• 51:25
  hell out of. The next Covid's going to happen
• 51:27
  and this thing's going to be like, no, you cannot leave you
• 51:31
  no worry today. Oh, somebody's controlling it.
• 51:33
  Oculus. So you get an Oculus, you get a
• 51:36
  robot. Good deal.
• 51:37
  I don't know what the situation is, but I've heard it talk
• 51:40
  before and I'm like, that sounds too real.
• 51:42
  Jeez, yeah, I don't know this shit.
• 51:44
  Is to use the Oculus program what you want it to do?
• 51:47
  Let me show you the task. I think that's what they're
• 51:50
  saying. They're it's not really done
• 51:51
  yet, but we're gonna get into peoples hands so that they can.
• 51:53
  Yeah. So it's gonna Start learning by
• 51:54
  itself. Yeah.
• 51:56
  When do you think it's gonna crossover with our world, like
• 51:58
  the drifting or Motorsports world?
• 52:00
  Do you think it ever will? AI and I had a computer.
• 52:03
  Based job. Just nobody wants my job.
• 52:04
  Just robots don't even want my job.
• 52:06
  The automotive space is going to be alright for a longer period
• 52:09
  of time. Yeah, I'm trying.
• 52:11
  To think of where it would be able to.
• 52:12
  Be parts. Parts department.
• 52:13
  That's it. Yeah, that's true.
• 52:15
  Like the sourcing, like manufacturing and stuff.
• 52:18
  Yeah, go and pick up parts like, oh, that doesn't I'll go to the
• 52:21
  back. Like just grabs parts, doesn't
• 52:24
  lose all of them, you know, actually builds them as a trip.
• 52:26
  Yeah, yeah. I guess that one good trip
• 52:28
  probably. Yeah, it might.
• 52:29
  And then it falls on a kid kills it because it weighs 500.
• 52:32
  Pounds Jesus, you went right there, right away.
• 52:35
  People mark my worst. People will be getting killed
• 52:38
  soon by fucking robot. I don't know if it's going to be
• 52:41
  on purpose or if it's going to be like an accident, but it's.
• 52:43
  Going to be a robot jail. No, you just take it out back
• 52:46
  and. How would you?
• 52:48
  Yeah. How would you kill it though?
• 52:49
  How would you? How would you?
• 52:50
  How would you even remotely go? You better.
• 52:51
  Have a a lot of shotguns around because I don't know what else
• 52:54
  is going to be able to take these things.
• 52:55
  They're probably going to be made.
• 52:56
  I got to have. Like the service loop, like the
• 52:57
  Tesla. So you have to cut it.
• 52:58
  It's acting up. Yeah, if they make something
• 53:01
  where we can just kill them instantly, I might feel a little
• 53:04
  bit. Raid like the raid for AI?
• 53:06
  Or like it has like a thing on it where it's just like you pull
• 53:08
  it and it's done. Yeah.
• 53:11
  And how high robots should have been, yeah.
• 53:13
  But then you swat your you can swat your arm away.
• 53:16
  And then and then the. Nose Kung Fu.
• 53:18
  Yeah, it's. Over and then the AI revolution
• 53:20
  happens and you go to pull the one out and it doesn't do
• 53:22
  anything and it's like nice try and then it kills you.
• 53:26
  That's true. Yeah.
• 53:27
  I don't know. I'm not.
• 53:28
  Not to get back to drifting, but do you ever think that you ever
• 53:31
  think that you can mark Adod kind of like a Matsuri?
• 53:34
  That's kind of what, well, Matsuri is like all night.
• 53:37
  And it's like a festival, but like, dude, that is like a
• 53:40
  festival. It is kind.
• 53:42
  Of yeah, yeah, I think that the people that have been to mat
• 53:46
  series would be like, you can't just take that name.
• 53:48
  Yeah, that's true. Like, plus you guys do run a
• 53:51
  sick event that we know you. We can come and break some rules
• 53:54
  and probably be OK. Like Matsuri is like, my first
• 53:57
  time hearing that. I'm like, you like, literally
• 53:59
  don't stop drifting. Like, no, you just keep going.
• 54:01
  Yeah, that's a little crazy. Yeah, I'm just bringing Matsuri
• 54:05
  up just because Super D is this week.
• 54:06
  I was. Going to say they did that for
• 54:07
  the other super D too right? Like the one I went.
• 54:09
  To like all night and shit. Yeah, dude, it's fucking crazy
• 54:12
  when people say that. I'm like, what?
• 54:13
  But then, yeah, they're really drifting.
• 54:15
  I mean DoD ain't exactly an hour long.
• 54:18
  It's like a pretty long. Day probably like 16 hours of
• 54:21
  scheduling truck. Time driving 2.
• 54:23
  Days. No lunch breaks.
• 54:25
  What you do? Yeah, there's always drifting.
• 54:26
  It will not shut down. We shut down one track at a time
• 54:29
  to make sure there's always something for you to do, okay?
• 54:32
  So, but it's too that place is too legit to be running that
• 54:34
  shit in the middle of the night, right?
• 54:36
  Yeah, there's agreements with Township that is that Township
• 54:39
  or what's that town nearby that you can't run.
• 54:42
  That's kind of what the carting went away.
• 54:44
  The carting was quiet enough but it technically wasn't supposed
• 54:46
  to be running during the night but they had 24 hour like
• 54:50
  endurance racing on the carts. That was.
• 54:52
  Probably so sick. Like a team of like 6 or 8 guys
• 54:55
  and sleep in your truck and stuff.
• 54:58
  They used to do like a 12 hour in tonight for endurance racing
• 55:02
  there. And I think the biggest issue is
• 55:03
  like not seeing flags, not seeing corner workers.
• 55:07
  So a lot of that stuff kind of got dialed back.
• 55:09
  I, I did one in my Volkswagen and I put this huge light bar on
• 55:12
  the front. I'm like, dude, where this is
• 55:14
  going to be so good. I got down to turn 1 and
• 55:16
  realized that like I needed it to like point towards the I
• 55:20
  couldn't see anything. It was, it was worse.
• 55:22
  It was the longest 45 minutes in that car in my entire life.
• 55:26
  And I, I felt so dumb at the end of it.
• 55:28
  But yeah, I couldn't see a thing.
• 55:29
  It was, it was really hard. Yeah, it's definitely not easy
• 55:32
  to be drifting in the middle of the night.
• 55:33
  What Volkswagen did you use for this?
• 55:36
  These are road race cars. My background kind of started
• 55:39
  off with Rd. racing with my dad. I still have 3 Mark 2 Volkswagen
• 55:44
  Gtis that we race. So we just did a six hour race
• 55:47
  with both cars and that was the first endurance race where both
• 55:51
  of my cars finished and they looked exactly the same as they
• 55:54
  did when we brought them there. So that was pretty cool.
• 55:56
  We did that at Dominion Speedway and that was a it's a blast.
• 55:58
  What power plant is in that 16 they have?
• 56:01
  One has like a mark 3 ABA so it's a 2 liter and one has a
• 56:05
  1.8. 01.8. You got to tell Carl about how
• 56:08
  you got started in the car world because you were working on
• 56:11
  Nissans and Datsuns and stuff. Yeah.
• 56:13
  Yeah, you mentioned the Datsun. I was kind of born into it.
• 56:15
  My dad had a Datsun shop called Datsun Dynamics and he started
• 56:21
  off doing outdoor AMA motorcycle racing and realized that he
• 56:27
  wasn't going to live long doing that.
• 56:28
  And he kind of he kind of shifted and started doing car
• 56:31
  racing and he ended up IMSA racing 300 ZXS like in the 80s.
• 56:37
  So that ended up being my first drift car was AZ 31 that I got
• 56:40
  from him and. Did he help like when Tom Cruise
• 56:43
  came and did? Oh yeah.
• 56:44
  OK. Tom Cruise drove at some point
• 56:46
  in the 300ZX. What?
• 56:47
  Yeah. Yeah, yeah, Paul Newman and all
• 56:49
  those guys have been the what? The fuck?
• 56:51
  Just just for the hell of it? Or was it like a?
• 56:53
  Movie thing or no, it wasn't even a movie thing.
• 56:55
  You just. Paul Newman and Tom Cruise were
• 56:57
  really big into Rd. racing and they were all Nissan guys.
• 57:00
  Oh wow. So actually, like you like see
• 57:03
  his salad dressings, That was originally something that Paul
• 57:06
  started doing because he was making salads for the crew.
• 57:10
  And someone's like, dude, you should sell your salad dressing
• 57:12
  because he would go and make the.
• 57:13
  Bottle, that is. In the store.
• 57:15
  Yeah, human zone. Yeah, Human Zone Newman.
• 57:17
  Zone. Which is legit stuff.
• 57:18
  He donates all that money. They don't make money making
• 57:21
  salad dressing. It's pretty cool.
• 57:23
  But that's why that's why they had the salad dressing.
• 57:26
  It was something that he was doing at the racetrack for his
• 57:28
  crew. Oh dude, I don't think I'm going
• 57:30
  to buy any other dressing than that.
• 57:31
  Fuck yeah. Fuck cans bro.
• 57:33
  Like I'm just going to. That's true.
• 57:34
  I'm just going to buy Newman Zone now that I know Newman.
• 57:37
  Paul Newman is a car person. So he was a Nissan guy too?
• 57:40
  Oh yeah, big Nissan guys. Oh never mind, I'm going to buy
• 57:42
  Ken's Toyota. Toyota for life.
• 57:44
  That's crazy though, what the fuck?
• 57:48
  I watched Paul probably turn his last laps at Lime Rock Park.
• 57:53
  By that time he was driving a GT1 Corvette in Seca and I think
• 57:59
  he was 78 ish I think when he was turning those those those
• 58:03
  car. I don't think I'll be able to
• 58:05
  drive a car at 78 dude, let alone my.
• 58:08
  Dad, my dad's 67 and he still races a 510 and I.
• 58:12
  Met his dad, that's cool. That's fucking.
• 58:14
  Sick. So yeah, I, I, like I said, he
• 58:19
  Datsun mechanic, master tech. I grew up in his Datsun shop.
• 58:25
  And then when I was 1920 years old, me and him opened our own
• 58:29
  shop and we did Datsuns and Nissans and drift cars.
• 58:32
  And that was where I met Dan. And it's kind of spiraled from
• 58:36
  there. But I did a lot of Rd. racing
• 58:38
  and then I kind of bounce back and forth between Rd. racing and
• 58:41
  drifting. But I've been pretty focused on
• 58:42
  drifting for the last couple years.
• 58:44
  Yeah, how did you 2 get connected?
• 58:46
  What service did you need done? I brought my car to the shop.
• 58:50
  Hey can you Weld the DIF on this please?
• 58:51
  There's still a Dotson dynamic sign at Summit at six a like if
• 58:55
  you look up the shoe for cars to come down like the shop sign is
• 58:58
  still. I'm going to look for it the
• 58:59
  next time I'm there. Can't miss it, can't miss it.
• 59:01
  And what year did you have that shop?
• 59:03
  My dad had the shop from the 80s all the way up to like 2007 and
• 59:10
  his business partner actually had a bad crash in the Datsun.
• 59:13
  And that was kind of why that that place went away.
• 59:16
  And then I had my shop auto expectations and and then I
• 59:20
  ended up having another one out kind of closer to where I moved
• 59:23
  to because I wanted to be closer to Summit Point.
• 59:24
  And my wife is an Angel and she decided like, yeah, we can live
• 59:28
  25 minutes from Summit Point. So that's where I live now.
• 59:31
  W yeah, Look, the school, we got this right here.
• 59:38
  The track is 25 minutes away. It's not even what I'm concerned
• 59:42
  about. My wife definitely is pro for me
• 59:46
  doing this drifting stuff, like our family trips.
• 59:48
  Like this year we went down to Coreworks to pick up fenders.
• 59:52
  I drove all the way out here to pick up fenders.
• 59:54
  Like that's what we did. We were in Dover, Maryland, no,
• 59:57
  Delaware last weekend picking up a six litre and I put it in my
• 1:00:00
  wife's like little Subaru that she takes our kids to school
• 1:00:03
  with. So yeah, like she's, she's into
• 1:00:05
  it. We just got to make a pit stop
• 1:00:06
  really quick. That's a better hobby than you
• 1:00:08
  do A. Great job at that, yeah.
• 1:00:09
  Isn't that great? Like I was going to because you
• 1:00:11
  both mentioned you had kids and I was like, what's it like now
• 1:00:15
  that you have kids because you got to run?
• 1:00:17
  How old are your kids? Like how?
• 1:00:19
  Old you're you're better than I am. 10-9 and seven.
• 1:00:22
  Holy crap. So they're they're like older.
• 1:00:25
  So now you got to really, you got to really reel them in at
• 1:00:28
  like places like that. Is that harder?
• 1:00:31
  Does it take away from being, well, they've?
• 1:00:33
  Been around race tracks, mine are 5 and 2 1/2 and I'll bring
• 1:00:36
  my 5 year old if I'm going to go like 1/2 day or show up early
• 1:00:39
  then leave. You know, something like that,
• 1:00:41
  But I've, I've looked for him like how the fuck you bring your
• 1:00:44
  kid? He's like, well, like you just
• 1:00:45
  set boundaries and make sure they don't go out of that and
• 1:00:48
  like our kids will play together.
• 1:00:50
  And it's that's what I'm saying. You're at height here.
• 1:00:52
  Bring the kids. I took Tucker with me and we had
• 1:00:55
  the greatest time because around 11:30, it was when we started
• 1:00:58
  delivering drunk people back to their campsites.
• 1:01:01
  And I was like, all right, dude, you can drive the golf cart.
• 1:01:03
  Yes, with the golf cart, you can drive the golf cart.
• 1:01:05
  But like if there's cops, we got to switch spots.
• 1:01:08
  So we did this for a couple hours and then people started
• 1:01:10
  paying them. So like, now we're driving in
• 1:01:12
  the golf cart to get ice cream. Hyper Fest is all sick, by the
• 1:01:15
  way. And I took him to Lime Rock and
• 1:01:18
  we did Grid Life and he's 10. He loves it so.
• 1:01:22
  It's a great time. Crap, that kid is the coolest
• 1:01:24
  kid in the class. Imagine shirts like oh we did
• 1:01:28
  make a run of kid sizes ones but no no.
• 1:01:31
  It's like. If I was 10 again and I and some
• 1:01:35
  kid talked to me about the fact that they were at a racetrack
• 1:01:38
  this past weekend. That's.
• 1:01:40
  Nuts. You guys are A1 fathers for that
• 1:01:43
  stuff. Well, I mean, there's even kids
• 1:01:45
  driving now, Like there's a kid, Jacob Duncan, who drives in US
• 1:01:48
  Drift. And he did.
• 1:01:49
  He did the Gambler a couple weeks ago.
• 1:01:50
  I think he just turned 18 and he's got a three, two, Yep. 2J
• 1:01:55
  dog box quick change car. I could probably wheel with the
• 1:01:58
  best of them. Like I know a few.
• 1:02:01
  There's another kid we know, JC, that's more down South.
• 1:02:03
  Oh yeah. With the yellow.
• 1:02:05
  Car with the yellow car that kid can also wheel and I'd throw the
• 1:02:09
  word kid around but that I don't think he's 18 yet.
• 1:02:14
  Or maybe he just turned 18 as well.
• 1:02:16
  Nonetheless, like they're Wheeling and they're half my age
• 1:02:20
  and I'm just like what the fuck? If they have the support they
• 1:02:23
  can do it, why not the fact they have support to do it?
• 1:02:27
  So embrace it and glad the next round of people to be customers
• 1:02:31
  to race tracks are coming. In and I think that's my biggest
• 1:02:33
  push. You know, we're volunteers at
• 1:02:35
  Summit and I want to make sure Summit's there when my kids won
• 1:02:40
  a race and that's why I volunteer.
• 1:02:42
  People ask why do you do this like this?
• 1:02:44
  Is it like I did? I did 2 years as a crew chief
• 1:02:47
  for Nietzschean and I was coming home on Saturdays and then
• 1:02:50
  volunteering on Sundays. And my wife is even like, are
• 1:02:54
  you OK? I'm like, well, yeah, this is,
• 1:02:55
  this is my passion. And I want to make sure this
• 1:02:57
  track is there for my kids to drive.
• 1:03:00
  So that that's my biggest push for for what I do with with the
• 1:03:03
  track and with drifting. What's it, what's something that
• 1:03:07
  you see year after year lately with drifting kind of has
• 1:03:11
  evolved a few times, right? Like what?
• 1:03:15
  What's something you notice that changed over the past couple?
• 1:03:19
  You know, I feel like something. Has changed.
• 1:03:22
  And, and it's interesting you say that because this is
• 1:03:24
  something that I never really focused on and I feel like it
• 1:03:27
  helped me back for a long time. Make your car look good, right?
• 1:03:32
  And now, now like the dudes that I did not, I didn't understand
• 1:03:37
  the final bouts thing, right? But I came and I worked their
• 1:03:41
  event this year. I'm ready to build final bout
• 1:03:43
  cars. Dude, it's just this.
• 1:03:46
  Make one that you like so much. Fun.
• 1:03:49
  What a good group of people. What a what a good group of
• 1:03:52
  drivers. They just have a great time.
• 1:03:54
  So that's something that that caught myself off guard.
• 1:03:58
  As things evolve, it's like, wow, I guess I need an origin
• 1:04:01
  kit. I guess I need a roof wing, I
• 1:04:04
  need all these things. So like I've, I've pushed myself
• 1:04:07
  to make my cars look a certain way and everyone's like, honey,
• 1:04:10
  you don't need to paint your car.
• 1:04:11
  It's like it's $500 going to make.
• 1:04:13
  Oh boys, paint your cars. Yeah, I can't.
• 1:04:15
  I argue with the guy in the room.
• 1:04:19
  I get those ads too man. Refresh for the summer 499.
• 1:04:22
  Oh shit they take PayPal paying for and a firm it's.
• 1:04:25
  Still that sheets yeah like how are they still doing it even
• 1:04:28
  through cope I. Normally paint my own cars, but
• 1:04:31
  it got to like crunch time. I was getting ready for grid
• 1:04:33
  life and I was like, I can't buy the paint for $500.
• 1:04:37
  You guys are. You guys are painting this?
• 1:04:39
  Yeah. I'm a painter by trade now and
• 1:04:42
  if somebody complaints to me about money then I will tell
• 1:04:45
  them. Dude, half the time I can't even
• 1:04:47
  do a job. Like they have a booth.
• 1:04:50
  I'm painting in my garage, I'm sanding it, I'm doing the same
• 1:04:52
  amount of work but they have a booth and Mako's.
• 1:04:55
  Shockingly they're all family owned.
• 1:04:58
  Like Mako is owned by a family like the malls, like Jake and
• 1:05:02
  Dylan in PA. Their Mako.
• 1:05:05
  I would bring any car I could to go to that Mako.
• 1:05:08
  I mean, the guy's got a gun in his hand all day, all day long.
• 1:05:10
  It's going to be pretty. It's.
• 1:05:11
  Going to be freaking nice. Definitely good enough for you
• 1:05:13
  to drive it into a wall. Not intentionally good, but.
• 1:05:17
  Far, far from goodness. When I would make up my car
• 1:05:19
  anymore, I would just I would do all the prep work and I would
• 1:05:22
  bring it there, taped off everything on a trailer.
• 1:05:24
  I'd be like, here you go and then get it back.
• 1:05:27
  Now they painted it the wrong color, but hey, it came out
• 1:05:29
  pretty nice, you know, so I don't.
• 1:05:33
  I literally. Dropped everything.
• 1:05:35
  I dropped a Shirako off and it was supposed to be silver and
• 1:05:38
  like the car already had a livery done.
• 1:05:40
  The vinyl is all done. Guy picks up the phone.
• 1:05:42
  He's like dude, your white Volkswagens done.
• 1:05:44
  I was like, that's that's supposed to be silver.
• 1:05:47
  He was like, Are you sure? I was like, yeah, the golfs are
• 1:05:49
  white. The Scirocco is definitely
• 1:05:51
  supposed to be silver. So I mean, that stuff happens.
• 1:05:53
  It came out. Great.
• 1:05:54
  What do you mean it happens? It's on the piece of paper.
• 1:05:56
  It was. Definitely white.
• 1:05:58
  And my situation was even worse 'cause it was like I want to
• 1:06:01
  Java Black Pearl and they painted it Obsidian Black Pearl,
• 1:06:04
  so it's like it's still black but I guess it's not what I
• 1:06:06
  wanted. But I.
• 1:06:08
  Whatever, I guess I'm living with it because I'm not having
• 1:06:11
  you fuck this all up again. So and it it was fine, like a
• 1:06:14
  paint job was fine because I fucking did everything.
• 1:06:16
  But you know, it was just annoying.
• 1:06:18
  It's like you had one fucking job, bro.
• 1:06:20
  I wrote everything down. I did all the.
• 1:06:22
  That's even worse. I want to touch on like what
• 1:06:24
  I've seen in drifting, like I think like probably one of our
• 1:06:28
  biggest hitter events that we get gratification out of is our
• 1:06:31
  Drift 10 ones. And we have a guy, Clayton, that
• 1:06:33
  does like an insane PowerPoint that you only can see if you do
• 1:06:36
  the drift 101. And people's mindset has changed
• 1:06:39
  to absorb everything. Like if you want to come to a
• 1:06:41
  drift event and wreck your car, you can do that too.
• 1:06:43
  But if you're going to drift 11, you're going to listen to us and
• 1:06:45
  we're going to walk your cars. We're going to look at it.
• 1:06:47
  We're going to ask where your equipment is.
• 1:06:49
  When's the last time you had alignment?
• 1:06:50
  When's the last time you checked your tire pressure?
• 1:06:51
  Like the dumbest stuff like that.
• 1:06:53
  But the openness for feedback is so good at those events that
• 1:06:57
  like we walk away from that event kind of like, oh, that was
• 1:06:59
  like such a good one. I remember Karen, like whether B
• 1:07:01
  or Z that that car rips, she didn't figure it out, but we can
• 1:07:04
  figure it out. And like I can appreciate those
• 1:07:06
  cars like what we've got for drifting is like this new
• 1:07:11
  lifeline of people that are coming in like want to not just
• 1:07:15
  be a customer once. And we, we do share the same
• 1:07:17
  customer base as Shenandoah Speedway and maybe club loose a
• 1:07:21
  little bit. But like we all have the same
• 1:07:23
  customers. We want to keep them on the
• 1:07:25
  track and if they're open for feedback, like that's the best
• 1:07:28
  customer everyone should have. That's amazing that you guys are
• 1:07:31
  doing that. I did not even know about that
• 1:07:32
  I. Didn't know about that either.
• 1:07:33
  That's cool, you know. We do 2 this year this.
• 1:07:35
  Word is it gets thrown around in like a bad space, but you're
• 1:07:38
  grooming a new like like the next Gen. into like people who
• 1:07:44
  will care about those 100% one time.
• 1:07:47
  Jimmy, check me at, where were we?
• 1:07:51
  It was at the competition. We did the twin drift
• 1:07:53
  competition. I already saw Jimmy Oaks comes
• 1:07:55
  up to me right at the end, 'cause I said thank you.
• 1:07:58
  Like he gave me some advice throughout the day.
• 1:08:01
  And he said something to me that stuck.
• 1:08:03
  And it was like, 'cause he knows I wasn't happy with myself and
• 1:08:06
  what I did that day or how I drove that day.
• 1:08:09
  And he said sometimes you have to take some things more
• 1:08:13
  seriously than others. Like, drifting's supposed to be
• 1:08:16
  fun, but at the end of the day, maybe, maybe throw your car,
• 1:08:19
  throw tow plates on it, and you need to make an alignment at
• 1:08:22
  some point during your day. Or yeah, check your tire
• 1:08:24
  pressures. You know, many times I check my
• 1:08:26
  tire pressures, sometimes I don't check it at all.
• 1:08:29
  The other day I did a car track day when I got back from Japan.
• 1:08:31
  Showed up, put my helmet on, drifted, came off track, took
• 1:08:36
  the helmet off and went gear. I didn't check anything.
• 1:08:40
  I should be checking things, I know that.
• 1:08:41
  It's a reminder I've had my wheel fall off on Fordsburg.
• 1:08:44
  Made a post like I was like man what a fucking idiot.
• 1:08:47
  Like. God, God, seriously painful.
• 1:08:49
  But but sometimes I feel like I only know those things because I
• 1:08:54
  made a mistake versus you guys who are making that mistake
• 1:08:59
  preventable maybe for like it's like.
• 1:09:01
  The most gratifying thing I would say we've done as of
• 1:09:04
  recent with our buddy Clayton doing the like the full
• 1:09:07
  breakdown of like we've got videos of how to do a clutch
• 1:09:11
  kick on the course they're driving on.
• 1:09:13
  And it's a video of that. We took a full day to film of
• 1:09:16
  how to do a clutch, how to do AD break, how to do a power over on
• 1:09:18
  the track they're driving on. So it's like a little bucket
• 1:09:22
  list item that we have two. Times, dude that.
• 1:09:24
  Is amazing. 15 people. What was that?
• 1:09:26
  What was that video of the drift Bible or some shit?
• 1:09:28
  You guys gotta make a new. Very inspired off that, yeah,
• 1:09:30
  but it's on one of our friends pages, so it's not on the drift
• 1:09:32
  around a page which. But don't be sharing it online
• 1:09:34
  now, make it. Oh, that's available.
• 1:09:36
  It's gotta show. Reviews.
• 1:09:37
  Yeah, OK. But.
• 1:09:38
  The PowerPoint of like why you need to do it like this?
• 1:09:41
  Like the verbiage 2 set it up. OK.
• 1:09:43
  Yeah, because that is valuable in its own.
• 1:09:46
  So I. Think another thing that makes
• 1:09:48
  drifting special in comparison to other Motorsports is that
• 1:09:51
  it's very female friendly and we even saw that in our school,
• 1:09:55
  almost half of our school. Yeah, this last one, yeah.
• 1:09:57
  Was was female and I think it's one of the only sports that's
• 1:10:02
  not so a type and it opens up a whole group of women drivers
• 1:10:07
  which I think is really special, especially is a dad of 2 girls.
• 1:10:10
  Yeah. And that is something that's
• 1:10:11
  kind of changed over the last few years, yeah.
• 1:10:13
  Kind of now that I think. There's a lot more girls now,
• 1:10:15
  yeah. Hell yeah, Cher.
• 1:10:16
  Sorry, Cher. Like runs the I feel like Cher
• 1:10:19
  is such a such a the queen of the female drifter.
• 1:10:22
  She rich. Yeah, Cher is a twitch drift.
• 1:10:26
  I'm sure he's come to twitch drift.
• 1:10:28
  They were. They were at.
• 1:10:29
  DoD last year, yeah, yeah, I hope they.
• 1:10:31
  And they always pull. I'm sure they will, because
• 1:10:33
  that's just and that's the type of people they are.
• 1:10:35
  Source. OK, you.
• 1:10:36
  Can't miss them because they'll probably pull in an 18 Wheeler
• 1:10:38
  or some shit. Yeah, that's fine.
• 1:10:40
  Look man, Twitch was Twitch works really hard.
• 1:10:44
  I think it's a three car open now because the.
• 1:10:47
  He has multiple setup. Yeah, he.
• 1:10:50
  Wouldn't be shocked if he had. One time we were at club losing,
• 1:10:53
  we were like, yo, where's Lauren?
• 1:10:54
  Oh, he's over there by that house.
• 1:10:56
  What is that? Yeah like it's just massive,
• 1:10:59
  like 2 story trip for like yo. No, he was at the last time I
• 1:11:03
  saw them was at US drift at the at Richmond and he had a three
• 1:11:07
  car. He had the white 180 Dan from
• 1:11:09
  around here. Yes.
• 1:11:10
  He does. Three car I think.
• 1:11:12
  And the, the hydraulics were messed up.
• 1:11:14
  So they were getting a car off like from the top level.
• 1:11:16
  And I was like, I'm going over here.
• 1:11:18
  I'm going far away from that. Yeah.
• 1:11:20
  I guess they do have. If that is twitches then he has
• 1:11:23
  a three car which is. Fucking I'm pretty sure, yeah.
• 1:11:27
  And some of the coolest people twitch and share, man, they're,
• 1:11:30
  they're amazing. Super great people.
• 1:11:31
  I met her for the first time at DoD last year and I have a
• 1:11:35
  second car and my buddies wife Riley drives the car well.
• 1:11:38
  She is really small and I am not, and I was like hey, so I
• 1:11:43
  know we've just met like 3 minutes ago, but can you move my
• 1:11:45
  car 'cause I don't fit in it? So yeah, she hopped in the, you
• 1:11:49
  know, LS, bopped vert and parked it in the paddock for me and
• 1:11:53
  that was how we met. They're great people.
• 1:11:54
  Yeah, so one. 'S left hand drive and one's
• 1:11:56
  right hand. Drive No, they're both.
• 1:11:57
  They're both. They're both now, yeah, and
• 1:12:00
  aside from them meeting by Twitch doing a wheelie past
• 1:12:03
  share on their like first date was I've known Twitch to you.
• 1:12:07
  He used that car the sore to tow like bikes and like move small
• 1:12:14
  things around. That's how I knew that in the
• 1:12:16
  cars, like I would just see go up to a 711 and be like what the
• 1:12:21
  fuck is this? He's always been into like
• 1:12:24
  towing and he. Loves pitch and like a little
• 1:12:26
  custom trailer. Yeah.
• 1:12:27
  And he was just making money doing that.
• 1:12:29
  And now he does like big shit. Like he works at the port, big
• 1:12:34
  shit. Yeah, that's so crazy.
• 1:12:35
  So. This is just about that.
• 1:12:36
  Yeah, I think he's like, he's probably more into towing the
• 1:12:39
  cars to the event than actually. It's it's half the event getting
• 1:12:43
  there for. Him.
• 1:12:43
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or.
• 1:12:44
  The comfort when you're at. The IT gets beautiful down
• 1:12:47
  there. Once you get closer, it's like
• 1:12:49
  you are not in Jersey. That's.
• 1:12:51
  The one thing about the Shenandoah Oval track, Yeah,
• 1:12:55
  dude, that. Fucking up to the mountain.
• 1:12:56
  Yeah, that shit is crazy. Like when the sun hits it,
• 1:12:58
  you're like, where the fuck are we?
• 1:13:00
  Dude it is the Wild West is right.
• 1:13:03
  If you do rent that track please exercise your own responsibility
• 1:13:07
  like and make sure your event runs smoothly.
• 1:13:11
  Like everything can take thing. You could take so many things
• 1:13:14
  away by attending like a drift Nirvana event or a club loose
• 1:13:17
  event. Like just 'cause I feel like
• 1:13:19
  sometimes private days go Willy nilly nowadays.
• 1:13:22
  Of course, fucking doing whatever the fuck they want.
• 1:13:23
  And I'm like, that's. I want to share this story.
• 1:13:25
  So I had a friend that was my brother-in-law rented it for him
• 1:13:28
  and his best friend's bachelor party.
• 1:13:30
  And then this random Mustang and Camaro roll in and they're like,
• 1:13:33
  dude, we rented it. We gave the money to that guy.
• 1:13:36
  He's like dude, what the fuck? And they're like, well just,
• 1:13:38
  we're not driving right now, just let him go do a lap.
• 1:13:40
  First lap, the guy goes out and understeers straight into one of
• 1:13:42
  those fucking concrete barriers in the centre.
• 1:13:44
  First lap, like doesn't even do anything and just wads the car.
• 1:13:47
  And then now they're down because they're waiting for a
• 1:13:49
  tow truck to come from whatever fucking local town.
• 1:13:52
  And this dude wadded his car not even knowing how to drift.
• 1:13:55
  And that's like, yes, they paid the same money they did as my
• 1:13:58
  friends at our Drifters, but then he just went out and
• 1:14:01
  totaled his fucking car like a regular car.
• 1:14:02
  Yeah. But you can rent it yourself.
• 1:14:05
  It is it is a nice like we're going there, Daryl organizes my
• 1:14:11
  roommate and one of my best friends organizes this private
• 1:14:14
  day every year. But now we're going to do a
• 1:14:15
  second one because ironically, that area is the middle ground
• 1:14:19
  for like a lot of us, like for Fischetti to go there.
• 1:14:23
  I think it's what would it take in three hours, 2 hours,
• 1:14:25
  something like that. It's like an hour, an hour now.
• 1:14:27
  It's good. Motherfucking lie.
• 1:14:28
  Yeah, he's he's, he did 1 overrun.
• 1:14:30
  He does have a Miata that might take 3 hours.
• 1:14:34
  But nonetheless, it's like they'll come from there.
• 1:14:36
  We'll come up, we'll come from up here.
• 1:14:38
  We have friends in the Carolinas.
• 1:14:39
  We have friends coming from Georgia.
• 1:14:40
  And like it's. Right off 80.
• 1:14:41
  One, it's like super easy, everyone meets up there and I
• 1:14:45
  think it's going to be a great like Friendsgiving,
• 1:14:47
  Thanksgiving, cool. That's thing like that was going
• 1:14:51
  to be my last event, but now I want to be doing DoD.
• 1:14:53
  So yeah, if I test all my shit, I'm just going there to go test
• 1:14:56
  everything and it's good. Then I will come to.
• 1:14:59
  Do And that was always the last event of the year.
• 1:15:01
  That's been that way forever. Yeah, well it's been so hard for
• 1:15:05
  growing the social space and telling people not to fucking
• 1:15:07
  shut their cars down yet. Yeah, don't do your tear down
• 1:15:10
  already. Which means take the wheels off.
• 1:15:11
  Like fucking put them back on and come to this thing.
• 1:15:13
  Yeah you fuck and then club loose tried to do they always
• 1:15:16
  end up cancelling it like the. Slay moves or Slayride?
• 1:15:19
  Slayride Yeah, they're always like, all right.
• 1:15:21
  That's when they drift the rigs, dude.
• 1:15:23
  That's yeah. Oh yeah.
• 1:15:25
  It's always like on the schedule, but then everyone's
• 1:15:27
  like, that's not that event's not.
• 1:15:28
  Happening. Is it really close to Christmas
• 1:15:30
  or some shit? It's just in December and no one
• 1:15:32
  ever. They just don't want to do it
• 1:15:34
  like Matt and everyone it's. Probably a little bit colder.
• 1:15:35
  Earlier. That's why they're like.
• 1:15:37
  There's the ground is ice dude like.
• 1:15:41
  But the, the, what do you call it?
• 1:15:43
  The one in November is usually good.
• 1:15:46
  Not good, but it happens. Stuffed moves, yeah.
• 1:15:49
  Yeah, OK. It usually happens that one does
• 1:15:51
  typically. But that was somewhat new too,
• 1:15:52
  as if like whatever 5 fucking years ago or a little bit
• 1:15:55
  longer. So it used to be like the shit
• 1:15:58
  would end in what freedom moves. That would be like the end of
• 1:16:00
  the season, I feel like for club Blues.
• 1:16:02
  And then and then it would be 100 Drifters of December like
• 1:16:04
  months later and like everyone's like, I'm not correct.
• 1:16:07
  Fucking drifting right now, Yeah.
• 1:16:09
  If you if you attended summit events regularly, you knew about
• 1:16:12
  100. Yeah, but spread the spread the
• 1:16:15
  good word. Yeah, I was going to say, what
• 1:16:16
  do you guys want to see like in the coming and I guess like the
• 1:16:20
  future, future being like in a couple months, yeah is going to
• 1:16:24
  be a. New season.
• 1:16:25
  For Oh well, yeah, DoD is going. To be right there, you're
• 1:16:28
  talking about next. I mean like, just like I guess
• 1:16:29
  for overall growth, I don't want to keep you guys here for too
• 1:16:32
  long. We have questions.
• 1:16:32
  Probably. We have tons of YEAH talk
• 1:16:34
  drifting for hours I bet. What?
• 1:16:37
  How is Summit going to improve or grow?
• 1:16:38
  Yeah. How do you guys want to change
• 1:16:40
  up or grow because? We probably need to have events
• 1:16:42
  that are smaller focused, like there's a skid pad that we need
• 1:16:47
  to utilize to get more entry level people in that only want
• 1:16:50
  to go to Shenandoah, that don't want to deal with an
• 1:16:53
  organization that's going to like tech their car.
• 1:16:55
  You can show up to a smaller event and will check your car
• 1:16:58
  and give that feedback, but not be like a one-on-one day where
• 1:17:01
  it's like you've got you're going to get critiqued about
• 1:17:05
  this, like we're going to give you some direction and you're
• 1:17:07
  going to take it. But a smaller format, a less
• 1:17:10
  reckless track like we have other facilities that can baby
• 1:17:14
  to you. Yeah.
• 1:17:15
  And I think what summit is got to focus on as we continue to
• 1:17:19
  grow is we have to recognize that there are, you're going to
• 1:17:23
  have 5 drift events and a four hour drive, right.
• 1:17:26
  So if we're going to have an event, it has to be a banger,
• 1:17:29
  right? Faint or fright is a banger.
• 1:17:32
  DoD is going to be a banger, so it's hard to continue to repeat
• 1:17:36
  that. But that's something that they
• 1:17:38
  have to focus on to really give a reason to people to come out
• 1:17:41
  and spend this money, go have some fun.
• 1:17:43
  I think the biggest thing that Summit Point has done right
• 1:17:46
  since the beginning is that we have crazy good media.
• 1:17:50
  I don't think there's many tracks that has the amount of
• 1:17:53
  media that we have. I think if we have a week event,
• 1:17:55
  we have more guys with cameras than guys with cars.
• 1:17:57
  Sometimes. Sometimes.
• 1:17:59
  So I think I. Like doing media there, it looks
• 1:18:02
  fucking crazy because you're on a racetrack.
• 1:18:04
  There's a. Lot of, there's a lot of
• 1:18:05
  talented people, they come up and, and someone has done a good
• 1:18:08
  job of getting them there and, and taking care of them and, and
• 1:18:12
  it's, it's definitely a piece of the puzzle.
• 1:18:14
  I want to, I want to show people this fucking skid pad they were
• 1:18:18
  showing me earlier. You, you got some crazy shit up
• 1:18:22
  there, Malcolm. Summit Point Raceway map of
• 1:18:24
  Nirvana. What should I type?
• 1:18:28
  Summit Point Raceway, maybe? Yeah.
• 1:18:31
  And then just hit. Or just go to Google Earth,
• 1:18:32
  whatever you want to do. Yeah, that one.
• 1:18:36
  OK. So go right, right, right that.
• 1:18:40
  So the one with the circle at the top, yeah.
• 1:18:42
  So that's I think like 500 by well that's 300, so 420 or.
• 1:18:50
  Say 1/4 mile it's. Big.
• 1:18:51
  It's very big. It's big.
• 1:18:52
  That's enough for you to hit second gear at least.
• 1:18:55
  He's been in fourth. Oh yeah. 4th.
• 1:18:56
  Oh yeah. I'm always.
• 1:18:58
  That's fucking huge. Yeah.
• 1:19:00
  Damn, you guys can. Just do this.
• 1:19:02
  You guys should just do Wednesday night fucking events,
• 1:19:04
  right? There and that's and that's kind
• 1:19:07
  of where we're headed for next year.
• 1:19:09
  We have more. Cones up low.
• 1:19:10
  Key events. Casual events.
• 1:19:12
  And have people come out and get comfortable with one meeting the
• 1:19:15
  people at the track 2 get it comfortable driving their car.
• 1:19:19
  You know, I think when drifting started you could buy a 240 for
• 1:19:22
  $400.00 and if you wanted it, you're like.
• 1:19:25
  Yeah, not a big deal. Now a set of doors is $400.
• 1:19:28
  Yeah. Like nobody wants to write off
• 1:19:31
  their thousand couple $1000 investment right away.
• 1:19:34
  Now it's. Now it's FRS and the.
• 1:19:36
  Do you guys remember Dover Drift or no I.
• 1:19:39
  Did want to go to that, yeah. Dover Motor speed Drift, that
• 1:19:42
  was one of the very first places where a friend of ours moved out
• 1:19:45
  of the tri-state area and then they got comfortable with doing
• 1:19:48
  more high speed entries. I think if it's the thing that
• 1:19:52
  I'm thinking of where you were able to just huck it and it was
• 1:19:55
  a big open space. So then I feel like he got
• 1:19:58
  comfortable throwing it right away, whereas all of us were
• 1:20:00
  like, if we throw at turn one at E town, you could yeah, yeah,
• 1:20:07
  you could. Rich Lyman.
• 1:20:08
  Yeah. Like you can, you can easily
• 1:20:10
  like beef. And I feel like when he was able
• 1:20:13
  to do that, it was like pivotable to pivotal for him to
• 1:20:18
  learn it like really quickly. In an open space and that's the
• 1:20:20
  only thing. It's like there are a couple
• 1:20:23
  other places in in actually Maryland that are drag strips
• 1:20:27
  that have like a little parking lot off to the side and we share
• 1:20:30
  the same customers and they get customers.
• 1:20:33
  We still get customers, but we could pull from that town pool.
• 1:20:36
  If we give them like a little track to start with, like where
• 1:20:38
  we started on Shenandoah Circuit, we can give them that
• 1:20:41
  one or we can give them Washington Circuit.
• 1:20:43
  Yeah, the Washington circuit is sick.
• 1:20:45
  Yeah. So it's 3/3.
• 1:20:46
  Every circuit has a three and foot at least one, three and a
• 1:20:48
  foot diameter skid pad. Go left, Malcolm.
• 1:20:50
  See that? See that weird one?
• 1:20:51
  Looks like an alien, Like a crop circle.
• 1:20:53
  A bunch of crop circles. So like I would say that's like
• 1:20:55
  a school course. That shit is fire I love.
• 1:20:58
  Boston 33 and a foot diameter skid pads linked with you know,
• 1:21:02
  sequential or. Whatever, and this is the track
• 1:21:03
  that that'll get cut in half for DoD and this lower end is going
• 1:21:08
  to be hot laps and the other end is going to be that's where I'm
• 1:21:11
  going to be solo. And you know, it's a great place
• 1:21:14
  to learn. Dude, you not that there's not
• 1:21:16
  trees there. You'll find a tree.
• 1:21:18
  Absolutely. And like, OK, let's say you had
• 1:21:22
  no greenery in the middle of it, right?
• 1:21:24
  Yeah, it would be a little boring.
• 1:21:26
  But the fact that there's circles in.
• 1:21:29
  There. Yeah, that's that's what I saw.
• 1:21:30
  I was like the. Driver it helps you like OK I.
• 1:21:33
  Can't go. Through I can't go through the
• 1:21:35
  middle of this. This is obviously grass, but
• 1:21:37
  like, I don't know, that's like the perfect place for you to
• 1:21:41
  learn 100. Percent.
• 1:21:42
  That sounds pretty. Well, big entry, pretty large
• 1:21:44
  entry. You speed up and then you hit
• 1:21:46
  that one end of the circle. You speed up and then you hit
• 1:21:49
  that little divot thingy in the middle and then go back around.
• 1:21:52
  It's sick every surprisingly. Enough for everybody.
• 1:21:54
  Yeah, from the the karting one was there like, I mean how many
• 1:21:57
  laps you did and how I did. Like there's spots where like
• 1:22:00
  right around here, it's actually polished so they, the carts
• 1:22:05
  wouldn't go fast through here. And all of them was like, oh,
• 1:22:07
  I'm always understanding, like you got to set your car before
• 1:22:09
  you get to that point because that pavement's polished.
• 1:22:12
  So the cars didn't have grip. So like there's like little
• 1:22:14
  things that you know, some people know are it's gotten
• 1:22:16
  better now as as we've like laid rubber down, but there's auto
• 1:22:19
  cross there all the time. Porsche Club.
• 1:22:21
  BMW Club, I bet. Yeah, I bet that.
• 1:22:23
  Because there's so many different ways to run it.
• 1:22:24
  Yeah, that's probably auto cross fucking but.
• 1:22:28
  That's why they built the other one because it's like almost
• 1:22:30
  perfect SCCA standards for like they have SCCA, NASA or
• 1:22:35
  Nationals. Excuse me, where you there's a
• 1:22:37
  set space? Yeah, I think like Tire Rack.
• 1:22:41
  They have like their skid pad that's like a perfect spec.
• 1:22:43
  And the Hyperfest or not Hyperfest LS Fest has like all
• 1:22:48
  the autocross boys. She used to get like 3-25 in the
• 1:22:52
  front of your Cobra. They'll do some cool shit, you
• 1:22:55
  know? Dude, I don't know, I I loved, I
• 1:22:57
  loved being there. I can't wait to go there again.
• 1:22:59
  We should everyone. Could hear on Jefferson's
• 1:23:01
  circuit. Yeah, what is Jefferson's?
• 1:23:03
  Circuit and that's where tech is usually.
• 1:23:05
  Oh, I see. Tech's at Maine.
• 1:23:06
  Oh, at Maine, OK. Yeah, Jefferson's circuit,
• 1:23:08
  that's just a lot. Don't go to that bathroom.
• 1:23:10
  It's terrible. That's yeah.
• 1:23:14
  This is the unsung gem. This is a really fast track.
• 1:23:18
  If you can pick it all, Jefferson is sick.
• 1:23:21
  Like if you go to the back like along the bottom to the left
• 1:23:25
  amalgam it like Yep that shit is cool as fun.
• 1:23:28
  Yeah, it's even bigger. Yep.
• 1:23:30
  Yeah, it looks flat, but it is. Not it is not.
• 1:23:33
  Elevation change. Crazy.
• 1:23:37
  And it's a real deal. You can actually see where we
• 1:23:38
  have offs, you know, tire drops. But damn, yeah, there's good
• 1:23:43
  stuff there. And it's a real race track.
• 1:23:45
  The tires last decent. You know, it's a long lap that's
• 1:23:47
  like a minute 15, like it's a lap.
• 1:23:50
  It is big, fast. I know I feel like I'm looking
• 1:23:53
  at these. I'm like these look kind of big
• 1:23:55
  man. Yeah, no, the Z will do it
• 1:23:57
  because I have the same drive. I'm sure it'll do it at 13, you
• 1:23:59
  know? Frankie's not going to do it.
• 1:24:01
  I'm not ready for this yet. Dude, you would love it,
• 1:24:03
  wouldn't it? No.
• 1:24:04
  It'd be you can sign up just to do grip driving.
• 1:24:07
  Yeah, because I always send you fuck.
• 1:24:08
  It little site lab, Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, definitely.
• 1:24:11
  I'd do a site lab for sure. All the site labs.
• 1:24:13
  Yeah. Dude, that is not the place you
• 1:24:15
  would want to fucking get hurt. No.
• 1:24:18
  But this is also like I grew up driving here like 2005 I showed
• 1:24:21
  up in my Miata here. Oh really?
• 1:24:23
  And I had to like, learn this shit.
• 1:24:24
  Miata on there was probably. Jefferson only went here and
• 1:24:28
  then they had that section. But Shenandoah, of course, that
• 1:24:30
  was like my first drift event. It's crazy.
• 1:24:34
  Damn. Yeah.
• 1:24:35
  That is insane. Now were they drifting when you
• 1:24:37
  started, or did you they? Were already drifting OK and
• 1:24:40
  I've been doing it for 20 years this year.
• 1:24:42
  Wow. Yeah, same car.
• 1:24:44
  No, we got to we got to go through your car history because
• 1:24:46
  I need to you need to see the cars that he that he's had over
• 1:24:50
  the years. Can we I.
• 1:24:51
  Don't know what you're going to pull up right now.
• 1:24:52
  Jamie, pull it out. Do you have a?
• 1:24:54
  Is your shit all on your Instagram?
• 1:24:56
  Like, I have a lot of stuff on. Yeah.
• 1:24:58
  The Miata will be in there like periodically, spirit,
• 1:25:02
  spiritually. Malcolm, if you could look up
• 1:25:04
  his Instagram and just see if we could find his car, because I I
• 1:25:07
  want to, I want to see the car that I remember you drifting at
• 1:25:10
  whatever events you. Were on with the fancy hood.
• 1:25:13
  Oh no. I have a fancy knock off hood.
• 1:25:16
  I would keep going down. Oh, that's a knock off hood, of
• 1:25:18
  course. Oh.
• 1:25:18
  It is. Yeah, damn.
• 1:25:19
  Ain't. No bumping it.
• 1:25:21
  Yeah, there's no by the vent. There's only like what, four of
• 1:25:24
  those real ones I think. I think it was like 4 of them or
• 1:25:27
  something like that. What the the Yeah, that's.
• 1:25:30
  That's on Washington's circuit. Like how cool it looks?
• 1:25:34
  And that's your car. That's my car and that's got the
• 1:25:36
  VQ in it. Yeah, it's got HR in it.
• 1:25:37
  OK, Yep. And you were saying you enjoy
• 1:25:39
  that. Why do?
• 1:25:42
  You say it like. That.
• 1:25:43
  Because everyone runs those VQS and I'm like, OK, it must be, it
• 1:25:46
  must be sick. But I mean, it's light, you
• 1:25:48
  know, it's not, it's not a fucking.
• 1:25:50
  Like a stone back. Look at that.
• 1:25:51
  One dude. Appalachia too, yeah.
• 1:25:53
  We. Can we?
• 1:25:54
  Can Jesus all? Right, there's that one.
• 1:25:55
  There we go. So that's Dad, another Dad, and
• 1:26:01
  then I think I'm right there. There we go.
• 1:26:04
  So this is at Beckley. Fuck.
• 1:26:06
  So good. Down the downhill, yeah.
• 1:26:08
  I love going to those man. The The Drift Appalachians make
• 1:26:12
  you feel like you're in another planet.
• 1:26:14
  And it's amazing. Like I mean, what does that
• 1:26:15
  thing make 400 and then Reese makes?
• 1:26:17
  Fucking. 280 and I make maybe 300.
• 1:26:19
  And there's cash. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:26:22
  We never got, we never got to meet Cash, but he's he's pretty
• 1:26:25
  young as well. So you're saying you saw the
• 1:26:27
  Miata? No, I don't think I saw the
• 1:26:28
  Miata. What was after?
• 1:26:30
  The Miata, a blue coupe. That probably.
• 1:26:33
  That had overs on overs because the guy had like.
• 1:26:36
  Did you say you had the you had the 240 truck thing?
• 1:26:41
  I had the truck forty. Yeah.
• 1:26:43
  That that I that I remember the truck 40.
• 1:26:45
  Yeah. Just like demon scroll real
• 1:26:47
  quick. That was probably the first one
• 1:26:49
  that I saw you in. That was probably the first one
• 1:26:52
  of those. Cars.
• 1:26:52
  I did see E town a lot in that car.
• 1:26:54
  Then that's the one, yeah. You have so you have multiple of
• 1:26:57
  these. You have a problem then when
• 1:26:59
  like I did, FDI was. Like a.
• 1:27:01
  Problem, that's when I acquired this car, when I started with FD
• 1:27:05
  because I was like, I can't have like an LS power car.
• 1:27:08
  Yeah. So there's the RX8 I drove and
• 1:27:10
  FD. Yeah, I remember that.
• 1:27:12
  Yep. RX8 and FD is.
• 1:27:15
  How was that that? Was a fast.
• 1:27:17
  Car, you were an FDI. Won the Pro T championship.
• 1:27:21
  Why are we talking about this? We're.
• 1:27:22
  Talking about it, I wasn't. Going to bring it up, why would
• 1:27:24
  I need? To bring it up, fuck yeah man
• 1:27:26
  that's cool as hell. I beat.
• 1:27:27
  Kristops to get in the top 16 here and then I lost the Turk.
• 1:27:31
  Damn. I beat well, so Stoneback and I
• 1:27:34
  were like head to head the entire Pro 2 season and then
• 1:27:37
  Irwindale, his car, his S14, you know, big LS7 blew up and he had
• 1:27:43
  to drive to Vegas to get the retax S13 that like Turkey used.
• 1:27:47
  To drive, Yeah, yeah, yeah. And did bad in qualifying, but
• 1:27:50
  we finished with the same amount of points and I ended up winning
• 1:27:53
  the championship on qualifying points.
• 1:27:56
  So I beat him by half a point for the championship.
• 1:27:59
  And we like didn't even know like in 2014, it was a first
• 1:28:01
  year Pro 2. Like it didn't even like fathom
• 1:28:04
  that we're going to be it was going to be the next big thing.
• 1:28:06
  But now it's pro spec and it's like, yeah, yeah, mega enormous.
• 1:28:08
  It's it's nuts now. Yeah.
• 1:28:12
  Did you compete in this as well, Ryan or?
• 1:28:15
  No as a hell no. That is.
• 1:28:18
  So that's. 14 to. 15, I drove in pro or yeah, I drove pro both
• 1:28:22
  years because I didn't ever think I was going to do a oh,
• 1:28:25
  there's the Miata. I'm waiting to see the truck
• 1:28:28
  right there. Oh yeah, he was telling me about
• 1:28:31
  the dragon with the eyes. So that's.
• 1:28:32
  At Hyperfest, that's turn 9 right there.
• 1:28:35
  So this is probably 2008. There you go, Jesus.
• 1:28:40
  Wait, you earned your license in this?
• 1:28:44
  In this, I accrued enough points to go to the shootout or it
• 1:28:48
  wasn't going to shoot out the finale where the EE people would
• 1:28:51
  meet the West at VIR. And I drove an S14 and got my FD
• 1:28:55
  license. So I got my first license in O 8
• 1:28:57
  for the O nine season. And then I looked at the rule
• 1:29:00
  book. I was like, you're fucking
• 1:29:01
  kidding me. Like I'd have to sell
• 1:29:02
  everything. So I ended up not doing that and
• 1:29:06
  helping this guy Nate Braz, who was doing like NOPI and XTC.
• 1:29:11
  And I was like, OK, you can travel around.
• 1:29:13
  You just need like a bigger trailer and spares and a little
• 1:29:16
  bit of a tire deal and like learned a lot from him.
• 1:29:19
  But then I was selling a part to a kid at that worked at Sikki
• 1:29:24
  and he was he was like, oh, let me have we meet the crew.
• 1:29:27
  And I was like, what's going on? And like the guy that ran the
• 1:29:29
  shop, John was like, hey, you should drive this car.
• 1:29:31
  And then I just started driving for them.
• 1:29:33
  Damn, that's like the. 2011 I earned so in the truck 40I
• 1:29:37
  earned 2 more FD licenses and I was like are we going to do this
• 1:29:41
  or not like this is. Where's the truck 40?
• 1:29:44
  Yeah, keep going. It'll.
• 1:29:45
  Be close. All right, I could throw you a
• 1:29:47
  picture. Dude I wanted RX8 recently to
• 1:29:50
  put the one J in. You're crazy.
• 1:29:52
  Dude, that'd be sick. Oh, oh, I saw something familiar
• 1:29:56
  right there. That blue one in the back that.
• 1:29:59
  One in the back. Right there.
• 1:30:00
  Oh, yeah. Is that it?
• 1:30:01
  Yeah. OK, that's what I remember.
• 1:30:03
  All right, keep going. Malcolm, you.
• 1:30:04
  What do you mean? You remember that blue one in
• 1:30:06
  the back? What do?
• 1:30:06
  You I remember the how the car, the delivery.
• 1:30:08
  Was super sick. My friend Brandon, like always,
• 1:30:10
  knocked it out of the park. Oh, we're getting to like old
• 1:30:15
  Instagram, I feel. There, there.
• 1:30:17
  Yep. Yeah, there it is.
• 1:30:18
  That shit was sick, dude. It was.
• 1:30:20
  So good. I was like, wait, is that a 2?
• 1:30:23
  Wait, it's a truck that. Was a hatch actually the
• 1:30:24
  craziest story this. I bought that car for 1000
• 1:30:26
  bucks. A guy had it on Facebook.
• 1:30:31
  No it's Craigslist and it was just a hatch with a truck and it
• 1:30:36
  had S10 rear glass in it. My friend found it.
• 1:30:39
  He's like, if you want to break the Internet, you got to do
• 1:30:40
  this. And I was like, God damn.
• 1:30:42
  It, dude, Yeah, it was. The rest of it was still 2. 40 a
• 1:30:44
  hundred percent 240 the dude just like cut in and did like
• 1:30:47
  sheet metal sides and then it had like a plate that you could
• 1:30:50
  service the tail lights and shit like that dude.
• 1:30:53
  So I had that car and it had a fully built S14 Sr. like tome
• 1:30:56
  goodies and shit. But I was driving for sickie at
• 1:30:59
  the time and I was like their car that they let me drive for
• 1:31:02
  them. I was like, yo, if we just like
• 1:31:03
  use my blue car, they'd be like way sicker and then it would
• 1:31:06
  like break the Internet. So yeah.
• 1:31:08
  Yeah, try to find some more photos.
• 1:31:12
  Did you drive a lot? Of yeah, what the hell dude?
• 1:31:15
  That RXA tug. Speedway.
• 1:31:17
  That RXA tug, yeah, in. Town The.
• 1:31:19
  Fucking American flag. Yeah dude, who did this edit?
• 1:31:22
  We need to get another one of these.
• 1:31:23
  I mean, it's going if we took the picture.
• 1:31:25
  Oh yeah. That's so even crazier.
• 1:31:28
  I travelled with Chelsea in 2013 being his spotter and she was
• 1:31:32
  his official photographer for 2013.
• 1:31:34
  Oh OK, this is so. Did you have the Sr. in it right
• 1:31:38
  there? No, it was LS.
• 1:31:39
  All right, so yeah. I sold all that to help keep
• 1:31:41
  funding drifting. You can't see the LS coming off
• 1:31:44
  the back of it. Like what?
• 1:31:46
  All right, so click the one in the center with Daigo's car
• 1:31:48
  lower. Let's see that one.
• 1:31:51
  So like Daigo, when he built the R35 in Japan to send it here, he
• 1:31:55
  kept consulting Kevin Wells to like, how do I make car like
• 1:32:00
  within rule? And it was like they're like,
• 1:32:02
  yeah, you can't do a quick change.
• 1:32:04
  And we just started doing quick changes.
• 1:32:06
  So we got the car after wall to put a quick change in it, and
• 1:32:10
  then they still sell them at this point.
• 1:32:12
  Yeah. So that was pretty cool,
• 1:32:14
  bringing that car in the shop because it was very basic.
• 1:32:17
  How's the I? Mean you were just there like
• 1:32:18
  you saw the cars that they make. They're just enough.
• 1:32:21
  They're not like extreme like look at all that cage work on my
• 1:32:24
  car. That car didn't have it.
• 1:32:25
  Bare minimum, that really showed me what what you would need to
• 1:32:30
  do it. That's it.
• 1:32:31
  Yeah, I don't know what it's going.
• 1:32:33
  To say so that car, so you want to keep going, that car wasn't
• 1:32:35
  that crazy that you're using his car.
• 1:32:36
  Yeah, no it. Was just not a. 35 We were kind
• 1:32:39
  of surprised it worked. They had like the.
• 1:32:41
  What strands did they put in that like they?
• 1:32:43
  Had a Hollinger. OK, that part was quite, Yeah,
• 1:32:45
  crazy. But it had the GTR engine.
• 1:32:48
  Yeah, that was AVR, OK. And then the turbo stuff, yeah,
• 1:32:51
  but it was honestly so tidy. And they made a bunch of power,
• 1:32:55
  but that car never was, like, amazing.
• 1:32:57
  That's Jerry Yang still has that car.
• 1:32:58
  The red one. Oh no, that's a different car.
• 1:33:01
  Jerry Yang built his own for Robbie Nasheeda.
• 1:33:05
  What year was this? So that's going to be 15. 2015.
• 1:33:08
  But he first came here with that other thing.
• 1:33:11
  There you go. Did he first?
• 1:33:13
  Yeah, he came with the the SC. Lexus, yeah.
• 1:33:15
  In like 11 or 12. OK, that's what I remember.
• 1:33:18
  The SC 4/30 though and actually. That little Chen's car in the
• 1:33:21
  bottom left, that FC, that's Nachen's.
• 1:33:23
  Who's John at Committed service brand that he built that car.
• 1:33:27
  Yeah, there's lots of cool shit. What else can we find?
• 1:33:29
  Well. I want to talk about.
• 1:33:30
  The third up I want to. Talk about the RX8 a little bit
• 1:33:32
  because like if I mean that car was probably all done up, but I
• 1:33:36
  always we had an RX8 that we used to mess around with.
• 1:33:39
  We fucking hated it. Everyone hated it.
• 1:33:41
  Stoneback drove it hated it. Why?
• 1:33:44
  Why are they like that? Like we could not transition in
• 1:33:47
  that car. It always wanted the fucking
• 1:33:49
  rack. Is that it?
• 1:33:50
  So we did an FD rack and then buried it.
• 1:33:53
  We like made our own angle. Weispad wasn't even out yet for
• 1:33:56
  that. So we made our own angle kit and
• 1:33:58
  it had like a little bit more than that.
• 1:34:00
  Like it didn't have a lot. We just re drilled the knuckles.
• 1:34:03
  We just counted an engine and just re drilled it like we
• 1:34:06
  didn't do anything. And we had like Speedway
• 1:34:08
  engineering, like rod ends and their universal links, and we
• 1:34:12
  just made our end. It's so weird because when
• 1:34:13
  you're driving it, it's like everyone's saying the steering
• 1:34:16
  rack. I'm like I guess, but like I
• 1:34:18
  don't feel like that's the. Problem in that pocket.
• 1:34:21
  I love Wall man I wish they would just bring that back.
• 1:34:23
  It was pretty fun. I've never been to the parks.
• 1:34:26
  Earlier. That shit looks so good, yeah.
• 1:34:29
  And like it was so easy because like like right here, mad Mike,
• 1:34:32
  like he came up to me at Long Beach and he was like bottom
• 1:34:34
  right. Hey, this is awesome.
• 1:34:35
  It's I was. Would you say like it was a
• 1:34:38
  little bit more not accessible is the word I mean I guess maybe
• 1:34:41
  accessible is the? Word or what engine?
• 1:34:42
  Did you? It was like more, yeah.
• 1:34:43
  Yeah, I couldn't. Imagine that we feel like motor
• 1:34:46
  was fine, like the power and everything was.
• 1:34:48
  It didn't feel like that was a problem at all.
• 1:34:50
  Changes. Just servicing quick changes.
• 1:34:52
  Yeah, there's a lot to unpackage from them.
• 1:34:55
  I feel like it was more personal like.
• 1:34:59
  Personal well, Mike was supposed to debut the Miata and Mike
• 1:35:02
  right there and. Go to that.
• 1:35:04
  Oh yeah. Go to that video that was right
• 1:35:06
  next to it. Yeah.
• 1:35:07
  Oh yeah, That's amazing actually.
• 1:35:09
  Yeah, through the smoke, yeah. I love that track.
• 1:35:15
  It's. So wild.
• 1:35:16
  Yeah, that's one of my favorite ones.
• 1:35:20
  That layout was like what I wanted to do with that and
• 1:35:23
  Irwindale, so getting to be in top 16 here was like insane.
• 1:35:28
  But imagine a Rotary in it. I imagine me on the sidelines
• 1:35:31
  fixing it so Kyle, Mohan and I were the only people that could
• 1:35:35
  share parts. OK.
• 1:35:36
  Yeah. So yeah, we didn't need a spare
• 1:35:38
  package because we always knew he was there.
• 1:35:40
  And he kept drifting that for a while after that.
• 1:35:41
  He did, yeah. And subframe wise, it's the same
• 1:35:44
  as the NC Miata. So that's why he has one of
• 1:35:47
  those. It's the same thing.
• 1:35:49
  Oh, there's a wait. Go out.
• 1:35:50
  That's the truck on the right. Yeah, Yeah, I remember too.
• 1:35:54
  And I did the kooky front. Yeah, I did the kooky front
• 1:35:56
  because the guy cut the B pillar in such a weird way that like I
• 1:35:59
  had an R33R33 front that I got from like Kylie for like no
• 1:36:03
  money. And I was like the bubbliness,
• 1:36:05
  just like ruins the sharp shape of like the yeah, and this is
• 1:36:09
  that Kill Care in Ohio, which is an awesome fucking track.
• 1:36:12
  Drift. That's why they do drift.
• 1:36:13
  Indy, Yeah. Drift Indy.
• 1:36:14
  Yep. A lot of fucking what's?
• 1:36:16
  What's that common right there? It says Sill Truck.
• 1:36:18
  Does he have a truck? Who is he?
• 1:36:20
  Click that guy. Sill Truck.
• 1:36:22
  Sill Truck? Yes, he does.
• 1:36:23
  No way you're going to pull up this random.
• 1:36:25
  Get nuts built this one. Oh, really?
• 1:36:27
  Yeah, it's absolutely insane. Let's see if we can find it.
• 1:36:30
  Or I don't know if they built it.
• 1:36:31
  Yeah, right there. And I was at E Town and saw
• 1:36:36
  another one at E Town and I'm like.
• 1:36:38
  Yeah, I feel like I've seen one of these before other than
• 1:36:40
  yours, but I don't know, maybe I'm just thinking.
• 1:36:42
  Drifting is weird man because just when I thought like oh dude
• 1:36:45
  I don't never really seen this before boom you have.
• 1:36:48
  I want to build one of these so bad one.
• 1:36:50
  Day. Yeah, because I was like, man,
• 1:36:52
  pit card. Yeah.
• 1:36:53
  Like you don't you just throw it in.
• 1:36:55
  I mean, it's the beauties of a hatch minus the fucking ugliness
• 1:36:57
  of a hatch. You know who?
• 1:36:58
  Wanted to do 1 Ethan. Ethan wanted to build 1.
• 1:37:00
  Well, he's a fabricator, yeah. I remember I've known Ethan from
• 1:37:04
  everywhere but like, I don't know him in that same right.
• 1:37:06
  Yeah, because he he was going around with what's his face
• 1:37:10
  during Formula Drift. It's like Ethan Aris or
• 1:37:13
  something. Or Lazarus.
• 1:37:15
  Lazarus OK. Yeah, yeah, what the fuck?
• 1:37:17
  Oh my God, is he with Stoneback? No, he knows Stoneback, but
• 1:37:22
  yeah. I feel like we all know Stone.
• 1:37:24
  We all know the person I'm talking about too.
• 1:37:25
  But he hasn't. He was a fabricator for the long
• 1:37:29
  time 100. Drifters Flyer in 2014.
• 1:37:31
  And then he moved actually down, probably.
• 1:37:33
  Where? Wait, get nuts is where?
• 1:37:35
  In Vegas. Vegas.
• 1:37:36
  Yeah, he moved. Hey, are you driving Tony's car
• 1:37:38
  right there? Yeah, FC, and that's Josh
• 1:37:42
  Berlow. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:37:43
  That's the KA car. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:37:45
  Who just Wes bought that or something?
• 1:37:46
  I don't know who bought that car, but I remember.
• 1:37:48
  He just posted that Wes bought his car and he got the ride in
• 1:37:51
  it for the first time. It was just last weekend.
• 1:37:53
  This is a hard flyer for 2014. Yeah, this.
• 1:37:57
  Is nice. This is a great flyer.
• 1:37:58
  Yeah, 150 is gas. What the fuck?
• 1:38:03
  Two days, that's great. We won't talk about.
• 1:38:05
  It yeah, that is. It's not the same price, but
• 1:38:08
  it's still worth the money. Dude, I even liked when that
• 1:38:11
  Mustang was drifting. Like it takes me back to the
• 1:38:13
  yeah. Bon Bon used to come a lot.
• 1:38:15
  I come a lot. Yeah, I used to come a lot.
• 1:38:18
  That's what he lived locally and he used to attend often, yeah.
• 1:38:21
  There we go. But I'm saying like.
• 1:38:23
  Like stone back's on here like bro.
• 1:38:25
  It seems like the FD scene back then was a lot more personal,
• 1:38:30
  personable, like within the drivers we all.
• 1:38:33
  Knew each other through doing all the.
• 1:38:34
  Different all the other norms. A little cheap.
• 1:38:37
  Yeah, like I would say, well. Actually, there probably was
• 1:38:40
  enough transparency to know how much it cost.
• 1:38:43
  It still seemed a little cheaper than right now.
• 1:38:46
  It seems like you need to cut off like a few toes.
• 1:38:49
  Yeah, you got to sell body parts to like and like.
• 1:38:51
  Donate Is it still doable? Yeah.
• 1:38:53
  I mean, is it three or four years ago, like Jonathan Hurst
• 1:38:57
  said, he spent like 50 grand, which is on the low end because
• 1:39:00
  he's not like, not paying his guys or paying for the flight.
• 1:39:03
  Yeah, Tommy Lemare just spent like 150 last year to win the
• 1:39:06
  championship. Like, I don't know.
• 1:39:08
  That's expensive. Do you guys think that that's?
• 1:39:11
  No, that's not. Achievable.
• 1:39:13
  What the fuck are we doing here? Thank you for saying it.
• 1:39:16
  What? How?
• 1:39:17
  Do you? I did FD.
• 1:39:19
  You didn't even know that. Oh my gosh, I won it all.
• 1:39:20
  I've liked the fucking big championship, trophies, all that
• 1:39:22
  shit and you, multiple cars still here.
• 1:39:25
  I'm just a regular. Guy.
• 1:39:26
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like, never did I think that
• 1:39:29
  I was going to get into drifting and I could make it all the way
• 1:39:32
  to the top and do it. When I got my pro license, I was
• 1:39:34
  like, I have to do pro and I'm going to do pro.
• 1:39:36
  And then they're like pro 2's coming out And I was like, I'm
• 1:39:38
  going to do that bitch ass shit. And then I'm like texting Jeff
• 1:39:40
  on the way to the vent. Hey, you can do this pro two
• 1:39:42
  thing. He's like, if you do it, I'll do
• 1:39:43
  it. OK, let's do it.
• 1:39:45
  You know, because there's no tire roll.
• 1:39:46
  So I'm running a 28535123 S Achilles.
• 1:39:49
  Those are $70 a piece mounted and disposed of at the track.
• 1:39:53
  Yes, like I'm going to do it. And then I can drive pro
• 1:39:55
  practice and Pro 2 practice. I could have 40 laps before I
• 1:40:00
  even turn the qualifying lap. Like it was just.
• 1:40:02
  Kind of what it sounds like now, even with like the the small
• 1:40:04
  competitions they got going on, like one of our techs here was
• 1:40:08
  like, yeah, I never tanned them before.
• 1:40:09
  I'm going to do that competition down at Raceway Park and learn
• 1:40:12
  how I was like, what that's. Not even that big of a.
• 1:40:14
  If you think about it, that's not really he's.
• 1:40:15
  Not the first person that I heard say that either.
• 1:40:17
  I'm like, oh, so people are just doing these comps now just well,
• 1:40:20
  we're. FD licensed drivers.
• 1:40:21
  You know, I've been doing pro AMS with Stonebach since 2000
• 1:40:24
  and. Nine different situation.
• 1:40:26
  But so by the time we both took that jump in 14, yeah, that's
• 1:40:29
  fourteen. It was in like he got he got the
• 1:40:33
  pro rookie of the year that year, but I was like a little
• 1:40:35
  bit home in pro points because we'd already signed up like in
• 1:40:38
  January sign up and you pay everything.
• 1:40:40
  And then Pro 2 came out and I was like, damn.
• 1:40:42
  Like I logged, I logged in and I was like, can I just like do it
• 1:40:45
  day off because they don't lock it down like every Wednesday I
• 1:40:48
  would text them, are you going to do it this round?
• 1:40:49
  Like I just got paid. I can do it.
• 1:40:51
  I'm like, yeah, I'll do it if you do it.
• 1:40:52
  OK. Yeah.
• 1:40:54
  That's like literally how it was and it's how do we, I think you
• 1:40:59
  should get into drifting to enjoy drifting.
• 1:41:01
  I didn't ever know I was going to do this.
• 1:41:03
  I had some support. I still paid the most amount I
• 1:41:05
  ever paid to do drifting. But like the way how do you
• 1:41:10
  curve your path to where you're going to be satisfied?
• 1:41:12
  I don't fucking know. Like you do.
• 1:41:13
  I've never done a good life. You've done a bunch of 20.
• 1:41:16
  Yeah, I I think that is definitely an issue with
• 1:41:20
  drifting. There is no clear path to
• 1:41:22
  success. I think the only way to rate
• 1:41:25
  success for a drift weekend is if the car is still car shaped
• 1:41:29
  so. That's that's what I'm talking
• 1:41:31
  about, you know. For me, that's what, you know,
• 1:41:33
  we were talking on the way up. It's like, how how do I decide
• 1:41:37
  if I'm even getting better at this?
• 1:41:39
  And I was like, well, I only had to paint my car once this year.
• 1:41:43
  So yeah. I.
• 1:41:45
  Everyone's different. Yeah, I was going to say lately
• 1:41:48
  I've been judging if I did had a better year.
• 1:41:50
  As if I like learned something new like about the driving like,
• 1:41:56
  oh, now I can now I want the car to do this.
• 1:41:59
  I'm going to learn about suspension and why it does this
• 1:42:03
  or now I want the car to do that.
• 1:42:04
  I'm going to have to like I'm, I'm somebody where if the car's
• 1:42:07
  not doing something, I will fucking make it do it.
• 1:42:11
  Like I'm not going to be like, oh, I need to, I need to like
• 1:42:14
  change my toe out or this that and that 'cause that's the
• 1:42:17
  reason why I'm not pushing out that way.
• 1:42:19
  I will try to adapt. That's fair.
• 1:42:21
  Now I know that doesn't work all the time.
• 1:42:24
  It's like you're going to just be forcing like a square into a
• 1:42:27
  circle. But.
• 1:42:29
  Like Jimmy said, like try something else.
• 1:42:30
  Yeah. And like you, you have to be
• 1:42:33
  given that advice by someone you trust.
• 1:42:35
  And I'm going to walk up to you at the track and it's your first
• 1:42:38
  retailer. I'm going to tell you I'm an FT
• 1:42:39
  champion. You better fucking adjust your
• 1:42:41
  tail. I'm like, who the fuck is this
• 1:42:42
  cocky FT champion? Like it's only Pro 2, bro.
• 1:42:45
  But like, I don't need to carry that because if, if I'm going to
• 1:42:50
  offer my advice as just a participant, like shouldn't you
• 1:42:53
  take that? And I think that's what drifting
• 1:42:55
  has over any other racing type is that we're going to share the
• 1:42:57
  secrets because we're just there to have fun.
• 1:43:00
  Like you're not going to do it in drag racing.
• 1:43:01
  You're not going to do it in circle track racing or Rd.
• 1:43:03
  racing. Like you keep secrets.
• 1:43:05
  You don't share your tools. Yeah, see you 2nd place loser.
• 1:43:08
  Yeah, like there is like I. Remember his name?
• 1:43:10
  Miro. Yes, Miro.
• 1:43:12
  Ethan. Where is he, Ethan?
• 1:43:14
  He did help him. That's really.
• 1:43:16
  Yeah, Ethan was was helping him out.
• 1:43:19
  He had. He was he doing Pro 2 or pro 1 I
• 1:43:21
  don't remember but. He did pro one.
• 1:43:23
  OK, It was called pro, but yeah, it's still called pro.
• 1:43:25
  Yeah, but yeah, he did. That's.
• 1:43:27
  How he met everyone. He did lots of DMCC.
• 1:43:30
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, all the. Friends.
• 1:43:31
  And he fucking did all the fabrication work over here for
• 1:43:33
  like years. Oh cool.
• 1:43:35
  Yeah. Like he was the one that you
• 1:43:36
  would go to get everything done. So he was like fucking 10
• 1:43:40
  minutes away from here. Cool.
• 1:43:41
  And he moved to Vegas and we're like, fuck.
• 1:43:44
  And he was the most chillest guy and he wouldn't.
• 1:43:46
  His head never got big at all, like he was so humble it was
• 1:43:49
  insane. Yeah, he was a cool guy.
• 1:43:51
  He's I guess he's still in because I don't know if he's
• 1:43:52
  doing car stuff. Bald is all get out.
• 1:43:54
  Yeah. Pale is Casper.
• 1:43:56
  I'm glad that you are also still humble because the fact that we
• 1:43:59
  didn't know that you were pro or whatever is.
• 1:44:03
  I love it. You were.
• 1:44:03
  Like wait, what? Because like, I don't know,
• 1:44:07
  would that change me if I was there?
• 1:44:09
  Probably. Like I would definitely.
• 1:44:11
  I would be so stressed about driving.
• 1:44:13
  I would be caring about a lot more other things.
• 1:44:16
  Like it would take everything up a notch, I think, and then
• 1:44:19
  people would probably get sick of it because the people that
• 1:44:22
  love. Drifting even after doing pros
• 1:44:25
  like even Nick Delesio like he's been in it for a.
• 1:44:28
  Lot longer than me, you know. Nick Delicious, like how
• 1:44:31
  drifting's still here. Like he stopped for a couple
• 1:44:33
  years, maybe 4, maybe 5, but like drifting's still here and
• 1:44:36
  it's just as good. The people that still love
• 1:44:39
  drifting and weren't at it for the cash grab ends up it's not.
• 1:44:42
  There's no you can't. There's no cash.
• 1:44:44
  You can't. Knock that person for not still
• 1:44:46
  loving it even at whatever capacity, like 'cause when I
• 1:44:49
  sold the truck 40 to help fund the RX8 build, I don't know why
• 1:44:52
  I did that. I bought the KA car and the KA
• 1:44:55
  car I had watched drifting for the first time ever at Old
• 1:44:59
  Dominion Speedway in Manassas. My brother was working like
• 1:45:03
  security. That was his summer job.
• 1:45:04
  He would work security and, you know, he played football.
• 1:45:07
  He was a big guy and. He called me.
• 1:45:09
  He's. Got a loud voice.
• 1:45:10
  He'd be good. That's true.
• 1:45:11
  He's got the loudest voice I've ever heard out of it.
• 1:45:13
  You are. You sure if you want to hear
• 1:45:16
  not. Work.
• 1:45:17
  Not right now, no. Yeah, no, you.
• 1:45:19
  Have no idea. He was like, you got to steal
• 1:45:21
  mom's car. Like they're drifting and I was
• 1:45:22
  like when they're sliding around, he's.
• 1:45:24
  Got to steal mom's car. Because he had the car, Because
• 1:45:26
  he had the job. Like, I was just at home playing
• 1:45:28
  PlayStation Two or something, and I remember showing up and my
• 1:45:31
  car is bouncing off the wall. And I was like, holy shit, this
• 1:45:33
  is awesome. And I bought that car almost 10
• 1:45:35
  years later, and that's the car I've had for 12 years now.
• 1:45:38
  So it's like a wild fucking time.
• 1:45:40
  And that was AUS Drift event that that car was driving at.
• 1:45:42
  And I'll be at AUS drift event next weekend.
• 1:45:45
  Like, they're still around. Yeah.
• 1:45:47
  US drift really 'cause I think US drift does Richmond, Richmond
• 1:45:51
  now and they do the old layout. No idea.
• 1:45:54
  From the organization that it was not to be named, but yeah,
• 1:45:58
  they run like a Mahon style layout and they have a comp
• 1:46:01
  there. Reese was competing there.
• 1:46:03
  Formula Drift. Judge Reese was competing in US
• 1:46:08
  drift at Richmond and it looked like a blast, dude.
• 1:46:11
  It's so good. And that's like another get your
• 1:46:14
  toes wet type of vent like, oh, it just looks too easy or
• 1:46:16
  something like like go there. It's fun trying.
• 1:46:19
  I'm trying to recruit him but like you have to like.
• 1:46:21
  Here we go. Have a car that's like almost
• 1:46:23
  good enough. Like you can't just have a car
• 1:46:25
  that can only do big tracks. Like that's some lame shit.
• 1:46:27
  Like have a car that's variable to do whatever, but that's a
• 1:46:30
  barrier to entry. That's like almost, if you've
• 1:46:32
  heard of Langley in Hampton Roads, Virginia, like that they
• 1:46:36
  pull from the same talent pool where it's like not too chaotic
• 1:46:40
  layout, but not top of third gear stuff.
• 1:46:42
  Like you can get through third a little bit, but Richmond you can
• 1:46:44
  like that's where you practice backeys.
• 1:46:47
  Like there's so much usable space to do it, but then there's
• 1:46:50
  technical stuff that opens up the big stuff and it's just
• 1:46:52
  completely aligned with people. It's so sick.
• 1:46:55
  So there's a 2 date next weekend.
• 1:46:57
  That's the one that I want to do just cuz I want to work on my
• 1:47:01
  like. I like the proximity side of
• 1:47:03
  stuff. Like if there are zones I like
• 1:47:07
  driving like you. You obviously feel super suped
• 1:47:09
  when you hit like that right line through a track.
• 1:47:12
  Are you going to hear the tire smoke just right?
• 1:47:14
  Yep, or or you just like after the flick and after you set
• 1:47:18
  yourself up for that corner and you just floored when you know
• 1:47:22
  you're set up right? Like without doing.
• 1:47:24
  A correction in it. I love that there's a video of
• 1:47:27
  Chelsea D'onofa like hitting front track and he moves the
• 1:47:30
  wheel like maybe an inch after every corner, like it's set
• 1:47:35
  perfectly. So I don't know, I've been
• 1:47:37
  recently a more fan of that. So that's where Frankie thinks I
• 1:47:41
  like comps and but I really don't like I just.
• 1:47:44
  Well, it seems like you want to have a perspective how people
• 1:47:48
  are seeing you do it. And I'm a big like, I don't want
• 1:47:51
  to make a correction on the wheel.
• 1:47:52
  I want to do it with throttle or like left a brake to like set my
• 1:47:54
  line. And it's not like, oh, that's
• 1:47:57
  transferred from, you know, being critiqued by the best or
• 1:47:59
  whatever. Like, I think that's just what I
• 1:48:01
  want to see. Yeah, I just want it to be right
• 1:48:03
  where I want it to be and know that I put it there.
• 1:48:06
  Yeah, like that is sick. And you should do that next year
• 1:48:10
  anyway because you have the Z now.
• 1:48:11
  Wait, which one? I don't know, but we need to get
• 1:48:13
  you behind the car I. Don't want to do a comp?
• 1:48:15
  Yes, you should. It's not even really a comp,
• 1:48:17
  it's like a. Dude, I'll get bullied in there.
• 1:48:19
  You. Win a steering wheel.
• 1:48:20
  You're not. That's not even.
• 1:48:21
  You're not fighting for money. Nobody there.
• 1:48:23
  Fighting the steering wheel there.
• 1:48:24
  Yes. You break the steering wheel,
• 1:48:26
  then you have to put the new one on.
• 1:48:27
  No, but it's like a fun time. I mean, even the the when we
• 1:48:30
  took the Z out, I was like, all right, here we go.
• 1:48:32
  I haven't drifted in a while and I don't remember drifting.
• 1:48:35
  The bumper's on or off it then? They were on.
• 1:48:38
  OK, yeah, have a lap, apparently.
• 1:48:39
  Oh no. The front bumper.
• 1:48:41
  These just like if you have an aftermarket bumper, they just
• 1:48:43
  drag. The ass oh, the front bumper was
• 1:48:44
  already broken. The car was crashed.
• 1:48:45
  That's how we got it for like the price we got it for.
• 1:48:47
  But the rear one was on. I was like, I'd like to keep
• 1:48:49
  everything on. And then like the transition in
• 1:48:51
  the middle of the, the, what do you call it, the fucking yeah.
• 1:48:54
  It's gotten wider sound in it. Yeah, the second I hit that
• 1:48:57
  thing, the bumper's just off. I was like, come on, dude did.
• 1:48:59
  It dude, did you fully compress the full unload?
• 1:49:01
  Full compresses the corner and then it's lifting.
• 1:49:03
  I was like, OK, and then the hairpin took it, you know, that
• 1:49:07
  was a final bit. But anyway, got in the car,
• 1:49:09
  drifted it totally fine. I was like, OK, I get why people
• 1:49:11
  buy these cars. Yes, I recommend that to any
• 1:49:13
  driver or any newbie. How do I get into this by Z?
• 1:49:16
  Yeah, it's like and that just has the GK. 350Z not AZ 31.
• 1:49:21
  Yeah, not AZ 31. You got to stop.
• 1:49:23
  With this, is that what you drive?
• 1:49:24
  What is? The Fly.
• 1:49:25
  Started. He has a blue car.
• 1:49:27
  He's like, they're good cars. I'm like.
• 1:49:29
  I don't know, man Blue. Cars, plural.
• 1:49:35
  Maybe to like cruise around? In I like the Z31 when it's like
• 1:49:38
  turbo and I can. My Z31 was pretty good, it made
• 1:49:42
  about 400 horsepower. I had a Pathfinder 3 three and
• 1:49:46
  AT3T4 turbo on it and it it's a. 400 horsepower, yeah.
• 1:49:51
  And it was like a body in white SCCA car.
• 1:49:53
  It was it was an IMSA Pro car. So I had Cajun.
• 1:49:57
  All that stuff was already in it.
• 1:49:58
  So my I got it from my dad when I was, I don't know, like 18.
• 1:50:02
  And the Dan was like, you should go drifting.
• 1:50:05
  And I literally took a road race car drifting for the first time.
• 1:50:07
  Didn't work out that well. No, I spent a lot of a lot of
• 1:50:10
  time in the mud that weekend. Are the engine that comes in
• 1:50:14
  that? Is that a VG like an old VG?
• 1:50:15
  OK. They originally came with three
• 1:50:17
  liter. Mine was out of a Pathfinder so
• 1:50:19
  it was a 3/3. Is it a single Cam?
• 1:50:22
  It is twin Cam. Yeah, OK.
• 1:50:24
  I thought you meant Pathfinder like 3 three final drive just
• 1:50:27
  throwing out gear success. I was like 3, three final drive
• 1:50:31
  fucking low holy shit. But I never seen one of those.
• 1:50:38
  Like how fast were the turbo ones?
• 1:50:41
  It scooted, it was fine. Like 4. 100 horsepower is.
• 1:50:43
  Car was, yeah, well, yours was a swapped engine pretty much,
• 1:50:46
  right? Yeah.
• 1:50:46
  So it's different, but like the turbo, I never see the turbo
• 1:50:49
  ones. I always see the NA ones and I'm
• 1:50:50
  like these are boring. Do people wreck the turbo ones?
• 1:50:53
  I don't know if they maybe they didn't make that many of them.
• 1:50:56
  I don't know. I think they were hard to work
• 1:50:58
  on and people didn't they? They didn't keep them.
• 1:51:01
  Same thing with Z30. Two hey, this thing sucks and
• 1:51:04
  I'm just gonna let it sit until I throw it away.
• 1:51:06
  I think that's why I'm to those guys.
• 1:51:07
  Also, what's happening to Z30 twos?
• 1:51:09
  Yeah, it's so rare to see one of those things.
• 1:51:10
  It's like, obviously. Even though now that I'm out of
• 1:51:13
  podcast, obviously a publicly Z32 best car.
• 1:51:16
  I kind of agree with that. Everyone's like, Oh no super.
• 1:51:18
  I'm like, no, I've driven both a cool.
• 1:51:21
  Z32 that's fast as fuck. That you don't have to work on.
• 1:51:25
  Violent fun. Kinda would be cooler than a
• 1:51:27
  super. Z30 Lambo headlights, Yeah,
• 1:51:30
  headlight for headlight. The Z 32 looks sick.
• 1:51:32
  The interior Z32. Yeah, yeah, they're.
• 1:51:35
  Great cars. I think they're cool too.
• 1:51:37
  Not for drifting. What's not for drifting?
• 1:51:39
  Yeah, this. Is an issue that my buddy
• 1:51:41
  injectors. We had to do injectors on this
• 1:51:43
  all. The fucking vacuum line.
• 1:51:44
  Horrible, awful. It was horrible time, but it was
• 1:51:48
  fine after that, like for a while.
• 1:51:50
  Yeah, well, it's a VG, so. It's they're tough.
• 1:51:53
  Yeah, I love that engine. We used to die grind like the
• 1:51:56
  back of the intakes to get the injectors off of that taking the
• 1:51:59
  intake off. Oh yeah, yeah, it's like.
• 1:52:01
  We're not taking this intake off because.
• 1:52:02
  Every all the vacuum lights are there.
• 1:52:05
  So we would die grind that. Out.
• 1:52:06
  That was one of the first cars I really worked on too, because my
• 1:52:08
  buddy was addicted to buying those things.
• 1:52:10
  I was like, why are you dying to?
• 1:52:11
  Do. Yeah, like why are you doing
• 1:52:13
  this to yourself? He.
• 1:52:15
  Said. Lots too, like NA1.
• 1:52:16
  I'm like NA, like why are we doing this?
• 1:52:18
  Like let's just go get in the Eclipse.
• 1:52:19
  It's got fucking 350 horsepower. That thing's sick.
• 1:52:23
  And you can. Work on it.
• 1:52:24
  NA is still they're all right. We had a buddy that drifted one
• 1:52:28
  of those those. Things are boats.
• 1:52:29
  Malone They had a long wheelbase, too.
• 1:52:31
  They did. The 2 + 2 was very long.
• 1:52:34
  It was huge, the. Front suspension was a mistake
• 1:52:37
  though. Oh yeah, that's like R30.
• 1:52:39
  Yeah. 2 GTR types. Rear suffering money.
• 1:52:43
  Same. Yeah, basically the same, yeah.
• 1:52:46
  But they but the front that's good, they missed.
• 1:52:49
  It's like a double wishbone, but not a wishbone.
• 1:52:51
  Yeah, it's awful. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:52:52
  Well, go back to the RX8 when we were trying to make a plan of
• 1:52:56
  attack to like do FD, it was like he had cars that he needed
• 1:53:00
  to do swap kits for. So we had like E30 E 36, E 46,
• 1:53:05
  RX 8, and Chelsea just drove the one for Bergenholtz.
• 1:53:07
  And I was like, I mean, the RX8's pretty sick.
• 1:53:10
  Yeah, just do an arc tape. I love that car as a car.
• 1:53:12
  I love that car. Well, the wheelbase really and
• 1:53:15
  front steer car. So like, not that I thought
• 1:53:17
  about that. Like it was so planted that I
• 1:53:21
  you didn't have to do much adjustment and it fucking made
• 1:53:23
  like 880 horsepower to the wheels like.
• 1:53:26
  I'm going to have to do that. So like, I mean, it was a lot of
• 1:53:30
  work, but I wrecked it a lot and it did solid, but it was it was
• 1:53:35
  a lot to build. It wasn't just a regular car.
• 1:53:37
  I would never recommend one, but we made that one pretty solid.
• 1:53:40
  I would figure out some way that isn't an FD rack.
• 1:53:43
  Lately I can't. Probably gonna.
• 1:53:45
  Have to do something, I can tell you that.
• 1:53:47
  No the so why is that makes a kit for it and use the E46 rack.
• 1:53:51
  Well, you played everything. Can you keep the Rotary and do
• 1:53:53
  all that or do you knew you would fucking have AV 8?
• 1:53:56
  I don't want the V. Eight to be easier with the
• 1:53:59
  Wispap kit because you would put a smaller rack in it you would
• 1:54:02
  have to change your rack if you change your engine because the
• 1:54:05
  rack is this ginormous electric like if you see an S550 on the
• 1:54:08
  rack there's like a huge motor right offset from the crank so
• 1:54:12
  we knew right away that wasn't going to work and we're just
• 1:54:14
  like we kind of measured and John has a his FD right next to
• 1:54:16
  it like we'll just get one of these yeah that's.
• 1:54:18
  What we did E46 rack is nice then I could buy new ones if
• 1:54:23
  they break. I just want one with A1J really
• 1:54:27
  bad. The engine that's in the yellow
• 1:54:28
  car. I'm on a Rotary in that shit.
• 1:54:30
  Yeah, but I can work on the one. Mic Man.
• 1:54:32
  I know I was the. Sickest person that fucking FD.
• 1:54:35
  I'm sorry you. Gotta be scared about.
• 1:54:37
  I saw him drive at town like. Oh, I was there, 13.
• 1:54:41
  Yeah, I was there. I was definitely.
• 1:54:42
  There, Yeah, we passed him on like the Parkway and I'm like,
• 1:54:44
  that's fucking mad. Mike's rig like it's.
• 1:54:46
  So crazy. That was when it was you go to
• 1:54:48
  wall, then you drive up to E town for pro bro down.
• 1:54:51
  Dude, those days were the best days ever.
• 1:54:53
  It was like, OK, this was fun, but tomorrow's going to be way
• 1:54:55
  sicker. Yeah.
• 1:54:56
  I agree. Seeing Mad Mike.
• 1:54:58
  Yeah. And then him and I saw Angela
• 1:55:00
  drive the car there. Yeah, because Angela also drove
• 1:55:02
  his that had the Renaissance library and all that stuff.
• 1:55:04
  I missed that. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:55:06
  But dude, the mad Mike's car. I guess there's only like 4 RX
• 1:55:09
  eights in like pro drifting, yeah.
• 1:55:11
  I'm trying to think of the even if I know and why's that?
• 1:55:14
  Made a kit for it. Yeah.
• 1:55:16
  And all it takes is one well. And it's the same as the NC
• 1:55:19
  Miata. Subtrank Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:55:21
  So that's why. Interesting NC Miata is a cool
• 1:55:24
  car too. I do love the NC Miata shout out
• 1:55:26
  Eric Ryan it's. Kind of becoming my favorite
• 1:55:28
  Miata. I think the NC.
• 1:55:30
  I don't know why. I think you guys would think
• 1:55:32
  right in them. I'm still a little.
• 1:55:33
  Tall. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:55:34
  But they are fun. They're great shifting cars.
• 1:55:36
  Yeah. And I'm like, this car is kind
• 1:55:37
  of, it feels very nice. Yeah.
• 1:55:39
  Like it's a nice newer car. That's true.
• 1:55:42
  Like it's honestly. Cool level.
• 1:55:44
  Yeah, not the fucking. There's two versions, right?
• 1:55:47
  Not the facelift one with this happy face.
• 1:55:49
  No, I'm good on that. I.
• 1:55:50
  Don't care, all of that shit's going to get changed anyway.
• 1:55:52
  Like the the other. One should be in the movie Cars.
• 1:55:54
  Yeah, it literally looks like that Same thing with the RX8.
• 1:55:57
  They did the second generation of RX8 and it looked like 9.
• 1:55:59
  Yeah, but everything else was perfect.
• 1:56:01
  On the it's the same rear, just LED lights.
• 1:56:03
  I like the RXA it has puffy fenders.
• 1:56:06
  Looks like AI, love that car. It looks like it's supposed to
• 1:56:09
  be an open wheel car and it's like what the fuck am I looking
• 1:56:11
  at? The RX8 is so sick.
• 1:56:13
  Put an exhaust on an RX8 and go through a tunnel.
• 1:56:15
  That's going to be your favorite car for a rescue.
• 1:56:17
  Rev so much. I had a friend shit in 2004 that
• 1:56:20
  worked for Mazda in Chantilly area and he was doing the car
• 1:56:25
  show stuff. And through that he got a the
• 1:56:28
  first ever Greti kit. Yeah, the first ever Grady kid.
• 1:56:32
  And so my brother and I like had to figure out how to put it on
• 1:56:35
  with like no instructions. And I had another friend that
• 1:56:38
  bought the car once the dude was done with the car show stuff and
• 1:56:40
  I got to drift it and I was like, all right, hold on, like
• 1:56:43
  I'm going to figure this out, but it sounds cool with shit.
• 1:56:45
  And so I drove one that was just a turbo show car that was like
• 1:56:48
  really sick. Dude, we we were like we were on
• 1:56:51
  the tail end of that like the the kits were hard to get and
• 1:56:54
  then you have to custom make your kid and then the 2nd Gen.
• 1:56:56
  RX8 the Renaissance month. Like they didn't really they.
• 1:56:59
  Did a second version of it, yeah.
• 1:57:01
  Yeah, I was like, God damn it, man.
• 1:57:03
  I just want a Grady turbo kit on this car.
• 1:57:05
  It would be sick. Yep.
• 1:57:06
  I mean, other people had after that, but it's yeah, the
• 1:57:09
  Renaissance were killed because of the emission stuff.
• 1:57:12
  They had to. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:57:14
  Like they're not bad except for all the emission stuff killed
• 1:57:17
  them. Yeah, if they got rid of all
• 1:57:18
  that shit, it would probably be a pretty good engine.
• 1:57:20
  But like, they can't sell them like that, right?
• 1:57:22
  Rotaries aren't clean burning cars, no.
• 1:57:25
  But they do burn. They burn real good dude.
• 1:57:28
  Like Greg had one that was oh I remember semi ported like goopy
• 1:57:34
  built in shit. It was the slowest car ever but
• 1:57:37
  the best sounding. My neighbors, they're.
• 1:57:39
  Always the best. Sounding car, Did it have like a
• 1:57:41
  lope to it? Yeah, it's like blah, blah,
• 1:57:44
  blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:57:45
  Blah, I feel like if I have anything on a bucket list it's
• 1:57:47
  to build one of those one day. Literally.
• 1:57:49
  Like, that's probably the only thing that I actually like.
• 1:57:52
  If I don't get to do that, I'm going to be kind of bummed out.
• 1:57:54
  You really just got to get a little bucket too.
• 1:57:56
  Yeah, the bucket. They build them all on buckets.
• 1:57:58
  But the rotors on it stack it just stack them up.
• 1:58:01
  I hadn't heard like an amazing one until hyper fast when Elsie
• 1:58:04
  first brought his super out and he like passed me in the pit and
• 1:58:07
  I was like. I get it.
• 1:58:09
  Yeah, that thing sounds good, dude.
• 1:58:10
  But remember when fucking Mad Mike would start the four rotor
• 1:58:13
  or whatever in the in the pits and it'd be like the loudest
• 1:58:16
  thing ever? Like you just know.
• 1:58:19
  You know who did it first was. It someone else.
• 1:58:21
  Wilkerson drove the BMI 1 Brian Wilkerson yeah yeah, yeah, drove
• 1:58:25
  for it was Sarah Burgess and her husband.
• 1:58:27
  It was some crazy Rotary one that they're from Australia.
• 1:58:31
  She was campaigning the car in XDC.
• 1:58:33
  Wilkerson had a pro license 'cause he drove the zombie car
• 1:58:36
  in probably 2007 eight and then he drove that car and 1011 I
• 1:58:41
  think for that that company and OK, it was like just flat Gray
• 1:58:44
  and it was OK, insane loud. Maybe that's the one I'm.
• 1:58:47
  Thinking of actually no, but that's he.
• 1:58:49
  Drove it. A wall.
• 1:58:49
  He drove it. That's too early.
• 1:58:51
  Like what? What year did he stop driving
• 1:58:52
  that? 11 or 12?
• 1:58:55
  Oh, maybe it was that. Yeah.
• 1:58:57
  'Cause I I already done before with XTC.
• 1:59:00
  So that was at least 2009 and he drove that car after that.
• 1:59:03
  Can you try to find that car, Malcolm?
• 1:59:04
  How would we find this search? Like BMI RX8 drift or Sarah
• 1:59:07
  Burgess, it's. Definitely that car dude I I
• 1:59:09
  have a video or there's a photo. Of this cool looking at all yeah
• 1:59:12
  boom. But it sounded sick.
• 1:59:15
  Pull it up. Yeah.
• 1:59:17
  OK. And yeah, the, I think this one
• 1:59:19
  was kind of what you remember. That's that's Seattle.
• 1:59:22
  That was my favorite track. I think it was this car that I
• 1:59:24
  remember I, I, I had a video like on my fucking envy or
• 1:59:27
  whatever the fuck I had. Chelsea, Chelsea or June Mang?
• 1:59:29
  Can't tell. Yeah dude, that shit was that
• 1:59:32
  was that was a 4 runner or what was it?
• 1:59:35
  I remember it had a slide throttle because a throttle
• 1:59:37
  plate would bend. So it had a a slide throttle for
• 1:59:43
  the IT VS. Look at that engine Bay.
• 1:59:45
  Now see if you can find what engine Bay or something.
• 1:59:47
  What the hell am I looking? At like a slide throttle I.
• 1:59:50
  Remember that car? Yeah, it had a big ass air
• 1:59:52
  filter right on top of that, Yeah.
• 1:59:54
  World's only four rotor RX8. That's the one I remember.
• 1:59:58
  Hearing oh look, Brian Wilkinson right out to drive.
• 2:00:01
  Dude, this is not making shut up the.
• 2:00:03
  Car was loud it looks. Stuck looking on the outside
• 2:00:06
  like that. Looks like a normal RX8.
• 2:00:08
  Malcolm what? What did you, Angelo?
• 2:00:10
  Go to When you went to FD you always bring this up. 13.
• 2:00:17
  OK, so you might not have seen that that wall.
• 2:00:19
  Yeah. Yeah, 13.
• 2:00:22
  I was there with Chelsea. Click click Mad Mike's car right
• 2:00:25
  up there on the right. The Red Bull one.
• 2:00:26
  Bro y'all come on man. That's Vegas.
• 2:00:30
  That. That's it dude.
• 2:00:31
  That's that's what I want right there with A1J though.
• 2:00:34
  Dude, that was it man. That looks great on some
• 2:00:38
  Falcons. God damn.
• 2:00:40
  Like, yeah, drifting should have never.
• 2:00:42
  Yeah, look at the metal militia fucking on the skirt.
• 2:00:45
  I know dude. The metal militia should erase
• 2:00:47
  it there. Why is it so high?
• 2:00:49
  There you go that. Shit was crazy.
• 2:00:52
  Him and Matt Powers, man like that.
• 2:00:54
  Those were those were the people that got me like into drifting
• 2:00:57
  as far as FD is concerned. Like when I was watching it, I
• 2:01:01
  was like, damn, these cars are sick.
• 2:01:02
  And then all of a sudden it was fucking over right after that.
• 2:01:04
  No offense to anyone. Well, like need, need for speed,
• 2:01:07
  like funded all that. Him and Matt Powers.
• 2:01:09
  Yeah, yeah. It's so sick.
• 2:01:10
  Yeah. Like a video game.
• 2:01:13
  Yeah, dude, everything, everything was.
• 2:01:14
  Dead. I need some money.
• 2:01:16
  The world was a lot. Everything was.
• 2:01:17
  That was perfect, kind of like a speed hunters type deal along
• 2:01:20
  with it. Yeah, yeah.
• 2:01:23
  'Cause that guy, he was a hyper Festus here in Lindberg.
• 2:01:25
  Damn wait Lindberg speed owners that didn't that?
• 2:01:28
  Clicked on recently. Early, early, yeah, that
• 2:01:30
  stopped. Watch the website's down.
• 2:01:32
  No, it's here we go. Fantastic.
• 2:01:36
  OK. And like power powers?
• 2:01:39
  This shit is so sick. Gangster.
• 2:01:42
  The wheels dude, this is like. No shout out.
• 2:01:45
  Hey, James Carver rocks. Let's see.
• 2:01:46
  What are those again? Baz something?
• 2:01:50
  How do you feel about this, Malcolm?
• 2:01:51
  You like this kind of drifting? Yeah, yeah, I like that.
• 2:01:54
  One Yeah, dude, this is like. He still has it and then still
• 2:01:56
  drives it. Oh, he still has his.
• 2:01:57
  Car still, yeah, I mean everything.
• 2:01:59
  It's a new delivery like every year.
• 2:02:01
  But yeah. It's he still drives it.
• 2:02:03
  He took he took a vote a couple years ago to ask what motor to
• 2:02:06
  like put back in it. OK.
• 2:02:08
  Everybody probably said Rotary nowadays.
• 2:02:10
  And he's on cut and Chuck knuckles also.
• 2:02:12
  I remember him like looking. He's like, oh, mine are in like
• 2:02:14
  the same spot. I was like, what?
• 2:02:17
  Bro there's a that is a stretch and 1/2.
• 2:02:20
  In fact, I think that shit is de beating.
• 2:02:22
  He probably never won shit but damn was it the best car there.
• 2:02:26
  Like. Look at die.
• 2:02:27
  Yeah, Die was always a favorite of mine.
• 2:02:29
  Too insane. Yeah.
• 2:02:33
  I used to like wait to see when they posted like undercard
• 2:02:35
  pictures to see like where he had moved stuff and yeah gotten
• 2:02:37
  gripped into it. Like that was the first star I
• 2:02:39
  saw with the anti squat brackets.
• 2:02:43
  That RC just said it's so good. There you go.
• 2:02:45
  Matt Powers, I said Mike earlier.
• 2:02:48
  Yeah, when Matt Powers car look like that, Yeah, go up Malcolm,
• 2:02:51
  that photo right there. If we could just go back to that
• 2:02:55
  era or whatever year that was, dude, that was it.
• 2:02:58
  The fucking crazy body kit. The you're a silicon body kit
• 2:03:01
  like I think. He drove to Long Beach that
• 2:03:02
  year. He definitely drove it when it
• 2:03:04
  was just green. Damn dude.
• 2:03:07
  Yeah, yeah. When his car was just green and
• 2:03:09
  had no sponsors on it, I tell people this, they're like, what
• 2:03:11
  are you talking about? I'm like, yeah, he was an FD.
• 2:03:12
  He had no sponsor. He had a tire sponsor maybe, and
• 2:03:15
  it was just a Kat. T Yeah, now he's LS7 because I
• 2:03:18
  remember how he did all that. And even then, like I've never
• 2:03:22
  been AV eight person, but even then I was like, I don't care
• 2:03:24
  that he has AV 8. This is the coolest car here.
• 2:03:26
  That might be James Dean. Oh Yep, James Dean.
• 2:03:29
  So this is like 2009. Look at the mountains in the
• 2:03:32
  background. Because James Dean only drove a
• 2:03:35
  couple events. He drove Long Beach and maybe
• 2:03:37
  this in Erwindale. Damn dude I forgot about this
• 2:03:42
  RX8. I totally forgot about this RX8
• 2:03:45
  that's. James showed a good chase.
• 2:03:47
  Of course he did. Fucking James Dean.
• 2:03:51
  No, he didn't. Next photo.
• 2:03:54
  Could park a bus in there, but that was what that was like.
• 2:04:00
  What? Oh, look at that tire now.
• 2:04:01
  That's what I'm saying. Like what?
• 2:04:03
  What am I looking at here? He's.
• 2:04:05
  Just hanging around having. Fun.
• 2:04:06
  He's like what the fuck he? Beaded for sure, yeah.
• 2:04:10
  Yeah, that's like he didn't take the drift phone in one class.
• 2:04:14
  Man, he cared. He really cared about how the
• 2:04:16
  car looks and he still does. Like obviously, I mean, I'm sure
• 2:04:19
  the cars have changed over the years, but.
• 2:04:22
  Oh, he ain't AB boy. Wait, is that him?
• 2:04:24
  No, that's not it could be. As usual, here I am jumping in
• 2:04:29
  on the action. Oh, it is him.
• 2:04:31
  Wow. Dude me need mad Mike.
• 2:04:34
  I'm not that good. Needs to come out here.
• 2:04:36
  That thing's probably got strobes and all this cool shit.
• 2:04:39
  Oh yeah, definitely. Yeah, his car had strobes for
• 2:04:41
  sure. I remember that.
• 2:04:43
  Yeah, man, I don't know. That's Mike Essa.
• 2:04:44
  It's fucking Oh yeah right here. No, all the cars were pretty
• 2:04:48
  sick back then. What about now?
• 2:04:49
  Like, how do you guys feel about the FD lineup now and like the
• 2:04:53
  kind of cars they got because I I.
• 2:04:55
  You go to more FD events than I do.
• 2:04:56
  I can't name 1 fucking car. To be honest with you, I didn't.
• 2:04:59
  Nothing catches my eye. I mean I know there's at least
• 2:05:01
  one or two. There was that S15 like 2 years
• 2:05:04
  ago that I thought was pretty. Sick.
• 2:05:05
  Is there a car that I what? Colours.
• 2:05:07
  What colours it? Was green.
• 2:05:08
  It was a Japanese driver, I think from California, was
• 2:05:13
  sponsored by that Japanese from Japan.
• 2:05:15
  Yeah, that. Oh Wataru, that car is a
• 2:05:18
  turquoise. Thing, yeah.
• 2:05:19
  For Jerry now, yeah. He drives.
• 2:05:20
  He's driving Diagos car right now.
• 2:05:22
  Oh really? That's the guy that took over a
• 2:05:23
  Diagos car when he couldn't get back in.
• 2:05:25
  Oh, OK. Yeah.
• 2:05:26
  Yeah. He couldn't get back in.
• 2:05:27
  What? I don't know.
• 2:05:28
  Yeah. What was that story again?
• 2:05:29
  It was. He should have been saying.
• 2:05:31
  Lewis and got turn around. Ice got him right.
• 2:05:33
  That was the thing. Yeah.
• 2:05:34
  Yeah. Yeah, he made a whole post and
• 2:05:35
  everything. It was like, please get me back
• 2:05:37
  into the US, right? Yeah.
• 2:05:40
  But yeah, I don't know dude, I the cars are have like 2000
• 2:05:43
  horsepower now and I don't give a fuck about any of that, but I
• 2:05:47
  just want to see that. It's a wild thing to think of
• 2:05:49
  how to maintain. Like you can't just show up with
• 2:05:51
  your friends at an empty event anymore.
• 2:05:53
  No, yeah. Like you cannot do that, but
• 2:05:55
  that's what I was talking. About earlier I was like.
• 2:05:56
  I mean, not even. You can, you can.
• 2:05:58
  You're not going to be getting the results.
• 2:05:59
  You're not going to be on speed hunters, but like.
• 2:06:01
  Damn, I kind of don't. I don't like.
• 2:06:04
  That he wasn't winning shit either and he's like people.
• 2:06:07
  The car look brought over for style.
• 2:06:09
  Yeah, dude. Like style first dude.
• 2:06:11
  The sponsors love it. You're you're getting the
• 2:06:13
  marketing shit. It's like, fuck everything else,
• 2:06:15
  just make the car cool. Make sure you can compete,
• 2:06:17
  obviously, but I don't know, it's just like that shit's the
• 2:06:22
  entire. Team was like completely
• 2:06:23
  different back then too, like there weren't limitations and
• 2:06:26
  stuff, but with now limitations like you have to make the most,
• 2:06:29
  you have to be like chassis people, you have to have like
• 2:06:32
  you have to have your tuner every lap making sure your
• 2:06:34
  nitrous bottle pressure was the same.
• 2:06:36
  Jesus. Christ.
• 2:06:37
  Like if you're in Salt Lake, you needed to have adjust for the
• 2:06:41
  barometric pressure. Like it's different now.
• 2:06:44
  I don't. Put a KT bed in 400 horsepower
• 2:06:46
  is all I want. I like the the feeling and
• 2:06:50
  emotions I get from looking at those photos.
• 2:06:53
  Yeah, cuz I watch FD now and I'm like.
• 2:06:55
  Straight up, the last five years, no one cares about the
• 2:06:57
  car. The straight smoke.
• 2:06:59
  Maybe I'm biased. I did 2 years for the last two
• 2:07:02
  years I did with Nate Chen as his crew chief and I wanted to
• 2:07:06
  go and see what FD was like. Dan's already done it.
• 2:07:09
  He already told me what I was going to say.
• 2:07:11
  He was right. He's normally right.
• 2:07:12
  Don't tell him that. But I really do like prospec.
• 2:07:17
  I, I do hear what you're saying about pro, but I think prospec
• 2:07:20
  is really good. And I think it's a biggest
• 2:07:24
  problem with prospec is that, you know, when I got brought on
• 2:07:28
  with Nate, he kind of knew what was going on, right?
• 2:07:32
  So we have a fairly good team and we were consistently on
• 2:07:38
  point for practice. We would get 9 laps and I think
• 2:07:42
  that's something that a lot of people don't know about pro spec
• 2:07:45
  or pro drifting. These guys are out doing these
• 2:07:48
  laps, they get maybe a a regular team is getting six to five laps
• 2:07:53
  and they're like, all right, battle in front of us yeah, do
• 2:07:55
  it now. It's wild.
• 2:07:58
  So I think that is one of the things that gives FDA bad rap
• 2:08:02
  because like. The perspective of these pro
• 2:08:04
  drivers barely putting laps together, like you don't know
• 2:08:06
  what it took to get here. Yeah, Yeah.
• 2:08:08
  And then you like when you go, we go to Atlanta and like
• 2:08:11
  everyone's like building their cars at the track and I'm like,
• 2:08:15
  you guys have 5 laps to figure this out.
• 2:08:17
  Yeah, that's, this is not where we work on the car.
• 2:08:20
  So I, I think, I think that really puts a bad taste in
• 2:08:25
  people's mouth when they see it because they only see the
• 2:08:27
  battles, They don't see the practice, they don't see the
• 2:08:29
  laps. And it's something to think
• 2:08:30
  about. In each one of these cars on the
• 2:08:33
  driver's side, there will be a sticker and they count how many
• 2:08:36
  laps. So the next time you go to one
• 2:08:38
  of these pro events, you can actually see how many laps that
• 2:08:41
  car turned that weekend. And there'll be cars there with
• 2:08:44
  eight laps turned on them and they're going home in a trailer.
• 2:08:47
  It's wild. And that's a counter for a lead
• 2:08:49
  and chase runs, so you can't just only have.
• 2:08:52
  How do they get more practice time?
• 2:08:53
  Like how do we it's? Limited.
• 2:08:54
  It's limited 12 laps. For real?
• 2:08:56
  Yeah. Why 12 laps before qualifying
• 2:08:58
  and before the seating bracket So that's why being in the
• 2:09:00
  seating bracket now if you're. Pro pro spec, I don't think they
• 2:09:03
  do that, do they? They still count.
• 2:09:08
  We never. Got 12.
• 2:09:09
  Laps. So I don't understand what the
• 2:09:10
  point of that is. Limit you on tires to try to
• 2:09:13
  make it affordable, but it's. Like Falcon would show up.
• 2:09:16
  Okay. Driver would have 40 laps before
• 2:09:19
  qualifying. So this guy over here tires,
• 2:09:21
  This guy over here is rich. I'm not.
• 2:09:24
  He got way more practice than me.
• 2:09:25
  Okay, I get that. Like you're trying to keep it
• 2:09:28
  fair. And that 12 laps, if you really
• 2:09:30
  are the best, like you should get it down in 12 versus if you
• 2:09:34
  like opened it up for more now like you could say like, oh,
• 2:09:37
  they got 20, I got 5. The whole thing is you can see
• 2:09:40
  that. In pro, it's harder in pro spec
• 2:09:41
  because you don't know if that person you're chasing your first
• 2:09:44
  chase lap is their first lap on their.
• 2:09:46
  Lead and your and your practice is not by yourself.
• 2:09:49
  Your practice is here is tandem. You've been doing this for five
• 2:09:53
  years. Here's the new guy.
• 2:09:54
  He's been doing this. For five months.
• 2:09:56
  For five months and go swing for the fences, boys, Yeah?
• 2:10:01
  It's wild. It really is.
• 2:10:02
  It's the whole thing's ridiculous because it's like,
• 2:10:04
  OK, now you got this crazy car that you build that whatever,
• 2:10:07
  you don't have a lot of money. You can only do 12 laps when
• 2:10:11
  you're at the event. OK, I'm going to go practice
• 2:10:13
  then. So then you go practice and you
• 2:10:14
  realize you don't have money for the tires for the fucking
• 2:10:15
  monster car you just built. So now you can't even really
• 2:10:17
  practice anyway. So now what are we doing?
• 2:10:19
  Like just go to club loose. It's not as bad because you know
• 2:10:22
  that those 12 laps you're going to get, no one's else is going
• 2:10:25
  to get more than that except for the seating bracket.
• 2:10:27
  If you're midpoints and you do the seating bracket and you win,
• 2:10:30
  you'd get what, 74 to? Five more laps or something,
• 2:10:34
  because if. You go to the finals, it's a.
• 2:10:36
  Game of data. That guy that got more laps now
• 2:10:39
  has more data on the track and on the car than you have.
• 2:10:42
  It's pretty. How the tracks change and how
• 2:10:44
  the car needs to be adjusted. Yeah dude, it's not a 350Z
• 2:10:47
  anymore. I.
• 2:10:48
  Was going to say like what if we just limit the power?
• 2:10:50
  I think that would help with a lot of fucking shit.
• 2:10:53
  What chassis though? Like then?
• 2:10:54
  It would. That's why pro spec makes so
• 2:10:56
  much sense, because they're limiting the tire.
• 2:10:58
  And I still think that tire's too big.
• 2:11:00
  What's the limit? OK, 2. 55 everyone runs a 255.
• 2:11:03
  I would rather see pro guys on a 255 and pro spec on A2.
• 2:11:07
  What's the limit with the pro guys?
• 2:11:09
  3:15. Yeah, let's do that. 3:15.
• 2:11:11
  It'd be much more fun to watch. I I agree.
• 2:11:14
  Nido's at 315-4018. Not to mention more affordable,
• 2:11:18
  yeah. Like it's a it's like a super
• 2:11:20
  single like on a semi truck. I.
• 2:11:23
  Know I know a lot of people have a lot of hate for formula drift
• 2:11:26
  and for like that comp style of drifting and I am not a comp
• 2:11:29
  person. Obviously I went there, I did
• 2:11:32
  this with Nate and I, I think he's kind of messed with my head
• 2:11:37
  to the point where like I did LS Fest last year, thinking about
• 2:11:40
  doing some more comp stuff later.
• 2:11:42
  But I think that amount of time they've spent and money they've
• 2:11:50
  spent to get there is super impressive.
• 2:11:52
  And I think that gets overlooked and I think it's crazy.
• 2:11:56
  Giving them six laps is not fair.
• 2:11:58
  No, it's not. No, hell no.
• 2:12:00
  Where's the return? Where's the Where's the part
• 2:12:02
  where you're supposed to enjoy and be happy?
• 2:12:05
  Yeah, that's. That shit's you.
• 2:12:07
  You tell us that. Yeah, Dan, you tell us that.
• 2:12:09
  How Well? No, that I so I I told them the
• 2:12:11
  same thing. Like I stopped in 1515 was my
• 2:12:14
  last year driving pro, but I knew in 16 I was gonna help my
• 2:12:16
  friend Austin drive Pro 2 and I was like, well, I don't get to
• 2:12:20
  go to Long Beach, you know, in the beginning of the year.
• 2:12:22
  And then I was like, Oh, I can just watch it and I can get the
• 2:12:25
  joy of that. But then in Atlanta, I get to go
• 2:12:26
  back and hang out with all my friends.
• 2:12:28
  But then I don't have to go to OSW because prospect like they
• 2:12:31
  all don't fit there. But then I could go to E town or
• 2:12:33
  I could go to wall. And so like the I had like a a
• 2:12:37
  small trickle away from FD and COVID happened in 20.
• 2:12:40
  So like he had stopped driving in 19.
• 2:12:41
  I didn't even have no one went anywhere in 20.
• 2:12:43
  But you you have to get out of it what you want, and if you
• 2:12:48
  want to go all the way with that, you can.
• 2:12:50
  Yeah, you can. You can, you can.
• 2:12:53
  You can get your license, you can do the scouting.
• 2:12:55
  Report I mean, but you know, Nate is someone that started out
• 2:13:00
  like hustling us for rides in our drift cars at drift around.
• 2:13:04
  Oh wow. You won't have to like hold him
• 2:13:05
  like the sign to get the waiver. He's like, I, I'm going to make
• 2:13:09
  a YouTube video. I'm like, yeah, I don't know
• 2:13:10
  what that is, kid, but let's let's do it.
• 2:13:13
  And and that was kind of how he started.
• 2:13:15
  Like he, he, he really, really does enjoy drifting.
• 2:13:19
  And he's taking it from going from a media guy to this year he
• 2:13:24
  got his pro license. It's pretty, pretty wild.
• 2:13:26
  How do we get him on this podcast?
• 2:13:28
  Nate Chen. Yeah.
• 2:13:29
  Club Loose's number one enemy. Oh, shit.
• 2:13:32
  Are we talking about the same 1? I don't know.
• 2:13:34
  Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah.
• 2:13:35
  Why is the club loose the number one enemy?
• 2:13:36
  He wants to go to the gambler and win every.
• 2:13:38
  Time. Oh, OK, that's like it.
• 2:13:39
  What? He hated for sure.
• 2:13:41
  Have him and Dimitri in the same time.
• 2:13:42
  Yeah, that would be awesome, yeah.
• 2:13:44
  I beat Demetria at a car track comp once it happened.
• 2:13:48
  Make sure to bring that up. He's fun, He's fun, he said.
• 2:13:52
  He missed third. That was just recently, right?
• 2:13:54
  Yeah. OK, I saw his sad video.
• 2:13:57
  No, I was like, I think he missed the gear or something.
• 2:14:01
  Hey, a win's a win for me. I.
• 2:14:02
  Never knew about that lap thing and I'm glad you told me about
• 2:14:05
  it 'cause now I hate this shit even more, Nate.
• 2:14:06
  Super focused on drifting and I think a lot of people get the
• 2:14:09
  wrong vibe from him and it's not because he's a bad person.
• 2:14:12
  Yeah, any of that. He's he expects a lot out of the
• 2:14:15
  sport because he put he's put in a lot to the sport and I think
• 2:14:20
  that. That he's probably 16 when I had
• 2:14:22
  to like tell. When you're.
• 2:14:24
  In that, hey, he's just going to like, walk around the camera.
• 2:14:26
  They're like, sure. Whatever.
• 2:14:27
  When you're that obsessed with something, you're going to not.
• 2:14:30
  Not everyone's going to make friends.
• 2:14:31
  Yeah. You know, and I would use the
• 2:14:34
  word obsessed like he's he's in it.
• 2:14:36
  I'm trying to think Sarah Reardon told us this one.
• 2:14:40
  Chen, 10 or 10 Chen. Or something Chen out of Chen.
• 2:14:44
  Chen out of Chen. Yeah, that's, that's what Sarah
• 2:14:47
  told me. She knew about Nate Chen.
• 2:14:49
  And I was like, what is that? All these sex.
• 2:14:51
  It's just a catch phrase dude. Just Asian.
• 2:14:53
  So yeah, I guess his, he has his gear, said Chen, out of Chen,
• 2:14:56
  right across the back. Yeah, his dad, he's fully
• 2:14:59
  embraced it. Hard.
• 2:15:00
  Fully embraced it. No, I mean, but like.
• 2:15:02
  You're talking about someone that mom and dad went to.
• 2:15:05
  Every event I went to this year, Mom is cooking lunch for us,
• 2:15:09
  making us breakfast. Amazing.
• 2:15:11
  Just, you know, they're in it. And it was it was cool to see
• 2:15:14
  him get his pro license and it'll be interesting to see what
• 2:15:17
  he does with it. Stuff, it's tough at the top.
• 2:15:20
  And he still uses the FD, right? Or no.
• 2:15:23
  The FD is his. Party car.
• 2:15:26
  Party car and the gambler car, but he has a BR Z/FRS but the
• 2:15:32
  committed service brand built that car, did the LS swap,
• 2:15:36
  helped campaign campaign it for the first couple years when you
• 2:15:38
  did pro spec I think and then he grew into Jerry Yang maintaining
• 2:15:44
  it and you coming up on the weekends and.
• 2:15:47
  Yeah, Jerry, Jerry, Jerry prepped the car and and bring
• 2:15:50
  the car to the track and we'd put the fires out as they
• 2:15:53
  burned. And that was what we did that
• 2:15:55
  for two seasons. And you know, the reality is
• 2:15:58
  that most of that stuff is, is pretty low key.
• 2:16:01
  It was like us showing up with plastic totes and a Milwaukee
• 2:16:05
  box full of tools, and that was what we did.
• 2:16:08
  That's what I like to hear because then that that makes it
• 2:16:11
  a little less intimidating for me to think about.
• 2:16:13
  It's not just the cool Instagram posts, it's there's a lot of
• 2:16:16
  work behind that makes it happen.
• 2:16:18
  Yeah, or he changes motor and like to have someone come rewire
• 2:16:22
  a couple things and tune it like it's all MIL spec shit.
• 2:16:25
  It's like it was it, was it? Was a lot of fun this year
• 2:16:28
  because it went from a blower car in Atlanta to a nitrous car
• 2:16:32
  in Jersey and he he did really well.
• 2:16:34
  I think he finished second in Jersey this year or last year,
• 2:16:38
  last year and. I was on him and Jimmy.
• 2:16:40
  We were, we were riding back in the van to the hotel, and we
• 2:16:44
  told him how much nitrous he'd used in the weekend.
• 2:16:46
  And he was like, what? I was like, yeah.
• 2:16:49
  And then he started doing that math.
• 2:16:50
  He was like, oh, no, what did I do?
• 2:16:52
  It's like, yeah, it's expensive. Rowdy and we spraying like 100
• 2:16:55
  shot or something. Like no idea 100 a new bottle
• 2:16:58
  every. Two laps.
• 2:16:58
  Every two laps we were pulling a 35 LB bottle out.
• 2:17:01
  Two laps. Wow, still nitrous is crazy.
• 2:17:03
  What are we doing, dude? I want nitrous so bad dude.
• 2:17:06
  Just so I could shoot it out though, yeah.
• 2:17:08
  You want it for different reasons.
• 2:17:09
  That's it, yeah. I'm on the line.
• 2:17:10
  I'm fucking pressing my button like this.
• 2:17:12
  I. Want it for that reason too?
• 2:17:13
  Watch. The fuck out, we're gonna die.
• 2:17:15
  I had nitrogenic KA, that's pretty fucking safe.
• 2:17:17
  It was probably awesome. I, I watched it throughout the
• 2:17:21
  year and I got to learn a lot from Jerry about about setting
• 2:17:25
  the car up and and running the nitrous.
• 2:17:27
  And I want it in my car for sure 100%.
• 2:17:30
  And I know what he spent on it, but it's pretty sick.
• 2:17:35
  Because it doesn't weigh much. No, it's not a supercharger and
• 2:17:37
  it's not an extra belt. Nope, I'm.
• 2:17:39
  Just trying to be like Fast and furious.
• 2:17:41
  It's not as dramatic as everyone says it is, and I would say it's
• 2:17:45
  by far better than having a blower.
• 2:17:47
  I want the button though I don't want to have it automatically.
• 2:17:50
  Like with the Revs. No, I used the kickdown switch
• 2:17:53
  because my car was auto so it was just already there.
• 2:17:55
  I just want nudges in my car for when I'm drag racing on the
• 2:17:58
  highway. I don't want it for drifting.
• 2:17:59
  No, I want it for. The whole shot.
• 2:18:02
  I agree with the limitations thing.
• 2:18:04
  Maybe for pro obviously the limitations would be higher, but
• 2:18:09
  for like little grassroots comms dude it sucks when somebody
• 2:18:12
  rolls a pro car out of a trailer and then you're like what the
• 2:18:17
  fuck am I supposed to be? Like they could be sent home
• 2:18:20
  just as easily by you because they're going to spin.
• 2:18:22
  Yeah. Maybe think about that like if
• 2:18:24
  you're rolling up to these money comps and someone does bring a
• 2:18:26
  pro car but then I'm in a BQ car.
• 2:18:30
  Like they're not. Going to expect as much, yeah,
• 2:18:32
  But I I would want to upset them, and that reward's going to
• 2:18:36
  be better than winning the whole thing.
• 2:18:37
  Like, I'll beat this guy. I love when I get to wheel my
• 2:18:39
  car against somebody or something like a different car
• 2:18:43
  that I know is well beyond. Like a Corvette or something.
• 2:18:46
  Like I know, I know what kind of sweat and $6 that I have used to
• 2:18:52
  put the car together. And for me, it's prideful when I
• 2:18:54
  know the things I did, the things I worked for beat like I
• 2:19:00
  don't know it's but that's why it's like a good feeling not.
• 2:19:02
  That's why why a comp is good. Yeah, it just gives you a good.
• 2:19:06
  Idea. I didn't want to think that and
• 2:19:08
  I love grid life and I do a ton of grid lifes and I've just kind
• 2:19:13
  of started taking those steps to wanting to do more comps.
• 2:19:17
  And and while I hear what you're saying, we've rolled to LS Fest
• 2:19:21
  this year and I pushed the car out of the trailer and I'm like
• 2:19:23
  proud that this thing makes 480 at the tires.
• 2:19:27
  And then I started seeing the other cars and like Jonathan
• 2:19:29
  Aaron's car made what, 1200 horsepower?
• 2:19:31
  Just made 1200 what the fuck I should?
• 2:19:32
  Just put my car back in the. Trailer.
• 2:19:34
  No, no, no dude, 480 sounds just right.
• 2:19:37
  Yeah, but it's wild. You go to all these, you know,
• 2:19:41
  that's supposed to be a grassroots comp and there's.
• 2:19:43
  A grassroots comps without a tire limit, yeah.
• 2:19:45
  Oh God, it's. No tire limit.
• 2:19:47
  It's a tire limit. There's some 3.
• 2:19:48
  Fifteens on there. Yeah, I definitely brought 220
• 2:19:50
  fives to LS Fest and there was guys on 295.
• 2:19:54
  So if you have a tire limit, it's kind of just like what are
• 2:19:57
  we? Doing I think clutch kickers has
• 2:19:58
  a 265 and then gamblers now just 235.
• 2:20:01
  I like the Gambler 235, but what I like seeing too is that tire
• 2:20:06
  manufacturers will actually engineer that size now for the
• 2:20:11
  favour of like motorsport. I think that's weird why the
• 2:20:15
  prospect tires are 255. Like it's too big.
• 2:20:17
  It's just like what the fuck? What actual car is a 255?
• 2:20:20
  That's in between a 265 and a 235.
• 2:20:22
  It's very weird. Oh, there's a 45 in.
• 2:20:24
  There or well, I guess, but I don't even know 245 is like.
• 2:20:28
  Is 255 way more rare than 245? Is that?
• 2:20:31
  In like the regular. I'm in this space.
• 2:20:33
  Yeah, I do. I don't remember the last time
• 2:20:34
  I've seen but like it's I guess FD gave GT radio the exclusivity
• 2:20:40
  to make that only tire because it was Nexon and Achilles and if
• 2:20:45
  you're on Achilles you're going to win.
• 2:20:46
  If you're on a Nexon you couldn't run enough low pressure
• 2:20:49
  to keep it on the wheel kind of thing, but if you had a small
• 2:20:53
  Achilles it was going to be faster than any other tire.
• 2:20:56
  I remember when Achilles was the tire to have too.
• 2:20:59
  And there wasn't a rule when I was driving, so I was running
• 2:21:02
  like a 285 that was $70 a piece. But there there had to be like a
• 2:21:06
  Max tire limit still, right? Or no, there wasn't any tire.
• 2:21:09
  Not for pro spec or not for pro two.
• 2:21:12
  It was just wide open until they did pro spec.
• 2:21:15
  You had to do the link ECU and the 255 tire only.
• 2:21:19
  I remember when they implemented the weight to tire size and I
• 2:21:22
  was like wow this is a genius idea.
• 2:21:24
  Yep. But that was Tony Angelo,
• 2:21:25
  apparently. Really.
• 2:21:26
  Yeah, Yeah. That was that was like I was
• 2:21:28
  like, OK, this, this might help. Didn't really help that much.
• 2:21:31
  The car's still have 2000 horsepower, but.
• 2:21:33
  That guy's badass. I wish we could have a
• 2:21:34
  conversation with him with someday.
• 2:21:36
  We probably can't. Tony Angelo.
• 2:21:37
  I feel like that one is more easy for me to get than some of
• 2:21:41
  the other people. Some of the other people are,
• 2:21:42
  oh, just get this guy on. I'm like, I don't fucking know,
• 2:21:44
  Chris Forsberg. What the fuck are you talking
• 2:21:45
  about? Like they're like, what?
• 2:21:47
  You've been drifting for 10 years.
• 2:21:48
  I don't fucking know these people.
• 2:21:49
  Like whenever you know he's coming back to hang out with his
• 2:21:51
  brother. Yeah.
• 2:21:52
  Send him a message. I just want to talk about all
• 2:21:53
  the side quests he's done. He's done so many different non
• 2:21:56
  drifting related but for some reason it always cycles back to
• 2:22:00
  something drifting. Like they built that big ass, I
• 2:22:03
  don't know what remember What Car it is, but they built a
• 2:22:04
  really big car and then at the end of the video he just started
• 2:22:08
  drifting it. I'm like.
• 2:22:11
  Yeah, he would do shit at Brad's shop too, right?
• 2:22:13
  Brad hanging shirt. He he, I think.
• 2:22:15
  That that Doylestown area. Something like that.
• 2:22:18
  They were doing stuff over there too, because he's doing some
• 2:22:20
  cages for us. But yeah, we got to have him on.
• 2:22:22
  That'll be cool. All right, I'm going to look at
• 2:22:25
  these questions, see what we. Got I wonder what kind of
• 2:22:26
  questions we got. I know there was a lot last time
• 2:22:29
  I looked and that was two hours ago.
• 2:22:30
  So interesting if. They're going to ask you like
• 2:22:33
  your shoe sizes and shit, OK? They're big, big socks.
• 2:22:37
  Yeah, dude, there's. Always some weird shit too in
• 2:22:40
  here. I'll try not to read all the
• 2:22:41
  weird ones but. You got to ask a couple weird
• 2:22:43
  ones, yeah. I got a heads up that some might
• 2:22:46
  be a little rated R. Oh yeah, they usually are.
• 2:22:49
  Here's an easy 1. Is a hot dog a sandwich?
• 2:22:51
  Yep, same with the Taco. Taco is crazy.
• 2:22:55
  Taco too. Is, is, is.
• 2:22:57
  A hot dog is a sandwich, I'll give you that, OK?
• 2:23:00
  I just bought some hot dogs today.
• 2:23:02
  I can't wait to go home. Fuck Mary Kill, Waffle House,
• 2:23:07
  Texas Roadhouse or Taco Bell. Texas Roadhouse.
• 2:23:10
  That's easy one. Well, which one are?
• 2:23:11
  You going to fuck? Which one are you going to
• 2:23:12
  marry? Which one are you going to kill
• 2:23:14
  off? You have to do in threes.
• 2:23:15
  I would get rid of Taco Bell like I don't I was.
• 2:23:18
  Going to ask if you want to go later.
• 2:23:19
  Nope. There's one across the street.
• 2:23:21
  We can accelerate this party. You guys got everything except
• 2:23:24
  Waffle House. You can go to Texas Roadhouse
• 2:23:26
  too. There's one not too far away.
• 2:23:27
  We. Got time for that?
• 2:23:29
  Yeah, I got to work. Carl, what do you what is your
• 2:23:32
  answer for this? One, I would also get rid of
• 2:23:34
  Taco Bell because the other two options are like a pretty solid
• 2:23:37
  A tier above 1000%. I think you're going to fuck
• 2:23:40
  Waffle House. Yeah, kill Waffle House.
• 2:23:43
  What? How?
• 2:23:44
  Many Are you Taco Bell? Whoa.
• 2:23:47
  You got you got a lot of Waffle Houses down there.
• 2:23:48
  Nope. OK.
• 2:23:49
  Taco Bell does not upset my stomach.
• 2:23:52
  It does not upset my stomach ever.
• 2:23:53
  Taco Bell You. Got to build it up.
• 2:23:55
  You can't just not go and then be mad that your body's not
• 2:23:58
  ready for the. Awesomeness like but Texas
• 2:24:00
  Roadhouse. Taco Bell's It's expensive.
• 2:24:03
  It is really. Yeah, it.
• 2:24:04
  Used to be when I was a kid. No, that used.
• 2:24:06
  To be that. Was where you go. 79 San Taco
• 2:24:09
  was fired. That was a great time.
• 2:24:11
  Everything's expensive. 100 Drifters.
• 2:24:13
  Yeah, everything is a drift. Dude and then they made the
• 2:24:15
  Crunchwrap Supreme in like 2000 and too much lighting five.
• 2:24:19
  It was early and I was like damn, you had this big ass
• 2:24:22
  circle Taco now. Cheezagordia Crunch is the best
• 2:24:25
  thing on the menu. You have said that more than
• 2:24:27
  once. I'm sorry, that's the best thing
• 2:24:28
  on the menu. That is the plainest.
• 2:24:30
  Shit, what's your McDonald's order like?
• 2:24:32
  Oh, it's, oh, you heard it the other night.
• 2:24:33
  Yeah. It's wild.
• 2:24:35
  And look. I was like, don't ask me that,
• 2:24:37
  look at them. Yeah, I did.
• 2:24:38
  I was crazy. Doesn't.
• 2:24:40
  It was 10 Nuggets, a Big Mac and a double quarter pounder.
• 2:24:43
  Right now, right now, that's a. Lot that is a that.
• 2:24:46
  Fries also. I don't read.
• 2:24:49
  That was kind of a lie. Yeah.
• 2:24:50
  But you know, if I'm there, I'm going to be like.
• 2:24:52
  You're eating the fucking fry. I've literally watched you.
• 2:24:55
  I'm just I don't really eat the. Feet or you like shuffle them
• 2:24:57
  in. I eat.
• 2:24:59
  I don't. I don't shuffle the fries.
• 2:25:00
  That's your drive. I'm not a savage.
• 2:25:02
  OK, Dan Savage. Are you eating fries?
• 2:25:04
  One at a time. Who?
• 2:25:05
  Who is it? Yeah.
• 2:25:06
  No, you're grabbing maybe like 2.
• 2:25:08
  Like a pinch is worth you just like grab.
• 2:25:10
  All always ends up just turning into a food podcast because it's
• 2:25:13
  like that time of the night. I wish you're.
• 2:25:15
  Controlling this by the way. I wish we could get like,
• 2:25:17
  imagine today's food sponsors brought to you by blank and then
• 2:25:20
  we just have that food and we just repeat that food.
• 2:25:22
  That sounds so good. I mean it does sound good but.
• 2:25:27
  Like we could review chicken parms or something like 9
• 2:25:29
  chicken parm. Chicken on Instagram, it's
• 2:25:31
  always like the craziest thing and she's like slams.
• 2:25:33
  Oh, I just saw that today. I think that's.
• 2:25:34
  What I'm saying like she has like really small glasses you
• 2:25:36
  just saw. That today that's.
• 2:25:37
  Like a brunch spot I think or something.
• 2:25:39
  It's always pancakes working. Oh yeah.
• 2:25:42
  It was like, keep driving. She's going to ask us if you
• 2:25:44
  want chicken. And then she's in the backseat.
• 2:25:45
  I'm like, what the fuck? All right, let's see, I asked
• 2:25:49
  Ryan about Volkswagen 2 Point O and how they're the KA24 E of
• 2:25:54
  Volkswagens. So.
• 2:25:55
  They're reliable as fuck. Wow.
• 2:25:59
  I, I, I've broken a lot of Volkswagens.
• 2:26:02
  I'm not going to lie. I Volkswagens come to my house
• 2:26:05
  to die. I have three of them and I've
• 2:26:09
  parted out like 10 of them to make three of them live.
• 2:26:11
  They're when I bought the cars, I thought I'm going to, I'm
• 2:26:14
  going to start a business and I'm going to rent these cars.
• 2:26:17
  But I always rented them to my buddies and they always got
• 2:26:18
  crashed and they always. Got blown up and.
• 2:26:20
  I was like, that made a terrible idea.
• 2:26:22
  Damn it, Dan. So now I take the cars and we do
• 2:26:26
  this 1/6 hour race every year and I just invite my friends to
• 2:26:29
  come drive. So this year we had 20 people
• 2:26:33
  come and drive the cars and it's pretty low key.
• 2:26:38
  There's no race license. You were on a racetrack in
• 2:26:40
  Dominion. It's $20 to drive, $120.00 to
• 2:26:44
  enter, and I had a group of people that had never driven a
• 2:26:48
  Volkswagen before, never road race before and definitely never
• 2:26:52
  endurance race before. I was going to say this is an
• 2:26:54
  endurance race. And I was.
• 2:26:55
  Just putting them in every 20 minutes.
• 2:26:57
  We switched drivers. It's.
• 2:26:58
  Fantastic. Yeah, he did ask me to come it
• 2:27:01
  up. That is Talladega Nights, dude.
• 2:27:03
  Like he showed you showed up. I had a bunch of my.
• 2:27:05
  Friends gets a lap, you get a lap, you get a lap.
• 2:27:07
  Everybody drove. I I had, I had a bunch of people
• 2:27:10
  that had only drifted before and like put them in the car and
• 2:27:13
  they come back and they're like, that's really stressful.
• 2:27:15
  I don't, I don't like this. I'm like, yeah, dude, you're out
• 2:27:18
  there. Any.
• 2:27:19
  Positions for. Us you're going, you're going
• 2:27:20
  100 miles an hour, you're getting passed by like roundy,
• 2:27:23
  round U cars. It's wild.
• 2:27:25
  Yeah, the Volkswagens are great. A big Volkswagen guy.
• 2:27:27
  So 2.0 is the engine. Yes, that's ABA.
• 2:27:30
  It's a Mark 3, so yeah, we my one has a Mark 3 motor in it.
• 2:27:34
  And are they good or are they? I would put the ABA over AK.
• 2:27:40
  Really. Yeah, a solid.
• 2:27:43
  The KA for me is like a it will run as long as it has oil.
• 2:27:47
  Would you say that about the ABA as well?
• 2:27:49
  The ABA doesn't even need oil. Oh word.
• 2:27:51
  Damn, that's fucked up. Got it.
• 2:27:53
  Left the door open on that. One No, they don't even need
• 2:27:55
  oil. My dad had like a a mark 1 and
• 2:27:58
  that was I think his had like the red around it.
• 2:28:02
  I thought that looked sick when I was a kid and then I found out
• 2:28:06
  what it takes the. Minor mark twos.
• 2:28:09
  OK, so yours had the circle that you could put on.
• 2:28:13
  Oh, the big square ones. I don't know.
• 2:28:15
  I still like all of them. Wait, don't you like?
• 2:28:18
  No, he likes. He likes Mark 4.
• 2:28:19
  Malcolm likes Mark 4. Carl breaking the 3rd wall.
• 2:28:23
  Actually no on Nismo, Nismo boy, whatever.
• 2:28:26
  On his Instagram he just posted a picture like they're both
• 2:28:30
  backed up. Over.
• 2:28:34
  No the go. Over.
• 2:28:35
  One. Oh, yeah.
• 2:28:36
  OK, yeah, where all those people are standing, they're in the
• 2:28:39
  background. The mark.
• 2:28:41
  Oh wait, those are the cars. Yeah, scroll over.
• 2:28:43
  Dude, they look like a riot if they got caged and just gutted
• 2:28:46
  out. Oh yeah, dude, that is that
• 2:28:49
  thing will burn some hairs. Right now you look like you
• 2:28:51
  look. Like you get hurt in that thing
• 2:28:53
  pretty easily. Scary.
• 2:28:55
  That looks awesome. And you just put like azenis on
• 2:28:57
  it for the weekend or? Something we put, we put the the
• 2:29:00
  Falcon 6 fifteens on those cars and they'll run six hours on
• 2:29:04
  those tires. They're fantastic.
• 2:29:05
  And then we'll go run race weekends.
• 2:29:07
  After 100 Drifters banner on that one, yes.
• 2:29:09
  I bought when I had my 2:40 or like integra.
• 2:29:13
  I bought a zennis from an old dude who raced these and he
• 2:29:17
  taught me how to left foot brake.
• 2:29:19
  He was like you have an open diff try this next time.
• 2:29:22
  He's like an older dude. Yeah, these these cars are a
• 2:29:25
  blast in and this was the first time.
• 2:29:28
  Are those team dynamic wheels? They are those cars.
• 2:29:30
  Got 2 dynamics. What made you say that?
• 2:29:32
  Cuz those are the wheels I had on the Mini Cooper one.
• 2:29:34
  Yeah, they're cool. Yeah, 400 probably.
• 2:29:37
  Yeah. Yeah, my road race car has nice
• 2:29:40
  wheels, but my drift car does not.
• 2:29:41
  I get a lot of hate for that, but.
• 2:29:44
  Well, do they know what wheels you have?
• 2:29:45
  They. I run.
• 2:29:47
  I run Mustang wheels. Yeah, I saw the five spokes, the
• 2:29:50
  Hotshot. Spoke whatever, right?
• 2:29:52
  What are they called? Tri Bars.
• 2:29:54
  Tri bars, Mustang wheel. Yeah.
• 2:29:57
  What? How do we find that you get?
• 2:29:59
  A Scroll down for the convertible.
• 2:30:02
  OK, yeah. So the anything with the
• 2:30:03
  convertible will have them. Oh yeah, they are Mustang
• 2:30:07
  wheels. Oh.
• 2:30:10
  Shit, who's making your reels, dog?
• 2:30:13
  I would take the cars out to This is a summer camp close to
• 2:30:20
  summit and I I go every year and we do Donuts in the parking lot.
• 2:30:25
  The cops came within like 5 minutes of starting that car.
• 2:30:28
  I St. drove the car there with my son and it was about an hour
• 2:30:31
  drive and. Hey, the car be driving on the
• 2:30:36
  street. That's he.
• 2:30:41
  Looks happy but. Dude, good for you.
• 2:30:42
  Yeah, it's fun. That's that's what I also.
• 2:30:46
  Bring that final about this year at Summit because we both drove
• 2:30:50
  these. Cars back down.
• 2:30:51
  I think I that was this year, yes.
• 2:30:54
  Oh my God, it's been. A year, yeah, right.
• 2:30:55
  So that sideways one, that's us. Yeah, that, that's good.
• 2:30:58
  Oh yeah, just tilt your head, yo.
• 2:31:01
  But the convertible had the stock LS1 and you're like, can
• 2:31:05
  you drive that one? 48, Yeah, no, for sure.
• 2:31:07
  So this is the VQ car. No, these are your cars.
• 2:31:10
  So they're both your cars, yeah. Come on dude, because.
• 2:31:12
  They have Mustang wheels. I got stage wheels.
• 2:31:14
  Yeah, the, the, the, the, the Tri bars, you're showing your
• 2:31:19
  Volkswagen there because, because I swear to you,
• 2:31:22
  Volkswagen people love putting different wheels on different
• 2:31:26
  cars. Yeah.
• 2:31:27
  Like, dude, why did salad shooters start?
• 2:31:30
  That was a that was a Corvette wheel.
• 2:31:33
  Well, you know what I mean? Like, why are we doing that?
• 2:31:35
  Couldn't tell you. Volkswagen people, Volkswagen
• 2:31:37
  people, they, they made it happen.
• 2:31:38
  Anything on a Volkswagen their fault?
• 2:31:39
  When is Dan buying another Escalade tow rig?
• 2:31:43
  Who has that Max? Mike.
• 2:31:47
  Mike Stansko. Oh OK, I sold.
• 2:31:50
  Oh, I love him though. He has this right.
• 2:31:52
  He Yeah, he does. Yeah, I sold.
• 2:31:53
  Mine to Luke Fink actually, when he oh really flew to the US, he
• 2:31:57
  asked Max with the Corvette. He Max was supposed to be
• 2:32:01
  looking for a caravan for them. I was like.
• 2:32:03
  Well, wasn't, wasn't Luke. A Dodge Caravan.
• 2:32:05
  Something yeah, but this was like 3 years ago and I was like,
• 2:32:08
  so Luke Fink's wife mentioned me like do you have a caravan for
• 2:32:10
  sale? I was like, what the fuck's a
• 2:32:11
  caravan? Like a dodge.
• 2:32:14
  Well, they call them vans, they just say Cara in front of him.
• 2:32:19
  So he was thinking I had a van that the family could ride in
• 2:32:22
  when they were doing drift week when they bought their Corvettes
• 2:32:24
  for the first time. But yeah, I've had several
• 2:32:26
  Escalades in their great tow rigs.
• 2:32:27
  I but Mike has the new Gen. like a 13 and up.
• 2:32:29
  Yeah, it's way suite. Is that not the one that you
• 2:32:31
  had? No, I had like the 08 to twelves
• 2:32:34
  or whatever. So it was still like a 800, like
• 2:32:38
  a GMT8 bot like chassis in the bottom?
• 2:32:42
  I don't know. I don't know.
• 2:32:42
  As long as it's an Escalade, you're cool.
• 2:32:44
  Escalade is good because they adorably have 6 liters.
• 2:32:47
  So Escalade is a booth and. It had cold seats.
• 2:32:51
  Fuck that, that's wealth. Yes.
• 2:32:54
  Oh my gosh, I have. A tundra that has that.
• 2:32:56
  Someone brought up if you guys have SIM rigs or not I.
• 2:32:58
  Do you do I do OK? My my, it's worth it.
• 2:33:01
  My question was going to be, is there one in here?
• 2:33:03
  Like, no there's not. Should be.
• 2:33:04
  Dude what? People want them in here.
• 2:33:06
  He doesn't want to do it. I I would set one up here so
• 2:33:09
  quickly just. Put it in here and lock the
• 2:33:10
  door. So yeah.
• 2:33:11
  Frankie said that people would just be in here for hours.
• 2:33:13
  Would it be showing up, doing that shit all day?
• 2:33:15
  We'll get nothing done. Then you can set up a payment.
• 2:33:18
  It's a fucking clock in and that's how much you.
• 2:33:20
  Make it like a, like a. They have those like computer
• 2:33:23
  style, like stories where you clock in and you just start
• 2:33:25
  paying. Yeah.
• 2:33:26
  And. Like an Internet cafe.
• 2:33:27
  Internet cafe, I mean. A machine on it, you put cash in
• 2:33:30
  it. That's what we need I.
• 2:33:31
  Used to have to do that when I went to the Philippines.
• 2:33:32
  That was crazy work. Yes, I was going.
• 2:33:35
  To say, have you seen a lot of like, young drivers come to the
• 2:33:38
  Yeah. That kid Jacob, that I know,
• 2:33:39
  he's OK. I used to play with them online
• 2:33:41
  and they came to buy parts for me and was like how far you want
• 2:33:43
  to go and then here they are moving on up.
• 2:33:47
  Dude I feel like if you're younger the SIM is like your
• 2:33:51
  gateway. But like, we all play Gran
• 2:33:53
  Turismo. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
• 2:33:55
  I don't. It was just a.
• 2:33:55
  Different SIM. You have a driving simulator
• 2:33:57
  now? Fuck yeah, I get one.
• 2:33:59
  Just different levels. I had a wheel for Gran Turismo
• 2:34:02
  and that changed that game for me forever.
• 2:34:04
  Yeah, like I had AG25I. Still have it 15 years now I've
• 2:34:08
  had it. It's still the wheel he's using.
• 2:34:09
  Probably dude, it just recently started.
• 2:34:12
  Now you need a direct drive, you need pedals that have like,
• 2:34:14
  feedback. I don't have any emotions but a
• 2:34:16
  nice shifter handbrake. Like I tried to measure
• 2:34:19
  everything out to my car like it's it's red.
• 2:34:22
  Like it doesn't look like a piece of shit in the corner.
• 2:34:24
  It's a nice track razor rig. Mine is horrible dude.
• 2:34:27
  It's fucking. I left it to.
• 2:34:28
  I left it to yours. Is definitely.
• 2:34:29
  Horrible. I left it to Frankie and Josh de
• 2:34:31
  Lise for one night. We had a Christmas party the
• 2:34:34
  next morning that was broken as fuck.
• 2:34:35
  Yeah. I was how?
• 2:34:37
  You upgrade dude. He had no over. 15.
• 2:34:39
  Years it's a button, so I'm hit. So I have my arm like this and
• 2:34:42
  Josh is going. I was like, all right, use my
• 2:34:44
  hand as AE rig, I'll hit the button.
• 2:34:45
  So he's like grabbed, he's like just going like, and I'm hitting
• 2:34:48
  the button and, and it was working for a bit, but I was
• 2:34:51
  like, I don't know how Carl does.
• 2:34:52
  This drive that and teach myself the tracks just enough so that I
• 2:34:57
  can go there. It's not a replacement.
• 2:34:59
  It's not a replacement. It's just there and I had to
• 2:35:02
  pull that thing out of like I was in college and I pulled that
• 2:35:05
  thing out of the closet because 2 by fours Gran Turismo died.
• 2:35:08
  No, it was like on my desk, like in my dorm it.
• 2:35:12
  Would be like. I would say you would.
• 2:35:14
  I definitely have a couple of grand in mind, maybe a little
• 2:35:16
  bit more. Yeah, it's.
• 2:35:18
  Is it Moza Moza Wheel I? Have a DD1 direct drive and all
• 2:35:23
  fanatech shifter. I think that's when Malcolm has
• 2:35:27
  the DD. DD1 or maybe I have a DD1?
• 2:35:30
  My phone. Yeah, I'd I'd want to get like
• 2:35:33
  the new shit, but my stuff still works.
• 2:35:35
  If it's still working. Dude, on Saturday I was playing
• 2:35:37
  for a bit like I I'll usually use the metaquest and use VR and
• 2:35:41
  that just seals the deal. That's what I But if my kids are
• 2:35:44
  playing on their little bounce house inside, like I just have
• 2:35:46
  to have the monitor on and. I just got like.
• 2:35:48
  Way harder cuz they're like fucking.
• 2:35:49
  Fuck, I can't do the monitor anymore after you're.
• 2:35:52
  Spoiled by VR? It's so nice.
• 2:35:53
  It's. Like you can like get out and
• 2:35:54
  like all over the car. Sometimes it's so fun.
• 2:35:59
  I'll be like I'll I'll like stream it or whatever sometimes
• 2:36:02
  on the faction discord and just like stand up.
• 2:36:04
  Oh, cool. And just like lookout and be
• 2:36:05
  like look it, look it, look at yeah, look at my stream and
• 2:36:09
  whatever and I can. I'm like outside of my car.
• 2:36:11
  It's so cool. It is nuts.
• 2:36:13
  It's cool to go. Like, I was playing Long Beach
• 2:36:15
  too, you know, two weeks before and I was like, OK, now I know
• 2:36:18
  what to watch. Yeah, like that.
• 2:36:20
  Like people are gonna fuck up here and here.
• 2:36:22
  Like it's an aid. It's not a replacement.
• 2:36:24
  Not a replacement. Head, I know people with motion
• 2:36:27
  and I think it's just like a little too much.
• 2:36:30
  Yeah. Like you'll get a good workout
• 2:36:33
  going. Like you'll get sweating.
• 2:36:34
  And if like if, if, if you have VR and you're new to it, just
• 2:36:38
  take it off every 15 minutes because like your body will get
• 2:36:42
  used to it eventually. But the in the beginning, Oh my
• 2:36:44
  God, I was getting sick. I had advice like have a tower
• 2:36:47
  fan in front of you and then have some whiskey before so you
• 2:36:51
  just kind of like lose a little bit of fux so.
• 2:36:53
  The fan is huge. The fan is.
• 2:36:55
  I can do it fine without it now it just gets hot.
• 2:36:58
  Really. Hot damn, and it is just fun to
• 2:37:02
  just like. And a little bit more and then
• 2:37:03
  you'll like appreciate it a little bit more.
• 2:37:05
  There's they're always on marketplace, yeah.
• 2:37:08
  Always I need to get better stuff.
• 2:37:11
  I keep breaking the stuff. I don't have one.
• 2:37:14
  You don't. Nope.
• 2:37:15
  He's got two cars though, so. Yeah, no, I have like 10 cars.
• 2:37:17
  But you have two full drift cars.
• 2:37:19
  I do, you don't. Need to no SIM required that.
• 2:37:22
  Keeps you busy. You'd probably be like me.
• 2:37:24
  You'd probably get on it and be like, this shit's kind of weird.
• 2:37:26
  Yeah, it's fun with like. The neighborhood dads that you
• 2:37:30
  know, I try to stay under the radar.
• 2:37:31
  And I haven't tried witchy first.
• 2:37:33
  That my whiskey first, yeah. Like 5 people like love it
• 2:37:37
  'cause it's like, like you have one of these rigs and you're
• 2:37:40
  like, yeah, it's like my video game you like.
• 2:37:42
  Yeah, I don't really play like different games.
• 2:37:44
  Like, that's our video game. $7.00 Isetto loaded on Yeah.
• 2:37:47
  It's like basically what I use with.
• 2:37:48
  That's it. But then the equipments, like
• 2:37:51
  thousands of dollars, it's like $8 game.
• 2:37:54
  It's like full car. It's still super fun for me.
• 2:37:58
  And then guess what, Now you can do whatever you want.
• 2:38:00
  Sometimes I'll be like, do you guys want to run some grip
• 2:38:03
  racing laps? Yep, I have my grip set up.
• 2:38:05
  I have like the really nice like old fan of tech circuit wheel or
• 2:38:09
  whatever. Dude, the MX5 Cup car amazing.
• 2:38:12
  Like you, you run like 10 Cup cars and you load up that lobby
• 2:38:16
  with a bunch of your friends. You want to find out who's
• 2:38:19
  actually the driver? Yeah.
• 2:38:20
  Who's been drinking whiskey? There's like one guy who's doing
• 2:38:23
  amazing and the rest of us are all just like down here and
• 2:38:25
  we're like, what the fuck? I played Forza 4 that was.
• 2:38:27
  It that's what I'm saying like. Forza 4 was the shit though.
• 2:38:29
  I just got this like 4 years ago, I think like when we just
• 2:38:31
  got this new house and I'm just like, I want space down here for
• 2:38:34
  this. Yeah, I finally got it.
• 2:38:35
  But yeah, like I didn't have one.
• 2:38:36
  Like and if I hopped on somebody's I sucked and they're
• 2:38:39
  like can you get off so I can play?
• 2:38:40
  Yeah, that's me. But that's me now at my house.
• 2:38:42
  Like here you can try it. But here let me show you.
• 2:38:44
  How it works I got my this sucked.
• 2:38:46
  I was like, this is dumb you. Don't want to think too much
• 2:38:49
  about how good you're going to be.
• 2:38:51
  You're going to suck until you're like.
• 2:38:53
  OK, again it's a but it's weird because like.
• 2:38:56
  We were, we were talking about how like, so me and Josh got on
• 2:38:59
  that thing and we were bad. But then you'd see kids playing
• 2:39:03
  that and then they go drift and they're pros and you're like,
• 2:39:06
  wow. It's kind of weird how it's like
• 2:39:07
  the reverse like like we could drift, but we go on that and we
• 2:39:12
  we're, it's going to be a little bit of a learning curve, but
• 2:39:14
  they come out and there's like basically no fucking learning
• 2:39:17
  curve. Like I've seen some people go
• 2:39:19
  out there their first event and they're just linking the track
• 2:39:23
  like. It's a new thing, like you have
• 2:39:24
  to acknowledge it and you no matter how you came up the
• 2:39:27
  ranks. And I think our last round, FD
• 2:39:28
  really showed that I, I feel like the hero is always about
• 2:39:33
  the SIM rig. And you saw him really do well.
• 2:39:36
  And that was because it was a track that FD had never gone to
• 2:39:40
  and there was no data for everyone else.
• 2:39:43
  So he had a massive leg up because he's one of those guys
• 2:39:46
  and he'll tell you, yeah, I did 5000 laps.
• 2:39:48
  Jesus. So it'll be interesting to see
• 2:39:51
  next year with all the changes they made in the schedule and
• 2:39:54
  what that actually happens to the standings because you're
• 2:39:58
  going to have guys that have been having that crutch of
• 2:40:02
  having all this data. You know, our TR probably hasn't
• 2:40:06
  driven Connecticut. Yeah, someone else asked that
• 2:40:08
  question too. How do we show about the new FD
• 2:40:11
  track rotation? Malcolm, could you bring up the
• 2:40:13
  the 2026? Thank you, Malcolm.
• 2:40:16
  Just to see but it there was like.
• 2:40:18
  What a thankless job. No one's saying thank you to
• 2:40:21
  Malcolm. You always say thank you, so I
• 2:40:23
  don't need, I don't need to say it.
• 2:40:24
  I fucking hate it. So no more E town.
• 2:40:28
  That's this is last year's. Maybe it might be last year's.
• 2:40:31
  Yeah, because it's sold. It's going.
• 2:40:32
  To be like an Instagram post, probably.
• 2:40:34
  Yeah, go to the Instagram, please.
• 2:40:36
  There you go. Yeah.
• 2:40:37
  So same same same Stafford. What is?
• 2:40:40
  I googled that today and it's and Turk actually just posted a
• 2:40:43
  clip of it. Oh, OK, what the?
• 2:40:45
  Fuck. They're going to go to Ryan
• 2:40:46
  Turk's Instagram. I don't know what that is going
• 2:40:48
  to be. There's for Shetty.
• 2:40:52
  Starting shit. Would rather have FDNJ than a
• 2:40:54
  second Long Beach, all right. Dang. 200 and 42140 likes on
• 2:41:01
  that. Shit, whoa, this guy is not the
• 2:41:03
  right Ryan Turk. That is, that is the most
• 2:41:05
  likely. He's ever.
• 2:41:06
  Said yeah. There.
• 2:41:10
  Ryan Turek. No, you just had it.
• 2:41:15
  But I think this is really going to shake things up in Formula
• 2:41:18
  Drift is going to make a huge difference, especially with
• 2:41:20
  prospect. Like like I said, you're only
• 2:41:23
  getting 6 laps So what you did last year is really important.
• 2:41:26
  One more left. There you go.
• 2:41:28
  How's it? Not even any pin post.
• 2:41:30
  What year is this there? I go drift faction event 350
• 2:41:36
  horsepower was that. Long ago.
• 2:41:37
  Wait. Where'd the video clip?
• 2:41:39
  2006 Go back, man. Yeah, there you go.
• 2:41:41
  This is Connecticut, whatever this is.
• 2:41:43
  Stafford. Yeah, 2006.
• 2:41:49
  So unless they added more pavement, I don't know what
• 2:41:51
  they're going with a new one. I mean, it looks it's not
• 2:41:54
  terrible yet it. Looks like No, it looks like
• 2:41:57
  when. That's all they want.
• 2:41:59
  They. Would go to Canada.
• 2:42:00
  That's all they want. They want that big ass bank
• 2:42:01
  turn. That's all they want.
• 2:42:02
  I don't know why they only care about.
• 2:42:03
  That 3 seconds in A4350 horsepower car.
• 2:42:07
  That's all they care about, man. That car's sick, by the way,
• 2:42:11
  with a wing on it. That would be my favorite car.
• 2:42:14
  Like just keep it. Simple.
• 2:42:15
  Yeah, that's really, really, really narrow.
• 2:42:17
  That's. Small.
• 2:42:18
  It is very skinny. That looks like the Shenandoah
• 2:42:22
  Speedway. Kind of look like Shenandoah.
• 2:42:25
  But with grass. I wish they would have just gone
• 2:42:27
  back to wall. Yeah, that's what I was saying.
• 2:42:29
  Someone also said that there's something going on there that a
• 2:42:34
  new ownership change. I would say another acquisition
• 2:42:36
  or a new ownership change or? Something I don't know man, that
• 2:42:39
  place has been looking like a zoo lately.
• 2:42:42
  Really. You don't go to those events,
• 2:42:43
  no. Why not?
• 2:42:45
  Because I love Raceway Park. That's fair.
• 2:42:47
  Yeah, but it's not. It's not a threat to them.
• 2:42:49
  It's just like when I go, when I go watch an event there, I'm
• 2:42:52
  like God, Jesus, like. Yeah.
• 2:42:56
  They let whatever fly. There was a Jetta.
• 2:42:58
  We we went there this year and I was actually quite impressed how
• 2:43:03
  how nice the track was. Yeah, we we took the car over
• 2:43:06
  and tested it and we missed that whole storm.
• 2:43:11
  That that came through English town this.
• 2:43:12
  Year through English town and I was stunned how good the track
• 2:43:15
  actually looked. Like the facility is nice still.
• 2:43:17
  Like it's probably nicer than it was when I went there and I
• 2:43:21
  think I went to FD in like what 2007 or 8 to watch and the
• 2:43:27
  track? Track is good, the asphalt is
• 2:43:30
  good. I feel bad for like the people
• 2:43:32
  that take care of it because there's people that they're
• 2:43:35
  doing it for. They're just disrespecting like
• 2:43:37
  the shit out of the facility. Like you, they have a car show
• 2:43:41
  event there. You do not want to see what that
• 2:43:43
  looks like after the event leaves.
• 2:43:46
  There's garbage everywhere. There's just like this was good
• 2:43:49
  for anybody. It's not great for anybody.
• 2:43:51
  I went to FD there and I remember we had to park like at
• 2:43:53
  the at the airport and shuttle in and like it was packed, dude.
• 2:43:59
  And like, I don't know, the bank is.
• 2:44:02
  If you take is if you take a. Step on the bank.
• 2:44:05
  You're really like, it is so steep.
• 2:44:07
  And then there's photos of people drifting on it and you're
• 2:44:09
  just. Like, yeah.
• 2:44:10
  Like the history is there because I did.
• 2:44:12
  I did a track walk before we ran the car.
• 2:44:15
  I found one bolt on the track. That's how clean your track was.
• 2:44:18
  And as you walk through, you could see all the different
• 2:44:21
  brand of tires that make their tire walls, and it's all old FD
• 2:44:26
  Pro tires. So you, your Achilles, your next
• 2:44:29
  Gen. your Falcons, all of them are there.
• 2:44:31
  They're still there. It's pretty pretty cool.
• 2:44:33
  Yeah, I miss that track too. For FD I mean.
• 2:44:38
  They grew it. We love Raceway Park, but yeah,
• 2:44:40
  I don't know that bank. Is, well, they also wall closed
• 2:44:42
  that one year or they're going through an ownership thing and
• 2:44:44
  they had to go run. What did they run?
• 2:44:46
  XDC basically layout. What fucking what year was that?
• 2:44:50
  Shit. That was before.
• 2:44:53
  That was so. I even drifted.
• 2:44:54
  Probably 2008. Yeah.
• 2:44:57
  Yeah, that was like right before I.
• 2:44:58
  Because wall just like randomly closed so they had to find
• 2:45:00
  another thing to bring in all the pits and it was wild.
• 2:45:05
  Tyler Mcquarrie was in the Porsche.
• 2:45:08
  Yeah, that was the sickest he. Couldn't chase but he could lead
• 2:45:11
  and like fucking psych you out. It was a car where you would.
• 2:45:14
  I saw that in the field and I was like, what the?
• 2:45:17
  And it was the owner of Hancock's GT3 car that they
• 2:45:21
  brought stateside, and then they just put their Hancock tire on
• 2:45:24
  it. And there's a lanternfly
• 2:45:26
  underneath you right now. What?
• 2:45:27
  How don't move the chair. I can't believe I'm witnessing
• 2:45:30
  this right. Now, do you not have
• 2:45:32
  lanternflies? Did we bring it?
• 2:45:35
  Maybe we brought it, yeah. They're just smush that in the
• 2:45:39
  carpet after Malcolm hired a cleaner to Yeah.
• 2:45:41
  Got it dude. These things should be dead by
• 2:45:44
  now. I don't know why.
• 2:45:45
  I don't think it's that cold yet.
• 2:45:47
  Dude, I can't believe I just witnessed that.
• 2:45:48
  How does it? How is it in here?
• 2:45:50
  We. Got a pocket earlier so I took.
• 2:45:52
  Him out, that must be it. There's a brief and now Frankie
• 2:45:56
  is going to eradicate everything.
• 2:45:58
  Eradicate is a crazy word. Get the guns out.
• 2:46:01
  Exterminate. Yeah.
• 2:46:03
  Sorry, it's probably. Eradicate's removed forcefully,
• 2:46:05
  is that what I mean? Oh yeah, no, Then eradicate.
• 2:46:09
  Here is what Frankie's. Gonna do set some bounds.
• 2:46:11
  Yeah, I don't like, I don't like invaders in this podcast room.
• 2:46:15
  Fuck, dude. I can't.
• 2:46:16
  I saw that corner of my eye. I was like, and then I saw it
• 2:46:19
  under the chair and I was like, that's not it.
• 2:46:20
  That's way too big, dude. I wish I.
• 2:46:22
  Got to experience some of that early, like under 2010, like pre
• 2:46:25
  2010 drifting. Yeah, I was.
• 2:46:29
  That was me in middle school. Were you at that event?
• 2:46:33
  At the D1 event at Racer Park? Yeah.
• 2:46:35
  The one that's on takes, Yeah. Fuck yeah.
• 2:46:38
  See. That was crashed.
• 2:46:39
  Jr. blew up his motor in the Mustang, so he drove his dude's
• 2:46:42
  Eric's Corolla. He's like best friend.
• 2:46:44
  Still, Turk was there in his car.
• 2:46:46
  Wilkerson what the fuck? House like, kumu koba like.
• 2:46:49
  Everybody that's like our dream event we wish we could go to.
• 2:46:52
  It was just cool, man. They they just like in my
• 2:46:57
  opinion, that was such a stylish looking.
• 2:47:00
  It's not more than four turns. I think it was like 1 and then
• 2:47:04
  around closer to the crowd and then.
• 2:47:07
  So we got we drove through the night to get there and they're
• 2:47:09
  like, we didn't get into the gate, but like, you know, you
• 2:47:11
  get to the gate and there's like the admin building to the right.
• 2:47:13
  So we just like parked over there and slept in the car and
• 2:47:15
  then like 6:00 AM, like we're hearing engines.
• 2:47:17
  They were like, what the fuck's going on?
• 2:47:19
  And it was Vaughn and someone else doing like whatever local
• 2:47:22
  news station, you know, at, you know, first on seven, like
• 2:47:26
  here's what's to expect today in New Jersey.
• 2:47:28
  And we didn't know that. So we like ran to the fence like
• 2:47:30
  first people to see anybody running that layout were like,
• 2:47:33
  this is crazy. And the his Mustang blew up like
• 2:47:35
  right away. So the red Corolla that he
• 2:47:39
  drives was his buddies. Oh, OK, that makes more.
• 2:47:42
  Sense that has like the random Falcon stickers all.
• 2:47:43
  Over it, yeah, yeah, I just love watching that crashes from that
• 2:47:47
  event. That whole tape is on YouTube.
• 2:47:49
  I don't know who posted it, but they have it.
• 2:47:51
  Even better, I just had like a point and shoot camera because
• 2:47:54
  they didn't. You applied for media and you're
• 2:47:56
  just the person that shows up. I didn't know.
• 2:47:59
  I never ran a game before, but at the end of the event they
• 2:48:02
  already gave out all the trophies.
• 2:48:03
  They gave media guys ride alongs and I had I got to ride in Noma
• 2:48:07
  Ken's R34 sedan. Swear to fucking.
• 2:48:11
  God bro. Swear to fucking God and you had
• 2:48:13
  to have pants. And I looked at my brother and I
• 2:48:15
  was like. Give me your fucking pants off.
• 2:48:16
  You know, give. Me your fucking pants.
• 2:48:18
  I was right. Backside all day long in shorts
• 2:48:20
  and then for me to ride in his car and it was Kuma, Kubo and
• 2:48:24
  whoever else will drive from Team Orange and they fucking
• 2:48:26
  pass each other. Oh my God.
• 2:48:28
  What is happening? That's the coolest story ever.
• 2:48:31
  I asked my friend to find that picture.
• 2:48:33
  It was on his Facebook and he's like, I had, I've changed.
• 2:48:35
  I don't have it dude. It's like you're the only person
• 2:48:38
  that had. That skyline is the only skyline
• 2:48:40
  I care about in Drift. It was insane, like.
• 2:48:42
  Like, I guess it was cool. Yeah.
• 2:48:44
  It was like, now looking back, like, damn, what the fuck?
• 2:48:46
  And there's like all those cars in like England or something
• 2:48:48
  now. Right.
• 2:48:49
  And they don't. That was like you.
• 2:48:52
  There was no YouTube. You can't just be like, no, you
• 2:48:54
  can't just be like drifting. And there was no skylines here
• 2:48:57
  like that. Was crazy, yeah, my friend was
• 2:48:59
  losing his ship more, but he couldn't fit in the car.
• 2:49:01
  So yeah, damn, it was crazy. But they had media ride alongs
• 2:49:05
  after the event. It was fucking crazy.
• 2:49:08
  Yeah, it was fucking crazy. And now they park cars there,
• 2:49:10
  park cars there. All the way up to that point,
• 2:49:13
  yeah. Oh shit, like the whole night
• 2:49:15
  moves area is. Gone.
• 2:49:16
  That's why you can't 'cause like I always wanted to like host.
• 2:49:19
  I guess they didn't. I know though what it looks
• 2:49:21
  like, but depth wise I guess I was.
• 2:49:24
  Awesome. It's like way.
• 2:49:25
  Of a little bit of it is probably still used for the car
• 2:49:28
  track. That building at the end, right?
• 2:49:29
  Basically. Yeah, yeah.
• 2:49:32
  It used to like, I feel like in that video you guys started way
• 2:49:35
  back. Yeah, Yep.
• 2:49:36
  Now there is. That's where I.
• 2:49:38
  Met Chelsea in like 2007 and his throttle cable broke no so he
• 2:49:44
  pegged it wide open and he was just cycling with the key the.
• 2:49:47
  Key ignition. Drift, yeah.
• 2:49:49
  Ignition drift. It was amazing.
• 2:49:51
  So that's the first time I met Chelsea because we both had
• 2:49:54
  Mianas. So I've known him since like
• 2:49:56
  2007 that. Is so crazy.
• 2:49:58
  We need to talk to, if we ever get him on here, we need to talk
• 2:50:00
  about that. Ignition Drift.
• 2:50:03
  I think Reese was the one that probably asked him about it.
• 2:50:07
  Someone brought up Volkswagens and Range Rovers.
• 2:50:10
  Is that you like Range Rovers? Are you a freak?
• 2:50:13
  Yeah, you just electrical problems.
• 2:50:14
  I like you, just like pain. Yeah, you're a masochist.
• 2:50:17
  Actually, I my second shop that I opened, I did Datsuns and I I
• 2:50:21
  like you fix a Datsun. It's VIX not coming back.
• 2:50:24
  So I was like, what sucks? Land Rover?
• 2:50:28
  Yeah, you fix a Land Rover, comes back twice.
• 2:50:30
  Oh yeah, you're lucky if it leaves fixed.
• 2:50:35
  We're looking for jobs I. Hear I had a English car shop
• 2:50:39
  where we did Land Rovers, Jaguars.
• 2:50:42
  Old stuff, old stuff. Like pre war MG.
• 2:50:46
  Pre war. What?
• 2:50:48
  Yeah, no. Yeah, I don't know what I was
• 2:50:50
  thinking. He.
• 2:50:51
  Hates himself. Yeah, what?
• 2:50:52
  Yeah, I made some questionable decisions in life.
• 2:50:56
  Jesus. Christ, Yeah.
• 2:50:57
  No, I, I. Yeah, you are AZ 31 owner.
• 2:51:00
  Oh, mic drop. Yeah, for.
• 2:51:02
  Sure, I got a weird soft spot for the ranges 'cause I just
• 2:51:04
  like what they stand for, you know what I mean?
• 2:51:06
  Like the what? Do they stand for?
• 2:51:08
  Just like going out and off roading and shit and then only
• 2:51:11
  the. Ones that had like the camel,
• 2:51:12
  yeah, the. Camel liver like that.
• 2:51:14
  That the ones that. Are just randomly on a farm.
• 2:51:16
  Broken down what I was. But they're like.
• 2:51:19
  Yeah. They're crazy.
• 2:51:20
  They they have a lot of tech in them.
• 2:51:22
  I feel like they were pretty sturdy.
• 2:51:24
  Probably. But this is kind of like horse
• 2:51:27
  country in Middleburg, VA. So like, it made sense that
• 2:51:29
  there's lots of shitty Range Rovers.
• 2:51:31
  Or not shitty, but well, the the wife's car the.
• 2:51:34
  Town that we lived outside of is Middleburg, and they think
• 2:51:38
  they're English. So if you have money, you better
• 2:51:41
  have an English car and you better have three because they
• 2:51:43
  don't run. So we did E type Jags and MGASM
• 2:51:49
  GB S, all that stuff. I restored Aston Martins for a
• 2:51:52
  while. We did DB sixes and what the
• 2:51:55
  fuck do you know? And now that I'm older, I'm
• 2:51:58
  like, just pull a Sienna in my Bay and let's work on it.
• 2:52:01
  I don't. I don't want to do that stuff
• 2:52:04
  anymore. Well, you could say you did it.
• 2:52:06
  Yeah, he. Could say he did a lot.
• 2:52:08
  Of stuff I think he's at a lot of.
• 2:52:09
  Different shops and everything, yeah.
• 2:52:11
  He just named two different spaces of shop.
• 2:52:14
  I've been at Hilliard for six years.
• 2:52:17
  I think this year, really. Yeah.
• 2:52:19
  Wow. Yeah, you're we're getting old.
• 2:52:21
  But we mostly do like Lexus and Toyota.
• 2:52:25
  Oh, now we're. Yeah.
• 2:52:26
  There we go. Stuff is, yeah.
• 2:52:28
  Yeah, yeah, it pays. I have a lot of bills because I
• 2:52:31
  have a lot of kids and that's what drives me to go to work.
• 2:52:36
  Next next question was unlimited money.
• 2:52:38
  What's your dream set up for a drift car?
• 2:52:41
  I would love to have R32 OK, and it doesn't have to be a 2 door
• 2:52:45
  because I'm a big guy. I'd I'd love to have a 4 door
• 2:52:48
  R32. Interesting.
• 2:52:50
  What about you? What engine?
• 2:52:51
  What engine is it it's going? To have an LS in it.
• 2:52:53
  Oh God. What the fuck, Ryan?
• 2:52:58
  No unlimited money. They're really good.
• 2:53:03
  They're really good. They're really good.
• 2:53:05
  We we talked about this me and my friends the other day in the
• 2:53:08
  chat because we were or like a bit of a heated cause the the
• 2:53:12
  weight of an LS is actually. They're so light.
• 2:53:16
  Nice. You have to appreciate that.
• 2:53:17
  It's nice, like do you know how much like an RB or a Jay-Z?
• 2:53:23
  Heavy as hell for what you get. So yeah, that was the main.
• 2:53:29
  They're good. I would have anything that Chris
• 2:53:32
  Tops would make at a shop, an HDK built car like from the
• 2:53:35
  drop. Whatever engine platform he
• 2:53:37
  would want to say is the best. What cars is the E?
• 2:53:41
  92's. Thought it was all BMW.
• 2:53:43
  He just sold one to Michael Schumacher or some shit like
• 2:53:45
  that. That car's wild.
• 2:53:47
  Yeah. Have you had have you drifted
• 2:53:48
  BMW's before or OK? They're sick.
• 2:53:52
  Yeah. Trailing arm that's.
• 2:53:53
  True, that's what everyone says. Front rack the damn trailing 40.
• 2:53:59
  6 is a solid drift car like if you're getting into drifting
• 2:54:02
  three DZ good E46 better, even better.
• 2:54:06
  And and I say that because the E46 is that car that everyone
• 2:54:11
  has made 15 forums to tell you how to fix.
• 2:54:14
  If you can't fix an E46, you did not open up YouTube, that's on
• 2:54:20
  you. So I think that's a really great
• 2:54:22
  starter car and I, and I think, you know, there's a lot of
• 2:54:25
  information on on repairing them and modifying them and.
• 2:54:28
  Chris Apps will make that too. Yeah, makes sense.
• 2:54:31
  Front rack. What does that do for the?
• 2:54:33
  I sell your lead tire, so think about your 240 on the stands.
• 2:54:38
  You go in and you're you're turning left to go into or no,
• 2:54:41
  we'll turn right to go up on the entry of regular E town.
• 2:54:44
  All your loads on your front wheel and your steering rack is
• 2:54:47
  from the back trying to push and pull your tire rod when your
• 2:54:51
  front rack your when your front rack, your steering is has the
• 2:54:55
  leverage on it instead of being pushed on, you're like almost
• 2:54:58
  letting it roll and you're pulling back on it.
• 2:55:01
  So your steering feel is more consistent and you don't get
• 2:55:03
  that over centre. Oh wow, it's a big difference.
• 2:55:05
  And I haven't driven a front rack S chassis yet, but driving
• 2:55:08
  a BMW and stuff, you're just like, oh it's so fluid and nice
• 2:55:11
  because of the location of the arm on your leading wheel.
• 2:55:14
  I think there's some other Japanese cars that are like
• 2:55:16
  that. Too, the E46 is so good, it's
• 2:55:18
  almost boring. I'll say that as as someone
• 2:55:20
  that's driven for a long time. You know, my boy Burke's got an
• 2:55:24
  E46 and he's done all the right stuff to it.
• 2:55:26
  It's it's like playing a video game.
• 2:55:29
  It goes exactly where you tell it to.
• 2:55:31
  Like you get an S chassis, you're on, you're on for a ride.
• 2:55:35
  Sure, but you know you can place the car in an E car.
• 2:55:40
  The 46 is solid. Yeah, I don't want to believe
• 2:55:44
  it. But I've heard.
• 2:55:45
  It I've like, how do you make it look cool too?
• 2:55:47
  I've never thought of the no you.
• 2:55:49
  Don't. It's a big turn off.
• 2:55:50
  Yeah. Where's yours now?
• 2:55:51
  Is it good? It's in the.
• 2:55:52
  Back, but the IS is like a the gripe that I have with it right
• 2:55:56
  now is that it's like a lazy drift car like it.
• 2:55:59
  You can make it heavy, you can make it drift and it would and
• 2:56:02
  it will drift, but it's like the best lead car.
• 2:56:05
  That's it. Like for me to make it.
• 2:56:07
  That's kind of my car with the VQ.
• 2:56:09
  Like it's just like, if you can give me clean air, I'm fucking.
• 2:56:12
  Out, yeah, like it's it's a good lead car.
• 2:56:14
  It will spin them and it will go where I want it to go, but
• 2:56:17
  that's it. It does not surge.
• 2:56:19
  It's still like the I mean you saw it outside like it's just a
• 2:56:25
  drift. It like just drifts.
• 2:56:26
  I mean there's those are coming up now also like I don't know
• 2:56:30
  why they haven't been maybe because they're mainly auto
• 2:56:33
  trans, but and people don't want to get a drift car and
• 2:56:35
  immediately. Have to build it.
• 2:56:36
  Build it and you. Have to, because you're not just
• 2:56:38
  going to do a trans, you're going to put on a rotisserie.
• 2:56:42
  Snowball. Oh, sorry, I.
• 2:56:46
  Don't know, it's just snowball I.
• 2:56:47
  Don't know, I, I tell people all the time that like a lot of kids
• 2:56:51
  come up to me and talk to me about that car that want to get
• 2:56:53
  into drift. They have like a Genesis or like
• 2:56:55
  a. This happens a lot actually.
• 2:56:58
  Who the fuck's got a Genesis? I don't know.
• 2:57:00
  Yeah, Genesis, I don't know, it's always a kid with a
• 2:57:02
  Genesis. We're like, dude, I have a.
• 2:57:04
  Wait. To be honest though, why are
• 2:57:05
  those not drifting? They're all destroyed and their
• 2:57:08
  rods are like this thin. Yeah, but I heard it was an Evo
• 2:57:11
  motor. Where the rods are this thin,
• 2:57:14
  they have a 20. There's two different.
• 2:57:16
  Yeah, the. 201 is, is I feel like a pretty sick car and then
• 2:57:18
  you just Weld the different and you're good.
• 2:57:20
  But then they but I think what kids see when they see my car is
• 2:57:23
  they think that it immediately looked and did that.
• 2:57:28
  I had to do that trans a gajillion times because there
• 2:57:32
  was like a lot of user error with each time.
• 2:57:35
  And then you know the the DIF needs to come out and then doing
• 2:57:38
  the DIF on that is not like a 240.
• 2:57:39
  It's like annoying because you have to either cut a little
• 2:57:42
  window or like get the right depth of sock of a socket and
• 2:57:48
  ratchet combo that fits in there without making too much of a
• 2:57:52
  fuss. And he was on the ground.
• 2:57:54
  And you're, and I'm on the ground and it's like if I was a
• 2:57:56
  new mechanic or somebody just getting into it, overwhelming.
• 2:58:00
  I'm done. Like, so I try to tell kids I'm
• 2:58:02
  like, this was like pretty not great car to get into this.
• 2:58:07
  But yeah, I kind of, I'm happy that people are making products
• 2:58:10
  for it because I've just been grabbing stuff from JZXS and
• 2:58:12
  like making them work. And I just like the way the car
• 2:58:16
  looked when I was a kid. It was the first car I seen with
• 2:58:17
  clear tails. And I was like, like, I love
• 2:58:21
  that. The ricer tails.
• 2:58:23
  Yeah, they were so cool and now I've broken them a lot.
• 2:58:26
  Dan, you've, you've had a lot of engines in S chassis, I would
• 2:58:30
  say, yeah. What top three engines that you
• 2:58:34
  would prefer to have in an S chassis?
• 2:58:38
  I had a fully built LS3 that was insane in the truck 40I mean it
• 2:58:42
  did like 480 wheel but I only ran 27535 615K pluses on it and
• 2:58:49
  it was fast as fuck. That probably felt awesome.
• 2:58:51
  I figured the first one was going to be LS.
• 2:58:54
  Yeah, but I don't want to pay for that.
• 2:58:56
  The KA was sick 'cause my current car came with it and
• 2:58:58
  that was good for when I was driving in Pro.
• 2:59:02
  I did then Ade swap 'cause that was easy.
• 2:59:06
  But then an HR has just blown it out of the water.
• 2:59:09
  Like I can keep up with his 480 wheel and not a good tire, but
• 2:59:14
  you're not the punching bag here.
• 2:59:15
  But I figured out my car so well, it's all too left and it's
• 2:59:21
  like super lightweight. As far as how I built it, 'cause
• 2:59:23
  I built it light before I made it fast.
• 2:59:25
  I made it fast by making it light.
• 2:59:26
  So I have fiberglass doors and everything is cut out, but it's
• 2:59:31
  still such a regular car just PBM dropping angles in the back
• 2:59:33
  V2 wise have up front and it's so fucking good Yeah so and.
• 2:59:37
  What kind of power? Like anything with the engine?
• 2:59:39
  Or is it just stopped? I mean it's got intakes and ISR
• 2:59:42
  headers so I'm going to claim 300 and it Revs like 82 so it's.
• 2:59:47
  Wow, that's sex. Screams yeah, my third gear is
• 2:59:50
  hell along. Does it sound good?
• 2:59:53
  Doesn't sound like a VQ. OK, that's good.
• 2:59:55
  Didn't I ask you this like last week?
• 2:59:57
  Like oh, I was talking to the other one.
• 2:59:59
  You got sound clips of this thing on your Instagram?
• 3:00:01
  Yeah, I lost to AHR as chassis. That thing moved crazy quick.
• 3:00:06
  Mikey Walsh. Yes, we've talked a lot about
• 3:00:09
  that. He's fast as hell with that car.
• 3:00:11
  I was like, Oh my gosh. Yeah, dude, I'm so worried about
• 3:00:15
  this car because it needs to sound good, because if it
• 3:00:18
  doesn't sound good, I don't even want to drive it.
• 3:00:20
  I don't know where a clip will be in.
• 3:00:21
  And The thing is, every time AVQ starts, I'm like, Oh no.
• 3:00:25
  OK, so like top left, right there with the blue card, that's
• 3:00:28
  Jacob, not one more left. That's Jacob Duncan.
• 3:00:31
  His is like 700 horsepower, but right, that's on the top of that
• 3:00:34
  bridge course sound clip. Where's the sound clip?
• 3:00:38
  I don't like post my own shit. Maybe that top right one with
• 3:00:41
  the Supra with Prez. Oh shit, so we match colors.
• 3:00:45
  Oh, there's no sound, but we have the same color his roof.
• 3:00:48
  Drift in the supra. I didn't know that he just drove
• 3:00:51
  it to clutch kickers. So we're the same colors and
• 3:00:53
  actually this is cool because we flip frame and you see the flake
• 3:00:57
  in mine. Hit the sound clip or yeah, it's
• 3:01:01
  just music. So himself.
• 3:01:05
  Maybe that one, the game car. Yeah, we'll try a couple more.
• 3:01:12
  Oh, and they're meta glasses. Oh yeah, we're just going to
• 3:01:15
  hear straight Mustang. The old Nissan verse 4 battle.
• 3:01:19
  They make movies without This is Langley, so this is down in
• 3:01:23
  Hampton Ridge, Virginia, and that's real fucking sick.
• 3:01:25
  The only thing I know about Langley is the FBI.
• 3:01:29
  Yeah, that's what they say. CIA.
• 3:01:30
  Well, CBI and Langley. Yeah.
• 3:01:33
  Fox bodies fucking get down too, actually.
• 3:01:35
  That one maybe? We ain't getting a sound clip.
• 3:01:38
  Yeah, right here. I do ruin this video.
• 3:01:42
  Oh, we're going to get. I can't play that.
• 3:01:43
  We can't. We're going to get.
• 3:01:44
  We're going to get. Whatever, it's a VQI.
• 3:01:46
  Don't believe you can't. Drone one that'll have it.
• 3:01:49
  Yeah, this is Jefferson. Look how sick Jefferson looks,
• 3:01:53
  dude. It.
• 3:01:54
  Looks. Awesome.
• 3:02:00
  Oh, we'd be whipping that shit sounds.
• 3:02:02
  A little bit better though. Oh, there it is.
• 3:02:07
  That is the sound of club lives right there dude.
• 3:02:10
  It is like. I get like E46M3.
• 3:02:13
  Vibes, yeah, that's what I feel like when you don't have just
• 3:02:16
  straight 3 inch all the way out. I heard it, I heard.
• 3:02:21
  So what's the normal red line 75 something?
• 3:02:25
  Is 8000 normal? I don't think there's a red line
• 3:02:28
  online. Oh.
• 3:02:30
  That's kind of high. So Mike from Team Hayes, he like
• 3:02:33
  works at whatever shop he does. And he like I told him, I don't
• 3:02:36
  know what my EC is tuned at, but like it's fast.
• 3:02:39
  He's like, you don't know what tune it is.
• 3:02:40
  Like no, he's like, well, I need to do this HR one anyways.
• 3:02:43
  Like can I just bring it to Drift Appalachia and like let
• 3:02:45
  you drive it? I was like, sure.
• 3:02:46
  So he just like gave me two in the morning and I was like, I
• 3:02:48
  don't know if I'm sucking or if like I feel like I'm not going
• 3:02:50
  as fast. He's like, what do you mean?
• 3:02:51
  I was like, I'm pretty sure I only saw like 6800.
• 3:02:54
  He's like, what do you usually Rev?
• 3:02:55
  I was like, I've definitely seen like 82.
• 3:02:58
  I got some sheets to use and put it back in and like he's
• 3:03:00
  literally like, alright, I heard the difference.
• 3:03:02
  Like you can give me that back. And I was like, do I not have a
• 3:03:04
  red line? And he's like, I don't know,
• 3:03:05
  damn, I've always driven the car like that.
• 3:03:07
  So like 5 years of. No, don't touch it.
• 3:03:10
  Then you got a secret sauce in there.
• 3:03:12
  That's the. Rockers have never been open.
• 3:03:14
  Even then it sounded. Funky and you never had any
• 3:03:16
  problems with your engine? It runs Damn.
• 3:03:19
  All right. Cool.
• 3:03:19
  Just keep the ECU. That's it.
• 3:03:21
  You just keep getting. Yeah, H Rs I had a really weird
• 3:03:24
  question in here. I'm going to kind of just try to
• 3:03:26
  make it this work. Any tips on how to not feel like
• 3:03:32
  killing yourself? That's deep.
• 3:03:34
  I don't know if it was a joke, but I'm going to take it as not
• 3:03:37
  a joke and I'm going to make it like let's just say people get
• 3:03:40
  stressed out with this shit and like, you know, cars brake and
• 3:03:43
  all that so. Whatever is in your capacity and
• 3:03:45
  don't worry about the perception of others on you and not
• 3:03:48
  performing. Just do what you can do and.
• 3:03:50
  Maybe not push yourself. You don't know what other people
• 3:03:52
  are expecting of you and you can only do what you can do.
• 3:03:56
  Did I ask that? Did I?
• 3:03:57
  You said did. I ask that shit.
• 3:03:59
  I was thinking about you too and I read.
• 3:04:01
  This you said IS300 earlier, so maybe it was him.
• 3:04:03
  Yeah. Do you have any, Ryan?
• 3:04:05
  You got anything? I, I, I do I, I think that is
• 3:04:09
  one of the reasons why I do drive.
• 3:04:11
  There's nothing better than driving when you were driving,
• 3:04:14
  especially a good drift car. There is nothing else in life
• 3:04:18
  that matters for that 4050 seconds.
• 3:04:21
  And you know, if you don't want to kill yourself, go out and buy
• 3:04:24
  a drift car. Just buy one that runs.
• 3:04:25
  Yeah, like we could take this question anyway either.
• 3:04:28
  Like maybe he doesn't drift yet, so maybe he's just depressed,
• 3:04:30
  you know? So maybe, yeah, get a drift car.
• 3:04:32
  Drifting. Get a ride.
• 3:04:33
  Yeah, go to 100 Drifters. I have a nicer seat on my
• 3:04:35
  passenger side than I do on my side, thanks to you.
• 3:04:38
  So yeah, come for a ride. Carl, you got any advice?
• 3:04:42
  What to not kill yourself? I like I like the do what's in
• 3:04:48
  your capacity thing and don't spread yourself too thin.
• 3:04:52
  Like when you know, you know, when you have a bunch of ideas
• 3:04:54
  and then you go to go do one of them and then you fail and then
• 3:04:56
  you're like, Oh my God, I have 99 more ideas that I need to do.
• 3:05:00
  You still got you still tried the one, you know what I mean?
• 3:05:03
  We could try 2345 and six, but there's no not going to be a
• 3:05:07
  2345 and six if you cut it short, you know what I mean?
• 3:05:10
  Definitely. Don't want to kill yourself?
• 3:05:11
  You want to just keep trying. None of us would be here if we
• 3:05:14
  stopped trying. Even with the podcast.
• 3:05:17
  The podcast was pretty BS ID in the beginning.
• 3:05:21
  It was complete 170. Holy shit.
• 3:05:25
  Or no one. You guys are like pros.
• 3:05:27
  Yeah, I guess we just do it every week.
• 3:05:29
  Not. Watch this many, by the way.
• 3:05:30
  That's fine. We have some people comment on
• 3:05:32
  the first one seven months ago because I like to like randomly
• 3:05:35
  read some of them and they commented seven months ago, I'm
• 3:05:39
  about to binge every single one of these and I was like, that
• 3:05:42
  would make me sick. Yeah, yeah, I can't listen the
• 3:05:45
  1st. Couple ones were so bad because
• 3:05:46
  the the mics were terrible and I'm like fuck, that kind of
• 3:05:48
  sucks because it's like people go back to the first to start
• 3:05:51
  and then they're like this is fucking terrible.
• 3:05:53
  Well. This is a serious setup guys.
• 3:05:55
  I just. Well, I, it is definitely
• 3:05:58
  serious setup, but I like it because now that we're not as
• 3:06:02
  intimidated by it, I feel like some people sit down in here and
• 3:06:05
  get intimidated by it. There's.
• 3:06:06
  We really just want to. It's like everything's hidden.
• 3:06:09
  Yeah, yeah. We try to make it like dude.
• 3:06:11
  They put it like in it was crazy, but I just, I like it
• 3:06:14
  because we don't even if you guys didn't want to, we wouldn't
• 3:06:18
  have even talked about drifting. We could have talked about food
• 3:06:20
  for two hours. That would.
• 3:06:20
  Have been Oh yeah, we don't give a damn.
• 3:06:22
  Sometimes we have like people on here who drift all the time.
• 3:06:24
  They don't want to talk about drifting.
• 3:06:25
  That's fine. I like that it's casual and
• 3:06:29
  that's what I like about it. Warm table.
• 3:06:31
  We get to, this is my one one day a week that I catch up with
• 3:06:34
  Frankie, you know, and that's good.
• 3:06:37
  I get to check in on him, make sure he's good, do a little
• 3:06:39
  Wellness check. Yeah, make sure you didn't kill
• 3:06:41
  yourself. Yeah, that too, you know.
• 3:06:44
  Yeah, no, it's fun. It's.
• 3:06:45
  Fun. Are we talking about that?
• 3:06:48
  No idea. Oh, because you were saying when
• 3:06:50
  you started this? Yeah, when you start something,
• 3:06:52
  it's it's always intimidating. So if you can just fuse that as
• 3:06:58
  a fuel for you to pop out super hard and then you get to enjoy
• 3:07:02
  the the fruits of your labor. You know what I mean?
• 3:07:05
  That first like like where the car like does everything.
• 3:07:09
  Well, even I didn't like going to big events at first 'cause I
• 3:07:12
  don't want people watching me. So like you can go to East Coast
• 3:07:15
  Drift School and just be you and Chris and get those jitters out
• 3:07:18
  and. Chris doesn't even have to.
• 3:07:21
  If you tell Chris like, hey, can I just go feel this one out and
• 3:07:25
  see what happens, Go ahead, go go do that.
• 3:07:28
  And then you go back to Chris and ask him for advice.
• 3:07:30
  He'll give you advice. Like he makes it such a great
• 3:07:33
  environment to learn. And that's like not a sponsor
• 3:07:35
  plug for sure. Not a sponsor plug by any means,
• 3:07:37
  but that is the best place to go to learn if you're in our area.
• 3:07:41
  Yeah, oh, 100%. Like it is the best.
• 3:07:43
  I hope it stays around for years to come.
• 3:07:46
  My advice on not killing yourself is get off the
• 3:07:48
  Internet. I could.
• 3:07:50
  Delete Instagram right now. Yeah, that's the only thing that
• 3:07:52
  makes me feel weird. The comparison is a thief of
• 3:07:55
  joy. Logic is also.
• 3:07:56
  And you don't even notice when it's happening either.
• 3:07:58
  Like people act like they notice, but you don't notice
• 3:08:00
  when you're going on Instagram. Then something triggers you.
• 3:08:02
  You don't even know what's happening.
• 3:08:03
  Sometimes I'll catch it and I'll be like, why'd that bother me?
• 3:08:06
  Yeah, that's true. I'm like why am I on this shit?
• 3:08:09
  Let me just get off this. Like what am I doing right now?
• 3:08:11
  Because you're not paying attention to what's around a
• 3:08:13
  conversation you might be missing.
• 3:08:15
  It's it's more prevalent with like having kids.
• 3:08:17
  Like you don't want to be looking at your phone.
• 3:08:19
  You don't want them. Looking at a tablet.
• 3:08:21
  Like that's what is like a really eye awakening thing.
• 3:08:24
  Yeah, and then other times you're like, oh, this shit's
• 3:08:27
  sick. I would have never saw this
• 3:08:28
  without. So it's.
• 3:08:30
  Tough double edged sword we're. Going to end this one on a nicer
• 3:08:33
  one. What's your go to McDonald's
• 3:08:35
  order? You already know mine, so.
• 3:08:38
  I don't know. The last thing I got was like
• 3:08:40
  the $5 meal. Do they have this up here where
• 3:08:42
  it's like, oh. Yeah, slider.
• 3:08:43
  Yep. Yeah, slider Nuggets.
• 3:08:46
  Damn. Yeah, Frankie, not everyone.
• 3:08:49
  Not. You don't need 2 meals.
• 3:08:51
  Oh, OK, no. You expensive.
• 3:08:53
  It's dumb like. McDonald's is, yeah, that's
• 3:08:56
  where you go to when you, you want to, you know, have a nice
• 3:08:59
  night. You should get one of those
• 3:09:00
  family. Have you ever like been through
• 3:09:01
  the app and gone to the family meal thing?
• 3:09:03
  $30 pack. Maybe I should?
• 3:09:05
  Yes, that's that's your value mail.
• 3:09:08
  Section. I should look into that.
• 3:09:10
  I like, I like the two, like cheap hamburger meal where you
• 3:09:14
  get like just a single Johnny's. Yeah.
• 3:09:17
  That's like, that's like what my dad would.
• 3:09:19
  Order I'm a my grandma. I'm actually I identify as a
• 3:09:22
  boomer because you can pee whatever you want, so.
• 3:09:28
  That identify as a fat fuck because.
• 3:09:29
  The order? Wait, do you get a Diet Coke
• 3:09:30
  with yours? No, I don't.
• 3:09:32
  I don't. Their fountain coke is like.
• 3:09:34
  Yeah, I know, I know, I've heard.
• 3:09:35
  If it's the straw is the magic. Apparently it's a straw.
• 3:09:38
  It's the perfect size I. Can see that.
• 3:09:40
  Yeah, it is a big bore in the straw.
• 3:09:43
  Wow. Like, by the way, by the way,
• 3:09:46
  the sea turtles are not endangered anymore.
• 3:09:47
  Just so let everyone know. No.
• 3:09:49
  Yeah. So the straws worked.
• 3:09:52
  That's what you I really don't. Think of West Coast.
• 3:09:54
  I really don't think it was a straws but.
• 3:09:56
  I thought it was more of like the fucking little plastic rings
• 3:09:59
  that you. Put on.
• 3:09:59
  We were told to cut. Yeah, I.
• 3:10:01
  Always do, still do. Yeah, I don't if I did anything.
• 3:10:04
  I don't either. I just buy the six pack that
• 3:10:06
  comes into cardboard like yeah, there it is.
• 3:10:08
  Yeah, but I don't know. I saw that this morning and I
• 3:10:10
  was like, maybe the straws did something, I don't know.
• 3:10:13
  So they're like done with the paper straw with bullshit.
• 3:10:15
  Hopefully. That can't be good for us.
• 3:10:18
  Dude, it's so annoying you're drinking.
• 3:10:20
  I mean the plastic. The plastic might be worse.
• 3:10:23
  Glue. Like the plastic might be worse,
• 3:10:25
  I don't know. I don't.
• 3:10:27
  Know plastic is fucking terrible for you?
• 3:10:29
  Water bottles are like super thin.
• 3:10:31
  This one's this is a thick boy. I remember when the water
• 3:10:33
  bottles got crazy thin. I was in high school.
• 3:10:35
  We were. It was like.
• 3:10:36
  I hated the caps. Yeah, the caps got small and
• 3:10:39
  then all of a sudden the water bottle was thin.
• 3:10:40
  You're like, what is this? It's created the tracks 'cause
• 3:10:43
  you can just like drink some and just squish it and plug.
• 3:10:45
  It in, yeah. Like that part's good.
• 3:10:46
  But hell yeah. Yeah, I guess it doesn't really
• 3:10:49
  matter, but it was just weird 'cause I was like, I don't think
• 3:10:52
  Dasani did that though. Dasani still got that big ass
• 3:10:54
  water bottle. That's like kind of.
• 3:10:55
  Dasani fucking sucks. I don't even.
• 3:10:57
  Yeah, I know. Everyone says that.
• 3:10:58
  I don't. That's the one with the green
• 3:11:00
  cap. Yes.
• 3:11:01
  It still feels like A2 litre cap still.
• 3:11:03
  Feels like a real bottle, yeah. I like deer this is this 1 is a
• 3:11:07
  cool lit. Deer Park is a solid.
• 3:11:09
  Sport Cap? Yep.
• 3:11:11
  I'll keep it, all right. We'll just.
• 3:11:12
  Talk the kids. We'll just keep talking water
• 3:11:14
  bottles at the point. All right.
• 3:11:16
  Thank you guys again. Yeah.
• 3:11:17
  Thank you guys so much for coming up that it was a pleasure
• 3:11:20
  meeting you. Coming to 100 fairies, yeah.
• 3:11:22
  So yes, perform, Yeah, and you guys can perform too.
• 3:11:25
  So perform is crazy, but yeah, we'll try.
• 3:11:27
  I would love to see Frank Guy have a big track that would be
• 3:11:31
  safe. Come down and I'll I'll
• 3:11:32
  guarantee you a ride in my car. I'm scared of that but.
• 3:11:36
  We're like, I got it down. Are you a good pass Like, you
• 3:11:38
  know, like I'm the? Worst, I'm a great.
• 3:11:39
  Passenger. I'm a horrible.
• 3:11:41
  I will be scared shitless in my chair.
• 3:11:44
  Yeah. And I've done that if I've done
• 3:11:45
  a track like a gajillion times. If I'm a passenger, horrible
• 3:11:48
  passenger, yeah. Very fast.
• 3:11:50
  Do you drive Rd. courses though? Like do you go up to where does
• 3:11:53
  Jimmy drive? What's that?
• 3:11:54
  Thompson. Thompson Speedway, yeah.
• 3:11:56
  Do you drive? Don't that isn't that like a
• 3:11:57
  good Rd. course that would be not E town but.
• 3:12:00
  I've done close, I've done pistol a few times.
• 3:12:03
  I'm like Shannon Duck. I drove final bout this year,
• 3:12:07
  not on a team, but because I judged.
• 3:12:09
  So then I was able to like fuck around and do that.
• 3:12:12
  So that was fun. I like doing high speed shit.
• 3:12:16
  SUMMIT, Maine. Summit, Maine.
• 3:12:17
  Summit, Maine. So.
• 3:12:20
  Sick I got to ride in Jefferson. I think now my car would be so
• 3:12:24
  fucking good there. It's ACD swap with a three nine.
• 3:12:29
  Wow, I didn't do the West series or.
• 3:12:31
  That's a better headache. Yeah, yeah, like after seeing a
• 3:12:34
  bunch of them blow out clutch too.
• 3:12:36
  It is horrible. It's AT 56 like internal slave
• 3:12:42
  using the factory Toyota Bell housing.
• 3:12:45
  So if you have to do the slave cylinder, you have to drop the
• 3:12:48
  trans. And I love dropping the trans.
• 3:12:50
  It's great. You have.
• 3:12:51
  ACD trans on yours and you have the internal slave.
• 3:12:54
  Yep. And you left it like that.
• 3:12:56
  Came like that. Well, you could do an external
• 3:12:58
  conversion if you wanted. I have one and I'm like, I don't
• 3:13:02
  need to do it, yeah. I don't want to do it either.
• 3:13:04
  No, you don't. I had to do it.
• 3:13:05
  I had to use Dimitri's trailer at Hyperfest actually two years
• 3:13:08
  ago to do a slave. I'm just thinking about the I'm
• 3:13:09
  like, this seems like a lot of extra bullshit that can break.
• 3:13:12
  There's not much bullshit in the way, but yeah, actually
• 3:13:15
  Wilkerson did the swap kit that I have for Wreck Magazine back
• 3:13:18
  in the day, Joey Redmond, who owned Wreck Magazine.
• 3:13:20
  OK. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 3:13:21
  So like, it was like a weird thing where it was done in the
• 3:13:23
  East Coast when the car got sold to Silas in Arizona and he
• 3:13:26
  finished the swap and got it like crazy.
• 3:13:29
  Wild story. But yeah, HR, it's pretty sick.
• 3:13:32
  My starter too. So that thing's been around,
• 3:13:33
  that engine's been in that car for a while.
• 3:13:38
  Yeah, when Wreck magazine was, Yeah, way back in the day.
• 3:13:40
  So. And it's still running good.
• 3:13:43
  Yeah. What the fuck dude?
• 3:13:44
  People talk shit about BQS but I think they.
• 3:13:46
  People are in HR. Yeah, I had.
• 3:13:48
  ADHR is just. Good too, but it only made like
• 3:13:50
  228 wheel on the link G4X. Wow and I have a stock HR and it
• 3:13:55
  fucking scoots. It's like real fucking fast
• 3:13:58
  actually. OK.
• 3:13:59
  Makes you feel a little. Better I love my CD trans dude.
• 3:14:01
  That should get some beating. Yeah, I love it doesn't.
• 3:14:05
  Yeah, the transmissions are good, obviously.
• 3:14:07
  Yeah and a 240 though they sit kind of low.
• 3:14:11
  It's. Yeah, it's heavy transmission.
• 3:14:14
  The back of mine scrapes the tail.
• 3:14:15
  Housing is fine, like the very tail.
• 3:14:17
  Housing. Yeah, that's what.
• 3:14:18
  I'm talking about, Oh yeah, there's this little like, nub.
• 3:14:20
  That comes down, Yeah. Yeah, it's gone.
• 3:14:22
  Yeah. Mine's gone.
• 3:14:24
  Mine is flat as fuck. And then mine's been like,
• 3:14:26
  shaved on the whole side, so it fits in like there's no nubs on
• 3:14:29
  the top either. Oh, that's all like round down.
• 3:14:31
  I didn't know that until I got it from Silas and then put it in
• 3:14:34
  my car and I was like, oh, that's why he shaved all this
• 3:14:36
  stuff off. Yeah.
• 3:14:38
  I just fitted it to mine, but thank you guys so much for
• 3:14:41
  coming. Nope.
• 3:14:41
  Yeah, man, he knows a hell of a drive.
• 3:14:44
  I gave him a 3D Z seat. Yes, I needed it.
• 3:14:46
  He saw it. I was like, yeah, you have it.
• 3:14:48
  I feel bad because I still have all the way up here.
• 3:14:51
  I got made out. I got a bunch of G30.
• 3:14:53
  I'm gonna go Fender shopping at We're going to check out.
• 3:14:57
  We'll see what we can do on that.
• 3:14:58
  Or the shelf. Yeah, yeah.
• 3:15:00
  Now is the time. I don't like I tell people.
• 3:15:02
  How do I enter the giveaways and they're good?
• 3:15:03
  Can I? Am I still eligible for?
• 3:15:04
  That no, we got to buy last month.
• 3:15:06
  You got to, you got to spend money on the on the website
• 3:15:08
  only. OK, why I could still do that?
• 3:15:10
  Why can't they buy it and then pick it up right here?
• 3:15:12
  The boy right here can't do it. Are you serious?
• 3:15:14
  The website was wrong. We'll talk about it after this,
• 3:15:16
  OK? Because that's an Ogura Racing
• 3:15:18
  Clutch Faction authorized dealer.
• 3:15:20
  By the way, how many shops do you know do that?
• 3:15:22
  How you say it, I don't know. Yeah, it is.
• 3:15:24
  That was pretty laguda. Oguda.
• 3:15:25
  Yeah, that is pretty good. It must be Japanese.
• 3:15:29
  ORCI don't know, I went there once.
• 3:15:31
  Daijo Wu. Malcolm, can you end this?
• 3:15:33
  Thank you guys so much for listening.
• 3:15:35
  This has been an amazing 1 yet again.
• 3:15:39
  Let us know what you think in the comments and see you on the
• 3:15:41
  next one. Bye, bye and.
• 3:15:45
  Then Malcolm likes to do this like 10 second pause here.
• 3:15:47
  I don't know why. All right, tell.
• 3:15:48
  People to do the 10. 2nd. Yeah, if you got it.
• 3:16:22
  Another amazing. Podcast.
• 3:16:24
  Yes, amazing podcast. Looks like they got you on The
• 3:16:27
  Drifters of December boat. Well, I kind of just want to go
• 3:16:31
  hang out since we didn't do anything else this year.
• 3:16:34
  Bring to Z. Yeah, yeah.
• 3:16:37
  We've got a month. We're bringing everyone else,
• 3:16:39
  Eddie, right? You coming?
• 3:16:41
  Staying at a Staying at a casino.
• 3:16:43
  We're staying at a casino. Yes, apparently.
• 3:16:47
  Apparently there's a casino there.
• 3:16:50
  Tom Nazaro says he's going. Wow.
• 3:16:53
  Look, I just got a, a marketplace thing.
• 3:16:57
  You still have the seat? No, I gave him, I gave that 350
• 3:17:00
  seat away to Dan when he walked in the shop.
• 3:17:01
  So he's like, travelled from Virginia to come, yes.
• 3:17:06
  Six hours away to just come here and hang out for three hours,
• 3:17:09
  that's. The far tip of Virginia of six
• 3:17:11
  hours, right? Oh my God.
• 3:17:12
  I. Felt so bad, but they were
• 3:17:14
  totally, they didn't care. They were like, yeah, we're here
• 3:17:17
  to hang out, talk. I'm like, pretty cool.
• 3:17:20
  So drift Nirvana. I think they call it Drifters of
• 3:17:24
  December now, not 100 Drifters of December.
• 3:17:27
  Cuz there's over 100. Yeah, I think there's way over
• 3:17:29
  100 now, so. Let's just call it Hella
• 3:17:31
  Drifters of December. OK, that's one option.
• 3:17:33
  Mad Drifters of December. OK, that's I don't know if they
• 3:17:38
  can call that, but yeah, Drifters of December works.
• 3:17:40
  So there's a flyer out there. We've been posting it up if you
• 3:17:44
  guys want to come to Summit Point and enjoy probably the
• 3:17:48
  last event we're. Just going to hang out and have
• 3:17:51
  fun. Yeah, I don't think we're going
• 3:17:52
  to sell merch. I could cry right now.
• 3:17:56
  But things might change. No, we might.
• 3:17:58
  You guys let us know if you want us to bring merch out, and then
• 3:18:01
  we'll bring him out. And yeah, yeah.
• 3:18:03
  So we really should, honestly. So anybody I I will hire you to
• 3:18:08
  take my position for 5 bucks an hour. 5 bucks an hour.
• 3:18:12
  That's all I could afford. Yeah, so I think we're gonna go
• 3:18:16
  down there, let us know if you guys want to see us out there.
• 3:18:17
  We're gonna be driving the Z probably let Chris Dr. the ZI
• 3:18:20
  think he wants to come out. Jesus might come with Arc 7,
• 3:18:25
  Daryl might come. I literally haven't even spoken
• 3:18:26
  to him about it. But hey, he might come and Carl
• 3:18:31
  says he's down so. With his IS.
• 3:18:33
  Yep, Yep, the IS. Dang.
• 3:18:36
  If it survives the week before when they're doing that other
• 3:18:39
  thing, cool. Yeah.
• 3:18:41
  So guys, I hope you enjoyed this one and check out the event.
• 3:18:45
  In other news, a guru racing clutch.
• 3:18:50
  New giveaway for the month. Well, and also we're just
• 3:18:52
  selling these clutches now. Yeah, new part.
• 3:18:54
  Not partner, but new. Kind of kind of is a partner
• 3:18:58
  partnership. You call it a partnership.
• 3:19:00
  You could call it a partnership. I mean, they shook hands.
• 3:19:03
  Yeah, we shook. We shook some hands.
• 3:19:05
  We made some deals. We're going to be an official
• 3:19:07
  installer for these clutches. They're going to be coming by
• 3:19:10
  and giving us a little training session too.
• 3:19:13
  So you know. Dead ass.
• 3:19:14
  Yeah, why? He looked at me and said dead
• 3:19:16
  ass under his breath. Dead ass.
• 3:19:20
  Yeah, yeah, that's part of it. Wow.
• 3:19:23
  So yeah, that's happening. And if you guys are at SEMA
• 3:19:26
  right now, you can go check out their booth.
• 3:19:29
  It's the last day of SEMA. They're probably.
• 3:19:30
  Not it is their last day. Yeah, today's the last day of
• 3:19:32
  SEMA. Yeah, Sunday I.
• 3:19:34
  Thought it was today's Friday. Oh my God, I'm smoked.
• 3:19:38
  What? I want to know why you thought
• 3:19:41
  it was Sunday. Right now we're at work.
• 3:19:43
  I don't know. I don't know why I thought it
• 3:19:45
  was Sunday. OK, anyway, if you guys are at
• 3:19:48
  SEMA right now, check out OR CS Booth, some of the best clutches
• 3:19:53
  on the market. We used to always import these
• 3:19:55
  things from Japan and it was always a hassle.
• 3:19:57
  Now it is not. Those are those those days are
• 3:20:00
  over boys. So let's get these clutches and
• 3:20:03
  if you need, they've got so many different power.
• 3:20:05
  It's like from 300 to 1000. Horsepower levels so.
• 3:20:10
  Yeah, like they have a clutch for every application.
• 3:20:13
  Yeah, and if you got a Euro car they got, they got you as well,
• 3:20:16
  I'm pretty sure. So that's what he was saying.
• 3:20:18
  All right, moving on. That is our raffle as well.
• 3:20:21
  So every $5 spent on the website this month gets you an entry to
• 3:20:24
  win an ORC clutch valued up to $1500, which pretty much covers
• 3:20:28
  about any clutch. Yeah, unless you need like an
• 3:20:30
  800 horsepower twin disc, then you might have to give us like
• 3:20:34
  500 bucks on top. Yeah, a little out of pocket,
• 3:20:36
  which is still not a big deal. $1500 off can't beat that.
• 3:20:40
  Can't beat the picture orders in on the website this month $5
• 3:20:44
  spent is 1 entry. Yes.
• 3:20:48
  Do we have any other parts on the website?
• 3:20:49
  Probably not actually. Yeah, we do.
• 3:20:51
  We got a whole bunch of parts on the website.
• 3:20:53
  What do you mean what's the actual?
• 3:20:54
  Motorsports just added recently added.
• 3:21:01
  Like Ken's been adding some. Yeah, we added some exhaust.
• 3:21:04
  Remark. Oh yeah, The remark exhaust, the
• 3:21:07
  remarkable back exhaust. They're remarkable.
• 3:21:09
  That's why they're called Remark.
• 3:21:11
  Yeah, I mean, they they look good and they sound all right.
• 3:21:14
  They basically are just muffler deletes too.
• 3:21:16
  Yeah, well, some of them. Some of them probably are real
• 3:21:18
  exhaust, but if. You're looking for an affordable
• 3:21:20
  little upgrade to make your car sound better.
• 3:21:22
  Remark. Exhaust.
• 3:21:23
  And if you can't afford it, guess what doesn't matter.
• 3:21:25
  We got a firm on the website. They got your back.
• 3:21:27
  So, you know, just affirm it and you can pay it as you go.
• 3:21:32
  Pay it, pay, get the part first. Pay weekly.
• 3:21:35
  Installments. Yeah, installments, probably
• 3:21:36
  monthly. I think a firm does monthly.
• 3:21:38
  Yeah, and weekly. And weekly.
• 3:21:40
  Damn. Whatever you can afford.
• 3:21:42
  Yeah, whatever you can afford, a firm's got your back.
• 3:21:44
  That's on our website as well. Guys, it's it's November.
• 3:21:51
  I don't want to say it, but I don't say it.
• 3:21:53
  I don't think we're doing any merch till February.
• 3:21:59
  Until the the next season. Not really the next season.
• 3:22:02
  I'm going to try to get it in before spring.
• 3:22:07
  OK, but like new designs? Yeah, I have a plan in my head
• 3:22:10
  and it and it requires February. So yeah.
• 3:22:14
  So we're I think we're going to wait on that.
• 3:22:16
  But we do have a lot of merch still in stock.
• 3:22:18
  We have the dude, the crew necks who was wearing that the other
• 3:22:23
  night at the haunted house. Something Ron or something?
• 3:22:27
  Ron Right. Someone was wearing the crew
• 3:22:29
  neck and I was like damn that crew neck looks good.
• 3:22:32
  Maybe it wasn't Ron, it was somebody.
• 3:22:34
  But yeah, it looks good. Was it Carl?
• 3:22:36
  It was Carl. Carl.
• 3:22:38
  And then Ron came in the next week of Baldwin.
• 3:22:40
  Yeah. And then Eric at the was like
• 3:22:41
  you. Had Eric ball one last.
• 3:22:43
  Night. Yeah, He's like, yeah, I got
• 3:22:43
  more of those. Yeah.
• 3:22:44
  So the guy I don't know, we need to, we need to Eddie, we need to
• 3:22:48
  market that crew neck better because that that crew neck is
• 3:22:50
  awesome. And we're, you know, we have, we
• 3:22:52
  have a bunch left in stock. We have beanies in stock.
• 3:22:56
  We have the long sleeve Embrace Temptation, Embrace Temptation
• 3:23:01
  shirt. Yeah, the long sleeve version.
• 3:23:02
  We still got those. That's my favorite.
• 3:23:03
  Shirt right now I need to get one of.
• 3:23:05
  Those the long sleeve is is pretty cool.
• 3:23:07
  So check out our merch on our website.
• 3:23:09
  We still have a bunch of stuff left and if you guys need any
• 3:23:13
  shop work done, Vapor honing, zinc plating, alignments, tire
• 3:23:17
  mounting, balancing, yeah, fabrication, dare I say it,
• 3:23:22
  winter is. Coming yeah, now is the time
• 3:23:24
  when a lot of people's car goes down and you got to put it in
• 3:23:27
  the shop Yep, give it some TLC. So now's the time to come on in,
• 3:23:31
  because we all. Know what's going to happen.
• 3:23:32
  You're going to remember in March that you needed to do all
• 3:23:36
  this stuff and then we're going to be booked up.
• 3:23:38
  So give us a call. Use our website.
• 3:23:42
  What do you call that, Eddie? A little website.
• 3:23:46
  What contact sheet? It's a good way to put it, a
• 3:23:49
  little con the contact form. Yeah, contact form.
• 3:23:52
  Service request. Yeah, use our service request
• 3:23:54
  form on the website if you want, and yeah, we'll get you in the
• 3:23:58
  schedule. Very, very much so.
• 3:24:02
  Also, YouTube is still on the rise.
• 3:24:06
  Watch those videos guys. Check it out if you haven't
• 3:24:08
  already. Subscribe, leave a comment like
• 3:24:11
  it. We've been getting a lot of
• 3:24:15
  interactions. Is that what you call it with
• 3:24:16
  our channel recently? Yeah.
• 3:24:18
  And we really appreciate it. It's it feels like the hard work
• 3:24:21
  it's has been paying off recently.
• 3:24:23
  And yeah, just share our videos and give them a a view if you
• 3:24:29
  can. Yeah, and if you're not
• 3:24:30
  subscribed to our YouTube. Yeah, that's I don't want to say
• 3:24:35
  it be fake as hell. Yeah, guys, give our YouTube a
• 3:24:39
  watch and please subscribe. We're trying to get these
• 3:24:41
  numbers up. Eddie, you might have a bonus
• 3:24:43
  run running on this. So you know Eddie out, get the
• 3:24:46
  subscriber count up for us and check out our Snap On videos.
• 3:24:49
  Everyone's been loving those. So we got a whole new
• 3:24:53
  demographic of viewers after the Snap On.
• 3:24:55
  Videos. One way to put it, yeah.
• 3:24:56
  Yeah, so check those out. And don't forget we do have a
• 3:24:59
  Patreon. There's three tiers.
• 3:25:03
  Check out the Patreon to see what the tears get you, but the
• 3:25:05
  cheapest 1 is $5 and we are now live streaming the podcasts on
• 3:25:11
  our Patreon while they're going on.
• 3:25:13
  So no more YouTube but true live stream.
• 3:25:15
  Yeah, If you guys are in the Patreon, you can watch it live
• 3:25:18
  and comment on the chat as well. So yes Sir.
• 3:25:22
  Yep, check that out and don't forget to give our sponsors a
• 3:25:26
  look. Yep, give them some love as
• 3:25:29
  well, Ram said. Manufacturing makes a great
• 3:25:32
  wheel fitment tool and anybody can use it and and everybody
• 3:25:37
  should have it to be. Honest, that's like one of the
• 3:25:39
  coolest tools to have in your arsenal.
• 3:25:41
  We saw them on our website and we sold out last week.
• 3:25:44
  We just got another restock now, so and.
• 3:25:47
  We already sold three of them. Oh my God.
• 3:25:49
  OK, yeah, so this is becoming the top selling product on our
• 3:25:53
  website, so give it a look if you haven't seen it yet.
• 3:25:56
  And we do have a YouTube video on it as as well.
• 3:25:58
  Don't forget Chase Bays if you need any dynamic fluid transfer
• 3:26:01
  products. Did I say that right?
• 3:26:03
  A diet. No, you it's.
• 3:26:06
  Chase, you got to make a new slogan, man.
• 3:26:08
  We we've been trying to get this.
• 3:26:09
  Down for a fluid transfer product.
• 3:26:10
  High end fluid transfer plot. It is so hard to memorize that,
• 3:26:14
  but it is so accurate as well. I can tell you that.
• 3:26:17
  God. Damn, he makes some good stuff.
• 3:26:18
  Yeah, so good looking stuff as well.
• 3:26:20
  Oh yeah, it's all, it's dude, all the fittings are black.
• 3:26:23
  They're not colored like Superman, you know, like all the
• 3:26:25
  other ones. They're just black.
• 3:26:28
  They fit in to any engine Bay. And yeah, oil coolers, power
• 3:26:33
  steering coolers, radiators, swap kits, brake master cylinder
• 3:26:37
  delete, not brake. You need that brake booster,
• 3:26:40
  delete kits, all that stuff. Check them out on our website.
• 3:26:44
  There should be a coupon code in the show notes of this episode,
• 3:26:47
  so. Yes, and be sure to check out
• 3:26:48
  Limitless Auto Fab for all your bash bar needs.
• 3:26:51
  They make some great quality stuff, good looking stuff.
• 3:26:54
  You can get a raw metal or black powder coat.
• 3:26:58
  Yeah, it's really helpful nowadays because everyone likes
• 3:27:01
  to quote UN quote door people. So door me, door me.
• 3:27:06
  So if you guys are into dooring your friends, it's good to have
• 3:27:09
  a bash bar in the car because when you spin out or your friend
• 3:27:11
  spins out and then they door you with their entire front end,
• 3:27:14
  it's going to make it a little bit better for them because
• 3:27:16
  their whole front end won't cave in.
• 3:27:17
  Dory, Dory, Dory doors. Yeah, well, so check them out.
• 3:27:24
  And of course, last but not least, East Coast Drift School.
• 3:27:28
  Guys, it's November, it's cold, the snows come in and East Coast
• 3:27:33
  Drift School ain't slowing down. So check them out.
• 3:27:36
  If you need any private seat, seat time or track time or you
• 3:27:39
  want to, you know, have a little get together with your buddies,
• 3:27:41
  you guys can do that as well down there.
• 3:27:43
  And if you have no idea what you're doing, Chris will help
• 3:27:46
  you out and show you the ropes. Located at Raceway Park, New
• 3:27:50
  Jersey, the best track in the world.
• 3:27:53
  I know there's been some rumors going on lately.
• 3:27:57
  The more you go down there, the more it helps the situation out.
• 3:28:00
  So hopefully we don't lose any more tracks, but you know,
• 3:28:03
  fingers crossed. All right, guys, that's all we
• 3:28:06
  got. Thank you, guys.
• 3:28:08
  Thank you for listening. Leave a review on this podcast
• 3:28:10
  on whatever listening platform you're using.
• 3:28:12
  Please and tell all your friends as well.
• 3:28:14
  Tell your friends, sucker. All right, bye.