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Jabbering Hominids · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 1: Hey everybody, my name is Jonathan Frakes and you're listening
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  Speaker 1: to Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 2: The following feature has been rated R by the Motion
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  Speaker 2: Picture Association of America.
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  Speaker 3: It is intended for mature audiences and parental discretion is advised.
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  Speaker 2: It's showtime, folks.
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  Speaker 4: Enjoy the show.
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  Speaker 1: Our nuclear reactor pumping out one million kilowatts of power.
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  Speaker 3: More cooling in the containment chamber.
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  Speaker 2: Scotty, beam me up.
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  Speaker 3: What's up and welcome to movie meltdown i'm brian and
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  Speaker 3: joining me today is i'm not even sure who it
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  Speaker 3: is you you tell me who is.
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  Speaker 1: This according to zoom i'm my wife right now but uh.
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  Speaker 3: That explains your very fetching photo i'm like that's normally
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  Speaker 3: not his look i i don't know what's going.
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  Speaker 1: On here but i don't know i'm changing it up
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  Speaker 1: changing it up new look new me it's all good
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  Speaker 1: it's all good well they say after you've been married
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  Speaker 1: for a long time you start looking like each other
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  Speaker 1: you know I.
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  Speaker 2: See couples that that's true with you guys. I don't
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  Speaker 2: think so, but I'm not around you every day.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: We'll have to check back in.
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  Speaker 1: We have had a, made a suicide pack. If we
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  Speaker 1: end up waking up one day and we look down
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  Speaker 1: and we're wearing matching red, white, and blue jogging suits.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, but that's going to be so cool. What are
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  Speaker 2: you thinking?
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  Speaker 1: We have, we have a, hiking poles and we're going
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  Speaker 1: around the neighborhood.
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  Speaker 2: Oh man, I'm looking forward to this. Let me know
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  Speaker 2: when this kicks in. I want a live feed on
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  Speaker 2: your activities these two.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: And since we're wearing jogging suits, they'll think we're a
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  Speaker 1: part of a cult.
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  Speaker 3: As long as you got the shoes on, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you gotta have the right tennis shoes or you can't
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  Speaker 3: be part of the cult.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Once your religious leader is picking out your
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  Speaker 1: shoes for you.
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  Speaker 2: It's time.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like that says something about your cult. I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: if the most important thing he has to worry about
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  Speaker 3: is what.
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  Speaker 2: Shoes you're wearing, you might be in the wrong cult.
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  Speaker 1: It's like the UFO is like Studio 54 and you're
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  Speaker 1: wearing the wrong stuff. They're not going to let you in.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: There's a bouncer at the door of Heaven's Gate.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no. You, you two.
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  Speaker 2: Hot chicks. Hot chicks. You can come in. You can
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  Speaker 2: come in.
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  Speaker 1: No, no.
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  Speaker 2: You losers stay over there with your tennis shoes.
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  Speaker 1: That's right. With your tennis shoes. Where's your white kids?
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  Speaker 2: Once again, we have distracted even your introduction. So, sir,
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  Speaker 2: as the case may be.
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  Speaker 1: Sam Drog. We'll be Sam today. And we'll be Sam.
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  Speaker 3: All right. If you've heard these episodes before, none of
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  Speaker 3: this will come as a surprise to you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: This is how they all start in the middle and end.
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  Speaker 3: So you'll be fine.
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  Speaker 1: God bless ADHD.
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  Speaker 2: And the medication that serves you.
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  Speaker 1: And the medication I did not take.
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  Speaker 2: We can't tell at all.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely. Yeah, man.
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  Speaker 1: Excellent.
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  Speaker 2: Excellent. So it had been a while. I was, I was,
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  Speaker 2: I was missing the Sam fix.
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  Speaker 3: And I was like, this, this week i think i'm
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  Speaker 3: gonna see if he's up for it and sucker that
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  Speaker 3: you all fell right into.
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  Speaker 1: My trap no no no this is the uh i
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  Speaker 1: look this is the only zoom call i look forward
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  Speaker 1: to this is the only one i do really yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I try to stay off of.
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  Speaker 3: It during the show normally but once again we haven't
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  Speaker 3: figured out that transport portal type of thing if we
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  Speaker 3: could come up with some sort of Doctor Strange portal
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  Speaker 3: to just get there within seconds. It would make this
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  Speaker 3: a lot easier.
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  Speaker 2: To do, but instead we have to use this Zoom portal,
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  Speaker 2: which is... It's fine. Whatever.
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  Speaker 1: So, the question is if they invent teleportation and the only...
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  Speaker 1: And the only side effect is it gives you explosive diarrhea.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Are you going to want to be on the
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  Speaker 3: other end of that process? See, if they do and
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  Speaker 3: they create it, will they at least make the portal
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  Speaker 3: boxes look exactly like Cronenberg's The Fly? Even if it
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  Speaker 3: works right, when you get in, you're like, oh man,
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  Speaker 3: I am screwed. Oh God.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the same portal, but it's got
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  Speaker 1: a toilet there because as soon as you come over,
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  Speaker 1: it's six seven minutes of non-stop a river runs through
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  Speaker 1: it you know anthony hopkins uh academy award winning uh
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  Speaker 1: actor uh.
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  Speaker 2: Get pretty pretty brad pitt.
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  Speaker 1: Come on yeah that was his most pretty maybe that
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  Speaker 1: was yeah it's it's it's it's disturbing how how people
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  Speaker 1: and pretty people in their prime are like uh it's
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  Speaker 1: like psychotically pretty, you know?
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  Speaker 3: It's almost just like- Weird offshoot from where you were
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  Speaker 3: just at, but- It reminded me, we sold t-shirts of
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  Speaker 3: that back in the olden days at the old video store.
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  Speaker 3: Most of our shirts were just like super geek heavy.
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  Speaker 3: Just here's your Star Wars stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Here's your super geeky.
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  Speaker 2: Mostly again, 99% guy stuff, guy stuff, you know?
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  Speaker 3: And then that movie came out and there was that
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  Speaker 3: reclined flowing hair.
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  Speaker 2: Shot of Brad on a black t-shirt. And underneath it,
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  Speaker 2: it said, legends of the fall oh my.
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  Speaker 5: Gosh ladies lined up and i was just like well
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  Speaker 5: they found one they found something that wasn't a dorky
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  Speaker 5: guy property to sell a t-shirt and i was i
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  Speaker 5: was pretty proud of them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah that's that's just like something it's almost
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  Speaker 1: like movies starring those people or like it's almost like
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  Speaker 1: a zoo that is like they bought a zoo no
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  Speaker 1: that's matt damon No, no. Zoo. Oh, we bought the zoo.
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  Speaker 3: Different pretty dude, I guess.
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  Speaker 2: Not quite Brad Pritt and his prime pretty, but he's
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  Speaker 2: all right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, no, no. He kind
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  Speaker 1: of looks like a... He looks to me not like
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  Speaker 1: a special ops person. He looks to me like a
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  Speaker 1: really intense, like a Denny's manager. Nowadays, nowadays, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I guess his talent, a bit.
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  Speaker 3: Of like the informant guy was his true calling.
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  Speaker 2: Like, right. Right.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Was like his real identity and everything else is just
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  Speaker 2: a lie.
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  Speaker 1: That's right. That's right. Back when he first became popular,
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  Speaker 1: my brother said the only role he should play is
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  Speaker 1: Is the mean, whatchamacallit, rowing captain of the evil rowing
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  Speaker 1: team on a rowing team, you know, underdog story.
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  Speaker 2: Like an 80s movie? Like Up the Creek, only a
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  Speaker 2: rowing team version of Up the Creek.
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  Speaker 1: Right, exactly. That's the only role he should ever be
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  Speaker 1: allowed to play.
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  Speaker 3: I love the amount of tangents and nonsense there. and
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  Speaker 3: references we've already gotten.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't even know how long we've been recording.
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  Speaker 1: What's going on?
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  Speaker 2: Hours, hours already.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm trying to backtrack a few things here. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: Transportation.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, transportation, diarrhea.
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  Speaker 2: First of all, you're not the.
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  Speaker 3: First person on this show to bring up the possibility
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  Speaker 3: of transportation.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Teleportation.
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  Speaker 2: Whether or not.
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  Speaker 3: You remember that episode, but there's at least one person
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  Speaker 3: on the show who's brought up the fact that teleportation
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  Speaker 3: is real and we have the technology. So you're not
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  Speaker 3: alone in that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, like, what?
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  Speaker 1: I didn't say that, did I?
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  Speaker 3: No, no.
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  Speaker 2: No joke. It was legitimately someone else, and they weren't joking.
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  Speaker 2: They may have been crazy, but they weren't joking.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, okay.
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  Speaker 2: We'll leave that for another time.
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  Speaker 1: All right, all right. But the.
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  Speaker 2: The thing I have is because you brought it up. Right.
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  Speaker 2: That's why I went with my Doctor Strange portal.
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  Speaker 3: I came up with a new option after watching all
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  Speaker 3: your Marvel movies because I was like, well, that just
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  Speaker 3: opens up a portal in space and time. You walk through,
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  Speaker 3: you're in the new place. That one doesn't creep me out.
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  Speaker 3: If you're doing Star Trek version.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, no, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: It's like it.
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  Speaker 1: No. You're dead.
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  Speaker 2: It disassembles you.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: And reassembles you somewhere else. That's not you anymore. It's
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  Speaker 2: like a copy of you.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: And then eventually you go all kinds of places and
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  Speaker 3: it's a copy of a copy of a, and then
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  Speaker 3: it's just multiplicity and you're just smacking yourself in the
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  Speaker 3: head with something.
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  Speaker 1: That's right. It's like problems. It is problems. It is problems.
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  Speaker 1: They never really address that enough. You know, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Star Trek motion picture kind of got into it a
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  Speaker 1: little bit, you know, but which I just recently watched.
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  Speaker 2: And you're awake currently?
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  Speaker 1: Wait a minute.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no. Can we just talk a moment about
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  Speaker 1: motion picture?
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: It has been a long time since I've seen it.
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  Speaker 3: And it feels like it's still going on right now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. All right.
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  Speaker 1: It's a totally different breed. By the time you get to, like,
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  Speaker 1: Star Trek 3, it's, like, a completely different type of series, right?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, even 2.
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  Speaker 2: Like, I think 2 turns that corner hard.
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  Speaker 3: Hard.
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  Speaker 2: Because I just rewatched that when talking to the director.
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  Speaker 2: And I was like... Oh, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: You're doing a whole different thing than what they handed
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  Speaker 3: you like that's amazing so yeah okay but but going
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  Speaker 3: back a movie what is your right motion picture right
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  Speaker 3: it's it's boring as hell right but but it's got
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  Speaker 3: this kind of gravitas to it.
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  Speaker 1: And it's actually trying to deal with an interesting idea,
• 10:21
  Speaker 1: you know, but here's the thing that kind of blew
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  Speaker 1: me away and sort of like, this is maybe revisiting movies.
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  Speaker 1: You used to love maybe the theme of the show here.
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  Speaker 1: Cause I've got a couple that I've revisited recently that
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  Speaker 1: didn't hold up. But Star Trek mission picture actually held
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  Speaker 1: up more for me this time. But you remember the
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  Speaker 1: scene at the beginning where they take 12 minutes to
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  Speaker 1: drive around and park the little pod into the Enterprise.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like that's the whole reason for that movie.
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  Speaker 3: They were like, look, I just saw 2001.
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  Speaker 2: 2001, right. And I just want to see a.
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  Speaker 3: Version of that only with the Enterprise.
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  Speaker 2: And they were like, well, let's see how many millions
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  Speaker 2: we can get together. Right.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. Exactly. It's basically saying like, look, we're not going
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  Speaker 1: to do Star Wars. We're going to do 2001 and
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  Speaker 1: we're going to, we're going to make Star Wars is
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  Speaker 1: like science fantasy. This is hard science fiction. This is
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  Speaker 1: for the real geeks. This isn't like for the nerd stuff, man.
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  Speaker 1: This is real nerd stuff. This isn't going to appeal
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  Speaker 1: to the general masses. This is only for people, you know,
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  Speaker 1: who are like.
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  Speaker 3: You know, sitting home on Sunday morning, writing for Star
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  Speaker 3: Trek to start.
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  Speaker 1: That's right.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Right. That scene though, we're, it takes them 45 minutes
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  Speaker 1: to find a parking spot.
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  Speaker 2: And they're the only ship.
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  Speaker 1: And their other ship, the wave in space guy. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: it's over there. That's probably the parking attendant. Say like,
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  Speaker 1: you've passed it back. Go back. That scene. When I
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  Speaker 1: first saw it, I love that scene. And I was like,
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  Speaker 1: the enterprise is so huge. Look how huge the enterprise is.
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  Speaker 1: It goes, It is massive. Look how massive this enterprise is.
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  Speaker 1: And I watched it the other day. I was going like,
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  Speaker 1: wait a second, that's just a model.
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  Speaker 2: That is not that big. You thought it was actually
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  Speaker 2: to scale built? They were like, they really spent their
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  Speaker 2: millions hardcore. They were like, they built a full scale enterprise.
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  Speaker 1: Holy cow, they went to space. I was just so much,
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  Speaker 1: I was just, as a kid, I was able to
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  Speaker 1: suspend my disbelief. When I watched it the other day,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I think I see some brushstrokes. Or
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  Speaker 1: I was going like, look at that little tinted glass window.
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  Speaker 1: There's nobody in there.
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  Speaker 2: That's just a model. This whole thing's a sham.
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  Speaker 1: This whole thing's a lie. This is a lie. This
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  Speaker 1: is all a lie.
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  Speaker 2: Movies have been lying to me all this time.
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  Speaker 1: But I was going like, holy cow. I really used
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  Speaker 1: to be able to, but watching it the other day,
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  Speaker 1: I was going like, wait a second. I mean, I
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: know everybody knows this already. This is not going to
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  Speaker 1: be news to anybody who listens.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Star Trek isn't real.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Wait a minute.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But I was just like, I.
• 13:13
  Speaker 3: Already suspect the Millennium Falcon's not really flying.
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  Speaker 2: Hold on a minute. This is all coming together.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It was weird. It was a weird experience. I was
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: going like, okay, so that's, that's like a model. That's really.
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  Speaker 3: As time's going on, I've gone like, I guess I
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  Speaker 3: knew that at some point, but now I've, I've.
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  Speaker 2: Leaned the other way.
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  Speaker 3: And so now when I look at that, I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: freaking impressive that model. So I go to the other
• 13:41
  Speaker 3: geek extreme of just like, okay, dudes and random ladies
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  Speaker 3: had to build these things. Look how meticulously everything was
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  Speaker 3: put together and the brush strokes.
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  Speaker 2: Are barely noticeable.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah. You really can't, you really can't see I'm
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  Speaker 1: being mean and everything, but I'm just saying, I'm just saying, no, I,
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  Speaker 1: and I agree with you, Brian. It's a, it's a,
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  Speaker 1: an amazing feat. of, uh, the way they shot it
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  Speaker 1: and the way they use the right lenses to make
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  Speaker 1: it look really big and did all the tricks in
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  Speaker 1: the book to make that scene work as well. I
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  Speaker 1: was just, it was just, uh, it was just like, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: wait a minute. I haven't seen this, you know, in
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  Speaker 1: 20 years and, you know, now with CG and everything,
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  Speaker 1: everything's so detailed and so precise and, you know, maybe, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: too much movement, you know, too much stuff going on
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  Speaker 1: in a shot.
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  Speaker 3: But, um, But even when it doesn't look good, I
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  Speaker 3: appreciate it. Like sometimes I will see your super low
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  Speaker 3: budget set. Well, and again, this is a weird thing
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  Speaker 3: about maybe just.
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  Speaker 2: Being an old man.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: But when it's older stuff, when it's.
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  Speaker 3: Stuff that like I know they physically built everything there.
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: Like I just look at it and go, yes, I
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: know your controller for that ship is a PVC pipe.
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: but somebody had to go to the home Depot and
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: cut off a piece of PVC pipe and they weld
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  Speaker 3: it together next to this thing.
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  Speaker 2: And they super glue this thing on. And like, even
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  Speaker 2: when it looks like crap, I'm just like.
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  Speaker 3: Somebody put a lot of time into building this thing.
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  Speaker 3: That's totally fake and doesn't do anything. Right.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 7: Right.
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  Speaker 1: That's kind of awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's totally awesome. It's totally awesome. Cause it, it exists and,
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  Speaker 1: And I tell you, the one you got to see
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: is it's a John Saxon movie. And it's called Queen
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  Speaker 1: of Blood.
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  Speaker 2: I was going to say that's.
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  Speaker 1: At least 28.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's in so many. I love that man,
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  Speaker 2: but he made a lot of low budget movies.
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  Speaker 1: Holy shit.
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And yes, he did. Well, this is John Saxon and
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: Dennis Hopper together.
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  Speaker 3: At last.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right. First time ever on the big screen. At first.
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: Since it's like Dennis Hopper's first movie. Finally, at first.
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right, exactly. Queen of Blood. So this guy, they
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: got the footage from a Soviet space movie and then
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: used all the effects shots, kind of like those knockoff
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: Indian Star Wars, Turkish Star Wars or something.
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  Speaker 3: I've heard the story of this movie. I don't remember
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  Speaker 3: if I sat down and watched it. But yeah, I
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: do remember they just sort of took someone else's movie.
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  Speaker 3: Let's shoot some scenes for it.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: And it's, it's pretty terrible, but it's got the effect
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: shots from, I guess, you know, uh, Soviet Russia. I
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: guess there was a lot of pressure to be awesome.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: So they're amazing. Right.
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: But they are like effect shots. It's not like stuff
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: they actually shot in space. Cause they were also doing
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: that too.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: Right. Right.
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: Ah, we lost another one. Um, but, uh, But yeah, no,
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: the effect shots are amazing. Dennis Hopper is really funny
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: because you can tell he doesn't even know he's in
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: a movie.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: He's on so many drugs, even then.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: Even then.
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: He was just like, hey man, I don't know where
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: I am right now, but this shit looks crazy.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: I guess I'm supposed to like be hitting on this
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: green woman. Anyway, it's a throwaway movie, but if you
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: want amazing handmade effects, this thing really was incredible. That's
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: a recommendation, but that was, yeah.
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: A lot of those ones from that time period, that's
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: the ones I'm always so impressed with.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: Cause I'm like, yes, I know it's not real.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: Look how many things they built for this. Not real nonsense.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: It just, I think more people should get together and
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: dedicate themselves to doing nonsense because then you're not really heard.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: That's kind of like what the movie industry was. Let's
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: get this whole population together. Let's keep them from, you know,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: committing crimes and robberies. We're just going to put them
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: all in this little like fake universe so they can
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: keep themselves busy making nonsense.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: So that's the working end of it.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: And then you're also like then after the fact, we
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: can just get them together in a dark room and
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: they'll be there.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: For like two hours, not destroying things or hurting each other.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: Like they'll just sit there and be quiet and calm.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: And that's like the system as a whole is just
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: like a just like an overwhelmed parent. They're like, just
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: give me two hours of peace.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Just please. Just sit still and stop doing stupid things
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: for like two hours.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: That's all I want. Because if you give these hominids
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: too much time on their hands, they're going to start
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: fighting with each other, picking each other apart.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: And we do.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: And we do. Let's make some nonsense to distract them.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: And that's what brings us here today.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Nonsense.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: That's at least distracting the two of us.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: There we go.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: I don't know if anybody else out there is going
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: to go along with this nonsense, but by the time
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: we're done, we're both going to be.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: Thrilled with it, I'm sure.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: I agree.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: This is exactly what we need to be doing. And so, yeah,
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: not only the creation and viewing of movies is a
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: huge distraction of nonsense, but then you know, you're not really,
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: you haven't really seen anything until you've discussed it on
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: a podcast.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: I don't think it counts personally.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: It doesn't until you've digested and spoken about it. It's
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: kind of like after you see a movie, you know,
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: I wait to read any reviews until I see it.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: And then I go through who agreed with me, you know, who,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: who saw what I saw, you know, start sifting through
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: the documentation.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: That is a special level of enjoyment. Yes. I was,
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: because if you remember, Not to change genres.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: But we did three full lengthy episodes on the rebooting
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: of Halloween.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: And we had a lot of things. to say in
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: the old horror club.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: And then randomly, like a week or so ago, I
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: was just like finding something on YouTube to kill a
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: few minutes while I was doing something just to distract
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: me to hear talking, which is most of my days now.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: Just someone else talking in my head to keep the
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: voices quiet. So I was doing that.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: And quite often I bring up the pitch meetings. I
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: am thoroughly entertained by those anyway.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: You're right.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Oh my God. Like I went through.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: Those last three and like they get better. Like the
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: first one is just like enough of the, but wait,
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: we already did. There's already two movies with that title.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: You're going to call it.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: So like it starts with the basic stuff, but because
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: the stories themselves get so ridiculous as the sequels go on,
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: like I was about to injure myself. laughing at two
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: and three oh god and and the reason it was
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: hitting me so hard he's like no no we talked
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: about that no we talked about that too like he
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: was hitting all the.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Points of the stuff that we specifically made.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: Fun of and i was like there's just a level
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: of appreciation that's so much more when you're like but
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: yes i also thought that was stupid you know yeah
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: yeah yeah i'm telling you No, no, totally.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: And then when, you know, when you read it from
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: a reviewer, you know, you go like, Oh good. Somebody,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: I wasn't just crazy, you know, that was bugging somebody else,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: you know?
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: No, those Halloween movies, those are the first one's got
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: some moments, but those are garbage. And, and, and part
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: two is probably, we probably talked about this last time.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Cause it was like, I mean, it's, it's wrong to
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: get this up, but I think it's like a, laugh
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: riot classic.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, it kind of, that's the thing.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: Like, I'm like, these are not good as Halloween movies,
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: but as entertainment.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: They're so insane. Yeah.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: It's weird to see such train wrecks shot so well
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: and so much, slick production and a list talent.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Like you're bringing in great actors. Like you're, you're putting
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: it on the screen visually effects wise, everything's there. And
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: then you get to the story and you're like, what
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: are we doing?
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: I don't, I mean, people have, you know, people have
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: secret lives, but Danny McBride being, uh, again, the guys
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: who did pineapple express to take over the Halloween franchise, uh,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: It's just a really weird.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: See, if you went back in time and told yourself that,
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: you'd be like, shut up.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Right. No way.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: It's almost like Jordan Peele.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: Uh, like came in a horror master, right? Right. He's
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: a comedy guy, but now he's a horror master. It
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: was like, Ooh, who else can we get? Who does
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: comedy that might have secret are latent abilities and, um,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: you know, Danny McBride, let's go carrot top. Who else?
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Don't invite it. Next thing you know, they'll be giving
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: him the Ninja turtles.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: Oh, oh no wait that's a different comedy guy I
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: mean at least they are comedy but what a weird
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: turn there too of like let's take a recognizable dude
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: and give him this other thing.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: That's really sort of successful.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: Because it doesn't ever really go away but at the
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: same time there hasn't been a fun movie that anybody
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: liked in about 25 years so like it's weird that
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: they keep hammering away at that turtles idea because it's
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: just I guess it just mints money and toys.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: For It does.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: That's their takeaway.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: It's like, we got to keep this thing going. Then
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: we keep selling toys. No matter how many terrible movies
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: we make, we keep selling toys.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: It worked for George. It worked for us.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: You know, we can keep making money. That's all we want.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Well, it's, and it's really, it's just, it's not, it's
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: not toys for children. It's, it's toys for the perpetual
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: children that grew up on the first time. That's right.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: That's right. I saw somebody. poses up that yeah i
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: bring in six figures a month you know but it
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: was like star wars.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: Figures okay that's only funny because it's true right right
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: as someone who buys a lot of crap they don't
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: need i yeah i get it i try to back
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: off on the toys but i find new ridiculous things
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: to oh i should start collecting that should you really
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: yeah i think you should Yeah, I mean, I read
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: this book, Paperbacks from Hell, which is just, you know,
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: about the paperback horror novels from the 60s, 70s, and 80s.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: You know? And you, I don't know, do you remember
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: going to, like, Eckerd Drugs or whatever drugstore was in
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: your area, and you'd go in, and they had, like,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: you know, the giant racks of paperbacks, and, you know...
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: say what you.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Gotta have the spinner racks the spinner racks.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Of the of the yeah the the pocket paperbacks you
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: know and everything and the and the artwork was always
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: so like oh my god.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: That was what won me over i you know as
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: you well know i'm illiterate so i didn't bother grabbing
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: them to read but i was so fascinated with the
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: artwork on all of those horror books and eventually i
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: got into the sci-fi ones too but the horror books
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: were just from the get-go were just.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Amazing amazing amazing i did like uh So yeah, I
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: read that. So I got this whole list of things
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: that I'm going like, Conkle, you do not need to
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: start hitting used bookstores and just collecting these things. You
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: don't need to. A, the print's so small, you can't
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: even read them anyway. There's your problem.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: But you have to be careful because that's a slippery slope.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: As I well know, not personally, but a certain member
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: of this crew will say is a.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: Hardcore book nerd and Yeah, kind of always was.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: But like in the last, I don't know, eight years
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: or so, it hit like this new it hit an
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: extra gear that I didn't think we knew was there.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: And like, essentially now I rarely even go over there.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: I just see photos, photos from inside the house. And
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: I'm just like, that's just a library.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Like you're just living in a library now, which is
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: still kind of awesome.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'd live at a library and I don't
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: know how to read, but there's still people.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: To hang out in, you know? So yeah, I'm getting
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: that bad with the movies.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: I keep, but I go the other way because I,
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: I went for a while there and I quit buying.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Stuff because a, I was poor. And like, and at
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: one point I was in like.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: A relationship that, you know, so you like are distracted
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: with other things, like having a life with someone.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: Well, that went away a long time ago. And I'm
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: assuming never coming back.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: So now in that meantime, movies have gone down to
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: like giveaway prices.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: For some of them. Yeah.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: So I keep running into stuff that I'm like, Oh,
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: I meant to watch that. Oh, I haven't seen that
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: in years. Oh.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: And for like, you know, a buck on DVD these days,
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: like you can pick up all these things. Yeah. Yeah.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: So I keep, so now I'm back into like cramming.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: Where can I put this stack of movies that I
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: haven't got around to watch yet? And like, so I'm
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: back in the physical media world more than I've been
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: for a long time because now it's so cheap. but
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: then it's the other side of the deal. Cause then
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: I also find like the special edition collectors, Blu-rays that
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: aren't super cheap. And I'm like, Oh, but I need
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: that obviously. And then I spend too much on that too.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: So no, no, too many things.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: I had to go on a sabbatical. I did also stop, uh,
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: sell buying DVDs like long time ago. And actually it
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: sold all my DVDs at one point. That's crazy talk. Yeah,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: I know. I'm stupid, but, uh, desperate times, desperate measures.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: I got 25 cents for this one.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: Just trying to make your monthly nut. All those DVDs
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: went away at one point. Anyway, it all went away
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: and then just in the pandemic, at some point, somebody
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: gave me a projector and then.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: Now you're even more fancy and high-tech.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm telling you. So then you get a projector
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: and I knew this was going to happen. I got
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: a projector. And so now it's a slippery slope. So
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: now all your DVDs look like the ones that you
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: didn't sell all look like crap projected. But now you
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: got to go to Blu-ray. But then you have to.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Be extra high def and then you got to get
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: a 4K and then you got to get a 7K.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: I don't know. They'll keep upgrading stuff. So you have
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: to keep getting better stuff.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: That's why I think I'm okay with, like, I don't
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: have a fancy TV. I barely have a functioning Blu-ray player.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: Like, as long as I can see it, it's fine.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Right, right, right.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: And there's something nice about it being on the shelf.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: It's something nice about you have access to it easily,
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: you know. And this is going to be real tech nerd.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: I feel like this sounds real tech nerdy. But it's
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: really like you do see the difference in the streaming.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: But mainly is my setup. I can't get. Listen to this.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: I'm just going to punch myself in the face.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Okay. I mean, you'll save a lot of bullies trouble.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: So go ahead.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: All right. Look, look, when I stream and it's probably
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: just my system, I can't get. Oh, my gosh. I'm
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: just going to punch myself in the face right now.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: All right. I can't get 5.1 surround sound on streaming.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: I can only get stereo. And so my Blu-rays, they
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: have 5.1.
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: So it's more.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know how.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Ow, my face. Ow, my face.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: I don't know how you're living. I mean, if you
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: want to call that living.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Stereo picture. Oh, my God.
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: No.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Stereo sound. I must be immersed, Brian. Listen, Brian, you
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: don't understand. I must be immersed in the experience.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: See, I recently a couple of times gone the other
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: way when I just something will strike me as like, oh.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: I want to watch that movie. And it won't be
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: one of the 4,000 sitting over there that I haven't
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: gotten around to watching. I will be like, oh, but
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: I want to watch that. And then I'm like, I'm
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: too much of a bastard to rent stuff sometimes. So
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: I'm like, is it on YouTube? Is it just on YouTube?
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: Because I'll fully give you money for like a physical copy.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: But renting a streaming just bugs the hell out of me.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: So I'm like, can I just, I'm already paying for
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: too many services.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Why is it not on these? Just show up for
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: free somewhere.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: So at least twice lately, I've found something and I'm like, okay, well,
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: here it is on YouTube or whatever.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, wow, this is arguably the worst.
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: Visual presentation of something I have ever seen. But at
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: that point, I'm already like, but I did want to
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: see it.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: And it's on right now. Yes.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: And so I'll sit there and every five minutes I'll go,
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: oh man, this is terrible. I really need to stop,
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: but I want to finish watching. So I watched the
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: entire full length movie on what is way worse than
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: a VHS quality picture. Like it looks like garbage and
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: I still will finish the movie.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: No, I, there is a charm to it when you're
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: watching that.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: And this isn't charming. It's just annoying.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: It reminds you of watching movies on super station. or
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: on 36, 36 was our, I don't know. We had 46,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: 36 and super station 17.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: We had better cable than that. Even back in the
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: old days, it didn't look this bad.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: It's probably gravity. Brian, I've got a question for you.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: This is, this is my last YouTube movie I watched
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: and I didn't put it on my letterbox account. So
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know how is I'm even remembering that I
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: watched this. Okay. Um, about a week ago two weeks
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: ago uh walking down the street uh my because we
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: were talking about how we went to new york when
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: we went when my wife and i went in our
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: 20s we navigated everything fine when we went you know
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: in 2019 in our mid-40s.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: We had a different experience It's a whole different world.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: There was a point in New York where we got
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: so swallowed up by the subway system. I was almost
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: ready to give up and just say like, I think
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: we live in the subways now.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: Back to the Ninja Turtles.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: I was like, all right, this is like a Clive
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: Barker ish maze.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: There was a midnight meat train running.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: There's like a midnight meat train mixed with like a,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: like a, like a like a doctor strange type you
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: know architecture morphing into hallways and were you running up
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: walls at some point at some point i was david
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: bowie was walking around you know.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: There's no bad side to any of this what are
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: you talking about i was like god put on some
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: pants bowie come.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: On uh or not or not.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Um and uh so so we were walking around And
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: I was just going like, I'm getting swallowed by the subway.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: I think this is our new home. I will be
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: the rat catcher and you will be, you know, I
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: don't know. Splinter. Splinter.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: And then you can have a rat and the rat catcher.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: There we go.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: A slice of pizza. Yeah.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Oh man, it's fantastic. I was planning my new life
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: down there. Anyway, so we were talking about that experience.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: And then she goes, I remember this movie called, that
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: creeped me out as a kid about these people trapped
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: in a subway station. And they're trying to get out
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: of the subway station after like some, some disaster underneath,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: you know?
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: And, and I can only hope it's some portion of daylight.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: I was thinking daylight, right? I was thinking Stallone, the
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: classic Stallone, Stallone.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: Movie, man.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. Absolutely. high point of Stallone's career definitely.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: I like that movie way more than most I like
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: that movie too.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: Because I'm a Poseidon adventure guy so I'm like it's
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: just Poseidon adventure with Rocky in it this is great.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: It's that CG stuff where they were kind of making
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: disaster movies were kind of making a comeback you know
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: in the.
• 34:07
  Speaker 8: Midnight they were trying they didn't work most of the
• 34:09
  Speaker 8: time no no but they were trying boy did they
• 34:13
  Speaker 8: try and and so yeah so I was thinking it
• 34:17
  Speaker 8: was daylight no she goes like no I was like
• 34:18
  Speaker 8: seven or eight I go like Brian, I had not
• 34:22
  Speaker 8: thought of this movie since I was probably six years old.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: And it popped into my head that I knew exactly
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: the movie she was talking about. And I was going like,
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: holy cow. This was one of the earliest movie memories
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: I have, you know, of seeing this movie. And I
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: go like, I know what movie you're talking about. And
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: it's got, anyway, I go like, but how will I
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: ever find it? We don't know the name.
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Five seconds. Old people talking about technology. Five seconds into it,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: go into a Google search. I find it. 20 seconds later,
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: I find it on YouTube. And then, you know, you're.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: Standing lost in the subway watching it.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no kidding. So we're Anyway,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: so yeah, the New York trip was years ago, but
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: that reminded her of this movie. That triggered this repressed
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: memory of the movie in my head that I hadn't
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: thought about. We go online, we find it on YouTube,
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: and we watch it. It's called Slow Walk to Sunlight.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: I think that's what it's called. And it's got James Brolin.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: It's a made-for-TV movie.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: This doesn't sound like Walk to Remember at all.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: Never mind.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: That's my favorite movie.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a disaster movie called Slow Walk to Sunset.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: That sounds like a On Golden Pond type thing. But Slow,
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: let me just type this, Slow Walk to.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Sounds like a 70s singer-songwriter album. Yeah, exactly.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: No, totally, totally.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: A little acoustic guitar going.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: Slow Walking, I'm mangling this. Anyway, I just did a
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: quick search for it. it's i'm not seeing it come
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: up so it.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: Doesn't exist it's you are totally.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Making this entire story is like hallucination and lies um.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: That's not the first time you've run into.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: That right right anyway it's kind of like a it's
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: it's got james brolin it's it's really really cool it's
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: very 70s But I guess it was during the disaster
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: movie cycle. So they kind of like did one for
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: the TV movie of the week.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: You know, I think they tried a few of those
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: over the years.
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: But you're kind of amazed by because now when I
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: think TV movie. Well, now that I think TV movie,
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: that's every movie. But yeah, pretty much. But when you
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: think TV movie, you're thinking like, you know, Hallmark type style.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: I was going to say, I got to one of
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: those lately.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: So let's not go down that road to tell you
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: about that.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: Now, please do. Please do. Because I'll just say that
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: this slow walk to sunset or sunlight or whatever it
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: was called. We found it. It was amazing and very
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: seventies and very well produced. And it's only like 67
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: minutes long. So anyway, tell me about.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: Your, well, first my question is which disaster are they
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: leaning into or what selection of multiple disasters?
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: Well, okay. So it's an earthquake movie.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: Nice. All right.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: So they're on the subway and there's a big earthquake
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: and everything goes off the tracks. So they, to, to,
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: to justify the low budget of the movie. Cause there's
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: only about seven people on the train. All right. They're
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: saying this is Sunday morning under wall street. And so
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: there's not a lot of people out.
• 37:51
  Speaker 8: All right.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: So anyway, just as a mutant creatures that live in
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: the sewer, right?
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Oh man, mutant creatures. No, it's, it's pure survival. It's
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: it's the train goes off the track. And then James
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: Brolin is like an off duty cop, you know, beat cop.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: who has to like walk every, get everybody to safety,
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: you know? And, and it's got, you know, like a
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: cool dialogue from the, from the air, you know? And
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: it's really interesting to see like how race relations were
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: portrayed in the movie and, and in like the, the
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: view of crime, like the lady says, Oh, I've got
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: this whistle. So if anybody tries to attack us on
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: the subway, I'll just blow this whistle.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: And, That was a thing back in the day.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: I'm going like, wow.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: So it was a cool, like little time capsule, but
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: it does have like this real mood. And there's like these, uh,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: Matt painting shots of like, uh, a collapsed, uh, subway,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: you know, that are really well done. And then the
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: movies just kind of got like this open ending, uh,
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: nebulous ending to it. That that's a little, little, uh,
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: adventurous for a TV movie. Uh, so yeah, They used.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: To do that kind of stuff.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: Now I feel like they don't ever pull that weird
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: swinging for the fences finale on some of these weird things.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: No, no. This was actually like... I mean, it was
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: the era of Duel, so I think they were actually
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: trying at the time to make good things. But yeah,
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's a high recommendation. It's only 67 minutes,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: so you can get it back to your life.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Know, that appeals to you, but, but no, tell me
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: about your TV movie.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: First off, this occurred.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: Well, again, we're, we're sidetracked among sidetracks, but this occurred
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: to me lately as there were rerunning the car and
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: I'm watching James Brolin. And I'm like, you know, as
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: big as he ever was, do you think he's bitter
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: that his son is a bigger star?
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: Cause now when people think Roland, they're going to think
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: of his son.
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: And I was like, he's just, yeah. Yeah.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: He kind of got eclipsed. You know, he never got
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: that a list, a list, a list, you know.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: Josh started off as a kid actor and then like,
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: he grew up and then became like a legitimately good actor.
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: And then like, so they started putting them in stuff.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: And then of course he gets in his tent pole releases,
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: but like, He just became a bigger star. And yeah,
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: so kind of overtook.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: The Brolin name.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: And do you think, you know, as proud of his
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: son as he must be, to some extent, he's still
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: an actor.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: He's still got a little ego. He's got to be like, dude,
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: what are you doing?
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: I should have totally like Estevez as you and give
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: you a different name so you could go be popular
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: with some, you know, use your mom's name or something.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: Leave me out of this.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: That's right. That's right. Yeah, totally. You're totally diluting my brand, son.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: I put out very important pieces of work, like the car,
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: that thing where I was stuck in a sewer somewhere.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: And my cameo in Pee Wee's Big Adventure.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: Which is maybe the pinnacle of his career.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: Like, I don't know if you can get a better
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: moment than that.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: I guess we shouldn't get lost down the Pee Wee Road.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: Right, or the James Brolin Road.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: Well, there's only so far you can go with the
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: James Brolin. Pee Wee is a whole other plateau.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, hold Pee Wee Herman. James Brolin in Amityville
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: Heart looking into the fire and going, I'm coming apart!
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: Great stuff. And I've never seen the movie, but the
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: poster to Night of the Jugular where it's like a
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: newspaper being ripped open as crazy looking James Brolin. I
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: might get the, I might have the wrong title again,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: but he's like ripping through. He's got to hold a knife.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: It looks like a crazy 1970s, big beard, crazy hair,
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: James Brolin at that. that to me looks like the
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: greatest movie ever made, but.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: I haven't seen it.
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: Again, as someone who used to make most of their
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: decisions based on the video box.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: Art, you know, absolutely.
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: Old school one sheets are amazing. And I would, I
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: would fall for that anytime, but absolutely.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: No, like, uh, we're one of the dumb groups. I
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: like thing are just newspaper ads from, uh, movie, uh,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: newspaper ads for movies from, you know, all these different decades.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: Like, That really was like a big deal. People really
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: don't know. Or for me, it was a big deal
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: looking through the movie section and seeing the artwork.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, that was even gone by the 90s because
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: I remember.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: Being in the video store looking at the video box
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: art for the newer stuff that was coming out when
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: it just became the heads Photoshopped next to each other.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: And I was like, this is horrible. Like, why do
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: they keep doing this? And like, everybody hated them, but
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: I guess it was just quick and easy. So they
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: just stuck with it because... At least 50% of the time,
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: that's what they did. They'd redo, even if it had
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: a good one sheet, originally, they would redo it and
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: just throw some floating heads on the front of a
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: VHS box and be like, here you go, buy this.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: It was so infuriating.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: Oh, no, no, totally, totally. And that's why buying physical
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: media now, I think they're mainly... appealing to the hardcore
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: movie nerds so the artwork is so much better and
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: if you don't like the artwork and a lot this
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: one company you can flip the flip the sleeve and
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: get the actual poster.
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: I think a couple of them started doing that giving
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: you alternate versions i'm like that's pretty.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: Fun yeah you've you've heard the uh the collective cry
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: of horror.
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: Well, the only geeks that are still buying physical media,
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: you got them at least give them some physical things
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: to play with.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: So absolutely.
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: Give us toys and an extra alternative box art, you know,
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: something like that.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: Something like that.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: They, You're talking about movies that give away prices. My
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: last trip to Walmart, I found Edward Scissorhands and Ed
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: Wood on Blue for five bucks. And I was going like,
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: holy cow.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: Like a two-pack version?
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: Nope, nope. Separate.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: Individuals, okay.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: No, okay. Five bucks for Ed. Five bucks for Ed.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: I've never made that connection before.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: Wait a minute.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: Wait a minute. He needs one more Ed movie, so
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: he can have a trilogy.
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: Anyway.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: I'm sure he can piece that together.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: The Ed Gorey story. I mean, come on. It's like,
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: you know, he makes a biopic about Edward Gorey. I mean,
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: that's money in the bank.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: A little more fun than the Ed Gein one that
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: I was going with.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: Oh my God, Tim Burton's Ed Gein would be the
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: greatest movie ever. Speaking about weird familial relationships. I wanted
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: to bring this up. I'm sorry if I'm, this is okay.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: So Ed says her hands bought it, viewed it last night,
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: tried to get my 11 year old to watch it
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: with me. I thought this, she likes all that lemony
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: stick at stuff. She likes all that Coraline stuff. I'm
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: going like, you know, this.
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: Is how you won yourself back over to watching stuff
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: because I have another generation to be like, Let's see
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: what they think of this.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: I keep trying.
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: That and the nieces and nephews are just like, get
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: away from us. We have things to do. They just
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: don't even entertain the ideas of hanging out and watching
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: a movie.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: I'm like, fine, whatever.
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: It's just me sitting here by myself forcing a dog
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: to watch movies.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: It's sad, really.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: It's very hit and miss. They would rather... My kids
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: would much rather watch a six hour reaction video to
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: an anime series. My 11 year old is watching reaction
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: videos of anime series, but the reaction is not people.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: There are these little cartoon anime people that don't move.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: And then their little text messages pop up and they're
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: standing around a little screen and they're watching. I'm going like,
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: I don't understand culture. I don't understand how you're watching this.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: I wish you were making that up, but I know
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: of the things I've seen, they're equally that dumb.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: So I'm just like, I, I know that you're not.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: And that's the sad.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: Part. It's like gotten so many, so many layers removed
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: from the actual experience. It's not about the, you know,
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, I get it. Sometimes I'll, I'll listen to
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: a podcast or watch a review. Cause I don't really,
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: I'm on the fence about the movie. So I'll just,
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: I'll kind of get the gist of it from the thing.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: You know, if I have any interest in seeing it,
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: I'll watch it before I do that. But anyway, so
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: Edward Scissorhands tried to get her to watch it. She
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: got about halfway. Now, this is the problem is sometimes
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: you go back and revisit things. They don't hold up.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: And but what I was having a good time with
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: this movie until she basically ruined it for me forever.
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: Oh, God.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: Where she said, Dad. I didn't know this was... I
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: thought this was going to be a horror movie, A,
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: because you didn't prep me for what kind of.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: Movie this is. I thought this was going to be about...
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: It's a fairy tale. What are you talking about?
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: I thought this was going to be about a guy
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: with scissor hands cutting people up and everything.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: That's Nightmare on Elm Street.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: We already have that. We can get to that one.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: But this movie is a love story.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: Dad. So this movie is a love story about a.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: Dad.
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: Dad.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: Dad. Dad.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: This movie is... this movie is about a guy falling
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: in love with his sister. Is that what this is about?
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: And I'm going like, well, no, no, just living together.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: And well, she goes like, so they adopted him. And
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: now he's like creeping on his sister. And I'm like, well,
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's an official adoption. Well, I
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: am going like, Don't say that stuff. Don't talk about that.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: Stop thinking things. I didn't tell you it was okay
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: to think.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: And wait a minute. And dad, she's like 16 or 17.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: And how old is Ed? I mean, he looks maybe 30,
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: but you know, he's been up in that castle for
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: how long? So, I mean, really he could be like,
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: you know, 80 years old and he's okay.
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: To creep on a young girl if she's a cheerleader
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: right I mean as long as you put her in.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: A cheerleader outfit it makes it.
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: Fine socially acceptable I mean that was kind of the
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: whole reason for Edward Scissorhands I think there was an
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: interview well I mean not to put words in Tim
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: Burton's mouth but like there's an interview with him at
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: the time they're shooting it And I guess coming off
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: of Beetlejuice and knowing what a creepy gothy kind of
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: girl that Winona was as a kid. He's like, there's
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: this quote of him just going, I really just wanted
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: to see her in a cheerleader outfit.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: Oh, God.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: And I was like, come on, Timmy.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: I was like, yes, you can think that, but don't
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: say it out loud.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So, yeah, he's a weirdo, but he's a weird
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: old guy.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: He's still a guy. You know, he's still a guy.
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: I forgave him of that. Although to me, it's the
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: blonde hair that throws me off.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: Like, yes, I agree.
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: Her and the cheerleader outfit's going to be adorable, but like,
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: I'm so not used to that blonde hair.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, at the time. And even now I'm just like, no, no,
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: that doesn't, no, that doesn't work.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: Like yeah it's it's it's weird it's weird to see
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: her as a blonde yeah but but uh yeah that's
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: so funny though even tim burton has a little bit
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: of a vin diesel in him.
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: Oh god don't ruin tim burton for me I still
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: appreciate him as the weird old dude that he is.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: I love Tim Burton movies. I mean, not all of them.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: I used to at that time love Tim Burton movies.
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: And I've come back around. He's redeeming himself these days.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: It's cool.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. No, he's cool.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: He's cool.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, but watching the movie, it is... I was
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: going like, you know, some of the things... I guess
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: once you've seen a movie a lot, you know, it's
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: like some of the things that you thought were subtext
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: or actually blatant text. Like, you know, it's kind of like, oh,
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: the artist who can't really join in with society, but
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: people enjoy the things that this artist makes, you know,
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: like the snow and, you know, destined to always be
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: an outsider. And I'm going like, all right. It's very... It's.
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: Not subtle, but at the same time, it works because
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: you and I were both those weirdo.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: Kids that were like, finally, somebody gets me. In love
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: with our sisters, right.
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: I mean....
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: I like mine now, but not in that way.
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: I get along with them.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: Right, right. So I'm going like... So there's Clueless, which
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: at least addresses it, but... You know, but then there's
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: like this one and I'm going like, yeah, well, thanks.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: You've kind of ruined Scissorhands for me. I know it's
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: not there. He's officially adopted, but I'm having trouble explaining.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, he just was hanging out there for a while.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: He was just really hanging out there.
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: I mean, it hadn't even been that long, so it's
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: not like it was... It'd be different if they grew
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: up together. Then you kind of become family, but if
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: somebody comes over to your house, you're not immediately family.
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: You've got to be immersed in there for a couple
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: of years at least, you know? So he's just a
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: visiting weird dude that he may or may not hook
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: up with.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: You know, he's a house guest and they do fall
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: in love pretty quick. I mean, there's just something, some
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: stuff going on.
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: At the time in that version of him.
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: Now later I'd be like, Oh God, Johnny Depp, get away.
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: But at the time you were like, okay, we all
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: can see.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The movie has the kind of the thing where
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: like the weird outsider comes to like a boring town
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: and like, gets everybody jazzed up and, you know, into.
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: Like, I will also say this occurred to me even
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: at the time a million years ago when I first
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: watched this movie.
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: And at the time I love Tim Burton. I love
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: Vincent price.
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: These are all amazing things, but I have to like,
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: even at the time I'm watching it going.
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: All right. So we're looking at the flip book here.
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: It's like messed up, you know, basic idea for a person, uh,
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: final version, he's all pretty and cool. Why is the
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: middle step adding scissors to his hands?
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: I'm like, don't get me wrong. I understand that's the
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: whole push of this movie.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: That's the gimmick.
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: That's the reason that he's a misfit. And that's the
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: reason we love him is because he's a misfit.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: But logically, is that a good idea? Right.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: Is that a good idea to put razor sharp scissors
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: unwieldy talons on the end of your I mean I
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: get the metaphor at the end you were going to.
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: Give him real hands so we couldn't have found a
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: better like how about nerf hands you know nerf.
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: Hands are way less dangerous and then.
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: You can still replace them with good hands like you
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: wanted to so it just seems like a bad.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: Move in the middle there He was obviously on his
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: own trip because, I mean, the man made the most
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: complicated cookie maker on the planet. I mean, those were
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: like sugar cookies. You know, he had like the wall
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: of industry to create the machine.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: That makes your cookies.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, what did what did. he do to become
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: like so independently wealthy that he could live in a
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: castle Dracula over suburbs, you know? So he must've had
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: a power ball.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: I'm going to say power ball. Cause that's my plan
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: when I win. I am so building a castle.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: And I am going to be that weird dude.
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: The whole town will be like, Oh God.
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: Oh God.
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: Uh, we get rid of him, but he's got too
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: much money. We can't do it. He won't go away.
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: So I totally am aiming for that. That's my plan.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, definitely. Definitely.
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: So anyway, he says like, finally I can get to
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: these inventions that I'm working on and you know, he's
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: not a bad inventor. He did create life or a
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: mechanical man that has a heart and soul. But yeah,
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: it's just like he's got little quirky idiosyncrasies where he's
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: got to put giant... Okay, if you're going to use
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: scissor hands, I mean, use safety scissors or something like that.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, get those kindergarten special ones so at least, you know, you're.
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: Not poking eyes out and shit. Yeah. Yeah. And them
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: putting him on the waterbed, bad on them. What did
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: they think was going to happen?
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: That is.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That is not Ed's fault, okay?
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: If Arkin wasn't such a joy to behold, that is
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: maybe his finest performance. And he's in a lot of
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: good stuff. But him in that movie, he's the most
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: lovable character ever.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: Dude, just make sort of the movie. And just the
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: right seasoning that that movie needed was that kind of
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: like uber dad, that every dad stereotype blurred together and
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: just Alan Arkin perfectly cast And it makes you, with
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: his death, I mean, it makes you want to just
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: go back and discover the things that you missed, the
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: movies that he was in that you maybe never saw,
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: you know?
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: Definitely.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: Dead people... Yeah, so Pee Wee Herman, I'm just glad
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: they've not mentioned the movie theater incident and all the eulogies.
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: They brought, well, a few of them, because even on
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: the news here, they were just like, sometimes known equally
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: as much for his bad decisions as his show business.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: I was just like, I don't know about as well.
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: I feel like people know Pee Wee for Pee Wee
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: even more. granted he is a figure with some problems
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: over the years, but you know, so luckily, but, but
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: that's the, I was kind of waiting to get into
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: more fights with people because I brought up on a
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: recent episode, somebody brought him up in, in negative terms
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: and I.
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: Was ready to throw down.
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 55:52
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: And then that's before I.
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: Knew there was even another charge in the middle there
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: that I won't get into, but also seems doctored up.
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: So I don't know, like, everything seems blown out of
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: proportion or I kind of wonder if people were just
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: gunning for him because a, he became successful and became
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: successful sort of related to kids.
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: But like, not really. I was like, he was never
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: for kids.
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: Like they gave him a kid show, even though, you know,
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: he started in Cheech and Chong movies and like doing
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: an adult standup show. And like, none of these things
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: were even Tim Burton's movie is.
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: Weird and screwed up and dark.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: And like, right.
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: So no, Never did he ask to be a kid's hero,
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: but they handed it to him.
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: What are you going to say?
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: No, right. Kids responded to him though. In the beginning,
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: it's kind of like he, it was a parody of
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: a kid. Yeah.
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: He's making fun of that kind of persona in a way,
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: but then when they, you know, when you wrap it
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: up and hand it to him and be like, here's
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: a whole lot of money.
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: And freedom to do whatever you want. What are you
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: going to not do that?
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: Hell, are you kidding? Are you kidding?
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: And he did such great stuff because he did like,
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: He brought in cartoons and animation and stop motion and like.
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: All this other stuff into this world.
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: And like it worked on some level that they weren't
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: prepared for. He probably wasn't prepared for it. So, yeah,
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: it was amazing how it just sort of gelled into
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: this own peewee land that like kids responded to. And
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: as they grew up, they continued to much like the
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: Edward Scissorhands thing. all i've seen on my feed this
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: last week and a half or more it's just every
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: day and like it doesn't stop there's still people throwing
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: out tributes and every one of them starts off.
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: Like look i was a weird kid.
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah and i you know i have nobody seemed to
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: get me and i felt like i was alone and
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: i first saw peewee and things kicked in and i
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: was like he's a weirdo and i'm a weirdo and
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: like i feel like we've got a a bond. And like,
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: I feel like there's other people out there, so I'm
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: not alone.
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: So it's like, it is that same thing of like just.
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: Being kind of a weirdo and then finding out, you know,
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: there's more to that. And there's other people out there
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: that are like you. And I don't know, that's so
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: much of what I've seen lately in the tributes. And
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: that's the part you have to kind of like be
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: amazed by how much people like we're, we're, taken with
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: him for that same reason of like, he's just not
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: a normal dude.
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: And that's what we love about him.
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: You know, I agree. I agree. I, I, I will admit,
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: I appreciate him more as an adult than I did
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: as a kid. I did find, um, the persona, uh,
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: don't throw down. Uh, I found him like a little
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: grading as a kid.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: Well, again, it became sort of a one note thing.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: It's like, here's my kid persona. And then like, once again,
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: it worked perfect in that movie.
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: Like it was meant, it was meant to be in
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: its full realization in Huey's big adventure.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: And it works like throughout that movie. It's still solid.
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: It's fun.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: It's goofy. But then you're like, okay, now we're going
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: to give you seasons of a television show. And you're like, but,
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: That's all he does.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: Right, right, right.
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: So he had to come up with other stuff to
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: throw in the show because it's like, all I do
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: is this goofy voice and laugh and act like a goofball.
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: But like, you know, there's only so much you can
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: do with that.
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, I agree. Like, again, I think he works
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: better as a weird, you know, offshoot thing.
• 59:19
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: But, you know, what worked on the TV worked. Yeah.
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: But it was usually built around the Peewee character, not
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: because of the Peewee character.
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: Well, and it is a singular, I will say, even
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: if I found a grading as a kid, it is
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: a very singular, as you're saying, universe as a singular universe,
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: kind of like a distillation and amplification of kid television shows.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: So it's kind of a parody while also being a
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: real thing. And it's got, I guess what you would say,
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: he's a weirdo, but he's got taste. I mean, that
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: was always true.
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: Again, the things that he brought in were so cool.
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: And we, as those little kids at the time, and
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: even younger, were just like, oh, this is the kind
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: of stuff that I like.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: I do like this animation. I do like this music
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: he's playing.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: All this other stuff he brought in was probably his
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: personal taste. And these were the more refined things he
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: could add to the show. Meanwhile, he still had to
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: do the goofy voice and wear the outfit.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: So it's like, I think he liked.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: the other aspects he brought to the show more than
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: his own PB character.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: Probably as time.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: I would imagine. I would imagine. Yeah.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, it was, it was his access to give
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: him the power to be able to make something that
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: was uniquely him. And, and so, yes, about being a
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: weird spastic kid, you know, who, but who is, who
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: is okay with themselves and not feeling like they're inferior
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: and almost like going like, Hey, you don't get me.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: That's your problem is very empowering for a kid when,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: and I'm thinking about the other role models that we
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: had and not saying Beware was a role model, but
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: I mean.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: He was kind of like in a way saying like,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: it's okay.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: Don't apologize.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: All these kids were attracted to his little world and
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: like the things that he brought into it, they responded to.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: So it's like, whether or not he personally was a
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: role model, but like the things that he opened.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: The things he opened their eyes to were like things
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: that brought them together and made them sort of the
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: culture that they became moving forward.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: If, I mean, if you weren't like, because I'm thinking
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: like the other eighties icons kind of like, like Rambo
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: or GI Joe or Arnold Schwarzenegger or something where you
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: just go like, I know, I've been to PE class.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: I'm never going to be Arnold Schwarzenegger. I'm never going
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: to be Sylvester Stallone. These are like the worst parts
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: of my day. And, you know, I don't know. I
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: don't have sports stars that I admire. But there's this
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: weird guy.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: I can be like that peewee.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: But I'm kind of, you know, Spaz is kind of
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: like a pet name of mine.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: That is my brand. I can be as fast, don't
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: you worry.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: Dude, without even trying, all right? So.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: I just need a suit, is what you're telling me.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: I am almost a star.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: That's all I need, right? Yeah, yeah, so I get it.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, I get it, you know? And so, yeah, so,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: you know, but... very talented.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: A lot of people who are sensitive and weird and
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: talented make bad decisions. I mean, everybody makes bad decisions.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: It's just a shame when you're a celebrity, every bad
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: decision you make is amplified on the front page of
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: the news. And people love to tear that tear into that,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: but you know, We all have things that we don't
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: want on the front page of the news. Leave Pee
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: Wee alone.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: And I feel like, especially then, the theater incident, I'm like,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: were they just gunning for him?
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: Because who else in that theater got arrested that day?
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: There was probably a senator.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: I'm sure there's tons of weird dudes sitting there doing
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: the same thing.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: That's what that place was for.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, look, it was just a dark time. That's
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: the reason you went there.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: I'm like, there's nothing wrong with the concept, more or less.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: Just not necessarily in public. But to me, you're not
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: in public there. You're in a place.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: People freak out because he was around kids. And I'm like,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: not in there. If you brought your kids to the
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: adult theater, that's on you. You're a bad parent.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: It's not like a Michael Jackson incident. It's just like
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: he was just another hominid trying to figure out. I'm
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: going to work in hominid several times here. He was
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: just another hominid. out there, you know, trying to get
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: through his day.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: Again, whether it was a good decision, probably not.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: But at the same time, who cares? He was just
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: a regular old dude.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: Like every other weirdo in that theater, he should be
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: allowed to do what everybody else does.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: But he wasn't because he.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: Was a celebrity and they Somebody, I feel again, I
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: feel like you wronged somebody and they were just like, oh, oh, no,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: I know your lifestyle. I got you.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: I just got away for the right opportunity. So somebody
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: knew what they were doing.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: We love we love. I mean, it's just, you know,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: people in general, we love bringing them up and tearing
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: them down. It's fun. It's like you wouldn't want to
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: watch a movie. about like a biopic movie where there
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: wasn't the tear down fall apart. I mean, that's the,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: and then the redemption.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: You have to have the dark turn at the commercial
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: break on your VH1 behind the scenes.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: Behind the music and then the dark times. Yes. We're
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: going to get to heroin. Okay. Everybody wants you to.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: Get, hurry up and get to the cocaine problem. We're
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: getting there. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So, you know, every, you
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: know it's it's just something it's drama it's human drama
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: we like to see these feudal lords fall from from
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: power you know and uh but so that happened to
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: him but he he rebounded give people have amnesia so
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: you know give it over people forget forgive whatever you know.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: They definitely did as time went on with him i
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: i noticed like again almost nobody ever once in a
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: while somebody make a smart ass comment in the comment
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: section but right for the most part like it was
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: just such an outpouring of, you.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: Know, admiration and love. And yeah.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: But at the same time, I'm like thinking about him,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: like getting just raked over the coals back in the day.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: Think about how far back. That's why I said somebody
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: was gunning for him because you could get away with
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: just about anything back then. Like they're, Nobody was in
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: there with a cell phone taking videos. Like nobody was texting.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: Hey, guess you just went in the portal.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: Right. Right.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: So think about what everybody has to go through now.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: Right. Stupid media world.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: We live in like, yeah. Can you imagine?
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: It's like the police state.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: It's like, it really is.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: You know, especially the celebrities, you know, I mean, I'm
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: not saying, oh, poor celebrities, you know, but I'm just
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: saying like, you know, it would suck. to like walk
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: out and have people videotaping you all day, you know,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: every moment, every moment. When do you pick your nose?
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: You know, you just have to have a closet in
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: your house somewhere. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: You kind of have to have a, uh, the altered
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: States chamber just so you can like.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: I need a few moments to myself to do some
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: horrible things that need to be done.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: Leave me alone.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Exactly.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: That happened to Fred Ward too. And you're going like
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: Fred Ward. Anyway, but whatever. I mean, that was the biggest, the, the,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: the beloved Plaza theater here in Atlanta, you know, that
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: we walked by when you visited.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: I remember it was very nice.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. That was like a porn theater for like,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: you know, 20 years or something. It's just, you know,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: now we can, now they can show stuff, you know.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: I mean that, that became what kept those theaters alive
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: for a long time.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: Now, most of the ones here all closed down anyway,
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: but in their final days.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: A lot of them became porn theaters because that was
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: the last. And that's why, like, again, we're putting it
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: in perspective of the time.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: That's why people went there to do that. Cause you
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: couldn't do it at all. You, you weren't watching it
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: on V. Well, at that point, at least you could
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: watch it on VHS. Maybe if you could get ahold
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: of one, but even then.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: It wasn't like simple and easy to do now. Within
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: 12 seconds, I can be watching porn right here as
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: I'm talking to you on the phone.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: I'm not as far as you know. I'm not doing
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: that right. But it's just so simple that like.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 3: You can be at your, on your phone at your
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: job and be like, huh, you know what?
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: I think I want to watch some porn right now.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: And you do.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: And like, it's just such a weird world that we
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: live in versus just 30 years ago.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: Like nothing like that. Like totally different experience.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: Just being alive was a totally different experience.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: Just be a, you don't have to worry about police.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: All right, buddy. Tell it to the judge. Nightstick.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: They found my stash of Playboys. It's pretty much all
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: you had back then.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: Right, right.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: Now you have access to every evil the universe has
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: ever made.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: Within moments, you can bring it up on your computer.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: It's a different world. I'm just waiting for my kid
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: to come to me and say, Dad, I'm really into
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: amputee dwarves.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: And you're like, ah, I'm like, why do you even
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: know about amputee dwarves?
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: Oh, you know, I found your videos.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: I learned it from watching you.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: You're not supposed to watch me.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: I mean, you can borrow the videos if you want,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: but wait till I leave the room.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: So anyway, so, so yeah, so it's just such a weird,
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: different time, you know? And, uh, but anyway, Paul Rubens, uh,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: he may, Rest in peace, Paul Rubens. He was a trailblazer.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, and I i give him credit for
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: a comedian that did not conform right he found his
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: weird thing and went yep nope i'm gonna keep doing
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: my weird thing and like can't even when he changed
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: gears and did other stuff like yeah it was always
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: a weird different thing like it just yeah it was
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 3: what he did. And eventually sometimes the world would agree
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 3: with him. And other times I'd just be like, Nope,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: you are right.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: You're a weird guy, you know? So what are you
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: going to do?
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: Pretty much dude. Pretty much.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: RIP Paul Rubens, you know, I mean, you know, it's just, uh,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: there will be, uh, discarded, uh, Paul Rubens, uh, uh,
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: plastic dolls in landfills for millennia to come. And one
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: day the aliens will land and find it. It was
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: like this and put it on a spaceship and you know,
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: people will be forever.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: What the hell was wrong with these people?
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: Blur, blah, blah. You know?
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: Well, I think it'll be a while. Cause that's what
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: I was thinking.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: As soon as it happened, I was like, Oh, those
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 3: toys are going to go up so much. Every dork
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: that sat on that boxed version of him that they
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: bought in 19-whatever.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: They just shot up in value.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: Pretty much, man. Pretty much an artifact of a different
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: time and different space. This reminds me of the Planet
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: of the Apes scene where it's like Dr. Zaius with
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: an ape makeup doll that talks.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. Let's ask the lawgiver.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: Right, right, right.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: Go to the sayer of monkey laws and see what
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: he says to us.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: So speaking of a different time, I think when we
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: threw out this concept, one of the things was just
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: the world upon us and the changes in the industry
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: that are going on that we were like, ah, odds
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: are we'll just get on that tangent and go on
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 3: for an hour or so.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: Did you want to address any of the things going
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: on right about now?
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: You know, you know, Brian, you know, the more I
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: thought about it, I don't have very many deep thoughts
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: about it. All right.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know if we have deep thoughts,
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: but we have a lot to say.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, yeah, we could talk about it. I mean,
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: I would just I guess I guess it's me over.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: All right. You got to understand there's things that are
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: happening and then there are things that are I just
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: think are happening because I don't get out much. And
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: so I'm just filling in the blanks with some hallucination.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: All right. So, you know, their original concept was, you know,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: the death of movies or something, which.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: I already argued with as soon as you brought it up.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: I was like, right. That's not how I'm looking at it.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: But whatever.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: We'll argue. Let's go.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: Honestly, honestly. Well, I guess it's just movies being special
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: or being something where I mean, there's probably more movies
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: being created now than ever. When I drive by the
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: local movie theater on a Friday or Saturday night, it
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: is usually packed.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: What's a movie theater? Right, right.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: But see, then there's that side.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: Tell us, Grandpa. Tell us more about this fictional place
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: you used to go to. Right.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: So there's the concept where movie theaters used to be
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: like a sacred space, right? And so I think because
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: of just movies being so everywhere and what a movie
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: is has been so diluted as in Now a movie
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: is really a limited series, like a mini series event.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: Like V, you know, everything, every movie is a V. Oh,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: if only every movie could be V. V, oh, the dream.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: Mark Singer everywhere, look.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: The dream, the dream. You know, lizard people eating hamsters.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: Diana with her face ripped off.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: Oh man, so good, so good, so good. But, you know,
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: so what a movie is a movie, you know, and
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: do people even care about movies anymore? I mean, that's what,
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: I guess I'm just seeing, I just know if my
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: parents said, hey, we get to go see a movie.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: Do you want to go see a movie? It was
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: like a big deal. And if I go to my
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: kids and say, hey, do you want to go see
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: a movie? They go like, meh, movie, schmovie.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: I have to.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: Sit still and I can't get on my phone and
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 3: I can't.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: Be watching something else at the same time I'm watching it.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I make my kids turn off their phones
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: if I take them. I go like, give me your phone.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: It drives me crazy if they check their phones. I mean,
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: movie Nazi. God, Dad.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: You're the worst.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: That's right. I'm going like, you haven't seen a movie
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: until you've talked about it on a podcast. You haven't
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: seen a movie unless I've texted through the entire thing.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: My thoughts every moment that I'm having watching the movie.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: I'm tweeting the movie.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, that is its own experience.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: It's fine.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: Except what's a tweet? Are you talking about x.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah no you're not because nobody's gonna call it that
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 3: it's such a weirdo.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: It's so like it's so basic to say like we're
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: gonna rebrand this and it's gonna be awesome and what
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: we could call it we could call it x.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: First of all man nobody's cared about that thing in
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: like 10 years it's like there's a handful of people
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: that still have their little groups that they like to
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: argue on there but they still don't like care about.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: It no nobody no nobody i know no look there's
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: people who understand twitter they are i think uh uh
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: geniuses and like technological gods that they got to figure
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: out how to make that work for them because for
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: me it just felt like spam coming out.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah i mean i just post the link there and
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 3: leave it at that i'm like yeah i don't like
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 3: i don't even interact with people on there anymore like
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 3: at least The old person that I am, Facebook is
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 3: good for that.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: Well, I can talk to.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: My old people, friends, like your message back and forth.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 3: And it still functions as much as I don't really
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: like Facebook. It's still like the most functional version of
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 3: like social interaction out there.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: That's right. But like the other ones are all just
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: so useless and nobody even interacts. And like, I like posting.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: my ridiculous pictures on Instagram, but does anybody give a
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: rat's ass? No, nobody cares. It goes out to a
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: billion people around the world and.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: I get three likes and I'm like, woohoo, this makes
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: it all worthwhile.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: Three? Wow, I wish I could get three likes.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: I know, that's the thing. That's a good day if
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: I get the three. I might as well be in
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: my mind. So I'm just like, it doesn't work that way. Like, so.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 3: There are some people that have figured out their own
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 3: magical algorithm and know how to reach people, but.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: For the most part, it doesn't really work like that
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: for a lot of people.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: At best, you.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: Just message your friend and be like, hey, did you
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: see that thing on TV yesterday? And they're like, what's TV?
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: The concept was just like, hey, people don't seem to.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: And I feel.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: Like you know, a Vatican one Catholic talking about, oh,
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: that Vatican two, where we're not talking Latin and the
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: masses anymore, you know, is just the end of all spirituality.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: If you're going to do the rest of this in Latin,
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: we're in trouble. I'm barely speaking. Barely.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: I'm with you. So, so I feel like it's like,
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: there's no reverence anymore. There's no, it's not a special
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: thing anymore. Everybody's like, is like a salad bar Catholic.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: You know, they just take, They don't want to watch.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: They don't want to go through the experience. They want
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: to see a distilled down reaction video of somebody. They
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: don't want to experience it themselves. They want to experience
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: through some personality commenting about it because then they'll know
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: how to react to it.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: It's almost like.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 3: The criticisms that John Williams used to have, like, you know,
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 3: telegraphing every emotional.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: Beat that you should be feeling, you know.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: Even my 15-year-old son goes like, oh my gosh, will
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: John Williams just back off a little bit?
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: No, he will not. He's an old man and he
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: knows how to do things.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: That's right. You will think what John Williams tells you
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: to think. And so that's sort of like when I
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: get a little go like, I go like, yeah, they
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: don't want to, you know, they've got to experience it
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: through this one lens of this one guy who's going
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: to tell them how ridiculous it is without them actually
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: seeing it and making that comment on their own. And then,
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: you know, but so anyway, it's not, it's, it's just
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: me being stupid.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: And it's just me being like, they're enjoying it in
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: a different way than I did. And, you know, it's
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: just shows you how quick, The world changes around you.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: And every day you're becoming more and more irrelevant. And so,
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: you know, you just got to kind of like huddle
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: together with like other people of your generation and just
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: become more and more out of date, you know, because,
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: you know, my daughter mentioned the fact that they're called
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: movies is like sounds hopelessly outdated. And they're called movies.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: They're like called talkies. I like those things.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: They are talkies, by the way.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: Talkies. They've got the move-in picture show. It sounds like
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: some kind of, I don't know. It's interesting, though. I
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: read how things are different now, how it used to
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: be something. I know it's just me being out of
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: touch with what's happening. I mean, I know. Disclaimer.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: To some extent, but in a way, you're right.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: Like, I feel like I can, I can, as time's
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 3: gone on being the old man I am, I can
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 3: still rant, but I'm also not your typical old man
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 3: because I still like pay attention to what's going on.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 3: to some extent in my weird filtered through my old
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 3: man way. So I don't pretend like I'm hip, but
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 3: I still try to at least pay attention to new things.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: So like I end up sort of straddling both. I'm like, yes,
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: I agree. It's not the way it used to be
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: at all.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 3: Right. And most people really don't give it that level
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 3: of reverence anymore. Like, Even if they like something, they
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 3: liked it. And five minutes later, they've moved on and
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 3: they've watched a new thing on TikTok since then.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: Right, right, right.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 3: There is a big shift in just like the culture
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 3: as it goes from one generation to the next and
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 3: now several down. It's like several generations of filtering through
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 3: this stuff. But at the same time, I've changed as
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: a person too enough that like sometimes I'm like, Just
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 3: fine being with the wave of people now that are
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 3: also like, but I don't.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: Really want to go.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 3: So I can be the old lazy bastard that I
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 3: am and be like, okay, but this thing right here
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 3: that I have in the stack of 400 Blu-rays over
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 3: here that I can't afford to keep buying.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: If I can watch that here, I can watch it
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: whenever the hell I want. Cause that's the thing.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 3: It's like, we were talking about new stuff that was
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 3: coming out and I'm like, except I haven't seen any
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 3: of these movies.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: We just, you know, list it off. And then you're like, well,
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: we're a part of the problem. Right.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: Which I was like, to some extent. But at the
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 3: same time, I'm like, I'm still enjoying movies.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 3: But I'm doing it at my own pace, in my
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 3: own place, in my own convenience. Like I'm enjoying all
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 3: of the convenient parts of being able to do it
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 3: when and wherever the hell you want. But yet when
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 3: I do it, I still like turn everything. Well, when
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 3: I'm actually paying attention to me like TV, I don't
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: treat that way. Like TV, I am working.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: On something else.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 3: I've got something else going on in the room. I'm
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 3: doing six things. And like, I just look up every
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 3: once in a while. Like, ah, there's that thing on TV, whatever.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 3: So like, I don't have any real reverence for it
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 3: unless it is a series. And then I do treat
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 3: it kind of like a movie and I stop what
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 3: I'm doing and pay attention.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: But normal broadcast crap.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 3: Like it's rare that I pay attention to almost at all,
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 3: but movies I treat as a separate special thing. So
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 3: it's like, okay, I'm stopping what I'm doing.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: I'm off the laptop. I'm off my phone. I'm turning
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: out the light half the time. Like, right.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 3: Like, focusing on the movies but i'm doing it when
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 3: i want and i'm doing it without other weirdos next
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 3: to me because that's the thing the last few times
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 3: i've went.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: I'm like i don't really want to sit this close
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: to this weird person.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: Dude ain't that the truth ain't.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 3: That the truth i didn't used to have that problem
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 3: but i think you know covid sitting around for years
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 3: by myself now i'm just like i'm really close to
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 3: this person i don't know.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: I think the last time we talked, we said, yeah,
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: I think people are different. Oh, I don't have to
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: be around people all day. That's true. I can do
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: it when I want to now, but I kind of
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: like certain aspects of the lock-in. But here's the problem.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: Here's the problem. All right. So, yes. I'm not going
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: to get into it. But it's I get into it here.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: You know, feel free to.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: That's I'm not going to get into it because, you know,
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: I get into something in detail on a podcast. But
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: it just sounds ridiculous. Like I'm a crazy person.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: But that's what podcaster for. OK. Crazy people to have
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: a voice.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: Right. OK. OK. So anyway, it's nothing it. thank god
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: it's gone i don't even remember what i was going
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: to say but uh so good good i've spared the listeners.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: There's another ramble coming just.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: Wait yeah yeah we'll bubble back up um but uh
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: but no no no no so movies uh and just
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: it's it's nothing new but my uh uh very modest
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: uh system at home which kind of looks like a
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: sheet on a, on a wall, you know, and I
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: got this projector, you know? Okay. So, so yeah, we've, we, we,
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: we've sunk probably what you would have spent, you know,
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: going to the movies for a year into a home system.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: And so the quality and the sound are, are so good.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: And you've always got your best seat and you've got
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: an unlimited supply of fresh coffee that, that you picked out.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: They won't give you at the theater, by the way.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: And if you, you know, sometimes you go to the
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: movie theater and say like, Hey, can I have a
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: cup of coffee? And they go like, and they bring
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: out one of those Keurig things. And you really, you,
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: you just want to die. You know, you just go like, nevermind.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: That's a whole nother road to head down.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to get into it. Not going to
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: get into it. Cause you know, it's not like I
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: have any class or taste or anything like that. But
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: when I see somebody try to give me a Keurig
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: cup of coffee, I become the Ratatouille food critic.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: It's weird that I was almost going to ask you
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: about that today.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 3: As I was getting my giant cup of coffee, because
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 3: I know someone else, someone who has been on this show,
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 3: and will freak the fuck out if you mention the
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 3: idea that you had a Keurig.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: And I'm just like, I don't really care.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: Like I just want some coffee and.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 3: Like, there's a, I go to fancier coffee, but no,
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 3: I'm just not that, I'm not that picky about it.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 3: I'm just like, I appreciate it when it's good, but
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 3: otherwise sometimes I just want something and I don't care.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: So I, but I was thinking that I was like, knowing.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 3: What I know about you, I bet you're going to
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 3: be really picky about, you know, something is.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: Low brow is a Keurig bird.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 3: No, no.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: And I'm, I'm cause I'm a, I'm a, I'm the problem.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: I know. It's like, it's like, it's like, I will
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: sit and watch like whatever Texas chainsaw crap is out,
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: you know, and everything. And, and, and like, you know,
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: it's not like I'm, I'm sitting around reading Proust early,
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: you know, war and peace and stuff. And like, you know,
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: only serve wine when it's time, you know?
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 3: Um, you like sunshine and your slasher movies.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm real low brow, but you know, uh, yeah, but,
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: but that's the slippery slope. You start getting a little
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: bit better on it and I'm not, but I do
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: like watching, uh, uh, reels on, you know, whatever, I
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: guess Instagram has got his own version of Tik TOK
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: or something. And like, I watch, uh, basically obsessive coffee people,
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: like spending 27 minutes to make one cup of coffee. And,
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm not at that level of it. I
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: do like watching their OCD going wild.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: And I appreciate it.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 3: At least I, when people get that hardcore into the
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 3: different processes, I'm like, I, would be if i again
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 3: if i had time to do that kind of stuff
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 3: i would invest more in like again i would like
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 3: to get to the point of like everybody else gets
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 3: to have their own coffee shop when i get my
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 3: own coffee shop i'll have different.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: Versions of that and we can go down that road and.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 3: I can kill 27 minutes because what else do i
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 3: got to do i'm at work now what do i
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 3: care right right but at home.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 2: Sometimes I got five minutes and I got to go
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: to work.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 3: So I'll play both sides of it.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: I don't care. Yeah.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: I get it, man.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: I get it.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: That's a, that's a good balanced way to live your life, Brian. Okay.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: You know, do not, that's the only aspect.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: Obviously, but also no, no, no, no. But also, you know,
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, really, I'd probably be like that. And I'm
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: just too lazy to be into anything too much. You know,
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's just, I don't, you know, that keeps
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: me from going off the end. Cause eventually, eventually energy
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: just runs out or I go like, Oh, that's so
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: much work. Yeah.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 3: That's, that's me every day at this point.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: That's why it's a fight to get these episodes out.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 3: It's like, that's the other thing I keep doing. And like,
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 3: there's times when I'm like, just want to go to
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 3: sleep right now.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: And sometimes I do. And that's why if it takes
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 2: a couple extra days, it's because I went to sleep
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: because I'm freaking tired. So I get it. I'm exhausted
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: just with life in general.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: It's just, it's just exhausting and everything's exhausting. And so,
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: you know, it's just, you know, I mean, yeah. So
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: it'd be great to be that obsessed with something, but
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: at a certain point, you know, it's just kind of
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: nice to zone out, you know? But yeah, so no,
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: you can have your coffee with you. You can have,
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: you know, whatever, you know, and you're not paying $ 5
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: for a cup of Keurig or you're not paying $ 20
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: for a popcorn and you're not.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 3: Or with normal people who have like children and shit,
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 3: you know, an extra hundred dollars to get a babysitter
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 3: and go eat dinner and like all of this crap that,
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 3: you know, again, I don't even worry about it, but yeah,
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 3: it's a whole.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: Nother level just to leave the house for so many people.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: That's right. That's right. Just to do normal things now
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: is so expensive and prohibitive that, you know, people kind
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: of have to like revert back to like collecting old
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: paperbacks and stuff like that because everything else is like,
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: so the mainstream going to see a ball game, going
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: to see a movie, you know, uh, doing, taking a vacation,
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: all that stuff is so expensive.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: Now it's, uh, This is why I don't do any
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: of these.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: You've really kind of got to go back to like
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: retro ways of enjoying yourself because the, what's popular right
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: now is, uh, though, you know, I mean, everybody's mostly
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: just hypnotized to their phones right now. So, I mean,
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: it's really just like that, that, that just costs your, uh,
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: internet bill and, uh, your cell phone thing. And so
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: that's pretty much it. And then you're just like, you're
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: all set, you know, I mean, why ever do anything?
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: Right. which is what a lot of people do.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 3: Like there are a ton of people that are just like,
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 3: this is how they get through their day. And like,
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 3: when you suggest going to something, they're just like, what
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 3: are you talking about?
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: Like, I really feel like there are a lot of
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 2: people that just don't go do things. And like, I'm,
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: I'm getting to that point because.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 3: I do see things that I used to go do
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 3: this kind of thing.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: And now look at it and go, I'm just, I'm tired.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: I'm tired.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: Here's the hope, though. Here's the hope of tomorrow. I'm
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: just going to go on this road.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: Here's the hope.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: My daughter, my 17-year-old, she bought a CD the other day.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: Classic. That's how I live.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: This is weird.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: I did, too.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: I still do that.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 4: Awesome.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: She showed me that.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: Uh like these midwestern goodwills post their stuff that they
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: can't move on ebay and so she bought a what
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: like a panic at the disco cd from a goodwill
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: in colorado.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: What anyway so convoluted so.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: Convoluted right and so she opened up and she goes
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: like i've never seen this artwork oh my gosh and
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: inside here there's all the lyrics and i'm going like
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: i'm going like.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: It's like a paperback It's a physical thing. It's amazing.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: And you're holding it and you're going like, that was
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: the whole point. It's like, you took time out of
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: your day to listen to music, you know? I mean,
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: it was something, it was, you took time out of
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: your day to watch movies. You took time out of
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: your day to listen to music. You would go from album,
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: from first track to last track, looking at the artwork,
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: reading along with the lyrics, really taking space to enjoy these,
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: these culture products, you know, these cut, these, these out,
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: these outpourings of expression, you know, and commercialize or whatever
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: somebody had to, and it was just certain thing, you know, and, um,
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: That is lost now, I feel. And I think they
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: feel that. I mean, I think they feel that there's
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: something missing and constantly available.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 3: They probably don't even know what, you know, because they
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 3: didn't have that.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: They never had it.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: They didn't grow up with that.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 3: So, like, it's... When you get that glimpse of a
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 3: retro view that weird old guys are talking about on
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 3: the podcast, it probably hits them a little weird.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: And they're just like, what is this feeling?
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: Why would you do it that way? That does... that
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: is not efficient. You know, there is so much easier
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: ways to do this, but so there's easier ways to
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: do it. I can watch a movie at the house,
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: you know, going to the movie theater. If certain changes
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: in the movie theater experience, you know, over the years have,
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: have made it not what it was, you know, first
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: it was, You know, the curtain up didn't come up anymore.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: And then there was like there's like an hour of
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: commercials before you even get to the trailer. No joke, man. Dude, absolutely.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: That is crazy. Now our commercials, all that stuff. And
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: then and then there was the trend. I do like
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: the idea of the assigned seating, but sometimes, you know.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: You know, sometimes that doesn't work out.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 3: I think that saved me from like completely not wanting
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 3: to go because now at least I don't have to
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 3: show up early because I'm already going to sit there
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 3: for an hour beforehand watching.
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: So I definitely don't want to get there an extra
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  Speaker 2: 45 minutes early just to find a seat. So that
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  Speaker 2: was good.
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  Speaker 1: And so then you don't have to be disappointed when
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: you show up to the theater and like, oh, your
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: seat is gone.
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  Speaker 3: Except that still kind of happens but mostly because people
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  Speaker 3: are dumb because the last the last movie i went
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  Speaker 3: to i bought a seat i bought a seat like
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  Speaker 3: a week ahead of time because i knew or at
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  Speaker 3: least a few days i think that one usually i'm
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  Speaker 3: like a good week ahead of time because i'm like
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  Speaker 3: i there's only a handful of movies i bother to
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  Speaker 3: go see i'm gonna plan ahead right so like this
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  Speaker 3: last one i went you know i went online i
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 3: got the seat i was all set i got there
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  Speaker 3: there's people in it those people are like I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: they're just a dumb family. Just no offense to them,
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  Speaker 3: but they're a dumb family. And I was just like,
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  Speaker 3: I don't feel like fighting and making all you idiots move.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm like, I'm just going to, I'm.
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  Speaker 3: Going to say, I'm going to sit as close as
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  Speaker 3: I can to where I was supposed to be. And
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  Speaker 3: then if, if this all goes to hell, I'll get
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  Speaker 3: up and move because somebody else is probably going to
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  Speaker 3: need to sit here pretty soon.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And no joke, before the.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 3: Movie started, an entire other dumb family comes in and
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 3: is like, are you in 13 F?
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: And they'll be like, oh, I don't know. And there's
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: this five minute exchange of morons.
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  Speaker 3: And then eventually everybody got up and shifted to the
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  Speaker 3: right seats.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, now, wouldn't it have made more sense
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  Speaker 2: to just do that the first time when you sat
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  Speaker 2: down in the right seat? Because that's the whole point
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  Speaker 2: of buying a science.
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  Speaker 3: Right, right.
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  Speaker 2: So we don't have to do this crap.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think it is? 1998?
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, just shuffle in and sit where you want.
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  Speaker 2: What year is this?
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: Jesus. So you got to become like Fonzie or something
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: like that. You're like, hey, punk, you're in my seat.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: It's like, hey, I got it. Look at my phone here.
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: Look at my barcode. You're in my seat, punk.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to go bump the screen and get the
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 3: movie to start when we're done.
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  Speaker 2: But not until you get your ass out of my seat.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: But so. so yeah, so that was a good thing.
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  Speaker 1: The bad thing is, you know, a lot of places
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: now serve like food, like real food, you know? And so,
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: you know, you're like trying to watch and it's like, uh,
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: It's like the guy next to you is like, you're
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: trying to watch this movie and they're like nachos. It's
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: like chomping on a, like a, you know, a barbecue sandwich,
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: you know? And it's just like, Oh God, you.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 2: Know, slapping lips and slurping. It's just nasty.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 1: And you're just going like, Oh man, you know.
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  Speaker 3: Luckily we don't have a ton of that here. I
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 3: think you're at a cooler city. So you probably have
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 3: a lot of that. We have, you know, your random
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 3: ass popcorn and whatever stuff they have behind the counter
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 3: at the chain theater.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, When you get to the fancier ones, like
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 2: I can see it as a presentation.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 3: Like I can see you putting that spin on it
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 3: to bring people in because they kind of needed, you know, hey,
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 3: we're spinning more plates. Come see this, you know, and
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 3: you can get a fancy meal. So I can see
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 3: the end of it that you would want to do that.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 3: But the practical end of sitting next to that person
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 3: eating a barbecue sandwich is a whole nother story.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: It is kind of like weird. like not real food,
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: you know, it's like, it looks like real food, but
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: when you bite into it, you're kind of like, Oh,
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: this is kind of like, it's kind of like the seat. Oh, Oh,
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: I think, uh, man, my stupid headphones might be going
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: out here in a minute. Uh, it's, it, it tells
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: me please charging.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: It's, it's like, it's like some weird translation of what
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: they think it should say.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 2: Aliens are talking to you.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: Please charging, please charging. Um, so, So, yeah, the food
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: is like it's like the fly. You know, it's like,
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: you know, it's like there's something synthetic about this steak.
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 2: You know, it looks like meat, but it looks like
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 2: things off.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: Right. Right. Exactly. Let me change my headphones real quick,
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: because now I'm like, it gives me give me 30 seconds.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: All right. I'll just wrap up this episode.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: What time is it?
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, enough that we should probably just start another episode.
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: Cool. All right.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 2: Excellent.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I'll freshen my coffee. I'll, I'll, uh, bio break
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: is what they call it now at work. Oh, I'm
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: going to take a bio break.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 2: I'm like, That's weird and clinical.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: I was like a David Cronenberg movie. You know, I'm
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: going to like go hook myself up and do like
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: some paste hose. That's going to feed me.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 3: Oh, he's going to go attach himself to a piece
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 3: of machinery and we're going to wrap this one up
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 3: and we'll just be back for the next one.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 2: As soon as we finish this nonsense.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: All right. Give me, give me, give me two minutes.
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: Okay. All right.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 2: So with that, we will wrap this one up and
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 2: be back for more insane talk the next episode. Otherwise,
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 2: that about does it. We will return next time. Same
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 2: geek feed. Thanks for listening.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 7: Anthropology is the perfect alliance of cultural studies and biological science.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 6: But it's hard to remember when you're taking a class.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 2: All those hominid species from the first to the last.
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  Speaker 6: Now I'm not trying to be too professorial.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 2: Just putting this rhyme out there as a tutorial. For
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 2: people interested.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 7: In plugging prehistorical gaps, this is the hominid rap. the
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 7: history starts with a single partial cranium.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: That blew it all apart like a bomb of.
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  Speaker 6: Uranium provisionally dated through faunal correlation this tiny fellow caused
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  Speaker 6: a pretty big sensation seven million years ago he lived
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 6: in northern chad in the jurab desert with his mom
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  Speaker 6: and dad it's hard to know from the little that
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 6: was found if he swung through the trees or he
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 6: walked upon the ground that's the teeth he's clinging to
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  Speaker 6: a fossilized view with a canine small enough to make
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  Speaker 6: me think of you with his big.
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  Speaker 2: Brow reaches and a sagittal crest.
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  Speaker 7: Sahelanthropus who does his game before the rest sahelanthropus we're.
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  Speaker 1: Talking about monkeys trying to figure that's what i'm saying
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  Speaker 1: we might as well i'm going like yeah the microphone
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: was so far away from me right bring.
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  Speaker 3: In some monkeys it's all good We'll have this covered.
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  Speaker 2: No problem. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not, I'm not going to, you're talking about monkeys.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to start talking about the monkey documentary
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  Speaker 1: I've been watching. So, you know, that's, we'll just, is
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: it on the band?
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  Speaker 2: Because then I would be fascinated. Those guys are awesome.
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