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Joba and the Mouth 11-5-25 · NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO)

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  It is the worldwide sports radio network.
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  New York Jets first year general manager Darren Moogie settled
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  all family business at the trade deadline, trading away star
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  corner Sauce Gardner and star defensive tackle Quinn and
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  Williams. In return, The Jets got back
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  three first round picks, a second round pick, defensive
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  tackle Mozzie Smith, and wide receiver AD Mitchell.
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  While the Colts and Cowboys are certainly happy with their
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  acquisitions today, The Jets certainly stole the show at the
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  deadline. We will discuss just how well
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  they are set up for the future and if they won those trades.
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  And in other news of the deadline, both Jacoby Myers and
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  Rasheed Shaheed found new homes while other teams like the
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  Giants curiously stood pat, not selling off pieces in a losing
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  season or adding for the future. It will break down the winners
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  and losers Tuesday night trade headline here before we crack a
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  six pack with Speedy and make some wake.
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  Ten NFL picks on another all gas, no brakes, high octane,
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  fully loaded live Wednesday night edition of Jabba and the
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  Man. Give him a significant they're.
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  Going to have a ton of money to spend.
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  Why not put it in one of the top three offensive players in the?
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  League we're going to be. Looking at Aaron Judge and
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  saying that he can't. Win the big game, Michael Jordan
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  said. I.
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  Played 82 games. You don't see LeBron doing that.
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  A. Game where you got to go for the
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  four. I told you, giant.
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  Feet save more. Barkley at this point, say
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  Listening to Jabba and the Mouth mouth. 631-672-3108 is the
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  number to call. You're listening to a new show
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  of Jabba and the Mouth. I'm the host, the one and only
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  arrow marks my Co host flame man himself.
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  He's the thrower. He's the flame.
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  Not a flamer. I'm just kidding.
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  A flamer, a flame man, Mr. Sorry and on the board tonight and
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  executive producer, producer, whatever you want to call him,
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  the Co host of the show Speedy PD.
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  He is going to reappear as the producer tonight.
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  There is no Tommy Poops and you heard on the executive producer
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  he fits in some content as he always does.
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  The one and only Mr. Aaron Fish Fishman Remember you can go to
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  I I want to say something. I am one of the most weirdest
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  people when it comes to doing things before the show and
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  usually I have a little bit of string cheese, but I haven't
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  done that on the show for a while because Jabba likes to
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  attack me on the way I peel the string cheese or I eat the
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  string. Cheese.
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  You don't peel it. You're a serial killer.
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  And you eat string cheese. I do.
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  I Yeah. Well, what?
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  I mean, what? How do you eat cheese?
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  I know you. You.
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  Use it to string it. String cheese, yeah.
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  It's to me, it's the same thing as eating a whole bunch of
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  cheese. So and, and if anybody has gone
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  to weddings or parties, jobber you're going to have a wedding
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  soon or you're going to have some kind of party.
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  There is a lot of cheese at those parties and you get to
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  choose what kind of cheese you want to eat.
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  I like all different kinds. I like prevalone, I like, I like
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  all of them. So I'm a test taster.
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  OK, so before the show I bought a a bunch of fruit.
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  So you have these bowls and you have watermelon, you have
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  cantaloupe, you have all the different berries, everything.
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  So what I do is I'm OCD when it comes to fruit so I put the
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  fruit in different bowls and I choose what I want to eat before
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  I eat them it it and I can't eat the same fruit at once because I
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  want to test taste how the fruit actually taste from the bowl so.
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  Wouldn't it be taste testing, not testing?
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  No, I like test taste. You know that?
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  That's my way of using my word play.
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  OK so I test taste instead of taste test.
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  So what I do is I put it in different bowls and I have my
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  berries, I got some blueberries, strawberries, I've got some
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  cantaloupe, I've got some honeydew and I have some
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  watermelon. And it's weird because I go
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  through like 7 or 8 bowls. And This is why Brittany always
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  tells me you're a weirdo and this is really sick.
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  Only sick people do this. And I said, I say to her, how
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  could you go through a whole bowl sticking your hand in?
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  If I I don't want other people sticking their hand in my bowl,
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  I don't want you sticking your hand in a bowl.
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  You work as a nurse. I don't want your hands in my
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  bowl. So what I do is I put it in
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  separate bowls. So if somebody wants a Berry,
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  strawberry, you know, anything you want, you can go in the bowl
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  and grab it. So before the show, I had it all
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  set up on my counter. And after my shower, I'm, you
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  know, choosing what I'm going to eat.
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  And the watermelon had this weird, like potent taste.
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  It's not, it doesn't taste like watermelon.
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  So I, I, I tasted it and I just, I don't know what it tasted
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  like, but it didn't taste like watermelon.
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  So it, it tasted bad. So I wanted to go back to me
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  farms to get another bowl because they gave me bad
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  watermelon. Does that seem weird, Speedy?
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  Does that seem weird? You could taste test as many
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  things as you want. But you're a weird person too,
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  because I've seen you you've gone to different places around
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  the world and and and around the country, and you like to taste
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  anything. It doesn't matter what it is.
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  It could be a horse's ass. No, you would taste it.
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  You would taste it. You you like meat, right?
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  I wouldn't eat an ass, but if it's cooked, you might not even
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  know if it's an ass. A cow's ass.
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  You like beef, right? Yeah, but that's not an ass.
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  The New York Jets made moves at the trade deadline on Tuesday,
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  sending both Sauce Gardner and Quinn and Williams away in two
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  different massive deals. First, The Jets shocked the
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  league in trading. Sauce Garner.
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  Yes, Ahmed. Ahmed Garner if you want to,
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  yeah, I know there's a lot of people that don't want to know
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  and call him Sauce anymore. Ahmed Gardner to the cult for
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  two first round picks and their second year receiver Mitchell.
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  The Jets only had to pay $15 million to source his deal by
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  trading him. Then The Jets made Jerry Jones's
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  day trading the Cowboys defensive tackle Quinn Williams
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  for a first round pick and a second round pick and a third
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  year defensive tackle in Smith SN Wise.
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  Connor Hughes reports that Quinn in requested a trade three
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  different occasions with The Jets for over 2 years.
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  The Athletic reports that The Jets were unwilling to trade
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  with any AFC East rivals despite getting decent offers.
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  The Jets said that Garrett Wilson was the only player that
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  was completely untouchable in trades.
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  The Jets held on to Bruce Hall and Jermaine Johnson after not
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  getting a good enough offer for either player, which was
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  reported to be a third round pick for Hall and a second round
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  pick for Johnson. Everybody that is a Jet fan,
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  we're going crazy about this story.
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  The Jets finally make noise at the trade deadline.
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  Maybe not in a good way in some people's minds, but in my
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  thought and the way I categorize what has happened with the New
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  York Jets. The Jets right now are
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  rebuilding. They have a new coach that a lot
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  of fans don't like for some reason.
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  I I have no idea why after 1/2 a season they're just throwing
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  them away. This is a guy that is their own.
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  This is a guy that was drafted by The Jets.
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  This is a guy that was successful as a player with The
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  Jets. We all know this was not Aaron
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  Glenn's roster. This was Robert AKA Bambi Sala's
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  roster. That's whose roster it was.
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  All these players, Quinn and Williams, who wasn't even
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  drafted by Joe Douglas in that regime.
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  He was drafted with the regime before that.
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  He was the only guy still a part of that regime on the roster.
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  Source. Gardner, who is a sensational
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  player, but over the last past year and a half has not played,
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  as far as I'm concerned, in PFF ways as an elite corner.
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  This year. He was ranked in the 20s in PFF.
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  Last year it was closer to the teens.
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  He's an elite corner when you look at the size and the ability
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  that this kid has, but the things that he does on the
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  field, yanking on jerseys and maybe not playing as hard as you
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  would expect a top corner to play, it makes you worry if
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  you're going to pay a guy $30 million, that kind of money and
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  not get the most out of him. Aaron Glenn obviously didn't
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  think that he would fit the culture in that locker room, and
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  I've heard through the Grapevine that he hasn't been a culture
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  setter in that locker room. Then there's Quinton Williams.
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  Quinton Williams, who I have a lot of respect for, he's been a
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  top defensive lineman in the league for the last 5-6 years,
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  got a lot of money from The Jets.
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  He had one great season with The Jets where I remember he had
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  over 10 sacks. It reminds me of quite a few
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  defensive players in the past. And we'll have Quentin Couples
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  on the show and I'm sure he knows who I'm speaking about.
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  I will give you one of those guys, Muhammad Wilkerson.
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  Muhammad Wilkerson had one great season for the New York Jets and
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  then got an extension. I remember there were a lot of
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  New York broadcasters that said if they don't sign Muhammad
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  Wilkinson, I'm done with The Jets.
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  Well, they signed him. They gave him a big time deal
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  worth about $87,000,000. He was one of the highest paid
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  defensive lineman and then he broke his fibula.
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  He was never the same player. And again, going back to The
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  Jets, in the back end of the New York Jets, there's a lot to not
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  like about this organization. One of them help your owner's
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  name is Woody Johnson. Woody Johnson.
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  That by itself scares me when we're talking about a guy's
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  name, Woody and his last name, Johnson.
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  He hasn't done anything for this organization as far as put the
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  right guys in position to succeed.
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  He has been the voice of reason when it comes to picking up
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  players and selling them off. He's also a guy that opened his
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  mouth so far this season and thrown his starting quarterback
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  onto the bus. You don't want to hear that from
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  your owner because when you have an owner that opens his mouth to
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  the media, what else is he telling?
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  To what? What else is he telling the
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  media? The New York Jets are an
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  organization that is the laughing stock of the NFL
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  longest tenure of teams not to make the playoffs.
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  And when you look at that, 15 years not in the playoffs and
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  rooting for this team who has some of the best fans, I won't.
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  I won't lie about this. I attacked the Jet fans, but the
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  Jet fans are reliable when it comes to going to games, showing
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  up and rooting for this horrible team called Gangrene, which by
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  the way, they should change the name.
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  It's it's a horrible name. It's probably one of the worst
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  things about him. Source.
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  Gardner is a guy that is dating a rapper named Ice Spice.
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  OK. During the offseason, it was big
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  in the tabloids. As important as what The Jets
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  did in the offseason. That is what I heard about the
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  New York Jets. Hey guess what everybody Sauce
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  is dating. I spice, who cares?
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  And the fact right now is Sauce is going to a team that gave the
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  New York Jets 2 first round picks.
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  Now we don't know what those picks are going to be.
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  We don't know what Darren Mookie is going to do with those picks.
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  We don't know if Darren Mookie can actually draft.
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  We don't know. But what I do know about this
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  team and about this coaching staff is Steve Wilkes will will
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  not be here next year. I could guarantee that.
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  And this team of misfits, and I mean misfits because you have
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  briefs Hall coming out and and pretty much ordering The Jets to
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  trade him at the trade deadline saying he wants out.
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  That's why The Jets didn't trade him.
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  And then Quincy Williams came out after his brother was traded
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  to the Cowboys and said, you know some interesting things and
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  posted stupid things. And that's why The Jets are
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  sitting him out as a backup linebacker.
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  This guy was The Jets best linebacker going into the season
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  and now he's a secondary player that might not even start for
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  the rest of the season. Why?
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  Because he's a big mouth and The Jets have always let these
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  players speak their mind. Not anymore.
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  Aaron Glenn does not want his players going out there and
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  abusing the media. Over the last couple of years,
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  Robert Saleh has allowed these idiots to go out there, speak
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  their mind, and throw the organization under the bus.
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  Like a clown, like a circus, like a circus clown.
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  And the New York Jets have always been looked at as a
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  circus. And Aaron Glenn does not want to
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  be looked at like that anymore. And I don't think Darren Mookie
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  wants that either. Now, Woody Johnson needs to stay
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  away. He needs to keep his mouth shut.
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  That is something that they need to figure out how to control.
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  But what The Jets did at the trade deadline was a slam dunk.
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  Guys, think about this. I don't care what players,
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  Mitchell or Smith, those guys might not be a part of the team
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  at the end of the season. I don't know.
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  We'll see. Mitchell's young, he's 23 years
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  old. He'll have a chance to make the
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  team next year. He was the second round talent.
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  He could still be very, very good.
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  We'll see. The Jets will develop him.
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  The Colts did not because they didn't need them.
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  They had Pitman, they had Downs. They have a bunch of good wide
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  receivers there. They didn't need Mitchell.
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  They drafted him in the second round last year.
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  It didn't work, but with these picks, it sets The Jets up very
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  well going into the next two off seasons and now they have to
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  find a franchise quarterback. They have to.
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  It is a must to find a franchise quarterback in the next two
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  seasons. Now, I don't know if it's going
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  to be in this year's draft because The Jets screwed up
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  again. They beat Cincinnati at the tail
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  end of the game where they were the bona fide number one pick.
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  And then all of a sudden at the trade deadline, they move sauce.
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  They move quitting and pretty much tell you we give up on the
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  season, we're waving the flag, the season is over for us.
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  Then why would you win that game if you know the season is over?
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  That was the stupidity of this organization.
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  I remember now. Thank God Trevor Lawrence is not
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  a Jet after what we've seen over the last couple of years with
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  the Jaguars. But the Jet fans were pissed off
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  when they beat the Rams. I mentioned that on the show
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  about a week ago because they lost out on Trevor Lawrence.
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  Instead, they got Zach Wilson and we all know what he was
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  doing with his mother's best friend.
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  It's a problem when you bring in the wrong guys to an
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  organization that's been a laughingstock.
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  We look at so many organizations that have been laughingstocks.
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  Cleveland laughingstock, Cincinnati laughingstock.
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  I could go on and on and on. Miami laughingstock.
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  There are like 6 or 7 teams in the NFL that are successful and
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  have been successful over the last 25 years and you all know
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  who they are because ownership success of leaving in place the
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  right coaching staff. That is what makes teams
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  successful. The Jets here in New York, they
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  don't know how to hold on to coaches, GMs, you name it,
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  assistance. They have one guy that they've
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  held on to, and that's because he's the owner of the team.
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  It doesn't. And even him, he wasn't there
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  because he decided to move to England when Donald Trump went
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  on to take over for the United States and his brother Chris was
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  running the show. It's an organization that's been
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  a joke and me as a Jet fan, I'm wearing a Danny Dodge jersey
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  because I just got it. I it's a Colts jersey.
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  I know Fish doesn't like it and that's why I love it.
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  And I got it made and I will show you what it says in the
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  back. My problem here is not what
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  Darren Mooji has done. There is nothing that tells me,
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  yes, Fish, thank you. My thoughts to what Darren Mooji
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  has done at the trade deadline. Is not bad.
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  It's good because what he is trying to do is send away the
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  bed in that locker room. Now, Quinn Williams didn't want
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  to be there. We've heard through the
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  Grapevine for the last two years he didn't want to be there.
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  Bruce Hall doesn't want to be there.
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  So The Jets are going to do what they need to do in signing
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  trade. I guarantee you they're going to
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  sign him or they're going to what it What do they call that?
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  Speedy franchise tag? Franchise tag Bruce Hall in the
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  offseason just to piss him off and they're going to move them.
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  They're going to do what they want with him, dangle him around
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  until somebody gives them what they want, which is a third
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  round pick. The Jets have done the right
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  thing. Jet fans sit back and just smile
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  you. Did you think that this was
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  going to be a fun season? Did you think that this was
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  going to be a great season? Do you really think that this
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  team can compete right now against the New England Patriots
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  and what they put together with Vrabel?
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  You had a chance to hire Vrabel. If you wanted Vrabel, you
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  shouldn't have let him leave New Jersey.
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  He left and he went to the Patriots.
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  If you wanted him so bad, you should have given him whatever
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  he wanted. And that's why I think Aaron
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  Glenn was the right fit for the right organization.
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  He wants to be here, he wants to win here.
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  He wants to show fans that they can win here.
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  Why is everybody attacking what they have done at a trade
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  deadline that was wide open and they got three first round draft
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  picks and a second rounder for the next two years?
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  Why is there so much sorrow and so much craziness right now in
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  Jetland? Because the Jet fans should sit
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  back and shut up. Zipper your mouths, put a beak
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  on it. I don't know how you put a beak
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  on it, but you could do something like that.
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  I mean, kiss something, put something when you put a sausage
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  in your mouth. Speedy likes that, right?
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  I do. The problem right now is going
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  to be what the offseason is going to lie with this new
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  regime. Are The Jets going to make the
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  right move? And what the right move is this
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  offseason is deciding if there is a quarterback in this class
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  they really, really want? And is that quarterback going to
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  take this team to the next level, which they've been
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  looking for for the last 50 years?
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  And I don't know if there's one I've, I believe Fernando Mendozo
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  is. Mendoza is a guy that I like,
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  but does does that mean he's going to be a franchise play?
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  I don't know. And fans, you don't know because
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  once you go to the NFL, it's a fast-paced game.
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  It's different than the NCAA. This is not playing the SEC, the
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  Big 10 or a PAC 12. This is different.
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  It is different. The speed of the game is
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  completely different. And Zach Wilson, he had no idea
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  what he was walking into. He didn't know what the media
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  was going to do to him because as soon as he decided to speak
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  to the media and say the things that he said and show up to
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  Broadway shows and find out who his uncle is, he owns JetBlue.
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  I mean, there's so many things that you wonder with the New
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  York Jets that more than meets the eye about an organization
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  that has been nothing but a joke and a laughing stock of
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  everybody. Think about it.
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  Rich Eisen is a Jet fan. He was excited about Aaron,
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  Aaron Rodgers. How quick was that over?
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  How, how quick was that marriage?
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  It was done in a in a game really in 4 plays.
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  Aaron Rodgers career with the New York Jets ended in 4 plays
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  and I don't care about the season they played after that.
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  It ended in 4 plays. And then when we look at some of
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  the things that The Jets have done over the years, trading Sam
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  Donald for a second and a fourth where I thought Joe Douglas
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  should have kept that and held on to Sam Donald.
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  What did The Jets give Sam Donald when he was here?
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  Nothing. They gave him nothing, no
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  weapons, nada. So what did they do?
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  They brought in a BYU quarterback, which I agree.
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  I said that I thought he was going to be good.
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  A quarterback that didn't last more than a season where
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  everybody said this guy isn't the right guy.
• 25:14
  Christian Hackenberg wasn't the right guy, none of these guys,
• 25:18
  but you had guys that might have been somewhat successful if you
• 25:22
  held on to them for a significant portion of time.
• 25:26
  Do you know Smith being another Seattle had a fun time with him.
• 25:30
  He almost was. He was up for an MVP.
• 25:32
  He was a top six, top seven player for an MVP the year that
• 25:35
  he he played well over there with Pete Carroll.
• 25:38
  That's why Pete decided to bring him in over there with Vegas.
• 25:42
  And now look at Sam. Look at the success Sam has had
• 25:45
  with Minnesota, and now Seattle just earned himself $100 million
• 25:51
  contract. Sam is happy.
• 25:54
  And when he left the New York Jets, I could only remember some
• 25:58
  of the things that he said on social media that pretty much
• 26:02
  settled him very happily to go to Carolina because he didn't
• 26:06
  want to be here anymore. He didn't want to deal with the
• 26:08
  media. He didn't want to deal with the
• 26:10
  fans. He didn't want to deal with the
• 26:11
  abuse that he was getting when he wasn't doing the things that
• 26:15
  they wanted. And that's when, and this team
• 26:19
  knows nothing about it. Now, Quinton Williams, and I'm
• 26:23
  going to finish up here very quickly because I'm sure you
• 26:26
  guys got your take. What was The Jets record with
• 26:30
  Quinton Williams in the lineup? And I'm going to tell you what
• 26:34
  the record was. They were 33, if I'm not
• 26:38
  mistaken, and 75, 33 and even at 30 in the thirty wins mark and
• 26:47
  in the 70 lose mark to tell me that this guy was something to
• 26:52
  cry about when The Jets decided to move on from him.
• 26:55
  I'm not crying. He's not a winning player.
• 26:59
  He doesn't win. And Ahmed, AKA source Garner,
• 27:05
  what did they win with him? He has been here for three
• 27:09
  years, right? Three years speedy.
• 27:12
  This is year 4 for him. So 3 full years with The Jets.
• 27:16
  This was year 4 for him. He got a contract in a
• 27:19
  three-year span, a big one, and what did he do?
• 27:24
  He was a two time all pro player.
• 27:26
  He was a three time pro ball player.
• 27:29
  He shouldn't have made the pro ball last year.
• 27:31
  He didn't play well at the tail end of the season and he had a
• 27:34
  lot to say to the media at the end of the season.
• 27:37
  He is not a good fit here as far as Aaron Glenn is concerned and
• 27:43
  only time will tell you if Aaron Glenn is the right guy here as
• 27:48
  well. I believe he is, but he needs to
• 27:51
  put the right personalities and he needs to put the team in
• 27:56
  position the way he sees fit to win.
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  Yeah, and that's the problem. When you look at a team that's
• 28:02
  trying to get these types of personalities together, they
• 28:05
  sign the big names. I think The Jets, the impression
• 28:08
  of it was OK, we want to avoid the drama that was going through
• 28:11
  throughout the offseason that you see other teams do with
• 28:13
  these holdouts and stuff like that.
• 28:15
  And the Sauce Garner contract and Garrett Wilson contract
• 28:17
  happened literally 5 days apart. And I think because of that,
• 28:20
  they wanted to make that kind of thing work, knowing that all
• 28:23
  right at the start of the year, were we thinking a playoff team?
• 28:25
  And no. But were we thinking a team that
• 28:27
  still could compete? Yes.
• 28:29
  And obviously The Jets got off to this rocky start.
• 28:31
  But like you're saying, Arrow all year, they've been in every
• 28:33
  game. Besides, the Bills blew him out
• 28:34
  and Dallas beat him by double digits.
• 28:36
  But even that wasn't that bad either.
• 28:37
  The Jets still played very well. But at the same time, you're not
• 28:41
  going to turn down values that are this good in trades.
• 28:45
  Quinn Williams, we knew Dallas was shopping him for the for the
• 28:48
  offseason because of the whole Micah Parsons rumor that you
• 28:50
  guys talked about months ago that they were going to wanted
• 28:53
  Quinn Williams in a deal potentially for Parsons.
• 28:54
  But The Jets were not one player away.
• 28:56
  They were not one Micah Parsons away from being a championship
• 28:58
  competitive team. So there's no way they were
• 29:00
  going to pull the trigger on that.
• 29:01
  But there's going to be the market out there.
• 29:03
  And I was always saying if you could sell high on Quinn
• 29:05
  Williams, go for it. Like, if the deal is there, make
• 29:08
  it happen. Mozzie Smith, he hasn't been
• 29:10
  great in the NFL so far, but maybe he's could be a solid plug
• 29:13
  in in a different scheme. We saw that Aaron Glenn replace
• 29:16
  all these reaches that the Lions drafted his defensive tackles in
• 29:18
  previous year to make you working for a minimal defense.
• 29:21
  And same kind of thing with Sauce Garner, Like, yeah, you
• 29:24
  paid him $30 million. I thought he deserved it at that
• 29:26
  time. Has he been amazing this year?
• 29:27
  No. Has he been a top ten corner?
• 29:29
  Probably still, Yeah, I would say so.
• 29:30
  But you're not turning down two first round picks from a team in
• 29:33
  the Colts have been desperate for corners for years.
• 29:35
  The Jets, any Jets fan that's mad at this cannot be mad at
• 29:39
  when The Jets could get good assets to build a team.
• 29:43
  You don't win Super Bowls on three stars on one unit and be
• 29:46
  able to win with just like average to below average depth
• 29:49
  players. After that, unless you have a
• 29:51
  really, really good generational coach like an Andy Reid or a
• 29:54
  Bill Belichick, maybe you can get away with that.
• 29:56
  No other team can get away with it.
• 29:58
  But you don't know if you have a generational coach right now
• 30:00
  because Aaron Glenn's in position right now with a roster
• 30:04
  that wasn't his. So you have to take a step back
• 30:07
  and realize this is a rookie coach.
• 30:10
  He's never done this before. He's been a defensive
• 30:13
  coordinator and a quarterback coach his whole career, all the
• 30:17
  way through with the Lions and he was working with the Saints
• 30:20
  and Sean Payton. You got to give this guy a
• 30:23
  little bit of time. It takes three years to build a
• 30:26
  roster. It does.
• 30:27
  It takes three years. And if you don't have the
• 30:29
  quarterback, you don't have have anything.
• 30:33
  Why? OK, you say 3 years.
• 30:35
  Why does it? Why does it?
• 30:36
  Why? Why three years?
• 30:38
  OK, so the first year is always the off year because you're
• 30:42
  still moving towards figuring out what players fit your
• 30:46
  scheme. OK, so after the first year, you
• 30:49
  know this guy's not going to fit.
• 30:51
  This is got this guy's not going to fit in the locker room.
• 30:53
  So you move them. Now you got to bring guys in.
• 30:57
  It takes a year to get these guys to commit to your defense
• 31:02
  in your offense. And that takes a full year to do
• 31:05
  because the offense in the game is a little bit more faster from
• 31:09
  playing college football. So that takes a little bit more
• 31:11
  time to figure out how they're going to fit in your scheme,
• 31:15
  even though you believe they're a perfect fit.
• 31:17
  And then the third year, you got to make sure that your
• 31:21
  quarterback that you've had or you've built up to be your guy
• 31:26
  is uncomfortable in that offense with the style that you're going
• 31:30
  to run and the players that you have surrounding him and make
• 31:34
  sure that you have the right protection.
• 31:37
  And, and Fish knows this when it comes to offensive lines.
• 31:40
  If you don't have an offensive line, you don't have nothing.
• 31:45
  That's the way offenses worked in the NFL.
• 31:48
  You can ask anybody. You ask right now the Eagles,
• 31:51
  why are they so successful? Their offensive line?
• 31:54
  You ask the Lions why are they so successful because of their
• 31:58
  offensive line. You go down to Kansas City, why
• 32:01
  they won all those Super Bowls with Patrick Mahomes, it was
• 32:05
  because of their offensive line. That is the fact guys.
• 32:10
  And if you don't have the right guys surrounding your young
• 32:14
  quarterback and the quarterback you believe is your franchise,
• 32:18
  you're not winning nothing. And The Jets offensive line,
• 32:20
  pass blocking wise, there was advanced that I saw it in the
• 32:23
  weapons hot group. They were actually #1 going into
• 32:26
  Week 8 in terms of some some kind of advanced pass blocking
• 32:29
  metric. So it shows that they have that
• 32:31
  part of it down. Obviously Garrett Wilson's had a
• 32:32
  great year. So you have those part of it's
• 32:34
  going for your offensive side of the ball.
• 32:36
  But again, the defense is something that you still
• 32:38
  thought. And I was, I fell for it too.
• 32:40
  I dropped for them in fantasy in our job on the mouth league.
• 32:42
  That was still going to be a strength for them.
• 32:44
  I didn't. Yeah.
• 32:45
  And with the pass rush, with the secondary that they thought they
• 32:48
  had, on paper, it looked like be the case.
• 32:49
  Obviously that wasn't the case because obviously Sauce was.
• 32:51
  You know what scared me about The Jets defense right after
• 32:54
  what they gave Sherwood that kind of money.
• 32:57
  They gave Sherwood a $40 million contract and I was like, what
• 33:00
  did Jamie and Sherwood, he's been on this show before.
• 33:03
  We've had him on this show. He had nothing to say when we
• 33:06
  were interviewing. I pull so many tricks out of the
• 33:08
  hat when I have guests that don't really speak.
• 33:11
  And this guy, I could pull 6 or 7 tricks and maybe do a tumble
• 33:15
  twist and I still couldn't get anything out of this man.
• 33:18
  So why did I believe he was the cornerstone of a defense that
• 33:23
  really didn't know who they they were after?
• 33:25
  You know, there was a guy that was so detrimental important to
• 33:31
  that defense who's no longer in the NFL.
• 33:33
  And you know what I'm talking about speedy CJ Mosley.
• 33:37
  I was. That was the point I brought up
• 33:39
  at the beginning of the season. And Speedy, you remember that we
• 33:41
  had this conversation that it doesn't matter that his skills
• 33:44
  were declining. You need a captain of the
• 33:47
  defense now. Sherwood has been a league
• 33:50
  average linebacker. According to PFF.
• 33:53
  He's 35th out of 82 qualifying linebackers.
• 33:57
  He's. Fine, but the problem is you can
• 34:00
  have a guy who's fine at linebacker if you have a captain
• 34:04
  of the defense playing next to him.
• 34:06
  And now CJ Mosley's not there. This is a guy who was
• 34:09
  experienced enough to set guys up in the right place.
• 34:12
  And the example I used back when we first talked about it was
• 34:15
  Antonio Pierce as a Giants fan. When the Giants won those
• 34:18
  championships, they traded for Antonio Pierce.
• 34:20
  He became the quarterback of the defense, they say, at that Mike
• 34:24
  linebacker position and having that communication.
• 34:27
  And Errol, I don't think I was with you when Sherwood came on,
• 34:30
  but if it was hard to communicate with him on the on
• 34:32
  the air, I can imagine he's not a great communicator on the
• 34:36
  field either. And that's the biggest thing you
• 34:38
  need to be able to do. You need that and you need a guy
• 34:40
  like that in the secondary to make sure the secondary strength
• 34:43
  is set correctly as well in the NFL level and in like D1 college
• 34:46
  and stuff like that. They don't have the middle of
• 34:50
  the field figured out. It doesn't matter how good
• 34:53
  Sherwood is, he's fine. They don't have a leader there.
• 34:56
  And they're secondary. I mean, the safety play now they
• 34:58
  have a young kid that I really, really like.
• 35:00
  And I'm starting to see that he might have potential from
• 35:03
  Alabama. He looks like he's going to be
• 35:05
  decent. But everybody else in that
• 35:07
  secondary you question, Michael Carter didn't fit in this
• 35:10
  defense. This guy was one of the best
• 35:11
  slot defenders in all of football for the last three
• 35:14
  years under Robert Sala. He went from great to horrible.
• 35:19
  And now he's going to an Eagle team that really doesn't need
• 35:21
  them and they're just they're a bag of riches.
• 35:24
  I mean, think about it, Phillips, I, I mean, who's
• 35:27
  better than the Eagles right now sitting And I'm, I'm an Eagles
• 35:30
  fan, so I'm loving it. So I'm not going to complain
• 35:31
  about it. The Jets love to make trades
• 35:34
  with the Eagles and and the Eagles like to make trades with
• 35:37
  The Jets. So I'm not going to cry about
• 35:39
  it. I'm both a Jets and Eagles fan.
• 35:41
  So but it bothers me when you sit back and you realize The
• 35:45
  Jets have been an organization that really depends on certain
• 35:50
  players in a defense as much as they do in an offense.
• 35:53
  They haven't had a guy that and quarterback and they don't they
• 35:56
  don't really have a leader in that defense anymore.
• 35:59
  And that secondary, let's be honest, when you talk about
• 36:02
  secondary captains and you give source Garner the captaincy
• 36:07
  going into the last two seasons, I don't care what he is an all
• 36:10
  pro pro ball player. I could care less when he's not
• 36:13
  out there talking to the other corners and he's pretty much
• 36:16
  going on the sidelines and throwing his helmet and
• 36:19
  complaining to the coaches that he's not seeing or the other
• 36:22
  guys are not in the right positions.
• 36:23
  And he's not in the right positions in the red zone, which
• 36:26
  The Jets are one of the worst at.
• 36:29
  It tells me that source Corner is not an elite corner as much
• 36:32
  as we thought he was. Yeah.
• 36:34
  I also think you look at a lot of defenses that have won in
• 36:37
  recent years too. Like sometimes you can get away
• 36:39
  with it with good coaching combined with maybe one or two
• 36:42
  star players too. And you could see the value was
• 36:44
  still there for the advanced metrics for Quinn and Williams.
• 36:46
  Quinn and Williams was a guy that you've said it in other
• 36:49
  years, Errol sometimes get double teams so he doesn't get
• 36:51
  the sack totals as much, but still was productive in other
• 36:53
  areas. And same kind of thing with
• 36:55
  Sauce. Sauce has a physical role as a
• 36:58
  corner that it's hard to find now.
• 36:59
  He's had issues with effort tackling and stuff like that
• 37:02
  too. But clearly the Colts and a lot
• 37:03
  of other teams around the league did not think that way.
• 37:06
  And same kind of thing with Quinny Williams.
• 37:07
  Quinny Williams was only going to be sold high because of the
• 37:09
  quickness and the advanced metrics that work.
• 37:11
  Now he fits in the Colts defense.
• 37:13
  He really does like a glove. The Colts needed a number one
• 37:17
  corner and he fits there now. We'll see how he plays under a
• 37:21
  different regime. He plays with a better defense
• 37:24
  and with any elite team. We'll see if source Garner goes
• 37:27
  out there and gives it his all because he hasn't given his all
• 37:31
  for the last two seasons. He really hasn't.
• 37:33
  And and any Jet fan that has seen this guy play in the first
• 37:36
  two years and try to correct themselves on what source Garner
• 37:39
  has been that the final two years with his Jets career, you
• 37:44
  can wonder if he really wanted to go out there and play or just
• 37:47
  wanted to be on commercials or go sign autographs or be there
• 37:53
  with a superstar. Ralph Pepper and show up to all
• 37:56
  her concerts in the offseason and not show up to certain
• 37:59
  practices and certain OTA's. He should have showed up to I
• 38:03
  I'm just, I'm speaking the truth here.
• 38:05
  And I don't know Sauce Garner in a hole in a wall.
• 38:07
  And yes, Nathan, I know you know him.
• 38:10
  I know you posted up the pictures.
• 38:12
  I know you know his brother and I would love to get his brother
• 38:15
  on the show because I would love to hear his take on the sauce
• 38:17
  Garner situation. Sauce Garner.
• 38:20
  Here's another problem that I don't like about sauce.
• 38:23
  Source. After he got traded, what did he
• 38:25
  say? Speedy, do you remember what he
• 38:27
  said? I do not.
• 38:28
  Well, he said something in 4 words.
• 38:31
  So long, so long. New York, Whatever.
• 38:35
  It's up on the screen for you, arrow on the top of the screen.
• 38:37
  I got the tweet right there. New York.
• 38:39
  I can't see. It's been real a green hearts.
• 38:42
  All right, So if you're number one pick and you're a star with
• 38:46
  a team and you're an organization and you just got
• 38:48
  traded and, and fans are upset and you know fans are upset
• 38:53
  because they love you and you're 1 of you have one of the hottest
• 38:56
  jersey sales for the New York Jets.
• 38:58
  As a matter of fact, I think he was number one this year.
• 39:02
  So how do you say 4 words and a heart and that's all you say to
• 39:08
  the fans? Why don't you do what Daniel
• 39:11
  Jones was being ridiculed by the Giant fans and then when he got
• 39:16
  let go and, and pretty much thrown to the walls and he goes
• 39:19
  to Minnesota and now he's with, he's with the, he's with the the
• 39:23
  great and powerful Indianapolis Colts.
• 39:26
  Because I say great and powerful because Danny Dimes is winning
• 39:29
  baby. He wrote a whole story to the
• 39:34
  Giant fans, telling the fans goodbye and thank you for
• 39:39
  showing up to games and supporting him for all the
• 39:42
  things that he tried to do for the fan base.
• 39:45
  That's what you want to hear from your superstar player.
• 39:49
  And what did you hear from Source Garner?
• 39:52
  Nothing immaturity and it shows you how much love he had over
• 39:57
  here. For the Jet fans and Jet fans,
• 39:59
  you shouldn't have sorrow, you shouldn't be upset.
• 40:02
  You should smile and wave goodbye.
• 40:05
  Because that's what I'm doing to Sauz Garner, enjoy.
• 40:08
  I hope you win a Super Bowl. I hope you go to the Super Bowl
• 40:10
  with the Colts because we're going to be there at the Super
• 40:13
  Bowl. And I'd love to interview you
• 40:15
  and ask you your true opinion on why you didn't post up a nice
• 40:21
  letter to the Jet fans. Because to me.
• 40:23
  OK, so, so let me ask you this there as an athlete, why do you
• 40:26
  think we owe that to you? I'm not, I'm not saying you owe
• 40:30
  anything to me. I'm a I'm a OK.
• 40:32
  No, what I'm saying as the fan, as a fan base, I'm asking you
• 40:35
  say why, why did he only write that comparable to some other
• 40:39
  people that there's been a lot of dudes that have wrote short
• 40:42
  little excerpts that have kind of been the same thing, but but
• 40:44
  hit on the same way. Do you like, I'm just wondering
• 40:48
  from your perspective. I'm.
• 40:49
  Going to give it to you, do you? Feel like we owe that as the
• 40:53
  athlete because you took us in in the draft that we give you
• 40:58
  some sort of kumbaya as as we leave and and whatever.
• 41:03
  And obviously there's more to it than that.
• 41:05
  I in in accepting and being a part of the culture in the
• 41:08
  community. Like I understand that.
• 41:10
  But as far as that being said, like from his perspective like
• 41:13
  that, like do you feel like he has to do more?
• 41:16
  Like that's an obligation that he it owes you guys?
• 41:20
  Here's my opinion and we have to move on.
• 41:22
  But here's my opinion to ABBA as a fan.
• 41:26
  And I'm I'm a media guy, so I can't tell you, even though I
• 41:28
  root for The Jets, I could care less what source Garner says or
• 41:32
  does. I really don't care.
• 41:34
  But there are young kids out there that look up to him.
• 41:37
  They look up to him and they he goes to these autograph signings
• 41:41
  and and says that I'm going to be a jet for life.
• 41:43
  I want to be a jet for life. And you get traded and instead
• 41:48
  of showing sorrow and up being upset, you just pretty much wave
• 41:53
  the flag and say, you know, a couple of words.
• 41:56
  And as a young kid and a person that rooted for a team your
• 42:00
  whole life and seen so many bad football.
• 42:05
  And you were the finally a guy that was going to resurrect that
• 42:08
  position because Darrelle Reeves is retired.
• 42:10
  And you have Aaron Glenn, who was the last great corner on the
• 42:15
  organ, you know, with this organization that was drafted by
• 42:17
  the organization. And that's all you put out
• 42:19
  there. I, I do, I believe that it as a,
• 42:23
  as a professional and as a guy that fans are look up to young
• 42:27
  kids, look up to, you have to go out there and give them some
• 42:32
  kind of respect and, and show them that you loved playing
• 42:36
  here, that you adored the young fans and that you're sorry that
• 42:41
  it didn't work out with the New York Jets.
• 42:43
  And, and that's my opinion too. Towards Sauce Garner, Quinton
• 42:47
  Williams posted up something nice to the Jet fans.
• 42:50
  Yeah, no, I I just wanted your like your take on it as like
• 42:53
  obviously both sides as a fan, like kind of weird because I I
• 42:56
  don't know if you guys saw the video of the little kid of the
• 42:58
  dad, his dad telling him that sauce got traded and like he
• 43:01
  started crying and stuff like that.
• 43:03
  So I understand, like I understand that that part
• 43:06
  obviously, I don't know the insurance and outs of what he's,
• 43:09
  you know, in the signings, what he's saying, because that's
• 43:11
  obviously if you go out and say this to to that type of kid,
• 43:14
  it's it's things that they're never going to forget and then
• 43:18
  they're going to, you know, they're going to hold that
• 43:19
  against them. I mean, there's so many stories
• 43:21
  that I think we've all heard where it's like, oh, he got
• 43:24
  traded and then beat us and I now I hate that team or
• 43:26
  whatever. I mean, there's, there's so many
• 43:28
  stories like that, but I always find it interesting that like
• 43:31
  how you guys perceive of somebody leaving that was
• 43:34
  drafted from the organization and and doesn't give whatever
• 43:39
  you felt like it is. Because I mean, there's, there's
• 43:41
  really no job description, like I've said before, but there is
• 43:43
  part of a responsibility as somebody that has has paid their
• 43:49
  time there, but also the people that have paid their time to
• 43:51
  watch you and in the respect factor both.
• 43:54
  So I I understand. Outside of The Jets, teams were
• 43:56
  active before the trade deadline on Tuesday.
• 43:59
  The Eagles started the fireworks early, boosting their defense by
• 44:03
  trading for edge rusher Phillips from the Dolphins and cornerback
• 44:08
  Carter from The Jets and Alexander from the Ravens.
• 44:13
  The Patriots were also active but also shedding veterans.
• 44:17
  More than adding pieces. The Pats moved on from safety.
• 44:22
  Mr. Duggar. I couldn't stand him and could
• 44:25
  never stay healthy. Trading him to the Steelers and
• 44:28
  Ed Rusher White to the 49ers, freeing up Caprum.
• 44:32
  The Jaguars traded full wide receiver Jacoby and Myers from
• 44:36
  the Raiders after the Gremlin is out on IR.
• 44:40
  Not surprised. Ladies and gentlemen, Travis
• 44:42
  Hunter is out for a significant amount of time, probably the
• 44:45
  season. So sayonara.
• 44:47
  As I told Quinton Williams, no interceptions and he will not
• 44:51
  have an interception this year. I can't wait to hear that one.
• 44:55
  The Seahawks also added an impact receiver as they added
• 45:00
  Saints deep thread Shaheed. So he's part of my fantasy team,
• 45:05
  so I'm happy about that. In some smaller moves, the Bears
• 45:08
  added Ed Dresser try on from the Browns and the Ravens got
• 45:12
  defensive tackle Jones from the Titans and the Cowboys added
• 45:16
  linebacker Wilson from the Bengals.
• 45:19
  Most playoff contending teams didn't make any moves with teams
• 45:23
  like the Chiefs, the Bills, the Lions, the Buccaneers.
• 45:26
  Just hoping their guys getting healthy will provide a spark.
• 45:31
  GM Joe Shane and the Giants also stayed pat.
• 45:36
  For you Giant fans who thought you were going to get another
• 45:39
  wide receiver here, that didn't work.
• 45:42
  And there were guys from Miami that were available, and if they
• 45:46
  had any chance to get one of those guys, they should have
• 45:49
  made the move at the trade deadline because it's going to
• 45:51
  be a little bit more expensive in the offseason.
• 45:54
  That's my opinion. The Giants are not a playoff
• 45:58
  team. The Giants aren't making the
• 45:59
  playoffs. We knew that after the Broncos
• 46:02
  game. If they win that game, I think
• 46:04
  the Giants go heavily after a wide receiver because they
• 46:08
  believe they have a chance. I don't think they believe it.
• 46:10
  I think the Giants are going to stay pat and they did stay pat
• 46:14
  and realize that this team has an opportunity next year to make
• 46:18
  a run if Jackson Dart plays a full season and has the right
• 46:22
  protection at the offensive line.
• 46:24
  So that was my opinion with the New York Giants for you Giants
• 46:27
  fans. So don't be sad.
• 46:29
  We'll see what if Cam comes back healthy, Mr. Scataboo and and,
• 46:34
  and see how this team is going to fall together in the
• 46:37
  offseason. Is Joe Shane the guy or do they
• 46:39
  part ways with him? Is Dabo the guy or do they part
• 46:42
  ways with him? As far as the Patriots are
• 46:45
  concerned, the fact that they shed it off veteran players,
• 46:49
  very interesting. I thought that the Patriots
• 46:53
  we're going to add more pieces. I thought that the Patriots have
• 46:59
  a chance to come out of the AFC this year.
• 47:02
  The emergence of Drake May, he's been playing well and they're
• 47:07
  getting more than I thought they were going to get from Diggs
• 47:11
  this year. I thought that this defense, it
• 47:14
  was one of the elite defenses in the league.
• 47:15
  Rabel has really brought that potential.
• 47:18
  What we've seen with the Titans when he was there and, and what
• 47:21
  I believe that this team is all about and what this organization
• 47:25
  was all about, what Belichick was, there was defense, defense,
• 47:28
  defense. And now I think they've they,
• 47:30
  they believe that they have a quarterback there.
• 47:33
  For a long, long time, the team that made the most moves besides
• 47:37
  The Jets making those big moves is the Eagles.
• 47:40
  The Eagles are the ones that made the slam dunk moves,
• 47:42
  bringing Phillips in, who is a bona fide #1, bona fide #1
• 47:47
  linebacker. You can move them all over the
• 47:50
  line. He is, he can pass rush.
• 47:51
  He can, he can run, stop. He could do so many different
• 47:54
  things. Dean has not been healthy all
• 47:56
  season long. Now you can kind of put him in
• 47:58
  that Dean position. If Dean does not stay healthy
• 48:02
  for the rest of the year. And he could be a quarterback of
• 48:05
  that defense. Absolutely could.
• 48:07
  And Carter maybe just needed to be moved to a team that was
• 48:10
  going to use him better in a scheme which they, you know,
• 48:14
  obviously they they run great schemes over there with one of
• 48:17
  the best defensive coordinators, one of the best defensive minds
• 48:20
  in the NFL. I, I think that the Eagles have
• 48:23
  put themselves very well in position to go and repeat for a
• 48:29
  Super Bowl the other teams as far as Myers, Jacoby Myers going
• 48:34
  to the Jaguars, I don't think that's a big deal.
• 48:37
  He is going to go to free agency.
• 48:38
  He's going to make himself some money.
• 48:40
  He is not going to be over there with the Jaguars.
• 48:42
  Trevor Lawrence losing the Gremlin is not a big deal.
• 48:46
  So fans buying his jersey, I don't think we're going to be
• 48:51
  talking about him very long like I've predicted.
• 48:54
  He's in a lot of commercials. He's done a lot of video game
• 48:58
  commercials as well. I've seen him on different
• 49:01
  skits. And I could care less what
• 49:03
  Travis Hunter is doing in the offseason.
• 49:05
  He's going to have to figure out what he is as an NFL player.
• 49:09
  The Bears, interesting move. I think the Bears are going to
• 49:14
  contend to make the playoffs. I think they they're going to
• 49:19
  figure out, they got to figure out, you know, obviously certain
• 49:23
  positions and how they fit to this defense.
• 49:25
  I think this defense is one of the better defenses in the
• 49:29
  league, top 12 defenses in the league, adding the pieces that
• 49:32
  they did. They're not big moves, they're
• 49:34
  not slam dunk moves, but they're moves that could fit the scheme
• 49:37
  and the way they like to run their scheme.
• 49:39
  So I don't think it's a bad move and it's you know, it's grabbing
• 49:43
  possibilities to succeed as far as the Cowboys are concerned.
• 49:48
  The Wilson move makes you makes you itch your head.
• 49:51
  I don't I don't get it. And and and again, the Quinn
• 49:55
  Williams move to give up what they gave up for Quinn Williams,
• 49:58
  that makes you scratch your head too.
• 50:00
  Is this going to make them a contender?
• 50:02
  Does this make that their defense an elite defense?
• 50:04
  No Does Quinn Williams make them a better defense?
• 50:07
  Yes. I don't know.
• 50:09
  I think the two teams that were successful at the trade deadline
• 50:13
  with the two teams I root for, The Jets and Eagles, Yeah,
• 50:16
  Cowboys are definitely a head scratcher for me because Logan
• 50:18
  Wilson was a linebacker that was good for a while with the
• 50:20
  Bengals. But sometimes with middle
• 50:22
  linebackers you see them really have a good three or four year
• 50:24
  peak in today's game, especially when they're speed oriented
• 50:26
  linebacker and really fell off. They were games with the Bengals
• 50:28
  defense where he was benched. If you're getting benched on the
• 50:30
  Bengals defense this year, you know some things on the downturn
• 50:34
  for that kind of thing. Logan Wilson was great for three
• 50:36
  years, but not the same case anymore.
• 50:37
  And Quentin Williams, well, obviously he's a nice player.
• 50:40
  They have already a big contract invested to a defensive tackle
• 50:42
  already in Odezua. Odezua got paid $20 million a
• 50:45
  year in the offseason. So you're getting 2 positions of
• 50:47
  the same type on all your money. We've seen how that's worked for
• 50:50
  the Bengals. We've seen how that's worked for
• 50:51
  Miami. Sneaky good too with I like the
• 50:54
  Bears. I think 1.
• 50:54
  You mentioned Tryon is a good second pass rusher.
• 50:56
  He was good in Tampa for a while alongside Shaq Barrett in that
• 50:59
  blitz. Happy defense.
• 51:01
  And I think it was just a bad fit in Cleveland with a Jim
• 51:04
  Schwartz have attacking 4 three defense.
• 51:06
  I think he goes back over there to the Bears where he plays
• 51:08
  alongside Montez squad. I think that's to be a good move
• 51:10
  in San Francisco with the Niners too.
• 51:11
  Keon White was a guy that I thought was a first round pick
• 51:13
  of the time. I know Jeff really liked him
• 51:15
  when the Patriots drafted him as well.
• 51:16
  He's a guy that's more of a power rusher to compliment Bryce
• 51:19
  Huff, who's more of a speed rusher and Michael Williams is a
• 51:22
  little more of a speed rusher too.
• 51:23
  They need to replace in production when Nick with Nick
• 51:26
  Bosa hurt if they want to keep that defensive flow because like
• 51:28
  you've been saying all year, Errol, their offense is just
• 51:29
  Christian McCaffrey and really that's it.
• 51:31
  So they're going to have to really win on their defense on
• 51:33
  that front. Ravens I don't love necessarily.
• 51:36
  They already had enough defensive tackle.
• 51:37
  They need more edge. And the Eagles, like you said,
• 51:39
  that's a really good move because they can put Dejean now
• 51:41
  at safety, which is their free safety spot.
• 51:43
  That's probably their biggest weakness in their defense.
• 51:44
  That gives them a lot more versatility.
• 51:46
  Well, also the the injured Dean, Dean has been a big part of that
• 51:49
  defense. If Dean can't stay healthy, they
• 51:52
  can shift that that linebacker core.
• 51:55
  And if Phillips could run that that defense, he could very we
• 51:59
  he ran the Dolphins defense. So you know, he could be a
• 52:01
  captain of a defense. So we'll see where I I know he's
• 52:06
  an edge rusher fish, but he was drafted as a linebacker and
• 52:09
  they're not going to use him as an edge rusher.
• 52:11
  They're going to use him as a linebacker.
• 52:13
  Yeah, Victoria Fangio is going to blitz him in different areas
• 52:16
  too. Like the reason why the Eagles
• 52:18
  were successful is they were able to rush the passer without
• 52:20
  blitzing, but they didn't have the depth this year to do it as
• 52:22
  much because obviously they lost sweat in the offseason.
• 52:25
  Brandon Graham retired, but now he's come back and they Bryce
• 52:28
  Huff didn't work out over there. So they needed a more upside
• 52:31
  guy. Phillips, before he got hurt in
• 52:33
  2023 against The Jets, was probably the best edge rusher in
• 52:36
  that draft, and he was going to get a big contact from the
• 52:38
  Dolphins most likely the next year if they just paid shut.
• 52:40
  But it just didn't work out. He hasn't recovered since the
• 52:42
  Achilles. Then he got reinjured last year.
• 52:44
  But a team like the Eagles, he doesn't have to play as many
• 52:46
  reps as you saw their outside linebackers do a lot last year.
• 52:50
  Yeah, like obviously I've started watching the deadline a
• 52:54
  little bit more in football and I always wondered like when it
• 52:56
  gets to the obviously the deadline and and how different
• 53:00
  sports are different on how they, you know, add and subtract
• 53:05
  to their their rosters, lineups. However you want to say it is
• 53:08
  football more like a a long term like perfect place for them to
• 53:13
  fit instead of like a Band-Aid to fix something or them are
• 53:17
  band. Aids I think.
• 53:18
  A lot of these defensive players that were traded are band aids
• 53:20
  now. Some of them are year three
• 53:21
  players like try on, try on just signed a new deal.
• 53:25
  I think he got a two year deal. Like I said, Keon White is a
• 53:28
  year three player that I thought I thought was a first round pick
• 53:30
  the Patriots drafted in the second round.
• 53:32
  He had a good rookie year and then he's had injury issues
• 53:34
  since then. That's what most of those moves
• 53:36
  are going to be like. Arrow saying Myers is probably a
• 53:37
  rental for the Jaguars, but I think is a good fit for a slot
• 53:41
  receiver type because Brian Thomas is more of a physical
• 53:43
  possession type receiver. And I also read that the reason
• 53:46
  why they made the move for Phillips is because of the Dean
• 53:49
  situation. They don't know if Dean is going
• 53:51
  to be healthy and Dean has been out and up and out and up.
• 53:55
  They need something that they if, if need be, they got to
• 53:59
  shift the line or shift the line backing core.
• 54:02
  They can put him on the outside. They could put him on the
• 54:05
  inside. I know what he is as a pass rush
• 54:07
  of fish, but they don't really need pass rush help.
• 54:10
  They have not had problems in that category.
• 54:13
  They need help when it comes to the back end and really the
• 54:16
  depth. They don't have the depth they
• 54:19
  had last year because they traded away.
• 54:21
  I got to disagree. That's not I'm looking.
• 54:23
  They got Zach Bond, who was defensive player of the year
• 54:25
  last year basically for linebacker, at least he was the
• 54:29
  best linebacker in the league. He was All Pro.
• 54:31
  He's the other middle linebacker in that defense.
• 54:33
  They don't, they don't need to move him to middle linebacker.
• 54:36
  They also got Jaylix Hunt, who can play linebacker too.
• 54:39
  But they're going to put Hunt on one side and they're going to
• 54:42
  put Phillips on the other. They just haven't gotten a
• 54:46
  consistent edge rush this year. Now the Dean's always hurt.
• 54:50
  That was the thing with him. That's why he fell in the draft.
• 54:52
  Everybody knew he was a first round talent coming out of
• 54:55
  Georgia, right? That stacked defense and he fell
• 54:58
  to the third round. Everyone's like why?
• 55:00
  And then it came out during the draft.
• 55:01
  He's a medical and then he's been a medical his whole career.
• 55:04
  When he's out there, he's great, right?
• 55:06
  But he's not out there and the best ability availability.
• 55:10
  I wanted to highlight before we finish this segment, there's a
• 55:12
  guy that I got to bring this up and they're all, you know, I
• 55:14
  love bringing this up because we made a bet earlier in the season
• 55:18
  for the season about the Seahawks and Jackson Smith and
• 55:21
  Jig. Well, we didn't make a you
• 55:23
  didn't. You didn't want to make the bet
• 55:25
  or we didn't. We didn't finish the bet.
• 55:26
  Speedy. Did we finish the bet?
• 55:27
  We didn't. Decide on what the We didn't.
• 55:29
  Decide on what you said you were doing.
• 55:31
  It though. The best thing you can get a
• 55:34
  really good. Receipt.
• 55:35
  Don't worry, Jobber, you're not going to have to eat that
• 55:36
  popcorn because I'm not going to say anything yet, but it might
• 55:40
  come. Don't worry.
• 55:41
  Look, look, the best thing you can get a guy who's getting
• 55:44
  double covered every play is a guy who's like a burner on the
• 55:47
  other side of the field. And now Rashid Shaheed joins
• 55:51
  that Seahawks offense that's already like taking the top off
• 55:55
  of the NFL. Darnold has like an MVP
• 55:59
  candidate out of nowhere this year.
• 56:01
  He's on his like, third team in three years.
• 56:04
  And he's just so resilient. It's really like the story.
• 56:07
  The last, I don't think it's not enough is being made of.
• 56:10
  We talked about Baker Mayfield, but Darnold same thing, you
• 56:14
  know, and they cross paths and both look at both of them now
• 56:16
  and they're both MVP type candidates.
• 56:19
  And now you get him another guy to to like make a strength
• 56:22
  stronger. You know, you see a lot of
• 56:24
  coaches believe in this. Like when the Giants were going
• 56:27
  good, Ernie, of course he wanted to keep adding pass rushers.
• 56:31
  You got to let's get another one.
• 56:33
  Who cares if we have Michael Strahan on one side and OC and
• 56:37
  let let's get Justin Tuck. Let's get 3 and let's see if
• 56:40
  they can deal with it and we keep them fresh and rotate them
• 56:43
  and inside and NASCAR packages. It was awesome.
• 56:47
  And that was 20 years ago. It's no different now and I
• 56:50
  think that's what you're seeing. And now you have an offense that
• 56:53
  could do everything out there. They got 2 running backs
• 56:56
  everyone's afraid of with Walker and Charbonnet.
• 56:59
  They've got receiver at every position.
• 57:02
  They're good, man. They wanted to move A.J.
• 57:06
  Brown. I know there was a story coming
• 57:08
  out that they were shopping him. I don't think they were shopping
• 57:11
  him, even though Devante Smith has shown you that he could be
• 57:14
  another one guy. And I think they believe he's
• 57:17
  their number one guy. And Jalen Hurts would rather
• 57:20
  throw to Devante Smith than A.J. Brown.
• 57:23
  I mean, what book is A.J. Brown reading on the sidelines
• 57:26
  this year? That is going to be a story I'm
• 57:28
  interested to see. I mean, I don't know if he could
• 57:31
  do it double due see this year as he did last year.
• 57:35
  But I I like what the Eagles did.
• 57:37
  I think the Eagles are positioned to be a contender
• 57:40
  again. I already thought they were
• 57:42
  contender Saquon Barkley, I think was fighting injury early
• 57:46
  this season. I think he's starting to get
• 57:48
  healthy. You can see his game getting a
• 57:50
  little bit better. And I think there's just a
• 57:52
  little bit more trust in a little bit more belief in the
• 57:55
  organization and what the organization is doing because
• 57:58
  they have the best, I believe GM in all of sports.
• 58:03
  He has proven it. And I know what he is doing is
• 58:08
  been incredible over the last couple of years and, and how he
• 58:12
  is rocking and sucking for those Eagle fans.
• 58:15
  And no Eagle fan should be crying and throwing bricks or
• 58:19
  throwing rocks at any fans or any players because they have a
• 58:23
  chance to win back-to-back championships.
• 58:26
  And the last team to do it, the Kansas City.
• 58:28
  Was it the Kansas City? Yeah, two years ago.
• 58:30
  Yeah, it was the Kansas City Chiefs.
• 58:31
  So almost a three peat, you know.
• 58:34
  And who broke that? The Eagles, ladies and
• 58:38
  gentlemen, My Eagles fly. Eagles fly.
• 58:41
  You want to sing that, Speedy? No, I don't want you to sing it.
• 58:43
  I know you're a Giant. I know you're a giant fan.
• 58:46
  Lose it, Lose it. Zipper it tonight.
• 58:49
  I'm losing it tonight. And no popcorn tonight, Jabba.
• 58:52
  Well, there might be popcorn later.
• 58:54
  Popcorn later. There might be craziness, but
• 58:58
  yeah, it's been a crazy one. Yeah, my deuce of the day.
• 59:02
  The deuce of the day you log not a log.
• 59:06
  I don't have a log but. You know, oh, there's a lot of
• 59:15
  crying for all the fans. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, a lot
• 59:19
  of crying because there will not be a November 14th fight in
• 59:25
  Miami. Ladies and gentlemen, it was
• 59:29
  canceled. Javante Tank Davis is subjected
• 59:35
  to a civil lawsuit related to criminal investigations with no
• 59:40
  fight because of that as there was stories coming out from the
• 59:45
  Davis camp, an ex-girlfriend accusing Davis of assault and
• 59:50
  battery, aggravated battery, which is even worse, and false
• 59:54
  imprisonment, kidnapping and and much, much more.
• 59:58
  And everybody was and including yours truly.
• 1:00:01
  There was a build up for this fight.
• 1:00:03
  I wanted to see Tank, you know, Tank Davis knock this guy out
• 1:00:07
  and finally end the Jake Paul situation.
• 1:00:10
  But again, Jake, Paul ducks and weaves.
• 1:00:14
  Again, ladies and gentlemen, it is perfect for the Paul camp to
• 1:00:19
  see this. Absolutely horrible fitting
• 1:00:23
  fight. Completely be washed away as
• 1:00:27
  Moses parted to see Jake Paul parts a knockout.
• 1:00:33
  So what is that spell for our deuce of the day?
• 1:00:38
  It spells an absolute debacle for a fight.
• 1:00:43
  So my Deuce of the Day goes to Devante Tank Davis.
• 1:00:47
  And what are you doing? I don't know why you put your
• 1:00:49
  hands on a woman. And then Jake Paul being saved
• 1:00:53
  by the bell. Yes, I love it.
• 1:00:57
  The My Deuce of the Day. It's beautiful.
• 1:00:59
  And no, it wasn't about Travis Hunter or the Gremlin, as we
• 1:01:03
  call him. He's done for the season.
• 1:01:05
  I win the bet. Where are you?
• 1:01:07
  Quitting couples When? I need you now.
• 1:01:11
  In just a few moments after our break, after our sports minute,
• 1:01:15
  we will be talking to former 14 year NBA referee and the author
• 1:01:22
  of the book Personal Foul. He's been on the lookout for all
• 1:01:28
  these betting scandals that have been going on with the NBA and
• 1:01:32
  now he will be joining Jabba in the mouth.
• 1:01:35
  The one, the only Tim Donaghy will be joining us when we come
• 1:01:41
  back here on Job in the Mouth this.
• 1:01:46
  Is the Jabba and the Mouth sportsman ads?
• 1:01:51
  What is up guys? Iron fisherman here with your
• 1:01:54
  sportsman. They got a couple of stories
• 1:01:55
  before we get into the scores this evening.
• 1:01:58
  UFC CEO Dana White told ESPN that he had met with the FBI
• 1:02:03
  after suspicious betting patterns were discovered in the
• 1:02:05
  UFC fight this past Saturday night.
• 1:02:08
  According to White, the UFC was alerted to strange betting
• 1:02:10
  patterns on the Isaac Dulgarian versus the Yadier Devali fight
• 1:02:14
  at UFC Fight Night. The Dulgarian was submitted in
• 1:02:17
  the first round by Diwali after being a two a -. 250 favorite
• 1:02:22
  for the fight. The gambling watchdog company
• 1:02:25
  Integrity Compliance 360 IC 360 alerted authorities and the UFC
• 1:02:30
  after multiple large bets were flagged at multiple sports books
• 1:02:34
  on this card. The Caesar's Sports Book
• 1:02:36
  refunded bets on Dulgarian after the suspicious outcome.
• 1:02:40
  IC 360 reached out to it and told us that there was some
• 1:02:42
  unusual action going on with that fight and asked did we know
• 1:02:45
  anything? I told TMZ we didn't.
• 1:02:48
  We called the fighter and his lawyer and said what's going on?
• 1:02:50
  Are you injured? Do you owe anybody money?
• 1:02:53
  Has anybody approached you? The kid said absolutely not, I'm
• 1:02:56
  going to kill this guy. The fight plays out first round
• 1:02:58
  finish. Literally the first thing we did
• 1:03:01
  was call the FBII met the FBI twice Tuesday.
• 1:03:05
  The UFC then released Dulgarian from the promotion in the
• 1:03:09
  fallouts of what looks pretty clearly to be a rigged fight.
• 1:03:14
  And LA Clippers owner and former Microsoft Co founder Steve
• 1:03:18
  Ballmer is now being sued by 11 former Aspiration investors.
• 1:03:23
  According to investigative sports journalist Pablo Torre,
• 1:03:25
  who first broke the bombshell story before the NBA season of
• 1:03:29
  the Clippers and Kawhi Leonard using a fraudulent and now
• 1:03:32
  defunct company as a front to cheat the NBA salary cap.
• 1:03:36
  The new lawsuit alleges that Ballmer aided an abetted
• 1:03:39
  Aspiration Co founder Joe Sandberg.
• 1:03:41
  Sandberg is scheduled to be sentenced to up to 40 years in
• 1:03:44
  jail for wire fraud in late February of 26.
• 1:03:48
  The 11 plaintiffs say that Ballmer and his scheme to cheat
• 1:03:51
  the salary cap allowed Sandberg to continue with his
• 1:03:54
  self-serving fraud and without Ballmer support could never have
• 1:03:57
  defrauded the 11 investors and perpetrated the large scale
• 1:04:01
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  on this show for years. I reached out to Speedy and I
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  said reach out to this guy, let's get him on the show.
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  I think he has a lot to give and some of the information that's
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  going on in sports betting. He is a former 14 year NBA
• 1:07:28
  referee and the author and book of Personal value.
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  He is the guy that created the book of Personal Foul, the one
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  the only Tim Donaghy. Tim, what is up my friend?
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  Hey, not much. How you guys doing?
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  Thanks for having me. Well, we're happy to have you,
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  man. And there's a lot of stuff going
• 1:07:47
  on in the NBA and now we're hearing in the UFC, so it seems
• 1:07:52
  like it's flustering in many different ways in many different
• 1:07:56
  sports. I'm flustered.
• 1:07:58
  I I wrote a story about Dana White.
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  So maybe it's just me. Maybe I just caused a lot of
• 1:08:03
  trouble for the the UFC. Maybe not.
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  I'm I'm trying to give myself some kind of pat on the back.
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  But you've been on, you know, you've been on different shows
• 1:08:12
  around the country and you've been talking about sports
• 1:08:15
  betting and sports betting is really controlled, I think
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  professional sports for more than 50 years.
• 1:08:22
  It's been around forever. And you, you've been behind it
• 1:08:26
  for a very, very long time. You've you've done time because
• 1:08:29
  of it. First of all, I want to get into
• 1:08:32
  your career and on how you got into refereeing.
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  I know your father was a referee in college sports and and the
• 1:08:40
  and the NBA. Tell us a little bit about what
• 1:08:44
  made you become a referee and the, you know, the back end of
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  your career before you became a referee.
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  My dad was a top college basketball referee.
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  My uncle Billy Oakes was an NBA ref.
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  And I came from Howard Town, Pennsylvania, where there were,
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  you know, four or five other NBA referees, Callahan Crawford,
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  Javi Wunderlich. And, you know, with situation
• 1:09:07
  where, you know, we all kind of just grew up in that area and
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  had the ability to, you know, listen and learn from each
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  other. And with that, I just decided to
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  pursue, you know, in their footsteps.
• 1:09:21
  And I was fortunate enough to get in a training program and
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  eventually, at age 26, get hired by the NBA.
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  Now, David Stern is a guy that was very well respected for NBA
• 1:09:32
  fans. I I respected David Stern.
• 1:09:34
  He he really chant transition the NBA to what it is today and
• 1:09:39
  gave it to Adam Silver. And now I believe it's the LJA.
• 1:09:42
  It's not the NBA. It's called the LeBron James
• 1:09:45
  Association because it seems like everything is run by run
• 1:09:49
  through LeBron James, as we all know as we watched Luka Doncic
• 1:09:52
  get traded out of nowhere last year at the trade deadline when
• 1:09:55
  everybody was shocked and surprised.
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  Tell us a little bit about your connections with David Stern.
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  Obviously David Stern was, you know, the the commissioner of
• 1:10:05
  the NBA when you were a referee in the NBA, what type of
• 1:10:09
  commissioner was he in the NBA? You know, really I didn't have
• 1:10:12
  any interaction with him, but I can just tell you, you know,
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  with the situation that I was involved with and the FBI agents
• 1:10:19
  getting involved, they said that he was his worse than any other
• 1:10:23
  mob boss I ever investigated. They just said he was ruthless,
• 1:10:26
  and he was just, you know, conniving.
• 1:10:29
  And he was manipulative. And, you know, they just said
• 1:10:32
  that he was, you know, worse than any mob boss they ever
• 1:10:35
  investigated. And he was somebody that, you
• 1:10:38
  know, did a lot of things behind the scenes to, you know, benefit
• 1:10:42
  himself in the NBA. July 20th, 2007 The New York
• 1:10:46
  Post columnist Mr. Wise first reported the investigation into
• 1:10:50
  your situation and from the bets from NBA games from 2005 and
• 1:10:57
  2007. Tell us a little bit about that
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  situation. Well, when I started the gamble,
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  and I just started the gamble on college events and then
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  eventually pro events and then, you know, start to bet on a lot
• 1:11:11
  of events that were taking place with a buddy of mine named Jack
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  and Cannon. And then from there, you know,
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  when I had information on NBA games, I told him about that.
• 1:11:20
  And then eventually, even NBA games that I officiated, when,
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  you know, inside information became talked about in the
• 1:11:27
  meetings, I would take that information.
• 1:11:29
  And if I felt the line was four or five points off, I would tell
• 1:11:33
  certain people to bet the games. And, you know, they were doing
• 1:11:36
  well betting the games and passing the information along to
• 1:11:40
  people associated with organized crime.
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  And, you know, they started to use it.
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  And then when I wanted to stop doing it, they, you know, had
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  somebody come and pick me up and tell me that we weren't going to
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  stop, that I was going to continue to give them the picks
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  that I had been given, you know, to a buddy of mine.
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  Everybody talks about the, the integrity of the game and, and
• 1:11:59
  what the game really brings to the world and, and all the
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  international people and, and players that have come over the
• 1:12:06
  last couple of years. Now, Tim, you look at the game
• 1:12:10
  and you look to transition of the game.
• 1:12:11
  Obviously the Chauncey Bill Billup story is the big one.
• 1:12:15
  When you look at Chauncey Billups, he's very well
• 1:12:18
  respected around the league. He's a coach and you hear these
• 1:12:21
  stories about the the scandal that he was in with the glasses
• 1:12:25
  and and working with the Gambino family or the four families that
• 1:12:30
  were involved in all these different stories.
• 1:12:33
  When you heard Chauncey Phillips name get brought up into that
• 1:12:36
  story, what what were your thoughts to it?
• 1:12:38
  You know, just kind of shocked that, you know, an active NBA
• 1:12:42
  coach was involved in poker games and Lauren people there,
• 1:12:46
  you know, for the purpose of basically robbing them.
• 1:12:48
  So kind of shocking that he was involved in that and some of the
• 1:12:51
  other things of, you know, basically giving information
• 1:12:55
  about what was going to go on in a game he was involved with, if
• 1:12:59
  they were going to tank or not. And if certain star players
• 1:13:02
  weren't playing, you know, he was passing that information
• 1:13:05
  along too. So, you know, it was kind of
• 1:13:07
  shocking that it got to the point where, you know, he was
• 1:13:10
  doing stuff like that. I've gone back and forth with
• 1:13:13
  the Terra Rozier thing because the NBA were investigating and
• 1:13:17
  then let him play. Porter was pretty much thrown to
• 1:13:20
  the wolves. I believe the NBA did that to
• 1:13:23
  you because I think there were other people involved in your
• 1:13:26
  scandal and they really pushed it on you.
• 1:13:29
  I believe the NBA protected themselves and didn't protect
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  you. And I heard different stories
• 1:13:36
  behind it. When you think of the NBA after
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  what the NBA did to you and and you see what the NBA is dealing
• 1:13:42
  with right now, what do you think of the NBA after the fact
• 1:13:46
  that they point, they pointed the finger at you and nobody
• 1:13:49
  else? Right.
• 1:13:50
  I mean, I have a text message from an FBI agent that said,
• 1:13:53
  hey, Tim, doesn't look like they're going to be able to
• 1:13:55
  cover this up like they did in your situation.
• 1:13:57
  So, you know, I think that, you know, definitely they covered a
• 1:14:02
  lot up. There was other people that I
• 1:14:03
  know the FBI wanted to indict. And it just seems like the
• 1:14:07
  prosecutor who later went to work at a law firm that got all
• 1:14:12
  the outside legal counsel work, you know, from the NBA since he
• 1:14:16
  went there, you know, seemed to be, you know, running the
• 1:14:20
  investigation with David Stern. So, you know, it's just, you
• 1:14:23
  know, a lot of strange things definitely go on in regard to
• 1:14:26
  the NBA and how they conduct business.
• 1:14:28
  We are talking to former 14 year NBA referee, author of the book
• 1:14:33
  Personal, Tim Donaghy. Everybody knows him and, and,
• 1:14:37
  and to me, I don't know. I haven't checked out your book.
• 1:14:40
  I'm definitely going to buy it. It came out in 2009.
• 1:14:43
  Tell us a little bit about the book and did you actually write
• 1:14:47
  it when you were in jail? I did.
• 1:14:48
  I wrote it when I was in jail, would mail each chapter back to
• 1:14:53
  my mom, who would type it up nice and neat and then mail it
• 1:14:56
  back to me. And then we just put the whole
• 1:14:58
  thing together and thankfully got it published when the NBA
• 1:15:01
  went into, you know, the office of Random House, who was going
• 1:15:06
  to print the book and basically threaten them and went in the
• 1:15:09
  offices of 60 minutes and and asked them not to air the
• 1:15:12
  episode right before we published the book.
• 1:15:14
  So, you know, it's just a lot of the underhanded things that,
• 1:15:18
  like you said, David Stern was involved with and, and and doing
• 1:15:22
  to me. Well, we all know what happened
• 1:15:24
  with the New York Knicks and there were stories coming out
• 1:15:27
  that the reason why they, the Knicks won the lottery with
• 1:15:31
  Patrick Ewing is because the card was cold and he pulled it
• 1:15:35
  out and the Knicks won. Patrick Ewing and the Knicks
• 1:15:37
  have never gotten the number one pick since then.
• 1:15:40
  They've been really, really bad. So I could believe that there's
• 1:15:43
  something behind the NBA and David Stern over the years, and
• 1:15:47
  I believe Adam Silver lets the players run the league.
• 1:15:50
  It's been a big problem over the last couple of years, as I call
• 1:15:53
  it, not the NBA. And anybody listen to this show?
• 1:15:56
  I call it the LJA, the LeBron James Association, because it
• 1:15:59
  seems like everything goes through LeBron James with all of
• 1:16:02
  the different things that have happened in the league,
• 1:16:05
  including picking the United States basketball team as he
• 1:16:10
  didn't want certain players to be on the team and they were not
• 1:16:13
  picked to be on the team. I don't know if it's a winky
• 1:16:16
  dink, but it seems like it is. But that's a whole nother story.
• 1:16:21
  You you talk about the Mafia and the five, the four families that
• 1:16:26
  were caught behind this scandal with the Billups, the Jones and
• 1:16:30
  the Rozier story. You were tied up with the
• 1:16:33
  Gambino family. Tell us a little bit about the
• 1:16:35
  Gambino family and how you were tied up with them.
• 1:16:38
  You know, there was just a buddy of mine I went to high school
• 1:16:41
  with and he knew this guy that also went to our high school.
• 1:16:44
  And, you know, when I wasn't giving the pics anymore to a
• 1:16:48
  buddy of mine, I didn't know behind my back he was getting
• 1:16:52
  them. And this guy was associated with
• 1:16:54
  organized crime and wanted to continue to get those picks.
• 1:16:56
  So he just, you know, set a meeting up with Tommy Martino.
• 1:17:01
  And when I was in Philadelphia to referee the Sixers and the
• 1:17:04
  Celtics and basically showed up at my hotel and said he had
• 1:17:08
  known what I had been doing for years and he wanted to continue
• 1:17:12
  to get those picks. And if I didn't give him the
• 1:17:14
  picks, you know, he'd have somebody, you know, expose me to
• 1:17:18
  the NBA for the Game 1 I had done in the past because I
• 1:17:21
  wasn't supposed to place a bet of any kind or worse yet, have
• 1:17:24
  somebody visit my wife and kids in Florida.
• 1:17:27
  College basketball is, we had Brendan Snyder on on Monday and
• 1:17:31
  he was talking about how important college basketball is
• 1:17:34
  when it comes to signing autographs and getting these
• 1:17:36
  players. Now with the NIL deals and and
• 1:17:39
  the way these players can make money now off their own
• 1:17:41
  autographs, he says that's where everything's transitioning in.
• 1:17:44
  Do you believe that sports betting is going to transition
• 1:17:48
  even more into college sports and why?
• 1:17:50
  I don't think it is. I think it's going to come to a
• 1:17:52
  a little bit of a hope because I think it just exploded so quick.
• 1:17:55
  And the benefits of the league's bottom line because of being
• 1:18:00
  involved with these gambling sites now, I think moved way too
• 1:18:04
  fast. And I think at the college
• 1:18:05
  level, they want to try to keep it away from these student
• 1:18:08
  athletes as much as possible. So, you know, I think it's
• 1:18:11
  they're going to have to find some type of way to slow this
• 1:18:14
  down a little bit, get these prop bets under control so that,
• 1:18:17
  you know, more players don't, you know, end up doing what
• 1:18:21
  these guys did. And I think you're going to find
• 1:18:23
  out that more players whose names aren't even been released
• 1:18:27
  yet are involved in this. So I think there's more to it
• 1:18:30
  and I think it's just not out yet.
• 1:18:32
  Tim Baseball. Go ahead.
• 1:18:34
  Go ahead, Jabba. Go ahead, Jabba.
• 1:18:35
  Yeah, No, there's been, I think 4 guys this year in baseball
• 1:18:39
  too. And Ariel brings up college
• 1:18:41
  basketball. Do you think that in other
• 1:18:44
  sports have we seen in baseball now, do you think it is, is
• 1:18:47
  going to become as prevalent in, in, in the other sports as kind
• 1:18:51
  of we're seeing, you know, what they're like making an example
• 1:18:54
  out of the NBA now that we're going to see a little bit more
• 1:18:57
  come to the forefront in the other sports as well?
• 1:19:00
  You know, I think it happens in all sports.
• 1:19:02
  I think right now it's the NBA who was exposed and and under
• 1:19:07
  the fire. I think with this, you may find
• 1:19:09
  out that there's other people in other sports involved and it's
• 1:19:12
  just the the tip of the iceberg right now.
• 1:19:14
  So I think there's a lot more to come with this, to be honest
• 1:19:18
  with you. We are talking to former 14 year
• 1:19:20
  NBA referee, author of the book Personal Foul, Tim Donaghy.
• 1:19:25
  He has been all over over the last couple of weeks speaking
• 1:19:29
  about this sports betting and now you're hearing something
• 1:19:32
  that the UFC has to investigate and Dana White baseball has
• 1:19:37
  dealt with this over the last couple of years, the Shay Otani
• 1:19:42
  story. I'm sure you heard about the
• 1:19:43
  Shay Otani story and the FBI. The FBI was involved with it.
• 1:19:47
  They investigated it for two weeks and there were so many
• 1:19:49
  offshore accounts. There was so much money involved
• 1:19:52
  in this. As a matter of fact, some people
• 1:19:54
  say at first they were saying between 15 and 18,000,000.
• 1:19:58
  Now they're saying between 25 and 30 million.
• 1:20:01
  And there's five different accountants or four different
• 1:20:04
  accountants Share Otani goes to when it comes to his money.
• 1:20:07
  And it's really surprising that Share Otani didn't know that
• 1:20:12
  there was $25 million missing out of his account.
• 1:20:15
  Now I know he's a very rich man. I know he's an international
• 1:20:18
  superstar, but it's it's it's pretty interesting when you hear
• 1:20:21
  a story like this and you look at Pete Rose and Tim, you know
• 1:20:25
  Pete Rose. I'm sure you're a Pete Rose fan
• 1:20:28
  who never has been inducted into Hall of Fame because he bet on
• 1:20:31
  baseball, bet for his team against other teams when he was
• 1:20:35
  a manager and was never really allowed to be brought back in
• 1:20:38
  baseball. When you look at that situation
• 1:20:41
  that baseball had to deal with with Jay Otani, do you think
• 1:20:43
  they did the right thing? Do you think they investigated
• 1:20:46
  it deeper or they should have? I think they should have
• 1:20:49
  investigated it deeper, but do you think they investigated deep
• 1:20:52
  enough when it came to Sheila Tani?
• 1:20:54
  No, because I don't think there's any way that, you know,
• 1:20:57
  he didn't realize $30 million was missing out of his bank
• 1:21:00
  account. I think the Major League
• 1:21:03
  Baseball know for a fact that he was involved in it.
• 1:21:06
  And they don't want to kill, kill the golden goose who's
• 1:21:09
  bringing them global attention, you know, at this point.
• 1:21:12
  So I think that they covered this whole thing up.
• 1:21:14
  I don't think if there's any doubt that, you know, he was
• 1:21:17
  involved in placing these bets on on these games.
• 1:21:19
  A. Guy that you know well and Scott
• 1:21:21
  Foster, another referee that I allegedly was caught in in this,
• 1:21:25
  but then they said he wasn't. He was not charged with
• 1:21:27
  anything. There was a lot of these false
• 1:21:28
  reports, but I know you're close with him.
• 1:21:31
  Do you know anything about any other referees that might be
• 1:21:33
  connected in the modern game now?
• 1:21:34
  And what do you think the NBA should do to approach it now?
• 1:21:37
  You know, no, I can't tell if anybody else is, you know,
• 1:21:40
  involved in, in gambling at this point.
• 1:21:42
  I really couldn't hear him. But yeah, Foster was a friend of
• 1:21:47
  mine, and as far as him being involved in this, he definitely
• 1:21:52
  wasn't involved in any shape, way, shape or form with myself.
• 1:21:55
  They obviously probably approach you when does like the FBI and
• 1:21:58
  it go like to the next step of just not just the NBA, but
• 1:22:01
  getting authorities involved after that.
• 1:22:04
  I'm not sure what you mean, but they, you know, the FBI got
• 1:22:07
  involved and do an investigation of a game being a wiretap.
• 1:22:10
  And I guess that's how they heard of, you know, our entire
• 1:22:14
  situation. And from there, once I had known
• 1:22:17
  that an investigation started, I kind of went to them and had an
• 1:22:21
  attorney call them. Tim, you look at the FBI and the
• 1:22:23
  FBI has they investigated your case and they dug deep into your
• 1:22:28
  case and now you're looking at Chauncey Bill, UPS, Rozier and
• 1:22:32
  Jones. And they were kind of grading
• 1:22:34
  where these guys were. I mean, honestly, they're saying
• 1:22:37
  Jones is going to get the smack if down late on him because they
• 1:22:41
  think he was involved with all three situations.
• 1:22:45
  Rozier betting on games and actually shaving off points.
• 1:22:49
  That was really bad. And they said Chauncey Billups,
• 1:22:51
  he might see jail time, he might not.
• 1:22:54
  It depends on how they can investigate it and pin it on him
• 1:22:58
  because there are things that maybe might not be able to be
• 1:23:01
  pinned on him. When you look at all three of
• 1:23:03
  these guys and like you said, there are other guys that are
• 1:23:06
  are involved with it. You've heard that Kevin Garnett
• 1:23:09
  was at these games that was robbed.
• 1:23:11
  You have heard of other NBA players that have been shown.
• 1:23:14
  I've shown up to these betting games in these these games.
• 1:23:18
  Do you think that the NBA is going to pull out even bigger
• 1:23:23
  names involved in this case I? Think they're going to do
• 1:23:25
  whatever they can to minimize the damage and minimize the
• 1:23:28
  names that come out from this but unlike the situation with
• 1:23:32
  myself, they're not controlling this investigation.
• 1:23:35
  I think the FBI is saying that, you know, we're going to get
• 1:23:38
  this right this time and we're going to do it by, you know,
• 1:23:41
  processing, prosecuting these guys to the fullest extent of
• 1:23:44
  the law. So I think, again, this is just
• 1:23:47
  something that's getting started and there's a lot more to it.
• 1:23:49
  You have Le Bron, James, you have Yanis.
• 1:23:52
  And I'm not saying they're involved with it.
• 1:23:53
  I'm not pinning them on this story.
• 1:23:56
  But if these names were involved in this case, could you see the
• 1:24:00
  NBA pushing this under the rug and trying to push the FBI
• 1:24:05
  outside of this circle that they're in right now?
• 1:24:08
  If it was a big superstar like Shay Otani with baseball.
• 1:24:11
  I think that they would do everything they can to, to cover
• 1:24:14
  it up and, and, and do that. But I like I said, I don't think
• 1:24:17
  that's going to happen this time.
• 1:24:18
  I thought back in the day, David Stern was involved in running my
• 1:24:22
  whole investigation. You know, the, the United States
• 1:24:26
  Attorney that was working the case at the time left there and
• 1:24:29
  went to a law firm and started getting all outside legal
• 1:24:32
  counsel work from the NBA. So, you know, I don't think that
• 1:24:36
  they're going to be able to get the guys that they need to to be
• 1:24:39
  their puppets and do what they did back in the day with me.
• 1:24:42
  I think these guys, you know, want to get this right.
• 1:24:45
  And I think the FBI is not going to be embarrassed and they're
• 1:24:47
  going to make it right. With these prop bets and
• 1:24:49
  obviously with how prevalent like, you know, the gambling
• 1:24:52
  websites as far as advertising like on, you know, the networks
• 1:24:56
  that are showing baseball, basketball, football, like
• 1:24:58
  DraftKings, whatever, like use LeBron, he's one of the
• 1:25:01
  spokesperson for DraftKings. Do you think they're to get it
• 1:25:04
  right? Do you think they have to
• 1:25:05
  eliminate, you know, things like prophets or certain things that
• 1:25:08
  are easier to kind of dictate through, you know, them being
• 1:25:12
  involved in in representing the the DraftKings or whatever then
• 1:25:17
  also playing as well? Yeah, I mean, definitely you can
• 1:25:20
  get rid of the prop bets or one way you can do it is just have
• 1:25:23
  it you can only take the over. You can't take the under of the
• 1:25:26
  Prof bets because, you know, make the players go out and play
• 1:25:29
  hard and try to, you know, hit the over mark.
• 1:25:32
  So this way there's no worry about somebody tanking for the
• 1:25:35
  under. You can only bet the over and
• 1:25:38
  and set that at an amount. So there's, there's no tanking
• 1:25:40
  when it comes to it. But, you know, I think there's
• 1:25:43
  somehow some way they have to try and put the genie back in
• 1:25:46
  the bottle and get this under control so that, you know, this
• 1:25:50
  thing doesn't ever happen again. Well, it it's going to be very,
• 1:25:53
  very hard when it's international now it's national.
• 1:25:57
  There's how many states involved with it and, and everybody,
• 1:26:00
  everybody's involved with it, Tim, you know this everybody is
• 1:26:03
  and, and, and again, I think prophets should be taken out of
• 1:26:07
  the game, especially the NBA, because these players seem to
• 1:26:10
  think that they can get away with it now.
• 1:26:13
  I think that when you look at Porter and what Porter got, he
• 1:26:16
  got a life ban. And I think the same thing when
• 1:26:19
  it comes to steroids. I think there should be
• 1:26:21
  something as as bad as it is, they should grade it.
• 1:26:24
  If it's graded to that potential where it's going to be a life
• 1:26:28
  ban, then you can you can give them a life ban.
• 1:26:30
  But there has to be a grade like steroids that if you do it once,
• 1:26:34
  you're suspended for a year. If you're do it the second time,
• 1:26:37
  you're out for this or there's got to be something.
• 1:26:39
  When you look at sports betting and you look at the league in
• 1:26:42
  the NBA, do they figure out some kind of rule or regulation that
• 1:26:47
  could obviously they they could put into effect for the future
• 1:26:50
  for the NB? AI have no idea, you know, what
• 1:26:53
  the best, you know, scenario would be.
• 1:26:55
  But when it comes to gamble and I think that they have to take
• 1:26:58
  a, you know, a hard stance because it really, you know,
• 1:27:02
  hits at the integrity of the game.
• 1:27:03
  And if you don't have the integrity of the game intact,
• 1:27:06
  was already in question with the NBA, you know, it's tough to
• 1:27:09
  keep in the stands. And without the fans in the
• 1:27:13
  stands, you know the the game suffers.
• 1:27:14
  It's just a situation where you know you got to just get it
• 1:27:17
  going and hope things change. We're talking to Tim Donaghy, he
• 1:27:20
  14 year NBA referee, author of the book Personal foul.
• 1:27:24
  Go check it out. Go to any bookstore.
• 1:27:26
  I'm sure they're they're in Amazon.
• 1:27:28
  You can find the book. I'm going to go buy the book,
• 1:27:30
  Tim, and then I want to talk one-on-one with you and go over
• 1:27:33
  each chapter about your book because I think it would be
• 1:27:37
  absolutely great to talk about fully your book in the inside
• 1:27:40
  and out of what happened in your career as a as a basketball
• 1:27:44
  referee. You look at, you know, the
• 1:27:47
  situation the NBA is in now and, and now the league as a whole
• 1:27:52
  and, and now you have Adam Silver.
• 1:27:54
  It's not David Stern. So it's a completely different
• 1:27:57
  commissioner. And I think he's been more
• 1:27:59
  lenient in in certain ways. I think he's let the players
• 1:28:03
  really run the league. And a lot of people have
• 1:28:05
  complained about the NBA, about the different stuff that has
• 1:28:08
  gone on the under the table stuff, the Kawhi Leonard thing
• 1:28:12
  that came out. You just heard it from Fish in
• 1:28:14
  our Sports Minute. Do you think that something
• 1:28:17
  needs to be done with the commissioner?
• 1:28:19
  Maybe Adam Silver is way over his head.
• 1:28:21
  You know it's a possibility because he definitely has taken
• 1:28:25
  a much softer stance. And David Stern, you know, ever
• 1:28:29
  took. So maybe somebody in the middle
• 1:28:31
  would be a happy medium. But yeah, it seems like, you
• 1:28:34
  know, Silver's got a lot of problems that he needs to get
• 1:28:36
  rectified in a hurry. I, I'm, to me, I'm not a betting
• 1:28:40
  man. I don't.
• 1:28:42
  I do a sports radio show. A lot of people come to me and
• 1:28:45
  they ask me what props bet my, my sister won $800 recently
• 1:28:49
  because I gave her a props bet and a parlay and she called me
• 1:28:52
  up. Oh my God, I put $20.00.
• 1:28:54
  I won $800. I could do this.
• 1:28:56
  I could do that. So I, I don't bet on sports
• 1:28:59
  because it just, it's not my thing.
• 1:29:02
  All right, But I love sports and I look at things and I calculate
• 1:29:05
  statistics and generate certain numbers, but it's not always
• 1:29:10
  right. When you look at your Vegas in
• 1:29:12
  Vegas is I think 65% right or 68.
• 1:29:16
  I don't know what the number is. Now when you look at Vegas and,
• 1:29:19
  and, and the numbers and, and how it generates, it generates
• 1:29:22
  as a whole. Do you think that one way or
• 1:29:25
  another, Vegas needs to be controlled in some kind of way
• 1:29:28
  by these? You know, by the FB I or the
• 1:29:30
  leagues out there. Here there has to be some type
• 1:29:33
  of independent monitoring system that you can really spit out the
• 1:29:37
  the red flags with your regular betting.
• 1:29:40
  But there's a lot of situations where you can bet overseas or or
• 1:29:43
  different avenues, not just in the United States.
• 1:29:46
  So if you want to get the money down, they'll still be able to
• 1:29:49
  get the money down. All right, let's talk about what
• 1:29:51
  you're doing now. Now I heard you're doing real
• 1:29:53
  estates and you've been very successful.
• 1:29:57
  Tell us a little bit about what you've been doing since all that
• 1:30:00
  stuff happened to you. Yeah, I got involved, you know,
• 1:30:03
  in real estate at the right time back in 2009 and 10, where
• 1:30:06
  nobody really wanted the properties, was able to get them
• 1:30:09
  cheap at an auction, fix them up, rent them out.
• 1:30:12
  Now I have several properties that, you know, I'm basically
• 1:30:16
  just monitoring them and the landlord of.
• 1:30:18
  You, you got to give me some tips, man.
• 1:30:20
  I mean, I'm doing a little side work as well.
• 1:30:23
  I, I got somebody helping me out, teaching me the ropes.
• 1:30:26
  And it's, it can get confusing because percentages and what
• 1:30:31
  you're putting into it, you want to make sure that you're getting
• 1:30:34
  something out of it. And it kind of throws you off
• 1:30:36
  because I'm lackluster when it comes to statistics and numbers
• 1:30:40
  when it comes to money. I've made a lot of mistakes in
• 1:30:43
  my time, my friend, and I'm a little lost.
• 1:30:45
  So maybe we could talk off air. Maybe you could give me some of
• 1:30:49
  your tips? I'm definitely interested now.
• 1:30:51
  You got a family, you got daughters.
• 1:30:54
  Tell us a little bit about your family life since the situation
• 1:30:58
  and and how they handled everything.
• 1:31:00
  Thankfully they handled it great, was fortunate enough that
• 1:31:02
  after I got out I rebuilt my life, like I said, through real
• 1:31:05
  estate. All my daughters are happy and
• 1:31:07
  healthy. One of them, the youngest 1,
• 1:31:09
  still lives with me. So you know, just been lucky
• 1:31:11
  that they were resilient. We were able to get past
• 1:31:14
  everything. I want to get into Goodfellas.
• 1:31:16
  Everybody was talking about the murders that they did and all
• 1:31:19
  the other stuff, the drug dealing, but the real reason why
• 1:31:23
  they got caught was sports betting And it was that Boston
• 1:31:27
  College, you know, the two players from Boston College and
• 1:31:30
  I, I investigated and I was like, well, and then he was on
• 1:31:34
  the Howard Stern show and he was talking about he's like, it was
• 1:31:37
  nothing with the drugs. It was nothing with this.
• 1:31:40
  They wanted to catch the sports betting and, and what we were
• 1:31:42
  doing, shaving off points. When you when you hear something
• 1:31:46
  like that and and that was before you, was that something
• 1:31:49
  that really sunk in when you kind of seen stories or heard of
• 1:31:54
  stories of that magnitude? Yeah, I mean, I always heard of
• 1:31:56
  the famous Boston College scandal, so as depicted as they
• 1:32:01
  said in Goodfellas. So yeah, no, it's definitely
• 1:32:05
  that situation like this are going to come up time to time
• 1:32:08
  and you just have to hope that they're, you know, minimal and
• 1:32:11
  damage that they do the sports league.
• 1:32:13
  So, you know, I think this one, like I said earlier, is
• 1:32:16
  something that's going to be much bigger than what it is
• 1:32:18
  right now. It's just, it's just getting
• 1:32:20
  started. All right, so may he rest in
• 1:32:23
  peace. If if David Stern was alive
• 1:32:26
  today, OK, he was alive today and we could set up a celebrity
• 1:32:30
  boxing match. Would you get in the ring with
• 1:32:33
  David Stern? I would.
• 1:32:34
  I would love it. Trust me, I would love it.
• 1:32:38
  I'll tell you what, maybe we can hook you up with Adam Silver.
• 1:32:41
  I, I see that he has these big ears.
• 1:32:43
  He could flop outside of the ring.
• 1:32:44
  I mean, he might be able to fly. I mean, he could do the matrix
• 1:32:47
  against you. I don't know.
• 1:32:49
  I, it's, it's an interesting story because I, I think, I
• 1:32:54
  really think that they shafted you.
• 1:32:56
  I, I, I mean reading the different stories that I've read
• 1:32:59
  and behind the scenes, I didn't read your book yet and I'm going
• 1:33:02
  to read your book now and I would love to get you on the
• 1:33:05
  show to talk about your book and go inside and out of the
• 1:33:08
  chapters and, and the trials and tribulations.
• 1:33:11
  What was it like going to jail? Federal Penitentiary.
• 1:33:14
  Definitely not fun, you know, not fun at all.
• 1:33:15
  A lot of long, boring, lonely nights.
• 1:33:19
  But, you know, I was fortunate enough that I got through it.
• 1:33:21
  Yeah, it's I've never been to jail.
• 1:33:25
  I, I've seen a lot of different things over the years, but I've
• 1:33:29
  never really experienced it. So I couldn't imagine it going
• 1:33:32
  to a federal penitentiary and, and dealing with that as long as
• 1:33:35
  you did. And that's still a long time, 15
• 1:33:37
  months is a long time and to, to really kind of go and, and think
• 1:33:41
  about the things that you did and, and I, and you wrote a
• 1:33:44
  book. So I kind of take it took away
• 1:33:47
  some of the time that you were there because you could really
• 1:33:49
  figure out how you want to attack this and how you want to
• 1:33:52
  present your story behind the paper.
• 1:33:55
  And, you know, it's interesting. And is your mom still here with
• 1:34:00
  us? Yes, she is.
• 1:34:02
  And how is your mom doing? She's doing good, you know, my
• 1:34:06
  dad and her are still, you know, doing well in Seattle City, New
• 1:34:09
  Jersey. And, you know, I go back there,
• 1:34:12
  you know, once in the summer just to, you know, say hi and
• 1:34:16
  spend some some time there. How did your father handle this?
• 1:34:19
  Because your father very well respected around the college
• 1:34:22
  ranks as a referee and it really helped you start your career.
• 1:34:26
  How did he handle this, this scandal and how it was pinned on
• 1:34:29
  you the way it was? Did he handle it the way a
• 1:34:33
  father would, or did he kind of take a step back and didn't say
• 1:34:36
  anything? You know, kind of handled it
• 1:34:38
  like a father would. Definitely supportive, you know,
• 1:34:41
  thankfully, you know, even though that it was embarrassing
• 1:34:44
  with, you know, what I had done and and how I had done it.
• 1:34:47
  So, you know, I was fortunate enough that, you know my parents
• 1:34:51
  stood by me and helped me out. Great deal.
• 1:34:53
  Yeah, well, before we let you go.
• 1:34:54
  All right, So let's pretend that you are the judge with Terry
• 1:35:00
  Rozier, Chauncey Billups and Mr. Jones.
• 1:35:05
  OK? You're standing there and and
• 1:35:08
  you're you're making a decision on how you're going to handle
• 1:35:11
  it. I don't know if there's going to
• 1:35:12
  be a jury involved with it, but if it was just you making a
• 1:35:14
  decision, what would you give Chauncey Billups first?
• 1:35:19
  If if all these allegations are. Are true, Are true.
• 1:35:22
  What would you give him? I would say he's probably going
• 1:35:25
  to do, you know, two to four years.
• 1:35:28
  So that's you being nice, right? Is that, is that what it is?
• 1:35:30
  Right. Yeah.
• 1:35:30
  OK. I'm just, I'm just starting
• 1:35:33
  nipping on the butt here. I this, I know nobody's asked
• 1:35:35
  you this question, but that's what makes our show interesting.
• 1:35:38
  I I want to pretend that you are the law and you're making the
• 1:35:41
  decisions. All right.
• 1:35:43
  Terry Rozier. I think, you know, that's fixing
• 1:35:46
  a game, fixing a bet. I think he's probably going to
• 1:35:48
  do the most time. I, I would think, I think the
• 1:35:51
  Boston College scandal guys did five to seven.
• 1:35:54
  I'd say, you know, probably 5:00 to 7:00.
• 1:35:57
  Now, a lot of rides leaders have been all over on this.
• 1:36:01
  They're saying Jones was involved with every single one
• 1:36:04
  of these scandals. What would you give Jones if you
• 1:36:08
  were the judge of this situation?
• 1:36:11
  I always liked him, he was always good to me.
• 1:36:13
  He was a good guy, so maybe I'll just give him a little
• 1:36:15
  probation. Tim, This is why I like you,
• 1:36:22
  man. I you kept a straight face until
• 1:36:24
  that smirk came out. I you kept it straight the whole
• 1:36:28
  time. You I, I was trying to get
• 1:36:30
  something out of you and you were like the same old stuff and
• 1:36:35
  then bam, I got you. And then David Stern.
• 1:36:38
  I would love to see you box. What do you what do you knock
• 1:36:40
  him out in the first to second round?
• 1:36:42
  I I think. 30 seconds. Right hook, right.
• 1:36:48
  Lefty. That's right, you're a lefty.
• 1:36:50
  So left hook, you know, you throw a couple of jabs, set them
• 1:36:53
  up and knock them out. Out like a light.
• 1:36:57
  But maybe we'll make a book together.
• 1:36:59
  Together. We'll call it Jabba in the mouth
• 1:37:01
  Out Like a Light by Tim Donaghy. Tim, we love you man.
• 1:37:09
  And listen, I know you've been all over the place and I know
• 1:37:12
  you've been jumping from different shows.
• 1:37:14
  The fact that you came on our show says a lot about who you
• 1:37:18
  are. And we are one of the up and
• 1:37:21
  coming big shows in the states of the world.
• 1:37:25
  And we're ranked in the two hundreds and Spotify and Apple
• 1:37:28
  and we're just growing all over the place.
• 1:37:30
  And we just love the fact that you came on and gave us your
• 1:37:34
  takes and and didn't hold back on anything that you said.
• 1:37:36
  And that makes you who you are. And I think that's why I think
• 1:37:40
  that the NBA should have given you a little bit more lenience
• 1:37:46
  on some of the stuff that they claimed you did, especially when
• 1:37:49
  you wanted to take a, you wanted to get out of it and you were
• 1:37:53
  thrown to the wolves by the FBI and the NBI.
• 1:37:56
  Think it was wrong for David Stern, even though I think he
• 1:37:59
  was the only guy that helped the NBA grow in the time that they
• 1:38:03
  needed to grow, but also did things that I think was pushed
• 1:38:06
  under the rug and shoved down the rug in the wrong way.
• 1:38:08
  So I appreciate you, man. Thank you for joining us.
• 1:38:11
  I appreciate you having me. I look forward to if you read
• 1:38:14
  the book, we'll talk about it again.
• 1:38:15
  Let's do it. I'm serious.
• 1:38:16
  I want to, I want to talk to you.
• 1:38:18
  Tim Tonigy, So he's been fantastic.
• 1:38:22
  It was a great interview and, and let me tell you something,
• 1:38:25
  he would knock out David Stern. I, I like it.
• 1:38:29
  I like it. You see that guys, I got out of
• 1:38:31
  him that and, and I, I kind of put him in a position where he
• 1:38:35
  was the judge and, and the jury and, and he made his decision.
• 1:38:38
  I'm very surprised. He, he said that he's a good
• 1:38:41
  friend of Jones. So I I guess that made a lot of
• 1:38:43
  sense. He would just give him
• 1:38:45
  probation. Yeah, he was quick to correct
• 1:38:49
  you on that 15. Years.
• 1:38:50
  I like to listen. I was I I made a mistake.
• 1:38:54
  I cleaned it up all right. It's not.
• 1:38:56
  All he only served. He only served 11 with good time
• 1:38:59
  though. Yeah, and you want to know
• 1:39:01
  something? He's such a straight, straight
• 1:39:02
  shooter. You.
• 1:39:03
  He kept a straight face the whole interview, the whole
• 1:39:06
  interview, until I got out of him a smile.
• 1:39:09
  Did you guys see that? There's probably certain stuff
• 1:39:11
  he can't say anyways. No, I know and I I wanted to
• 1:39:14
  hold back. I was going to attack him and
• 1:39:16
  maybe other ways, but I, I think I, I attacked it the way I
• 1:39:20
  wanted to attack it and, and, and really add my humor to it at
• 1:39:24
  the end. So it was perfect.
• 1:39:26
  It was a perfect interview. I loved it.
• 1:39:28
  So I got to give myself a golf clap, a golf clap.
• 1:39:30
  Thank you. Golf clap.
• 1:39:31
  Golf clap. It was good.
• 1:39:33
  You're not giving me a Golf Club.
• 1:39:34
  Give me the finger. Thank you.
• 1:39:36
  Fingers. There it is.
• 1:39:38
  I'm eating a rat now, ladies and gentlemen.
• 1:39:40
  Yeah. Let's go.
• 1:39:41
  Save your tears. Mom, what's one thing that you
• 1:39:45
  can't talk to me about? My sexual fantasies.
• 1:39:50
  Say yourself. It is not ideal, but if it's
• 1:39:52
  what means it is not ideal, but if it is not ideal, but if it is
• 1:39:55
  what means, you can't trouble. Double stamp you can't.
• 1:39:59
  Dribble stamp double stamp Lord, you can't dribble stamp double.
• 1:40:01
  Stamp. But but.
• 1:40:03
  You. Guys, now it's time for save
• 1:40:07
  your tear. Oh.
• 1:40:10
  Yeah, ladies and gentlemen, we are back and Speedy seems to win
• 1:40:14
  every single week. It's been back-to-back weeks.
• 1:40:18
  I am going to take it over this week.
• 1:40:22
  I'm concentrating. I'm winning.
• 1:40:26
  Maybe you will, maybe you won't. I will.
• 1:40:28
  You are a great FedEx Cup standings player, Speedy.
• 1:40:32
  One of these days we need these standings.
• 1:40:34
  But you are the defending champ, Speedy.
• 1:40:35
  You'll tell us who's going to go in what order.
• 1:40:37
  Tonight on Savior Tears, everybody's favorite tier based
• 1:40:42
  fantasy contest. You get $15.
• 1:40:45
  We're using Yahoo fantasy PPR scoring the winner gets long
• 1:40:51
  winded. 51% genuine compliments from all the losers.
• 1:40:55
  That one over like a farting church.
• 1:40:58
  Episode. Are you boys ready to save your
• 1:41:02
  team? All right, I picked three games.
• 1:41:07
  I mean I wrote it down somewhere.
• 1:41:09
  Let's see where it is. The three games for this one are
• 1:41:11
  the Giants and the Bears, the Jaguars and the Texans and the
• 1:41:15
  Seahawks and the Cardinals. So here we go.
• 1:41:19
  Let's take a look at the board and I'm going to read it off for
• 1:41:22
  everybody just listening but again, if you're just listening,
• 1:41:25
  you can watch us in video on YouTube on all the streamings
• 1:41:29
  that you can stop subscribe to us on everything social media.
• 1:41:33
  Make sure that you also download us in video also available on
• 1:41:36
  Spotify. I always gave up and apple.
• 1:41:39
  All right, $5 player. Got to be Sam Darnold from the
• 1:41:43
  Seahawks, followed by Caleb Williams, Trevor Lawrence,
• 1:41:46
  Jackson Dart and Jacoby Brissett for a dollar.
• 1:41:50
  Now that I'm not sure about CJ Stroud for this week, and it
• 1:41:54
  looks like Kyler Murray is on the IR, so Berset gets in there
• 1:41:58
  at running back Travis at the end, Junior will be the $5
• 1:42:02
  player, followed by Kenneth Walker the third.
• 1:42:04
  We're going to go with Kyle and Manangai for $3.
• 1:42:07
  Can we bring out the guy in junior?
• 1:42:08
  Can we can we bring Sebastian in?
• 1:42:10
  I think, I think Sebastian should come and.
• 1:42:12
  Join. Well, why not?
• 1:42:13
  Well, you know, why not? Let's get him in.
• 1:42:18
  It's up to him. It's completely up to him.
• 1:42:20
  No pressure. Sebastian Day, Errol.
• 1:42:22
  I know. Literally his first.
• 1:42:23
  Day, if he wants to. It's up to him if he wants to
• 1:42:26
  play the game. I mean, he can win the game.
• 1:42:29
  It's not impossible. There is a way to win.
• 1:42:33
  Triple H once said it's all about the game and how you play
• 1:42:36
  it. So the two dollar player is
• 1:42:38
  Tyrone Tracy junior, followed by Chubb for a buck.
• 1:42:42
  Then we have a wide receiver, one the best receiver in the NFL
• 1:42:47
  this year, Jackson Smith in Jigba, followed by Brian Thomas
• 1:42:51
  junior, Marvin Harrison, junior, Juan Dale Robinson for $2.00 and
• 1:42:57
  Jacoby Myers for a dollar. Just the other receiver slot is
• 1:43:01
  going to go to Nico Collins, filed by, followed by Roma
• 1:43:04
  Dunsay, who was God awful last week with no points but he's
• 1:43:09
  still been great all year, followed by DJ Moore, his
• 1:43:11
  teammate Jaden Higgins and Giants misery.
• 1:43:16
  Darius Sladen for a dollar and a tight end.
• 1:43:18
  No surprise trade McBride, Colston, Loveland, the Bears
• 1:43:21
  hero from last week for $4.00. Theo Johnson, Dalton Schultz and
• 1:43:26
  it's strange for a buck at tight end.
• 1:43:30
  Can't wait. Speedy, who's going first?
• 1:43:32
  Well, I'm not going to make you go first this week, Fish.
• 1:43:34
  So that means we have to make him go first.
• 1:43:37
  Nick. OK.
• 1:43:41
  All right. So I'm going to go Jackson.
• 1:43:43
  Yeah, I'm going to go Jackson. Dart, I'm going to go Kenneth
• 1:43:47
  Walker, I'm going to go. So that's 6.
• 1:43:58
  I'm going to do. This is tough.
• 1:44:01
  You know, I'm, I'm going to do DSN, Jaden Higgins.
• 1:44:15
  All right, that. Means you have 6/11/13.
• 1:44:19
  So you got $2.00 left for Schultz?
• 1:44:21
  Yeah, Schultz. Or Brenton Strange.
• 1:44:23
  I know you like to save money. You're very thrifty in this
• 1:44:25
  game, Nathan. Nathan does love his former
• 1:44:27
  Cowboys, though. Yeah, I'm going to do Dalton
• 1:44:32
  Schultz. All right.
• 1:44:33
  And Schultz? So I have you down for Dark
• 1:44:36
  Walker, JSN, Higgins and Schultz.
• 1:44:40
  Speedy, who's next? Let's go, Jarrett all.
• 1:44:44
  Right. All right, let me click because
• 1:44:48
  I wasn't here on Monday giving my compliments to to speedy
• 1:44:50
  speed. I truly believe you're the
• 1:44:52
  unsung hero of the show. You do so much great work behind
• 1:44:56
  the scenes. You help me out tremendously
• 1:44:58
  every single week and every single day getting clips up for
• 1:45:01
  Instagram and Stutch, you're obviously now the betting
• 1:45:04
  favorite every week. I think now for save your tears.
• 1:45:07
  Oh. Man are we betting on.
• 1:45:11
  Savior Julie, thank you for all you do here so.
• 1:45:14
  Do we have to ask? All right, Jack.
• 1:45:15
  Parlay guys. We get really degenerate about
• 1:45:17
  it. Absolutely.
• 1:45:22
  I'm going to do Jackson Dart, Kyle Menong guy, because I don't
• 1:45:27
  really know who he was. That was going to be great.
• 1:45:30
  JSN Jayden Higgins and Theo Johnson.
• 1:45:35
  All right, so I got you for Manangai Dart, JSN Higgins and
• 1:45:42
  Theo Johnson. We get Sebastian back in here
• 1:45:47
  it. Looks like he's coming in but I
• 1:45:49
  don't see his camera yet so I'm not fully in all.
• 1:45:52
  Right, so there he is. All right, let's put him.
• 1:45:54
  Let's put him on if you're ready.
• 1:45:57
  All right, Sebastian, welcome. No, no pressure.
• 1:46:00
  First episode ever. Welcome our new intern.
• 1:46:04
  Sebastian, you got $15. All right.
• 1:46:08
  So I kind of missed the beginning of this because I was
• 1:46:11
  trying to get in and out. But do I?
• 1:46:14
  Is anybody eliminated? I can just pick.
• 1:46:16
  Any no, you pick whoever you want.
• 1:46:17
  You got $15.00 to spend though. You can't go over cap and you
• 1:46:21
  have to pick from the the column it's in for the receiver.
• 1:46:26
  Definitely, definitely. I'm going to take JSN with the
• 1:46:29
  $5. Yeah, that's, that's that's a
• 1:46:31
  must. And then for my wide receiver 2,
• 1:46:37
  I'm going to go with DJ Moore. So give me at 8:00.
• 1:46:43
  So give me 7 left to spend. I'm going to go with Jackson
• 1:46:49
  Dart at quarterback and then I'm going to go Chubb and Strange.
• 1:46:58
  I think think that should be 15. Strange.
• 1:47:02
  Chubb All right, so I got you for Dart, Chubb, JSN more and
• 1:47:08
  strange. Yes.
• 1:47:11
  All right, right. And I can't fit Sebastian in
• 1:47:13
  there, so we're going to go with C bass on.
• 1:47:16
  Or put Seb. Put Seb.
• 1:47:18
  Seb. Even better, yeah.
• 1:47:19
  Yes. You want an extra B or just 1B.
• 1:47:23
  Not just one B, just 1B. All right for MFIT.
• 1:47:25
  What school you go to? I actually graduated from FIU
• 1:47:30
  last year, at the end of the year last year.
• 1:47:33
  But yeah, yeah. So I graduated, I got my my four
• 1:47:36
  years. You still in Florida?
• 1:47:38
  Yeah, yeah, I'm still in Florida right now.
• 1:47:40
  I'm just covering FIU, like their sports.
• 1:47:42
  They have a basketball that just started recently.
• 1:47:44
  They came on Monday, they started a home opener.
• 1:47:46
  So I was there recording, getting some coverage and stuff
• 1:47:49
  like that. So that's what I've been up to
• 1:47:51
  since post graduation. I love Florida.
• 1:47:55
  It's maybe you're going to be a savior, tears champ right off
• 1:47:58
  the bat. We'll find out.
• 1:47:59
  Let's see, let's see. All right, Speedy, who's next?
• 1:48:02
  I'll go next, actually. I'll take Caleb Williams.
• 1:48:04
  I'll take Tracy. Give me Myers, give me DJ Moore
• 1:48:09
  and Trey McBride. Myers, Moore and McBride, So
• 1:48:16
  hard to keep up with you, Speedy.
• 1:48:18
  You're just like like grease, lightning, Caleb Tracy, Myers,
• 1:48:22
  Moore, McBride. All right, Speedy, I guess I'll
• 1:48:27
  just go next. I'm going to go with Sammy D
• 1:48:32
  right here. Mr. Darnold.
• 1:48:36
  No one else has done it. He's deserves it at running
• 1:48:40
  back. I don't know.
• 1:48:44
  Is Swift going to play? I don't know.
• 1:48:47
  But if they doesn't, I like Manangai a lot.
• 1:48:50
  I think that guy might be better than Swift already.
• 1:48:53
  I think it's only a matter of time.
• 1:48:54
  Maybe it's this week. What better time than now?
• 1:48:58
  I got to go cheap. I know the Giants don't really
• 1:49:01
  have anyone to throw to except for Wandale Robinson.
• 1:49:04
  So we're going with Wandale. So that's what, 10-9?
• 1:49:09
  That's 10. Oh, no, 10 you're.
• 1:49:11
  Right. Yeah, it's 10, so I got 5 left.
• 1:49:18
  Definitely not taking Darius Sladen.
• 1:49:21
  I don't want to have to deal with him.
• 1:49:24
  He's so bad, So bad. DJ Moore has been pretty good in
• 1:49:31
  recent weeks. Think we're going to go that
• 1:49:34
  route. Let's go more in Schultz for my
• 1:49:38
  last five bucks, so I got Darnold, Manangai, Wandale
• 1:49:42
  Robinson, DJ Moore, and Dalton Schultz.
• 1:49:47
  Who do you want to go next job or Errol?
• 1:49:50
  Errol. All right, Errol, you're up.
• 1:49:56
  I'm going to go Williams. I'm going to go chop JSN.
• 1:50:05
  How much is that 10? That's 10.
• 1:50:08
  I'm going to go Moore and Schultz.
• 1:50:14
  All. Right, so I got Caleb Chubb, JSN
• 1:50:18
  Moore and Schultz for Errol. Last but not least, Chubba
• 1:50:23
  Chamberlain. I'm going to go Sunshine, I'm
• 1:50:26
  going to Trevor Lawrence, then I'm going to go.
• 1:50:30
  Sunshine. Love it.
• 1:50:32
  And then I'm gonna go Tracy JSN then I'm going to go let's go a
• 1:50:45
  Dunze and. Strange.
• 1:50:51
  All right, so I got Trevor, Tracy, JSN Rome and Strange
• 1:50:59
  share the window real quick. So you could see the whole board
• 1:51:03
  that we will uncover and reveal on next episode where we will
• 1:51:09
  have give out the winner will get their compliments in the
• 1:51:11
  compliment. I'm the only one to take Trevor
• 1:51:13
  Lawrence, yes. Only one that took Trevor.
• 1:51:16
  I was the only one took Darn Old.
• 1:51:17
  A lot of Jackson Dart out there, couple of Caleb's.
• 1:51:21
  We got a couple of Madame guys, a couple of Chubs and Tracy's
• 1:51:25
  out there. A lot of JSN takers.
• 1:51:27
  In fact, only me and Speedy didn't go with JSN.
• 1:51:30
  A lot of DJ Moore out there and Higgins.
• 1:51:33
  Everyone's into Schultz and people want some Strange here.
• 1:51:38
  No, I think speedy. I've got 2-2 that nobody else
• 1:51:41
  picked, Trevor and Rome. Yeah.
• 1:51:44
  Well. Did you get a chubby on that?
• 1:51:47
  No chubby, but every time I pick somebody that doesn't win, they
• 1:51:50
  score like almost negative points.
• 1:51:53
  But you know what happens, Shabba, when it doesn't go your
• 1:51:55
  way. In this game, you can't do
• 1:51:57
  nothing about it. You got to save your tears.
• 1:51:59
  Diarrhea down their leg and. All right, ladies and gentlemen,
• 1:52:03
  we have Fishes Play of the Week. This is great about sports you
• 1:52:07
  play to. Win the game.
• 1:52:09
  Hello, you play to win the game. Fishes play of the wig.
• 1:52:16
  And of course, I was late with the graphic on this one because
• 1:52:19
  I was talking smack. And here it is, guys, fishes,
• 1:52:22
  play of the week. And there's only one play that
• 1:52:26
  jumped to the mind that I saw over the week that, I mean, I
• 1:52:31
  was watching this whole game. We talked about it.
• 1:52:34
  The Bears. The Bears have done some things
• 1:52:38
  with Ben Johnson that they have not done in many, many years.
• 1:52:41
  And trick plays are among them. Let's take a look at this one
• 1:52:46
  right here. Welcome you.
• 1:52:47
  We don't need to listen to it, but this formation, let's just
• 1:52:50
  start off with this. This is an odd formation.
• 1:52:54
  The offensive line looks like they're in a goal line double
• 1:52:56
  tight end wing like you would see in Madden 93 trying to run
• 1:53:01
  it, except there's only Caleb in the backfield.
• 1:53:04
  He's got 2 flankers, 1's in tight like sort of in a slot,
• 1:53:09
  and the other one's in kind of I would say 5 yard less than 5
• 1:53:12
  yards away from that wing. This is an empty goal line
• 1:53:17
  formation. I don't think I've ever seen
• 1:53:19
  this. And what Caleb does is he
• 1:53:21
  basically runs quarterback 9 or right quarterback sweep, but
• 1:53:25
  it's a double reverse pass. Take a look at this beautiful
• 1:53:30
  play. He starts off running like he's
• 1:53:32
  running quarterback sweep. Everyone's frozen to the front
• 1:53:35
  side of the defense, Gives it to Roma Dunsay.
• 1:53:38
  He's acting. Oh, this is Caleb being an
• 1:53:40
  actor. He was at USC, took some
• 1:53:42
  classes. I'm not doing anything.
• 1:53:45
  The only guy who can cover him then runs away and now Caleb is
• 1:53:49
  wide open. You got to do the Chris Berman
• 1:53:52
  whoop, whoop. Whoop, whoop, whoop.
• 1:53:55
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:53:56
  Something stumbling, bumbling, tumbling, rumbling into the end
• 1:53:59
  zone. Beautiful play.
• 1:54:01
  Really cool formation. Very interesting quarterback
• 1:54:04
  action on double reverse pass. That's why this one is vicious
• 1:54:08
  Play of the week. Oh, panties dropper himself,
• 1:54:12
  Speedy Petey. Right you have penny dropper
• 1:54:15
  speed. Where did you get that from?
• 1:54:17
  This makes my pecker. Hard well make Jabba's pecker
• 1:54:19
  hard. I don't know about anybody else
• 1:54:20
  that was Tarek Scubal. No, that was Jabba.
• 1:54:23
  Jabba said it makes his pecker because of Tarek Scubal.
• 1:54:26
  No, but you just I just said you're you panty dropper and and
• 1:54:28
  Jabba just got hard off of it. I was doubtful, No, he just said
• 1:54:33
  he got hard off of it are. You, Sir.
• 1:54:36
  You just made my nipples. You just made his nipples hard
• 1:54:38
  again. I don't know what's what's going
• 1:54:39
  on with you tonight, man. I mean, you're a panty dropper.
• 1:54:43
  Now, listen, Speedy, we're we're in between certain people that
• 1:54:46
  you can pick, all right, Jessica Alber or Pamela Anderson.
• 1:54:51
  I'll take the chance on whoever Jessica Alber is.
• 1:54:55
  Jessica Alber. Who is that?
• 1:54:58
  Alber Alba is like Bill Bill Burr's cousin Alba.
• 1:55:03
  Yeah, second cousin. It's Alba.
• 1:55:05
  Jessica Alba it's. The fourth cousin once removed,
• 1:55:08
  obviously. You, you does.
• 1:55:10
  Does Jessica Albers, does she fly into Laguardier?
• 1:55:14
  You know. Gordier.
• 1:55:15
  Listen. It's Laguardier and that's how
• 1:55:18
  we speak it and and that's how we know it.
• 1:55:21
  I have to take a shit. As you take a shit and Speedy
• 1:55:24
  likes to play with himself and that's why he's a penny.
• 1:55:27
  Carl likes to play with himself. Well, that's true too.
• 1:55:29
  I got to find that take. I've lost that one.
• 1:55:31
  I I haven't used that one in a while.
• 1:55:33
  Hold on, hold on, hold on. Here it is.
• 1:55:35
  Carl plays with himself. That's true and.
• 1:55:38
  Droba is not an athlete. And here we droba there.
• 1:55:41
  We go. Here we go.
• 1:55:42
  Droba. Speaking not an athlete nothing
• 1:55:47
  dude can we get can we please like do something with your
• 1:55:51
  wall? Like I'm tired of seeing just
• 1:55:52
  bare ass walls. Well, you.
• 1:55:56
  Know serial killer style 100% he's hiding.
• 1:55:59
  People in a deep freeze. Now listen, I'm surprised Niffin
• 1:56:02
  is hot, ladies. He's a single man and he.
• 1:56:05
  Doesn't, and that has. That's not an excuse.
• 1:56:08
  He's a single man and he likes Gray walls.
• 1:56:11
  That's that's where he goes. You know, he gets Gray and he
• 1:56:15
  wants to sit in front of one of them.
• 1:56:16
  You know who else like Gray walls, Dexter?
• 1:56:21
  Lots of. And you know who liked Yellow
• 1:56:23
  walls? Jeffrey Dahmer.
• 1:56:29
  Yeah, exactly. That's where we're going.
• 1:56:31
  With this, well, I know where you're going and that's why
• 1:56:33
  suck. My indo can.
• 1:56:34
  Suck his Indo, that's what you should do anyways.
• 1:56:38
  Speedy's a panty dropper and somebody's getting hard.
• 1:56:42
  I mean, somebody got a chubby tonight after that, save your
• 1:56:45
  tears. And I think his name is Jabba
• 1:56:47
  Chamberlain. Maybe that's why he lost all his
• 1:56:49
  hair. I don't know.
• 1:56:50
  Ladies and gentlemen, I'm a little lost tonight and we
• 1:56:53
  don't. We definitely know this guy.
• 1:56:54
  Is fish is not a panty. Dropper A panty dropper, as we
• 1:56:57
  all know. Anyways.
• 1:56:59
  Yeah, Speedy's 6 pack of the week.
• 1:57:03
  Let's have a sixer. Hey, who wants to play Drink the
• 1:57:06
  Beer? It's time for the Speedy 6 pack
• 1:57:09
  of The Way Doo. Doo shut.
• 1:57:11
  My indo poops gets no coots. All right, so you got to talk
• 1:57:21
  into the mic. You got to use the mic you got
• 1:57:25
  to speak into the mic like talk into the mic like put the mic in
• 1:57:30
  your mouth. You know what I'm saying there
• 1:57:33
  We. Go easy.
• 1:57:34
  There we go. All right, so you're not talking
• 1:57:37
  into the mic. Bring the mic to your mouth.
• 1:57:39
  Johnny Reno is Bring it up. Bring it up.
• 1:57:42
  Bring the mic. Bring the mic up, bring it up,
• 1:57:44
  pull it up there. You go.
• 1:57:45
  We can't even. Speedy Speedy's got like Forest
• 1:57:48
  Green on in his shirt and he's disappearing into the back.
• 1:57:52
  It figures that's what happens when your nickname is Speeder.
• 1:57:57
  All right, so we got. Speedy, go shirtless.
• 1:58:00
  Oh God, nobody will want. Do you?
• 1:58:02
  Do you really want? Him a jersey.
• 1:58:04
  Without. Get him a jersey to put on.
• 1:58:06
  I don't. Want him?
• 1:58:07
  I bet Speedy's that Speedy's got great chest hair.
• 1:58:09
  No, I don't. You got like an old refrigerator
• 1:58:12
  parry jersey for him or something, That'd be great.
• 1:58:16
  No, I don't have that. And Speedy smells like
• 1:58:19
  mothballs, like his grandmother's house.
• 1:58:22
  So no, not going to do that. You want my cream pie?
• 1:58:25
  No. I don't want your cream pie.
• 1:58:27
  All right, are we ready? All right, let's go to the
• 1:58:29
  battle of the two purple teams. To start, the Ravens are at the
• 1:58:32
  Vikings. The over under is or the Ravens
• 1:58:35
  are up a 4 1/2 point spread, so W should be coming in a bit.
• 1:58:38
  So we'll go with me first and then we'll go with Johnny, we'll
• 1:58:41
  go with Fish, we'll go to the Coin of Java, and then we'll go
• 1:58:44
  with Errol after that. So I'm actually going to take
• 1:58:46
  the Vikings. In this I need a blow pop I.
• 1:58:48
  Like this matchup, even if they don't win the game to cover the
• 1:58:50
  spread, Ravens secondary's been a tough time.
• 1:58:53
  Minnesota's got a good passing game, so I'm going to go with
• 1:58:55
  the Vikings to cover the spread. Who do you have winning?
• 1:58:58
  I think the Ravens win the game. I think the Vikings cover the.
• 1:59:00
  Spread. I'm going to go Vikings and this
• 1:59:02
  plus the points. I just not sold on how good the
• 1:59:06
  Ravens are this year. Still kind of question marks
• 1:59:09
  with Lamar Jackson. They had a good game.
• 1:59:11
  Whoopi do I kind of think of the Vikings are the better team all
• 1:59:15
  around better form, I'll take them.
• 1:59:16
  Plus the points at home, good defense, probably that spread.
• 1:59:23
  I'm taking Vikings, no doubt. I think this Vikings team might
• 1:59:26
  be for real. I think they're really well
• 1:59:28
  coached and I think JJ McCarthy's back and I think
• 1:59:31
  they're a very different team than the Carson Wentz LED
• 1:59:34
  version of them. Give me the Vikings.
• 1:59:38
  Is it my turn? No, we got the coin.
• 1:59:42
  The Java Digi coin. Heads all right, Java's on the
• 1:59:46
  Vikings. Too Can you customize the coin
• 1:59:49
  So like you're on the coin? I I, I think so I can probably
• 1:59:53
  try it. I I need to just I cashed in all
• 1:59:56
  my change, so I ain't got no real.
• 1:59:58
  Quote UPS and. And first of all, before I make
• 2:00:01
  my pick, Nathan, you you post up pictures of people on.
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  On our, you know, our feed and and this blonde chick and you
• 2:00:09
  say this looks really good. Who the hell is that?
• 2:00:12
  I mean, where are we at here? I mean, seriously.
• 2:00:14
  It's a good friend of his. Yeah, I'm sure in many different
• 2:00:17
  ways, if you know what I mean. Anyways, I'm going Baltimore.
• 2:00:22
  I think the game will be closed, so I guess I'm picking the
• 2:00:25
  Vikings to cover. All right, we'll go to the Tom
• 2:00:28
  Brady Bowl, the New England Patriots at the Tampa Bay
• 2:00:30
  Buccaneers. Bucks are 2 1/2 point favorites
• 2:00:32
  at home. I'm going to take Tampa in the
• 2:00:34
  spot. Like Errol's mentioned, the
• 2:00:35
  Patriots have really strived off a weak schedule.
• 2:00:37
  I think they're due to lose at some point.
• 2:00:38
  Tampa gets healthy. Give me that.
• 2:00:39
  By the way, I want to say something to Mikey C, who's
• 2:00:41
  posting up crap thinking that they they want something.
• 2:00:45
  Mike who? Who is the Patriots beaten?
• 2:00:49
  Tell me who they've beaten before you come out and post
• 2:00:52
  things saying, oh, the Drake May effect.
• 2:00:55
  There is no effect. It's stupidity when Drake may
• 2:00:58
  actually beats good teams. You can come and see me.
• 2:01:01
  Until then, zip of the lip, buddy.
• 2:01:04
  You're 50%. What did he say?
• 2:01:05
  He's 90% always right. He's 90% not wearing underwear.
• 2:01:09
  Let's go. Here we go.
• 2:01:11
  Me the Buccaneers here question on how healthy they are.
• 2:01:14
  Bucky Irving stood in practice today.
• 2:01:16
  He's on my fantasy team, by the way, but I'm questioning how
• 2:01:19
  healthy they are. But I do think the Patriots have
• 2:01:22
  benefited from a week's schedule.
• 2:01:23
  Give me the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to win this game by at least a
• 2:01:26
  field goal. I really do like this offense.
• 2:01:28
  I really like Baker Mayfield. I'll take the Buccaneers.
• 2:01:31
  Is Bucky Irvy playing in this game?
• 2:01:34
  He has not been at practice this week.
• 2:01:36
  They said that they're going tomorrow.
• 2:01:39
  They said either Thursday or Friday they're going to get him
• 2:01:41
  on the practice field to see if he could be up for the
• 2:01:45
  challenge. If not this week, it'll be next
• 2:01:48
  week. But as of right now, they're
• 2:01:49
  going to wait until either Thursday, tomorrow or Friday to
• 2:01:52
  get him on the field to see if he can run.
• 2:01:54
  So kind of answering it for me boys, that team has one big flaw
• 2:01:58
  and it's they don't have their running back because their
• 2:02:00
  backups, Rashad White is not a start in running back in this
• 2:02:03
  league. They cannot run the ball right
• 2:02:06
  now and their receivers are mostly hurt.
• 2:02:08
  So I I just don't see them really moving the ball against
• 2:02:11
  the patriots. I'm going with the patriots, but
• 2:02:13
  if they have their guys, I I think they're a better team.
• 2:02:15
  But right now, give me the Patriots.
• 2:02:20
  And bam, we got tails all. Right Java on the Patriots as
• 2:02:27
  well. I'm going with the Buckeys.
• 2:02:32
  I think the Buccaneers will win this game.
• 2:02:33
  I think Baker will put his team on his shoulder and I think the
• 2:02:36
  Buccaneers defense, people forget this is one of the best
• 2:02:39
  defenses in the NFLI. Like the Bucks.
• 2:02:42
  Give me the Bucks. Buckies are winning.
• 2:02:45
  All right. One game that was used in savior
• 2:02:47
  tears the Cardinals at the Seahawks.
• 2:02:49
  The Seahawks are 6 1/2 point favorites.
• 2:02:51
  I know Johnny and you. Both you and also Wes have
• 2:02:54
  mentioned in the past that's a lot for a division game.
• 2:02:56
  I'm going to take Arizona to cover the spread.
• 2:02:57
  I think Seattle wins the game, but the Cardinals defense
• 2:02:59
  especially gets the pass, has been very good with this young
• 2:03:02
  secondary, so I think they'll keep it close.
• 2:03:04
  Seattle wins, but Arizona covers.
• 2:03:06
  I'm actually going to take the reverse of that.
• 2:03:08
  I think the the Cardinals look really, really good against the
• 2:03:12
  Cowboys. I will say that they were
• 2:03:14
  getting chunk 8 to 12 yards of play guaranteed.
• 2:03:17
  This is not the Cowboys. And then they're going to
• 2:03:20
  struggle offensively. Jacoby Brissett is Jacoby
• 2:03:22
  Brissett. He's a reliable back and
• 2:03:24
  quarterback. He will get you some wins.
• 2:03:26
  He manages the game. I don't think he has enough.
• 2:03:28
  They Marvin Harrison finally had a good game.
• 2:03:30
  I think they're kind of limited to trade McBride and Jacoby
• 2:03:33
  Brissett. If you kind of shut them down, I
• 2:03:35
  don't think they're going to the ball that well against the
• 2:03:37
  Seahawks. Give me the Seahawks.
• 2:03:39
  I rarely lay this many points, but less than a touchdown, I'll
• 2:03:43
  take Seattle. Yeah, I'm all in on Seattle
• 2:03:46
  right now. I think it's a blowout.
• 2:03:48
  Give me Seattle. Oh I like it and the coin says
• 2:03:57
  boom shaka like tail. I got the Seahawks winning.
• 2:04:02
  I think the Cardinals will be in the game, but I have the
• 2:04:04
  Seahawks. I will go to the other NFC West
• 2:04:06
  matchup with the Rams and the 49ers.
• 2:04:10
  The the Rams are 2 1/2 point favorites or Rams are 4 1/2
• 2:04:14
  point favorites. My bad on on the road.
• 2:04:17
  I'm going to take them in this spot.
• 2:04:18
  The Niners have been lucky with injuries so far, but I don't
• 2:04:21
  know if it lasts to get the defense that good.
• 2:04:23
  So give me the Rams even though they're 4 1/2 point favorites.
• 2:04:25
  I'm. I'm going to take the home team
• 2:04:27
  in this game. Divisional matchup at home.
• 2:04:30
  You have an understand that really hasn't been healthy this
• 2:04:32
  year. They haven't looked great.
• 2:04:33
  They they really can't stay healthy outside of CMC.
• 2:04:35
  We've been really good a bright spot for them in this offense.
• 2:04:39
  I just like the points plus 4 1/2 at home.
• 2:04:42
  Divisional matchup, 325 game in the afternoon.
• 2:04:46
  I just think that they're going to think the five game of the
• 2:04:48
  week. I just think they got a lot of
• 2:04:50
  things on their side. They didn't play.
• 2:04:51
  There's still six and three. So good.
• 2:04:53
  This is a decent football team that really hasn't been at 100%
• 2:04:55
  held. So give me the Niners to keep
• 2:04:57
  this game close. They might win, but I'll take
• 2:05:00
  points in my back pocket. I'm going right now with this
• 2:05:04
  Rams team, this Rams team looking banging on all
• 2:05:08
  cylinders. That 49ers team is piercing it
• 2:05:11
  together. It's going to be close because
• 2:05:13
  Shanahan's going to keep it close.
• 2:05:15
  These guys know each other real well, but I think the Rams will
• 2:05:18
  pull away late. The Rams, the.
• 2:05:21
  Rams and we've got get home, get ahead.
• 2:05:26
  Job on the Niners. The Rammys are going to win this
• 2:05:31
  game. I can't stand the Niners and I
• 2:05:33
  can't stand their coach. Yes, Owen, if you're listening
• 2:05:38
  to the show, I've got the Rams and they get a kick that you
• 2:05:42
  know what, out of the 30 Niners? Eat it, Owen.
• 2:05:46
  Where's that dress and where's that wig?
• 2:05:48
  Where's the lipstick? I want to see that baby.
• 2:05:51
  All right, Speaking of somebody that wants to see lipstick, the
• 2:05:54
  Aaron Rodgers and his imaginary girlfriend traveled to LA to
• 2:05:57
  take. It's his hand or his hand
• 2:06:01
  usually like to call it. All right, they're taking on the
• 2:06:03
  Chargers in LA on Sunday Night Football.
• 2:06:05
  I'm going to take the Steelers in this one here.
• 2:06:07
  I think it's a good spot for them.
• 2:06:08
  Their defense looked a lot better last week with that pass
• 2:06:11
  rush. The Chargers losing Joe Alls.
• 2:06:13
  I think it's a tough matchup. The Chargers can't roll the ball
• 2:06:15
  either. I like the Steelers in the TO.
• 2:06:17
  Win the game. This game is one of those ugly
• 2:06:19
  games in prime time. I'm going to be on it some way
• 2:06:24
  for this pick em I'll take the Steelers plus the points.
• 2:06:28
  I you know the chargers offense is really predicated on their
• 2:06:31
  line that they don't have a line.
• 2:06:33
  They have struggled. They just lost one of their best
• 2:06:35
  lineman this week. So I do think they're going to
• 2:06:37
  struggle, but they did pick up somebody in this place for at
• 2:06:41
  least going forward. Give me the Steelers to cover,
• 2:06:45
  maybe win the game, but I think this is another game either way.
• 2:06:49
  I, I just don't think it's going to be a good football game.
• 2:06:54
  I think it's going to be just an ugly game.
• 2:06:57
  It's unfortunately a game that we're all going to be subjected
• 2:07:00
  to. I, I, I assume it's going to be
• 2:07:03
  like a field goal game. So what was the spread on this
• 2:07:07
  one? Chargers 2/3 and 1/2.
• 2:07:09
  I have 3 1/2. You want my creampie?
• 2:07:12
  To Chargers 3 and. 1/2 Some of my half Yeah, let's.
• 2:07:16
  See. Chargers are favored fight three
• 2:07:18
  and a. Half favored.
• 2:07:20
  All right. Well then give me.
• 2:07:21
  Steelers Points. Cuz I'd say is 5050 they win and
• 2:07:25
  I don't think they win. If they lose, they lose by more
• 2:07:27
  than. 3 Breaking news I'm putting you on a leash now.
• 2:07:33
  No leash for my coin and my coin is getting headed home.
• 2:07:36
  A lot of hot ladies daba. On the Chargers, give me the
• 2:07:42
  Chargers on the points. All right, we'll finish it off
• 2:07:45
  with Monday Night Football, the Philadelphia Eagles at the Green
• 2:07:48
  Bay Packers. The Packers are 2 1/2 point
• 2:07:50
  favorites at home. I actually like him in this spot
• 2:07:53
  though because they're awfully bad loss to the Panthers and
• 2:07:55
  Fish. You even mentioned it during the
• 2:07:56
  whip around like Jordan Love has these really bad games, but can
• 2:07:59
  have some amazing ones mixed in there.
• 2:08:01
  The Eagles new pieces on defense at this.
• 2:08:03
  They'll need some time to sort it out.
• 2:08:04
  I think the bye week hurts them. So give me the Packers here.
• 2:08:10
  I'm going to take the, the Packers at home.
• 2:08:12
  I, I, I'm not really sold on this Eagles team.
• 2:08:15
  They're definitely not as good as they were last year.
• 2:08:18
  I do think that the Packers can win this game all right, but
• 2:08:22
  they can definitely do it by the spread.
• 2:08:24
  I like their offense in this spot.
• 2:08:25
  It is Monday Night Football. I think the Eagles have
• 2:08:28
  benefited from kind of some fortunate circumstances in a few
• 2:08:31
  of their games. I think that doesn't happen in
• 2:08:33
  Green Bay. So give me the Packers to cover
• 2:08:35
  the spread of -2 1/2. Yeah, Eagles reloaded at the
• 2:08:41
  deadline. They are run.
• 2:08:43
  By the. Post.
• 2:08:44
  General. Manager, I am a legend.
• 2:08:46
  In all the football, I think they're going to come out of the
• 2:08:49
  out of the by firing on all cylinders.
• 2:08:51
  Give me the Eagles. As long as she's using dude
• 2:08:54
  wipes and taking care of my 2 hole I'm good.
• 2:08:58
  Still getting headed home boys. Still getting headed home.
• 2:09:02
  Another tow job. I mean she can use her feet if
• 2:09:06
  she wants. I've got the Packers.
• 2:09:08
  The Packers win. Jordan Love has a big day if you
• 2:09:13
  have them on your fairness team. 40 points, baby.
• 2:09:16
  Give me Jordan. Every time I start he stardom,
• 2:09:19
  he's terrible. Every time I bench him he has
• 2:09:21
  like 35 points. Yeah, that's Jordan Love.
• 2:09:24
  All right, listen, Jordan Love's gonna have a big day.
• 2:09:26
  I'm going. Jordan Love, baby.
• 2:09:28
  Jordan Love. Let's give him some love as we
• 2:09:31
  all. That went over like a fart in
• 2:09:33
  church. As we all know, there we go.
• 2:09:36
  All right, ladies and gentlemen, we call this Let's Parlay.
• 2:09:46
  Parlay. It's time for Let's parlay.
• 2:09:50
  Now, Johnny, I am wearing a Danny Dimes jersey.
• 2:09:55
  This is Danny Dimes. I'll show you.
• 2:09:58
  I want all the fans to check it out.
• 2:09:59
  Hold on. I'm going to turn around for
• 2:10:01
  everybody to check out this beautiful fitted made jersey.
• 2:10:06
  For all you fans out there, hold on.
• 2:10:08
  It's just too bad you became a fan after you left New York.
• 2:10:12
  I'm guess you were never. First of all, first of all, just
• 2:10:15
  so you know, I was always a Danny Dons fan, always.
• 2:10:20
  And I'm one of very few people that thought Danny Dimes was the
• 2:10:24
  real deal. And he is.
• 2:10:26
  So eat it, Reno, go back to San Antonio.
• 2:10:29
  I mean you are at San. Antonio So that's it.
• 2:10:34
  By the way, what webbing? Yama's kicking ass, so you have
• 2:10:37
  something to watch. He yeah, you know, he had, he
• 2:10:40
  had a bad game against his sons, but he is looking up.
• 2:10:42
  Great. Don't.
• 2:10:44
  Worry he'll get hurt like I predict.
• 2:10:45
  For for me, it's, it's his, his body, his body type is just
• 2:10:49
  like, I don't know, sustainability.
• 2:10:51
  So I'm kind of worried about that.
• 2:10:53
  But NBA season's like so new right now we're focused on the
• 2:10:56
  NFL and college football that's winding down.
• 2:10:58
  Just seemed like yesterday where we are on Week 10, going to
• 2:11:02
  start there. Actually for one of my first
• 2:11:04
  place. It's one of the the forgotten
• 2:11:07
  games, but it is if you followed me, it is a must.
• 2:11:11
  It's actually if you're going to hang out with me, if Hawaii is
• 2:11:14
  playing the final game of the day in Hawaii and you don't have
• 2:11:19
  action on it, you can't hang out.
• 2:11:22
  So we will have action on that game.
• 2:11:23
  They're catching the touchdown and a hook versus San Diego
• 2:11:26
  State. You got 261 team six and three
• 2:11:28
  and seven one San Diego State like these are these are pretty
• 2:11:31
  good teams here coming out the Mountain West.
• 2:11:33
  You know, obviously in the mountain making much than a than
• 2:11:36
  a mid bowl, but a good this should be a good matchup.
• 2:11:39
  I don't like the seven and a half.
• 2:11:41
  I think 7 1/2 is way too many points for San Diego State.
• 2:11:43
  I think Hawaii can win this game now, right?
• 2:11:45
  Think they're always a tough place to play even when they are
• 2:11:48
  having a really bad year, but I'm kind of a fan of what
• 2:11:52
  they've done there in Hawaii with their new coach.
• 2:11:54
  He was there that was 30 year. I believe they got a guy that
• 2:11:58
  that's thrown for 2100 yards can run the ball decently well.
• 2:12:02
  I think it's going to be a good matchup.
• 2:12:04
  I think that this game can come down to the final possession.
• 2:12:07
  So I'll take the plus points in this matchup.
• 2:12:09
  That's one of my favorite games of the card, actually.
• 2:12:12
  And I love it because it's that last spot when everybody's
• 2:12:15
  asleep and I can kind of relax and finally watch the game by
• 2:12:17
  myself. So we're going to head to the
• 2:12:19
  NFL in this spot and we're going to take a team that I'm high on
• 2:12:23
  and I've been high on and I think is going to win the Super
• 2:12:25
  Bowl. And I've said it from week one,
• 2:12:27
  who care that I'm getting there, I'm getting there.
• 2:12:30
  Some of their games in the middle of the year have not done
• 2:12:32
  well. But I think the Bills are for
• 2:12:34
  real. I think Josh Allen's the best
• 2:12:36
  quarterback in the NFL. Aren't you a Bills fan?
• 2:12:39
  I'm a big Bills fan, but since 2024 I'm a new Ghost fan I admit
• 2:12:44
  that. But I just if you look at what
• 2:12:46
  Josh Holland is doing with the receivers he has, he is 2 tight
• 2:12:50
  ends that could be the same person.
• 2:12:52
  He got this guy named Khalil and another guy named Keon Coleman
• 2:12:55
  that those are his receivers. So he's doing a lot.
• 2:12:59
  The most with the less with the least.
• 2:13:02
  I do think they win this game. I do think they're going to blow
• 2:13:05
  out the Dolphins. I think the Dolphins are just in
• 2:13:07
  in a weird spot. If they fire their GM, people
• 2:13:12
  think they should have fired their coach, made it a freaking
• 2:13:17
  racial issue. I guess I don't know.
• 2:13:19
  This whole organization is is really they need to restart.
• 2:13:23
  The GM has been there for 20 years and they haven't done
• 2:13:25
  anything with it. They're at home.
• 2:13:27
  So I think it's a dangerous spot catching it and a half.
• 2:13:30
  I just don't see them being able to put up for instead Josh, I'll
• 2:13:33
  be able to put up in that spot. I'm going to lay it and this is
• 2:13:36
  always I don't like laying that many points, but I will do that
• 2:13:40
  in that spot. The other game.
• 2:13:43
  I the other game I like in the NFL is going to be and we kind
• 2:13:47
  of gave this out already, but it's one of my top players.
• 2:13:50
  I like the Seahawks. I just did not so much cobra set
• 2:13:53
  that you know they are going to go with him probably the rest of
• 2:13:55
  the year. We're we're missing four more
• 2:13:57
  games for Kyle and Murray by the time he's even healthy and ready
• 2:14:00
  to come back. They probably don't even play on
• 2:14:01
  the rest of the year. So they're going to give the car
• 2:14:03
  the keys to the car to Jacob reset.
• 2:14:05
  Not really sold on him for this offense.
• 2:14:07
  They don't really have a running game.
• 2:14:09
  It showed against Dallas, which is great.
• 2:14:11
  And you know, you put me 10 of the guys and I'm running for 150
• 2:14:15
  on Dallas. So that really didn't impress me
• 2:14:17
  that much to give me the Seahawks to cover that spread.
• 2:14:20
  And then the last game I'm going to go back to college.
• 2:14:23
  I can get there. A couple notes here, it's going
• 2:14:28
  to be a Friday night game Tulane versus Memphis.
• 2:14:32
  I think this is a good spot to take Tulane at plus a 3 1/2.
• 2:14:38
  Now Tulane just came off a terrible play against UTSA where
• 2:14:41
  they gave up fifty plus points or 40 plus points something
• 2:14:45
  insane lost. They scored nineteen points.
• 2:14:47
  This is such a bounce back spot in Memphis at 8:00 and 1:00
• 2:14:50
  member. We're kind of still in this.
• 2:14:52
  Memphis is in so that the top rated team outside the power 4
• 2:14:57
  playoff contention. I don't think they're going to
• 2:14:59
  get there. I think Tulane wins this game
• 2:15:00
  now, right? I will take the points in my
• 2:15:02
  back pocket. I think it's a great bounce back
• 2:15:04
  spot for them after getting land blasted by UTSA.
• 2:15:08
  They come in on the road and win a good game against a good
• 2:15:10
  Memphis team. All right, the Knicks are laying
• 2:15:14
  the smacketh on the Timberwolves right now.
• 2:15:17
  They're just smacking them. It's the game's over
• 2:15:20
  practically. I think it's over in about 30
• 2:15:22
  seconds, but it looks like the Knicks are going to come up with
• 2:15:27
  a win and they'll be 5 and three.
• 2:15:29
  This might give them that confidence and maybe listen, I
• 2:15:33
  think it's going to take 25 games for the Knicks to get
• 2:15:36
  where they want to be and and build the confidence with the
• 2:15:39
  season. But Knick fans are having a
• 2:15:41
  heart attack because they're four and three right now and
• 2:15:43
  they're in six plays in the Eastern Conference.
• 2:15:45
  Guys, relax. I expect the Knicks to win 60 to
• 2:15:48
  62 games this year, and they're going to be fine.
• 2:15:52
  I I really do. And once, once Carl Anthony
• 2:15:56
  Towns realizes shooting 80 foot jumpers don't work, we'll be
• 2:15:59
  fine. So I, I could book that one.
• 2:16:02
  So yeah, 5 hot garbage teams. That's fine.
• 2:16:06
  They're still winning. They're still NBA teams.
• 2:16:09
  You got to beat them. And Anthony Edwards is still on
• 2:16:11
  this roster. And by the way, Julius Randall's
• 2:16:13
  pretty damn good too. So yeah, whatever.
• 2:16:17
  Anyways, Reno, Johnny, thank you.
• 2:16:21
  I'll be back next week or I'm actually out next week.
• 2:16:26
  I'm out next week. I'll be in Mexico.
• 2:16:28
  What? Are you going to do in Mexico,
• 2:16:30
  man? Next week I have my my wife's
• 2:16:33
  friends getting married out there and we were invited.
• 2:16:35
  So don't drink the water. We don't drink the water.
• 2:16:38
  And we have spent the money, the hotel, the the flights are
• 2:16:42
  booked. The kid has a babysitter.
• 2:16:44
  So it's me and the wife down in Mexico for a.
• 2:16:48
  Couple days I'm. With the woman.
• 2:16:49
  Enjoy. You're going to use it, You're
• 2:16:51
  going to, you're going to use the paddles or what?
• 2:16:54
  We're going to use whatever we got in the hotel room.
• 2:16:56
  There you go. Paddle it up, my friend.
• 2:16:58
  Paddle it up. Take it to the brim, baby.
• 2:17:01
  Two weeks, two weeks, I'll be back.
• 2:17:03
  You're a basketball player, you should take it to the rim, if
• 2:17:05
  you know what I mean. I'm going to try.
• 2:17:07
  I'm going to try, yeah. Just make sure you're safe over
• 2:17:11
  there so you don't score, if you know what I mean.
• 2:17:14
  Yeah. We'll see, but yes, I'll see
• 2:17:17
  y'all in two weeks. The baby maker go to Co Cancuni
• 2:17:22
  with Mexicano. Yeah.
• 2:17:24
  So there you go, Reno. Johnny's going to Mexico,
• 2:17:26
  enjoying his wedding with the Wifer.
• 2:17:29
  Speedy, you have a hidden wife somewhere.
• 2:17:32
  I don't know any girls, any speedsters, any Speedy delivery,
• 2:17:38
  if you know what I mean. Are you delivering the cake?
• 2:17:43
  No. Are you patting the whiskers?
• 2:17:45
  Are you beating the snugs department?
• 2:17:47
  Are you beating the meat? Are you slamming the salami?
• 2:17:50
  No. Padding the whiskers is snugs
• 2:17:52
  department. She loves all the cats.
• 2:17:53
  Are you popping the corn in the hole?
• 2:17:57
  No, no corn. That's one state over from Java
• 2:18:00
  so that we'll trust him. Are you slipping the pony?
• 2:18:04
  No, that's Chaz's department. You're dating everyone else.
• 2:18:07
  Horse racing, corn cats. Are you priesting the Judas?
• 2:18:12
  You know what I mean? No, I figured you don't know.
• 2:18:15
  It's OK, Speedy. You're a little lost.
• 2:18:17
  Are you going to Tim the Donnie? I will not answer that.
• 2:18:28
  Tony Beats anyways. Yeah.
• 2:18:30
  Let's go to a break. We have in like Flynn.
• 2:18:33
  No goodies. Bag of balls.
• 2:18:34
  Tonight we have King of the Hill and somebody smells like
• 2:18:38
  mothballs. It might be the old speedster.
• 2:18:42
  So we're going to help them out. We have what's that smell as
• 2:18:46
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  It got a couple of stories before we get into the scores
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• 2:19:10
  Brady is so good at staying young.
• 2:19:13
  Death no longer will stop him from keeping his life going how
• 2:19:17
  he wants it to be. Apparently, after Brady lost his
• 2:19:20
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• 2:19:25
  her into his new dog, Junie. Brady celebrated the company who
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  Biosciences, earlier this year on Instagram when they
• 2:19:36
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• 2:19:40
  went extinct near the end of the last Ice Age.
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  Well extinct outside of House Stark and Game of Thrones, Brady
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  shocked many in an article in People magazine where he
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• 2:19:53
  I love my animals, they mean the world to me and my family, told
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• 2:20:03
  simple blood draw of her family's elderly dog before she
• 2:20:06
  passed. Colossal Biosciences is setting
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• 2:20:13
  in its de extinction efforts. Colossal added cloning to its
• 2:20:17
  inventory of services after acquiring the company Viogen,
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  who famously cloned pets for movie stars Barbra Streisand and
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  Paris Hilton. It certainly appears that the
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  great TB 12 isn't going anywhere anytime soon, and if he is, we
• 2:20:31
  may end up with TB 1314 and so on, even if he does.
• 2:20:35
  Every so often in tennis we have debates over men's tennis and
• 2:20:39
  women's tennis. There have been plenty of men
• 2:20:41
  who believed that they would easily beat the top women in the
• 2:20:43
  sport, even if the men are washed up former players.
• 2:20:46
  Going back to the famous Battle of the Sexes in the 1970s
• 2:20:50
  between legendary women's tennis player and feminist icon Billie
• 2:20:53
  Jean King and a 55 year old former Wimbledon champion Bobby
• 2:20:57
  Riggs who had just beaten the top Australian women's player
• 2:21:00
  trying to get King to face him. King won the match in a historic
• 2:21:04
  moment during the 70s. Feminist movement.
• 2:21:06
  Well, it appears we are about to have a redux of the famous match
• 2:21:09
  from half a century ago in Dubai on December 28th when woman's
• 2:21:14
  number one player in the world, Arno Sabalenka will take on Nick
• 2:21:17
  Kurdios, who has not played regularly in a few years dealing
• 2:21:20
  with injury and is ranked lower than 600 in the world.
• 2:21:23
  Current Kirgios has been outspoken about how the match
• 2:21:26
  would go and apparently in Dubai there will be a market for this
• 2:21:29
  exhibition. She is not going to beat me.
• 2:21:31
  Do you really think I have to try?
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  100%? I'm going to try because I'm
• 2:21:35
  represented the men's side. I'd say like 6-2 maybe.
• 2:21:38
  Kirgios playing, I'm not going to go there and say oh, she's so
• 2:21:41
  good, I can't play this. That would make me look so bad.
• 2:21:44
  I'd imagine the Internet would go crazy, go bananas.
• 2:21:47
  I mean, our serves women can't really return those and then we
• 2:21:50
  can just chip and drop shot. I think I'm going to be OK.
• 2:21:53
  I'm going to go there and I don't want her to win, that's
• 2:21:55
  for sure. Regardless of whether or not you
• 2:21:58
  believe her goes or not, we're sure to have an interesting
• 2:22:00
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• 2:22:03
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• 2:22:07
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  you'd give me a warm welcome if ever we met again.
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  And like flan, flan. All right, ladies and gentlemen,
• 2:26:07
  we do this every single week and I want to say something.
• 2:26:11
  We had Tim Donaghy on the show and I wanted to do something
• 2:26:15
  with basketball. Yes, ladies and gentlemen.
• 2:26:19
  So tonight I am going to grade the top 10 guards in the NBA.
• 2:26:28
  That's right. You heard it from me.
• 2:26:31
  I'm going to give you. So I, I was looking around and
• 2:26:36
  hoop Shype is, is one of those big, big websites.
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  I, I was looking and, and scoping out which which one I
• 2:26:46
  want to go through. I don't want to go through ESPN
• 2:26:48
  because I don't like ESPN and, and what ESPN posts up.
• 2:26:52
  So I'm going to go with this one.
• 2:26:53
  I I thought it was very interesting how they graded
• 2:26:56
  these guys. So at #10 they have Tyrese Maxey
• 2:27:03
  from Philadelphia and Tyrese Maxey is averaging well.
• 2:27:06
  Last year he was averaging 26.3 points per game, 6.1 assists per
• 2:27:12
  game, and yeah, three, about 3.3 rebounds a game.
• 2:27:16
  I would say about four ratio of that and 43.7 field goal
• 2:27:22
  percentage. He's averaging 37 million a
• 2:27:25
  year. I would have thought they would
• 2:27:27
  have graded him higher. I, I think that Joel Embiid has
• 2:27:30
  not been healthy and it's been on this kid to really take over
• 2:27:34
  and, and really be the leader of this team.
• 2:27:36
  He doesn't cry to the media. He goes out and he plays the
• 2:27:40
  damn game game. And I, I think he's definitely
• 2:27:43
  higher at than 10. So I'm going to go to number 9
• 2:27:48
  and I'm going to tell you why I would even put Maxi ahead of
• 2:27:51
  this guy, D Aaron Fox. And D Aaron Fox at #9 is
• 2:27:55
  interesting with San Antonio. And I would put D Aaron Fox at
• 2:27:58
  number #10 by the way, because I think that's where he sits.
• 2:28:03
  D Aaron Fox can't stay healthy with his talent.
• 2:28:06
  It's you. You can't, you can't argue the
• 2:28:08
  talent of this kid. He he could do everything. 26.3
• 2:28:12
  points per game, 3.3 rebounds per game, 6.1 assists per game.
• 2:28:16
  It's almost identical to Tyrese Maxi, but he plays with Web and
• 2:28:21
  Yama. And I just think that, you know,
• 2:28:24
  you're playing with one of the best young big men in the
• 2:28:27
  league. I I think that, you know,
• 2:28:30
  obviously you have that kind of star in the team.
• 2:28:32
  I don't think Philadelphia has enough of Joel Embiid and not
• 2:28:36
  enough of him playing because he doesn't play back to backs.
• 2:28:39
  I would put the Aaron Fox over at 10.
• 2:28:44
  So that's where I would put the Aaron Fox at #10 I would move
• 2:28:48
  Maxi even down lower at #8JA Moranz.
• 2:28:55
  Now John Moran is one of the most accurate players in all of
• 2:28:58
  sports, especially in the NBA. His high flying dunks special.
• 2:29:03
  But his gun charges and, and the stupidity off the court really
• 2:29:08
  hurts him on the court and, and, and, and it definitely hurts his
• 2:29:12
  play. You can see it.
• 2:29:14
  He's making 39 million a year, averaging 23.2 points per game,
• 2:29:18
  4.1 rebounds per game, and his field goal percentage is 45.4.
• 2:29:24
  He is a great player. There's no question that he is.
• 2:29:28
  But I, I'm definitely going to make him dip and he is going to
• 2:29:31
  dip to #9 on my, my grade at #8 This is where I put Tyrese
• 2:29:39
  Maxie. Tyrese Maxie deserves a little
• 2:29:42
  bit more credit than that where they're putting them.
• 2:29:44
  And a lot of different, you know, leagues and, and different
• 2:29:47
  papers and, and articles have put him as a top ten point
• 2:29:52
  guard. So I would put him at 8 #7 James
• 2:29:59
  Harden. Now I wouldn't put James Harden
• 2:30:03
  in my top ten. OK, I know how talented he is.
• 2:30:07
  He is a prolific offensive player, averaging 22.8 points
• 2:30:11
  per game, 5.8 rebounds per game, 8.7 assists per game, and a 41
• 2:30:17
  point O field goal percentage. He did win an MVPI.
• 2:30:20
  Would not, I repeat, I would not put him in my top ten.
• 2:30:25
  I'm not a big fan of the one and only James Harden just because
• 2:30:31
  of his inconsistency and his double dribbling because he
• 2:30:36
  likes to hold the ball. We've said that the step backs
• 2:30:39
  are a little out there, so I would not put him in my top 10
• 2:30:43
  at #7 I am going to put the one and only Trey Young.
• 2:30:49
  They got him on at number six. I think he's a little bit
• 2:30:52
  higher. Trey Young, 24.2 points per
• 2:30:56
  game, 3.1 rebounds per game, 11.6 assists per game, 41.1
• 2:31:02
  field goal percentage. He's a great player.
• 2:31:04
  He's got an ability to shoot the three.
• 2:31:07
  He doesn't make anybody around him better in my eyes.
• 2:31:09
  I don't care if he's averaging 11.6 per game.
• 2:31:12
  They're at the end of the game at the Hawks.
• 2:31:14
  A horrible team. I, I just, I, I don't think he
• 2:31:18
  makes the team around him better.
• 2:31:19
  I, I think that he should be going somewhere else and it
• 2:31:23
  maybe has an opportunity to be a star somewhere else.
• 2:31:26
  I would put him at 7, at number six.
• 2:31:31
  And I know a lot of people are going to hate me on this, but
• 2:31:34
  I'm going to go, I'm going to go this route because I just think
• 2:31:37
  that he's a lot better there and I'm bringing it up right now.
• 2:31:41
  I am going to go, ladies and gentlemen, this year, not
• 2:31:45
  because of his back end of his career and everything like that.
• 2:31:49
  This year I'm going to go Lamella Ball.
• 2:31:52
  Lamella Ball, when playing this guy is as good as anybody in the
• 2:31:57
  league at his position. I think he can pass.
• 2:32:00
  He averaged 7.4 assists per game last year, 4.9 rebounds per
• 2:32:05
  game, 25.2 points per game. He's playing on a bad team.
• 2:32:08
  14.40 point, 5 field goal percentage.
• 2:32:11
  He's a great 3 point shooter. He's the best of the ball
• 2:32:14
  brothers. There's no question that he is.
• 2:32:17
  I do believe he is that good and I I think he's going to be even
• 2:32:21
  better when they put a bunch of players around them.
• 2:32:23
  I, I don't get why I haven't yet, but it is the Charlotte
• 2:32:27
  Hornets and they are a terrible, terrible organization.
• 2:32:31
  So I would put him at number six at #5 I would agree with this.
• 2:32:40
  I will, I will agree with this. They got Steph Curry and Steph
• 2:32:45
  Curry who's still a sensational guard.
• 2:32:47
  There's no question that he is. He averages 2024.4 points per
• 2:32:52
  24.5 points per game last year, 4.4 rebounds per game, six point
• 2:32:57
  cyst a game, six point O cyst per game, 44.8 field goal
• 2:33:01
  percentage. He is a great overall play.
• 2:33:03
  He's making a lot of money, $59 million.
• 2:33:06
  He can shoot the three. He's the best 3 point shooter in
• 2:33:08
  the league still to this day. He makes everybody around him
• 2:33:11
  better, but he's falling and and one of the reasons why is there
• 2:33:16
  is a much younger players and much younger talent in the NBA
• 2:33:21
  right now. So I would agree, I would put
• 2:33:23
  Steph Curry in the top five, but at 5 #4 they have Cade
• 2:33:30
  Cunningham now. This guy to me should be much
• 2:33:32
  higher. I think this guy is as good as
• 2:33:35
  any point guard in the league. He's playing on the Detroit
• 2:33:37
  Pistons. OK, the Pistons now he can't
• 2:33:40
  stay healthy. Last year was the first year I I
• 2:33:43
  can, I can remember that he stayed healthy since he was
• 2:33:45
  drafted. 26.1 per points per game, 6.1 rebounds per game, 9.1
• 2:33:51
  assists per game, 46.9 field goal percentage.
• 2:33:55
  This guy makes everybody around him better, so I think he's a
• 2:34:00
  little higher than this at #4 I would put they have him at #3
• 2:34:05
  but until he proves himself in the big game, I'm going to take
• 2:34:10
  him out of the top three. I'm putting my guy Jalen Bronson
• 2:34:15
  at #4. Jalen Bronson averages 26.0
• 2:34:19
  points per game, 2.9 rebounds per game, 7.3 assists per game,
• 2:34:25
  a field goal percentage of 48.8 which is one of the highest in
• 2:34:29
  the league. He's played great ball.
• 2:34:32
  He's made the Knicks a contender over the last couple of years
• 2:34:36
  and might jump to an MVP candidate this year.
• 2:34:38
  We have to see if he's more consistent in certain parts of
• 2:34:43
  the season. I would put him at four and at
• 2:34:47
  #3. I am going to put Luka Doncic.
• 2:34:52
  They have him at #2 Luka Dodgic is I, I don't consider him a
• 2:34:56
  point guard. I I would see, I would say he is
• 2:34:59
  a guard. You could put him at the 2, you
• 2:35:01
  could put him at the three. He can play multiple positions.
• 2:35:03
  A point guard, I don't know. 28.2 points per game, 8.2
• 2:35:08
  rebounds per game, 7.7 assists per game, a 45.0 field goal
• 2:35:13
  percentage. I think Luca is one of the best
• 2:35:15
  players in the league. I would put him in my top three
• 2:35:18
  in the league as a guard. No at #2 I would put Kate
• 2:35:22
  Cunningham. I think Kate Cunningham is that
• 2:35:26
  great of a player. He's special.
• 2:35:29
  I I might even jump him to #1 by the end of the season.
• 2:35:32
  He is so good, so special and when he plays at the top of his
• 2:35:36
  game, I don't think there's anybody better than him at the
• 2:35:39
  position. You saw what he did against the
• 2:35:41
  Knicks in round one. It wasn't because of him that
• 2:35:44
  they lost in that series. It was just no depth by the
• 2:35:47
  Detroit Pistons. He put the team on his
• 2:35:50
  shoulders. He played well.
• 2:35:51
  I'm not going to say Cade is not an elite player.
• 2:35:54
  He is absolutely elite at #2 and at #1.
• 2:35:59
  I would agree with them, There's no doubt about it.
• 2:36:01
  The MVP of the league, Shy Alexander.
• 2:36:07
  He wears these ugly outfits, as you guys put it.
• 2:36:11
  But he has style, baby. He has style and I love his
• 2:36:16
  family life. I love everything about him on
• 2:36:18
  and off the court. I love that he's a great
• 2:36:20
  teammate. I love his potential as an elite
• 2:36:24
  point guard in this league. There's nothing bad to say about
• 2:36:28
  this guy. 3.23.7 points per game last year. 5 point O rebounds
• 2:36:33
  per game. 6.4 assists per game. A 1.7 steals per game. 51.9
• 2:36:39
  field goal percentage, which is the best out of any guard in the
• 2:36:43
  league. He is as good as anybody and
• 2:36:46
  he's underpaid $38 million a year.
• 2:36:49
  When you look at the top guards of the league, he's taking less
• 2:36:52
  money and he's that special man. I think he's the best of the
• 2:36:57
  best and will be considered the Jordan like player if he
• 2:37:03
  continues on this trajectory. He is a great defender too.
• 2:37:07
  This guy can play two way basketball as good as anybody.
• 2:37:10
  I don't think there's a better two way basketball player at his
• 2:37:13
  position in the league. That's how good he is at the
• 2:37:16
  position. He can defend any but any guard
• 2:37:19
  in the league at a high level. Give me shy Alexander at #1 and
• 2:37:24
  why somebody skipped him in our league all the way to 4 to 4 to
• 2:37:28
  me makes no sense. But whoever did, thank you very
• 2:37:32
  much. I'm loving it.
• 2:37:34
  Shy Alexander #1 So that, ladies and gentlemen, is the top ten
• 2:37:40
  point guards in my view in the NBA.
• 2:37:44
  Bronson hasn't done it in the big game.
• 2:37:47
  And until he gets this team over the hump to the Finals, I I just
• 2:37:50
  don't know if he shows up in the games that he needs to show up
• 2:37:53
  in. I want to see him do that.
• 2:37:55
  If he does it this year. I know a lot of people, AKA
• 2:37:58
  Stephen A Smith thinks he's an MVP candidate.
• 2:38:02
  I don't know, I want to see the next pick up the pace.
• 2:38:05
  This is a new coach Mike Brown is going to get them right, I
• 2:38:10
  believe and in the right rotation on this roster.
• 2:38:13
  So but yeah, I don't think he's in the top three and I would put
• 2:38:16
  Luca, even though I don't think Luca is in my top 2.
• 2:38:21
  He is in my top three. It's.
• 2:38:22
  So hard to like, although some of them are pretty obvious, but
• 2:38:26
  like Luca is just tough if they're going to put him on the
• 2:38:28
  list like is he truly genuinely a point guard?
• 2:38:30
  Like it's just tough now with he's.
• 2:38:34
  Really, he's under guard. He's under 3, he's under 3, he's
• 2:38:38
  under 2. He could be.
• 2:38:39
  He could be multiple positions in fantasy.
• 2:38:42
  He does bring the ball up. He's not I I don't think I would
• 2:38:47
  consider him a guard. That's just my opinion.
• 2:38:49
  I would think he's the elite of the elite of threes in the NBAI
• 2:38:55
  think he's great. I just don't put him.
• 2:38:58
  I don't put him in my top 2. I don't put him as a point guard
• 2:39:00
  either, no. Kate Cunningham is special, That
• 2:39:03
  kid is special. And if he could stay healthy, I
• 2:39:07
  think he could be even the best guard in the league.
• 2:39:09
  That's how good he is. I love watching a play.
• 2:39:12
  I really, really do. And you know, maybe I'm not
• 2:39:16
  going to say future Nick because I love Jalen.
• 2:39:18
  I'm not going to say that. But he has ties in New York.
• 2:39:22
  There is stories. He's only, he's only 20. 4.
• 2:39:24
  I know. And does he want to stay in
• 2:39:26
  Detroit? I mean, come on, who wants to
• 2:39:28
  stay in Detroit? Just the new arena.
• 2:39:30
  Sweet. Yeah.
• 2:39:32
  But yeah, it's Detroit. Who likes that?
• 2:39:35
  Well, yeah, but that whole downtown area, they put over a
• 2:39:37
  billion dollars in it. I guess you're right.
• 2:39:40
  I know you were there and I know you will stick up for Detroit
• 2:39:43
  till the. End well, No, no, I mean, it's
• 2:39:45
  crazy too that Dan Gilbert's from there and he he put half of
• 2:39:48
  the money in. Yeah, and he doesn't put half
• 2:39:50
  the money into Ohio Cleveland. Yeah, great.
• 2:39:54
  And and he owns the casino in Detroit, too.
• 2:39:56
  I figured that one out. He's still probably the best
• 2:39:58
  owner of the three Cleveland sports teams.
• 2:40:00
  Though Well, yeah, I mean, well, the new, yeah, the new
• 2:40:03
  Cleveland, one of the baseball isn't there.
• 2:40:06
  Somebody needs the other Dolan, Somebody needs to smack around.
• 2:40:10
  Somebody needs to smack Mr. Gilbert around.
• 2:40:12
  LeBron tried to this didn't work and then he went back there and
• 2:40:15
  won of a championship. Makes me sick.
• 2:40:17
  Anyways, yeah, that was in like Flynn this week.
• 2:40:21
  I think it was a good one. I really do.
• 2:40:23
  And I did that for Tim Donaghy for joining us.
• 2:40:27
  I I know he's a huge basketball guy.
• 2:40:31
  And that's for you, Timmy. We love you.
• 2:40:33
  That was a great interview, by the way.
• 2:40:35
  It really was. And I I wanted to be polite and
• 2:40:38
  I was baby. What did you think of the
• 2:40:39
  interview? I thought it was fantastic.
• 2:40:40
  I did and I wanted to make sure that I had fun with it.
• 2:40:43
  And I know he's not a big fan of David Stern.
• 2:40:45
  I kind of threw the threw it out there like I put like, you know,
• 2:40:50
  a worm on the pole. And I said, oh, well, David
• 2:40:53
  Stern really changed the league for the better.
• 2:40:56
  And he gave me a look and then I was like, OK, all right, I'm
• 2:40:59
  sorry, I didn't mean to do that. But it was it was a great
• 2:41:03
  interview. All right, No goodies, bag a
• 2:41:05
  ball. So we got King of the Hill.
• 2:41:08
  And here's the king of the hill. This, Bobby, is the Beltline.
• 2:41:12
  You never, ever hit below that. Not that kind of king of the
• 2:41:16
  Hill. You dumb Ready?
• 2:41:16
  Are you ready? This is King of the Hill.
• 2:41:21
  Welcome back to King of the Hill, everyone's favorite trivia
• 2:41:26
  competition game. We're going to get a chance to
• 2:41:29
  take on the king, I believe, who was the Last King that made.
• 2:41:32
  Arrow one. Arrow one.
• 2:41:35
  All right, so arrow back in the rightful seat as king tonight.
• 2:41:39
  First round it's everybody versus to get a chance to get to
• 2:41:44
  be finalists to take each other on in the joust in Round 2,
• 2:41:48
  where you get win a chance to take on king.
• 2:41:51
  Your competitors will get a chance to vote on if they want
• 2:41:56
  you to stay the king or to be changed to a new king for next
• 2:42:00
  time. Are you guys ready to play king
• 2:42:02
  of the hill? All right, nobody's ready to
• 2:42:06
  play. But I'm ready to play.
• 2:42:08
  I'm trying to be polite here. I don't.
• 2:42:10
  I'm ready. My string, my string.
• 2:42:12
  You know when your string's on your another total Jack.
• 2:42:14
  Nothing was bugging me. We're gonna go for the first one
• 2:42:17
  and this is a general sports topic tonight, No specific
• 2:42:21
  sports. Who you think are the most
• 2:42:24
  famous athletes of all? Now I'm going to give you guys.
• 2:42:30
  In on the back as. Well, I'm going to give you guys
• 2:42:32
  a tip. If I'm voting, don't go a route
• 2:42:35
  that I think you're going to go. I'm just telling you, just
• 2:42:37
  throwing that curve because you will lose.
• 2:42:40
  Nathan, if you want to get in, you can get in on this.
• 2:42:42
  If you're not, you know, watching some.
• 2:42:44
  Sebastian could get on on it if he wants.
• 2:42:46
  He wants. He can come in.
• 2:42:47
  Sebastian, if you want to get in, you can get in.
• 2:42:50
  Yeah. All right, so this is how it
• 2:42:52
  works. Nathan, you going to play?
• 2:42:54
  No, I'm good. You don't want to play.
• 2:42:57
  All right. Bye, Nathan.
• 2:42:59
  Yeah, bye. He's he probably got no pants on
• 2:43:01
  right now. You just.
• 2:43:02
  I was going to say, what exactly was he was?
• 2:43:04
  That was quick, wasn't it? That was.
• 2:43:05
  Quick. Breaking news, a lot of hot
• 2:43:09
  ladies. Browsers open all right, lot of.
• 2:43:12
  Hot. I got to go back off now.
• 2:43:14
  Enjoy that, whatever you know, if it's your girl Lisa that was
• 2:43:17
  on the screen or not, I don't know, but here it is.
• 2:43:20
  Most famous athletes of all time.
• 2:43:23
  You're going to pick any athlete and tell us why he's the most
• 2:43:27
  famous or one of the most famous of all time.
• 2:43:29
  You got 3 total picks. Jabba, you're going to go first,
• 2:43:33
  followed by Jarrett, Speedy and Sebastian.
• 2:43:36
  You're going to go 2 times in a row because it'll snake back
• 2:43:39
  down the other way like a fantasy draft.
• 2:43:42
  Here we go, Jabba, start us off. All right.
• 2:43:46
  Well, I know I'm kind of nowhere.
• 2:43:49
  Errol probably is leading whatever, but I'm going to, I'm
• 2:43:52
  going to kind of keep it old school with some new school, but
• 2:43:56
  I'm going to have to go Cassius Clay because that's what his
• 2:43:59
  Mama named him. And then obviously became
• 2:44:02
  Muhammad Ali. I think just the way that he,
• 2:44:05
  you know, transcended a sport, but also a culture and how, you
• 2:44:10
  know, he did things in a different way that hadn't been
• 2:44:13
  seen before as far as Moxie, as far as personality and, you
• 2:44:17
  know, took a sport that, you know, obviously was huge at the
• 2:44:20
  time. But kind of, you know, with the
• 2:44:22
  thrill in Manila and all the other stuff that he did to make
• 2:44:25
  it and more global sport is just that famous category is is
• 2:44:31
  definitely him on the Mount Rushmore for sure.
• 2:44:34
  Jared. All right.
• 2:44:38
  Errol kind of scared me off a certain route, so I'm going to
• 2:44:40
  go kind of more American here. We're going to go with Michael
• 2:44:43
  Jordan. Michael Jordan is basketball
• 2:44:46
  around the world. I don't think there's more
• 2:44:48
  famous basketball player you can prove LeBron, Curry, whoever
• 2:44:51
  they're not more famous than Michael Jordan just based on his
• 2:44:54
  own name is created a billion dollar company just off his own
• 2:44:58
  name and issues. So it's Michael Jordan.
• 2:45:01
  Speedy All right, I'll go similar route to Java, take
• 2:45:03
  another boxer. I'll take Mike Tyson, a
• 2:45:05
  heavyweight for his era too. It was probably a video game
• 2:45:08
  named after him. And obviously before the whole
• 2:45:10
  ear biting incident you guys talked about a few weeks ago
• 2:45:12
  that he was thought of as like one of the just overall greatest
• 2:45:16
  guys in boxing and obviously won a ton of heavyweight
• 2:45:20
  championships. Sebastian for two.
• 2:45:25
  I'm gonna go Tom Brady. I mean, he's the greatest
• 2:45:28
  football player to ever grace the football field.
• 2:45:31
  Seven rings. I mean, that's that's a no
• 2:45:33
  brainer in my opinion. Any football fan, you ask him
• 2:45:35
  who's the go, they're gonna say Tom Brady.
• 2:45:37
  So I'm going to go Tom Brady and then since I pick again, I'm
• 2:45:41
  going to follow on what Jared on the route.
• 2:45:43
  Jared is with basketball. I'm just I'm going to say
• 2:45:45
  LeBron. I mean he's after Jordan.
• 2:45:47
  I guess name wise, Lebron's next.
• 2:45:50
  Everybody talks about LeBron every day.
• 2:45:52
  He's the all time NBA league scorer.
• 2:45:55
  So that's going to be my fix, Tom Brady and LeBron.
• 2:45:59
  Speedy. And I'll do the first Baseball
• 2:46:00
  1. We'll go Babe Ruth, the Great
• 2:46:02
  Bambino, obviously still popular references even after he played,
• 2:46:05
  even after he passed away with The Sandlot and so many other
• 2:46:07
  things. And obviously we.
• 2:46:09
  Need losses of clout? Yes, and even a.
• 2:46:12
  Little butt plug I don't. Know if it's directly named
• 2:46:14
  after him, but I can't even named after him with the Baby
• 2:46:15
  Ruth bar and baseball cards galore.
• 2:46:18
  There's branding that still goes on for almost 100 years now with
• 2:46:21
  that man. I want her melons.
• 2:46:25
  Jared, I'm. Going to take the chance and go
• 2:46:28
  the athlete that has the most followers, I believe on social
• 2:46:31
  media of anybody and that's Cristiano Ronaldo.
• 2:46:35
  Soccer is the biggest sport in the world.
• 2:46:37
  He just and Cristiano Ronaldo is the biggest name in soccer has
• 2:46:41
  been for the last 20 years. I think he has over a billion
• 2:46:44
  social media. Followers on each.
• 2:46:46
  Platform. It's just ridiculous how famous
• 2:46:49
  that is. Very good point, Jabba for two.
• 2:46:56
  I'm going to go on a different a different route too.
• 2:46:59
  I'm going to go Tiger Woods for how obviously global golf has
• 2:47:05
  been. Obviously it wasn't invented in
• 2:47:07
  the United States, but when he came about how it how it moved
• 2:47:12
  the needle to not only, you know, to young kids made it
• 2:47:18
  cool. I mean, he was the first guy you
• 2:47:21
  talk about Jordan and a logo that TW still lives and to do
• 2:47:27
  what he's done and to have the controversy and still be loved
• 2:47:31
  in the way that he is in the game of golf and around.
• 2:47:36
  I think it's it's just it has to be him and and what he's done
• 2:47:41
  for the game of golf. And my second one, I'm going to
• 2:47:45
  go the dude in the water and Michael Phelps because in a a
• 2:47:52
  sport that I didn't care at all for.
• 2:47:56
  I mean, obviously I love going to the pool in the summer, but
• 2:47:59
  you would turn the TV on to watch this dude and he made it
• 2:48:03
  cool to smoke weed and swim. And for anybody that can make
• 2:48:08
  swimming. Pool and smoking.
• 2:48:09
  Weed that's that's pretty damn good in my book.
• 2:48:14
  Jared. Titties.
• 2:48:16
  All right, pro wrestling's not a sport, but pro wrestlers are
• 2:48:20
  athletes, and this guy played football in college.
• 2:48:23
  So I'm going to go with The Rock.
• 2:48:25
  The Rock is one of the most famous actors in the world, Is
• 2:48:28
  and was an athlete. I mean, you're going.
• 2:48:30
  To say like I think he's most highest paid actor in Hollywood
• 2:48:32
  right now, no. That's like, that's a good one,
• 2:48:37
  Jared. Dodger.
• 2:48:39
  They created speedy. I'll take.
• 2:48:42
  The other big name soccer player and said this generation that's
• 2:48:44
  Lionel Messi now obviously going to MLS areas now in Miami and
• 2:48:48
  he's very popular over there like this is MLS is like where
• 2:48:52
  all the washed up soccer players allegedly go and.
• 2:48:55
  I need a blow pop messy. 'S kind of created a whole like
• 2:48:58
  soccer culture there in a state in Miami that's a football state
• 2:49:01
  with college football in the NFL and a little bit the NBA.
• 2:49:04
  But those fans also left the game during Game 6.
• 2:49:06
  Blowjob. Just that.
• 2:49:07
  But I'll go messy. All right.
• 2:49:09
  And last pick of the round, Sebastian.
• 2:49:12
  Speedy took my pick, so I'm going to go with my backup pick.
• 2:49:16
  I'm going to stick to basketball.
• 2:49:17
  I'm going to say Steph Curry's the greatest shooter of all
• 2:49:19
  time. You know, kids nowadays, all
• 2:49:22
  they're obsessed with shooting 3 ball from all the way down
• 2:49:25
  court. You hear Kobe when they shoot,
• 2:49:27
  but don't they're they're starting to play like Curry now.
• 2:49:30
  So I'm going to go Steph Curry's last.
• 2:49:33
  Week. All right, Errol, who's moving
• 2:49:35
  on to the joust? I'm going to go different
• 2:49:38
  tonight. I'm going to go Jabba and Jared.
• 2:49:44
  All right, we've got the two moving on.
• 2:49:47
  I like the Babe Ruth, Speedy. I like the Babe Ruth.
• 2:49:50
  I like your takes. I I just, I'm going to go
• 2:49:54
  another route. I want to see what these guys
• 2:49:55
  got. All right guys, pop back off
• 2:49:58
  camera until the last round when we vote on the new king.
• 2:50:02
  Here we go Round 2 the joust best announcers in all of sports
• 2:50:10
  history. This could be any type of
• 2:50:12
  announcer from from people that do the PA in the stadium to play
• 2:50:18
  by play guys to color guys to anyone that's on the radio or
• 2:50:22
  television all time. All right, best announcers in
• 2:50:27
  sports history, Errol, who's going first?
• 2:50:30
  Let's go, Jared all. Right.
• 2:50:35
  OK. I'm going to go then Scully
• 2:50:39
  first. I think you talk about just
• 2:50:42
  iconic baseball announcers. That's one of the first name
• 2:50:45
  that's going to come to mind. So many legendary calls with
• 2:50:48
  him. The Gibson home runs, the first
• 2:50:54
  like call I think of I'm thinking of like a great
• 2:50:56
  announcing call. So let's go with Vince.
• 2:50:57
  Scully, Jabba. I'm going to stay the baseball
• 2:51:02
  ride, baseball route. I'm going to go Mel Allen this
• 2:51:06
  week in baseball is is just that the theme song and that voice
• 2:51:10
  and and Mel Island obviously starting with the Yankees as a
• 2:51:13
  play by play and just how that that show you got, you know,
• 2:51:17
  just the IT was the prerequisite to to what everything is in in
• 2:51:21
  the recap shows. And you know, his voice is is
• 2:51:25
  something that I'll never forget and was lucky enough to to have
• 2:51:30
  that. And I was going to go Vince
• 2:51:31
  Scully because I was fortunate enough to have my name come out
• 2:51:34
  of his mouth with this super, super dope.
• 2:51:36
  Droba smack my ass. He pronounced it right, though.
• 2:51:42
  Droba, Droba, I'm going to. Go with Mike Brain.
• 2:51:47
  I think especially the last 20 years, the best basketball
• 2:51:51
  announcer going play by play. Just awesome.
• 2:51:55
  Completely one of my mentors. Yeah, he's he's he's the man
• 2:52:00
  just incredible, incredible play by play work the bangs, every
• 2:52:06
  single call. And I think just his knowledge
• 2:52:08
  of the game, even if he's not calling, even he's calling a
• 2:52:10
  Knicks game on national TV to be completely unbiased in every
• 2:52:13
  game, even when he's calling just a Knicks broadcast, like
• 2:52:16
  I'll turn every like I watched the Knicks on league pass
• 2:52:19
  constantly just because I'm like, I'm going to get I'm going
• 2:52:21
  to get Breenan Fraser. That's the best announced team
• 2:52:22
  in the business right now. All right, Jabba.
• 2:52:28
  I'm going to go Jack Buck. I absolutely just just love Jack
• 2:52:34
  Buck and and just the what he did and obviously kind of a
• 2:52:39
  Homer just because I got to listen to him a little bit more
• 2:52:41
  being in, you know, the Midwest and and growing up with that and
• 2:52:45
  it just synonymous with how many, you know, world Syria,
• 2:52:48
  obviously. And he served in our military
• 2:52:50
  too, as an army, got a Purple Heart and just the way he, you
• 2:52:55
  know, started in radio. And then I think in the early
• 2:52:58
  50s, my dad would always talk about how that was one of the
• 2:53:01
  first forces that he ever remembers being in the
• 2:53:04
  Children's Hospital. So it was always somebody that I
• 2:53:06
  kind of migrated towards, which was was super cool.
• 2:53:09
  And to do it for as long as he did was was awesome.
• 2:53:12
  All right. Last ones, Jared.
• 2:53:15
  Well, Sebastian just mentioned in the comments it's going to be
• 2:53:18
  Kevin Harlan, just truly an amazing voice on commentary.
• 2:53:23
  First of all, in just a way with words that he has to call
• 2:53:27
  everything. Super entertaining announcer,
• 2:53:29
  great calls anytime there's a big big moment in any game in
• 2:53:33
  any sport to calls. Football, baseball, basketball,
• 2:53:36
  everything all. Right, and finish it off.
• 2:53:39
  Java we actually referenced one of his sayings.
• 2:53:42
  I think Chris Berman in the way that he, you know, kind of I
• 2:53:48
  love obviously the way he on Sports Center and I've actually
• 2:53:53
  the way that I got introduced to him was in a steakhouse in
• 2:53:57
  Baltimore. We were both peeing and we kind
• 2:53:58
  of looked at each other and I was like hey, he's like hey, I
• 2:54:01
  go this is weird. So that's my Chris Berman story,
• 2:54:04
  but just how he made it cool, how he had just kind of that
• 2:54:07
  personality and and how he's done it for so long and you
• 2:54:12
  know, continues to stay around. It does.
• 2:54:14
  And there's so many that you that have catch phrases and all
• 2:54:17
  that, but I think it was Sports Center coming up and how long
• 2:54:20
  he's done it. He's just, he's one of the best.
• 2:54:21
  I met I met Chris Berman at a buffet line.
• 2:54:26
  That's dope. I'm that's How I Met John
• 2:54:28
  Sterling actually exact same way at a buffet line because I
• 2:54:32
  coached his his son. He was my like third string JV
• 2:54:36
  quarterback one. Year I was watching, I was I he
• 2:54:39
  was putting a lobster on his plates and, and I look back and,
• 2:54:44
  and I'm like, is that Chris Berman?
• 2:54:46
  I'm like, how's the lobster, Chris?
• 2:54:48
  He says. I'm getting my seconds right
• 2:54:50
  now. He went back, back, back, back,
• 2:54:54
  back online. Oh, he went back, back, back on
• 2:54:56
  something, man, because he, he was buttering that motherfucker
• 2:55:00
  excuse. My language how?
• 2:55:01
  Did we not bring up Howard Cosell in this?
• 2:55:03
  One yes. I thought that was going to be
• 2:55:05
  too easy to have. Like I was like.
• 2:55:07
  I brought up Muhammad. Ali And that was another one and
• 2:55:10
  then obviously. How about?
• 2:55:12
  How about Nance? Marv, Albert.
• 2:55:14
  Marv Albert, How about Nance? Nance is pretty good.
• 2:55:17
  I was going to say Nance Al Michaels, like if we were going
• 2:55:21
  to do duos like I was Madden, him, him and Madden, I would
• 2:55:26
  have been like. Duos is a good one.
• 2:55:28
  I'll remember that for next time.
• 2:55:30
  All right, Errol, who's going on to face you in?
• 2:55:33
  So close round. Pick Jared.
• 2:55:37
  He's the intern. All right, Jared, let's go.
• 2:55:40
  Let's. Go, Jared, why don't you pop in
• 2:55:42
  and pop out, see if we get that camera working real quick as we
• 2:55:45
  set up. Everyone else come back in for
• 2:55:48
  the last round where we're going to vote on who's going to be.
• 2:55:52
  Errol, I was going to, I was going to try and Homer you too,
• 2:55:54
  and maybe throw in a Bob Shepard.
• 2:55:56
  Yeah, I probably. If you was actually.
• 2:55:58
  If you pick Bob Shepard, I can't.
• 2:56:00
  I can't lie. I'm taking you SO.
• 2:56:02
  I don't know it was. Like and that that I will say
• 2:56:05
  that's one of the coolest things ever.
• 2:56:06
  Like with playing like toward like the beginning of my career
• 2:56:10
  was towards the end of all these like great, like Vince Scully
• 2:56:12
  announced my name, Bob Shepard, Charlie Steiner.
• 2:56:16
  Like it was really cool. Like going back as a kid that
• 2:56:19
  like listen to all these guys and then actually have a chance
• 2:56:23
  like or like on Sports Center, like have these dudes talk about
• 2:56:27
  like a highlight or something. It's like I I thought it was
• 2:56:31
  stupid back then, but now the more like the older I get is
• 2:56:34
  like, wow, that was really cool that they taught.
• 2:56:36
  Like I have no idea who the hell I probably was.
• 2:56:39
  But like to have them like mention your name like in a
• 2:56:41
  highlight is super, super cool. All right, here it is, Round
• 2:56:45
  three, take on the King. Best moments?
• 2:56:49
  Come on, Jared. In sports history, when I say
• 2:56:53
  moments, you can't tell me the score of a game or anything like
• 2:56:55
  that. Just something that happened in
• 2:56:59
  a game, maybe not even in a game.
• 2:57:02
  Some kind of moment that's indelible throughout the history
• 2:57:07
  of modern sports. I think this is a fun topic.
• 2:57:11
  Very open-ended, boys. Let's get it going.
• 2:57:15
  Errol as the king. Do you want to go first or
• 2:57:18
  second? I want to go. 1st.
• 2:57:21
  All right, go ahead, Errol. How could you forget this one
• 2:57:24
  Miracle on Ice? Who doesn't forget that one when
• 2:57:30
  they beat Russia or the Soviet Union, The unstoppable Soviet
• 2:57:35
  Union and the goal heard around the world it was and, and then
• 2:57:40
  just the last two minutes of the game, how they kept the Soviet
• 2:57:44
  Union from scoring that goal to tie the game.
• 2:57:46
  It was amazing. It's one of those things that
• 2:57:49
  you'll always remember. I'm going Miracle on Ice.
• 2:57:51
  I'm. Going to go with the Gibson home
• 2:57:52
  run in the World Series. Walking up to the play as a
• 2:57:55
  pinch hitter with two bad knees. The only chance that they had
• 2:57:59
  was him hitting a home run. He could not run the bases.
• 2:58:03
  Maybe the most clutch moment in all sports history.
• 2:58:05
  So Kirk Gibson pinch hit home run.
• 2:58:07
  The World Series. Errol.
• 2:58:11
  I'm going to go with Jackie Robertson breaking the color
• 2:58:15
  barrier. I mean, Jackie Robertson was the
• 2:58:19
  one of the more, one of the more influential guys that really
• 2:58:23
  stood out in baseball history and really changed the barrier
• 2:58:27
  and opened up the floodgates. And, and a guy that stood for
• 2:58:30
  everything good guy and, and his wife still pushes everything
• 2:58:35
  that he stood for in in baseball and, and what he's done on and
• 2:58:39
  off the field. So I'm going Jackie Robertson
• 2:58:41
  breaking the color barrier. I'm.
• 2:58:43
  Going to go with the 28th of three comeback in the Super
• 2:58:46
  Bowl. Maybe it's because I'm a Falcons
• 2:58:49
  hater through and through, but truly just a remarkable moment.
• 2:58:54
  The greatest of all time. Just take a game away.
• 2:58:57
  All right, let's go for our last picks, Errol.
• 2:59:01
  Come on, everybody knows this story shot heard around the
• 2:59:06
  world. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, we
• 2:59:09
  all know Bobby Thompson. I watched a Harry.
• 2:59:12
  What was that? I forget what movie was it with
• 2:59:16
  with Bette Midler and Billy Crystal, Billy Crystal and the
• 2:59:21
  kid who couldn't remember anything And and he his Billy
• 2:59:25
  Crystal, it was his grandfather. And he was like sinking it in
• 2:59:29
  his head and he went up there on on the stage at the end of the
• 2:59:32
  movie and was mimicking everything that happened during
• 2:59:36
  during that game and and the home run.
• 2:59:38
  So I'm going to go shot her round the world.
• 2:59:43
  Let's. Go with the shot.
• 2:59:44
  Christian Leitner in the final four throwing the ball.
• 2:59:48
  Grant Hill, I believe, was. It Grant Hill.
• 2:59:51
  Throwing the ball length the court catch at the free throw
• 2:59:53
  line turn shoot to win a game in the final four.
• 2:59:56
  One of the greatest plays and marked madness history of the
• 2:59:58
  tournament that has so many great plays and great moments to
• 3:00:01
  it and that's still the one that stands the test of time is like
• 3:00:04
  that's the one they. Show every single time Christian
• 3:00:06
  Lena what a guy that should have been an NBA player and and just
• 3:00:10
  absolutely. Dude was on the dream.
• 3:00:12
  Team boy and he shouldn't have made that dream game.
• 3:00:16
  Did a great 97 with the Hawks. Yeah, right.
• 3:00:20
  What do you want me to throw up? I'm a Duke fan.
• 3:00:22
  I don't want to throw up. So I hate Christian Leitner doc.
• 3:00:28
  It's not that I hate Christian Leitner.
• 3:00:30
  I don't think people give Bobby Hurley a lot of credit, Grant
• 3:00:33
  Hill a lot of credit to Coach K with those teams.
• 3:00:37
  Leitner was great and Leitner had the personality to fit the
• 3:00:41
  person that he was. And, and I don't, I don't hate
• 3:00:44
  Christian Leitner. I just think that he should have
• 3:00:46
  been a much better NBA player. He choked and and there was a
• 3:00:50
  lot of pressure on him and he couldn't handle the pressure
• 3:00:52
  when he came into the NBA. So it's just my opinion.
• 3:00:55
  Well either way, I'm going with the voting here.
• 3:01:00
  So I just I'm scoring this 2 to one in favor of Errol.
• 3:01:04
  I liked the Miracle on Ice and Jackie Robinson better than the
• 3:01:08
  Kurt Gibson Homer and the Pats come back.
• 3:01:11
  But I like the Latener 1 better than the shot heard around the
• 3:01:14
  world. I wasn't alive for that one.
• 3:01:16
  I've read snippets, but the latener one I see forever and
• 3:01:21
  ever and ever. I agree.
• 3:01:23
  So I'm going 2 to one victory though for Errol.
• 3:01:26
  Let's go down the line. Let's go to Jabba.
• 3:01:30
  Yeah, I'm going to go same one. Jackie Robinson probably put it
• 3:01:33
  over the edge just I mean, just a moment in baseball history
• 3:01:38
  that is is forever synonymous with one of the greatest ever.
• 3:01:43
  I I do love the Leitner 1 though, too.
• 3:01:46
  But yeah, Jackie was just a little bit big.
• 3:01:49
  I it's literally, I teach the Miracle on Ice and Jackie
• 3:01:52
  Robinson bringing the color barrier in U.S. history class.
• 3:01:56
  So that's how important those two things are.
• 3:01:59
  I would say it's going to be hard to beat stuff like that.
• 3:02:02
  Speedy, how you going? Yeah.
• 3:02:04
  I'm definitely going out with this one.
• 3:02:05
  Miracle on Ice was my number one shot heard Around the World was
• 3:02:07
  kind of that first like big walk off you saw in World Series
• 3:02:10
  history. And it won them.
• 3:02:11
  It won them that so and Willie Mays was on deck and it was a
• 3:02:15
  rookie. It's like funny to think that,
• 3:02:16
  but Bobby Thompson was the one that did it.
• 3:02:18
  I do like the Leitner one too. That might have been my third
• 3:02:20
  one if I was going for that too. But Jackie Robinson, like
• 3:02:22
  obviously the historical value, he would have to go with that as
• 3:02:24
  well. And Sebastian, to round it out,
• 3:02:29
  explain your vote. I mean, I guess in a in a free
• 3:02:32
  country you would not have to explain the vote.
• 3:02:34
  But this is some kind of wack ass dictatorship what we're
• 3:02:37
  doing here. Well, I think since Arrow
• 3:02:41
  already has three votes and I got to stick with my boy Jared
• 3:02:45
  because he is an intern just like me, us interns have to
• 3:02:48
  stick together. I'm.
• 3:02:50
  AI did like Tom Brady pool. I was surprised I wasn't one of
• 3:02:54
  the first ones said in the first round.
• 3:02:56
  So I'm going to. Sebastian, it would have been a
• 3:02:57
  clean sweep. What are you doing to me?
• 3:02:59
  I know, I know. I hate to be the.
• 3:03:01
  Ones to ruin it, but I also hate to be the guy that had the
• 3:03:03
  chance to open their novel. All right.
• 3:03:07
  Well, you, Errol, you are the king.
• 3:03:10
  The king stays the king. You know, everyone tried to take
• 3:03:15
  you down a peg. It wasn't going to happen.
• 3:03:17
  It was, it's interesting and I, I, I think Jared is one of the
• 3:03:21
  more knowledgeable guys that we've had as far as interns are
• 3:03:25
  concerned. His takes, even the rock.
• 3:03:28
  You brought the rock up. I that was, that was definitely
• 3:03:30
  out of the back pocket. Yeah, that was out of the
• 3:03:32
  pocket. I I didn't expect that.
• 3:03:35
  And and you're not wrong. I mean, as far as stars and the
• 3:03:39
  transition and what he's done in the industry, you're absolutely
• 3:03:44
  right. So that's why I gave you the I
• 3:03:46
  would have probably picked you, I would have picked you any way,
• 3:03:50
  shape or form when it came to that anyway.
• 3:03:52
  So that's just my opinion. So congratulations.
• 3:03:56
  I thought that was your first final and very credible.
• 3:03:59
  I do think I swept you, but that's just me.
• 3:04:02
  I don't know what Sebastian's doing over.
• 3:04:03
  There. Oh, I think you did too.
• 3:04:05
  I was looking at Michael Phelps. That was something that really
• 3:04:09
  stood out Tiger Woods doing. I got 1 where you got the ball,
• 3:04:14
  get stuck to the helmet. There was this crazy play Once
• 3:04:17
  Upon a time. Yeah.
• 3:04:17
  I remember. You heard about it, Errol?
• 3:04:19
  Yeah, I heard about it, man. I almost just pander to y'all
• 3:04:23
  pick that. Yeah, if you probably would
• 3:04:25
  have, fish would have picked you if you did that, you would, but.
• 3:04:28
  I went away with that. Yeah, fish is only did the king.
• 3:04:32
  Not about. It's not like I've only been the
• 3:04:35
  king once, I've been a proxy king.
• 3:04:37
  Once for goodie. But you know, Jared, you know,
• 3:04:42
  you just got a Curry favor to the voters.
• 3:04:44
  That's what it's about. You've got to be a politician.
• 3:04:47
  I don't Curry any favoritism to anybody.
• 3:04:50
  I just tell you. Curry, I get it.
• 3:04:52
  You know, I know you don't like any of that guy.
• 3:04:54
  Sebastian, you'll learn very quickly.
• 3:04:56
  I don't hate. Why do you guys say this?
• 3:04:59
  I don't hate him. I think he's a great play when
• 3:05:03
  he is a great point guard guard. Get a Curry jersey and wear.
• 3:05:07
  It I'm not doing it. I do have a Curry jersey and I
• 3:05:09
  have worn it on the show. I have they made a mistake.
• 3:05:12
  So I ordered a Curry. I ordered a regular Warriors
• 3:05:16
  nude the 3rd and and and they gave me a Curry jersey.
• 3:05:19
  So I wore the Curry jersey when it was it should have been my
• 3:05:22
  number and my name. And then I yelled at the company
• 3:05:25
  and they were like, well, that's what we sent you, you little
• 3:05:27
  bastards. I'm never ordering nothing from
• 3:05:29
  you again. So that's the truth.
• 3:05:31
  I'm just telling the truth here, ladies and gentlemen.
• 3:05:35
  Anyways, we call this and you can join us too, Sebastian, we
• 3:05:39
  call this. What's that smell?
• 3:05:41
  Hold. Up What is that smell?
• 3:05:44
  What's that smell? Wow, you don't see that every
• 3:05:52
  day. Noble fisting.
• 3:05:56
  I love that one. That's definitely something if
• 3:05:58
  nobody knows what it is. I don't think Nathan knows what
• 3:06:00
  it is, but it's still good I having him say these things and
• 3:06:04
  he's got 2 noises. He know that, he's saying.
• 3:06:07
  He says he knows them. I don't believe it because I've
• 3:06:10
  asked him what double fisting is and he says you know what it is.
• 3:06:13
  I said no, you tell me what is it?
• 3:06:17
  How old is Nathan? He, Nathan, is 293030303030.
• 3:06:22
  He's 30 years old, I think. Yeah, he turned 30.
• 3:06:25
  Yep, 30 years old, Speedy's age. They're a buck button.
• 3:06:31
  Right. You've never been prepared for
• 3:06:33
  this, so we're not going to ask you to go right away or
• 3:06:36
  anything. He could if you want.
• 3:06:37
  Join in you can. How's he going to do it?
• 3:06:39
  He's not even know what it is. He can pick a story.
• 3:06:41
  Listen, all you got to do is pick any story.
• 3:06:43
  In sports, it's so easy. It is easy pick.
• 3:06:46
  I don't even know what I'm going, where I'm going.
• 3:06:49
  But. That's you.
• 3:06:51
  Sebastian, I think you're a winner and winners know how to
• 3:06:55
  do this. So show us and show Coach Fish
• 3:06:59
  that you are a winner. Sebastian, don't worry about
• 3:07:03
  him. Let him spit out whatever he
• 3:07:04
  says. There's never, there's never
• 3:07:07
  been a great winner that's not prepared.
• 3:07:09
  Look at all the great athletes. They all prepared.
• 3:07:12
  Thank. You not me not.
• 3:07:14
  Me. What's the order, Errol?
• 3:07:15
  All right, I'm going to Sebastian.
• 3:07:17
  You could join if you want. It's it's OK.
• 3:07:19
  I'm going to go Speedy. I'm going to go Mr. Jarrett,
• 3:07:24
  Fish, Sebastian, if you want to do it job of me, yeah.
• 3:07:29
  I mean I. Don't know what we're doing, but
• 3:07:30
  I'll do it. Just pick a story.
• 3:07:32
  Pick a story of like something you want to take a shot at a
• 3:07:35
  team, a player or anything like that and.
• 3:07:37
  It can be good or bad. Go to a bad.
• 3:07:39
  So for example, I'm going to go with.
• 3:07:41
  Using my new interns. The saga of Bill Belichick's
• 3:07:46
  college season still not going very well and there's many
• 3:07:48
  different layers to it too. But the most recent one is David
• 3:07:52
  Hale was the ESPN insider that said multiple anonymous
• 3:07:55
  offensive coordinator saying that Bill Belichick does not
• 3:07:58
  understand the RPO and motion offenses in college football.
• 3:08:02
  You see today, even these group of five schools that have these
• 3:08:05
  lesser known coaches, these obviously the lesser known teams
• 3:08:08
  are calling Belichick out on it. Meanwhile, you also have a
• 3:08:12
  documentary by Hulu that already got cancelled and it's going to
• 3:08:14
  be pushed to the end of the season.
• 3:08:15
  Well, like, you want to see Bill Belichick's track record of how
• 3:08:18
  awful this season has been. And to make matters worse, UNC
• 3:08:22
  alum and new Patriots quarterback Drake May was banned
• 3:08:25
  from anything involving the documentary just to play some
• 3:08:28
  petty wars at that. So what does it smell like?
• 3:08:31
  It smells like Robert Kraft in his spa, in his spa, smoking
• 3:08:35
  some of that pink cocaine that Stefan Diggs is smoking and then
• 3:08:40
  making out with Jordan Hudson's mother.
• 3:08:42
  Droba droba ass licker all. Right, Sebastian, we're just
• 3:08:47
  going to let you know that Speedy like his, what's it smell
• 3:08:50
  like always goes like to a different atmosphere.
• 3:08:54
  So don't try to live up to that because you'll notice that ours
• 3:08:57
  what it smells like way, not that.
• 3:09:00
  Jabba liked my shrimp cocktail. Mine's short.
• 3:09:03
  Mine's actually a good one. This he likes some short, very
• 3:09:05
  short. Dog tall I was.
• 3:09:15
  I was gonna. I was gonna.
• 3:09:17
  Well, you're you're. You're second.
• 3:09:18
  Alas. 510 1/2 Joke but. Yeah, figures you would go that
• 3:09:23
  route. Suck my indo.
• 3:09:25
  As I always say. Athletes.
• 3:09:28
  Joba is not an athlete. I'm not going to talk about Jock
• 3:09:33
  because I figure that's not good for my health right now.
• 3:09:36
  Instead, this is kind of brought to my attention by the
• 3:09:38
  basketball coach at the school I work at.
• 3:09:41
  There are a lot of professional athletes, guys with professional
• 3:09:45
  experience overseas or even in the States that are currently
• 3:09:48
  playing college basketball. Shortlist here.
• 3:09:51
  I got Elias Cameron Dean, who played professionally in France
• 3:09:54
  on the top level of French basketball last year as a
• 3:09:56
  rotational guy. He's at Ole Miss right now.
• 3:10:00
  Mioclis Abdallas played at the top Greek, one of the top Greek
• 3:10:04
  clubs last year. He's played in the Euro League
• 3:10:06
  itself for last four years. He's only 19, but he's been a
• 3:10:11
  professional for four years. He's playing at Virginia Tech
• 3:10:13
  and this worst one is this guy Lyndon Johnson, who committed to
• 3:10:18
  Louisville recently. He played four year in the G
• 3:10:22
  League. He was playing professional
• 3:10:23
  technically NBA level basketball and is somehow playing college
• 3:10:27
  basketball now because he's technically only 21 years old.
• 3:10:30
  So he still counts and he hasn't played NBA.
• 3:10:33
  What's it smell like? Because so many of these guys
• 3:10:35
  come from France, It smells like the French stinky cheese EPO,
• 3:10:39
  say, which is currently banned on public transport because it
• 3:10:42
  smells so bad. Yeah, that you sounded French
• 3:10:46
  when you said that. Oh, you start.
• 3:10:49
  You sounded fringe. You sounded fringe.
• 3:10:52
  That's the that is definitely the Nebraska Enya fringe.
• 3:10:57
  Fringe. Yeah, I had to have that.
• 3:10:59
  I just. Had to.
• 3:11:00
  Carl plays with himself. It's too bad Goodies not here.
• 3:11:03
  This one was really for him and his Orlando Magic.
• 3:11:06
  Drove Mercedes. Guard Desmond Bane was ejected
• 3:11:11
  in the third quarter. Can't.
• 3:11:13
  Wait, the Hawks flagrant foul on a congu, he has to go up against
• 3:11:19
  the center. He pulls them down by the arm
• 3:11:21
  and as he's going down, the ball pops up.
• 3:11:23
  He takes the other hand and palms the ball and spikes the
• 3:11:26
  ball on a congu. As he's going to the going down
• 3:11:30
  to the floor, he gets ejected. He loses his mind.
• 3:11:34
  He and this is his approach afterwards, hard foul.
• 3:11:38
  I mean, we talk about that. No easy baskets, nothing at the
• 3:11:42
  rim, make them see lights on the ceiling and hard foul.
• 3:11:47
  I swiped at the ball and it happened to hit him and they
• 3:11:50
  made the call. They made this.
• 3:11:53
  I love this guy. I would be so happy if Desmond
• 3:11:58
  Bain was on my team. It reminds me of the Bane from
• 3:12:02
  the Batman movie The Dark Knight Rises who thought darkness was
• 3:12:08
  his ally. God.
• 3:12:13
  Well, my. Favorite Grizzlies ever?
• 3:12:16
  What does it smell like? Well, in that darkness, it
• 3:12:21
  smells like the crap you get when you're walking home in the
• 3:12:23
  dark with your dog and you stepped in something and you get
• 3:12:26
  that whiff as soon as you step. First whiff when you step in the
• 3:12:29
  house and you know what you have to do and spend the next 1520
• 3:12:33
  minutes cleaning. That's what it smells like.
• 3:12:35
  Finkle is on horn, all right, Sebastian, you want to go for
• 3:12:39
  it. You want to.
• 3:12:40
  You want to knock it out of the park.
• 3:12:41
  You don't have to if you don't want to.
• 3:12:43
  I mean, I'll try my best. I mean, I would have liked to
• 3:12:45
  have a little bit of back. You could try try man.
• 3:12:48
  All good, but I'm a winger, I'm a winger.
• 3:12:50
  Let's go. So I'm going to go.
• 3:12:52
  I'll talk about someone that we mentioned earlier today, Mr.
• 3:12:55
  LeBron James. He's obviously he's been out
• 3:12:57
  this season with the injury on his own.
• 3:13:00
  The Lakers are six and two right now.
• 3:13:02
  Actually, they're playing the Spurs currently as we are live
• 3:13:05
  right now. They are 6 and two without them.
• 3:13:07
  There's rumors that they're starting to move without his
• 3:13:10
  knowledge because that was we all know LeBron likes to meddle
• 3:13:13
  in the front office. He likes to meddle with the
• 3:13:14
  roster. He likes they can use his team.
• 3:13:17
  So now the Lakers see that they can be Ballers without LeBron.
• 3:13:24
  Can LeBron stay with the Lakers throughout the season?
• 3:13:27
  Will he asked for a trade? That that's that's my story that
• 3:13:31
  I've been following. What does that smell like, man?
• 3:13:35
  It smells like Lebron's time is up, and it smells like his time
• 3:13:38
  is up. That's good you you went with
• 3:13:41
  the right angle. Yeah, that's good.
• 3:13:44
  That was really good. That's not bad.
• 3:13:46
  I thought you were going to say like, you know, like the garbage
• 3:13:50
  with all the wasted food at Bronies, Sweet Sixteens, you
• 3:13:53
  know, something or other. But you know.
• 3:13:58
  The best one in this game, Bronny tried to guard women Yama
• 3:14:02
  and he literally like women Yama body brownie up.
• 3:14:06
  I got to go find that. That's saying a lot.
• 3:14:10
  All right, I think you're up Java.
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  Mine's a good one and I, I think, you know, obviously we,
• 3:14:14
  we usually go on the smelly side and then the really integral
• 3:14:20
  deep dotted smelly side with Speedy.
• 3:14:22
  But I thought something was really cool.
• 3:14:24
  It's never been done in sports where a father and a son called
• 3:14:29
  a World Series for the first time ever and Dan Shulman and
• 3:14:32
  Ben Shulman and radio and TV and they got to do it together for
• 3:14:36
  the first time ever. It father and son.
• 3:14:38
  You can you can say that that's never been done and something
• 3:14:41
  that you know your kid gets into profession that you always do
• 3:14:44
  and then you end up getting to do a World Series with him.
• 3:14:47
  So what's that smell that smells like?
• 3:14:49
  Hard work, dedication and being as a father myself, a damn proud
• 3:14:54
  dad, to be able to work alongside your son and, and call
• 3:14:57
  something they didn't go their way, but had to be a proud
• 3:15:00
  moment as a father. That to watch that and see it
• 3:15:03
  and get a call a game on the booth next to him for for where
• 3:15:08
  you're from and and to see it all in front and through your
• 3:15:12
  son's eyes and your own eyes, which is pretty cool.
• 3:15:14
  I got to go back off now all. Right.
• 3:15:17
  And now my what's that smell? It has to go to a game, a
• 3:15:22
  surprise game on Sunday and, well, a fine.
• 3:15:27
  It wasn't a suspension. It was a fine.
• 3:15:29
  Carolina Panthers running back Rico Dowdell was fined by the
• 3:15:33
  NFL for his actions during a touchdown celebration in in
• 3:15:37
  Sunday's 16 to 13 upset of the Green Bay Packers at Lambeau
• 3:15:42
  Field. Dowdell announced the fine via
• 3:15:44
  social media on Wednesday night. He also posted he has partnered
• 3:15:49
  with GoFundMe to use his fine money for charity and his agent
• 3:15:57
  came out and said the fine was 14,400 91 dollars.
• 3:16:04
  See, that's the stupidest thing ever.
• 3:16:06
  Where did this number come from? I don't know, I guess I got to
• 3:16:10
  go. I, we got to reach out to his
• 3:16:12
  agent, David Cantor. Maybe he'll tell us.
• 3:16:14
  I have no idea. But I it it it from one bad
• 3:16:19
  thing turns into good. And I, I love what dad, you
• 3:16:23
  know, the fact that he is taking the bad and putting it into good
• 3:16:27
  for a GoFundMe, you know, for, for people and charity.
• 3:16:31
  I think that's, that's a great story.
• 3:16:33
  So you know what it smells like? It smells like Speedy's moth
• 3:16:37
  ball sweater getting sprayed down with some Axe spray and
• 3:16:42
  giving it a better scent because man, oh man, it is a horrible
• 3:16:46
  grandmother smell to it. So that's what it smells like.
• 3:16:49
  So you like that, Speedy, You know, you want me to get you
• 3:16:53
  some Axe spray? No, I mean, I'm going to get you
• 3:16:56
  a. You can get him something better
• 3:16:57
  than Axe, Come on. I'll give him Cologne, but he's
• 3:17:00
  never going to wear it. I have Cologne.
• 3:17:04
  Well, spray it down, man. Smells like mothballs.
• 3:17:11
  You do look good in that white shirt.
• 3:17:12
  I can't lie to you. I mean, that is mine.
• 3:17:14
  You can't steal that. I wasn't planning on it.
• 3:17:17
  You could have it. You could have.
• 3:17:18
  It that's the extra medium. No, actually, it's an extra
• 3:17:21
  large, SO I wear extra large T-shirts.
• 3:17:26
  So I'm just so you know. Anyways, yeah, that Rico Dattle
• 3:17:31
  story was just obnoxious. For the NFL to do something to a
• 3:17:34
  player that's one of the hottest plays right now in football and
• 3:17:38
  he's doing. Used to have two pumps.
• 3:17:40
  You're supposed to be able to do 2 pumps, not three.
• 3:17:42
  I get he only gave 2 and they find him.
• 3:17:44
  That's wrong. That's wrong.
• 3:17:45
  That doesn't make any sense. But you know, it's the NFL and
• 3:17:48
  that's why he's using it for good.
• 3:17:51
  And I like that. By Rico and Boyle, oh, boy, are
• 3:17:55
  the Cowboys shaking their heads because this guy is becoming a
• 3:17:59
  star under, you know, under a new tutelage.
• 3:18:03
  So I like it. I like the story.
• 3:18:05
  It's a good one. Anyways, that's it.
• 3:18:08
  Thank you for all the fans. Thank you to our new intern,
• 3:18:12
  Sebastian, for joining us and giving his takes.
• 3:18:15
  I mean, look at that. I mean, home run with what's
• 3:18:18
  that smell? I can't lie to you.
• 3:18:20
  Thank you to a former 14 year NBA referee and author of the
• 3:18:25
  book that we've been promoting, Personal Foul, Tim Donaghy for
• 3:18:29
  joining us. He was fantastic.
• 3:18:31
  He really gave us his take and it was a great get and I thought
• 3:18:35
  it was a great interview. It really was.
• 3:18:36
  It was sensational. He really gave us what we were
• 3:18:39
  looking for. And he wants to knock out David
• 3:18:41
  Stern. If David Stern was still alive,
• 3:18:43
  that would be something I would set up.
• 3:18:45
  I would be the referee of that match.
• 3:18:47
  I would love it. And then I asked him if he was
• 3:18:51
  the judge of this particular case with Chauncey Phillips, Mr.
• 3:18:58
  you know, Mr. Rozier and Mr. Jones, what would you do to him?
• 3:19:02
  And, and you heard what he said. You got to listen to the
• 3:19:04
  interview if you want to know what his thoughts was to that.
• 3:19:07
  I don't think he's ever had a question like that before.
• 3:19:10
  And it was pretty funny. And he actually smirked.
• 3:19:14
  I got him to smirk. He straight face the whole time.
• 3:19:18
  I finally got him to smirk. So it's a good thing.
• 3:19:21
  So and and he'll come on the show again.
• 3:19:23
  I'm going to get his book and I'm going to read his book and
• 3:19:25
  and we'll go in the outs of the book.
• 3:19:27
  It was a great show. Thank you to all the fans
• 3:19:29
  following us on Spotify and Apple, a obviously YouTube.
• 3:19:34
  Yeah, we're growing on all the social medias while on Reddit to
• 3:19:38
  jab in the mouth and we have all our stories on Reddit right now
• 3:19:42
  and it's actually growing. It's it's really, really good.
• 3:19:45
  Go check out my stories, my Joel and beat stories sensational.
• 3:19:47
  I'm not lying to you. It's funny.
• 3:19:49
  It's definitely my humor. If you you like the humor on
• 3:19:52
  this show, you definitely have to read the stories.
• 3:19:54
  They're they're they are funny. I put a lot of time into it.
• 3:19:57
  So you definitely get the the personality part to it.
• 3:20:02
  And Schaefer, if you're an Islander fan and you want to
• 3:20:05
  hear my beanbag thoughts to John Tavares, you definitely got to
• 3:20:10
  read that story as well as Speedy was laughing to it the
• 3:20:12
  whole time. Speedy, You like that one,
• 3:20:14
  right? Speedy?
• 3:20:16
  Yeah. Yeah, well, speak up, man.
• 3:20:17
  What's wrong with you? You have a thumb up your wrist.
• 3:20:19
  I'm trying to not to spoil it for them.
• 3:20:20
  Well, they gotta read it. They have to read it.
• 3:20:23
  Yeah, they gotta read it. And anyways, yeah, it's been a
• 3:20:26
  great one. Speedy, who do we have on
• 3:20:28
  Monday? All right, returning to the show
• 3:20:29
  is the daughter of Jack Burke. We just had on last week.
• 3:20:33
  And Ally Burke, She is a singer. She's a pop singer.
• 3:20:35
  Can we get her to sing on the show?
• 3:20:37
  You can try. Could I?
• 3:20:39
  Could I be a backup singer? So Jabba, the last time we had
• 3:20:42
  her on was before you were with us.
• 3:20:44
  She actually sang the national anthem at many different MLB
• 3:20:47
  ballparks. And coming up, November 6,
• 3:20:49
  Buffalo Bills, you'll be singing at the Buffalo Bills game.
• 3:20:53
  Yeah. And, and Ally's first of all,
• 3:20:56
  she's a big Josh Allen fan. So this is something that she's
• 3:21:00
  probably going to be like, oh, you know, like I would do.
• 3:21:04
  Yeah. I mean, if I was a Josh Allen
• 3:21:05
  fan. I am a Josh Allen fan, by the
• 3:21:06
  way. But I I did get a jersey.
• 3:21:08
  I can't lie to you guys. But tonight I'm a Danny Dimes
• 3:21:12
  fan as Danny D is rocking all night long, Speedy, Sing it all
• 3:21:18
  night long. Come on, sing it, Speedy.
• 3:21:20
  Come on, come on, come on. That's the best.
• 3:21:28
  I mean, who? Who can?
• 3:21:30
  There you go. A little rat, rat attack right
• 3:21:33
  there, baby. Delicious, edible.
• 3:21:35
  And I don't know why he's has his tongue out.
• 3:21:38
  I don't know why. And my face is like deformed.
• 3:21:41
  Like what the hell is that? Am I growing like an?
• 3:21:45
  Extra That's good. That's that's a good.
• 3:21:48
  One that's pretty close. Pretty close.
• 3:21:50
  Yeah, it's really. Close.
• 3:21:51
  My face is not deformed. Come on.
• 3:21:54
  It's a cartoon version of you. Yeah, I guess I I'm not a big
• 3:21:59
  fan of it so, but you can, you can tell it's fantastic.
• 3:22:03
  Well, thank you, Jabba. Because it's not some bald head
• 3:22:07
  6 foot three, you know, Blue. Go whale.
• 3:22:11
  You know, I'm just kidding anyways.
• 3:22:17
  Give me that chicken Curry. I could use some chicken Curry
• 3:22:19
  right now or something because I'm a pretty hungry and maybe
• 3:22:23
  Applebee's some half. Price you never.
• 3:22:25
  Eat chicken Curry. No, I wouldn't.
• 3:22:26
  Never. No.
• 3:22:27
  Never. Do you want to jerk me off?
• 3:22:29
  Well, definitely not Nathan, and that's probably what are.
• 3:22:32
  You did you? Is Applebee's open by you?
• 3:22:35
  Yeah, it is 100%. It's open.
• 3:22:38
  What time is it speedy? Yeah, we're we're we're good.
• 3:22:41
  We we we can make it. But yeah, thank you to the fans.
• 3:22:45
  Anything on Wednesday Yes, we do have 8:45.
• 3:22:48
  I don't know if you faced him Jabba.
• 3:22:49
  He was a little came in the league a little after you joined
• 3:22:52
  Logan. Logan Morrison yes, he played
• 3:22:54
  with the Marlins, the this Mariners.
• 3:22:56
  I think he might have faced him maybe in the American League
• 3:22:58
  later on with the Rays as well. So maybe you faced him a little
• 3:23:00
  bit, but. Mostly, he's a He's an
• 3:23:02
  interesting bird. Yes.
• 3:23:04
  Aren't we all? Aren't we all?
• 3:23:06
  Including he's, he's, he's there, there.
• 3:23:09
  No. So let's bird away, speedy.
• 3:23:11
  Give me a 11 sound before we go. Give me like a bird sound.
• 3:23:15
  Give me a nice bird sound. Oh, that's a good one.
• 3:23:21
  Solid right there. Wow, that was that was good
• 3:23:25
  Speedy. That was, I'm losing myself, you
• 3:23:28
  know, I might have lost some. Something probably popped out a
• 3:23:32
  little bit, you know, a little turtle head.
• 3:23:33
  Anyways, that's it for a show. We'll talk to you next week.
• 3:23:35
  Good night everybody. You're listening to the
• 3:23:38
  Worldwide Sports Radio Network.