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#676: Long Live Liberland! · Macroaggressions

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  I just got back from Liberland the Free Republic of Liberland
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  What a trip. I mean, I'm I'm digging the Balkans area, right? You know, this is this was I'd never been to the
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  former Yugoslavia until
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  this summer in June I went on a family trip to Croatia which was
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  Delightful and and highly recommend the country in general the people in particular are fantastic
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  And I just I had a great experience there
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  And so it was funny that you know not having been in that region at all and then going twice in two months is
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  Kind of unusual, but I was scheduled to be the stage manager and be a speaker at
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  Liberpoko in Serbia and I took them up on that offer and I'm glad I did because
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  It's just the most I mean it's just the most interesting shit going on
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  You know at these conferences you meet people who are doing
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  They're doing things that are outside of the system
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  You know what I mean? They're there's there's a there's a little bit of complaining about the way the system is developed
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  And but then the majority of the focus of people's energy and time is oh
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  We're not even messing with that old system. We built this new one that's outside of it and we're we're happier
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  This way so what I want to do is I want to talk to you a little bit about Liberland
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  What it is why they?
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  Established it what's going on there you can be a part of it you can run a business through there
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  There's reasons for wanting to run your business or Lieberland and it's taxation related and I'm gonna get to that
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  I'll talk about a little bit of the history of it is interesting like how it came to be like these guys are
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  These are Bitcoin guys that said fuck this we are gonna build our own country and I'll be damned if they didn't do it
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  and it's in it's pretty awesome and
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  And and when you see the plans for the future, you know, you you you believe them
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  You believe them because these guys are builders these guys are doing things differently
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  So I want to go through all that I'll mention a little bit about Ark Village, which is where we were in Apperton
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  Serbia and no we were looking for
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  Nicola Jokic from the Denver Nuggets. He's there. He's lives in in Sombor, which is where one of the hotels were
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  Where people were coming and going so we were out. I know he was there. He's riding his bike around going to the bakery
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  He was showing up on social media. So we weren't trying to stalk him
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  But for those of you basketball fans, they're like, I know that you're just from Serbia. Did you go to his hometown?
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  Yeah, we did actually we were looking for him and everybody says that he's super approachable
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  Not that we were not that I was gonna pester or anything
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  But we didn't wind up seeing him so but I do want to talk to you about who was there at
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  Lieberpolko and
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  It was a banging lineup
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  Great lineup. I had enough time this you know this time around
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  I'm running around like a maniac during a narco polko. It's tough to talk to everybody that I want to
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  But I had a little bit more time
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  For Lieberpolko and it was great. I got to talk to everybody and then we'll wrap up with with what they're doing
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  And what you know, there's solutions to this there. There's some there was some interesting health solutions
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  There were some crypto guys doing things. So we'll talk a little bit about this
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  But if you are unfamiliar
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  You know, it's it's it's a little bit of a dilemma here because I'm anti-state, you know
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  I am of the belief that the state is a huge problem and and frankly they prove me right
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  daily and
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  and so the idea of
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  creating a new state is
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  Initially
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  Kind of incompatible with my belief system. I don't I I'm looking for fewer states
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  Not a not more states
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  But I also kind of understand where they're coming from now
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  I fully understand where they're coming from they are they are trying to play
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  This game with one foot in the system and one foot out
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  So the foot in the system is doing the things that you need to do to become a country
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  Right and the the legality of that and the hoops you have to jump through and the you know
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  The hands you have to shake and things like that. Luckily, this is the right crew. They're not they're not out
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  They're looking to start this country because they're trying to make money from it. They're not trying to start a war
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  It's not some it's not some piece of land that they took in a coup or anything like that like, you know, so like
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  the land itself is
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  Peaceful and free and there's no encumbrances on it and there's no drama with it
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  There's a little bit of it a little bit of drama coming from the Croatia side. I'll explain what that is but
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  But these guys have decided there if we're gonna live in a world
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  Where they're of statism
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  Then let's see if we can do the state better, right?
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  so again, I am
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  I lean more towards
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  The system is broken. Let's build a different system. They are coming at it from the system is broken
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  Let's still play inside the system
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  But let's build a country that's way better and then inspire people to change after they see what we've done
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  So I can understand it's just it's two ways of coming at the problem
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  And in fact, you know one of the best presentations I ever saw at a narco polko was from maxi again
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  By the way, we're gonna get into that because he did he did two presentations here
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  And it's he did a very important second presentation
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  I'll get into why it was important and it had to do with the conference itself
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  But the first presentation I saw from max at several years ago was it was was the theme was
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  How do you navigate this world where you see these
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  Inadequacies and these in the the state being
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  Insane maniacs and how do you how do you navigate this system? Everybody wants to leave the system and max's
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  Philosophy is sometimes you have to have one foot in
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  You know sometimes that you yes, we want to have both feet out
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  But sometimes you have to have one foot in because if you need to travel they're gonna check your travel documents
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  Right, so you need to get a passport
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  But you need to have the right passport and there's certain ways in which you can deal with the TSA in which you minimize your
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  exposure to their to their digital pictures and things like that so
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  You have to play their game a little bit if you're going to be mobile in that regard
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  But within that there's ways to play it in which it benefits you there's things you can opt out from obviously
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  I always opt out of the pat or the body scanners at TSA. I opt out of the
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  Photograph that they want to take when the guy before you do the body scanners when he's checking your ID
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  You can opt out of that
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  There's signs there that says so you know one foot in one foot out
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  I had to get on a plane fly halfway across the world to go to this conference
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  So I've got to go through TSA
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  Do I like the TSA? No, I despise them
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  So I'm not I'm not friendly with them. I do the minimum
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  I say the fewest words possible to them when I can and
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  Go on about my business, but
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  So I get where they're coming from
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  And it's an interesting concept, you know this this let's talk
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  So let's talk about the Free Republic of Liberland aka Liberland was established on 18 or April 13th
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  2015 so just a little bit over ten years ago, and it was formed as a sovereign state between
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  It's between Croatia and Serbia
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  on the West Bank of the Danube River and it is referred to in the maps as
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  Gorinja Siga
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  g-o-r-n-j-a first word last word
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  S-i-g-a so that's what it that's its name. That's its
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  Serbian name if you see it on the map. It's been unclaimed
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  since the breakup of the former Yugoslavia, it's
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  It's essentially uninhabit it's tech it's legally inhabited because it needs to be but it is
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  Essentially uninhabited because there's nothing there, but what you bring to the island, right?
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  So if you're you can you go there and camp, you know, there's not gonna be any roads
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  There's not gonna be any power. There's not gonna be any infrastructure. It is it's an island with nothing on it for the purposes of
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  Achieving statehood you have to have permanent residents
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  so there's there's residents that are that are considered permanent because they camp there and
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  There are others who can are considered
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  Inhabitants because they stay on a boat that's docked off of that's right off the shore so it's it's a
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  It's a small island. It's seven square kilometers, which makes it the third smallest
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  Sovereign state in the world behind the Vatican and Monaco, although I got to say I think that's wrong
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  I think that stat is actually wrong. They never mentioned the Bank for International Settlements, which is actually the smallest one. It's
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  It's in Bezel, Switzerland
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  It's where the it's a central bank of central banks and that is its own city-state and so that building technically is smaller
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  I think so according to the internet, they'll say that that Liberland is the third smallest behind the Vatican and Monaco, but you know
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  The old BIS is there
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  What is their motto go fuck yourself? No, I'm kidding. That'd be funny if it was no there their motto is to to live and let live
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  you know, they're very libertarian in their leanings and
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  The which is the reason why they have been recognized by Ron Paul. They've also been recognized by Javier Malay and of course
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  We have some problems with Javier Malay
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  Kind of kind of a funny kind of a I guess it's somewhat funny bit
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  that the president of Liberland was was doing a presentation like an
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  Opening presentation and he was talking about, you know all the progress they've made and that the recognition of
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  By Argentina and Javier Malay and how that was a good thing and then he gets off the stage and Maxie even goes up the first first presentation
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  it doesn't he hadn't heard vits speech just kind of walked in after it and
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  Immediately starts in on what a cunt Javier Malay the whole place just started laughing. It was great
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  You know, it's typical Maxie you can get that got a good laugh out of it, too
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  He's like hey listen man, you know, I can't defend the guy all the way
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  He's like I like that Liberland is being recognized by Javier Malay
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  But yes, we recognize there are some problems with Javier Malay putting his hand on the wall
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  You know, you know where I'm talking about so
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  Their language the language of Liberland is English the currency is Bitcoin the official flag is
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  Like a yellow flag with a with a coat of arms and there's a state seal and you get to see all these things
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  First time I saw the Liberland flag was actually on Berwick's boat when we were in Acapulco together
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  And I was like hey what flag is that? That's clearly not the flag of Mexico. It's the flag of Liberland as a matter of fact
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  I was like oh
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  so
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  You know if you're into flags if you're a flag it and you and you're into it
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  They've got you know legal Liberlands got their own flag. It looks you know fine as far as flags go
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  I'm sure there's some so I don't I didn't actually get the meaning of each of the components of the seal
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  But I'm sure like any
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  Like any good country. There's a story behind it, right?
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  There is and there's an official anthem which is not the official anthem that
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  Dominic Frisbee insisted that we all sing when he did a sing-along there during
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  At night during one of the concerts that he was doing
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  his was more of like a goof on on on anthems the
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  Organizational structure is something that is known as de jour dee
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  j u re this is
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  Constitutional Republic with elements of a direct democracy. Okay, that's the way they set it up and the secondary
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  Organizational structure is called de facto
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  provisional
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  Deuocracy government chaired by the president. It's not a democracy. It's a do
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  Ocracy
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  It's it's about whether you're doing something or not. It's you get the vote
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  You can earn merits
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  You can become a citizen of Liberland by earning a certain number of merits and you earn merits by working by doing things
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  So they call it a doocracy because they want you to do things. These are builders
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  These are not people sitting around waiting for handouts from the state. They're looking to build their own version of it
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  With you know, that's ideologically aligned to the things that they believe in which is freedom and liberty and self-governance and self-termination and
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  and you know the non-aggression principle and nobody's looking to
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  Steal the land and this land isn't ultimately disputed. So
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  That's the way they see things, you know, and I can I can you know, listen if you gotta get on board with the government
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  And you don't I suppose maybe these days
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  Fuck I guess you have to if you want to live and deal with it
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  This is a government that is at least coming at
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  At the problems from the you know
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  Helping the people and now you could get corrupted, you know, maybe in the future
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  there could be some sort of bad actors that get involved and try and do things of course you you
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  You should expect that you should
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  Anticipate fuckery I would I would expect it in the future, but so far so good
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  And and I don't know that there's right now. It's only been it's been limited to
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  Croatia being a bit dickish about
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  their thoughts on this on on the island, but
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  Let's talk a little bit about the government the president of it
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  Jedlishka, he's he's cool as hell man. I've met I've gotten to know him over the years
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  introduced him to the stage in
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  Mexico for an archipelago several several times in fact, which is fun because you know you're in Mexico
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  So you get to do the oh Presidente
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  and do all that whole thing and you know and
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  He's a he's an interesting dude. He's taken a liking to me and Christian Jordan of over the years
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  Which is great, you know, we see and we were talking about I I did a
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  Presentation I did a kids camp at an archipelago one year where I just I went for two hours and met with all
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  The kids were doing their their workshop
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  So I was talking about book publishing and vits out in with me and he had a million questions, too
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  So it was me
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  like six or seven
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  Young kids and the president of Liberland talking about the book publishing. So
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  But cool guy interesting guy, you know, you got to be you got to be wired
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  Certain way to be the president, you know, you got to be a guy that's kind of a little bit of a bulldog and
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  Not not gonna get too overly concerned about people's feelings
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  I mean, I don't think that guy's gonna be putting any band-aids on your on your scraped knee anytime soon
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  He's got shit to do but I really like his energy and and I like the upper management of
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  Upper management government. I don't know what upper government. I don't know. What do we call them the?
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  The well the minister of foreign affairs Thomas Walls
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  Again, these guys I've gotten to know over the years
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  They they come to all the in or Kapoko events. This was the first time I made it to Serbia, of course
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  But but we've you know, we've gone out to dinners and things like that. So over the years
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  Hey, buddy, how are you? Good to see you again. So you're the minister of foreign affairs
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  I don't know in my mind the minister of foreign affairs is some
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  status lunatic who's gonna tell me about how
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  I'm in trouble for something and then you meet their minister of foreign affairs
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  And you want to go have a beer with them, you know, they're just great guys
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  minister of finance
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  Navid as Sabrin he and I spoke we had a we were at this great brunch on
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  This the final day after just after the conference it ended
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  They did a big brunch for a bunch of us and we and I hung out with him. He's the finance minister and
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  They based in Luxembourg and goes back and forth and these guys are bit coiners hardcore bit coiners, you know from the start
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  Secretary of State Tariq Abasi, he couldn't make it. I was I was I was looking for him met him over the years
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  But he couldn't he couldn't make it
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  so, you know if you if you're gonna judge the country by the
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  by the
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  leaders
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  We got good leaders there. I like them on a on a personal level talking to them
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  They are ideologically aligned with the things that I believe in you know that
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  Nobody has a greater right to yourself than you the state doesn't have a have a shouldn't have an interest in
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  Determining your affairs. If you're not doing anything wrong, you shouldn't have to worry about the government coming after you
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  These guys are builders though. They've built companies. They've built
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  They've been a part of things over the years. So that's the reason why they are uniquely qualified for this
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  so Croatia and Serbia this dispute has to do with
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  alterations that were made to the Danube River in the early
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  1900s which changed the flow of the river and it caused Croatian land to shift into
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  Serbian territory now it wasn't so much of a big deal when everything was sort of under the
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  The state of Yugoslavia, right?
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  but when it breaks up and you look at old maps and then you look at new new maps reality today and you
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  realize that some of the land from the old maps has moved from one
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  territory from Croatia's land into Serbia's territory and
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  The dispute is this
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  That nobody's really fighting so much about
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  Liberland, but what Croatia is saying is hey
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  We want to we want to go back to the old maps
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  Before the Danube was altered in all this erosion and all this weirdness happened
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  And it started taking some of our land and giving it to our neighboring country of Serbia and Serbia is saying no no no
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  We want to go buy today's maps today's maps show that it's ours. So it's ours like you know
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  What do you want a hundred years ago? Who cares that that was then this is now so so that's where the dispute is right?
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  and so if you
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  So if you go
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  If you if you go there
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  That's what the Croatian government will bust you for going on the land for camping without a permit or
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  For camping and and their job is fire mitigation on a certain part of the island
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  So if you set up a camp there, they'll destroy the camp
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  Under the guys of fire mitigation right like oh, we're here to do it's not but that's what that's their legal
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  Right for doing it, but they can only do it in a certain region
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  So you go out there the Croatian police come they chase you off they destroy your camp
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  You then just move and set up a different camp in another region
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  Of the island to if you want to and then they can't go there
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  I mean you or you could just set it up there to begin with I suppose
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  but part of this is kind of
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  You you got a you got to fuck with the Croatian police a little bit. We were out there on a houseboat and
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  Going up and down the Danube and they showed up
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  So I have footage of the Croatian police showing up on boat circling our houseboat a couple times and then and then leaving just to try and
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  intimidate us
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  Which is you know didn't really work so but we also weren't on the island at that point
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  We were on a houseboat, so let's do this real quick. Just define terms. What is a
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  state?
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  Because you know I'm anti-state so you you have to ask what is a state?
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  Well according to article one of the
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  1933 Montevideo Convention on Rights and Duties of States the definition in
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  international law reads like this
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  The state as a person of international law should possess the following qualifications
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  There's four of them. You have to have all four of them to be a state, right?
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  a a permanent population that's where they get around this because they've got people who are
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  Camping there that they can are considered permanent and also the people living on the boats
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  So there have been permanent residents there since 2023
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  Legally now, you know permanent in the sense that is there a Taco Bell there? No, okay permanent in
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  Technic from a technicality standpoint, right? So permanent population. Yes
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  Be a defined territory. Yeah, very defined. It's an island. They have the coordinates. It's seven
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  Square kilometers
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  See a government they have a government
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  They do have a government D the capacity to enter into relations with other states
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  They have that as well. So they have quote. They have satisfied all four of the criteria to become a state and
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  So
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  There are additional
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  So so you you qualify as a state and they have and you can get a passport and all that stuff
• 27:18
  I have residency in Liberland and it's e residency, right?
• 27:22
  And so and that's a good thing to have if you want to start a business. Oh, you know what?
• 27:27
  Yeah, we'll get into that in a little bit
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  But there's
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  There's additional
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  International legal considerations that are in Liberland's favor in terms of
• 27:40
  Fine, you've become a state now. You need to get recognized by other states like
• 27:45
  They need to to invite you into the club so to speak now
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  This is the part that I don't love because I don't really want to be in the club
• 27:52
  But again, they're trying to build a state. So they're one foot in one foot out and what they are
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  So what is in Liberland's favor when dealing with the international community is the following
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  The formation of Liberland as a state is based on self government
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  Government of its own people and it meaning its citizens, right?
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  So it's government by its citizens
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  That's better than being government by a king, right? If it said i'm going to be the king of Liberland
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  Internationally people wouldn't be digging that
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  Number two Liberland was proclaimed with the tacit consent of its parent state of Serbia
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  Which has waived claim to the territory. Serbia doesn't want it
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  Right there and that's the reason why they're fine
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  With the Liberland guys setting up shop in Apperton Serbia in a place called arc village
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  because
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  The serbians have no issue
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  With with they don't want the land the island
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  Liberland does not violate the territorial integrity of any other country
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  It's not violated. This is this is land that Croatia doesn't want either
• 29:05
  Uh, they don't want it, but they want to be dicks about it, but that's that's just them
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  Liberland was not claimed by the use of force
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  Very important. It wasn't taken in some
• 29:18
  You know mob rule or anything like that
• 29:21
  Liberland is not a coup or takeover of an existing state, right? So it did not come into being through some warlord
• 29:29
  Uh
• 29:30
  Vitt the warlord would be pretty funny. He's such a he's such a decent guy
• 29:34
  You know, I couldn't imagine him with like a big battle axe, but I don't know maybe he's got one
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  and there is
• 29:41
  No applicable counter claim to that of Liberland on the indicated territory
• 29:47
  So nobody else is trying to get it, right? So this is an island that nobody literally nobody else wants
• 29:53
  it's uh
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  Serbia is like well, it was kind of Croatia's and Croatia's like well, it's it's now it's located in Serbia
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  It's really not ours. There's nothing going on there. So anyway, um
• 30:06
  So yeah campers adventures people living on ships
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  Have been living there since uh the middle of 2023 the the Croatian police will attempt to find you
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  but
• 30:18
  The Croatian courts always throw the charges out so you can go there and they'll
• 30:23
  Put you through the whole rigmarole, you know
• 30:27
  But you're not gonna nothing nothing is really gonna happen to you one way or the other
• 30:31
  There's currently a thousand citizens of Liberland
• 30:35
  And uh, like I said e-residency is available. It's been recognized as a state by Argentina
• 30:42
  El Salvador and Somali land. Okay, so some pretty unusual
• 30:46
  Obviously Argentina has been around for a while
• 30:48
  But he get you know Javier Malay is the is the reason why Argentina signed on to this and you go well, okay
• 30:55
  I mean that's a big state. I've got questions with with that little guy putting his hand on the wall and everything
• 31:01
  But but argentine is legit, you know, they've got a great football team
• 31:05
  So so you you could say well, that's that's that's doable. El Salvador
• 31:09
  Well, El Salvador has obviously been going through some changes recently and I think the reason why it's pretty logical that
• 31:15
  They recognize Liberland is due to the bitcoin connection and the freedom-centric
• 31:20
  nature of elzante in in
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  El Salvador
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  There's obviously some state related issues with that country
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  authoritarian
• 31:31
  Bukele president Bukele creating the c-set the
• 31:36
  Like state run giant
• 31:40
  Prison system for all of the ms-13 and
• 31:44
  You know all the all the gangs that were coming out of El Salvador now that is a huge dilemma because on the one hand
• 31:49
  It was like extremely effective and they went from being the most dangerous country in the world
• 31:55
  To the safest country in the world in like several years
• 31:58
  It required them being authoritarian and taking all these guys with
• 32:02
  face tattoos and putting them in a cage forever
• 32:04
  But when you understand what it takes to get the face tattoos you understand why they belong in a cage
• 32:10
  I have issues about the state being involved and just
• 32:14
  massively
• 32:15
  Grabbing people and putting them in cages on an ideological basis
• 32:19
  But if you're going to be honest about who they grabbed and threw in those cages
• 32:23
  They were the people that needed to go
• 32:25
  So there's a little bit of uh, you can't argue with the results here
• 32:29
  And if they had done nothing it would have remained the most dangerous country in the world
• 32:33
  So so then you have to say well is is is that the solution you want do nothing?
• 32:38
  I mean do something
• 32:40
  Authoritarian statism it worked in this case do is it gross? Yeah, it's gross because you can get you know
• 32:47
  today it's uh
• 32:49
  ms-13 right and it's pretty obvious that they're ms-13 with the head tattoos and shit like that right but but tomorrow it may be
• 32:56
  uh
• 32:58
  You know you're in the anarcho polko gang and everyone's like what there is no park
• 33:02
  Anarcho polko gang it's like oh, yeah
• 33:04
  Well, we think there is you guys always go to mexico each year and
• 33:08
  conspire and talk about the government so we're just gonna
• 33:10
  You know put all you guys in a cage
• 33:13
  And then you're in a real gray area right where it said no longer face tattoos now
• 33:18
  It's down to just your ideology right so i don't love it i'll say i the el salvador thing
• 33:24
  I have big problems right you can't argue with the results. I understand that and if you're
• 33:28
  God forbid if you're somebody who lived there and dealt with the violence and the the rapes and the murders and all of the
• 33:33
  Terror that was going on. I mean
• 33:35
  You might be the most grateful status ever right to that somebody came in and fixed this but you do understand
• 33:43
  It can be undone as well. It could be unfixed just as easily all you have to do is open the door
• 33:48
  To the to the prison and everybody walks out and then you've got the problems all over again right so
• 33:54
  So there's there's issues and lastly on the list. I mentioned Somali land
• 33:58
  Uh recognize it. Do you mean Somalia? No, I don't I mean Somali land
• 34:03
  Do you know about this? This is uh, well, that's not the greatest. I'll be straight up with you
• 34:10
  Somalia is in a bit of a civil war, you know because
• 34:15
  The empire is fucking with it
• 34:17
  But you know when you take a look at the geography of Somalia
• 34:21
  That the the part that man
• 34:23
  It's kind of like a wishbone formation of of the way that the country's laid out
• 34:27
  That the region that borders the water the Gulf of Aden
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  Um
• 34:31
  That is a strategic
• 34:34
  like
• 34:35
  Very advantageous strategic location. It's it's
• 34:39
  Across the Babel al-Mandeb straight from Yemen
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  So if if the Yemenis want to close the Babel al-Mandeb
• 34:47
  And somebody had control of Somali land they could they could make sure that that didn't happen
• 34:53
  So you go, all right. Well, who's who is who?
• 34:58
  Is involved in Somali land Israel
• 35:01
  Israel is that's who so what's happened is that they have come in and
• 35:07
  and
• 35:10
  Financed, you know, like the opposition to get this the state to break away create Somali land as opposed to just Somalia
• 35:15
  and now there's two of them instead of one
• 35:17
  And control the the region Israel recognizes it was the first state to recognize it, which I think should be a
• 35:24
  Huge problem. So so, you know, forgive me when I don't get enthusiastic about Somali land
• 35:32
  Recognizing Lieberland because I
• 35:35
  Don't like the new administration of Somali land. So but you know, look, that's neither here nor there
• 35:40
  They didn't ask my opinion on it. And I doubt that they will let's talk about arc village. This is their little home base
• 35:46
  It's the facility was great. You know, it's like going to summer camp
• 35:51
  And I don't know how big it is in terms of acreage. I want to say, I don't know. I mean, it's like a
• 35:57
  20 acre site. I don't know it's it seemed pretty big there were
• 36:02
  it's the home base
• 36:03
  And I don't know. I guess I'd say current capital of of Lieberland. I don't know. They don't really have a capital but
• 36:11
  It's it's the home base and it's it's a
• 36:14
  There's six cabins that are that are there available for people to rent
• 36:19
  There are there's a big three-story clubhouse. That's where we held the the the stage was inside
• 36:26
  We had everything set up there and then um
• 36:29
  There's like a third third floor the like big conference area
• 36:32
  That's where dinners were served and then outside. There's a huge lake
• 36:38
  like pond
• 36:39
  but
• 36:40
  Like a beautiful pond not like the sketchy kind where you get mosquitoes and all that stuff, but like
• 36:46
  All these amazing lily pads everywhere and there were fish in the lake and then on the other side of the lake they had
• 36:52
  an enclosed area with livestock. There were a ton of sheep over the sheep and
• 36:59
  Pigs so on the first day I went over there with some of the people and we checked out all the livestock and
• 37:05
  gave the pigs water and
• 37:08
  You know chase the sheep around they had some baby sheep which were super cute
• 37:12
  My wife wanted me to take one of them home. She's like that little black one will fit in your carry-on. I was like god damn it
• 37:17
  I don't need to be
• 37:19
  Stealing sheep from Serbia and bringing them. I got I'm gonna have enough problems getting back through customs. I'll tell you why in a second
• 37:26
  um
• 37:28
  So they're they're but they're building
• 37:31
  Uh, oh and for the conference for liber polko
• 37:35
  You could either watch it inside
• 37:37
  In air-conditioned area, which was nice because it was 90 degrees out there
• 37:41
  Or you could go outside. We had a hundred inch lcd tv set up
• 37:45
  And there were campfires that were set up and big bales of hay and chairs everywhere and picnic tables and there was a
• 37:54
  Like a above ground pool. There was a big dock. You could go out you go swimming the pond
• 37:59
  So people were just kind of indoor outdoor in this you sit out in the sun and watch presentations for a couple hours
• 38:05
  It was great. Have some liber beer. They have their own beer. I I I
• 38:11
  I did a little a little test to see I wanted to check their liber beer and see how good it was
• 38:16
  So I had as many of them as I possibly could over the course of the week. They're pretty good
• 38:21
  I must say so um
• 38:23
  But they had big plans for this in fact arc
• 38:26
  Village two is underway. They showed us the plans for it and um
• 38:33
  It includes 30 villas. So there's six right now, but they're building 30 more
• 38:39
  a boutique hotel in a longevity clinic and we were shown the designs for it for the
• 38:46
  Holistic architecture that they're using the land has already been acquired. This is so this is not on the island itself
• 38:53
  This is not actually on liber land. This is their home base in Serbia. It's expanding and of course that's kind of
• 39:00
  The plan build the home base get everybody there
• 39:04
  Near it and then from that point that's a great place to launch out and start construction and start everything that needs to happen
• 39:11
  So they're doing it the right way and of course when you're starting a country, you know, there are no rules
• 39:16
  But you kind of have to figure out what's best for you. So so they um
• 39:21
  So they they bought the land and they're they showed us what the healing center is going to look like and I'll tell you what
• 39:27
  they
• 39:28
  They did something really interesting and over the last couple of years at an archipelago
• 39:33
  I have I have come to become
• 39:36
  become friends with the the husband and wife team but behind
• 39:40
  something called geophilia and this is
• 39:44
  sacred architecture
• 39:46
  it's um
• 39:47
  Arturo and dr. Lydia de Leon and they're
• 39:51
  If you watch their presentation, I tell them this every year and it's it's the honest truth
• 39:57
  Every time I watch their presentation on sacred architect sacred geometry
• 40:03
  But the architecture and in what they're building and how they create these homes no straight lines at all
• 40:09
  I mean everything's curved, but your living room is like a is like an energy vortex amplifier
• 40:16
  And and the paint that they use on the wall is infused with this this energetic
• 40:22
  Resonance material that makes everything even for vitt took one look at this
• 40:28
  A couple years ago and he scrapped all his plans for arc two
• 40:32
  that the the original plans he had for all the the
• 40:35
  30 villas that he wanted and the longevity clinic in the boutique hotel
• 40:40
  He said we're doing it wrong. We have to do it this other way
• 40:43
  We have to do it the way you guys are doing it. So they showed us what the what the they showed us the before and after what the
• 40:50
  What the villas were going to look like and what they look like what they're going to look like in the future
• 40:54
  He's doing it right. He was correct in this. He he he got vitt the president got really into
• 41:01
  This type of architecture and went down the rabbit hole of why we should have it or why they should have it and why why
• 41:07
  Why it matters and why it is ideologically aligned with what they're trying to build and and so they're going to be working together on it and
• 41:17
  That's going to be a good thing for for Lieberland because
• 41:21
  So arc village will have some of this sacred geometry, but my assumptions that that that will carry over
• 41:27
  Into the island itself once they get to a point where they're building that and
• 41:32
  That I bet you I bet you in these healing centers
• 41:35
  I bet you they're going to have some tesla machines there
• 41:38
  but what being that it's the hometown of tesla and all in Serbia and
• 41:46
  A little bit more about that later that that that
• 41:49
  Plays into my why I said I didn't want to take a goat home with me and deal with customs already going to have customs up my ass
• 41:56
  Um, but right after they did Lieberpulco
• 41:59
  There's a another conference that was happening and I couldn't stay for it
• 42:02
  I had already been there for eight days and I had to get home, but a conference called floating man
• 42:07
  which is uh
• 42:09
  You know sort of a spin off of uh, you know burning man and everything so floating down the danube
• 42:13
  The irony is that this year floating man
• 42:17
  They're gonna be floating down the danube and there's not much water there in an interesting turn of events and something that I must confess
• 42:24
  I my my knowledge of the history of the danube river was
• 42:28
  quite limited up until this trip, but
• 42:31
  There have been such
• 42:33
  bad droughts in northern europe
• 42:37
  that
• 42:38
  the
• 42:39
  Water levels of the danube are extraordinarily low in fact so low
• 42:45
  that
• 42:46
  sunken nazi battleships are now emerging out of the where the water used to be because the line the waterline is so low
• 42:55
  and
• 42:56
  We experienced i mean you could see it when i i i flew into budapest and drove down
• 43:02
  Uh three hours so you go three hours south of budapest into Serbia
• 43:07
  And then about a half hour into Serbia, but that whole way, you know besides what a beautiful country
• 43:12
  Hungary is by the way, just nothing but sunflower seeds and cornfields everywhere. I just really
• 43:18
  I just really appreciated how how uh how pretty that that from what I saw if I saw three hours driving down the road but
• 43:26
  But you could also see the danube and there was like it's like where's the water? Well when we did the um
• 43:32
  The houseboat trip out to to you know on the danube to liber land
• 43:38
  We saw we saw where the water levels had been i mean it was like half as much water in there as as as normal
• 43:43
  So I thought it was kind of funny that that this this event that they do
• 43:47
  Um, and I think they've done it for six years. They're called floating man. It was it was
• 43:52
  Ironically gonna need a little bit more water for everybody to actually float
• 43:55
  I did mention
• 43:59
  The liber land blockchain. This is something this there are some business opportunities there for people if you're interested
• 44:05
  You can
• 44:07
  Again, it's not for everybody and it's not for every business, but but you can set up
• 44:12
  Your your let's say you have an online
• 44:16
  Marketplace or online store online company you can set that up on the liber land blockchain and make it a liber land
• 44:24
  Company and in doing so your taxation is is
• 44:29
  optional
• 44:31
  And I think if you're running a business and you have the option to not pay taxes
• 44:36
  You're probably going to find a good use for that
• 44:39
  Revenue that money that to maybe grow your business or
• 44:43
  Maybe even just put it in your pocket, right?
• 44:45
  Whatever
• 44:46
  If you don't have to pay taxes and you can do things differently
• 44:50
  And you have a business that can be set up in a way that takes advantage of this
• 44:54
  You're gonna want to get residency
• 44:57
  In e residency in liber land. It's easy to do you would be surprised. I have it
• 45:02
  You'll get a card you get a resident card and everything you can knock that out in like 30 minutes cost me 150 bucks for it
• 45:09
  and
• 45:10
  If you're if you're gonna start a business you need that
• 45:13
  You need to have that residency. You don't need to get a passport you can you can earn a passport
• 45:18
  You can buy a passport you can do some the things that you need to do
• 45:21
  But you don't necessarily need that to do the business. So if you're interested if you're somebody who's uh
• 45:28
  Who's taken a look
• 45:30
  at
• 45:32
  Opportunities and for structuring your business differently. I mean
• 45:37
  Taxes are voluntary and gay um moving on let's talk about liber polko 2026
• 45:42
  So like I said, I was the stage manager there, which I love doing
• 45:46
  Whether it's emceeing an archipelago or the stage manager here
• 45:50
  I get to I get to interact with everybody I get to talk to everybody who's gonna come up on the stage and present and talk
• 45:56
  Hey, what are you doing? What's your presentation on? What do you need?
• 45:59
  Did you're you know, I just made sure that with the av guys that they had what they needed
• 46:05
  So when somebody got up on stage their presentation was loaded and they weren't going to be up there
• 46:09
  You know with a blank screen so
• 46:11
  um
• 46:12
  So yes, I was everybody's friend
• 46:14
  But
• 46:16
  I'm everybody's friend anywhere because I like the people there and and and I just feel like
• 46:21
  I feel like I'm home
• 46:23
  You know when I'm around these these people so it's it's always great and a lot of them are repeats
• 46:28
  You know a lot of them you see every year obviously jeff berwick is there jeff is the founder
• 46:33
  Of an archipelago. He is the founder of the dollar vigilante. He is my co-author on the control demolition of the american empire
• 46:40
  and he's been a friend since 2018
• 46:43
  and um
• 46:44
  And so it's always good to see jeff and jeff whenever jeff does a presentation, you know, it's it's it's a packed house and
• 46:52
  usually
• 46:54
  You know usually there's uh some sort of fuckery afoot and uh as soon as jeff took the stage power went out
• 47:03
  So we knew something like that was going to happen. Of course it got reset and everything was fine
• 47:07
  But but expect that and he went through a long list of all the things that had happened at at an archipelago over the years
• 47:13
  Right the hurricane first the cat five hurricane that hit one year then the cat three hurricane that went
• 47:19
  Came from offshore went onshore
• 47:21
  Then went back offshore strengthened again and then came back onshore again
• 47:26
  Meteorologists had said they'd never seen anything like that a hurricane that made landfall twice in like four hours
• 47:32
  Which is crazy. Um the um
• 47:37
  They had we've had earthquakes there. We've had all kinds of things happening
• 47:40
  So cartels the at a narco polko this year, which was in Puerto Vallarta
• 47:45
  All the cartel
• 47:46
  Bus bombings and taxi bombings and things that happened the day or two after narco
• 47:52
  That wasn't really that wasn't tied to us that that didn't have anything to do it
• 47:55
  So there's just but there's always something whether it be a natural disaster
• 47:59
  And i'm putting natural and air quotes because those hurricanes were not really natural
• 48:05
  But uh, there's always something right so so we are nothing if not
• 48:11
  flexible and able to
• 48:12
  Uh deal with curveballs that are thrown our way. So it was so it's always good to see jeff and of course
• 48:20
  He was on the show
• 48:22
  He was on this show a couple weeks ago
• 48:24
  So you'd go back and catch catch my interview with him. We were talking a little bit about this
• 48:29
  Free cities were there with tim allen. Are you familiar with free cities?
• 48:33
  Are you very familiar with prospera in honduras?
• 48:36
  Yeah, they're doing again. These are builders quite literally builders in some cases these guys are are
• 48:43
  Taking areas. This is a like a free region in honduras that they're again. They're doing things differently
• 48:49
  It's no surprise that the guy from free cities is at lieber polko, right?
• 48:53
  They're they're very they're very similar in in their ideologies here. We had, um
• 48:59
  We had patrick henderson from 21st century wire there. Are you familiar with his work? It is it's outstanding at activist post
• 49:05
  we republish
• 49:07
  Oh boy, just about anything they put out. I mean, it's really it's
• 49:12
  Top um in in my opinion and um and patrick henderson is a is an og in the
• 49:20
  Independent media in the in the independent news world
• 49:23
  I mean, he's the guy who actually gets his camera microphones and goes to iran and and checks it out for himself
• 49:30
  He doesn't just take the mainstream corporate and presses word for it
• 49:33
  He'll be there in person doing that. It's great context and it's always great to see patrick and and he and I had a
• 49:40
  had to did a nice little interview for his
• 49:43
  For his
• 49:45
  One of his weekly shows that he does and so i'll try and find that interview and see if I can
• 49:50
  Put it out for people to catch it if nothing else
• 49:52
  It's
• 49:53
  Visually stunning because we're right at the edge of the pond and you can see all the lily pads and everything behind it
• 49:59
  at uh at arc village
• 50:01
  And uh, if you're not following 21st century wire if you're not getting some of your news from them
• 50:06
  You should consider doing it. They've they've got a long track record. Okay. Uh max eagin was there and let me tell you
• 50:13
  Yes, I said I would tell you the max eagin story. So so
• 50:17
  the
• 50:18
  Never has max had two speaking slots and we're looking at the at the schedule before like the day before the event starts
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  He's like, I have two spots. I'm like, I know that's weird. He says, well, you know, I'm good for it
• 50:28
  I said, well, yeah, of course. So the first day he goes up there and like I said vitt had been uh
• 50:33
  talking about how great Javier Malay was and max got up on stage and just brought a flamethrower and
• 50:40
  Made a big list of all the ways in which Javier Malay sucks and that was entertaining and funny because you know
• 50:46
  Not everybody has to agree on everything, right? We it's a it's a it's a festival filled with anarchists a couple hundred anarchists there
• 50:52
  I mean getting people to agree on things is not required
• 50:55
  So it's okay if there's some questions about who the good guys are and who the bad guys are
• 51:00
  Um, but then day two was max didn't have a spot and then max was going to go day three
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  and so
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  In you know with that in mind
• 51:12
  On day two, I was running around
• 51:15
  Finding people who were supposed to be speaking in 15 minutes and getting them ready kind of come over here
• 51:21
  You I'll get you a set up and you can leave your bag here and all that stuff, right?
• 51:25
  So I find this guy who I don't recognize his name. I've never met him before it's a it's like a European name and
• 51:34
  So I um
• 51:37
  I
• 51:37
  I get him to this I get him to the side of the stage make sure he's got you know
• 51:42
  His presentation is loaded up and he gets up and he starts talking and and he's a Dutch guy
• 51:47
  and
• 51:48
  And I didn't get to hear much of his presentation because I was kind of running around doing other things but
• 51:54
  When he got done
• 51:56
  We're actually about halfway through his presentation. He'd made a comment and the comment was
• 52:02
  the
• 52:02
  You know, we're building some intentional communities in the Netherlands and we're thinking about we're doing it this way and that way
• 52:09
  And there's some benefits to it and part of it is you know the family life and you get these
• 52:12
  Families that are a little bit, you know tighter and everything
• 52:16
  And then you can expose the children to sex at an earlier and earlier age and everyone in the audience was like
• 52:23
  what
• 52:24
  wait
• 52:25
  Excuse me. What did you say?
• 52:28
  Now I didn't hear it. I didn't hear it. I maybe I can go back on the replay and find it but I was
• 52:34
  Enough people did hear it that they were like, whoa
• 52:37
  Not not we're not down with that, right?
• 52:40
  So the investigation begins immediately until like who the fuck is this guy?
• 52:45
  Like let's figure this out. I mean everyone just starts jumping and it's so I turn a corner
• 52:50
  There's maxi you can stand in there and he goes come here. I gotta show you something and I was like what
• 52:54
  He opens his phone. He shows me a picture of this dude who's just gotten off the stage
• 53:01
  As a younger man probably 10 years younger wearing a green israeli defense force t-shirt
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  And I went uh-oh
• 53:12
  That's gonna be a problem and max is like, yeah
• 53:16
  so
• 53:17
  I say that as the reason when max max says to me the following day
• 53:22
  So now it's day three the final day max spoke on day one
• 53:25
  He did not speak on day two, but this guy did and now it's day three and we're about about to start and max comes and pulls me
• 53:31
  Aside and he says
• 53:33
  I had to talk with the president and I told him what i'm gonna do. I didn't ask him
• 53:39
  If I could do it. I just told him this is what i'm going to do and the president that's responses max
• 53:44
  We've known you for a long time. You do what you need to do
• 53:48
  so
• 53:50
  Max said to me. I need you to I'm gonna send you some pictures. I need you to coordinate with the av guys and get them to
• 53:56
  Put put these pictures up. I'm gonna need them for a slideshow
• 53:59
  Oh, but along the narrow screen that the the the wide screen that's kind of running across the back of the stage
• 54:05
  I have a very special image that I'd like to run across that
• 54:08
  And I took one look at it and I started laughing and I said I'll make I'll make sure it's taking care of free max
• 54:13
  I know where you're going with this
• 54:15
  So when he gets up on stage
• 54:18
  The screen behind him is a rectangular screen really very long one and it and we put the picture of the
• 54:26
  Mossad's logo by way of deception thou shout do war right that logo that says that there that's running across the back
• 54:34
  And max is telling max says to me beforehand. He says, you know, I feel like the universe is speaking to me
• 54:39
  I've never had two speaking spots. I get one at the beginning
• 54:43
  I do my normal fuck the government fuck the government fuck the government speech, which everyone goes crazy for
• 54:48
  That's how he starts every speech at an archipelago. It's it's one of the things that everybody waits for
• 54:52
  It's one of the reasons why he's one of the first speakers, you know, he just kicks it off, right?
• 54:57
  But he's like, you know, I feel like the universe is telling me you got two spots for a reason
• 55:00
  That second speech is for is there to comment on something and what happened the day before
• 55:06
  something right so max decided to comment on it
• 55:09
  And he starts pulling up pictures. Well, first of all, we started pulling up some pictures from Croatia
• 55:14
  Which was a little bit off topic, but pictures of Croatia geographically
• 55:20
  Close to us of fires
• 55:23
  That had just started in Croatia really bad fires, right that you might not have heard about I didn't hear about them until I was there
• 55:29
  Right, but fires nonetheless
• 55:31
  And max had some footage some photographs of the fires in the aftermath of the fire
• 55:36
  And wouldn't you know it the buildings that weren't on fire had blue roofs
• 55:41
  again
• 55:43
  Okay, so he he starts with that like guys they're burning down the place
• 55:48
  They're doing it again. They're doing it in Maui. They're doing it in pacific palisades
• 55:52
  They're doing it like this is
• 55:54
  Happening right the blue roof thing is a real thing. It's happening directed energy
• 55:58
  Weapons have a problem with the color blue that it doesn't light up
• 56:02
  It doesn't catch on fire the way everything else does blue roofs are a thing the things that don't get burned
• 56:06
  Usually have these this particular shade of blue around them. So max is showing some pictures of that right everyone's intrigued
• 56:14
  But then he goes and lays out the story about how this guy
• 56:18
  From yesterday came on sit and now now mind you we don't know if the guys
• 56:22
  I'm I'm doing a lap around the whole place to see if this guy's even here
• 56:26
  Right because if he's here he's about to wish he's not here
• 56:30
  Right, but he never showed up. We never saw him after that
• 56:32
  But max went and just pulled up that guy's old facebook pictures and straight up said infiltrator
• 56:38
  You remember yesterday that guy who was talking about this and that next thing you know
• 56:43
  He's saying we could sexualize the kids so we can introduce the kids to sex younger and everybody went
• 56:46
  What the fuck are you talking about? Here's a picture of him wearing a green idf shirt from when he was in the israeli
• 56:52
  Israeli defense force
• 56:55
  There will be infiltrators there will be people who are bad actors coming to try and get into your conference or your event
• 57:02
  and fuck with it
• 57:05
  now
• 57:06
  friend of a friend of his or something
• 57:09
  Said that's he used to do that. He was in that a while ago
• 57:13
  But in 2023 he changed his ways and my response is just spare me. Just fucking spare me
• 57:18
  All right, there's don't talk to me about idf soldiers
• 57:22
  Changing their ways just i'm not i didn't fall off the turnip truck last week. So
• 57:28
  That's the maxie you can story, you know, if you guys are you can follow max at the crow house
• 57:33
  On bit shoot. He does a lot of work on bit shoot, but you know who he is right the older
• 57:38
  Australian guy does his walk and talk videos long white beard looks like obi one kanobi
• 57:42
  i'm telling you
• 57:45
  That guy is just
• 57:48
  He is intellectually honest always
• 57:53
  Always and in all ways max egan fucking love that guy. I mean
• 58:01
  He's they broke the mold when they made that guy he and so
• 58:04
  Perfect person to go up there if anyone had two slots
• 58:07
  I'm glad it was max because you know, he was gonna come up there. He wasn't gonna pull any punches, which was great
• 58:12
  He did also from libero polko 2026
• 58:15
  I got a chance to spend a lot of time with alexak. Are you familiar with him?
• 58:19
  He he runs a conference called confluence happens in april in texas and
• 58:25
  He has a podcast called the way forward
• 58:28
  again
• 58:29
  Just a spectacular human being i had a chance to spend time with him
• 58:33
  We met in mexico a few years ago, but i haven't i haven't and i liked him right away
• 58:38
  But i haven't had enough time to get to know him but we we spent some time and as he was there with his
• 58:44
  Three generations he was there with his son and his dad and and i got a chance to talk to his dad as well
• 58:49
  And i understand where he where he comes from, you know, and uh, that's a good dude
• 58:55
  That's a good dude right there, man that i liked him a lot. Um
• 58:59
  Are you familiar with mark devlin?
• 59:02
  Yeah mark devlin musical truths volumes one two and three you can buy these books
• 59:07
  These books man
• 59:10
  Here's the disclaimer
• 59:12
  be
• 59:13
  Careful because he did a presentation in mexico called no more heroes
• 59:18
  In 2019 that i watched with ole damagard. We sat there and our jaws were on the floor like it was
• 59:25
  He'll take all your favorite bands and show you how they're either the fathers were in military intelligence
• 59:32
  We know a lot of this stuff now, but but but the depths in which he goes
• 59:36
  Like all of the the members of like copeland family steward copeland, you know members the police and everything
• 59:43
  Their ties to intelligence that like their father's ties to intelligence the names of their groups all the
• 59:50
  All of it right you you have to go into it and separate the art from the artist
• 59:55
  Or else you're gonna throw all your cds away after you get done listening to mark devlin's presentation
• 59:59
  But he also he so he did two presentations
• 1:00:02
  Which was great because in his case we we we had a technical issue for the first one
• 1:00:07
  And we we short changed him on some time
• 1:00:09
  So we were able to open him up and give him an extra spot
• 1:00:12
  Like a speaking slot in the in the morning and that was packed with people
• 1:00:16
  So if you if you ever get a chance to to talk to mark devlin or hear him talk, um
• 1:00:23
  He's he'll blow your mind, but but it comes at a cost
• 1:00:28
  It comes at a cost because a lot of the people who's whose music you love you're gonna be like, oh, shit
• 1:00:33
  I know they're in the cult, you know, and it's more than just bono
• 1:00:37
  You know, it's it's you know bono's not not good
• 1:00:41
  You know with the red shoes and the red sunglasses and all that stuff
• 1:00:45
  But like it's some of the people that you're all oh, no, not him, right? Oh, shit, you know
• 1:00:50
  um
• 1:00:51
  And he did dj set too, which was great. So you you got a chance to hear his musical
• 1:00:57
  truths
• 1:00:59
  Lectures and also you got a chance to rock out with him at night, which was fantastic
• 1:01:03
  Tom Shaw was there bringing poetry to the stage. Tom Shaw is just absolutely delightful. I must say he was the mc
• 1:01:11
  this year and
• 1:01:12
  And I met him earlier in Mexico at at an archipelago
• 1:01:18
  And he was it did his presentation there
• 1:01:22
  and was state was a sage manager in Serbia and
• 1:01:27
  He makes poetry cool
• 1:01:29
  He's he is a legitimate poet and again and one of these guys who
• 1:01:33
  started down the path
• 1:01:35
  in the medical industry he's going to be a dentist
• 1:01:38
  And and not just a little bit down the path three years into the path
• 1:01:43
  When you have that light bulb moment and you go
• 1:01:45
  I don't think these people are are good operators. I don't think they're
• 1:01:51
  Helping I mean dentists get a little bit more of a past than say like medical doctors, right?
• 1:01:54
  But you know fluoride there's still there's there's issues there
• 1:01:58
  And when you realize that your soul doesn't resonate with that profession
• 1:02:04
  And you've invested three years of education into it. It's tough to walk away
• 1:02:08
  So I think that is that goes to show you the character of tom Shaw
• 1:02:12
  Who just said I cannot live with myself if I go down this path and work in this field. I must do something else
• 1:02:20
  To leave dentistry to become a poet
• 1:02:23
  I could imagine
• 1:02:25
  Probably a tough conversation to have with the parents
• 1:02:29
  It's like the equivalent of I'm going to go follow the Grateful Dead
• 1:02:33
  Right, you know, yeah, this med school thing is for the birds
• 1:02:37
  I'm going to go twirl in the parking lot of a Grateful Dead concert for the next three years
• 1:02:41
  What do you think about that mom and dad?
• 1:02:42
  But I'll tell you what I bet she's way more happy and he is a
• 1:02:48
  Superb human being
• 1:02:50
  Jason Kristoff was there. He did his mind control
• 1:02:53
  presentation
• 1:02:54
  And the mind and he he did the mind control presentation in Mexico as well
• 1:02:58
  And it's one to watch and I'm gonna I'm connecting with Jason to to have him on the show at some point here soon
• 1:03:04
  I hope so because
• 1:03:05
  Because the thing about mind control that he he reminds people, you know
• 1:03:10
  Again, he'll ask he'll ask the question and you either watch out
• 1:03:13
  When you answer it because you're walking into a trap
• 1:03:15
  How many people here raise your hand if you think you you understand mind control raise your hand if you think you can't be
• 1:03:21
  mind controlled
• 1:03:23
  You better not raise your hand
• 1:03:25
  Better not raise your hand. I'm just saying
• 1:03:28
  Because you can
• 1:03:29
  And you will be and he'll do it to you if he has to to show you that you can be mind controlled
• 1:03:35
  Because you we have got to get honest with it the technology is far exceeding our abilities to detect it
• 1:03:41
  All right, we are being propagandized on on a variety of levels now
• 1:03:47
  Knowledge and understanding and awareness of how it happens the tactics that they use
• 1:03:52
  That'll make you less susceptible to it
• 1:03:54
  But but if you are of the belief that you can't be mind controlled
• 1:03:57
  He'll tell you you're the perfect candidate for it actually
• 1:04:01
  It's it's it's that certainty
• 1:04:03
  That it can't be done to you that makes you
• 1:04:07
  That puts you in a in a class for for bad things to happen to so so
• 1:04:12
  You know get honest with yourself about about that
• 1:04:15
  I spent a lot of time and thank god I did because there's not a better person to hang out with than gareth icke
• 1:04:22
  And and this has been we this has been a few years now that we we've had a chance to just
• 1:04:26
  To just chat and you know if you ever watch his show the walk over on iconic
• 1:04:31
  It's an interesting show he he he you know sometimes we need to just get out
• 1:04:36
  Away from this information because it's heavy and it's hard on your soul
• 1:04:40
  And if you do it for too long it does something to you and you know the touch grass thing
• 1:04:45
  Well, you know sometimes you do need to get out there and touch grass and what gareth has been doing
• 1:04:48
  He's been doing a show for the last couple years called the walk and he'll go to different regions of you know throughout the
• 1:04:55
  I think it might
• 1:04:57
  But throughout the uk
• 1:04:58
  I don't know. He might have been some other countries as well
• 1:05:01
  Where he'll he'll go out on a walk
• 1:05:04
  And and you know it's a walk and talk but but he'll explain about the history of the region or maybe one of these
• 1:05:09
  You know a building and there'll be a drone and so you get some good aerial footage and
• 1:05:14
  And and he's been doing that show for a while
• 1:05:16
  I think it's I think it's nice for people to kind of digitally touch grass in the sense that with some some topics
• 1:05:21
  That are less heavy right
• 1:05:23
  But there was a fantastic old rundown mill that was right on the other side of arc village that we we could go to in fact
• 1:05:30
  It was part of
• 1:05:32
  The property for arc two
• 1:05:34
  So it's going to be there. So gareth was like, oh my god. Can I borrow a drone from the
• 1:05:39
  Kamma crew and so they they hooked him up with one
• 1:05:42
  So he did a an episode of the walk in Serbia
• 1:05:46
  Where he walked around that mill and then got that so if you're if you're into his his stuff and you should be
• 1:05:51
  Uh
• 1:05:52
  That'd be a fun one to to to check out. I'm definitely going to see it because I want to know what's going on
• 1:05:57
  Or I never got a chance to see the the mill. I knew where it was
• 1:06:00
  But I couldn't see it from where I was but the people who walked over there and explored it were like
• 1:06:05
  They had questions
• 1:06:06
  About like the age of the mill. It's like 200 years old. It's still
• 1:06:11
  great condition
• 1:06:13
  So, yeah, check that out. Well
• 1:06:16
  My presentation I'll tell you what my presentation my presentation was on the mainstream media
• 1:06:22
  And how awful they are and how they trick you and it was kind of a compilation of a lot of people's speeches
• 1:06:27
  Because I had a little bit of mind control in there
• 1:06:29
  So it spoke a little bit to to jason christoff's I was talking a little bit about the nudge unit
• 1:06:35
  So I did it spoke to what mark devlin was talking about in the uk
• 1:06:39
  So, you know, my my talk was a little bit universal. It had the common thread of despising the mainstream media
• 1:06:47
  And and what I noticed during my speech is that we had we had a couple guys from
• 1:06:53
  From aljazeera there. They were there all week. They were filming a
• 1:06:58
  Show that they do
• 1:07:00
  And I I don't know. I'm not familiar with the show
• 1:07:02
  But clearly I could tell one guy was the host and he's a big big black guy with the dreads and
• 1:07:09
  And they filmed for days there life all three days of the conference
• 1:07:13
  They were there the day before the conference. They were the day after the conference. They went on the houseboat with us
• 1:07:19
  And
• 1:07:21
  And you know, I'll be I'll be honest with you in terms of mainstream media
• 1:07:24
  I despise the corporate press especially in america and all the uk stuff as well. There are two
• 1:07:32
  semi mainstream media organizations that I can deal with I find their information to be
• 1:07:38
  Really a lot better than everybody else's and that's rt russia today, which is russian and aljazeera
• 1:07:45
  so I don't have the sort of
• 1:07:49
  Vitriol for those two mainstream media
• 1:07:52
  outlets that I do for everybody else
• 1:07:55
  but
• 1:07:56
  They were sitting in my presentation
• 1:07:59
  At least for the first half of it
• 1:08:02
  And then they left. So I think I might have chased them out of the room. I get off stage
• 1:08:07
  I got a message from the producer who's like, I think you chased aljazeera out of the room. Ha ha ha
• 1:08:12
  I might have I didn't interact with them at all during the trip. I would have they seem like nice people
• 1:08:18
  I didn't I didn't have any sort of like
• 1:08:21
  I didn't have it out for them or there was there was no there was no energy one way or the other towards them
• 1:08:25
  I mean, yes, they're the corporate press and sometimes you kind of need that right you like
• 1:08:30
  I wouldn't trust abc news or nbc news or anything like that to to do the liber land thing
• 1:08:36
  But you know, I've I've been on rt a few times and and that was the only network that that would ever
• 1:08:42
  That has ever offered to have me on and so I've done that
• 1:08:46
  And and aljazeera I
• 1:08:48
  I'll read their stuff actually because I find they're reporting to be way better, especially on anything middle east related
• 1:08:55
  uh, not perfect far from it, of course, but but
• 1:08:59
  Way better and not so politically charged and not so israeli heavy, of course
• 1:09:04
  So I'm I'm sort of you know, if anyone could do
• 1:09:07
  A piece on liber land and make it objective
• 1:09:12
  I think they probably could so I'll be interested to see what they do when this comes out
• 1:09:17
  But like I said, they spent a lot of time there over
• 1:09:21
  Oh, at least five days that I saw them. They might have been there
• 1:09:25
  After I left, but I I don't know what they would have been filming
• 1:09:28
  But uh, you watch it'll come out. It'll be a five minute bit, you know, like that that that's how it all gets condensed, but
• 1:09:36
  And also just for fun. We had something, you know, there's always something going on at these conferences that are
• 1:09:44
  That's unusual that you're not going to find at any other conference and this one we had
• 1:09:49
  It turns out that the guy who they hired to
• 1:09:53
  Help with driving the logistics picking people up and driving them from the to and from the airport
• 1:09:58
  Was a guy named oliver and he picked me up at the airport in budapest and with
• 1:10:04
  Another lady named bumps shout out to bumps. She's the best
• 1:10:08
  and bumps and I bonded over this we
• 1:10:11
  We were staying in the same house the same partner house and so we had a three and a half hour ride with this driver named oliver
• 1:10:18
  All right, I don't know and then I just figured this is guy who's he's got a car that they hire
• 1:10:23
  No, no, no, no, this guy is a serbian darts champion. He's like an international star
• 1:10:29
  Okay, he in in our if you're are you into darts? I am not into darts
• 1:10:33
  I mean I could be and I don't have anything against darts
• 1:10:36
  It's just it's it doesn't it's not a thing in in the bars that in america
• 1:10:41
  I
• 1:10:42
  I can only remember one time
• 1:10:44
  I've ever been to a bar and played darts and that was in austin, texas like 15 years ago and
• 1:10:51
  But whatever I know in the uk
• 1:10:53
  It's a huge thing probably probably europe just in general. It's a huge thing
• 1:10:59
  So I did not realize I was in the presence of greatness for this car ride and we started
• 1:11:04
  I mean and he couldn't have been nicer and we just had a blast with with him and throughout the whole week
• 1:11:09
  He was there the whole week
• 1:11:10
  and he did
• 1:11:12
  um
• 1:11:13
  A darts workshop
• 1:11:15
  So you could take a lesson and yeah, it was packed
• 1:11:18
  There were a bunch of people in it because I came around the corner and I was like, oh, I guess there's the darts workshop
• 1:11:22
  I see i'm doing it. So he had everybody there
• 1:11:24
  He was explaining it showing how you do it
• 1:11:26
  You know, this is this is how you throw it properly and this is what you're going for and it was like a history of darts
• 1:11:31
  And I was thinking god, you know, like you could really imagine that imagine if you did play darts for your friends
• 1:11:37
  Like that's like getting tutored by a gold medalist. He was like a big deal in serbia
• 1:11:42
  I bet he goes and I bet he walks into bars and he's like, oh, is this a game of darts? It takes everybody's money
• 1:11:48
  So
• 1:11:49
  They did that then they had a darts tournament later on so like, you know, there's just there's always some fun thing like that
• 1:11:55
  that's going on
• 1:11:57
  You get invited to a place and you're gonna learn how to play darts from some champion, you know
• 1:12:02
  Things like that happen at a narco polko. Also, I'll tell you what
• 1:12:05
  a narco polko slash liber polko
• 1:12:09
  these conferences
• 1:12:11
  They started off as anti-government, you know, and and and they are I guess at their core. It's really the theme
• 1:12:18
  but
• 1:12:19
  They both have incorporated health and wellness into it and it's important to do that and I and I say the most anarchist thing you can do
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  is take control your own body to make sure that you don't have to outsource it to the state to the to the
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  government hospitals to
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  to
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  People who don't want what's best for you to to a system that benefits from keeping you sick
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  Right take control of your body take control of your health
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  And do what you can so I'm not surprised that we had health and wellness speakers there
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  Christian your nerves there is a new book is out on the dangers of fasting if you guys are interested
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  I wrote the forward to the book
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  If you are somebody who who's been fasting
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  And you've been and you've had benefits from fasting
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  Christian is it has written this book. He will explain it to you how
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  You're doing it wrong and and and it's and there's science behind this too
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  And it's a polarizing thing because a lot of people have fasted and felt great because of it and who explained to you
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  Why that is so if you're interested you can go to amazon type in christian jordan of his new book about fasting
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  Actually, he's going to be on here pretty soon
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  To
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  Talk with me. He's the editor of my of my new book as well
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  So we're going to talk about my new book and we're going to talk about his new book
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  We both had books coming out within like a month of each other, which is crazy. So
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  And by the way, and he's been a sponsor of this
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  His live longer formula if you're interested in signing up for that
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  Like he's my certified health practitioner, man. I don't know how to there's no greater compliment
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  I can give the guy except that I trust him with my life
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  And if you're sick and you're feeling bad and you're you have gut issues or your hormones are out of whack
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  You're not sleeping
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  Reach out to him. You could do a six month program. You can do a year program
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  I've met a lot of people who are working with him and continue to work with him
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  um
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  Yeah, I do I work with him you tell I
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  You get these supplements
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  You know, these are the ones you want stay away from this this and this but get these, you know
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  It's it's a great resource. Um, dr. Robert Zareviko was there. He's a sleep chiropractor. Oh my god. This guy was doing the craziest shit
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  Are you okay? Do you have problems breathing?
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  At night when you sleep if you have problems breathing at night you if you breathe from your mouth
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  I had no idea about this. There are some really bad health
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  ramifications of breathing through your mouth. I found out speaking of christian christian and I were talking
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  Um, we were actually watching the presentation together. I was like, this is fucking crazy to me that this guy
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  He puts balloons in your nose inflates them and expands your the cavity in your airway. I watched I watched a video of him doing it to burwick
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  it is
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  It looks like a very very very uncomfortable three seconds and then it's over and then they pull the thing out and your
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  Your airways are re inflated like opened up quite quite literally opened up
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  But I was talking to christian about this. I was like
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  What is this taping your mouth shut? He's saying, oh you got to you tape your mouth your kids mouth shut
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  At when they're when they're kids and it teaches them to learn to breathe through their nose
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  I was like, oh my god, that sounds like child abuse like barbaric
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  Like I've never heard taping your kids mouth shut and christian turns to me goes. I tape my mouth shut every night
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  I was like what he's like. Yeah, you get this. There's a special kind of tape
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  And you tape your mouth shut it forces you to breathe through your nose
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  and after I got done listening to all the reasons why
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  You your brain like the benefits to breathing through your nose. I was like, oh my god, it totally makes sense. This guy is
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  Performing miracles here, right? So
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  I get an education on this stuff too, you know, I you think you know
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  You think you know and then you go and you find out something you didn't know
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  so um
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  So he's there, you know, there's a guy like that there there's workshops on meditation and breathing this guy put
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  christian and I through this uh
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  meditation breathing
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  workshop
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  Just sitting at a picnic table. We both sat there and he
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  put us through it and like
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  Chilled us right out. I mean it was it's amazing. So there's a lot of things going on
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  but I I said that I would tell you what my potential customs issue was
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  And and why I thought there was going to be um
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  A tesla machine or or two in there in the healing centers that the um that they're planning to build it
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  At arc village two
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  Well, I you know went in Serbia
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  Went in the hometown of nicola tesla. I came home with a tesla machine
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  The kind that berwick was talking about if you if you went back go back and listen to that interview
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  I did with jeff just from a couple weeks ago
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  The teslas stuff when you tell somebody about it the first time
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  The the immediate responses it sounds like bullshit and and to be fair
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  I agree it
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  You think it sounds like bullshit
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  Wait until you see it
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  I mean it's it it's not gonna look any better either, right?
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  So I've got one now and it is it's the size of a small
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  Carry on you know like the stan international size carry-ons that are like a little bit smaller than
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  Traditional american size carry-ons. It's that size. It's got little wheels on it in a handle. You can roll it
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  You definitely don't want to
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  I didn't want to put it in my carry-on, you know, I wanted to check
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  I didn't really want to check it, but I felt like I had to check it
• 1:17:51
  It looks like a suitcase nuke. Okay. I mean, let's just be honest here. You open that thing up and
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  somebody who doesn't know what it is like the
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  Border guard in hungary that I had to show it to because it was in the trunk of the car
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  We go through the security
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  They open it up. They pull us out and pull me out of the car
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  Open up the trunk make sure there aren't any I don't know people in there
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  Open up this suitcase. I open it up the guy takes one look at it
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  He goes what is it and I go it's a medical device and it's got light bulbs or anything
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  You know, obviously it's not plugged in so it's not it's not buzzing or zapping or anything
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  And I just held my breath, you know because it is a medical device and it looks like it could be a medical device
• 1:18:29
  But if this guy had it in his head that somebody is coming across the the border today
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  We have a report that somebody is going to be smuggling a suitcase nuke across the border
• 1:18:39
  They would have put handcuffs on me immediately and I wouldn't have blamed them for it, right?
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  So you definitely don't want to take it in your carry-on, but you can check it
• 1:18:47
  And it's just the medical device drop a little zip tie through one of the parts of the handle keep make sure it's locked and
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  And so so the results how how has it been? I've only had it for a couple of days now. I've used it now
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  three times
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  Since I've had it
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  I have had so I'll just give you my personal experience with it
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  I my expectation with any of this stuff is that it's going to take a while to fix things, right?
• 1:19:15
  It takes a while to de-generate yourself. It's going to take a while to fix it
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  That is my assumption and maybe i'm right in making that assumption usually
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  But I have a left shoulder situation. It's not it. I don't know how I don't know what it is
• 1:19:32
  It it can't be a tear, but it's definitely something
• 1:19:36
  It's preventing my range of motion when I'm doing
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  Incline bench press with dumbbells. I can tell there's a there's a part where it hitches
• 1:19:44
  There's a hitch where it's like you got to get it just up above that hitch, right?
• 1:19:49
  There's something stuck there and people who lift weights, you know what I'm talking about
• 1:19:52
  And it's not like it's a lot of weight. It's just that you get to the point when you realize there's like
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  Oh, there's something like a knot or something
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  That went away after one session
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  One session and I'm mindful of it, right? Because I know I'm I'm expecting so that I did it
• 1:20:10
  Next day I went in the gym next day. I did incline bench press and I didn't hurt it
• 1:20:15
  I I wanted to cry. I was so happy. I couldn't
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  I
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  I simultaneously couldn't believe it and also kind of could believe it too
• 1:20:26
  Because it it does something to you. It's plasma technology, right?
• 1:20:30
  So it's pulling plasma out of the ether running it through these cables into these
• 1:20:35
  Light bulbs that you rub on your body and it zaps you and it sparks like it looks like an a spencer's gift
• 1:20:41
  You know like with the the the zapping ball, you know, you've seen the plasma ball
• 1:20:45
  You put your finger on it and the the lightning light goes to your finger
• 1:20:48
  It looks exactly like that and if you if you just picture how stupid you would look in a spencer gift
• 1:20:53
  Rubbing one of those all over your body. That's how dumb you look
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  Rubbing one all over your body with it with a tesla machine except the problem is it works
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  That's the thing is that it works my shoulder again
• 1:21:05
  Now I've gone to the gym again after it and I'm like I'm now I'm like let's kind of let's test it same thing
• 1:21:10
  I did shoulders today like specifically. I was working on my shoulders to test it
• 1:21:15
  Fine felt fine. I was like this is amazing now full disclosure
• 1:21:20
  I also have a situation with my right elbow and I put it on my right elbow my right elbow
• 1:21:25
  I still feel so now I've done three sessions with it and it doesn't hurt as much
• 1:21:29
  But I still feel but whatever let's say it takes 10 sessions. I don't care. I got a machine
• 1:21:34
  I'll do it every morning for the rest of my life from now on
• 1:21:37
  So I am on a path towards healing myself with this crazy machine and I swear to god
• 1:21:43
  When you see one of them if your first instinct isn't to laugh
• 1:21:47
  Well, then maybe you've been listening to the show and you now you know what it is
• 1:21:50
  But everybody else is gonna is gonna rightly mock you the first time you roll one of those out at a party and say
• 1:21:56
  This is the greatest healing device ever invented. Everybody's gonna they're gonna laugh
• 1:22:00
  They're gonna laugh at you at first until you fix their
• 1:22:03
  knee
• 1:22:04
  And then they're gonna want they're gonna ask you where they can get one. Well, we'll see about where you can get one
• 1:22:10
  I think right now
• 1:22:12
  Right now the technology is
• 1:22:15
  is
• 1:22:16
  Pretty hot it might it might might be hot in a sense that
• 1:22:20
  Might be hot on some on people's radar looking to to to suppress this. So I'm gonna be
• 1:22:26
  I'll be careful with with with talking about this to the extent that I can
• 1:22:31
  But um, look this this this stuff is out there. It exists. You can look it up plasma
• 1:22:37
  Plasma therapy technology. It's it's a real thing. It's not um, I mean it seems like it doesn't work, but it does so
• 1:22:46
  Anyway, and then so that was it. That was my that was my experience
• 1:22:49
  So I just want to give you guys a little background on Lieberland
• 1:22:51
  In case you you'll hear about it in the future and you'll wonder who are who is this? What are you guys doing?
• 1:22:57
  Um, why is an anarchist group partnering with a state status group who's creating this country?
• 1:23:03
  Yeah, you'll understand when you see it. It's statism light
• 1:23:07
  And uh, when done the way they do it, there's some ways that help you navigate dealing with the current state situation
• 1:23:14
  Which you have to so one foot in one foot out. I mean
• 1:23:18
  Whether you're at a narcopulco Lieberpulco non-conformist series. The point is always about solutions. That's what they're focused on, right? It says if you have
• 1:23:29
  Um, you know anything else is just complaining
• 1:23:32
  Right and we're good at that and we and we write to complain
• 1:23:35
  There's a lot of things to complain about
• 1:23:36
  But if you're not also offering people a path out of it, then I think you're doing them a disservice
• 1:23:42
  Uh, that's why I'd activist post one of our sections is the solutions category is why our are
• 1:23:48
  Twice when twice the monthly
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  Email campaign is called the solution series. I mean, that's what we're about
• 1:23:55
  Maybe maybe Lieberland will be of an option for for people in the future, you know
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  Um, and at least they're trying right or they might not be getting everything right
• 1:24:05
  But at least they're trying they're they're doing the things that they need to do
• 1:24:08
  So I I enjoyed I enjoyed a few Lieber beers there and Apeton that week plus some organic cigars
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  Um
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  It's a nice celebration for a long journey and hard work
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  Um all week long
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  Hope to see you guys in mexico for a narcopulco
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