Latest / Brian Thomas / Congressman Warren Davidson joins Brian Thomas this morning
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Congratulations. You are the Taxpayer Defender of the Month. Warren Davidson,
- 0:04Speaker 1: your reaction to this award? We're going to be talking
- 0:06Speaker 1: to Brandon Arnold, the Vice President of the National Taxpayer Union,
- 0:08Speaker 1: who bestowed this award on you. He'll have him on
- 0:11Speaker 1: the program coming up at 8.05. So what did you
- 0:14Speaker 1: do to deserve that?
- 0:16Speaker 2: Well, I was just surprised somebody noticed. You go through
- 0:19Speaker 2: there and you're like, hey, people pay attention to these
- 0:21Speaker 2: wonky things. And we're out there spending money like crazy
- 0:27Speaker 2: and trying harder to spend even more. So back in July,
- 0:30Speaker 2: they had a plan to spend $ 95 billion. Uh, and no,
- 0:35Speaker 2: there's a rule in the house that says you're supposed
- 0:38Speaker 2: to pay for the spending, either find revenue or cut
- 0:43Speaker 2: spending elsewhere. Uh, and of course they waived the rules, uh,
- 0:46Speaker 2: almost every time, uh, that would be an issue. So
- 0:50Speaker 2: they just spend it. There's no way to pay for it.
- 0:54Speaker 2: And so I offered amendments to pay for it.
- 0:59Speaker 1: Well, you said there's a rule that you got to
- 1:02Speaker 1: find the source of the money before you can spend it.
- 1:04Speaker 1: How do we end up $ 40 trillion in the whole
- 1:06Speaker 1: Congressman Davidson?
- 1:09Speaker 2: Well, they obviously waived the rules quite a lot, right?
- 1:12Speaker 2: So this is the thing. You pass these rules. It's like,
- 1:15Speaker 2: Oh no, there's a rule for that. We're not supposed
- 1:17Speaker 2: to do that. And they waive the rules all the time.
- 1:20Speaker 2: And in fact, this was the infuriating thing the week before,
- 1:23Speaker 2: you know, we've got this major Richard Starr act, which
- 1:26Speaker 2: is supposed to, you know, do a better job of
- 1:28Speaker 2: taking care of veterans. There's an anomaly there where medically
- 1:31Speaker 2: retired veterans, uh, aren't really cared for the same way
- 1:36Speaker 2: as fully retired veterans are. So they get shorted and
- 1:39Speaker 2: you're medically retired because you get injured and can't continue
- 1:43Speaker 2: to serve, but they believe, you know, so anyway, the
- 1:46Speaker 2: quirk there to get it fixed and to do that
- 1:50Speaker 2: common sense fix, uh, they're like, no, you have to
- 1:53Speaker 2: have a pay for, well, The bill failed because we
- 1:56Speaker 2: couldn't agree on the pay for. So we still haven't
- 2:00Speaker 2: fixed that. But then the following week, it's like, no,
- 2:02Speaker 2: we need $ 95 billion for some other purposes. We fund
- 2:07Speaker 2: the war in Iran, subsidize some farm issues and pay
- 2:11Speaker 2: for some disasters. And I'm like, well, I want to
- 2:15Speaker 2: offer amendments to pay for it. And so I found
- 2:18Speaker 2: $ 95 billion in spending, which is the most basic layup.
- 2:23Speaker 2: But then I found three other amendments that could go
- 2:26Speaker 2: all the way up. One went all the way up
- 2:28Speaker 2: to $ 4 trillion of savings. So there's plenty of ways
- 2:32Speaker 2: to cut fraud, waste, and abuse or things that aren't
- 2:34Speaker 2: even constitutional that the federal government's doing. And it's not
- 2:39Speaker 2: that they're not important. If the states want to do them, fine.
- 2:41Speaker 2: But there's no constitutional role for the federal government in
- 2:45Speaker 2: a lot of things.
- 2:46Speaker 1: Fair enough. And congratulations again on Taxpayer Defender of the Month.
- 2:49Speaker 1: Moving over to the freakout over artificial intelligence. And we
- 2:53Speaker 1: get these corporate CEOs at AI companies coming out and saying, look, 10%
- 2:57Speaker 1: chance we're all going to die within a decade and
- 2:59Speaker 1: other nonsense like that. And everyone freaks out. And they
- 3:01Speaker 1: collectively are demanding that you save them from yourself or
- 3:05Speaker 1: from themselves. We need legislation passed. We need to coordinate efforts.
- 3:10Speaker 1: It just seems to me after all the initial freak
- 3:13Speaker 1: out happened that we got cooler heads. And a moment later,
- 3:16Speaker 1: we're like, wait a second. This sounds to me like
- 3:19Speaker 1: they're trying to avoid Sherman Antitrust Act because they need
- 3:21Speaker 1: to work together in order to save us from these harms.
- 3:24Speaker 1: It looks like they're trying to get some protections from
- 3:26Speaker 1: product liability law because people know how dangerous AI can
- 3:29Speaker 1: be when it's unleashed. And yet the Chinese Communist Party
- 3:32Speaker 1: busily working away and has no problem with any of
- 3:35Speaker 1: this because our liability laws and our antitrust laws do
- 3:38Speaker 1: not reach into China. Is this all about the IPO
- 3:41Speaker 1: and improving the value of the share price when they
- 3:43Speaker 1: finally announce that they're doing an IPO? Congressman Davidson, where
- 3:47Speaker 1: are you on this?
- 3:49Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think it's a coordinated op. I mean,
- 3:51Speaker 2: in my view, there's already a little collaboration because they
- 3:54Speaker 2: decided to launch this coordinated messaging program together. If you
- 3:59Speaker 2: go back to May of last year, the House version
- 4:04Speaker 2: of the Big Beautiful Bill had a 10-year blanket exemption
- 4:09Speaker 2: for any liability for artificial intelligence companies. That was in
- 4:13Speaker 2: the text, and that was one of the reasons I
- 4:16Speaker 2: voted no on the House version. So we raised a
- 4:19Speaker 2: stink over that. The public heard about it. They weren't
- 4:22Speaker 2: real happy with it. We got the forced vote on
- 4:25Speaker 2: removing that portion in the Senate bill. And it passed
- 4:29Speaker 2: 99 to 1 because when people had to go on
- 4:32Speaker 2: record saying, well, they know it's a terrible idea. And
- 4:39Speaker 2: so we removed it. So that's a big deal. So
- 4:41Speaker 2: then fast forward here this year. this is exactly what
- 4:45Speaker 2: the AI companies are wanting, either, you know, blanket exemption
- 4:50Speaker 2: from liability. But just yesterday, the CEO of Palantir said, hey,
- 4:53Speaker 2: I think AI companies ought to be nationalized. And why?
- 4:57Speaker 2: Because you get sovereign immunity. So they can still do
- 5:01Speaker 2: all the things they want to do. But, you know,
- 5:04Speaker 2: so I think that we're into kind of crazy land
- 5:07Speaker 2: here with a lot of things on AI. And unfortunately,
- 5:10Speaker 2: Congress really isn't taking action on this. And Look, privacy
- 5:14Speaker 2: really is the base layer for this because they're harvesting
- 5:17Speaker 2: just massive amounts of data in every facet of your life, car, phone, internet, bank,
- 5:25Speaker 2: you name it. And then now AI will say, well,
- 5:28Speaker 2: we don't have a database. Well, they don't. They have
- 5:31Speaker 2: large language models that go out and harvest it from
- 5:34Speaker 2: everywhere it's accessible. And the kind of things that you
- 5:37Speaker 2: can pull up with a strong artificial intelligence tool I've
- 5:43Speaker 2: seen demos of it. I mean, you can, you know,
- 5:45Speaker 2: you can even find, the most shocking thing was you
- 5:48Speaker 2: could find maybe the last three or four phones that
- 5:52Speaker 2: someone has had. Oh yeah. The advertising ID for that
- 5:55Speaker 2: phone and literally browse, essentially their browser history. What is
- 6:00Speaker 2: it that you like to do with your phone? And it's,
- 6:04Speaker 2: it's all available out there. And so, you know, once
- 6:07Speaker 2: you get access to those kinds of things, plus the
- 6:11Speaker 2: ability to break encryption and do all kinds of other
- 6:13Speaker 2: things that the leading edge of technology is capable of.
- 6:19Speaker 2: I mean, there's going to be some liability for something.
- 6:23Speaker 1: Well, and the other component is, before we get into
- 6:25Speaker 1: the break here, people are expecting Vivek Ramaswamy next. I
- 6:28Speaker 1: recorded my interview with Vivek Ramaswamy after the show yesterday,
- 6:30Speaker 1: so we're going to kick that off in order to
- 6:33Speaker 1: keep you on. But I just have to comment, the
- 6:35Speaker 1: other thing that, ai is doing it is monetizing because
- 6:38Speaker 1: it artificial intelligence i mean these corporations aren't doing this
- 6:41Speaker 1: out of altruism they're doing doing it for purpose of
- 6:42Speaker 1: profitability right so when they absorb all literally every single
- 6:47Speaker 1: word of content out in the world and they're doing
- 6:49Speaker 1: that they're monetizing copywritten and protected work that other people's
- 6:53Speaker 1: work and effort and labor uh have created without compensating
- 6:57Speaker 1: that person that seems to be a problem i mean
- 6:59Speaker 1: when we play songs on the radio we got to
- 7:01Speaker 1: compensate the artist it seems to be the same argument
- 7:04Speaker 1: doesn't it congressman davidson.
- 7:06Speaker 2: Oh, very much so, and they're malicious about it. I mean,
- 7:09Speaker 2: they got caught buying rare books and destroying them. So
- 7:12Speaker 2: they literally have machines that slice the binding off the
- 7:15Speaker 2: back of the book, and then they're just scanning the
- 7:18Speaker 2: pages of text in, and they want to buy up
- 7:20Speaker 2: the book so the physical copy isn't even available. And
- 7:24Speaker 2: this is truly Orwellian because then you're like, well, that's
- 7:28Speaker 2: not what this book says. Oh, yeah, it is. It's
- 7:30Speaker 2: right here. They're like, no, no, I have a paper copy. Oh,
- 7:34Speaker 2: those are illegals. Yeah, right.
- 7:35Speaker 1: We're getting rid of this. It's Fahrenheit 451. Ah, for
- 7:40Speaker 1: whatever reason, there's a scene in Rollerball the medium popped
- 7:43Speaker 1: in mind as well. Exact same kind of thing. We'll
- 7:45Speaker 1: continue with Congressman Warren Davidson. We'll talk about ARC, the
- 7:49Speaker 1: talk station.
- 7:51Speaker 2: It is 730, 55KRC, the talk station.
- 7:59Speaker 1: And a very, very happy Friday to you. Congressman Warren
- 8:01Speaker 1: Davidson on the program. We'll get to Vivek Ramaswamy again,
- 8:03Speaker 1: recorded yesterday, so I can't talk to him about his
- 8:06Speaker 1: most recent endorsement. And good morning, Christopher Smith, who let
- 8:08Speaker 1: me know that Vivek Ramaswamy just scored the Carpenters Union endorsement,
- 8:12Speaker 1: which is an interesting situation, Congressman Davidson, because they normally
- 8:16Speaker 1: endorse Democrats. So that's interesting. You got any comments about
- 8:21Speaker 1: Vivek being neck and neck with Amy Acton? I don't
- 8:23Speaker 1: mean to put you on the spot. If you don't
- 8:24Speaker 1: want to talk about it, that's okay. But I am
- 8:26Speaker 1: really perplexed. This is Ohio. We are not even a
- 8:29Speaker 1: purple state.
- 8:29Speaker 2: We're blue.
- 8:30Speaker 1: How could it even be possible? Congressman Davidson, do you mind?
- 8:34Speaker 2: No, I'm a big Vivek Ramaswamy fan. I mean, he's
- 8:37Speaker 2: a good guy. I've known him about 10 years. Brilliant.
- 8:40Speaker 2: Phenomenally successful. I mean, grew up right there, you know,
- 8:44Speaker 2: Princeton High School area. And, of course, went to St. Eck's. And,
- 8:49Speaker 2: you know, people are, I mean, just awed whenever you
- 8:54Speaker 2: see him speak. I mean, I look at him in
- 8:57Speaker 2: working crowds and he came up to the Dark County Fair,
- 9:00Speaker 2: had hundreds of people coming out to see him. I
- 9:02Speaker 2: think there's kind of an AstroTurf campaign out there saying
- 9:05Speaker 2: people don't support Vivek. And I'm like, well, I mean,
- 9:08Speaker 2: bikers for Trump support Trump, support Vivek. I mean, you
- 9:12Speaker 2: get intellectual support in Trump or support in Vivek. So
- 9:17Speaker 2: you look at it, and they have spun up some
- 9:20Speaker 2: level of concern about Vivek. And Amy Acton is nothing.
- 9:25Speaker 2: I mean, that's why she's avoiding a lot of things
- 9:27Speaker 2: in public. She can't string two sentences together. And it's
- 9:34Speaker 2: not just the ability to speak about things. It's just
- 9:38Speaker 2: looking at, well, what have you done? So the resume
- 9:42Speaker 2: isn't close. Who would you want to hire to run
- 9:45Speaker 2: your state? And it's mind blowing to me that Amy
- 9:49Speaker 2: Acton could, could even be within, you know, 10 margins
- 9:52Speaker 2: of error. But apparently she is on a lot of
- 9:55Speaker 2: these polls.
- 9:56Speaker 1: No question about it. And, you know, even I just,
- 9:58Speaker 1: I'd mean to be critical of her as a, person
- 10:00Speaker 1: because nobody's great at public speaking but you're going to
- 10:02Speaker 1: be governor of a state of ohio you better have
- 10:04Speaker 1: some measure of skill in that regard her her own
- 10:07Speaker 1: commercials with her speaking kind of you wait a second
- 10:12Speaker 1: this is the best they can provide by way of
- 10:14Speaker 1: her articulating a word or two about her campaign and
- 10:17Speaker 1: I mean, that would have been take one, but I
- 10:19Speaker 1: can only imagine how many takes they did before they
- 10:21Speaker 1: got the final one out on the air. It suggests
- 10:23Speaker 1: something really bad is going on over there. Anyhow, vote
- 10:27Speaker 1: Ramos for me. He'll be on next. Let's go back
- 10:29Speaker 1: to the Clarity Act, the Digital Asset Market Clarity Act,
- 10:32Speaker 1: which failed in the Senate the other day. What's your
- 10:34Speaker 1: take on this?
- 10:36Speaker 2: Well, I'm not surprised that it failed. The Democrats have
- 10:39Speaker 2: never negotiated in good faith on this. We had a
- 10:42Speaker 2: challenge on it in the House. And I think we
- 10:44Speaker 2: ultimately reached a point where we just said, look, we're
- 10:46Speaker 2: going to call the question. We're going to put it
- 10:48Speaker 2: on the floor. And, uh, you know, it was an
- 10:51Speaker 2: issue that unites Republicans and divides Democrats in the house. Uh,
- 10:56Speaker 2: Democrats did not, uh, stick together and just refuse to
- 11:00Speaker 2: break ranks. The Senate has kind of become that way.
- 11:03Speaker 2: There's only, you know, 47 of them over there. So
- 11:07Speaker 2: they just stick together. And, uh, In the House, we
- 11:10Speaker 2: had about 70 Democrats just say, well, I think this
- 11:14Speaker 2: is a common sense bill. And we had no problem
- 11:17Speaker 2: passing it in the House and in a bipartisan way.
- 11:20Speaker 2: But the Senate's basically just dug in over there and
- 11:23Speaker 2: on all kinds of issues. And if they think it
- 11:25Speaker 2: might mean Donald Trump should get credit for some sort
- 11:28Speaker 2: of win, they're not giving they're not giving ground. If
- 11:32Speaker 2: they think that's good, that's it's 100 percent. I mean,
- 11:37Speaker 2: it's it's a lot of it's anti Trump. But I
- 11:40Speaker 2: will say Elizabeth Warren is a ringleader over there. She
- 11:44Speaker 2: used to control Sherrod Brown. She really ran the Senate
- 11:48Speaker 2: Banking Committee that Sherrod Brown was officially in charge of,
- 11:52Speaker 2: and she had this anti-crypto army. So everything on financial
- 11:56Speaker 2: services and banking, Elizabeth Warren really is the ringleader for
- 12:02Speaker 2: Democrats and has been for years. And Sherrod Brown was
- 12:06Speaker 2: over there doing Elizabeth Warren's bidding the whole time. which
- 12:10Speaker 2: is why two years ago, he lost. I mean, Bernie
- 12:15Speaker 2: Marino had lots of support from a lot of industries.
- 12:20Speaker 2: The crypto fintech area was one of the big ones
- 12:24Speaker 2: that supported him because Sher Brown had been working to
- 12:27Speaker 2: kill this industry. And the main reason they're trying to
- 12:30Speaker 2: kill it, frankly, is the biggest banks and government surveillance.
- 12:34Speaker 2: So Freedom is something that Democrats have decided is a
- 12:39Speaker 2: bad thing. And they don't want you to control your
- 12:42Speaker 2: own payments. They want everything to stay account-based. And one
- 12:46Speaker 2: of the provisions that they insisted in getting in the
- 12:48Speaker 2: bill still didn't get them to yes was Section 305.
- 12:52Speaker 2: And it gives the government the ability to freeze your
- 12:55Speaker 2: bank account as if you're a Canadian trucker. And it
- 13:00Speaker 2: gives the liability shield for the financial institution. That's just
- 13:05Speaker 2: following orders from the government. This isn't orders as in, well,
- 13:10Speaker 2: we had an order from a judge. There was some
- 13:12Speaker 2: due process. You could appeal it. It's a civil asset forfeiture.
- 13:17Speaker 2: We're going to take your stuff and then get around
- 13:20Speaker 2: to due process later. And so there's provisions like that
- 13:24Speaker 2: in this bill, and it still didn't get Democrats to yes. Well.
- 13:28Speaker 1: I guess we can chalk that off as a good thing.
- 13:30Speaker 1: Congressman Warren Davidson, I know it's in your district. I
- 13:32Speaker 1: believe it is. 22-3 on Route 42 between Mason 11
- 13:34Speaker 1: and the NRA. Gun bus is going to be there
- 13:36Speaker 1: on Thursday between 10 and 2. And by good word,
- 13:40Speaker 1: and I didn't ask him yesterday when I interviewed Ramos,
- 13:42Speaker 1: apparently he is likely to be there. And Eric Conroy also,
- 13:46Speaker 1: I was told, is going to be there. If you've
- 13:48Speaker 1: got any time between 10 and 2, I plan on
- 13:50Speaker 1: showing up at 22-3. That's my favorite gun store, Congressman Davidson.
- 13:53Speaker 1: So if you've got some time, I just wanted to
- 13:54Speaker 1: let you know that that was coming to the area.
- 13:56Speaker 1: Apparently a very popular thing. Congressman Davidson, I want to
- 13:59Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining the program and spending
- 14:01Speaker 1: time with my listeners and me. And congratulations again on
- 14:03Speaker 1: being the Taxpayer Defender of the Month. Well-deserved, and you
- 14:05Speaker 1: can keep up the great work along those lines.
- 14:07Speaker 2: It's an honor to join you, Brian. My apologies for
- 14:11Speaker 2: the tardy start here. Thanks for highlighting Vivek and Eric Conroy,
- 14:14Speaker 2: two really strong candidates. And I hope folks will go
- 14:18Speaker 2: out and support them. But thank you for doing so.
- 14:21Speaker 2: Happy to do it. God bless you and all your listeners.
- 14:22Speaker 1: And to you, sir. Thanks again. 737, Vivek Ramaswamy, coming
- 14:25Speaker 1: on next. We'll talk to you.