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Mega Edition: The Virginia Roberts Deposition That Helped Expose Epstein And Maxwell (Part 16-18) (7/11/23) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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Speaker 1: What's up everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
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In this episode, we're gonna pick right back up where
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we left off with the Virginia Roberts deposition manager. All right,
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since these emails come from your email address to and
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from Paulo Silva, do you have any reason to doubt
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that they are your emails? Virginia, I have no reason
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to doubt, Menager. All right. Do you recall a Sandra White, Virginia. Yes,
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she was a possible ghostwriter that I was going to use.
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Sharon recommended that I got a ghostwriter to be involved,
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and we nearly settled on some kind of agreement, but
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I wasn't really happy with the agreement in the end,
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so I decided not to use her. Manager. You weren't
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happy with the terms of her price, if you will, Virginia, Yes, Menager,
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and so you didn't come to an agreement with her, correct, Virginia.
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We nearly did, but in the end we did not, Menager.
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All right, if I can show you defendants exhibit whoo
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eighteen Edwards, you did kill a tree there, Menager. Take
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a look at that exhibit eighteen marked so put this
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one away. Edwards. Put these in some sort of order.
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They don't have to be perfect, but just so you
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know what you're looking at, this is eighteen Menager. All right, again,
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do you recognize the email address Virginia. It's mine, manager,
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and it's from and to Sandra White, correct Virginia. Correct Manager.
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And the date is in or around May twenty fifth,
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June fifth, something like that, Virginia. It's Australian, so it's backwards.
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So it's the sixth of May twenty eleven. Manager. Well,
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I would have thought that, except the bottom email is
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May twenty fourth, the middle one is May twenty fifth,
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and the most recent one says six'. Five SO i
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DON'T i don't. KNOW i didn't write the Document. Virginia, Yeah,
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manager But i'm asking if you believe it was in
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or around the end Of, May. Virginia the only REASON
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i can tell you that is because if you look,
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here twenty four five eleven is the way that we
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actually do our dates In, australia whereas In america you
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would do five twenty four. Eleven so right here where
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it's written makes it nice and. Clear but just to be,
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clear the dates are, Backwards. Menager, Right so if an
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email is responding To may twenty, fifth is it more
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or less likely that it was written On june fifth
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Or may? Sixth edwards objects to, form and Then virginia
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goes on to, RESPOND i would Say may, Sixth. Menager
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so when responded To may twenty, Fifth virginia cuts her.
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Off oh, no you're. Right, No i'm, Sorry i'm going
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backwards because it's going, up isn't it? Okay, Yes? Menager all, Right,
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Virginia i'm confused, Too. Menager, anyway in the last, email
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it Says i'm very sad we won't be able to work,
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together As i've been very excited about the. Project as you,
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KNOW i do not sell synopsis or individual, chapters and
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especially not for those. Amounts i'm merely intrigued about where
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you were getting advice. From rest assured what we have
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worked on is. Confidential if you change your, mind let me.
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Know so that was Around june, Fifth, virginia twenty, Eleven
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manager twenty, eleven, Right, virginia, yes all. Right so you
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had been trying to reach an agreement With Sandra white
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prior To june, Fifth, virginia, Correct, manager and you were
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unable to do. So, Virginia, Yes, manager and not that
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you need to read every. Page but is it fair
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to say that you exchanged some portions of your synopsis
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With sandra during the course of your interactions with? Her. Virginia,
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yes and she rewrote some portion of it as, well
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WHICH i don't even. Know it might be in, here
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it might not be in. HERE i don't know What
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i've kept or not. Kept. Menager, Okay and did you
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get your advice From Sharon churcher with respects to the
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terms upon which you should be looking for the ghostwriting? Agreement.
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Virginia sharon is the one who introduced me To. SANDRA
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i can't remember who was giving me the. Advice it's
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going back so long, ago you. KNOW i don't want
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to pinpoint somebody and say it was definitely them if it.
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Wasn't so, Yeah i'm just not going to comment on
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that one without. Knowing. Menager, okay you probably have, emails,
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though do you think Perhaps. VIRGINIA i haven't seen these
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emails since twenty, eleven So, Menager, Okay i'm going to
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show you Defendants exhibit. Nineteen exhibit nineteen Marked. Menager who
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Is Mary Anne? Strong. Virginia she's my literary, agent, menager all,
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right can you identify defendants exhibit number? Nineteen. Virginia i'm, sorry,
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manager can you identify what Defendants exhibit nineteen? Is, virginia
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Defendants exhibit nineteen like the number at the? Bottom? Menager,
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no do you know what kind of document this? Is? Virginia,
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oh it's an email from me to Mary Anne. Strong
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manager all, right and at roughly what time? Frame Virginia february,
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twentieth twenty. Fourteen, manager all, right and what were you
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speaking with Mary anne or writing with Mary Anne strong, About?
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Virginia CAN i just read it real quick And i'll tell. You. Manager.
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Sure there's a pause, Then virginia says. Sure. Manager do
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you remember now the topic upon which you and Mary
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Anne strong were exchanging? Communication, VIRGINIA i don't recall talking about,
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redacted redacted and. REDACTED i don't know Who emily, is
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BUT i do understand what she's. Saying IF i, win
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then my story would be a much better. Story or? Right?
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Manager and what case is you're referring? To if you, Know,
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VIRGINIA i think this was regarding probably the time WHEN
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i was in trying to get involved in THE cvra.
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Case manager In february of twenty, Fourteen, virginia, Correct. Menager,
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Okay and at the bottom of the page there's an
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email from you to. Her Correct, VIRGINIA i haven't read
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that part. Yet give me one, Moment. Menager, Yeah. Virginia.
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Thanks so it cuts off after, that does? It? Manager? Yep,
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Virginia oh, sorry pauses. Again, Okay i've read. It, manager all.
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Right do you remember that email, Now. Virginia it's going
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back a long time, ago but it definitely my kind of, Writing. Menager.
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Okay so in the on the bottom of the first,
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page thirty four, seventeen you represented To Mary Anne strong
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that you would serve four years As Jeffrey epstein's personal
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and abuse sex. Slave Correct. Virginia Correct, manager that is not, True, Correct,
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virginia since we have now found out the factual, dates
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it is not. Correct. Menager. OKAY i want to turn the,
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page the second, page on the first, line the first
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full sentence that begins on the first. Line even, though,
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oh there is over forty women that were once vulnerable
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girls that look like the sweet girl next, door but
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now that they have been taken advantage of by this
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Disgusting Wall street, tyrant most of them have led a
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very unhealthy lifestyle since having Served, jeffrey such as drug
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addictions and, prostitution and do not hold a creditation to.
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Talk you wrote, that, Correct. Virginia, Correct, Manager who are
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the forty women that you're talking? About? Virginia WHEN i
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spoke to THE, fbi they told me that they Were
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and this is maybe just a. Guestman maybe there was,
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More maybe there was less that they, said but they
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told me that there was a lot of other victims
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involved in the, case and this is. ONE i believe
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that THE fbi came to see me and that they
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were willing to reopen the case and do something about. It. Manager,
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okay so THE fbi is the one that told you
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that there were forty Women. Virginia it could be less than.
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Forty it could be more than. FORTY i THINK i
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just summed it up to. Forty, manager you came up
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with Forty. Virginia, WELL i didn't just come up with.
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FORTY i think it was around that. Number it could
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be forty, six it could be thirty. Nine i'm not
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too sure to be. Exact, menager all, right but you
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based it On virginia interrupts on my Speaking menager. Interrupts
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What virginia responds with THE? Fbi, Menager, okay and and to,
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That edwards, Interrupts just let her finish your question before you.
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ANSWER i just want the record, Clear. Menager who at
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THE fbi did you speak, With. VIRGINIA i can't think
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of his. NAME i spoke To oh, GOD i can't
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think of his name right. NOW i spoke to a
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male and a, female AND i also spoke To Maria
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Villa fauna about everything that was. Happening, Menager is It
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Jason Richards, Virginia Jason? Richards? Yes. Manager Did Jason richards
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tell you that THE fbi was reopening their, Case? Virginia
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he wanted to reopen the. Case and the last conversation
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THAT i had with, HIM i can't remember when it.
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Was he said that he was having trouble doing it
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from the people above. Him. Manager, okay when was, That?
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Virginia LIKE i, SAID i don't, know. Manager was it
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like a year, ago two years ago or three years? Ago.
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VIRGINIA i don't remember the last TIME i talked to.
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HIM i think it was In, florida the last time
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THAT i spoke to, Him, Manager and was that on
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the phone or in. Person virginia on the. Phone. Manager,
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Hmm virginia on the, Phone manager on the. Phone where
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was he located if you know when you spoke to, Him,
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VIRGINIA i don't. Know. Manager do you have his phone? Number,
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VIRGINIA i have his card, somewhere probably not on me,
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anymore LIKE i told you my paper trail Indicating. Manager,
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Okay so in the fourth, line you, say, miraculously SINCE
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i came to light with the truth in speaking out
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against him in twenty, eleven THE fbi have reopened the, case,
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which as you, know has current proceedings in WHICH i
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am involved. In so what current were you involved in
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On february, nineteenth twenty, Fourteen, Virginia, well just speaking with THE,
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FBI i was under the assumption the case was being,
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reopened that they still were Investigating. Menager. Okay did you
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believe that THE fbi had reopened their case in twenty, Eleven.
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VIRGINIA i believe that's when they first started to reinvestigate
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and reopen, It. Menager and then sometime when you were In,
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Florida Jason richards told you that they were not actually
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going to continue investigating the. Case, VIRGINIA i BELIEVE i
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was In. Florida, Yes and he didn't say. That he
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just said his hands were tied and up. ABOVE i don't,
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Know channa. Command it just it didn't look like it
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was going. Anywhere there was no definite no and a definite.
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Yes it was just right, now there's really nothing that
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we can. Do, well that's. Funny who was the president
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during this period of? Time, oh that's, Right Barack? Obama
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just another administration that didn't give one single. Fuck, manager all.
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Right in the third paragraph from the, top you, said
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there's another major paper that has followed the story for a,
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while that has worked with me, before and they were
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asking you for the exclusive, story but updated and obviously
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the end outcome from the judicial. Decision who was the
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other major paper that had followed the story for a
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while and was asking you for an exclusive, Story, virginia
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that would that just coming to? Mind must be The Daily?
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Mail IF i, Said i've worked with them, before the only,
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other the only other what do you call them press
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THAT i have worked with was The Daily? Mail so, manager,
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Okay but you said you held out on them because
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Mary anne had told you about her contact With emily
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at The New York City. Post, Right, VIRGINIA i have
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held out because you told me about your contact With
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emily with The New York, post AND i appreciate you
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trying to make big headlines for the story and hopefully
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one day the. Book, Yes, manager. Okay and then the
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last line of that paragraph you, SAY i would also
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like to know That i'm going to profit from this as. Well, Correct, Virginia,
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Correct i'm not going to give it for, free, manager,
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right all? Right exhibit twenty marked Manager Defendant's exhibit Twenty.
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Manager do you recognize these? Documents this, document which is
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another can posite, Exhibit, virginia, Yes, manager do you recognize? It, Virginia,
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oh LIKE i, SAID i don't recognize, it but it
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obviously comes from. Manager your email Address, virginia, Yes, Manager
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now what email addresses that exactly on the first page
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of this, Exhibit virginia at iCloud dot. Com that must
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be from a, Phone, Manager so that's different from the
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other email. Addresses. Virginia, YEAH i don't actually know about
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the email. ADDRESS i obviously used it redacted. Redacted. Manager
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and this is the email signed by your, Husband, Virginia,
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no it's signed by, Me, manager. Okay and in the
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subject line you, Wrote Virginia Roberts Jane doe one oh.
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Two Correct, virginia subject line manager the very top of the. Page,
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Virginia oh, YEAH i see, manager, Okay and it was
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To Jason Dot richards two AT ic DOT fbi dot.
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Gov Correct, Virginia correct. Manager and is that The Jason
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richards that you were referring? To, Virginia, yes, manager all?
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Right and you had some emails With Jason richards over?
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Time is that? Fair, virginia, sure, manager these ones that
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came from your, computer, Right, virginia, sure, yes. Manager. Okay
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you talk about having spoke With Judge Paul cassell in
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the first. Page, Correct. Virginia i'm here to get THIS
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bs prosecution agreement thrown, out and speaking With Judge Paul,
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cassell he suggested trying to get a hold of any
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photos or video recordings released by THE fbi to assist
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our case further in providing how much pedophilia occurred By
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jeffrey and many other. Monsters he obliged with underage. Girls. Manager, Okay,
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virginia if this is a, possibility please let me know
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SO i can give. You Brad, edwards my, attorney his contact,
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details many thanks for your, time AND i hope we
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should meet. Again. Menager, Okay and so you were going
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back To jason and trying to get any evidence that
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THE fbi had about your, case, Right. Virginia, correct any
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photographs pertaining to what, myself not of anyone, Else, Menager, Right,
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virginia but anything they had of, Me. Menager And Brad,
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edwards who is sitting right, here was your attorney at the,
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time and you identified him as such in the. Email, Correct. Virginia, Correct,
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manager you did not identify Mister Judge cassell as your
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attorney in this, Email, Correct. VIRGINIA i knew him as
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a former judge AND i just wrote Down Judge Paul
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cassell as it, Looks but he was my, Attorne. ERNIE
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i know if he was my attorney at the, time but,
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yes he's always he's been working with me since the, beginning, So.
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Virginia so he's representing you in this case, now Correct, Virginia, Yes,
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manager but at the, time you don't know if he
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was your, Attorney, VIRGINIA i think he. WAS i, Mean
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i've been talking with him since the, beginning and this
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is dated twenty, fourteen SO i believe at the. Time
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he was my attorney at the time as. Well. Manager,
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okay so when do you first recall speaking with? Him,
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Virginia speaking With? Paul i'm not too. SURE i can't
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remember IF i spoke With paul on the phone In
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australia or IF i met him in person down In. Florida,
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Manager do you remember when you signed any kind of
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fear agreement with? Him Brad edwards objects to the, Form, Virginia,
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well the first TIME i would have signed an agreement
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would have been In, Florida, manager when you were living In, Titusville.
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Virginia as far as my knowledge reminds, ME i, Mean
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i'm not looking at emails THAT i can't. Remember it's
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a POSSIBILITY i could have signed, earlier but as far
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AS i, Remember, Manager, okay do you recall having email
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communications With Sharon churcher about her publishing the first serial
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of your? Books, Virginia, Ceial what does that? Mean i'm, Sorry,
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manager like a, Sequel, virginia a sequel to my? Book?
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Manager uh, Huh, virginia my book has never been, Published, manager,
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right do you remember ever emailing With sharon about her
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being the one who would publish any subsequent follow up, Books.
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Virginia if you have something in front of you to show,
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me AND i would look at. It LIKE i, said
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there's a million emails. HERE i, mean there's a whole
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dead tree with EMAILS i don't remember. Sending So, manager
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so you don't remember that email chain as you sit, Here. Virginia,
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yes all, Right we're gonna stop right, there and in
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the next episode we'll pick up where we left. Off
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all of the information that goes with this episode can
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be found in the description. Box what's, up, everyone and
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welcome back to The Epstein. Chronicles in this, episode we're
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gonna dive right back in to That Virginia roberts deposition
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and pick up where we left. Off, so without further,
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ado let's get to. It. Menager, okay you have signed
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contingency fee agreements With boys And. Schiller Correct. Virginia, Yes.
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Menager you've signed contingency fees with Mister, cassell Correct, virginia,
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Correct menager and Mister edwards and his Firm. Virginia, Correct,
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Menager Stan pottinger is that, Correct, Virginia, Correct. Menager and
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pursuingto those fee, agreements you understand that you could get
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a recovery of any money that you won in this, case, Correct,
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Virginia correct, Manager and what percent is, That. VIRGINIA i
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don't know off the top of my. HEAD i think
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it's forty. Percent i'm not too, sure to be, Honest,
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Menager do you remember having any conversations with redacted about
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money that you hope to obtain from this case or
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from any other source related to, This. VIRGINIA i remember
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talking to redacted as a, girlfriend telling her what CASES
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i was involved. WITH i don't believe we ever spoke
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about monetary. Settlements there was no number that was ever.
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MENTIONED i told her THAT i was involved in these,
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cases and you, know it was just girlfriend talk between.
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GIRLFRIENDS i never expected her to turn around and consort
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with the. Enemy, Menager, well it's fair to say you
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do hope to make money from bringing in this, lawsuit
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Correct Brad edwards objects the form and Then virginia. ANSWERS
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i hope to, win but that's not the only REASON
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i want to. WIN i want to see justice come, Through.
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Menager is money one of the reasons you want to? Win,
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edwards same, Objection. Virginia more than, MONEY i want to See,
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Glenne maxwell And jeffrey own up to what they have
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done and pay the. Price, yes, manager is money tight
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in your? Family, Virginia we've been doing. Well, Manager you've
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been doing Well. Virginia, Yes. Menager what is your source
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of income right? Now. Virginia my husband is the main
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source of. Income he's the bread winner And i'm a
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stay at home. Mom. Manager and what is his Job virginia? Redacted?
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Manager and how long has he had this? Job. Virginia
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he got the JOB i believe In december Or January
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december twenty fifteen Or january twenty. SIXTEEN i know he
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got the, job and then we had to go through
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all these preliminary tests and everything to make sure you.
19:43
Qualify so. Manager and what is the last paid employment
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that you, Had. Virginia the last paid employment THAT i
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had was? There was? That do you remember going back
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through the emails WHERE i had the resume AND i
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sent it out and they said what time do you
20:00
want to come in for an? INTERVIEW i ended up
20:02
getting that job there for two days because the place
20:05
was disgusting and the boss was just. HORRIBLE i didn't
20:08
get paid from, them BUT i got employed by. Them
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and other than, that the last TIME i worked was
20:14
it ended in two thousand and six FOR Et. Australia,
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menager did you quit that job after two days because
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the place was? Disgusting. Virginia it was. Vile, okay they
20:26
had the the whole place was closed. Down the restaurant
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was closed down for a period of like six. Months
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and he wanted me to go into this freezer area
20:34
that had a dead rat in it and this thick
20:37
indicating layer of mold at the, bottom and he wanted
20:40
me to clean. It, meninger all, Right, Virginia AND i
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was just, like, No, menager just checking did you quit
20:48
or did he fire? You. Virginia. NO i definitely walked
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out of that. One hands, Up. Meninger, Okay i'm going
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to do one more. DOCUMENT i have very Quickly exhibit
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twenty one marked. Manager i'll show you Defendants exhibit twenty,
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one another composite. Exhibit do you recognize the two and
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froms on this Email virginia To Sharon churcher from, Myself, Yes,
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manager and this is the Same Sharon churcher from the
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mail On sunday we were discussing, Earlier. Virginia that's, Correct.
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Menager and these are From february of twenty. Eleven Correct. Virginia, yes, Manager, Okay.
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VIRGINIA i mean it's just assuming that we're not looking
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At australian backward. Dates. Menager, Okay well a few pages
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back where it says two nineteen twenty, Eleven. Virginia, yeah,
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manager all, right IF i could direct your attention to
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one of the, pages it's thirty six seventy six in
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the lower right hand, Corner, virginia thirty six seventy, Six.
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Menager now these are in sequential, order they're not In
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baits stamp, orders so you might have to look at
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the dates on the top to find one That's february
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nineteenth of twenty, Eleven. Virginia do you know what page it?
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Is Brad? Edwards, Well, manager it's almost in the, Middle Brad.
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Edwards it's like she's, saying is that manager interrupts? Them
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if you look at the date at the, Top edwards interrupts.
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Her if you look at it it says to nineteen twenty,
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eleven that's not. It it's like half a. Page keep
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Going virginia to thirteen to seventeen to eighteen to nineteen twenty. Eleven.
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Manager if it says thirty six seventy six in the
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lower right hand. Corner, Virginia, yes? Okay is that an
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email that you sent To Sharon churcher in response to
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an email That Sharon churcher sent to? You virginia To
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Sharon churcher From jenna subject are? Received? YES i tried
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to call and the line was. Busy could you call
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concerning the question you? Asked? Manager all? Right and that
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was in response to an email just below you received
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From Sharon. Churcher, Virginia, yes, Manager and what Did Sharon
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churchill write you On february nineteenth of twenty? Eleven, virginia
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do you know a? Redacted Supposedly jaye purchased her at
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fourteen from her? Family? Manager, okay and then you asked
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her to call to discuss, that, Correct. VIRGINIA i tried to.
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Call the line was. Busy could you call concerning the
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question you? Asked, right says? Manager, Virginia, yes, manager all?
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Right Defendants exhibit twenty. Two, virginia thank you? Manager? Okay
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do you recognize these series of Emails virginia so? FAR
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i mean it's definitely from me to her or Actually
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Michael thomas as a photographer that worked with, her just
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to be, Clear, Manager and is she one of the
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two the recipients of the first page email? You and
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she received an email From Michael? Thomas is that, Right, virginia?
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Yes Manager. Okay edwards interjects, HERE i think she wants
24:02
you to look and make sure you recognize. Them. Manager.
24:06
Yeah do you recognize the document the, Emails, Virginia LIKE i,
24:09
said these are back in twenty, eleven but it's from
24:13
my email. ADDRESS i recognize THAT i Recognize sharon's, name
24:16
AND i Recognize Michael. Thomas. Manager do you have any
24:21
reason to doubt that the emails From march of twenty, Eleven,
24:24
VIRGINIA i don't have Any menager interrupts her from yourself
24:29
and Miss churcher are accurately reflected from the documents taken
24:32
from your computer, Here, VIRGINIA i have no reason to doubt, That, Menager,
24:37
Okay exhibit twenty three Marked Manager. Defendants exhibit twenty three,
24:42
again emails between your email address And Sharon churcher From
24:47
may of twenty. Eleven do you recognize your email, Address, virginia,
24:51
Yes manager And Sharon churcher's email Address, virginia, Yes, manager
24:57
and you're signing your emails to her much low LOVE
25:00
XO Xo, jenna and she's signing her emails to you
25:04
Love shaza, Correct virginia. Correct And shaza is the name
25:10
that you call Her. Virginia In, australia we kind of
25:14
shorten the names of people and put a z or
25:17
an a on the. End, so, yes, Manager so she
25:20
Became Shaza, Virginia, Yes. Shaza. Correct. Manager and do you
25:25
recall having email communications with her in which you referred
25:28
to her As shaza And. Virginia, yes, Manager she referred
25:33
to herself As Shaza. Virginia she's the same person we're talking. About, yes,
25:38
manager all, right she's coming from her email address As Sharon, churchier, Right. Virginia, yes,
25:45
manager all? Right AND i think the Last Brad edwards,
25:49
interjects here are you almost at a stopping? Point? Manager?
25:52
Almost Edwards, okay, OKAY i just have to make a quick,
25:56
call BUT i can wait a. While so manager. INTERRUPTS i,
26:00
understand almost, Done, edwards. Okay exhibit twenty. Four Mart. Manager
26:06
this is exhibit twenty four emails between yourself And Sharon
26:10
churcher From june of twenty, Eleven. Virginia uh, Huh manager
26:15
and Again shaza And Jenna, Shaza, Jenna Jenna Shaza, Right. Virginia, Yes,
26:22
Manager and at the bottom of the first page Is
26:25
Sharon churcher giving you advice regarding the purchase By Vanity
26:28
fair redacted and. Redacted virginia may have time to read, it, please, Manager, Please.
26:34
Virginia are we talking about the very bottom one or
26:37
the one in the kind of middle bottom, manager the
26:41
very bottom, One. VIRGINIA i would LET vf buy your
26:45
pictures Via. Brad the big gamble would be to let
26:48
him also give them a, Statement, Menager, Right. Virginia the
26:54
reason this is a gamble Is jeffrey knows some of
26:56
the powerful people in, publishing and once, altered will inevitably
27:01
try to scare off potential. Buyers but the upside is
27:04
it should help you get a good. AGENT i would
27:06
Have brad use the phrase sex, trafficked as that is
27:09
the heads up about the book revealing more then be. Printed.
27:13
Menager all, right so Is Sharon churcher writing to you
27:16
About actually it's cc To brad Correct, Virginia, Yes, menager
27:21
AND i only Use brad not his last, name because
27:25
It's Brad atpathtejustice dot. Com Correct, virginia, yes, menager all,
27:31
right and That's Brad edwards who is sitting, Here, Virginia, yes,
27:35
manager all. Right and so in the email From Sharon
27:38
churcher to you regarding whether or not you should Let
27:41
Vanity fair buy your, picture she's also recommending in the
27:44
last line that you should Have brad use the phrase sex. Trafficked,
27:48
Correct virginia if a statement is made, YES i don't
27:52
Think Vanity fair ever did. Anyway. Manager and the picture
27:57
that they're talking about there is the one with redacted, Correct,
28:01
virginia that's, yeah the big, One, manager the one that
28:06
was previously Sold, Virginia, yes, manager And Paulo silva was
28:11
syndicating that one, Correct. Virginia. Yeah. Manager and on that
28:15
second page there's a? Redaction who who is in that? Redaction,
28:19
VIRGINIA i have no idea. Manager you don't, Know. Virginia,
28:24
NO i don't know. Manager so who are the two
28:27
world's most respected politicians? Redacted and Who VIRGINIA i don't? Know.
28:33
Manager do you recall ever Telling Sharon churcher that you
28:36
were trafficked to two of the world's most respected politicians?
28:39
Redacted and somebody Else Brad edwards objects to, Form, virginia
28:45
is that her? Wording this is from, her so this
28:47
is her, Wording, manager, Right, virginia if she considered them
28:52
to be the world's most respected, politicians that would be her,
28:55
opinion not. Mine. Manager, Okay but you received this email
28:59
and responded to, it, Correct, virginia is the top one
29:03
above WHAT i responded. To, sorry it just confuses me
29:07
because it goes, upwards doesn't it not. Downwards we're not
29:11
reading chronologically, down are. We. Manager you can probably look
29:15
at the dates and figure it. OUT i need you
29:17
to do, that not, Me. Virginia. Okay the thirtieth of the,
29:21
fifth thirty first of the, fifth sixth of the, first,
29:24
Right SO i still don't know who she's talking about, There,
29:28
Manager you don't know if you receive this, Email. Virginia.
29:31
NO i received this email, obviously BUT i don't know
29:34
who's redacted. There, Manager. Okay and in the email that
29:38
you responded to you're talking about you used, redacted, Correct.
29:43
Virginia it does concern me that they would want to
29:46
write about, me considering that redacted walked INTO vf and
29:50
threatened them not to write sex trafficking articles about his
29:53
good Friend. Jaye, manager. Right does that refresh your memory
29:58
that when you got this email unredact redacted was included
30:01
as well as Redacted edwards objective. Form manager in the
30:06
line referred to as two of the world's most respected. Politicians,
30:10
virginia it could, be but, AGAIN i would be making
30:13
an assumption BECAUSE i don't know who that name. Is.
30:17
MANAGER i don't know, Either. Virginia, okay. Manager maybe your
30:22
lawyers can tell us, manager all, right last one and
30:25
then you can get your. Break exhibit twenty five Mart
30:30
Manager Defendants exhibit twenty five, again emails to and from
30:34
yourself And Sharon churcher, Correct, Virginia, yes, Manager and in
30:39
this email it's dated for, twelve twenty. Fifteen on the
30:42
first page of the composite Email, Virginia, Yes. Manager she
30:47
is encouraging you to write a, Book, virginia as she
30:51
has from the. Beginning, Yes, manager, right and she suggested A.
30:55
Roman do you know what that? Means, Virginia. No. Manager
31:00
on the third back, page she wrote you to compliment
31:03
you About David boys taking your. Case. Virginia looks through
31:07
the document just reading About David boys taking your. Case how, Fantastic,
31:13
jenna have you asked him how he'd feel about reviving your.
31:16
Book it would be an incredible shame if the other
31:18
project lifts your, story which it could at least. Somewhat
31:22
jared is still very keen to represent. You i'm AFRAID
31:24
i screwed you by steering you to me. ME i
31:27
just had a great weekend In la On Celebrity, story
31:30
got to go To Rodeo drive much Love. Shaza, Yes,
31:35
managers so she's encouraging you to Have David boys also
31:39
help you in the book writing. Department Right edwards again
31:43
objects to the form here and says it mischaracterizes the. Exhibit,
31:48
virginia is the question pending. Manager, Yes, virginia she, yeah
31:53
she encouraged me. TO i mean once she saw, that you,
31:56
know there was more litigation going, on she, thought like she,
31:59
says how. Fantastic and up until, recently she's still been
32:03
trying to get me to get the book. Out. Manager
32:06
and In may of twenty, fifteen do you did you
32:10
have any active agreements to publish your? Book? Virginia In
32:14
may of twenty, fifteen, No jared wanted to do something,
32:17
again but his only thing was he Wanted sharon to
32:21
be in on, it like as a, ghostwriter AND i, said,
32:24
Look sharon is all well and, good BUT i don't
32:26
want a, journalist you, know as they can twist things
32:29
around writing my. Story so he was, like, Well i'm,
32:32
SORRY i don't want to work with you, then AND i,
32:35
said well that's, fine no. Problem. Manager do, you as
32:39
you sit here, today have any agreement to publish your
32:42
story in written? Form. Virginia, no we have no. Agreement.
32:47
Manager do you have any agreement for anyone else to
32:49
write your? Story? Virginia, No, menager have you got any
32:54
ghostwriters in the? Book virginia Besides, sandra WHO i didn't. Like. No,
32:59
manager all, RIGHT i think now is a good time
33:01
for a. Break SO i think it's a good time
33:04
for us to break as. Well and in the next
33:06
episode we'll pick up where we left off and we'll
33:09
continue on with this. Deposition we're getting close to the
33:12
end here and probably another two or three episodes and
33:16
we'll have it all locked. In but until, then you
33:18
can find all of the information that goes with this
33:21
episode in the description. Box what's, up, everyone and welcome
33:25
back to The Epstein. Chronicles in this, episode we're gonna
33:29
dive right back into The Virginia roberts, deposition and we're
33:33
gonna just pick up right where we left. Off, manager
33:37
when you were emailing and speaking With Sharon churcher in
33:40
twenty eleven about The Vanity fair possibility of purchasing your, Photograph,
33:46
Virginia uh? Huh, Manager do you recall whether you shared
33:50
With Sharon churcher anything that you had discussed with your,
33:53
attorney Mister, Edwards virginia in relationship to what? Like HAVE
33:58
i identified? People tour? Manager, Right, Virginia, Yes, Manager, okay
34:04
so you you identified people to her and then you
34:07
loop back to her about your conversations with Mister. Edwards,
34:10
Correct Brad edwards objects to Form. Virginia i'm, sorry can you?
34:15
REPHRASE i don't? Understand manager all? Right so you were
34:19
emailing with, Her, Virginia uh, Huh, manager getting her advice
34:23
about whether or not to sell your redacted To Vanity. Fair, virginia. Right.
34:29
Manager she asked you to run some information By Brad. Virginia,
34:33
Yes Manager, edwards and you said that you were going
34:36
to do, That, Virginia uh. Huh, manager and then you
34:40
spoke to Mister, edwards, Correct. VIRGINIA i don't know IF
34:43
i spoke to, him or IF i emailed, Them, Manager,
34:46
Okay and then did you report back To Sharon churcher
34:49
what you had discussed with Mister Edwards, Virginia i'm not too.
34:53
Sure LIKE i, said going back to this twenty eleven,
34:56
EMAIL i, mean look at this pile, here it's impossible
34:59
for me to. Know. Manager so were you having a
35:02
lot of communications With Sharon churcher in twenty Eleven, Virginia, Yes.
35:07
Manager and did you ever Have Sharon churcher draft for
35:10
your email to send to Mister Edwards, Virginia, YES i.
35:14
BELIEVE i believe she. Did. Manager and why did she
35:18
draft emails for you to send to Mister Edwards, VIRGINIA
35:23
i believe there was and this is just going off
35:25
my Recollection. Manager uh, Huh, VIRGINIA i believe there was
35:29
a time when she Was oh, GOD i can't. REMEMBER
35:32
i really can't, remember and don't want to say anything
35:35
without looking at the exact. Email do you have it
35:38
to show, Me, Manager, Well i'm sure it's probably in,
35:41
there BUT i don't want to take the time to
35:43
look for it. Now. Virginia, Okay, Manager SO i understand
35:47
you're just repeating what you recall from your. Memory, virginia, Yes,
35:51
manager and it may not be accurate because you're not
35:54
looking at the. Document i've got that. Caveat what do
35:58
you recall just as you're sitting, There, VIRGINIA i know
36:02
there was an email That sharon sent to me suggesting
36:05
to say To Brad. EDWARDS i know THAT i don't
36:07
remember or recall exactly what was in those, Statements, manager,
36:12
Okay and did you send those emails to Mister edwards
36:15
as you recall, Today, VIRGINIA i don't. Know i'm, Sorry.
36:19
Manager and do you know if you went back To
36:22
Sharon churcher and told her about the conversations or emails
36:25
you had with Mister Edwards virginia some of? Them i'm, sure, Yes,
36:30
manager because you were in fairly regular contact With Sharon
36:34
churcher at the. Time, Correct, virginia right at the? Time,
36:37
manager all, RIGHT i want to introduce you to Defendants
36:40
exhibit twenty. Six. Manager have you seen this document, Before.
36:45
VIRGINIA i don't know If i've seen this specific document,
36:48
before But i've seen something close to, IT i, Think,
36:51
manager all. Right do you see the date on the?
36:53
Document Virginia march, tenth twenty. Eleven, Manager march, Ninth, VIRGINIA
36:59
i See march, Tenth Sorry, Manager Virginia London march, tenth twenty, Eleven.
37:06
Edwards both dates are, There. Menager i'm. Sharp i'm sure they.
37:09
Are i'm just not seeing the one that you're. Seeing. Virginia,
37:12
Oh i'm, Sorry. Menager that's, Okay, Virginia, yeah sorry about, That, manager, Okay.
37:18
Edwards one is right on the top of the, Other.
37:22
MENAGER i don't doubt. YOU i was just looking for. It, virginia, okay.
37:26
Manager all. Right so after the Word London march, tenth twenty,
37:30
eleven Correct virginia correct, manager and above that is the
37:35
title statement on behalf Of Glenn maxwell, Right, Virginia Yes,
37:40
manager By devonshire's solicitors Pr Any Correct virginia correct. Manager
37:47
and Then, Wednesday march, ninth twenty, eleven Correct virginia correct.
37:52
Manager and you understand That march ninth or, tenth twenty
37:55
eleven is roughly the time your original stories were published
37:59
in the. Press virginia Correct menager internationally Correct virginia correct.
38:05
Manager and this statement issued By Glenn maxwell or issued
38:09
By devonshire solicitors on her, behalf denied allegations about her
38:14
that have appeared recently in the. Media, Correct. Virginia, Correct,
38:18
manager it says these allegations are all entirely. False. Correct
38:22
DID i read that, Properly, Virginia Gallane maxwell denies the
38:26
various allegations about. Her, yeah right below that these allegations
38:30
are entirely. False, Manager all. Right in twenty, eleven were
38:35
you aware That Gallainne maxwell issued a statement denying the
38:38
allegations about her that had appeared in the, Media. Virginia
38:43
i'm not too sure WHAT i recall from twenty eleven
38:46
About Gallaine maxwell denying. IT i know that she'd denied
38:49
it recently in twenty, FIFTEEN i know that for a. Fact,
38:53
Manager so do you know whether she denied it in twenty, Eleven.
38:57
VIRGINIA i can't recall back to eleven IF i do remember, That,
39:02
Menager and you don't know whether she put out a
39:05
press statement that said these allegations are all entirely. False, Correct.
39:11
Virginia it doesn't surprise, Me BUT i don't remember reading.
39:14
THIS i know that you know there was a lot
39:16
of stories in press going, on and a lot of
39:19
THEM i DECIDED i just didn't want to. Read there
39:21
was a lot of stuff in there that JUST i
39:23
didn't want to go. Through. Menainger, okay were you harmed
39:26
On march tenth Or march, eleventh twenty eleven by the
39:30
issuance of a statement on behalf Of Glenn? Maxwell. VIRGINIA
39:33
i am harmed By Glenn maxwell denying anything has ever
39:37
happened between, us whether it's in two thousand and two
39:40
or twenty eleven or twenty. FIFTEEN i think that she
39:44
knows what she did and she should be held accountable for.
39:47
Them and not only has she hurt me, once but
39:49
she's hurt me apparently twice and now three. Times, Menager
39:54
so On march, eleventh twenty, eleven, say how were you
39:57
harmed by the issuance of this press? Statement. Virginia she's
40:01
denied that she had any involvement in the procuring of
40:04
me and other young. Girls. Menager uh, Huh, virginia and
40:08
she tries to make herself look like she had no
40:10
partake in. It, menager did you suffer any physical symptoms
40:15
On march, eleventh twenty, eleven after this statement was Issued
40:19
as a consequence of this statement being, Issued virginia not
40:24
being able to remember reading This in twenty. Eleven it's
40:27
hard to, say but it's the same thing That i'm
40:30
going through right. NOW i, mean she's denied it, again
40:33
and it's. Painful it's physically. PAINFUL i am taking medication
40:37
to help me deal with. This And menager interrupts. Her,
40:40
Okay i'm just limiting you right now To march of twenty, Eleven.
40:44
EDWARDS i would ask that she's able to finish your, answer,
40:47
though Please, Manager, well the answer is non, responsive So
40:51
edwards cuts in in your, opinion it's non, Responsive, MENAGER
40:55
i want you to understand that the question is related
40:58
to any physical symptoms you suffered In march of twenty
41:01
eleven as a consequence Of Defendants exhibit twenty six being Issued.
41:07
Virginia IF i would have seen this In march, tenth twenty,
41:11
eleven this would have been harmful to. Me. Menager, okay
41:15
do you, recall as you sit here today experiencing any
41:18
physical symptoms as a consequence of Defendants exhibit twenty six
41:22
being issued to the. Press and to This Brad edwards
41:27
objects and asked and answered and says it lacks Predicate.
41:31
Virginia i've been suffering From Glenn maxwell And Jeffrey epstein
41:35
since the summer of two. Thousand so hearing again in
41:38
twenty eleven that she's denied, it of, course is going
41:41
to hurt. Me DID i hear about this in twenty?
41:43
ELEVEN i can't tell, you, HONESTLY i. Have in twenty
41:47
fifteen is WHEN i know that she denied. It and
41:49
AGAIN i haven't stopped suffering from the repercussions that they
41:53
put me, Through. Menager And i'm asking you to separate
41:57
if you, can any symptoms that you experienced a new
42:00
In march of twenty, FIFTEEN i, mean excuse, Me march
42:03
of twenty, eleven as a consequence of this statement being,
42:06
issued WHICH i believe you said you don't recall seeing
42:09
at the. Time is that, Fair, Virginia but you're asking
42:13
me now about twenty, Fifteen. Menager, Nope march of twenty.
42:18
Eleven SORRY i misspoke, There. Virginia you're still on twenty. Eleven. Menager,
42:23
yes did you start taking any new medications In march
42:26
of twenty? Eleven let me ask you, That, Virginia i've
42:30
been taking medication to control my redacted since two thousand and. Two. Menager,
42:36
okay so did you take any new medications or any
42:39
additional amounts of medication In march of twenty, Eleven. VIRGINIA
42:44
i have been taking the same medication since two thousand and, two, Menager, Okay,
42:48
virginia and that's due to anxiety cause from the pain
42:52
THAT i suffered at the hands Of Glenn maxwell And Jeffrey. Epstein.
42:56
Manager did you do you recall any neighbors or their
43:00
moms at the school or anybody in twenty eleven referencing
43:04
to you in any way to the fact That Glenn
43:06
maxwell had issued a denial of the allegations about her
43:10
that had been published in the media In march of twenty, Eleven. Virginia,
43:15
NO i didn't speak to ANY i didn't speak to
43:17
any moms about WHAT i had gone. THROUGH i mean
43:20
when it came out in the, PRESS i don't think
43:22
Any Like australians don't pay attention to news number, one number.
43:26
Two the first time that my friends contacted, me they were.
43:29
Shocked and this WAS i believe when the press picked
43:33
it up. AGAIN i think it was twenty, fourteen twenty,
43:36
fifteen AND i got a whole bunch of Like facebook
43:39
text from them, saying oh my, GOD i can't believe
43:42
that you've been through. THIS i never. Knew i'm so,
43:45
sorry you know that kind of, Stuff so they NEVER
43:48
i never spoke to anybody about this except for my Husband.
43:51
Manager All, Right so the first time you recall any
43:54
sort of people in your community referencing things to you
43:58
is When press picked it up intowenty fourteen and twenty. Fifteen. Virginia,
44:03
YEAH i think it may be the end of twenty,
44:05
fourteen early twenty. Fifteen. Menager, alright and so In march
44:10
of twenty, eleven you don't recall any neighbors or anybody
44:14
saying anything to you about, This. Virginia, NO i don't, Recall.
44:18
Menager did anyone tell you In march of twenty eleven
44:22
about Defendants exhibit twenty, six the statement on behalf Of Glenn, Maxwell, Virginia,
44:27
no OTHERWISE i would have been able to recall. It. Menager,
44:31
okay do you remember anyone in twenty eleven ridiculing you
44:35
because of Defendants exhibit twenty, Six. Virginia, well because nobody
44:39
knew me As. Virginia everybody knows me As. Jenna. No
44:42
one probably put two and two. Together and LIKE i told,
44:45
YOU i didn't tell, Anybody so there was nobody there
44:48
to ridicule me in twenty eleven over, This, Menager where
44:53
were you living in twenty eleven When shaza came to see, You, Virginia, oh? Redacted.
44:59
Menager do you recall applying for any job in or
45:02
around twenty eleven and someone referencing Defendants exhibit twenty six
45:06
and denying you a? Job. VIRGINIA i don't think THAT
45:09
i applied for a job in twenty. Eleven. Manager, okay
45:13
did you go see a doctor about Defendants exhibit twenty? Six,
45:17
Virginia not about, this not about this paper right. Here
45:20
BUT i have talked to doctors about abuse at the
45:22
hands Of glean And. Jeffrey. Manager have you talked to
45:26
a doctor about any statements in the press made By
45:29
Glene Maxwell virginia recent? Statements? Yes. Manager which doctor did
45:34
you speak to about? That. Virginia her name Is Judith. Leifoot.
45:38
Manager and where is, She. Virginia she's In. Australia. Manager
45:42
where In, Australia. Virginia she's In, sydney but we do
45:46
have phone. Conversations. Manager have you met her in? Person? Virginia? Yes.
45:51
Manager When virginia in twenty, Eleven, manager all. Right and
45:56
is she affiliated with an office or a hospital or. What,
46:00
virginia she's a. Psychiatrist, menager, alright have you seen her
46:04
in person since twenty? Eleven, Virginia, no Because i've lived
46:08
so far, away and she's kind of the only person that.
46:11
Like i've seen a lot of, doctors AND i can
46:14
honestly tell you it's really hard for them to break
46:16
down the walls and be comfortable enough to talk to
46:19
them about this. Stuff judith is. Different she's somebody THAT
46:22
i FEEL i can. Trust she's seventy, six and she's
46:26
just a very lovely, lady and she offers me other
46:29
ways to deal with my pain and. Suffering AND i
46:31
continue to see her over the phone BECAUSE i can't
46:33
see her in. Person, manager do you recall ever discussing
46:37
with her Defendants exhibit twenty, Six. VIRGINIA i can't recall
46:42
ever seeing this, Exhibit So, manager, Okay exhibit twenty seven, Marked,
46:48
Manager i'm going to give you Defendants exhibit twenty. Seven. Virginia, Yes,
46:53
manager all, right have you seen this document? Before? Virginia? Yes,
46:57
Manager and what do you understand it to, Be virginia.
47:01
Redacted sounds like a pr If i'm not. Right If
47:04
i'm not, wrong sent or subject Is Glenn, MAXWELL i
47:08
don't know, redacted redacted and. Redacted it, says to whom
47:12
it may, concern please find attached credible statement on behalf
47:16
of Miss, maxwell and then it goes on to hear
47:19
about the she is. Saying each time the story is,
47:22
retold it changes with new sallacious details about public figures
47:26
and world, leaders and now is alleged by Miss roberts
47:30
that redacted is involved in having sexual relations with, her
47:33
which he. Denies miss roberts claims are obvious lies and
47:37
should be treated as such and not publicized as news
47:41
as their Defamatory Glenn maxwell's original response to the lies
47:45
and defamatory claims remains the. Same maxwell strongly, denies excuse,
47:51
me excuse, me strongly denies allegations of an unsavory nature
47:55
which have appeared in The british press and, elsewhere and
47:58
reserves her right to seek redress at the repetition of
48:01
such old defamatory. Claims, manager all, right have you seen
48:06
this statement, Before. Virginia i've seen it, recently, Yes manager all,
48:12
right and what have you discussed this statement With Miss?
48:15
LIGHTFOOT i don't know if she's a doctor or. What
48:17
virginia a? Psychiatrist, yeah? Manager is she AN? Md, VIRGINIA
48:23
i don't know what her levels of credential. Are i'm
48:25
sure she is. Manager, okay when's the first time you
48:29
saw the, Statement, Virginia this full STATEMENT i have only
48:32
seen through. Discovery the original statement THAT i saw in
48:36
the press was Miss roberts claims or obvious, lies and
48:39
so on so. FORTH i don't remember seeing this in the. Press,
48:42
Okay so the part you remember seeing in the press
48:46
is Miss roberts claims or obvious? Lies, menager Ass, virginia, yes.
48:50
Manager anything else about, This, VIRGINIA i can't remember what
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else she printed in the. Press it's a very horrible
48:58
thing for her to, do turn and call me a
49:00
liar after everything that she knows she's, done AND i
49:04
didn't expect her to come out and be. Truthful Jeffrey
49:07
epstein hasn't even issued a, Statement, Menager sorry if you
49:11
misunderstood my, Question, virginia, yes. Manager was there anything else
49:15
within this statement that you recall seeing in the press
49:18
besides the line Miss roberts claims or obvious? Lies virginia
49:23
without saying one hundred. PERCENT i think that the original
49:27
allegations are not new and have been fully responded to
49:30
to be shown to be. UNTRUE i don't know if
49:33
that's in the press or, not But i've read this,
49:35
before SO i don't know If i'm confusing this with
49:38
What i've read out of this or What i've read
49:40
in the. Press the main thing, IS i know she
49:43
called me a, liar and that's what was. Publicized. Manager
49:47
and when you say she called you a, liar that's
49:50
the Miss roberts claims are obvious lives Parts, virginia, Yes.
49:54
Manager and when was the first time you saw this whole, Document.
49:58
VIRGINIA i guess when you guys handed it over for. Discovery, manager.
50:03
Okay and who showed it to, You. Virginia it was
50:05
sent to me via email, manager, okay just through the
50:09
course of communicating with your, Attorneys. Virginia. Yes. Manager and
50:13
you've never seen it, Published, virginia not this whole? Email, No,
50:18
manager all? Right did, You i'm, sorry did you discuss
50:21
this publication of what you saw in the press With
50:25
Judith Lightfoot, virginia, yes, manager all? Right and when did
50:29
you discuss it with? Her? Virginia WHEN i got back To,
50:32
Australia judith AND i started seeing each other. Again before,
50:36
THEN i spoke with a doctor In colorado about. This
50:38
his name is Doctor, olson and it was causing me
50:41
a lot of distress to have to deal with being
50:43
called a liar all over. Again AND i Know i'm
50:46
standing up doing the right, thing and the doctor prescribed
50:49
me Redacted and, Yeah, Manager, Okay so my question was
50:53
when did you discuss it With Judith. LIGHTFOOT i THINK
50:57
i now understand you did that after you Returned australia
51:00
In november or so of twenty. Fifteen is that, Right.
51:05
VIRGINIA i returned To australia In october and that's WHEN
51:08
i picked up talking to her. Again, manager all, right
51:12
and you're saying that at another point in time you
51:15
talk to another, doctor Doctor, olson In. Colorado, Correct. Virginia? Correct?
51:20
Manager and when did you meet with Doctor, Olson, VIRGINIA
51:23
i don't know the first date THAT i met with. Him.
51:26
Manager did you meet with them more than? Once? VIRGINIA
51:29
i believe, So, Manager and you believe you spoke with
51:32
him About Glenn maxwell published statement in the press that
51:35
Miss roberts claims or obvious. Lies that's what you believe
51:39
you spoke with Doctor olson About. VIRGINIA i spoke with
51:42
Doctor olson about being called a liar from people that abuse. Me, Manager,
51:48
okay do you recall specifically mentioning to Him Glen maxwell's
51:52
statement to the Press. VIRGINIA i mentioned a lot of
51:55
names to. Him, Manager, okay what new symptoms did you
51:59
experience Following january, second twenty, Fifteen. VIRGINIA i think it's
52:05
one thing to be a victim of sexual abuse and
52:07
survive it and come out trying to tell the whole
52:09
world my, story and then another thing for it to
52:12
be shut down because these, People Miss maxwell and others
52:15
are calling me. Liars, manager AND i ask you what
52:19
symptoms had you? Experienced, Edwards she's going to finish your
52:23
answer to this. Question you cut her off so many. Times,
52:26
manager it has nothing to do with, This. Edwards it absolutely,
52:30
does because this is a psychological damages, claim and she
52:34
is trying to explain to you what those damages. Are, Menager,
52:38
okay what are your symptoms that you experienced Since january,
52:42
second twenty fifteen that are New? Virginia very strong anxiety,
52:48
attacks bad panic. Attacks my throat closes. UP i can't,
52:51
BREATHE i vomit WHEN i have anxiety. Attacks my this is,
52:55
personal but my sex life is, suffered my marriage is. Suffered.
52:58
Psychologically it just hurts me all over. AGAIN i, mean
53:02
they've hurt me, before and now they've hurt me again
53:04
by doing. This AND i felt LIKE i was in
53:07
the process of healing before this came, out BECAUSE i
53:10
had opened up this wonderful charity Called Victims Refuse, silence
53:15
and then my aim was to heal by helping other
53:17
girls get out of the situations THAT i was in,
53:19
before and my lawyers were nice enough to help. ME
53:23
i have this beautiful website where you can click on
53:26
in any state and you can find a. PLACE i
53:29
have personally called all of, them and they will help
53:31
you get out of the situation that you're. In they
53:34
will get you medical, help they will get you legal.
53:36
ADVICE i THINK i was in the really good process of,
53:40
healing and when this came, out it just ruined me
53:42
all over. Again, manager all, right tell me all of
53:46
the damages that you claim occurred to you because of
53:49
Defendants exhibit twenty Seven, virginia my, reputation my psychological, abuse physical,
53:56
ailments my marriage has. Suffered my family life is. Suffered
54:00
i'm constantly battling. DEPRESSION i feel Like i've taken ten
54:03
steps forward and twelve steps back since this all. Happened, Manager,
54:08
okay and by since this has all, happened do you
54:11
mean Since january, second twenty, Fifteen. Virginia that's, Correct, manager all?
54:17
Right have you lost any income Since january, second twenty
54:20
fifteen as a consequence of? Defendants exhibit twenty, Seven, Virginia,
54:25
WELL i believe that my charity that was going to
54:28
go forward and help other victims was going to not
54:30
only bring in, income but also be able to provide
54:32
women with shelters and food and assistance THAT i wanted
54:36
to help. WITH i haven't been able to get a
54:38
job or work or anything like. That you. Know, financially
54:41
my husband brings home the money for, me but as myself,
54:45
GOES i couldn't work right now with everything going. On,
54:48
Manager how much income were you making prior To december,
54:52
thirtieth twenty, Fourteen, Virginia, Well i've been a stay at
54:55
home mom since two thousand and. Six, Manager so how
54:59
much income have you lost as a result of? Defendants
55:02
exhibit twenty Seven VIRGINIA i could, imagine you, know being
55:06
the head of a. Corporation at, CHARITY i would be
55:08
earning a decent. Wage it's hard to say how MUCH
55:11
i would be earning because it's a. Nonprofit but because
55:14
of these statements telling everybody in the world That i'm a,
55:16
liar my charity has not been able to take, off
55:19
and as a consequence of, THAT i have missed out
55:22
on the results of not being able to go forward with. It, Manager,
55:26
okay have you applied for a job that you've been
55:29
denied Since january, second twenty, Fifteen. VIRGINIA i haven't been
55:34
denied a. JOB i. Haven't i've just thought about applying for.
55:38
Jobs BUT i, mean the second that you google my,
55:41
name people are going to know exactly WHO i. Am
55:43
and these, days employers google, everything and it makes me
55:46
fearful that IF i do apply for a, job WHICH
55:49
i would like. TO i, mean my kids are all
55:52
at school. Now i'd like to get back into the,
55:54
workforce But i'm afraid IF i, do my past is
55:57
going to stop me from being able to do. That
55:59
one wants to hire a sex. Slave all, right, Folks
56:02
we're gonna wrap up with this episode here and in
56:04
the next, episode we'll pick up where we left off
56:07
and bring this bad boy over the finish. Line all
56:11
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