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9-16: Gregg is back! Mariners falter, Drew Lock at the helm and Jori Epstein · The Gregg Bell Show

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  Speaker 1: Now, from the Star Reynolds Sports Desk, your 93.3 KJR
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  Speaker 1: FM Sports Headlines.
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  Speaker 2: Aloha. Mahalo. Headlines are brought to you by Frostbrew Coors Light.
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  Speaker 2: As cold as the Rockies. The Seahawks, I'm out here
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  Speaker 2: at Seahawks headquarters, the Virginia Mason Athletic Center. Drew Locke's
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  Speaker 2: leading the offense through practices that will resume today. Drew Locke,
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  Speaker 2: not Sam Darnold, going to start Sunday at Arizona. We'll
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  Speaker 2: talk more about what we know about Sam Darnold and
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  Speaker 2: what the players are saying about Drew Locke. taken over
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  Speaker 2: at least for the time being. The Mariners, how about
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  Speaker 2: that easy part of the schedule, huh?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, boy, that is not looking easy. That is not
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  Speaker 3: looking easy.
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  Speaker 2: It hasn't been obvious for weeks. The Mariners have just quit.
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  Speaker 2: Last night they assured they'd have their first losing season
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  Speaker 2: in seven years. Back to the start of Jerry DiPoto's
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  Speaker 2: stated step back to rebuild to a World Series that
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  Speaker 2: still hasn't happened. The M's have quit. Still have ten
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  Speaker 2: games left in the season. Another failure of leadership with
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  Speaker 2: baseball operations there. They have a whole franchise quit. On
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  Speaker 2: a season 2-1 loss at the Subterranean Angels last night.
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  Speaker 2: Logan Gilbert, two runs in six innings and still lost.
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  Speaker 2: Mariners batter struck out nine times and scored just one
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  Speaker 2: run against a team that's been done for 29 games
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  Speaker 2: over 500, the Angels are. Three straight losses for the M's.
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  Speaker 2: Four of the first five on this road trip against
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  Speaker 2: the A's and the Angels. Mariners have lost. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I feel bad.
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  Speaker 2: Laugh or cry.
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  Speaker 3: I think that Logan actually says it really well when
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  Speaker 3: we hear from him.
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  Speaker 2: You'll hear from Logan Gilbert here later in the show.
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  Speaker 2: The Milwaukee Brewers with a lower payroll than the Mariners
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  Speaker 2: again by $ 21 million. They won the National League Central,
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  Speaker 2: clinched a division title last night. NBA Commissioner Adam Silver, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: here we go, said the league sent people to assess
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  Speaker 2: Climate Pledge Arena and found that they could have it
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  Speaker 2: ready to play an NBA game within five weeks if
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  Speaker 2: they needed to. It's the opposite situation going on in
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  Speaker 2: Las Vegas. They don't have an NBA-ready arena. They don't
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  Speaker 2: have concrete owners. The league's ready to award an expansion franchise, too.
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  Speaker 2: So now the efforts are going to be on settling
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  Speaker 2: Las Vegas' situation. Seattle seems set. All that still means
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  Speaker 2: we don't know when the league's going to announce the
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  Speaker 2: Sonics are coming back. Silver says now at the end
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  Speaker 2: of the year for an announcement. Okay, sure. Enough of
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  Speaker 2: it already. Let's go. Sounders already losing. Left and right,
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  Speaker 2: and now they've lost Paul Rothrock for eight to ten weeks.
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  Speaker 2: That's pretty much the rest of their season.
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  Speaker 3: That stinks.
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  Speaker 2: 2-0 Washington Huskies, barely 2-0. Host Eastern Washington Saturday at
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  Speaker 2: 4.15 right here on KJR. The Washington State Cougars are
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  Speaker 2: hosting Duquesne at the same day Saturday.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we need a get-right game, Greg. We need a
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  Speaker 3: get-right game.
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  Speaker 2: That better be it, or there's going to be a
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  Speaker 2: lot wrong.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and Athletic Director John Harlow will join Ian Pernice today,
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  Speaker 3: so we'll hear about what they're expecting. For this three-game homestand.
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  Speaker 2: First home game for the Cougs on Saturday. ESPN's Joe
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  Speaker 2: Buck this morning has agreed to a new contract worth
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  Speaker 2: more than $ 100 million to keep him in the voice
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  Speaker 2: of Monday Night Football into the next decade. The NFL,
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  Speaker 2: the NBA, Major League Baseball, NHL, and MLS issued a
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  Speaker 2: joint statement uniting in an effort to crack down on
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  Speaker 2: betting-related harassment of players, coaches, and their families. I wonder
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  Speaker 2: why that's happening. Because all the leagues are in bed
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  Speaker 2: with the betting and Poly markets and DraftKings. Oh, now
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  Speaker 2: they don't want to get out to the players. WNBA
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  Speaker 2: criticized the NBA for not including them in the NBA statement.
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  Speaker 2: And then Adam Silver said, well, the WNBA needs to
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  Speaker 2: have less divisive leadership. So it goes in pro basketball.
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  Speaker 2: Now on with the Wednesday show. Greg Bell reunited with
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  Speaker 2: Jessamyn McIntyre here on 93.3 KJRFM. I'm at Seahawks headquarters.
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  Speaker 2: Jessamyn's back at Elliott Bay.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I'm sitting in my darkness retreat all alone. Please
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  Speaker 3: send in your talkbacks. I need voices here.
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  Speaker 2: The talkbacks go to the iHeartRadio app. Download 933KJR or
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  Speaker 2: our website, 933KJR. com. Greg Bell's show with Jessamyn. There is
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  Speaker 2: a red talkback button, a microphone button. You go there,
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  Speaker 2: hit a button for 30 seconds or less, shorter. We'll
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  Speaker 2: do a Talkbacks, we'll play back your voice messages at 1130.
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  Speaker 2: We'll also do the Tacoma Dodge text line 49451. We'll
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  Speaker 2: do those back at 1130. Then we'll have Factor Fiction.
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  Speaker 3: I'm a part of this show. And even though I
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  Speaker 3: had the best time with the captain and Action Jackson,
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  Speaker 2: Appreciate that. How did we do last? I know Army
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  Speaker 2: just at the last play of the game lost. And
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  Speaker 2: they were on the under and then they lost the
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  Speaker 2: game outright. And then Ohio State, we got that one
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  Speaker 2: right anyway.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I hedged on one of mine last week because
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  Speaker 3: I went against the Jets, but they won, so it
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  Speaker 3: was a win-win for me. But yes, you were fiction,
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  Speaker 3: I was fiction, and then you were fact, I was fact,
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  Speaker 2: Oh, three and two.
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  Speaker 3: We're three and two. We're three and two. And actually,
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  Speaker 3: we are among the top. I don't know how they
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  Speaker 3: do their percentages and everything, but we are... tied with
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  Speaker 3: the morning show right now at three and two.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. So low bar and we're at least at it. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: And you have a pick today.
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  Speaker 2: I do. At 1135, we'll do that.
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  Speaker 3: I'm so curious as to what it'll be.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I like that.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. We'll leave it at that. We're going to also
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  Speaker 2: talk to you in here. As Jessamyn alluded to Logan Gilbert,
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  Speaker 2: speaking to the Mariners failures in this most disappointing, frustrating season,
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  Speaker 2: franchise history. The Sam Donald injury situation, what I know,
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  Speaker 2: what I've learned, how the Seahawks players view it. Heading
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  Speaker 2: into the game on Sunday at Arizona, Drew Locke starting
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  Speaker 2: his first game for Seattle since 2023. At 11 o'clock,
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  Speaker 2: our first talk of the season with Jory Epstein. She's
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  Speaker 2: the NFL senior writer for Yahoo Sports. She broke the
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  Speaker 2: story last month that this is Seahawks linebacker DeMarcus Lawrence's
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  Speaker 2: final season. She was at the Seahawks Patriots NFL opener
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  Speaker 2: last week, and she was in Kansas City Monday for
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  Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker's Sterling debut for the Chiefs in their win
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  Speaker 2: over Denver. What do we all think of that?
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  Speaker 3: My goodness, it scared me. It had me shaking in
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  Speaker 3: my boots because I was up by 40 points in
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  Speaker 3: my fantasy league, and my opponent, sales guy Will over here,
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  Speaker 3: I call him Good Will Hunting because he's got the hair,
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  Speaker 3: and that's all he had left to play. I had
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  Speaker 3: a 99% chance of winning, and then I looked, and
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, uh-oh.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, no. Oh, no.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, bartender, give me another drink, please.
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  Speaker 4: I was.
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  Speaker 2: I'm reading people are freaking out. Did the Seahawks make
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  Speaker 2: a mistake with letting Kenneth Walker go? We knew this
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  Speaker 2: was going to happen in Kansas City, right? Andy Reid
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  Speaker 2: throws to his running backs. He gives the running backs
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  Speaker 2: the ball. 68% of the snaps. Kansas City had 67
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  Speaker 2: plays Monday night. 29 of them, almost, I mean, 40-some
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  Speaker 2: percent of them were to Kenneth Walker. He had 23
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  Speaker 2: carries for the 173 yards. And he had six pass targets,
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  Speaker 2: got three of them. I want to talk to Jory,
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  Speaker 2: who was in Arrowhead Stadium on Monday night, and Jory's
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  Speaker 2: going to answer whether, can Andy Reid continue to use
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  Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker at that clip for the entire season? We
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  Speaker 2: know his history in Seattle and his injuries.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was going to say, during the Super Bowl,
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  Speaker 3: my dad, football coach dad, Coach Mack, was like, they
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  Speaker 3: cannot do this. They can do it for this one game,
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  Speaker 3: but there is no way they can use him this way.
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  Speaker 3: It was after Zach Charbonnet got hurt, so that was
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  Speaker 3: their only... you know, reason to use him as strongly
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  Speaker 3: as they did. However, he succeeded, but that is not sustainable,
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  Speaker 3: is what Coach Mack told me. And I said, I agree,
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  Speaker 3: but he just won the MVP of the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 3: So I can't see him sustaining that level of hits,
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  Speaker 3: you know, even hits throughout an entire season. So it
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  Speaker 3: will be interesting.
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk to Jory about that. She was in the
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  Speaker 2: Chiefs locker room after the game Monday night. 11.30, we'll
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  Speaker 2: read back your texts, like I said, and your talkbacks
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  Speaker 2: with the Tacoma Dodge text line at 11.30, 494-51, 11.35,
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  Speaker 2: Factor Fiction. And Ian Furness will join me. He's here
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  Speaker 2: at the Virginia Mason Athletic Center to talk about what's
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  Speaker 2: on his show today. First question for the text line, 494-51,
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  Speaker 2: are you in sky is falling mode about Sam Darnold's injury?
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  Speaker 2: I know there's been conflicting reports. He might go up
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  Speaker 2: to six weeks, as Mike Florio said on Sunday Night Football.
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  Speaker 2: That's what prompted the Seahawks to make an unusual move
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  Speaker 2: of a spokesman coming out and talking. I've been covering
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  Speaker 2: his team for 20-some years, and that might be the
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  Speaker 2: third or fourth time Dave Pearson has read a statement
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  Speaker 2: on behalf of the entire team with an issue. It
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  Speaker 2: usually has the coach speak for himself, but in this case,
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  Speaker 2: they just said, here's the deal. It's not a long-term injury.
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  Speaker 2: It's not related to his hip. It's a very unique
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  Speaker 2: soft tissue injury. It's around the hip area, and then
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  Speaker 2: it's later been determined it's the gluteal, his rear end,
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  Speaker 2: his butt hurts.
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  Speaker 3: Dude, the term butt hurt has been thrown around a
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  Speaker 3: little too much the past couple days. I love Sam Donald,
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  Speaker 3: and he's not butt hurt. What I did like hearing, though,
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  Speaker 3: was soft tissue rather than ligaments, rather than bone, rather
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  Speaker 3: than a fracture. Exactly. and I think they're protecting him,
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  Speaker 3: and Drew showed up and showed out too. So it's
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  Speaker 3: not like a huge concern.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly, and we'll talk about all of that. We'll talk
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  Speaker 2: about what they haven't done since Darnold got hurt to
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  Speaker 2: suggest this isn't going to be a long-term injury, and
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  Speaker 2: you'll hear from Byron Murphy and what the players are
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  Speaker 2: thinking about Drew Locke taking over. It is interesting that
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  Speaker 2: here's a Super Bowl champion team who's got all these
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  Speaker 2: cards in order. They've got a number one ranked defense.
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  Speaker 2: They've got Sam Darnold who's so much more comfortable than
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  Speaker 2: he was this time last year and working on the
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  Speaker 2: offseason with Rashid Shaheed and a Super Bowl champion and
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  Speaker 2: a pitch man and finally first time he's had back-to-back
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  Speaker 2: years as a number one starter unquestioned, undisputed starter on
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  Speaker 2: the same team since his first two years in the
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  Speaker 2: league with the Jets and then in Four plays into
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  Speaker 2: the season, five plays into the season, he's out. That
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  Speaker 2: is a challenge for Sam Darnold. It's obviously a challenge
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  Speaker 2: for Brian Fleury, the new offensive coordinator. But Drew Locke, look,
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  Speaker 2: this is the Trevoin Boykin experience. Oh, boy. Coming back
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  Speaker 2: to roost. Remember him? Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that was a throwback, Greg, but yes.
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  Speaker 2: It's about 10 years ago now. What? Nine, 10 years ago.
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  Speaker 2: Remember when they signed Trevoin Boykin as an undrafted rookie
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  Speaker 2: from TCU and Russell Wilson had never missed a meaningful snap.
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  Speaker 2: He just never missed a game. He never missed snaps.
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  Speaker 2: He never missed drives. He never got hurt. So they didn't–
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  Speaker 2: why do we need a dependable veteran backup? We'll just
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  Speaker 2: do this project. This undrafted rookie will be our number two,
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  Speaker 2: Trevon Boykin. And sure enough, Ndamukongsu lands on Russell Wilson's
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  Speaker 2: ankle in the first game. He miraculously– Wilson plays through that.
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  Speaker 2: And then in the San Francisco game, his knee on
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  Speaker 2: top of his ankle– And by all rights, he shouldn't
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  Speaker 2: have been playing for a month. Anyway, the number two
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  Speaker 2: quarterback for the first time had to play in the
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  Speaker 2: middle of a game in the Russell Wilson era. And
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  Speaker 2: Pete Carroll turned and looked on his bench and it
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  Speaker 2: was Trevoin Boykin. And that was a disaster. And that
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  Speaker 2: was part of the reason that Russell Wilson had physical
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  Speaker 2: therapists sleeping at his house and waking up every hour
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  Speaker 2: on the hour to get physical PT treatment. and get
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  Speaker 2: his knee and ankle in shape to play the very
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  Speaker 2: next time they run out on the field was because
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  Speaker 2: of Trevoin Boykin and how it scared the hell out
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  Speaker 2: of John Schneider. And since that time, John Schneider has
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  Speaker 2: ensured that he has had a backup quarterback who has
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  Speaker 2: starting experience in the NFL. Remember, he traded with the
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  Speaker 2: then Cardinals to get Brett Hundley, the former part-time, one-time
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  Speaker 2: starter for the Green Bay Packers. It was right after
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  Speaker 2: that season that he traded for Brett Hundley. Then he
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  Speaker 2: got Geno Smith. When nobody else wanted Geno Smith, He
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  Speaker 2: signed him from the Chargers to be Wilson's backup. They
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  Speaker 2: trade Wilson at Denver. Geno Smith gets a job. And
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  Speaker 2: who was part of that trade with Denver? John Schneider
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  Speaker 2: insisted that Drew Locke was part of the Russell Wilson trade. Remember,
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  Speaker 2: they got all the bevy of first and second round
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  Speaker 2: draft picks, four of them. But they also got three veterans.
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  Speaker 2: And one of those veterans was Drew Locke, who had
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  Speaker 2: started his first couple years in Denver. He started as
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  Speaker 2: a rookie and led the NFL in interceptions with 15.
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  Speaker 2: He started again his second year, and then by his
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  Speaker 2: third year, he lost his first three games and he
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  Speaker 2: lost his job. But the point is he had done it.
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  Speaker 2: And Snyder had learned his lesson in a Trevoin Boykin
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  Speaker 2: situation of we ain't getting in this situation. If our
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  Speaker 2: starting quarterback goes down, I want a guy who's done this,
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  Speaker 2: who's gone through game weeks, who's read defenses, who's been
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  Speaker 2: around the league, and now he does. And he spent
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  Speaker 2: a two-year contract on Locke, and we all said, wow,
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  Speaker 2: two years. That was to be able to keep him
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  Speaker 2: so that Locke wouldn't wander away and try to find
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  Speaker 2: a starting job after that.
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  Speaker 3: I think that surprised some people, Greg. Did it surprise you?
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  Speaker 2: It did. It did. And I remember thinking at the time,
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  Speaker 2: that's unusual for a veteran backup to get a two-year deal.
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  Speaker 2: And it's $ 4 million. He's getting paid handsomely to pay backup.
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  Speaker 2: This is why. It did surprise me, but it was
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  Speaker 2: to keep him here from leaving to try to find
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  Speaker 2: another starting job at the end of last year. And
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  Speaker 2: now here they are with Drew Locke. The last two
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  Speaker 2: meaningful games that Drew Locke has played for the Seahawks,
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  Speaker 2: he's won them both. Every Monday night game in December
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  Speaker 2: of 23, he came in. He had to start because
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  Speaker 2: Geno Smith was injured. The defending Super Bowl champion Eagles
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  Speaker 2: come into Seattle. Drew Locke beat him with a two-minute
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  Speaker 2: drive at the end of the game. Then in 24,
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  Speaker 2: his contract ended, and he went to the Giants. He
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  Speaker 2: was supposed to be a backup to Daniel Jones. Daniel
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  Speaker 2: Jones gets hurt. Drew Locke starts four or five games
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  Speaker 2: at the end of that season. Doesn't go well. The
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  Speaker 2: Giants let his contract lapse. That's when John Schneider picked
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  Speaker 2: him up again for a second Seattle go-around on a
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  Speaker 2: two-year deal, and that's the contract he's under now starting
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  Speaker 2: on Sunday at Arizona. Then you saw, of course, we
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  Speaker 2: saw what he did coming in after the fifth play
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  Speaker 2: against the Patriots last week. So, yeah, the Seahawks have
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  Speaker 2: planned for this, and you don't think about what they're
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  Speaker 2: doing with a backup quarterback until you need one, and
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  Speaker 2: they've got one that they can trust. in Drew Locke,
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  Speaker 2: and they're a lot better off than they were with
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  Speaker 2: Trevoin Boykin, we can say that for sure.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it is interesting, and I love the historical
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  Speaker 3: context that you put it in, because I wouldn't have
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  Speaker 3: thought about it that way, and I don't think a
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  Speaker 3: lot of fans do either, but knowing that that was
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  Speaker 3: your backup situation, just depending on Russell Wilson's longevity and
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  Speaker 3: his ability to bounce back, that is a completely.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, shoot situation. And this is where we are. And
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  Speaker 3: I'm wondering from your perspective, why do you think that
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  Speaker 3: Drew decided to stay too? Because he could have gone.
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  Speaker 3: He could have gone elsewhere. So why do you think
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  Speaker 3: that Seattle was important for him?
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  Speaker 2: I'm glad you asked that. I talked to him at
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  Speaker 2: the Super Bowl about that. And he said, you know what, Greg?
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  Speaker 2: It was just he and I at the San Jose
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  Speaker 2: Convention Center a couple of days before the game. And
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  Speaker 2: he said, you know what? They called me and signed
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  Speaker 2: me about the time my father died last spring.
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  Speaker 3: I did not know that.
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  Speaker 2: No, he did. He said he was stunned. The whole
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  Speaker 2: family was stunned. He was a very successful businessman in
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  Speaker 2: the Kansas City area, Overland Park, Kansas. And he died suddenly.
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  Speaker 2: And Drew Locke, this was the spring of 2025, and
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  Speaker 2: Locke was unsigned at the time. And John Schneider called
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  Speaker 2: him and said, we'd love to have you back. We'll
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  Speaker 2: offer you a two-year deal. And he said, Greg, because
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  Speaker 2: I loved Seattle, I loved the Seahawks culture. I loved
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  Speaker 2: what the locker room's like there. I loved the staff,
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  Speaker 2: the people. I was so comfortable there. I'm coming back.
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  Speaker 2: And he said it was at a time in his
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: life with his father having just passed away that he
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: didn't want unknowns. He didn't want something he couldn't depend on.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: He didn't want someplace he would be uncomfortable in starting
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: over with. So he went back to Seattle then. And
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: he signed not many days after his father died and
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: signed back with the Seahawks. And that's why he's here.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: And then I talked to him at the end of,
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: after the Super Bowl. I made a whole little celebration
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: and we spent all that, you and I spent all
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: that time in the locker room in Santa Clara. And
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: as the celebration was winding down, I went up to
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: him and I say, that was a pretty good choice.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: He goes, great. He said, I said, well, what's next?
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: And he says, well, I got another year on my contract.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: I want to play. That's what he said. He's 29 now.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: He said, but I love it here. And I'm so
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: glad I have a two-year deal. And so here he is.
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: There's just something about this place, man. I just look
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: at John Schneider, and you and I know him well
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: enough now throughout the years that he's been here. I
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: feel like he is a human. He's not a suit.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: And I think that that adds to, you know, everything
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: trickles down, right? This is the kind of facility that
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: he is now the sole head of. You know, it
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: used to be him and Pete, and there's debate about
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: who was doing what. when it came to decision-making, but
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: John is the perfect person to have as a leader.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: And I think that it permeates throughout the facility.
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: It's his tone, isn't it? And then he picks Mike
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: McDonald and Mike McDonald's establishes the culture in the locker room.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: So four, nine, four, five, one on the Tacoma Dodge
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: text line, your panic feeling with Sam Donald out. And
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: usually a starting court. We talk about this all the time.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: You lose your starting quarterback. You're done in this league. Well,
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: They have the number one defense in the NFL, a
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: team that just gave up 10 points to the AFC
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: champions in the opener, and now they're going into Arizona
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: with Drew Locke, not exactly feeling like they're done. In fact,
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: just the opposite. But how do you feel? Because this
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: is usually the death knell for any team, to lose
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: their quarterback in multiple weeks. We'll see. It's still early
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: enough in the season. It's at a point in the
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: schedule where you could say, okay, they're at Arizona. I mean,
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: they should beat Jacoby Percet with Drew Locke. Let's face it.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: With the defense they have, they should beat Jacoby Percet.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: I was mentioning to Chuck this morning, one of the
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: many measures on how the Seahawks have become so much
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: better under Mike McDonald the last two years. If you
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: think about it, Jess, when you remember all the games,
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: the Cardinals would start Josh McCown or Chase Daniel or
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: whoever the hell their random journeyman backup quarterback would be,
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: and they'd beat them. Especially coming here to Seattle, I
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: can remember Josh McCown beating the Seahawks. And you're like,
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: how did that happen? That doesn't happen anymore. The games
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks should win, they win. Think about it. They
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: win because of their defense. They win and beat quarterbacks
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: they should beat. And Sunday they should beat Jacoby Brissett,
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: even with Drew Locke as a quarterback. Then they go
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: to Washington in week three. The commanders coming off a
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: non-playoff season would be a tougher test, you would think,
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: than Arizona, even though the Cardinals just beat the Chargers.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: So that's my first question on the text line, 49451.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: How worried are you? And then the second question for
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: the text line, and I have to ask it because
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: I brought it up last week. Do you think the
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Mariners are quitting so they can get their leaders fired? Oh, no.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: No professional athlete does that.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: You wouldn't think so, but you know what, Jessamyn? In
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Major League Baseball, the contracts are guaranteed. You can't do
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: that in the NFL because they'll cut your butt. In
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Major League Baseball, Mariners have to pay those players. Josh
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: Naylor's getting his $ 90 million whether they go to the
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: playoffs or not. Julia Rodriguez is getting paid $ 200 million
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: whether he bats $ 200 or $ 300. Kyle Raleigh? Down the line,
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: those guys have guaranteed contracts. So they're going to be
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: here longer than the guys leading them are. That's guaranteed.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: There's no way in heck that any professional athlete quits.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: They're quitting. No, they're not. They've lost. to the A's
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: and the Angels with their season in the balance, their
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: last possible hope of contending. They've lost four out of
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: five to the A's and the Angels. All right.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: Well, when we hear from Logan Wilson or Logan Gilbert,
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, that you'll hear in his voice, that's not
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: a quitter. It's just not. I just don't think they're
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: doing that.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: You think there's a mutiny?
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: I think they're not exactly. Let me put it this way.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: It sure looks like they're not in any hurry to
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: make the management or anybody think good about 2027, does it?
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, I already think that Dan Wilson is going
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: to say, you don't have to fire me. I'm gone.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: I'm done with this.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you've predicted that.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: But the question is, Jerry DiPoto and Justin Hollander, are
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: the Mariners planning to get them fired? Because this is
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: so bad. I mean, this is one of the– Joel
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Cian said on our station that this is one of
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: the worst, maybe the worst, most disappointing season in 25
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: years around baseball, not just in Seattle.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: Which is actually really, really sad because we've seen some
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: disappointing seasons here.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: This is a city that's watched 100 lost seasons, and
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: they aren't as bad as this one. Are they playing
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: to not just get Dan Wilson fired because he's not
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: coming back because he's going to say see you. Are
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: they planning to get Jerry DiPoto and Justin Hollander fired?
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: That's how bad this is. But would John Stanton and
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: the 20-plus owners who own the Mariners do that, knowing
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: that they're drawing $ 37, 000 and the hot dogs from heaven
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: and the bobbleheads and the fireworks and all of it?
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: That works.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: Which is separate from baseball operations.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: The baseball operation is broken, and the business model of
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: the Mariners is flourishing. That's the rub.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: And we have to give them credit for that.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: That's just, yeah.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: You go to the ballpark and you have a good time.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: I totally agree with you, Jess.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: I'm not defending the lack of winning. But you do
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: have a good ballpark experience.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: But your baseball operations are broken. And the president of
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: baseball operations has been here 11 years and they've been
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: to the playoffs twice. 49451 at the Coma Dodge text line.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: Those two questions I posed first. Up next... Sam Darnold's injury.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: What we know, what the Seahawks players are saying about
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Drew Locke starting Sunday at Arizona. That's coming up at
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: the Virginia Mason Athletic Center. Glad to be back on
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: 93.3 KJRFM. Hi, welcome back. Virginia Mason Athletic Center Seahawks headquarters.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Why are we here? Because they're getting back into a
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: regular season. Season Mo, Greg Bell, and Jessamyn McIntyre with
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: you as we are every weekday, 10 a.m. to noon
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: here on 93.3 KJRFM. We're back to normal. The Wednesday
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: game last week threw everything out of kilter, but now
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: with the Sunday game, they were off this weekend. They
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: had what they call bonus practice on Monday. They were
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: off yesterday. That's the normal Sunday game week day off,
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Tuesday in the NFL. And then today, regular schedule, Wednesday
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: press conference with Mike McDonald, which is why I'm here.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Cover that as soon as our show's over. while Ian Furness'
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: show takes over, and then practice this afternoon, the first
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: injury report of the game week before they play Arizona
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: on Sunday. And on that report, you're going to see
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: Sam Donald is not participating with an injury that they'll
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: probably put as glute. You're going to see Durlock as
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: the starting quarterback with the number one offense today and
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: at least going forward through this week, probably next in
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: an all-realistically game. Maybe week four he could come back,
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: potentially play against the Chargers in week four, maybe. And
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: that's a big maybe, but that's on the optimistic side.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: But it looks like he's going to miss one or
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: two games in addition to the all but five plays
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: that he missed in the New England game. So what
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: we know so far is that it's not a long-term injury,
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks say. Why do we know that? Not only
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: did the Seahawks spokesman say it the other day, they
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: haven't put him on injured reserve. If they thought this
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: was a longer-term issue, NFL teams, including John Schneider and
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks, They don't just put guys on 53 that
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: can't do anything for four weeks. They put them on
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: injured reserve so they can have another player on the
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: active 53 to contribute. So the fact that Darnold has
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: not gone on IR, which would mean a minimum of
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: four weeks he would be out by league rule, suggests
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: that they think, strongly suggests, that he's going to be
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: back before those four weeks. The other tell is that
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: now they just have Drew Locke and still unproven Jalen Milrow,
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: the second-year quarterback out of Alabama. Those are the only
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: two quarterbacks on the roster. If they thought Darnold was
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: going to be out long term, you would probably see
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: them at least try out some veteran. Now, there aren't
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: a lot of veteran quarterbacks worth playing available in week
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: two of an NFL season, yes. But they would be
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: trying out somebody, whether it was an undrafted rookie that
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: could be a third quarterback, what have you, to run
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: the scout team. But they haven't done that yet either.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: They had three tryouts yesterday of free agents. All of
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: them were not quarterbacks. So it was actually a couple
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: defensive backs and linebackers. So the signs are that they
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: think it's going to be fewer than four weeks. Fewer
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: if you can count, less if you can't. I tell
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: my kids that all the time. Air, water, less. If
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: you can count individual units, fewer.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: That's a further, farther conversation for me.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Exactly. So the fact that they haven't done either of
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: that strongly suggests the Seahawks think it's going to be
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: fewer than four weeks. that Sam Donald is out. But
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: in the meantime, the Seahawks are really confident in Drew Locke.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: I mentioned the last two times that he has had
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: played meaningful snaps for this team. He's won them both.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: He beat the defending champion Eagles in the end of
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: the 2023 season. He beats the Patriots on Wednesday night.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Now he's starting on Sunday in Arizona. This is what
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Byron Murphy said this week. He was representative of what
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: the entire team feels about Drew Locke and not Sam
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: Darnold starting Sunday. With the, uh, with the offense going
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: through some adversity, losing Sam, not knowing when he's going
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: to be back.
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: Does that add any more responsibility for you guys on
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: the defensive side of the ball?
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: Motivate you guys to play even better to help out
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: your offense?
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: Uh, nah, I feel like, you know, it's the same.
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: I feel like Drew's preparing, you know, just like, just
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: like Sam. So, uh, We're going to go into this
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: week with the same mindset, and that's to win. I
• 26:15
  Speaker 6: feel like we're going to be prepared. I feel like
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: Drew's going to be prepared, even the offense, and we're
• 26:19
  Speaker 6: going to be ready. We're going to be ready to go.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: Was Byron Murphy, the defensive tackle, really speaking for the
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: tone of the entire team about Drew Locke coming in? Normally,
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: like we said, backup quarterbacks coming in to start, and
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: you're like, oh, man, sky's falling. That's not the feeling
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: out here.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: No, it isn't. I don't even feel that way. As a,
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: you know, if I'm talking from a fan.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: 49451, the Tacoma Dodge text line doesn't sound like it
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: is either. That's what they're saying. They're saying no panic.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: They said that Drew Locke can ball. 253, Drew is
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: a competent quarterback, especially as a number two, is more
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: than capable of game managing the offense, which is what
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: they need with that defense. No worries going forward. Of course,
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Drew Locke's number one task on Sunday at Arizona, and
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: if he plays the next Sunday at Washington, don't turn
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: the ball over. They have a defense that should beat
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Jacoby Brissett. They have a defense that should beat the
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: Commanders on the road. They have a defense that did
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: beat the Commanders on the road last year, like 34-10.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: So don't turn the ball over. Don't give the Cardinals,
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: after the Cardinals feeling good about themselves coming home for
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: their home opener after walloping the Chargers out of nowhere.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what was that? Did somebody have factor fiction.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: For that one? What was the Harbaugh team there? Somebody
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: did pick factor fiction for that. I think it was
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: on a show. I can't remember which show.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: Did they win?
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: No, I think.
• 27:40
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Cause they're two and three right now.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Charger blood. But I mean, I don't care. Jacoby Brissett,
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks should be just don't give the Cardinals the
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: ball on the minus side of the 50 yard line.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Don't give them the ball short enough that they can
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: get points without driving on the Seahawks offense and you'll win.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: That's how I view the Seahawks and the Cardinals on Sunday.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: And that's the confidence that Brian Murphy is talking about
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: the guys have come from seeing what Drew Locke did
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: the other day. It bears repeating. Locke completed 16 to
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: 22 passes for 187 yards, the tying touchdown to Jackson
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Smith and Jigman in the fourth quarter without playing a
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: single snap in practice of the game plan. Zero. You
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: listening had as much time preparing on the field for
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: that game plan as Drew Locke did. People think that
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: it's like high school where the backup quarterback gets some reps,
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: he just gets some experience, and the head coach wants
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: to see him. Nuh-uh, not in the NFL. The collective
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: bargaining agreement limits these guys on the field in the season.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: They give a mandatory Tuesday. Most teams give a completely
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: off Monday from the field. They come in and do
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: treatment and film study and meetings. But a day after game,
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: teams are rarely on the field anymore unless they have
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: a Thursday game that week. Tuesday is the mandatory NFL weekend.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: day off for Sunday-to-Sunday games. The collective bargaining agreement requires it.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Wednesday's when they practice, but they're limited in how many
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: hours they can be on the field. Thursday, same thing. Friday,
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: same thing. And if you're traveling to the East Coast,
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: you leave Friday. If you're traveling to Phoenix, in this case,
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: they leave Saturday afternoon. And they have a walk-through practice
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: in T-shirts and bucket hats before they get on the plane.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: That's it. Because that is such a limited amount of time,
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: the number one quarterback gets all the reps.
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: Of course.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Because they've got to go through two-minute, they've got
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: to go through third downs, they've got to go through
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: short yardage and goal line, all those practice periods they do,
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: the game plan. Those packages of plays change every week,
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: of course, depending on the opponent they play. So they
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: have to practice those in the game, and the number
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: one quarterback has to practice those. So what was Drew
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Locke doing leading into the opener? He was running Drake
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: May's offense and the Patriots' offense as the scout team quarterback.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: The number two quarterback in the NFL does that. Now,
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: if it's a running quarterback they're about to face, they'll
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: throw Jalen Milrow in there to give him a more
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: elusive quarterback look. But the point is, Drew Locke got
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: zero reps with this game plan last week. So Chuck
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: asked me this morning, who has the advantage? The Cardinals,
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: who haven't seen a game plan, and now they get
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: a backup quarterback for Drew Locke in the Seahawks offense,
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: or do the Seahawks have it in that the Cardinals
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: haven't seen Locke? And I said, well, They haven't seen
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: Locke run Brian Fleury's offense with preparation and game planning
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: of it. He was ad hoc on the fly against
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: the Patriots. This time, he's got a full week of
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Brian Fleury installing the offense to Drew Locke and Locke
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: carrying it out on the field. Locke is going to
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: be so much better steeped, much, much more effective in
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: what Fleury wants to do the entire breadth of the play.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: It's not that Locke didn't know the plays. It's that
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: he hadn't run the plays in the practice for that
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: game week. Well, now he will. So their offense should
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: be much broader, and they should have much, much more
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: at their disposal specific to the opponent than they did
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: last week. They were relying on stuff they had installed
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: during the season, regardless of opponent, during the preseason, regardless
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: of opponent. Remember the fourth down play we talked about
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: with Jackson Smith and Jigba that tied the game, the
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: 45-yard catch on fourth and one?
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was pretty– That was pretty.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: It was. And after the game, Locke explained it wasn't
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: just that he was surprised and appreciated the pat on
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: the butt, as he said, from Brian Fleury that they
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: were going to go for it and not do a
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: barnyard push on fourth and one, but that they ran
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: a play they had not practiced that game week. That
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: play was not in the game plan. The fourth and
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: one little hitch from Smith and Jigba as a third
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: read from right to left was not in the game plan,
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: but they had installed that in the spring and summer.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: So Locke had done that. And I had to bet
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: if Brian Flurry probably made that call, knowing that Locke
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: was probably better off running that play than a game
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: plan specific play for fourth and one that he hadn't practiced.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: See my point? This year, excuse me, this week for
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: this game, Flurry doesn't have to do that. He doesn't
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: have to go back to his June and July and
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: August staple of plays that Locke ran because Locke will
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: now have been running the game plan specific for the
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Cardinals this week. And that to me is a big difference.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: to how this offense, how more the breadth they can
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: have specific to the Cardinals defense that they didn't have
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: against the Patriots.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: It will be interesting to see their scheme. I'm totally
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: with you on that. I come in with pure curiosity,
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: and I think it'll be interesting.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: What are they going to do?
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: Are they going to Sam Darnold protect the ball in
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: the Super Bowl? Or do they have a different package?
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Well, I think they're going to get the full package
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: of plays specific to the Cardinals' defense. They can trust
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: Drew Locke to do that. I don't think they just
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: need him to be a game manager on Sunday. I
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: think it's going to be Jadarian Price even more than
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: we saw Price in the opener. I don't think you're
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: going to have to have training wheels or a governor
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: on what Locke can do and how to manage through
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: the game. He'll take his shots down the field. But
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: the bottom line is they have a defense that if
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: they need to do what you just said, they can
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: have the quarterback go into turtle shell. They can. It'd
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: still be Jacoby Brissett. They can.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: I do like the turtle shell visual that it gives me.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: That's good because there's like a euphemism attached to turtles.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: And I think both ends make sense.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: It's from all the sea turtles that I saw in
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: the ocean.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: Oh, I can't wait to hear more about that. Oh,
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: just they're so like graceful, majestic, slow. They're like, chill out, man.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: Just chill out.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh. They're revered in Hawaii, too. You
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: can't get near them. There's all kinds of state rules.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: There were people trying to saddle up the ones that
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: were on the beach on the North Shore, trying to
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: put Instagram pictures and stuff. And there are volunteers with
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: the Ecological Society and nature people in Hawaii that shoo
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: those people away. You're supposed to have a 10-feet radius
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: around sea turtles.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like one swam up on me, and I was like, no,
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: this is, I'm not supposed to do this. Yeah. When
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: I was snorkeling just like off of a hotel beach,
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: and one was just like right next to me, and
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: I'm like, this is your fault, I'm like.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: By the way, I had not spent any time on Oahu,
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: the north shore of Oahu, Haleiwa, and all the way
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: up in North Turtle Bay, all over.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh. The North Shore that swells up there
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: are a little bit different.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the pipeline and all that. We went surfing, but
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: not there. We went to a place called Chun's Reef
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: and more three or four foot waves instead of three
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: or four waves. 49451, your level of concern with Drew Locke,
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: not Sam Donald, the quarterback. And also, do you think
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: the Mariners are playing to get their leaders fired? I'm
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: talking the president and the general manager because that's how
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: it looks right now. It looks like they're trying to
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: get the house cleaned by the way they're performing. Or
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: am I off base? I don't think they're doing that.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: I just disagree. Okay.
• 35:09
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: One vote for Jess. One vote for Greg.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Losing four or five to the A's and Angels. I'm
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: talking two of the worst teams in the league in
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: many years. Suggest that they aren't just playing out the string,
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: but they just seem to be doing it with a purpose.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: 49451.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: We'll read back your text at 1130. But up next.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about the Mariners. Let's talk about what Logan
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: Gilbert said. Somewhat expanded conversation about the team's failures and
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: the mess of a season. He said that in Anaheim
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: last night. You'll hear from Logan Gilbert next. 11 o'clock,
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: Jory Epstein in her first of a season-long series of
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: weekly stops from Yahoo Sports, the NFL senior writer. She
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: was in Kansas City for the Kenneth Walker Chiefs debut.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: On Monday night, we'll talk to her at 11. Ian's
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: right next to me. He'll be on the show 12
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: to 3. We'll talk to him at 11.45 on what
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: he's got going on on 93.3 KJRFM. Hi, welcome back
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: to the Virginia Mason Athletic Center and Seahawks headquarters. Greg Bell,
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: Justin McIntyre, as we are every day, 10 a.m. to
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: noon here on 93.3 KTRFM. I'm fresh off a plane
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: late last night, a Hawaiian Airlines jet from Honolulu.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: Get some tan, Greg.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: I got to see our daughter, Ensign Sarah Bell.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: What is so cool about her?
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: How is Sarah? She's okay.
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: She's qualified. Going through it?
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: She's going through it. She just got back from Japan.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: Now they're loading up the boat and getting it prepared
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: and ready to go out to the Bering Sea. She's
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: going to spend... Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Year's in the
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Bering Sea.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: She is going through it.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure why those that are stationed in Hawaii
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: have to spend the winter in the Bering Sea. Part
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: of the gig. Yesterday, she qualified on M9, a 9mm
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: Beretta firing qualification. So she can be a boarding officer
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: to go on to ships if she needs to. They
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: carry firearms to do that. She has absolutely no gun
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: background at all. I mean, zero.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: Sarah and I share something in common.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: We didn't even have water guns in our house when
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: we were growing up. And, yes, she was tickled that
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: she passed yesterday on her third try.
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: That's great.
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: Congrats, Sarah.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: That's Sarah Bell. Yeah, so we went surfing and hiking
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: and went to the lighthouse, Coco Point at the eastern
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: edge of Oahu. I hadn't spent any time in Oahu
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: before that. It was great. It was awesome. Well-deserved. Well-deserved, Greg.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: I appreciate that. Thank you. It was great. Great time.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Logan Gilbert and the Mariners. Well, not so much Logan Gilbert.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: He's doing his part. But the Mariners are playing like
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: they're already on vacation in Hawaii. They have lost 4-5
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: on the road trip to the A's and the Angels
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: on a nine-game trip. They play the third game of
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: that series tonight. Logan Gilbert last night, six innings, only
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: six hits allowed, only two runs allowed, seven strikeouts, and
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: they still lost because the Mariners got only one run
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: and struck out nine times against the Angels, losing 2-1.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: And after the game, Logan Gilbert spoke at somewhat of length.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: You'll hear Ryan Divish of the Seattle Times, the Mariners'
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: beat writer, and others asking about this entire season at large. Why?
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: Why?
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: Because last night clinched the Mariners' first losing season since 2019.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: This is Logan Gilbert in Anaheim last night.
• 38:27
  Speaker 8: I mean, it's really disappointing. Everybody knows that. I think
• 38:31
  Speaker 8: the most frustrating part is, like, we've kind of been
• 38:34
  Speaker 8: saying it all year, and everybody thought it would turn,
• 38:37
  Speaker 8: and play 160 games, things are going to turn around,
• 38:40
  Speaker 8: because we know we have a good team, and just
• 38:42
  Speaker 8: never really turned around, and that's on us. Like, got
• 38:45
  Speaker 8: to play better, got to execute and do what we
• 38:47
  Speaker 8: need to do. But it is pretty surprising that we're
• 38:50
  Speaker 8: at this point. I don't think anybody thought we'd be here,
• 38:53
  Speaker 8: but that's the situation we're in.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: Will it take, like, after the season to really kind
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: of reflect and figure out where it kind of went
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: so wrong, do you think?
• 39:02
  Speaker 9: Or do you have ideas now?
• 39:04
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think everybody at this point has been thinking
• 39:07
  Speaker 8: about it and stuff because, like, I think there will
• 39:11
  Speaker 8: be some reflection and conversations that, need to be had
• 39:16
  Speaker 8: with players, with coaches, just everybody getting on the same
• 39:18
  Speaker 8: page and assessing what happened. This is the kind of
• 39:23
  Speaker 8: thing that can't happen and you can't let it happen again.
• 39:26
  Speaker 8: but it's baseball but it's frustrating because i believe we
• 39:30
  Speaker 8: have the talent in that room and it's a lot
• 39:33
  Speaker 8: of people would say a lot of people in that
• 39:36
  Speaker 8: clubhouse would say we haven't played up to the standards
• 39:37
  Speaker 8: that we set for ourselves so it's it's been frustrating
• 39:41
  Speaker 8: all year and on.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: The positive side can you say something about what you
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: thought you did well tonight.
• 39:47
  Speaker 8: Who's that me I mean, I lost the game for us. No, it's–
• 39:55
  Speaker 8: I mean, there are positives. I don't ever want to
• 39:57
  Speaker 8: be too negative. But, you know, we lost a 2-1
• 39:59
  Speaker 8: game in a game that we should have won, and
• 40:02
  Speaker 8: I gave up the last run. So that's kind of
• 40:05
  Speaker 8: the situation that we're in. So, yeah, it's disappointing.
• 40:09
  Speaker 7: Well, you've talked about and others have talked about that
• 40:11
  Speaker 7: throughout the year it's just been hard to get everybody
• 40:14
  Speaker 7: kind of functioning at the same time. Sometimes the starting
• 40:17
  Speaker 7: pitching is there. and the hitting isn't sometimes the hitting is,
• 40:20
  Speaker 7: what is that like when you don't have that consistency
• 40:24
  Speaker 7: all year?
• 40:25
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I think we kind of hit on that a
• 40:27
  Speaker 8: couple of times, the timing, like you said, and it's,
• 40:29
  Speaker 8: it's tough because what do you do to make it happen?
• 40:32
  Speaker 8: I don't think anybody knows how to time up everything
• 40:34
  Speaker 8: at the same time. That's historically when we went on
• 40:37
  Speaker 8: those runs and been, you know, the best team in
• 40:39
  Speaker 8: the league or in the division at times and just
• 40:44
  Speaker 8: haven't really seen that this year. Um, Especially the timing
• 40:48
  Speaker 8: of it. That's another frustrating part that we've seen flashes
• 40:52
  Speaker 8: of good hitting.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: We've seen flashes of good pitching and bullpen, everything.
• 40:56
  Speaker 8: It's just getting on the same page at the same time. And,
• 40:59
  Speaker 8: you know, it's a great game, but it's also can
• 41:03
  Speaker 8: be frustrating at the same time. So that's part of it.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: Mariners started Logan Gilbert last night after losing two to one.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: A loss that clinches the Mariners having a losing season
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: for the first time since 2019, which, yes, was the
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: start of this teardown that was supposed to build back
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: up to get to a World Series, and it still
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: hasn't happened. And the Mariners, a World Series favorite, who
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: the team owner on this station, John Stanton, on opening
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: day said to Dave Softy Mahler, depending on injuries, this
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: team should compete for the World Series. Now, Jerry DiPoto
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: can come back and say, look at all the injuries
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: we've had, Brendan Donovan, J.P. Crawford. to our pitching staff,
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: Kyle Raleigh wasn't healthy for the first part of the season.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: All true. But the fact remains that they were underperforming
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: while those guys were healthy and before they got hurt.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: And this has been without a doubt, the most frustrating,
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: disappointing season in Mariners history. Oh boy.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: That is definitely saying something, Greg, that is, that is
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: a rough go. Um, because I know that there have been,
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: I mean, 2001, um, you know, two, the Yankees just
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: did what they did. And I wasn't even here at
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: that time. But I know all about it. There are
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: so many times where they, and I'm not saying that
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: they have clutched defeat from the jaws of victory or
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: anything like that. But this one, it just, you kept waiting.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: You just kept waiting for them to do it.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: And it never happened. Logan Gilbert speaking on the Mariners saying, quote,
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: this is the kind of thing that can happen. I
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: believe we have the talent. We haven't played up to
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: our standard. And they have not. And that'll be the
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: postscript to this Mariners season, the most disappointing one ever. 49451,
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: your reaction to what Logan Gilbert had to say. The
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: players should be wearing this on the Tacoma Dodge textile
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: rebates back at 1130. 1135, we'll have Factor Fiction, my pick.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: I'm staying local. I mean, really local.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's a tease, Greg.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: On your home for the dogs on 93.3 KJR FM.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: But up next. Jory Epstein of the senior NFL writer
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: for Yahoo Sports. She was at the Seahawks Patriots owner
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: sitting in the press box with me last week. She
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: was in Kansas City watching Kenneth Walker's debut for Andy
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: Reid's Chiefs that went so swimmingly well for Walker in
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: Kansas City. Jory is up on the first of our
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: season-long weekly visits with Jory Epstein next on 93.3 KJRFM.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: Now, from the Star Reynolds Sports Desk, your 93.3 KJR
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: FM Sports Headlines.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: Aloha. And all of that. Hello. Thank you. Frostbrewed Coors Light.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: As cold as the Rockies and Seahawks. Practicing today. Beginning
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: their practice week for Sunday's game at Arizona. Drew Locke's
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: going to start it. It's going to be his first
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: start for the Seahawks since December of 23. Sam Darnold
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: out indefinitely. with that soft tissue injury around the area
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: of the hip, but not the hip bone. At least
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: Arizona on Sunday for Drew Locke, and if not beyond,
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: at Washington the following week. The Mariners, well, that easy
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: part of the schedule isn't quite so easy, is it?
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: They've lost now four or five in a nine-game road
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: trip through Sacramento and Anaheim. 2-1 loss last night. Man,
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: there's not a lot more to say. Logan Gilbert said
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: it last segment, this is unacceptable. The Milwaukee Brewers, lower
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: payroll than the Mariners, 2-1. $ 21 million lower. Won the
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: National League Central Division last night. Clinched the title. First
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: Major League Baseball team to clinch a title this season.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: NBA Commissioner Adam Silver said the league spent people to
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: Climate Pledge Arena in Seattle and found that if they
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: could have that arena, Climate Pledge Arena, ready to host
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: NBA games in five weeks. That's the opposite of the
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: situation in Las Vegas where they don't have an NBA-ready arena.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: They don't even have concrete owners. The league's ready to
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: award an expansion franchise to So now the efforts will
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: be on settling Las Vegas' situation. Seattle seems set. All
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: that still means we don't know when the league's going
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: to announce the Sonics are coming back. Silver now says
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: at the end of this year for an announcement on expansion. Yeah, okay, sure.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: Enough already with that. Can we move on to getting
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: them back, please? We're like 20 years overdue. The Sounders
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: are losing leading scorer Paul Rothrock for eight to ten weeks,
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: which is pretty much at the end of the season,
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: the way the Sounders haven't been winning lately. The 2-0
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: barely Washington Huskies host the Eastern Washington Eags on Saturday
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: at 4.15 right here on 93.3 KJRFM. This morning, ESPN's
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: Joe Buck has agreed to a new contract worth more
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: than $ 100 million. It's going to keep him as the
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: voice of Monday Night Football into the next decade. And
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: the NFL, the NBA, Major League Baseball, NHL, and MLS
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: issued a joint statement uniting in an effort to crack
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: down on betting related to harassment of players, coaches, and
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: their families. The WNBA criticized the NBA for not including
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: them in its statement and Adam Silver said, well, the
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: WNBA needs less divisive leadership moving forward.
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: Interesting.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: I'm not going on the WNBA this year. Jory Epstein,
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: I am so happy to have her back. She is
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: the senior NFL writer for Yahoo Sports. She was on
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: my show a couple years ago when Christopher Kidd and
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: I had it. And now she's back on the station.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: I'm proud to have her on our show, become a
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: good friend of mine. I saw her last week in
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: the press box. in Seattle for the Patriots-Seahawks NFL Open.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: Then she went to Kansas City, was in Kenneth Walker's
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: debut as a Chief Monday night when the Chiefs rolled
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: the Broncos. Jory is on the Beacon Plumbing Hotline. Good morning, ma'am.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: Good afternoon for you.
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: Greg, great to be on with you. Great to be
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: back on the show.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: You are back. we're working, they're, they're fighting over who
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: to sponsor you. And it might be a familiar pizza eater.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: We're trying to figure all this out right now.
• 46:49
  Speaker 10: We've got my picture from.
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: My run on us.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: If they, if they name the sponsor.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: So we, they're fighting over you right now. So you
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: were in Seattle last week, Patriots, Seahawks. Of course, the big,
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: big story is Sam Donald being injured, but, I'm going
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: to ask you about that in a second, but your
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: general thoughts on the Seahawks Patriots on both teams and
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: what the Seahawks look like to you as, as defending
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: Superbowl champions.
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely.
• 47:17
  Speaker 10: I think the Seahawks showed us that they've built a
• 47:19
  Speaker 10: team that doesn't rely too much on any single player.
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: There are different ways the Seahawks can win.
• 47:23
  Speaker 10: And I think, When you see Sam Darnold go out
• 47:26
  Speaker 10: so early in the game, you kind of wonder, hey,
• 47:29
  Speaker 10: they're going to be able to do this. I mean,
• 47:30
  Speaker 10: this is a good Patriots team, or at least they
• 47:32
  Speaker 10: were a good team last year.
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: And all of a sudden, you're.
• 47:36
  Speaker 10: Like, oh, no, how about three interceptions here? How about
• 47:38
  Speaker 10: a running back who can make moves here? How about
• 47:41
  Speaker 10: Jackson Smith and Jigba once again stepping up to make
• 47:43
  Speaker 10: things a little bit easier on Drew Locke?
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: And so I think.
• 47:46
  Speaker 10: That we saw the Seahawks face adversity really early in
• 47:50
  Speaker 10: the season.
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: They responded.
• 47:52
  Speaker 9: And I think.
• 47:53
  Speaker 10: When you look at it, it's like, what were they
• 47:55
  Speaker 10: able to do? And also, what can they do next?
• 47:57
  Speaker 10: Which is, the biggest problems when Drew Locke was in
• 48:00
  Speaker 10: the game, to me, wasn't missed passes. It was some
• 48:02
  Speaker 10: of the penalties, kind of that pre-snap stuff. Once he
• 48:05
  Speaker 10: has more first-team snaps, I think that he'll be able
• 48:08
  Speaker 10: to get a little bit of a handle on that,
• 48:09
  Speaker 10: and everyone else will get a little more used to
• 48:11
  Speaker 10: playing with him.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: Good point, Joy. Seven pre-snap penalties, a big focus of
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: practice this week for the Seahawks from that game against
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: the Patriots. What did you think of Drake May? I mean,
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: 10 of 12 to start the game. He's got him
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: up 10-0 in the second half. He throws the first
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: interception nearly as bad as the last with a jump
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: ball into double coverage that got tipped by Rodney Thomas
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: into Nehemiah Pritchett's hands, and that really started the comeback.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: The Seahawks got a field goal out of that one.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: The second interception, Julian Love just baited him into over
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: the middle and broke late on the ball, picked it off.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: That set up the touchdown to tie the game. And
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: then the last one. I mean, a seventh-grade quarterback doesn't
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: make that play. You're under pressure, backpedaling in the end
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: zone with a field goal in hand in your back
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: pocket to force overtime, and you just hey you it.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, you talk about a YOLO ball with the
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: game on the line. How concerning was that interception? Not
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: so much the throw, which is physically bad enough, but
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: the decision, the thought process at that point in the
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: game in that situation.
• 49:11
  Speaker 10: Yeah, it was concerning, and he knew that after the game.
• 49:14
  Speaker 10: I mean, Drake's saying this, Rabel's saying this. He's like, look,
• 49:16
  Speaker 10: I lost patience, and I can't do that, and the
• 49:19
  Speaker 10: team expects better.
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: From me.
• 49:20
  Speaker 10: I think we kind of see quarterbacks, when they feel
• 49:23
  Speaker 10: like things aren't going well around them, feel like they
• 49:25
  Speaker 10: need to play hero ball.
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: They need to do more than they're probably able to do.
• 49:29
  Speaker 10: And he's like, oh, well, you know, Matt Collins made
• 49:31
  Speaker 10: a good play earlier in that drive and he's in
• 49:33
  Speaker 10: the end zone and maybe I'll get it to him.
• 49:35
  Speaker 10: And Matt Collins also told us after the game, I
• 49:37
  Speaker 10: was in their locker room and he's like, look, I
• 49:39
  Speaker 10: needed to back that ball down.
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: It was a little bit far for him to do that.
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: So I don't think.
• 49:42
  Speaker 10: Mac was just like giving up. But Drake is not
• 49:45
  Speaker 10: able to do that. And what concerns me is not
• 49:48
  Speaker 10: that he did it this game. Yes, you don't want
• 49:50
  Speaker 10: to be making those decisions, but lots of people have
• 49:52
  Speaker 10: moments like that. I mean, we saw Dak Prescott throw
• 49:54
  Speaker 10: an interception, kind of similar vibes where he should have
• 49:57
  Speaker 10: thrown it out of bounds before halftime against the Giants.
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: Ultimately was really notable in their loss.
• 50:02
  Speaker 10: Not the same stakes as the end of the game
• 50:03
  Speaker 10: in that first game of the NFL season, but we
• 50:06
  Speaker 10: do see this around the league. I think what's concerning
• 50:08
  Speaker 10: is A.J. Brown's not coming back for at least four
• 50:10
  Speaker 10: weeks with that high ankle sprain. He was their off-season acquisition,
• 50:14
  Speaker 10: kind of their prize target. They traded for him on
• 50:16
  Speaker 10: June 1st. and when he was in the game earlier,
• 50:19
  Speaker 10: we saw third downs.
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: A.J.
• 50:21
  Speaker 10: Brown was a very reliable safety valve to keep him
• 50:23
  Speaker 10: on the field. After he was off, it kind of
• 50:26
  Speaker 10: felt like the Seahawks defensive backs knew where Drake's passes
• 50:28
  Speaker 10: were going a little more than some of the Patriots receivers,
• 50:31
  Speaker 10: and not single him out, but Romeo Dobbs.
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: I think he's new to that system. It did not
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: seem like they were on the same page.
• 50:36
  Speaker 10: I couldn't tell you which one was right in which situations,
• 50:40
  Speaker 10: but I think that... take a little bit more time
• 50:43
  Speaker 10: for Drake May and his current weapons to figure out
• 50:45
  Speaker 10: what they need to do, and the schedule's not getting easier.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: Jory Epstein, a senior NFL writer for Yahoo Sports, is
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: joining us, as she will, every week during the NFL
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: season here on 93.3 KJRFM on the Beacon Plumbing Hotline. Ma'am,
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: you were in Kansas City at Arrowhead Stadium on Monday night,
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: and you saw the debut of Kenneth Walker, and man,
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: did Andy Reid go for him. 68% of the offensive snaps,
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: 29 opportunities for him, 23 carries for 170-plus yards. Six
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: targets in the pass game from Patrick Mahomes, and Mahomes
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: has returned from injury. A bofo debut for Kenneth Walker,
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: for sure, but we know out here in Seattle his
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: injury history. The text line's already blowing up with, man,
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Did you get any sense of whether
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: the Chiefs think they can do this the entire season,
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: or was this a one-off that they know they're going
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: to have to taper him to Kenneth Walker?
• 51:38
  Speaker 10: Yeah, it's a great question, Greg, and I think it
• 51:40
  Speaker 10: very much ties into where is Patrick Mahomes and his recovery. Obviously,
• 51:44
  Speaker 10: it's fun for us to all see Patrick back. It's
• 51:46
  Speaker 10: fun for us to see the 15-yard rushing touchdown he had,
• 51:48
  Speaker 10: which was actually supposed to be a play to Travis
• 51:51
  Speaker 10: Kelsey at the beginning of the game. And instead, Patrick
• 51:53
  Speaker 10: kind of took it all the way, dives into the
• 51:55
  Speaker 10: end zone. And everyone's like, I mean, Chris Jones had
• 51:57
  Speaker 10: found some tackle when I asked him about it. It
• 51:59
  Speaker 10: was like, yep, I held my breath until he got up.
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: Because I'm like, QB1.
• 52:02
  Speaker 10: Do we need you diving into the end zone, the
• 52:05
  Speaker 10: first series of the game?
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: But really what.
• 52:07
  Speaker 10: This comes down to is Patrick Mahomes told us he
• 52:10
  Speaker 10: felt physically back.
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: But not mentally back.
• 52:13
  Speaker 10: And what he means by that is the speed of
• 52:15
  Speaker 10: the game is still a little bit of an adjustment,
• 52:17
  Speaker 10: the trusting of his knee after the rehabilitation and surgical
• 52:20
  Speaker 10: repair of his ACL and LCL. And so for Patrick,
• 52:24
  Speaker 10: he was like, look, I was overstriding at some points
• 52:26
  Speaker 10: and then I threw some low passes. I was rushing
• 52:29
  Speaker 10: because I didn't totally trust my knee and the protection
• 52:31
  Speaker 10: and especially with the left tackle out, although credit to
• 52:34
  Speaker 10: Khalil Benson, the rookie, he did a great job. But
• 52:36
  Speaker 10: Patrick was rushing and not getting to his second and
• 52:38
  Speaker 10: third reads. And so when all that comes, you end
• 52:41
  Speaker 10: up having more on Kenneth Walker, who's got the 191
• 52:44
  Speaker 10: yards for a scrimmage and 173 particularly rushing because, hey,
• 52:49
  Speaker 10: what about that 60-yard touchdown? Well, that was on a
• 52:51
  Speaker 10: fourth and one play. Well, you're not at fourth and
• 52:53
  Speaker 10: one if you convert on third down, obviously. And some
• 52:55
  Speaker 10: of this was Patrick was not fully on his game.
• 52:57
  Speaker 10: So I think there's the injury element to be aware
• 53:00
  Speaker 10: of for Kenneth, but I also think that Kenneth Walker
• 53:03
  Speaker 10: will not need to do as much because Patrick Mahomes
• 53:05
  Speaker 10: is going to round back into form. He's going to
• 53:07
  Speaker 10: get comfortable with the speed of the game, and then
• 53:09
  Speaker 10: he's going to make more of those passes off of
• 53:11
  Speaker 10: his progressions.
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: So you're saying week seven, when the Chiefs come here
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: to Lumen Field in Seattle, we're going to get the
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: full Patrick Mahomes by then, you think?
• 53:21
  Speaker 10: I think, yes, I think he'll be ready. Now, does
• 53:23
  Speaker 10: that mean they'll have a pass-heavy attack? I think each
• 53:25
  Speaker 10: game by game, I mean, we see Andy Reid and
• 53:28
  Speaker 10: Steve Spagnuolo, their play callers are as good as it comes.
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: And so they're going to.
• 53:32
  Speaker 10: Change their game plan week to week. But I don't
• 53:34
  Speaker 10: think that Patrick will have the limitations in week seven
• 53:36
  Speaker 10: that he.
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: Had this week. And I don't think he was super limited.
• 53:39
  Speaker 10: But I thought he was very honest afterwards about not
• 53:42
  Speaker 10: feeling like he was playing in his best form.
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker being the aid to that return. Patrick Mahomes
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: in Kansas City. In Dallas, your former stomping grounds, the
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: old beat used to cover. Brian Schottenheimer and the Cowboys
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: spent the entire offseason talking defense, thinking defense, drafting defense,
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: making moves for defense. And then they give up 400
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: yards to the Giants. What is going on in Dallas
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: with the defense? Is it fixable?
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: I think it's fixable.
• 54:12
  Speaker 10: I think that we'll see exactly where the talent's at.
• 54:15
  Speaker 10: But when you look at it, I mean, next-gen stats
• 54:16
  Speaker 10: had a great line about how in all three of
• 54:19
  Speaker 10: the touchdowns that the Giants scored, they were wide open,
• 54:22
  Speaker 10: which next-gen stats was essentially defining as the nearest defender
• 54:26
  Speaker 10: was at least five yards away from the guy making
• 54:29
  Speaker 10: the play. And so when you think about that, that's not, oh,
• 54:31
  Speaker 10: we missed the tackle. It's we weren't even there to
• 54:33
  Speaker 10: make the tackle. And you say that because... that Brian
• 54:38
  Speaker 10: Schottenheimer their head coach said afterwards it was more of
• 54:40
  Speaker 10: a communication issue than a fundamentals issue now there's some
• 54:43
  Speaker 10: of both going on there particularly at some point you
• 54:45
  Speaker 10: just can't have them run the same play to the
• 54:48
  Speaker 10: left side over and over again and not stop them
• 54:50
  Speaker 10: but I think this is not everyone was really ready
• 54:53
  Speaker 10: for their assignments you have Malik Hooker veteran safety who
• 54:55
  Speaker 10: goes out with a broken forearm early in the game
• 54:58
  Speaker 10: you had a hamstring injury to another player.
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: And so I think that they will improve.
• 55:03
  Speaker 10: I think this week will be interesting because they play
• 55:05
  Speaker 10: the Washington Commanders. The Commanders have a pretty rough offensive line.
• 55:08
  Speaker 10: They had a challenging one before Laramie Tunzel was out
• 55:11
  Speaker 10: for the season, even more so after. And so can
• 55:13
  Speaker 10: this defensive front get any pressure to take some of
• 55:17
  Speaker 10: the load off of.
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: The defensive backs? I think that'll be important.
• 55:20
  Speaker 10: But it's Christian Parker's first game.
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: It didn't look good. No one's denying that.
• 55:24
  Speaker 10: But I also think that any play caller on offense
• 55:27
  Speaker 10: or defense in their first game is going to need
• 55:29
  Speaker 10: a little bit of an acclimation. And so I'd rather see, hey,
• 55:31
  Speaker 10: after three, four weeks, where are they at?
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: Jory Epstein, senior writer for the NFL for Yahoo Sports,
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: is joining us in the Beacon Plumbing Haunt. And, Jory,
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: I haven't talked to you since when you came to
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: Seahawks camp the next day. You broke the story that
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: DeMarcus Lawrence, your Cowboys buddy, told you this is his
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: last season. What did you get out of that? And
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: you've covered his career before we have here in Seattle
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: and how fulfilled he is finally winning a Super Bowl,
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: yet he came back for one other season. What did
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: you learn about that?
• 56:01
  Speaker 10: Yeah, it was really interesting because I guess there's conversations
• 56:05
  Speaker 10: as DeMarcus had told you guys about whether he was
• 56:07
  Speaker 10: even going to come back for this season.
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: And it wasn't whether he could still play at a
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: high level.
• 56:11
  Speaker 10: I mean, you saw even at the end of the game,
• 56:12
  Speaker 10: I believe DeMarcus had the pressure on Drake May for
• 56:14
  Speaker 10: that last interception to.
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: Win the game. And so he's still being really effective.
• 56:19
  Speaker 10: And the thing about DeMarcus is that some of his
• 56:20
  Speaker 10: effectiveness won't be captured in stat lines because he's an
• 56:24
  Speaker 10: effective pass rusher, but run stopping and being able to
• 56:26
  Speaker 10: do both of those have always been kind of his calling.
• 56:29
  Speaker 4: Card that people around the league are so impressed with.
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: So when... I talked to him about that decision.
• 56:35
  Speaker 10: The challenge is he's got his wife and six kids
• 56:37
  Speaker 10: in Dallas right now. They all live back there. And
• 56:40
  Speaker 10: I mean, his last kid was born, what was it,
• 56:43
  Speaker 10: the day after the Super Bowl, I believe?
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: Yes, it was.
• 56:45
  Speaker 10: The Sunday Super Bowl, Monday, new kid born, Thursday parade.
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: Maybe Wednesday, you would know that part better than I do.
• 56:51
  Speaker 10: And so he kind of had this decision of, do
• 56:53
  Speaker 10: I want to leave my family again for six months?
• 56:56
  Speaker 10: But ultimately, he felt like he is still playing at
• 56:58
  Speaker 10: a high level. there's kind of that identity question when
• 57:01
  Speaker 10: guys are leaving football, like this is who I am
• 57:04
  Speaker 10: and what I do. Am I ready for that next chapter?
• 57:06
  Speaker 10: And he wasn't quite ready for the next chapter. And
• 57:08
  Speaker 10: he and his wife were on the same page of
• 57:10
  Speaker 10: this decision. So he's not saying, I feel like from
• 57:13
  Speaker 10: a physical standpoint and injuries, I only have one more
• 57:15
  Speaker 10: year left. He was instead saying, I think I can
• 57:18
  Speaker 10: only justify one more year away from my family to,
• 57:21
  Speaker 10: to play this game. So yeah, Um, I'm excited to
• 57:23
  Speaker 10: see what his last year brings. I think that it's,
• 57:26
  Speaker 10: I'm happy for players and they can kind of go
• 57:28
  Speaker 10: out on.
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: Their own terms, God willing, no injuries.
• 57:30
  Speaker 10: And so, uh, I guess he's got plenty left in
• 57:33
  Speaker 10: the tank for this year, even if he chooses to
• 57:34
  Speaker 10: hang it up after.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: Real life, they are real players and real people, aren't they?
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: They're not just widgets.
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: It's good to be reminded of that. Joey, what else
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: stood out to you about week one across the league?
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: I know Yahoo has you covering the league at large
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: and your thoughts on what happened week one.
• 57:54
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I'll give you two quick hits and then one
• 57:56
  Speaker 10: random story. I feel like that's what we've got to
• 57:58
  Speaker 10: do every week. I'm going to tell you this, Greg.
• 57:59
  Speaker 10: Like one story of someone I covered years ago that
• 58:02
  Speaker 10: I had flashes that you might not realize if you're
• 58:05
  Speaker 10: watching the league at work. So before we get to that,
• 58:08
  Speaker 10: Rams being last in the division, I mean, who saw
• 58:10
  Speaker 10: that coming out? So I think that I get it's
• 58:13
  Speaker 10: one week. I get it was in Australia. I still
• 58:16
  Speaker 10: think that you take that and you pair with Miles
• 58:18
  Speaker 10: Garrett going on injured reserve and to get that knee
• 58:20
  Speaker 10: taken care of.
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: And you do have to ask questions.
• 58:23
  Speaker 10: I think there are teams, like I would say Seattle,
• 58:25
  Speaker 10: where one guy goes out or two guys go out
• 58:28
  Speaker 10: and you're not so dependent on those stars. And I
• 58:32
  Speaker 10: think the Rams are a team that really built around
• 58:34
  Speaker 10: a few players. And now one of them is out
• 58:36
  Speaker 10: for four weeks. The second thing I'll give you is
• 58:38
  Speaker 10: Bears offense. I'm not suggesting they're going to have 59
• 58:40
  Speaker 10: points every week, but I do think that when I
• 58:43
  Speaker 10: look at the Bengals defense, or by the way, boy,
• 58:45
  Speaker 10: I'm off a great week. I think that the Bengals
• 58:48
  Speaker 10: are probably not going to be as high flying video
• 58:51
  Speaker 10: game this year because their defense is going to take
• 58:53
  Speaker 10: some of the pressure off the offense. But Chicago is
• 58:55
  Speaker 10: the exact opposite. I visited 19 teams between training camp
• 58:58
  Speaker 10: and OTAs. No teams offense and defense were as far
• 59:01
  Speaker 10: apart on the day that I was there, which snapshot, obviously,
• 59:04
  Speaker 10: it's not every day of camp.
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: As the Chicago Bears.
• 59:07
  Speaker 10: And so while I don't think Chicago is going to
• 59:09
  Speaker 10: keep having $ 59 points every week, their offense, both because
• 59:12
  Speaker 10: they're able to do it and because they're going to
• 59:14
  Speaker 10: need to do it with what their defense can do,
• 59:16
  Speaker 10: will continue to.
• 59:17
  Speaker 4: Have high scoring outputs. And then my last random factoid
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: for you. The New York Jets, you.
• 59:22
  Speaker 10: Might have heard, got a win this week against the
• 59:24
  Speaker 10: Tennessee Titans. My favorite play from that game is on
• 59:28
  Speaker 10: special teams, a fumble recovery by their cornerback, Quantez Stiggers,
• 59:32
  Speaker 10: who I wrote a feature on a couple of years
• 59:33
  Speaker 10: ago because Quantez... is the fascinating NFL player who never
• 59:37
  Speaker 10: played one snap of college football. He instead, because of
• 59:40
  Speaker 10: a confluence of circumstances, including COVID and losing his father, left.
• 59:45
  Speaker 4: Campus shortly after, ends up in an arena football league.
• 59:48
  Speaker 10: And then the Canadian Football League had such a great
• 59:50
  Speaker 10: year in the Canadian Football League that the Jets drafted
• 59:53
  Speaker 10: him on the third day.
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: And now he's making a fumble recovery.
• 59:57
  Speaker 10: On special teams in the Jets' first win. So I
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 10: always love those stories, and we might not see them
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 10: when we're looking, but shout out to him.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: Well, how did you come across that story? Just knowing
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: his background.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 10: When they drafted him, just the idea of like, this
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 10: guy's never played college football. And the crazier part of
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 10: that is when I was right, he was working at
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 10: like a car wash station and, Days before the draft still,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 10: because he's like, I got to make money until I
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 10: make it to the NFL. If I make it to
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 10: the NFL, it's just so rare that we see someone
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 10: who like legitimately was trying to support his family by
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 10: working at a high powered car wash in the days
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 10: before he got drafted because he didn't have that college career.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 10: I mean, even before NIL money, but even now, especially
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 10: now with it. So he's got a super unusual path
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 10: to the NFL. And when I write a story like that,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 10: even if you don't root for the team to win,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 10: you root for that player to succeed.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 4: And you kind of wonder, are they going to be
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: able to make it?
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 10: And I think this is year three for him in
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 10: the NFL.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: And what do you know?
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: He is creating a takeaway for his team.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: Look at that. That's a great story. You were all
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: over the Saints linebackers. And I was a superstar with
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: the Eagles. It was a special teams player.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: Yes. I'm kind of crying back here, man. This is
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: really good.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: 19 camps. Tell us about that. I saw you at
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: the tail end of that. But how long did you
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: go without seeing your husband? Did you get a break?
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: 19 camps in 20 days? What were you doing for August?
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 10: Yeah, so three OTAs, 16 training camps. And 13 of
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 10: those training camp stops on one straight trip. So I
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 10: did not see my husband for 23 days. Shout out
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 10: to Simeon for being supportive of it. But it was
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 10: kind of wild. I did the Midwest, and you kind
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 10: of see how many you can get in. So flew
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 10: to Minnesota, drove from Minnesota to Green Bay to Chicago
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 10: to Cincinnati.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: The Steelers and the Trove to Cleveland. I think I
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: got everyone there.
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  Speaker 10: Um, can't remember if I said it in Indianapolis and
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 10: then flew out to California for Rams, Chargers, Cowboys up
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  Speaker 10: to you guys in Seattle. Then the Niners and the
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 10: Broncos came back home to New York and then train and, and, uh,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 10: rented car for the Ravens commanders and Eagles.
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  Speaker 2: And then flew back out to Seattle for the first
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  Speaker 2: NFL game.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so then Seattle and then Kansas City. So I
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 4: think I'm home for a bit now.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of wild.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: Last night my husband's like, what are you doing here?
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 4: I'm like, that's a fair question.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: At least you do the way back. So where are
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: you this weekend? You're home watching all the games. What
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: are you looking for in week two?
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 10: This weekend I am home, and I am very curious
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 10: how Drake May rallies back from that week one performance.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: He's got the Pittsburgh Steelers up.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 10: They're coming off a win, and TJ Watt's coming off
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 10: a pick six line of scrimmage interception.
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  Speaker 4: So I'll be interested in that.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 10: I think we're all a little bit curious for better
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 10: and for worse on Cleveland's. uh not only is Deshaun
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 10: Watson's last game to play before the Browns go back
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 10: home and I think it will be a bit of
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 10: a referendum game and they'll also be playing against the
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 10: Buccaneers and Baker Mayfield so that will look even more
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 10: interesting Cowboys defense of course um and I want to
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 10: see hey Caleb Williams against Brian Flores and the Minnesota
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 10: Vikings what's Caleb going to do that it's probably not
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 10: going to be 59 points but how good does.
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  Speaker 2: It look Joey appreciate you it's great to have you
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  Speaker 2: back I'm glad we can do this every week and
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: We'll get you some pizza or something out of it.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: But thanks a lot. Enjoy home for a while.
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  Speaker 4: Greg, Jessamyn, great to be on with you. I'll talk
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 4: to you next week.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: Jory Epstein, the senior NFL writer for Yahoo Sports. I
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: saw her at training camp last month, and then I
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: saw her last week at the Seahawks-Patriots game. She's around
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: the NFL. She does a weekly podcast for Yahoo Sports.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: You can find her at yahoosports.com. And her weekly story
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: is about whatever. She does a lot of Jets-Giants because
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: she's in– New York says she goes to a lot
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: of home games and picks off teams that are coming
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: through New York as well, but she travels quite a bit.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 4: She's a New York gal.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: I like her. Yes, she is.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: I know she's from the Texas area, but I know
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: that she's also a New York-based person.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: Yes, she's lived in New York now for a while.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: She used to be a Dallas Cowboys beat writer back
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: in the day and then covered the Cowboys for Yahoo
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: for back at the time, too. I've seen her around
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: at Combines and Super Bowls, and I've asked her, hey,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: why don't you come on our show? kind enough to
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: join us again for this season. So she'll be on
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: every Tuesday. Normally she'll be on Tuesdays. We had her
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: on Wednesday this week because she was traveling back from
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: Kansas City to Manhattan.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: And you were traveling back from Hawaii.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: I was traveling back from Honolulu last night, so that's
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: why we did it today. But normally Jory will be
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: on at 11 o'clock every Tuesday to recap what she
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: saw on the previous weekend in the NFL and then
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: looking ahead to the coming week. Thanks to Jory Epstein.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: You'll hear from her every week in our NFL. We
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: also have Omar excuse me, for Farhan Lalji of TSN Canada,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: we expect to have weekly guests on NFL coverage on
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: Thursdays or Fridays during the week is probably going to
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: be the days that we target for him. 49451, the
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• 1:04:57
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• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: And then at 1135, I'm talking hyper-local factor fictions. pick
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  Speaker 3: Keep on teasing, Greg.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: Keep on teasing. I think you know where I might
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: be headed on that one. I have an idea. All
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: that's coming up next on 93.3 KJRFM. And let me
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: go manage from spreadsheets. Would he? I'm telling you... There
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: ain't going to be no Joe Maddens walking in here
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: under the current regime and playing the ball the way
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: they want to be playing. That ain't happening. No way.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: Two things. 253 says, the manners are a joke. They
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: need sweeping changes to players, coaches, and management. Yes, even Jerry.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: And two, Seattle needs to tell Adam Silver and the
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: NBA to flip off. He didn't say flip or she
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: didn't say flip. I am done caring about the NBA
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: and whether or not the Sonics come back. The NBA
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: doesn't deserve this fan base. And I get this because
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: we're getting jerked around here.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, for what, 20 years?
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: 20 years now. And 18 years since they left in 2008.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: And they shouldn't have left in the first place. It
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: was part of David Stern's FU to the politicians in
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: Seattle who didn't want to hand him over a brand
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: new arena. And he went down to Olympia and Frank
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: Chop and the legislators told him to go pound sand.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: And he said, oh, okay, I'll fix you up. And
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: he arranged this sale to Clay Bennett and the Carpetbaggers
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: of Oklahoma. And that's how we don't have a team.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: Became personal for the commissioner. Now you have Adam Silver.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: Which is just so petty.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 9: It is.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: It's so petty. And here we are, 18 years later,
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: trying to get a team back. And now we're getting told, well,
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: maybe the end of the year. First of all, the
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: other news I got out of yesterday from Adam Silver
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: in the comments about expansion is that second option is
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: up in Marysville or Stanwood or wherever the hell that
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: second arena would be, is not an option to the NBA.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: It's one roof sports and entertainments, NBA ready. He made
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: a point of saying that building is NBA ready.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: Todd Lightwicky also specifically built it that way.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: Correct. The Oakville group, Todd Lightwicky's brother, they made it
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: to NBA specs. They made it so that they could
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: turn key an NBA franchise right into there. Extra locker rooms,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: sight lines, suites, the whole nine. All the things a
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: key arena didn't have back in the day.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: The only thing that was the same is the roof.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: Correct. And that's only because they had to do it
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: because it's a National Historic Site. And you're not allowed
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: to touch that roof because it's got National Register Protection
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: as a National Historic Site from the World's Fair back
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: in 1962. That's the reason that they had to lift
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: the entire roof and build the arena underneath it.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: And they did it.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: And they did it. And they built it to a
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: billion-dollar palace that the NBA says we can play tomorrow.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: But now we've got to wait for Las Vegas to
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: get its act together and to get an arena and
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: to get owners.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: Does Vegas ever get their act together? I mean, I've
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: been there a couple times, and I've lost years of
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• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: I think this is your pick because I had to
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: dig through the coffers to find this one, Greg.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: You did. I did.
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  Speaker 3: So you tell us what it is. This is the
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• 1:09:09
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  Speaker 2: so we play in the Eastern Washington Eagles fight song. Why?
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: Because the Eagles are coming across the pass. They're playing
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: on Saturday at Montlake. They're an FCS school, so Vegas
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: is saying, well, Big Ten team against an FCS team
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: that's lost two of its first three games. Let's set
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: the point spread at 43 points.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: That's a ridiculous spread.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: Can Washington even score 43 points? I heard Cam Cleland
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: on my way in. The problems they had barely beating
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: Utah State. The problem they have with a very young
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: offensive line. A brand new center. A true freshman left tackle.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: DeMond Williams being their leading rusher and throwing the ball
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: 41 times. How they need to fix that. There's some
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: stuff going on in Montlake on their offense right now.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: And Vegas is giving 43 points. I'm not even sure
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: the Huskies can score 43 on anybody, including Eastern Washington.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: The Eags, meanwhile, the Fighting Cooper Cubs, they're 1-2. I
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: love that.
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  Speaker 3: You call them that. He smoked us when he was there.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: They smoked a lot of people with Cooper Cubs. The
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  Speaker 2: Walter Payton Award winner. They lost at Northern Arizona on
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: the opening game. They're nationally ranked Northern Arizona in FCS
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: after leading 24-3. The Eagles blew a 24-3 lead at
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: Northern Arizona and lost 34-27. In week two, they beat
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: Northern Iowa, a perennial, usually a playoff team or on
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: the fringe of a playoff team in FCS. They beat
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: them by 10. And then last week, they got bodied
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: at South Dakota. They went up to Vermilion and the
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: Dakota Dome and got beat 41-23 and allowed 517 yards.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: But still, can this Husky team even score 43 points
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: let alone beat Eastern Washington by 43? I say no.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: I say give me 43 points because why not? How
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: often do you get 43 points? Give me Eastern plus
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: 43 on Saturday at Husky Stadium against Washington. If you
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: agree with me, you think the Eags can cover 43 points,
• 1:12:01
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• 1:12:07
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• 1:12:10
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• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: and they're going to boat race the Eagles by more
• 1:12:15
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• 1:12:19
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  Speaker 3: Spread that big.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: That's what I usually look at. I only do NFL.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: I don't do college. But when I... When I see
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: a spread like that, I'm sorry. There's no way that's
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 3: going to happen.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: I can't think so.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: It's just not going to.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: I can't think so. I mean, it looks like on
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: paper they just said, oh, Big Ten team against an
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: FCS team, right? Oh, and by the way, the FCS
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: team is 1-2, so let's put it 43.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: I know, but Vegas knows weird things.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they do. They do. Makes me very uncomfortable. Like
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: the Texas-Ohio State game. Ohio State was a one-and-a-half point underdog.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: They lost by one. How freaky was that after beating 23-3?
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: By the way, your Cougs are a 37.5 point favorite
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: at home against Duquesne.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: Well, Duquesne has not had the very fortuitous season so far.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: This is a get-right game for us for sure. And
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: the start to three straight home games. So they need
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: that very much.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: I saw the Cougs are giving. If you have a
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: Toyota and you bring the keys to the gate at
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: Martin Stadium on Saturday, you get in free. It's a
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  Speaker 2: Toyota promotion.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: I have a Toyota, but I get in free because
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: I'm working. I get paid to be there.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: If you want to go in free to the game
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: in Pullman on Saturday and you have a Toyota, just
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: take your keys to the ticket office and you get
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  Speaker 2: free tickets.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: I did not know that.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: I saw that last night on my flight home. I
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: was doing research for a Seahawks story and I came
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: across that. I was like, what? All you need are
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: keys to a Toyota and you get in free. So
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: there you go. Duquesne and Washington State. That's a 1230
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: game The Huskies are hosting Eastern Washington at Husky Stadium
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: in Montlake at 4.15. That's when our kickoff will be
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: right here with Jessamyn. With Jessamyn. No, sorry. You're being poor.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 3: No, I'm in my darkness retreat back here by myself.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: At least Woodward will have a call with Cam Cleland
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: and Dave Softy-Moller at 4.15. Washington, Eastern Washington. You have
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: 12 minutes now to text them. Now I'm on more
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: like 10 minutes because I've been yapping. So 49451. Eastern
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  Speaker 2: Washington plus 43 points against Washington. If you agree, text
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• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: Up next, Ian Furness from the Virginia Mason Athletic Center
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: right out here at Seahawks headquarters on 93.3 KJRFF. Hi,
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: welcome back. Greg Bell now joined by Ian Furness. I'm
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: here at Seahawks headquarters right up the road from Maple Valley. Actually,
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: it's not quite up the road, is it?
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  Speaker 9: It's a little bit up.
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  Speaker 5: I'm telling you right now, it's so much better than
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 5: having to go to the studio today and going to Seattle.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 9: It's about a 25-minute drive.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: It took me 45 minutes to get out of the
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: U District today.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 9: Well, because there was that crash on I-5, right? Yeah,
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 9: there was a truck.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they blocked everything southbound I-5 during rush hour.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 9: That seems less than optimal. that's uh that's not.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: Good yeah that's not good at all yeah that's yeah
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: it was suboptimal.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah no when when they said hey can you uh
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 5: get down to vmac bring greg some equipment and just
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 5: do the show there because we're gonna get riley mills
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 5: on at noon okay i'm in and in and in
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 5: and i don't.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 9: Have to drive to seattle 100.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 5: Let's go here we are right we're not sweating outside.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: Exactly like training camp riley mills had a prominent role
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: i thought in the defensive line i did too and
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: he was in like First quarter, first drive rotation.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 5: You know, he's an interesting guy because on draft day,
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 5: day three of draft day two years ago, 2025, when
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 5: we're all sitting upstairs here at the Virginia Mason Athletic
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 5: Center and they draft the guy out of Notre Dame,
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 5: nose tackle, defensive tackle, Riley Mills from Notre Dame.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 9: We're like, yeah, we remember that guy. Oh, he got hurt,
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 9: didn't he? Yeah, he got hurt.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 5: And I remember how they were just– and they do
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 5: this with a lot of guys, some more than others,
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 5: but speaking in glowing terms about Riley Mills and how, oh,
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 5: he would have been– you know, a day one, day
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 5: two pick, blah, blah, blah, probably a day two pick,
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 5: and we're like, okay.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 9: And I think, okay, pump his tires, that's great.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 5: But I think what we saw, you know, in limited
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 5: appearances at the end of the regular season and then
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 5: certainly in the Super Bowl and then in training camp
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  Speaker 5: and then in week one, there's no doubt this guy
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 5: would have– they got a steal with him where they
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 5: got him.
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  Speaker 2: He's like a five or six defensive lineman for them
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: right now.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and just powerful defensively. So, yeah, I'm excited to
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 5: talk to him coming up. And, you know, we saw
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 5: him in hard knocks with the little test of strength.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 9: Was that Cable Dew? I think it was Cable Dew, right?
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was Cable Dew.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 9: Or was it Richmond?
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: It might have been Mason Richmond. It might have been Richmond, yeah.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: With the sledgehammer.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: The players, by the way, think that's a bad idea.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: They don't want that to be a– a couple I've
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: talked to said they don't want them to become a president. No.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 9: No.
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  Speaker 2: They'd rather not.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So my fact or fiction, I just picked Eastern Washington
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  Speaker 2: plus 43 against the Huskies.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 9: Whoa.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: Can the Huskies score 43 points? That's what I'm wondering.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 5: Boy, they're going to– you know what's an interesting– The
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 5: Eags aren't terrible. There's three schools locally in the Northwest
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 5: that are playing FCS opponents that have a chance.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 9: To really roll up scores.
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  Speaker 2: Oregon, Portland State.
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  Speaker 9: Oregon, Portland State Friday. Eastern and Washington on Saturday. Wazoo's
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 9: got Duquesne.
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  Speaker 2: That's right.
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  Speaker 5: And all three of those offenses, for very different reasons,
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 5: our team obviously at the bottom of what people care about,
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 5: but all three offenses have been less than good so far.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 5: And I think in the case of Oregon, they're going
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 5: to get zero tests from Portland State.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 7: But.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 5: And that's, by the way, like 57 points. Yeah, I
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 5: looked at that. Why is it even on the board?
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 5: Eastern's going to play hard. You never know with their
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 5: best team what they've got, but they'll play hard.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: They got smacked around pretty good by South Dakota, 41-23,
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: and I looked at the stats and.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 9: 517 yards allowed.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 5: And Jed, anytime Jed has an opportunity to run up
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 5: a score, especially against anybody in the Northwest, he does.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: But let's face it, they want to get right before
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: the Big Ten. Minnesota comes in here.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 9: Yeah, and I think.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: They want to feel right.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 9: Yeah, they've got issues on the offensive line.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: They do.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 5: You know, two freshmen starting a left tackle. Yeah, I
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 5: find that one to be an interesting one. Like, today's
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 5: power four, unless your name's Caden Proctor or something, I
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 5: know they think really highly of the kid. Are you
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 5: telling me that's your best option as a power four
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 5: Big Ten team? Left tackle, 18 years old. Sometimes you're
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 5: not the smartest guy.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: In the room. What? Wait a minute. Actually, Greg, that's
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: the point.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 9: They bought a player.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: They did.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 9: And now you've got to play the player.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: That's true.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 5: I mean, the whole Protect College Sports Act thing, which
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 5: everybody's freaked out about.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: Play the player so he doesn't leave after this when
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: he doesn't play.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 9: Play him Don't let him leave. Make him feel like
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 9: he's part of the program right from the start. And,
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 9: you know, but I don't know. This world we're living
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 9: in is something else right now.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: By the way, the Kraken, the training camp has started,
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: hasn't it? Tomorrow. Tomorrow. Tomorrow's day one.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 5: Media day was yesterday. Well, internal media day was yesterday.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 5: First day of camp is tomorrow. They're doing medicals and
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 5: stuff today. Testing and all that today. We'll be out
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 5: there tomorrow doing the show at the Kraken Community Iceplex.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 9: They announced their new captains and alternate captains today, so.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 9: which is good.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 5: But, yeah, we'll be out there tomorrow. So a little
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 5: Seahawks day, hockey tomorrow, college football sprinkled in as well.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: So besides Riley Mills, what do you got on the show?
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 5: Speaking of protect college sports, we're going to check in
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 5: with Stuart Mandel at 120 today. But we'll mostly talk
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 5: college football, like mostly get into Oregon struggles. I'm fascinated
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 5: by what that Texas-Ohio State game meant. The other stuff,
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 5: I'm done with that, Arch Manning and Holly Roe and
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 5: all that stuff. So we'll move on from that and
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 5: talk actual football on the field. And, man, what a
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 5: game this weekend. LSU going to Mississippi.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: So comparable. Man.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 9: I mean, it is.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 5: We'll get into that with him. I think I'm going
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 5: to make that my factor fiction pick.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: That would be a pretty high-profile one.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 5: Trinidad Chambliss might be the best quarterback in the country.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 5: And the emotions in that building are going to be
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 5: something else. But I think LSU is a true national
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 5: title contender, and a lot of his best players are
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 5: guys who have played at Ole Miss.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 9: I mean, you won't find a more emotional game this year.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: Back in Ohio, they're talking about Ryan Day's decision to
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: try to play defense against Texas at the end instead
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: of letting him score and get the ball back with
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: a minute and a half left. I knew what he
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: was doing. I mean, they had a 23-3 lead on
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: that team. So I think I agree with what he
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: did there. Plus, as a competitor, you want to give
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: your guys a chance to win the game.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 5: I always hate this word that's used all the time,
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 5: the analytics word.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 9: The biggest offender is probably Troy Aker. Analytics say go
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 9: for it here.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: What analytics?
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 9: You mean just.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: Just the catch-all? Common sense? Like, yeah. What are you
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: talking about?
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 5: But yeah, no, there's... This is kind of the last
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 5: weekend of only one or two really great games because
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 5: then we get to conference play after this weekend. But LSU,
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 5: we'll get that with Stu. And then 1 o'clock, John Harlow,
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 5: Washington State Athletic.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: Oh, good.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 9: I'm going to sit down with him. Honestly, one of the...
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 9: Big thing I want to ask him, and so this
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 9: is kind of... Oh, you're talking too much Cougars.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 3: No, no.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 5: The one thing I want to get to right off
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 5: the get-go, the whole Protect College Sports Act, what is it? Honestly,
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 5: I think there's a lot because there's just a lot
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 5: to it. And so I'm going to have him break
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 5: it down because most schools are for it, whether Power 4.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 9: Or Group of Six.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 5: The only people who seem to be against it are
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 5: the NAACP and player agents right now.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 9: So we'll get into that a little bit.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: That's Ian Furness here from Seahawks headquarters. I'm heading into
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: the room next door to listen to Mike McDonald evade questions.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 9: We'll be monitoring that, too, by the way.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: I'll be hearing some Donald questions getting evaded by the
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: head coach. Ian's up next from 12 until 3. Justin
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: McIntyre and I will be back at it tomorrow. I'll
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: be doing it right here from Seahawks on 93.3 KJRFM.