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Comic Book Legend Todd McFarlane: Kaprizov's new contract, Rangers' new captain and reviewing AV's book. · NHL Unscripted with Virk and Demers

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  Speaker 1: NHL Unscripted is a production of the NHL and iHeart podcasts.
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  Speaker 1: Coming Up. It's episode number forty seven of NHL Unscripted.
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  Speaker 1: Cinephile in sixty on the new horror film Weapons plus
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  Speaker 1: the Greatest Living Director Alive Martin Scorsese robbed of an
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  Speaker 1: Emmy Award. Our special guest today is Todd McFarland on
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  Speaker 1: the origins of Spawn and Venom and the bizarre story
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  Speaker 1: of buying Mark McGuire's seventieth home run ball via auction,
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  Speaker 1: plus The Dark Knight The Blackhawks lock up their masked
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  Speaker 1: man I get As episode of forty seven. Great to
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  Speaker 1: have you with us. Thank you everybody who's been supporting
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  Speaker 1: my books. In a File, Interviews, Essays and Tails from
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  Speaker 1: the Red Carpet. JD has bought his copy and tell
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  Speaker 1: you bought your copy about what thirty forty pages in
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  Speaker 1: what are you same?
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  Speaker 2: You guys are bought fifty something pages in.
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  Speaker 1: JD Early Impressions?
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  Speaker 3: Go ahead? Uh?
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  Speaker 4: No, I Like my question is just like, did you
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  Speaker 4: have to pay for all those quotes from the actors
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  Speaker 4: or No?
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell the whole story.
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  Speaker 4: No, I'm just like, because like I looked at that
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  Speaker 4: page and was very very and I hate to say
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  Speaker 4: this three times, very impressed. I wish it the comments
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  Speaker 4: from everybody, and I've really enjoyed the book so far.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, buddy.
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  Speaker 3: JK.
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  Speaker 1: Simmons a great guy. Visit MLB network a few months ago.
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  Speaker 1: I had his number of text and I missed him
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  Speaker 1: that day, but I was like, hey, man, I would
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  Speaker 1: love it if you could do a blurb for the book.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, of course, send it to me right now.
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  Speaker 1: He sent me as the email. He's like this okay.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, whatever you want. And he has been
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  Speaker 1: unbelievable supporter. I actually texted him the other Day's a
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  Speaker 1: Hugese Tigers fans, so he's he is locked inner Detroit
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  Speaker 1: Tiger's right now leading the central. I can't thank him enough.
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  Speaker 1: Miles Teller fella Eagles fan, so I texted him after
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles game. He was like yeah, happy to help.
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  Speaker 1: And Josh Tamel a gigantic Vikings guy. He was probably
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  Speaker 1: the nicest one. I was at Humdingers with my kids,
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  Speaker 1: which is a bowling alley, and a litter of the
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  Speaker 1: phone call comes in Josh Toamel, I have to leave
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  Speaker 1: my children, like got an actual movie star is calling
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  Speaker 1: me JD. What's up. He's like, hey man, he goes, sorry,
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  Speaker 1: I meant to say the blower. He's like, what do
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  Speaker 1: you need from me? He's He's like, it's a sports
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  Speaker 1: book movie Bay in the movie book. He's like, remember
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  Speaker 1: my interview. He's like, Okay, I'm going to send you
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  Speaker 1: a couple options. You tell me what works for you. Like,
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  Speaker 1: these guys are so nice, so I can't think specifically.
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  Speaker 5: J K.
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  Speaker 1: Simmons. Josh Ta Melbo was John rt is a great guys?
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  Speaker 1: Well t is from Carly? Is why I love John?
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  Speaker 3: Go ahead? Question?
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  Speaker 4: Uh if any of them want need actresses as well? Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: my wife is ready to work auditioned self tape.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So you know all these big budding starts, let's produce something.
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  Speaker 3: Let's get something out there. JK. Simmons.
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  Speaker 1: If you're interested in Jillian Miller, let's get this going.
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  Speaker 1: Tal what do you think it's so far? De Niro
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  Speaker 1: k Comedy, Let's go.
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  Speaker 3: I loved that. I told you before. I love that.
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  Speaker 6: You asked de Niro about King of Comedy, which is
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  Speaker 6: such an underrated film for Scorsese and de Niro, and
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  Speaker 6: I thought it was so cool. Like I again, I
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  Speaker 6: wasn't sure exactly what the book was. I thought maybe
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  Speaker 6: it would just be transcripts of your interviews from the
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  Speaker 6: Cinophile podcast. But you walk us through the whole like
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  Speaker 6: step by step of getting of prepping to interview de Niro,
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  Speaker 6: which I'd be freaking out if I was interviewing him
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  Speaker 6: one on one.
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  Speaker 2: I know what a huge.
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  Speaker 6: Fan of his you are, And so just like the
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  Speaker 6: whole process of like mentally prepping to sit with him,
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  Speaker 6: and the whole step by step of his response and
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  Speaker 6: your thoughts and going through your mind when you see
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  Speaker 6: him walk into the room and all that.
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  Speaker 2: That was pretty cool. That was a great place to start.
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  Speaker 6: And just all the little stories and anecdotes involving you know,
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  Speaker 6: really many of the greatest actors of our time.
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  Speaker 2: It's pretty cool. I'm I'm looking forward to getting into
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  Speaker 2: it a lot more.
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  Speaker 1: Good sales so the book boys appreciate it. So up
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  Speaker 1: on once again, wherever you get your book sold, We'll
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  Speaker 1: talk here of comedy another time. I just love the
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  Speaker 1: fact that I mean that Secene where Jerry Lewis and Danio
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  Speaker 1: said that was based on true experience that you know,
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  Speaker 1: Jerry Lewis's on the phone. This one was like called
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  Speaker 1: my kekeonograph is a just one second and then he
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  Speaker 1: has to leave and she's like, I hope you get cancer.
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  Speaker 1: I hope you just turned to them like a dime.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, that's a true story. Jerry
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  Speaker 1: told us this story. Marty's like, that's getting in the movie.
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  Speaker 1: That is what people are like, crazed fans. I love
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  Speaker 1: you and then they hate you. All right, let's get
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  Speaker 1: to hockey. Carell Capriso. Last week we discussed at length
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  Speaker 1: JD the ongoing Connor McDavid contract saga. This week it's
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  Speaker 1: Carill the thrill do for a stack. Frank starvled reporting
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  Speaker 1: he turned down eight years, one hundred and twenty eight
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  Speaker 1: million dollar contract extension. The average AAV would have been
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  Speaker 1: the highest in the league. It's sixteen million dollars. You
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  Speaker 1: had mentioned last week. I said, tell hey, if McDavid
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  Speaker 1: drags us out, obviously there's other guys in play, Capristoff
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  Speaker 1: one of them. Where do we go from here when
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  Speaker 1: a guy turns down sixteen million dollars this season?
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  Speaker 4: Well breaking news. I heard from an inside source that
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  Speaker 4: that is completely fabricated or not true.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, yeah, so good.
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  Speaker 4: I had I asked a couple of people I know
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  Speaker 4: around and I said, that can't. I'm like, there's no
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  Speaker 4: possible way that Carell would turn that down unless he truly,
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  Speaker 4: if he honestly turned that down, he'd be traded like now,
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  Speaker 4: because a team would have called. They would have had
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  Speaker 4: to get rid of him, because I don't know how
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  Speaker 4: much higher the Minnesota Wild can go, and I if
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  Speaker 4: that is the case. But I just heard that somebody
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  Speaker 4: kind of leaked that out and whether that's a little
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  Speaker 4: but a gamesmanship to kind of ruffle his feathers, or
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  Speaker 4: if it's just somebody that was kind of speaking out
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  Speaker 4: of their ass, but yeah, I've heard from from people
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  Speaker 4: within his camp that it's it's something that he had
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  Speaker 4: no idea that was even something that popped up. So
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  Speaker 4: Billy Garrion came out as well and kind of mentioned it,
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  Speaker 4: and I do believe him. I think that either there
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  Speaker 4: was a leak that happened or somebody misquoted somebody, so
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  Speaker 4: because I just can't, you know, I do expect that
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  Speaker 4: Connor's waiting for these other big names to fall, specifically
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  Speaker 4: Capri so Sof and ikeel I don't see Connor, and
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  Speaker 4: I I don't know why Connor would sign before these guys,
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  Speaker 4: because he is the man, and he is the guy
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  Speaker 4: that is going to set the tone whatever they signed.
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  Speaker 4: So I think it's like a holding pattern, and I
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  Speaker 4: think whenever Carel decides to sign, Connor will sign after.
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  Speaker 4: But but I can't believe for a second, and I
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  Speaker 4: truly don't want to believe that he would turn that
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  Speaker 4: down unless he vehemently hated Minnesota and the city and
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  Speaker 4: the cold weather.
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  Speaker 3: But I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: He's Russian, right, so I mean he understands the winner.
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  Speaker 4: It doesn't bother him that much.
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  Speaker 1: Let's say you're playing in Russia. You know the Russian
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  Speaker 1: mindset a little bit more than most. As you said,
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  Speaker 1: those numbers were eye bopping to me, I'm like, if
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  Speaker 1: that's not good enough to get it done, what more
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  Speaker 1: exactly do you want? So that's interesting, as you said that,
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  Speaker 1: you have a whole lot of rubles, exactly a lot
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  Speaker 1: of borst. Meantime, after just thirty two games, J T.
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  Speaker 1: Miller's second go around with the Rangers already pretty eventful,
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  Speaker 1: the Rangers naming him the twenty ninth captain in franchise history.
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  Speaker 1: The team hasn't had a captain since Jacob Trouper was
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  Speaker 1: traded last year. He was drafted by New York and
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  Speaker 1: twenty eleven, making stops in Tampa and Vancouver, traded back
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  Speaker 1: to the Rangers in January. Truba and Crowder now both
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  Speaker 1: in Anaheim's the three two year olds a captain. My
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  Speaker 1: question to you is, we all are well aware of
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  Speaker 1: the controversy Difficulty had with Eleias Petterson. So when I
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  Speaker 1: think of captains, JT. Miller is exactly the first guy
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  Speaker 1: think of as far as a level headed, harmonious force.
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  Speaker 1: Tell me why, though you think it makes sense he's
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  Speaker 1: the captain of this team.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a bit of a he's a bit of
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  Speaker 4: a loose cannon there so, but I do think they
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  Speaker 4: need some fire. You know, I think they're top guys.
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  Speaker 4: It's a lot of good players, but it's a lot
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  Speaker 4: of guys that you know, Elias Petterson esque, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, Mika's advantage ad and and you know, I
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  Speaker 4: know my other pick would have been Vincent Trocheck, So
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  Speaker 4: I wasn't.
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  Speaker 3: I was.
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  Speaker 4: It was probably a toss up between him or JT. Miller,
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  Speaker 4: And I do believe that.
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  Speaker 3: I like J. T.
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  Speaker 4: Miller as the pick. I think they're really trying to
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  Speaker 4: change their identity and they're gonna have somebody that really
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  Speaker 4: kind of drags him into the fight. And you know,
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  Speaker 4: as much as Vincent Trocheck is a gamer, and you know,
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  Speaker 4: I think there's just another level of edge that JT.
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  Speaker 4: Miller has that that Trocheck doesn't. So I like it.
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  Speaker 4: Those are my two picks. I don't think he could
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  Speaker 4: have gave it to anybody else. You know, I know
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  Speaker 4: there was talks about maybe Shisterkin, but I don't love
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  Speaker 4: the whole goalie play especially, you know, I just don't
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  Speaker 4: think it works.
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  Speaker 3: So J T.
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  Speaker 4: Miller, I think it's he's going to have to emulate
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  Speaker 4: in kind of. I mean, he's gonna echo with that
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  Speaker 4: coach staff wants. They're gonna be hard nosed with some skills,
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  Speaker 4: so and they're really going to have to lean on him.
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  Speaker 4: But you know, I'm not sure what this team's gonna
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  Speaker 4: look like this year. You know, they have some players,
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  Speaker 4: but you know, I expect them to kind of be
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  Speaker 4: scratching and klawing unless you know, this new coaching staff
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  Speaker 4: Sullivan puts puts really something in place. That allows them
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  Speaker 4: to excel and kind of you know, it really highlights
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  Speaker 4: all of their best attributes.
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  Speaker 3: So it's up in the air for Rangers. But I
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  Speaker 3: like this pick. I'm on it. I like it. Good
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  Speaker 3: job JTM Miller the workhorse.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just said a little bit of fire and brimstone.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes it's not bad. If a guy's gonna kick in
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  Speaker 1: the ass, you don't think it. Me and you exactly,
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  Speaker 1: You'll be on me. If I was here early, you
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  Speaker 1: can ask tal I was ready to go today. Tom
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  Speaker 1: McFarlane was locked in. Meantime, Mark Andrey Flurry continues to
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  Speaker 1: extend the farewelter, What is this going on here? Broken Flowers?
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  Speaker 1: The forty year old goaltending legend remaining retired, but he
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  Speaker 1: will suit up for the Penguins in a preseason game
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  Speaker 1: September twenty seventh. How about that for a homecoming for Flower?
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  Speaker 1: When three cups the Penguins, was drafted first overall by
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  Speaker 1: the team in two thousand and three. I've had more
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  Speaker 1: than a few people text me I understand. I thought
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  Speaker 1: he was retired. IM like, he is retired, He's just
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  Speaker 1: gonna play. When he came here for the peng which
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  Speaker 1: is an honorary thing. What do you make with you?
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  Speaker 1: Are you cool this?
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  Speaker 4: Do you think it's a little odd? I mean, whatever
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  Speaker 4: he wants at this point. And if you know you
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  Speaker 4: have a willing participant in a team that wants to
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  Speaker 4: kind of allow you to have this spotlight in this moment,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, more power to you.
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  Speaker 3: I'm kind of like, hey, more of the school.
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  Speaker 4: If you just recede into the darkness and you take
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  Speaker 4: your retirement and you take your walking papers and you get.
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  Speaker 3: The fuck out of there.
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  Speaker 4: But he is such an iconic figure there and I
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  Speaker 4: think it means a lot to him to kind of
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  Speaker 4: finish there. You know, part of me would have liked
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  Speaker 4: because I did love the San Jose Sharks so much
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  Speaker 4: and you know, to have potentially retired as a San
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  Speaker 4: Jose Shark and I know some guys really like that,
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  Speaker 4: So you know, I agree with that. It's a cool
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  Speaker 4: thing to have and a cool moment to have for
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  Speaker 4: your family. I mean, how his groins are gonna feel,
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  Speaker 4: and if he's been skating, I have no idea.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, in this.
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  Speaker 4: Preseason game, you'd hate to see him go in there
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  Speaker 4: and like just tear is growing off the bone and
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  Speaker 4: then he yeah, and then he's on LTI R and
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  Speaker 4: he's got to stay on the team the whole year.
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  Speaker 4: That'd be fantastic. And then he plays in the playoffs
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  Speaker 4: and they wouldn't cup.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Whenever it's a non competitive game, it's always a bit
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  Speaker 1: of a challenge. It reminds me my favorite tennis player
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  Speaker 1: on my favorite athlete. It's a great Roger Federer. When
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  Speaker 1: things were winding down for fed you know, his last
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  Speaker 1: appearance was, I mean his last one with that unfortunate
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  Speaker 1: was terribly you know, six love six love got drilled
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  Speaker 1: in the quarters. But he wanted to go out on
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  Speaker 1: his own terms. So his last appearance actually was in
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  Speaker 1: the Rod Labor Classic. Now Labor is a legend of
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: the game, but it was like an exhibition term in England.
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  Speaker 1: And your point, Federer was forty years old at this point.
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  Speaker 1: He was just like, I just hope I don't hurt myself.
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  Speaker 1: I just I just do want to embarrass myself. I
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  Speaker 1: want to have one last time on the court to
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  Speaker 1: say goodbye. And of course Rafa was his greatest robble.
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  Speaker 1: It was very cool him and Nadal were playing doubles together.
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  Speaker 1: It was a very odd way to say goodbye to
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  Speaker 1: Roger Federer at this random Rod Labor Class exhibition tournament.
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  Speaker 1: But to your point, hey, man, if a guy gets
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  Speaker 1: to go out on his own terms rather than hey,
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  Speaker 1: my last competitive appearance, I got blitzed. Thought, I'm all
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  Speaker 1: for it some with you on fly where it's like
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  Speaker 1: he plays five minutes, he makes two saves, he gets
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  Speaker 1: to where the Penguins jersey again, stick taps all good.
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  Speaker 1: I get it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you you know, it's so hard and there's so
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  Speaker 4: many of us in sports that you don't get to
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  Speaker 4: write your own ending. And having the ability to do so,
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  Speaker 4: I think it's a really big privilege and an honor
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  Speaker 4: to take, and I think you just take it in
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  Speaker 4: you run with it. If they're willing to give it
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  Speaker 4: to you, I'm like, sure, do it. And I'm sure
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  Speaker 4: he'd be fine either way. But I'm sure they approached
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  Speaker 4: him and said, do you want to end it this way?
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  Speaker 4: And he probably had a fun idea to do this.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure he's gonna have a lot of fun out there.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, it's just interesting. If I'm a goalie trying
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  Speaker 4: to make that team, I'm like the fuck.
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  Speaker 3: Man, every game, every a tire else the old bastard.
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  Speaker 3: Just hang them up. Let the kids play.
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: Speak and let the kids playing goalies. The Blackhawks locked
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  Speaker 1: up one of their core pieces and they're rebuild. Goaltender
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  Speaker 1: Spencer Night three years, seventeen point five million dollars. Twenty
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  Speaker 1: four year old drafted by the Panthers in the first
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  Speaker 1: roun of twenty nineteen, was traded to Chicago last season
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  Speaker 1: along with the first round pick and the Seth Jones
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  Speaker 1: deadline deal. We know the black in for their tough season, JD.
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  Speaker 1: There's no question about it. But where do you have
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  Speaker 1: Night as far as being a piece of the movie
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  Speaker 1: for I mean five million dollars a year for this guy.
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  Speaker 3: We're still talking about the Blackhawks.
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  Speaker 1: We could keep it brief.
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  Speaker 4: If I think we've talked about the I think we've
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  Speaker 4: talked about the Black Frank Daser, the Naser laser. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: they're gonna stink this year again, hopefully they're a little
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  Speaker 4: bit better. I mean, Spencer Knight is a goalie that
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  Speaker 4: you know, there's a lot of promise and uh, there
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  Speaker 4: is a lot of high hopes for him, So hopefully
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  Speaker 4: he can. You know, he voiced it last year that
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  Speaker 4: he it's nice to be in a place that wants him,
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  Speaker 4: and Chicago you know, they they they spoke, they paid him.
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  Speaker 3: Now it's going to be up to him.
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  Speaker 4: A twenty four year old goalie that has that size
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  Speaker 4: and that capability to be athletic.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, could be a big piece moving forward. He's
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  Speaker 3: got to figure out his.
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  Speaker 4: Kind of up and down and consistency issues, but yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it's a big piece if he finds his game. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: do I think they're gonna Absolutely. I just don't know
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  Speaker 4: how you find your game when you're giving up fifty
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  Speaker 4: great a scoring chances a game. So we'll see if
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  Speaker 4: they can play some better defense and help them out
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  Speaker 4: a little bit. So, but yeah, I think Chicago will
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  Speaker 4: not have a great season this year. But you know
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  Speaker 4: they're making some important signings.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, good compensation for guy who's about to face a
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  Speaker 1: whole ton of rubber. And one more thought before we
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  Speaker 1: get to our special guest topic, Farwell, And it may
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: have only been the first rookie showcase of the preseason,
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  Speaker 1: but fans of the Bell cent are absolutely buzzing. Saturday night,
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  Speaker 1: I've been Demoedov taking the ice for the Habs against
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  Speaker 1: the Winnipeg Jacks, prospects a Demodov a goal into assist, highlight,
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  Speaker 1: real time goal late in the game. Montreal pulled him
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: from the lineup the next night. But seriously, JD, everyone's
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: so excited after the promise that Montreal made last season,
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: now to have this guy for a full season. You
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: know what it's like in Lebel provals, how excited everyone is.
• 13:48
  Speaker 5: Oh?
• 13:48
  Speaker 4: Just I mean, is there a better place to watch play,
• 13:52
  Speaker 4: you know, a hockey game and be part of an
• 13:55
  Speaker 4: organization twenty thousand for a fucking showcase game of kids
• 13:58
  Speaker 4: making mistakes and turnovers.
• 14:00
  Speaker 3: But to die Demodov's.
• 14:02
  Speaker 4: Point, and to his credit, you know, as a young
• 14:05
  Speaker 4: kid who you know he played in the playoffs, a
• 14:07
  Speaker 4: lot of those guys can rest on their laurels and
• 14:09
  Speaker 4: be like I don't need to be here, Like I'm
• 14:10
  Speaker 4: better than this. He goes out and puts on a
• 14:13
  Speaker 4: show enough so where they pull him out of the
• 14:15
  Speaker 4: next game. That's a good credit to him and a
• 14:17
  Speaker 4: good credit to the organization by being like, listen, you
• 14:20
  Speaker 4: didn't come in here, cocky, You didn't come in here.
• 14:23
  Speaker 4: You came in here, you worked hard, you played, you dominated,
• 14:26
  Speaker 4: you prove that you're deserved to be here. You only
• 14:29
  Speaker 4: get one game, that's fine, And I like that that's
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: a good that's a good show of faith by the
• 14:34
  Speaker 4: organization and also a good show of faith by Demenoff
• 14:36
  Speaker 4: that like he wants to work. And I think this
• 14:39
  Speaker 4: kid's different and I think he he really wants to
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: be there and he's gonna will himself onto this roster
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: and be a really a focal point of this offense.
• 14:47
  Speaker 4: So you know, if I'm this Montreal Montreal Canadians organization,
• 14:52
  Speaker 4: I'm really happy about that. And you know, I think
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: oftentimes you see these organizations like kind of grind the
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: young kids even though they earned it. It's like, hey, listen,
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: you earned it. We gave you a little bit of rope.
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: You didn't hang yourself. You worked hard, you worked your
• 15:06
  Speaker 4: ass off, you had a great game. Okay, no need
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: to play. We'll see a training camp. And I think
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: that's a good show of good faith by both sides.
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: Tell also Mnchrell, guy, you'll be back home in ten days.
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: So he'll be buzzing with all the demodop fever. Right.
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: The Demi God, the Demi God is ready to go.
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: He's ready to go.
• 15:24
  Speaker 6: You know, it's it's been fun to see what he's
• 15:26
  Speaker 6: been doing already. He spent the whole summer in Montreal,
• 15:29
  Speaker 6: which the local media absolutely love that he's basically been
• 15:32
  Speaker 6: training in the city all summer, and yeah, just you know,
• 15:35
  Speaker 6: it's been interesting because the discussion has been about nice.
• 15:39
  Speaker 6: The whole discussion has been about who's gonna be a
• 15:41
  Speaker 6: center because they're not very deep at center. And to
• 15:44
  Speaker 6: their credit that this coaching staff in the front of
• 15:47
  Speaker 6: office that both kind of made the point that this
• 15:48
  Speaker 6: guy has the potential to kind of be like a
• 15:51
  Speaker 6: Caprice off and that he can drive a line from
• 15:54
  Speaker 6: the wing. He doesn't need to drive the line necessarily
• 15:57
  Speaker 6: from center.
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: So, yeah, it's gonna be fun.
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to it. It's gonna be a lot
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: of offense.
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: Offense goes through him.
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: I know Kapen and is also a lot of people
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: who have been talking about him, And if Kirby Duck
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: can stay healthy, that's definitely an option. So you know,
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: they're gonna have to find a center for him, have
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: a couple of trade pieces. Some young kids, do they
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: really make a splash at the deadline they think they might,
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: But yeah, he is the possibility to be the Koucherov
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: Caprice sof not. I don't think he's to that ilk
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: and that skill set, but he has the ability to
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: drive a line for sure.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: I'd be amazing to think, well the kind of promise
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: potentially has for this Montreal Canadians team. Again, we'll talk
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: more hockey in the days and weeks ahead, but coming
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: up next Todd McFarlane, the creator of Spawn, co creator
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: of Venom. He'll tell us but John Leguizamo's fat suit
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: and Spawn, why speed kills in baseball? And I his
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: daughter Joe Gary Bebben absolutely crazing a tete a tet
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: that's coming up next after this on NHL un Scripted.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: Our next guest is a legendary artist, writer, comic book creator,
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: an entrepreneur. He gained plenty of attention when he began
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: working as an artist on The Amazing Spider Man, but
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: is perhaps best known as the creator of the historic
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: Spawn series. He's also along with a passionate sports fan
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: and memorabilia collector who also's co owner of the Edmonton Oilers.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: A big thrill to welcome in, Todd McFarland. Todd, great
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: to see you, Thanks for doing.
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: This good thanks for having me, I can I throw
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: in a little bit, usually the easy ice breakers. I
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: also co created Venom, the Spider Man's character show. Usually
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: people I go, oh, I went to that movie.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, I read that comic book. Yeah, exactly. My kids
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: are huge fans of Venom. We want to get into
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: all the comics and all that. But I want to
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: ask you, first time out of the gate, which passion
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: came first for I know you played college baseball, but
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: what was a bigger passion for you? Comics or sports?
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: Sports. I kind of broke into comic books pretty late,
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: started collecting late. But I have a brother year younger brother,
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: you're old, and so we were constantly if you guys
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: got siblings, you know how that goes, right, Everything everything
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: is a game. So uh yeah, by the time I
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: started collecting comic books, my competitive nature was well honed,
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: was well honed.
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: And you know, for you, what was the sport growing up?
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: And and I know you had a little call a
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: little for right into college baseball, So talk about just
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: your your sport career. And and you know when you
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: really decided to kind of fully shift.
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: That's when when the scouts and everybody else said you're
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: not good enough. We all have the dream. I still
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: maybe until a couple of years ago, still go, man,
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: I have a chance. I still play. As matter of fact,
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: I had two for two with a single double four
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: RBIs the other day with the thirty beautiful I played
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: against the thirty year old. So anyways, I went to Yeah,
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: I mean, I grew up in California, so by the
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: time we get I'm Canadian. And by the time I
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: went back to Canada, it was sort of too late
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: because you know, by the time I moved back there
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: at fourteen, they said, hey, you can play hockey. You're fourteen,
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: which means at best you're going to be able to
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: grab and carry the hockey bag. Right maybe at best
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: you can be the equipment kid because all the other
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: kids have been playing for ten years. Or since you're
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: coming from a summer place, you could be one of
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: the best baseball, basketball, football players we have. Right when
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: you're fourteen. Those are easy choices, right, like, oh, I
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: want to be a dufist or I want to be
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: a star. So I stuck to those sports, played all
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: of them, minus hockey, obviously, much to the chagrin of
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: my dad, who played all the way up till he
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: was eighty one, and I went down when I I mean,
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: they don't have organized baseball in high school in Canada,
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: so to play, you know, you played in some of
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: the leagues, but if you wanted to go anywhere post
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: high school, you have to go the border. I did.
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: Went to a small school outside of Spokane, Washington. They
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: had just the year before amalgamate it with the Pac ten,
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: so it was it was the Pac ten. My first
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: year I went to JC, couldn't crack the lineup. I
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: was a center fielder. The coach, from my perspective, had
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: given a scholarship to the center fielder ahead of me.
• 20:30
  Speaker 5: I thought I was better, but I was never going
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: to get on the field because he was never gonna
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: benches his scholarship kid. So it just drove me more
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: to just go every day. I'm going to show him
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: I'm the better of the two.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: And then at summertime they send everybody to sort of
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: travel teams, and so we went to one up in Canada.
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: I was the token Canadian. Everybody else was from an
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: American school. And somebody from one of the Pack ten
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: school saw me and said, hey, you know, did a
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: trial and they said, we'll give you a three year scholarship.
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: And so I played my three years at Eastern Washington
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: UH out playing, playing center field out out there. So
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: again it's it's these ones that you guys all know, right,
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: the longer you play sports, the more you're gonna come
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: up with good batter and different coaches. You just got
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: to plow through them, right, And so couldn't couldn't play
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: JC junior college, but I could start Pac ten, right,
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: So it's a weird it's a weird one. But I honestly, gentlemen,
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: I had one skill had I had maybe maybe two,
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: but one of them was I was left handed, an
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: advantage and I could run like the win and you
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: know that you can't teach speed, so that allowed me
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: to accomplish a lot of things. But the hitting was okay,
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: the power was okay. The arm borderline puss arm, right,
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: So we're but but but and I went to tryouts
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: and they would always, like before games, the scouts would
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: come and they get you to run like sixty yard
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: dashes forty yard dashes, right, and they would get me
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: to run it over and over because they couldn't believe
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: their thumb, right, they're like, no, I must have pushed
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: it too soon, right, And then they would say, hey,
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: what is your like after a third time, what is
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: your running speed? And I tell them and they would
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: That was the only thing that kept me around because
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: a couple of the scouts said that, they go, Kid,
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: the fastest guy in the majors at that point was
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: a guy named Willy Wilson, and they go, Willy Wilson
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: doesn't run what you run right now, right, So so
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: that kind of kept me around the game. And then
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: after my senior year, I went for a tryout with
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: the Medicine Hat Blue Jays, an affiliate with the Blue Jays,
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: and I got to tell you, gentlemen, I played way
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: over my head that day, right, Like you know when
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: you're you know, when you're playing better than your skill set, right,
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: And the arm was on fire and I was running
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: and I was hitting and I was hitting for power,
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: and I just go, oh man. And they called me
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: into the office and they go, hey, we've got an
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: opening and your Canadian which is even better. Yeah. Yeah,
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: so we you know, you could be a bit of
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: a draw because we just had one of our high
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: draft picks turn us down. They don't want the money.
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: So we offered him like eighty grand and back then
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: that was a lot, and and him and his dad
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: don't want it. They were out of high school so
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: that they could get more going back to college. And
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: so they said, we're going to make a call back
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: to Toronto, come back in the morning. And I went, oh, man,
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: who knows, I might I might be able to baffle
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: them here with one good day. So I went, I
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: went back to the hotel. My dad brought me back
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: the next day, and I could see on the look
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: on their face, and they just went bad news. The
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: kid from Philadelphia and his dad decided eighty grand was okay. Right.
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: So I've said before, you never want to be the
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: twenty sixth man on a twenty five man broster.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: So that was true.
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: And I thought, at that point, gentlemen, my ideal world
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: would be I played minor league baseball at night, and
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: then then I honed my drawing abilities during the day,
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: knowing that being a pro forever was going to be
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: short lived. But given that I didn't get the first part,
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: which was getting to play minor ball, I just go,
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: I guess I'll turn all my attention to trying to
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: get break into comic books.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: So well, it certainly it worked out well. Speaking of
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: the comic books, Spawn is such an incredible creation, so
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: wild the original and so vivid. And I remember the movie.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: I mean John Leguizamo's clown when it imitates Jimmy Stewart,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: he says, every time someone farts, a demon gets his wings,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: and then he farts twice, he goes oops twins like
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: my wife and my sister let to this day, we're
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: always howling about that. Talk to me about leg Gamo
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: and Clown and that entire creation.
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: So yeah, it's interesting because there's there you could argue
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: there's two main characters. There was Clown and then there
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: was Spawn, right, and Spawn was played by an actor,
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: Michael Ji White, and Michael Ji White was built like
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: a Greek god, right. I mean, he was really into
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: health and he did everything whatever else. But he was
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: so health conscious that he didn't even like when they
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: put like makeup on him, and he had to put
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: in eye contacts and stuff, and it sort of bothered him.
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: And I understand because he would he goes. I worked
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: hard to get to this right here, John Legazamo, For
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: those of you that don't know, the actor is not
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: a very big man. He's very slight. He's not tall,
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: and he's not maybe he weighs a buck forty, right,
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: But they had to put him in the fat costume
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: every day, right, the big and I'm telling you, this
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: wasn't like what they do now. It was like this
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: big foam thing. And whenever he wasn't on set, they
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: had this little hole so they had to put a
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: tube in it so they could blow some kind of
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: air in there so they could cool him down. So
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: in between shots you just saw this big, bloated dude
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: in the costume trying to he couldn't even sit up
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: if the costume was so fat. And and and the
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: thing I remember is that not once did he ever
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: complain Wow.
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: He just was like and I he was like, let's
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: just make the best of this. So uh and after
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: you stayed friends with John ever since, so he yeah,
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: he just he he took it, absorbed it and and said,
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: all right, this is the gig, painful as it can
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: be at times when you're in prosthetics. Uh. And he
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: and he rolled with it and had a good time
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: with him.
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: Well, it's just such a great character in such a
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: great world and and you know, speaking on that, building
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: worlds and characters that to me have stood the test
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: of time.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: Like what does that mean to you?
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: You know, just being a kid like you said that
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: played minor league baseball and then and then dove into
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: attempted to play minor league baseball, like you said.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: The way you talk about you're skilling her, I mean.
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: Tryout well there, but you know, like what do you know,
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: what does that mean you to like build these characters
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: like Spider n Spaond that just stand the test of
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: time and venom that you know for you, you know,
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: did you ever imagine and see yourself doing things like this?
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: Here's the thing, Jason, and I'm sure you guys have
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: done plenty of interviews yourself, and people do when you
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: do interviews, people want you to like analyze yourself. Right,
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: we don't do that and people don't do that in life.
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: What we all do is live our life and then
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: all of a sudden there's things that we've either done good,
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: bet or and different that are now part of our
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: resume because and I say that, Jason, because if I
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: knew what I was doing and I knew how to
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: do it, I'd have twenty characters that were famous right now,
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: so you you trip into good luck at times, and
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: part of it is and the hockey ven act where
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: that you're not going to get a goal if you
• 28:06
  Speaker 5: don't take the shots, right. So the more shots you take,
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: then people go, oh, man, you got ten goals. Yeah,
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: cause they took a hundred shots, right. So it's not
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: like I took ten shots. I took one hundred shots
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: and only ten percent went in. So both the characters,
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: I mean, Venom was literally a complete accident. In the
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: quick story on that is I was I was doing
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: the Incredible Hulk at Marvel, and I was quick enough
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: to be able to do two books. Right. Most people couldn't,
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: but I was getting faster and I could do two books.
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: I was looking for another book, and so everybody at
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: the Marvel office, all the editors said, yeah, we'll look
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: for work, but don't go into the Spider Man office.
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: You don't want to go in there. It's a mess.
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: Now if you know my personality, Shoot, that's the wrong
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: thing to say, right. So I I'd belized to go,
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: come on, what do these guys say I went in there?
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: But they were true. There was a bunch of They
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: had three books at that time, three Spider Man books,
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: three different ones, and the artists were rotating and at
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: the time somebody came up and they said, hey, Todd,
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: this is our sort of icon character right now. Spider Man.
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: Amazing Spider Man, which was the granddaddy of the books,
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: is number twenty one in our sales ranks. If you
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: want to come on board, knock yourself out, because we're
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: looking for help. So I go, oh, okay, there's an opportunity.
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: But he was wearing this black costume from if there's
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: any Geeks out there, from this big series that had
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: come out in an event series called Secret Wars, and
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: I went yeah, so they offered me this Spider Man book.
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: But being a stubborn guy. And this is where the
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: accidents don't replicate that often because most mid twenty people say, oh,
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: you can give me Spider Man, cool and out the door, right.
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: But I was like, I don't want to draw him.
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: He was in the black costume, Peter Parker, I want
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: to draw them too, black costume. If you don't get
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: the black costume off, then I'm not going to draw it, right.
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: And they were like, well, the people who created it,
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: and the current editor in chief and some of the executives.
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: They like it, and I go, well, this is easy.
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: We'll just take it off. I'll create a new character.
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: We'll put it on that character, and then I can
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: get Peter Parker in his red and blue classic uniform.
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: So the very next day I handed them the design
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: that became Venom. Right, I'm here here, this is what
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: this costume should look like. You look way narlier instead
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: of on a one hundred and seventy pounds Peter Parker
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: who cares? And that character ends up moving on And
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: then the writer comes in, Dave make a liney to
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: add sort of the background to it, says it was
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: Eddie Brock. Let me tell you. He told me it
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: was Eddie Brock after the fact because I drew Venom
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: as big and monstrous, because I thought he was an alien.
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: And then they approved it. They said, man, we like
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: the design. And then like about a week later, David says, oh,
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: here here's the first story, and it's a guy named
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: Eddie Brock, And I went, whoa, whoa, who Eddie Brock.
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: Isn't he human? Like what the information I could have
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: used earlier when I was trying to draw this guy,
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: but they had proved that and I sort of liked
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: the look, and I went, eh, if Bruce Banner, little
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: skinny Bruce Banner can turn into the Hull, why can't
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: Eddie Brock turn into sort of a big Venom? And
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: that was it. And so Venom literally exists for one
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: reason because I didn't want to draw up Peter Parker
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: and that Dan Black costume. Right, So, and it turned
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: to a billion dollar happy accident for Marvel and Sony Pictures, right,
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: So that's how it is. And then when seven of
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: us left Marvel at the top of our game and
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: started Image Comics, and just so people know, everybody knows
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: Marvel and DC, right because of all the movies. If
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: you ask the next natural question, who's third, who's the
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: third biggest company, that's us Image and we have been
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: for over thirty years. So when we moved and started
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: Image Comic Book, nobody was buying Spawn. Nobody cared about Spawn.
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: That was the character. I'd created him in Calgary when
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: I was a kid going to high school in my basement,
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: when I was first starting to collect comics, and so
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: I had saved them all those years and pulled them
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: out and I go, we're going to do Spawn. But
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: nobody cared who that character was. What they cared about
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: at that time was that all of us who began
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: Image comics we had we were like the dream team
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: of artists and they were buying our art and so
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: they just look it. If you were if you were
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: Wayne Gretzky fan with the oilers and he went to
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: the Kings, you had to go to you had to
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: start watching Kings games. Right when Michael Jordan went to
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: the Washington Wizard, you had to start watching watching the
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: Washington Wizards. So Spawn was just that, and then the
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: bonus then was on each of us. And now I'm
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: just talking about my book to go, oh, they're buying
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: the book now because of me, because I'm that hot
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: Spider Man artist that they want more art from. And
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: let's see if they'll continue to buy it. I'm going
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: to have to deliver the goods. And now last I
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: think two days ago, I just handed an issue three
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: hundred and seventy of Spot.
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: Wow, Oh my god, I love it.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: It's an incredible run. I remember being twenty years old
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: during the McGuire Sosa home run chase in nineteen ninety eight.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: You mentioned being Canadian. We're all Canadian as well. I
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: was working at TSN as a production assistant. I was
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: going to school at Ryerson at the time, so I
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: remember being enraptured in the home run chase like everybody else.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: And I remember cutting the sound of a young Todd
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: McFarlane saying, I'm not rich. I just love baseba like
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: nobody else. I'm paying three million dollars since Mark McGuire
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: Baseball trusts me, I'm mortgaging my future for this. I
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: just love baseball so much. And I remember thinking afterwards,
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: when all this stuff came out the Mitchell Portega Man
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Poor topic front somewhere, is like, are you kidding me?
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: I paid three million dollars in this baseball what it's worth?
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: How Todd? Obviously we all got screwed by it, But
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: what was your reaction to all of that?
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: Well, first off, I didn't intend to spend that much.
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: Let's just be clear, right, I thought people would tap out.
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: That auction was held at Madison Square Garden. I had
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: just finished doing a fantasy camp in Florida for the
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: with the Baltimore Orioles. Because the guy who distributes the
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: most comic book was part owner of the Orioles at
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: that point and had been bugging me all the time
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: to come down there, right. So I finished it, and
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: then I had to get up to New York for
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: the for the press conference. There was an airline strike,
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: so I had to bake board and steal my way
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: literally all the way up to New York to get there.
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: But when the auction went here's here was here's what
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: Here's what went wrong In the hindsight is the young
• 34:57
  Speaker 5: lady that was bidding for me over the phone, she
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: had never done it before. She was the roommate of
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: somebody who worked at this auction house, and they knew
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: it was going to be kind of sort of busier
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: than usual, so they recruited some people, and so she
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: was on the phone going, hey, I've never done this before.
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: So where that cost me was if I had been
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: in the room, because I said, no, I just want
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: to be an anonymous bidder, right. If I had been
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: in the room at some point when I saw there
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: was another bidder that was serious, I would have just
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: stuck my hand up and never come down so that
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: that person could have seen I'm walking away with this
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: I don't give a shit what you're doing. I'm getting
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: this ball. But what ended up happening was at some
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: point the bidding. I think once it got past a million,
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: and I thought it would tap out at that point.
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: Once it got past a million, then wow, each bid
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: was then one hundred thousands. You had to go one
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: hundred each time. So when it bounced back to you,
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: it was like another two, another two, another two. And
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: I was telling her and it was and it was
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: literally I got to tell you guys, it was like
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: listening over the phone to a hockey game like I would.
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: She would bid, I go put the paddle up. Put
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: She couldn't hear me put the paddle. She put the
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: paddle up, and it'd be like like a little bit
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: of grown and then all of a sudden there'd be
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: a little bit of weight and then he, I guess,
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: put his paddle up, and then there was this cheer.
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: So it was like, oh, I see the home team's
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: taking the rush to the goalie down at the other
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: end here right and and I and it got so loud.
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: I kept saying, put the paddle up, and don't put
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: it down, and she's like, I can't understand what are
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: you saying? And so what that did to the guy
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: on the other end because I talked to him like
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: later and he goes, well, they kept putting the paddle down,
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: so I thought you were hesitating, Todd. And I'm like,
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: so this young lady cost me a lot o money.
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: But eventually I got the ball. Now here's here's why
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: I bought the ball. Do I like baseball? Shoot? Guys
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: would go on all day long. Do I like sports?
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: We're going for a week? I had been, I have,
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: I had started a toy company. And there's a couple
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: of rules in life, right like location, location, location, and
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: stick to what you know. And here's what I know sports.
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: So I go, I want to make sports figures, not
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: those starting lineup goofy little things around in the marketplace.
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: I'm I'm a hardcore collector, and I wouldn't give a
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: penny for though I never had one of them. I go, no,
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: I will not buy a bad fac simile of what
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: as an athlete. No, I'm not going to do it.
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: But when I try to get into the front doors
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: of the four major sports football, baseball, basketball, hockey, I couldn't.
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: They wouldn't let me in. I wasn't like, They're going,
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: who are you? And so I had to put my
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: auntie on the table at the big boy poker table.
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: And oddly for me, my calculation was, and you can
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: do odd things like this when you're not a public company.
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: I thought it was buying. I thought it was buying
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: that ball. If I get that ball, and then I
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: can get headlines, national headlines, which I did then very
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: quickly when I went back to those four sports, especially
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: the actual institutions. The unions welcomed me in prior to that,
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: but the but the the big boys, you know, who
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: owned the logos and the symbols, didn't. And then they
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: saw the headline and they they made this really easy
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: calculation of if he's got that much money to spend
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: on a baseball, he must be successful. Bring him in
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: and and and like I said before, literally I did.
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: I had to beg boor and steal every penny to
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: even pay for that. But that was it. So I
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: got in and in short order I ended up having
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: the NHL, the NFL, NBA, and Major League Baseball, the
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: players and and the uniforms. Because you have to have
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: two license you have to you have to get the
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: league to sign off, so I got the logos in
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: the uniform, and then I had to get the union
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: to sign off, so I have the players right. And
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: again you can imagine since there's hats and shirts sold
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: that the union doesn't get nearly as much money as
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: the leagues with the logos. So they were more than happy.
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: So I had I had the baseball Union and I
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: had the hockey Union. Said yes, and I began making
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: those two. My very first version of both of those
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: were without sanctioned logos, right and oh yeah yeah. And
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: so at some point then I came in to the
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: NHL and I had this meeting and I remember there
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: were all these lawyers sitting around the table and they
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: sat there and I had my toys, and there's like
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: Pavel Burrey. I had Pavel Burrey who was playing at
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: that point, he was playing for the Panthers. And they said,
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: you can't do this. Because I was just doing sort
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: of like generic stuff. They go, you can't do this, Todd,
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: I go do what they go, you can't do this.
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: This looks too much like the as I go, it's
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: not the Panther's uniform, going well, you can't do this,
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: we're gonna sue you, and I go, what do you say?
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: Like that? We're here so you guys can threaten me? Okay, cool?
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: So here's what I'm gonna tell you. First off, and
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: there isn't a Google back then, but like you guys
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: should do your research. You grab the wrong tiger by
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: the tail, right. I love these kinds of fights. So
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: here's what we're gonna here's what we're gonna do.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: You spawn, you.
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: Are gonna tell me that you're gonna go into court.
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: I've done my homework. All you have to do is
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: prove eleven different changes from the original and you're good
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: to go. I will walk you through twenty one of them. Right,
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: you're red for the panthers is not the same red
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: I have. I have like a burnt red. Right. So
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: if you want to go into court and say you
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: own fucking reddish, you're gonna lose. And then you own
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: yellowish colors, you're gonna lose. And that somehow you're the
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: only guy that can put stripes on a piece of cloth,
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: you're gonna lose. And here's your problem today. Right now,
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: everybody believes your threat because you send out these letters
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: all the time, the seas and desist. Not just the NHL, everybody, right,
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: all the big leagues, they do it. They protect their
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: their marks. I get it. But if we go to
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: court and you win, you already think you own one
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: hundred percent? What's your update, what's your what's your good day?
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: You own a one hundred percent? That you win, you have
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: one hundred percent. But if you don't, not only do
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: you have to give a piece back to me, but
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: that that case will go across the entire globe and
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: anybody who wants to then do a knockoff can then
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: do a knockoff. Now we can go that way, and
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: I'm perfectly willing to go that way. Or let's let's
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: look behind door number two. I give you a check
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: for a half a million dollars for a minimum guarantee,
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: and you give me the right show. I can actually
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: do the red that you own and the logo that
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: you own, and I can put Pavlo Brewery in the
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: uniform and that I'm gonna make this toy anyway, and
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: you can neither sew and get nothing. Could you already
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: think you want one hundred percent? Or you can take
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: this check for half a million and then I gotta
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: pay royalties on top of every sale for the rest
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: of my natural life, as long as I've got a
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: contract with you. I don't know. This seems like an
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: easy choice to me. But and so they went away
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: and they came back. Browse furled, and he went, Okay, begrudguingly,
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: We'll take the half a mill. So I was doing
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: NHL toys after that. Cool.
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: Well, that's an unbelievable story. And I wonder, I expect
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: your time with the Oilers was a little bit smoother
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: talking about anties on the table and especially creating or
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: maybe not, but how was that creating the team logo
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: and and and also being a part of that organization.
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: Whether it was rocky or whether it was, it was
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: a good experience for you.
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: Okay, So so i'll give you the Rocky part for
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: I'll give you right.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: I love here. I love hearing the Rocky part.
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, okay. So I'm a big hockey guy, right, so,
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: but I just it was driving me crazy how the
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: NHL was being played at that time, right, this is
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: one dominic Hassak and Key and Keith Pronger were winning
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: and Chris was it too defensive?
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: Like what do you think about it? Yeah, okay, to defensive?
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: Okay, too defensive, Like what are you talking about? They
• 43:46
  Speaker 5: were all time low since the fifties of scoring pull game,
• 43:49
  Speaker 5: Like you go to any CEO at any company and go, hey,
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: we're selling at the rate that we were forty five
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: years ago. That CEO is out right like, I don't
• 44:00
  Speaker 5: know why, and so I just so. I would then
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: do these interviews going I don't understand. I don't understand
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: why they don't get rid of the center ice line.
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: I don't understand why they don't go four on four.
• 44:12
  Speaker 5: I don't understand why they don't go into overtime. I
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: don't understand. I don't understand. And then here's the rocky part.
• 44:20
  Speaker 5: I would say that after I became sort of minority owner,
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: and then bring the phone would ring and it'd be
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: like the NHL front office and they're going, hello, this
• 44:31
  Speaker 5: is the Commissioner's office. Oh yeah, we're gonna send you
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: a bill. You've just been fined ten thousand dollars. And
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: I'm like pardon and they're like yeah. If you go
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: like when you signed the contract to become an owner,
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: there's like three binders, this thick of paperwork, and I
• 44:47
  Speaker 5: should have read all of it, but I didn't. And
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: so they went, if you go to binder three, page
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: twelve hundred and forty four, like section two, right, it
• 44:57
  Speaker 5: says something where I'm not supposed to disparage the league
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: or something like that, right, And I go, I'm not
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: disparaging the league, but okay, whatever. So I had to
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: pay it. Then I did another interview. I guess I
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: got wound up again and bring, uh, We're going to
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: send you another bill, right. The third bill was the
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: oilers paid for it. Right. They were just like Todd,
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: why why are we having to pay this bill? We'll
• 45:23
  Speaker 5: do it, but why we have this bill? Anyways, I
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: I we were at the Wayne Gretzky retirement uh, where
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: we raised his number up into the rafters, right, and
• 45:39
  Speaker 5: we were having a big celebration at dinner where Wayne
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: was there and a couple of dignitaries and uh uh
• 45:49
  Speaker 5: Commissioner Gordon or commissioner said. Commissioner Batman came in and
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: I was with some of the other guys and he
• 45:58
  Speaker 5: walked by and he goes, hellong time, and I went, hey,
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: mister Batman, good to see you. And all the other
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: minority owners of the oiler were like, man, Garry Betman
• 46:09
  Speaker 5: knows you. You know, Gary Bitman, he knows you. Man,
• 46:11
  Speaker 5: that's super cool. And I'm like, well, I don't know
• 46:13
  Speaker 5: that he knows me. I don't know that that would
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: be the world. I think I'm kind of infamous with them.
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: But okay, shortly thereafter I got a meeting. I was
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: in New York. I got a meeting with Commissioner Betman. Now,
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: for some reason, I don't remember why, I had my
• 46:28
  Speaker 5: seven year old daughter with me and I go, you're
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: going to the meeting. So she came into the meeting
• 46:33
  Speaker 5: and he just wanted to hear, like, my what my
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: rants were right? And he should never have done this
• 46:39
  Speaker 5: because that's like you. You asked Todd, what do you
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: think is wrong with hockey? That was like Mussolini from
• 46:44
  Speaker 5: the balcony, Right, I just want I just go, oh,
• 46:48
  Speaker 5: he said that one thing, So tell me your concerns.
• 46:50
  Speaker 5: And I just verbal vomited at him for an hour. Right.
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: But here's the fun part about it. As he was
• 46:57
  Speaker 5: doing that, my seven year old who's in his office,
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: bore it out of her skull, right, And so he
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: Gary was listening to me intently, and then every now
• 47:05
  Speaker 5: and then would go, just on, just one second time
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: that excuse me, a little girl, could you get your
• 47:11
  Speaker 5: feet off the Corinthian leather chair there? Just like just
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: could you turn around and sit? Yeah, thank you, Thank you,
• 47:18
  Speaker 5: my dear, and then like everyone, and then take twenty
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: minutes later, excuse me, could you put down that voss,
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: that mean voss? Could you just put it down on
• 47:27
  Speaker 5: the shelf stack. Thank you, my dear, just thank you.
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: So while she was basically touching all of his valuables,
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: I was I was going. And then not only was
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: I talking about all these things that later would come
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: to pass, because my wife would going, aren't those things
• 47:44
  Speaker 5: you used to get fined for? And I'm like, yeah, whatever.
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: But as part of the rules, My argument with him
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: was all the things I just said above and he
• 47:52
  Speaker 5: and he would say, well, we have a rules commission.
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: I'm going Gary, stop thinking about it, just implement one
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: of these rules like in the NBA. They want, Oh,
• 48:02
  Speaker 5: let's put a three point line on it. Oh, we
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: don't like that. We're gonna go back to two point. No,
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: we're gonna go back to the three. No, it's too far.
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: We're gonna move like you can't do his zone defense. No,
• 48:12
  Speaker 5: they change rules once a year, like take whatever the
• 48:16
  Speaker 5: ten you're thinking about, implement one. Let me tell you
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: I was never invited back to Gary's office after those
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: kinds of conversations. And at some point when I did
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: sell my piece years later, it freed me to be
• 48:36
  Speaker 5: able to just talk out loud again and say the things.
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: And I don't know. I go, why do you want
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: to make Paul Korea a goon? He's now having to
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: choke up his stick in the corners to protect himself
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: the way that the rules are right now. And Wayne Gretzky,
• 48:54
  Speaker 5: a young nineteen year old Wayne Gretzky came into this league,
• 48:57
  Speaker 5: they would be calling him the pretty good one, not
• 49:00
  Speaker 5: the great one, because he couldn't do what he did before.
• 49:05
  Speaker 5: I don't get it. Why on goalie pads. Why I'm
• 49:10
  Speaker 5: all for protecting the players, but you know that the
• 49:13
  Speaker 5: leg is only this thick. Why does the pad have
• 49:16
  Speaker 5: to be this stick right? Why are you doing what
• 49:21
  Speaker 5: do you like? Why do you have to I'd cut
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: those pads down, or I'd make them that bigger since
• 49:26
  Speaker 5: the players are getting bigger. I'm not saying a lot
• 49:28
  Speaker 5: and they're going, what do you want games to be
• 49:30
  Speaker 5: eight to nine? No, but I want to go from
• 49:32
  Speaker 5: two to one to at least three to two. And
• 49:35
  Speaker 5: I was threatening to go to games where I know
• 49:37
  Speaker 5: I'd have a good seat where the camera would be,
• 49:40
  Speaker 5: and I'd have my big sign, and every time the
• 49:42
  Speaker 5: goalie stopped stopped it, I'd have a big sign going.
• 49:45
  Speaker 5: It'd be sort of anti climate change. Stop protecting the air,
• 49:49
  Speaker 5: because that's what's happening. If the pad wasn't there, it
• 49:52
  Speaker 5: would have gone through the air. It wasn't gonna hit
• 49:54
  Speaker 5: his leg. I don't understand it. I don't understand you guys,
• 49:57
  Speaker 5: But you guys, do you Gary, I'll I'll just make
• 49:59
  Speaker 5: my toys do what we gotta do. But here we are.
• 50:02
  Speaker 5: Now we changed some of the rules. Oh okay, Oh
• 50:07
  Speaker 5: so you opened it up. So you now without the
• 50:09
  Speaker 5: center line, you have basically the bomb the breakaway pass.
• 50:12
  Speaker 5: Oh okay, every other sport has it. I'll go, go
• 50:16
  Speaker 5: go gog. But anyways, don't get me wound up. What
• 50:19
  Speaker 5: you have.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: Great stuff for Todd McFarland again spawn Venom Image Comics.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: This was tremendous and again, this is a good time
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: to remind people we are a collaboration of the NHL
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: and iHeartMedia. Todd, this was fantastic stuff. Man can't thank
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: you enough.
• 50:31
  Speaker 5: Sure all right, you guys be good.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: Thanks once again, Todd McFarland. He was fantastic. Emmy's recap.
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: A lot of ovations there for Stephen Colbert, course, who's
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: showays being canceled, so he finally gets to win an Emmy.
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: Congrats to him. I was just enraged though, Martin Scorsese,
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: who was America's greatest living director, has won an Emmy before.
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: He won it for directing Boardwalk Empire the Pilot, but
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: he was nominated for an Emmy. He was nominated for
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: Best Guest Actor in the Show, and I was so
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: thrilled that the studio did so well, especially Seth Rogen
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: fellow Canadian Vancouver guy. Jesus, I know he wents for acting,
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: writing and directing. That's incredible trifecta. But Marty was robbed.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: He loses to Brian Krantz, and again I love Crantz,
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: who doesn't love Walter White, But he's not enough Emmys
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: for acting. Marty could have won his first Acting Emmy
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: for Best Guest Actor in a comedy series. He loses
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: along with Ron Howard, who tal was also a fan
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: of the Congrats to Brian Krant and it wins for
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: the studio. Your thoughts on the Emmy Awards.
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: Uh, well, I mean I did watch it as well.
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: You know, my wife forced it.
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: She sat me down, tied me to a chair, and
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: opened my eyelids open. So I was forced, much to
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: my chagrin. And you know, my wife made a funny comment.
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: The other day.
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: She's like, I was like, who the hell watches this?
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: We're one of four people watching this and we live
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: in a condo. You know, we live in a condo
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: building in Arizona because we you know, we travel so much,
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: and we literally look across the way and in one
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: of the condo buildings across somebody's watching the Emmy, some
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: old person. And my wife's like, yeah, these fucking old
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: people and me watched the Emmys, And I guess you
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: as well, tal So Talon, Uh but I like, you know,
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: do I like those award shows?
• 52:08
  Speaker 5: No?
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: I don't like the self pandering and the self masturbatory.
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: I like the Boys and Girls Club thing. I thought
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: it was hilarious. I know a lot of people were mad, but.
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: It just goes to show you. I get it. You
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: win an award, it's amazing.
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: But to what Nate Bargatzi was saying is like more
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: people are watching social media, so do your thank yous,
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: and if you want to do something really long and extended,
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: give really a heartfelt thank you. Don't take this stage
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: to hijack it for the kids. And exactly the way
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: that I predicted it, the actors did not give a
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: fuck about the kids, and they were like negative seventy
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: grands and.
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: Then they're all like, well, it's the first time we won.
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: And I get it.
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: And I think it's a big thing when you're a
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: first time winner for an Emmy to thank people so
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: and I know it's a hard job to win those things.
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: It's hard to win. But yeah, to your point, I mean,
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: there's a lot to like about it. I loved I
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: wish Corsese would have won, but it's hard to deny
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: as much as Brian Cranston has won so many awards,
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: how good he was, he was hysterical chief and how
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: that they told him I read something. They basically told
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: him that last episode at the studio like hey, like
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: just like run wild, and they did not expect him
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: to like walk around his pants and they're like, holy fuck,
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: like is he going too far?
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: That?
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: Did you read that?
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: I didn't know that, but I thought it was but
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: he's in the gondel of his pants.
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: But they told him it was so funny.
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: They gave him the leash and they literally like Seth Rogan,
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: I think, was looking being like this is is this
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: too much?
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: Like? Because he just went after it so great.
• 53:40
  Speaker 6: Tell your thoughts in the Emmys, I watched it a
• 53:42
  Speaker 6: little different this time. I didn't watch it live. I
• 53:45
  Speaker 6: the the Television Academy really quickly had like basically YouTube
• 53:50
  Speaker 6: clips of every award ready to go as soon as
• 53:53
  Speaker 6: the show is over, So I just watched all the
• 53:55
  Speaker 6: acceptance speeches and the presentations. I didn't watch much of
• 53:58
  Speaker 6: Bergosa's gen z. Yeah, let's just get through this so
• 54:03
  Speaker 6: I can watch some tiktoks.
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: Damn it.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: No. I I loved seeing uh. I loved seeing the
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: studio get so much love.
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: I love that show.
• 54:12
  Speaker 6: I was so blown away and was really thought it
• 54:16
  Speaker 6: was really cool to see Seth Rogan like sweep the awards.
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: Basically, I've killed it.
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: I think he was.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: I think he is.
• 54:22
  Speaker 6: It's the best acting performance of his career in my opinion,
• 54:26
  Speaker 6: and obviously the writing and the direction is next level
• 54:29
  Speaker 6: with all these one shots.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: You know, so I love the show. That That was
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: my main takeaway.
• 54:35
  Speaker 6: I liked the Little Kid from Adolescences except in speak.
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that was pretty cool.
• 54:41
  Speaker 6: I mean, I'm not a big awards show guy, like
• 54:44
  Speaker 6: like JD said, unless my wife is watching it and
• 54:47
  Speaker 6: I happen to be in the room, I'm not really
• 54:48
  Speaker 6: paying much attention to it. But love seeing uh love
• 54:52
  Speaker 6: seeing the studio get get all that love.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: And congrats Adolescence and the pit huge winners there he
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: come back.
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and then who knew the show about the Hollywood
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: and all the studio execs right mass you know, just
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: massaging them wins all the awards.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: Class's my buddy' said Hollywood votes for Hollywood. He goes,
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: what a surprise, A big circles jerk wins all the awards.
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, this is not surprising the studio would
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: do so well. Weapons is a critical acclaimed film ninety
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: four percent on Rotten Tomatoes. I'm not a big horror
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: movie guy. My friends kept seeing it. Go see it.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: I said, well, I'll just wait till it's streaming. So
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: I paid twenty bucks to watch it on direct TV
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: the other night, and probably a good thing I didn't
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: watch in the theater because there's more than a few
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: jump scaries. You watch it during the day, it's not
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: nearly as scary, although, as my friends had said to me,
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: know it's a horror comedy. It's a kind of in
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: that Jordan peele Vain listen. I thought it was an
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: excellent movie. The less said about it, the better. Basically,
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: the premise is one morning, twenty kids from one classroom disappear,
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: and we don't know why that is. And I thought
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: the mosaic structure of it was fascinating, you know, the
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: one sections about Julia Gardner who's the teacher, Josh Brown's
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: a father of one of the kids, and then the
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: story goes around and around. I thought it was ingeniously plotted.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: I thought it was an excellent payoff, good horror movie,
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: not as scary, So that's a good news for me.
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: Weapons a good solid film at the theaters. What do
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: you think, Jendy.
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: Love the love the premise, love the build up, didn't
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: love that it would ended up being some like you know,
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: weird foodoo, juniper bush or whatever the hell it was, Like,
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: I was kind of hoping it was like because they
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: kind of teased it this like virus, you know, when
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: they had the wild nat geo, this fungus thing, and
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: that's kind of been the a lot of the movies
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: now talking about like these diseases and fungle things that
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: take over you. So, I mean, I loved the villain.
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: I thought she was incredible. And I do love that
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: first scene with the the you know, the the gay
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: couple and he basically she's sitting there, Can I get a.
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: Bowl of water?
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: And I just I love that whole build up, and
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: then kind of after that, like the whole I just
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: didn't know, but you know, I I did think it's
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: I like the pacing of it and the jump scares.
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: I watched it in theaters with Jill and I jumped
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: out of my seat on one of the scenes like and.
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: Was like had I was like this.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: Like you just He's like here comes, Yeah, don't do
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: it to me.
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So but I liked it. It's a good movie.
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, really definitely not not not a genre I watch
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: a ton of, like you said, with the horror movies,
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: but I thought it was a well made genre movie
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: and uh, definitely excellent performances across the board. All right,
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: a little more hockey, we'll get out of here. Captain
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: returns the Rangers fed a pretty natural part of where
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: it came. The shoulder patches will wear this season. The
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: team will be sporting a logo for Game seven, the
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: multi platform sports and entertainment brand copan and by Mark Messier.
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: What do you think about this shitty mess and the
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: Captain returns for the Rangers.
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I love it, love everything about it. I mean
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: it's I just like, yeah, it's just I mean, as
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: simple as that. Let's just keep it simple, stupid.
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: I like it. I love it.
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it fits, it fits, and I like it. You know,
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: I know we're always looking for me to hate on stuff,
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: but I love it exactly.
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: You're all in on Broadway here. Connor McDavid got to
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: enjoy when the money Fringe benefits to be in the
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: face of the NHL of the weekend, He got to
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: hang out on stage with country star Morgan Wallen during
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: his concert Edmonton. Your thoughts and Morgan Wallen.
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: Well, now we can go to something I don't.
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: Like that was my assumption. I all all of you
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: shocked if JD.
• 58:11
  Speaker 4: I'm sick of this Morgan wall and walk out shit.
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: I'm just like, are we serious? Like okay, you know
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: famous people great and watching them awkwardly walk and then
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: it's he's like doing this, and then you know the
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: half of the actors and people are just kind of
• 58:25
  Speaker 4: walking and then you kind of rub your hands together
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: and like look at the camera and like hype everybody up,
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: and then you have another two minute walk to get
• 58:33
  Speaker 4: to the stage. So I think it's just a little
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: bit overplayed. Now that's me zigging when everybody's zagging. But
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: I don't know any Morgan Wallen songs.
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: Nor do I. I'm glad youthson was sending me a
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: Morgan wall In contra and I go, I gotta be
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: watching that. I know the name. I wouldn't know one single.
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: Normally I would at least know one single. I have
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: no idea Morganwallan is all but a huge star.
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, didn't he get caught like a bunch of times,
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: Like wasn't he like canceled and not canceled?
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: And and I don't.
• 58:57
  Speaker 4: Know what can you tell us about would had he
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: had a song with Posts alone.
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: I like, that's the only one I know by him.
• 59:07
  Speaker 6: And as far as what you're referring to my my
• 59:10
  Speaker 6: understanding is he got busted dropping some N bombs, some
• 59:14
  Speaker 6: hard That's what I got what it was and uh
• 59:19
  Speaker 6: after the country if it turns out misinformed, But then
• 59:23
  Speaker 6: I got got geez no, I know, yeah, but I
• 59:26
  Speaker 6: guess it was he was he got out of uh
• 59:29
  Speaker 6: of jail, of celebrity jail.
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: Eventually, I guess, wow, okay, well that's.
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: What it was. Yeah, I was.
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: I was like some I kind of was like, didn't
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: fucking like It's like seeing Armie Hammer at kind of
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: the resurgence of Armie Hammer, and it was like, those
• 59:42
  Speaker 4: are like all these weird allegations are Kevin or Kevin Spacey.
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: It's like, oh, you guys, just get a new publicist
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: in here, right back out there.
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: Well, from racially charged mature from Morgan Wall to another
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: racially charged guy in Shane Gillis. Of course, he lost
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: his job with sn L because of some jokes in
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: the surface of the past, but Asian comedians, it's all
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: worked out well though for Shane though, he's never been
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: more popular SNL actually brought him back when he joked,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: and now there's a great pick making the rounds over
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: the weekend of NHL Stars and Buddy's Cole Cottfield and
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: Trevor Zegres hanging out with Shane Gills. Gill's probably a
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: huge Philly guy, loves the Eagles, loves the Flyer, so
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: the Segrets connection there makes sense. But do a little
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: bit crowd work your thoughts on Shane Gills. I think
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: he's really funny and for everyone does a Trump impression, JD.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: Gillis might do the best one.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: He's just like the classic everyday man comedian and I
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 4: just think he's so incredibly funny everything he does. I
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: mean him on I don't know what the name of
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: that show is, The Football Show with McAfee when he's
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: when he's chirping Nick Saban and he calls him Alabama Jones.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: It's one of the all time great clips if we
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: If you could find that and people are listening, go
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: watch that. He basically makes a joke pregame show about
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: how you know Nick Saban pays his players, and then
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: he's on set with him, and then Nick Saban's like
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 4: pissed off. Oh, and he basically is on live and
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: he's being like, I thought, this is a fun show,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: and he's like Alabama Jones over here because he's wearing
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: like an Indiana Jones hat, because Alva Jones over here.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: Good kiss at me.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: And it's just like he's so good at kind of
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: toning that line and being like, don't be a dickhead.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: And you know, I love him.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: I'm a big fan of his and my wife loves him,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: and you know, Tim Dillon, all those guys.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: Un Tel, you love this joke from the SPI's about Belichick.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: Well, I was just gonna drop this one quick.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 6: I loved him at the SPZ and I'm not an
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 6: award show guy, but he made it. He started with
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 6: a joke about shoey Otani and his bookie, and then
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 6: he followed up by saying a bookie is what Bill
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 6: Belichick reads his girlfriend before bedtime.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: Loved it.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: Amazing line, amazing, All right, Thanks so much, j D
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: and tal has always thank it. Everyone for checking out
• 1:01:43
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• 1:01:46
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• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: Robert Redford. The legend leaves us at the age of
• 1:01:50
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• 1:01:52
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• 1:01:55
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