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#633 - French Montana on His $1M Proposal, Industry Politics, Chinx Legacy, Drake & More · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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  Speaker 1: What up.
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  Speaker 2: It's your boy Fresh Montana. Check me out with my
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  Speaker 1: is there. You might hear us. Let's get into the interview.
• 0:47
  Speaker 1: Boutlet Cavs Show, Bootlet Camp Podcast. This guy a legend,
• 0:51
  Speaker 1: carried New York on his back for the better part
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  Speaker 1: of the last you know, I don't know, there was
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  Speaker 1: like a nice little seven or eight year run there
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  Speaker 1: where you were the face of the whole shit, you know.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Montana, we ain't going nowhere.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Heah, listen this Cooke Wave three point five
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  Speaker 1: is uh. You guys delivered, That's all I'll say.
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  Speaker 3: Man, thank you, Bro.
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  Speaker 1: That means a lot in an era where a lot
• 1:11
  Speaker 1: of people who put out albums with a lot of
• 1:13
  Speaker 1: anticipation don't necessarily deliver. Man, this was exactly what I
• 1:17
  Speaker 1: feel like. Yeah, you guys picked right back up. It's
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  Speaker 1: a certain sound, yeah, and it's elevated. Man. Yeah, the
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  Speaker 1: production is so crazy on this album. Man, shots to
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  Speaker 1: everybody like Metro obviously, Harry fraud like.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Grease shot, Johnny Goldstein shot, yeah, shot to everybody
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  Speaker 2: to play the part.
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  Speaker 1: Man, is that sound?
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  Speaker 3: Does that sound that we me and my boy get
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  Speaker 3: in there?
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  Speaker 1: Man?
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  Speaker 3: We just got that. You know.
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  Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you like for you like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: obviously you and Max talk all the time and he's incarcerated,
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  Speaker 1: but he gets out, Like is there any sort of
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  Speaker 1: hiccups in the chemistry or is it like kind of
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  Speaker 1: picking up Like.
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  Speaker 2: I kind of like kept them in in the loop
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  Speaker 2: throughout the whole time when he was locked up. Like
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  Speaker 2: every time before I put out something, you know, we
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  Speaker 2: would go through this and that. Like when we did
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  Speaker 2: Wave Guards, he hosted it. He was he had a
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  Speaker 2: song damn now and everything that I dropped. But he
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  Speaker 2: every time he writes something, he would hit me be like, yo,
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  Speaker 2: listen to this. Then he'd be doing features from there.
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  Speaker 2: And I mean he was always in the loop. I
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  Speaker 2: mean I just think that we like musically inclined, right.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, you know, we always me and him been
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  Speaker 2: digging into crate since day one, and we always kind
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  Speaker 2: of match with the with the with with with the
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  Speaker 2: sonic and the sound. So it's always that frequency of
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  Speaker 2: me and him, like we kind of like grew up
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  Speaker 2: on the same music.
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  Speaker 1: You have one of the best ears for production, I
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  Speaker 1: feel like, especially when it like like just underrated with
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  Speaker 1: your ear when it comes to picking. Like I think
• 2:37
  Speaker 1: back to that Montaga album was fucking crazy Harry Frog,
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, such a slept on project.
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  Speaker 3: Yea, yeah, yeah for sure.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it's like like like Max Will says, a
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  Speaker 2: late bloom.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was it was solid. But for you,
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  Speaker 1: like what is it about your ear? And like the
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  Speaker 1: beat peak picking selection, like, like, do you know exactly
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  Speaker 1: what you're looking for? How involved are you? Especially on
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  Speaker 1: this album? Was you and Max going through beats?
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  Speaker 3: It was? It was. It was definitely a collaboration. You
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  Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: It's definitely a collaboration. But he's been he's been locked
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  Speaker 2: up for so long. I had so so many beats,
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  Speaker 2: Like every time doing the album or something, there will
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  Speaker 2: be joints. I'll just be like, oh, I can't do
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  Speaker 2: this by myself. I gotta just put this away, put
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  Speaker 2: it in his sick Yeah. So I had a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of those just just just to the side. But as
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  Speaker 2: far as picking beats, yeah, he's he's he's immaculate with
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  Speaker 2: it too.
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  Speaker 3: He like he goes in digging the crazy and he
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  Speaker 3: be pulling out some ships sometimes to be like, how
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  Speaker 3: the fuck you got that? Especially West Coast.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say that. Ever since you left
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  Speaker 1: me record, I feel like we're in it. We have
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  Speaker 1: so much like lack of tempo right now. Yeah, like
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  Speaker 1: when you go to the fucking club dog like it's depressing. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, y'all gave us a record that is obviously yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's got West Coast bounce to it, and do
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, do and it got like, uh,
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  Speaker 1: we know the sample a generational bridge. Yeah, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: You got certain people that relate to this sample and
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  Speaker 2: you got uh the gen zs they relate to the
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  Speaker 2: bounce because it's a new bounce. That's that's that's what
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  Speaker 2: they using a drill too. You know, it's like everything
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  Speaker 2: comes together in that record.
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  Speaker 1: What was the process like getting Metro Booming to come
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  Speaker 1: on board and like, you know, he handled some some
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  Speaker 1: amazing work on this project and obviously Metros.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Metro that's my guy.
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  Speaker 1: Man, He's the Metro Wave. Record is fucking crazy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's in one of the you know, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I don't got to say it.
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  Speaker 2: He's damn near the biggest producer that generation. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: think if our generation I called I called him the
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  Speaker 2: Minder and day Doctor Dre that's my boy. Shot the
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  Speaker 2: Metro man shot them, I broke cash, shot the South,
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  Speaker 2: a shot to.
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  Speaker 3: The whole team.
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  Speaker 2: It's just Metro was was so part of the culture.
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  Speaker 2: Well me and Max was coming up and you know
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  Speaker 2: he kind of grew up on that type of music.
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  Speaker 2: So when Cash hit me, I was just like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like let's let's let's make it happen.
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  Speaker 3: But it was.
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  Speaker 2: It was supposed to be a whole tape done well
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  Speaker 2: Max and Metro. But the way Max came home and
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  Speaker 2: he has so many records with Greece and and and
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  Speaker 2: fraud and we never actually never did an album with
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  Speaker 2: one person, but Metro will be the first person that
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  Speaker 2: will do it.
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  Speaker 1: So so that's still in the work.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, still in the worst we were, Still we
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  Speaker 3: still got to have a conversation.
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  Speaker 1: It feels like Metro like understood the assignment, which means
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  Speaker 1: he had just been like a big family.
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  Speaker 2: He came with those ready, then the Sarenation one, he
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  Speaker 2: just went in the room and he locked himself in
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  Speaker 2: there and and I remember Max just walking by his
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  Speaker 2: room and he came in and he was.
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  Speaker 3: Like, can you believe this? Motherfucking there man, he been
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  Speaker 3: hot and shit, we will walk in there and Metros like,
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  Speaker 3: now I just made this. So it's kind of like
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  Speaker 3: a funny ass moment.
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  Speaker 1: Well that's though too, because as you know, man, like
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  Speaker 1: sometimes you don't even see a producer. You might they
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  Speaker 1: might make the album, you might not even meet him.
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  Speaker 1: They might might be off YouTube, but to be able
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  Speaker 1: to be in the lab and like create no Metro
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  Speaker 1: say I'm coming. Yeah, Metro say I'm coming. That's important
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  Speaker 1: man for you man, Like, do you feel like I
• 6:04
  Speaker 1: feel like this album is going crazy? Obviously, Rocky's album
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  Speaker 1: just hit number one. Like it feels like New York
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  Speaker 1: Is is definitely.
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  Speaker 2: Making Marty Rocky cash Us.
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  Speaker 3: Boogie. New York is good man, you know it's good
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  Speaker 3: even though o G's doing anything.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels like, you know, I feel like everyone's
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  Speaker 1: got like even if they're not rapping, they have their
• 6:29
  Speaker 1: podcasting like a mother.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, Like everybody's got their podcast.
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  Speaker 3: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Joe is lit.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody got a podcast.
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  Speaker 2: I just saw Murder and Yayo podcast having them got
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  Speaker 2: a podcast. Joe and them got a podcast. Man, I
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  Speaker 2: just feel like, you know, the game is growing, you know,
• 6:49
  Speaker 2: the game is growing. Everybody doing anything, everybody looking, everybody hustles, right. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: So some people rap because they want to make money
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  Speaker 2: and some people, you know, I really love the passionate music.
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  Speaker 1: By the end of the day, when you grow and.
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  Speaker 2: Accomplish everything you want, sometimes you want to just you know,
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  Speaker 2: spread your wings a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Would you ever entertain doing being a personality like that?
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  Speaker 2: For me, it's not fair because there will be some
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  Speaker 2: days that I don't want to do it and I
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  Speaker 2: don't want to cheat the fans, right, you know what
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  Speaker 2: I'm saying. So like today I might be like I
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  Speaker 2: want to do a podcast and talking my shit, but
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  Speaker 2: then you know, tomorrow I don't feel like going.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I feel like it's a job.
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  Speaker 2: And like Joe and Jada, when I went there, it
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  Speaker 2: was like it's a job, Like oh, you really have
• 7:38
  Speaker 2: to be hit and like yeah, like all right, man.
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  Speaker 1: You will randomly pop up on like these huge records
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  Speaker 1: like last year, you're on one of the biggest like
• 7:47
  Speaker 1: club records, Moke Chicken with boss Man Dilo.
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  Speaker 3: That's my thing.
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  Speaker 2: I like, I like, I like to make sure I'm
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  Speaker 2: want to at least one anthem a year.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's been trying to do that my whole career.
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  Speaker 1: What was the process like getting with him and ending
• 8:01
  Speaker 1: up on that record.
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  Speaker 3: Shot the Josh and shot to Zoe.
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  Speaker 2: I was in Miami and no no Zoe, my an
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  Speaker 2: R got it. So we was in the studio and
• 8:19
  Speaker 2: I forgot it was my team and his team that
• 8:22
  Speaker 2: the managers was talking and there was like, yeah, we're
• 8:24
  Speaker 2: in Miami and they told him come to the studio.
• 8:26
  Speaker 2: He came, he played me his album before it came out,
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  Speaker 2: and he was just like going through records. I remember
• 8:33
  Speaker 2: it was that record and it was another record that
• 8:38
  Speaker 2: that we cut. But that's one record. As soon as
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  Speaker 2: I heard it because of the whole Biggie and Little
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  Speaker 2: Kim sound on the bag. Money fuck bitch is money.
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  Speaker 2: So I was like, Okay, this is this. This is
• 8:52
  Speaker 2: more Miami and East Coast vibe. So that one, it
• 8:55
  Speaker 2: was just and we always knew that was one of those.
• 8:58
  Speaker 2: I was just waiting for him to drop. It wasn't
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  Speaker 2: the focus single neither.
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  Speaker 1: It just kind of did his thing. It wasn't the
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  Speaker 1: Yeah it was it. It was like one of them,
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  Speaker 1: Like he's got like three or four of those that
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  Speaker 1: they never worked where you're like, yeah, he's go to
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  Speaker 1: the clear, Like why is it this? Why did they
• 9:11
  Speaker 1: pushing this? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. I was handing them up. I was like, yo, bro,
• 9:14
  Speaker 3: you gotta go to radio mo Chicken.
• 9:16
  Speaker 1: You're like super always. I feel like, no matter what
• 9:19
  Speaker 1: you got going on, tapped in with whatever's going on next? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I got think back to like Lockjaw, like you're one
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  Speaker 1: of the earlier dudes who were like super on the
• 9:27
  Speaker 1: Embrace Kodak, Like, yeah, what is why? Why is that
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  Speaker 1: so important for you?
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  Speaker 2: I feel like maybe it was because of me and
• 9:37
  Speaker 2: being a young artist and appreciating when when when the
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  Speaker 2: og or somebody that I grew up listening to their
• 9:44
  Speaker 2: music reached out to me. Like I always say this,
• 9:46
  Speaker 2: like when when I was first coming up and Jada
• 9:48
  Speaker 2: Kiss just came and did a Verse on New York Minute,
• 9:52
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, crazy record that hit me different.
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  Speaker 2: So ever since then, he can never hit me, and
• 9:56
  Speaker 2: I could be like no to anything, you know what
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  Speaker 2: I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: So I was.
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  Speaker 2: I always told myself that any new artists that I like,
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  Speaker 2: I love to spread my wings. And I also was
• 10:06
  Speaker 2: in and I'm coming up, and there was a lot
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  Speaker 2: of artists that I was like, yo, I need a
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  Speaker 2: Verse this and that, and there was like twenty thousand
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  Speaker 2: or they gave me.
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  Speaker 3: You know, they did the kyri Irvan to spin off,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, So what's the spinoff?
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  Speaker 1: You know? To spin Like, yeah, I got you send
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  Speaker 1: it over, I'll get to it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, you know, I'm trying to I'm trying
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  Speaker 2: to write my verse, but I don't know if I
• 10:27
  Speaker 2: can catch this beat. Send me something else, yeah yeah,
• 10:29
  Speaker 2: send me something else, and it's like, no, this is
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  Speaker 2: the single, bro.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. So it is that A lot a lot of that.
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  Speaker 1: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Do you remember like when like the switch kind of
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: flipped for you and you felt like, because obviously you
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: had been bubbling bubbling so much in the New York
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: mixtape DVD era and you caught some regional joints, but
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: I feel like shot Calling was like one of them
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: records that like it changed, like it changed everything for you. Then.
• 10:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah it did because you got to think about it.
• 11:00
  Speaker 2: Cocaine City first one dropped like two thousand and three.
• 11:03
  Speaker 2: I was like, I'm gonna be an artist, So I
• 11:05
  Speaker 2: started pulling myself in all them DVDs. Then by the
• 11:07
  Speaker 2: time like two thousand and five came, I went up
• 11:12
  Speaker 2: to go see Goby and SRC. Yeah, and that's when
• 11:15
  Speaker 2: they had all all the artists up there and it
• 11:18
  Speaker 2: kind of there was like, man, we want to give
• 11:21
  Speaker 2: you like two hundred thousand dollars to sign this and that,
• 11:23
  Speaker 2: and never you know, I got this Kyrie Irving spent
• 11:26
  Speaker 2: off again.
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 11:28
  Speaker 2: Then I had a record that Goby was playing, so
• 11:31
  Speaker 2: Akon came and gave me a shopping deal for artists,
• 11:33
  Speaker 2: So I signed my first deal like two thousand and five.
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: Then that that was what SRC.
• 11:39
  Speaker 3: That was, That was Convict.
• 11:42
  Speaker 2: So right after that, I dropped my first mixtape. Then
• 11:46
  Speaker 2: after that, I think I met Max. I met Max
• 11:49
  Speaker 2: after I dropped my first single, Straight Cash, so I
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: met Max. Me and Max did Coke Wave one, we
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: did Coke Wave two. So me and Max had a
• 11:59
  Speaker 2: run to like probably two thousand and nine when he
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: got arrested. Then after that dropped My Mac and Cheese three.
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: That's when I had Ultro Sinkhole and I had everything
• 12:09
  Speaker 2: as to go and we had Chopper chopping down, so
• 12:12
  Speaker 2: I was hitting them with like anthem after anthem.
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  Speaker 3: That's when I dropped the Sanctuary.
• 12:16
  Speaker 2: That's when you know, then when Max got locked up,
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: it was kind of like everybody turned it back on
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  Speaker 2: me because I was like black ball because just we
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: were just like you know, one of the first yeah,
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: you know, drill music, Like we was like bombing on
• 12:30
  Speaker 2: everybody right, So everybody blackballed me. Then I had to
• 12:34
  Speaker 2: just go lock in, locked in with Harry Fraud. That's
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: when I met Harry Fraud. And when me and Harry
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: Fraud locked in, that's what came out Shot Caller.
• 12:42
  Speaker 3: So that was the record that was just like, it.
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: Doesn't matter who blackballed me, this is gonna cut straight through.
• 12:49
  Speaker 2: So shot Caller was the one. It was like Moses
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: when he stood in front of the ocean.
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: It was crazy Broyah. And then like now, obviously he's
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: such a part of your sound, Fred, Like think of Harry,
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: Harry Frod dropped some crazy projects with a lot of
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: artists like Spitter, like Currncy. But when I think of
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: Harry Fraud and I think of you, it's like, yeah,
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: it's like Parrail and the Clips exactly.
• 13:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, hell yeah, man, it's like Drey and Snoop.
• 13:14
  Speaker 1: It's crazy, man, like a Kon's ear. He gotta we
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: gotta put some respect on his name.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, shot the akon Ac is a huddler.
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: He had you, lady, God got t pain Yeah, fuck
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  Speaker 1: Red Cafe.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he could have had the biggest label ever.
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  Speaker 1: That's crazy. Yeah, it is interesting because I wonder like, obviously,
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: I feel like in the last couple of years, you know,
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: I don't want to get into like the specifics about Diddy.
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: The bad Boy as a label has such a historical
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: place in our culture no matter what, you can take
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: that away, right, But from your perspective of just kind
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: of you know, sitting back and just seeing everything kind
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: of unwind over the last couple of years, was your
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: like you because I talked to Kels about this MGK
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: recently off camera. Obviously He's like, Man, I hadn't like
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: everything was fine a bad Boy when you know what
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, was your experience being on the label
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: like a positive one? Likely?
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: Of course, Man, everything is learning experience wherever you are.
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: Because remember my my thing was it was Mayeback music
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: or Ross because my deal was like a two way deal. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So it was an experience.
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: I went from me and Max to.
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: Me and Fraud and y'all got classics together too. Yeah, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. We got a lot of records.
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about your relationship with Mac
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: Miller because you also worked with mac Miller back in
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: the day shot, and I think Mac Miller is, you know,
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: a generational talent. Obviously lost him too soon, but I
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: always wonder man like folks who was able to work
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: with him the blog era? What what like? What was
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: y'all's relationship? Like, I was just c Mac and we
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: just get toasted. That checks out.
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: That's all I remember. I remember just seeing Mac. We
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: just get toasted.
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: It was just he would have this big ass bottle
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: of Lean and he would pour like the whole half
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: and then I'd be like, yo, bro, you wilding out
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: And it was just and it was just that kind
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: of that cond that was always every time we got together.
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: We always made some great music. We always had a
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: great time, and we always you know, had had some memories.
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: But he was he was. He was definitely my turn
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: up partner.
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what year do you feel like? You like? Because
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: the Lean ship had a hellholder everybody? Yeah, you had
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: the Lean gup for a sec and then you got
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: it together and yeah, of course you know what I'm saying.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: I forget what you album cover you had, but you
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: made it a point to show everybody went around in
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: the gym.
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: Hell yeah, I mean look you see you see what
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: happened to mac. You see everything happening to everybody. You
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: see rich Homi Kwan, you see you know me? I mean,
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: I just went to the doctor and I ended up
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: in ic U, and I took the wrong pills and
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: I ended up in ICU. My doctor was just like, look,
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: if you drink again, you're gonna die. I was like,
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: that's all you gotta tell me.
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: Do you feel like that kicked off? Because you're a pretty
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: healthy guy. Now you're in great shape, Like that kick off?
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: You taking your health serious?
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: Hell yeah, but doctor tell you about to die, you
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: better take your health serious.
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: She that's so that's all you had to tell me.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: That was it.
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so, that's all you had to tell me,
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: You're about to die. I was at ICU for like
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: three weeks.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: Damn, and this was I'm taking something the wrong ship.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: Or taking the wrong ship and taking the wrong ship
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: for so many years.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: Right pills.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: You don't know what you know what I'm saying, I
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: don't know you were.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: You were a legendary partier for sure. Yeah listen, I'm
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: from Arizona and you had a place called the Pink
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: Rhino going stupid for yeah, once or twice a year.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because even even now, it's like you gotta get
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: a like you really gotta buy your fucking pill and
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: really put.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: That ship to them and get a fucking test.
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: Care a test, kid, Then you gotta put that shit.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: If you don't have that, you gotta put that shit
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: to the light, put your flash light in it.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: It just feels like a lot to see to see if.
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: It's fuzzy, because if it's fuzzy, you got fucking fitting
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: on it. You gotta make sure the pills c But
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: for what right you can't even get high comfortable.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: I just smoke weed in each rooms, man.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, fuck that.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: You still smoke weed?
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: Nah?
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: No?
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like nineteen ninety six to me, man, I get lazy.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: What about do you drink a lot? Still?
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: No, I don't drink. I stopped drinking.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: Oh so you're fucking yeah yeah, check you out. Man,
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: You're like David Goggins a hip hop Yeah.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: Man, I'm trying to you know, And I still feel
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: drunk from the time that I stopped, so for real,
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: I stopped in twenty nineteen.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: So I'm like, I'm like, I'm like a good strong seven.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: Congrats man, thank you. That's incredible.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: Thank you brother.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: Do you have an outlet like, uh, like if you like,
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: if you go out, like you get booked at a club?
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: Are you like, like I swear to god, my birthday
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: was last week. Yeah, and I had them bring me
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: to twelve packs of diet coke like they were bottles
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: for real. Yeah, I had the bottles. You don't drink, no, no, no,
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: I was that night. I wasn't trying drink because I
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: didn't want my wife to be mad at me because
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: she wasn't in town with me. Yeah, so I had
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: bottles for the homies. I owned the club. It's my
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: club in Scotts.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: If you drink your uncontrollable no, no.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: No, I just I had some uncontrollable times recently and
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: I was like, look, I'm gonna go. But I had
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: them bring me diet coke. Yeah.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: So I was like in the club, Yeah yeah, that's crazy.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: But you get booked to do a club? Are you
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: just hanging out? You're hitting a vape? What are you doing?
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. Like I would smoke a little hookah.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: Hookah okay yeah yeah yeah that checks out.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, little got to the hookah yeah, a little hookah
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: head and then you know she was going on in
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: the club, my drinking.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: Little diet coke.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: Or like some good coke zero monster, good monster drink
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: love me drinking the monsters.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: You and Uh. When I think of like chemistry and
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: rap and h you've done so many joint albums or
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: join projects, I feel like it is crazy that you
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: and Ross have not done an entire body of.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Work, you know what, Me and him and Max was
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: shooting his single the other day. He got a single
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: coming out like next week, if I'm not mistaken, and
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: I was thinking that was like, Yo, this chemistry is crazy.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: You guys have made classics together.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: I'm like, maybe we should, we should, We should probably
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: get in there with Rose and doing that would be crazy.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: But first let me getting me and Max joint out
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: the way then, but that would be crazy.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: Me and Ross got so many joints.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Do you guys have a lot of stuff that we've
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: never heard they're just sitting sitting around on hard drives
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: or yeah, definitely first, Yeah, for sure. I think that
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: Marble Floors is like one of those underrated.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, Marble floors.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, obviously, state, I mean, you got me.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: Straight off the boat.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Do you remember when nobody to somebody like that that
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: joint crazy?
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Do you remember when you cut the State Scheming hook?
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Did you realize how big of a anthem that was
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: going to be? It's like a forever song.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: Nah, I didn't.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: I didn't realize it because I didn't really actually like
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: the beat. No, that was actually a rose pick minees
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: was straight off the boat.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: I was sold in on straight off the boat.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Of course when Ross picked that beat and he just
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: came on, he was like, all right for my nick dog.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: It seems like it to me, it didn't seem like
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: a big record because it didn't have because that at
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: that time it was the Lex Luga era and it
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: was and it was the horns, and it was that vibe.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: So I'm like, and he and he and he was
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: fresh off you know.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Uh, being mad, being mad all that ship.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: So it was that sound. That's why I straight off
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: the boat sound like that, because I remember I took
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: I took Alex Luga whole hall drive and I had
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: like every beat that he had on one of my computers.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: I can't find it. Yeah, but I told lex Luga that,
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: I said, I took. I don't know where I took
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: it from, but I took it. So I didn't really
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: believe in that record state schema. But when Rose did
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: the hook, I did my hook, I did my verse.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: But the person I saw the potential on that record
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: is Drake. Drake came in and heard the tape and
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: he told Rose. He was like, this is the one,
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: because Drake thing is always like where's the hook?
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: This is my thing too. You know what I'm saying,
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: where's the hook? Where's the hook?
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Because the fastest somebody could hit the hook is the
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: faster you haven't hit. So Drake was just like, this
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: the one, because remember that this one got a double hook.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: He does, yeah, and sometimes you don't even realize it.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: So that one goes for like eight bars, then my
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: part go for eight bars, then the verses come. You
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: got a hook that's bigger than the verses, so you
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: got an automatic hit.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: And then he just delivered with that callback line that
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: But Rose delivered with the I don't want to go
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: to court?
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, fuck it off the opening. So now you got
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: two hooks.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Then you got the first four bars that's even bigger
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: than the two hooks.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Then and then you're you know, it's crazy because you
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: your verse like never gets played, It never gets that far.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. That's the club and they get
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: to the third verse to take a ship.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: But that's that.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: But that's the trick. That's the trick in the music.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: When I was coming up, they're like, yo, do not
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: never get the last verse. Don't never get the last verse.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: But you had to. You had the hook though, So it's.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: Like, I'm not I'm not an ego person.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: I'm in the studio, but that Kobe, Kobe, you know,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: in the gym.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, not crazy?
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: What what? What was? What? Can you tell me the
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: story what happened with the Splash Brothers record and how
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: he didn't end up on it.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: Splash Brother's record.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: The Splash Brothers version with Drake on it.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's a LEASD version. But the Splash Brother's
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: record never came out with Drake because the version that
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: we had with Drake it had a a verse from
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Rose that I didn I think I think Drake was
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: waiting for another verse from Rose that for that record.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: I think he wanted him to cut another verse because
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: something happened, either he said something on the first verse
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: or something had happened, and he was just like, hey,
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: I'm down, but yeah, I'm down, but I switch up this.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: But it was supposed to be a state scheming a
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: part too, oh ship. So that was that was the
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: whole thing. When Drake sent me, send me Splash Brothers.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Drake actually sent it to me.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: For his album.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Oh So Splash Brothers was Drake's song, and Drake sent
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: it to me. He was like, yo, go in the studio,
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: make like three different hooks and let me pick the
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: best one. So I went in there. I did like
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: three different hooks on it. I sent it to Drake.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: He heard it.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: He was like, all right, this is the one. So
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, you like that one?
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: He was like all right. So we went in there.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: He cut it, he changed a few words that he
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: wanted me to say. He sent it back, so I
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: went in and I cut the hook. I sent it
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: to him. He did his verse first, so it was
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: my hook and his verse. And by the time I
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: flew out to see him in Bahamas, he already had
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: rose verse two. But he was like it was like
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: something Rose had said some it was something with the verse.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: So it's supposed to be for Drake album. I think
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: it was, if I'm not mistaken the album after the.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Views, it's probably uh fuck, I don't know. They all
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: did the last seven years of rap. It's all blended
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: together for me, especially when it comes to hist.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all like one day.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but it was supposed to be for his album,
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: and since Ross didn't do the verse on time, he
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: was like, you want the record?
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: I was like, I take it.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So it was never something like it was mine's
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: and it was just like, you know, he just he
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: just gave me the record from my album.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: Well, I hope you get the game. The band back
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: together one day, because all three of y'all together is like.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like the Warriors happened.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: It's like the Golden State Warriors.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Brother brothers always fighting and makeup.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: Man, it happened. Nobody got shot, nobody, nobody died, nobody.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm curious, man, you've somehow wrote this line
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: that I don't think you could really say anybody else has.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: But where you are, you're like a mainstream superstar worldwide.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: You have like well was that? No? No, I'm saying like
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: you you you have like this weird cultural significance in
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: so many worlds that not a lot of rappers can say.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: And when I say that, I mean you could do
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: a record with Mac Miller in twenty twelve, or you
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: can have West Side Gun on your album, or you
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: could do a record like Riza with DJ Premiere on yeah. Yeah,
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: but then you have like unforgettable.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: So it's like you live in this like you occupy
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: a very unique space where you're.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: I was never locked into a box.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: But you're like an underground rapper still dog, which I
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: mean that respectful the store at the fucking like bro
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: with the with the with the boombap ship though.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: But this is what I'm saying, that's that's that's why
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: I started from. I just feel like New York. It
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: was something that I hated about New York and being
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: a New York artist. They want you to believe you
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: got to have a certain sound to be from New York,
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: and and it keeps you in New York. You know
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Anybody in New York gonna give you
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: that sound. That's in New York. That sound does not
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: pass Philadelphia, DC. That sound doesn't go up past Boston.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, It doesn't. I've been I've
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: been in the West Coast for how long. We probably
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: got the only record from a New York artist in
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: LA right now. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So, unless
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: unless it's Cardi and Cardi, music does not sound like no, no.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: You're right, Cardis, to be fair, she's the exception. Yeah, Cardi,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: we're playing like three songs on but Cardy came after
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: me and Max and Bodak. To be clear, Bodak Yellow
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: is not a New York traditional song, and that's the
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: record to change for life.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: This is what I'm saying.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: So Carti came up listening to to us, listening to
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: people from New York. That actually made a difference to
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: to say, oparate yourself from the pack that's coming out
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: of New York because they don't leave in New York.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Rocky did a good job with that too.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Rocky.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: You know, I think after after after my gym, like
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: when we came out, me and Max, I think, you know,
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: for Max starting to harmonize the music, and and and
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: for me because.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: I blew up down south.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Yes, even though I had shot Caller, I still couldn't
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: pass the East coast.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: So I had to go down south.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: And and and and drop the chop of chopp of
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: downs and and drop the pop that and dropped it.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: Ain't worry about nothing.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: And you know what I'm saying, Man, ain't worry about nothing.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: I got. I got my bootleg cav custom. You did.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Ain't worry about nothing.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. So so so I had to
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: get panic.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: You got so many joints. Dog is crazy. Your catalog's
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: fucking crazy.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Then I had to come to the to the West
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: coast and do don't panic, give y'all a sound on
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: me and back mustard. So it kind of I kind
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: of catered to every to every place with its own
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: sound and gave them what they knew until they knew me.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: At a high level too, I gave them what they
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: knew until they know.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: You still do like the boombab ship, Yeah, still have
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: like West Side Gun on a project, or work with
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Bennie or yeah. I just think it's I just don't
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: think there's a lot of people who could say, like, yeah,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: I've worked with this person, this person, this person. Like
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: you're a ven diagram of all the artists you've work.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: It's so wide, That's.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: What I'm saying.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: You always gott to feed the streets. Yeah, and make
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: sure what if right now? I didn't have no business
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: doing the mixtape, me and Max B, but we did
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: it because we gotta feed the streets.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: I had no no, no, no business still dropping mixtakees,
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: but I still do it because we got to feed
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: the streets.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: What do you think is your most slept on song?
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Slept on like a single or a record that you
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: felt like could have been bigger but it was a
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: little slept on.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: Sanctuary?
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: Okay, Sanctuary is hard.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Sanctuary definitely Famous.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Oh there's an album cut I loved. Uh you had
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: the video on World Star. Uh double Want My Soul,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Want My Soul. That's another one. That video was crazy.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: That's another one. So eighty eight coops. Yeah, me and
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: Kiss Damn. What's another record?
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: But for sure Sanctuary and Famous because I think Famous
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: came after Unforgettable and it was such a big record
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: that Unforgettable just moved everything out the way.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Do you still like, uh, have a lot of communication
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: with ya. Obviously, I feel like, yeah, he's been so
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: locked in with you for so long. Yeah, it was
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: on last well not last year, because yeah, and she's five.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: What's that?
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I say, I forget Yeah yeah, Mac and she's five. Yeah, no,
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: shot the y Man, Me and him and Max actually
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: got a crazy record.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I mean you helped Max get on
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: the Life of Pablo.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, sixteen Yeah, because I remember, yeah, yeah, yeah I did.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: And you remember that.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Actually remember that because as soon as I sent them
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: the record that me and him in Max doing, he
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: didn't even questioned it.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: He was just like, I already know what it.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Is that's coming out soon.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh fire coming out. Let me not give no date.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: But soon. So right now, Cochoid three point five is
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: just the warm up. It's the appetizer.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the appetizer.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: It's the appetizer to the entree.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: So Max is dropping his tape on the twenty fifth
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: of this month that we then were coming three weeks
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: after that.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: Well, I tape, it's done already.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: It's very hard to find like the level of like
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: loyalty you guys have shown each other over the years
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: because a lot of times people they go away, they
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: sit down and like, you know, yeah, but it just
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: feels like y'all's bond is so strong man like it's
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: like a brotherhood at this point between you.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: It's just just friends being friends and just being broadcast
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: to the world. I feel like, you know, I feel
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: like we just we're just doing what we're supposed to
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: do and just everybody gets.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: To watch it.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: What's the first thing you either did with max By
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: or showed him, Like someone gets out of jail, they've
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: been locking up. You got to kind of show him
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: some cool shit, like uh yeah, like yo, let me
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: show you Grand theft Ato five yeah, or look, yo,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: check this out. There's a state called only fans. Do
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: you remember that short you went to high school with?
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: Look her Pussy's here for fourteen nine a month, Like
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know, Like what do you show?
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: I took him in Tousy's.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Did you get him the deep Rid Lost tal Yeah?
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and the show.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: The shoulderrub By the Ways has great food and the
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: show The Rugs Shoulder Rubs. Tousy's my favorite strip club
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: in the world. I love him there, Oh you like, hey,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you situated. I'm out.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: I loved them there my dad as managers looking at
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: me like why why.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's that's the Uh, that's that's fresh off
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: the boat central right there. Yeah, have the girls in
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: there and you got to pull out Google.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: I don't even think Tutsi's was around eighteen years probably,
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: I don't think it was like on though. Even if
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: it was now it's different, so.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: He never experienced it. Yeah, so it was for the
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: first time. I feel like, you know, that was something.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: That he going.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: You don't remember for sure on the come out for you,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: you got engaged recently, Yeah, yeah, is that something for you?
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Like I saw you spend a million dollars on the
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: engagement ring.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: I'm not supposed to be talking about things like that.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: It's just it just got it just got out there.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm just curious, like, is it like a like
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: the ring shopping process for you? Is it stressful because
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: I got my shots of my wife, I got hurt,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: but I was stressed out for like four months trying
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: to find his fucking ring.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's kind of like you know, when you
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: buy something for somebody that that have everything and seen
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: everything and can get anything they want. You kind of
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: like want to be specific and have your own details
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: and make it unique, make it, make it meaningful. Right,
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: So I just ask people that knew about that stuff,
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: and I added my own flavor to it, and they
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: kind of did a lot of listening to it. You know,
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: that's important with the person like and just you know, definitely.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I took I feel like shopping and engagement rings
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: one of those stressful things ever. And then I ordered
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: my ship from New York and I had a specific
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: day I was supposed to propose, and that ship didn't
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: come until the day before. I was fucking stressing. Yeah,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: I was like, bro, shout out to the New York
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: Jewelry District. What's the Diamond district? Diamond District?
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: Who got it from?
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: What's I didn't get it from the dude who just
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: crashed out what's the d his name and just crashed
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: out the Jewish bruh tracks. That dude's fucking hilarious. That's
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: the dude from gems. Yeah got from no fuck no, yo,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: you you I saw you, you know, And I think
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: it's important. Man. We're living in like a pretty crazy
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: political spectrum. But I saw obviously, you know, advocating for
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: for what's going on in Palestine and Gaza and ship
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: like that. Why is that important for you to be
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: vocal about when a lot of people aren't.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: I love to stay out the politics, right, you know
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying. But I just feel like, you know,
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: when I off kids and mothers and this and that,
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: it just hurt to see.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. And for you, like being an
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: immigrant or family immigrants, like is it like the ice
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: shit that's going on right now is wild?
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: Bro?
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: Man, I mean not just that it's coming from having
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: a brother that got deported, you know, having a brother
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: that got deported, and also just being in the shoes
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: of being an immigrant because a lot of people don't
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: understand about being an immigrant is you're already isolated as
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: an alien, right, You already doesn't have all the privilege
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: that everybody else have. You already can't go to school
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: because you can't get your papers, so you can't get
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: no scholarships. You already can't get a job because you
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: don't have a Social Security and no health benefits, no nothing.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: You're already can't do anything that US citizen can do.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: So you are you are in a four by four
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: jail cell, even though if you're out here in the world,
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: so the only jobs you can get is jobs that
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: under the table, ship under the table, which you know
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: you're not even making one hundred dollars in two days
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: whatever that is. So it's a struggle. It's a struggle
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: for immigrants all around America on how it is so
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: for me to see people that grew in the struggle
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: and and and immigration and made something out of theirselfs
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: and have kids and this and that, and have a family, businesses, businesses,
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: and and some some people even forgot their native language
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: because they've been here so long and they don't even
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: have nobody back home. So to see somebody just snatch
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: that person out of their house and send them back to.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Place a lot of a lot of people get sent
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: back that been here to their babies, since we're sending
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: them to a place that they don't even.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: So, so that's that that's the part that you know,
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: that's that's really hurtful to.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: See for somebody who's kind of like been kind of
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: a political over the years. Is that the kind of
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: shit you see that like kind of like, like, man,
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: maybe I should speak out more or yet a little
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: bit more engaged.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: YEA, yeah, of course, man.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: I mean as far as the immigration is because as
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: a personal.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: It's a personal thing for sure. Yeah. So it's a
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: personal thing when it comes to that.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: So because because I've been through it my you know,
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: my mother was an immigrant, my father. My father got
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: deported first and my brother after. So I was able
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: to get my papers through the you know, through the
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: cracks and ended up begetting my mother had papers, you know,
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: So I come from a long long list of immigrants.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: What are if you could give me your top four
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: nineteen nineties hip hop albums of all time nineties nineties
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: only it was written, Okay, I like that choice.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: By the way it was written, I kind of like
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: it was written better than Ellmatic if I say, it.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: Does get overshadowed because it came after omadic damn affirmative action.
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, affirmative action, all of them. Jesus, yeah, all of them.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: Not even just that was fake Doug. No love gets
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: number The message is one of the best rap raps.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: One of the best and also one of the best
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: just rapid.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, so I think it was Rand
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: better than Ellmatic.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: That's just you know, I respect it. You can say,
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: everybody in the comments with what was yall pick?
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: I picked? It was Rand Life After Death?
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: All eyes on me?
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: All right? Double disc to double disc, back to back,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: double disc.
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: I'm on, I'm onto something right.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: I would love to say Doggy Style, but I was
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: on the East Coast. So I think that Wu Tang
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: Forever album had a bigger fact.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: I got an autograph right there by ghost Face sitting
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: right there on top of it.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was. I think it was a
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: moment for that Wu Tang.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Forever nineteen ninety seven. Yeah, people have been waiting so
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: long for the follow up to thirty. We got solo
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: albums before we had the tape in between.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: I think it was like.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: A human man in between between.
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I think that would be that would be my
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: four right there.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: Who's your favorite rapper from a fans perspective? In Wu
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: Tang from a fans I think they all made one.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: But what I'm saying like like, I'm a ghost Face guy. Yeah,
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: but I feel like when I was a little kid,
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: I was a methand man, guy.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: I like, I like him all different in certain songs
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: like I was in love with Jizz and certain songs.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: It's just the Deck low Key got some of the
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: hardest verses of all time. What I'm saying, Triumph verse.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: So if you listen to Triumph, there's no way you're
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: gonna pick anybody besides inspect the Deck just the way
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: he came on. If you listen to Cream, you're gonna
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: be like, Okay, met the man.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, and and and know both
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: of them.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, it just depends. Man A ghosts of course,
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: shot the ghost is my god.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: Rakkwan.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Liquid Swords is uh probably in my opinion, like
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: we always hear about like Purple Tape or like Supreme Client,
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: Liquid Swords might be the best solo album that's and
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: one of the best covers ever. Yeah that cover is crazy.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah hell yeah, Yo, Yeah, incredible. So Max is projects
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: dropping and then you and Max, Yeah, the album's coming,
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah what about your album?
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: Right after that?
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: Right after that you've been on this crazy run. The
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: movie came out, you had a movie that was written.
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, movie just came out last year for Kadija. Yeah,
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: executive produced by Brother Drake.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: What is it that still you're already successful? Man? I
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: always wondered this, Like when someone gets to a certain
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: point of success and you're still dropping mixtapes and you're
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: still grinding with what is it that is like the
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: inspiration that keeps you going like and keeps the work
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: ethics still.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: Just because man, just just because there's there's still some
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: people out there that still doubt us. There's there's still
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: some people out there that don't that don't know that's fresh,
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: and there there's some people out there that we gotta
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: remind and there's some people out there that don't know yet.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: Does proving people wrong matter to.
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: You my whole life?
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: Like? Do you do you? Do you read the comments
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: and ship? Like if someone says some ship does it?
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: Does that do you? Cause you know, you saw Michael
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: Jordan in the Dance talk about how all he needed
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: was to hear a little something somebody said on the
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: other team and he would put that ship in the tank. Crazy.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, right right now, I think it's it's a
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: trend of of of people think that they got to
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: talk to you crazy to get some type of attention.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: So I just feel like.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: When you when I came from Africa when I was
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: when I was a kid, and I went to the Bronx,
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: which was my biggest test of my life, you know,
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: because I went.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: I went to the mecca of hip hop.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: So where I went, you talked about like going to
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: like where soccer started, and you talked about you wanted
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: to play soccer. You know what I'm saying, like going
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: to Brazil or going to like Argentina that when Maradona
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: was there, like or just so when I went, it
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: was just like big Pun down the street, Fat Joe here,
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: Slick Rick here, krs One here, you got everybody You're like, ya,
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: I want to be a rapper. You're like where you're from,
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: like Africa, you don't even speak English. It was just
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: like it was something that's like in your mind, You're like,
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: how the fuck am I gonna make it and rap
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: in the Bronx not knowing English?
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: How about this?
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: How about before that even in Africa, telling somebody in Africa, Yo,
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go to the Bronx. I'm gonna go to
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: New York. I'm gonna be this fucking rap star. People
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: looking at you like this, this guy, how right?
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: Right. So it's like, delusion is key to success.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: You gotta believe it before everybody else.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: Man, know, you gotta be delusional. You gotta be out
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: of your mind. You gotta be out of your mind.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: People gotta be like this fucking guy's out of his mind,
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: because you're only out of your mind until that shit
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: really happens, until you're not.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. Being delusional is a very important
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: key to success.
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: Being delusional a very important key to success.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: You gotta buy into your ship and a delusional fashion
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: to get the world to buy into it.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: Loo, I'm telling you gotta tell somebody tomorrow I'm gonna
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: fly with no airplane.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: My fuck.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: Look at you crazy until you figure it out.
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: Until you figure that motherfucker out.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: You had a great relationship with Takeoff. Obviously, I remember
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: seeing you guys on Chris Was it Chris kidding you? Migos? Yeah, O,
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: my god, I saw that they Obviously, four years of
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: his death just passed. What was you know, give us
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: a little bit. Obviously you've lost a lot of people
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: close to you in the music.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean shot the Quavo shot to the
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: whole Migos. I mean it was always us. It was
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: me Chinks and there was always Quaver and Takeoff together
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: because I'm offset was locked up so and Max.
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: B was locked up.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: So we was they they first video they first looked.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: I flew out there to Atlanta to do with them.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: It was like their first song whatever it is. I
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: don't know if it's the first time. It was like
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: one of the like one of they singles went out there,
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: didn't charge no money, this and that, you know what
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: I'm saying.
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: It was just coming up. I ain't even you know.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: So ever since then we just grew a bond, you
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, So us growing in the game together.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: Then seeing them lose the Takeoff and I lost Chinks,
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: So it was kind of like of a of a
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: similar thing, you know what I'm saying.
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: But Quave up into the crib. You know. We went
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: and toured together. It was always.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: That that, you know, that brotherhood between us. So take
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: Hof was definitely somebody that we used to always joke around,
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: always have fun with, you know, especially on tour.
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: We got a lot of music together.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: Di That tour was legendary but crazy. I remember that
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: was the tour in Tampa Florida. I met Sni Lathan.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: Am I fucking crazy? I was?
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: She came on the tour bus and she was like, yeah,
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: I want to go to a couple of dates on
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: the tour bus and she can't go.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: What's crazy is you remember like that was the year
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: that was like the Fettiwop year.
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and did a tape album together at that time too.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: But what's crazy is I remember giving away tickets on
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: the radio at the time, and I'm like, I got
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: Chris Brown tickets, but everybody was calling and they were like, no,
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: we want the fetti Wop tickets, and yeah, no, but
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: Chris Brown is his everybody That fetti Wop sixteen month
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: run will be studied forever. My god, that motherfucker had
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: a run smoking and he went on relatively early on
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: that tour, yeah, because I think like kid Ink went
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: on late.
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: It was just like we're not link back of that tour.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: It just had the star power. And then you were
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: coming out on people's sets. Yeah.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was coming out. Me and Chris had.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: Moses crazy Yeah, and uh so we used to come
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: out and migos used to come out.
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: I used to do a couple of records. Yeah, we
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: was all on that tour.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: It was dope. How much because I know you obviously
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: you got Chinks on this new album or this mixtape.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: How much more Chinks music?
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: Well just you know, we at the end of it,
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: but we just keep finding records. Right before we were about
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: to put out, somebody would call up, like, yo, I
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: just found this record with Chinks. The Chinks used to
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: be like a just like a studio animally just stay
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: in there. So there's a bunch of music probably stood
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: out there.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So it's like as it comes, you'll be like,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: all right, we got to put this out. Yeah, what
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: is I saw you recently talk about Unforgettable? Obviously not
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: making any money off of it, Yeah, because obviously there's
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: so many writers the sample, I mean, on and on. Yeah,
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: I'm sure, but I'm curious. You've been through so many
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: different situations in music, so many different deals with the
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: bad boys, shit, the Gamma ship. You know, what is
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: a piece of advice you would give to an artist
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: that's just kind of getting into this game seriously, Like
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe like somebody who's on the newer side,
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: that's that's got some motion right now.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: Advice that I would give an artist save your money
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: so it could save you.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: That's that's number one.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: Definitely get some capital because as much as much information
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: you know about the game or whatever game you do,
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: you're not going to be able to change change your
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: circumstances unless you have enough money, yeah to change it,
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So everybody want to be independent,
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: but who's willing to put the bag up? Like right
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: now we're independent. I'm like three hundred thousand on.
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: One record on.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: The new record.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah that's one record. I'm not even talking about the
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: whole tape. So you gotta you gotta have you know
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: You gotta have your money.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: So when you're because you're the type of guy who
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: if you wanted to find a deal, you can find
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: a deal. Like there's there's a record deal out there
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: right now for French mind dat.
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah one million.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: Why you've done something, You've been doing independent stuff for
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: a while, Like I feel like the cookeoy shit would
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: be dependent on the side, Like what is it about
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: being independent that entices you? Right now?
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, look, labels, they had artists, development, they had
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: all this, so you so for a new artist, Also,
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: there's nothing wrong with signing with a label because you
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: could use their marketing money and all this budget and
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: this and that so you can become the superstar, grow
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: your fan base. The whole game is about data. You
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: collect data and use the data, you know what I'm saying,
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: to your advantage. But when you become a certain type
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: of artists like like me or like you know, like
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: whoever ross or you know, anybody got a name.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: Like even like someone like where's Khalifa? Where's has been
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: doing shit independently?
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: Exactly, yeah, exactly, So there's there's a lane for that,
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. There's a lane for that,
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: and you don't need the label at that time because
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: the label done their job. All fairness to them, because
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: there's nothing there's nothing against the labels because when you
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: give them the music, even though they kept your masters
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: did all this, you still eat off the merriage. You
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: still eat off a distribution, you know. You know, there's
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: a lot of things until they came u with three
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: sixty deals and then that's what's like a hold on
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: now and now you're overdoing it. But until you get
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: your capital, you should not worry about your masses until
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: you get enough money in your pocket that you can
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: give your music the fear marketing, the fear promotion, the
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: fear look for yourself. Don't just get too smart for
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: yourself and just drop music independent with no money.
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: Then it's like, you know.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a must I use the machine. And then if
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: it makes sense and that's run in catalogs independently.
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: And that's when it makes sense.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: When it'd be like, you know, ten percent of of
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: a fucking watermelon is better than one hundred percent of
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: a grape of a great you know what I'm saying.
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: So it's just like, mak it, make your money.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: Do you enjoy running point on your ship now where
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: it's like yeah, I.
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: Love it, Yeah, I love it because you know what
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: it is when you run point. You want to do
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: it because it all comes back to you and for
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: your kids. And you leave it, you're leaving the legacy behind,
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. When somebody be like, oh,
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: you got to do Boolet cav right, you would a label,
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: you were like, damn, I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: go viral cav And and everything's gonna go back to
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: this music that goes back to the lake. So even
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: though you're my guy, I'm standing, I'm be sitting here
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: with a chip on my shoulder.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: It here, I don't want to and they have nothing
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: to do with you. All fairness, that's some real ship
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: makes sense, you know what I'm saying. At that point,
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: it kind of feels like a job.
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: Like all finners.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: Now, I'll look forward, can do whatever, even if I'm tired.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: I'm doing this because, uh, this is going through back
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: to the same.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: Pop random question. Uh, let's exclude yourself and anybody in
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: the coke boys. Uh the greatest cocaine rappers of all time?
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: Give me five ross okay, jay Z all right, hey listen,
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: very slept on coke wrapper.
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, he talked. That's all jay Z.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: Three six Mafia, okay. Have I was gonna say, they're
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: more of more of the consuming of the cocaine.
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Look, you gotta be specifical with your questions.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: Drug dealers or drug or cocaine using spelling cocaine, so
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: not not not doing cocaine and half on the sack
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: on some blow they purchasing.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: They were doing a lot of they were doing every he.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: Got half on the sack. All right, you know what,
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: let's let's let's keep them to the side. Ja ja
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: we got Ross, Jay, we got Ross.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: Hm hmm, there's a really obvious one that's hanging above
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: my head to the right.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Clips, of course, yeah, Clips, I was, but
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: I was, but I'm still trying to think of like
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: said Gucci, geez, that's that's that's.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: The snow man man, That's that's what I was trying
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: to go, pimps, pimp too. Yeah, jeeze, the snowman now,
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, come on, man, that's every where fucking snowman
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: t shirts. Yeah, which is yeah, which is Uh. Did
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: you ever run in any issues with Coca Cola pushing
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: coke boys? No, just a random question.
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: No, because coke stands for creation of kings everywhere.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: We should do the diet coke Boys. Yeah, for everybody
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: trying to get in shape. Yeah, the aspartame boys. That's
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: why the idea though, just like, hey, yo, the fucking
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: diet Coke Boys is like the workout player, the French workout.
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: Players, trying to tell you that's for rehab.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: All right, So Max b album coming in the next
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: few weeks.
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, on on on the twenty fifth, a million dollar
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: Baby Max b album coming, and and the and the
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: and the March first second week of April.
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: Our project coming.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: And that's the project that yas on.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, as a project gay On Ross is on. Maybe
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: that's it, you know, the first project we didn't have no.
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: Features on it.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: Is this going to be all metro booming or.
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: Is this there's gonna be everybody okay?
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but then there's still a metro booming thing that's
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: gotta happen.
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the only we're working on.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: And then Harry Frog thing got it, yeah, Harry frol Yeah,
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: yeah man. And then your album's.
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: Gonna be cooking. My album coming right after this one.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: And you ain't lying when you when it's your ship,
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: you're like, Yo, you're putting You're putting fucking music out
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: like your MASI right now. Of course, of course, Bro French,
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you pulling up. Thank you so much. I
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: promise you I'm not gassing you. The fucking album is incredible,
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: Thank you, bro, I appreciate it. Yeah.
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: I mean you're a hip hop head, so I already know.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: I posted it a few times on my story. I'm like, Yo,
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: we gotta start talking about this French album like that.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: It's crazy.
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: Thank you, bro.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so congrats on on delivering with your boy, and
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: I look forward to, uh, the rest of the year.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: I know it's gonna be a busy one man, big
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: one French. My dog appreciate you better, yes, sir, Come
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: on man, come on fire.