Latest / The Wes Carroll Morning Show / Trump Indicted in GA with 18 Others
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- 0:06You're listening to The West Carroll Morning Show. Wednesday morning, sixteenth day
- 0:11of August. I'm Wes, thanks for joining me. I think I mentioned
- 0:18that I've been a little under the weather. I may not have mentioned it
- 0:20on this show, but on another show, one of the podcasts I do,
- 0:26and finally starting to feel little bit more like myself. Here's to that
- 0:30continuing. It's been a long, ongoing thing and hopefully we're coming out of
- 0:36it. And I appreciate if I've sounded a little off my game. I
- 0:42appreciate you guys sticking with me and a little encouragement along the way with the
- 0:47people I told that I wasn't feeling well and it's not fun. It's not
- 0:50fun trying to talk when you don't feel well. I do understand that it's
- 0:55different when you're talking versus having to go do what I would call like,
- 1:00you know work. You know people that have to go outside and they heat
- 1:07when they're sick, or they have to do you know, jobs where they're
- 1:10around a lot of people and they have to do manual laborer they have to
- 1:15be around, you know, serving food and things that that's all I call
- 1:19those like real jobs. What I do is certainly within a certain skill set.
- 1:26I understand that, so I don't discount what I do in that regard,
- 1:32but it's not real like work, if that makes sense. So I've
- 1:38been but it's still like there are challenges when you got to talk, That's
- 1:41all I'm saying. So I've been trying to put the best shows forward that
- 1:45I can in spite of the fact that i've been out of it. I'm
- 1:47gonna try to do it today. We'll see how I go for the next
- 1:51half hour. We'll see how we go. Okay, So yesterday it became
- 1:57official in the middle of the night, and I did not talk about her
- 2:00on the show yesterday because I had a few reasons, and I'm not going
- 2:02to talk a lot about it today. I don't think we'll see once I
- 2:07get going. Sometimes I can't help myself. But it happened officially, and
- 2:12I've been talking about the fact that it was coming. We knew it was
- 2:14coming, especially when they oops, we accidentally posted that we've made a decision
- 2:20on this Trump indictment in Georgia before the decision was made. That should tell
- 2:24you something right there that ought to tell you a lot that they hadn't made
- 2:29a decision yet, but they posted that the decision was made or whatever,
- 2:32whatever all that was, I don't know. So the latest Trump indictment has
- 2:38happened, number four, no reason to think they're gonna stop. I'm pretty
- 2:42sure I heard the rumors at least as a fifth wind coming and that when
- 2:47circulates around a story about when Trump was in elementary school that he ate boogers,
- 2:53and if they can, you know, they don't really need a lot
- 2:57of evidence in this case. They just need just maybe, you know,
- 3:02some speculation if he ever said anything that would suggest that he's covering up the
- 3:07fact that at some point he ate boogers. I guess. I mean,
- 3:10I don't know where all of this eventually goes, but you know, if
- 3:16they can get him for that, they'll get him for it. Because quite
- 3:20frankly, when it comes to the twenty twenty four election and you're looking at
- 3:23a stage and you're looking at a candidate who doesn't have an indictment for eating
- 3:29boogers versus a candidate that does have an indictment for eating boogers, well clearly
- 3:35you're gonna go with the candidate with no indictment for eating boogers, right,
- 3:39That's just the logical way. It's the logical way to go with this.
- 3:45This just makes sense. It all makes sense. So they're piling it on,
- 3:49and they're piling it on deep. This one in George is a little
- 3:52different than the others for a few reasons. And they really they did a
- 3:55big, old giant net in this one, and Trump and eighteen others in
- 4:01this indictment. They've gotten into the Rico case where they you know, it's
- 4:05you get one person on a felony, and everybody involved in it, you
- 4:09can get them all on it. So that's what they're going for. So
- 4:13part of why I wanted to wait yesterday is I wanted time to look through
- 4:17all the names that were involved in this. I needed to see all the
- 4:21names because I needed to see how many people on there that I know that
- 4:26was That was the issue that was at the top for me, is I
- 4:30just didn't know how many of the people that were going to be indicted were
- 4:33people that i've I know, I've spoken to. And then once I got
- 4:40an assessment of that later in the day yesterday, I'm more comfortable talking about
- 4:44this, okay, because there are some people whose names have been getting brought
- 4:47up over the last couple of years, and you just you don't know,
- 4:50you don't know where it's gonna have, what's gonna happen, Who's gonna be
- 4:54roped into this. If you're curious for the final official count, it's two.
- 5:00And that's that's all. Say. There's just two on there that I
- 5:05know or I have interviewed or spoken with or whatever. So there's two out
- 5:10of the nineteen if you count the president. I've talked to his sons,
- 5:15I've talked with his daughter in law. I've talked with many people in his
- 5:20you know, advisors and people in his cabinet. I've spoke with various secretaries
- 5:28in his cabinet when he was in the White House. I haven't spoken actually
- 5:32with Trump yet, so I won't count him in this group. Out of
- 5:38the eighteen others, is two, all right, So that's the number I
- 5:42got. So here we go. The latest. This is another one that
- 5:48just piles on all the others. Is it going to be eventually a point
- 5:53where something breaks with the potential middle of the road voters. Is this going
- 5:59to be the case. They say that this is a strong case that they
- 6:03have built for the accusations of election fraud and trying to steal the election.
- 6:12So I'm looking at this from yesterday as the former president posted that a large,
- 6:24complex, detailed but irrefutable report on the presidential election fraud which took place
- 6:27in Georgia's almost completely presented by me at a major news conference eleven am on
- 6:31Monday next week, Bedminster, New Jersey. Based on the results of this
- 6:36conclusive report, all charges should be dropped against me and others. There will
- 6:42be a complete exoneration. They never went after those that rigged the election.
- 6:46They only went after those that fought to fight the rigors. This message post
- 6:54on social media was followed up by one from our governor. Brian Kemp had
- 6:59this to say about Trump's post for the twenty twenty election in Georgia was not
- 7:05stolen. For nearly three years now, anyone with evidence of fraud has failed
- 7:10to come forward under oath and prove anything in a court of law. Our
- 7:14elections in Georgia are secure, accessible and fair and will continue to be as
- 7:18long as I am governor. The future of our country is at state.
- 7:23In twenty twenty four and that must be our focus. So I don't know
- 7:30how much of this election fraud in Georgia would still be a topic if not
- 7:39for the accusations and the indictments against Trump and the nineteen others. So I'm
- 7:45sorry, eighteen others, nineteen totals. So this is a case of it
- 7:48feels like it has caused a rehash of this topic to come up again,
- 7:54which I think Governor Kemp rightly so needed to say what he said. I
- 8:01have talked with him many times since he well even before, back when he
- 8:07was Secretary of State and as governor, and he's been on this show,
- 8:13and I feel like one of the main points that he has tried to stress
- 8:22he and others within the state of Georgia is that the election process in Georgia
- 8:28is trustworthy. The election process in Georgia, at least now it is.
- 8:33They've done things to secure things, they've done things to make things give people
- 8:39more confidence in what's happening during the election. I know that there were concerns
- 8:46in twenty twenty. Okay, there absolutely were concerns, just like there's concerns
- 8:52I think in most elections when you hear stories about signatures not being matched properly,
- 8:58or you hear stories about people. I know someone who does not live
- 9:03in Georgia and has not for a long time, who was informed that someone
- 9:09attempted to vote on their behalf as an absentee in a county that this person
- 9:15has never even been to, much less lived there. Those are things that
- 9:18should cause concern, and I think it's a valid reason to say, well,
- 9:24what's going on here. We do have a number of cases where we've
- 9:31we've heard those stories in those incidents, and I was able to direct this
- 9:37person that I know to lawyers in the Trump White House back then, and
- 9:45they were part of some of this, this particular person. But now the
- 9:48reassuring part of this is the person I know was told, hey, we
- 9:52have this record that says that you tried to vote. We're curious about what's
- 9:56going on. They said, I didn't vote. I voted in the state
- 10:00where I live now, and apparently that vote was thrown out. So that
- 10:05was a case of there was an attempt at something fishery happening, and then
- 10:09the right thing ended up being taken care of apparently. So I agree with
- 10:16our governor and that we have to move forward and focus on twenty twenty four.
- 10:22There was talk and Trump was one of the main people that people that
- 10:24was doing this about the former a President Obama and his birth certificate and was
- 10:30he really an American and all those sorts of things. There's a very bad,
- 10:33very poor understanding of what constitutes someone being an American citizens. There's a
- 10:41lot of misconceptions about it. My wife came from Australia. My wife married
- 10:46me, she still had to file paperwork and go through a process to become
- 10:50an American citizen. It's not an automatic thing. Once you get married,
- 10:54it makes it easier, It certainly makes it easier, but it's not automatic.
- 10:58It's not like movies and you see that in movies. Yo, you're
- 11:01married, you get a green card. That's the whole reason some people get
- 11:03married. Does it make it easier, Sure, it makes it easier,
- 11:07but there's still a process involved in it. It's not automatic. So another
- 11:13thing that people just don't seem to understand. There were questions about an American
- 11:18woman having a child with a man from out of the country and whether or
- 11:26not that that child was born in Hawaii or not. It doesn't matter.
- 11:31The former president Obama's mother was an American citizen. That's it. That made
- 11:37him an American citizen period. That's an easy fix. There's all this talk
- 11:41that over the years about birth certificates and all that was silly. There's been
- 11:46talk about Ted Cruz, Oh, he was born in Canada with American parents.
- 11:52You just need one American parent, that's all that you need, and
- 11:54then you're an American citizen. This came up over the years, many times
- 12:00times with various people and John McCain born on a military base, but it
- 12:05wasn't in US soil. All those sorts of things, they're absurd. People
- 12:09just don't have the correct understanding of that kind of stuff. So there was
- 12:15talk about that during the Obama presidency, but whether or not he should stay
- 12:20and there came a point where you think, if this was a valid concern,
- 12:24it needed to be dealt with right after the election, before he was
- 12:28sworn into office, and even then that wasn't going to go well. We
- 12:33know that wasn't going to go well. So if there was a point where
- 12:37some were saying he lied, he should go to jail, that was not
- 12:41going to go well. Okay, we're seeing now examples of why when you
- 12:46bring charges against a former president, why it's not going well. The left
- 12:52seems to think it's going well, and they're giddy about it, and they're
- 12:54excited and they're so fired up about mug shots and prison time, which is
- 13:00absurd when you think about the fact that a former president would actually have to
- 13:03have secret service with him in prison, right, there'd have to be someone
- 13:09win him all the time in a cell. I don't know this. It
- 13:15gets really ridiculous when you think about where all of this could go. There
- 13:20was a point where I thought, well, there's no way that they're going
- 13:22to go that far with this, But now I think anything's possible. They
- 13:26just they want him out, and they want him out badly, And if
- 13:28they could figure out a way to get DeSantis out with him, I think
- 13:33they would be satisfied. I think that would be the ultimate win for them.
- 13:37And I don't know if they can figure out a way to lump all
- 13:39that together, but maybe they can. I don't know. I don't know
- 13:41what the realistic accomplishments that they can have from all of this with so I
- 13:48don't know the next step in this whole process for overall, for all of
- 13:54us as citizens is basically what's been laid out by our governor. The future
- 14:00of our country is at stake in twenty twenty four and that must be our
- 14:03focus. That sums it up well. Now. It's no secret that Governor
- 14:09Kemp and President Trump did not have a great relationship with one another, like
- 14:13through their entire tenure. Many thought there was no way Kemp could win reelection
- 14:18in Georgia without Trump support. He proved everyone wrong on that. So Kemp
- 14:24has earned the ability to make a statement like this without having to worry about
- 14:28reprisal from Trump supporters. He's earned it because he's already been there, he's
- 14:33already lived it, and he's already been true to who Brian Kemp is.
- 14:37And I say kudos to him for this statement. I think this is what
- 14:41he needed to do. And I think that whatever happens moving forward with a
- 14:48possibly more I don't know, I don't know how many more indictments could possibly
- 14:52come up, how many more could they lump into this because at some point
- 14:54they are just piling on. We know that they're just piling on. We
- 15:00know what they're trying to do to the former president, and ultimately they want
- 15:03to get him. I really don't even know that they want him out.
- 15:05I kind of feel like they want him in, but they want him so
- 15:09tainted by all of this that there's no possible way that people would vote for
- 15:13him. I do think that they're concerned if they got him completely out of
- 15:18the way, that someone like De Santis could could run away with this thing,
- 15:22and they'd be in a position where they'd be running a young De Santist
- 15:26or Tim Scott or I don't think Nicky Haley, but I don't know.
- 15:30I don't know who they're most afraid of. I guess they'd be afraid.
- 15:33I think of Haley to a point. I think they would. I think
- 15:37that they're they're concerned. There would be their concern that they've played many times
- 15:41before, which is no, no, no, the Republicans can't have that.
- 15:45We get it first. They would say they'd find a way. I
- 15:48guess. I mean, I would think that maybe if if just think of
- 15:54a hypothetical of Nicky Haley ended up being the candidate and won and beat Joe
- 15:58Biden had to head. Do you think that at some point in the month
- 16:03of January, right just in the month of January twenty twenty five before NICKI
- 16:10alias sworn in. Do you think that they wouldn't get Joe Biden to step
- 16:12down just so they could say, we got President Harris, we put the
- 16:19first ever woman in the White House as the president. We did that.
- 16:23Look what we did. A historic moment, and it's a person of color.
- 16:29Look what we did. It's a historic moment. You think they're not
- 16:32capable of that? It sounds silly, but do you think they're not capable
- 16:36of it? Joe Biden as a senator tanked two different people that George W.
- 16:42Bush was trying to push forward towards the Supreme Court. A black woman
- 16:47and a Hispanic man. Tanked their chances to move up through the courts because
- 16:52they can't have Republicans can't have this. They can't have a black woman or
- 16:57a Hispanic man being the first in the Supreme Court. They can't do that.
- 17:03We have to make sure that doesn't happen. That's us, that's our
- 17:06thing, that's our thing. They can't have it. So anything's possible.
- 17:11I know we're getting into some d hypotheticals and all of this, and I
- 17:15guess the upside would be at the very least if that was the way it
- 17:18played out. At least then we'd have President Nikki Haley coming in right to
- 17:22clean up whatever disaster happened. Pr disaster has happened in the days or weeks
- 17:30of a president Harris' term very short and sweet and out of there. But
- 17:34I don't know. I don't know. That's really getting into the weeds.
- 17:38Bottom line here is this they're piling on. We know that they're piling on,
- 17:44and we'll see whatever Trump has coming down the line. As Governor Kemp
- 17:52pointed out, no one's come forward with it yet. Where is it?
- 17:57Where's it been? Why have we not had any anyone come forward with it?
- 18:00Why is this something to sit on and wait on? These charges?
- 18:03I don't know. It's it's very confusing. But Trump pushed us forward.
- 18:10Trump continues to be Trump, and I don't know that they're going to be
- 18:14able to get him out of the race. And I don't know if these
- 18:19charges, these long series of charges, and any others that still might come,
- 18:23you know, other than maybe the booger one, I don't I don't
- 18:26know if the booger one's gonna happen. There's just talk of it. They've
- 18:30been talking with various folks from his elementary schools, a student council. Those
- 18:37people, you know, they're still apparently still serving. They've been they've been
- 18:41serving this whole time. They've kept them in office. They're in their seventies,
- 18:47they've been serving this whole time, just waiting for their What it does
- 18:52remind us, though, is the importance of the other elections we focus on.
- 18:59We focus on the presidential election, we focus on the votes that take
- 19:03place during those every four year elections. We do focus somewhat on those midterms,
- 19:10but it's important that we remember that the other ones are important too.
- 19:15All of the local ones, all of the ones for U district attorneys and
- 19:18judges and things, those are important, share local sheriffs, all of those
- 19:23things are important. They're important at and governors, They're important at every level.
- 19:30And it's important for people to how many times can I see important?
- 19:33I feel like I'm I'm serving in the Harris administration. But we have to
- 19:38we have to be aware. It's important that we take part in even those
- 19:45midterms, are those less high profile elections that take place. We have to
- 19:52make sure that our voices are heard because the left is that's the game that's
- 19:56the game that they're winning right now. That's the that's how all of this
- 19:59is happening against Trump. Folks on the right have been trying to fight against
- 20:03this, but not been doing it successfully in every state. And here we
- 20:07go, the next round of this has begun. Who knows if something's next
- 20:12down the line. At some point, maybe the overall case against the former
- 20:18president is going to rest, I suppose and just let the public decide,
- 20:23or they're going to be able to get him pushed out of the way and
- 20:26make way for a different candidate that they think maybe they could beat with a
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- 23:56DC Columbus dot com more Westcare Morning Show right after the break. Well,
- 24:10if you've ever asked a math teacher why you need to learn advanced math when
- 24:15you're never going to use it in real life, you're not alone. A
- 24:18new survey finding that the majority of parents agree and believe that kids should be
- 24:22learning math that will help them most in their lives, especially financial math.
- 24:27More than a third of parents survey worried that their kids that don't understand the
- 24:32value of a dollar. Eighty two percent said that they believe their children should
- 24:34be taught financial literacy and money management skills and schools, and it should start
- 24:40before kids become teenagers. Sixty four percent of parents say that they try to
- 24:45teach their kids about money at home by starting a piggy bank, comparing prices
- 24:49at stores, giving them allowances, and having real financial discussions with them.
- 24:57I've got kids that are really good at the advance maths, so we don't
- 25:00do a lot of why questioning with that because they may have math careers down
- 25:04the line. I see them probably both going into fields that will involve math.
- 25:11You know, they're they're pacing for stem careers. So that's not really
- 25:15but I do think there is a huge void for teaching about the daily skills,
- 25:22the things that we need to know and understand. I think just doing
- 25:27lessons on statistics. When it comes to what constitutes a long shot, I
- 25:37think explaining to kids in a very clear way exactly what the incredibly small odds
- 25:45are of winning the lottery is important. We have played the lottery in our
- 25:52home before as as as a family. The kids go, oh, my
- 25:55gosh, it's a billion dollars. We should buy a lottery ticket, and
- 25:59each time that we do that, we talk about the fact that there's almost
- 26:03no chance of winning. I mean, it's it's very, very small,
- 26:07and we make sure they understand that, but we try to also stress with
- 26:11them that we're gonna We're gonna pay two dollars just so we can have the
- 26:17fun of talking about, well, what would we do if we had it.
- 26:19We're giving two dollars to some kids college scholarship one day. That's maybe
- 26:26even our own. I don't know, but we we acknowledge that. It's
- 26:30like if you understand that when you go to a casino, you're you're going
- 26:36there to lose. That's what you're doing. So if you go and you
- 26:40say, well, I'm going to take like five hundred dollars and that's it.
- 26:44And if I lose my five hundred dollars, I'm done. I go
- 26:47home. If I win a thousand dollars and then I take my original five
- 26:52hundred and I just put it away, and then I've got five hundred.
- 26:56I can you know if I lose that, well, I'm right back where
- 26:59I started. Right. You haven't lost anything. You're just having fun,
- 27:02and that's part of you know, And I think that kids don't understand the
- 27:07fact that there's almost no chance of winning. There's a line from You Two's
- 27:15song Every Breaking wave. Every every gambler knows that to lose is what you're
- 27:18really there for. And I think that that's one of the things that kids
- 27:22need to learn. They need to learn statistics when it comes to odds,
- 27:25when it comes to gambling, they need to understand it's not a high chance
- 27:29of it. Because it's become more common. We're seeing the ads for gambling
- 27:34constantly when we watch sports. If you're still watching sports, it's a constant
- 27:38reminder that there's all these apps where you can bet and gamble and wager on
- 27:44things. And it's just that that's also part of the problem. They may
- 27:48learn, you know, advanced calculus, but if they don't really stop to
- 27:52think about the odds of them losing being so much higher and I mean he's
- 28:00not even putting any words how much higher it is. But anyway. A
- 28:03study from University of Washington found that divorces peak at the end of summer,
- 28:07especially in August. Seems that many couples that have issues think that over the
- 28:11summer they'll get some time together rekindle their relationship, and that usually might accentuate
- 28:18the problems, put more light on the problems rather than solving them, so
- 28:22they often choose to split up late in the summer because most family vacations are
- 28:27over and it's far enough away from the holidays, so they got some time
- 28:32to tie up some loose ends before they get into the holidays and figure out
- 28:34where things are going. And in some cases they might have kids going away
- 28:38to school, maybe off to college, and they think, well, now
- 28:41that they're going to be out of the house, we're gonna just be sitting
- 28:44around looking at each other, and we can't handle that. So there's a
- 28:47few things and they get a little chance to reevaluate things. So that's something
- 28:51that often happens, apparently in August. I suspect too that maybe if vacations
- 28:56were paid for early on, you know, if they pay for a vacation
- 29:00for the summer in like February, and then they go, oh, we're
- 29:04gonna have to at least do this trip, right, all right? Finally,
- 29:11should speaking of vacations, should parents pay for their adult children to go
- 29:15on family vacations. Newsweek did a poll and it says fifty percent of millennials
- 29:21they say yes that the parents should pay for their vacation even when they're adults.
- 29:26Just twenty one percent said that the parents should not pay for family vacation
- 29:33for them all. I think that depends on the parents, doesn't it.
- 29:34Whose idea was it to do the trip in the first place. That's part
- 29:38of the question too. I know some parents do and that's great. It
- 29:42sounds great if you're able to do that. But I think this question of
- 29:47that they should do it, that's where it becomes. If he to me,
- 29:51should they do it? All? Right? That'll do it for this
- 29:53Wednesday edition of the show. Thanks to our sponsors and patrons. Thank you
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