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The Murder of Sade Robinson · Murder Files Unsealed

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Speaker 1: On April first, twenty twenty four, there was this little
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blue dot on a digital map and it just stopped moving. Yeah,
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and for nineteen year old Save Robinson. You know that
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dot was supposed to be a safety net on a
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first date, right, like we all use exactly, But instead
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it became the first piece of this involuntary autobiography, like
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a digital trail that obviously wouldn't save her life, but
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would end up documenting one of the most chilling homicides
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in Wisconsin history.
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Speaker 2: It really is staggering when you look at it.
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Speaker 1: It is so today we are opening up thousands of
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pages of unsealed search warrants, sell data logs, surveillance grid maps,
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court transcripts, and we are looking at the stark reality
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of what happens when the digital tethers we completely rely
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on to keep us safe are you know, put to
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the ultimate test.
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Speaker 2: Okay, let's unpack this because the sheer volume of data
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here is intense.
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Speaker 1: It is. Yeah, and you know the phrase you used,
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involuntary autobiography, I mean that really gets to the heart
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of what modern forensics has become today.
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Speaker 2: The records we are reviewing today, they don't just tell
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a story. They provide this second by second architectural blueprint
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of a crime. Right, because we live under this assumption
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that the vast surveillance apparatus around us, like the transit cameras,
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the cell tower handshakes, the Wi Fi logs, we think
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it all exists to prevent bad things from happening night,
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like a shield exactly. But the documents from the said
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Robinson case lay bare a very different reality. The cameras
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are rolling, sure, the servers are logging, but those systems
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are entirely passive. They are a mirror reflecting society, not
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a shield protecting it.
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Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, I want anyone listening to just you know,
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think about the last time you went out for the evening.
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Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely, probably.
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Speaker 1: Texted a friend to coordinate, Right, your phone connected to
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your car's bluetooth, use a map app to check traffic.
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Speaker 2: You paid for a drink with a card paid with.
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Speaker 1: Your phone, posted a quick photo. In the span of
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like an hour, you created a dozen distinct permanent data points.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, without even thinking about it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah right, We do this so casually, especially in social
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situations like dating. Just assuming that visibility equates to security.
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I mean, the person sitting across from us knows they
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are on camera, right, I'd thinks, so they know our
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friends have our location. The inherent logic is that, well,
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no one would dare do something malicious under those conditions, and.
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Speaker 2: It is a logical assumption based on how rational people operate.
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But the danger arises when you encounter someone whose psychology
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just doesn't adhere to that same risk reward matrix. And
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the collision of those two worldviews is what makes the
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events of April twenty twenty four so profoundly devastating.
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Speaker 1: It really is.
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Speaker 2: We are examining a scenario where a young woman doing
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absolutely everything quote unquote right according to the rules of
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the modern social contract encountered an individual who had spent
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years learning how to exploit the blind spots within those
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very systems, which.
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Speaker 1: Means we really need to start by understanding the lives
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that intersected that night. Yeah, definitely, because you can't grasp
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the magnitude of what the city of Milwaukee lost without
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looking at the sheer momentum of Sade Robinson's life.
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Speaker 2: Her story is just incredible.
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Speaker 1: It really is. Born in Vicksburg, Mississippi, in the spring
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of two thousand and four, she moved to Milwaukee before
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she was even two years old, with her mother, Sheina Scarborough,
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and from everything in these source materials, Sade was the
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absolute gravitational center of her family.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, she really was.
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Speaker 1: She grew up alongside her younger sister Adriana and her
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father Carlos. And the word that appears over and over
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again in statements from her family and her coworkers is
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just energy.
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Speaker 2: Energy, exactly. And it is so rare to read through
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hundreds of pages of witness statements and see such a
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unified consensus about a person's character.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone said the same thing.
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Speaker 2: They really did. She worked at Pizza Shuttle on Milwaukee's
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East Side, which, by the way, is a high volume,
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high stress environment.
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Speaker 1: Oh totally, especially for a college student trying to pay
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the bill right, and.
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Speaker 2: Her co worker Winston Millhens, actually one on record saying
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she literally made every shift better. She had this reputation
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for an infectious, relentless positivity. I love that me too,
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And what I find most compelling about her profile is
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where she was choosing to direct all of that energy.
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At nineteen years old, she was a student at Milwaukee
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Area Technical College and.
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Speaker 1: She wasn't just in role. I mean, she was weeks
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away from graduating weeks Yeah, and she wasn't taking some
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general studies track to just figure things out. She was
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studying criminal justice.
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Speaker 2: Which says so much about her.
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Speaker 1: It really does. Yeah, she had these concrete plans to
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either join the military, go into law enforcement, or pursue
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systemic advocacy. I mean, a nineteen year old dedicating her
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academic life to understanding and fixing the criminal justice system.
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It's amazing think about the intrinsic civic responsibility required to
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make that choice at that age.
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Speaker 2: Well, and the criminal justice curriculum at a technical college
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like MATC, it's heavily focused on the practical application of
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the law right its hands on exactly. Students aren't just
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reading abstract theory. They are studying constitutional law, the mechanics
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of policing, the sociology of crime, and crucially, the structural
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failures of the system.
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Speaker 1: Wow.
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Speaker 2: They are trained to look at society's deepest fractures and
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figure out how to navigate them. Sad was deliberately equipping
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herself with the tools to protect vulnerable people. She wanted
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to be a guardian in her community.
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Speaker 1: And that detail, like that is the one I simply
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cannot shake. When you read the police reports, there is
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a moment on the afternoon of April first, where she
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checks in with an employee at her apartment building.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember reading that.
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Speaker 1: She is buzzing with excitement about this upcoming first date.
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She is doing something so fiercely normal, so universally relatables
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first date excitement.
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Speaker 2: Right, And when we read about that mundane, relatable moment,
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I have to ask you, how does that amplify the
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tragedy for the community.
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Speaker 1: Oh, it makes it so much heavier because it's the
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untrasted hurts. You know. Here is a young woman preparing
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for a lifetime of navigating the darkest parts of society
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in her professional life, stepping out for an evening of
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joy in her personal life, let's go on for dinner, right,
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completely unaware that she was walking into a trap set
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by the very type of predator she was studying to stop.
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That is just it's a profound, tragic irony. She was
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studying a system that ultimately completely failed to protect her.
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Speaker 2: It really did.
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Speaker 1: And to understand how that failure actually occurred, we have
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to kind of pivot here and examine the other half
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of this collision. Because sod was looking forward to her future.
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But the person she was meeting that night had a
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past that tells a very different.
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Speaker 2: Story, a completely different relationship with the justice system.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Where SD viewed the law as a framework for building
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a better society, Maxwell Stephen Anderson seemed to view it
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as a mere inconvenience, just something to be tested, stretched
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and ignored.
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Speaker 1: And the public records paint a deeply concerning picture of
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this guy. At the time of the murder, Anderson was
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thirty three years old, making him fourteen years older than Side.
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He grew up in suburban Wakisha County, specifically Pilwaukee, before
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eventually moving to the South side of Milwaukee, and his
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adult timeline includes a very brief stint in the United
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States Navy, like from April twenty eleven to January twenty twelve.
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Very brief. Yeah. The sources note the circumstances of his
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discharge are unclear, but let's be real here. An eight
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or nine month military career usually indicates an administrative discharge.
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Speaker 2: Right, Oh, almost always. It often relates to an inability
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to adapt to the discipline, the structure, or the behavioral
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expectations of the armed forces. What's fascinating here is that
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while we don't have the specific military discharge, pavers, the
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behavioral pattern that emerges immediately after he returns to civilian
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life strongly supports that hypothesis. Oh absolutely, because from twenty
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fourteen through twenty twenty two, his legal footprint across Waukesha,
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Door and Milwaukee Counties just expands aggressively.
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Speaker 1: He was busy, he was.
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Speaker 2: He worked primarily in the service industry, bartending at major
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local venues like the Rave Victor's Nightclub and the Twisted Fishermen.
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Speaker 1: Which becomes very relevant later.
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Speaker 2: Very relevant and parallel to his employment. He accumulated convictions
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for disorderly conduct, domestic abuse, criminal damage to property, intimidating
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a witness, and operating while intoxicated.
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Speaker 1: See. I get so frustrated when I see a rap
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sheet like this. I know because society and often the
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courts themselves, they tend to look at these charges in
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a vacuum. A judge looks at a disorderly conduct charge
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and thinks, Okay, it was a bar fight. He paid
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a fine a few years later in OWI Uh, he
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made a bad choice after a shift.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. They treat them as isolated incidents.
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Speaker 1: Exactly. We see a list of misdemeanors, and society often
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dismisses them as mistakes. But does this history of domestic
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abuse and intimidating witnesses scream that he was a ticking
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time bomb. Why does this system compartmentalize these red flags?
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Speaker 2: Well, because the modern judicial system is built on an
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assembly line.
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Speaker 3: Model, ah right.
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Speaker 2: In high volume county courts, prosecutors and public defenders are
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managing just overwhelming case loads. The system relies heavily on
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plea bargaining.
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Speaker 3: Just to function, just to keep the lights on, basically
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pretty much.
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Speaker 2: So, when a prosecutor looks at a domestic dispute that
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has been pleated down to disorderly conduct, they aren't conducting
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a holistic psychological evaluation of the defendant's propensity for future violence.
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Speaker 1: They're just looking at the paper in front of.
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Speaker 2: Them, exactly. They are looking at the specific elements of
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the immediate charge and the mandatory minimums attached to it.
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The system compartmentalizes behavior because it simply lacks the resources
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to integrate it.
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Speaker 1: But the psychology behind those specific charges is just glaring.
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I mean, intimidating a witness means I know I broke
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the rules and I am going to use fear to
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ensure I don't face consequences.
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Speaker 2: Right, it's calculated.
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Speaker 1: Yes, Domestic abuse is fundamentally about controlling a vulnerable person
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in a private space. You combine that with multiple owis
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which demonstrate a blatant disregard for public sait and this
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profound lack of impulse control. I mean, you have a
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recipe for extreme volatility.
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Speaker 2: You are describing the exact profile of an escalating predator.
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These aren't crimes of random circumstance. There are crimes of entitlement.
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Speaker 1: Entitlement.
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Speaker 2: Someone who habitually commits domestic in lives and intimidates witnesses
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believes they have the right to dominate others and dictate reality.
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They become accustomed to silencing their victims.
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Speaker 1: And the system just lets them.
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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, because as they continually pass through the court
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system with relatively minor penalties like probation fines, short county
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jail stints, their behavior is functionally reinforced. They learn that
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the system is easily manipulated. They learn they can get
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away with.
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Speaker 1: It, which is terrifying when you realize that Sade Robinson
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had absolutely no connection to this man's past none at all.
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The files state clearly there was no romantic history here.
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Her family had never heard his name. He wasn't her
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usual type. This wasn't some domestic situation that spiraled out
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of control. This was a first date.
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Speaker 2: She was a seemingly random target.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the level of danger shees in only becomes
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fully apparent when you look at the environment Anderson was
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curating for himself behind closed doors.
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Speaker 2: Oh absolutely. The execution of the search warrants at Anderson's
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residence on the thirty one hundred block of South thirty
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ninth Street that provided investigators with a really disturbing glimpse
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into his private world.
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Speaker 1: What do you find?
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Speaker 2: Well, when law enforcement entered the home, they documented an
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axe mounted on a living room wall. They found a
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knife left.
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Speaker 3: Out in the kitchen sink just down in the open.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. And in the basement hidden under a bench, they
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found women's clothing and a women's ID card. Oh wow,
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They located gasoline containers, and they found blood in a
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bedroom as well as on the walls of the stairwell
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leading down to the basement.
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Speaker 1: Okay, now I want to be incredibly precise here, because
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the forensic testing on that blood is actually really important.
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The lab results later confirmed that the blood found inside
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the house was canine in origin.
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Speaker 2: Right, it was a dog's blood.
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Speaker 1: Right, it was not sod's blood. But even knowing that,
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the staging of the house is chilling.
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Speaker 2: Oh. Absolutely.
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Speaker 1: The hidden women's clothing, the ID card of another woman
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tucked away in a basement, these are classic trophies, or
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at least indicators of a deeply secretive, compartmentalized life. It's
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a house that feels designed for intimidation. Well.
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Speaker 2: The physical environment a person maintains is often a projection
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of their internal state. The presence of hidden women's clothing
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and identification documents suggests a pattern of behavior that predates
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April First.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't his first time bringing someone back there exactly.
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Speaker 2: It suggests he was comfortable bringing women into his space
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and retaining physical markers of their presence. The fact that
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the blood was canine doesn't negate the deeply unsettling atmosphere
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of a home where weapons are prominently displayed and another
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woman's belongings are concealed in a basement.
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Speaker 1: No, it doesn't.
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Speaker 2: It was a space over which he exercised absolute, unquestioned control, and.
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Speaker 1: That concept absolute control is really the defining theme of
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how the date actually unfolded, because these two contrasting lives
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collided on the evening of April first, twenty twenty four,
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leaving a digital trail that investigators would later follow step
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by step.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's walk through that.
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Speaker 1: Here's where it gets really interesting, because the digital breadcrumbes
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start dropping the moment they begin communicating. At four twenty
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fine PM, there is a text exchange where they agree
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to meet. They decide to have dinner at the Twisted Fishermen,
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which is this well known seafood place in the Minomodi.
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Speaker 3: Valley right in Milwaukee YEP.
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Speaker 1: Commercial surveillance cameras capture them there. Then they take Sod's
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twenty twenty Honda Civic and drive to a second location,
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a bar called Dukes on Water. At six point thirty pm,
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SOD sends a snapchat to.
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Speaker 2: A friend, just a normal check in.
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Speaker 1: Exactly around nine zero zero pm, they leave Dukes and
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surveillance footage picks up the car, arriving at Anderson's house
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at nine point two four pm. Sod's phone registers a
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GPS ping at that exact location, and then the trail
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goes dark.
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Speaker 2: Now the psychological strategy behind his choice of locations is critical. Here.
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Notice where they went. Oh yeah, the twist of Fisherman
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is not just a random restaurant. It is a place
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where Anderson.
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Speaker 3: Used to work.
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Speaker 2: Duke's on Water is deeply embedded in the downtown Milwaukee
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bar scene, an ecosystem where he had spent years working
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as a bartender. He deliberately routed this date through his
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own territory.
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Speaker 1: I was hoping you bring that up, because if you've
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ever worked in the service industry, you know exactly what
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that dynamics looks like.
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Speaker 2: Oh, you get treated like royalty.
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Speaker 1: Exactly when a former bartender walks into their old venue
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or a similar industry spot, they aren't treated like a
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regular customer. The staff recognizes them, maybe the manager comes
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over to say hello. They know where the restrooms are,
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they know where the cameras are, they know the rhythm
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of the room.
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Speaker 2: It projects this aura of popularity and safety.
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Speaker 1: Yes, if you are on a first date with someone
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and all of the staff seems to know and like them,
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your guard naturally goes down. You think, well, if all
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these people trust him, he must be a good guy.
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Speaker 2: Precisely, it is a textbook tactic for manufacturing compliance. He
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is leveraging his social capital to create a false sense
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of security.
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Speaker 3: Facad wow.
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Speaker 2: He is demonstrating that he is comfortable, accepted, and in
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charge of the environment. And by moving her from venue
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to venue, he is subtly isolating her from her own
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anchor points. She is in his world, operating on his schedule.
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Speaker 1: It's all about control.
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Speaker 2: Yes, this is what behavioral analysts refer to as environmental control.
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The ultimate goal, of course, was to transition her from
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public spaces where he had social control, to a private
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space where he had physical control.
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Speaker 1: His home in the digital architecture of our world tracked
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every single phase of that transition. We hear the phrase
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her phone pinged in true crime stories all the time,
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and it almost sounds like magic.
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Speaker 2: Right, like a radar blip.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, But the reality is a massive, relentless infrastructure of
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data collection. When the timeline says her phone pained at
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his house at nine point two four pm, what is
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actually happening On a technical level.
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Speaker 2: Well, it's a combination of several overlapping technologies. First, you
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have cell tower trilateration. Even when you aren't actively making
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a call, your phone is constantly sending out radio frequency signals,
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essentially asking the local network which tower has the strongest.
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Speaker 1: Connection, just feeling out the room.
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Speaker 2: Basically exactly, the network measures the time it takes for
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those signals to reach multiple towers simultaneously. By calculating the
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time delay between the towers, the network can pinpoint the
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phone's location with remarkable accuracy.
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Speaker 1: Wait, so the network is basically doing high speed geometry
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every few seconds just to figure out how to route
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a potential call.
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Speaker 2: That's exactly it. But it goes far beyond just cell towers.
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Modern smartphones have active GPS receivers communicating with satellites right. Furthermore,
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apps like Snapchat, Life three sixty and even basic weather
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apps are granted location permissions. They log Wi Fi mass
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c addresses.
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Speaker 1: Oh wow, so even if I don't connect to a
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Wi Fi network.
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Speaker 2: Even if you don't connect, if you just walk past
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a router, your phone registers it. These apps bundle this
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data and send it back to their servers continuously. When
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investigators subpoenaed Saide's device history, they weren't just getting a
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vague neighborhood radius. They were getting a hyper specific, multi
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layered data map confirming her arrival at his specific address
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at exactly nine point two four pm.
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Speaker 1: But once she's inside that house, the curtain falls. The
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public surveillance grid, you know, the bar cameras, the street cameras.
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They can't see through the walls, right.
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Speaker 3: The data stops for the next few hours.
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Speaker 1: The only person who knows what happened is Maxwell Anderson,
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and he has never provided an account that matches the
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physical evidence. The silence of those hours is suffocating, but
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it doesn't last, because in the early hours of April second,
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the digital ghost wakes back up, painting a horrifying picture
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of the aftermath.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the data begins to populate again in the dead
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of night, and it outlines a frantic, geographically erratic sequence
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of events. Saide's phone, which had been stationary at Anderson's residence,
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suddenly begins moving. It travels north across the city to
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Pleasant Valley Park up near the Milwaukee River. Then the
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trajectory reverses entirely, heading far south out of the city
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down to Warnamont Park in Kutahee are riding around two
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point four five.
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Speaker 1: Am, and this is where the municipal surveillance grid steps
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back in and the story turns incredibly dark. Warnamont Park
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is situated right on Lake Michigan. Cameras near the park
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capture a vehicle driving toward an area with a pump house.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the video there is crucial.
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Speaker 1: Then they capture something even more specific, a figure descending
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a massive hundred foot bluff down to the beach level.
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It's terrifying, and the car just sits there in the
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darkness for almost two hours. It finally leaves the area
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at four thirty one am, and minutes after that, sades
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phone battery finally dies.
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Speaker 2: Now the movement to Warnamont Park is the beginning of
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an incredibly convoluted, disorganized attempt to destroy evidence. The geography
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here is really important. One hundred foot bluff at night
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is dangerous inaccessible terrain.
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Speaker 1: You don't just wander down.
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Speaker 2: There, No, absolutely not. The perpetrator is deliberately seeking out
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the most isolated, rugged margins of the urban environment to
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dispose of remains. But the cover up doesn't end there.
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The timeline jumps forward to broad daylight and the actions
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become even more brazen.
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Speaker 1: Right at eight forty three am, the sun is up,
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the city is awake, and the Milwaukee County Transit system
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the city buses capture our next massive piece of evidence.
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Speaker 2: This is where he really trips up.
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Speaker 1: Oh completely. A man wearing a gray hoodie and carrying
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a tan backpack is recorded getting off a bus right
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near Anderson's home on the south Side, and the reason
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this bus footage is the smoking gun is because of
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what happens just before it. Roughly two miles from Sod's
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own home, on the eighteen hundred block of North twenty
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ninth Street, a witness watches a man get out of
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a twenty twenty Honda Civic. The man casually tosses a
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lighter into the interior, The car goes up in flames.
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The man just walks away. It was Sod's car.
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Speaker 2: The decision to commit arson on a public street and
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broad daylight is perhaps the most glaring example of the
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cognitive dissonance in Anderson's behavior.
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Speaker 1: What do you mean?
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Speaker 2: Well, we often see criminals attempt to use fire to
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obliterate evidence, specifically DNA fingerprints or blood, But from a
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forensic standpoint, arson is a catastrophic tactical error.
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Speaker 1: See I always wonder about that. People watch movies and
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think fire cleanses everything, but what does a car fire
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actually do in a modern forensic investigation.
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Speaker 2: First and foremost, it guarantees an immediate, overwhelming law enforcement response.
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A burning car on a city street doesn't just get
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a patrol.
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Speaker 3: Officer, right people get to call nine one one exactly.
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Speaker 2: It gets a fire department. It gets specialized arson investigators,
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and surprisingly, it preserves a large amount of evidence. Fire
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burns upwards and outwards. It rarely achieves the sustained extreme
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temperatures required to completely incinerate the floorboards, the trunk or
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the microscopic traces of evidence embedded in the metal.
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Speaker 1: Wow, so it actually backfires completely.
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Speaker 2: What Anderson actually accomplished was putting a massive flare in
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the sky, directing the police precisely to the vehicle, and
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by taking public transit immediately afterward, he tied himself directly
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to the.
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Speaker 1: Scene, like trying to put out a fire with gasoline.
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In his effort to erase SOD from existence. He practically
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drew a map directly back to his front door.
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Speaker 2: He really did.
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Speaker 1: And I want to ask you about the transit cameras,
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because taking a city bus right after torching a car
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is staggering. He's on bus cameras, street cameras is this
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arrogance or just a fundamental misunderstanding of the modern world.
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Speaker 2: It's a fundamental misunderstanding of the environment he was operating
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in predators like Anderson who have a history of domestic
21:38
violence and intimidation. They are accustomed to controlling the narrative
21:42
through fear right. They rely on the silence of human beings.
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But you cannot intimidate a municipal transit.
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Speaker 3: Network that gender doesn't care if you're scary, exactly.
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Speaker 2: You cannot coerce a cell tower into changing its logs.
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He applied a localized strategy of intimidation to a systemic
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network of data, and the data caught everything. The blood
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found later in plain sight on the passenger door speaker
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of his own vehicle just further underscores the chaotic, sloppy
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reality of the aftermath, and the consequences of that chaos
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became horrifyingly public.
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Speaker 1: At five thirty pm that same day, a passerby was
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walking along the beach at Warnamont Park down near the
22:20
bottom of that one hundred foot bluff, and they discovered
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a severed human.
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Speaker 2: Leg, just an awful discovery.
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Speaker 1: The toes were painted with pink nail polish, the same
22:29
color Sayde loved the same color she was known for.
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DNA testing rapidly confirmed the unthinkable.
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Speaker 2: It was sawd and that discovery initiated a multi jurisdictional nightmare.
22:40
Because Anderson chose to scatter the remains, he inadvertently multiplied
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the resources dedicated to catching him. How So well over
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the following days and weeks, human remains were found near
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thirty first in Galina and thirty first in Walnut, which
22:55
is exactly the area where he had torched her car.
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Right the surveillance cameras in that neighborhood caught a hooded
23:02
figure with a backpack moving through the alleys. Later in April,
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a torso and an arm washed up on a remote
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beach in South Milwaukee. By May, another arm was discovered
23:12
all the way down the coast in Waukegan, Illinois.
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Speaker 1: It's difficult to even process the brutality of it, but
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if we analyze the mechanics of what he did, as
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you said, it's like he tried to put out a
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fire by pouring gasoline on it. In his mind, he
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is dismantling the evidence of a homicide.
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Speaker 3: But in reality, right in reality.
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Speaker 1: Every time he crossed a municipal boundary. Every time he
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dropped evidence in a new location, he was ringing a
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new alarm bell. He brought in the Milwaukee Police, he
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brought in the Cuddy Police, He brought in the Milwaukee
23:38
County Sheriff's office. He eventually brought in law enforcement from
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the state of Illinois.
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Speaker 2: The illusion of premeditation is shattered by the geography of
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the cover up. A sophisticated criminal seeks to minimize their footprint.
23:51
Anderson maximized his.
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Speaker 1: He really did.
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Speaker 2: He traveled across dozens of miles of highly surveilled urban
23:58
and suburban terrain, created physical crime scenes in multiple jurisdictions,
24:03
each requiring its own evidence technicians, anthropologists, and forensic specialists.
24:08
He forced the entire apparatus of the state to focus
24:11
directly on him.
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Speaker 1: And that apparatus moved with incredible speed. The sheer volume
24:16
of this evidence, over five hundred exhibits and sixty five witnesses,
24:20
made the ensuing trial almost a foregone conclusion. Just three
24:24
days after the murder, on April fourth, Anderson was pulled
24:27
over during a traffic stop a few blocks from his
24:29
home and arrested very fast. By April twelfth, he was
24:33
formally charged. The list was massive first degree intentional homicide,
24:38
mutilating a corpse, arson and eventually hiding a corpse. He
24:42
was held on a five million dollar bail. The state
24:45
took over a year to meticulously build their case, leading
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to the trial in late May twenty twenty.
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Speaker 2: Five, and that trial, which was presided over by Milwaukee
24:53
County Circuit Judge Laura Crevello, was a masterclass in forensic presentation.
24:57
I'm sure because of the intense media scrutiny, jury selection
25:01
required an expanded pool just to find individuals who hadn't
25:05
been exposed to the gruesome details the war Dyer process,
25:09
you know, the questioning of potential jurors had to meticulously
25:12
weed out bias in a city that was already collectively
25:15
mourning the victim.
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Speaker 1: And once that jury was seated, the prosecution just buried
25:18
the defense in data. The sources say the state prepared
25:21
over five hundred exhibits and planned to call more than
25:24
sixty five witnesses. It's an avalanche, right, Think about what
25:27
a witness list of sixty five people actually looks like.
25:29
It's not just police officers, it's forensic anthropologists explaining bone structure.
25:34
It's sell network engineers explaining radio frequency triangulation. It's fire
25:38
marshals detailing the chemistry of the carfire, it's IT technicians
25:43
from the transit system authenticating the bus video. It is
25:46
a title wave of objective science.
25:48
Speaker 2: And the defense's response to that title wave was absolute silence.
25:52
They called zero witnesses view. They presented no alternative theory
25:56
of the crime. In a first degree intentional homicide trial,
26:00
for the defense to rest without mounting a case is
26:02
exceptionally rare.
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Speaker 3: I mean, what could they even say exactly.
26:06
Speaker 2: It typically only occurs when the state's evidence is so
26:09
perfectly corroborated, so interwoven across multiple independent systems video, DNA,
26:15
cell data, physical remains that any alternative narrative constructed by
26:20
the defense would be immediately recognized by the jury as absurd.
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Speaker 1: And the jury certainly recognized it. And this brings us
26:26
to one of the most stunning details in the entire
26:28
court record. The trial takes a week the charges of
26:32
the most severe offenses on the books. The jury is
26:35
sent to the deliberation room to decide the fate of
26:37
a man's life, and they come back with a verdict
26:40
in thirty six to forty five minutes, less than an
26:42
hour thirty six minutes to convict on four major counts.
26:46
Speaks volumes about the overwhelming, suffocating weight of the prosecution's evidence.
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Speaker 2: It really does to put that in perspective. In a
26:54
standard deliberation, the first fifteen to twenty minutes are usually
26:58
spent just electing a four person, organizing the evidence binders,
27:02
and reviewing the.
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Speaker 3: Judge's instruction right just getting set.
27:05
Speaker 2: So a thirty six minute deliberation means there was absolutely
27:08
no debate. They likely sat down, took an immediate preliminary poll,
27:13
found themselves unanimously convinced of guilt beyond a reasonable doubt
27:16
on all counts, signed the forms, and notified the bailiff.
27:19
It is the judicial equivalent of a rubber stamp.
27:21
Speaker 1: It is the sound of an airtight case. He was
27:24
found guilty on all four counts on August first, twenty
27:28
twenty five. Judge Cravello sentenced him to life in prison
27:31
without the possibility of parole, sending him to the Dodge
27:34
Correctional Institution. She actually went on the record calling it
27:37
one of the worst homicides she had ever seen.
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Speaker 2: I can't even imagine.
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Speaker 1: But the sentencing hearing wasn't defined by the judge. He
27:43
was defined by Said's family. The victim impact statements are
27:46
just gut ranching.
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Speaker 2: They forced the courtroom to confront the human toll that
27:51
the legal documents abstract. Said's seventeen year old sister, Adriana,
27:56
spoke about the surreal horror of her new reality. Out
28:00
of attending high school classes, she had spent her spring
28:02
searching the beaches of Lake Michigan for pieces of her sister.
28:05
Speaker 1: That is just heartbreaking.
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Speaker 2: Her father, Carlos, articulated how his daughter had been the
28:10
source of his life's purpose. But the statement that resonated
28:14
most profoundly came from Saide's mother, Sheena Scarborough.
28:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, she stood up in that courtroom, looked at the
28:20
man who destroyed her family, and said out loud that
28:23
there is no such thing as justice.
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Speaker 2: This raises an important question about what we expect from
28:27
our courts.
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Speaker 1: It really does hearing a grieving mother say that in
28:31
the very room where justice is supposed to be served.
28:34
It makes you completely reevaluate what the legal system actually accomplishes.
28:39
We use the word closure so casually. The gabble bangs
28:42
the trial is over, the bad guy goes to prison.
28:44
We assume the family gets closure, But how do you
28:47
find closure when the State of Wisconsin still hasn't recovered
28:50
all of your daughter's remains?
28:52
Speaker 2: You don't. Sheena Scarborough's words dismantle the illusion that the
28:55
courts are a place of restoration. The legal system is
28:58
fundamentally transactional. It can weigh evidence, it can assign guilt,
29:03
and it can exact a penalty by removing an offender
29:05
from the general population. Right. It provides accountability, but it
29:09
cannot provide restoration. It cannot rewind time. For the families
29:14
of victims, the verdict is not an ending. It is
29:17
merely the conclusion of the bureaucratic phase of their lifelong grief.
29:21
Speaker 1: And the family isn't just accepting that bureaucratic conclusion. They
29:24
are pushing for accountability everywhere they can find it. They
29:28
have filed civil lawsuits, including a wrongful death suit against Anderson,
29:32
but they have also filed a lawsuit against the two
29:34
bars involved in the date the twist of Fishermen and
29:37
dukes on water.
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Speaker 2: Now, this introduces a fascinating and highly consequential area of
29:41
civil law known as dram shop.
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Speaker 3: Liability, dram shop liability.
29:46
Speaker 2: Yes. The lawsuit alleges that these establishments serve sod who
29:50
is nineteen and legally underage alcohol without properly verifying her identification.
29:56
In civil litigation, the standard of proof is lower than
30:00
in criminal court. It's a preponderance of the evidence rather
30:03
than beyond a reasonable doubt.
30:05
Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 2: The family's argument is that the bars breached their statutory
30:08
duty of care by illegally serving a minor. They contributed
30:12
to her vulnerability and intoxication, which was approximate factor in
30:16
the events that followed.
30:17
Speaker 1: It's a powerful legal maneuver. It sends a message to
30:20
the business community, like you are part of the safety ecosystem.
30:23
When you decide to cut corners, when you fail to
30:26
check an ID, you are creating a blind spot that
30:28
predators can exploit.
30:30
Speaker 2: Exactly.
30:30
Speaker 1: The family is refusing to let the responsibility end entirely
30:33
at Anderson's doorstep. They're demanding that the environment that facilitated
30:37
him also answers for its negligence.
30:39
Speaker 2: And that demand for systemic accountability extended far beyond the
30:43
court room. The city of Milwaukee's reaction to this crime
30:46
was unprecedented. Often, urban violence is met with a tragic,
30:51
exhausted apathy.
30:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, people just get used to it.
30:54
Speaker 2: Right, but the details of Said's murder breached that apathy.
30:58
The community mobilized. They transformed the lawn of Anderson's former
31:02
South Side home into a massive pink out.
31:04
Speaker 3: Memorial, Said's favorite color exactly.
31:07
Speaker 2: They painted a vibrant mural outside Pizza Shuttle to ensure
31:10
her smile remained a fixture on the city's east side.
31:14
In May of twenty twenty four, m ATC awarded her
31:17
criminal justice degree posthumously, a deeply symbolic recognition of the
31:22
life she was building.
31:24
Speaker 1: But memorials don't change laws, and Said's family knew that,
31:28
so they founded the Saides Voice Foundation. They took this unimaginable,
31:31
paralyzing grief and they channeled it into direct legislative.
31:35
Speaker 3: Actions, which is incredible.
31:36
Speaker 1: They took their fight to the Wisconsin State Capitol. They
31:38
aren't just asking for thoughts and prayers. They are demanding
31:41
concrete changes in how missing persons cases are tracked and resourced.
31:45
They are forcing the state to confront the glaring data
31:47
regarding the disproportionate violence faced by young black women and girls.
31:51
Speaker 2: If we connect this to the bigger picture. The foundation's
31:54
work addresses a critical historical flaw in law enforcement and
31:58
media priorities. Sociologists often refer to it as missing white
32:02
women syndrome.
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Speaker 1: Right, We've heard that term before.
32:05
Speaker 2: It's the demonstrable phenomenon where cases involving missing white, affluent
32:09
or suburban women receive immediate wall to wall national media
32:13
saturation and exponential resource allocation. Conversely, missing women of color
32:18
are frequently underreported, under investigated, or initially dismissed as runaways.
32:22
Saide's Voice Foundation is actively working to dismantle that disparity
32:26
at a legislative level, demanding standardized immediate protocols for all
32:30
missing persons, regardless of demographics.
32:33
Speaker 1: So what does this all mean? We see this incredible
32:36
foundation and legislative push born from tragedy, but why does
32:39
it always seem to take a horrific headline grabbing crime
32:43
involving severed limbs and a sprawling sociopathic cover up to
32:47
make society pay attention to the systemic danger's vulnerable women
32:51
face every day.
32:52
Speaker 2: That is the defining tragedy of reactive governance. Society rarely
32:56
legislates based on risk. It legislates based.
32:58
Speaker 1: On trauma wow based on Yes.
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Speaker 2: The systemic dangers, the lenient plea deals for domestic officers,
33:05
the disparate media coverage, the lax enforcement of LIHU laws
33:10
are treated as acceptable margins of error until they produce
33:13
a tragedy so visceral that it demands a response. Said's
33:17
Voice Foundation is attempting to shift the paradigm from reactive
33:20
outrage to proactive protection. They are doing the exact work
33:25
Said herself set out to do when she enrolled in
33:27
her criminal justice program, and.
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Speaker 1: That is where the legacy of this case truly resides.
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Speaker 2: YEA.
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Speaker 1: To bring all of this together, we have traced the
33:34
arc of a vibrant, ambitious, nineteen year old woman who
33:37
wanted to fix a broken system. We've examined the unchecked,
33:41
escalating behavioral history of Maxwell Anderson, a man the justice
33:45
system failed to properly categorize until it was far too late.
33:48
We have broken down the staggering, multi layered digital surveillance
33:51
apparatus that meticulously recorded every step of his horrific crime
33:55
and subsequent cover up, leading to one of the swiftest
33:57
jury verdicts in the county's history.
33:59
Speaker 3: A historic, really absolutely.
34:01
Speaker 1: And we have witnessed how a greeting family transformed their
34:04
nightmare into a relentless pursuit for systemic change.
34:07
Speaker 2: The archival documents we reviewed provide the empirical facts of
34:10
the homicide, but the ongoing work of the family provides
34:14
the meaning. They are ensuring that the final word on
34:17
said Robinson is not dictated by the man who ended
34:20
her life, but by the community that continues to fight
34:23
in her name.
34:23
Speaker 1: We started this hour talking about the little blue dot
34:26
on the map, the illusion of the modern safety net.
34:29
As we close the file on this deep dive, I
34:32
want to leave you with a thought that challenges that illusion.
34:35
Sade Robinson was studying the law. She believed in the
34:39
system's capacity to protect people. Yet the vast, multi million
34:43
dollar infrastructure of cell towers, transit cameras, and GPS satellites
34:48
surrounding her did absolutely nothing to intervene When a man
34:51
with a decade long history of violence decided to act,
34:54
The technology only mobilized afterward to a venture.
34:57
Speaker 3: It's chilling, it really is.
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Speaker 1: As you look around at all the cameras and all
35:01
the data logs and ask yourself, are we actually building
35:05
a society that prevents monsters? From acting, or have we
35:08
simply spent billions of dollars to build a machine that
35:11
perfectly documents the damage they do while leaving the vulnerable
35:15
to fend for themselves. Thank you for spending your time
35:18
with us on this deep dive, Stay curious, look out
35:20
for the people in your life, and take care of
35:22
one another.