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Mac & Bone Hour 4: Buying Into the Hornets 3-1 Start? · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: No timeline as far as I know right now, and
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  Speaker 1: I think all three of those guys that you just
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: mentioned have had positive steps in their rehab process. Some
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  Speaker 1: are further along than others, but I hope during this
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  Speaker 1: road trip or after the road trip we get a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more information, but all three are making positive
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  Speaker 1: steps in all their rehab plans.
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  Speaker 2: So there it is.
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  Speaker 3: We've got to, unfortunately, Bowen, the Hornets segment has to
• 0:49
  Speaker 3: have a little bit of both components of the story here,
• 0:52
  Speaker 3: and that is part of it.
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  Speaker 2: That is the downside, that that was Charles Lee pregame.
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  Speaker 4: I can't speak. Pregame.
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  Speaker 2: What am I trying to say?
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  Speaker 3: Sneak up on it, Mac. Charles Lee pregame. Sneak up
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  Speaker 3: on the word pregame, Mac. But that was Chuck before
• 1:07
  Speaker 3: the game, Bowen. And now I'm calling him Chuck, and
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  Speaker 3: I didn't even ask his permission.
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  Speaker 4: Before the game.
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  Speaker 3: Have you been.
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  Speaker 4: You sipping a little bit of something.
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  Speaker 2: Here during the break?
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  Speaker 3: It sounds like it. I deserve to have local college
• 1:18
  Speaker 3: students bash me. I very much deserve that right now.
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  Speaker 4: I think I'd like to blame the text line for
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  Speaker 4: making Mac feel unsafe right now.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 3: So anyway, that's the health update. That's not much of
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  Speaker 3: a health update. That Kobe, Khan, and Grant, there's no timeline.
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  Speaker 3: There could be an update on the road trip coming up.
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  Speaker 3: Could be an update after the road trip. And for
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  Speaker 3: Khan and Grant specifically... Those are hamstring strains that happened
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  Speaker 3: six weeks ago. I am shocked that it is still
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  Speaker 3: taking this long and they still are not at a
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  Speaker 3: point where there is even a timeline. It sucks because
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  Speaker 3: we have to talk about the full picture here with
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  Speaker 3: the Hornets, Bone. The one picture on the floor is
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  Speaker 3: three and one. Brandon Miller had 39 last night and 34.
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  Speaker 4: The night before.
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  Speaker 3: He is like stepping up to his role. Guys like
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  Speaker 3: new additions like Grayson Allen, Nas Reed are picking up
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  Speaker 3: the slack and getting off to fast starts. But the
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  Speaker 3: other part of this is, and I'll put it in
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  Speaker 3: the words of a texter, a texter said, man, we
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  Speaker 3: got to get those other guys back. Brandon can't like
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  Speaker 3: carry them forever. And that's the thing. The games will
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  Speaker 3: get tougher. We haven't necessarily played the toughest teams to
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  Speaker 3: start the season. So, like, I'm very excited about the
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  Speaker 3: 3-1 start, but the fear is how long, Bone, do
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  Speaker 3: these guys have to hold it down without the help,
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  Speaker 3: you know?
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  Speaker 4: The worrisome part to me is a week ago when...
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  Speaker 4: Charles Lee was talking before the Nets game. Now you
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  Speaker 4: can't talk. The Brooklyn Nets game, the game one a
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  Speaker 4: week ago, Charles Lee was talking about the ramp up
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  Speaker 4: process and how much they're doing or about ready to do.
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  Speaker 4: And it feels like, oh, they're they're trending towards playing
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  Speaker 4: basketball here. And yesterday. The wording was more in the
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  Speaker 4: information gathering stage after the road trip or whatever the
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  Speaker 4: warning exactly was. But after the road trip, they're going
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  Speaker 4: to have more information. So I thought we were ramping
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  Speaker 4: up and now we're in the information gathering stage. So
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  Speaker 4: did they have collective setbacks? Like, why? Why are we
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  Speaker 4: not moving forward? What a week ago, I thought we
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  Speaker 4: were ramping stuff up here.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they had started individual work, but I guess the
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  Speaker 3: difference between individual work, like are they even in-team stuff
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  Speaker 3: right now, or is it literally just by themselves? You know,
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  Speaker 3: like that's a big difference between, hey, we're running fives,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and you're out there. I did look up
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  Speaker 3: bone because, of course, I'm not a doctor, and I
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  Speaker 3: didn't stay at the Holiday Inn Express last night.
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  Speaker 2: So what did I do? I WebMD'd it, and I
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  Speaker 2: looked it up.
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  Speaker 3: Moderate hamstring strains, three to eight weeks.
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  Speaker 2: That's a wide range. So they're still in that moderate range. stage. So,
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  Speaker 2: but two weeks, that's the end of the moderate stage.
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  Speaker 3: And then you start to get into what they call,
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  Speaker 3: you know, severe and severe could be up to three months,
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  Speaker 3: they say. So now I'm wondering about what exactly, and again,
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  Speaker 3: this is the stuff where I would love if they
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  Speaker 3: would explain it to us.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, it's a moderate sprain or strain, you know.
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  Speaker 3: What I mean? But they want to give us bare
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  Speaker 3: minimum information about these injuries.
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  Speaker 2: And I hate, I kind of hate that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just an unknown. I thought when we talked
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  Speaker 4: to Khan about a month ago, right? Is that it now?
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  Speaker 4: Almost a month ago? I thought Khan, the way he
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  Speaker 4: acted was, yeah, not a big deal. I thought he'd
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  Speaker 4: be back right by the first game, second game. The
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  Speaker 4: fact that we're still gathering intel on this thing, according
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  Speaker 4: to the words that he said, Coach Lee. I don't
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  Speaker 4: love this.
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  Speaker 3: So you said it earlier. Was there a setback of
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  Speaker 3: some sort? That's a question. Did they all have.
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  Speaker 4: One big, giant setback? What's going on here?
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  Speaker 3: Kobe, that's not surprising to me. His was pretty recent, right?
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  Speaker 3: So I could see a calf strain still being a problem.
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  Speaker 3: I wasn't expecting to get him back in the same
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  Speaker 3: time frame. But Khan and Grant? Those are interesting ones.
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  Speaker 3: So here's the question to everybody out there. The way
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  Speaker 3: they started, the way Brandon Miller is playing, and like
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  Speaker 3: I said, Nas and Grayson, great pickups. I feel like
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  Speaker 3: we do need to do some happy Hornets talk. Like,
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  Speaker 3: they are more than holding it down right now.
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  Speaker 2: And it's not pretty.
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  Speaker 3: The offense has had struggles at times. But as a
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  Speaker 3: texter said, they're making up for it with the way
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  Speaker 3: they're hitting the boards. 20 offensive rebounds last night. Moussa
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  Speaker 3: had 11.
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  Speaker 4: That gives you extra possession after extra possession. I wonder
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  Speaker 4: how many he actually got his hands on. Yeah. It
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  Speaker 4: had to be like 20 basketballs that he either kept
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  Speaker 4: the possession alive or whatever he did.
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  Speaker 3: He was in there in all those. Dude, and then
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  Speaker 3: he's getting in Anthony Davis' face. Moose, I'm telling you,
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  Speaker 3: you've got to pay that man. That's the next guy
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  Speaker 3: we've got to pay, bro. He is just heart and
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  Speaker 3: soul type player. He had that brow staring right at him. Oh, man,
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  Speaker 3: he don't mess around. See, that's the thing is Moose
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  Speaker 3: is a fun guy. But when he's on the floor,
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  Speaker 3: it's not just I'm going to relentlessly go after the
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  Speaker 3: basketball every minute I'm in there. But we saw it
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  Speaker 3: with the whole Pistons fight, which, oh, by the way,
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  Speaker 3: we get to see our friends, Bone, in Detroit on
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  Speaker 3: Wednesday and then next Monday again. But, like, he's got
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  Speaker 3: that tough guy to him, too.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I mean? Like, he don't play either.
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  Speaker 4: Did you hear what Moussa said after the game last
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  Speaker 4: night about his rebounding? That he... When he first got here,
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  Speaker 4: for him to play, he had to rebound. He had
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  Speaker 4: to attack the glass. And for him to stay on
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  Speaker 4: the court now, he's got to rebound and attack the glass.
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  Speaker 4: That's your elite skill. Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you've got to do your special skill, not to
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  Speaker 3: mention the defense and the switchability. And listen, AD still
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  Speaker 3: got us last night.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't know this.
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  Speaker 3: We hadn't beat Anthony Davis in 10 straight games. I
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  Speaker 3: read that after the game. And I know, like, I'm
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  Speaker 3: not surprised anybody has beaten the Hornets in a lot
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  Speaker 3: of games statistically, but 10 straight.
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  Speaker 4: And by the way. I'm surprised he played in 10 games. Well,
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  Speaker 4: here's the thing.
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  Speaker 2: I know. Here's the thing, Bone. It goes back 10 years.
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  Speaker 3: So it's like because of all the injuries, it has
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  Speaker 3: to go back like 10 years.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Now I get it. So what is the right vibe
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  Speaker 3: check with Hornets fans? The injury news is a bummer,
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  Speaker 3: and we do need those guys back. And I want
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  Speaker 3: to see what the offense can be when teams can't
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  Speaker 3: double Brandon like they were doing last night because it's
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  Speaker 3: Khan and Kobe in there and they'll make you pay. Overall,
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  Speaker 3: good vibes, right? Still, because they're three and one. Or
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  Speaker 3: how much does the injury news hurt fan vibes, do
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  Speaker 3: you think?
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. It's hard for me to tell. Today,
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  Speaker 4: I can tell you one thing. The Brandon Miller haters....
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  Speaker 2: That is true. That is true.
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  Speaker 4: It's almost like, Mac, we're way early in the season,
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  Speaker 4: and people overreacted to it for the first couple games.
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  Speaker 2: You don't say. That would never happen here.
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  Speaker 4: We paid $ 209 million for a guy that can't create
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  Speaker 4: his own offense.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you are seeing him become a creator now that
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  Speaker 3: he knows he has to do it.
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  Speaker 2: And listen, is it always going to be easy?
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 3: You brought up the Hawks defenders. They kept throwing at him,
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  Speaker 3: and it was rough. He was 2 of 14. But, man,
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  Speaker 3: he wants the ball. Late in the shot clock, he
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  Speaker 3: wants it. Late in the game, when he got to
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  Speaker 3: his spot on the elbow, rose up late in the game,
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  Speaker 3: that was a huge shot. And then he goes down
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  Speaker 3: the other end and blocks AD. The defense is there, too.
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  Speaker 3: What was it, three steals, two blocks? Some great individual
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  Speaker 3: wing defense. It's happening, man. Brandon's growing the heck up.
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  Speaker 3: And I just want to see the full, listen, was
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  Speaker 3: I bummed about LaMelo being traded?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to act to fans that are texting
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  Speaker 3: in saying, dude, imagine what we could be with LaMelo
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  Speaker 3: and all that stuff. I was bummed that they were
• 8:34
  Speaker 3: breaking up last year's team. I wanted LaMelo to stay
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  Speaker 3: because I wanted to build off that. But you can
• 8:39
  Speaker 3: see their rationale of thinking for the future, you know,
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  Speaker 3: selling while the value is high, still thinking like LaMelo,
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  Speaker 3: you know, is going to be injury prone and fearing that.
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  Speaker 3: I just, I still think, Bone, they could be a
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  Speaker 3: pretty damn good team. with Khan, Kobe, and Grant back.
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  Speaker 3: I really believe that. Would you like me to read.
• 8:56
  Speaker 4: Off to you the last five texts from Freddie Raymack
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  Speaker 4: over the last 10 days? Uh-oh. Trade Grayson Allen. Trade
• 9:03
  Speaker 4: Grayson Allen. Trade Grayson Allen. Trade Grayson Allen. Is that
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  Speaker 4: a personal you don't want to root for? Because if
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  Speaker 4: you're watching the games... He's been a highly important guy
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  Speaker 4: for this team. They don't win the other night without
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  Speaker 4: his chicken salad shot that the four-point play the other night.
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  Speaker 4: Most likely. Not at all. And he was big. They
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  Speaker 4: put him in last night. Freddie, you're right, man. You've
• 9:24
  Speaker 4: got to get over this, man.
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  Speaker 3: What was happening last night in the fourth quarter is
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  Speaker 3: they started doubling Brandon off of.
• 9:32
  Speaker 3: Schroeder and Sion. Sion's been struggling to shoot. Schroeder, that's
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  Speaker 3: not his game, right? Shooting from the outside. So they
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  Speaker 3: put Grayson in it and they actually ran Grayson off Miller,
• 9:43
  Speaker 3: got Schroeder out of the way. They weren't going to
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  Speaker 3: double off Grayson. And that's when Miller hit that shot
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  Speaker 3: from the elbow. So Grayson Allen's so valuable to this team.
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  Speaker 2: It's funny.
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  Speaker 3: We got a text from someone earlier says, is it
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  Speaker 3: just me or is Grayson Allen become one of the
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  Speaker 3: most amazingly enjoyable guys to root for? Also like he,
• 10:03
  Speaker 3: he is once he's yours, I think you can root
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  Speaker 3: for him. Especially this version, way more mature than the college.
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  Speaker 3: He's chilled out a lot.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: How about the first game when there was a little
• 10:12
  Speaker 4: scrum in the lane and he didn't even get anywhere
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  Speaker 4: near it? He just kind of hung out in the background.
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  Speaker 4: Usually he'd be the guy that calls that scrum. He's very,
• 10:19
  Speaker 4: very chill out there. He just, Matt, did they give
• 10:23
  Speaker 4: him a tranquilizer dart?
• 10:26
  Speaker 3: No, you heard him, though. When he was with us
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  Speaker 3: and he was like, I used to act like a
• 10:30
  Speaker 3: bleep hole. He cussed with us, but I wasn't one
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  Speaker 3: off the court, but I did on the court. I
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  Speaker 3: think he's realized, okay, there's no way to act.
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  Speaker 4: Like, he's grown up.
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  Speaker 2: At some point, I'm going to grow up.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
• 10:42
  Speaker 2: I'm waiting for it. I'm 53 now, Bo.
• 10:43
  Speaker 4: At any minute now, I'm going to grow up.
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  Speaker 6: You certainly growed out.
• 10:46
  Speaker 3: Ha! Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 5: Dang.
• 10:49
  Speaker 4: Oh, my God. We don't stray each other on this show, Finny.
• 10:52
  Speaker 3: I'm telling you right now, if the University of Utah
• 10:55
  Speaker 3: tweets that clip out, man, I'm going to be very offended.
• 10:57
  Speaker 4: I don't feel safe.
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  Speaker 2: Finny, I'm going to ask you. This dude said.
• 11:00
  Speaker 4: Finny's so proud of himself right now.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, that was good. You got me on that one good, Fin.
• 11:04
  Speaker 3: 704 number said, I'm a diehard Heels fan. It's taken
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  Speaker 3: four games. I now love Grayson Allen. Another texter. it's
• 11:11
  Speaker 3: going to take more than a few games y'all for
• 11:14
  Speaker 3: me to love grace allen but he's been very good
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  Speaker 3: for us he's a better fit right now for this
• 11:19
  Speaker 3: team than miles bridges was oh you hear what walk
• 11:21
  Speaker 3: says yeah walker i assume he's saying it on the
• 11:24
  Speaker 3: air i assume i'm not saying something he doesn't say
• 11:26
  Speaker 3: on the air but.
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  Speaker 2: He's We were talking to him yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: I'm aroused.
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  Speaker 2: Well, he was not saying that yesterday to us. Thank God.
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  Speaker 4: He said that to me personally. Okay, okay.
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  Speaker 3: He says, dude, I would have traded Miles for Grayson
• 11:38
  Speaker 3: straight up. Forget about the fact we got Royce O'Neal
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  Speaker 3: and a first-round pick. And I don't know if I
• 11:43
  Speaker 3: disagree with him. And Nas Reid, I know we got
• 11:46
  Speaker 3: a better foreman than Miles Bridges. Again, I'm not trying
• 11:49
  Speaker 3: to slander all the guys that we traded. It's just
• 11:53
  Speaker 3: the sky doesn't need to fall after those trades this offseason.
• 11:57
  Speaker 4: You know, it doesn't need to. By the way, Mac,
• 11:59
  Speaker 4: the turning of the fans now towards Grayson Allen, it's hilarious.
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  Speaker 4: Alex at Steel Creek, all is forgiven. Allen is my
• 12:06
  Speaker 4: dude now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, baby.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome aboard to Grayson Allen Converts Club.
• 12:10
  Speaker 4: How about this? I used to hate Grayson Allen. Now
• 12:13
  Speaker 4: I protect him.
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  Speaker 2: This is amazing.
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  Speaker 4: Do you think we'll ever get Colin Hoggard on board?
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  Speaker 4: That's my next, that's my next. He's struggling with it,
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  Speaker 4: but he knows. He wants the team to win.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so he's kind of rooting for him, but he's
• 12:24
  Speaker 3: not like fully enjoying it.
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  Speaker 4: He's a very conflicted man, which is why all the texters.
• 12:29
  Speaker 4: This is like when Johnny, I know that he didn't
• 12:31
  Speaker 4: have the reputation of Grayson Allen, but when Johnny Damon
• 12:34
  Speaker 4: joined the Yankees.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that would have to be a weird one.
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  Speaker 4: Off the 0-4 team, it was kind of like, I
• 12:38
  Speaker 4: don't really like this guy, but he's now my guy
• 12:42
  Speaker 4: sort of thing. Now that he's no longer a Yankee,
• 12:44
  Speaker 4: I watch him. I'm like, yeah, I still don't like
• 12:46
  Speaker 4: you very much. Yeah, that had to be a weird one,
• 12:48
  Speaker 4: no doubt about it.
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  Speaker 3: Clemens to the Yankees for Red Sox fans had to
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  Speaker 3: be a really weird one.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot of examples, I'm sure, of you
• 12:57
  Speaker 4: end up– You end up– is it sleeping with the enemy?
• 13:00
  Speaker 4: Is that the term we're using for this? I think
• 13:02
  Speaker 4: we can go with that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I think we can go with that. I am– I don't–
• 13:06
  Speaker 4: What enemies ended up in your bed, basically?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Feel free to text in what enemies ended up in
• 13:11
  Speaker 2: your bed. Figuratively, not literally. Oh, yeah. Sports-wise.
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  Speaker 4: 7045709610.
• 13:17
  Speaker 2: We're getting a lot of these on the text line.
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  Speaker 3: Anybody else think Anderson looks like he is a G League–
• 13:23
  Speaker 3: everybody's not saying a G League player– But the texter said, hey,
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  Speaker 3: I think he looks like a G League player. I
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  Speaker 3: think there's a possibility, Bone, and maybe it still will
• 13:32
  Speaker 3: happen when we get Kobe back. But, yeah, I think
• 13:35
  Speaker 3: he's a guy that could spend some time in the
• 13:36
  Speaker 3: G League this year. I think he definitely needs to
• 13:39
  Speaker 3: add physicality. I've been surprised, Bone, by the slow start shooting.
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  Speaker 3: I know he hit one last night from three. But
• 13:47
  Speaker 3: he was a dead-eye shooter, like one of the best
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  Speaker 3: shooters in the country last year. It seems like he
• 13:52
  Speaker 3: is struggling with the responsibility of, I've got to handle pressure.
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  Speaker 3: I've got to get us in our sets. And I
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  Speaker 3: think it's affecting his shooting because I know he can
• 14:01
  Speaker 3: shoot the ball, man. But it's so early to start, like,
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  Speaker 3: we had someone calling him a bust last hour, Bone.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, come on. He's also gotten moved up the
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  Speaker 4: playing time list here because of the guard depth, too.
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  Speaker 4: They didn't want him on the rotation. To me, he—
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  Speaker 4: He and Steinbach are on the same path right now
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  Speaker 4: of playing time, but he, because of the roster situation,
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  Speaker 4: he's playing more than they wanted him to right now.
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  Speaker 1: 100%.
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  Speaker 2: Dmill in the 704 says, UNC fan here, grace to Allen.
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  Speaker 4: All right. I wasn't impressed by that wordplay. How about
• 14:34
  Speaker 4: this text from Mike and Matthews, Mac? Bone, you're just
• 14:38
  Speaker 4: happy because the guys are from Duke. Seon James showed
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: us nothing in your great hope. Conn Knipple didn't show
• 14:45
  Speaker 4: up last year when Melo needed him most.
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. That is haterade right there, baby.
• 14:52
  Speaker 4: What in the world? Finney write that text? No, Finney's
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: a Knipple guy.
• 14:57
  Speaker 3: Oh, man.
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: 704 is right.
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: He says, that's Poppycock, by the way, Mac.
• 15:01
  Speaker 4: Did I see, did Melo show up for the play? Poppycock.
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: What was Melo in the play-in game? The loss? He
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: had 23 points. He went off in the second half.
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: But they got off to a horrible start overall in
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: that game, though.
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: That's when afterwards he said, basically, the plays we called,
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: I should have just said the heck with it and
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: took the game over. That was it for him. But anyway, listen,
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: Khan had a back problem. Khan was not right. You
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: can't convince me that Khan was right. That extended slump
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: at the end of the season was not a coincidence.
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: He was not physically right. 704 number is right, though.
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: 704 number says y'all got to give Tijon some love.
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: He might not be putting up offensive numbers, but he's
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: playing aggressive. and great defense. 100%, man. No doubt about it.
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: Five points, five boards last night. I love the play
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: bone where they get a defensive rebound. He ripped it
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: away from the dude and dunked it home. And the
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: defense he played on Giannis on Saturday night?
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: Yes. That's what you do, young fella.
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: And yeah.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: I want more of that from Tijon. No doubt about it.
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: 980 number says, I need to know what Tar Heel
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: slash Hornets Fitty says about Grayson Allen. All right, we
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: got to go to break when we come back. Can
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: you call him Hornets Fitty? Is that even a person
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: that exists? I was at the home opener. Where was
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: your ass? He was booing the other night, right? Or
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: are you getting booed? Both.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: So Fitty, are you okay? Are you Grayson Allen friendly, Fitty? No.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: Get him out of here.
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: Why are y'all asking? Are you willing to let bygones
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: be bygones? He didn't trip your guys.
• 16:43
  Speaker 6: He did not, but he's not Khan.
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: He was respectful of you guys.
• 16:47
  Speaker 6: He's not Khan. I'm here for the Khan love. I
• 16:50
  Speaker 6: love Khan Kanipol.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: Sion? Can you go to Sion?
• 16:53
  Speaker 6: Maybe when he doesn't shoot.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: So, so Finney draws a line. If you're con can nipple.
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: If not all other two players, get out of here.
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: I've embraced Kobe white.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: There you go.
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: I'm a Kobe white guy.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: How about you?
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: I was a fan of Kobe white the whole way through. Actually,
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: I think he's a great player.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: I've got a novel concept. How about we leave the
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: college in college and just be Hornets fans. That's a
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: good point. Y'all go rip me for.
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: That, aren't you?
• 17:20
  Speaker 6: Let's do that because I'm about to be the first
• 17:22
  Speaker 6: Knicks fan ever to leave the Knicks to be a
• 17:25
  Speaker 6: Hornets fan after they won a championship because the Knicks
• 17:27
  Speaker 6: are cut.
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: Come on, baby. Come on.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: Oh, you're jumping off that wagon with the early struggles?
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: All righty. When we come back, it's the Stroh Show.
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: Ashley Strohwein joins us for her weekly chat about sports,
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: about life, and wherever that road will take us. Sports
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: Radio 92.7 WFNZ.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: I love you.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: That is Stroh's music, everybody.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: It's time for the Stroh Show right now on the
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: Mac and Bone Show. Ashley Strohlein, I heard her and
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: Fitty talking to us through the traumatic double booing here
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: in Charlotte over the sports weekend. Like the fit dog,
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: Ashley Strohlein at both those games. The Hornets on Friday night,
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: which they have since rebounded nicely from with two wins. And,
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: of course, the Panther game on Sunday, which we are
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: begging them for a rebound on Thursday night. Ashley Strohlein
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: is with us here on the Mac and Bone Show.
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: Stroh, how are you doing this week?
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: Good morning. I'm good. How are you guys? What's happening?
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're doing good. It's been a rough couple of days, Stro.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: A rough couple of days in Panther Nation. What did
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: you think of that display, Stro? Could you believe what
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: you were seeing?
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: No.
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: It was... It was rough just because I feel like,
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: you know, it's kind of like Coach came in and
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: said after, he's like, I don't know, the last time
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: I was a part of a, you know, a first
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: half of football that was just that rough. Like nothing,
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: nothing worked right on any phase. And so I don't
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: mean sometimes you have days like that and anything right,
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: you think, okay, one thing goes wrong, everything else will
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: go right. And it was just a case of quite
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: literally nothing except maybe Bryce's one touchdown pass there. looked
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: okay you know and then we.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: Met and then we messed that up stroke 15 seconds
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: later by allowing them to score two points on our
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: extra point.
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah that's my point i mean right literally you couldn't
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: even celebrate the touchdown that.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: You got seriously beautiful pass but damn what's your overall
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: take on fans booing because we saw it twice in
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: a couple of days here in Charlotte.
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: You know, it's been an interesting topic. I think on,
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: on social media in the last week, just in general,
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: be it, you know, teams getting booed here or elsewhere.
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: And yeah, It's like Coach Lee kind of said at
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: the Hornets, he's like, yeah, that's good for us. Go
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: ahead and boo us. We needed to hear that. Then
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: you have some other players throughout the league say, well,
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: if you are booing us, don't come back because when
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: have we ever given up on a game and that
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: kind of thing. I'm talking about out in Denver, obviously.
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: with the Joker kind of voicing his opinions when they
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: got booed. So I think it made me kind of
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: sit back and think like, hmm, okay, what do I
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: feel about the booing? But at the end of the day,
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: I do feel like, I just think about what it
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: costs for someone to come to a game. and I
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: think in the city of Charlotte specifically, the fans have
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: been waiting for winning sports for a really long time,
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: and you get a glimpse of that, and you get excited,
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: and so you're hyped for the game, and you spend
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: all the money to come to the game, and you're
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: just kind of wasting your frustrations. I hate it. I
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: feel bad for the players any time it's a home game,
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: and I would like to see the fans kind of
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: support the guys to the very end, but at the
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: same time, I get that sometimes it's really frustrating and disappointing.
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: So I try to see both sides of it, but
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: I like it when times are happy and we can
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: just cheer.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you, too.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: I want happy sports times in Charlotte, but I don't
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: know if everybody's noticed, y'all. It doesn't always happen that way.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: I'm beginning to notice. Stro, I thought you were going
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: to be very against booing. I don't mean to judge you, Stro,
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: but based off of your kindness, you know what I mean,
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: and you not liking meanness, I kind of thought you'd
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: be like, that's too mean, y'all. That's what I thought.
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: Well, I do. I don't like it, and it does
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: not make me happy. But I had someone say to me, well,
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: think about what it costs to– this was in the
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: press box on Sunday. They're like, yeah, but think about
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: what it costs for a family to come to a
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: game by the time you probably drive. You pay for parking.
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: You pay for the tickets. You obviously want to have
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: a good time if it's the one game you're coming to,
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: so maybe you visit. You know, the merch store, maybe
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: you get concession. You spend a lot of money, right?
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: And so you hope to see a good product. And
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: that's the risk that you take also when you decide
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: to go to a game. It could go well. It
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: could go bad. Your favorite player could be out. You
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: just never know what you're going to get. So I
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: don't like the booing, but someone did kind of find
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: a way to lay it out and justify it to me.
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: And I said, okay, I'll see that side of it too.
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: All right. What do you think, Stroh?
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: Here's another one, Stroh, where I think I know what
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: side you'll be on. We were a little bothered by
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: the tone after the game. Now, granted, we were just
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: so grumpy after the game itself, right? The way they lost.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: I think everything was going to bother us. But we
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: were a little bothered by Coach Canales and the players'
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: flush-it message after the game. Like, even Derrick Brown, who
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: usually is the type of leader that's just like, oh, that's– like,
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: I thought he'd hit us with an unacceptable, embarrassing, we
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: will never let that happen again. And even Derrick Brown
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: was like, yeah, I can't think about that, you know,
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: what happened to us in the run game. We just
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: got to move on and flush it. Do you want
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: a little fire and brimstone from Canales and the players,
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: or do you not mind if after that game they
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: just say, we got to flush it, we can't be
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: worried about it?
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: Well, we don't know what was said– you know, behind
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: closed doors to each other or what the, you know,
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: what the message was internally. We know what they, they
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: say to us, but honestly, I feel like if I,
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: I played in that game, I'd be so disappointed. I'd
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: be like, yeah, I need to turn the page like
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: two seconds after I walked back in the locker room.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: So I, I, I get it right. People, I think
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: this day and age, um, get really frustrated when it's
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: a bad loss or something bad happens. And, and you're
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: not getting that, you know, crazy fiery message because you
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: think people like, Oh, that means they don't care. They
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: didn't take it seriously or dah, dah, dah, dah, dah.
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: But I don't think one bad game in, in any sport, uh,
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: takes away from, uh, what you've accomplished, right? And so
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: up until that point, everybody felt great about the Panthers.
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: One week, it's MVP chance. The next week, you know,
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: it's booze.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: So it does swing quickly.
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: I'm not mad about that.
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: You know, it sure does because you also have a game.
• 24:16
  Speaker 5: you know, on Thursday that you got to get ready for.
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: And so you can sit there and be mad about it,
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: but you, you've got to quickly get back to work
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: and figure out what the heck went wrong before you,
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: you go play again.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: That's true. That's true. Thursday night, Amazon, they can be
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: hard games to predict. What do you feel about this
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: game and what Panther team may show up this week?
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: Well, I don't know. We've had, we, you know, how
• 24:39
  Speaker 5: do you, how, how do you bounce back? And so I,
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: So I just think it's one of those things where
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: we felt so good, and you know how it happens.
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: You're riding high, and then next thing you know, it's like, well,
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: we're back to reality. So I do think this is
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: a game of how do you respond. And unfortunately, you've
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: got injuries to deal with and moating out for the
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: year and that kind of thing. So it's... It's always
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: a tough go, but that's part of the game. And
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: I think this is a how do you respond game?
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: What what do you change? What did you go back
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: and fix? And and how do you just I mean,
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: you have so many so many ways that you can improve.
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: So hopefully you figured it out in all three phases
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: before you go to Green Bay.
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: Allow me, Stroh.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: I know you'll be in favor of this, but I'm
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: talking to the Panther fans that are like not ready
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: for any positivity yet because they're so angry. at the game,
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: but this is the type of game bone. And you
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: and I've been talking about it in the last season
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: and a half or season plus that Canales and the
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: Panthers have won. They are eight and three stro after
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: a loss since the beginning of last year. So this
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: is the game bone that they usually respond in last year,
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: Buffalo blew them out. They went into green Bay and
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: won last year to Niners, shut them down on Monday
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: night football. They came home and beat the Rams. So
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: history would show they can handle this sort of moment.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: But I would understand if people don't want to hear
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: that because of how bad it was, you know, two
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: days ago.
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, this is a spot. Canales Stroh is 12-10
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: in his tenure here in games after a loss, over 500.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: And it's 8-3. Since the start of last year. Since
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: they improved that roster. And it's 12-10 overall.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: 12-10 overall, a lot less impressive than 8-3.
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: We're just throwing out the same stats over and over again.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: 8-3 speaks volumes. That first year, Bone, was different. But
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: the last two years, they have really rose up in
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: these spots. Whereas Sunday's game, Stroh, as we just go
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: total Elias Sports Bureau on you right now with stats.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: But Sunday's game was the sixth game out of six.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: since the start of last year, or actually in the
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: Canales era, where they played a game with a winning
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: record going in, and they have not won a game yet.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: So they don't handle the prosperity bone, but when they
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: have a rough result, they do seem to galvanize themselves
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: and raise up.
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: Our friends from NFL Films are here, and there's a
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: boom right in front of Mac's face. And I'm hoping
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: it hits him in the head here at some point
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: during this segment.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: I thought there was a hamster above my head there,
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: that little furry critter there.
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: But anyway. This is what we do, Stro. We're TV,
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: we're radio, we're anything you need.
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: I was going to say, are we going to catch
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: you on a Netflix or NFL films TV debut coming
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: up here?
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: It's for the Amazon pregame, I guess, or start of
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: the broadcast. I don't know if you watched the start
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: of like the game broadcast on Amazon Prime.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: They're getting all kind of love now.
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: It's a new Amazon true crime documentary on the Bucks
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: Panthers game the other day.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: So anyway, they always will have a couple of quick
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: clips when they count down like the 72 hours to
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: the game. It'll often include, like, sports radio clips from
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: each town. Usually it's Mackie yelling, honestly, to be fair.
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: I'm disappointed they didn't get a victory dance because talk
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: about a ratings boost.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: I know. I know, man. I would love to dance.
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: I even had my pirate outfit arrive the other day.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: Amazon would have loved that.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: Bone is being accused of cursing the team by a few,
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: not many, but by a few listeners because he bought
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: a pirate outfit so he could do a victory dance
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: themed on beating the Bucs. Do you think that's a
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: problem or no?
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: No, I think that's, you know, since that's a division rival,
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: that's just a costume that you can keep to use
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: whenever wins happen over the Bucs.
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: There you go.
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: That's how I feel about that.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: That's the key bone, divisional game.
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: I have a theory that the Panthers wouldn't have won
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: if I didn't buy that costume.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: You don't think it would have helped the run defense
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: at all?
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: I really don't think I was helping out either way.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: That's actually a very valid, logical point as well. But
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: at some point we'll beat the Bucs. Just don't ask
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: me when. It's going to actually occur. Oh, man. So Stroh,
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: I feel like a texter is saying, can you give
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: Stroh an update on Fitty's love life? Fitty, your love
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: life becomes more like a married couple's love life every week.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: It's almost like there's not a, like, would you say
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: there's an update for Stroh, Finney, or not really?
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: I mean, she met the family over the weekend. So
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: she met my dad, stepmom, and my three siblings.
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: That's big.
• 29:19
  Speaker 6: I took her home for the first time.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: That's big right there, man.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: I guess that's an update. Went to.
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: Halloween festival on Sunday night with her.
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: These are getting less exciting as we go along here.
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: Last Tuesday was Dancing with the Stars night. It was
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: a dedication night.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: Welcome to the club, man. What did Bone say? He's
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: now living Mac's life, and that was not meant as
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: a compliment, Stro.
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: No, it's not.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: No, we're trending in the wrong direction here. What do
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: you think, Stro? I just feel happiness for fitting. It's
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: not exciting, but it's happy.
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: I know, right? But you know what? He's had to
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: live through so many different crazy dating moments and the
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: rollercoaster ride, and now we can let him be boring
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: if that means it's happy, right? And so, one, I
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: need to know, did you get a follow-up from the family?
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: And two, I love that you're having Dancing with the
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: Stars night, and I need to see... that incorporated with
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: Mac and bone into the next victory Monday dance. I'm
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: just going to leave that there.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Let's do a Foxtrot Finney for our next victory dance.
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah. I need like a lift or, you know, like
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: a twirl lift, a whole, I'm going to send you
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: some clips in the group chat after this. I've got
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: some ideas.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: I feel like none of us can be lifted though.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: Are any of us thin enough to be lifted?
• 30:38
  Speaker 6: Remember last year I picked you up on my legs.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: Maybe we're the ones to do it fit.
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: I can, I got you.
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure I can lift or twirl. All right, Stroh.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: Hey, we appreciate it. Interesting comments about the booing. We're
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: probably going to have to have a conversation, Bo, tomorrow
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: about just in general the fact that the Hornets in
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: their home opener and the Panthers both got booed on
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: Saturday and just kind of where everybody stands on booing
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: in general, but Charlotte sports fans doing it in these instances.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: All right, Stroh, be good. Anything you need to share
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: with us, Stroh?
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: I was just going to say, you know, at least
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: the booing means you care.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: We're looking for a positive.
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: It means you got passion. And Fitty did say to
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: me in the break that he was at both of
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: those games in which fans were booing. So I don't know.
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: We might need to look at that.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Nonetheless, that's all guys.
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: All right, Stro. Be good.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: We appreciate you as well. Are we blaming Fitty or
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: are we blaming Willie Bone, who not only was at
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: the two games that went so bad the fans were booing,
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: but he also called Charlotte FC's.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Loss on literally the last kick of the game.
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: If the Hornets collapsed in full on Saturday night, Willie
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: was part of all four events, right? Both Hornets games,
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: the Panthers and FC. Although the Hornets he couldn't have
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: been involved in, right? Because FC was playing that night. Oh, yeah,
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: you're right.
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: But Walker brought it. I was so excited.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: You were close to pinning them all on Willie. Walker
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: had a hell of a point, though. What if, you
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: know how the Hornets blew that 20-point lead, Bone, obviously, right?
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: And then they had to rebound in the fourth quarter.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: If they, like you said, blew that lead, where does,
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: and Walker was saying it, where does that weekend go?
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: come up in Charlotte sports history horrendous weekends.
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: Near the bottom of the lake? Very, very close to
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: the bottom. Maybe where I would have been also at
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: the same time? Very close to the bottom. But we're on, baby.
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: At some point, we got to move on to Green Bay, man.
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: Lambeau cheese, we got to move on to it. Quick turnaround.
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: You got to turn the page quickly on these Thursday
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: night games. We'll talk more about that and more. The
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: wrap-up on Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ. Next, Mac and Bone Show.
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ. Shout out to everybody texting the
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: show today. Y'all are passionate. We don't agree on all
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: this stuff. Who's to blame and what needs to be
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: done to those that we do blame? But I love
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: the passion and I know. By the way, did you
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: see what Mike Florio wrote on his website yesterday about
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: the Panthers fans?
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: I did not see it, no.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: We played the clip earlier of Florio and Sims, and
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: mostly Sims, mocking the Panthers because they mocked his Eagles
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: prediction the week before. And Sims was having fun mocking
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: the Panthers for losing to the Bucs, calling them wussy
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: cats and all this stuff. Florio, who has been getting
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: Sims back against the Panthers, threw in a line bone.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: They were talking about how good the ratings were. For
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: Thursday night football last week, why not? Caleb Williams, Drake May, right?
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: And then they were talking about, will they be as
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: good moving forward? And they brought up the Packers and
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: the Panther game. And Florio says, you know the Packer
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: fans always tune in for every game their boys are playing.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: But I could see the Panthers fans after the 30-point
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: loss tuning out. And it's like, is that just a
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: shot because, like, Sims, your boy Sims is fighting with
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: the Panther social admin?
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the Panthers have been three and three. We've seen
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: a lot worse here, all right? This is nothing.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: Now, listen, we have seen the fans bail out. I
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: ain't going to lie to you.
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: Yes. Not yet, though.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: But three and three leading the South. leading the division, baby,
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: as the reigning champs. We are going to be locked in.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: But with that said, though, Bone, I will, as much
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: as I, we gave the stats earlier about the bounce
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: backs of this team, especially the last two years under
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: Dave Canales, I will still be watching the game with
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: some trepidation.
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: And fear, right?
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: Because if the bad Panthers show up, Bone, It's no
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: fun for anybody in Charlotte if the bad version shows up.
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: Well, maybe the good one shows up because it is
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: a short week, and they have to do the thing
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: where they bury that one very quickly and move on.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: It's a different week, and maybe that benefits the Panthers
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: in the long run. I know it's a short week
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: for us. Tuesday is normally my off day from working out, Mac,
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: but we've got a game on Thursday. I'm working out today.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: I thought Wednesday was your off day.
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: I'm not just saying that because NFL Films is here.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: You want them to use the clip where you talk
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: about how you work out six days a week?
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: You're darn right I do.
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: Shout out to Formal Timothy Bone, who has sent an
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: interesting text in about the booing on Sunday. And also
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: shout out, he had a jersey tee on Bone that
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: said Formal Tim on the back.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: He has personalized.
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: Oh, his own jersey. His jersey.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: So anyway, he says the boos didn't just rain down
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: because of the performance. It's also the expectation that comes
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: with what the game meant. Divisional opponent, first place on
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: the line, or division lead on the line, the excitement
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: to see the team take care of business home. That
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: place was so optimistic going in, and it was a
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: shock to the system bones seeing the way they played.
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: It was the most optimistic I've seen a fan base
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: since Friday night's Hornets game. Yeah.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: Where they lost by 47. Everybody was pumped in the building, though?
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: Everybody was.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: People were dancing. I mean, old men butter turning. It
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: was a full-on vibe. By the time I got home
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: from the pregame show, we were down by 24. It's
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: the hope that kills you.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: That's the saying.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: The Panthers have given us reason to hope.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying, Bone, we're winning the greatest division in
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: the history of football, but we won it last year,
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: put on a good show in the playoffs, and then
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: won a couple in a row, had an actual over
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: 500 record, which doesn't mean a lot to some fan bases,
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: but means something here. So we were filled with hope.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: And this team, the ability, Bone, to handle any prosperity...
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: by this team recently, like literally can't win when a
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: game over 500 is a bit disturbing.
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: Good point by Walls on the text line. People booing
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: is not a bad thing because that means they care.
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: It's when no one says a word and they're indifferent,
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: which we call the Matt Ruehra. It's true.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: It's when the fans don't show up.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: Everybody is either an empty seat or an enemy gear.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: Like we've seen that because people are fired up.
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: At least you could hear our fan base booing and
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: not the other team cheering.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: There you go. That's positive.
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: I thought they called me Mr. Brightside.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: The thing that sucks, Bone, about it is that stadium
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: was so overwhelmingly Panther fan-filled. The Bucs fans were not
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: doing the kind of takeovers that the Lions or the
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: Bears fans did previously, where it was like, how are
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: there this many fans here? Like, there were not many
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: Bucs fans at all, and it was such a great atmosphere.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: And then the team said, nope, we're going to ruin
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: your Sunday.
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: Mac, I've got bad news. Husky Pants on our text
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: line just invited me to work out with them at
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: some place called Cliffhangers. That's his spot, yeah. Where they
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: wall climb. Oh, I need video of that. Let me
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: tell you where this body's not going. That's climbing walls.
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: I need video of that so badly, Bone. I need
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: you dangling off that damn wall. I don't like heights
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: or moving, never mind up a wall. Oh, my God.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: All right, let's read some of these. Who does that?
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: Who wants to climb walls?
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: What?
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: He told me about that place. He said Dale Earnhardt,
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: I guess he works there, Husky Pants does, and it's up,
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: where the heck's Cliffhangers?
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: I think it's up kind of your way. But Dale
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: Earnhardt Jr.
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: 's wife went in there and was talking about it
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: on their podcast, was raving about it.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: His place, Cliffhangers. He was very excited about that.
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: If I climb that wall, there's a chance I'm not
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: coming down.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: Or if you're coming down, it's a lot quicker than
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: you want to come down. All right, let's read some
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: of these texts here.
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: Thank you, guys. Shout out to the NFL Films folks.
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: My story of climbing walls will run about here.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: They said, I think we're done with serious Panther content.
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: Was it something I said? The last time they came in,
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: they did four hours of filming and they got you
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: on there for 3.4 seconds.
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: It's not going to be much. I told my family
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: I'm on Amazon. I'm going to be on Amazon. I'm
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: going to be like Sneaky Pete was on there. Great
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: show on there. No, I wasn't on there for more
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: than three seconds. But this time I feel in my bones.
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: You think you made it? I'm going to be an
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: Amazon star.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: And we were both dueling to make the best Panther
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: Packer point so that we get our three seconds on there.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: On Thursday.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: I had a thought, though, Bone, during that segment, because
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: they came in during the Stroh segment and we're recording there.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: What if Stroh's comments make the pregame and we on
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: our own show don't make the Amazon Prime pregame?
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, what if this gets Stroh hired by Amazon?
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: I'd feel happy for her. But damn, I want my
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: 3.2 seconds, man. You know what I'm saying? Oh, my goodness.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: Big Cat Dan says flush it already. I think it's
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: safe to say, Bone, we will flush now. I think
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: it's safe to say if we need a plunger, we
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: might need a plunger, but we will flush, and tomorrow
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: we will be moving on.
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: Okay, I think it's time. Mack, we have a quick update.
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: Wasn't Weatherman Mark going ballistic for a couple days on
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: the Panthers? Didn't he go off on the post game?
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: Wasn't Weatherman Mark going nuts the other day on how much,
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: how bad the defense is?
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: I don't know if he called post game, but social media.
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I mean. You know the text line
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: I mean.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: Where I come from, you don't boo your home team.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's all over the place, Mark.
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: I'm convinced. Are there two Weatherman Marks? We thought there
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: was at one point. Or are there multiple personalities of
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: Weatherman Mark? We've got to investigate this man. This man
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: is all over the place, Bo.
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: I don't know. It's hard. It's hard to keep up.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: Although, what did Buckner say about me today on the show?
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: He says, Mac, you can't beat a guy that runs
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: the parade and the funeral.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: He accused me of doing that.
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: What a line.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: What a line.
• 40:53
  Speaker 6: Oh, man.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: All right, we got to get out of here, y'all.
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: I did the same for Shane Beamer. That is true.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: That is true.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: Although you went from funeral first to parade. You did
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: the different order. All right, we got to get out
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: of here, y'all.
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: Hornets 3-1.
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: Hopefully we emotionally helped you get through Sunday tomorrow. we're
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: going to start talking about that Packers game, which is
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: no easy freaking test. And they are coming off a
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: loss where they think the ref screwed them out of
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: the game, Bone. So they're going to come in angry, too.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: We'll talk about it tomorrow on the show. Good work
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: out of the fit dog, the Bone Man. We will
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: talk to you all tomorrow right here on the Mac
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: and Bone Show. Colin Hoggard, Charlotte Sports Today, coming up next.