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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome to Buckeyees tomorrow morning for Monday, August eleventh. I'm
- 0:03Speaker 1: your host, tom Or the Texas game in nineteen days. Yes,
- 0:06Speaker 1: we are under three weeks away from the season opener,
- 0:10Speaker 1: the game against Michigan in one hundred and ten days.
- 0:14Speaker 1: On the show, you're going to get to hear from
- 0:15Speaker 1: Ohio State running backs coach Carlos Lachlan. He is one
- 0:19Speaker 1: of the more interesting and intense interviews on this year's
- 0:23Speaker 1: Ohio State coaching staff and team on the whole. He's
- 0:27Speaker 1: an interesting guy because you'll ask a question and you'll
- 0:30Speaker 1: sometimes get an answer that's very clearly a response to
- 0:34Speaker 1: the question that you're asking, and sometimes you get an
- 0:36Speaker 1: answer where he rejects the premise of your question and
- 0:40Speaker 1: he chooses to answer the question that he feels you
- 0:42Speaker 1: should have asked. So you get some interesting answers where
- 0:45Speaker 1: there's gonna be a little bit bit of a disconnect.
- 0:47Speaker 1: I'm going to set these questions up with the way
- 0:49Speaker 1: they were asked initially by various reporters during the pressed
- 0:53Speaker 1: and availability towards the end of last week, and you'll
- 0:56Speaker 1: see that some of them match and some of them don't.
- 0:58Speaker 1: But the answers are all very interesting and one other thing,
- 1:02Speaker 1: you get some of the deepest answers from him towards
- 1:04Speaker 1: the end of this. This is just kind of sequentially
- 1:06Speaker 1: going through that interview session with him late last week.
- 1:10Speaker 1: Some of the best stuff towards the end, So do
- 1:12Speaker 1: stick around for that. So all right, we're gonna start
- 1:15Speaker 1: with just how frands for running back? CJ. Donaldson has
- 1:19Speaker 1: some experience playing in various offenses in high school and
- 1:23Speaker 1: obviously at West Virginia before he transferred to Ohio State,
- 1:26Speaker 1: but this is definitely gonna be the most advanced passing
- 1:28Speaker 1: offense he's been in. So how does playing in a
- 1:31Speaker 1: more advanced passing offense maybe potentially benefit him?
- 1:35Speaker 2: He's come here to work on he knows the things
- 1:36Speaker 2: he had to work on, bringing that intensity every day.
- 1:41Speaker 2: But now of Coase, they said best Now they ain't
- 1:44Speaker 2: just on the kid, that's on the coach. No, he's
- 1:46Speaker 2: gonna play in my temperament the way the tippleman I
- 1:49Speaker 2: coached him. That's what the kid gonna play with. If
- 1:52Speaker 2: I come out there, luke Warm, he gonna play with
- 1:54Speaker 2: luke Warm. Yeah, we don't do that here. You ain't
- 1:56Speaker 2: allowed to have a bad day here at the Ohio State.
- 1:58Speaker 2: So he's gonna come out there, he's gonna play hard.
- 2:00Speaker 1: And you got kind of another question here, and it
- 2:03Speaker 1: was sort of related to that first one in terms
- 2:05Speaker 1: of C. J. Jonaldson in terms of that passing offense,
- 2:07Speaker 1: and you know, does that maybe open things up for him,
- 2:10Speaker 1: give him a little more room to run than he's
- 2:12Speaker 1: had before in his college career.
- 2:14Speaker 2: So I don't know what they do up there in Morgantown.
- 2:16Speaker 2: I just know what we do in the Columbus. If
- 2:18Speaker 2: he got a small hole, he better figure out way
- 2:21Speaker 2: to get through there.
- 2:22Speaker 3: If he got a big hole, same thing, run through it.
- 2:25Speaker 2: So I don't know what they do up there, but
- 2:26Speaker 2: I know what the standard is here, has to run
- 2:28Speaker 2: the day like that.
- 2:29Speaker 1: Here's another one where he kind of rejects the premise
- 2:32Speaker 1: of the question a little bit. The question is about
- 2:35Speaker 1: whether they're looking at having a two running back rotation
- 2:38Speaker 1: like they had last year.
- 2:40Speaker 2: Last year's last year. I know, y'all he asking that question.
- 2:42Speaker 2: Those kids, they're not queue and trade. They're themselves. That's
- 2:46Speaker 2: how I want them to be themselves.
- 2:47Speaker 3: That's it.
- 2:48Speaker 2: I don't want to be nobody else. But themselves, be
- 2:50Speaker 2: cause coach Locke only, I'm only trying to be who me.
- 2:53Speaker 3: I'm trying to be me.
- 2:54Speaker 2: So they got to feel their own shoes. Those things
- 2:57Speaker 2: will say to themselves. We compete out there every day.
- 3:00Speaker 2: If you think you'll arrived in that room, you're gonna
- 3:03Speaker 2: get your feelings hurt because I'm gonna make sure I
- 3:04Speaker 2: heard them. You got to come to work every day.
- 3:06Speaker 2: You better if you don't humble yourself, I will.
- 3:09Speaker 1: One of these signature things about last year's offense and
- 3:12Speaker 1: running game was the pass protection. You saw some blitz
- 3:16Speaker 1: pick ups from guys like Travian Henderson that were just
- 3:19Speaker 1: absolute highlight, real blitz pickups if such a thing exists.
- 3:23Speaker 1: So how was that pass pro coming? Along with this
- 3:25Speaker 1: year's running backs.
- 3:26Speaker 3: They're getting better, they're getting bell.
- 3:28Speaker 2: No, you had one of the best guys to do
- 3:30Speaker 2: it last year, and Trey and James is getting better
- 3:34Speaker 2: at it. CJ, the young fellow, Bo Jackson, all of them.
- 3:36Speaker 2: They know that's a priority. Now two things in that room.
- 3:39Speaker 2: You're gonna own the ball and you ain't gonna give
- 3:41Speaker 2: up six, and you got to take pride.
- 3:42Speaker 3: That's the stand up. So they're all getting better.
- 3:44Speaker 1: At Here's another one where the answer is not quite
- 3:47Speaker 1: directly addressing the question, but it's an interesting answer. Nonetheless,
- 3:51Speaker 1: last year you had two Ohio state running backs with
- 3:54Speaker 1: John Jenkins and Travion Henderson, who each finished the year
- 3:57Speaker 1: with a thousand yards rushing. Is that the standard again
- 4:00Speaker 1: this year? Two guys rushing for a thousand yards each.
- 4:03Speaker 2: Everybody keep saying two different guys. It's six guys. Now
- 4:08Speaker 2: you better compete. Every day you keep saying it's two
- 4:11Speaker 2: different guys. Ain't nobody in that room or Ryan, They
- 4:13Speaker 2: ain't done the damn thing here yet, So everybody in
- 4:15Speaker 2: there competing. I don't want my kids having that in
- 4:18Speaker 2: their head. They need to come out, well, I don't
- 4:19Speaker 2: have I'm not on the field. I got to compete,
- 4:22Speaker 2: got to come to work every day because they ain't
- 4:23Speaker 2: nothing gonna be giving here. So their mindset is, I
- 4:27Speaker 2: better come to work every day. I better be on
- 4:29Speaker 2: special teams. I better be forty six eighty B plus two.
- 4:33Speaker 2: That's the mindset, coach, they want. I better do that
- 4:36Speaker 2: every day. So that better be their mindset. And I'm
- 4:39Speaker 2: worried about, Oh, it's a two man rotation. You better
- 4:41Speaker 2: be worried about Hey, what I'm showing on film every day?
- 4:44Speaker 3: All right?
- 4:44Speaker 1: So't want to talk about to guys. He wants to
- 4:46Speaker 1: talk about six guys. So how many of those six
- 4:48Speaker 1: guys is he comfortable with playing? Right now?
- 4:51Speaker 3: Them things take care of themselves.
- 4:53Speaker 2: If all six on, good all six on play, because
- 4:57Speaker 2: if they're good enough, they would they're old enough you
- 4:59Speaker 2: put them on the Them things take care of theirself.
- 5:02Speaker 2: You know, that's a lot of problems with these young kids.
- 5:05Speaker 2: They come here and they want their microwave success. You
- 5:07Speaker 2: got to work here. You gotta work. I tell you
- 5:09Speaker 2: all the time. These kids don't take on my mindset.
- 5:11Speaker 2: I'm still working like I'm the guy changing the dog
- 5:14Speaker 2: on bathrooms and parkalizing Memphis. Still working the same way.
- 5:17Speaker 2: You gotta work. It's about working. If you work, those
- 5:20Speaker 2: things take care of themselves.
- 5:22Speaker 1: The guy who's sort of presumed to be the starter
- 5:24Speaker 1: this year is James Peoples. What's the biggest difference in
- 5:27Speaker 1: his game from this time last year to now?
- 5:29Speaker 2: I mean, he's more knowledgeable of the game, but that
- 5:31Speaker 2: comes with coaching. You know, he still he knows things.
- 5:34Speaker 2: He still got to work on. But nobody played meaning
- 5:37Speaker 2: for minutes in the game yet, So I can't really
- 5:39Speaker 2: tell you that. You know, we all assume this is
- 5:42Speaker 2: what's gonna be and my mindset, and that's not his mindset.
- 5:46Speaker 3: He know he better work every day.
- 5:48Speaker 2: But I've seen growth in him and how he prepares,
- 5:50Speaker 2: you know, being on time for meetings. You know, all
- 5:52Speaker 2: my guys they take the field together, they buying into
- 5:54Speaker 2: one another. So I see growth in that aspect of
- 5:57Speaker 2: him trying to grow in as a leader.
- 6:00Speaker 1: Is that mindset something that he came to Ohio State
- 6:02Speaker 1: with or is that something that developed since he's gotten
- 6:05Speaker 1: to Columbus.
- 6:06Speaker 2: He ain't got no choice who mindset he's taking on mine?
- 6:09Speaker 2: So he ain't got he ain't got no. He ain't
- 6:11Speaker 2: got no choice either he gonna take on my mindset
- 6:14Speaker 2: or I'm gonna go at him every day. If he
- 6:16Speaker 2: tell you, he'll tell you that he gonna go at
- 6:17Speaker 2: you every day. He gonna take on my mindset. If
- 6:20Speaker 2: the kid, if the kid come out there with like
- 6:22Speaker 2: I said, well, luke warm enthusiasm, no passion, play for
- 6:24Speaker 2: the game. It ain't the kid who it is the coach.
- 6:28Speaker 2: So he gonna take on my mindset. And he has
- 6:30Speaker 2: done that. He comes out there, He's physical, plays with passion.
- 6:33Speaker 3: He does his job.
- 6:34Speaker 1: One of the storylines with CJ. Donaldson is the fact
- 6:36Speaker 1: that he's dropped a bunch of weight since getting to
- 6:38Speaker 1: Ohio State. Coach Mick has had him busy in the
- 6:41Speaker 1: weight room. He's lost twenty five twenty twenty twenty five
- 6:44Speaker 1: pounds since getting to Columbus. Is that something that when
- 6:47Speaker 1: they were looking at him in the portal? Is that
- 6:49Speaker 1: something that they thought, Ah, we're gonna be able to
- 6:51Speaker 1: do this or was that you know what? What else
- 6:54Speaker 1: attracted them to him?
- 6:55Speaker 3: Well, I know why I talked to you.
- 6:57Speaker 2: I mean, I knew I could coach him hard, and
- 6:59Speaker 2: he wanted to be coach hard because, like I said,
- 7:01Speaker 2: that's the number one thing I got to find out.
- 7:03Speaker 3: Because I'm gonna go at you.
- 7:05Speaker 2: But he has a unique skill set, big guy, great
- 7:08Speaker 2: for a boy, the name, good feet, good show, are
- 7:10Speaker 2: your burst and thanks. He know the things he had
- 7:13Speaker 2: to continue to work on. But I like the skill
- 7:15Speaker 2: set and he's a bigger back. And then he's a
- 7:18Speaker 2: very intelligent football player.
- 7:20Speaker 3: He's smart.
- 7:21Speaker 2: So now having conversation with him talking ball, that would
- 7:24Speaker 2: impress me about him.
- 7:26Speaker 1: Among the six guys in that running back room this
- 7:28Speaker 1: year is Turbo Rogers. He got here over the summer,
- 7:31Speaker 1: so he missed out on spring ball. So where are
- 7:34Speaker 1: things with Turbo Rogers right now?
- 7:37Speaker 3: All right, Well, he's getting better.
- 7:40Speaker 2: Gonna coach him hard, but you know, he just got
- 7:43Speaker 2: here in June, so he's still getting acclimated to being here.
- 7:48Speaker 2: But he has a he has a chance to be
- 7:50Speaker 2: a good player. Uh, just gonna continue to coach him hard.
- 7:53Speaker 2: But he has a skill set just like the rest
- 7:55Speaker 2: of the guys. But he's gonna be good.
- 7:57Speaker 1: Here's another one on CJ. Donalds, and he played received
- 8:00Speaker 1: before being coming a running back, So how has he
- 8:03Speaker 1: seen that? Maybe play out in CJ's game on the field.
- 8:07Speaker 2: I mean he catch football. I mean, ain't gonna tell you, hey,
- 8:09Speaker 2: we're doing this, doing that. We still got to play
- 8:11Speaker 2: on the thirties. But he has a unique skill set.
- 8:14Speaker 2: All of them can catch the ball, every last.
- 8:16Speaker 3: One of them.
- 8:16Speaker 2: I'm not gonna recruit you if you can't catch the ball,
- 8:18Speaker 2: and coach Daymo definitely ain't gonna allow me to get
- 8:20Speaker 2: you if you can't catch the ball. It's the first
- 8:22Speaker 2: thing he's gonna ask. So but all of them catch
- 8:24Speaker 2: the ball. He does a good job catching the ball.
- 8:26Speaker 1: You've heard Lachlan talk about coaching these guys hard, So
- 8:29Speaker 1: what does that actually look like on the practice field.
- 8:32Speaker 2: When you when you truly you can't coach a kid hard,
- 8:36Speaker 2: and you know until you know your heart that you
- 8:38Speaker 2: love the kid.
- 8:39Speaker 3: And if the kid know that, they gonna allow you
- 8:40Speaker 3: to coach hard.
- 8:41Speaker 2: None of my kids take offense to it because I'm
- 8:44Speaker 2: gonna wrap my arms around him after I got on
- 8:46Speaker 2: to him and tell them, all right, this is what
- 8:48Speaker 2: I this is what I want you to do.
- 8:50Speaker 3: But can I demonstrate that?
- 8:51Speaker 2: Nah, It's just when I crossed that scard line, I
- 8:54Speaker 2: turn into a whole another person.
- 8:56Speaker 3: But I go at them.
- 8:57Speaker 2: They starts in the mean room there without my wife
- 9:02Speaker 2: beat me up at home where I come at them
- 9:03Speaker 2: in there. But I'm trying to set them. It's a
- 9:05Speaker 2: mindset I'm trying. I don't even say nothing in the game,
- 9:10Speaker 2: it's a mindset. No, they didn't come here for me
- 9:13Speaker 2: to be nice to them. I told them I ain't
- 9:15Speaker 2: your best friend. I'm not trying to be your best friend.
- 9:18Speaker 2: If you want to be my friend, guess how you
- 9:19Speaker 2: be my friend? Make place, do your job. We can
- 9:23Speaker 2: be best friends all day. Then you told me you
- 9:26Speaker 2: want to become the best runner back, you want to
- 9:28Speaker 2: be developed. Well, guess what that takes. That takes me
- 9:31Speaker 2: having tough love. Sometimes that takes me to have to
- 9:33Speaker 2: get at you. Sometimes I'm not gonna teach you because
- 9:36Speaker 2: I dance cheat myself. I'm gonna go at you. So
- 9:39Speaker 2: that's where that comes from. So I can't demonstrate it.
- 9:42Speaker 2: It ain't like it ain't like it's an act. It's
- 9:44Speaker 2: just when I'm out there on the field, I am
- 9:46Speaker 2: going at my kids.
- 9:48Speaker 1: At any point has Carlos Laughlan looked back at how
- 9:50Speaker 1: hard he's coached these guys and thought, maybe maybe I
- 9:53Speaker 1: went too far.
- 9:54Speaker 2: Na because it came out of my mouth. Guess what
- 9:57Speaker 2: I meant it now, I don't cuss my kids. They'll
- 10:00Speaker 2: tell you that they get too I get two words.
- 10:02Speaker 2: I ask God for two words. I don't coach that
- 10:05Speaker 2: my kids. That's for two words. One of them might
- 10:08Speaker 2: see hear damn every now and then I apologize. I
- 10:10Speaker 2: asked God, please let me keep that one now forgive me.
- 10:14Speaker 2: And the other one is they know when I get upset,
- 10:16Speaker 2: they hit the word boy I'm country and it'll come
- 10:19Speaker 2: out of my mouth. But other than that, I respect
- 10:20Speaker 2: my kids. I love them. You never see talk back
- 10:23Speaker 2: to me. They just say yes, sir. That's a sign
- 10:25Speaker 2: of respect and love. They know I care about them.
- 10:27Speaker 2: So but I love coaching, man, love pointing to these kids.
- 10:32Speaker 1: And finally, is there any kind of like an acclamation
- 10:35Speaker 1: process for guys or does he just dive right in
- 10:38Speaker 1: on them on that first day they're they're on campus
- 10:40Speaker 1: in terms of what it's going to be like to
- 10:42Speaker 1: play for them and how hard they're going to get coach.
- 10:46Speaker 3: I ain't no acclamation to start and recruit.
- 10:48Speaker 2: I tell them when they when I'm when I'm recruiting,
- 10:50Speaker 2: being in a relationship with her, I angel homeboy, you
- 10:54Speaker 2: come here, I'm gonna coach you hard. But they also
- 10:56Speaker 2: understand that you know and Turboil tell you and I
- 10:59Speaker 2: been knowing this, he been thirteen board tell you and
- 11:02Speaker 2: Isaiah and I had this conversation with them. It's bigger
- 11:05Speaker 2: than football. It's bigger than football. They'll tell you that.
- 11:08Speaker 2: With me, it's bigger than football. I'm trying to prepare
- 11:10Speaker 2: you for life, trying to give you some tools of life.
- 11:13Speaker 2: I'm gonna challenge you out there on the field. You're
- 11:15Speaker 2: gonna feel uncomfortable, because gets what as people, we are
- 11:18Speaker 2: uncomfortable in life. We all go through uncomfortable situations. How
- 11:21Speaker 2: you gonna have diversity? If I just talk about football
- 11:24Speaker 2: out there with them men, I'm setting them up for failure, y'all.
- 11:27Speaker 2: It's bigger than bold. That ball going flat someday, and
- 11:30Speaker 2: I don't want no young men to come across my path.
- 11:32Speaker 3: And the only thing he learned from me is how to.
- 11:34Speaker 2: Pass, protect, how to run counter, how to power. But
- 11:38Speaker 2: I ain't give him the tools what it is to
- 11:40Speaker 2: be a man of faith, to be a husband one day,
- 11:44Speaker 2: to be a to see what it is to be
- 11:45Speaker 2: a good father, to be just a good citizen. And
- 11:48Speaker 2: only if that's all that I gave him was as
- 11:50Speaker 2: a football and I pat him on the back, I
- 11:52Speaker 2: ain't done my job.
- 11:53Speaker 3: So I'm gonna challenge him.
- 11:55Speaker 2: In in those ways. So it starts through the recruiting process.
- 11:58Speaker 2: They know what it is, but they know it's bigger
- 12:00Speaker 2: than football. I'm trying to prepare them for life because
- 12:03Speaker 2: the ball going what one day, it's going flat?
- 12:06Speaker 3: All right?
- 12:06Speaker 1: Hope you guys enjoyed that one. Carlos Laughlin is always
- 12:09Speaker 1: one of the really really interesting interviews because you get
- 12:12Speaker 1: some different types of answers from him then you'll get
- 12:15Speaker 1: from a lot of other coaches. So we will hope
- 12:17Speaker 1: you guys enjoyed that running back room definitely going to
- 12:20Speaker 1: be one of the hot topics this fall as they
- 12:22Speaker 1: look to replace Quinnhawn Judkins and Trevion Henderson with a
- 12:25Speaker 1: bunch of new guys, a bunch of transfers, a bunch
- 12:28Speaker 1: of first time starters. So gonna be a lot of
- 12:29Speaker 1: interesting stuff to watch in that running back room. But
- 12:32Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of interesting stuff to watch
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