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Tony Mazur, how's it going? Good. How are you,
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my friend? I'm doing good. I'll tell you the
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weirdest thing. I called my mom earlier on the
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show to talk about the Bears winning, and it
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took two calls to get a hold of my mom, so there's
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some glitch with Google Voice, you know? Technology
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is just doing so well, but how are you, Tony?
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Good. Am I on the air? It's a podcast that airs
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the next day, so you can say whatever the fuck
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you want, but what's up, dude? I don't use that
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kind of blue language here on my podcast or anyone
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else's. Of course not. You don't have to worry
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about that. How the hell are you, bro? Oh, I'm
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fine. I contacted you the other day. Yeah, she
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did. About a little topic. Okay, you remember
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when I used to get really drunk in Cleveland?
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I was like at that level, like beyond. Okay,
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so you were like ripped, torn drunk. Because
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that's when you were in Cleveland. Yeah, yeah,
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yeah, yeah. Big boy, like the big size high noons
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before. And then I had two high noons in the
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picture on my social media where I'm double fisting.
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Then I had two Jack and Cokes afterwards. And
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then a shot, like Scott Farrell's shot of beer.
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I had a shot of fireball at the game. So, yes,
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it was a lot. You really do sound like Scott
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Farrell right now. I have a sore throat from
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the weather changing. What's up, Tony Mazur?
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Yeah, that's what they call it. Here's my advice.
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As the elder statesman here, what I do when it
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comes to my drinking, I don't have an addictive
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personality, so I know how to handle it. And
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as I've gotten older, I've realized that if I
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did what you did, I probably wouldn't be able
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to talk to you right now. It would just be like,
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maybe tomorrow. How does that sound? Tony, it
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definitely affected me, but I mean, it's the
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weirdest thing. The Cubs and Red Sox playing
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at Tropicana Field, which, By the way, it was
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the loudest that I've ever heard Tropicana Field,
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and I've been to some exciting Rays games, so
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that was very weird. Because usually, because
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I'm a loud person, usually you can hear me across
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the stadium, but not this time. Yeah, as a millennial,
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I think we're required to enjoy or at least pretend
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to enjoy an IPA. Now, I actually do like IPAs,
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and the reason I defended it, I defended it in
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front of... uh, Jim Florentine, Don Jameson,
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not the name dropper. Um, but the reason is if
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I'm just drinking Coors Light or Mick Ultra all
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night, okay, it's going to take me 10 of those
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and I'm going to need a colostomy bag or like
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just something. I'm going to need something or
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I'm going to be like, who was it? Was it Ronnie?
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Who's the guy from Howard Stern who would go
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to the concerts where he'd wear a diaper? Richard,
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Richard, Richard. Richard, I knew it started
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with an R and a hard R. But he said that he would
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sit there or stand at a concert and know that
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if he were to drink, he didn't want to lose his
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spot. So he would get about maybe two or three
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pisses into his diaper before he needed to evacuate.
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And I'm like, you know what? Or how about this?
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I go get my Kona Big Wave. that is double the
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alcohol content than a mcultra would gets me
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a little bit buzzed and i need one instead of
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four now i think normal people out there would
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say why drink at all why can't you just enjoy
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the concert or enjoy the ball game and i'm like
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yeah well not all of us are as perfect as some
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of you well tony so so what i wanted to say was
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yeah what i do now if i know i'm going out and
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having a couple of adult beverages or several
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or uh too many where i'm should probably call
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an uber somewhere is i start with the heavy stuff
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first i start with those hoppy double citrusy
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whatever ipa to start and then i slow the night
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down so if you see me drinking mcultra or one
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of the seltzers that's when you know oh tony's
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wrapping his night up and i feel fine the next
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day but if i decide hey, I'll drink a Coors,
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then I'll have a Long Island iced tea. Whoops,
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sorry, alarm going off. Then I'll have a Long
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Island iced tea. I will do this, and then let's
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do shots, and I'll have another beer, and ooh,
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Jager Bomb, that sounds good to me. And by that
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time, it's just, yeah, there's a reason for it.
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Then I'm going to have to get back on the wagon
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somewhere. You texted me when I was at the game
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and you were talking about how you want to talk
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about the current state of the Howard Stern show.
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And the funny part is I grew up. I had just missed
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Stern when he went to serious. So I never heard
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him on over the air radio. And my first introduction
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to shock jocks for that format. To me, Mad Cow's
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not that similar to Stern. He's his own thing,
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but Rover's like a clear copycat. So I was a
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fan of Rover for about nine years until I worked
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with him. And then right when I got fired, this
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guy named Scott Medwetz, who used, I think that's
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his name, he used to work at iHeart, and we had
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this conversation late night after I got fired,
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and he told me to listen to Stern. And I listened
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to Stern, and I learned that Stern's a better
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version of Rover. So I've been listening to him
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since 2015. And I'm telling you, Tony, the show
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was still acceptable in 2019. Now that it's on
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Zoom, you don't have the spontaneity of the crew
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chiming in, defending themselves. And I don't
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know. What do you think? Well, I'm kind of the
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opposite of you where I haven't listened to him
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on Sirius. I couldn't tell you other than the
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clips that are posted online or now that we see
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that. He has gone down to one day a week, and
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his show is simulcast on, and not E, not WWOR
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Channel 9 in New York, Secaucus, New Jersey.
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It's now on HBO, HBO Max. And it's obviously
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not the same show. You and I talked about this
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six months ago when I was down in Tampa. We've
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talked about it over the years through text,
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through tweet, whatever. Yeah, it's not the same
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show, and it shouldn't be the same show. Of course
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not. The difference is what you do. going forward
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to adapt. And it's kind of more what I wanted
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to talk about is it's not so much a rip on Howard
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Stern because, look, I've said everything I've
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needed to say about Stern and some of the people
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like Stuttering John and everybody else throughout
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the years. But the thing is how you're seeing
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a generation of entertainers who at one time
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were the movers and shakers of culture. They
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were the people that when you woke up the next
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day they made the news that everybody it didn't
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matter how old you were or what you were doing
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what background you are you knew who howard stern
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was you knew who madonna was so the other night
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uh kind of one of the not just about howard stern
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but i wanted to talk about the vmas as well because
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madonna i didn't watch the vmas my wife asked
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me she's like did you i She's like, I know you
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didn't, but did you see anything from the VMAs?
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I said, I saw like three clips. I saw some guy
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do a horrible version of Father Figure by George
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Michael. I saw what was left of Nirvana, Pat
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Smear smoking a cigarette on stage for some video
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Vanguard award. And then I saw a little bit of
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Madonna acting like she's 20 -something, that
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she's rolling around in a wedding dress, singing
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Like a Virgin. Except the fact that, Madonna
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is older than my mother. Madonna is, she's almost
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70. But I was thinking about this because people
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have been talking about Sidney Sweeney and they've
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been all these other figures of what it meant
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to do something in culture. And you and I, we
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have a little bit of an age difference, but we're
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still in the same generation. I'm more of the
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older millennial. You're a very younger millennial.
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There was a time that when Madonna put something
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out, I would argue all the way up until she did
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that, we only got four minutes to save the world
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with Justin Timberlake. I love that song. It
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was good. It was entertaining. And it's like,
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well, we have to drop everything we're doing
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because Madonna has a new album out. She had
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a song called Revolver in 2010 that was an EDM
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remix with Lil Wayne. And it's a good song. I'm
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not going to lie. Yeah, and whether it's Ray
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of Light, whether it was Vogue, anything she
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did hit. And the same with Howard Stern. Now,
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what do they have in common? They are 1950s -born
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baby boomers who came of age in the late 70s
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to start off, definitely in the 80s, hit their
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peak sometime in the 1990s, and were able to
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ride that wave of relevance into the 2000s, into
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the 2010s. We're 40 plus years away from their
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initial impact. They're having issues clinging
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to that type of relevance. So I was listening
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to a podcast with Brett Weinstein, who's on Joe
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Rogan has his own show and everything. And he
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was saying, he's like, I'm Gen X. And I was raised
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during a time where we've had so many new. technological
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advances that have popped up. For being Gen X,
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it first was the computer, then it was the internet,
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then it was the early days of social media, then
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the smartphone. Now we're in wave five with the
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rise of AI. And each time that you would have
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those technological advances, you would see people
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who were so clung to the old medium start to
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drop off if they didn't adapt. And it's weird
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because you say, well, you should either adapt
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or end up just retiring. And the way I look at
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what's left of the Howard Stern show, what's
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left of Madonna, what's left of MTV, and not
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just MTV and the VMAs, but award shows in general,
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this is hearkening back to an older, obsolete
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era that somebody your age, whether you're 30
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and under, have no recollection, have no care
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about any of this stuff at what point do you
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do you feel like oh gosh i wonder who's going
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to win the award for best uh new artist best
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new no one cares anymore i remember the cultural
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impact of 2013 when uh miley danced uh what was
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it a wrecking ball that was a pretty big deal
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or Yeah, it was that whole era where she was...
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Yeah, that was the Robin Thicke Blurred Lines
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era. I think they've had to since apologize in
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the wake of the Me Too movement for that song.
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I mean, I don't know. I'm a little more... I'm
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not to the left, but I can see... My thing is
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I can see where people don't like the song, but
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it was funny. Everybody on Good Morning America
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was dancing to it 13 years ago. Yeah, I mean,
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but what you're bringing up is an interesting
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era that it doesn't seem like long ago, but it's
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2013. That on the news the next day and your
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morning zoo radio show like, hey, coming up at
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720, Miley last night was twerking at the VMAs.
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We'll tell you more about it next. But first,
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the traffic and weather update. And it's still
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that old medium. still had its relevance but
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then i think obviously covid but not just covid
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but covid that whole era changed viewing habits
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and listening habits to the point where as you
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and i talked about a couple of weeks ago or a
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month ago the the days of streaming now where
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it's not appointment listening where you have
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to listen to the you know hoppy hour the check
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your brain podcast from beginning to end It's
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a stream that's on for nine hours, and you come
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and go as you please. And that's just kind of
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the way it is. So you either fight it and just
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continue operating like business as usual, like
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it was in 2013, or you lean into it. Or the third
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option is you just go away. And I think a lot
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of people probably need to just start going away
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to maintain whatever's left of the legacy. was
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it a month ago that Dolly Parton died? And Dolly
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Parton, I did a whole podcast. It's kind of an
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ongoing thing why I wanted to talk to you about
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this. The death of monoculture. That when L .O.
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Langley's Choose in Texas is the number one song
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that's made history. It's now the number one
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song for the most consecutive weeks in the history
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of the Billboard chart. It's like 24, 25 straight
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weeks as of this phone conversation. And there
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are people, and I know people like this, who
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say, how is this the number one song in the country?
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I have never heard it in my entire life. And
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the way I look at it is, yeah, that makes sense,
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because we have now tailored our algorithms to
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being able to listen to what we want. That if
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you are not a country fan, there's a very good
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chance you will never hear of Ella Langley or
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Choose in Texas. If you are a country fan, you're
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probably... probably sick of the song by now
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but that that's all dependent on the person it's
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not dependent on what the country radio station
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has to say or country music television or whatever
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is being sent to people and essentially whenever
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i hear people say there's no good music out there
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i counter yeah there is there's great music It's
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just up to you to go find it. You're not going
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to go to the buzzard and listen to, oh, I wonder
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what the program director has decided we should
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listen to today. No, it's up to you. You want
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to hear good music that sounds like Led Zeppelin
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or something? There's Greta Van Fleet. You want
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something that sounds like Soundgarden? Well,
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there's other bands that sound like them, too,
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that are new and do a pretty good job. So it's
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a real interesting case study in real time. of
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how people are adapting going forward. The old
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generation that's clinging to relevance, like
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Howard Stern, like Madonna, and then the younger
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people who are kind of taking advantage of this
15:15
medium, and you're watching the cringeness of
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the boomers, of Gen X, even millennials who are
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trying to grasp whatever Gen Z is putting out
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there for us. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. feel
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like previous generations, like, not the ones
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before the boomers, I feel like they knew when
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to leave. I feel like, think about, like, I don't
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know, Andy Griffith, or, no, no, no, I got the
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best example. Johnny Carson. You never heard
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from him again. Bye. Yeah. The greatest, but
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after 93 or whatever, I mean, you might have
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saw him in, like, the front page of National
15:57
Enquirer, like, oh, did you see him eating? But,
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He never did anything. And to me, that's why,
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I mean, listen, when Jimmy Kimmel first went
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on and did Jimmy Kimmel Live in like the 2000s,
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before it got political, it was underground.
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It was funny. It was edgy. And then he became
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his own villain. And to me, that's the late night
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TV host. He's radio host. I mean, it's just,
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it's sad because I've even worked with people
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that have been around too long. They're just
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seeing the world change. And yeah, they have
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their audience. That's great. But you're the
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old guy now. Well, and also, do you know anybody
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who is your age or younger who is saying, gosh,
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did you hear what Stephen Colbert said last night?
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Okay, maybe not. He's been off the air for several
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months. Yeah, but no one. I will say. I wouldn't
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even say The Daily Show. No one's really talking
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about The Daily Show. people are getting their
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news from TikTok at this point. I would say,
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yeah. And I was just going to say about late
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night shows is that what they did is they took
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the Johnny Carson model of the monologue, the
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conversation with the band or Ed McMahon, maybe
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a sketch, and then you bring on the first guest
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and then the second guest and either a comedian
17:23
or musical act that goes up and then lights out,
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pull the curtain, that's it for the night for
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the show. And instead of saying, hey, let's kind
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of play with the format. We know what works,
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but that worked in the 70s and the 80s and early
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90s. Why can't we try something different? And
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instead, it's kind of an example of stuck culture
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is what I've been really fixated on is Jay Leno,
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David Letterman, Conan O 'Brien, Stephen Colbert,
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Jimmy Kimmel, Seth Meyers. Even to a certain
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extent, John Oliver and some of the others who
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faded away, whether it was The Magic Hour with
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Magic Johnson, all these did the exact same thing.
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Is it because somebody said, this works, do it?
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Or I'm afraid to take a chance because I could
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get fired. Like Conan O 'Brien, that first year
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when he started his show, every day they wondered
18:23
if they were going to get fired because no one
18:25
was watching it. But there was an underground
18:27
cult following that kind of kept it on the air.
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And unfortunately for Conan, he just leaned into,
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I guess this is what sells. I'm just going to
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do what Johnny Carson did. And it's unfortunate
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because I think Jimmy Kimmel, I think Jimmy Fallon,
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a lot of these people had a lot of talent. But
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when you got into that level of mainstream success,
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you just sold out. You just said, yep, no, I'm
18:51
just going to do this because, hey, I've got
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a beachfront property in Malibu. Tony, who do
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you think did not sell out and did it right?
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I would say... Well, ultimately, I would have
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originally said Dave Chappelle. If Dave Chappelle
19:09
walked away, whatever his reasoning was, because
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I think there were a couple of reasons as to
19:13
what happened, but the reason Chappelle's show
19:16
is still on Comedy Central right now, even though
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most of the references are not even relevant.
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I think the people who watch Comedy Central...
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uh they remember it but i don't know any zoomers
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who really care about comedy central um but he
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walked away before it got out of hand i was talking
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to i was talking to somebody recently about the
19:36
show archer great and the person i was talking
19:39
to was like oh like wow that show didn't really
19:41
last that long are you kidding me 12 years or
19:44
whatever it was yeah i said it was on like 10
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years and i looked it up no it was 14 years yeah
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it was on from 2009 until December of 2023. And
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I think they would have kept it going had Jessica
20:00
Walter not died. Yeah, and Ron Liebman, who was
20:04
her husband as well. True. They probably could
20:06
have kept it going. And the same with It's Always
20:08
Sunny in Philadelphia. I'm sure there's great
20:11
moments. I hear people say, oh, dude, the show's
20:13
actually funnier now. I'm like, okay, it's the
20:15
same people who say Howard Stern's funnier today
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than he was 30 years ago. What we talked about
20:23
six months ago on the show is people who stay
20:25
at the party too long. And Bob Hope stayed at
20:29
the party too long, and then he kind of became
20:31
a joke. There's only been a few examples of people
20:35
who kind of get out when they're on top. Some
20:38
could say that Jerry Seinfeld did that with the
20:40
show. They could have easily done a few more
20:44
seasons of Seinfeld, and it wouldn't have been
20:47
as good as it was when it was on. There's very
20:50
few examples. I like Shane Gillis. I think the
20:53
show Tires should probably go only one more season
20:57
because they have an opportunity where if Netflix
21:00
just gave them a Brinks truck of money and backed
21:03
it up into Shane Gillis' driveway, they could
21:06
probably squeeze out 20 seasons of Tires. But
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do you want that as your legacy? Then you look
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at comic strips. So there was a comic strip,
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my favorite, I got it tattooed on my leg, is
21:19
Calvin and Hobbes. To this day, it's still people's
21:23
favorite comic strip in the newspaper. It lasted
21:27
10 years. It was on from 85 to 95, and they asked
21:30
Bill Watterson, why'd you end it? And he said,
21:33
I said all there is to say. What else do you
21:35
want me to do? Do you want Calvin to go to college?
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Do you want Calvin to comment on the iPhone and
21:40
social media? No. You leave it in the era that
21:46
it was, because it still can be contemporary.
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Whereas you have other comic strips like Blondie
21:53
and Beetle Bailey that have been on for a hundred
21:57
years in the newspapers, and they always try
22:00
to resurrect some things and make contemporary
22:03
references, but there's no legacy with them.
22:07
Or The Farsight is another example. Didn't last
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that long. I think it was in the newspapers 15
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years. You can go down the street to your Barnes
22:16
& Noble and get a far side calendar to this day.
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It hasn't been in the comic strips in 32 years.
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And that's what it is. People are swayed by the
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money. They're swayed by the influence. They're
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swayed by the fame that they will compromise
22:33
their principles. And I think that's kind of
22:36
what happened with Howard Stern, getting back
22:38
to it, is that Stern, for how many years, ripped
22:41
on podcasts and podcasters. It was beneath him
22:46
that if you really wanted to do anything in the
22:48
business, you would have a radio show. But then
22:50
the world changed. The world changed around him.
22:54
And he can't admit, okay, maybe this podcast
22:57
thing seems to be working out. He has to kind
23:00
of go, no, actually, I've always been ahead of
23:02
the curve. But it's like the world passed Madonna
23:05
and Howard Stern and all these people by. And
23:09
they're having troubles trying to adapt to a
23:12
new medium and a new, I guess, a new up of people
23:20
who have different tastes in music and entertainment.
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I mean, everything I wanted to say, you are literally
23:31
taking out of my mouth. That sounds weird, but
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you know what I'm saying. That's hot. Yeah, no,
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it is an interesting thing because We are at
23:43
a time where you go on X or you go on Facebook,
23:49
and there's a lot of AI slop out there. Your
23:53
favorite bar or restaurant has an AI flyer. And
23:57
everybody has that distinct look to it. Then
24:00
you see an AI video, and as of this recording
24:04
at the end of September 2026, You go, okay, yeah,
24:08
it's AI. It's getting better. It's certainly
24:11
better than it was just a few years ago, and
24:14
it will continue getting better every time. The
24:17
AI that was made yesterday will be better today.
24:19
It's always going to be fixed. And not getting
24:23
into a whole AI discussion of overlords or whatever
24:26
the case is, we're going to get to a point where
24:29
people will consume AI content. There's a pushback
24:34
against it right now. But you probably will see
24:38
that, you will hear that person on the radio
24:42
that's doing the traffic who's not an actual
24:44
person. Not only are they not from your town,
24:47
they're not an actual person. They're not from
24:49
this planet. And then you're going to probably
24:51
have a time where AI music will top the charts.
24:55
That'll probably happen. If it's not going to
24:56
be Mariah Carey or Taylor Swift, it might be
24:59
an AI song that tops the charts on Billboard.
25:02
And is that what the people want? Do the people
25:06
want that? I think it's inevitable. And I think
25:10
the way that we are looking at entertainment
25:13
as we are on the backside of this decade and
25:17
heading into a new one, people are going to have
25:20
to try. You're going to have to be prepared for
25:23
what the next thing is. So if you're a radio
25:26
guy right now, whether you're Ryan Hoppe or other
25:28
people, you have to understand that. it's a matter
25:34
of time. You're on borrowed time. Now, I think
25:37
a lot of other people are on borrowed time. But,
25:39
Tony, I'm not just a radio guy. I'm more of a
25:42
podcaster. I mean, I work in radio, but I saw
25:45
the writing on the wall in 2022, so that's why
25:48
I left the boat. So, guys that are like middle
25:51
-aged Gen Xers are the ones that are freaking
25:53
out that podcasters show, but they have their
25:57
producer do it, so they don't even know how to
25:59
do it. Oh, yeah. And it's... I think for younger
26:04
people, they are aware of it because they weren't
26:08
raised in the America that a lot of people were,
26:10
all the promises of the American dream. If you're
26:14
a 20 -something, you've basically, it's been
26:16
baked into the cake that, oh, okay, well, I guess,
26:20
how am I going to get screwed today by this boss
26:23
or by society or by the president or whatever
26:26
the case is? And it's, so you have a very...
26:31
cynical, nihilistic Gen Z that's out there. And
26:35
because of that, it could create some interesting
26:37
content. Because Gen X was very cynical and nihilistic,
26:42
and it put out a lot of really good music and
26:46
really good art in the 80s and the 90s. So I'm
26:49
fascinated by that. But I think a lot of people,
26:54
once the boomers... start passing away, which
26:57
is happening, it's happening today, it's happening
27:00
tomorrow, and it will continue going on, that
27:03
we're going to see a very, very different multimedia
27:08
landscape in just a couple of years. We already
27:11
saw it a couple of years ago with the presidential
27:13
election where Trump, like him or not, I'm not
27:18
really a fan, obviously, right now. Somebody
27:22
got in his ear, I think it was his son, Barron,
27:25
who said, Go on podcasts. Joe Rogan is the biggest
27:28
thing. There's no reason to go on CNN anymore.
27:31
And you're going on Squawk Box, calling into
27:36
Squawk Box. No one watches that. And yet, Joe
27:39
Rogan has millions that are watching, or Theo
27:42
Vaughn, or some of these others. And yet, of
27:45
course, since then, he doesn't do any of those.
27:48
He just goes back and does Fox News and Mark
27:50
Levin's show that no one watches. But the whole
27:54
idea is, Yeah, you do need to embrace this. And
27:57
the reason why there seemed to be a generational
28:00
shift in tone in messaging was because younger
28:04
people are not getting their news from CNN anymore.
28:08
And I think it was Dave Smith who made this point.
28:14
Let's say, for example, Joe Rogan said, I've
28:17
said all there is to say I'm done. I'm hanging
28:19
my podcast up like Marc Maron. I'm done with
28:22
my podcast. that's it. Or if Spotify said, yeah,
28:26
you've had too much misinformation or whatever,
28:29
we're canceling. Do you think the listeners of
28:32
the Joe Rogan experience are going to go back
28:34
to watching CNN and Fox News? Well, no, of course
28:37
not. They're going to find someone who's even
28:39
more radical than Joe Rogan is. Joe Rogan is
28:42
the moderate option at this time. So the listening
28:46
habits, and it will have political impacts, it
28:49
will have social and cultural impacts going forward.
28:53
And I think people who are like the boomers,
28:57
I think there are just, they're too far gone
28:59
right now. But if you're Gen X and millennial,
29:02
you're going to have to be prepared for these
29:04
changes right now. And you can't get caught with
29:07
your pants down, especially if you're somebody
29:09
who is, let's say you are a radio guy who doesn't
29:12
know Adobe audition, who doesn't know how to
29:15
work zoom or, uh, doesn't know how to upload
29:18
video or using the different tools as far as
29:23
posting stuff. It might be time to look into
29:25
working a trade, becoming a plumber at this point.
29:29
Tony Mazur, you got anything else? Oh, gosh.
29:36
No, I mean, just check out my podcast for the
29:41
Hoppy Hour, since this will also be on my show.
29:43
You're already listening to my podcast, but no,
29:46
I, my show is, it goes out Wednesdays for free,
29:51
but I do have a Patreon where I, sound off on
29:54
things that bother me. I do a few episodes per
29:57
week. So yeah, it's patreon .com slash Tony Mazur,
30:02
T -O -N -Y -M -A -Z -U -R. I do have a free tier.
30:06
Sometimes I do put out some free content or I
30:09
find old photos of myself and comment on them
30:11
or old posts. And I give some goodies for the
30:15
freebies and everything. Yeah, no, I'm still
30:19
doing my show. I feel like I'm on a slow retirement
30:22
tour because for as much as I've been ripping
30:25
on so many other people in this show, I do feel
30:29
like I am also having trouble trying to adapt
30:32
to the new technology. Yeah, I feel that. Tony,
30:37
I like your content. I just wish you did more
30:39
video. First of all, I didn't get into this business
30:42
to be a videographer. If I did, I'd be working.
30:45
I would have worked at a television station.
30:47
Instead, I worked in radio so I could wear flip
30:49
-flops and an Alice in Chains t -shirt to work
30:52
every day. But that's my whole thing is I'm also
30:58
having trouble trying to adapt. So what do I
31:01
do going forward? Those three options. Either
31:03
I continue adapting and I do more Instagram reels
31:07
and I do TikTok videos. I put more of my content
31:10
and I do all this and video spots and everything.
31:14
Or I keep doing what I'm doing where I put out
31:17
podcasts because I still believe there is some
31:20
viability. Or the third option is I go away.
31:23
I'm not ready to go away. I still have things
31:25
I need to say. So I guess I'm in option two right
31:28
now. I'm just going to keep on keeping on with
31:31
my podcast, put some videos out there, and I
31:34
guess hope for the best going forward. And then
31:37
see too much content. One more time. Plug away.
31:41
How can people find you? Yeah, you can find me
31:45
on I'm on X at Tony Mazur. I piss people off
31:48
with my content. I'm all over. Just just look
31:51
me up everything. But the main plug is just the
31:54
podcast every Wednesday on your favorite pod
31:57
catcher, as well as the the Patreon at Patreon
32:01
dot com slash Tony Mazur. I want to have you
32:04
on like once a month as like the official media
32:07
critic. Yeah, I can be the media ombudsman. I
32:13
can be like Brian Stelter at CNN. Yeah, it's
32:16
perfect. Because you articulate very well a lot
32:20
of what I think. A lot. I appreciate that. We're
32:27
the old heads. Because I guess you could say
32:29
that since you've been in the business now over
32:30
10 years, you're like one of the old timers.
32:33
I have definitely, I call it a seasoned veteran.
32:36
And this lady told me. You're what the kids call
32:39
an unk. Yeah, this lady told me not to refer
32:43
myself as 10 years in the business, but over
32:46
a decade. Yes, that's true. It sounds better,
32:51
I guess. Yeah, because if you say anything about
32:54
10 years, people think you have Epstein connections.
32:57
Yeah, I am definitely not that. I am a lot of
33:00
things, but I am not that. Tony Mazur, everything
33:05
I needed to have said, you knocked it out of
33:08
the park like the Guardians did. How are they
33:11
going to do? In 45 seconds, recap what's going
33:14
to happen with the Indians -Guardians. Here's
33:19
what's going to happen. The Rays are going to
33:20
play the Dodgers in the World Series and possibly
33:23
the final World Series for the foreseeable future.
33:26
Oh, because of the strike? Yeah, there's going
33:29
to be a lockout. That sucks. They are not close
33:34
to coming to terms when it comes to salary caps.
33:37
Why would they? Well, and now that you're not
33:41
going to have to go to St. Petersburg anymore,
33:43
eventually they're going to build that ballpark
33:45
right on Dale Mabry Drive. So you'll be able
33:49
to catch a Rays, a Tarpons, a Buccaneers game,
33:53
all in that same area, which I think is actually
33:56
preferred. Hopefully they can build up that district
33:59
instead of cheap hotels like an Econolodge that
34:02
I stayed at or car dealerships. Tony Mazur, how
34:08
is your cat doing? Good. She hurt her back. I
34:14
got the call right before you called me to do
34:17
the podcast. She's just basically fat and out
34:22
of shape and she must have jumped down and hurt
34:25
her back like the rest of us. Yeah, she's well
34:27
fed. She's definitely well fed. She's just a
34:32
typical woman who retains her weight. On that
34:37
note, we will end the segment. Thank you, Tony.
34:40
Thank you, sir. And we'll be right back. It looks
35:29
like you went and got a b****. nut on the ipad
35:35
screen whatever the case might be in your hand
35:37
in a sock in a whatever like thank you but also
35:40
i would love to be getting railed but use bucket
35:44
loads of lube if you think you have enough lube
35:46
double it as a reminder oh yeah let me press
35:49
this button right here