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AEW Hot Topics | A Historic First · Ignition - an AEW Podcast

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  Speaker 1: T nine, Cognition six five four three two one zero,
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  Speaker 1: all engine running.
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  Speaker 2: It's Tuesday. You know what that means. We are live
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  Speaker 2: on x and also live on Twitch with the a
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  Speaker 2: w FANA podcast team every Tuesday night at eight forty
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  Speaker 2: five Eastern Time with Ignition. This is Kelson and Wednesday
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  Speaker 2: brings us a w Blood and Guts from the first
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  Speaker 2: Horizon Coliseum in Greensboro, North Carolina, Carolina. Hey, at least
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  Speaker 2: I didn't say American. This week, Ricky the Dragon steamboat
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  Speaker 2: will be there to nature boy, rick where will be there?
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  Speaker 2: The show will be highlighted by two blood and Guts matches.
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  Speaker 2: So I have a question for the podcast team, how
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  Speaker 2: would you structure aw Dynamite, especially with the with the
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  Speaker 2: blood and guts matches? And which of the blood and
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  Speaker 2: guts matches do you think should main event the show?
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  Speaker 3: I think the women should main event. You know it
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  Speaker 3: was announced a while ago. I think it's head.
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  Speaker 4: It's hard to say it's had a better deal build,
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  Speaker 4: but it's head. The focus has been on every woman
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  Speaker 4: in that match, like those twelve women are the core
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  Speaker 4: of the division. It's the first time you're having a
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  Speaker 4: women's blooding guts match. I don't see how you don't
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  Speaker 4: main event with that one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, good, Okay, I back that.
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  Speaker 5: I think the women should be the main event.
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  Speaker 6: But the problem is there's in between matches. You getta
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  Speaker 6: raise that cage back up and down again and stuff.
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  Speaker 6: I believe there's a Will hop isn't there a Will
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  Speaker 6: Hobbs versus.
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  Speaker 5: Adam Page match? Yes, so that's in between that.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know if you started off first with the
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  Speaker 6: men's and get that storyline line out of the way,
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  Speaker 6: because I get the feeling that people don't care.
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  Speaker 5: About that as much. I don't particularly, but some people
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  Speaker 5: may and just have.
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  Speaker 6: But the ladies has to be last, I think because
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  Speaker 6: it's a big moment and there's more storyline and I'm
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  Speaker 6: more interested in see that one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, don't forget now that tomorrow night show is two
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  Speaker 2: and a half hours long, so the main event is
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  Speaker 2: going to go past a lot of people's bedtimes. Matt,
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  Speaker 2: what do you have to say about this?
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  Speaker 1: I would like to see the women start things off.
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  Speaker 1: Actually really really excited for the women's blood and cuts matches,
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  Speaker 1: so I'd like to see them open the show. Maybe, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: have hang down in Hobbs later because I have a
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  Speaker 1: feeling that with that Samoa Joe is gonna intervene, so
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  Speaker 1: they could kind of leave that hanging at the end.
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  Speaker 1: You know what's gonna happen there, what's happening next? And yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's my take on it, all right, what about you, Marcus?
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  Speaker 7: Yes, I would actually like to see the women open
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  Speaker 7: the show. Kind of get the hottest crowd behind them.
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  Speaker 7: Another grad is probably gonna be hot all night, get
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  Speaker 7: that moment, get them going out there first. I mean
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  Speaker 7: them main eventing would be good, but I would actually
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  Speaker 7: like to see them open the show with the women.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of tore it on this part of
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  Speaker 2: me really want Hangman and Hobbs to open the show.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure there's gonna be more matches announced, because as
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  Speaker 2: of right now, there's only the three matches, and two
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  Speaker 2: of them are the Blood and Guts. And I don't
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  Speaker 2: know how long the Blood and Guts are going to go,
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  Speaker 2: but just considering that the women's match has more combatants
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  Speaker 2: in it, two more, it's gonna take that much longer.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, the match could end at any time, but look,
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  Speaker 2: it's stupid to think that the match is gonna have
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  Speaker 2: before everybody comes out because they've been waiting so long
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  Speaker 2: for everyone enters the right. Oh, that's right, that's right.
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  Speaker 2: I'm thinking I'm thinking something else. I'm think at the
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  Speaker 2: casino match. But what you know anyway, Yeah, the match
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  Speaker 2: can only end by submission or just giving up. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: submissioners surround two s's. But look, let's go ahead and
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  Speaker 2: talk about the men's blooding guts. Is there anything that
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  Speaker 2: you see or expect or want to see happen during
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  Speaker 2: the men's blooding guts match.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just expecting a whole lot of crazy vilast I mean,
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  Speaker 4: you've got Darby Allenson saying Moxley Brisco. I mean, you
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  Speaker 4: have some crazy bastards in this match who are gonna
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  Speaker 4: and I feel like a lot of people, I don't
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  Speaker 4: know about a lot that people have been like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: we really need a men's so they may be kind
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  Speaker 4: of wanted to be like, shut the hell up, idiots,
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  Speaker 4: We're gonna give you something where you're not gonna question
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  Speaker 4: us ever again. So I'm just expecting craziness. And I
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  Speaker 4: mean Darby tries to light someone on fire.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Well, do you think that, Uh, one of the
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  Speaker 2: questions that I've had, You know that I've been asking
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  Speaker 2: myself looking at this, Chris is uh m, how do
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  Speaker 2: you think the teams are stacked up? I mean, does
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  Speaker 2: everybody fit in this type of match?
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  Speaker 4: I would say Orange Cacity doesn't really fit. But we've
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  Speaker 4: seen him have you know, crazy matches before where he
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  Speaker 4: does really well. I think I almost think the fact
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  Speaker 4: that he doesn't fit makes him a good fit, Like
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  Speaker 4: you know what I mean, It's kind of like one
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  Speaker 4: of those right, it shouldn't work, but it will. That's
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  Speaker 4: what kind of my tack everyone else, you know, I
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  Speaker 4: think they said, I know I've heard on here it
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  Speaker 4: was mid Card All Stars, but if you look at
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  Speaker 4: the death Riders outside of Moxley, who is the main inventner?
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  Speaker 3: You know?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Now, I know that some people have said that
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  Speaker 2: they hope that this is the end of the death Writers. Mkay.
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  Speaker 2: I know that you've not been a fan of the
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  Speaker 2: Death Writers. Do you think that this is the end
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  Speaker 2: of the Death Writers? In One Fell Swoop at Blood
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  Speaker 2: and Guts?
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  Speaker 3: I hope.
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  Speaker 6: So I really do don't see anywhere else to go.
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  Speaker 6: I'm thinking Box is going to surrender somehow, uh and
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  Speaker 6: cost them, and then they're going to turn on him
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  Speaker 6: or something of that effect.
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  Speaker 5: I really do hope so.
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  Speaker 6: Like I said a bunch of times in this podcast,
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  Speaker 6: I just feel this has gone on too long. This
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  Speaker 6: is the perfect way to end it on their type
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  Speaker 6: of match, and if they can't win their type of match,
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  Speaker 6: then they don't need to be a stable anymore.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Who who is it that has the advantage in
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  Speaker 2: this match? Is it? Is it the uh? Is it
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  Speaker 2: the death Writers?
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  Speaker 1: The death Writers only seem to really have an advantage
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  Speaker 1: when they're together.
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  Speaker 2: No, I'm talking about I'm talking about the actual advantage, Like.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, Darby, it's the good guys, Oh, the good guys.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I think so. I think Darby has a lot,
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  Speaker 1: a lot going for him. I used to not be
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  Speaker 1: that much of a fan of Darby, but he has
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  Speaker 1: really grown on me. So I can see the good
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  Speaker 1: guys pulling off a win with this, and I do
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  Speaker 1: think it's going to be the end of the Death Riders.
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  Speaker 1: Something I noticed is we're hearing a lot more from
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  Speaker 1: from from Pac and I a Puck and I think
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  Speaker 1: that he's going to somehow have something to do with
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  Speaker 1: the big ending, the big finale, so to speak.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I am Yeah, he has been a lot more,
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  Speaker 2: although I wor I could think of it. He's taking
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  Speaker 2: more of like a leadership role of the Death Riders.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I think he's empowered by pants. That was
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  Speaker 1: the trick to him all along, it is putting him
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  Speaker 1: in a pair of.
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  Speaker 2: Pants and cutting his hair.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so he's really been out there, are you.
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  Speaker 2: Are you satisfied? Are you satisfied about with how well,
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  Speaker 2: for lack of better words, moist he's been in the
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  Speaker 2: last few weeks.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's been an adequate amount of there's an
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  Speaker 1: adequate amount of moisture.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the dude is definitely the wettest guy in a w.
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  Speaker 1: I think he just he comes right out of the
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  Speaker 1: shower and just runs to the.
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  Speaker 2: Ring exactly right out of the swimming bowl, Okay, right
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  Speaker 2: out of the dakuzzi of the ring. Yeah. Well, Marcus,
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  Speaker 2: let me ask you a question here, when uh, when
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  Speaker 2: this blood and guts match starts. Let's look at strategy here,
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  Speaker 2: who do you think is the first in the ring
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  Speaker 2: for both the uh, well, the good guys and the
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  Speaker 2: bad guys, the Conglomeration and the.
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  Speaker 7: Death Claudio And I was gonna say Orange Cassidy, but
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  Speaker 7: I think it's gonna be Claudio and Kyle Ray.
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  Speaker 2: That makes sense what you said, Claudio. I was thinking,
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  Speaker 2: well that it makes sense for it to be Orange
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  Speaker 2: Cassidy because those two have a little bit of a
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  Speaker 2: thing going on. Yeah, I was thinking about it because
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  Speaker 2: you definitely yeah, I mean, when you think about it, Marcus,
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  Speaker 2: you I mean, you definitely have to put somebody that
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  Speaker 2: has stamina in there, and you know, and well Claudio
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  Speaker 2: can do it. I actually, pretty much everybody at the
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  Speaker 2: Death Writers has the stamina to do these long matches.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if Kyle O'Reilly has has the stamina
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  Speaker 2: to go from the very beginning of the match all
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  Speaker 2: to the end. You know.
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  Speaker 1: You know, while we're talking about Kyle O'Reilly, I really
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  Speaker 1: don't like the way that he's been booked. He is
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  Speaker 1: actually a really, really good wrestler and he is in
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  Speaker 1: all of these matches where he's just getting beaten, and
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  Speaker 1: I don't like the congomeration and whatever they're doing there.
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  Speaker 1: They seem like a big joke. On the opposite, I
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  Speaker 1: don't like it. I wish Kyle O'Reilly won more. He's
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  Speaker 1: he's actually a good strong wrestler, and it's almost clownish
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  Speaker 1: the way he is to me, and I just I
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  Speaker 1: don't like it.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know, I kind of feel differently. I like
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  Speaker 6: the side of Kyle, the goofball. He can wrestle and stuff,
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  Speaker 6: but he's he's almost pushed Max to his limits, and
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  Speaker 6: I think he may have a say in the ending
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  Speaker 6: and maybe he's the one who makes Mark tap out
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  Speaker 6: or or something, or he gets revenge on Max.
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  Speaker 1: I hope. So, I hope you're right. It would be
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  Speaker 1: nice to see or at least have him actually beat
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  Speaker 1: Wheeler You to the death.
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  Speaker 2: So I think everybody kind of wants to see Wheeler
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  Speaker 2: You to get beat to death. Yeah, well I want to.
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  Speaker 2: I want to go back to Marcus here because you
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  Speaker 2: were the last to go in the first question. So
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you the question that I think everybody
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  Speaker 2: wants to know. Uh well, two two part question. Who's
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  Speaker 2: gonna bleed first? And how do you see this match
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  Speaker 2: playing out? I mean, what is the end result? Not
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  Speaker 2: necessarily the winner, but what is the end result of
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  Speaker 2: what goes on in this match? What would you like
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  Speaker 2: to say?
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  Speaker 7: First question of who I think is gonna bleed first?
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  Speaker 7: I think it's gonna be Orange Cassidy he's someone that
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  Speaker 7: looks good bleeding like, he can bleed like a lot.
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  Speaker 7: It'll show throughout the mask. That's why if he starts
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  Speaker 7: it like, he's someone that can take a good beating.
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  Speaker 7: But as far as how I think it's gonna play out,
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  Speaker 7: I think the majority of people can see this match
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  Speaker 7: kind of being a story with box and boxing. How
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  Speaker 7: is he going to behave in this match? Is he
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  Speaker 7: gonna be the one that quits? Is he gonna be
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  Speaker 7: the one that surrenders for someone else?
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  Speaker 1: Like?
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  Speaker 7: How is it gonna work out him? And that's I
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  Speaker 7: think how it's gonna come out. I think it's gonna
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  Speaker 7: be down to box on whether he taps or so
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  Speaker 7: or he's surrendered, and that's how the endings.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, let's go to let's go to time, Chris,
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  Speaker 2: What do you think.
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  Speaker 4: As far as a tough question, I betta go with
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  Speaker 4: whoever enters the ring Smith is gonna be the first police?
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  Speaker 2: You think it's gonna take that long for somebody to bleed?
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  Speaker 3: I think so.
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  Speaker 4: I think because it's five minutes, you know, to winner,
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  Speaker 4: and then five for five minutes and then it's thinking
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  Speaker 4: what like every Yeah, I think so that's really not
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  Speaker 4: that long when you think about it. The fifth person that's,
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  Speaker 4: you know, nine ten minutes into the match.
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  Speaker 3: True.
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  Speaker 4: As for the finish, I wanted this for the E
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  Speaker 4: Quick match, so I've wanted to get here since it
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  Speaker 4: didn't happen. Darby Allen threatens to set Wheeler Yudah on
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  Speaker 4: fire and Monstley is like, whatever, I don't give a
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  Speaker 4: shit about that little ship. To set Daniel Garcia on fire.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, no, no, I actually care about him. I
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  Speaker 4: actually liked him. I I don't know why I want
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  Speaker 4: that finish, I just do. I know it probably won't happened,
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  Speaker 4: but I think it would be interesting and funny, and
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  Speaker 4: Bieler would be like what the hell man?
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, I want that to be the fas.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go to m K. I had an additional
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  Speaker 2: question for you, m K. Of course, who's gonna bleed? First?
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  Speaker 2: How do you see this match playing out? And is
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  Speaker 2: there anybody that is missing from this match that you
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  Speaker 2: would have liked to have seen in this match? And
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  Speaker 2: I'm not talking about sworst Rick later, will Osbrey somebody
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  Speaker 2: that can be in the match that isn't in this match.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know who else might putting this much. I
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  Speaker 6: think everyone's pretty pretty good in this match. I think
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  Speaker 6: it's gonna be Darby Allen is gonna bleed first because
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  Speaker 6: he's gonna get thrown.
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  Speaker 5: He's will get.
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  Speaker 6: Lawn darted into the into the cage, or he will
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  Speaker 6: get lown darted off of it into the crash pad.
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  Speaker 6: I just I once again, I'll say that the death
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  Speaker 6: Writers are going to lose. How I don't know it
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  Speaker 6: can be anything, but I think it's their time to lose,
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  Speaker 6: and it's their time to go away for a while.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to be a finite end
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  Speaker 2: to the Death Writers, but I do see something major happening.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe to get to that net same questions, who's going
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  Speaker 2: to bleed first? How do you see this match playing out?
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  Speaker 2: And is there anybody who is not in this match
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  Speaker 2: that you would have liked to have seen in this match?
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  Speaker 1: I actually think that Moxley's going to bleed first. He's
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  Speaker 1: big on bleeding, and I think that Darby's going to
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  Speaker 1: get the upper hand early on him and he's going
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  Speaker 1: to bleed first. And someone I think that should be
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  Speaker 1: in it that isn't, Well, there's someone that I would
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  Speaker 1: like to see in a blood and guts match, and
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  Speaker 1: that's Will Hobbs. I know he has a match with Hangman,
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  Speaker 1: but I would like to see him in blood and
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  Speaker 1: guts matches more so than just about anybody. He seems
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  Speaker 1: like he's made for it. And what was the other question?
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  Speaker 1: I missed it?
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  Speaker 2: Well, how do you think it's going to play out?
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  Speaker 1: Oh goodness, I don't know. There's so many scenarios with that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, and I don't I don't think it's
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  Speaker 1: the end of the Death Riders either. I think there
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  Speaker 1: may be some fractures within them where we're left wondering
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  Speaker 1: what's going to happen, and maybe they'll pick that up
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  Speaker 1: in the future, but I don't think that there. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think this is the end of the Death Riders,
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  Speaker 1: and I do think that the good guys will end
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  Speaker 1: up coming out on top. But there's gonna be some
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  Speaker 1: kind of of something that leaves us wondering what's going
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  Speaker 1: on with the Death Riders. That's what I think.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, as far as who's gonna bleed first, I think
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  Speaker 2: it's gonna be Mark Briscoe. He just seems like he
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  Speaker 2: would be somebody would bleed North Carolina. I don't know why.
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  Speaker 2: That's just the way he looks. As far as way
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  Speaker 2: it's going to play out, I agree with you, Ned,
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  Speaker 2: I think that this is going to not be the
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  Speaker 2: finite ed to the Death Riders, But I think something's
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  Speaker 2: gonna happen. And I like the word that you use, fractured.
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  Speaker 2: I think something's gonna happen that will that will definitely
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  Speaker 2: fracture and expose a weakness within the group. And that's
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  Speaker 2: what I think now. As far who I would like
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  Speaker 2: to have seen in this match and who isn't. Look
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  Speaker 2: if hangman Adam Page is the embodiment of cowboys shit,
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  Speaker 2: who is more of the embodiment of blood and guts,
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  Speaker 2: then somebody would no guts. The man with the missing
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  Speaker 2: seventy two feet worth of small intestines, Kenny Omega, I'd
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  Speaker 2: like to see him get ready and be able to
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  Speaker 2: go next year. I think that's one of the things
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  Speaker 2: that I would like to see. Let's get Kenny Omega,
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  Speaker 2: is you know, minuscule small intestines out there and do this.
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  Speaker 1: Don Callus would lose his mind if it happened.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we're gonna talk a little bit about Don
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  Speaker 2: Kallis and our pro pori because I think our propri
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  Speaker 2: resection is gonna probably be a very interesting discussion. But
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  Speaker 2: let's move on to the women's blood and guts now. Look,
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest with you, and I think I
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  Speaker 2: mentioned this before the show to somebody. I've made a
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  Speaker 2: post on the aw panhub subreddit about the men's blood
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  Speaker 2: and guts and about the women's bloody and the general
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  Speaker 2: consensus was not a whole lot of people really cared
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  Speaker 2: about the men's blood and guts match. It's just a match.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of people are invested in the women's blood
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  Speaker 2: and gut. Look, it's the first women's blood and guts
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  Speaker 2: match in aw's history. We know that they can do
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  Speaker 2: it because they've had aw's had so many women's hardcore matches,
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  Speaker 2: street fights and whatnot. But this is this is a
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  Speaker 2: new era. Two rings, one gauge, blood and guts. How
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  Speaker 2: do you guys see this panning out? Chris, let's go
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  Speaker 2: to you. What are you looking for in this match?
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: Ah, blood and violence and craziness.
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: We've seen you know, Julia Hart Skyblue Willow. We know
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: they're good in these kinds of matches, you know, we
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: don't really know what making bag or I meet Tony
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: Storm at the Hollywood Ending, we know what she brings,
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: but chatlander her and Willow in the street fight. But
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: there's a lot of it. Like about half of them
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: we've seen what they can do in this hardcore environment,
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: and the other half this will be the first time
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: see you know, this crazy environment. So I'm looking for
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: just violence, craziness. I think they will come up with
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: some really interesting spots. Someone's getting their huha stafled.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: There's no other way to say. You know it's gonna
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: be Yeah, I.
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: Think this is going to be really interesting and fun, bloody,
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: and I have no idea who comes out as the winner.
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: You know, who submits, who surrenders. This is one of
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: those it's the first time, so I just I'm just
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: looking for a fun, violent match.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: Honestly, there you go. Violence is the key, Marcus. I'm
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: going to go to you next. What are you looking
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: for in this match? Is there anything in specific that
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: you particularly want to see.
• 22:30
  Speaker 7: I'm interested to see how they lay this match out
• 22:33
  Speaker 7: with women as opposed to how they've laid out the
• 22:37
  Speaker 7: men's matches in the past, just because of you know,
• 22:41
  Speaker 7: some of the the differences between how the men and women,
• 22:45
  Speaker 7: But I do expect a bloody, violent match. It's to
• 22:49
  Speaker 7: see who actually bleeds in this match, and that's gonna
• 22:52
  Speaker 7: be interesting to see. Uh. And one thing that I'm
• 22:57
  Speaker 7: also interested to see is get actually exit the caves.
• 23:02
  Speaker 7: I've never seen the women actually go on top of
• 23:05
  Speaker 7: the cage, so that's something that I was I'm interested
• 23:08
  Speaker 7: to see if they actually do.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was thinking about that earlier myself, Marcus, and
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: I was like, God, I hope not. The women's submission
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: is too good right now for risking injury on something
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: stupid like that.
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: In my opinion, I agree.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: No.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: So okay, let's go to you and what are your
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: thoughts here. Let me ask you specifically, who do you
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: think begins both begins this match for both teams.
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: I don't. I think stat Lander should start.
• 23:47
  Speaker 6: I think you should start small with some of the
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: other people like stat Lander, and I'm not sure who's
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: all else.
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: On it.
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: But I really do want to see Megan may come
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: and last and just destroy. I think she came up
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: a long way, and uh, I think she deserves to
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: dominate and I think, yeah, that she deserves the title.
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: Eventually and uh, and this is gonna be a heck
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: of a match.
• 24:17
  Speaker 8: Uh.
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: They're gonna perform myself like they always do. They're always overperform.
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: And I think it's gonna be the match of the
• 24:25
  Speaker 6: year for these type of matches.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, one thing that I will say is
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: because I was thinking about it with Julia Hart. Julia
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Hart has bled in matches before, but it's always been
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: her own blood caused by It's not by it like natural,
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: like she bumped her head or she bit her lip
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: or something like that. So I'd be interesting to see
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: what kind of blood comes from Julia Hart, from her
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: just conkering herself on the head, you know, because that's
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: the way it works with her. I'm also interested to
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: see if the if the mist comes into play in
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: this match. Matt, what do you think about the women's
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: blood and guts?
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, sorry, sorry, no, no, I'm here. I was
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: having trouble with with my little icon. With the women's
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: blood and guts, I think it has the potential to
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: be very very good if they play this right. I'm
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: interested to see what kinds of things they come up
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: with to beat the heck out of each other. I
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: think that Julie Hart actually should probably be one of
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: the first people out. I would like to see her
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: and Mercedes Monette actually get into it. Mercedes tend to
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: void same ting, but I still think something will happen there.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: I think that's the surprise because Mercedes has a lot
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: of a lot of aggression towards a lot of the
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: other women, whether they are together or not. She doesn't
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: seem to like anybody, and I think that she's gonna
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: do something like maybe she'll push Julia or push sky
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: Blue out of the way and they actually will end
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: up getting into it with her. Something tells me that
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Mercedes just does not play fair and she's just gonna
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: kind of be out there for herself and it's going
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: to anger everyone else. I'd like to see who I'm
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: a huge fan of. Is Megan Bain really just absolutely
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: destroy everyone like somebody else said, I would really like
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: to see her there and really showing what she can do.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: So all the way around, I'm kind of thinking that
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Megan Baine's gonna be a little protected in this match,
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: and the reason why is because she is committed to
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: the Tag League tournament. In Stardom. She went to stardom
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: over the weekend. Now she's back, and now she's going
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: back to stardom. So she's bouncing back and forth between
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: A and W and a W and stardom this month.
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: So I think she'll be last.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean so I think you'd be protected. Uh,
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: somebody needs to mute. But anyway, Uh, I lost my
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: train of thought. You know, that brought up a point
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: where Mercedes Monet and Julia Hart, and it does kind
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: of make a little sense because again I bring this up,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: brought this up before in one of the previous podcasts.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: When Mercedes Monete debuted in Boston, the first person to
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: confront her was Julia Hart, I mean confront her physically,
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: so so they have a little bit And again I
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: really do believe remember Julia Hart lost the TBS championship
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: the Willow Nightingale, who only kept the championship for thirty
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: five days, but for losing it to Mercedes Monet. I
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: really don't believe that at that point Willow nine Gale
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: was ever supposed to be TBS champion. It was just
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: an injury to Julia Hart that caused that whole change
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: of title to come about. Yeah, you know, women's match,
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: and I can say the same thing for the men's match.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: It's really not about who wins and who loses, it's
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: what happens in the match. Uh, there's no winner and
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: losers in this. The winners, of course, are gonna be
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: the fans if they do it right. But yeah, I mean, look,
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: blood and guts is blood and guts, and you never
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: know what's gonna happen. Who wasn't that said about going
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: outside the cage? The women going outside the cage? Was
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: that much Disney or Chris? Okay? Yeah, I mean I
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: mean if that happens, if they get up on top
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: of the cage, what the heck? Man? I mean, Look,
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: sky Blue is built for these kind of matches. Let's
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: just face it. She is the hardcore queen of aw
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: If something like that is going to happen with somebody
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: going outside the ring and up on top of the cage,
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be sky Blue that comes down the wrong way,
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: let's put it that way. So I'm looking forward to
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: to this match, I really am. I hope. I'm really
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: rooting for all the women to do really well and
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: make this match special because if it flops, boy, we'll
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: never see it again. So, speaking of the women, Pro Wrestling,
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: Illustrated came out with their twenty twenty five Top two
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: fifty to PWI two fifty. Now keep in mind that
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: the evaluation period was from October one to twenty twenty
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: four through September thirtieth of twenty twenty five, so it's
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: not only what happens in twenty twenty five. It does
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: have like the last quarter twenty twenty four in this
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: but ranked number one was Mercedes Monet, ranked number two
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: was Tony Storm, Number three was Saya Kamatani from Stardom,
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: number four was Tiffany Stratton from WWE, and number five
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: was Stephanie ba Kerr from WWE. There was a lot,
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: a lot of the only word I could use for
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: it is discourse about this man his rankings, And I
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: wanted to see what you guys thought of it. I mean,
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: do you you feel like rsides Monet deserved number one?
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Do you are you happy with Stephanie Vicord and Tiboty
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: Stratton at four and five? What about Saya Saya Kamatani
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: at three and Tony Storm at two? Uh? Really? What
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: are your thoughts here? Guys?
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: I thought Tony should have been number one, and I
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: think that Athinos should have placed in there somewhere. I mean,
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: she's been the r o H champion forever, and but yeah,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: I thought Tony should have come in at number one.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: I think that they might have picked Monette because she's
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: running around with all those belts. Honestly, I don't know,
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: but I thought Tony Storm really really deserved number one.
• 31:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree, you know, I just think Tony Storm,
• 32:03
  Speaker 6: because of her character work, has been better than Monette.
• 32:06
  Speaker 6: But but Monette has been around the world doing things
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: and putting wrestling on her back, so I can see
• 32:12
  Speaker 6: why they did it. But I don't disagree too much
• 32:16
  Speaker 6: with the WRESTL I don't know much of WWE or
• 32:19
  Speaker 6: anybody else, but I think it's a good fit for
• 32:22
  Speaker 6: what they had.
• 32:24
  Speaker 7: I actually agree with Mercedes being number one. I think
• 32:29
  Speaker 7: her match output this year has just been kind of unprecedented.
• 32:35
  Speaker 7: Why but it's just rare, and the matches that she's
• 32:40
  Speaker 7: had outside of AW some of those matches have been
• 32:43
  Speaker 7: really really good. She's even had storylines through and CMLLL
• 32:50
  Speaker 7: things like that, so she's doing a lot. I can
• 32:54
  Speaker 7: see the argument for Tony Storm she's been like the
• 32:57
  Speaker 7: number one woman for probably the last two years if
• 33:01
  Speaker 7: we're being honest. But and then with the Saya Come Attorney,
• 33:08
  Speaker 7: she's like that next person in stardom that's coming up,
• 33:11
  Speaker 7: Like she's the next person. She's been really ban pushed.
• 33:15
  Speaker 7: I thought EO Sky would be higher, but I can't
• 33:19
  Speaker 7: really argue with anyone else.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know the thing about EO Sky here is that, well,
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: there's two women that you know, a lot of the
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: community said that EO Sky should have been higher. Uh.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: EO Sky had an eight match singles wrestling losing streak.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: She lost eight in a row during the evaluation period.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: That and then in and of itself in this KFA
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: blist probably ruined her chances. Another woman who was not
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: even in the list anywhere in the top two fifty
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: is Becky Lynch. Why because she didn't meet the criteria,
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: because she was out for seven months, she wasn't able
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: to meet the criteria to you know, make the list.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, there was no doubt that Becky Lynch is
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: definitely good enough to be in the top twenty, perhaps
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: even the top ten, maybe even the top five, but
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: she's just not on the litch list because she didn't
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: meet the criteria. So who else wants to give their
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: opinions about the women.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: I'll say one thing I found interesting is you look
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: at the cover. You know, normally you have the number
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: one who's on the cover, but at this time you
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: had Tony and verse Adi. I feel like, yeah, they're
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: one in two, but it's almost one A one B.
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: Like did you have to acknowledge what Tony Storm did
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: her character work? I mean how long she held the title.
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: But Mercedes wrestling all around the world and bring attention
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: to these smaller companies, to these women that have gotten
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: the chance to wrestle her, even if they lose. I
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: just don't see how I can't have her at number one,
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: like I mean Tony Storm here, I mean you can
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: say she carried the aw women's division, Mercedes Bonet built
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: up women's wrestling all around the world. As far as
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: the rest of the top ten, I think it's pretty
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: spot on.
• 35:40
  Speaker 8: I don't watch WWE, so so I can't say, you know, yes,
• 35:45
  Speaker 8: they absolutely should be there, but I know both like
• 35:49
  Speaker 8: Tiffany Stratton, Septie Kerr, they were champions, they you know,
• 35:53
  Speaker 8: had a lot of focus on them.
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: So it's one of those.
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: I think the top ten is pretty spot on, and
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: that top spot it feels like, like I said, one
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: a one fee more than one in two.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean one of the big arguments with Mercedes
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: Monet is that Tony Storm beat Mercedes Monett. But to
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: your point is something you said about Mercedes Money going
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: around the world and wrestling. If you look at who
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: she wrestled globally and look at this PWI two point fifty,
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: you'll see a lot of the names that she beat in,
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: you know, places like Austria and Italy and England and
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: Mexico on this list, which I'm sorry, but I think
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: what Mercedes Monett is doing is fantastic for women's wrestling.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: I really do. She's putting in on the map globally,
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: not just within a single company. And the weird thing
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: about it is.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: If you go on.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Online and look on Reddit, and not the aw fhanhub subreddit,
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: but the other subreddit's like Greatness of Wrestling. I mean,
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: these people still call Mercedes Monet Sasha Banks. They have
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: no clue what goes on in any other promotion. A
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: lot of them don't other than WWE. They are such
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: cult it's so weird to me. I don't understand it.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, I can understand watching one promotion. If that's
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: what you like to do, more power to you. And
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying anything bad about doing that. What I
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: don't like is that you watch your one promotion, talk
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: about your one promotion. Don't pretend to know anything about
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: what's going on in aaw Ring of Honor, Stardom, tjp W, TNA, whatever,
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: because you just don't know. You know, it's really getting
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: It's just so annoying that people just they spew out
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: of their mouth all the stuff, and it doesn't make
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: any sense because it's obvious that they don't watch.
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: I mean, I've said time and time again, there's a
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: difference between being a professional wrestling fan and a fan
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: of one particular professional wrestling company, you know exactly. I
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: don't watch a time. I watch AW I watch New Japan.
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: I watched Stardom in CMLL when I can.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: Same with Roight.
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: I don't watch WWE because I'm just not a fan
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: of what their product is, you know. I I keep
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: up with kind I try to keep up with kind
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: of like the main goings on there, so I can
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: at least I say, oh, yeah, that's happening, but I
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: don't really. But I don't go out of my way
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: to talk about WWE either, because I don't watch it regularly.
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: If you don't watch something regularly, how can you really
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: have a informed opinion on it. That's like saying, because
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: you watch the Super Bowl, you can talk about football
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: all day every day. No, but that's okay. You don't
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: have to know everything about every wrestling company. Just talk
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: about the wrestling you watch, talk about what you enjoy,
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: and don't hit on what other people enjoy. I mean,
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: it's not difficult.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: Well it's not.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: Only Look, wrestling is in rocket science and you don't
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: even really have to watch the matches to know who
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: the champions are, who has belts. Who's what I mean. Look,
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: if you don't watch WWE, do you know that EO.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Sky is well respected as a fantastic women's wrestler w
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: w E?
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: Yes, because I well I do, because I've seen enough
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: and I know that it's one of those I think
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: if you hear their name and see people talking about them,
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: well you're gonna know. Okay, they're well respected, so that's cool.
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: But I'm just saying don't talk about what you don't
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: know about.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, the other thing is is like, look if
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: somebody mentions Zo Sky and how good EO Sky is
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: or whoever, that you really don't know. There's this thing
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: called Google, There's this thing called YouTube. There's all kinds
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: of resources out there where if you really want to
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: know who a wrestler is, you could educate yourself pretty
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: damn quick instead of talking bad about something that you
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. And for
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: God's sake, the biggest thing that annoy me, there's two
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: things that annoy me about the internet wrestling community. If
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: they don't know something, they will literally say, who just
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: go look it up? Why are you wasting everybody's time posting?
• 41:15
  Speaker 6: Who?
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: What?
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's just the dumbest thing that anybody can do.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: The second thing, I don't know if I should even
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: bring this up, but I'm not even gonna bring it. Well, look,
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: the internet wrestling community likes what they like and they
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: ignore what they don't like. I'll just put it that way.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: But even though they ignore what they don't like, which
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: there's nothing wrong with it, it doesn't preclude them from
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: lappender gums or using the little stubby fingers to type
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: out generous insults about something that they have absolutely no
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: idea what they're looking. Edit exposes people as being ignorant.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: And because when you talk about something that you don't
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: have a clue what you're talking about. I'm sorry, but
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: you expose yourself. Nobody's smart enough to talk about brain
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: surgery without knowing anything about brain surgery. It's it's just
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: it's just the facts. Now, let's go to you. What
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: do you think about this list? Is there anything that
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: stood out to you?
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: I haven't looked at the list yet, so no, I
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: just know who was like in the top five kind
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: of from browsing online, but I haven't looked in depth
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: at the list. So see, I'm taking your advice, Tolson,
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: I'm not just pretending to know.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing, and here's a question that I
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: can ask you. So Saya Kaatani is number three on
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: this list by far, has probably arguably had the year
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: of years women's wrestling. She's had more matches this year
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: than both Tony Storm and to and Mercedes Monet combined,
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: like twenty more matches than both of them combined all right,
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: you think Tony Storm. I think Tony Storm has had
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: thirty four matches, Mercedes has had thirty one, and Saya
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Kamatani has had like eighty three or something like that.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: But one of the things, again, we're talking Pro Wrestling Illustrated,
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: which is obviously a North American company with probably North
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: American people on the committee. Do you think that having
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: a wrestler like Saya Kamatani who doesn't speak a word
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: of English, hertz are not only in a list like this,
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: but overall globally.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: I don't think it, because it brings more people to
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: look at her and get to know her that may
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: not and for people that are fans of hers, it's
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: good that they see her in, like you said, a
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: North American kind of publication, because it can bring more
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: fans into the fold. On both sides, I think it's good.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: I think it's good to have a lot of the women,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: like you were saying, on the list that Mercedes Monette
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: wrestled from all over the world. It brings more fans
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: in and brings us all together in something we all
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: really are passionate about. So I'm glad that they had
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: her there and I'm glad that they have the other
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: ladies on the list too. It's I think it's a
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: good thing.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: Is there anybody that hasn't gone yet on this.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: No?
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: All right, then let's go to our potpaur resection because
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: I think that the popa resection is going to be
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: quite uh interesting tonight. But I'm gonna throw it to
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: the uh to the podcast team here. Is there anything?
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: Does anybody have a potpourri that they want to bring up?
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: I want to talk about my wrestling theories with the
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: Young Bucks because I think something big is going to
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: happen with them, but I don't know what. I usually
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: have a pretty good eye for what's going on kind
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: of behind the scenes, because I'm very much into the storytelling.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: But I was watching the latest being the Elite episode,
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: and I just have a feeling that Ocada is going
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: to do something to the Young Bucks. Like everybody has
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: their eyes on Okada and Takeshta and what story they
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: have going. But I just keep getting the feeling that
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: he's going to do something to the Young Bucks. There's
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: that whole thing about them being pressure to join the
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: don Callous family, to come on over and join the
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: Don Callous family, and Okada just has a look about
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: him when he's talking to them that he's going to
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: do something to them, either in terms of kind of
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: backstabbing them or if it looks like they are going
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: to join the don Callus family, Okada is actually the
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: one that is going to kind of betray them. Where
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: everybody thinks that it's Takeshta, there's there's a big story.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: Are you bruin there? And I was wondering if anyone
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: else is kind of caught onto it and has any
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: ideas about what it might be.
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: I definitely noticed it, you know, last week when he's like,
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: don't take too long, and then again he was like
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: don't take too long. I feel like something's gonna happen
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: at full gear, Like the Young Bucks and Alexander will
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: win the match through some shenanigans and then they'll be
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: like beating Kenny Omega down and wanting the Young Bucks
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: to attack them. But they're gonna be They're gonna be
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: torn because even though they're it's strange, you know, Kenny
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: Omega is still their brother.
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: You know, it's gonna be right.
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: I know what I know we did stuff to him,
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: but there's a difference between me attacking my brother and
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: you attacking my brother. Like I can beat up my brother,
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: you can't. So I I think I think we could
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: see something happen at full gear there where they don't
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: join and Okada is hiss, like.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: But can your brother beat up my brother?
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: Yeh probably, but you know.
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: Like he's gonna I think he's gonna be pissed because
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: it's like, why would you pick Omega over me? I
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: beat him, I'm better than him. You know, I'm the guy.
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: Why don't you want me? Why am I not your brother?
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: Why is it him? Like I can definitely see one
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: of those kind of like because o'conda is pretty.
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: He's a pretty stowic guy, and most of the time,
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: you know, he'll do his little goofy stuff, but most
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: of the time, you know, he's pretty serious. So I
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: think it'd be interesting if he is, like you really
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: see some real emotion from him because he sees the
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: young buckses, you know, he sees them as brothers. He
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: wants them as part of his family. But they're gonna
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: choose Omega once again, and at least, you know, that's
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: kind of my theory on the whole situation. So yeah,
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: it's definitely interesting. I definitely want to see how all
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: that plays out.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: All right, Well, does anybody else have a pope reason
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: they want to talk about, because I've got a couple.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: I have one, go ahead.
• 49:37
  Speaker 6: I mentioned Megan Bain a while back, and so it
• 49:40
  Speaker 6: tells a little bit about her journey throughout this last
• 49:43
  Speaker 6: few weeks, and I just want to get props to
• 49:45
  Speaker 6: her because she's held her own and she's in this
• 49:49
  Speaker 6: tag tournament and stardom, and she went over there and
• 49:51
  Speaker 6: also did some trading shots with Bozilla, who, by the way,
• 49:55
  Speaker 6: I would really like to come back to AW whenever
• 49:58
  Speaker 6: she can. But she doing it, and like I said,
• 50:02
  Speaker 6: she deserves the most credit for everything that's going on,
• 50:05
  Speaker 6: even with the negativity that's going on with AW surrounding
• 50:12
  Speaker 6: to the two that left, which I'm sure we'll get
• 50:16
  Speaker 6: to later, but I just feel, you know, she did
• 50:19
  Speaker 6: the best she could in situation, and she's she's the
• 50:22
  Speaker 6: next star.
• 50:23
  Speaker 5: I really do believe.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, did you happen to see the video highlights
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: of her confrontation with Mozilla?
• 50:33
  Speaker 5: Yes, they traded shots quite well.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, that was power bomb and dives and
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: everything else. I mean those two women for their size,
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: they are very athletic and very uh, I guess nimble
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: is the best way to put it. They've got a
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: lot of power, but they've got the athleticism to go
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: with it.
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they're a clothesline and erman souplex change.
• 51:00
  Speaker 6: That was.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: That was great? Like, I love that.
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: I need to see some more of it, but I
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: only saw, like, you know, probably a forty second clip.
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: But man, a single match between them would be oh
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: so so much fun, just straight up hof battle, Like
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: I'd love to see that.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think everybody would. Does anybody else have a potporie?
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: No?
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: Well, let's uh talk about something that I found very
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: disturbing and I want to talk about it because did
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: you guys happen to see the Thanksgiving commercial that aw did?
• 51:52
  Speaker 8: Yeah?
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: I loved it, right, but no, I didn't see it.
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: You didn't see it. Well, it's their beware. It's got
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: it's basically for the people that haven't seen it. It's
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: basically one of those things where everybody shows up at
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: Brian Danielson's house and to have Thanksgiving dinner, and there
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: was the triangle of madness. There were the young Bucks
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: was Eddie Kingston. Uh, there was Tony Storm and Mina
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: Shirkawa and a few other people and they're all gathered
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: around the table and uh, Brian Danielson says, okay. He
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: gets up, stands up, and he yells out who brought
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: the turkey? And that disturbed me because Brian Daniels is
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: a vegan. What the hell is he doing wanting a turkey?
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: All right?
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: I saw I can't remember it a few I saw it. Like,
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: he's not a full long vegan. He's one of those
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: like ninety percent of the time he does vegan, but
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: he will, you know, if he like for Thanksgiving, he
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: would eat turkey, you know, something like that.
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: So it, yeah, he's mostly.
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: Okay. So it's kind of like it's like people that
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: eat that said that don't really smoke pot, but do
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: when they're awake.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: Okay, maybe he's maybe he meant that, what is it
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: that that to Ferky that Yeah, maybe he meant that
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: in kind of a joking way or something. Maybe it's
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: just a big joke.
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: Well, well, Harley Cameron came through. She had the turkey
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: on her hand as a hand puppet. But that was
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: the turkey. It was It was a good commercial at
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: w He's been knocking it out of the park with
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: these commercials. Well, let's move on. I just being silly
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: because I thought that Brian Anderson was a vegan, full
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: on be vegan, not one of those dime store vegans,
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: you know. I thought he was one of those annoying vegans.
• 54:02
  Speaker 5: He's a vegan with commitment issues.
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: There you go. Yeah, but uh, I don't really want
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: to get into a whole lot about this, but I
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: did want to hear your guys' thoughts about this. Nixon
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: Nowle and Miranda Alise leaving Collision because well, the initial
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: story was that they left because they were booked to
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: lose Dana Jay and Tyme Mellow. That was not the case.
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: They left because it was only a three minute match.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: They were booked to wrestle. What do you guys think
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: about this?
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: They're idiots.
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry. You can't you can't be like, oh, I'm
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: having trouble getting booking, and then when you get when
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: you get a booking for one of the two biggest
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: companies and in the country on national television, you can't
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: leave because they're not giving you enough time. Like, I'm sorry,
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: figure out how to make those three minutes. Like, there's
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: a difference between knowing your worth and overvaluing yourself, and
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: they overvalued themselves. Now they they've screwed themselves over most likely,
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: I mean, why would AW want to use them again
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: when they're like, you're not giving us what we want,
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: We're gonna leave and screw you over.
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: No, the two women who.
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: Took their spots made the most of their time, and
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: they are guaranteeing going to get more opportunities.
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: You know, like maya world who took their time. I
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: believe in that p w I two fifty. She was
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: top one hundred. She's no joke, she's not a slouch.
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, both of those women are challenged and they didn't
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: all get three minutes.
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: They're like, okay, we'll do it.
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: Even having a vaccinator in the night, they're like, okay, yeah,
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: we're gonna take the opportunity that's being presented to us
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: and make the most. If you think you're too good
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: for that, you're never gonna make it in the business. Like,
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: because here's the deal. Thirty seconds and no offense could
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: lead to two minutes and a little offense, which could
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: lead to five minutes and decent offense, which could lead
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: to a competitive ten minute match, Like you never the
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: worst thing you can do is say I'm too good
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: for that, and that's what they did, and they've they've
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: made complete asses of themselves by following up with you
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: know the deal on Twitch and Instagram and like, you
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: went from having an opportunity with one of the two
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: biggest companies in the country to torpedoing your entire career
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: all because you thought you deserved more time in your
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: second ever match being an unsigned talent.
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: And it's not like the they were just given this
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: opportunity and then thank you for coming, You're going home.
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: They actually was reported that they actually filmed a vignette
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: for a backstage interview for Rigam Honor, so they were
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: definitely going to be put into a program in that
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: which they probably screwed themselves out of.
• 57:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, look, I see.
• 57:22
  Speaker 6: This is what Darby Ala was talking about a while ago,
• 57:24
  Speaker 6: was we don't need people in w in AAW who
• 57:28
  Speaker 6: are there just because oh look I was on I
• 57:33
  Speaker 6: was on WWE programming for not that long, but that
• 57:36
  Speaker 6: means I'm better than you. We just don't AW doesn't
• 57:41
  Speaker 6: need it. It was a bad move. I like to
• 57:45
  Speaker 6: say I understand where they're coming from, but I don't, because.
• 57:49
  Speaker 5: You take what you're given and I don't.
• 57:51
  Speaker 6: And I just think they they thought they were better,
• 57:55
  Speaker 6: but talent wise, I really had never heard of them
• 57:58
  Speaker 6: before this. I know people have you know, mentioned, but
• 58:03
  Speaker 6: I just don't know them from anywhere. I know Kelson
• 58:06
  Speaker 6: said early you shouldn't say who, but I really don't
• 58:09
  Speaker 6: know what. I don't really care to look up who
• 58:11
  Speaker 6: these two were so.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: Right, well, you know, not to be disrespectful, but this
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: news broke a long time ago. If you don't know who,
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: that means you didn't really take the time or effort
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: to look them up. So it is what it is.
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: Just you know, Nixon Dowell used to be teaking knocks
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: in w w E. Before that, she was wrestling overseas.
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: As matter of fact, she was a participant in the
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: first ever steel cage match. I believe it was a
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: three way, but it was a steel cage match, the
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: first ever steel cage match in England, and one of
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: her opponents was timeless Tony Storm in that match and
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: Storm won the match by the way. Go ahead, dad,
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: Oh no, that's okay. I was just gonna say something
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: about them. I don't I don't know a lot about them,
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: but one or both of them I know, supposedly has
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: some kind of interpersonal issues with Megan Bain. There's some
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: kind of dislike on one or both of their parts
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: back and forth with Megan Bain. So I don't know
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: if that played into anything. And also I think it
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: was the last podcast we were talking about with about
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: toxic fans and how some wrestling fans really have bad behavior.
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: I know that after supposedly after Collision aired and news
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: broke about them walking out, they were saying that they
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: woke up the next day to death threat. It's online,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: and that's just what we were talking about with with
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: fans and people that are really cruel to people that
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: are out there, you know, for our enjoyment and entertainment.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: So no matter what happened, there's no place for that
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: kind of stuff and death threats.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: Death threats are completely ridiculous for something like that. Like look,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: I obviously agree with what they did at all. I
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: think they were dumb for it. I think their follow
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: up to it was dumb, But sending someone death threats
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: over that is just you were the worst kind of
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: I don't even want to say person because I don't
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 4: want to associate those people with human beings. Like if
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: you were sending death threats to someone over professional wrestling,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 4: you need to seek professional.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: Help, you do. You know what?
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: He didn't have We done have shut the hell up yet,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: because I feel like people who said it's over professional
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: wrestling need to shut the hell up.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: We had done to shut the hell up yet, but
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: now we have.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: Now we've got it. Thank you.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: Sorry to from you.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: It was warranted.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: Well no, but I you know, but yeah, I mean, look,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: you know, shut the hell up. So Marcus something to say.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: Touch on this subject a little bit.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 7: So I felt a little bamboozle after they did that
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 7: because I was someone that was actually excited to see them. Well,
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 7: I remember Nixon, she was actually gonna be in the
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 7: May Young Clanc and I think she blew out her
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 7: knee and she was coming back, and I think she
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 7: was actually gonna beat Real Ripley when Real Ripley had
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 7: changed her whole game or whatever, and then she blew
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 7: out her knee again. And after that it was kind
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 7: of like, you know, she was around, but she really
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 7: wasn't doing she had a nice tag team with the
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 7: tai H As far as Miranda Ali's I remember her
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 7: because she was in the Ring of Honor Women's titled
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 7: tournament and she lost to Rock San Perez. I always
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 7: want to say, maybe I'm saying, but yeah, So I
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 7: thought they would be, you know, a w's building up
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 7: a tag division. You know, they come in, you know,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 7: show that they can, you know, work around, work with
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 7: this company, work with the wrestlers. And then I'm watching Collision,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 7: I see the match, and I get on Twitter, and
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 7: Miranda's tweet is the first thing I see. It's one
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 7: of the first things that I see. And apparently that
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 7: was the clue to everyone that something happened, Like nobody
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 7: else had reported anything until she tweeted that about they
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 7: had so much to tell, like nobody said anything until
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 7: she said something, and that kind of snowballed into what
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 7: we have now. And I just think they kind of
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 7: shot themselves in the foot. And the reason I know
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 7: they shot themselves in the foot is every a top
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 7: wrestler that either tweeted about it or sub tweeted about it.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 7: None of them were in the defense of Nixon or Miranda.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 7: And I saw the interview where Nixon was complaining about
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 7: not getting bookings and not having not getting enough matches.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and so I was like, yeah, look, you got
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: to start somewhere. You can't just expect to go in
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: a company and just take it over, because especially when
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: in your old company you were a mid carter. I mean,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: you're not someone like EO. Sky or rear Ripley. If
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: they were to come over to AW, they would be
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: superstars right out the bat, you know what I'm saying.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 7: I mean he was released twice.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: So look I did see. Yeah, well a lot of
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: that to do with I mean, she is injury prone,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: so even hiring her is risky because of her injuries.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: But look, I saw people like Tyavalkyri respond. You know,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: I saw people women that had wrestled on AW but
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: were never signed to AW, wrestled Ring of Honor, who
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: never signed a Ring of Honor, talking about we would
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: love to have one of them. Nicky XS said that
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  Speaker 2: she had a sixty second match on Ring of Honor,
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  Speaker 2: but she looked good doing it, and she doubled her
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: followers or something like that during that time and became
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: more popular just because of the sixty second match. She did.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: But beyond that, look at some of the women that
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: are popular now in AW. I will throw names out
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: at you, and these women are all women that when
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: they first came or first presented in AW they were
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: jobbing out like crazy, participating in multiple squash matches. They
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: had some matches that went longer, but they were getting
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: beat the hell. Willow Nightingale, Queen Amanada, Julia Hart, sky
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: Blue sky Blue is a really good example of this.
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  Speaker 2: This woman was just of course, she was on dark
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: and dark elevation a lot. She was getting squashed constantly.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: Somebody needs the mute. She was getting squashed constantly. Then
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: when it came to twenty twenty three, sky Blue had
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: more matches. Sky Blue had more matches in twenty twenty
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: three than any other AEW wrestler men and women. Sky
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: Blue was number one in twenty twenty three, and that
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: was because she started out small and she worked herself
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: up to where she was wrestling consequently in the women's
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: division in twenty twenty three. Sky Blue had more wins
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: than any other woman in twenty twenty three, and she
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: had more losses than any other women in twenty twenty three.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: She was the top of the winds at top of
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: the losses in twenty twenty three. But look at what
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: sky Blue is right now if it had not been
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: for that injury that she suffered, and frankly even with
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: Julia Heart's injury as well. I mean it kind of
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: put the Sisters of Sin on the shelf for quite
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: a while. They're back now. Sky Blue is doing fantastic.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: Julia Hart's doing fantastic. Julia Hart got out to a
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: slow start, as did I think sky Blue, but they
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: really came into their own over these last several weeks.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: And what they did, they looked so good in CMLL.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: I thought they looked fantastic in CMLL. They were in
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: their element. And don't forget these were you know, up
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: at elevation too, you know, in the Mexico City and
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: all that. You know, So that's that's something else. But
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: the point is is that you've got to work. You've
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: got to earn your spot. You're not just giving it
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: unless you're a main eventor from somewhere else. Nixon Nowell
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: was never a main eventor in WWE, so she shouldn't
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: be treated as such. You get three minutes, You take
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: the three minutes that you go with it. It's not
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: like wins and losses are going to, you know, define you.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: But here's another question. Does anybody here, because it's crossed
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: my mind, does anybody here think that this whole thing
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: is a work? No, it kind of stinks like a
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: work to me.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: I just feel like it's too weird to be a
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 4: work like. And also their responses aren't really they don't
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 4: seem like it's a work. Just because of the Instagram
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 4: post and.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: The twitch and all that. It's like, well.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: Though, buddy, that's what you do.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: But they seem like they don't seem like genuinely.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 8: Up set.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: They seem like they're just like whatever we left because
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 3: we're better than that. Like it's just but is it
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: that what you would do if you were doing the work?
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: The other thing I'll bring up, Chris, listen, why is
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: it that Maya World did that? And I apologize I
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: can't remember your name, but the why is it that
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: Maya World? And then the other woman we're there. It's
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: such a drop of the hat short notice.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 3: Because they were having a match on Ring of Honor afterwards.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: Okay, well that makes sense.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not like they were just there and not
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 4: going to be doing anything like they stepped up, you know,
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 4: even though they had another match or a schedule. Like
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 4: I think if it was the work you would have had,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 4: you know, people who don't get a lot of time
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 4: already that already worked there instead of you know, using
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 4: people you already had something planned for. That's another big reason.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 4: And also if they haven't really responded to, like if
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 4: it was the work they would have, you know, replied
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 4: to some of the other wrestlers in a w SA
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 4: stuff where I haven't really seen.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: Any of that from them their own stuff.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 4: They haven't you know, they haven't replied to you know,
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 4: let tie of Valkyrie. I would have been an easy
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 4: deal if it was the work they reply there. And
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 4: there's too much you they should have done if it
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 4: was a work that they haven't done.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Andy, Also the opinion on this before
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: we wrap up the show.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 4: I actually did have one pop I thought of as
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 4: we were in discussing, Okay, go for it, an well,
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 4: anyone else who wants to comment on the work.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: Thing, Marcus, did you have something to say?
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 7: I had that came to my mind as well, So
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 7: I was gonna wait.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: To okay, So Chris Goo have with your potpourri them,
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: We'll let Marcus go with.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 4: His Okay, not completely awd, but Okada has talents Kanahatski
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 4: for his retirement match, and the i w TP title
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 4: match is set between Kenoski Taqushka and Yo Tasuiti. I
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 4: you know, I'm one of those who like, yeah, the
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 4: world title should probably be the main event, but I
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 4: think this is one of those times where you make
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 4: an exception because not just because, I mean, it's Tanahashi's
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 4: last match, and Tanahashi is a legendary rivalry that is
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 4: responsible for or at least partially responsible for, you know,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 4: New Japan rising back up. It's I think it's just
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 4: going to be such an emotional match that nothing is
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 4: going to be able to follow it. Like to Chestin,
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 4: since you are going to have a great match, they've
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 4: had great matches before, you know, but they could have
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 4: the match of the century. But I just feel like
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 4: the crowd is going to be emotionally drained after Tanahassee
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 4: and Okada, and I just feel like it has to
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 4: be the main event.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: Just want on that.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, I mean all you have to
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: do is go back to Revolution two years ago. Sting
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: and Darby Allen against the Young Bucks was not the
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: best match on the card, but it was the best
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: match on the card. It should have been the mean event.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: You understand what I'm saying there.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 4: I completely agree with you, Like, hey, there's sometimes a
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 4: mass is bigger than the title, and I mean it's
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 4: a ton of hashy like this is he's the ace
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 4: the crowd. You know, he's the guy for New Japan.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 4: I think I just don't. I don't see how you
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 4: don't make it the main.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: Of Nope, I agree with you.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: I do.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: I agree with you that. Well, then let's go to
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: Marcus and uh bring us on.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 7: To speak on with the ton of high Kada. So
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 7: he kind of got that with It also opens the
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 7: door for to teste Ilkada World Zoom.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 3: Which is nice.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 7: And then this is kind of an r ip moment
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 7: to the Royal Rampage that we're going to hit this year.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, well, okay, are you here? Guess he's not
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: all right? So that is going to be ignition. We
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: normally do a all the Talk, which is our Dynamite
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: review showed right after Dynamite, but because tomorrow night's Blooding
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: Guts Dynamite is two and a half hours long. If
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: we're mostly on the East Coast, we're gonna take a
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: break for the week. We'll be back in two weeks
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: for for the show on Wednesday after Dynamite, and of
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: course next Tuesday. Keep forgetting that we've got Full Gear
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: coming up in less than two weeks now, right, so
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: I believe next Tuesday is the go home Dynamite. We'll
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: be doing our prediction show, and that's one thing that
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: I think we need to look forward to. Tomorrow Night
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: is both Tomorrow Night and on Collision will be matches
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: and stories being built very quickly for Full Gear. Anyway,
• 1:15:28
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