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Tom Zawistowski - WeThePeopleConvention.org · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 2: great having you on the program Sir.
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  Speaker 1: Call, it's great to be back with you again. Brian,
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  Speaker 1: welcome back to you. And lot's going on in the world,
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  Speaker 1: and you've you've got a good show. Who worries so far.
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  Speaker 1: I've enjoyed listening and you brought up the Haiti thing,
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  Speaker 1: and boy, there's just so many things that we got
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  Speaker 1: to talk about.
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  Speaker 2: Oh so many.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I just especially with the five o'clock I had no
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  Speaker 2: idea where I wanted to start it and end I'm
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  Speaker 2: going through like nine gajillion tops and a stream of
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  Speaker 2: consciousness that went off for like fifteen minutes when the
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  Speaker 2: show began, so I feel like I had to apologize
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  Speaker 2: for that. But you know, it is kind of amazing.
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  Speaker 2: Your job, my job, trying to pay attention to really
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  Speaker 2: what's important in the world, and it's so much in
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  Speaker 2: the world that's happening that is so important.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 2: I finished the show on a Friday nine and I
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  Speaker 2: stare over at a stack that's usually at least a
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  Speaker 2: ream of paper worth, if not more, of articles that
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  Speaker 2: I didn't even get to during the week. So it
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  Speaker 2: can be frustrating trying to handle all these topics because
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  Speaker 2: everything seems so important, Tom, and yet so few people
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  Speaker 2: pay as close attention as folks like you and I
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  Speaker 2: do to this, And that's what disturbs me, because if
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  Speaker 2: people were better informed and paid closer attention and then
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  Speaker 2: showed up and vote armed with the information they should
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  Speaker 2: have about their candidates, I think we'd be in a
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  Speaker 2: much better world. Tom.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I agree with that, and I think that's why
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  Speaker 1: your show is so important. I mean, I live an
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  Speaker 1: akron I listen to your show every mornings because it's great.
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  Speaker 1: It's just great information. You have great guests, you have
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  Speaker 1: congressmen on, you have experts like Judsept, Paul Tano and
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  Speaker 1: and you know people are looking for that. But it's
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  Speaker 1: also I mean, I don't know if you agree or not,
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  Speaker 1: but I think our job is harder now than ever. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there's more information, but trying to find the bloody truth
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  Speaker 1: is this oh challenge nowadays? Right?
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  Speaker 2: And now that we have doctor Fauci's personal diaries which
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  Speaker 2: are basically documenting all of his perjury, so how long
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  Speaker 2: did it take for us to find out that, yes,
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  Speaker 2: all along we have been outright lied to. You know,
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  Speaker 2: it just takes forever for that information to come out.
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  Speaker 2: But this is the kind of thing we need and
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  Speaker 2: need to talk about, you know. And the other component
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  Speaker 2: is what makes it even harder, Tom, in this internet
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  Speaker 2: age we live in, and when you see a guy
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  Speaker 2: like the Mayor of New York City creating and publishing
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  Speaker 2: a searchable database of every property that's going to be
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  Speaker 2: subject to this PA to tear tax, it's so bacically
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  Speaker 2: docsing thousands of wealthy New Yorkers who invested money in
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  Speaker 2: the city by buying a home there. Now he's publishing
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  Speaker 2: their names and their addresses. To what end and for
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  Speaker 2: what purpose? The world is filled with a bunch of
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  Speaker 2: people who are going to go out and attack you
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  Speaker 2: and tell people where you live and suggest, maybe even
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  Speaker 2: just on a remote level, that you should do something
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  Speaker 2: about it. And they're appealing to the nutcases of the
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  Speaker 2: world who actually might take it upon themselves to go
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  Speaker 2: out and do something violent, which we see more and
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  Speaker 2: more every day. It's a compounding problem.
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  Speaker 1: Tom, Well, this is why it's got to be stopped.
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  Speaker 1: There's gotta be you know, there's got to be legal
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  Speaker 1: implications for this, because you're exactly right, what is that.
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  Speaker 1: This is a mayor of New York who I quite
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  Speaker 1: frankly think should be deported because you're illegal. Okay, But
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  Speaker 1: here he is literally putting a target on people's back. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: that can't be legal. There's got to be some federal
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  Speaker 1: law that says, you know, doing that is a threat
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  Speaker 1: to people. And yet this seems to be the modus
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  Speaker 1: operandi for the whole Democrat solicials of America. Right. This
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  Speaker 1: is what they do with ice, This is what they do,
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  Speaker 1: you know, with the other politicians. How about the one
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  Speaker 1: Democratic congressman who said his vote was influenced because of
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  Speaker 1: the attacks on his family. You can't have that, And
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  Speaker 1: so why were the people who did attacks and his
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  Speaker 1: family arrested. That's the thing that you and I are
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  Speaker 1: losing our minds over because if you and I do anything,
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  Speaker 1: you know, heck, if you say the wrong word, the
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  Speaker 1: FCC will come down by you. Right that these people,
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  Speaker 1: you know, can do. You can literally get people attacked
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  Speaker 1: physically and then they let them out of prison. How
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  Speaker 1: can this be? I thought the Sanders was pushing to
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  Speaker 1: have a judge impeached, you know, who'd let this criminal out?
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  Speaker 1: Who is within days? Then you're tortured and killed the
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  Speaker 1: five year old? You know? Yeah, when is that judge
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  Speaker 1: going to be impeached? That's what's most frustrating. I think
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  Speaker 1: to you listeners and to all Americas, we want equal
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  Speaker 1: justice under the law. We want the law enforced. It's
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  Speaker 1: not being that's the problem.
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  Speaker 2: No question about it. Well, and we all know where
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  Speaker 2: the violence is predominantly coming from, and apparently it isn't
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  Speaker 2: members of the Klan, to the extent that four people
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  Speaker 2: who are still members of the clan are out in
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  Speaker 2: the world. It's not the white supremacist of the world
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  Speaker 2: that the Democrats kept screaming and yelling about while they
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  Speaker 2: were going after Christians and Catholics and other people for
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  Speaker 2: exercising their faith. It's the left wing that embraces violence
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  Speaker 2: time and time and time and time again, and you
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  Speaker 2: just can't ignore it. Well, at least the truth is
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  Speaker 2: coming out, one little story at a time that you
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  Speaker 2: and I are trying to stay on top of, Tom,
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  Speaker 2: including let's talk about the Haitians. We got this new
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  Speaker 2: Supreme Court case. Apparently some immigration enforcement action come in
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  Speaker 2: Ohio's way, notably Springfield. Maybe Tom can answer the question
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  Speaker 2: of how is it that the wine was so embracing
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  Speaker 2: the Haitian community and what might become of that? Don't
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  Speaker 2: go away more with Tom's a fask. You're going through
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  Speaker 2: the issues. We're going to dive on into the hate
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  Speaker 2: situation following the Supreme Court's decision, which has been certified.
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  Speaker 2: Let me read very quickly here Tom, as we segue
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  Speaker 2: into this what might happen to the Haitian community, most
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  Speaker 2: notably in Springfield. The definition of temporary something that is
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  Speaker 2: not permanent, lasts for a short time, or is meant
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  Speaker 2: to be used for a limited period. See Merriam Webster
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  Speaker 2: or the Cambridge Dictionary or any other dictionary in your area.
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  Speaker 2: Temporary means temporary. We needed a Supreme Court decision to
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  Speaker 2: say that, Tom, So we finally we find out that no,
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  Speaker 2: it's over with. It's been declared over and so people
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  Speaker 2: who didn't seek permanent status here in the United States
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  Speaker 2: are now eligible for deportation. So I guess, Tom, how
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  Speaker 2: did all the Haitians end up in Springfield? If you
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  Speaker 2: have any insight into that? I know, apparently Mike the
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  Speaker 2: Wine had some connection with the Asian community. But what
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  Speaker 2: is this going to mean to Springfield? You're analysis Tom's Awastowski.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's clear that Mike the Wine has
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  Speaker 1: a personal interest in Haiti. There's an orphanage there that apparently,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he helped fund and set up. His daughter
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  Speaker 1: has been involved, and you know, and you mentioned earlier
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  Speaker 1: about Swinton, there's some weird involvement there. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of the money that with Chelsea Clinton's wedding
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  Speaker 1: came from financial aid to Haiti. That the Clinton stole
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  Speaker 1: like nine million dollars for her wedding. He can look
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  Speaker 1: bad up if you like. But that's the deal. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: You know, here's here's the Mike the Wine you know,
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  Speaker 1: who's had this personal interest which he's never fully disclosed, right,
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  Speaker 1: and and now he's out there fighting to keep these
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  Speaker 1: people in Springfield. And I'm looking at this thing, the data.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he's saying, I love this quote. He's on
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  Speaker 1: CNN on this post on X He's on CNN is
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  Speaker 1: talking about how, uh, you know, these people if they
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  Speaker 1: lose their temporary set us, they won't be able to work,
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  Speaker 1: they won't be able to make a living. It'll be
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  Speaker 1: a big blow. They came here to fill American jobs.
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  Speaker 1: They came here to fill American jobs. Yet, hey, Mike,
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  Speaker 1: I just looked it up before you know. We came
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  Speaker 1: on the show here this morning. There's two hundred and
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  Speaker 1: nine thousand Ohians looking for jobs and this ten thousand Asians.
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  Speaker 1: You don't want them deported, but those jobs that those
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  Speaker 1: Haitians have could go to those two hundred and nine
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  Speaker 1: thousand Ohioans. We're here legally. You're supposed to be the
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  Speaker 1: governor of Ohio. You're supposed to be a Republican, you're
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  Speaker 1: supposed to be fighting for us. Instead you're fighting for them.
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  Speaker 1: That should raise everyone's you know, antenna and say what's
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  Speaker 1: going on here? Because as you said, temporary Supreme Courts
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  Speaker 1: agreed means temporary. So how long do you keep them here? Mike?
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  Speaker 1: And the answer is that their goal all along, back
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  Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety when they created this month there, the
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  Speaker 1: goal all along was never to make it temporary. They
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  Speaker 1: never sent anybody home, Brian. And that's the problem, because
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  Speaker 1: you know, they buy homes, they have jobs, they're using
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  Speaker 1: tax fair dollars. Sixty eight percent of the Haitians in
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  Speaker 1: Springfield are getting government assistants. And so yeah, that helps
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  Speaker 1: your comment because you hire poring money into Springfield that
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  Speaker 1: help them work these people, Why don't we get some
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  Speaker 1: real Americans. They're doing these jobs, paying taxes to help
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  Speaker 1: support us.
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  Speaker 2: All right, You raised an interesting question on that because
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  Speaker 2: I know now that since there is at least a
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  Speaker 2: minimalist work requirement to receive public benefits if you are
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  Speaker 2: an able bodied, working age person, obviously there's some jobs
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  Speaker 2: availability there for the Haitian community leavest, what type of
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  Speaker 2: jobs are they actually doing that these Ohioans without employment
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  Speaker 2: could actually do. I mean they're not surgeons. I presume
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  Speaker 2: you don't need a six year college degree. This is
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  Speaker 2: is it manual labor? Is it manufacturing work? Do you
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  Speaker 2: have any insight into that?
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  Speaker 1: Tom, Yeah, from what I understand that everyone should follow
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  Speaker 1: Jack Windsor's excellent reporting on this, because what they're doing
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  Speaker 1: is light manufacturing. You know, they're packaging things, they're working
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  Speaker 1: in plants where they're you know, they're just you know,
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  Speaker 1: work on an assembly line type of thing. It's manual labor,
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  Speaker 1: but it you know, nowadays, it pays a decent wage.
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  Speaker 1: And why aren't we pushing Ohioans to have these jobs?
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  Speaker 1: That's the thing that's just backwards for all of us.
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  Speaker 1: And then again, yes, we are the most generous country
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  Speaker 1: ever to exist. We care for whereveryone. Right. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you had an earthquake, you have a war, what have you?
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  Speaker 1: You know, we want to help you. But I explain
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  Speaker 1: this to me, min, how does if your country has
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  Speaker 1: an earthquake, how does this help your country recover for
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  Speaker 1: the earthquake? For us to take a bunch of your
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  Speaker 1: people and bring them here, how does that help both
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  Speaker 1: the earthquake?
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  Speaker 2: That's a legitimate question. Maybe you can answer this one
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  Speaker 2: because I was puzzling over this earlier. The temporary protection
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  Speaker 2: status applies to eligible foreign nationals from countries experiencing armed conflict,
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  Speaker 2: natural disasters, or extraordinary conditions to temporary live here. So
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  Speaker 2: which countries? And we could probably spend the next four
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  Speaker 2: hours going through all the places in the world where
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  Speaker 2: all of these things exist. You know, armed conflict that
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  Speaker 2: seems to be everywhere. Natural disasters, those happen all the time.
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  Speaker 2: So from within all of the opportunities in devastated countries
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  Speaker 2: around the world. Within those countries, obviously a full population
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  Speaker 2: of people, some subset are considered quote unquote eligible. Are
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  Speaker 2: we taking the best and brightest going back to your
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  Speaker 2: point about taking people out of a country that needs help?
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  Speaker 1: No, And here's the other part. Do they align with
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  Speaker 1: our values? Are they coming here to become Americans? Do
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  Speaker 1: they believe like we do? And when you look at
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  Speaker 1: this list of people, you know, from Honduras, Cameroon, Nicaragua,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Venezuela, Afghanistan, to answer that question is no,
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  Speaker 1: So why are we bringing them here?
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's let that quote just float out there.
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  Speaker 2: It's a rhetorical question. We'll find out what happens do
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  Speaker 2: you anticipate ICE just showing up and knocking on doors
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  Speaker 2: or how do you think this enforcement action might occur?
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  Speaker 2: Before we take a break here quick, Tom.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the line I love in the CBS story was
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  Speaker 1: the idea that you know, when they brought them here,
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  Speaker 1: they've flew planes in the middle of the night that
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  Speaker 1: just dumped them here. And I said, when this first
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  Speaker 1: God rule us report, we need to do the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: Bring a bunch of planes, load them up, or fly
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  Speaker 1: them out. And in the CBS story they said they
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  Speaker 1: might actually do that. I hope they do. Get them
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  Speaker 1: out as quick as we can.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and do it in the middle of the night
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  Speaker 2: while people are sleeping, so there won't be any local
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  Speaker 2: reporting on it. Perhaps, Tom, don't go away, because we're
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  Speaker 2: going to talk about the Ohio Data Center controversy.
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  Speaker 1: Here.
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  Speaker 2: See the talk station seven fifty two. If you give
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  Speaker 2: people Convention dot org. Check out Tom Zawastowski's weekly podcast.
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  Speaker 2: And I see that you posted the Mike row video
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  Speaker 2: on your website, the Future of AI infrastructure. That's a
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  Speaker 2: good one. And where are we on this whole controversy
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  Speaker 2: because and I keep reminding people that many, many, many
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  Speaker 2: people are being influenced by our foes over the Chinese
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  Speaker 2: Communist Party, who are dying for us to reject data
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  Speaker 2: centers and all things artificial intelligence because they wouldn't be
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  Speaker 2: the dominant country in it, and we could certainly let
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  Speaker 2: them do that by rejecting them. It's here, it's coming.
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  Speaker 2: Why don't we get the profit and the control over it.
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  Speaker 2: That's been my argument, But we're always met with these
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  Speaker 2: channel just people buy into the fear mongering that's being
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  Speaker 2: ginned up online, a lot of NIMBI lawsuits and suggestions
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  Speaker 2: that this is just gonna be one big, massive power
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  Speaker 2: consumption thing. Our bills are going to go through the
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  Speaker 2: roof tom Z. Where are we on this?
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  Speaker 1: Well, unfortunately, Brian, we are, you know, And it's just
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  Speaker 1: a huge controversy. And while you know, the the anti
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  Speaker 1: data center, you know, people, much of it funded by
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  Speaker 1: the Chinese Communist Party, are spending twenty billion dollars. I
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  Speaker 1: think the industry itself is doing a horrible job of
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  Speaker 1: talking about the benefits and the fact that they can
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  Speaker 1: build them safe. And I think our elected officials have
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  Speaker 1: done a horrible job. They've fumbled the ball and the
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  Speaker 1: Republicans are just you know, running around Columbus. They're like
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  Speaker 1: chickens their heads cut off because you know, they remember
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  Speaker 1: they had that big commission in June where you know,
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  Speaker 1: they had that committee to bring in all the tech
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  Speaker 1: people and all the people were against it. They were
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  Speaker 1: supposed to come up with a proposal within ten days. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that was a month and a half ago. No proposal
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  Speaker 1: was seen it by me. And now there's new things.
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  Speaker 1: I know, Stephanie Stock and uh, you know one of
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  Speaker 1: the other's houses or Jennifer Gross are coming up with
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  Speaker 1: a Data Center Accountability and Citizens Protection Act, which is
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  Speaker 1: filled with every you know possible, you know thing you
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  Speaker 1: could put in there, like making your data centers not
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  Speaker 1: only build their own power, but have to build their
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  Speaker 1: own water purification system in their data center. Okay, I
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  Speaker 1: mean it's just going to extremes that are just not
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  Speaker 1: required by the reality of the technical issues involved with
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  Speaker 1: data centers. They can be built safe, they can be
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  Speaker 1: built so they benefit your community. And the only reason
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  Speaker 1: they're being fought over is because of people not understanding
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  Speaker 1: the truth, and we're not doing a good job of
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  Speaker 1: helping them understand those truths.
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  Speaker 2: Well, a simple answer to the power problem and it's addressed.
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  Speaker 2: You just you just alluded to it a moment ago.
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  Speaker 2: Bring your own power with you. Well that's with a
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  Speaker 2: multi multi billion dollar company. That seems like a plausible reality.
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  Speaker 2: But the impediment seems to be that all the regulatory
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  Speaker 2: hurdles that anybody has to building new power for anything.
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  Speaker 2: If a municipality wanted to build a power plant, or
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  Speaker 2: a city wanted to build a power plant, or Duke
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  Speaker 2: Energy wanted to build a new power plan, they'd have
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  Speaker 2: the same regulatory hurdles and challenges. The problem seems to
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  Speaker 2: be that we, like most things, we from a regulatory standpoint,
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  Speaker 2: are our own worst enemy. If we greased the skids
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  Speaker 2: and made it easier to build and create power, then
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  Speaker 2: maybe it wouldn't be a challenge for a data center
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  Speaker 2: to accomplish that.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you're putting to the real you know, the
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  Speaker 1: real problem, which is the PUCO. The fact of the
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  Speaker 1: matter is Ohio's energy policy has been mishandled for the
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  Speaker 1: last twenty years, you know, specifically closing down coal plants
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  Speaker 1: that we sure could use right now, Okay, yeah, And
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  Speaker 1: they're the ones who haven't made the plants to bring
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  Speaker 1: online the power we're going to need for the future.
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  Speaker 1: And then and then they want to point the finger
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  Speaker 1: at the data center when the reality is it wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: matter if it's an auto plant or a school system. Right,
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  Speaker 1: they don't have the power because they didn't plan for it.
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  Speaker 1: And now they're trying to hide. And I keep pushing
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  Speaker 1: the legislature to say, bring the POC up to a
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  Speaker 1: hearing and let's get them to answer the hard questions,
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  Speaker 1: because guess what. Data centers don't set the rates for citizens' electricity,
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  Speaker 1: the POCO does. Data centers are just a customer, just
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  Speaker 1: like anybody else. And they go and say, I want
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  Speaker 1: to build this plant. There's how much electricity a'll buy,
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  Speaker 1: and it's up to PUCO to manage it. And what
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  Speaker 1: they've been doing is raising your rates when they should
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  Speaker 1: never have done that, and now they want to blame
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  Speaker 1: the data centers.
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  Speaker 2: You keep up the great work and thank you very
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  Speaker 2: much for tuning into the morning show man