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Cultivating Creativity | a conversation with life coach Jeremy Robinson · The Wholehearted Enneagram Podcast

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  SPEAKER_04: Hi friends, welcome back to the Simply Wholehearted Podcast.
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  SPEAKER_04: Ashley Pittman and I, Amy Wicks, are your hosts of the Simply Wholehearted Podcast.
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  SPEAKER_04: We believe we are all on a journey to live out the call to love the Lord with all of your heart, soul, mind, and strength.
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  SPEAKER_04: I don't know about you, but I think the first few months of 2018 has been full of incredible guests, and I promise that we are booked with so many more.
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  SPEAKER_04: Well, as you know, we've had the privilege of sharing inspirational stories of well-known folks and those who are just beginning on their journey.
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  SPEAKER_04: So today I'm truly thrilled to introduce you to Jeremy Robinson, who is well known in many circles, and now I get to share him with all of you.
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  SPEAKER_04: I'm actually used to calling him by his nickname, and you might hear me slip up a few times during your conversation.
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  SPEAKER_04: But several years ago, he moved from Balmy, Texas to cold Kansas City in January.
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  SPEAKER_04: Poor guy.
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  SPEAKER_04: I think he did freeze.
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  SPEAKER_04: Um, but he lived with us for a time as he went to mission school and took some time to find out what he really wanted to do.
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  SPEAKER_04: He is this sweet, tender, and young man, and each of my kids loved having him in our home.
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  SPEAKER_04: And to this day, he'll still stop by when he's in the neighborhood, and now we get to cheer him on in his newest adventure in love, as well as a life coach and creative living strategist.
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  SPEAKER_04: Clayworks Creative offers life coaching, business life coaching, personal development coaching, and Christian life coaching.
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  SPEAKER_04: That's a lot.
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  SPEAKER_04: But Jeremy is here to help point out the innate creativity in every client, and he helps clarify areas that you would like to improve and work toward to achieve your desired outcome.
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  SPEAKER_04: Now, as excited as I was to sit down and have this conversation, I think both Ashley and I were blown away by his depth of wisdom and knowledge and how our conversation truly touched us.
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  SPEAKER_04: I'm confident that everyone who listens will be moved to expand their thinking for the artistry of everyday life.
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  SPEAKER_04: Now, here's our conversation with life coach Jeremy Robinson.
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  SPEAKER_04: I mean, especially the mom in Incredibles.
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  SPEAKER_04: She's a little bit amazing.
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  SPEAKER_02: She is.
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  SPEAKER_05: And also an actual superhero.
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  SPEAKER_05: It's like in every way.
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  SPEAKER_04: That's really, really good.
• 4:53
  SPEAKER_04: So anyway, alright, we've got our team.
• 4:55
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, okay.
• 4:55
  SPEAKER_04: We're good, we're comfortable, we're dialed in.
• 4:57
  SPEAKER_04: What do you else what do you got going on the rest of the day?
• 4:59
  SPEAKER_03: Uh I have work.
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  SPEAKER_04: Work.
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  SPEAKER_04: And what do you do?
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  SPEAKER_03: I am a graphic designer and a certified life coach and creative living strategist.
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  SPEAKER_04: You are so many things.
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  SPEAKER_04: And I think it's important to note that our beautiful podcast graphic.
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  SPEAKER_04: J Rob did that.
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  SPEAKER_04: Sorry, Jeremy.
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  SPEAKER_04: Jeremy Robinson did the graphic.
• 5:23
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, I did.
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  SPEAKER_04: And what is it called in particular?
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  SPEAKER_04: I mean, it's like a social square, but it's more than that because it's kind of the brand.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yes, it is your it would be your logo.
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  SPEAKER_04: Logo.
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  SPEAKER_04: My logo.
• 5:32
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, that's an official term.
• 5:34
  SPEAKER_03: That's a big word.
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  SPEAKER_04: Can I just say that I now have another friend in my life who is a branding specialist and she is like trying, like painfully trying to educate me in all these things.
• 5:45
  SPEAKER_04: I'm getting educated.
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  SPEAKER_04: Good.
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  SPEAKER_03: You would be proud of me.
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  SPEAKER_03: He started off great, so you're doing awesome.
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  SPEAKER_05: Well, go back to what you said, you're a creative what?
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  SPEAKER_03: Creative living strategist.
• 5:54
  SPEAKER_05: That sounds amazing.
• 5:55
  SPEAKER_05: It does.
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  SPEAKER_05: It sounds really good.
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  SPEAKER_05: Is that an official?
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  SPEAKER_05: Did you like um create that?
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  SPEAKER_03: I did.
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  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_03: So um I for the past year, you know, went on this journey of just kind of reconnecting with who I was, and in the midst of all of that, realized that the thing that I was missing and enhancing who I was was this creative aspect.
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  SPEAKER_03: And so um I love awakening that in other people and just from personal experience, really finding that creativity is what really brought joy and happiness to my life.
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  SPEAKER_03: And so um, yeah, I kind of coined the term creative living strategist because I kind of want to help other people strategize on living creatively.
• 6:41
  SPEAKER_04: That's beautiful.
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  SPEAKER_04: Well, Jeremy, I need to go back a little bit.
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_04: He moved from Texas.
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  SPEAKER_04: What year was that?
• 6:48
  SPEAKER_03: 2014.
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  SPEAKER_04: Really?
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  SPEAKER_04: Was it?
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_04: Oh man, okay, so four years ago.
• 6:52
  SPEAKER_04: And he moved into our home.
• 6:55
  SPEAKER_04: We have a kind of a separate living quarter that works out really well for I have you students or other young people moving to the city.
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  SPEAKER_04: Today, in fact, we have someone new moving to be with Radiant Church, and she is coming to live with us.
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  SPEAKER_04: But anyway, Jeremy moved in with us, and you guys I haven't called Jeremy Jeremy for the last four years, so I'm gonna struggle a little bit and I might slip up, but you know, anyway, so Jeremy moved into our house, and he I was just like, we it was kind of fun because we kind of I think we FaceTime before you moved here, so we have to kind of you know, like have those conversations and you could see the room and all that.
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  SPEAKER_04: But anyway, um immediately my kids fell in love with you.
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  SPEAKER_04: They just thought you were pretty great, especially Miles.
• 7:39
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, you couldn't talk.
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_03: He could not be a good thing.
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_03: It is amazing he's grown so much, yes.
• 7:45
  SPEAKER_04: And he will not stop talking now.
• 7:48
  SPEAKER_04: He's Mr.
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  SPEAKER_04: China Kathy, but so I I just I think about that time, and so you move into our house, and I loved getting to know your story and who you were.
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  SPEAKER_04: But man, like I had not met um someone in a long time who was just so like but at the time, I mean I know you feel like you've gone through this, you know, some of this journey fairly recently, but you were really in touch with your creative side and you want to explore you know dancing and you know, like what's theater, what's you know, yoga.
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  SPEAKER_04: We were you know the conversations we had.
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  SPEAKER_04: I mean, besides you being an artist, truly, you know, graphic artist, there was you know so much more to that expression.
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  SPEAKER_04: I just I don't know, I was always amazed by how free you were in that and comfortable and confident.
• 8:35
  SPEAKER_04: And so it just comes through your personality and all that.
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_04: So anyway, I just kind of wanted to share that in getting to, you know.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_04: So I mean, it was not even a year ago when you came and just popped in because you do that.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_03: I do every once in a while.
• 8:49
  SPEAKER_03: I'll pop in.
• 8:50
  SPEAKER_04: You just drive by and see if we're home and then we were home, and so you came and just chatted and gave me an update on your life and what was going on, and so you shared this idea of coaching.
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_04: And now, had you I mean, have you ever been coached before?
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  SPEAKER_04: What like made you think that that was it?
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  SPEAKER_03: So the apparently life coaching is a deal nowadays, yes, it is, which I had no idea.
• 9:18
  SPEAKER_03: Which I had no idea, but um just over the years I've always realized that random people or people that I knew, the gist of our conversation has always revolved around them exploring more of who they were, their identity, and the cores of those things were their passions and their dreams.
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  SPEAKER_03: My response was always, well, why aren't you doing that?
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  SPEAKER_03: What can we do to get you doing that?
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_03: Right, right.
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  SPEAKER_03: What are some small steps you can take to do that?
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_04: I thought that was just being a Bossy Big sister.
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_04: Maybe you're just a natural life coach.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, it may be.
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  SPEAKER_03: And so it's it was always this thing that I always had revolving in my heart.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_03: I want to awaken the dreams in other people and make them realize that they are attainable, it's practical and you can do it.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_03: Um and so, and that was all the way back into my college years, you know, and so more than eight years ago, I've always had this idea.
• 10:14
  SPEAKER_03: And it wasn't until recently, again, connecting with this creative journey that I went on the past two years of how, oh my gosh, I've I like I stumbled across something, I was like, life coaching?
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  SPEAKER_03: Is that what that is?
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_03: And so it put a definition to the things that I had in my heart.
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_04: Um, and of course, life coaching, it looks really different, but um well, sure, because there's like health coaches and business coaches, financial coaches.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, and and life coaching in and of itself is a very creative process, and so um I said I want to do that, but I want to focus on our identity, I want to focus on our values and our morals and how what we produce starts at the core of who we are.
• 11:00
  SPEAKER_03: And so I took on this life coaching, and again, um it just put a definition to what it was that I was wanting to do and the title to it, and so it's been very fulfilling ever since.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_04: That's awesome.
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  SPEAKER_04: So, what does that look like for you?
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  SPEAKER_04: I mean, we're talking to the person like you, you know, you have your nine to five job, you're just doing your thing.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_04: Um, I mean, does this look like you're gonna encourage people to career change, or is it something outside of that even?
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_03: Um, well, as a as a life coach, I personally do five different areas.
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  SPEAKER_03: I do relationships, I do basic life coaching, which is identity, who you are.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I do Christian life coaching, I do personal development, and then I do business life balance.
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_03: So not not career, but if you're an entrepreneur or someone trying to make a switch, then I help you figure out how to do your life and do business at the same time.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_03: And that's huge.
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, and to create those boundaries.
• 11:57
  SPEAKER_03: And so boundaries.
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, which is very, very important.
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  SPEAKER_05: They're so important.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, yeah, and so and I'm learning that myself as I'm doing this, but again, I feel like I I'm young, but I feel like I have a lot of experience and I know what I'm talking about because it's things that I've implemented and I've tried.
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_03: And there's no way I would consider becoming a life coach if I haven't had the knowledge to back it up.
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
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  SPEAKER_04: And so Well, and I've seen you personally, you know, live out a lot of this, and that's where I think I think I was blown away by you and you being just in touch with that creative side and confident again, going back to that because just you know, saw that and you're then ability.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, we've had tons of conversation going way back about everyone's a creative.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_04: You know, and you recommended some books, and we've and we've just had I mean we'll have some of that conversation because I think it's really something I want to highlight, but um that even in spite of your age, and you're you're not like fresh out of college, no, but um in spite of your age you had some of that knowledge base and it's a lot of things.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, thank you.
• 12:59
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you definitely yeah, you you live it and you preach it, which is important.
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_04: Thank you.
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_04: So, okay, so a person goes, okay, maybe I need a life coach, you know, creative, you know, something like that resonates with me.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_04: Um take us through kind of the process that you might, you know, when you meet with someone and what what does that look like?
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_03: Because I think you offer a free I do free one hour consultation, and so let me just start off by saying coaching isn't for everyone.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_04: Um how do you know if you don't need a coach?
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_03: Um, well, that's between you and the coach.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_03: And so, you know, it'll again, that's why I offer the free one hour.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_03: So the free one hour um is a time for us to actually just interview one another.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_03: We talk, we see if it'll be a good fit.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_03: And again, there are many live coaches that do many things.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_04: So maybe they do need a coach, but you weren't the one to do it.
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, I get it.
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and so the crux of it all is it just revolves around what you need, what what are the things that you're trying to go for, you know, and so it just looks really different.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, okay.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_04: So you kind of have a set of questions and get a feel for one another, and if you like it, and see where they are now and where they want to go, can you help it?
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_03: And and so the now I'm calling a creative living strategist, and so but I just want to clarify that creative living isn't just art, dance, all of those things.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_03: It's yeah, let's talk about that.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_03: It's it's a way of life.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and you guys can relate since you're mothers, but um you wake up every day and you do things, and innately it might be instincts, it might be you know, fight or flight, um, I have to do this to provide for my kids, I have to cook, I have to clean, I have to do all of those things.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_03: But if you'd shift your perspective, then you'd realize that it took you an amazing amount of ingenuity, imagination, strategy, creativity, multitasking to make your whole day function.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yes, that is that is creativity at its finest.
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  SPEAKER_03: And so we've been created by God, okay?
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_03: And so we're images and we're stewards of the creativity that He's already put out there.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_03: So we just tend to it and we just kind of take care of it.
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  SPEAKER_03: And so that's what I'm saying creative living is.
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  SPEAKER_03: And then in the midst of all of that to enhance your day, not only by focusing out, but focusing in, cultivating that as a mother, cultivating the extra hour before, that extra hour after, that random 15 or 30 minutes in between where your kids are taking it out, whatever you created to keep them distracted, to to focus on you, yeah, you know, to read that book, to write that blog, to you know, focus on whatever cyber projects you have going.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_03: That is creative living.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_03: So it's not this, you know, idea of artistic y kind of thing.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_03: It's actually very practical, you know.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_03: And creative living process involves what you do, it involves your emotions, it involves your heart, it involves your physical well-being, your mental well-being, your taking care of those things that are gonna help get the creative juices flowing.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_05: So it sounds like it's kind of two, well, it's more than two things.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_05: But I mean, part of it is just the creativity it takes to get through your day, like how to make life work and what's gonna bring you joy also in the middle of making life work.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_05: Now, how can I also have joy?
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, because usually we we think that it's one or the other, but you actually can merge your I wrote a blog about this last week, but you can merge your obligations with your passions, and it's about stewardship and not about escaping responsibility at all, but stewarding what you have in a way that sets you up for your ultimate success and life enjoyment and well-being.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_04: Can chuck the mic.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, like, come on, that right there, if you framed, I mean, the millions of mothers out there, if they framed motherhood that way, because it is a mundane chore that we often try to escape from and know ourselves from.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, this is what I've been teaching um in the last few weeks.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_05: Where do you go in those downtime?
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_05: Is it social media that's draining you, or is there something that brings you joy?
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_04: And can you find in the process looking in their little eyeballs and looking them eye to eye and having those connection, you know, meaningful moments?
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_04: How can you make it meaningful for you and for them simultaneously?
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_04: And that does take creativity.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, it does.
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_04: And it takes understanding yourself.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, knowing what it is.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_04: Because what you do isn't gonna look the same as you know next turning around your business.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_05: And that's freedom.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_05: To really get that is freedom, to not go, why can't I do it like her?
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_05: Because I'm not like you at all.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_05: Like Amy is juggling, I don't know how many things, yeah, and I would crush under that.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_05: And I'm thinking, why can't I do it like she does?
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_05: Because that's not me.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_05: So who am I and what does my creativity look like with my kids?
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_03: So how do you function?
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_03: Which again, going back to what I mentioned earlier about that identity piece, when we try to go for results, we end up getting burnt out, we get discouraged, you know, we just want to quit.
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_03: But when the core of what you're producing is out of your identity and who you are, it changes everything.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_03: You know, it makes what you have enough.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_03: And it helps you increase your capacity of what you have as being enough.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_05: My new mantra and what I'm gonna I'm gonna put in my house for my kids and for me is just that whole thing.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_05: I've heard several people say it lately.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_05: It's good enough, is good enough.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_05: At some point, it's good enough, and that's good enough.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, you know, and you can stop, leave it.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, leave it.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I mean, I have to say that to myself, and at the same time, you say, you know, like why can't I do?
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_04: I would never, I would never have an expectation for other people to do what I do.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_04: Like I just, I mean, I think that's the thing is that we I just so solidly know that I'm in my lane and that's good, and there is no expectation for anyone else to run in my lane similarly.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_04: And I think that's the that's the hope, especially as I share with moms and teacher with moms.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_04: And that's something I'm very aware of and going, listen, this is how I do it.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_04: But it it doesn't, it's not gonna look the same in your house.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_04: Because and then we've talked about, I mean, the whole Anneagram coaching.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_04: Because we just got done a couple weeks of um back in um end of January, beginning of February, but we did two podcasts with the Anneagram coach.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_04: And I just keep thinking, uh I'd really love to become an Anneagram coach for moms.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_04: Because I think when we understand you know, why we do what we do and how that could influence our mothering and to be okay with it and not be ashamed of it.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_04: Because for so long I was ashamed of my freeness and how it bent me towards motherhood.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_04: And now I go, oh, wait a minute, no, that's a gift, and it can be a gift to my kids if it's healthy.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_04: And then in turn be able to figure out where your kids are so you can help them can you know connect to them relationally, help them to connect with each other.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_04: So anyway, I don't know.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_04: Like, you know, this is just something we've been talking about and thinking about.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_03: Just being released from the pressure of having to perform in your life, yes, and uh ending your day with realizing how much you accomplished instead of what you didn't do.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah, and if I could I tell that, I say that from the stage is exactly how I've ended my talks these last few weeks because that's what I that's what I know.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_04: As a task-driven three, I know that I need to look back and go, how much do I love?
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, because that's what counts and that's what's important.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_04: So, okay, so you know, people listening, okay, that's a great idea.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_04: How do I do this?
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_04: How do I get to that point?
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_04: How do I love it?
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_04: How do I um you know, how do I work this, you know, and what's this creativity thing, and how is it that we're all creative?
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_04: I don't paint, I don't sing, I don't draw.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_04: You know, talk a bit a little bit about that.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so um a lot of like I said, a lot of people equate creativity to painting, dancing, drawing, anything like that.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_03: But what I want to do is shift that perspective and realize that creativity is anything that you produce in general.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, it takes an amazing amount of creativity nowadays to make our world go round.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, okay, construction workers, you know, newspapers, you know, moms, um, grocery workers, all those things, what you're producing, what you're making with your hands, that is creative.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, and we have that initial act of creativity, you know, when God spoke everything into being.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_03: And then, like I mentioned earlier, now we are stewards of that creativity.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_03: And so it's not about you looking to that freak of nature, you know, this you know artistic.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_03: That's one of my favorite phrases.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_03: Amazing, whatever, you know, it's not about looking to that guy that has this amazing off the charts, talented and gifted, you know, get that painting.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_03: That's not you, okay.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_03: He's an artist, okay, but as a creative, you bring it back home.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_03: And again, like we mentioned, do you realize that what you have is enough?
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_03: And so you begin to formulate your world around what it's innate to you, around what comes natural, okay.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_03: And again, the identity piece you have.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_03: To know yourself, you have to know what you have to bring to the table in order to be able to steward and let those things grow.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_03: So you sit down and you think, okay, I'm good at these five things.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_03: You take those five things, you create goals, and you realize how you can make those five things grow, how you can flourish those five things, how you construct your life to allow those five things to actually be implemented in your day-to-day.
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_03: You know, and so it starts really small and then you build your capacity, then it becomes bigger, it becomes extravagant, you know, you dream bigger, but it starts with small steps.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's good.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_04: So it's like any habit, or even if you're gonna relate it to the human body, and as we exercise, you know, you start off small, eventually you add this thing, or as you do workouts, each time you do the same thing, yeah.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_04: You know, it becomes easier in a way.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_04: Because you or you can increase the weight, or you can increase the reps because you know you're something.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_03: And and you have to prioritize, okay?
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_03: We're human beings, so we of course can't do everything all the time.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_03: So what's so what's most important to you?
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_03: What's making your heart come alive in this season, this week, you know, and prioritize it, you know?
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_03: What's the main thing for you?
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_03: And be okay with letting everything else take second place, third place, fourth place, you know.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_03: But don't, you know, try to feel the pressure that you you're only successful if you do it all.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, you have to, you know, realize that shooting for the stars, the universe is at your fingertips, it's in your backyard, it's in your kitchen, it's in your living room, it's in your sphere of influence, wherever that is, it's really attainable.
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_03: You have the building blocks to create the life that you've always wanted.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_03: And it's not far out there, it's really close.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, speak to the fact that I mean, I guess, do you think that everything that we do do and needs to be a priority can be enjoyable?
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_04: Or is there some times where you just gotta do it because it needs to be a priority, even if it's not what makes you come alive?
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_04: Or do you think everything we do could eventually have that feeling along with it?
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's a great question.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_03: And I think it's both and my initial response in my gut is if you are cultivating who you are outside of your obligations, your obligations come easier.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_03: Amen.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_03: So um it's like I say, you can't escape them.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_03: You have to do your responsibilities.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_03: But a lot of times we get mixed up is because those responsibilities have become the main thing when they aren't the main thing.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_03: Who you are and your well-being is the main thing, okay?
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_03: Self-care unto being able to be excellent.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_03: And so you have to always take a step back.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_03: A lot of times, where what I produce gives me value or our work gives me value, the people I'm around gives me value.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_03: And those things will always leave you empty, okay?
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_03: But you step back and you find value at the core of who you are, and then you step into that position of obligation and it begins to grow and flourish.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_03: It becomes something you can do, you can do it with excellence.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_03: The enjoyment might or might not be there, but it comes, it becomes way more bearable because you know that those things aren't an adding identity to who you are.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_03: It's already started before you showed up, you know?
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, speak to, and I've got a lot of thoughts with us.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_04: Um, and we're really just like, I'm thinking through these as we're sitting and talking.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_04: I think I've always struggled with growing up as a Christian.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_04: Of course, being a Christ's follower, I want to imitate Christ.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_04: His life is one of sacrifice where he repeatedly lay down, lays down you know, himself, obviously ultimately to death.
• 25:54
  SPEAKER_04: Um but I think in the Christian culture in general, we sometimes make living like Christ and how that influences our priorities or martyrdom or I mean like in the general sense, I don't think you know, especially women tend can understand what I'm saying, is like, oh but I just have to do this, and so it's fine, I'll take care of it, I'll do it at the expense of ourselves.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_04: How I mean, how do we figure out that balance?
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_04: Because I feel like that is where I constantly wrestle, like, yeah, I know self-care is first, but others before self.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, God first though.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, yeah, and so yeah, I'm gonna like answer that and then we can start.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_03: Now, this is a great question, and it might get me in trouble.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm very scandalous when it comes to these things, but at the end of the day, Jeremy Robinson is not like Jesus.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_03: And I have a lot of growing to do.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, and I've actually wrote another blog on this.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_04: So yeah, unfortunately, we won't arrive to get that.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_03: So the the concept is, okay, if I can simplify it, is what you're saying yes to.
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_03: Okay?
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_03: Now if you're saying yes to everything, yeah, something's gonna suffer.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_04: Right, right.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_03: You can't do everything with excellence.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_03: So why not recognize what you have capacity to say yes to with excellence and be okay with saying no to everything else?
• 27:25
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_03: Okay?
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_03: And letting that no cultivate a deeper longing and a deeper capacity for you to give a bigger yes the next time.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, and so, and that's just my opinion because you can say yes to everything, but how do you feel in that yes?
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_03: You do it, you do yes begrudgingly, you got bitterness, you're angry, you're mad.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_03: Now, do you think being a Christian that that's healthy?
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, and so why not be able to say yes and do it with full confidence?
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, clean heart, clean mind, pure motives, yeah, instead of doing it out of obligation.
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_04: And with Christ-likeness.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_03: Because that's not love.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_03: But what is love is I'm doing this and I'm doing it out of joy.
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_03: It is a sacrifice, but my sacrifice is filled with contentment, and I I love you so much that I'm gonna do this instead of I have to.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_03: So, sure.
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, right.
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_03: You know, but how about we let our no increase our capacity so that we can give a greater yes, a bigger yes, a bigger yes next time, a bigger yes next time, okay?
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_03: And then and that yes, that's a sacrifice.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_03: The sacrifice grows, it increases, but you can only steward what you have.
• 28:36
  SPEAKER_03: You can only steward your capacity, but trying to operate outside of that capacity, is it can be unhealthy for you sometimes.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_04: I have lately really um taken joy in reading the gospels and watching when Jesus steals away.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, he does it all the time, exactly.
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_04: Goes alone, even tries to, you know, get away from his disciples because he just, you know.
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_04: So just as a mom, uh, you know, just framing that, like, oh, oh yeah, well, if Jesus did it, yeah, I can do it.
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_04: Boundaries again, boundaries, which are really hard.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_04: So is that is that probably one of the biggest pieces of being a life coach?
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_04: Is that you you can be an objective boundary setter for the the person you're working with?
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_03: So um the way the life coaching is formulated, you know, I I form a partnership with the client.
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_03: I help the client strategize on things that they want to implement.
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_03: So if boundaries is one of those things that the client wants to work on, then I will help them formulate ideas, but it's all their ideas.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_03: And that's why a coaching process is so powerful.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_03: Because I'm prompting you to allow yourself to create the idea.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_03: I'm prompting you to allow yourself to create the boundary.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_03: And when it's your idea, you're all you're excited about it more than it is if it was my idea.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, right, yeah.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, so I want to help you find your flow, okay, and and formulate the boundaries that are going to be most helpful for you.
• 30:05
  SPEAKER_04: That's good.
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, Ashley.
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_04: I feel like so.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_04: We've talked about this lately, and so I'm gonna kind of turn over to you in a way.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_04: Because we've joked about being creatively constipated.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_05: Constipated.
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_05: That's my word.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_05: I'm creatively constipated.
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_05: That's what I have this thing.
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_05: I say crap.
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_05: Crap is a southern word, I think.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_05: It is.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_05: It's very, I'm Alabama Southern and I say crap a lot.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_05: So there's like a theme.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_05: So I'm creatively constipated.
• 30:35
  SPEAKER_04: There is a question in that because I think, okay, you say that.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_04: And I I mean like, man, Jay Rap.
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_04: Sorry, Jeremy is the person to ask.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_04: I thought he was gonna slow up the state.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_04: So, you know, I I'm just sitting here thinking, creatively constipated.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_05: Well, sounds like I know, so for me, it looks like I'm a creative of probably the artistic variety, okay, except I can't do it.
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_05: It's like I have this fear, I think it's just a feel of fear of failure.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_05: And so I have these desires, but then I go, it's like I have paint and I have a canvas, and then I can get the brush from my hand and go, you know, and so there's like so many things in my hand.
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_05: I want to, but it's like I can't.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you know, there's something in me that's like, and if I can't do it right, then it's hard to start.
• 31:25
  SPEAKER_05: And so I yeah, I'm a very frustrated creative because I've I I um feel like I encounter God when I do things with my hands.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_05: I used to like to um like my ultimate dream, if I could really dream, I would have a workshop with all kinds of saws and tools and power tools, and I would be trying to build furniture and like you know, but um and I feel God when I do that.
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_05: Anything, any kind of like that with my hands, it's just everything else goes away, and I feel like I can just, you know, there's all the chatter is gone.
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_05: And um, so that's where I thrive.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_05: It's just now trying to get back to it.
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_05: I have this huge, it's like yeah, something the wall.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I I love that you said when you do that, when you do your creative thing, you connect with the Lord because again, everything that we do, all of our striving and our creativity, it's supposed to help us encounter Him again.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 32:16
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and now the question remains, okay, as a creative, who put the standard on what's good and what's not good?
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_03: I know, I know.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_03: And so you get ready to do that thing and the fear comes in.
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_03: The this isn't good enough.
• 32:33
  SPEAKER_03: I've seen it done this way, so I must not be doing it right.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, okay, when you were a child and you were the happiest, you never colored inside the lines.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_03: Never.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_04: Because you weren't aware.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_03: You weren't aware.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_03: You you would put green or purple, you know, on your fox.
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_03: No fox is green or purple.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_03: Never seen it before.
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_03: You know, you had an orange apple, you know, and and that's the kind of thing that we have to get back to.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_03: You know, there are so many pressures and societal norms that we think we've had to, you know, be bent into, and they're all false.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_03: They're not real and they're not true.
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_03: And so when it comes to being creatively constipated, okay.
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_03: You have to realize that it is.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_03: That's like I I actually love that.
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_03: And so it's actually about you know realizing that you you don't have to be better than what you produced last time.
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_03: There's no pressure, there's no pressure at all.
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_03: You know, you don't have to try to top yourself.
• 33:39
  SPEAKER_03: All you have to do, especially if if it's something that's for you, then it doesn't matter what anybody else's think.
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it doesn't matter what anyone else, how anyone else views what you just created because you created that for you.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, that's your secret space, that's your sacred space.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_03: It's your creative space.
• 33:57
  SPEAKER_03: And in that creative space, everything you do is correct, everything you do is right, everything has the perfect technique because it's yours.
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_04: It's good.
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_04: It's good.
• 34:07
  SPEAKER_04: It's beautiful.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_04: It's good.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_04: It's so good.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, I think about like I I wish I was a painter drawer.
• 34:15
  SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna take my kids to a watercolor class with them on Friday night.
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_04: That'll be my first attempt.
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, I don't know about that.
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_04: But um, but writing, I mean, like, I get so stuck and I I love it when I write, I feel that whole like, you know, I was created to do this and in partnership with the Holy Spirit, unlike anything else.
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but I get so fearful that I I put it off because I'm afraid, like, you know, I'm not a grammar nerd and I mess it up.
• 34:45
  SPEAKER_04: We've Ashley is a grammar nerd, so we talk about this a lot, but I mean, yeah, if we just took it back, where it's between us and the creator and that's it.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_03: That's it.
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_03: And I I have so much fear all the time.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_03: I know it seems like I've got it all figured out, but I do it afraid.
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_03: And because I've practiced it, I'm not afraid of falling on my face.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_03: I'm not afraid of looking stupid.
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_03: Because it wasn't about you in the first place.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_03: And um just on this creative journey, you know, there's so much freedom in it.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_03: It's healthy, it's good, it's therapeutic, you know, for us to just come back to where it's just me and him, audience of one.
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_03: It doesn't matter what anyone else thinks.
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_04: So what does it look like for you personally right now?
• 35:32
  SPEAKER_04: What's your I mean, for you is life coaching?
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_04: Is that how you do part of that right now?
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, for sure.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and just you know, you said, you know, the writing thing.
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_03: Again, I I hate writing.
• 35:46
  SPEAKER_03: I feel like I'm not a good writer, but I do it afraid.
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_04: And you actually really are a great writer.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you so much.
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_04: I'm like, oh, he can write too.
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_04: What can't he do?
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_03: I know.
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_03: But all of these things are are things that I've had to grow in.
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, I tip a s I take a leap of faith, I step out.
• 36:05
  SPEAKER_03: Um, you know, I have people speaking into my life, you know.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_03: I I learn, I position myself to to consistently be a student of life.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_03: And if writing's one of those things, then I'm like, okay, who can I learn from?
• 36:21
  SPEAKER_03: I need to get an editor.
• 36:23
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 36:23
  SPEAKER_03: I need someone to tell me you did this wrong, you did this great.
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_03: And so as over these past couple of months, when I've started blogging, that's been my process.
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_03: And the next blog I put out has less, you know, wrong things with it, you know, and and it gets better, the tone gets more consistent, the point I'm getting across gets more clear.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but all that comes when I just do it, you know, and so you mentioned it earlier, but I have I have main job, I have side job, I got a contracting job, you know, and so I'm doing a lot of things, but hustling all the way.
• 36:59
  SPEAKER_03: And um, and so but I I would love for my life coaching to become the main thing because this right now is is it's bringing me alive, you know, and I love helping people get those light bulbs going off in their mind, you know, and and so I'm juggling life coaching, I'm juggling my primary nine to five, you know.
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but when you're doing what you're created to do, it all becomes enjoyable.
• 37:25
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_03: You of course have to learn to prioritize and juggle, but it's fun and it's exciting.
• 37:30
  SPEAKER_03: And um like I said, I'm you know, what, 27, and this age, my parents love them so much.
• 37:40
  SPEAKER_03: They had three kids and we were living day to day, paycheck to paycheck.
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_03: And the gifts of me taking back my creativity and to be able to wake up every day and to live out of a place of enjoyment and not out of survival has been such a gift.
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_03: And I, you know, count that to the fact that I've had my heart open and my mind open, and I've realized I'm not giving into the status quo.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna do it my way, okay?
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna let the Lord lead me.
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_03: And I want to create the life that I feel like I was created to live.
• 38:13
  SPEAKER_03: You know, and you know, I have a girlfriend and I'm thinking about becoming a husband and becoming a father, and what kind of example do I want to set for my kids?
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_03: How do I want to lead my wife?
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_03: You know, and I think that creativity is gonna become an important aspect of that because I want her to thrive.
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_03: I want to give her a house, I want her and turn it into a home.
• 38:33
  SPEAKER_03: You know, I want her to continually feel valued and that she's giving and and giving.
• 38:39
  SPEAKER_03: I want to sew into her so that she can burst things into the household and into her surroundings, you know.
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_03: And so creativity, it's it's the number one commodity right now in the seven spheres of influence.
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_03: It's c getting high on the list of need things in the marketplace.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_03: But when you ask people, they feel like they're not operating at their fullest potential.
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_03: You know, and so why is this creativity so important?
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_03: You know, and so you have to begin to ask yourself, okay, maybe it does have to do with a little bit more than just art.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_03: You know.
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_04: Maybe it's actually the source of all things.
• 39:14
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 39:14
  SPEAKER_04: Which is really huge.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_04: And and when we go back to our creator and be being made in his image, man, I mean, creator, it is his name.
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_04: He's the most creative being out there.
• 39:25
  SPEAKER_04: Everything that was ever thought of comes from his imagination.
• 39:29
  SPEAKER_04: And everything yet to come was already, you know, in his mind.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_04: You know, I know.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_05: It just hits me with the thing we we totally miss the creativity part.
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_05: We think we're made in his image, so we have to be just like him, which means we have to follow all the rules.
• 39:43
  SPEAKER_05: So that's what being like him means.
• 39:45
  SPEAKER_05: Follow all the rules, do it right.
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_05: Which then brings in the shoulds.
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, you should do this, you should, you should, you should, you, should you.
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_05: And we forget that part of being probably the biggest part might be that he's a creator and we're supposed to create.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_05: That just hit me.
• 39:59
  SPEAKER_05: It's like, oh, that got totally twisted.
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we're we're twisted.
• 40:02
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_03: He initiated that first act of creativity.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_03: And then it it echoes through every single one of us.
• 40:09
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 40:09
  SPEAKER_03: It looks different, it feels different, it expresses different, it flows different, but we do it whether we realize it or not.
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_04: And who wants to steal that?
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, when we start, I mean, when we start talking about that, then we're like, oh wait, we have an enemy that is hot after our creativity, and he's gonna do everything in it to stifle us, constipate us.
• 40:31
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 40:31
  SPEAKER_04: And then we'll get us stuck in the mundane with the grind.
• 40:35
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 40:35
  SPEAKER_05: Where we're not I'm sorry, we could just go and just some really we could find metaphors, but I'm trying not to.
• 40:41
  SPEAKER_05: I'm trying not to do it.
• 40:44
  SPEAKER_04: Uh because I mean I mean, like you said, because I'm even looking back, I'm like, oh yeah, when I started really loving motherhood.
• 40:55
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, I always I had wanted to be a mom.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, I uh actually I backed that up.
• 41:00
  SPEAKER_04: I've for a long time said I never wanted to be a mom.
• 41:02
  SPEAKER_04: And then the Lord blessed me and I loved it and fell in love with them, but it's a heavy burden.
• 41:07
  SPEAKER_04: And part of what made it such a heavy thing is that there was nothing that I was doing that made me feel creative because I didn't even have time to do the kind of cooking that I wanted to do.
• 41:18
  SPEAKER_04: And that at least that was the part that I knew I loved.
• 41:20
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_04: So and I I can I can see that point in time where I finally started the trajectory in my motherhood, and life kind of felt like it went upward, was when the Lord brought some other things to my hands, and I felt like, oh yeah, this I love this.
• 41:34
  SPEAKER_04: This is bringing meaning and you know, life to my life.
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_03: And yeah, you have to align yourself with the truth and um the reawakening of who you are and that creative process, it all goes back to when you're a kid or you know, and you you someone told you you can't do that.
• 41:55
  SPEAKER_03: That's not right, that's not good enough.
• 41:57
  SPEAKER_03: Or just even recently in the past couple of years, when you've stepped out and you got that no, that door got closed in your face.
• 42:05
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, what you had still wasn't good enough.
• 42:07
  SPEAKER_03: And those things stifle our creative living.
• 42:10
  SPEAKER_03: And so what we have to do is we have to recognize it, we have to uproot it, have to replant something that's good, yeah, gotta water it, and then we have to implement something that's gonna allow that to grow and be cultivated.
• 42:23
  SPEAKER_03: And so, and that that's life, you know, that's with our emotions, you know, how we steward them, that's with our time, how we steward that, that's with our thoughts towards other people, how we steward that, you know, all of it is creative living.
• 42:36
  SPEAKER_03: And if one of those things is blocked, then our creative living is gonna be stifled.
• 42:41
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
• 42:41
  SPEAKER_04: That's wow, that's huge.
• 42:43
  SPEAKER_04: Because I think uprooting it, a lot of it too is the no's that we get in life.
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, there might be very well that people said things that were wrong, but sometimes we just frame every no as like it wasn't good enough instead of it's just not the right time.
• 42:58
  SPEAKER_03: It was an opportunity to learn.
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, you know, you grow from that no.
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, exactly.
• 43:03
  SPEAKER_04: Not that it was, you know, you should hide in shame.
• 43:06
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 43:06
  SPEAKER_04: We just associate no and shame way too, you know, similarly than we need to for sure.
• 43:11
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 43:12
  SPEAKER_03: And I think that's again what has formed me a lot, you know, why I am the way that I am, because I've gotten a lot of no's in my life.
• 43:19
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and I've gotten tired of letting those no's dictate who I am.
• 43:24
  SPEAKER_03: I just started responding differently.
• 43:25
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_04: You know, and 'cause yeah, they're still gonna happen, we're still gonna get them, and still not gonna be good enough, quote unquote.
• 43:32
  SPEAKER_03: And so I try to figure out if there's any validity to it.
• 43:35
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, where can I learn?
• 43:36
  SPEAKER_03: Where can I grow?
• 43:37
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know, and I take that and I'm grateful for that.
• 43:40
  SPEAKER_03: But if it's not true, then I'm like, okay, I'm gonna still do it.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_03: You know.
• 43:45
  SPEAKER_04: Well, actually that's something that I've always appreciated about you just getting to know you where you have kind of had that attitude where you're like, Well, okay, well, didn't work out, and you know, kind of you brush yourself off well and just keep going and you don't let it devastate you or Like that's it, I'm done.
• 44:01
  SPEAKER_03: Forget this.
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_03: And and what I call it is you have to follow the rabbit trails until you happen upon something.
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 44:08
  SPEAKER_03: And so you just try things, you dabble, you you know, you figure it out, and then you find it.
• 44:13
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 44:13
  SPEAKER_03: And I think I'm at that place where I found it.
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_03: Life coaching.
• 44:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 44:17
  SPEAKER_03: Creative living strategist.
• 44:19
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 44:19
  SPEAKER_03: Awaken it, these dreams and passions in other people.
• 44:22
  SPEAKER_03: And you know, I'm hoping that this works out, but at the end of the day, if it doesn't, I tried.
• 44:28
  SPEAKER_03: Well and I've impacted people.
• 44:30
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, exactly.
• 44:31
  SPEAKER_04: So yeah.
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_04: I think that's the thing, is that I mean, yeah, maybe it's not the next 60 years or you know, whatever, but it is purposeful for the time.
• 44:41
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, right.
• 44:41
  SPEAKER_04: And just because too, and this has been my big thing, is just because a season ends doesn't mean that that was bad or not.
• 44:47
  SPEAKER_04: And so often I framed it was just a season ending, and it was just time to move on to the next thing.
• 44:53
  SPEAKER_04: And I always looked at it as a failure.
• 44:55
  SPEAKER_04: I didn't you know, and it was silly because I finished well, I did it well, I did it great, but it was just done, and it was just time to move on instead of you know, framing it as this terrible thing.
• 45:05
  SPEAKER_03: So um but we're all on the journey, we're all travelers on the same journey.
• 45:11
  SPEAKER_03: Trying to figure it out, you know, you teach some, you learn from some.
• 45:14
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, and so exactly.
• 45:16
  SPEAKER_04: It's awesome.
• 45:17
  SPEAKER_04: I'm excited to see everything that is gonna unfold for you.
• 45:22
  SPEAKER_04: And I know that I mean already I I really know that this conversation is having impact on people and giving them, you know, planting some seeds food for thought, and you know, maybe framing creativity differently, motherhood differently.
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, um, I know that's a you know personal passion of mine.
• 45:39
  SPEAKER_04: Um, so I know in the show notes we'll put kind of like all the ways to find you and all of that, but it's ClayWorks Creative.
• 45:49
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 45:49
  SPEAKER_04: And you're on Instagram.
• 45:51
  SPEAKER_03: I am Clayworks.creative.
• 45:53
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, and your website CWC Life Coaching.
• 45:57
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, okay.
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_04: And there they can find you have packages, right?
• 46:01
  SPEAKER_03: I do things.
• 46:02
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, I have individual sessions and then I give packages.
• 46:06
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 46:06
  SPEAKER_03: You'll get more value out of your book with the packages.
• 46:09
  SPEAKER_03: Sure.
• 46:09
  SPEAKER_03: The sessions will cost the individual sessions will cost more.
• 46:12
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 46:12
  SPEAKER_04: And all of that you can do after kind of that initial make sure we're a good fit.
• 46:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, the introductory consultation.
• 46:18
  SPEAKER_04: Can I help you?
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 46:22
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 46:23
  SPEAKER_04: So would you ever like just shake your head and be like, yeah, no, I can't help you?
• 46:26
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, I I I've these past two weeks I've had at least, you know, five consultations, and two of those have been a I don't have what you need.
• 46:35
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 46:36
  SPEAKER_03: That's so you know that though.
• 46:38
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it is.
• 46:38
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, someone else is a better fit to to move you along on your journey.
• 46:42
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, for sure.
• 46:42
  SPEAKER_03: And so, and and I just want that to be a the fact that I'm not trying to make money off of people.
• 46:47
  SPEAKER_03: Like I genuinely enjoy what I do.
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, I believe in my message, and I want to replicate it.
• 46:52
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, I want people to be inspired, and like I mentioned at the start, it's not for everyone.
• 46:57
  SPEAKER_03: And what I have isn't for everyone.
• 46:59
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so yeah, that's awesome.
• 47:01
  SPEAKER_04: Well, Jeremy, thank you so much for your time.
• 47:04
  SPEAKER_04: I'm excited uh to share this.
• 47:06
  SPEAKER_04: Again, I mean, I can't say it enough.
• 47:08
  SPEAKER_04: When I someone I know we talked about this a while ago, but then it popped up on my Instagram for you to be like, Yes, this is awesome! I knew I had to get you in here and share it with the world.
• 47:18
  SPEAKER_04: So it's been an honor.
• 47:19
  SPEAKER_04: We love you.
• 47:20
  SPEAKER_04: Thank you.
• 47:20
  SPEAKER_04: Thanks for being here.
• 47:21
  SPEAKER_04: Of course.
• 47:24
  SPEAKER_04: So good.
• 47:26
  SPEAKER_04: I think there's a ton of food for thought here, and I'm so glad we were able to share and capture this time together.
• 47:33
  SPEAKER_04: I truly hope you'll take some time to ponder it more and pursue some of the dreams or visions, which may have been sparked during the time that you've taken to listen.
• 47:41
  SPEAKER_04: I know that Ashley and I actually wanted to talk about it more, so we have invited Jeremy to do a creative mind renewal workshop with my whole collective team here, the whole simply wholehearted collective team.
• 47:56
  SPEAKER_04: And it is going to be awesome.
• 47:58
  SPEAKER_04: The core of this workshop will be practical ways to reroute the negative traffic in our minds and our hearts that keep us from creating to our fullest potential.
• 48:07
  SPEAKER_04: And I know we talked about that a little bit, so I want to expand, but I think it's really going to address some of the issues that we're struggling with.
• 48:15
  SPEAKER_04: And I really want to unlock some of the innovation in my own life and see the collective unlock it as well.
• 48:22
  SPEAKER_04: So the good news is he is now going to offer the same workshop as a one-on-one session.
• 48:29
  SPEAKER_04: So when you contact Jeremy for your free consultation, you might want to look into that specific workshop.
• 48:34
  SPEAKER_04: Whether you're a young entrepreneur or a stay-at-home mom or a seasoned professional, I know Creative Clay Coaching could help to bring about the transformation you've been wanting to uncover.
• 48:46
  SPEAKER_04: So to find out more about Jeremy and Creative Clay Coaching for your free consultation, remember mention that to him.
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_04: You can find out more on our show notes or on Instagram as Clay Clayworks.creative, as well as his website, cwclifecoaching.com.
• 49:05
  SPEAKER_04: And hey, by the way, it's March 1st.
• 49:08
  SPEAKER_04: Can I just mention that this year is zooming by?
• 49:11
  SPEAKER_04: It happens to be my middle daughter's birthday and she's entering double digits.
• 49:15
  SPEAKER_04: Ah, time needs to stop.
• 49:18
  SPEAKER_04: Anyway, I wanted to mention that we are going to be unveiling some pretty exciting developments this month.
• 49:24
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• 49:40
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• 49:45
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• 49:51
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