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RHOC: Taco Fiesta Fail · Drama, Darling: A Real Housewives Comedy Podcast

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  Drama, Darling Drama, Darling drama, Darling. Hey, everybody, it's
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  Thursday. What's up. It's drama Darling. I'm Amy Phillips. Deanna Chang
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  is with me. Hi, Deana. How's it going, Amy, It's
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  good. We are here, We're sleeveless, we're really feeling this, this
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  summer weather. It is eight am in Los Angeles. We are we are
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  poised. We are ready to jump into Orange County. Which was an insane
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  episode. I mean, Dianna, I was taking notes like I was,
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  you know, uh, what do you call them in the court when they
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  are stenographer? I thought I was taking notes like I was a freaking stenographer
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  up in the peace all night long. I was like, I can't.
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  I gotta sit up, you know. Yeah, but whoa, I mean,
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  just holy smokes, oh god, lets to talk about it. But
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  you know, this is this is Shannon at our best right now. I
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  know her at our worst is at our best. Oh you said it.
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  I said it, Diana Chang, you said it. At her worst is
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  at her best, and and she is authentic to herself, period dot period
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  dot. So well, before we get into that, let me just say
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  get your tickets. Again. This is September thirtieth in Los Angeles. So
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  I'm excited, Danny, I know, amazing, this is amazing. I
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  mean, okay, so it's a great idea. Yeah, yeah, God,
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  it's like get Andy in a camera. This is like an actual Housewives
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  night out right, and it's intimate and yet you know it's going to be
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  like a party. I mean, I'm i I you know, we were
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  talking to the event people. I'm like, put a gallon a bubble in
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  the pool because we need to have all of the flavors of a Housewives party,
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  Like should it be a white party? Should people dress in all white?
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  A La Kyle, you know this is the limit. But I just
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  this was such a great idea. Fun can't say it was my idea can't
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  say it was, but I'm thrilled to be a part of this. And
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  was it chef's idea. No, if someone came to us with the idea,
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  so we didn't sound like Lea blexens is an idea for this event.
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  He said, you guys want to do it. We love your book,
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  Amy. First of all, I love that you didn't have to list a
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  goddamn finger that somebody. Yeah, it is all in place, and it
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  is just like, you're amazing, You're amazing, come over here, let's
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  let's go. That's you know what. That's the cool thing about it is
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  that, like you know, and Stuart and I are as We always joke
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  we're scrappy af like we will schlep, we will scrub, we will we
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  will fly, like we just will do anything and get it done, oh
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  one hundred. And we've proven that to each other a time and time again
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  and we have no problem. So the bottom line is is that it is
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  really cool to have a concept come to us that really is such a great
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  idea because you see, these types of things have happened in the zeitgeist of
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  pop culture where celebrities do like little intimate gatherings and things like that. And
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  I'm not saying we're celebrities, but we are Bravo fanatics who want to celebrate
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  with people who are like minded. And it's also about food, you know,
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  so that's the thing. And again I'm focusing so much attention on this
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  podcast and my Cabaramian Vegas which announcement on that coming steeah that you know,
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  I have a lot of balls in the air, so to have again to
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  have this coming our way without having yeah, it's just amazing. And the
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  website's super cute. You deserve it. And also is there a cap like
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  do people have to run now? Because I'm sure there has a certain limit
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  to the amount of people who can show up. You'd think that you're the
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  one who actually is behind this the way that you're supporting it so well.
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  I love it. Deanna Chang is actually the one who came up with no,
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  there has Yeah, there has to be, because you know, the
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  home can only fit so many. Yeah, I don't know what that number
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  is. It gives myself getting over there, I'm like, I got a
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  march on over. We'll get you over We'll get you over there. Yeah,
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  we'll get you over by the pool sip and a drink, it'll be
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  great. So that's a super exciting thing. But in the meantime, before
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  we hop into Orange County, because I really don't want to waste any more
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  time, just just one story, okay, okay, maybe two stories,
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  maybe two stories, okay number one. You were on the line with me
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  when I opened my phone and saw this. But essentially I was like,
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  whoa because it's Tom Sandoval. So I follow Decider dot com on Instagram and
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  it's like a picture of Tom Sandoval with a bloody nose. I was like,
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  oh my god, things are getting nuts on VPR right now. He
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  has been Now this is bad, like he is now, Okay, it's
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  not that. Okay, everybody, calm down. It's not It's just the
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  trailer apparently has dropped for Special Forces, and this is you know, one
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  of those competition shows where they get all these you know, reality or pop
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  culture stars in there and then they compete in like a military type of way.
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  So he apparently he said, and he quotes, I had an affair
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  and I want to take a beating. And then he's got this bloody nose.
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  So I don't know what the bloody nose is. From if it's from
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  just over exertion, but essentially that's what that is. I just want everybody
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  to know it's not like Arianna punched him. You know, let's just be
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  clear that that that's not what's happening, because that's immediately what I thought when
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  I opened this up. I thought, we have another Stas Christen situation where
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  someone got backhanded and we don't want violence. We just don't. We just
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  don't. Everyone is getting their money off this hut. That line is so
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  annoying, very annoying. I'm annoyed. Yeah it is. I'm just annoyed.
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  Moving on like I love it. Well, let me light the let
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  me lighten the load and say again another account I follow Bravo Underscore after Underscore,
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  thoughts, Underscore, which you know, the underscores matter, you know,
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  at the end of the day, they really do. Okay, Can
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  I just say one thing about underscores? Yeah, I got one of my
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  daughter, Yeah, oh you do. You got fortune it was twenty ten,
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  whatever it was. I don't know what it was. I don't know
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  what. I don't even have a story of underscores all I just I just
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  remember my sister having her AOL account and then moving to like a Gmail or
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  whatever it was. Whatever the next thing was, yeah, and she had
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  an underscore. H and whatever happened she had an underscore, and her friend
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  was like underscore, Like, there's no real story, it just can be
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  heartbreaks. I am embarrassed. I don't even ever plug my Twitter because I'm
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  embarrassed to the underscore. It's it's underscore, it's under embarrassment. I have
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  under embarrassment from my underscore. I do. Concept is killing me. I
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  don't even like my I hate my Instagram name. I've been wanting to get
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  that changed for years, but I can't seem to get my handle around it.
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  And every time I try to change it, they won't let me because
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  I'm a business My account is a business account, so it's very complicated.
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  I just want to be like Amy Phillips. I don't like meet Amy Phillips.
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  Okay, I'm sorry, meet me, you've met me here, I
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  am you know. This is what happens when you're like a twenty eight year
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  old who's trying to like make a brand for themselves, and then they grow
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  out of it, and then you're stuck with a meat Amy Phillips and an
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  Amy Phillips underscore on Twitter, Baby we got somebody's got to get you,
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  but one time, correct, I get her sorted out, like a little
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  darling, Like little Darling's look alive. Because Amy, we gotta steps to
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  like we need a streamlined Amy. Yes, I agree. Period. Now
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  I do have real Amy Phillips on TikTok, which I think is fine.
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  That's reasonable. That's reasonable because it's real Housewives and it's real. I mean,
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  I I just was like, I can't. I don't know what to
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  do, you know, I you know what I feel like. It's not
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  that big of a deal. It's just an underscore. It's normal. It's
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  a normal name. I mean, I have a name on Twitter that that
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  that paralyzes me. But it's normal. Okay, I don't like my Instagram
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  name. It paralyzes me, but it's normal paralyzed. Way did you keep
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  saying? But it it takes my legs, but it's normal. It puts
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  me under for days, but it's normal. It's like, oh my god,
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  maybe deep depression for weeks upon end, but it's it's it's just it's
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  just family blended. It's just we have arguments. Oh my god, help
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  me. Oh outside. So yeah, get me through the goddamn day.
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  Yeah, it really will. I'm out so embarrassed. This is me at
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  my this is me at my most vulnerable. You look at my Twitter name
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  and that's why I haven't reached the success that I want. You look at
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  my Instagram name and you see it clearly. Your girl's not going anywhere.
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  Your girls it. Oh my god, help me help me. Lord.
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  Thank you to Bravo, Underscore after Underscore thoughts, Underscore for really spearheading this
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  conversation, because this is why. Because they posted, and shall I say,
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  reposted a video that's from TikTok. This is what you gotta do.
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  You gotta credit everybody, but it is and I'm going to tell you that
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  TikTok name in just one second, but the second I click on the video,
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  it's gonna start playing and I can't do that right now. But so,
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  Taylor Armstrong was out with her husband and the paps were all over her
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  and she was living her best life talking it up to them. She is
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  totally I mean, she's three sheets to the wind. It is so funny.
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  Okay, so let's just listen. I guess the Real Housewives Orange County
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  is busy enough for you, but maybe you better stay tuned because they're reunion.
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  It's about to happen, and I'm not sure you understand crazy this for
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  its dirtiest are you kidding? As? So? What? Okay? So
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  that's from the video was shot by Loope de Lo Santos and that's on TikTok
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  so oh wait, TikTok is at Hollywood Entertainment Entertainment A one. I can't,
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  I can't, I'm out, but but I just want to say that
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  this is so funny. She is like so wasted, and she's like somebody
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  didn't know her name, so she was reading them for filth. She was
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  like, good what you don't know my name? I'm done with you.
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  This is the old school crew over here and they're like Taylor and she's like
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  thank you. I mean, she was on fire. She's like, you
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  don't even know what's gonna happen on Orange County Reunion. It is going down
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  and then she's like posing and she's swizzling. I can't explain, and she's
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  like kissing, blowing, She's building an orange. She is living her best
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  life. She's an orange where it's at. Yeah, She's like yeah,
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  it's I mean, she'll like present the Orange. I'm not kidding you.
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  It's so funny Orange. Yes, she's like the Orange is where it's at.
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  I'm telling you, these girls you're gonna this reunion is dirty. I
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  mean, it is life changing. It's great. It's the tailor that we
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  want to see. It's she's fun, she's loose, she's a little drunk,
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  but she's having a blast. And I all, can I all encourage
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  you to go watch it at Bravo Underscore after Underscore thoughts Underscore. This is
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  the tailor. I would love to see pop ye okay on Real Housewives of
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  Orange County if she could maybe move some of this lighthearted, delightful energy over
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  to the program, Yeah, that would be helpful. The thing is,
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  I really don't think there has been room for her. I think she's playing
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  it cool and I don't. I hear what you're saying, and I agree
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  with you and I and I also stand by the idea that I think that
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  she's not forcing it, which I appreciate, Like she's not shoving herself in
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  there where she doesn't belong. She's kind of playing it cool and she's letting
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  whatever happen and it be organic. And right now, the timing is off.
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  The timing is off for her, you know, yeah, I agree,
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  So I just hope Yeah, yeah, I agree. I do.
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  Harken back to what you said about Atlanta, the new girls in Atlanta,
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  and ultimately Taylor's a new girl. And yeah, at the end of the
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  day, she is the end. At the end of the day, she's
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  the antithesis of Tamera. Yeah, she is the anti Tamra and we like
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  that. Uh huh, But you gotta grab your moments. I mean,
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  yes, you listen, you're like the O in Atlanta. The ogs are
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  kind of slipping a little bit, and that's the time for the newbies to
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  like not worry about the og is. Like, do you get yours?
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  Make your impact? Felts I guess, but like that what you just played.
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  And I'm not saying Taylor needs to get drunk right right right right?
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  But can she do that? Like does that not? Can we have fun?
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  I mean I think I listened, I was. I had listened to
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  her this week on Jeff Lewis's show, and she was awesome. Yeah she
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  is. She's got a lot to give and she's funny and I think she's
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  kookie, and we saw a little bit of that on Ultimate Girl's Trip as
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  well, but we also saw the depth and the heart that she has too,
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  So I mean, I do think the time will will come for her.
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  I don't think anyone's going to give up on her. I mean,
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  she's just a friend of right now anyway. So she's a friend. It's
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  just a friend, I mean, and so is Jen. So but Jen
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  seems to be getting in there because she's part of the drama. But see,
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  I like that Taylor's not taking that route, like she's kind of the
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  fun friend. She's having fun with that role and we'll see where it goes,
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  Okay. I mean, yeah, I have been forgetting about her on
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  the show, and I don't think that's the right place for her to be.
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  But if you what I like, what I like that I'm hearing right
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  now is that she's coming back next season, I feel like in your professional
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  opinion, and I do like, then I feel good, we'll catch you
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  on the next one. Like, I think it's great that she showed up
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  at Shannon's party and was like having fun. Yeah, you know, like
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  I think that she's she's she's on the right track. So I think her
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  star will rise. It's just that, and I agree with you, some
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  of that energy really needs to be seen. And speaking of let's talk about
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  Orange count. So we start with a very quiet, you know scene,
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  uh you know, the the seagulls are and it's just like dead silence,
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  and then it's just like Shannon going talking with John on his houseboat. I
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  felt ambushed. I told Heather something private and she betrayed me, and he's
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  like, be careful who you trust. And then she's like why why would
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  she want to hurt me or us? So it's how it beg is this
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  this is this accent? Maybe this is too much for me at this hour,
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  Like that's too good. That is too holy shit. Okay, wow,
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  it's dramatic. Here's some dramatic music. I just was ambushed and I
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  told Heather some information that she she just decided to betray me with and these
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  girls. I don't know. That's oh my god, there you go.
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  That's that's that's just some fun with the Okay. So, and I feel
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  bad for her because she really is spoid? Did she take it on the
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  chin? This this episode? Holy shit? And the juxtaposition of Jen telling
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  the story about Dominic and that beautiful, that the adoption was just gorgeous.
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  The Exonarees, the the the irony of having Emily talk about the Exonarees and
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  how they've spent, you know, a huge portion of their lives behind bars,
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  having not been actually guilty of a crime, and to then wrap up
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  that saying, what do we have to complain about? Like that's horrible?
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  What do we have to complain about? And then the editors swooping in with
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  Shannon with her Taco Fiesta decor, going it's just just I can't I have
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  I am done? I yeah, I just thought, boy, they are
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  hitting her from everyone, you know, like yeah, wow, wowow,
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  God. I mean, Shannon was she was on goddamn fire. You know,
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  there's no one who when she's going down emotionally, there's no one who
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  makes me laugh. And this I don't say this comfortably, you know,
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  listen, I know I'm not supposed to be laughing, but the way Shannon
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  falls apart kills me. Like I was laughing because it's so different than I
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  think anyone else falls apart, and seeing her trying to come back up and
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  put a lid on things trying to get a lid on it. You were
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  really on the journey with her, because she doesn't you know when she says
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  like I wear my emotions on my sleeve and Emily's like, whoa. I
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  mean, it's like, okay, Emily, but you know, you haven't
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  been here for as long as Shannon. And this is where I'm gonna say,
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  step back for a second, Like Shannon fucking give her a break.
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  Every season, I keep saying this every season. It's like they just keep
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  coming for her, I swear, and she has really shown a lot.
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  So yes she does, and so she wears her emotions on her sleeve.
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  And then you're with her on the phone. You know, you feel it,
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  you feel her. Oh it's so hard, it goes through. It's
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  really a lot to go through, you know, and we are going through
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  it with her. I mean, I guess at the end of the day,
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  this John character, this bootleg al gore mofo is you know he's not
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  doing right by her because you don't get into this state that she's in a
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  fear. That's what I'm seeing. She is in total red fear of what
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  the repercussions are going to be of anyone speaking about their relationship like it's really
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  bad. She is, you know, pulling producers out of every bush to
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  stop what's going to happen, which is him hearing that she's talking about their
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  relationship, right, I mean, like that's the that's what's at the core
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  of what's happening inside of her. Right. So something is very, very
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  wrong with their relationship. It's not regular stuff. I don't believe. I
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  think that he's putting making her feel this like the insecurity level is so high.
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  I feel like they're hanging on by a single thread, and you know
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  she wants it to work. So here, well, that's what I think
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  that the fear is. The fear is that she knows that the beast of
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  reality television and being in the public eye destroys relationships. You don't really have
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  much of a chance. And here's the thing about these I think that Shannon
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  has this the point about her saying, like, you're making it sound like
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  I'm telling you that he's abusing me or like so that the scene at the
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  end when she was finally talking to Emily, I think was a very important
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  scene, which was that she said something along the lines of I know that
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  I've said some things to you, But did have I ever said abuse,
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  you know, drug use, infidelity or like whatever? She said, the
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  big the big ones, you know, the big hitters, right, And
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  Emily's like, no, no, you know, of course not. And
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  and Tamer knows that too, or I told Tamer that too, and she
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  like so. And I think that that's important for her to get out there,
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  because, yeah, Shannon's right, when you are making these insinuations that
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  things aren't good, things aren't right, we're concerned. There's no other way
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  to take that than to say that there are huge abusive undertones about their relationship.
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  So that is what I understand Shannon getting so tied up in because she's
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  thinking this is going to be everywhere on every blog. There are going to
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  be headlines that say cast is concerned, you know it. It can really
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  spiral into infinity about how bad things are, and that's where it can get
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  a little reckless. That's why I think Shannon was it was it was a
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  train, it was off the tracks, you know, and she couldn't.
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  And so that's where I and I'm not saying that their relationship is good.
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  Obviously it's not, and there are problems, but I also don't think that
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  they are. There are have been problems that the cast is insinuating that there
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  are, and that is what bothers me about it. I think that's a
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  little reckless. Now. I have one thing rattling around in my head and
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  I don't remember who said it, and I don't remember, but like who
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  said that he says she's like overweight? Oh right, I think Heather said
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  that. Okay, okay, so that is like that, So that would
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  be that would be abuse. Yeah, that would be like mental abuse,
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  like verbal Yeah. And I feel like, yeah, I agree with every
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  single thing you said, co sign on one hundred percent of it. And
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  I have a feeling that he's been really shitty to her behind the scenes.
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  But but I don't know, right, but she did need to get out
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  those big guys, you know, yes, right, yes, yes,
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  something's not sitting right, you know. And and it is a reality show,
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  you know. So I think the girls are like I mean, Shane
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  has been dragged this way, that way and the other, so right,
• 26:08
  you know, they all do it like you know, I'm out here in
• 26:11
  these streets like with every time I'm annoyed or we have a fight, it's
• 26:18
  not you know we're in the pumpkin farm and we're gonna have if I'm upset,
• 26:22
  we're talking about it. We're on right. Yes, Well that that
• 26:26
  begs the question. I mean, you know should I mean that getting back
• 26:32
  to that point about Shannon saying Emily, I wear my heart, I wear
• 26:36
  my emotions on my sleeve and my heart on my sleeve, and Emily saying
• 26:38
  we all do Shannon like this is bullshit. You know you're on her and
• 26:41
  then mitching the producers like you're on a reality show, you have to talk
• 26:45
  about it that type of thing. So, and then Shannon having that moment
• 26:49
  where it was like not just a hot mic, it was a hot camera
• 26:53
  on her. I mean it was like I was like, I can't believe
• 26:56
  they're showing this right now because right before Taco the taco party, and then
• 27:04
  she like walks away when she finds out that someone's not coming and I can't
• 27:08
  remember who was. There was a lot of them dropping life flies, but
• 27:14
  she basically was like, if these assholes are going to bring up the details,
• 27:18
  like about these details, meaning like does he spend enough time with me?
• 27:22
  Is there going to be enough money? His kid doesn't like me?
• 27:26
  I can't talk about that on camera. I can't, I can't, don't.
• 27:30
  This can't go on the camera. That's hurtful. To John, I
• 27:33
  was like, oh my god, you just said everything that we probably should.
• 27:37
  So, you know, money issues completely normal, Yes, spending time
• 27:42
  together completely normal. His kid doesn't like me also very normal in a situation
• 27:48
  where you've got you know, blending, when you're blending families, and that
• 27:52
  is hurtful. You know, it's to bring that out. Note should she
• 27:56
  get a pass? I think so if these people, like, if it's
• 28:00
  in the vault, like Heather said, then it should be in the vault,
• 28:04
  you know, like when it comes to these very detailed situations that where
• 28:08
  there's a child involved about being blended, and yeah, I think there should
• 28:12
  be things that should be left off of the reality table and if there is
• 28:18
  a true friendship there and then Emily's saying her argument is that there shouldn't be
• 28:22
  we're on a reality show. Well, we also want to see real friendships,
• 28:27
  so how can you build This is just a real problem. It's a
• 28:30
  real problem for a reality show because you want to build a real friendship,
• 28:33
  but you want to drive a storyline and that can't happen unless there's some betrayal.
• 28:40
  Do you think that Heather h like, because Heather is just singing,
• 28:44
  you know, she's singing like a canary in these confessionals, it's like ouch
• 28:49
  out, Yeah, I know. It seems like, you know, it
• 28:55
  seems like Tamra's the one who was dead set about like she's like, I'm
• 28:59
  going to get this drama out front and center, get ahead of it.
• 29:04
  I am as Margaret Joseph would say, Yeah, it seems like Tamara is
• 29:10
  the one who was instigating on camera, like making everyone say their nonsense about
• 29:17
  Shannon, like she was the instigator. But Heather certainly said a lot,
• 29:23
  you know, and gosh, I forgot, like what you're saying, it's
• 29:27
  kind of started with camera. Well yeah, she was the one sort of
• 29:32
  pulling it out, being like heav you know, Heather saying things behind her
• 29:36
  back, oh right, every saying yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah camera.
• 29:40
  And then she's sitting pretty at the taco f so right like you know,
• 29:45
  but that'spetch us, We're gonna have some fun fiaza and I'm like and
• 29:48
  then cut to her confessional, She's like, do I think they're gonna get
• 29:51
  married? No, no, yeah, you know, so she's I think
• 29:57
  that she lit the fire and then like Heather's going down, but Heather certainly
• 30:04
  is spouting off. I think that Shannon and John when they first met were
• 30:11
  doing great, yeah, and was happy to have him on camera, you
• 30:18
  know, and like it was all exciting and great, and now the relationship
• 30:22
  is in a tougher spot and she wants to pull back, and I think
• 30:26
  that is really hard to do on a reality show. Uh huh. Well.
• 30:32
  I thought it was also interesting what Heather said to Shannon, and that
• 30:34
  a very explosive fight when Shannon said that John is private, he doesn't like
• 30:40
  want this, and Heather's like stop saying that, like he's not a private
• 30:44
  person. I mean, they really broke the fourth wall quite a bit in
• 30:48
  this episode, with Heather being like, cut it out, you're both on
• 30:51
  a show. He chose that, and I think one of the things that
• 30:53
  was maybe not necessarily officially in the vault, because it doesn't seem like it
• 30:59
  would be some thing Shannon would say, don't tell anyone this. But I
• 31:03
  think that Shannon probably joked around with Heather saying, oh, John loves the
• 31:07
  limelight, you know, he loves being in you know, so Heather has
• 31:11
  that information and now is sharing it and saying like, well, you're not
• 31:15
  a private person and you love being in the limelight. So then you have
• 31:18
  to take what goes with being in the limelight, which is this, Yeah,
• 31:23
  they always end up here, They always end up here, Like,
• 31:26
  it's never not going to be this in a relationship. It's never not going
• 31:30
  to be this yet, because you know, when someone's going down, you
• 31:37
  know you and then there's a gall over on the side who you know has
• 31:42
  the drama but is not speaking up, and is that like it's I think
• 31:48
  it's impossible to just let them sit there and not bring them in because like,
• 31:53
  gosh, wow, I mean Amy, the way Emily went and you're
• 31:59
  impression just maybe, but the way she went from zero to one hundred on
• 32:01
  that call was in my life, Like that was a fine moment from this
• 32:08
  episode you now, just letting her go in like a twenty second span from
• 32:14
  like casual, how's it going sold? Turggle it Lie, I can't do
• 32:20
  it on fright arm and then her the comedy of her she could not hang
• 32:24
  up from that FaceTime And I assume we all saw it, and we've all
• 32:29
  like, I feel like we've all been there on some level. It was
• 32:31
  very like uh question mark from Luanne when she was voice mellowing to Tom.
• 32:37
  You know ye see that was a great moment. And also I know that
• 32:42
  this is very insignificant. But another great moment was when someone went over to
• 32:46
  Jen's house. Can't think of who it was, Gina. Gina went over
• 32:52
  to Jen's house and Jen's like, oh, this never gets hot enough,
• 32:57
  like the currig or whatever. Yeah, and then she has like her she
• 33:00
  has to like warm up her coffee in the microwave after that, and I
• 33:02
  was like, I feel it's like so seen. I feel seen. She's
• 33:07
  now my favorite housewife, like just because I'm like, thank you for showing
• 33:10
  this moment, like yes, those are the things, those are the things,
• 33:15
  and constantly having to like and I don't use krig. I have a
• 33:17
  regular coffee pot, but I feel like if I when I go back to
• 33:22
  it, get back right into that coffee pot. I had to pop that
• 33:25
  thing right in the microphone. It's not going to be enough. Emily at
• 33:30
  my desk sits this, which is Oh, I'm so jealous. I've always
• 33:35
  wanted one of those. It's my sister Lauren got this for me. I
• 33:38
  think it's under thirty dollars. You get it on Amazon, and it's a
• 33:43
  little warm plate warmer that you can set the time and the temp, so
• 33:47
  if you want it for an hour or two and I my coffee immediately when
• 33:53
  I'm working, you know, I get up in the morning, go to
• 33:55
  my computer, that goes on, my coffee, sits on it right away.
• 34:00
  I am keeps it stupid. I don't know why I've never done this.
• 34:07
  It's an important I didn't know about it. I did last year.
• 34:10
  I did. I knew about it, and I just thought forgot about it,
• 34:14
  and I thought, you know, I'll be tripping over another cord.
• 34:16
  I will be, it will fall, Okay, but it's worth it.
• 34:22
  That's not to say I don't have to pop a coffee in the microwave for
• 34:27
  thirty before it sits on this plate. But once it's on there, it's
• 34:32
  a done deal situated because it is holding the temperature. It is keeping it
• 34:38
  at temperature, you know, and that feels nice. It sure does.
• 34:45
  All right, let's get back into it. Okay. That was a I
• 34:49
  wish that was an hashtag ad. Yeah, anytime we're available Okay, so
• 34:58
  I don't even know where Okay, where should we even like jump back in?
• 35:01
  I have so many notes, I don't know what to say. God,
• 35:06
  I mean, it feels like, you know, we could go away
• 35:09
  and then come back to more. Shannon, I mean, do we want
• 35:13
  to go to the condo? Who's I don't know who's condo? Oh,
• 35:20
  Heather's pet, Heather's penthouse. You have to say, Okay, I'm sorry,
• 35:25
  Yes, we need to change this to see that. Yeah, yes,
• 35:36
  okay, I'm just scrolling through my notes. So and Terry. Yes,
• 35:39
  they're an escrow for a penthouse in La. It's fourteen million dollars and
• 35:45
  I love it. In her confession, She's like, now, when I
• 35:46
  get a call for a last minute part, I can do it in Orange
• 35:51
  County. No, And I was like, why not? Like, why
• 35:53
  can't you do a last minute part Orange? You can? Like she must
• 35:59
  mean like an audition or something. But also I'm like, it's just the
• 36:01
  irony of watching this while there's a strike is just not lost on me,
• 36:06
  you know what I mean? It is of it is good. But Roberto
• 36:10
  Cavali, this is the first home he's done, which actually is very impressive
• 36:16
  and very interesting. But I felt like, all of a sudden, I've
• 36:20
  now been what I'm watching a whole other show. It's a design show,
• 36:23
  and I am just like so Heather and Terry always have something up their sleeve
• 36:30
  for building their empire out and and God love them for that, you know,
• 36:34
  huge respect, right, But this is clearly what's next. I mean,
• 36:37
  we've got we're selling this house that they haven't told anybody about yet,
• 36:43
  but we'll be the biggest sale in the history of Orange County, which we
• 36:45
  now come to learn because they sell it eventually for like fifty five million.
• 36:50
  But they have this penthouse and we have a million. I mean, can
• 36:53
  we What's I mean? He's a plastic surgeon. I'm just trying to understand
• 37:00
  what happening. He's a plastic surgeon. He also has a television show that
• 37:05
  has been on for many, many years. I think that Let's also say
• 37:12
  that they've made great investments. You know, they probably made good investments,
• 37:15
  and this is probably the biggest turnaround they've ever you know, done with this
• 37:20
  fifty five million, because as Terry said, like I love this house,
• 37:23
  I want to be buried in it, but for that price tag, I'll
• 37:27
  be buried somewhere else. So, but I'm thinking they are poised for a
• 37:31
  leap into the flipping market, into the design market. That's where they're going
• 37:37
  next. I had said about Lisa vander Pump, like she's done in West
• 37:42
  Hollywood, she's take picking up the landing gear and she's going to drop it
• 37:45
  down in Vegas and expand the empire there. And that's the future of vander
• 37:49
  Pump. And that is, in fact what she's doing. She's got that
• 37:51
  new restaurant popping up over in the Flamingo, And for Heather and Terry,
• 37:55
  their future is definitely going to be in design real estate in that market.
• 38:02
  Whether it's exactly flipping, I don't know, but it's definitely going to be
• 38:07
  along those lines high end flipping. Maybe. I don't, you know,
• 38:10
  because this is just too on the nose for me, Like it's too what
• 38:15
  it is, right right, it's too what it is. Yeah, I
• 38:19
  was taking it in like a peasant, like really, I was giving it
• 38:23
  no extra layer of thought. I was just like, look at those finishes.
• 38:27
  I don't really think about finishes that much. There's certainly a lot of
• 38:30
  different materials, a lot of finishes. Do I like it too many finishes.
• 38:34
  No, you know, I didn't like it. I respect that it's
• 38:37
  Roberto Cavali, but and it looks very elegant in chic. Not my style
• 38:42
  at all, not my style at all in the least bit not my style.
• 38:45
  Yeah, I'm like, I just don't know that. I think it's
• 38:51
  so so damn special. I mean, I get it, but I don't
• 38:54
  know about it, you know, Like I was like, do I want
• 38:58
  to be in there? Not really, I don't know. Oh I'm not
• 39:01
  a penthouse person. I want a cozy home. And yeah, I totally
• 39:07
  agree. Is there a market for that, absolutely sure, But I just
• 39:12
  can't see Heather being that goo goo Gaga over a penthouse. It just doesn't
• 39:15
  seem like her. Why, You're right, the long game is the flipping
• 39:22
  thing. We're cooking up something and we're mad. Respect, I'm going to
• 39:27
  follow, We're going to follow this. Yeah, I mean, fifty five
• 39:30
  million is just a heart stopping number, you know, I mean that is
• 39:35
  we're I guess what just blows my hair back a little bit is that we'll
• 39:38
  hear of stars who are selling their six million dollar home. They're ten million,
• 39:45
  you know, yeah, five I know million is Jesu Beyonce money,
• 39:52
  you know what I mean, that's j Lo money. Like, that's just
• 39:54
  it's just to me, at least in my head. I don't know if
• 39:58
  I'm no, the more you say it, the more I'm knocked out.
• 40:01
  Oh kid, it just was like, I'm like fifty, Like, let's
• 40:05
  just get into not five million, not ten, not twenty, not thirty
• 40:09
  right forty, not fifty fifty five million dollars fifty five, you know,
• 40:22
  I just it's just and the fourteen million dollar penthouse, which is an enormous
• 40:27
  price tag for a penthouse, seems like nothing to them. Nothing, you
• 40:30
  see, it is nothing. And then they go and buy this other house
• 40:34
  you know that they're now working on, which you know about, right,
• 40:38
  No, but you know maybe I did. Who knows. It's hard to
• 40:43
  keep trapped. Yeah, it will just it just hit the news about it.
• 40:45
  But oh okay, so all right, well I would love to talk
• 40:50
  about Well, the foster kitten thing was adorable, and the dominic thing.
• 40:54
  I thought that was a really beautiful scene. I felt a little awkward with
• 40:58
  her talking to him about It's so like, this is our story, We're
• 41:01
  going to share this, and you're I'm gonna be you know, I don't
• 41:06
  want to say using you as a pawn, but he seemed very comfortable and
• 41:12
  that's why I was okay with it in the end, because her like her
• 41:17
  demeanor and her approach is so kind and gentle, and I love this side
• 41:24
  of her. I am just really looking forward to this relationship with Ryan coming
• 41:30
  to a flaming end because let's move on from him. But I love like
• 41:36
  the fostering the kittens, the sweet scene talking about you know, the skin
• 41:39
  color, and her asking about, you know, do you want to meet
• 41:44
  your birth mother? Things like that. I just think it's so relatable to
• 41:47
  so many people. And these are the moments that I feel like with reality
• 41:52
  television, we can go from a fourteen million dollar penthouse scene to a taco
• 41:55
  fiesta where no one's showing up, to this beautiful, nice scene about life
• 42:01
  and what's real. And I really enjoyed it. Yeah, it was.
• 42:07
  She what a hell of a first season Jenna's had. She's just pitch perfect
• 42:10
  as a you know, a god, I mean tip in the hat like
• 42:15
  she is just she's the middle ground between Tamra. I wanted to call her
• 42:22
  Tabata Tamra and Taylor it's like she's just in there and she's authentic and she's
• 42:31
  herself and she's connected and she's giving. But it's just straight on and I
• 42:38
  just think she's fantastic. I what what made that scene? Listen, if
• 42:46
  you're going, yes, always with children, regardless of the situation, I'm
• 42:52
  always like, we're really putting these kids out there, you know. Yeah,
• 42:54
  yeah, and he's very young. What made it a softer landing for
• 43:00
  me is that she's had him since eleven months, So I didn't know if
• 43:04
  this was a newer foster child, and that would have really thrown me.
• 43:08
  But just because it was all, you know, this is their life and
• 43:13
  it's her kid and got it, you know, and they're having this conversation
• 43:16
  and it was lovely and you know she's it's it's a very special story and
• 43:25
  wonderful. You know. Yeah, I liked it a lot. And I'll
• 43:30
  also say with Gina being at Gen's house, you said that Jenna's having a
• 43:36
  really phenomenal season, Well, I think that it is her moves, her
• 43:42
  house. She's got some housewives moves. Because Gina comes over and the second
• 43:45
  she's sitting down there with that hot coffee, I mean she was like,
• 43:51
  Okay, well, Shannon hasn't really said anything about you and Travis. But
• 43:57
  what she did say was your kids would have been taken away by CPS if
• 44:01
  she didn't step in. And Gina being like any is a complete fool,
• 44:10
  she lads along off phone number because I need in an attorney help. It's
• 44:19
  just so, I mean, she passed. She this. Their stories aren't
• 44:24
  straight, both of them. So if Gina's story is right, then Shannon's
• 44:29
  lying. And if Shannon's story isn't right, then Shannon's lying. When Shannon
• 44:32
  says this, this attorney called the DA at ten o'clock at night and woke
• 44:38
  him up out of a dead sleep, you know, like he's she said
• 44:43
  that, which is right? That was the story, Like she the attorney
• 44:47
  called the DA. Now that is a very big deal. I'm not not
• 44:53
  to say she I mean, let's put it this way. For her to
• 44:57
  say about the CPS thing was nast That was a Mary Low blow, and
• 45:02
  she's passed. She's she's retaliating against Gina for not being there for her.
• 45:09
  And and Gina was like, that's and I think Gina's reaction was absolutely valid.
• 45:16
  But Gina saying, if that was everyone's kids in Orange County will be
• 45:20
  locked off right now. But which was a good point, you know,
• 45:24
  I mean I saw something. Yeah, I'm so sorry. Yeah, this
• 45:30
  is not this is nothing. But I saw someone on Twitter questioning what and
• 45:34
  I think it might be a Long Island thing because I'm from Long Island.
• 45:37
  She called it a dwi, which is what we call a d u.
• 45:42
  I yeah, do you call it a d wee? No? Yeah,
• 45:45
  I think it's a Long Island thing because I'm from Long Island. And when
• 45:49
  she said, people were like, what did she say? What's a dwe
• 45:52
  I know I did not catch that. Yeah, she said dewey and anyway,
• 45:58
  neither here nor there. But I was so glad that's a weird Long
• 46:01
  Island thing they call it. That's funny. Okay, well there, But
• 46:08
  yes, I think, you know, it does seem like, well,
• 46:15
  it seems like there's two things going on. Gina gets what she needs from
• 46:21
  people and then drops them right a little bit like she did it with Heather.
• 46:27
  She just seems to do that a little bit. Yeah. It doesn't
• 46:31
  have one hundred percent loyalty here. She's in it to play the game and
• 46:37
  to stay on the show. On some level, and she's also rightfully mad
• 46:40
  on some level. But right and then it seems like Shannon, it's such
• 46:46
  a sensitive thing to want to keep getting credit for. Yeah, it's not
• 46:52
  a great look. I mean, I don't know. I can't imagine like
• 46:55
  constantly being like I saved your life in terms of this situation. It's just
• 47:02
  a great favor that you know she's using. I don't know both of them
• 47:08
  are they're both weird about it. Yeah, I agree, but I think
• 47:15
  to hold that over her, you know, is a little odd. But
• 47:21
  it is a big but for Gina to say, like all she did was
• 47:23
  pass on a phone number, Lady, that doesn't worry right now. I'm
• 47:27
  sorry. I think Shannon was there for you a lot more than you're giving
• 47:30
  your credit for in this moment. And I mean we saw the facetimes,
• 47:35
  We saw you falling apart, and he saw that this was a mess.
• 47:37
  And if if it is true that this lawyer called the DA at ten o'clock
• 47:42
  at night, that's a huge connection. And you know, you could have
• 47:46
  been arrested. Would your children have gone to CPS? No, they probably
• 47:52
  would not have. They would have gone if there was no one to take
• 47:57
  them you know what I'm saying, Like they would have had her call her
• 48:00
  husband or a or her family or someone to take them. That would have
• 48:07
  happened. That would have absolutely happened, because that's what happens when there's a
• 48:09
  warrant out and then you go to get them. You do have to put
• 48:13
  your kids somewhere immediately. They can't just wait around for you to get called.
• 48:17
  You know, Like I watched I know, I've watched a lot of
• 48:22
  footage. I mean, this is so funny. The irony is that I
• 48:25
  watched like a something on TikTok where it's basically like the show Cops, you
• 48:30
  know, but it's it's footage from their body cam. And it is really
• 48:36
  interesting because you really get to see what it's like for a police officer to
• 48:40
  be engaged with a criminal or somebody who's on the brink of potentially doing something
• 48:47
  wrong, and you kind of feel that fear of like, I don't know
• 48:52
  what this person's gonna do. I don't know what they have in their house.
• 48:53
  All I know is they have a warrant out for their arrest. They
• 48:57
  said, Like I was watching this footage, this woman had said she had
• 49:00
  a BB gun, but then at the other day she's like, well,
• 49:01
  you're just thinking, well, what if she doesn't have a bb gun,
• 49:05
  And the cops kind of do a sidebar so to hear their conversation. I
• 49:07
  think she's lying. We got to be careful she's she's now she's not opening
• 49:13
  the door. We're gonna have to go through the window because there's a warrant
• 49:15
  out. And then this woman was making she was trying to be all nice
• 49:21
  and kind and to try to like, you know, not have them arrest
• 49:25
  her. But at the end of the day, she was going to get
• 49:28
  arrested, so she it was a cat and mouse thing, and she just
• 49:31
  led them on for the longest time. They had to go in and get
• 49:34
  her and her kids had been in the house, but she sent them down
• 49:37
  the street. So when they took her to the car, the police car,
• 49:40
  she again wasn't complying and saying like you know, they were like,
• 49:45
  who, what is your husband's number, you know, or you're the kid's
• 49:49
  father's number, and she was not giving them the information, and they were
• 49:52
  finally like, we're done playing with you. If you don't give us this,
• 49:57
  like your kids will be taken somewhere else, like essentially to CPS or
• 50:01
  wherever if you're not going to cooperate. So it was interesting to see,
• 50:07
  like those steps can be taken in the worst possible case scenario that would not
• 50:10
  have happened with Gina, but like it can absolutely happen. Yes, yes,
• 50:15
  that makes sense, and to think I had to be reminded of like
• 50:20
  how Gina had been in this situation to begin with, that she had a
• 50:23
  hearing for her DUI that she didn't show up for, but that's because she
• 50:27
  thought that her attorney had made arrangements to postpone and reschedule the date of the
• 50:35
  hearing. But he filed something a request to you know, reschedule, and
• 50:40
  that request was denied, denied, and he did not know that, so
• 50:46
  like he didn't check to make sure that it was filed and that he did
• 50:50
  not know that it was denied. So that's why that was a warrant out.
• 50:52
  I just want to remind people why that was. Wow, oh wow,
• 50:58
  that is some base like buddy, I know, ma'am whoever you are
• 51:04
  bad, bad, bad, so bad. Well, and you know what
• 51:08
  I'm hearing amy is that did Emily And I don't have oc recorded in my
• 51:14
  brain, like this. But did Gina ever, sorry, Gina ever,
• 51:17
  like give Shannon her proper due and thank you. I think she did.
• 51:23
  Oh she did, so Gina, I do? I do? Yes.
• 51:28
  And now it's just they're playing. Now they're hurting each other by saying I've
• 51:32
  done this for you. You didn't do anything for me. You know.
• 51:36
  That's what I think. And it's not right. Okay, yeah, yeah
• 51:40
  bad. But she was also drunk and she didn't she did. We see
• 51:45
  in the previews that she swears on her life that she didn't say it right,
• 51:51
  that's right, because she was to keel it up and with her little
• 51:54
  baby cultural appropriation. Yah, yeah, I did that sombrero when she was
• 52:04
  upset. Also, I couldn't get a sense of the scale of the party
• 52:09
  at the beginning, and I was like, can we get like a PA
• 52:14
  to help her? I mean, I just didn't know. I was very
• 52:16
  con I was like, the table was all this alone, Like can we
• 52:22
  can we call a friend? Like can we just have another set of hand?
• 52:27
  Right? But she, I mean she went to home Goods and she
• 52:30
  stocked up. She's been planning this great she this this taco night was a
• 52:36
  big deal and and why was it what was it? Why did we have
• 52:39
  it? Was there a reason? Was there anything behind it? That was
• 52:44
  National Taco Night? It was National Taco Do Okay, So that's I'm trying
• 52:49
  to look further and there's no nowhere else. What was going on? Yeah?
• 52:53
  You know, I will say I did love Emily's confessional where she was
• 52:58
  like, I love tacos. Oh you know it's wrong. I know,
• 53:00
  I'm really mad if I can't get there, and then her other confessional about
• 53:06
  like like the back to back confessionals about when after Heather said, you seem
• 53:10
  to not remember that you tell lots of people lots of things, and then
• 53:15
  Shannon saying like, oh now I'm a looney bin. And then Heather in
• 53:19
  her confessional Shannon drinks at night and calls a plethora of people Gina. She
• 53:24
  drinks the True Seerum Tamra. The next morning she gets no memory of it.
• 53:29
  And then Emily she should have a phone breathwiser on her phone, like,
• 53:32
  I thought that was hilarious to unlock it. That was such a funny
• 53:36
  comment. I mean, these ladies were hitting on all they went in.
• 53:40
  They went in. I am just looking over at my notes and I just
• 53:45
  would like to say this, seeing Shannon trying to rally, you know at
• 53:50
  the park, right, I said, is art? It is? It
• 53:55
  is a form of art, you know, just lighthearted night. I just
• 54:01
  wanted to Oh, that tequila gun was so aggressive and un I didn't like
• 54:13
  that guy. I don't like noodle man. I know what you're doing back
• 54:15
  there. You're freaking me out with your energy and the way you're shooting at
• 54:21
  close range. Taylor's mouth up with tequila, like get out of here.
• 54:25
  It was. I didn't like it. I felt, yeah, yeah,
• 54:30
  I like that Tamra threw the gun away because that was just too much.
• 54:34
  Yeah, oh my god. And how about what Eddie said. Here's you
• 54:39
  know, like Eddie saying that like always happy to celebrate their relationship, and
• 54:45
  then Eddie saying, so there's no other girl you're fucking That was amazing.
• 54:52
  I was like, Wow, we just showed up to taco. I know,
• 54:55
  I'm like, go ahead, Tequila's I never like when I I see
• 55:00
  these gals throwing back shots. I'm like, I can't remember the last time
• 55:05
  I had a shot. Oh I know now, Yes, It's just such
• 55:09
  an intense way to turn up, you know. And I also think to
• 55:15
  myself, gotch when are you going to turn up? You know, like
• 55:16
  I wonder that about myself. It's like, I'll turn but am I going
• 55:23
  to turn up you now? Probably not. I haven't turned up in quite
• 55:29
  some time. And so listen, I feel your dinner party is an opportunity
• 55:34
  to turn up as long as it's not to the point of no return.
• 55:37
  So just sewing that out there. But they did so many shots and they
• 55:40
  were talking. It was yeah, that was something else. And then how
• 55:45
  about the last scene, which was Shannon and Emily meet up for lunch,
• 55:50
  and it was it was nice because you can tell they have a friendship and
• 55:54
  Emily's like, well, now that I see you, like I feel bad.
• 55:58
  I just want to have fun with you. Like it was sweet.
• 56:00
  It was cute. Emily full buck, crack out, gott a lover.
• 56:07
  Yeah, shann like her little. She really was there for coffee and they
• 56:13
  shot her from behind and it was like, well, there we go.
• 56:16
  Is there a whale till? Yeah? It wasn't you know, like listen,
• 56:21
  she's got a great body, always whale tail with the thong sticking out.
• 56:25
  Oh that whale tail. Like I wasn't I didn't know I figured you
• 56:32
  were saying something about I didn't know exactly, but I was like dewey or
• 56:37
  whatever. Yeah, it was very dewey. I mean it was such a
• 56:40
  cute scene and I felt Shannon receiving because she was really coming in like are
• 56:45
  these people my friends are not? And it was nice, you know,
• 56:51
  it was she really Shannon does wear her emotions on her sleep. You can
• 56:55
  see that expression everything, every single thing, her taking it, every word
• 57:00
  of Emily and the face right that every word. No, that's why she's
• 57:07
  a gold star. Yeause Shannon is actually going through it, you know,
• 57:13
  Like I would say, a lot of the Beverly Hills girls could pull a
• 57:15
  page like Shannon is given. She's giving us. You know, it's all
• 57:22
  happening in real time. She's gonna run over those producers if if she's if
• 57:29
  nothing else is gonna happen, she's gonna run over those producers and start to
• 57:32
  have a meltdown. She's gonna like just feel it all and we're gonna see
• 57:38
  it. You know. God, that was so sad when she I mean,
• 57:43
  after they were dropping like flies at her party and she's trying to set
• 57:45
  up for it. It was really hard breaking it felt very real. Were
• 57:50
  like the producer said, now she just hung up on me and she's by
• 57:53
  party after couples like she was so sad. It was, and you know,
• 58:01
  most of these parties are powered by an entertainment person. So I did
• 58:06
  enjoy even though I was like, we don't have a second set of hands
• 58:09
  over here. I did enjoy seeing a galet together an event like absolute old
• 58:16
  school hands on, you know, grassroots effort. I agree, And it
• 58:23
  was so much more personal. It wasn't in a huge bank Aarin on New
• 58:30
  York. Yeah, yeah, with eighteen speakers and whatever. But I did
• 58:37
  love when they ordered and she's like, what's so fat? I'll take a
• 58:40
  cheeseburger, but then without the bread, and then yeah, Emily's like,
• 58:45
  oh a loaf. And then at the end, Shannon, it just the
• 58:49
  scene ends. They're eating the bread. I think, buttering it if I'm
• 58:54
  not fluttering. She is like, well let me that I don't have I
• 59:00
  have a bun on my burger, so might as well perfect perfect. Oh
• 59:06
  god, yeah, And I like that Emily scene. I like that.
• 59:09
  Emily did co sign with Shannon saying like, I you know, I agree
• 59:17
  that I don't like that Heather's insinuating all this stuff, you know, meaning
• 59:22
  like agreeing with Shannon that she's saying, I don't like that, and she
• 59:27
  apologized she cares about her and now they're in a good place and I and
• 59:30
  I like that it ended that way. That was good. But what a
• 59:35
  absolute journey. Oh my gosh. We didn't talk about Emily's event, the
• 59:40
  twenty twenty two Exonerate gala for the Innocence Project, which was great, really
• 59:45
  beautiful to see, and we got to see some of the people that were
• 59:52
  exoneries and heard a little bit of their stories. The double Murder death Row
• 59:58
  and like finally the murderer can fest and like I just can't even you just
• 1:00:02
  can't imagine, You just can't imagine. And what a great pause. I
• 1:00:08
  mean, yes, this is Emily using her skill set. I also felt
• 1:00:15
  she knew all three eggonneries that we were introduced to. It didn't feel like,
• 1:00:21
  oh, they're showing up on a data shoot, and like she knew
• 1:00:24
  them, she knew their stories. There was a level of comfort between them,
• 1:00:28
  and I was like, oh, this is real, this is she's
• 1:00:30
  in this program and great, you know, well, Shannon being Jacqueline Hyde
• 1:00:37
  and having that accusation. It just all she had everyone on the cast co
• 1:00:43
  signing that she does this. She calls and she drunk dials and then she
• 1:00:46
  talks stuff and then she doesn't remember and doesn't admit it and doesn't hold it,
• 1:00:52
  isn't accountable for what she said. So there's definitely some truth to that.
• 1:00:55
  I mean, that's obvious. So we have an issue there. She's
• 1:01:00
  got to stop calling people period when. But I wonder if this will lead
• 1:01:06
  to a little bit of a reality check with her drinking, because you know,
• 1:01:10
  I mean that that can get scary if you don't know what you're saying
• 1:01:14
  when you're drinking and you find out later that's that's scary when you're on a
• 1:01:19
  reality show. Yeah, I think, yeah, some changes need to be
• 1:01:24
  made here. So well, I mean, and we have to remember Amy
• 1:01:29
  they're broken up right now. I don't know if that we do need to
• 1:01:32
  remember that, but I needed to you seem to have it, you know,
• 1:01:36
  I just will say her and John are done. Yeah, but they're
• 1:01:39
  together all the time right now, Like he was at trace a migas the
• 1:01:43
  other night, you know, I mean there is Yeah, they're like and
• 1:01:45
  she was asked in the the audience member asked, are you and John like
• 1:01:50
  together, and she said, no, we're just friends, so you know
• 1:01:53
  whatever that means. They but they coexist all the time together, they have
• 1:01:58
  a relationship whatever that is. Wow. Wow, did he look happy to
• 1:02:04
  be there? Yeah? He was really enjoying the show and he's very really
• 1:02:08
  yes, because I was at the same table, but just long, you
• 1:02:13
  know, back further back, so I had eyes on him, and oh
• 1:02:15
  god, you did have eyes. Okay, so you know, interesting.
• 1:02:21
  I don't know. I'm not in there. I'm not in there, so
• 1:02:23
  I don't really know. I don't want to saw what you saw. You
• 1:02:27
  saw what you saw something and you received something and it was positive. M
• 1:02:32
  m. Okay. Eddie was there too. Taylor was there with her husband,
• 1:02:43
  and her husband is not on the show, really, I don't think.
• 1:02:45
  So no, yeah, that you know again a friend of It's a
• 1:02:50
  little different, right right. Yeah. Well I'm really orienting myself. Okay,
• 1:02:53
  got it. Well, is there anything else that we need to talk
• 1:02:58
  about before we left? I mean, oh yeah, yeah, so many.
• 1:03:02
  I'm just gonna you know, skim my notes and see if there's anything
• 1:03:07
  important. But I thought it was an amazing I mean when Shanna said I'm
• 1:03:12
  out stop filming this, I'm out and she left. Several times, I
• 1:03:15
  thought this taco party is not going to happen. I mean it really did,
• 1:03:19
  so I was shocked that it ended up happening. That was amazing.
• 1:03:23
  Yeah. One thing I will say, and this has been rattling around in
• 1:03:30
  my brain for quite some time, Heather. I go through it with Heather.
• 1:03:38
  I really do. Now. I think she's having personally a tough season
• 1:03:43
  because she's on the firing lines. But I think I'm enjoying her more this
• 1:03:45
  season. I'm finding her just a lot easier to receive than last season,
• 1:03:52
  where I found her very obnoxious and throwing her money in a way that was
• 1:03:58
  just outrageous. Okay. What I think I've really come to is Heather has
• 1:04:05
  been playing the role of a rich woman. Wow. Oh that's I need
• 1:04:14
  to settle with that. I need to s sy with it for a little
• 1:04:18
  bit, like this is the this literally sym with it for a little bit
• 1:04:23
  because I do think that she I do think she's a great mom, and
• 1:04:29
  I think that's authentic. Okay, but in terms of this way she is,
• 1:04:36
  pardon me, I just think she's playing a part like in a sitcom
• 1:04:45
  of what you would do if you were, like, you're very wealthy,
• 1:04:47
  and she was like, and she does and she does her Meisner and she
• 1:04:54
  has been for the last however many years playing that role. And I think
• 1:05:00
  this move over to the Penthouse, even though ironically it's to play roles,
• 1:05:05
  she will let go of the role a little bit of playing the part of
• 1:05:14
  a rich person. M wow, I want to say, I mean not
• 1:05:23
  just really, that's just a lot to take in. So and by default
• 1:05:29
  she's playing the role of a rich person on a reality show, Like she
• 1:05:31
  knows that that's her spot. She knows that that's her character. This is
• 1:05:35
  my character for this show. This is the gig, and I'm going to
• 1:05:39
  play that character. Yeah, And I imagine she's been playing that that character
• 1:05:45
  has did not show up for the reality show because I think when she sort
• 1:05:50
  of like put the acting hat down, she picked up she never put it
• 1:05:57
  down. She just picked up the character of a rich person. And so
• 1:06:01
  yeah, that's just that that really settles me with her because it's it's really
• 1:06:08
  campy at the end of the day. Oh god, I love that.
• 1:06:12
  Yeah, Okay, Wow, I'm trying to think of another example of another
• 1:06:19
  housewife that that leans into that like a caricature. And I will and I'm
• 1:06:26
  gonna say, sonya interesting because I think a lot of it is. Oh
• 1:06:33
  and Kathy Hilton, because she's so quirky and it's a it's real, but
• 1:06:42
  it's all so fake. It's also she does Who's honky Dory? Girl?
• 1:06:46
  Please? You know, like that's not real? But other things, but
• 1:06:50
  other things are like I need my cheese, seeds and a fan. You
• 1:06:55
  know that's real, but like Who's honky Dory? Not real? You know,
• 1:07:00
  Kyle, I thought you were Kyle real? You know, Oh you
• 1:07:08
  can't. You went out for that whatever? That laughter not real? She
• 1:07:12
  as seeds, Oh gus seeds, she is seeds real. The hunky Doory
• 1:07:16
  not real? Uh? The Kyle I thought you were Kyle totally real.
• 1:07:23
  The video of her falling on the beach, you know, dancing and then
• 1:07:26
  falling not real. You know, there there are It's like Paris Hilton.
• 1:07:30
  You know, she has this character. Yes, and when you have a
• 1:07:35
  character, you it's part of who you are naturally, but you can exaggerate
• 1:07:40
  it for the great, for you know, for it to really people.
• 1:07:45
  So I think like what you're saying, and I I, you know,
• 1:07:48
  I might be coming on board, which is that there are people like a
• 1:07:51
  Sonya, a Kathy Hilton and Heather du Bro that have these, you know,
• 1:07:57
  attributes and these characteristics that are so unique and so specific to themselves that
• 1:08:02
  they have something, they have a gift. So why would you not almost
• 1:08:06
  exploit that for the greater good of the show and for your for you,
• 1:08:11
  for a storyline, and for a character, and to make it more entertaining.
• 1:08:15
  So yeah, I think that's interesting. Yeah, And I think I
• 1:08:18
  always felt like with with Heather Rich can't be your personality. It's not enough.
• 1:08:25
  You can't Rich Rich isn't a personality, you know. And when I
• 1:08:31
  decided that it was actually a role, I'm like, oh, she's overdoing
• 1:08:36
  her role. This is this is what you would do for a you know,
• 1:08:43
  you you know WB sitcom. This is how you would approach the role.
• 1:08:47
  Wow. Yeah, I can't argue with that. Absolutely. Wow.
• 1:08:54
  Oh my god. Okay, this is exciting. I think this is really
• 1:08:57
  cool. Like we could do a whole other option podcast about this. Love
• 1:09:00
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• 1:09:04
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