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VPR Reunion 3 with Jaime Moyer & Call-ins · Drama, Darling: A Real Housewives Comedy Podcast

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Drama Darling. Drama Darling, Drama Darling. Welcome back to Drama Darling.
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It's me and Mey Phillips, and today, or shall I say tonight,
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we are going to be talking about the explosive or non explosive reunion Part three
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of vander Pump Rules. Just a reminder, Tomorrow will be Orange County premiere
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recap and a bonus episode will be up on Friday as well. I'm going
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to be doing a recap of Hulu's documentary The Queen Maker Making of an It
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the other episodes you don't hear throughout the week, plus bonus material. Okay,
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you know what, Typically I serve up a little dish about what's going
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on in the Bravo universe, but today we're skipping right over dish to watch
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this serving. No, we're not doing that right now. Okay, we
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are going to jump right into the recap. Joining me is my bestie Jamie
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Moyer. Hi James, is this skipping dish? Oh? I like your
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piano dil do Jamels. I like how you changed your name on your uh
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your photo to say, uh James, James, Jame of all, yeah,
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it was a bit. Did it land Oh, it landed, It
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landed. Today you and I are going to be talking about vander Pump rules.
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We're also going to be taking some calls. Some of the darlings are
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going to be on line shortly. Okay, all right, deep cleansing,
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breath in and out. Here's an owl hoot just to kind of, you
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know, really set the tone. Okay, put us in the forest glamping.
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Let's say, oh my god, Okay, Jamie, here we are.
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Here we are the third episode, and after all the hubbub, after
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all of the Vanity Fair articles and the Hollywood Reporter articles, we've all waited
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for that last five minutes, which it really came in at the very very
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end, because it was an extra fifteen minutes. Raquel's confession was what we
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were all waiting to hear. Essentially, it was not the big reveal I
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thought it was going to be. However, I need to pivot out of
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that and get into what we actually saw but I was disappointed because I thought
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it was going to be something really rock, really wild, and I thought
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it was going to be something more related to the whole cast, possibly saying,
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you know what, I'm not going to take that almost million dollar contract
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because this is just so, so so scandalous. But it wasn't that at
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all, was it. No, it was more about the timeline, and
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it was more about learning that Raquel showed some emotion and some remorse. So
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that was the part that I was happy about. Disappointed with the fact that
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we didn't get more of a reveal. It was not the twist I was
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expecting, Jamie. Was it the twist you were expecting? Now? It
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was not the twist I was expecting. It was still very interesting. My
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jaw was on t floor, and the whole episode was unbelievably uncomfortable to watch
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and upset and very entertaining and wild, and that last five minus and it's
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yeah, maybe it was. It was not the crim Breulet to the steak.
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But it was a dish of ice cream. Okay, it was a
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dish. It was definitely a dish. Why because you're saying that we finally
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got confirmation that she was protecting Tom this whole time, and he's trying to
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tell her to lie for him, and now she's like, I'm sick of
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lying. This is killing my soul. I hate lying, I hate being
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deceitful. And she was basically afraid to say anything because Tom was her only
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friend left. I get all that, but you need to understand that the
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truth shall set you free. And I still am not sure I believed everything
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she said in the last five minutes, oh, one hundred percent. No.
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I the fact that he was like the producer saying, well, okay,
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so you're basically saying it's the second time was in Mexico. There were
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multiple times in Mexico inginging, and then he's like, what about the jacuzzie
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And she's like, I can't recall. Why are you bothering to tell us
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one thing and not the other? That's what's so infuriating. Yeah, very
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bizarre. And then to say, oh, did you go to Saint Louis.
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No, and then she gets that look of like I'm lying. I
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mean you can literally see it turn on and off. And then they show
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the picture of her in Saint Louis with Tom. It's it's it's really something
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it's frankly disturbing. It's very disturbing. Her Denemer, her Deneimer, and
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her demeanor. Her demeanor is disturbing. I don't know that we'll ever fully
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know the truth, but you can attest and I'm sure your darlings know.
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I texted you. I'm like, what's the timeline. I had a beautiful
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mind piece of paper trying to figure things out. I was I'm on two
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separate DPR threads, and so at least for confirmation about Mexico and that it's
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going on and on, which is what I suspected, which we yes,
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which we all suspected. So that's why this was not a bombshell. But
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anyway, we go ahead, and it was. It was a confirmation that
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we this one time after the Mandria. No right, Tom says it was
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one time. Oh that's so laughable. It's like ridiculously even, oh one
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time, right, and not a house. Let's oh mommy. And the
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line determined was a lie. I love it. She was like, we
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wanted to just Tom wanted to lie because it wasn't a good look to And
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it was like this on top of that, on top of this, on
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top of that that I had sex with my best friend's boyfriend in their house
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when she was out of town at a funeral. You know, like it
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was just like one thing after another and oh my god and that. But
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to say all of those details and then to not say, yeah, we
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had sex and the jacuzzi night, It is so bizarre to me. If
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you're coming clean, you're coming clean. But maybe it's just baby steps.
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I think she's certainly shell shocked obviously at this point. I mean at the
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reunion she was shell shocked. Six days later, she's starting to like lift
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the fog, probably because she can't see him anymore, because it's so scan,
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so contentious. I mean, has got to be. As a fan
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of Bravo, this has got to be the biggest scandal. I thought you
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couldn't top Phedra and Candy, Oh right, and then Kristen and Jacks.
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You know, this is the Dali Lama, the Dali Lama. I don't
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know what. This is a big one. This is the mountain, This
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is the the the the the Dolly Wold of like Dollywood, of Dollywood parts.
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We should have come up with our metaphors ahead of time. But this
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is the hot fudge on the Sunday of reality television because you know why,
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why are boyeires who were able to watch two people think they were smarter than
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the producers and the other the rest of casts and everyone else. It is
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diabolical. It's nuts that they thought they could get away with this. And
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I am I've heard you say on this show and I agree with you,
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and and other people have said, I don't think that Rachel should be on
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a reality TV show. I think it's a dangerous place for someone like her.
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Yes, because this is a world, worldwide web of a life out
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here, and you got to be careful. It's the world, it's the
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www dot whatever, you know, it's really truly it's something because well that's
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that's also the thing is you've got people on reality television and who have issues,
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okay, and that's what makes them good reality stars. Narcissistic or sociopathic
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behaviors, you know, combine in a thunderbolt world in which it has created
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some of the greatest reality television we've all seen. I mean, the ratings
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are sky high. It's brought people together we have called to hate, you
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know what I mean, We were brought together to hate. And I would
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like to get into a little bit of you know, how our emotions or
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how our feelings have evolved after we've seen Raquel speak. But before we do
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that, Jamie, we have a couple callers on the line. Bring them
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in, bring them in more than merrier. We've been through this so I
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can sleep tonight. We got to bring him in. Okay, we got
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Meghan from Portland. Who's coming in? What's up? Megan? Hi?
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Amy, Hi Jamie, Hi Megan. I think back to you, and
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I love Portland. I used to be in the Pearl. I did a
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play in the Portland area in the Pearl. Oh awesome, lovely. I
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love it. Yeah, fun, oh Megan. Okay, thoughts on the
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last five minutes. First, where was your head when you saw this twist?
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I am in complete agreement. The only thing that that I don't think
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it was a twist. I think it was something we all expected, we
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all knew was coming. For me. It was confirmation that Sandoval is a
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narcissist and a manipulator. And yeah, that's kind of where I landed on
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it. He has been pulling strings. M hm. He's pulling the strings.
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That was really something because when Raqueal's basically saying like sandobal like she sounds
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like she's scared of him, like he wanted to do this, he wanted
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he roped her in. I mean there have been terms like grooming. You
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know, I don't know if that's exactly appropriate for this situation, but it
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seems like you took advantage of her. She took advantage of the situation.
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But I want to well, let's bring our other colera in, shall we.
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I mean, let's get him all in here, right, yeah,
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in here, let's get this started. Okay, We're okay, We're bringing
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in Emily from from Seattle. Hi, Emily, welcome, Darling welcome.
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Okay, So what are your thoughts in the last five minutes? I agree,
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I feel like there's like layers of lies and like we didn't really believe
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any of it, and then you still don't believe what she's saying. So
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it's kind of like there still seems to be more to be revealed, more
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to be revealed. And I said this, I don't know weeks ago,
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but I said, I think one day, Raquel will, you know,
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sing like a canary. She will, she will come out with a lot
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of truth and she'll make a lot of money from it, because she'll go
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on a great interview. She'll probably go and call her daddy and she'll make
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a ton of money and she'll say, we lied about this, We led
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about that we were together. At That's why I broke off the engagement with
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James. Yes, don't forget I I talked to you off Mike about Prince.
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Yes, the starting all the way back at uh that uh, that
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night that James was texting her all night long and she wasn't answering yes,
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yes, the girl's night yes, And she said it was I was just
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with the girls. My phone was in my purse on the counter. I
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was asleep. I was so drunk. Which all these stories start with that.
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Okay, so does everyone remember this. And he was texting her he
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bitch, wake up. Well he did, James, and he slut shamed
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her. Yeah, that wasn't nice, terrible. Then I was on her
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side. But there's video. Uh there's video of her with the girls all
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drunk. But then in the video is also he's right. There was a
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TikTok investigator who a whole video and I'm sorry, we don't know that person's
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name, but we thank them, We thank them for I think maybe that's
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when it started. I wouldn't doubt it. And they keep saying like night,
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oh yeah, one time that night and not in the house, and
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there was no jacuzzie and it wasn't in Mexico. And I mean, I
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mean they had a full They're probably engaged. Those thunderbolt necklaces were probably their
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engagement. I mean, yes, if she really, if that really was
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going on that far back, I view her as almost even more diabolical because
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I remember at the end of the last view of the last season's reunion her
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saying like, I'm going to go be an occupational therapist. So I'm going
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to go off the show. I'm going to chase these dreams. I instantly
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got on Instagram and followed her because I'm like, I want to see where
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she ends up. I respected herself, yes, for that decision. So
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I mean, like that boggles my mind because that just puts another lens around,
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like was that all manipulative on her? God? Oh god, Well,
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maybe it was emotional before it got physical, and that was a that's
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a TikTok theory, and perhaps it's way out of out of out of uh
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left field. But I think an emotional connection between them could have started quite
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some time ago. Yes, And when Tom says, well, and he
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says when did it start? And he said January? Maybe, Uh,
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you might. If you're gonna seriously lie, you're gonna need to be a
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little more confident, you like, h maybe with uh like like like maybe
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January maybe, like you know, like I don't, I don't understand.
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Why are you He's like probably waiting for someone to cut him off and be
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like, no, it was actually because he's now he's afraid to lie.
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What did you guys think about finding out that Raquel made a proposition to Tom
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about being a thrupple. Oh, that would have solved all the problems.
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I would have solved all her problems. It really would have, if only
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if Arianna would have been up for it. I love how well Tom does
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know Ariana. He was she was like and Tom was like, uh,
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yeah, no that way. Yeah. I was like, they see it.
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I don't really think that she liked it. Uh she would. Arianna
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would not go for that. She did think that was so stupid. Just
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say she thinks I'm stupid? Whatever? Oh yeah, what do you mean
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her too? Like I thought maybe it could be this like she's in a
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rom com or something right as it's Banoni. Yes, she thought she was.
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Yeah, she thinks she's in a complete other She's in a whole other
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world. Yeah. I mean points to her for trying to problem solve and
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her being like just trying to simplify the situation. Well, I really like
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Tom and I really like Ariana, so it just makes sense kind of.
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I guess then you could just move into that guest room that you guys have
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been having sex and we all know it. God, but I feel like
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it just shows that he wasn't gonna be with her as like a real option.
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Like it just makes me think about when he left Kristen Forriana. Arianna
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was like the next phase, right, Yeah, you didn't see her as
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a respectable option. She was like the extra and she was almost admitting that,
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and I thought that was something really interesting. So I came out today
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it was like it was that they were presenting as a couple. It was
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like she was just there and the throutle thing sort of was part of that.
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Interesting. So she's kind of like another one of Tom Sandoval and the
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extras, Like she's just an extra in there. She hey that that could
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be a problem. That could be a problem solving situation. She could just
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join the extra. Yeah, she could be like, you know, schwick
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tea, mom has got it going. I'll take good as gold every time.
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Oh my god. Okay, how Jamie, how did you feel when
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she was crying and she was saying that she this is killing her soul and
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that she doesn't want to lie anymore. Did that change anything for you?
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No? And it's odd because usually when people cry on TV, even like
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the littlest thing, I get choked up to like, you know, but
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this whole thing has just got I just watch it like I'm watching a fender
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bender or something. I'm like, like, it just feels. So.
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I do think they got caught up, and I don't think they thought what
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they were doing and all those things they're saying to defend themselves. I do
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believe that. I really think they couldn't have thought, especially her when she's
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saying, well, what about your relationship with him? Everything she was doing
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and by the way, I want to say, are doing this kind of
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crazy shit. In every town in America, there's all kinds of weird cheating
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and there's people sleeping with their husband's sisters, and you know what I'm saying,
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like it's it's not the first thing we've heard of, but on TV
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they have cameras following them everywhere they go, so so it's like they betrayed
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us. It's really it's personal for us, right, it is personal for
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us. We feel you know I liked Sandibal, Oh me too, I
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know. Oh it's just crazy and now it just makes you feel bonkers because
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you're like, how did I not pick this person out of this cast and
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say this is trouble? Like that's what's so crazy about this situation for us
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as viewers were going, how did we not see this? Like all these
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years? And then we have someone like Jack's saying like, yeah, I
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saw it. It was like he's always been like this. He's always been
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like this. I've been telling you guys for years, and you're like,
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ye're telling us what But I don't get it, Like what did you see
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that? We didn't see it? We didn't see it on camera. So
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I would be interested to go back and try to look for these things.
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But like he is so good at presenting himself as obviously like narcissists are,
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and that's that is what is really the kapper here, is that he is
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a narcissist, throw and through when he cried at the reunion, now the
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second time, when he tried it, attempted this at the very end,
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when essentially Andy was saying like last words, you know, and he was
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like, I know you hate me, and I'll just be wishing you.
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I'll be cheering you on from afar. Well, the way that he cried
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hit me and struck me to my core because I have been in a relationship
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with a narcissist long ago, and let me tell you that that was so
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eerily familiar to me, that breakdown that it shook, It was so and
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I rarely ever used this word, but it was one of the most triggering
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thing in a long time. Yes, I'm sure that a lot of people
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have seen that too, but there's just something about the way that a narcissist
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can pull off that breakdown in a drop of a hat and have those tears
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and make it look like they're so remorseful because they're pulling from something deep,
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dark and somewhat real, but they can. But then you notice how he
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was snapping and insulting her about the T shirt comment about their having sex,
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and I could not to go from that to saying that comment to breaking down
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and crying, You're beyond, You're beyond a narcissist like that is horrible human
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behavior and that is what sticks out like a sore thrum. Now we see
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it, you know. And Arianna didn't buy it, not a second,
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not a tear for him, not a quiver. Maggie, what were you
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gonna say about the T shirt thing? Oh? As to say, it's
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him trying to be the good guy despite his actions. The T shirt got
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me on a level as well, because she has talked about her struggles with
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intimacy. He utilized something that was so deep embedded for her and through it
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at her in one of the most disgusting ways I have ever seen I have
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also, I was also very triggered by his fake emotion in a sense like
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he's trying to be a good guy despite what he's done. And so that
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T shirt and fear. I think that was the comment Andy was talking about
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when he said every woman in America is going to be livid about that.
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I think that was that comment. Yes, yes, yes, you made
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such a good point that not only is it upsetting for all of us as
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women or human beings for that matter, but specifically to what Ariana has shared
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on the show, and has not only that, but has shared with Raquel,
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you know. And I really felt like he took a shot at her,
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He took a shot at humiliating her, because he's now been humili time
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and time again at this point, because after all this came out, you
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know, the press, everyone in the world is crucifying him. And I
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can't remember. A couple of people made some comments about how Arianna was humiliated,
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and she made it very correct that she said, I am not humiliated.
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They are humiliated. And I thought that was such a great point and
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such a great you know, slam on them for lack of a better word,
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because I would feel humiliated, you know, and she's putting it back
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on them. And I was like, that is such a coming from such
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a place of strength. I I don't know if I'd be able to have
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that perspective. And I really I loved that, and I think that he
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resents that. And you know, not only does he resent the fact that
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she's getting so much attention in such a good way, you know what I
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mean, Like she's she's how many commercials did we see tonight? You know
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of her? I'm like, oh, that's her. She's in the movie
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Avatar, Like that's her behind that makeup, Like you know, she's in
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everything right now. She is the moment. She's moment. She is the
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moment. But anyway, moving on to Tom's last words, I know you
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hate me. I'll be cheering you on from afar. That narcissistic crying was
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horrible to watch, and then Ariana being like, well, I will not
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forgive him and I will not be cheering him on from a bar I was
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amazing, along with some of her other comments. But I would like to
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talk about a lot of Ariana's firing at Raquel and Tom the whole time,
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Megan, what do you think about Arianna basically really handed them their ass.
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I loved it. I loved every second of it. I work with a
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lot of women who have been in trauma experiences, and one of my favorite
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things to do is to kind of help them grab a hold of their anger.
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And to see somebody be able to have anger and express themselves in a
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way that match to their feeling was so awesome. I think also I had
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written this doubt and I had to cross it out at the end. But
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one of the things I really like about Arianna is that she also she kind
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of holds her values true in her interactions and in her life. And up
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until her comment in the reunion, I hadn't heard her slut shame at all
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or use the word whore. She did it one time, so I'll never
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pass from that. Yeah, But I really liked how she owned her feelings
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and she expressed them in a way that found true to her, and I
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thought that was absolutely amazing. I know you already have a bitch therapist.
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I am a therapist as well. Oh hey, we can never get enough
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bitch therapists up in the darlings. Are you kidding me? Right now?
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On the Patreon you've spoken to a therapist about all of this, Like,
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like, we need to bring in some professionals. This is out of my
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pay grade. When Andy asked if they were in love okay, and Raquel
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said yes? And Andy asked, Tom, you are in love? And
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he obviously was that long dramatic what he thought was an Oscar winning pause.
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What about Andy? And Andy looking down? I can't even Andy delivering the
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question. I mean that is yours? Barbara Walters, Barbara, I mean
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it really was, Aunt Tom, you are in love. It was all
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of us. He couldn't even look at me. Yeah. The camera panning
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to Arianna, I'm like, am I watching like gone with the window?
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Is the camera work? Is the drama? Oh? My god? Yes?
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And you know, are you buddy? Come on now? I'm sorry?
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Yes? And then Ariana grody oh? And then Ariana really wait?
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What did you say? Megan? She went high and low. I think
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that's what I loved about it. She went all up and down that ladder,
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and I loved it. Well. One of the things that I did
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like about Arianna saying her piece was that she really represents all of us who
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have been so wrong, who have been so betrayed, who had been backstabbed
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and bamboozled, if you will, and so and so many of us never
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get the opportunity ever to confront the enemy, to confront the betrayer and say
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what we what we say in the shower that we would think that we would
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say to them, We practice in the mirror that we're in the car and
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we're driving in we were like, and we say this to them, And
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then Cam I wish I could have said that, or I wish I would
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have said this. We don't get that opportunity. And she did tenfold for
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an entire day. She could think of something and come back and say it.
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And so she can leave there with a lot of peace and with a
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you know, with no stone unturned, no insult unturned, if you will
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and have a little bit of closure, Yes, Jamie. And what about
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the first day, the day that the thing dropped on March second, cameras
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are back at the house on March third. Can I get you any what
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do you want for you to die? Remember that day? For you to
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die? I mean, I don't give up the fuck your friendship. Let's
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rock out. It's bullshit. No it's not yes as, No, it's
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not. No, it's not no, it's not oh ass. We lift
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each other up, we give each other confidence. Okay, I can't wear
27:40
it. You will never speak to me again. This is your last chance.
27:45
No. Sometimes I make fruit loop necklaces and she likes them. Okay,
27:53
you never say anything about it. Okay, I want to ride or
27:59
die. I told you your stupid necklaces were adorable. Top you start up
28:03
a bench, but not this months anyway your white nail polish. Oh Jamie.
28:15
Jamie was on the ground floor of that joke, because when was it
28:22
the Lala video that I did? It was the Laala video in the hair
28:29
salon. Okay, yeah, so Jamie literally was the mastermind behind the writing
28:34
of that video, and so we're basically writing it over texts, and then
28:38
she writes me the line you're only with You're only with raqual so that you
28:45
can split your white nail polish polish budget. Thank you, thank you,
28:52
thank you, thank you. Now getting back to Ariana's you know, real
28:56
slams, it was tough to watch on a humane level. Okay, you
29:02
can't be a lot, you can't be alive and not feel bad for Raquel
29:07
when arian is saying you're nothing, let that sink in. You're rotten,
29:12
your dementor you know, like yeah, all those things. But and then
29:19
when Raquel is leaving and James is like, good leave, we don't want
29:22
you, and they're all like boot. You know, it was it was
29:27
really really hard to watch. And if you're soulless, you probably didn't give
29:32
a shit. But I think all of us, probably on one level,
29:37
felt a little something like I would not want that to be me, you
29:41
know, right, agreed? It was. I'm telling you when I say
29:44
I watched it with the car wreck face, yeah, it was. In
29:48
fact, just yesterday, driving down Burbank Boulevard, I happened upon, just
29:52
moments before a small fender bender, and somehow I ended up right beside them,
29:59
and my window was down, and I got to hear them fighting and
30:02
arguing and were you on your phone? And they saw me and I saw
30:06
them and they were taking pictures. The look on my face when I witnessed
30:10
that fender bender was the exact look on my face for one hour and fifteen
30:14
minutes tonight, including the commercials, I was just like, ah, like
30:18
it's it was hard to watch. It was hard to watch. And I
30:23
agree with you, Amy, I think you know no matter we all we
30:26
love TV, we love reality. That was brutal, and not that she
30:32
didn't deserve to say, not that they don't all write here that she deserves
30:36
to say her piece. She was and that The other thing was too,
30:40
is that re Arianna never got the opportunity to say anything to Raquel. She
30:45
only texted her lunch, which is you're dead to me. You know,
30:49
she never got a chance to confront her. She had many times probably to
30:55
talk and say things to Tom on camera and off camera. Yeah, so
31:00
I think she probably said some pretty horrible things to him. Absolutely, But
31:06
you know, if if Raquel had more emotion sitting there, we probably would
31:12
have felt worse. But she doesn't. And that's why we were able to
31:15
like digest it and say, yeah, get your piece, get what you
31:19
need, you know, Ariana, because she she can take it, you
31:23
know, because I don't know if it's penetrating in there apparently, and they're
31:29
in the they're in the dressing room laughing like that was rough sickles, wasn't
31:33
it? Sure was, buddy, I'm like, what is going on?
31:37
I know? It was like it was like the locker room after a football
31:41
game that they lost, where they're trying to laugh it off. What were
31:45
they laughing about, like, oh, we help, we'll have a common
31:48
enemy in we'll have an enemy in common. Why did they say say to
31:51
something about Ali? I couldn't even follow it. I was in shock.
31:53
I was like, is this the final five minutes where they start laughing about
31:57
how they they pulled one over on everybody? For a second, I was
32:00
like, oh, my god, is this a lie? No, it
32:05
is not a lie. I had that thought too when it was did in
32:07
that direction, I did. I was like, where are we going?
32:10
What is happening right now? Yeah? She and I found it interesting that
32:15
the only time she really showed a lot of remorse was when she was with
32:17
Standibal. That's the only time we saw tears. That's the only time we
32:21
saw There was also something she kept saying that really irked me. She kept
32:24
saying this year, I'm focused on pleasing myself. I don't think she was.
32:29
I think she was focused on pleasing Standabal. Yes girl, No,
32:34
Megan, Emily, what are your thoughts on that? Yeah? I think
32:38
there was a lot of she's just doing what he wants. Yeah, like
32:43
that. That was interesting, the whole idea of like, oh, I
32:45
used to please everybody, but now I please myself. But then it's like,
32:49
but then your lying sneaking around to doingying. Like it's not like she
32:52
won, she didn't win the beauty pageant. What did she win? She's
32:55
having to sneak out of town, right right, A sneak out of town?
33:00
Yeah, and lives are you know? It's the bounce back on this
33:05
is going to be real rough. And one thing I was thinking about when
33:08
you were saying, we don't often get the chance to cuss people out in
33:12
life, and Lord knows I have shaken that yn out, but I maybe
33:19
it's for the better. Yeah, I'm sure, and I will say this
33:22
and this is the truth, and all three of you know it too.
33:27
Time does heal all? Now? Are these people going to be friends again?
33:31
No? I don't think so, but but put some time on anything.
33:35
Now. When I say time, it could be years and years and
33:38
years. But you do wake up and that's not your first thought. And
33:43
we all know that because we've all been through some shit. So this is
33:46
some raw The thing happened. I do know this. On timeline March second,
33:52
March third was bring the cameras back. Reunion was March twenty third.
33:55
I think those are my dates. So I think you're talking once he one
34:00
days from the reveal to the reunion. That's not even a month to sit
34:07
in this. That's that's some raw, raw, raw emotions. It is.
34:12
It absolutely is. And thank god that they put those cameras up because
34:15
we need to see these reactions right quick. You know what I thought was
34:21
really really shocking is to hear Andy say it seemed like this was really diabolical
34:29
on behalf of Raquel, because I mean, he's seen it all and for
34:35
him to say that says a lot too. Lisa said the same thing.
34:38
Lisa was like, it is a bonical Well, you know, it was
34:45
really funny about Lisa, well, a couple of things. But when they
34:49
started talking about Tom dressing up as Raquel for Halloween, oh yeah, she
34:52
got upset at that. That was the thing she was the most upset about,
34:55
which was hilarious because I mean, and she should because Arianna says,
35:02
yeah, after we had sex. I mean, I'm sorry, after they
35:07
had sex, he dressed up like her for Halloween. She's like, I
35:10
got you kidding me? Yeah, and I helped. And this was the
35:14
first time she had learned that he dressed up like her, so she was
35:16
like, after you had sex, why would you do that? I mean,
35:21
I've never seen Lisa actually make that gross face before she was disgusted.
35:25
I was like, thank god, you've clocked in, because she really was
35:30
more piping in for Sandoval the last two episodes, you know, the last
35:36
two reunions, she finally came to terms with having Arianna's back this time,
35:42
and for calling out Raquel, I do feel like it was a little you
35:45
know, I'm glad that she said something because Ariana needed to see her stick
35:50
up for her, and I'm glad that she was disgusted by Tom and his
35:53
actions. But more importantly, I don't know if any of you noticed,
35:58
but at the very beginning of this reunion there was a real shout out to
36:04
Nicolaine and his chandeliers, Nicolay, Nicolay Nicolayne, which you all know I'm
36:08
obsessed with. So they were hanging right there on the reunion set in all
36:14
of their glory, shall I say, or perhaps non glory. Some people
36:21
have issues with the decor and the design of them, but I will.
36:25
I delight in them, and I love their companionship. I love that mashup.
36:31
Before we go any further with Jamie Moyer and our callers, we're going
36:36
to take a little break, Okay. Can we talk about how Schwartz was
36:47
horrified by his own self by watching himself kiss on TV? But also I
36:55
want to say something about that moment Schwartz was so hard trying to bring in
37:00
like an old school reunion moment, even when things get tense. Usually at
37:05
a reunion, you can make jokes, and his jokes were falling, like
37:10
like, is that what I look like when I kiss put me up and
37:14
put me to bed? And everyone was like shut the hell, quelle idiot,
37:17
boo boom, shame everyone on the left. But everyone on the left.
37:22
Their jokes were killing, killing Sipo head's supposed to be You're gonna go
37:30
get live in a poopoo house. Him and James at times felt like the
37:36
kids trying to join in on the adult conversation. I agree. I mean,
37:43
but let's talk about Laala, because you know, she went really hard
37:47
on Santaval and she went really hard on Raquel obviously, and you know,
37:53
I think it was their place regardless of what's gone on with Laala in terms
38:00
of her being slightly hypocritical in moments where it's like, you know, someone
38:06
who's going that hard in on Raquel and Tom should have like a blameless record,
38:12
They should have a flawless record behind them. I'm sorry, thank you.
38:15
Unblemish not blameless just left the nunnery and started working at pump. Yes,
38:22
so I have to look past her record and say go get them,
38:28
Go get them, girl, because somebody needs to, you know, on
38:30
that left side of the room. They you know, they have to take
38:35
up for Arianna. And I mean, Katie's not she's you know, she's
38:39
not gonna do it. She's gonna say something to Schwartz every once in a
38:42
while, but that's about it. No, Lala was fire and she's the
38:45
same. I'd want in my corner. I'd want Lala and James as friends.
38:50
I'd love to hang out with them. And oh my god, absolutely,
38:52
well, what did you think about? This is where our things got
38:55
off to the wrong start because Raquel with her argument saying you weren't getting attention
39:00
from James when we were dating, so that's why you didn't like me.
39:06
And you can't talk. You and La La and James. You guys can't
39:09
talk because you guys fucked when we were together. So you guys can't say
39:15
anything. It's like, no, they're going to say a lot. You
39:17
better listen the way. Oh I miss ye say it again, Emily,
39:27
I said, I've got Sandeval told her to say that. That seems part
39:32
of the coaching session, part of the note cards, part of the football
39:37
board, the square. Also, I just want to say that that's regular
39:45
reunion ship. This is not a normal situation that's some Housewives of Orange County
39:51
or a previous VPR reunion. We're in a different place. So Raquel trying
39:54
to make points like that that would work on any other reunion, but on
40:00
this one it falls flat. My dear, all you can do is say,
40:04
I'm sorry, yeah, I mean, it came too late. She
40:08
shouldn't have ever even brought that up. I mean, it's completely the fact
40:13
that she can't see that's a totally different scenario. We don't even need to
40:16
exhaust our breath rehashing how different of a scenario it actually is. When later
40:22
we find out that you are at Shenanigan's wedding and you see a drunk sand
40:30
of all quote unquote walking down the hallway, Uh huh, and you just
40:34
happened to grab what like a lost cat, you know, a stray cat
40:37
you pull into your room. That's what happened. That's the lie that he
40:42
told you to say. That's bullshit. Yeah, that's that's inconceivable. Iking
40:50
hallway. We didn't make a plan. Okay, I love it. Shenanigan
40:55
said that, I think it was on her podcast. He said something like,
40:59
I knew something was weird when Lala turned off my location on her,
41:06
because you know, Shenanigans has all locations on everybody, she can follow them,
41:09
and she just like because she wants to keep track of everybody. So
41:15
I love her so much. That'll be interesting because I've seen a couple of
41:19
things pop up that Sheenanagans knew more at some point. I don't know if
41:24
that's true. We didn't get that far obviously. When she was allowed to
41:30
come back in from her trailer back into the reunion, yes, hey,
41:32
I just say, this is you know, the only moment I laughed in
41:37
the entire reunion was Sheena eating like chips and drinking a white claw watching it,
41:44
and I was like, she is every woman and I am she,
41:45
and she is me, and we are us and we are all one in
41:50
the universe. We're all one. Yeah, that was my favorite. She's
41:52
like, this is unbelievable, crunch crunch, Cheetos and whatever the fuck she
41:57
was eating. That was my favorite. I needed it the palate cleanser,
42:00
because think about ladies, think about every reunion we've ever seen. This season,
42:07
we had a divorce and a marriage and a randal, scandal and it
42:10
was the reunion was eighty four percent stand of all with all those other things
42:16
going on. Yeah, pretty bridal. Oh, by the way, on
42:20
the Lala note, I want to say this too, that she has even
42:22
said outside of the show, on interviews and stuff like that that because of
42:27
everything going on with Randall and how traumatizing and how fatiguing and intense that whole
42:31
situation is with him, the scandalal situation has been a distraction, for a
42:37
welcome distraction for her and something for her to focus on. So in many
42:42
ways, I do think that she's certainly projecting a lot of anger onto Raquel
42:47
and to Sandoval that wouldn't normally be there. So she's lit to the heavens,
42:52
you know what I mean. So I will say that that there is
42:55
another level to her rage that it isn't just because of this think that she's
43:00
absolutely projecting. But I also have no problem with it at all, because
43:06
they need to be taken to task, especially Tom. I love that when
43:09
you said that after the reunion one, when you said, uh Laala and
43:15
I feel full or whatever you said, she to play, And I want
43:21
to say that I think that this situation is so horrible, But the winners
43:24
are everyone else. This is making them bigger stars, it's giving them more
43:30
opportunities, it's getting Lalla's mind off of her troubles. It's helping Katie get
43:35
her groove back. James is saying every fucking festival, So these fools,
43:40
why would they do this on television? That's just I always come back to
43:45
that. It's really the stupidest. It's one of the stupidest things that we've
43:49
ever seen. These two people are morons, and and and we have Tom,
43:55
who's really a narcissist. I don't know if if Rakeuela is a sociopath,
44:00
you know, I mean, I know that term has been thrown around
44:04
to be so, like you said, diabolical for so long to one of
44:10
your best friends is a level that you just can't even comprehend as a regular
44:17
person. So you you almost by default have to put her into a category
44:22
of psychosis because you're like, it's too hard to understand or believe. But
44:25
what I will say is that I thought it was interesting that when she was
44:30
apologizing to Ariana, she said she couldn't fathom how she kept this secret from
44:35
Arianna for so long, and that she's so sorry for betraying her, and
44:38
now now she's seen the consequences of her actions, because before she was living
44:45
in the moment. And the one thing that she said that blew my mind
44:47
was she said, I felt seen and heard by Tom. And I never
44:52
confided in Ariana about personal things, but I did with Tom. I think
44:59
you're absolutely right. That's where I think Tom took advantage of her. I
45:02
think that when you want attention and you're a ding dong and doodle leaboo,
45:07
and then and then you have a someone who's that manipulative and he's going everything's
45:14
no, No one's gonna find out. We're going to keep doing this.
45:16
They were flying so close to the sun, but she was believing him.
45:22
And I do believe when she said I thought maybe it would all be okay.
45:24
She really wasn't thinking this through and and that you know, I can't
45:31
say she's blameless, but I've got to put a little more blame on him.
45:35
He's old, I do too, vulnerable place, she's drinking a lot.
45:38
She was having a season of a train wreck. But she was a
45:42
train wreck. She she But but that doesn't mean that she's a good person
45:46
either or a bad person. I don't know. I mean, like I
45:50
also think a person. I don't want to know. She's a bad person.
45:53
But she did a bad thing, and they both did a dirty,
45:58
dirty thing. It was I think that she's got a very low IQ.
46:01
You know that hasn't been really brought up. We keep throwing around like sociopath,
46:06
narcissists, like all these things. But I think one thing that really
46:12
could be a real factor here is that she has a low IQ and she
46:16
cannot comprehend very well. And I'm not trying to very smart La La when
46:22
they went out to the coffee, and I will leave this coffee if you
46:25
say I'm dumb, because I'm not dumb and very smart. So maybe she
46:30
has book smart, but she is not streams smart, sheltered. Maybe I
46:35
just still I would be very interested to know what her IQ level is,
46:38
more than the psychological analysis that apparently she's going to be getting, which La
46:44
La did go low when she said, you know, I hope that you're
46:46
going to be mentally evaluated, And she was like, well, I am,
46:50
but why aren't we asking that of Tom? You know, That's what's
46:52
so crazy about it. It's always it's always the woman and Laala said it.
46:59
But here's the thing that's just like Raquel with the IQ thing is she's
47:01
saying, La La, you said it yourself that you were a mistress.
47:06
You said it that day, You're a mistress. And she's like, no,
47:07
bitch, like I was saying, like that's how you're painted out to
47:12
be, and that I wasn't. I mean, she kind of Raquel kind
47:15
of reminds me of Teresa in that way where they get focused on something,
47:20
where oh, Megan is waving her arms. Yes, oh my goodness.
47:24
Yes. I think she's very interpersonally and relationship like Teresa. She will she
47:30
will believe what a man tells her, and following Louie the way that Teresa's
47:34
following Louie, Raquel, following James, Raquel, following Tom. You know,
47:39
she can't really think outside of this. My mind, ladies, you're
47:45
blowing my mind. So I think it's more of like mental capacity, maybe
47:51
more than it is diabolical to me saying she should not be on reality TV.
47:57
It it goes back to that point. If there was a len evaluation
48:00
for someone at the top of a reality show, she would not have passed
48:04
yes because her life is now under scrutiny. You know what, This is
48:08
the biggest question I have left. Okay, and I'm sure we'll find out
48:13
more. I hope. I want to know more from Ariana. You're with
48:15
this person for almost ten years. You cannot tell me? Just like we've
48:22
known Raquel all these seasons and we didn't expect this from her. How can
48:25
Ariana be with Tom for this long and not have anticipated any of this behavior?
48:31
This a narcissist isn't born overnight. They can certainly get worse over time.
48:38
So as Tom gets you know, he's getting into this midlife crisis,
48:42
this older version of himself. I can see how his narcissistic patterns would increase,
48:47
But they were always there. So what the hell, Ariana? What
48:52
did you not see here for so long? And did he snow you?
48:54
Are you as much of a victim in this situation as I dare? I
48:59
say? Recall? What were his games that he would play in terms of
49:02
being on reality television? What do you mean when you say he coached you
49:07
about? What? What do you what? Are you saying? Like I
49:09
need to know more? Are you guys curious about that? Well? I
49:14
think, especially like the Halloween thing, Like, wouldn't you start to think,
49:16
why didn't Arianna dump him? Like he was supposedly out laid every night?
49:22
Like was she They didn't seem that happy, Like wouldn't she have thought,
49:24
hey, maybe I should end this at some point? Right? Would
49:27
I started to think, Yeah, she couldn't have been happy. There seems
49:30
to be so much contempt between them. Yeah, right, they were not
49:34
happy, and and I don't think that they were happy. And I think
49:37
that she has had a very bad relationship in her past and that they she
49:43
would have she said, I would have followed you wherever. And I think
49:46
why though, because she trusted him and enough and probably more than she's ever
49:53
trusted another man, that she did turn a blind eye to this because in
49:58
her mind, it's like, we just need to say together, it's it's
50:00
because of these following reasons, and so instead of thinking he's cheating on me,
50:05
she's thinking, no way, you know, he's not, or she
50:08
she would tamp down her woman's instinct, I've done it. I think I've
50:13
done it where it's like that can't be right, Oh, I'm sure it's
50:15
fine. Absolutely tamped it down a little bit because in the end, of
50:20
the day. She felt that they were a team mm hmm. And they're
50:23
on this reality show where there are a couple, so there is some you
50:28
know, ownership on her behalf to not challenge the relationship sooner. But I
50:32
mean that we get into nitpicking there, you know. But she was open
50:36
to fixing it, she said, you know, and he had already he
50:39
had already dipped out, so there was you know, nothing's going to happen
50:43
there for him. That's the worst hurt for her, you know. I
50:46
thought it was how he dipped out and how that's the thing that I think
50:51
is embarrassing for her, and she feels it here. She is going,
50:54
I wonder what's wrong, And the truth is he was already gone, and
50:59
that has happened so many people in relationships with me cheated on. Yeah,
51:04
why why is this weird? Must be me or something I'm doing wrong.
51:07
She said to him, let's go to counseling. But but the thing is
51:09
he was already gone. No amount of counseling would have helped that relationship.
51:14
So any moment she said that, she was very vulnerable. And I don't
51:17
mean to say she's embarrassed, She's right. They are the ones who should
51:20
be humiliated. But it does feel terrible when you're in the dark. Oh
51:24
my god. You know Laala really said it that you know this happened to
51:31
you. But it's in a good way. You know. There there's therese
51:35
are two people that are horrible that are out of your life, like,
51:38
be glad for that. And she's right, She's right. Two people left
51:43
it at the same time. You don't want him in your life, right,
51:45
And Arianna's career is going to be like she's done now, she's off
51:50
to the races. She's in good shape. Now. Oh my god.
51:52
The big commercials, the Battery commercials, the ruffles, I mean those are
51:58
just three with the star as good as Gold commercial. Yeah, the Uber
52:01
one, you guys, it's it's sick. I actually thought the Battery one
52:07
was really good. I thought that was funny, that was cute. That
52:10
was the probably the best one yet, I think, although now Uber Uber
52:14
one was the best. But because that was three of them saving savings,
52:21
I love that. Oh my god. I thought it was interesting when Schwartz
52:25
said, you know what, what what did you feel like? Dad?
52:29
The world rally around you? Bah bah, you know, like he was
52:31
talking to Ariana and finding out what And I did not expect this from Ariana
52:37
at that point for her to break down and cry and say it kept me
52:39
going, and and she thanked everybody, and and she said that she had
52:45
someone stay with her every night because you know, she felt like she needed
52:49
someone to babysit her. And and that's when Tom cried and said, you
52:52
don't deserve this, and then Raquel said you don't and Arianna said, you're
52:57
still doing it. When are you going to realize that this is an abomination?
53:01
Abort it? I mean, that was something else. I thought we
53:10
were watching a period piece, you know, I was like, are we
53:14
back in the dark age? What? What was this Game of Thrones?
53:19
This is an abulmination Rosemary's Baby. That was tough to watch because it is
53:29
true there they were still kind of like sort of together. And we hear
53:36
we hear now that they are not together anymore. They are together, they
53:38
are not together. That they've confirmed that they're not together. That's been a
53:44
source. But she also has sent him like a letter to his house because
53:50
Arianna saw it. And then Tom was seen on an airplane holding his phone
53:55
out for a great photo op with namely that oh easy. And you know
54:02
he probably he wasn't even talking to her. It was just anyone on the
54:07
phone, and they just said Raquel levis right on the phone. Uh huh.
54:10
Sure liar today though, I got TMD, says Sandoval and Schwartzy taking
54:19
a little breather. Yes, Schwartz went on Jackson Britney's podcast a little bit
54:27
with Schwartz. He's say your love it, love it. He's taking a
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break, he's seeing another podcast its Glasive. I want Brittany back so bad
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rock Jail. Oh. The other thing that Lisa vander Pump was the most
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I write about was the lightning bolt necklace. She was like, that was
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su provocative. I'm gobsmagged the necklace. You went right on television. You
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got it. I mean, oh wait, didn't you say that that store
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doesn't sell things that are seven hundred and eighty dollars? Oh I didn't know
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they did. It's like something in moonbeams or something. Yeah, Polka dots
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and moon beams. Jamie, we've been there. That's why I got that
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Bob Seger t shirt. Remember we went to that that store on Melrose.
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Oh my Atlanta. Yes, you were like, you gotta get this shirt.
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Of course you have no you have no recollection, but that's okays of
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my life. She doesn't remember, but Jamie and I were there. But
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I mean it's just like any cool boutique in LA, you know, with
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really cute, trendy clothes that are, you know, kind of expensive.
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I mean the T shirt I got was probably like fifty bucks, you know,
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maybe seventy I don't know. I remember it had it had lightwood floors
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and it was really fancy. And I was like, nothing in here that'll
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fit me. But the sacks, yes, and it had ladders that were
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items off of it, like scarbs. I remember that. Yeah, see
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you do remember, and they had I just had no idea that they had
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jewelry that was that expensive in their case. My god, apparently they did.
56:13
Anyway, is there anything else that you guys want to pipe in on
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before we wrap up this recap of vannerbub Rules three Reunion three, God bless
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it. Let's go around. Let's start. Let's start with Emily. Emily,
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any last thoughts. I just really feel like, what was it all
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for? Right? Like you really wanted to be with her? Then?
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Why aren't they like we're together? This is it we are here, Like
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it wasn't that all. It was almost just like he was like ashamed of
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it. It was like this weird thing like you're saying they're laughing about.
56:45
I just don't even understand, Like why blow up everything for something you don't
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even care about? It's it's it's extremely odd, especially when you can compare
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it to I think it was the season four reunion where he was with Arianna
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and Kristen was all angry and they were like him and Ariann are like,
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we are together, moving on, you know what I mean? It was
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none of that. So it's just it's all very strange right right a Megan.
57:10
It makes me feel like the and like all of this was inauthentic on
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Sandoval's part. Riquel I think was a pawn in his villain game and it
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ended up coming out a lot sooner than what they ever expected, and therefore
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there's no way to save it, I think in the way that Sandoval had
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planned in his mind to save it. Wow wise thoughts, Jamie, I
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am gobsmacked. I can't imagine why you'd blow up your own career, your
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Schwartz, your Sandy, your Tom Tom you're following I all risk it all,
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and I do understand based on something I just heard from from I believe
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you said this, Emily. But you know, if if he had,
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if it had happened the way he wanted it, it all would have worked
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out. You think. I think that if it happened the way that he
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wanted it, that he would have broken up with Arianna after the reunion,
58:09
waited an appropriate amount of time and taken a lot less heat when him and
58:14
Rachel started dating. But he couldn't, he couldn't pull it off, and
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he he why he would blow up his own life. I'll never understand.
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And then I want to give my roses to Amy for accepting my constant texts,
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Instagram forwards, and also my BBR crew Katie, Jess, Chris and
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Abd without nothing. I mean, I live alone. You know I really
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needed my friends in this moment. And we will all heal and he and
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we'll rebuild. Oh wait, Jamie, we have to tell what your theory
58:51
was, because I thought it was so good. Okay, So obviously one
58:57
last thing real quick, and that is Jamie hit me with a theory that
59:01
I had not heard, which is clearly not true. Everything's been debunked and
59:05
it was no one's theories. But Jamie, what was your theory about what
59:08
the big twist was going to be? My theory was that the clip of
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Lisa going we will all rebuild and everyone was crying, was that the last
59:17
five minutes of the reunion would be that the show was supposed to end,
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and that that the show was over and then scanned of all happened, and
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that was the last five minutes that there would be no more Vanderbump rules.
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And obviously I was dead wrong because it will go on for vera But how's
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it going to go on without some of them? But if you bring back
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some old mainstays, maybe that'll mix it up. I don't know. Oh
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yeah, Jackson, Brittany are for sure going to come back. I'm you
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know, yeah, love it, love it. Well. I'm so grateful
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for Jamie Moyer. Thank you so much. You are the best. Where
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can people follow you Instagram at jam Detroit or Jamie j a I m e.
1:00:06
Underscore Moyer at Twitter. Okay, great, oh my gosh, Emily
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and Megan the darlings have called in. Thank you guys so much for piping
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in with your hot takes. Thanks for having me and you both. Thank
1:00:21
you guys so much, and listen. I'll be over on Patreon tomorrow for
1:00:24
Orange County. Thanks guys. Bye bye Bye Drama, Darling Drama, Darling
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