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Episode 168: Don't Spoil DPW, Meltzer Thigh Slaps, & Gaming Nostalgia with Jed Shaffer. · Chucks Cantina

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This is Chuck's Cantina podcast where anything and everything is up for discussion. And
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now here's your barman, Chuck o'donald. The only the only thing you should
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hear that's annoying at my end is my screaming Captain. That's okay. We
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have had thunderstorms in my area. So if you happen me here, you
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know, rumbling in like fours outside. Well, I'm glad we're doing that
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because I really have throats on my houseman, I have a really bad storm
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going on right now, so we're both we're both definitely playing with uh,
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what's that word? I mean, yeah, lightning. This is be kind
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of funny. This is how it always goes. When everbody starts, I'll
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just get into it. Welcome to Chuck's Cantina, your favorite barman host what
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ell you want to call me? Chuck? Thank you for joining us today
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for episode one sixty eight. Uh our guest today in the CANTEENA. I've
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kind of given them shot them shot. I mean, obviously jedill give you
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a shot here in a second, I give them shout outs in the past
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from pod match, great resource to you know, connect with other content creators
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of podcasters and stuff like that potentially work together some collaborations. But my guest
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today it's Jed Schaffer. Uh. He is one of the hosts from another
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podcast which you can find everywhere on like a Apple, Spotify. I'm sure
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there's other sources. I mean, I'm still finding my podcast on other platforms
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that we know existed. Uh. Their podcast is called First Gen Gamers.
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And yeah, I mean essentially, like I mean, Jed and I have
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been kind of missing over a podmatch last couple of months, just not really
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having a conversation, just be like, hey, let's talk, let's do
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a podcast together. But I mean just read your profile, and I mean
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you can just read my profile too, pretty much one of the same.
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Just two nerds here to talk and we'll get a little more to your background
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here a little bit, and we'll talk about like again, like whatever just
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comes up in our minds here. Uh. But you know, obviously Jed
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huge, you know gamer fan is also a huge movie horror movie fan.
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Excuse me. And then I also saw that you wrote a column for for
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about a decade on pro wrestling. Pause hold on anytime I say progress on
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the show, we lose ten viewers one two three four. Okay, Uh,
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so, yeah, you're welcome to stay, mister Dave Melter, then
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go away. I'm kidding. So it's like saying Baldemort. So time I
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see him pop up on Dark Side of the Ring, I'm like, at
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this point, I was, you know, he's you know, he's a
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producer at this point right. Really, as always you can find really quickly
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get some of the the house. By the way, as always, you
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can find us at Chucks Canteen, your socials, Chuckscantina, on gmail dot
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com, or on pomat if you want to connect today, I am drinking
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a waterloo because I'm trying to be clean with the middle with the diet,
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drinking a waterloo, uh, watermelon water, sparkling water, whatever? Did
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are you taking ay through the day? I'm drinking plain, old, boring
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tapwater. That's no such thing here, sir. We always stay on here
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unless you it's it's tapwater from Orlando, Florida. Any water is high quality.
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H two L. So you are doing just fine. So uh but
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yeah, Jed, appreciate you coming on. It's nice to finally connect with
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you. It's nice to be on the show. I know, well like
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you said, we've been you know, we since pod match doesn't send you
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an email when you get a connection. Oh god, oh I have to
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think about going to pod match and double check and oh crap, it's been
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a month since he sent you a message. I know, Like there's a
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couple other like podcasts I've been talking to, but you and I've been talking
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for months and then one day someone messaged me. They're like, hey,
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Chuck, like, uh, something that I did connect with. We're gonna
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do a show at some point layer down the road. They're like, hey,
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can we can you fix your calendy. I'm like, oh yeah,
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I totally forgot that you can use calendy for podmatch and just have it since
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I've done that big mistake because I had like six people just schedule like random
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times with me. I'm like, I don't even know you. No,
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You're right, Like the only way you get in know vacation is if like
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you essentially have like a calendar CD to your popcats and people just go,
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hey, can I come on your show? I got Saturday at eight o'clock.
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I'm like, no, So I have whole life, Like I have
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a job, I have a life. I like to sleep in on Saturdays,
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even though my cat's wueak me up every Saturday at five am. Anyway,
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moving on to the point, we go back a little bit. Let's
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go back. Let's I was tuk a little bit about you. We'll get
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into hbously talking about first gen gamers here in a little bit and shock and
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they know we're not gonna talk about Deadpool the entire time. We're actually get
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kind of you know, maybe give some other fellow nerds or other comic you
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know, just like nerds in general, or get people a break from all
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things deadpoole. So, uh, we're like, why don't you tell me
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a little bit about just like what essentially got you to write, uh,
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you know, columns for professional wrestling, you know, and uh yeah,
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it's nice to actually talk to someone you know that isn't going to you know,
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like Dave Meltzer, Like every time I like turn to my left,
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he's just there, you know, like like Joe Hendry, like you if
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you say his name, he appears. With Dave Meltzer, you don't.
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If you don't even say his name, he appears, which sucks, right,
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You just hit the snow the star key on your keyboard and all of
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a sudden, there's deve meltzer going. But really will lost breast. Well,
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let's see hit the star key on your on your keypad, thigh slap,
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cut yourself shaving, and yeah, if he's doing any of those,
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he'll up here. Oh my gosh, so fine. I forgot what the
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question? What that was going to tell you about your experience writing a column
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professional wrestling? Uh so, yeah, it's been a while since I did
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it. I had to step away just because it was the time. Investment
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was a lot. I started off on the column, went through like three
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different websites. It started off on four one one Mania, and then it
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lived on Inside Polls for a little bit and for about a year, and
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then its final and longest home was Russell Krap Okay, I'm from there with
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all those and uh I got I got brought into four one one. They
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were doing like this big bush of we want to hire new we want to
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bring on new writers. They hire as if they pay, they don't.
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But I pitched them. I pitched them this one column idea and they're like,
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nah, we're not interested. We don't need another op ed piece.
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Even though I had a theme to it. They're like, we don't need
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more op eds. I'm like, okay, well I have this other idea,
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you know, the car the Marvel comic. What if? Oh okay,
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so you're going with this dot dot dot? You know, what if
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I write a column that explores what if this had happened? What might have
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happened if this title match went this way, or this heel turn wasn't didn't
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happen, or or whatever, you know, whatever what if scenario you want
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to come up with? And they're like, holy, that's amazing, right
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that do that now? And yeah? So I spent the better part of
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fifteen years, I want to say, writing it's called rewriting the book.
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Okay it I covered all sorts of scenarios. My first one was what if
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I mean, there's no other situation that you could possibly do that would be
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a better starting column for this What if the Montreal's career job dan? Oh
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god, it's like Dave Melcher like, you can never escape that phrase.
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Yep, yep. But let's see what else I did that's awesome. I
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did what if the Higher Power wasn't Vince McMahon, Oh god, what if
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it wasn't Rakishi who ran over stone Cold? Why didn't we get that?
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What if? What if DX got into the Norfolk scope when they quote unquote
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infaded Nitro. To me, that's the biggest that's like one of the biggest
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ones. And for those listening, long story short, during the Monday Night
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Wars, the DX crew literally went to w CW where they were doing a
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live television production and almost actually got into the building, which and like a
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oh I should I was. If I would to know, I was bring
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him in. Lawsuits would have been all up up everywhere. And that's where
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my story went too, But I did it. It was a twist.
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It was Bishoff. Let's in TX t X goes to the ring. So
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you got Sean and Trips and you got National Hall and Waltman and they're all
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and like it's a total the segments a total waste for as far as viewership,
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Like, nothing happens. It's just a bunch of people making inside jokes
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with each other. Right Then Sean and Trips go, hey, you want
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to return the favor. You want to come down Raw and Haul and Nashco.
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I'll hell, yeah, sure, we'll go to Raw. But they
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don't tell Bischoff of course not off find Bisheff finds out watching Raw and so
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he he files a lawsuit and the ww's like, yeah, but you let
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our wrestlers on your show. So I'm not sure how what we did is
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wrong, right, Like just things just snowball from there that I honestly like.
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Again, it's like one of those like and like I mean, like
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I gus we joke about the Montreal screwjob being said, but like that's why
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the d's there is like known as like the Golden Area. It's also it's
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not just because of like all the crazy things happened, the amount of money
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they made, the amount of success they had, but like every single thing
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that happened, like the what if scenario was almost as crazy, if not
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more crazy, like because again it's like it's like it was like, Okay,
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this doesn't happen. This happens, and it's like, you know,
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but that was the funny about the predictability. You didn't know what they were
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gonna do. I mean, yeah, some stuff was predictable, but like
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you know, like you didn't. I mean it's not like today where like
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you know, if I sneeze, I can know if occasions saying you know
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so and so debuts tomorrow nights, Like, but you didn't know who was
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gonna do. I mean, yeah, there were ways to find out,
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but you to like literally, you know, be one of the few that
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had like internet connection or would sought out that information when today like you could
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just be looking up something completely different and like it just pops up just because,
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which is annoying, but it's just the world we live in today.
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Yeah, Like wrestling news has almost become mainstream now, like WNWW have press
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conferences after their pay per views were timate questions from the legitimate medium, which
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I imagine that during the Attitude era, like oh my god, like at
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like after you know some event like uh, in your house, buried alive,
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Like imagine having to answer the question, so did Undertaker really just get
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buried? Or just imagine having to do the after Montreal like what was that?
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You know? And then Vince stumbles with the Giant Black Guy because he
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legit, he legit got punched in the face, he got his head down
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and he's like, no comment, I don't I don't know. I don't
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know if you're still in the rest of but I don't know if you remember
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the cm punk thing the Muffin incident for a couple of years ago. Yeah,
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like that would have been I mean not that that would have been child's
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playing. I've heard of some of the stuff that happened because I just remember
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and a quick story about that. I was at that show and like,
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great, it was a good it was a great show. Wasn't as good
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as your prior because like that was just all about twenty one. It was
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just like it's just like it's like you can't talk. It's like rest of
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me said it seem like good luck. But I just remember the end of
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that show, like when like the whole thing there was a big return MGF,
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like the guy, the group of guys I was with, and like
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you know, all wrestling fans, we all just like that see about wresting
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coms all that stuff, like we all read, we all you know there
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is that tribalism unfortunately, like we all like want to express our opinion,
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like we're all really passionate about it, like me and the six guys I
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was with, and like the ten to twenty other people, like we don't
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know, there was just like a weird vibe like something's not right, Like
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we all just felt like someone wasn't right and turn out the punkin being hurt.
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But then I'll never forget. I'm literally in my car and of course
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where it is, because I'm near Chicago area and where the show wasn't Hoffman
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Estates, which is a suburb of Chicago. There's no phone signal, not
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a single one. So like me and my buddies, like we all thank
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in like carpool, like we all parked kind of close. We're all driving
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out, trying out of the arena, and like the second that like we
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get like a little bitut of the arena. Almost like a buddy of minds
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call me. He's like, turn on YouTube, turn on your phone,
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turn on your phone. I'm like why. He goes like punk's going off
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and it's not fake. I'm like what And like literally a buddy mine in
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front of me, who was in like a topless or yeah, I was
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in a convertible. He's like he just screams, turn your phone on.
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Like what he goes there's muffins, Like what the fuck does muffins mean?
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And then I turned it on. I'm like what am I watching? So
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like just like again like if anything like as like as like as much as
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we know now, like that would have been like an every every other Sunday
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occurrence with that stuff, like which is like the most random ship like the
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like yeah, there's like obviously some of the conference conference as they do,
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they are scripted, which is obvious, but like it's just it's just that
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it's just that it gives a little more actual sport feel, you know what
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I mean, which is like why like you know, it's like you know
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that people or wrestling it's cool again. Yeah, it is because they're making
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it more real and obviously a lot has to do with it, because I
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mean it is aw like they were a huge, uh reason why wrestling is
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a little more popular again because of everything when they started five years ago.
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But since Vince left, it's just gone so much better. Like again,
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I don't know if you watch it as much as they used to, but
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like you can just notice a difference. Like we're like literally I have friends
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who have watched wrestling since Punk back when he got huge ten years ago,
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or how even like brock lesnar in his like younger years and that they're like
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I have friends I'm like, oh my god, it's actually enjoyful to watch.
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It actually looks like an actual sport. They're not insalting my intelligence every
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single week, you know, And I can't wait till they go on Netflix.
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And I'm sorry, right, I can't wait to go on Netflix in
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January. You know the first episode there's be five f bombs that happen.
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Oh yeah, that first episode is going to be like I've already seen interviews
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and I couldn't tell you who said it. I want to say Cody Rhodes
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maybe, but yeah, people have said like I can't wait to get there
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because the shackles are off. Oh boy, we don't like you know,
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I'm a firm believer that you like when they went PG and they were like,
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no swearing, no blood, something like that. I don't need to
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see that every week. But those are storytelling tools, and it's stupid to
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take tools out of your toolbox because you might need them at some point.
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So, you know, a little bit of blood every net every now and
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then, very occasionally is nice seasoning. Going with the level that John Moxley
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does not so good. I don't need to see people bleeding because they opened
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a door personally, because they got punched in the or they got kicked in
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the gut, right see. And that's the thing too, because, like
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I've talked about in the podcast before, like my wife, as any as
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any partner, you support your partners like ambitions and things they like. You
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try to at least get invested a little bit. Like I've talked about here
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before, my wife, she's not like the biggest fan of realited TV,
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but she likes the drama on vander Pump Rules. I don't know if you
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ever watched that show. And of course, like I'm sure've probably seen the
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classic meme. I just walk into k I walk in the room, she's
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watching her show. Do you want to restart over? No? I don't
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want to watch this, you know? And then twenty minutes later, I'm
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screaming what the fuck? And like that's the same thing. She's tried to
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like learned a little bit about wrestling, and like she goes to these wrestling
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He's gone the wrestling show, She's gone to AW, She's gone we and
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like one time she goes like, why is there a time we're in an
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AW show? It's not like because all I forget Like the first time she
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went to w show, Like I was shocked because I mean, this is
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the during the event's era, especially like during the later twenty tens, where
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it's just like, oh god, kill me. It was so boring,
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but like a table spot was rare. Yeah, you go to aw and
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there's like twenty table spots of the first match, and it was like by
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the we went to one show, it was the third match, and I
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I'm not joke when I say there was a guy bleeding and she goes like,
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is every single match gonna have blood? Like yeah, unfortunately, because
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that's the thing like it like again, less means more because like again you
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can't tell me okay. And it's the most I mean to mine, it's
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the most classic shot you do, the shot of Austin and the sharp shooter
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with the blood no blood, it's not as good. I mean not that,
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not that he wouldn't do what he did, but it's not as good,
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Like it made him a badass, because this is this guy's literally fighting
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and crawling for his life, bleeding everywhere and he passes out. Had he
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does done out, no blood would have been like uh okay, right,
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it just would have looked like the guy you're You're like, okay, why
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did he pass up, but he passed up from the pain. Is he
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that much of a you know, I thought he was supposed to be the
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tough guy, but he's leading out, so he's like it's a thing that
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he can't control, right, Like his body physically said you're done, yeah,
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and then that aw, you can't do that. But like it said,
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like every single match they're bleeding, like and clearly it's it's like they're
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they're uh, what do you call it? Like their repetitions are and things
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like you said that you make the John m. Moxley joke, but like
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there's a reason why guys make promos about it. It's kind of chat up
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and I'm because their ratings aren't as good as used to be. And like
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again, there's a reason they make jokes about their tenants even being there because
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they can't feel in a rien anymore now. Part it's on their own fault.
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It's like they never were they never were really a big like, hey,
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we could do twenty thousand seaters every week. No they can't, but
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hey, if you want to keep paying that bill, be my guest.
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But no, I'm just I'm just glad to hear that. Like there's like
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another huge wrestling fan like myself. And also you see some of this like
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here's the thing, like even it doesn't matter if you like wor AA always
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say that, but like it's just funny like watching people online argue with one
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another. But then yet when you have conversations like you and I are having,
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like the blood joke right away, we all laugh about it, or
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the Dave Meltzer like, oh, why'd you say that name? You know
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that if anything, if anything, that that's that's the that's our version of
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Martha. Why would you Why would say that? Ll discloser, I actually
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enjoyed that movie. I just want to say that. And also I'm a
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huge diehard, I'm a huge Batman mark. And the fact I remember when
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that happened, I literally said to myself, you know, I just realized
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both their moms are named Martha, you know. To be to be fair,
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I grew so my dad was on the side. He dealt comic books
18:36
and comic book conventions before they became you know, pressed chunk kits for the
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studios actually just like guys selling books out of a long box. I So
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I've been exposed to comic books all of my life, whether I was reading
18:49
them or not. They were always there. I never noticed the Martha thing
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until that movie either. It's so it's like that I should have right when
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I miss how do we miss that? Because I'm not joking. I had
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a buddy of mine, one of his uh it's either his cousins or like
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his buddies. He kind of now like I mean, not like your dad,
19:10
but like he he did collect comic books because his father, like he
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didn't have a comic booker like she think them, Like he would go to
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comic comments because that's what that's just what he's into. He was into graphic
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novels. And he literally said to himself and I remember like it was like
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like that thing, like all of us are looking at her, like did
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you know his name? Like oh yeah, both your mother's name is Martha
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because like you because no one ever asked, like what's Batman's parents who went?
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Because everyone knows, Oh they're dead. That's it. You don't think
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that. You don't think of anything else more than that. You go,
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oh, yeah, they're dead. But then you know when he's when you
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save Martha, it's like oh hey, and again all film is subjective,
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but like, yeah, I just I mean, like again, like I
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said, like that, Dave Meltzer is a wrestling for me, at least,
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it's a wrestling version of Martha for all of the people that sol subscribe
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to the newsletter obviously not which hey, I always say in this world,
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spend your money on what you want to. You want to spend your money
20:02
on the original Action Comics, by all means that's a great purchase in my
20:04
opinion. You want to spend your money on fifteen bucks on his newsletter when
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it's online five second after reposted for free, be my guest. So whatever,
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if it brings you joy and it doesn't hurt anyone, have fun,
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right, I have to understand it. No, like I said, like
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I mean, I can't talk. I can't talk Smack. I mean,
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I collect Funkos for Christ's sake, and I have way too many. Just
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like it is what it is. But like, hey, you want to
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buy that newsletter, be my guess. So I can't talk to Smack either.
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My I have a video game library on an unplayed video game library that
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I will never ever fully scale that mountain because it's like I finished one in
20:45
about two months, but in that two months, I've bought two or three
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more to the problem. I half so, uh going off that that we
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get to your podcast here in a second. What what like what was really
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the driving focus? Like what was the thing that got you into gaming?
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Because like I'm a huge gamer myself, not as much as you, of
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course, but like I mean like for me, like I like I still
21:10
have my original Supernintendo and that thing and here's a funny thing. As many
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times as you know, I don't never happens again, like when I had
21:17
my original three six he had the veteran of death, or I had issues
21:19
with my PlayStation three. Think if I never really had issues with my PlayStation
21:22
four Xbox or my PC. Currently, I got on because of my PC's
21:26
my baby. My Superintendo doesn't matter where it is, what conditions on what
21:30
what other conditions a matter what kind of house I'm in, secon matron on
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it powers up right away and it's perfect. So so what got you?
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What really got you? What? What was that first thing that got you
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into gaming? Uh? So I go away back. My first system was
21:48
the in television. Oh wow, And my parents got me that because I
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love like when we would go grocery shopping, or laundromat or something like that,
22:03
and there was an arcade game. I'd always gravitate towards playing the ArKade.
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I've always wanted to, you know, It's like, Okay, you're
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gonna go grocery shopping? Can I go? Can I have fifty cents so
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I can go play joust? And they're like, you know what, what
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do we get him? Want for the home? He seems to love it.
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Let's get him. And this was also you know, the early eight
22:22
early mid eighties when for some reason parents who were supportive or at least willing
22:26
to pay for their child to play video games but try to justify it with
22:32
well, it develops hand eye coordination. I mean, he's not wrong,
22:38
they're not wrong. But to this day, my ability to beat Super Mario
22:42
Brothers has not helped me perform surgery or land in aircraft or anything like work.
22:51
I work for a health insurance company. This is you know, my
22:53
video game skills have not profited me. Good god, Dad, Hey,
23:00
hey, you know to our parents, yeah, thanks for having dad for
23:03
you know, not essentially trying to like show us away from our interest in
23:08
hot pieces. Yeah, I'm thankful your justification was misguided, but whatever helped
23:15
them sleep at night. Fine, Oh yeah, that was it. That
23:23
was It was arcade games in the early eighties, and they bought like I
23:26
said, they bought me in in television me An Atari fifty two hundred.
23:32
Then when the Nintendo came out, they bought me that and off to the
23:34
races. Man, I've been gaming for forty plus years, and it sounds
23:40
like you still pretty much have the majority of your collection. Oh well,
23:44
no, the old stuff. I okay, let's if we really want to
23:48
get technical. Okay, so I only really have a couple of consoles.
23:52
I have a switch, I have a PlayStation three in a PlayStation five,
23:56
I have a box, and I mean, let I have a Raspberry Pie
24:00
with emulators on it that may or may not may or may not contain things
24:06
that I may or may not should have legally. No, no, of
24:10
course, no, no, of course no. No. Yeah, they're
24:11
not there, No, no, they're not there. No, they're for
24:14
I own. I definitely owed all the original copies of the games that are
24:18
on there. Yeah, if you don't say their name, they don't exist
24:19
exactly. No, that is awesome. I I've always I've always tried my
24:30
best and again like when you're a kid, it's like when you only get
24:33
toys. Like again, like my dad says, like if he knew like
24:36
what Star Wars toys were gonna be when when I was a kid, or
24:37
like he was like growing up, like god, you know what I mean,
24:41
Like you don't think about that stuff, you know, like everyone thought
24:44
beanie babies was gonna be the next thing, and then like I'm not.
24:45
And I'm not sure if you know that much about funk Go, but like
24:48
their companies kind of like they're okay, but they're kind of like twindling and
24:51
not like what are we doing kind of thing. And my buddy always goes,
24:53
hey, man, like what's up? He goes every time because of
24:56
my eyes goes wow, man looks impressive, Like yeah, he goes,
24:59
yeah, man, these beanie babies like really good right now. I'm like
25:00
you, like you son of a bitch? Yeah yeah, well you know
25:07
when you're close like that, you could say that stuff. But no,
25:11
I always say, try to take great pride because it's the weird, like
25:15
your quick little gaming store by myself, you speel the I don't know if
25:19
you speel the rent consoles from the Blockbuster, and and my mother. For
25:26
some reason, I always wondered why we would go to this blockbuster that was
25:30
about a good thirty five and forty minutes away from my house. Reason being
25:37
never dated the guy. One point that out, the manager there would flirt
25:41
with her, like we try to date her hard when my mom was like,
25:45
no, I'm like, I'm in a relationship, not happening any idea.
25:48
But like every time we go there would wave off any late feeh she
25:51
had give her free popcorn. And then one day I'm like hey, and
25:56
I and like, I can't I can't remember why I wanted to rent it.
25:59
I was like, hey, we rented a Tendo sixty four and the
26:00
guy's like and the guy literally goes, yeah, but you actually, why
26:03
don't you rent this one? This one has all the games on it already
26:07
been with everything unlocked. I'm like sick. Long story short, never returned
26:14
that Nintendo sixty four. How did you get away with that? Because the
26:18
kind never charged her, He never charged her a leaf fee. He charged
26:23
it or rent it, but then he would wipe wipe off any weight late
26:26
leaf fee. And then when the blockbuster closed, yeah yours, Yeah,
26:33
that was mine it was great, nice, you got a you got a
26:37
Bend sixty four for like what five bucks? Ten bucks? Yeah, it
26:40
was like ten five to ten bucks. And like you know, like we
26:41
rented the games. Obviously they paid for some of the games I rented like
26:45
that, so probably, like I mean, I couldn't tell it a coss
26:47
back that probaly costs like thirty bucks to rent or anything. But uh yeah,
26:51
and before I knew it, the Blockbuster actually closed not too long because
26:56
I know that's that was around that time when Blockbuster were starting to close down
26:57
all that stuff. And yeah, myself intil sixty four and I still have
27:00
I still have that one. It's still it's packaged safely somewhere in my house
27:04
and stuff like that. But yeah, like anytime I turned a game on,
27:07
I you know, it would turn like I said, like a wrestling
27:11
fan, like I would try to know mercy, everything was unlocked. Cool
27:14
turn on, turn on WCW and w O. Everything was already there.
27:18
You know. The only game wasn't all the way done was Legend of is
27:21
Alda Shockingly but so yeah, no, it was like it's like again that
27:26
sometimes like with like we all have those like gaming stories where it's like good
27:29
or bad, And for me, that's one of my favorite ones is because
27:32
it's like, yeah, I gotta tell sixty four and like sometimes you know,
27:33
like you know, you're a kid, you definitely uh, you know
27:38
what's that not fib lie about certain things? So like, oh my god,
27:41
how did you beat this already? Like oh, just I just took
27:45
a week and to do it when actually no, I didn't do Jack squad
27:48
so right, it just a stork magically flew it to my home and brought
27:56
it in a nice bucket or a little gift basket. Uh. So I
28:00
do want to get because we're about uh, we're about a half hour in
28:03
here already, which is again that's the thing I love about podcasting. You
28:06
just talk. You don't realize how much time's gone by. So I do
28:10
long make sure we do talk about your podcast because it obviously does evolve gaming.
28:11
So what was the you know, obviously like the fact that you loved
28:17
you what was the inspiration to uh start first gen gamers? So top ten
28:25
lists? M hmm, I'm sure you're as you're a longtime gamer. I'm
28:30
sure that you peruse ign or Polygon or Kotaku or right, you know,
28:37
video game news sites. There's plenty of video game YouTubers out there. You
28:41
always see top five list, top ten lists, which are fun. Everyone
28:45
loves a top ten list. Everyone gets suckered into them, and then screams
28:49
about how dare you you didn't rank my thing? Right? My problem with
28:55
top ten lists for video games for a lot of the media that I've read,
28:59
had been that they gravitate towards the new and you know, you list,
29:07
you see like the top five shooters and it'll be like Call of Duty,
29:11
Modern Warfare and there's war Gear's of War three and Doom twenty sixteen and
29:21
I don't know mass Effect, and then thrown in thrown in the middle of
29:25
there will be like yeah and Goldenye, I'm not gonna lie. I literally
29:27
had a joke in my hand and like you're gonna say, you son of
29:30
a bit. You didn't say Golden Knight, So you're right though, But
29:36
yeah, they all they all feel like that, and I would read them.
29:40
It'd be like what about Contra right, what about Gunstar heroes? What
29:45
about Sunset writers? You know? And that's what pissed me off, and
29:51
that's what made me think of first gen gamers. So I went if rather
29:55
than doing a top ten list, what if I took a topic and I
30:00
went by the generations of consoles. You know, you got your you got
30:04
like the second generation, which is the Atari twenty six hundred, and the
30:08
television and the Glico Vision, and you got your third gen the Nintendo,
30:11
the Sega Master System and so on and so forth. And you rather than
30:17
going what are the top ten, pick one game from each generation and then
30:23
debate it, and then debate it with a co host. So that way
30:26
you know of top horror game. Okay, well, now I've got to
30:30
find a horror game on in the third gen. Knowing and there are there
30:36
are horror games dating back to the Atari twenty six hundred. Great what they
30:41
exist. So it was a way to counteract the top ten lists and provide
30:47
a more historical view of gaming. Considering video games the video game industry's resistance
30:57
to preserving history, I think it's important to to celebrate it and to remind
31:03
people that gaming didn't just spring out into existence with the PlayStation three and the
31:10
three sixty. It's been around for a while, right like the three sixty
31:15
and the PlayStation two. While those are probably two and the most popular consoles
31:21
of all time. Yes, they're huge, they were gigantic, like set
31:26
like reset the entire gaming industry. But they essentially they build their houses on
31:32
the foundation that the sixty four, the Nintendo, the Atari built. They
31:37
built the foundation on. Yeah, and like and they get like, yeah,
31:40
like people forget that because like I mean and like it's almostly's too like
31:42
where I think, like the gaming industry if anything like the one and again
31:48
it's gonna it's a it's a it's a hilarious thing, but it's a fact.
31:51
It is like Nintendo, like people always go, why are they always
31:53
continue why do they still keep making Mario stuff? There's nothing new. It's
31:56
like because every time they put something Mario on on it makes a billion dollars.
32:00
There's a reason they made a movie because it made a billion dollars.
32:04
There's a reason there's a famous meme of every time then the ten runs out
32:07
of ideas, what do we do? And what is it? It's Joker
32:08
jumping down the giant pile of money, going where's the Italian? Yeah,
32:14
because because again it's like, you know, if it ain't broke don't fix
32:17
it and I and that's a great concept for a podcast. It's like,
32:21
yeah, like why is it like you and the thing going off like you're
32:24
like top ten list. The thing that always really grinds my gears is like
32:29
you'll have some of these websites. I won't say who, but like you,
32:32
it's pretty obvious which one I'm talking about here. You'll see the review
32:36
for this for a game, or you'll see that that this game, which
32:39
like you said, just came out maybe two or three years ago, is
32:43
like in the top five of a top ten list, And you're like,
32:45
how this makes no sense? But yeah, if you look on the sides
32:49
of the website, the bottom, the top banner, what is it?
32:52
It's literally that game that sponsored for that website. And it just it drives
32:57
me nuts because like I think, and I think because like we were like
33:00
the gamers, like we definitely have a voice, and like if that's the
33:05
one thing despite like all the crappy situations like with Michael. I talk about
33:07
Michael transactions all day, which I hate, like with all the micro transaction
33:10
bs go and all that stuff, like we have a voice, like where
33:14
it's like no, we're not gonna buy into this pett petty BS crap Like
33:17
perfect example I did. We did an episode about a month or two ago
33:21
about the the failure of the Suicide Squad game. Why because they just tried
33:25
to make a game in a universe that everyone loved, the arc of Universe,
33:30
and try to make it a live service BS juggernaut And guess what,
33:34
thankfully no one bought into it. And I don't know if I don't know
33:37
how much, like you know, like constantly you might be playing there or
33:43
like even if you have a PC. They last week for Prime Days do
33:46
you want game was for free via Amazon Prime. Suicide Squad. The game
33:51
came out not even four months ago and it's already free. It was free
33:54
for a couple of days. That's sad. And here's the best part.
33:58
They're averaging like via like online steam, like two to maybe three hundred players
34:04
a day. It didn't go up by two hundred after Prime Day, so
34:08
like like serves you, right, Yeah, that's one of the major problems
34:16
of modern gaming is chasing the trends, like right, the live service model
34:22
that rarely rarely does a company put out a game that actually embraces it and
34:30
the people embrace it and it does it well. Like how many line service
34:35
games in the passage just say three years have we watched crash and burned?
34:38
Right? Happens all the time. And it goes back to what I was
34:44
saying about video game history and the and the industry not not not only do
34:49
they not want to preserve, they have no ability to look backwards. They
34:52
don't like they don't look at what they've done and go and learn any lessons.
34:58
They just go, oh, well that. Then you know, these
35:04
forty three different live service games that died in the past two years didn't work
35:07
of ours will right, No, you were going it doesn't even matter that
35:14
you're trying to compete with like Fortnite and Genschin Impact, it won't work because
35:21
there's just the market saturation is just there. Right, you're pushing the boulder
35:25
up the hill. Like I had my wife asked me this question. And
35:30
she had asked me, like, you know, because she's listened, she
35:32
listened to the podcast because she's a great supporter, love you bib. She
35:37
she asked Me's like like one time she asked me, like, hey,
35:38
like what is like She's like, explain its live servicing to me and explain,
35:42
like why it's such a problem. And I explained to her and she's
35:44
like, okay, explain to me why Fortnite is so big. And I
35:45
simply said, okay, imagine you're a six year old, and I said
35:49
this best way to say, imagine your six year old kid. Okay,
35:52
and you have your toy chest and you can actually have a thing where you
35:55
have Superman and Darth Vader on a team. We're going against each other with
36:00
guns. Though she goes, okay, it's kind of cool. I'm like,
36:04
yeah, Now keep in mind it's for free, you know, not
36:07
having to pay sixty dollars or as as some companies like to do. Now,
36:10
hey, if you give us an extra forty bucks, we'll give you
36:14
the game for free. Or we'll give you the game three days early.
36:17
Oh, by the way, it's likely not going to work. It's like
36:22
I'm looking in your direction now. I usually don't say the name, but
36:29
there he is. It's oh, he said the name. He said the
36:31
word. But nobody I talk about I talk cry about Yea all the time,
36:37
and like he's the thing. I'm more than one to give them their
36:38
credentials when they actually do something right the few and the proud, but like
36:45
you have like you said, like yeah, it's like you said, like
36:46
there's this market is so saturated and it's just like these games keep crashing and
36:50
burning. And then we'll talk about film here a little bit before we wrap
36:53
up. But like I also, I'm very into like you know, film
36:58
history and film news, and like the president, like Warner Brothers was asked
37:01
because of course they had their the Lnceerry short, they had their quarterly call
37:05
for stocks and all that stuff. I don't really pay attention to it.
37:07
But the reason I found out about this is because they said, hey,
37:08
so how come our gaming thing was so low this year? Because last year
37:12
we had Hogwarts, which made like a gazillion dollars And they said, oh,
37:15
well, Suicide Squad didn't pan out, And they said, so what
37:19
are you gonna do, h We're gonna really invest our time and money into
37:22
mobile live service games because it worked out so well three months ago. But
37:30
man, it keeps hurting when I hit my hand with this hammer. Maybe
37:32
if I hit it harder, it'll stop hurting. No, it's not how
37:38
this works. Gee, if I give this guy another super kick and this
37:43
time I don't do a thigh slap, maybe he'll stay down some buck psychology.
37:50
Oh god, it's always funny to me too. This match really just
37:54
m really sucked. All they do is a bunch of flips and this and
37:57
how is the um Bucks match? I was great six with twenty backflips.
38:01
Anyway, God, don't get me out. I'm glad, I'm glad.
38:07
We have the same feeling mutuals about Meltzer. Srey's a nice guy. Actually,
38:10
no joke. I actually have that Meltzer like like five seconds took the
38:14
time to shake hands. But when do picture because they were like walking in
38:16
late because they were late to a show, which is like you're pressing,
38:20
why are you late? Anyway? Jesus Christ, Like just saying his name
38:24
like makes my skin crawl. What a mark anyway? Uh no, well
38:32
you know what you get? You inspired it. I want to tell a
38:36
quick wrestling story about Okay, wrestler that I that I'm positive you're you're gonna
38:39
love fair enough Shane Douglas. Ah love them, Okay, you we you're
38:45
as much of a wrestling fan as I am. I can tell you know.
38:49
Shane Douglas has a reputation, especially with some people. Yeah, yeah,
38:55
it's not a great one. So this is about I think it was
39:01
four h five. There was a show here in where I live, near
39:07
Detroit. It was a benefit show for Saboo. He was going through some
39:10
health issues. M he still is, but that's beside the point. He
39:15
was going through some health issues. And so they got a whole bunch of
39:17
talent. They got a bunch of people from the indie circuit, from TNA,
39:22
a couple of people FROMWE and they all put on this great show.
39:25
And beforehand there was a meet and greet that you could meet just about everyone
39:30
that was wrestling on the show. And me and my buddy paid to do
39:32
that because we're like, cool, let's do that. It's and it's more
39:36
money for Sabou. So we're going down the aisle and Shane Douglas is there,
39:40
and both me and my buddy are like, okay, we are totally
39:45
expecting Shane Douglas to like blow us off, to be kurt. To be
39:49
sure. Shane Douglas reaches over the table grabs my hand. Damn your crushes
39:57
it was. It does the two handed handshake where he grabs your hand.
40:01
Oh, hand over. Yeah, and he's enthusiastically pumping it and shaking it,
40:07
and he's like, I want to thank you so much for coming out
40:12
here today and supporting such a great cause for such a great man. And
40:15
I and I'm just turning to my buddy, like who I have Because you're
40:22
you're expecting, you're expecting to go hi, mister Shane Douglas. The you're
40:29
expecting totally. I was expecting to be at best impolite and at worst just
40:35
like total total profanity, lace tirade. And instead he came on like the
40:39
mayor's wife. It was nice. I appreciated it, right, They just
40:46
just I just didn't know how to process it, like would we get tone
40:51
to the next few people? In my brain is still going, what the
40:53
hell just happened? What did I do? What dimension did I fall into?
40:59
I'll that's sparta a quick story in my head, really quick. I
41:01
haven't gone to like many meet and greet things, but one I did go
41:07
to that my mom was like, we have to go to and God rest
41:12
his soul is we went. I We met Georgia Animal Steele at UH at
41:15
a very tiny comic book shop. UH. And for those in the air
41:21
Chicago Era will know near mckenry aka Wonder Tucky. People will know exactly on
41:25
time when I say that. Anyway, once story was short, this guy
41:29
came out, This comic book guy came out, and he goes, all
41:32
right, mister Steele's wut there arrived here? YadA, YadA, YadA.
41:37
We just obviously asked like here, we're walcome to give hugs and all that
41:39
stuff. Just please don't ask for any photos where he's gonna like grab your
41:43
head and like violently shake it like like he just you can find you can
41:49
find photos online where like he's like grabbing like the top of your head and
41:51
like your like your jaw, not like not like you know, violent,
41:53
but just like like he's crushing your skull. It's all flap like fun and
41:57
you know, laughs and all that stuff. So he's shows up and thankfully
42:01
my mom and I and my one friend we just we didn't even mean to
42:04
get there early. We just got there and like I think everyone thought like,
42:07
oh, like he's gonna show up late. No, he showed up
42:08
actually half an hour early, so yeah, which is really nice. So
42:14
he shows up and uh, right away we get inside it we're maybe like
42:17
ten people back, and like literally the guy makes this announcement again and then
42:22
literally George just he just gets up and screaming goes in like the in his
42:25
total George like talk like that's not happening if they want me to grab their
42:30
face and stuff like that, and I'll never forget. Like the first person
42:32
comes up, he like does it like this pretty much cuts a promo and
42:36
the comic book owner, and then the second like he stops and like the
42:38
first person walks up, he goes, Hi, my name is George.
42:42
It's very nice to meet you. And anytime he took a photo, he's
42:45
like, do you want me to do the pose? And like of course
42:47
you're like, yeah, do the things squeeze my head? And of course
42:54
we are four And of course, in classic classic seventies eighty wrestler nostyalgia style
43:01
shows up full gear. He's wearing a black T shirt and he had the
43:07
black pants, red boots, the red stripe, the whole nine yards and
43:10
I'm like, what the hell am I looking at your Uh yeah, I
43:15
know, I like that's it. I love hearing the stories like that too,
43:16
especially because again, like you like you hear about those like you know,
43:19
those horror stories, because like, for example, I met Punk once,
43:22
nothing but a nice guy. There's a quick interaction, super nice guy,
43:28
you know, but you hear the horror stories. Oh he Punk such
43:30
a dick, And it's like and of course, how did you approach him?
43:34
Did you go, can I get a can we get a photo?
43:36
And I said, no, Hi, mister Punk, my name is Charles.
43:38
May I please take a quick photo with you? Sure, shook his
43:43
hand really quick, took a quick photo. And then I embarrassed myself in
43:45
front of my heroes because he used to train at a kickboxing that I trained
43:51
at as well for a little bit, and I asked him, how is
43:52
coach so and so doing? And of course he looks at me, he
43:55
goes, who because I called the coach by his actual when he goes by
44:00
a nickname. But I'm but I'm never I'll never forget, Like san,
44:06
I'm like, wait, why why do I call him coach whatever? Because
44:08
I'll never forget, like the first time, like it was like that George
44:10
amils Steel, Like the first time I met this coach he did do something
44:13
himself by his phony goes, hey, I'm coach so and so, but
44:15
you can call me up if it was Duke, you can call me duke.
44:17
And I'm like shit, so and then we had to laugh about and
44:22
then I walked away. But yeah, just like it's always fun when you
44:24
hear stories about like you know, like you hear like, oh no,
44:27
like we're gonna hear right here comes Shane, like what do we do?
44:30
And I'm sure again like and especially well again the moment like that, like
44:35
they're not gonna be jerks to you anyway, but yeah, like you said,
44:37
like you have, they had the reputation, it's okay to be like
44:39
a little nervous and stuff like that. So right, and and no one
44:44
else had done that. Everyone else would just like you know, who do
44:46
you want the picture and made out to or whatever. Everyone everyone was friendly,
44:51
but Shane was just like super friendly right, like like it's one thing
44:59
to do with a quick thank you for coming out and check your hand,
45:00
but when they're doing the double clap, you know, the double class with
45:04
both hands for a handshake, it's like, all right, wow, okay,
45:06
because like I said, shook, like we shook or do we do
45:09
know? We did fist bumps without with not alvers with Meltzer and then Alvrez
45:14
just stood behind him like hi, this way, like oh, like really,
45:19
but anyway, we got we got a couple more minutes here. I
45:23
do want to move on to one thing before we get out of here,
45:25
as I did make a joke earlier, and I lied, not to you
45:29
but to the audience. UH are going to talk all about deapool because of
45:31
what else is going on right now in the world. We don't think it
45:36
like the movies are coming out yet and stuff like that. I know,
45:37
like you said, like you you did mentioned you are an MCUF and everything
45:39
like that. The thing I want to ask you is, obviously the MCU
45:45
is like in a a little weird spot right now, you know, with
45:50
the public, not exactly the you know, it's not it's not exactly twenty
45:52
twelve with Avengers or twenty nineteen with the Endgame. I'm with that one little
45:57
good moment with no way home. Essentially, what I want to ask you
46:00
is, do you think this is the thing that could get him back on
46:04
track to those days where essentially, like I said, I I literally made
46:07
the joke that every time years ago that essentially any Marvel movie Kevin Feigey can
46:10
wipe his you know what with a billion dollars, because that's what's gonna happen.
46:15
Obviously at the last five years, that's up in the case. But
46:22
do you think this is the thing that could set them to get back on
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that course? And then obviously what do you expect not I mean knowing again
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the spoilers, not that there's ever again. Best of luck to anyone,
46:32
Just turn your phone off, don't go on social don't do anything. But
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what do you expect in terms of in terms do you do you expect this
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film to be as good as as we all hope to be. Essentially,
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I expected to be the movie that are all the Deadpool fans, you know,
46:50
all the dead Pool fans want it to be. I can't see why
46:53
it wouldn't be riot. You know, the Ryan Reynolds was heavily involved in
46:59
the production of the first to I imagine, and he was pretty upfront and
47:04
and Figy has backed it up of being saying, you know, we're not
47:07
going to dilute it just because it's now under the mcu banyard. We're gonna
47:10
let dead Bull be Deadpool. So I'm confident that it will be everything that
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the fans want it to be. I am not confident that it's going to
47:22
write the ship gotcha, reason d Deadpool is not like anything else in the
47:32
MCU. Even if this is like a step, I mean, forget timelines
47:37
and in alternate histories and whatever, just in terms of like the style,
47:44
Deadpools is like nothing else. That She Hulk might be the closest thing.
47:51
And even then, no, God no, there's there's a reason we do
47:59
a thing called Surp reviews, where we review things like Marvel movies and DC
48:02
movies and other big movies. There's a reason there was no Serp review for
48:05
she Hulk at least continue on. I can understand why I what needs to
48:14
write. As much as I think it will do success, I think it
48:19
will be successful. I don't think I don't believe that success will translate to
48:24
the next MCU movie that's more traditional MCU is my point, gotcha, whatever
48:35
that one is. And I can't think of what's next in the schedule after
48:37
Deadpool and Wolverine. Is it? To my knowledge, it's Captain America.
48:42
Okay that I think that is going to have to build its own audience,
48:49
Like I think I think the the I think the audience has been tested enough
48:54
by enough movies that have been anywhere from that's fine, I guess to Oh
49:00
please help me looking at you Eternals. Oh I actually liked Eternals. I
49:08
want that two and a half hours of my life back. I mean it
49:12
was long. I said that from my slip review. It was way too
49:15
long. But yeah, going continue, But it the MCU, I don't
49:22
want to say. I mean Deadpool and Wolverine is going to be part of
49:24
the MCU, but because it's my traditional style, they need a traditional style
49:30
movie to re to rebuild the trust. M I'm hoping that whatever this is,
49:37
a new Captain America Corporates still called Brave New World or New World Order
49:42
as I forget, who knows at this point. I mean, I mean
49:45
they reshot pretty much the entire movie, Like that's not a secret anymore.
49:47
They reached almost the entire thing. So Captain America for whatever it's, yeah,
49:53
that needs to That is the movie that needs to prove the point that
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the MCU is back on track. Right. Well, if that one does,
50:04
then the next one will and then the one after that. But if
50:06
Captain America four, those sideways. It goes from there. I mean,
50:16
if that goes sideways the reshoots they did that, there's even bigger problem.
50:22
I'm glad you mentioned because here's the thing. I think my expectations for this
50:24
movie are very like the last two Deadpools were awesome, like you know,
50:29
and it's fine, like we're getting like we're literally getting the dream like where
50:31
it's like we finally get the Hugh Jackman, Ryan Reynolds Wolverine Deadpool you know,
50:36
matchup that we should have had ten years ago in that colossal of a
50:38
failure movie from actually like fifteen years ago now actually and hobviously everyone knows like
50:45
they're online quote unquote beef, which is hilarious if you were to take the
50:47
time to watch it. But I think the problem, Like I said,
50:52
I'm expecting this movie to be fantastic, I'm also expecting this to essentially be
50:57
the how I put this, I don't want to say, like on the
51:00
level of endgame, but essentially like if Figgy had the control of the Fox
51:04
stuff, which he typically does not, and be like, hey, this
51:05
is this is gonna be the end game for Fox, Like this is gonna
51:07
be it. But like we're gonna be done with it. The only thing
51:09
I think it's to be a problem after this is this movie I think is
51:13
gonna be so good that now all people are gonna on his Deadpool. And
51:17
also anytime he's on screen, anytime he doesn't drop any four letter words because
51:22
he's not gonna be doing it like an avenger or anything like that, people
51:23
like, wait, what's going on here? That's a realistic fear? That
51:29
is that is absolutely realistic, Like it could set the success of that movie
51:35
could set a bar that the MCU is incapable of reaching, isn't designed to
51:40
even reach right right, and like the thing that the thing that's even like
51:45
more crazy than me. Well, first off, fig said like this is
51:49
the only r rady thing we're doing, and then he came out last earlier
51:52
this week saying, oh, no, Blade will be radidar. If the
51:52
movie actually gets made, shut it won't that that might as well be a
51:58
Star Wars movie that's somebody get made either, although I do just lose their
52:00
third director. I think it's fourth director, third writer. Yeah, but
52:06
no, no, no, no, it's it's still in the box,
52:07
Mahershaw. He's not he's not out the movie was announced like five years ago.
52:10
Anyway, at this point, it's an MCU's version of the flash with
52:16
a lot of results with a yeah and we thought the scorpion came from two
52:23
thousand and one CGI was bad anyway, But that's a joke, not mean
52:28
we're gonna get it's okay though, but it's you're gonna the promise, like
52:31
I said, you're gonna have this precedent where that's happening. Like the thing
52:35
I don't want to say people are not And here's the thing. I'm a
52:37
Disney adult, I said in the podcast. I'm not creating some of these
52:38
like people are going down there and living their lives vlogging. Hey if I
52:42
could do that with and I make the money I do in a heartpy it's
52:44
a good, nice life. But I don't understand think people are comprehending the
52:47
idea of like how funny is this the fact that like how far are they
52:51
the Disney? Let they go because this is who you know? Or that's
52:53
Mario. Oh you know right now, that's kind of Mickey. You're literally
52:57
having a Disney movie that is rated. Are that's going to have jokes about
53:01
Disney? And I don't think and none enough people are like comprehending the idea
53:07
of that happening. Like years ago when I was announced that pools rightar,
53:08
people were talking about that. But it's like, what jokes are they gonna
53:13
let them do? Because like my father in law, he's been going to
53:15
Disney Disney since the day it opened in Florida because you know what the team
53:17
he was a kid. You can do that, But like what jokes,
53:22
because it's Disney, what do you think? It's always? I mean,
53:23
it is what it is. It's the Goodie too Shoes image, you know,
53:28
like it's always the kids are happy and anytime someone dramatic happens, they
53:30
resolve the issue by minute nineteen before minute twenty end is a show. And
53:35
but like how far are they gonna go? And that's the thing. I
53:38
am really excited aout And like I said that, that's my biggest word is
53:40
like after like I think this movie's gonna be too good to the point where
53:43
like when when Captain America four comp was called Captin America four, It's like,
53:47
why didn't you guys do it like that? Because that's what's gonna happen.
53:52
Oh yeah, this movie was pretty good. But yeah, maybe they
53:53
had a little like it was a little it feels like rated R where they
53:55
can have a little more bloods and cuss words that be, but like that's
53:58
not what makes a movie good, you know what I mean, don't get
54:00
me wrong. Don't get me wrong, full mail Jacket without the cussing,
54:05
very weird movie. But you know what, it's still a good movie because
54:07
of the story. Or same with The Godfather without the swearing. Very different
54:13
conversations, but it's still it's still a classic because of the good writing.
54:16
And I just hope that that's not what happens after this movie again, Like
54:20
obviously, time will tell. And I just ask anyone who is listening to
54:24
this podcast just not even just with with any movie, don't be a jerk,
54:29
don't spoil it. Yeah, Like I just let people let people enjoy
54:34
it in their own time, right, Like, Yeah, there are some
54:38
people out there who want spoiler, you know, who want the spoilers by
54:43
all means, let let them go. Look, yeah, well there's plenty
54:46
of places that will do that. There are plenty of movie reviewing sites that
54:51
will you know, put in big bowld sixteen on spoiler tag below this line
55:00
right, And that's for them and for the rest of us who want to
55:02
go in and be surprised. But you know, you know who also needs
55:07
to learn that lesson Marvel themselves. Indeed, because the last Spider Man movie,
55:20
I'm I'm not saying it's a bad movie. It's not a bad movie.
55:24
But I was disappointed in that last Spider Man movie because the trailers spoiled
55:31
everything. Right. I walked in going, okay, well, if Electro
55:36
is in it, and Green Goblin's in it, doc Oka is in it,
55:39
the other two Spider Men are going to be in it, right,
55:43
so what is the surprise left? Oh? Aunt may die? Oh okay,
55:47
fine, like if you did, like if that was even I was
55:52
like, oh, hey, William Defolla Green Goblin from Toby Maguire's parents at
55:55
this movie. Oh yeah, he won't be Toby won't be in this movie.
56:00
There's one trailer and it was one of the earlier trailers I want to
56:02
say, where there's a shot and the movie like obviously the movie's been out,
56:07
like everyone knows it was. Even the commercials after the movie came out,
56:09
like two weeks later, like here come see Toby McGuire and here Garfield.
56:13
There's a trailer where literally it's Tom Holland he jumps off up like a
56:15
pipe or whatever, and he's jumping all the bad guys yep, and all
56:20
the bad guys are jumping at him, but in different directions. It's like,
56:22
I mean, Marvel does that. They like they change the trailers and
56:25
stuff like that to like, you know, making like like you know,
56:28
the classic Hulk and Infinity War classic, classic mislead classic, and it worked,
56:35
but it was so obvious and it's just like, now, te't me
56:38
wrong. When I was at when I went to Know, I said,
56:40
like, no way, no way Home was one of my favorite experiences ever
56:44
in a theater because it was like it was kind of and we were still
56:46
in the pandemic, but it's kind of things are getting like a little bit,
56:49
you know, a little things were easing up a little bit and looked
56:52
like I was like a football game because like the people were freaking out,
56:55
like I mean freaking out, which is it was a good time. Not
56:59
inter'sting, thankfully, they're freaking out respctful where I can actually hear them talk.
57:02
That's sometimes a problem and I'm sure that's gonna havead with Deadpool Wolverine tomorrow.
57:07
But yeah, like you said, if you like the spoilers, by
57:10
all means going it. But if you're also on these people who do post
57:13
spoilers, do like what he said, giant spoilers, and then do like
57:16
the twenty dashes below it till like not where it's the first thing you read.
57:20
You know what I mean? You know, obviously be careful because yeah,
57:22
there are those websites I do spoilers, I think, you know,
57:23
with people like who just spoil things in the first title, like Dave Meltzer.
57:30
We're just going after him today. That's pretty much how I do every
57:32
single week. But with that I only respectful of your time. I do
57:37
want to thank you for coming on this week. It was a pleasure speaking
57:39
with you. I can't believe it's already been an hour. That was super
57:42
fast. But before we get out of the canteen today, I want obviously
57:45
give you a minute to you know, plug or promote anything you got going
57:49
on coming up, obviously your podcast and where people can find you in the
57:52
meantime. Thank you. It's been a pleasure to be on this show as
57:55
well. I Kevin I guessed on podcasts on other ones, but I can't
58:00
remember the last time I've laughed this much that it has been a pleasure.
58:07
As you said at the top of the show, First Gen Gamers can be
58:08
found on just about every platform you can think of, Apple, Spotify,
58:14
Google, No, Google shutdown, Google, I do that too, Google
58:17
shutdown. One more thing for the Google graveyard, Google Stevia. Now it's
58:27
seven hundred residents or something. But yeah, you can find the show just
58:32
about everywhere you can find me. I'm on. The only social media that
58:37
I'm currently on is a Blue Sky, you know, which my name is
58:42
on. There is streets of Jed. We do have an Instagram. It
58:49
just started. My co host Ashley just started it it to handle his First
58:53
Gen Gamers pod. I have no idea what's been posted to it yet if
58:58
anything, but we are finally She's hats a little bit of difficulty recording new
59:04
episodes. Those difficulties are behind us. We're starting a whole new season.
59:09
We're finally we're getting on a great schedule starting recording as of when we're talking
59:15
right now, this weekend, so there will probably be stuff on the Instagram
59:21
coming very soon and a new episode next week at least next week from when
59:24
we're recording right now, perfect, Well, did I want to thank you
59:29
for coming on the show today as always Obviously Jenny myself didn't have any crazy
59:35
drinks tonight, but if you did have any drinks in that way, it
59:36
was in this podcast. Please be smart, please, you don't save,
59:38
call it, ride share, call taxi, call a friend, get home,
59:40
sack, don't do anything dumb. I don't like anyone leaveing my canteen
59:43
as drunk and on their own power, essentially behind the wheel. You can
59:47
always find us at Chuck's Cantina on your socials at podmatch Chuckscantena at gmail dot
59:52
com. Like we said earlier, you know, don't spoil anything, obviously
59:57
you're into that by all means, do what you can, but also respect
1:00:00
other people's wishes and stuff like that. And we do apologize to Dave Meltzer,
1:00:05
although if I did see you, I would not give you a thigh
1:00:07
slap. Take care of guys,