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🎙️ Paul Price on Anti-Gravity, Hidden Technologies & the Science Beyond Tesla | Michael Jaco · Unleashing Intuition Secrets

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  So, hello everyone, it's Michael Jaco with Unleashing Intuition Secrets.
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  I have Paul Price here today.
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  Paul Price, uh, is, uh, a genius.
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  And we're gonna talk about some, uh, amazing things
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  that he's been involved with.
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  And, uh, Paul, please tell us a little bit about yourself.
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  Thanks.
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  Joining us.
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  Well, I'm, I'm, uh, 57-year-old man.
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  Um, I'm a research scientist in the, uh, field of gravity modification.
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  I've run in two papers on the subject.
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  Um, gravity is a mass unit, otherwise known as Vortex Gravity Control, and
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  the other one is, uh, gravitational propulsion and a fluid membrane,
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  a new propulsion methodology.
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  Wow.
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  Both dealing with an Ether model.
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  I'm a writer running the Prophecy Chronicle series of books, and I
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  currently have two new books out, uh, Tyrus and the Spooky Files.
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  And I don't know if he had a chance to read those yet, Michael, but
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  if he did, I hope he enjoyed 'em.
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  And I've looked at 'em, it looked pretty, pretty
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  interesting.
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  I got a chance to look at 'em and look really, really interesting.
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  So yeah I'll jump in deeper definitely after the show.
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  Good.
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  Great.
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  And I am, I used to do a podcast at one time or several, uh, from
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  The Truth Files, the Prop, the Prophecy Chronicle show to um.
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  The Rick Factor, which Rick is my nickname in the Paul Richard Price Show.
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  So I've, I'm, I have a pretty, uh, pretty, uh, shoot.
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  Some people have called me a Renaissance man, I guess.
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  And, um, I've been tested with an IQ of above 1 73.
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  So I, I even have, uh, Einstein beat and, um, I've been involved
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  not, uh, how should I put it?
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  Not intentionally on my own part, but since I was seven years old, I was
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  tested, found, and found out that I had, uh, not only extreme genius, but I had
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  a, uh, parapsychic ability where I was able to, uh, where I was pre-cognitive.
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  Wow.
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  And, uh.
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  It's weird when I get into those states, Michael, you know, where I start seeing
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  visions, usually when I'm in my sleep
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  mm-hmm.
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  I end up, um, projecting myself inside another person and seeing
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  what they're going through.
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  Wow.
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  I don't know if that makes sense to you or not.
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  Oh, yeah, definitely.
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  But as a child, I, they did a Zuni card test on me, and I was taken out
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  to, um, uh, camp Hero and my father knew about Camp Hero and I, I can go
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  into more detail about that, how I found out that my father was a, um, uh,
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  was a contractor with the CIA during operation or the Phoenix program.
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  And I didn't find out about that until a certain person who was going
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  by the name of Daniel, David Moore.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  His real name was Michael ao.
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  Was sent into my life by former president, now deceased George HW Bush.
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  Uh, all because I came up with an idea when I worked at the Johnson
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  Space Center, and I worked in the cafeteria at the time where I came up
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  with an idea of of a system called the Electromagnetic Pulse Reaction Engine.
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  Wow.
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  And it was just something that popped in my head and it was like
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  a, a simulation that I could see in my head that I couldn't put away,
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  if you understand what I'm saying.
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  I, I guess I have that same ability that, um, Nicola Tesla had about doing
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  simulations and I ended up telling people about it 'cause I didn't think
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  it would work, you know, from my, at the time, uh, basis in science.
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  I had no idea that particular type of, uh, of a propulsion system would work.
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  In effect, what it does is generates the plasma, which gen, uh, is being railed
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  out by an electromagnetic field, and it pulse detonates the plasma, which allows
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  the craft to have linear acceleration.
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  Now you've heard of the project Aurora Pro the Aurora program.
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  Have you not Aurora?
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  No.
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  No.
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  Tell us about that.
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  Well, the Aurora program first came to light in the 19, I think 84
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  budget, congressional budget but, and it was a line item and it was
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  under the, uh, classified section.
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  The thing is they were developing newer technologies to get us to,
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  into, into the hypersonic realm and even go into orbit using these
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  techs or using this technology.
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  And what happened was, from what I was able to find out when I got fired from
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  nasa, of all things for talking about sensitive compartment information.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Which at the time I didn't know.
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  I didn't know that what I was talking about had any similarities to what
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  NASA and the Air Force were working on.
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  Wow.
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  But I
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  was terminated from employment at that time.
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  And my friend, um, he was a security guard.
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  He's now retired.
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  I do believe Ron Jeffries came and told me at the end, said, why was I fired?
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  He goes, you were, uh, you were speaking about sensitive
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  compartmentalized information.
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  And I said, well, what, what is it?
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  And he goes, you know that invention that you were talking about?
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  And I go, yeah.
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  He goes, NA, in the Air Force were working on a classified program with identical
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  technology to what you were discussing.
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  He thought that, number one, I had either listen to somebody talk
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  and I worked in the cafeteria.
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  And you know how people, even in the cafeteria, they sit amongst themselves and
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  when they should be talking, they talk.
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  I never heard that.
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  I, you know, I knew nothing about it.
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  And they thought maybe I had, uh, accessed some sort of
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  classified computer system at GSC.
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  I never did that.
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  And then he made a mention.
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  This was before it became public.
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  He made a mention.
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  He goes, they thought maybe you had remotely viewed the information.
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  I didn't know what, what remote viewing was at the time.
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  This was back in 19 89, 19 90 timeframe.
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  And, uh, I said, well, what's remote viewing?
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  He goes, it's classified, but he goes, it's kind of a psychic thing.
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  And I go, okay.
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  Soon after that.
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  Um, so Paul,
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  Paul, how did you get the job at NASA to begin with?
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  So you're working in the cafeteria, you're a genius and
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  you're working in the cafeteria.
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  What, what's wrong with this picture?
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  Well, I have me, uh, medical, uh, issue.
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  I have epilepsy, and my ultimate goal was to become an astronaut.
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  Well, I couldn't become an astronaut after I had 13 grandma mal seizures.
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  Yeah.
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  That was no way you, you know, about that.
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  But I wanted to work for the space program.
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  I hadn't had a college degree at the time.
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  Wow.
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  However I would've done anything to have been a part of NASA at the time.
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  Yeah.
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  And I went as far as writing.
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  Uh, over 20 miles to and from, from where I lived in Pasadena, Texas, out to
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  Webster, Texas where, where, uh, JF C's located and would ride all the way back
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  and Andra harass and hound the um, um, the manager there until he put me to work.
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  Nice.
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  And I finally got there.
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  And what happened was, you brought up a good point.
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  I have an above genius level iq.
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  Yeah.
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  I had members of the National Security Agency security teams
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  and you know about them, right?
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  Oh yeah.
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  They are the men in black.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  People do not realize that, that it's not really an alien thing.
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  These people are humans, but they run security.
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  Um, it's an umbrella.
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  Uh, a the NC security, um, division is more of an umbrella.
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  Organization than what they are, uh, specifically for the n NSA.
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  And what happened was when I worked at the, um, cafeteria, I was a
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  pot washer and I'd be back there doing my thing, washing the pots.
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  And then these two guys were wearing black suits with either
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  yellow or white shirts, black sun or dark sunglasses and black ties.
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  They would come in, put their arms around me like that and say, Hey
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  Paul, do you like working here?
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  And I go, I didn't know who these guys were and I thought they were awesome.
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  They were friendly.
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  And I said, I love it here.
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  I love working at Ton.
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  They go good.
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  That's good to hear.
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  Ironically, what happened is I was, I was oblivious to what was going on out
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  there, very oblivious, but my coworkers weren't, they knew who these guys were.
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  I had no idea who they were.
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  And they wouldn't talk to me for two weeks after that.
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  But every three weeks while I was, they employed, these men
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  would come in and check in on me.
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  And Oh, why, why do you think
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  they were checking in on you?
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  Did, were, you know, maybe, oh, I
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  was told why I, I was gonna get to that right now.
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  Oh yeah.
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  Okay.
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  I'm, that's amazing.
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  You, I have lots of, lots of reasons why I've run around my head right now.
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  They originally thought that I was a spy, either corporate espionage
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  or working for a foreign actor.
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  Okay.
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  'cause
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  they couldn't understand why somebody with an above genius level iq because they
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  had run as you know, if you go to work for any government facility, they run a,
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  a comprehensive background check on you.
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  Absolutely.
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  Yep.
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  And they knew everything about me.
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  And they're wondering, why is this guy with a genius level iq?
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  What's he doing working in the cafeteria?
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  Yeah.
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  They didn't know that I just had a, you know, had a want wanting, uh, desire to be
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  in the space program one way or the other.
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  Yeah, that's awesome.
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  And what happened was, when I got terminated I don't know if
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  you understand this, but I knew how to get to the building a, uh,
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  clinic at JSC from the cafeteria.
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  But that one day I had a memory fart where it just went like that.
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  I couldn't remember where to go.
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  Wow.
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  It was weird.
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  I went down to the mission control center, they sent me all the way down to the
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  other end, and then I talked to somebody and then they would send me back here.
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  And then, um, I'm just frustrated.
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  I, uh, I'm going, I have to go in for my yearly fiscal, how do I get here?
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  And then I met a guy who was an engineer by the name of John Evans.
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  Well, John take, and John and I, he takes me there and he, he and I,
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  he goes, what are you doing here?
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  I go, I'm working in the cafeteria.
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  And I ask him, what do you do here?
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  Life support, uh, sciences, directorate.
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  And I said, so you work on spacesuits and life support?
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  And he looked at me, he goes, how do you know that?
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  I go, Hey, I'm kind of a space case.
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  And I told him that.
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  He goes, and I said, you're an engineer.
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  And he goes, yes.
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  I said, this idea keeps popping in my head and I don't even know
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  if it will work or anything.
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  Well, he goes, tell me what it is.
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  He goes, I said, the electromagnetic pulse reaction engine.
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  He goes, keep it down.
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  We don't want everybody to hear.
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  Wow.
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  And I'm looking at him and I'm looking at him like, what?
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  And he goes, draw it out for me.
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  And I drew it out for him.
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  He goes, okay.
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  He took it with him.
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  Nothing said.
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  I found out later John Evans was not.
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  And the life sciences directorate he worked for NASA Security.
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  Hmm.
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  But what happened was, I get there, get my yearly fiscal done.
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  I had a bit of the flu, but I went back to work and within three weeks
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  after I, after I discussed it with that man, I was terminated for breaking 10
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  dishes and for being insubordinate.
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  And I had never been insubordinate.
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  And breaking the 10 dishes was accidental.
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  They don't fire somebody because of that.
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  Yeah.
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  But it wasn't until one week before my actual termination happened
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  that Ron Jeffries, my friend, came to me at the cafeteria.
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  He goes, you know, you should shut up and be quiet.
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  And I'm going Shut up about what?
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  He goes, you know what?
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  And I go.
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  No, I had no idea.
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  Yeah.
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  And, and then he goes, okay.
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  I said, okay, I won't say anything again.
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  He goes, good, that's good to hear.
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  Don't.
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  And he told me later, after my termination, what happened.
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  And then that led me on my research into the field of electromagnetic systems
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  design, uh, the physics behind it.
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  And then later on led to the theories I'm dealing that I've done currently
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  with, uh, and gravity systems encounter gravity, uh, propulsion.
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  Wow.
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  I've, I've looked through some of that already and it's stunning.
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  It's stunning what you're into now, so you left NASA.
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  And then you started off on your own.
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  What happened after that?
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  Well, I did other odd jobs.
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  I, I was a pot washer, so I went to pull folks restaurant that is no longer
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  in business, but it wasn't Pasadena.
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  Went to work for them.
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  Went to work for different other, other, um, things from doing
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  telemarketing to lar lawn care.
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  And all that time, Michael, I had people from the federal government watching me.
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  Yeah.
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  Um, uh, do you mind if I could mention a name right now?
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  Yeah, go ahead.
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  Do you know who Dr. Ronald Penal he is?
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  No.
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  He was, uh, part, he was one of the heads of the life science or the science.
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  Science and Technology directorate at the CIA, uh, he was in charge of what they
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  call the weird desk, the spooky files.
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  Uh, the, uh, Ronald Gal character is based on Ron Penal,
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  but for years they had been watching me, even since I was a child.
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  I had, they had run after that incident at, uh, camp Hero.
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  And I'll, you know, if you don't mind me segueing into that.
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  Yeah, that that'd be great.
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  Tell us about Camp Hero.
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  I'm not quite up to speed on what that is.
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  I've heard about it.
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  Well, you've heard about the
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  Montauk project, right?
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  Yes.
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  Okay.
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  Well, I was considered technically one of the Montauk boys.
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  Wow.
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  And here's what happened.
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  When I lived in Missoula, Montana, when I was seven years old, I got
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  extremely bored doing the work.
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  When you have a kid who's got an above genius level IQ and he knows how to do it,
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  and he just goes, I don't want to do this.
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  It doesn't stimulate my brain.
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  I would rather look out a window and see a bird fly and try to figure
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  out the mechanics behind that.
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  Awesome.
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  And sit there and do basic math.
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  And I'm going and spelling and all.
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  I just, and so they were wondering, oh no, this poor boy has got may
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  have a psychological problem.
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  He doesn't wanna do the work.
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  That was their excuse.
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  But here's what happened.
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  I didn't know this until years later, but the, uh, CIA was sponsoring under
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  the, I guess the MK Ultra program
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  Yeah.
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  Under that umbrella, um, where they were picking out gifted children.
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  Yep.
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  And so they had me brought in.
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  And tested.
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  They ran a, a gambit of tests on me from, um, physical test intelligence
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  quantum test, and several others.
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  One of the tests they did on me was done by Dr. Hal put off
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  and Russell Tar were the chief.
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  Um, I don't know what, what you would call it, um, the overseers of the test, but
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  then a Frank Hines who wa who later became an astronaut working on the space shuttle,
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  shuttle off program, ran the test on me.
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  You've heard of the senior card test, have you not?
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  No.
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  Okay.
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  You know, it's the, um, card deck that has a blank face on one
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  side and a simple on the other.
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  Okay.
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  Yep.
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  Circles, waving lines triangles.
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  Squares.
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  Yeah.
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  Well, and then they show you the card so you can get imprinted on what it is
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  that you're supposed to be guessing.
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  Well, it's when, uh, law, the long statistics always says with
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  out of every 45 cards, you're gonna guess one of them correctly.
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  But when, uh, you actually either make all of them or miss all of them,
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  that becomes a statistical anomaly.
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  And I missed all of them.
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  Mind you.
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  But here's the ironic part.
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  When they evaluated the test results, they found out that I was five
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  ahead of five ahead in the sequence.
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  Wow.
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  Wow.
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  And remember, I'm,
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  I'm gonna share the screen real quick and, uh, here's, uh, Hal put off, uh, you, you
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  mentioned some very significant names.
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  Uh, it says, uh, American Electrical Engineer and Parapsychologists
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  known for his work in laser physics, remote viewing research and theories
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  on Zero Point Energy, which you're going to talk a little bit more
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  in detail about here pretty soon.
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  So, uh,
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  yeah.
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  And, and let me tell you though, what happened was they went and paid my father
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  at the time, and I don't know how much that would be worth now, but in 1975, at
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  that time, they paid my father $250,000.
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  Ooh,
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  that's a lot.
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  To,
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  uh, take me on a road trip out to New York.
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  We get out there, and I remember sporadically what it was that
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  we did, we went through all the buildings at Camp Hero.
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  We went into the weird building which they had painted so they could
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  do tests on LSD at the building.
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  Right.
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  And I said,
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  dad, what is, and I was telling my dad, what is this?
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  He goes, I don't know.
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  But he, he, my dad was a kind of a salty fellow.
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  He goes, this is pretty effed up.
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  And I go, yeah.
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  And then we went to the cafeteria, got a bite to eat.
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  I remember that.
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  They stripped me down to my underwear and they put me in what
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  I thought was a chicken coop.
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  It was in a nondescript building.
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  There were, there were no speakers from what I remember,
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  but they put me in a chicken coop.
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  And it wasn't until years later when I talked, when I talked to the
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  late Mark McCandless, and I think you've heard of him, have you not?
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  Yes.
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  Oh yeah.
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  And by the way, just to tell your, uh, listeners, he didn't kill himself.
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  I know that for a fact.
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  Wow.
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  Makes sense.
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  He was murdered.
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  Yeah.
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  And, but he told me, he goes, I said, I remember that it
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  looked like a chicken coop.
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  And he goes, that was a Faraday cage.
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  And I thought, bat.
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  And I go, but as, as a 7-year-old, you don't know about these things.
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  They, they just put me in there for about eight, for about
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  18 hours laying on my back.
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  I would start to doze off.
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  And like I said, there were cameras in there, but no speakers.
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  Hmm.
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  But an audible voice came into my head and said, wake up.
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  And I went, okay.
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  And then every 30 to 45 minutes, I doze off again.
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  And the same thing would happen over and over again.
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  Ironically, my father.
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  Like I said, you being a Navy, former Navy Seal and CIA guy.
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  Yeah.
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  My father had specialized training.
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  In fact, he trained at Camp Hero before he went out to, um,
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  Vietnam, uh,
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  to, uh, Vietnam.
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  Yeah.
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  As an operator.
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  And it's kind of weird.
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  I, like I said, I have certain capabilities and not even when I was
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  a child, I really could understand or recognize now that I'm older, I
• 21:34
  do, I do understand 'em, but there were no windows in the building.
• 21:39
  However, I heard yelling turned to my left hand, left side,
• 21:45
  and could see out the wall.
• 21:48
  Wow.
• 21:49
  Okay.
• 21:51
  My father had one of the, um, had his, uh, 45 caliber, um, Smith Wesson and held it.
• 21:58
  He was telling the.
• 21:59
  The people of the scientists doing the test, get him the F out of there
• 22:03
  right now, or I'll kill all of you.
• 22:06
  And there was a, somebody, uh, who was in military fatigues who had a, I think
• 22:12
  it was probably an M 16 aimed at him and the co and the, uh, and the, uh,
• 22:18
  scientist said, no, no, no, no, no.
• 22:19
  Calm down.
• 22:21
  'cause my father had a gun to his head and they finally let me go.
• 22:26
  And then we left.
• 22:28
  And for years I forgot about it.
• 22:31
  But I do remember specifically that my father told my two older
• 22:35
  sisters when I was a boy, if any un unmarked car or anybody tries to
• 22:42
  pick up your brother, Rick, which Rick is my nickname don't walk.
• 22:47
  Drag him if you have to, but don't walk, run, and, and don't
• 22:51
  stop until you get back home.
• 22:54
  Because he was afraid that they were gonna kidnap me and then put
• 22:58
  me into a, into a, I guess a, a training program is what I'm guessing.
• 23:04
  Yeah.
• 23:05
  Now what I'd like the audience to know is, um, it sounds traumatizing
• 23:10
  and it is on purpose because gifted people like Paul are traumatized, which
• 23:16
  makes their abilities even better.
• 23:20
  Which is odd, but it does, uh, a lot of people have had, uh, a lot of people on
• 23:25
  with your, e extreme intelligence level, Paul, uh, and they talked about these
• 23:29
  programs, the MK Ultra and so forth.
• 23:32
  Now, uh, also there's a guy that was there, I might have been
• 23:37
  during your timeframe, uh, and maybe you've heard about him.
• 23:41
  He was a chron Knott and, uh, basically a time traveler as a little boy.
• 23:46
  And they sent him, they would send him back in time or forward in time.
• 23:50
  Uh, Andrew Biaggio, Biaggio Basa, and uh, basically he
• 23:57
  Bogo, that's his last name.
• 23:59
  Igo.
• 23:59
  Yeah, I know.
• 24:01
  So let, let me, let me share the screen real quick.
• 24:03
  He said that he was at the Gettysburg Address and there was a picture later
• 24:08
  that was found, and that supposedly is him right there with these big shoes on.
• 24:12
  'cause he said when he went through the time portal, uh, he lost
• 24:15
  his shoes and he was barefoot.
• 24:17
  And someone gave them these oversized shoes and then this picture comes out.
• 24:22
  Wow.
• 24:23
  Pretty crazy stuff they were doing there.
• 24:27
  I don't remember the time travel thing, and that wasn't really
• 24:30
  part of what I was involved with.
• 24:33
  Sure.
• 24:33
  Yeah.
• 24:34
  I was more involved with that.
• 24:36
  They were trying to train younger kids to become remote viewers.
• 24:41
  Mm-hmm.
• 24:42
  I had a natural aptitude for it.
• 24:45
  I didn't have, there are some people that need to be trained.
• 24:48
  Right.
• 24:48
  Others that come through with it, uh, due to genetics.
• 24:54
  And let me give you a little bit of a background on my family history.
• 25:00
  On my mother's side.
• 25:01
  Her maiden name was Chandler.
• 25:05
  And if you know anything about given, uh, surnames, Chandler means channeling.
• 25:12
  And so back in England where my mom's family originated from, they
• 25:18
  reported the druid high priesthood, which they were channelers, they
• 25:23
  channeled the spirits of the dead.
• 25:25
  Yep.
• 25:27
  On my mother grandmother's side, on my father's side, we're part, we are
• 25:34
  directly related to the Windsor in England as well as we are from the French
• 25:40
  nobility and, um, Germanic nobility.
• 25:45
  And also I have a smidgen of Italian in me.
• 25:48
  Nice.
• 25:49
  So, um, you're a mutt like me.
• 25:50
  Good.
• 25:51
  That's rough.
• 25:54
  But um, no, I mean because of that, it made me susceptible to psychic abilities.
• 26:01
  Yeah.
• 26:02
  I mean, I used to mess around with things, you know, I. I can
• 26:07
  remotely influence people, if you know what I'm talking about.
• 26:11
  I do.
• 26:11
  I've done it.
• 26:12
  Yeah.
• 26:14
  But I didn't have to be trained.
• 26:16
  All I had to do is have an intense thought, focus it on one person.
• 26:21
  Yeah.
• 26:22
  And ironically, I trained a former friend of mine when we were in
• 26:26
  high school together, how to communicate with me without speaking
• 26:30
  Yeah.
• 26:31
  To a psychic.
• 26:32
  We had a bond, I'll put it that way.
• 26:34
  And I trained her on how to use it.
• 26:37
  Yeah, we we we're very similar in a lot of ways.
• 26:39
  I, I, I'm seeing that.
• 26:40
  So, uh, yeah, I've done all that too.
• 26:41
  That's pretty impressive.
• 26:44
  I'm not genius level though, or Lisa, I don't know.
• 26:47
  But you're, you're.
• 26:48
  Quite phenomenal in a lot of different areas.
• 26:50
  So this is a great you know, background on you that people can see, why you may
• 26:56
  have been or why they would, they not may have been you were and, you know,
• 27:00
  pick for these pro for these programs.
• 27:02
  And then once you're in these programs, uh, and then you move on in life and
• 27:06
  you're just like thinking, you're just, surviving, doing, kitchen work and so
• 27:09
  forth, uh, they're keeping an eye on you, uh, and try and who knows, maybe
• 27:14
  they're even, you know, tapping you.
• 27:15
  I think they, they probably tapped you for a lot of information over, over the years.
• 27:19
  Uh oh, I hate
• 27:20
  that.
• 27:20
  I hate that with a fricking passion.
• 27:23
  Absolutely.
• 27:23
  And here's why.
• 27:25
  I have one scientist friend of mine who keeps claiming that I'm
• 27:29
  remotely viewing concepts that I actually came up with on my own.
• 27:37
  What's happening right now is one of the concepts I came up with, with
• 27:41
  what's called the price principle.
• 27:44
  It is a mathematical formulation that helps you sequence a magnetic Taurus.
• 27:54
  And speaking of, uh, zero point energy, what this does in effect is that you have
• 28:01
  random fluctuations of random virtual particles in the zero point field.
• 28:11
  The idea is to coalesce these random particles to where they could be,
• 28:18
  uh, converted into useful, productive electric electrical transmission.
• 28:25
  In order to do that, you have to generate a rotating either
• 28:30
  magnetic field or plasma.
• 28:32
  You do so in a Taurus or, uh, for the listeners you're
• 28:36
  talking, think about a donut.
• 28:40
  That's what a Taurus says in effect.
• 28:42
  Yep.
• 28:42
  But it's not something you go to Krispy Kreen and eat.
• 28:47
  It's actually a, um, a field matrix that would, that you can actually use.
• 28:53
  But the problem is stabilizing the field matrix so you can draw
• 28:59
  energy potential from the vacuum.
• 29:03
  And unless you have an idea of how to construct the frequencies within the
• 29:11
  field, you're not gonna have a staple enough field to generate an effect.
• 29:17
  And that's where the price principle came in.
• 29:20
  And it's an eight point principle that allows you to pulse varying
• 29:25
  frequencies into the, into the Taurus field that allow for the
• 29:32
  conjugation of zero point energy flux.
• 29:38
  I hope that makes sense.
• 29:40
  Oh yeah, definitely.
• 29:41
  Yeah.
• 29:43
  Okay.
• 29:44
  Yeah.
• 29:44
  The tarial field.
• 29:45
  But
• 29:48
  yes, and the thing is if you really want to generate a sustainable, any
• 29:57
  gravity or counter gravitational effect, you generate a Taurus.
• 30:04
  Because what that does, let me show you here.
• 30:08
  Think about space generally in, in the field matrix, generally flat.
• 30:13
  When you're getting a, when you're getting a Taurus, you cause it to flex.
• 30:19
  And not only that, but it's spinning.
• 30:21
  It generates an impeller type effect.
• 30:23
  But there's a secondary thing.
• 30:26
  And we could get into Warp drive right now real quickly.
• 30:30
  Yeah.
• 30:32
  What you want to do is project a Taurus around the craft
• 30:36
  that's producing the Taurus.
• 30:39
  When you project that field around the tor uh, the craft, the craft
• 30:43
  generating the Taurus, then you have what's within that field, null space.
• 30:54
  And null space basically is it's nullified.
• 30:56
  You're not accelerating or not decelerating, in effect.
• 31:01
  You're standing still.
• 31:03
  If you want to use trans dimensional space, that's one
• 31:07
  thing you can use as well.
• 31:09
  But if you're dealing with that, what you're dealing with is that you're
• 31:14
  generating, and not only that, but you're spinning the field as well.
• 31:19
  You're generating a warping field.
• 31:22
  You don't need as much energy to generate the field.
• 31:27
  'cause you're pulling energy out of the zero point or the vacuum or what
• 31:33
  I call, uh, the etheric space or even what I, in my in the, um, paper
• 31:43
  I did, I called it a proto matter.
• 31:47
  There is still proto matter out there that permeates the universe.
• 31:52
  But because of the fact that we don't have detectors that can gen generally
• 31:58
  detect this etheric field, and the proto matter is really cold plasma or
• 32:05
  a plasma type field itself, we have a hard time gen, uh, generating detectors
• 32:14
  that can effectively detect it.
• 32:17
  So in effect.
• 32:19
  What we're doing is using that potential energy and the field itself
• 32:27
  to generate a warp conduit, which is basically, if you want to use this,
• 32:32
  you're generating a portable wormhole.
• 32:36
  Wow.
• 32:38
  And the thing is, inside that null space, you're stationary.
• 32:44
  However, the field fluxes and you're going faster and faster.
• 32:49
  Or the field itself is, and there you can reach near light speed or even above.
• 32:56
  And it's still bypasses Einstein's speed of light limitations.
• 33:03
  However, let's get to a point here.
• 33:07
  Why is it that they're not allowing this technology to come out?
• 33:12
  You're a former Mil Navy Seal military man.
• 33:16
  What would happen if you had a warped technology and you're the military?
• 33:21
  Well, you could, uh, like, uh, appear in a lot of places where it would, you would
• 33:26
  have to go through combat zones where they, they could detect you and kill you,
• 33:30
  but if you just appear, uh, in some place, you could, uh, you know, extract somebody
• 33:35
  just grab them and you're in and out.
• 33:38
  So, uh, that's one of the ways I would consider doing it.
• 33:42
  Well, here's the other thing.
• 33:43
  You're not looking at, you're carrying a weapon.
• 33:46
  You're delivering a weapons platform.
• 33:48
  You get first strike capability.
• 33:51
  Absolutely.
• 33:53
  And they've already proven that with the Tier three B, uh, black manna program.
• 33:58
  They were using reportedly the tier three B during the Gulf War
• 34:03
  one, and the follow on with that.
• 34:07
  Wow.
• 34:07
  Where
• 34:07
  they were delivering ordinance, they would.
• 34:12
  And then pull out.
• 34:15
  What we're looking at though is that we do not want our adversaries in even
• 34:21
  our friends to get this technology.
• 34:26
  We want to have command control over that tech and keep it out
• 34:31
  of the hands of people that might use it against us one day.
• 34:37
  And the thing about it is, I'm really kind of perturbed about that because
• 34:41
  in my opinion, we need this technology to help us get back to the moon,
• 34:50
  beyond the moon, back to Mars or to Mars.
• 34:54
  Whether or not you believe that we have a base on Mars or not,
• 34:59
  and be able to use the, um, system, the reactor systems to generate.
• 35:09
  A way of generating energy that's pollution free.
• 35:13
  Mm-hmm.
• 35:14
  And it may have some residual radiation effects, however that can be dealt with.
• 35:24
  You can have a reactor the size pretty much like this and this, that
• 35:30
  could power your home indefinitely.
• 35:34
  Yeah.
• 35:35
  Without having to hook up to the grid.
• 35:37
  Yep.
• 35:37
  Zero point energy.
• 35:38
  You could put
• 35:39
  one of these.
• 35:40
  Yeah.
• 35:41
  You could put one of these in a Tesla or electric car.
• 35:45
  You would need to, you would not ever need to recharge.
• 35:49
  Wow.
• 35:49
  Because it doesn't violate the laws of thermodynamics.
• 35:52
  And here's why you're not putting some nothing in and getting something out.
• 35:58
  You're drawing the energy directly from the vacuum.
• 36:02
  Therefore you're pulling it out of the vacuum and then
• 36:06
  reconverting it into electricity.
• 36:09
  Wow.
• 36:10
  Part of what I see happening with one,
• 36:12
  one thing that's happening right now with like, uh, aircraft you know,
• 36:16
  jets and so forth, uh, they just need enough fuel to take off and then
• 36:20
  they're using the ether, basically.
• 36:22
  Because if they were using all the fuel that they say they were
• 36:26
  using, they'd have like tankers.
• 36:28
  Yeah.
• 36:29
  So what is that?
• 36:30
  Correct, is, uh, they're using Ether to basically run those those engines
• 36:34
  once they get up to the, well,
• 36:35
  they're not gonna call it Ether because it violates, um, uh,
• 36:39
  Einstein's theory of relativity.
• 36:43
  Yes, they are, but they're gonna stick, they're gonna use the term quantum vacuum.
• 36:49
  Okay.
• 36:51
  But here's another interesting part of my life story that I'd like to segue into.
• 36:56
  You've heard of Thomas Townsend Brown?
• 36:58
  Have you not?
• 37:00
  No.
• 37:00
  Back in 1971, when I was a young boy, we lived in, uh, Oceanside, California.
• 37:08
  Mm-hmm.
• 37:09
  And my mom decided that she wanted to take us kids to Catalina Island.
• 37:17
  And we were, we, we were all young kids at the time, and you gotta understand
• 37:23
  when a little boy is about three, three and a half, four years old,
• 37:28
  his bladder is the size of a walnut.
• 37:31
  Oh yeah.
• 37:32
  So we get out to Catalina Island.
• 37:34
  My father didn't wanna spend the money on taking us to a, um.
• 37:39
  Restaurant to just buy drinks so we could use the bathroom.
• 37:42
  So we had my mom knock on every door and people said, no,
• 37:45
  no, no, except for one woman.
• 37:48
  She answers the door and uh, she goes, hold on, let me check with my husband.
• 37:53
  I'll get back to you.
• 37:54
  She comes in there, she goes, go ahead, you can use the bathroom.
• 37:58
  And I went to run to use the bathroom.
• 38:00
  She goes, boy, get back here.
• 38:02
  Let your siblings go first.
• 38:06
  And I'm going like, oh my goodness.
• 38:08
  And then finally I got to go in and, uh, relieve myself.
• 38:11
  And then she was asking my parents, can you tell me about your kids?
• 38:17
  And my dad said about my oldest sister, my second oldest sister.
• 38:22
  And, and he came to me and he, he goes, my boy loves space and he loves science.
• 38:27
  And she goes, hold it here.
• 38:30
  My husband's a scientist.
• 38:33
  And do you think your boy would like to meet him?
• 38:36
  And I hurried up out of the bathroom and he goes, uh, I said, yes ma'am.
• 38:41
  And he goes, wait, let me go back there.
• 38:44
  And I go back there and to his lab that was behind the home, and he used to,
• 38:53
  his name was Thomas Townsend Brown.
• 38:56
  Wow.
• 38:58
  And I remember the guy, he was one of the nicest men I ever met,
• 39:02
  and he was working on a, on a, uh, rare earth, uh, mineral fuel cell.
• 39:10
  And I remember he got a, he got a, um, volt meter.
• 39:13
  He goes, do you know that certain rocks?
• 39:15
  Now here I am a 3-year-old boy.
• 39:18
  He goes, do you know that certain rocks hold a charge?
• 39:22
  And I go, no.
• 39:23
  He goes, look at this.
• 39:24
  And he put the volt meter on it, and I'm going.
• 39:29
  He goes, wow.
• 39:31
  He goes, that's cool, ain't it?
• 39:32
  And I go, yeah, it's so he knew how to talk to even a 3-year-old boy back then.
• 39:38
  Yeah.
• 39:38
  I met Thomas Townson Brown and, uh, I wouldn't, I didn't know
• 39:43
  what he was doing at the time.
• 39:44
  I had no idea.
• 39:46
  His wife never told us about what he had done other than
• 39:50
  that he was a scientist working.
• 39:52
  And I didn't find out until later, and we can talk about this, you
• 39:57
  remember nightcap, the national something for aerial phenomenon.
• 40:03
  Thomas Townsend Brown founded that organization.
• 40:07
  It was one of the one of the original UFO research organizations.
• 40:14
  And, um, I had no idea who this guy was until years later.
• 40:18
  And I read up about him.
• 40:21
  And determines out he was working on Electrogravitics, which if you
• 40:27
  induce a, uh, charge in a capacitor, it will tend to lose weight.
• 40:36
  And he, it was called the Bifid Brown Effect.
• 40:39
  Paul Bifid was the, uh, professor at the college that,
• 40:45
  uh, brown had been attending.
• 40:47
  And Brown was the actual, actual discoverer.
• 40:51
  Paul Bifid added his name so he could give credibility to, uh, Brown's work.
• 40:57
  I'd found out later in through a contact I made Paul.
• 41:02
  I'm gonna butcher his name.
• 41:04
  Forgive me.
• 41:05
  La Violette.
• 41:06
  La Violette.
• 41:07
  Yeah.
• 41:07
  La Violette.
• 41:08
  Wow.
• 41:08
  Yeah.
• 41:10
  Um, he did a paper, his doctoral dissertation on the B two stealth
• 41:15
  bomber really being a tic craft.
• 41:21
  Now, let's go back to the Roswell incident in 1947.
• 41:28
  My dad, he's now passed, but he was one of the last living Roswell witnesses.
• 41:33
  Wow.
• 41:35
  And he picked up debris, brought it home, and I, I could tell you more about that.
• 41:40
  Uh, let's just say a certain, um, company by the name of Kepler Aerospace
• 41:47
  may have, and I'm gonna put a, put that in quotes, may have actually
• 41:52
  acquired that material, and they used it as a bargaining chip from what I'm.
• 41:57
  I'm understanding from my father's old farm site in, uh, in, uh, Demi,
• 42:03
  or not in Midland, te or Midland, um, New Mexico, midway, sorry, midway.
• 42:09
  And, uh, used to, to get DARPA funded research grants.
• 42:16
  But my father brought that in Thomas Town, Townsend Brown.
• 42:20
  When he formed NCAP wanted to research UFOs because they actually
• 42:26
  were the confirmation of his life life's work in Electrogravitics.
• 42:35
  However, Paul
• 42:38
  did his doctoral dissertation showing that, um.
• 42:44
  Drones work was directly correlated to the work done on the B two stealth bomber.
• 42:49
  And that it used a charge at the leading edge of the wings to be able to generate
• 42:55
  lift without having to use the jets.
• 42:59
  And it also had a secondary effect.
• 43:03
  That particular function allowed them to have a stealth capability.
• 43:08
  Yeah.
• 43:08
  Because you're generating a plasma field Wow.
• 43:11
  Which disrupts radar from going through.
• 43:16
  I remember that.
• 43:18
  Like I said, I met Brown.
• 43:20
  I didn't know who he was.
• 43:21
  I was just a little boy back then.
• 43:23
  But I remembered that situation happening.
• 43:27
  And, um, the only reason why, honestly, that I think I remembered it,
• 43:32
  believe it or not, was the fact that.
• 43:37
  It printed on my mind after I had to, had to go to the bathroom, had to wait,
• 43:43
  having to deal with that kind of pain.
• 43:45
  And then you, and then you go and meet a guy and you're in awe.
• 43:49
  And I was in awe with a guy, you know, I, I, I didn't know who
• 43:52
  he was, but he was scientist.
• 43:54
  I loved science, so, you know.
• 43:56
  Yeah.
• 43:57
  That's cool.
• 43:58
  A child.
• 43:59
  So do you think he was open?
• 44:00
  Do you think he was scoping you out?
• 44:02
  Paul,
• 44:05
  you mean brown?
• 44:06
  Yeah.
• 44:07
  Do you think it was like, uh, checking up on you?
• 44:09
  They maybe they've already seen that you're like, have
• 44:11
  capability, so he comes into,
• 44:13
  I believe that, that I, I don't believe in coincidences.
• 44:17
  Okay, sure.
• 44:17
  Yeah.
• 44:19
  Well, let me do a preface a preface here if you don't mind.
• 44:23
  Yeah, please.
• 44:25
  And I'm gonna go fast forward to, uh, 1999, 2000 timeframe.
• 44:31
  But there's a part of that story that it goes back to even before I was born.
• 44:37
  Hmm.
• 44:39
  I met a man who intentionally wanted to meet me.
• 44:43
  He was a professor of psychology at San Antonio College in San Antonio, Texas,
• 44:49
  where I, I was working on getting a an electric or a computer science degree.
• 44:54
  Nice.
• 44:55
  And his name w was, he's passed away now, was William R. Rose.
• 45:01
  He went by Billy Rose.
• 45:03
  He had a PhD in theoretical physics and a, uh, master's in psychology.
• 45:12
  Billy wrote a book called The Exist, uh, the Future of Existence.
• 45:19
  He was murdered in 2012 after working with Dr. Steven Greer.
• 45:28
  Anti system.
• 45:30
  Billy Rose worked for classified projects at Area 51, as well as other,
• 45:37
  uh, government contracts, contractors and um, civilian contractors.
• 45:46
  What happened to him was really sad.
• 45:49
  He died in, in 2012
• 45:53
  after I introduced him to, to, um, Steven Greer.
• 45:59
  He was starting to work with Steven on the, on the, uh, on the project,
• 46:05
  and then they claimed he committed suicide, the first claim, the second
• 46:11
  claim, he fell in the shower, and then now it's come out that he was murdered.
• 46:18
  He had a broken collarbone, a shattered neck.
• 46:23
  And Skull.
• 46:27
  He had injuries that were analogous to, um, getting into a high speed wreck.
• 46:36
  Like if you're driving a car at around a hundred miles per
• 46:39
  hour into a wall, a brick wall.
• 46:45
  The reason why I believe there's not been any further information
• 46:51
  about it, but from what I, from my discussions with his, um, former wife
• 46:56
  and all, he was talking too much.
• 47:00
  Hmm.
• 47:02
  He was re revealing information he was told not to reveal.
• 47:07
  Part of that information comes to what I'm about to tell you, and when
• 47:12
  I met him, he in, he had my friend, uh, Donald Kin introduced me to him.
• 47:20
  And for years he and I had a friendship at the time, and I know a lot of people
• 47:25
  have a hard time believing this, but I was being watched very closely by
• 47:32
  unmarked military, uh, helicopters.
• 47:36
  And it got to a point where it got so prevalent that I was
• 47:39
  starting to wave at the pilots.
• 47:41
  And I had one of the, one of the pilots do this to me and smile, and I
• 47:46
  thought, well, you know, this is nice.
• 47:48
  They, you know, and they were protecting me is what they were doing.
• 47:52
  Really?
• 47:52
  Oh, wow.
• 47:54
  I didn't know why.
• 47:55
  And then I had a pc.
• 47:56
  I've, I've, I've
• 47:57
  unfortunately had the opposite experience.
• 47:59
  Uh, but you know, I had the heart attack machine on me one time, but, uh, yeah.
• 48:04
  That's that's good.
• 48:04
  They're protecting you.
• 48:05
  Uh, I can see that.
• 48:06
  Well,
• 48:06
  and, and let me explain why.
• 48:09
  Yeah.
• 48:09
  Okay.
• 48:10
  What happened is.
• 48:13
  Billy explained it to me later on.
• 48:14
  He wasn't supposed to tell me anything.
• 48:17
  Hmm.
• 48:18
  But I kind of prodded him, prodded him, prodded him until he finally broke.
• 48:22
  The first time I asked him, I said, why are the helicopters following me?
• 48:27
  And he goes, I know, but I can't tell you.
• 48:30
  And I go, that ain't cool.
• 48:34
  But he goes, he goes, I want you to look up Indigo children.
• 48:38
  And I go, Hmm, okay.
• 48:42
  Wow.
• 48:43
  What a unique question.
• 48:44
  So I went and looked it up, indigo children, and I went back to him
• 48:47
  and I said, so Billy, are you saying that I'm a star child?
• 48:52
  And he goes, what do you think?
• 48:55
  I go, he's answering me with a fricking question.
• 48:59
  Well then later on, I asked him about a year and a half later
• 49:02
  again, I said, Billy, can you gimme at least something to work with?
• 49:08
  He goes.
• 49:11
  If I tell you it's going to affect the timeline.
• 49:15
  Oh wow.
• 49:17
  But he goes, I will tell you what I can, he goes, your
• 49:23
  father was a Roswell witness.
• 49:25
  Correct?
• 49:25
  I go, yeah.
• 49:27
  He goes, what if I was to tell you that the Roswell Craft
• 49:31
  wasn't an alien spacecraft?
• 49:36
  What if I was to tell you that it was a time machine?
• 49:40
  Whoa.
• 49:40
  And I go and, and, and I tracked with that.
• 49:43
  I heard that theory before.
• 49:44
  Sure.
• 49:46
  And it goes, what if I was to tell you that we tried to back engineer it?
• 49:51
  But we weren't successful at it.
• 49:53
  And I go okay.
• 49:56
  And he goes, have you heard of uh, project Looking Glass?
• 50:01
  And I go.
• 50:03
  No he goes, looking glass was a derivative of the technology, of the back engineer
• 50:12
  technology that we, we were able to glean from the Roswell, uh, engine.
• 50:19
  Mm-hmm.
• 50:20
  He goes, we can see into 12 different scenarios using multiverses therapy.
• 50:27
  Wow.
• 50:28
  Hmm.
• 50:29
  And I went, okay.
• 50:30
  And I tr I, I understood physics in the multiverse.
• 50:36
  And he goes, what if I was to tell you that we got reports and that your
• 50:40
  name came up on every single report?
• 50:46
  And I went, huh.
• 50:50
  And he goes, I can't tell you anymore.
• 50:51
  It may have already adversely affected the timeline.
• 50:55
  He goes, you'll have to find out more on your own.
• 51:00
  I go, okay.
• 51:01
  I said, thank you,
• 51:03
  but, and then I asked him, can you, so, uh, Paula, I've heard that the,
• 51:06
  uh, that, that's fa that's fascinating.
• 51:09
  Uh, I've heard that, Montauk had some kind of, uh, back engineered from that crash.
• 51:15
  Time.
• 51:15
  They would, that's how the, they sent people back in time forward in time.
• 51:19
  So do you think maybe he wasn't giving you all the information or,
• 51:23
  well, he was the original technician on the, uh, looking glass program.
• 51:27
  Yeah.
• 51:27
  Wow.
• 51:28
  Incredible.
• 51:29
  And, uh, Billy wouldn't give all the information, but I did
• 51:33
  probe him about it even further.
• 51:36
  I said, can you just gimme a idea?
• 51:38
  He goes, what you're gonna do is geopolitical in nature.
• 51:44
  But he goes, I'm not gonna tell you anymore.
• 51:47
  So, yes, he did keep it quiet.
• 51:51
  Now I'm trying to ponder what he meant by geopolitical.
• 51:55
  Yeah.
• 51:56
  But he kept using terms when he would talk to me inadvertently
• 51:59
  about the term chosen one.
• 52:03
  And that made me realize as to why the military, uh, was watching me even
• 52:09
  be, uh, and why maybe Brown and that whole thing worked out the way it did.
• 52:15
  And why the people in at nasa, the interstate security detail, why they
• 52:23
  were watching me at the cafeteria.
• 52:26
  Because they knew something that I didn't know, that I had
• 52:31
  a reason and a specific purpose.
• 52:36
  One of my contacts who is involved with the, um, core group.
• 52:41
  And did you read the information that I sent you about core?
• 52:45
  Uh, I, I went over it now.
• 52:48
  You have you, if they gave you the money, you could do these projects.
• 52:52
  You're talking about a lot of this stuff.
• 52:53
  Oh, they're, they're keeping me from getting the funding.
• 52:56
  Yeah.
• 52:57
  And Ron Pandolfi told my brother-in-law in a, in a text chat
• 53:02
  When he went to my brother-in-law, who's alcoholic, Patrick, uh, who was
• 53:07
  trying to get me to pay him money.
• 53:12
  And he used to sit to buy, uh, alcohol.
• 53:16
  He told Patrick in a text and he forwarded me the text where he said
• 53:21
  that I'm a national security asset
• 53:26
  and that I'm living living under a cover of poverty for my own protection.
• 53:34
  You worked for the agency.
• 53:36
  What does it sound like to you?
• 53:40
  Yeah.
• 53:42
  Yeah, I, I, I totally believe that you're absolutely a national asset
• 53:46
  and we've only been talking about an hour now, and I'm like, holy smokes.
• 53:51
  Uh, why, why are you being kept, uh, like you said, for your own protection,
• 53:54
  at some point are you gonna be like, you know, given the green light to
• 53:57
  go forward, you think that's coming?
• 54:00
  You know what, I could build a prototype.
• 54:03
  Yeah.
• 54:03
  If I got the funding now,
• 54:06
  right now, and it wouldn't be that much right now.
• 54:08
  What, what.you need like seven mil.
• 54:10
  It's lemme go check my back pocket.
• 54:11
  Maybe I got that much for you.
• 54:13
  But it's crazy.
• 54:14
  What if
• 54:14
  I were to tell you that it wouldn't even cost that much to get a work
• 54:18
  working proof of concept, then
• 54:20
  that's like, what if I were to tell it's not even a drop in a bucket for the, our
• 54:22
  government, military, industrial complex.
• 54:25
  That's crazy.
• 54:26
  Here's the reason you brought up the military industrial complex.
• 54:30
  Let me explain why.
• 54:33
  They are keeping me from being able to do it.
• 54:35
  They want the core group, which is the offshoot of the UFO working group back
• 54:41
  in the 1980s, which are in effect the modern day version of the Majestic Group.
• 54:50
  Oh, wow.
• 54:51
  And in fact, the Majestic Group found herself of, or of that group, pardon
• 54:57
  me, later founded the, uh, meter group.
• 55:01
  You've heard of that?
• 55:03
  Heard of that group.
• 55:03
  Have you not
• 55:04
  there, there's so many groups out there.
• 55:06
  I haven't heard of the meter group, but, uh, it is, it's, go ahead.
• 55:09
  It's a think tank.
• 55:11
  Okay.
• 55:11
  The scientific think tank Nice.
• 55:13
  Dealing with they, they look into multiple scenarios.
• 55:17
  One is alternative sciences.
• 55:20
  Mm-hmm.
• 55:21
  Core, which used to be known under the auspices of the, uh, UFO working group.
• 55:28
  At its core, part of the pun Ronald Penal, he's a part of that.
• 55:35
  John Brandenburg is the other co-lead on that Hal put off.
• 55:42
  And Dr. Kit Green
• 55:46
  and the UFO Working Group used to be led by, uh, Lieutenant Colonel John Alexander,
• 55:52
  PhD. If you know anything about John Alexander, he was the founder of the
• 55:58
  military's non-Lethal web weapons Program.
• 56:01
  Wow.
• 56:03
  And I know John, I know if you've heard of the Aviary Group, the members of
• 56:08
  CORE were members of the Aviary Group.
• 56:11
  Wow.
• 56:12
  In effect, what CORE is doing now is what Majestic was tasked to do earlier.
• 56:23
  The thing is, majestic 12 or the Majestic Group or Magi,
• 56:27
  are now no longer a US group.
• 56:32
  They're now international.
• 56:34
  They have international members.
• 56:36
  Interesting
• 56:37
  because the U-A-P-U-F-O phenomenon isn't only a problem within the United
• 56:44
  States, but nationwide or international, uh, its scope is international.
• 56:53
  Therefore, what we're looking at Michael, is that you have, in my opinion, and I'm
• 57:01
  gonna get to the crux of, of the matter as to why we currently have a classification,
• 57:08
  not only on the U-A-P-U-A-P situation, but also on the development of antigravity.
• 57:16
  There's one word for it.
• 57:18
  Or actually one sentence, pardon me.
• 57:21
  The military industrial complex, and it's not only here in the United
• 57:26
  States, it's the international military industrial complex.
• 57:30
  Interesting.
• 57:31
  Hmm.
• 57:32
  In other words, you've heard of the, uh, invention Secrecy Act, have you not?
• 57:37
  Yes.
• 57:38
  1951.
• 57:39
  Yep.
• 57:40
  I tried to patent one of my ideas called the electromagnetic
• 57:45
  Vortex Reactor back in 1989.
• 57:48
  I had a patent pending on it.
• 57:49
  Wow.
• 57:51
  I, I received a letter in the mail when I received the, uh, notification of
• 57:56
  the patent pending that my, um, design had been reviewed and they had limited
• 58:02
  the dissemination of the, uh, plans.
• 58:06
  I could get a foreign filing license, but I could not sell it overseas without
• 58:12
  going through a defense contractor.
• 58:16
  Wow.
• 58:16
  Here's the point.
• 58:19
  What a lot of people don't realize is that if you're gonna invent something,
• 58:23
  ladies and gentlemen, and it's a, it's a disruptive, groundbreaking technology.
• 58:30
  Whatever you do, don't send it to the US patent office.
• 58:35
  Don't do it.
• 58:38
  Develop everything internally within the org organization.
• 58:41
  You're working with the company
• 58:43
  Through firewalls and other methods.
• 58:45
  Protect your pattern, but don't get a pattern or protect your invention,
• 58:52
  but don't get a pattern on it.
• 58:54
  'cause once they review your pattern, they can slam, uh, slap
• 59:00
  a security restriction on it.
• 59:02
  Yeah.
• 59:03
  You don't get paid, you're told you cannot talk about it.
• 59:08
  They can develop it through their contractors.
• 59:11
  Yeah.
• 59:12
  That's a good idea, Paul.
• 59:13
  But, uh, you know, I, I actually know several people that have developed
• 59:17
  just like you're talking about, and they came in and seized it.
• 59:20
  So, uh, and it's the same thing.
• 59:22
  National security, type, they have court blanc on this stuff.
• 59:25
  It's crazy.
• 59:26
  Well, the, the, the only problem that we're looking at, Michael, is
• 59:30
  the fact though that, um, they're feeding all this information.
• 59:36
  That's what, what happened with me in my, in the work I did.
• 59:40
  You brought up earlier that they've been claiming stuff from me.
• 59:44
  Yeah.
• 59:44
  Oh yeah.
• 59:44
  I'm sure they have.
• 59:46
  And I'm not very happy with that.
• 59:48
  I'm right now, unfortunately, living in abject poverty because these A-holes,
• 59:54
  and I'm trying not to say the other, the other word are, have taken my
• 1:00:00
  designs and all have capitalized on 'em.
• 1:00:04
  Taken parts of my theory and they have after one Dr. Brandenburg and Paul Murad,
• 1:00:11
  the late Paul Murad, the electrical engineer, and DIA, former DIA analyst.
• 1:00:17
  I gave, uh, I was doing a paper, had wanted them to review the paper and
• 1:00:22
  the formulations I'd worked on it.
• 1:00:25
  And they both said, we can't make hide nor hair of these, of these
• 1:00:29
  equations you're coming up with.
• 1:00:31
  But guess what I found they used them later in their own work.
• 1:00:35
  Of course they did.
• 1:00:36
  They stole.
• 1:00:37
  And I,
• 1:00:38
  that's, that happens all the time too.
• 1:00:40
  All across the board.
• 1:00:42
  I mean, I've had people that have, uh, written scripts and
• 1:00:45
  Hollywood scripts and had it stolen.
• 1:00:47
  The matrix is stolen.
• 1:00:49
  I have the guy on all the time that talks about that.
• 1:00:51
  So there's a lot of that going on.
• 1:00:54
  It's just nuts.
• 1:00:55
  And even in the field we're talking about right now, it's like a staggering.
• 1:00:59
  Wow.
• 1:01:01
  And you know what, I'm, I have a daughter I love to death.
• 1:01:06
  Oh, I'm
• 1:01:07
  not gonna mention her name because
• 1:01:09
  Good.
• 1:01:09
  Unfortunately, the girl made mistakes.
• 1:01:12
  One of 'em was getting involved with an MS 13 gang member.
• 1:01:16
  Geez.
• 1:01:17
  That, that's the story.
• 1:01:17
  All, all in, in of itself.
• 1:01:19
  And I had to pull her out.
• 1:01:20
  I had her pulled out of that.
• 1:01:22
  Good.
• 1:01:22
  So
• 1:01:23
  she's in, she was in witness protection, so I'm not gonna mention
• 1:01:27
  her name right now on the air, but I have three grandsons as well.
• 1:01:31
  My oldest grandson wants to, wants to be like his grandpa.
• 1:01:36
  Aw, awesome.
• 1:01:36
  And I wanna be able to leave some, uh, something for my family.
• 1:01:41
  Yeah, of course.
• 1:01:42
  And to have all the work that I have worked so hard on, taken from me.
• 1:01:50
  Stolen so they can quote, protect me.
• 1:01:55
  It gets beyond the pale.
• 1:01:56
  It becomes ludicrous.
• 1:01:58
  Yeah.
• 1:01:59
  And I don't wanna hate people.
• 1:02:02
  I actually want to be a man of peace.
• 1:02:05
  Yeah.
• 1:02:05
  But it does get quite frustrating.
• 1:02:08
  After all, I've been working on this, uh, in this field for over 36 years
• 1:02:14
  Since right before my daughter was born.
• 1:02:18
  And I wanna have something that I can lead for my progeny.
• 1:02:24
  Yeah.
• 1:02:25
  And right now, because of whatever they want to do or ha are doing, uh, they're
• 1:02:32
  keeping me from being able to do that.
• 1:02:35
  And it, it's become quite disheartening.
• 1:02:39
  I'll, I'll put it that way.
• 1:02:41
  Well, you, you've actually, I have on the screen, I dunno if you can see it,
• 1:02:44
  but I've got your book Tyrus, the Spooky Files, and it looks like a, a photo of
• 1:02:51
  like some guys on the table with some, uh, grays that are standing around.
• 1:02:55
  It looks like tall grays, I guess.
• 1:02:57
  So, uh, what, this could be something that helps you out in the future.
• 1:03:02
  Tell us a little bit about your work.
• 1:03:05
  Tyrus is an interesting story.
• 1:03:07
  It's kind of like the, uh, predecessor uh, to the Prophecy Chronicle series that
• 1:03:14
  I wrote years before, and had, believe it or not, my royalty stolen from me by
• 1:03:19
  a nonprofit, run by a member of the CIA.
• 1:03:23
  That's a story I'll get into if you want to later.
• 1:03:27
  But
• 1:03:27
  yeah, we, we should do another show.
• 1:03:29
  'cause there, there's so much more information that we
• 1:03:32
  haven't even touched on yet.
• 1:03:33
  So, I, I would love to see you, get a little bit of income coming in.
• 1:03:38
  When, when are these, uh, supposedly coming out?
• 1:03:41
  They're already out.
• 1:03:42
  Oh, they're already out, okay.
• 1:03:43
  Are they on Amazon or,
• 1:03:46
  well, I would say I wouldn't go to Amazon because the publisher that I'm using they
• 1:03:54
  priced, it's so low that I, I don't make any royalties from the Amazon or Walmart.
• 1:04:01
  Yeah, Amazon.
• 1:04:02
  Amazon's tough.
• 1:04:03
  Yeah.
• 1:04:03
  They'll, they'll, I did give you, they'll steal your work too.
• 1:04:06
  They've done that.
• 1:04:07
  Oh, they did?
• 1:04:07
  Yeah.
• 1:04:09
  Oh my goodness.
• 1:04:10
  Uh, I could get into that, but I'm not going to.
• 1:04:12
  Yeah.
• 1:04:13
  Oh yeah.
• 1:04:13
  But um,
• 1:04:14
  you can go directly.
• 1:04:16
  I don't know.
• 1:04:16
  Do you have the link?
• 1:04:17
  I did.
• 1:04:18
  No, I
• 1:04:19
  probably do with all the, 'cause there was a lot of stuff I got from you.
• 1:04:23
  After this show I'm gonna post this and make sure we got your links.
• 1:04:28
  Any links that you want, you know, social media, whatever you got.
• 1:04:31
  Uh, we'll put 'em in in the description box so people can, you know, check
• 1:04:35
  out your work and if you have contact information or anything like that.
• 1:04:40
  And here's Tyrus, the book.
• 1:04:43
  Beautiful.
• 1:04:44
  And, um, Tyrus is about a clone, a hybrid clone,
• 1:04:49
  interesting,
• 1:04:49
  who's part Nephilim and was also cloned from the, uh, DNA from Jesus Christ.
• 1:04:57
  Wow.
• 1:04:58
  Secret societies are looking for him because they believe that he
• 1:05:03
  will be the prophesied chosen one.
• 1:05:07
  The book incorporates the occult.
• 1:05:12
  Secret societies, covert government operations to explain how one man using
• 1:05:20
  self-sacrifice can save the world.
• 1:05:24
  Wow.
• 1:05:25
  I'm not gonna get into the whole story.
• 1:05:27
  Yeah, that sounds
• 1:05:28
  incredible.
• 1:05:29
  And coming from somebody that knows behind the scenes stuff.
• 1:05:32
  So that's, that's gonna be a, a fascinating read.
• 1:05:36
  And the spooky files, it's a fictionalized story, believe it or not, of the
• 1:05:43
  precursor story of the Aviary Group.
• 1:05:47
  The names have been changed to pro to protect the guilty.
• 1:05:54
  It's a story about a CI analyst by the name of Ron, who, uh, wa uh, went in
• 1:06:01
  and was doing a corporate operation where he accidentally killed a child.
• 1:06:06
  Hmm.
• 1:06:08
  When he came back to Langley, they put him into purgatory, into the vault
• 1:06:16
  where he was, he was told to go in there and file reports and put 'em
• 1:06:22
  in their, in the, uh, filing cabinet.
• 1:06:25
  Well, while, while he's down there, he runs into a former psychologist who
• 1:06:30
  worked in the MK Ultra Program, who was a neurophysiologist, who pulled out this,
• 1:06:37
  uh, file this file called the Spooky Files and said, let's take some time off and
• 1:06:44
  take a road trip and investigate these classified paranormal files In the book,
• 1:06:51
  it deals with alien abductions at Area 51 Bigfoot in the Northwest, and the
• 1:06:58
  Lochness Monster and the Soviet Union.
• 1:07:02
  Good God.
• 1:07:03
  Oh my God.
• 1:07:05
  Uh, I'm looking forward to reading both those books.
• 1:07:07
  Now.
• 1:07:07
  There's also that picture of the tall graves.
• 1:07:10
  Uh, what, what's that about?
• 1:07:12
  Well, that's, uh, rendition.
• 1:07:13
  I, I had AI do, uh, of the, um, from the spooky files
• 1:07:19
  Okay.
• 1:07:20
  Of that area 51.
• 1:07:21
  Gotcha.
• 1:07:22
  Okay.
• 1:07:24
  And the, the whole thing is, is that the best way to bring out truth without
• 1:07:31
  stepping on certain toes is to go ahead and do so and using fiction.
• 1:07:38
  Yeah.
• 1:07:39
  There we go.
• 1:07:39
  And I've done that with both, uh, the spooky files, uh,
• 1:07:44
  and with the, uh, Tyrus book.
• 1:07:47
  We're dealing with, um, things that deal with esoteric information that certain
• 1:07:54
  people do not want to be gotten out.
• 1:07:58
  And one thing before I before we end the, uh, interview for this time, uh, as a
• 1:08:05
  juicy precursor to the next interview.
• 1:08:08
  Oh,
• 1:08:08
  good.
• 1:08:09
  All right.
• 1:08:10
  I have been invited to join the Masonic order, in fact, the
• 1:08:16
  33rd and a third degree Mason.
• 1:08:19
  Try to recruit me in into the miss, uh, into the Masons.
• 1:08:24
  I had a weird meeting with a certain billionaire who was riding the
• 1:08:30
  same bus I was riding and I was talking about my Andy Gravity stuff.
• 1:08:35
  I need funding.
• 1:08:36
  Like I always tell people I need funding and uh, the guy came up
• 1:08:42
  from the center of the, uh, bus, came up and said, I'm interested.
• 1:08:46
  He was older gentleman, I'm interested.
• 1:08:49
  Tell me more.
• 1:08:50
  Wow.
• 1:08:51
  So I went out through the whole dissertation.
• 1:08:53
  He goes, do you know who I am?
• 1:08:55
  And I go, no.
• 1:08:57
  He goes do you know who Warren Buffett is?
• 1:09:01
  And I go, yeah, you're speaking with him.
• 1:09:05
  What do you know about Warren?
• 1:09:06
  He's one of the richest men in the world.
• 1:09:09
  Exactly.
• 1:09:09
  He said, wow.
• 1:09:11
  And then I'm going, and, and I'm, I'm being, I'm, I'll admit, I'm being
• 1:09:15
  a little bit skeptical at the time.
• 1:09:17
  I'm going, yeah, sure.
• 1:09:19
  You're, and, and then he here's what happened.
• 1:09:23
  It's hilarious.
• 1:09:24
  He goes, you can ask me any question.
• 1:09:26
  I'll answer it.
• 1:09:28
  So I asked him before I could ask the very first question, he goes,
• 1:09:32
  I know what you're gonna ask.
• 1:09:34
  Why is Warren B Buffett riding on a bus?
• 1:09:37
  And he goes, I said, yeah, that thought crossed my mind.
• 1:09:40
  And it, and he goes, he goes, how do you think I became rich?
• 1:09:44
  I go, you didn't spend money.
• 1:09:45
  He goes, exactly.
• 1:09:47
  And he goes Berkshire Hathaway at the time in the, in the eighties and or or
• 1:09:53
  eighties, nineties and early two thousands had went to a different city around the
• 1:09:57
  country for their stockholders meetings.
• 1:09:59
  Mm-hmm.
• 1:10:00
  Is what he told me.
• 1:10:00
  He goes, and I like riding the bus, get to meet interesting people like yourself.
• 1:10:05
  When we exchanged information at that point, and I was living in government
• 1:10:10
  housing at the time, and I received a letter from the Friends of Berg from
• 1:10:17
  Charlie Moore, the former head who's now passed away, and it was a official
• 1:10:24
  invitation to the Berg meeting in Calgary, Alberta, Canada, in 1998.
• 1:10:30
  Hmm.
• 1:10:30
  And I thought it was bull.
• 1:10:32
  I thought it was bull, but it turns out I didn't know it at the time.
• 1:10:36
  But Warren Buffet is a member of the Berg Group.
• 1:10:39
  And he was arranging for me to go so I could try to get funding for my research.
• 1:10:44
  Wow.
• 1:10:45
  And that's another connection, another segue we could get into.
• 1:10:51
  Yeah.
• 1:10:51
  Do you think those guys would've let you, uh, you know, keep some of that wealth?
• 1:10:55
  Or were they just gonna like Rob you like everybody else?
• 1:10:57
  What do you think?
• 1:10:59
  I think they had another, another scenario in mind.
• 1:11:03
  Good intentions.
• 1:11:05
  I don't know if it's good, but it was their intentions.
• 1:11:08
  I'll put it that way.
• 1:11:09
  Okay.
• 1:11:09
  Yeah.
• 1:11:10
  All right.
• 1:11:10
  Um, they knew about the looking glass reports.
• 1:11:14
  Yeah.
• 1:11:14
  I've heard, uh, there's like two different, uh, well, the good guys
• 1:11:18
  have it and the bad guys have it.
• 1:11:20
  They were wanting me to fulfill my destiny because they believe for some
• 1:11:24
  reason I have an important destiny.
• 1:11:27
  And that's why I think I met Warren Buffet.
• 1:11:29
  He sure it wasn't by accident that he showed up there and I, and came
• 1:11:34
  to talk to me, the crazy guy up front talking about any gravity to my friend.
• 1:11:39
  David, and all I'm thinking is he was sat there and also when I met the 33rd
• 1:11:45
  degree Mason working, um, selling home improvement products at Sam's Club,
• 1:11:52
  the guy came up to me and goes, I'm not gonna buy what you're selling.
• 1:11:56
  He goes, have you ever thought about joining the Macy's?
• 1:11:59
  No.
• 1:12:00
  He showed me, he was an aerospace engineer, showed me his identity
• 1:12:05
  card masonic ID card, and he told me a bit about, um, Sam Walton
• 1:12:11
  and how Sam started Sam's Club.
• 1:12:13
  Yeah.
• 1:12:13
  He
• 1:12:13
  got a, he got a loan from the Masonic order.
• 1:12:17
  Oh, wow.
• 1:12:17
  And
• 1:12:17
  trusting information.
• 1:12:18
  I, you know, I didn't know before.
• 1:12:20
  I didn't know that.
• 1:12:20
  He goes
• 1:12:21
  and he goes, and I've read all about
• 1:12:23
  Sam Walton.
• 1:12:24
  That's fascinating.
• 1:12:24
  That makes sense though.
• 1:12:25
  And, and he was a Mason.
• 1:12:27
  And, uh, and he showed me pictures of, uh, Sam and him, uh, before Sam passed away.
• 1:12:34
  He and Sam at a, at a lodge meeting.
• 1:12:38
  They were drinking and all I go, okay, that's cool.
• 1:12:41
  But he had approached me about joining and they don't go to anybody and
• 1:12:46
  approach them about joining the order.
• 1:12:48
  They,
• 1:12:48
  they don't, I've, I grew up in a family of Masons and Shriners and they said, if
• 1:12:53
  you want to get involved, you can, well you we're not gonna like, you know, push
• 1:12:57
  it and no one's gonna ever push it on you.
• 1:12:59
  And I was like, okay,
• 1:13:02
  well you tell me in your opinion, what do you think?
• 1:13:05
  Why do you think that they went ahead and approached me to join?
• 1:13:12
  Because they also have insights.
• 1:13:15
  Not all masons are bad.
• 1:13:17
  I can tell you that from my family history and some of the
• 1:13:20
  masons I met over the years.
• 1:13:22
  There're, there's bad in every, there's bad everywhere,
• 1:13:25
  and there's good everywhere.
• 1:13:27
  And, uh, you know, they've been infiltrated just like everything else.
• 1:13:30
  And so you have good masons, good people on high levels that want to bring out
• 1:13:35
  the good stuff, sometimes they get sabotaged and they sabotage the bad guys.
• 1:13:39
  So there's a lot of this going back and forth.
• 1:13:41
  So I think the good guys who are keeping you alive and who are interested in
• 1:13:47
  helping you succeed like myself, I'd love to see you succeed, but they're,
• 1:13:52
  you know, they have to play by certain rules, you know, it's just crazy.
• 1:13:58
  I, I don't, I don't quite comprehend or understand these
• 1:14:01
  rules, but I know they, they exist.
• 1:14:03
  So, uh, I think that you're, you know, being targeted.
• 1:14:06
  Now, I know people that have revealed stuff to their, like I have this one
• 1:14:12
  woman that I know that her husband who was former Air Force at a very high level
• 1:14:18
  and she didn't know that he was in this program and he shared it with her one
• 1:14:21
  night, and the next day he was gone.
• 1:14:24
  So they listen in on us all the time.
• 1:14:27
  Uh, they, they came to her, said, whatever, we know what he told you.
• 1:14:32
  Do not reveal it.
• 1:14:33
  And here's a bunch of money and be quiet.
• 1:14:37
  So, wow.
• 1:14:38
  Oh and also let me, uh, tell you this one thing I've had.
• 1:14:44
  Um, I was being harassed by a former friend of mine in Montana
• 1:14:49
  a while back about now, I guess it's been about 16 years ago.
• 1:14:54
  It's a girl I tried to help out of a situation.
• 1:14:58
  I have Asperger's or I'm on the autism spectrum, and, um, I see a problem.
• 1:15:05
  I want to try to fix it.
• 1:15:07
  You can't always fix problems, especially with other people.
• 1:15:10
  Sure.
• 1:15:10
  And you shouldn't, but that didn't.
• 1:15:14
  They, she harassed me and tried to have me arrested her and her cousin
• 1:15:19
  one time, and I was brought into the Montana State University police station.
• 1:15:25
  I hadn't done anything, but I was harassed by one of her, one of this
• 1:15:31
  girl's boyfriends who was a cop.
• 1:15:33
  They get me in the interrogation room.
• 1:15:35
  I'm there for about three hours, and the guy was running an NCIC check on me.
• 1:15:42
  He called the dispatcher.
• 1:15:43
  Do you, did you get that report?
• 1:15:45
  And she goes, he has A-W-C-Y-X-N code with 14 digits.
• 1:15:50
  I, I don't remember the actual digits on it.
• 1:15:54
  And he goes, what the hell does that mean?
• 1:15:56
  And he goes she goes, Brian, it's a federal do not hold, do not detain order.
• 1:16:03
  How the hell did he get that on his file?
• 1:16:05
  She goes, I don't know, but if I were you, I would let him go.
• 1:16:08
  It won't well for you if you don't.
• 1:16:12
  And I brought that up for a reason.
• 1:16:14
  I mean, to me, I think I'm a nobody, you know, I don't think I'm any more
• 1:16:21
  special than you or anyone else, you know?
• 1:16:23
  Yeah.
• 1:16:24
  But because of what looking Glass told people and what the reports have stated.
• 1:16:30
  Mm-hmm.
• 1:16:31
  And I was gonna ask you, maybe you can help me glean this.
• 1:16:35
  I haven't been able to ascertain what exactly the billing meant
• 1:16:43
  by geopolitical in nature
• 1:16:47
  and what that could mean and what that could possibly entail.
• 1:16:54
  So my, my impression when I heard that was that you're gonna be helping to, to
• 1:16:59
  tear down the old system, so geopolitical, so it's a, yeah, like you've talked
• 1:17:06
  about, it's, uh, the military industrial complex is actually around the world.
• 1:17:10
  Uh, totally makes sense.
• 1:17:12
  Uh, so that the evil side of that, like we've been talking
• 1:17:14
  about, there's good, there's evil.
• 1:17:16
  The evil side of that is being taken systematically, being taken down.
• 1:17:20
  At some point, I believe you're gonna be involved when it's safe for you to come
• 1:17:26
  out and reveal this information, uh, that you know, and I, and I know once
• 1:17:29
  you get involved in it, you're gonna come up with more and more and more.
• 1:17:32
  And there's other people probably gonna get involved with you
• 1:17:34
  that are different levels.
• 1:17:35
  And that group that you're gonna be involved with in the future I see,
• 1:17:39
  uh, is gonna be, uh, substantial in inventing our, bringing forth, uh, you
• 1:17:46
  know, technologies that have been, you know, kept from us for a long time.
• 1:17:51
  Oh, I agree.
• 1:17:52
  And here's what I've been gleaming and even with my abilities, 'cause
• 1:17:58
  I'm highly empathic as well.
• 1:18:00
  Yeah.
• 1:18:01
  I
• 1:18:02
  can sense emotion and even sometimes read thoughts.
• 1:18:06
  For example, John Brandenburg was handed a contract,
• 1:18:12
  uh, to do a research paper, but they told him, don't apply that
• 1:18:17
  to an experiment, just write it.
• 1:18:22
  I believe that they know that there is one person, one inventor from their looking
• 1:18:28
  glass reports that will be the one that will bring forth these technologies.
• 1:18:35
  Mm-hmm.
• 1:18:36
  And they're waiting for that one person to be able to do it.
• 1:18:41
  Now, I don't know if that's me or whomever it might be, but I would
• 1:18:47
  say honestly, it might be me, but I'm not gonna guarantee it.
• 1:18:52
  There's been a lot of people putting road blocks in my path.
• 1:18:56
  Mm-hmm.
• 1:18:56
  Ron Pen did quite a bit.
• 1:19:01
  Associates of his at Core were a part of that.
• 1:19:05
  They've been gleaming my information, farming it out to other researchers
• 1:19:10
  group called the a. You know, you've heard of apec, have you not?
• 1:19:14
  Oh, yeah.
• 1:19:14
  Their
• 1:19:16
  group is being partially funded through government sources.
• 1:19:19
  FIA help with from Ron Penal, and they've been taking ideas that I came up with as
• 1:19:26
  one of several o other, um, researchers and inventors and trying to replicate it.
• 1:19:33
  And one of the things is Mark SoCal, uh, the guy who's quote the head of the
• 1:19:39
  group, may, may have, from what I've heard, connections to the Israeli Mossad.
• 1:19:46
  Hmm.
• 1:19:46
  He is, um, an Orthodox Jew.
• 1:19:48
  He, uh, has been to Israel.
• 1:19:52
  Uh, there was a questionable death of an ex-girlfriend of his who died, was a NASA
• 1:19:58
  researcher in the field of anti gravity.
• 1:20:01
  And Ron has been pushing and promoting them over me and has been working
• 1:20:12
  diligently to circumvent funding from me and to into their coffer core.
• 1:20:19
  And I know that for a fact because ironically, and we're talking white
• 1:20:24
  hat operatives, a member of core, I don't know who it is, but there's
• 1:20:30
  not, not any of the higher members, but members that are, have branched
• 1:20:36
  out during one of the two of the core meetings remotely accessed Ron's phone.
• 1:20:43
  Activated it.
• 1:20:44
  Dialed my number, put it on mute so I could hear the conversation.
• 1:20:51
  I was trying to get funding from a, um, venture capital
• 1:20:55
  firm, a few about 10 years ago.
• 1:21:00
  And I told Rod about it because I needed his help to write a business proposal.
• 1:21:05
  He said, oh, I'll, I'll help you.
• 1:21:07
  But then I heard the conversation, the statements in the conversation.
• 1:21:12
  I didn't know who else was there.
• 1:21:15
  I remember two voices other than Ron's that I, that later on I found out who
• 1:21:22
  they were, clapper and Brennan, they were in on that meeting and there was a
• 1:21:28
  third person I'm gonna call Mr. Mr. X.
• 1:21:34
  I heard his voice.
• 1:21:35
  I haven't, I didn't recognize it, so I don't know who it was.
• 1:21:38
  Okay.
• 1:21:39
  But Ron, uh, they asked him is he go going to get funding?
• 1:21:43
  He goes, well, he is talking to a venture capital firm, but I tell you
• 1:21:47
  what, I'll make sure to circumvent the funding away from him and to our
• 1:21:52
  coffers, and I'm going, you, I, I, yeah.
• 1:21:57
  You know what I mean?
• 1:21:57
  So there, Ron, I think he's the dutiful soldier.
• 1:22:04
  He does what he's told to do.
• 1:22:07
  And you worked in the agency before.
• 1:22:10
  That man was a, was a agent for over 40 years of an analyst
• 1:22:15
  for over 40 years of his life.
• 1:22:19
  He was connected to.
• 1:22:21
  And you've heard of Gordon Novell, have you not?
• 1:22:24
  Mm-hmm.
• 1:22:26
  Or have you heard of Gordon?
• 1:22:27
  Yeah.
• 1:22:29
  He and Gordon were in like Flynn.
• 1:22:32
  They were two peas in the same pod.
• 1:22:35
  I knew Gordon before Gordon died.
• 1:22:38
  Hmm.
• 1:22:39
  Gordon tried to protect me from Ron.
• 1:22:42
  It turns out later.
• 1:22:44
  And there was an assassination attempt that they were a part of, of
• 1:22:49
  a presidential candidate who later on became president that they weren't gonna
• 1:22:56
  kill, but they wanted to scare him.
• 1:23:00
  And I'm not gonna see who that candidate was, but let's just say he
• 1:23:04
  came, he came from Chicago, Illinois.
• 1:23:07
  And, um, I knew about that.
• 1:23:09
  I had to report it to a, um, secret service agent by
• 1:23:13
  the name of Brian P. O'Neal.
• 1:23:15
  And we discussed it and told him what happened.
• 1:23:19
  Let's just say that I was being, I was being targeted
• 1:23:22
  to be the quote Patsy in that.
• 1:23:26
  Wow.
• 1:23:27
  And thankfully, thank God above, I got out out of, uh, California when
• 1:23:32
  I did, because it was soon after that to that particular candidate.
• 1:23:37
  They cut his secret service contingent down and they left blind spots open.
• 1:23:44
  He was in San Diego, California doing a rally, and that's where the
• 1:23:50
  potential hit was going to happen.
• 1:23:52
  However, because I got out of there and they didn't have a ready made
• 1:23:57
  person to take my place, it stopped it.
• 1:24:01
  Wow.
• 1:24:02
  And I'm thankful and I thank God above for that.
• 1:24:05
  I remember when Brian asked me and I had tried to report it you've heard of Dan
• 1:24:09
  Burish having not, or Dan Crane, Dan Bur,
• 1:24:11
  yep.
• 1:24:13
  Well, I tried to email Dan Burch at his, um, actual email
• 1:24:17
  address, and it got blocked and my email got bounced back in it.
• 1:24:22
  I wrote him a and I said, I have some information that they may be trying
• 1:24:26
  to make me another Lee Harvey Oswell.
• 1:24:28
  That's how I wrote the email.
• 1:24:32
  Well, it bounced back, so I I didn't think he got it.
• 1:24:34
  He, if he did, I'm not sure, but there is some truth to the fact
• 1:24:38
  that Dan Crane Burish was working for the NSA and here's why.
• 1:24:45
  I know Brian Peele O'Neal came in about a week and a half later, walked
• 1:24:51
  right into my apartment complex, knocked on my door, and Brian P.
• 1:24:56
  O'Neal was special agent out of the B or Billings, uh, secret Service Office.
• 1:25:02
  He sat down with me in my apartment, talked to me for about 45
• 1:25:05
  minutes, repeated himself at Naum.
• 1:25:09
  Asking me, well, do you want to do any harm to this man?
• 1:25:12
  I said, no, sir, I don't.
• 1:25:14
  Okay, well why do, why didn't you contact us directly?
• 1:25:17
  I said, members of the US Intelligence community were a part of this.
• 1:25:23
  And I said, I wanna protect myself and my family.
• 1:25:26
  He goes, I understand.
• 1:25:29
  And he repeated the same thing over and over again.
• 1:25:31
  I'm not gonna go over that too much, but I helped to thwart that, which I'm
• 1:25:37
  thinking that Ron and his people are not white hat op white hat operatives.
• 1:25:45
  They're more like, I don't know if you'd call 'em Black hat operatives
• 1:25:51
  or somewhere in the gray area.
• 1:25:53
  But they have been trying their best, even Ron tried to get Keith Klu a
• 1:26:01
  journalist that works for Wired Magazine.
• 1:26:04
  And Keith is a, uh, Mockingbird journalist.
• 1:26:08
  He's on contract, under contract with the CIA.
• 1:26:12
  Right.
• 1:26:13
  And they were gonna run a hit piece on me until, and I'm not gonna get into
• 1:26:18
  detail about what I, information I have until I told 'em, if you release this
• 1:26:23
  information, I've got information on Ron.
• 1:26:26
  I'll counter it.
• 1:26:27
  Mm. So he can back down.
• 1:26:30
  But what they're doing is one side is trying to keep me from doing what I need
• 1:26:35
  to do while the other side is trying to do what they can to help promote me.
• 1:26:42
  And all I am, I just want to be
• 1:26:46
  a father, a grandfather, leave something for my family mm-hmm.
• 1:26:50
  For my daughter.
• 1:26:51
  And my grandsons
• 1:26:55
  pay for my funeral when I die.
• 1:26:59
  And live.
• 1:27:00
  I guess I'll never live a quote.
• 1:27:02
  Normal life.
• 1:27:03
  Never.
• 1:27:03
  I don't think so.
• 1:27:04
  I I never have, all throughout my school years I was being watched.
• 1:27:09
  Uh, we would move around a lot and every school I go to, a federal government, uh,
• 1:27:16
  person would come in and do cognitive and IQ tests on me at every school I went to.
• 1:27:21
  Wow.
• 1:27:22
  They were keeping track tabs on me, even when I was a boy.
• 1:27:26
  Unbelievable.
• 1:27:27
  And one of the last times I had a, uh, military helicopter when I lived in
• 1:27:32
  Roswell, New Mexico back in 2 0 0 7
• 1:27:38
  my father, I won't get into that, but it had to deal with an issue I had with
• 1:27:43
  my father and certain gang members were doing drive-bys towards me because of it.
• 1:27:49
  Um, it got to a point where they had, uh, military gunship.
• 1:27:56
  Hovering over my roof with turn pointed down towards the street.
• 1:28:03
  Geez.
• 1:28:03
  And I had a witness to that.
• 1:28:04
  It happened several times.
• 1:28:06
  They were making sure that nothing happened to me.
• 1:28:08
  They were protecting me.
• 1:28:11
  So I know for a fact that there are people out there, former Navy
• 1:28:16
  Seals former, uh, special operators who are trying to protect me.
• 1:28:23
  And for all those people who were out there, I don't know what your
• 1:28:26
  names are and whom you might be, but God bless you and thank you so much.
• 1:28:34
  Absolutely.
• 1:28:35
  I, I can't tell you how grateful I'm for all the help you gave me and all
• 1:28:39
  the effort and time you put out and potentially putting yourself at risk.
• 1:28:44
  Thank you so much.
• 1:28:46
  That's beautiful.
• 1:28:47
  So if there's anything more you wanna talk about, I'm sorry, went off more, but,
• 1:28:51
  uh, yeah, let's, let's, uh, break it off here and, uh, we'll get this up.
• 1:28:56
  Uh, we'll get a lot of interest on this one, I'm sure.
• 1:28:58
  So, can I get you interview one interview?
• 1:29:01
  That'd be great.
• 1:29:02
  But yeah, this is, uh, this has been fan.
• 1:29:04
  Fantastic, Paul.
• 1:29:05
  Thanks a lot.
• 1:29:07
  Well,
• 1:29:07
  before we do anything,
• 1:29:08
  can I give them my, um, GoFundMe page?
• 1:29:13
  Absolutely.
• 1:29:13
  Yeah, we'll put that in the description box too.
• 1:29:15
  Let let us know what is it.
• 1:29:17
  Okay, it's go, no, it's not GoFundMe, it's Gibson go.com
• 1:29:22
  Gibson.
• 1:29:22
  Go.
• 1:29:22
  Okay.
• 1:29:23
  Slash Paul Price Funds.
• 1:29:27
  Paul Price Funds.
• 1:29:27
  Okay.
• 1:29:28
  Gibson, go Paul.
• 1:29:30
  Price Funds.
• 1:29:31
  Yeah.
• 1:29:31
  Okay.
• 1:29:33
  Very good.
• 1:29:33
  Yes.
• 1:29:35
  Hey, and it's, and I hope that I can talk to you, uh, not being interviewed,
• 1:29:40
  but, uh, one-on-one, one day.
• 1:29:43
  Definitely.
• 1:29:44
  Yeah.
• 1:29:44
  I know you've talked to my wife quite a bit, so, and she's pretty,
• 1:29:47
  pretty amazed by you, so Yeah.
• 1:29:49
  That'll be great.
• 1:29:52
  Thanks Paul.
• 1:29:53
  It's been, it's been an honor and a pleasure.
• 1:29:55
  Same.
• 1:29:55
  Absolutely.
• 1:29:56
  Thank you
• 1:29:57
  and have a good day.
• 1:29:58
  Thank you.
• 1:29:59
  Thank you.
• 1:30:00
  Okay.