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Episode 83: Breaking Down the Kadavo Arc, Part 1: "Kidnapped" · Most Things Kenobi - A Star Wars Podcast

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  Hello. Then it's time for most things
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  Kenobi. Shouldn't it be all things
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  Kenobi. Hmm.
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  Hi, everyone, welcome to another episode of most.
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  Thanks Kenobi. A podcast about Obi-Wan Kenobi
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  and all things. Star Wars.
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  I'm your host Leanne and I'm your host Lauren in this week,
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  is the beginning of us going through the entire zygerria.
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  Kadavo mess greatness. Yes!
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  Probably my second favorite Arc. In all of Clone Wars, it's
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  definitely a go to I know every time you and I Listen or a
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  listen to it. Watch it together, we're always
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  like good job. Oh yes, yes.
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  It I think only the point rain Arc tops it for me, but we're
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  starting with the episode kidnapped in which Obi-Wan has a
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  delightful part in. One of our favorites and Anakin
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  as well. Which we'll talk about.
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  Yes. Yeah, it's a really good episode
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  for all of the characters, it's very satisfying.
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  Yep, poor ahsoka's just left confused for most of the episode
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  because there's so much going on that she was never privy to poor
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  Ahsoka throughout this entire Arc.
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  Honestly, honestly, it's and like I told you, I have the
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  comic book that this Arc is based on, yes, and they even
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  made things better. Better for her and the TV show
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  compared to the comic the kind of disease the kind of takes
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  things into a weird area so I can they they pulled it back a
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  little bit for the show which is kind of crazy.
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  The comic is called what slaves of the Republic.
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  It's called slaves of the Republic.
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  It's like a miniature comic book.
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  Look at the art on the back. Oh, Chains like tattered, like,
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  there's even like holes in his Under Armour leggings.
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  It's crazy. Wow.
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  I need, I actually need to read this and Anakin has an eye patch
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  and eye patch. It's why I don't know.
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  I love that. It's fantastic.
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  Like, the Arts kind of goofy, but I love it and there's like a
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  left out chapter. That makes part of the show.
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  Make a little bit more sense where They get this, I geryon
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  ship. Oh, okay.
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  And it's like, oh, that's how they got it.
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  Yes. Yes.
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  We never really are privy to that, but we'll get to all that.
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  Yeah, this is a fun Arc. I kind of love deep diving into
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  each episode of The Arc. Yeah, I do too.
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  It starts off with a bang with this one.
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  I'm just going to say to okay, here, my heater kicking on.
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  I usually turn my heat and my air conditioning off for
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  recording. Oh, no.
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  Keep it on, but I'm not. Hey, cuz it's like, nope, - 20
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  outside. So it's entirely too cold to
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  turn the heat off. Yes.
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  Knowing like a bitch here. So yeah, it's no dies on all
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  night and now the it's Sub-Zero temperatures and freezing wind.
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  So I'm not for the sake of my house, I am not turning the heat
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  up. That's fine.
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  That's fine. Well, Obi-Wan getting the shit.
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  Kicked out of them, will keep things warm for us.
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  Because I love that part of this episode.
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  I do too. I mean, it's like the whole
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  episode, basically. I just so, yes, the overview is
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  the to Groot and colonists on keros, right?
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  They contact us Yoda saying that the separatists have arrived and
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  Count Dooku is offering them some sort of sanctuary
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  quote-unquote during their occupation and Yoda says, don't
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  trust him, don't do that. And he's like it's too late.
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  He's here. And of course, right.
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  He arrives with his a giri in which we have never seen before
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  in Clone Wars know and we love the look of the zygerrians.
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  They are so cool. In fact, you know how we've
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  always asked, like, what are they?
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  Exactly. Hmm.
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  Do you know what? They're actually described as.
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  No, a humanoid feline species that evolved from a horned
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  sentient, canine species. So figure that out.
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  Whoa, that makes sense though because they are there.
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  Kind of like a cat, but then they also have like a wolfish
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  disc. Yeah.
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  Yeah. They got another whore looking
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  like, I was noticing, they have horns along their jaw line, and
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  I was like, if I had that, I would cut myself all the time.
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  Forget giving yourself a nice moisturizing.
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  Self-care moment in the evening, cut your hand.
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  But no, they're cool. Looking as hell, their outfits
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  are And I love their, like, Spanish accents to our great.
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  Yeah, as I giri itself is really cool.
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  I know, we're in quiroz on in this episode but the bulk of
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  these two episodes take place and xij area and the whole look
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  of the mesas and the temples and the everything it's very, I love
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  it. I love the look of everything.
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  I love the costumes that Anakin and Ahsoka where and it's very
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  like it's obvious. It was all built on the back of
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  Waves, which is why Anakin's so angry throughout this whole Arc
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  and in fact, I think this is the first time that Ahsoka learns of
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  his slave background. Yeah.
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  And this first episode in this Arc.
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  Yeah, I always thought that was kind of interesting, how long
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  have they been together? And yeah, to be in Intimate
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  contact, you know, where you're like fighting together?
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  Probably sleeping on the ground outside together.
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  Yeah. They this never even if it does
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  come up and can won't. Occupied in like four years.
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  She has no idea about his background.
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  There has to be some rumor Mills in the temple, right?
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  You probably hear about Anakin at some point if you're coming
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  up in the temple. Yeah, like, oh, he's the slave
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  that came in from when he was like 10 or something.
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  Right? When you hear about that,
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  especially if he was your bastard.
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  Yeah, you would hear some grumblings, but only one just
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  catches like, oh, yeah, he came from a background.
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  It a bad background, just Never mind him.
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  It's very casual, but that was kind of an interesting moment to
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  to hear Obi-Wan talk about it because, right?
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  No one ever talks about it, really?
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  And that's the problem. Yes, it's part of the whole
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  problem with Star Wars, is, people don't just talk to each
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  other and they don't like, no one ever.
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  I think a few therapy sessions with Anakin would have done
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  wonders so that he could talk about it.
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  Yeah, because here he is being thrust into whose idea was this
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  first of all, to send a former slave into a Slave.
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  You know, a slave ridden problem, right?
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  Such as this if this was any like cereal, detective show that
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  have been like, you're too close to this.
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  You gotta get off this case. Yeah, no, he's too sensitive.
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  He could do something out of control, which he does.
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  Yeah, he handles himself surprisingly.
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  Well, once he's on xij area. Yeah, I mean, he has some
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  moments, but for the most part. Yeah, he keeps it mostly under
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  control it. Pretty much just surfaces in
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  this episode. It's one of my favorite moments.
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  Oh yeah, I love Clone Wars is the end of this episode when
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  he's in the ship. Yes, I love that, too.
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  I rewind that moment just as much as I rewind, the several
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  others that are, you know, Obi-Wan igniting his lightsaber
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  Point rain and Obi-Wan leading those giant ticks away from the
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  innocence of Rye lock. You know, all the key moments
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  that we re watch. I re-watched the Anakin getting
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  like in the face of the Jedi geryon dude on the ship just as
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  much. Yeah it's like fucking love it.
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  It's Awesome. It's one of those moments where
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  he slips. So much that even Ahsoka is
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  like, who are you? Her eyes are like, hmm.
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  Like what the fuck. Not only that, but he's holding
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  a lightsaber to his neck, like he's about to gonna kill him.
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  Yeah, I love that. I love that so much.
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  And here's why it's boiling over at this point, and you could
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  argue that he's Justified, because he has this bad
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  background, and they threw him into this.
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  And he's letting his emotions get to him, but you can start to
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  see a little Vader slipping through the cracks.
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  I love it. Yeah, but I also love Matt
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  lanters voice. Yes.
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  Mmm. Like, when he's in the face of
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  the zai Jian, you must tell me or whatever.
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  He says, like yeah, you growls so hard.
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  It is. It's really.
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  It's very sexy. This is this, after the Citadel.
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  Whoo, it is right? Because remember that
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  conversation that Anakin and Tarkin have about the Jedi not
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  going far enough? Oh, that's true.
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  I feel like that happened prior to this.
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  Yeah, he loses his shit in the Citadel as well.
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  Like, when he's interrogating. No, that's a different Arc.
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  Yeah. That's like Susan to I think
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  with pagal. Yeah, so he's well into losing
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  his shit, I love it, it's sprinkled throughout Clone Wars
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  very carefully moment, like they choose moments very carefully to
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  like let that control slip, so that it becomes more believable.
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  Later, when he loses all control, it's pretty
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  interesting. I okay, I still can't believe
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  that Obi-Wan knows about the zai.
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  Jian. Tradition of settling conflicts
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  with hand-to-hand fighting, how does he know by this shit?
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  I don't know. But he's basically signed
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  himself up to do it. Yeah.
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  And like, he's like just a sucker for punishment at this
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  point. When the seat, when I first
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  watched this show and I the conversation started to shift,
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  I'm like, is this gonna be like a fist fight?
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  Well, it's a one-sided fist, fight for a lot.
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  Yeah, and I guess like re-watching it now.
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  I kind of realized that he's doing that on purpose.
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  What? He's trying to drag it out,
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  right? Yeah.
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  So could have to go disable all those bombs and stuff which I
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  kind of love. I love that they go and they
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  work as a team and yeah you know there's the what are they
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  Droidekas up on the ceiling and the roof top and there you know
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  they have to think about. It's a puzzle.
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  I like stuff like that. I just love when Anakin and
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  Ahsoka are in their element and they're left alone to like be
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  the duo that they are. Ya kid.
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  And it's cool because Anakin is very you can see him being the
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  good Mentor and he's in control and he's actually solving the
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  problem. Like he, it was an educated.
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  Guess, you know, when he was a bum, then to see him flip at the
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  end, where he like, loses control is pretty interesting to
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  see. I just, I just love that.
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  The entire episode is basically over when hitting the living
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  shit. Kicked out of him.
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  That poor pretty face of his just takes up.
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  Eating is covered in Bruises by then it's and he's like, come
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  on, Anakin like, hurry up. I don't have all day in here.
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  It's pretty, it's pretty funny. You know, the name of the zai
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  Jian who beats his ass. Yeah, it's darts to know our.
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  Yeah. That's a terrible name.
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  Darts dinar. Yeah, I don't know.
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  Danara is, is that not a middle eastern form of currency?
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  Oh, is it? Yeah.
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  Well I didn't know. Don't ask Ask me why I know
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  that. But I do.
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  Well, I love the little moments of comedy in the fight to wear,
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  like dinar gets the phone call like twice transfer.
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  Oh yeah, right. I'm busy here are moments, like
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  don't interrupt me. He's like choking 0, b 1.
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  And this like, what is it? What do you want?
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  Yeah. Oh my God, doesn't he get the
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  phone call? One of the phone calls when he
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  realizes that Anakin and Ahsoka have succeeded?
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  Or does he just press that button?
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  No, he gets the the call and then he goes and like, presses
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  the button and nothing had. Okay, yeah.
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  Yeah. I love that.
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  And I love that. And that's when.
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  Yeah. Woman's a lot more, both like,
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  oh yes. Yeah, we're both.
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  Like freaking out here. Open one.
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  You want to describe the the greatest moment.
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  Oh my God. It was so satisfying.
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  It's like after he realizes. Okay.
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  Indicated Ahsoka finished their task, he just gets up literally
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  brushes himself off, reaches out with the fours.
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  It crushes, all the droids in the room with his It's so, so
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  it's good. Oh my God.
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  And that's how we know that. He just basically was messing
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  with Dinara the whole time. He could have won the fight,
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  anytime he wanted to and then he gets his lightsaber.
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  It says shall we discuss Your Surrender again?
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  So yes. Yes and it's the delivery of
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  that line. Thank you, James Arnold Taylor
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  for your expertise at your job. It's so satisfying.
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  The whole thing is great. It's Cheeky everything about it
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  is so cheeky. Where is Rex during all of this?
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  I forget, he's there at the beginning.
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  He is on the little motorcycle things that the bike thing.
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  Yeah, he's on the side cart with Obi-Wan, but then the rest of
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  the episode is Cody. So yes, I don't know.
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  You don't see Rex too much until later.
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  He goes with them on the rest of the mission, which I think is
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  interesting that they chose Rex instead of Cody to do that.
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  Mission. Where did Cody go.
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  I don't, I don't know. If do you think Cody would have
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  actually done? What Rex did in the episodes
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  later in this Arc? I don't know.
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  That's a really good question because they're not the same
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  personality. I think.
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  Rex would have done it. I don't know that Cody would
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  have, I think if ordered Cody would have done it?
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  But I don't know that he would have just thrown a spear and
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  delivered a line like Rex. Yeah.
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  No, I think it's very rex that moment and honestly but who
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  knows because they had he had seen a lot of horrific stuff by
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  that time and they are soldiers like their their point is to
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  fight I guess. But you know with Clone Wars
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  there 99% of the time fighting droids and not look like living
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  sentient being so that's true. That's true.
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  Yeah, it was kind of a well, that's a great moment.
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  I can't wait to talk about. Yeah, it that this Arc delivers
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  some really impressive, not a kid show moments.
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  Seriously is like on Tumblr it's referred to as the kinky Arc
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  because it is it's like whips and bondage the entire time.
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  It's so cages Anakin whispering things, we still don't know.
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  I'm still waiting to know. Yeah.
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  Kelly Whispers to the queen. Like there's a lot of fighting
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  there's bruises. And is there blood?
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  Yeah. It's one of the, it's the few
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  episodes Obi-Wan, is blood, like all in his beard, bloody Cuts.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're a Mess by the end of
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  this. They are literally tattered
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  clothing, bloody faces. It's pretty gruesome for a kid
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  show. Something that I thought was
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  kind of interesting was, they don't show a Soca.
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  Did our she it's just like a given that it's no problem.
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  She like handles it on the ship. Oh yeah.
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  Yeah I guess so. It's I guess so they show Anakin
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  fighting that creature and a cage with a million tentacles.
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  I really hate that thing I do too and I hate also that they
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  had to kill it. Like I've I know all those
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  animals in cages, I hate all of that but like, is that the same
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  creature that we see in Rogue one that slides, the Goes over
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  the what's his name? Bodie.
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  Bodie wonder the same thing wondered because this is got
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  like the flat paddle hands almost.
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  But does it ever have to face? I don't know.
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  Yeah, don't it's somewhere between the thing that.
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  Oh my God, I can't remember the name of anything today.
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  The thing that eats Boba Fett do this.
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  Yeah there's it's like somewhere between That because it has like
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  a mouth with teeth and it's drooling.
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  Then it's also somewhere in the thing that like suffer that Bode
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  suffers beneath. And yeah, and it's got its got
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  like tentacles but also like crab claws.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  Like the padded pincher. Yeah, it's weird.
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  It's really weird and it just completely took over an account
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  like he was he was struggling. And my point this is stabs at
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  like right through its Mouth or what?
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  Yeah that I can't actually can't watch.
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  I don't like it really, I really tried to look away.
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  It's gross. Yeah, I mean, do what you got to
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  do to save yourself and can put like how gross he's left the
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  birds, though, the birds of the battle of those birds, the birds
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  and I know what they are. Do you know what they're called?
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  Let's look it up. Conv, oars trans duck
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  trandoshan, Birds really, that's what they're called, a beautiful
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  Regal and elegant out. I agree.
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  I always think they look like they have 1960s glasses on.
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  They do. They do there?
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  Elton John glasses. Oh my God.
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  Yes, they are. Literally job Birds.
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  They're tiny little Elton John Birds, but there they come in
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  various colors. They're carnivorous, they feed
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  on insects and rodents, they live in Tree Tops.
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  And in jungles convo reasons, were popular as pets throughout
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  the See conferees were very similar in appearance to the
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  Kiros birds from the planet Kiros who also possessed
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  grabbing Tails. They have grabby Tails a so
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  there's some like so the pink and blue ones are they or their
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  curos Birds but you're right. They do look really similar to
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  the Convoy or which isn't that what follows.
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  Yes exactly and follows us so follows a Sokka.
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  Yeah so that's kind of nice, I like that.
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  That's interesting, Heroes Birds.
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  Well, there's so cute. An Elegant species, highly
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  intelligent and capable of understanding conversation.
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  Guess they heard Anakin whispering to goddamn, Queen
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  Mirage. And we don't know what he said.
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  Can they interpret for me? Can they speak of ever?
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  They can tell you what they heard.
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  They're so beautiful, and they have this like very Coy little
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  smile on their face and their little ground.
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  You're so right. Those are Elton John eyes, the
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  Glasses. Well, you know, the only thing
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  missing is rhinestones. That's it.
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  That is the only thing which we could get him some rhinestones
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  on ons. IG really?
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  Yeah, they gotta have some just laying around.
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  I'm sure that's amazing. Yeah, I want one of these.
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  They're adorable. They're so cute.
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  Ok, so the more I, the more I is what follows Ahsoka also part of
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  the convoys species. So there's several different
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  types. So a convoy or is like an owl
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  owl. And then they have like multiple
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  kinds of. Yeah.
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  And they all have a grabby tail and two claws per foot, just
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  saying to Talons, they're all so lovely.
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  I love these birds to make porridge look like trash, right?
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  Right though. Poor guys are kind of not
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  intelligent. I don't.
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  Well, there's a picture of them next to each other and it's just
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  like, oh yeah. Porks look.
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  A little Dowdy and frumpy a to converse.
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  Yeah. Is this the first time we see a
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  common whore? That's a good question.
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  I don't know. First appearance is in Padawan
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  lost. Really, that's what it says,
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  according to Wikipedia Padawan lost.
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  That's the one where Ahsoka is taken by hunters, right?
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  Yeah, it's so interesting. Then again, that's only a
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  condor. Not, not a hero's bird or a more
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  rice. Why let's look up Keke rosberg.
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  First appearance. Kidnapped is the first
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  appearance that we see these. Elton John glasses, Birds the
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  purple and blue, and then slaves of the Republic.
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  And then the more ride their first appearance, is the mystery
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  of Chopper base Star Wars Rebels, really well, it says
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  here Star Wars Clone Wars Victory and death.
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  But the first appearance is Mystery of Chopper base.
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  That makes sense because season 7 came out after, okay, well,
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  the sister in the mortise Arc is kind of like a more I add
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  steroids. She's terrifying when she turns
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  her bird, yes, I just want to know what his felonious.
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  Talked about why the more I becomes part of a Sokka like why
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  there's a convoy or am or I, or whatever always circling around
• 21:47
  her back to zygerrians. There were actually two zai
• 21:51
  geryon Jedi really in the history of Jedi.
• 21:55
  Yes, that you always come with the good, tid bits of info.
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  I, try so far Zola, terrible served as a Padawan of the Jedi
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  Order during the high Republic area.
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  And then another Others. I geryon female named tosun,
• 22:12
  tosun tosun. She was a Jedi master who served
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  the Jedi Order and the galactic Republic by the time following
• 22:18
  the Battle of Naboo. So, she's actually pretty
• 22:20
  fucking recent. Wow, that's interesting.
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  So there are two known zhèige Aryans who did not hate the Jedi
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  or the Republic. And those are the only two going
• 22:30
  to say. Cuz the that's like a big part
• 22:32
  of especially what dinar keeps talking about while he and
• 22:35
  Obi-Wan are fighting that he wants to take revenge for his
• 22:38
  people and how the Jedi Basically, because they stopped
• 22:41
  the slave trading of the zygerrians but not the Huts that
• 22:47
  like I ruined their culture and took all their power and he
• 22:51
  wants revenge for that. It's so interesting that they
• 22:54
  their allies with the HUD. So they don't do anything, you
• 22:59
  know, to fight their slavery but they had no problem taking on
• 23:02
  the zygerrians. Will you bring up an interesting
• 23:05
  point about the Huts that just goes to show you if you have
• 23:08
  enough money? E in power and influence.
• 23:10
  You can get away with stuff but not judge, you know.
• 23:13
  Yeah. Like why were the Hutt's allowed
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  to just exist? I don't know.
• 23:17
  It's kind of like how the mafia exists.
• 23:19
  Yeah. It's like, you just don't talk
• 23:21
  about them, you know, they're out there.
• 23:22
  You can't stop them. But just if just turn your, just
• 23:25
  turn your head, a little to the right and again, for them.
• 23:28
  Yeah, you know, it's fine, money and power and influence their
• 23:31
  even kind of portrayed like mafioso.
• 23:34
  Like in the Clone Wars the episode with Quinlan Vos when
• 23:37
  they go and there's like yeah. That stereotype of like the
• 23:43
  cigar and the moustache in the, yeah, like The Godfather.
• 23:47
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 23:52
  There's someone is even doing a Marlon, Brando impression like
• 23:55
  impersonation and with one of the Huts.
• 23:57
  So it's pretty like over what they're doing there and implying
• 24:01
  that it's like Moshe, I mean, it makes it makes it so it's
• 24:06
  interesting because they gave Qui-Gon so much shit.
• 24:09
  About Anakin, right? There's even more like talk
• 24:12
  about that in master-apprentice. How like after well actually I
• 24:16
  guess that's prior to Phantom Menace and there's an experience
• 24:20
  that he has in that book, that makes him feel like more
• 24:23
  strongly about. Why doesn't the Republic do
• 24:27
  anything about slavery? Yeah yeah it's interesting that
• 24:30
  at some point they did I guess I wonder how long ago that
• 24:34
  happened was they jury. I like if it was like back
• 24:36
  during the hive Republic or if it was like a more recent Thing.
• 24:40
  Well, it says the zygerrians maintain slave labor industry
• 24:43
  for thousand of years basically. Prior to, I mean they were they
• 24:48
  existed at their height in the Old Republic and then the Old
• 24:52
  Republic, judicial Forces, help the Jedi police, I giri until
• 24:55
  it's slave trade was destroyed. So they went way back.
• 24:59
  Interesting does IG reinterred slave trade and then they got
• 25:03
  cracked down enough and I mean they kind of brought it on
• 25:05
  themselves for making an alliance with Dooku.
• 25:08
  No good. Can come from.
• 25:09
  That even though it's all false promises and will big facade,
• 25:13
  it's just one more thing for Palpatine to be getting his paws
• 25:19
  into. Like how does he keep track of
• 25:22
  all this shit is this? I don't know.
• 25:25
  He has Has the foresight. I don't know.
• 25:28
  Maybe. Maybe it's his use of the force
• 25:31
  that he can see. Maybe he has more plates
• 25:34
  spinning. I don't know.
• 25:36
  You just solve this and used it. Like it's so fucking crazy.
• 25:40
  It really is it's on another level.
• 25:42
  So to wrap this up kidnapped is basically about Obi-Wan Kenobi.
• 25:46
  Getting his ass handed to him willingly and then delivering
• 25:51
  their asses back at them with a one-liner.
• 25:56
  Anakin loses his shit and it's hot.
• 25:59
  And Ahsoka is confused and trying to piece it all together
• 26:02
  and keep her life in one piece trying to keep up with those two
• 26:06
  Obi-Wan and Anakin. So, I love this episode.
• 26:09
  It has it all. This episode has everything
• 26:13
  despite bombs, hot Jedi, getting all kinds of emotional torment
• 26:21
  out, Elton, John glasses, everything, John glasses.
• 26:25
  Has Stefan felines with canine, yes.
• 26:29
  But if anyone didn't get the reference, that's the van from
• 26:32
  Saturday and we love him. Can't get better than that.
• 26:37
  Nope, our question for you, this week, is just quite simply.
• 26:47
  What is your favorite moment in this episode?
• 26:50
  It's pretty clear. What ours were?
• 26:53
  So let us know, yours, please. And join us back here.
• 26:57
  Next week, we are going to dive into the second episode of this
• 27:00
  three-part Arc. And we're going to talk about
• 27:03
  slaves of the Republic, which is takes place on xij area with the
• 27:08
  so cheery and queen and things. Get even more insane.
• 27:12
  If you can't believe it's even more.
• 27:14
  So yeah, George is back next week for that.
• 27:17
  So, last week, we talked about the basically, the finale of
• 27:20
  Obi-Wan and malls relationship and we both ran polls on our RAM
• 27:26
  and Twitter accounts and they had very similar results.
• 27:29
  We asked, what did you think of the finale in Rebels?
• 27:32
  Twin sons are Twitter poll had 78%.
• 27:35
  Loved it, 12%, liked it and 10% wanted more 0% disliked.
• 27:39
  It was you at 78% loved it? Yeah, that's crazy.
• 27:44
  That's a lot higher than what I got Instagram.
• 27:47
  I ran the exact same poll on Instagram and I got 57 percent
• 27:51
  loved it. And then it was a tie 21% for
• 27:54
  liked it and wanted more. Nobody disliked it though.
• 27:57
  Oh yeah. So most of all nobody disliked
• 28:01
  it. Although I have a few comments
• 28:02
  from Twitter. James, Matthew says on Twitter
• 28:05
  Obi-Wan's face as he closes malls, eyes broke me.
• 28:08
  Here's the man, whose hounded him had all his life taken away.
• 28:11
  Some of the most important people to him for no reason
• 28:14
  other than hate and Obi-Wan's still sad, that things had to
• 28:17
  end that way between them and that's what we said.
• 28:19
  Yeah, it's amazing. The courtesy, and respect and
• 28:23
  pity that he had for Mall. Yeah.
• 28:26
  Interesting, that you say pity because I got a message from
• 28:28
  Deana, one of our patrons. She was saying that she was
• 28:32
  thinking about this episode of ours and said, with the
• 28:35
  continuity, with ob1 and how he shows compassion for Mall.
• 28:40
  Do you think this would have still happened?
• 28:42
  If Anakin slept Vader, hadn't fought Kenobi.
• 28:46
  My argument is like, yes, because this was written first,
• 28:49
  but still, it's an interesting idea is that the the Catalyst
• 28:53
  that made it possible for everyone to even have compassion
• 28:56
  Mom and then we kind of made that argument in our episode.
• 28:58
  I think I'll be one is a compassionate person anyway and
• 29:01
  by this time in his timeline you know he softened quite a bit
• 29:05
  because he's more towards the A New Hope version of himself.
• 29:08
  That's very true. Yeah, I really liked that
• 29:09
  question. I thought it was an interesting
• 29:11
  thing to think about. Yeah.
• 29:12
  We had a lot of comments on Twitter from our friends at
• 29:14
  conversations. We also had some people saying
• 29:17
  that Rebels wasn't the time or the place to have the finale of
• 29:20
  these two and so I can understand that point as well.
• 29:22
  Yeah, I completely agree conversations.
• 29:24
  They said it was the perfect. A bookend.
• 29:26
  So yeah, yeah, everyone loves it.
• 29:29
  Yeah. I mean, even if they did,
• 29:31
  because I had a few people say the same thing that they're
• 29:32
  like, what the hell was Ezra even doing there?
• 29:34
  Someone was like, it actually azra takes away from Luke, which
• 29:38
  I thought was an interesting and I kind of agree with that
• 29:40
  perspective, but like they still love the Dual, you know, like
• 29:43
  the moment is still a really great moment.
• 29:46
  So it was it's definitely an interesting conversation piece.
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